tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5899907675904775235.post3266816130698820641..comments2024-03-11T12:43:36.294+05:30Comments on DefenceWire: Why the Special Forces so deadlyUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger66125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5899907675904775235.post-27131789972420592222008-05-09T16:00:00.000+05:302008-05-09T16:00:00.000+05:30u knw its reaally very very very very smart of STD...u knw its reaally very very very very smart of STD to use his already pathepatic nick name.....cos if he was found...........id hate to think wt wud happen to da poor guy..........<BR/>peace out<BR/>jaya sriSrilankanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02539790452946182803noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5899907675904775235.post-24507102327205251042008-05-09T15:57:00.000+05:302008-05-09T15:57:00.000+05:30its really g8 of u guys to be giving all dis info....its really g8 of u guys to be giving all dis info..bt guys.....d gud r nt the only ones who surf da net...............<BR/>]<BR/><BR/>jaya SriSrilankanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02539790452946182803noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5899907675904775235.post-47244303094349021462008-03-07T15:29:00.000+05:302008-03-07T15:29:00.000+05:30ranil, ya ya. you are right. your great logic is ...ranil,<BR/><BR/> ya ya. you are right. your great logic is indeed shining through. you have won the argument. I hereby present you the medal.Now go home and show it to mom.Sun Tzu's disciplehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03180079103790146377noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5899907675904775235.post-15734421686925269022008-03-07T15:15:00.000+05:302008-03-07T15:15:00.000+05:30"I do have a good info about yala,"Yep... all at D..."I do have a good info about yala,"<BR/><BR/>Yep... all at DW can see that from your rantings about the great things this ltte team has achieved in yala :)Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08186351038561364738noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5899907675904775235.post-25011772720376342132008-03-07T15:13:00.000+05:302008-03-07T15:13:00.000+05:30STDgood to have heard from an all-knowing supreme ...STD<BR/>good to have heard from an all-knowing supreme human being like yourself :)<BR/><BR/>Just like you know for sure that LRRP made the hit on this tamil MP without a grain of evidence :)<BR/><BR/>talk about weak logic :)Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08186351038561364738noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5899907675904775235.post-81925059485715154082008-03-07T14:51:00.000+05:302008-03-07T14:51:00.000+05:30ranil, I do have a good info about yala, and altho...ranil,<BR/><BR/> I do have a good info about yala, and although I find most of your arguments weak or ignorant of reality I will leave it at that. I do appreciate you however for putting forth points rather than irrelevant junk. adieu!Sun Tzu's disciplehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03180079103790146377noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5899907675904775235.post-30544475118805182902008-03-07T14:43:00.000+05:302008-03-07T14:43:00.000+05:30STDare you a Norwegian by any chance :) :) on yala...STD<BR/>are you a Norwegian by any chance :) :) <BR/><BR/>on yala.<BR/>I'm not gonna go through each single point of your post but most of your points don't really make that much of sense in yala area...<BR/>And let me tell you that i have trekked through yala jungles, not in fancy jeeps but on foot... I've trekked in Buttala, gone into the jungles in motorbikes etc etc so i know the terrain a bit :)<BR/><BR/>To start off... you exactly don't need goo morale to do what these guys have done... In SL itself we've had robbers, gangsters and Marijuana cultivators etc who have evaded cops, stayed in the jungles for months and even years etc etc...<BR/>Even a coward can hide in a jungle, eat worms or whatever and hit a bus with unarmed civilians... I don't think you need huge morale to that.. If you know survival situation like you say you do... people do whatever it takes to survive and that doesn't mean you do it with good morale... it's just survival.... a very basic animal instinct<BR/><BR/>And when you say ltte was cleared from the east... the fact is that SLDF cleared all major camps and the heavy presence ltte...I'm sure few hundreds of them or so would've mixed in with the civilian population... And ltte did have this area under them for a long time and the sldf operations also took sometime to cut through so they had enough time to do this..<BR/><BR/>Yala area jungles are settlements are spread apart..some villages don't even have proper roads... there's heavy cover in the area with some streams also running across... you do get boulder formations near water ways and at some spots...jungle and the undergrowth is quite thick...<BR/>The terrain is vast and remote enough for a small tiger team hide quite easily and it's a nightmare for a hunting unit to take em out especially with our lack of resources...<BR/>Remember that we don't have detailed gps maps and sadly most sldf folks use numeric data based gps units and not the ones with GUI's... It's not easy for a secondary unit to come into assist a first unit that might've made contact with the said tiger team...<BR/>And all the time...SLDF team will be walking into a ambush by the ltte squad cos as you very well know...it's so much easier for them to defend than our guys to attack...<BR/>we don't have the manpower or the technology to do a complete combing of such a vast area...<BR/><BR/>Try and get some info about the area... that way you will understand what i'm trying tell you :)Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08186351038561364738noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5899907675904775235.post-92050194419019151272008-03-07T14:28:00.000+05:302008-03-07T14:28:00.000+05:30ranil, have you read the reports of HRW released y...ranil,<BR/> have you read the reports of HRW released yesterday? It says MAJORITY of disappeared(1500+) in past 2 years is done by GoSL. That is living breathing humans with hopes and dreams, wives/fathers/kids/husbands .The report was prepared by local HRW reps+ Sri Lankan civil society groups .Not to mention SLMM/ UN/Amnesty/IIGEP/ UTJHR etc etc who had people ON the ground in Sri Lanka, even in areas of conflict , all filing similar reports. Are you telling me these people are all lying? All these orgs have a reputation of honesty and impartiality--as can be deduced by their scathing reports on ltte too. I am just echoing the voices of these people who actually went to these areas and even met with victims. You dont have to go to Germany to know Holocaust happened there. You dont have to go to Japan to prove Atom Bomb was dropped there, do you?Sun Tzu's disciplehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03180079103790146377noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5899907675904775235.post-28393455026744759662008-03-07T14:18:00.000+05:302008-03-07T14:18:00.000+05:30"But I also feel the GoSL is equally guilty of suc..."But I also feel the GoSL is equally guilty of such crimes and need punishment too. One day, may Prabhakaran and Mahinda/GR stand in chains in a glass cage in the Hague answering for their crimes."<BR/><BR/><BR/>what you "feel" without credible evidence is nothing mate...that's just with your warped logic and if you haven't been to SL to see how things are first hand and have to depend on other sources to get a clear picture...i'm sorry to tell you that you will never get ever get the right picture...<BR/><BR/>I don't support political parties but this president did try to keep the talk going with the ltte even when ltte were blatantly going against CFA... The man tolerated a lot before finally embarking on a military operation... <BR/>The present war situ was created by the ltte and not by the president... the president doesn't give orders to kill civilians etc like VP does... In war i'm sure you know civilian casualties do happen... that's the ugly reality of war...<BR/>But i think you're really ignorant and stupid to put the president and the ltte leader who has terrorized this country for decades in the same level...<BR/>Among many other things VP has marched thousands of children to their deaths man...what has MR done to resemble anything close to this even...Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08186351038561364738noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5899907675904775235.post-13170580460334400512008-03-07T13:48:00.000+05:302008-03-07T13:48:00.000+05:30ranil,I condemn LTTE killing civilians in the stro...ranil,<BR/>I condemn LTTE killing civilians in the strongest terms.They can never justify revenge killings. They deserved the censure they got from IC. But I also feel the GoSL is equally guilty of such crimes and need punishment too. One day, may Prabhakaran and Mahinda/GR stand in chains in a glass cage in the Hague answering for their crimes.Sun Tzu's disciplehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03180079103790146377noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5899907675904775235.post-84244793173904630982008-03-07T13:44:00.000+05:302008-03-07T13:44:00.000+05:30ranil, no I have not been to Yala. I am very famil...ranil,<BR/><BR/> no I have not been to Yala. I am very familiar with survival tactics and such.But point out the flaws in my argument will you? <BR/><BR/> I am a person of Mongoloid stock, in a successful SEA country w , but am working outside my country now. I have done quite a bit of research on your civil war starting from my Senior school days.I had some connection to the military in my younger days. I am afraid I cannot divulge more details than that ,hope you understand.Sun Tzu's disciplehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03180079103790146377noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5899907675904775235.post-22053199139562690552008-03-07T13:12:00.000+05:302008-03-07T13:12:00.000+05:30STDsorry but let me ask you another question if yo...STD<BR/>sorry but let me ask you another question if you don't mind... Have you ever been to the Yala area?Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08186351038561364738noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5899907675904775235.post-84320132679395660762008-03-06T16:06:00.000+05:302008-03-06T16:06:00.000+05:30and for the others who are(justifiably) shouting h...and for the others who are(justifiably) shouting hoarse about LTTE killings in Yala:<BR/><BR/>""1,500 Sri Lankans missing, government to blame: report<BR/>Stewart Bell, Canwest News Service<BR/>Published: Thursday, March 06, 2008""<BR/> also the IIGEP has pulled out.<BR/><BR/> Is it correct to condone killing your enemy but condemn when they return the brutality?Sun Tzu's disciplehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03180079103790146377noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5899907675904775235.post-63836670199889634152008-03-06T14:30:00.000+05:302008-03-06T14:30:00.000+05:30[quote]STD and how about sharing some info as to h...[quote]STD and how about sharing some info as to how you figured out this "SF" ltte unit in yala have in your own words<BR/><BR/>"excellent evasion skills, anti-tracking skills, camouflage, tolerance of extreme privation for extended periods, consumption of non-traditional 'foods', peak physical health, good morale etc.[unquote]"<BR/><BR/> Now that you actually asked something I will give how I felt they have those skills:<BR/>1. Excellent Evasion Skills: <BR/> a.The ltte were cleared from east by july 2007.At least since then this team in Yala camped in this Sinhala majority area without being noticed--in an area new to them with a hostile population.<BR/> b.When they blew their cover in oct15 2007 the GoSL was truly surprised, so complete was their cover.<BR/> c.Since then they have attacked civilians and military multiple times, and are not detected before or after each attack by the thousands of army, home guard and police pumped into the area. Mind you this is an overwhelming Singala area.<BR/><BR/> 2.Anti-tracking skills:<BR/> Since coming to notice in oct15, thousands of military(one report said 8000army, not counting homeguard/police/armed civilians)are on their trail using latest equipment/tracker dogs etc .But except 2-3 incidents these fellows never tracked down or made contact--so they must have good anti-tracking skills.<BR/><BR/>3.Camouflage: without camouflage skills nobody can perfrom no.1 &2 in a hostile area.<BR/>4.tolerance of extreme privation for extended periods:<BR/> To be on the run in a hostile area for 5months continuosly with thousands of soldiers searching to kill you would require tolerance to extreme privation--like not bathing for days, eating stale or raw food, not able to defecate or urinate except in streams for fear of detection ,keeping immobile in rain or shine,etc<BR/><BR/>5.consumption of non-traditional 'foods' : will be required for a team on the run in a hostile area needing to keep out of sight for months.Prob includes animals of every description, insects, wild veg etc<BR/><BR/>6.peak physical health:<BR/> Above can be done only by a person in excellent health.<BR/><BR/>7.good morale : Required for a person under tremendous pressure of being killed or captured for months on end.<BR/><BR/> These are my opinions. You can contest it .But it is no reason for abusing.Thank you.Sun Tzu's disciplehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03180079103790146377noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5899907675904775235.post-1969278212674519012008-03-06T14:21:00.000+05:302008-03-06T14:21:00.000+05:30Thanks DW for the info. on machine guns.According ...Thanks DW for the info. on machine guns.<BR/>According to Ranil, T-56, AK-47, M-16 are referred to as 'Assault Rifles'...<BR/>But term wise, can we categorise the above as GPMGs?<BR/>If not, please be kind enough to give some examples...<BR/>Thanks in advance!Puffyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08281978817662978964noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5899907675904775235.post-71321888216506036512008-03-06T10:56:00.000+05:302008-03-06T10:56:00.000+05:30Hey guys gotta be careful though...We shouldn't ge...Hey guys gotta be careful though...We shouldn't get complacent now! The LTTE "hidden-propaganda unit" might be spreading false rumors about non-existent internal conflicts within the LTTE....<BR/>So just watch out, everyone for false <BR/>"propaganda" and be wary of all articles posted on the net!<BR/><BR/>TCMahendrahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06818353903490098244noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5899907675904775235.post-44350470072289035162008-03-06T10:20:00.000+05:302008-03-06T10:20:00.000+05:30"I can't reply to every wannabe kid here and make ..."I can't reply to every wannabe kid here and make DW into another pissing-contest like happened to DN:))"<BR/><BR/>looks like somebody had got it tight from guys at DN eh :)<BR/><BR/>but gotta say STD...good stuff on the other thread about SF ballistic helmets etc :)Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08186351038561364738noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5899907675904775235.post-90113872304348274472008-03-06T09:54:00.000+05:302008-03-06T09:54:00.000+05:30STD and how about sharing some info as to how you ...STD and how about sharing some info as to how you figured out this "SF" ltte unit in yala have in your own words<BR/><BR/>"excellent evasion skills, anti-tracking skills, camouflage, tolerance of extreme privation for extended periods, consumption of non-traditional 'foods', peak physical health, good morale etc."Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08186351038561364738noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5899907675904775235.post-86516435181714867302008-03-06T09:52:00.000+05:302008-03-06T09:52:00.000+05:30STDthe lunatic is the one who think the ltte unit ...STD<BR/>the lunatic is the one who think the ltte unit in yala killing civilians can be called "special forces" :)Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08186351038561364738noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5899907675904775235.post-89136555708140831372008-03-06T09:43:00.000+05:302008-03-06T09:43:00.000+05:30Here we go again, another ranting lunatic without ...Here we go again,<BR/> another ranting lunatic without a mission.Sun Tzu's disciplehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03180079103790146377noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5899907675904775235.post-60245814886378815412008-03-06T09:15:00.000+05:302008-03-06T09:15:00.000+05:30STDwell i don't give a rat's ass of what you think...STD<BR/>well i don't give a rat's ass of what you think the type of person i am.<BR/>You're just another blogger hiding behind a fake name in www :)<BR/>And yes according you not even a sri lankan who likes to see ltte "accomplishments" being spread out to the world...<BR/>hence the reason for asking DW to talk about the so called ltte SF..<BR/>Remember this thread is all about our SF and not your terrorist scummy ltte "forces"<BR/>And FYI DW himself have said even our regulars is crapping all over your ltte "sf" and you like to gloss over what that ltte unit in Yala area has done...<BR/>Get a life moron... those Ltte SF is only good at killing farmers in numbers :) and you think they are such a good SF team...of course you support the ltte man and having lived with the ltte all my life i hate bloody ltte supporters...<BR/><BR/>On the name calling thing... when someone has earned the reason to be called with something, it's only natural that people do that :)<BR/>Ie...ltte being called terrorists...some terror supporters call them freedom fighters while we call them terrorists..<BR/>the same logic applies to you man.. grow up a bit :)<BR/><BR/>And what facts have you written in here that i need to fight with facts? you have written some crap about an ltte unit operating in yala jungles killing civilians mainly and taking out a few soldiers... what's so big about that man..?<BR/>have you even been to those areas to even talk about the terrain they operate in to make a good judgement about their skills?<BR/><BR/>And for the record..if any of the blog authors decide to take my posts out...so be it :)<BR/>I aint scared and i'm loosing nothing :) I'm here and unlike you i actually make a difference... Not only sitting in front of computer and passing on stupid comments without knowing facts like you...Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08186351038561364738noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5899907675904775235.post-8768101083444658352008-03-06T05:56:00.000+05:302008-03-06T05:56:00.000+05:30ranil, as usual you have avoided replying my quer...ranil,<BR/><BR/> as usual you have avoided replying my queries nor given specific incidents/proof of my tiger 'support'and gone for innuendos and name calling.<BR/><BR/> Just shows the type of person you are? The ONLY specific incident you mentioned of me supporting tigers is this:<BR/><BR/>""score up the tigers... even calling these terrorists as special forces :)""<BR/><BR/> Now let me quote Defencewire in same thread, next to your quote above:<BR/>""We would love to do an article on LTTE SF unit""<BR/> THAT makes DW a tiger-supporter by your skewed logic man! and I'm sure DW team can hand you something to remember by if you try to act funny, and without needing even a pint or two;))<BR/> grow up. I can't reply to every wannabe kid here and make DW into another pissing-contest like happened to DN:))Sun Tzu's disciplehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03180079103790146377noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5899907675904775235.post-26947340765603343262008-03-05T21:37:00.000+05:302008-03-05T21:37:00.000+05:30HMGs have tripods to hold the gun upright and to s...HMGs have tripods to hold the gun upright and to steady the gun during recoil. HMGs require two men, one to carry the barrel another to carry tripod and munitions. In Mannar, Vavuniya and Weli Oya, mini camps established inside LTTE areas have HMGs stationed for firepower in case of LTTE attempts to overrun them. We generally use for mobile attacks the GMPM (General Purpose Machine Gun) instead with 7.62 caliber.Defencewirehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06358848115700373983noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5899907675904775235.post-25981643054096607902008-03-05T21:31:00.000+05:302008-03-05T21:31:00.000+05:30We would love to do an article on LTTE SF unit. On...We would love to do an article on LTTE SF unit. Only thing is a lack of credible info. The other issue is, SLA normal infantry is killing them in Weli Oya as we speak. Earlier, they sent Charles Anthony and Imran Pandian to Mannar and Vavuniya. Now they have sent Ratha Regiment and members of the two other units to Weli Oya as well. In the fighting so far, regular infantry has killed over 200 of them last month. this makes us wonder how really special they are. Now this is our opinion and maybe a moot point. The only unit that has dealt a severe blow to the Security Forces (in this case SLAF) were the Black Tigers that attacked A'pura.Defencewirehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06358848115700373983noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5899907675904775235.post-36686263949596865542008-03-05T17:27:00.000+05:302008-03-05T17:27:00.000+05:30Thanks Ranil! :-)Thanks Ranil! :-)Puffyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08281978817662978964noreply@blogger.com