tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5899907675904775235.post1146690144899096819..comments2024-03-11T12:43:36.294+05:30Comments on DefenceWire: Clashes in Mannar, LTTE Propaganda Machine Go on the OverdriveUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger55125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5899907675904775235.post-59248316168673686442008-01-26T10:23:00.000+05:302008-01-26T10:23:00.000+05:30On the argument of who's losing more men..the proo...On the argument of who's losing more men..the proof is found in the readiness of ordinary civillians to enlist.<BR/><BR/>When the going was rough and the SL defence forces wre losing large numbers, recruitment numbers fell, and desertions increased. That was based on the numbers of injured and dead reaching the village level sentiment.<BR/>Today the exact opposite is true. Based on the lesser numbers killed, there are higher numbers willing to enlist, and desertions have dramatically declined. Even earlier deserters have returned, of course due to some enforcement.<BR/><BR/>Could Tamilnut claim the same? The numbers of dead among the LTTE are too numerous even to count and often soldiers inform of having to burn the abandoned bodies on a regular basis. Most of these are said to be kid.TropicalStormhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18110816350260622487noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5899907675904775235.post-78903106648204121042008-01-24T21:14:00.000+05:302008-01-24T21:14:00.000+05:30DW,take it easy dude.If the IDF won the war why ev...DW,<BR/><BR/>take it easy dude.<BR/><BR/>If the IDF won the war why even the israli people are really mad with their political establishment.<BR/><BR/>For Israli's lebanan is a quagmire, just like vanni is for SLDF. "Operation Accountability" was a disaster just like Jayasikuru. The mighty israli airforce could destroy ammunition dumps of Hizbulla, who maintained steady Katusha fire on Israel. (you might want to check out how many rockets were fired each day of 2006 war). If Israli's were winning why did they beat hasty retreat? You might want to ask your IDF friend.verbatimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16545389311510851265noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5899907675904775235.post-45629410384484428352008-01-23T21:58:00.000+05:302008-01-23T21:58:00.000+05:30verbatim, You are good at jerking yourself off. IA...verbatim, You are good at jerking yourself off. IAF fought Hizbollah in high buildup areas and they DID destroy many of Hizbollah's assets. I know for a fact because I am good friends with an IDF Brigadier General. Incidentally, have you heard of Operation Accountability by IDF in south Lebanon in 1993. In 2006, within 33 days of fighting IAF killed Sajid Dewayer, the Special Forces leader of Hezbollah, bombed Hizbollah leader, Hasan Nasrallah's office and hideout and bombed to Rafiq Hariri Airport to ashes. How about that?Defencewirehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06358848115700373983noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5899907675904775235.post-57587550134321772402008-01-23T21:40:00.000+05:302008-01-23T21:40:00.000+05:30DW,you too dont seem to get my sarcasm about schoo...DW,<BR/><BR/>you too dont seem to get my sarcasm about school at the periphery of kill zones.<BR/><BR/>anyway deploying tiger snipers at the periphery would be good for a number of reasons.<BR/>1. army would be forced to bring their snipers to the front, who will then be exposed to jonnys/booby traps and indirect fire.<BR/>2. these fronts especially Mannar front (due to the terrain), is good for training the fresh tiger snipers. That is probaby what they are doing. (if they are doing)<BR/><BR/>btw, I do not know whether 12 soldiers have been killed by the tiger snipers. All I am saying is given 4 avenues of approach, a bunch of tiger snipers can easily achieve that.<BR/><BR/>Now if every camp/school/ammunition dump had been targetted within weeks of establishment, the SLAF must be much superior to Israli AF who struggled and failed to destroy Hizbulla ammunition dumps. And if the SLAF can get the sniper school within weeks of establishment, then how come the tiger tin cans are not yet located by the SLAF?<BR/><BR/>I am good at picking grains from the chaffs :)verbatimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16545389311510851265noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5899907675904775235.post-76211610817022264922008-01-23T21:21:00.000+05:302008-01-23T21:21:00.000+05:30upul,Yes upul, they are all a collection of rumour...upul,<BR/>Yes upul, they are all a collection of rumours. That's why days after the last article about Vethampanai fighting and our report that LTTE bodies were recovered that ICRC is preparing to handover 9 bodies to LTTE today. Check your favorite site, Tamilnet for the SUPREME TRUTH!Defencewirehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06358848115700373983noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5899907675904775235.post-7612043086072407412008-01-23T19:51:00.000+05:302008-01-23T19:51:00.000+05:30DW,You seem to be ignoring my question of whether ...DW,<BR/><BR/>You seem to be ignoring my question of whether you double source your claims. Whats there to hide in this ? Unless off course, these are collections of rumours and conjectures.Upulhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09848096525564433090noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5899907675904775235.post-74407106478528716502008-01-23T19:06:00.000+05:302008-01-23T19:06:00.000+05:30upul,I can't give you my sources. Go to hell! You ...upul,<BR/>I can't give you my sources. Go to hell! You however have a freedom of choice, to go elsewhere for what your hart tells you is the 'truth', but your mind may tell you otherwise. Currently, you are experiencing the opposite of that.<BR/><BR/>verbatim,<BR/>You are hilarious. Do yo know how valuable a sniper is? He's an elite assassin in the moder battlefield. Snipers only target officers, not soldiers. This is either an act of desperation, exposing snipers to kill soldiers, or a complete lie. Now knowing LTTE, i would say this is a lie because they do not waste resources like that, or even endager them. <BR/><BR/>Having a sniper school in a warzone, this is the best all evening. You know Mr. Verbatim, SLAF bombs all camps and mini camps, barely weeks into their establishment now. Any structure or gathering place, situated even remotely close to a theater of op. will be shelled or bombed. There are arti correction scouts in these advance parties, commando and SF spotters, recce teams, what not. What about army snipers? Did you really think an army just charges in and offer their chests to a sniper school? Sorry to say this but you must be out of your mind!Defencewirehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06358848115700373983noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5899907675904775235.post-5308614132970859422008-01-23T18:04:00.000+05:302008-01-23T18:04:00.000+05:30my brother sent me an sms saying that lots of SLAF...my brother sent me an sms saying that lots of SLAF air crafts (Kafirs, Migs) are flying everywhere at the moment...<BR/><BR/>don't know what's going one... btw, our house situated in Chilaw area...Sandun Dasanayakehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15874572559250696967noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5899907675904775235.post-57310477064751301152008-01-23T17:27:00.000+05:302008-01-23T17:27:00.000+05:30ICRC hands over 9 bodies to LTTE in OamanthaiLINK<B>ICRC hands over 9 bodies to LTTE in Oamanthai</B><BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://www.tamilnet.com/art.html?catid=13&artid=24385" REL="nofollow">LINK</A>LKDOODhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18426997279106115254noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5899907675904775235.post-32097062365392349942008-01-23T17:21:00.000+05:302008-01-23T17:21:00.000+05:30lkdood-What does the update related to?Can you pas...lkdood-<BR/>What does the update related to?<BR/>Can you past here if possible?pereinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02440639836678576676noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5899907675904775235.post-34869776884072064002008-01-23T17:10:00.000+05:302008-01-23T17:10:00.000+05:30just now for the first time Tamilnet has updated t...just now for the first time Tamilnet has updated todayLKDOODhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18426997279106115254noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5899907675904775235.post-47587982840656820142008-01-23T14:32:00.000+05:302008-01-23T14:32:00.000+05:30it sayshttp://www.asiantribune.com/Speculation .Us...it says<BR/><A HREF="http://www.asiantribune.com/?q=node/9260" REL="nofollow">http://www.asiantribune.com/</A><BR/><B>Speculation </B>.<BR/>Usually speculation becomes true. <BR/>Let's hope that's the case.pereinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02440639836678576676noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5899907675904775235.post-71163468890157927242008-01-23T14:26:00.000+05:302008-01-23T14:26:00.000+05:30Look asiant ribune web site.Look asiant ribune web site.Ariyarathnahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02520927802715633922noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5899907675904775235.post-83688604402294074302008-01-23T14:20:00.000+05:302008-01-23T14:20:00.000+05:30Ariyarathna-Where did you get the info mate?Ariyarathna-<BR/>Where did you get the info mate?pereinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02440639836678576676noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5899907675904775235.post-76977725876627072272008-01-23T14:19:00.000+05:302008-01-23T14:19:00.000+05:30I heard that few minuets ago Valupillai Pirapahara...I heard that few minuets ago Valupillai Pirapaharan has die by Air raid. It's true?Ariyarathnahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02520927802715633922noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5899907675904775235.post-10720404957866533612008-01-23T14:14:00.000+05:302008-01-23T14:14:00.000+05:30The vigil is on. Whole sri lanka will be jubilant ...The vigil is on. Whole sri lanka will be jubilant if the bloody praba is dead.<BR/><BR/>but they will celebrate inhouse as tigers will go mad.Moshe Dyanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08762527540378686097noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5899907675904775235.post-36373494138098826142008-01-23T14:00:00.000+05:302008-01-23T14:00:00.000+05:30Dear verbatim, Sun Tzu's disciple, Sorry if my pos...Dear verbatim, Sun Tzu's disciple, <BR/><BR/>Sorry if my postings were personal to you. I never thought to hurt you two or Mr.Boss. <BR/>But please continue your analysis and predictions. All of us enjoy your comments and love to reply too. <BR/><BR/>"I have good respect for your postings. I have greater respect for allowing freedom of speech on this blog."<BR/>I didn't block you from posting comments!<BR/><BR/>"Now it is the turn of tigers to mine the southern/western seas. Economic fallout from that will be big."<BR/><BR/>Yes. You can mine "southern/western seas", But not in large quantities as un-liberated areas. <BR/><BR/>Killing innocent civilians, Hitting economical targets, and now Start Mining. All these Terrorists tactics are not so new to world. That's why I pointed out that LTTE terrorists are doing everything they can in these last moments.<BR/><BR/>We just need to be more vigilant and calm till the SLA liberate Wanni. <BR/><BR/>P.S: TamilNet has no updates after there Hilarious Sniper Story. Maybe due to Friendly Fire by own sniper TEAMS? Haha LOL!IntelAttackhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04629931751513774520noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5899907675904775235.post-52979176366898692832008-01-23T13:30:00.000+05:302008-01-23T13:30:00.000+05:30Upul,Your link does not contain any tamilnet publi...Upul,<BR/><BR/>Your link does not contain any tamilnet published news; it has mainly what the ministry of defence guys said!!!<BR/><BR/>That is why i say, pro-LTTE media have zero credibility. Only the likes of you trust that crap.<BR/><BR/>what DW says can be verifiable.Moshe Dyanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08762527540378686097noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5899907675904775235.post-49022904636982089322008-01-23T13:20:00.000+05:302008-01-23T13:20:00.000+05:30Was Prabakaran at bombed location? The Air Forc...<B>Was Prabakaran at bombed location?</B><BR/> <BR/>The Air Force says there was strong speculation that LTTE leader Vellupillai Prabakaran was at the location in Killinochchi which came under an air raid this morning. Air Force Spokesperson Wing Commander Andi Wijesoriya said “we heard about this and are awaiting confirmation.”<BR/><BR/>source: www.dailymirror.lkSandun Dasanayakehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15874572559250696967noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5899907675904775235.post-59884207924544960702008-01-23T13:08:00.000+05:302008-01-23T13:08:00.000+05:30SLAF fighters raid LTTE nerve centre in Kilinochch...<B>SLAF fighters raid LTTE nerve centre in Kilinochchi</B><BR/> <BR/>Air Force fighter jets have raided a strategically important LTTE base this morning during low diving missions conducted East of the Iranamadu Tank at Kalamadukulam in Kilinochhci. The target identified as ‘X-Ray’ base was located in a thick jungle patch within the LTTE 'high military zone' and 'Intel' reports confirm it to be the hub of LTTE activities in Kilinochchi, the Defence Ministry said. <BR/><BR/>source: www.dailymirror.lkSandun Dasanayakehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15874572559250696967noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5899907675904775235.post-5940601093124288712008-01-23T13:01:00.000+05:302008-01-23T13:01:00.000+05:30DW,I have good respect for your postings. I have g...DW,<BR/><BR/>I have good respect for your postings. I have greater respect for allowing freedom of speech on this blog.<BR/><BR/>Please do not take disagreements personal. You said 12 deaths from snipers is not possible. I laid out a scenario for such a possibility. The comments about sniper schools at the periphery of kill zones was my sarcasm. The intelligent ones would have deduced that, of course not the ones that have occasional attacks of intellgence :)<BR/><BR/>I think the LTTE is sitting pretty. It is the govt soldiers who have venture into kill zones created by tiger defence, get shot by tigers hiding in bunkers and face indirect fire. Add tiger snipers to the mix, the situation becomes worse for govt soldiers. Of course this is just my opinion; so hold your barks.<BR/><BR/>The govt is fighting shy of engaging LTTE in a set piece conventional battle. Why? Is it because they think they cannot win and deploy guerilla methods. usually it is the weaker one that launches guerilla attacks. Is the decision of the govt to use guerilla attacks (DPU/LRRP/Group-Based attacks) it an acknowledgement that the tigers are superior militarily?<BR/><BR/>Why does the navy is mining the Mannar sea? Is it because they have given up the hope of dominating the seas in this area? <BR/><BR/>Now it is the turn of tigers to mine the southern/western seas. Economic fallout from that will be big.verbatimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16545389311510851265noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5899907675904775235.post-69615826818142557042008-01-23T12:21:00.000+05:302008-01-23T12:21:00.000+05:30""The 20:1 ratio is more impornant to LTTE than th...""The 20:1 ratio is more impornant to LTTE than the army""<BR/><BR/> I was not discussing this point. Since you raised this point, ratios are meaningless in todays wars--the last time they were useful was the 'Total Wars'of WW2. Now the one who blinks first 'wins'eg. VC 'won'Vietnam war even though US beat the crap out of them.Afghans'won', Croats 'won', Eritreans 'won',Timorese 'won', and more.<BR/><BR/> As for your other points, I digress; but we shall wait and watch alright:)<BR/><BR/>******<BR/> Intelattack,<BR/> I won't honour you by responding to your rabid attacks. Shoo!<BR/>***<BR/> One fellow Moshe Dyan called me a 'marsupial terrorist' etc just because I stated facts as seen by me. He got his Karma when other bloggers called him an LTTE-supporter and ganged up on him recently. Intelattacks fate will be same;)Sun Tzu's disciplehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03180079103790146377noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5899907675904775235.post-47227847053922483602008-01-23T11:11:00.000+05:302008-01-23T11:11:00.000+05:30Last comment goes out for (Panicked) Boss and his ...Last comment goes out for (Panicked) Boss and his Frightened supporters including Upul and Sun Tzu's disciple.IntelAttackhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04629931751513774520noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5899907675904775235.post-79014975406171211872008-01-23T11:02:00.000+05:302008-01-23T11:02:00.000+05:30Dear (Panicked) Boss,“True. My point is: The SLA i...Dear (Panicked) Boss,<BR/><BR/><I>“True. My point is: The SLA is gonna lose more soldiers than the LTTE, atleast at this stage of war.So the credibility of 20:1 kill ratio is highly suspect.” </I><BR/><BR/>Yes! According to your highly faithful pro media, LTTE Terrorists are killing SLA soldiers in minimal ratio of 50:1. The whole SLA, Air Force and Navy personnel will be either KIA or WIA within 3-4 months. <BR/><BR/>The last thing that we cannot understand is, why you are screaming this much if the LTTE is having the world’s greatest kill ratio. Don’t panic. Let Terrorists to do their work. Why LTTE killing innocent villagers in rural areas when they can win the war so easily! Please stop joking! <BR/><BR/><I> “Maybe. But MR is ultimately resposible to the public (and JVP/JHU) who elected him. They will bay for his blood if he does not live up to his bombastic predictions( Many bloggers here are already showing signs of impatience and dejection:).It may also confuse the soldiers on the ground. Thats why MR &co should have been more circumspect in their pronouncements.” </I><BR/><BR/>We can clearly see that you are the only impatient (patient) here! LOL! <BR/>BTW, Sri lankans are not as blood thirst as your terror chief (VP).<BR/><BR/><I> “I dont think so. The LTTE will just need to just hang on long enough till your soldiers become fatigued, your economy receding, you people fed up, your political allies frustrated and IC more pro-active. The predictions of MR&co will only serve to shorten this period of toleration.I guess if LTTE exists as a territorial entity by 2008 end it would have weathered the storm?” </I><BR/><BR/>The storm has not even stared yet. When the military go 100% offensive you will see what happen to VP and his mad supporters. We can see how hard you panic, how hard you are estimating, how hard you are gathering statistics and how hard you smuggle more than before. Is it just because LTTE terrorists are winning? Or is it because they are losing? Go home and do your homework. Prepare better than yesterday till SLA liberate Wanni from bloody terrorists. LTTE Terrorists will do everything possible (but possibilities are so little), to stop SLA advances. But you, me and everybody knows what’s gonna happen. Just keep your fingers crossed!IntelAttackhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04629931751513774520noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5899907675904775235.post-38065213290649212372008-01-23T10:57:00.000+05:302008-01-23T10:57:00.000+05:30Sun-Tzu,/*True. My point is: The SLA is gonna lose...Sun-Tzu,<BR/><BR/>/*<BR/>True. My point is: The SLA is gonna lose more soldiers than the LTTE, atleast at this stage of war.So the credibility of 20:1 kill ratio is highly suspect.<BR/>*/<BR/><BR/> The 20:1 ratio is more impornant to LTTE than the army. To make any impact, LTTE has to kill at least 20 soldiers for every 1 of theirs. Going by current trends, I dont think LTTE is anywhere near the magic number. The army on the other hand can take its time catching up on the kill ratio as there is enough lag there.<BR/><BR/>I would't worry about the morale of the troops either. Unlike previous regimes, this one gives special attention to this side of things.<BR/><BR/><BR/>/*<BR/>Looks even higher than Gen Fonsekas estimate:) Mind if you share the formula by which you deduced it?<BR/>*/<BR/><BR/>On average 10-15 a day and going up to 35-40 on a good day.<BR/><BR/>/*<BR/>The LTTE will just need to just hang on long enough till your soldiers become fatigued..<BR/>*/<BR/><BR/>Well their track record says otherwise. If I give you a few examples. They preempted Jayasikurui by attacking Paranthan and Kilinochi from the north. The last attempt of the 'final war' they attacked Sampoor when the amry was taking them on in Mavil Aru. They seem to follow a stratergy of pre-emption. This is why I think they will go on the offensive taking advantage of the surprise factor when everyone thinks they are weak and struggling to wade off the military offensives.Jambudipahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09894590544311665214noreply@blogger.com