tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5899907675904775235.post3434938178534033918..comments2024-03-11T12:43:36.294+05:30Comments on DefenceWire: 57 advancing on Mallavi, ThunukkaiUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger29125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5899907675904775235.post-42227931262006577782008-05-30T23:11:00.000+05:302008-05-30T23:11:00.000+05:30gringo,Many of Karuna's battled-hardned men are al...gringo,<BR/><BR/><I>Many of Karuna's battled-hardned men are already with the SLDF in the North..</I><BR/><BR/>From where do you get this information? Do you mean to say that they are members of SLA now? I thought that all TMVP cadre are in the Eastern Province hunting for infiltrated and left-over LTTE members. Can you please elaborate what you said above?Sam Pererahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07809036198381030982noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5899907675904775235.post-90557479900531643132008-05-30T22:48:00.000+05:302008-05-30T22:48:00.000+05:30kaatikuddupaanMany of Karuna's battled-hardned men...kaatikuddupaan<BR/><BR/>Many of Karuna's battled-hardned men are already with the SLDF in the North... to settle 'personal' scores with the fat pig. They are more determined than ever!<BR/><BR/>What a boomaranged 'Tamil issue'!Gringohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15328253364998092247noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5899907675904775235.post-47264232142103623522008-05-30T10:38:00.000+05:302008-05-30T10:38:00.000+05:30Perhaps a way to take on the LTTE is to not persec...Perhaps a way to take on the LTTE is to not persecute fleeing cadres and to perhaps use them to take on LTTE. <BR/><BR/>many LTTE cadres now in medics recalled in horror how in the Eastern province they were scared of who is the enemy since the Karuna group was hitting them hard along with the army.<BR/><BR/>It's a different feeling for a Tamil to get fired upon by another tamil, which can make him doubt the cause and make the sagging morale of LTTE fall even further.kaatikuddupaanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17116321087534403509noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5899907675904775235.post-42755390337947178622008-05-30T07:27:00.000+05:302008-05-30T07:27:00.000+05:30DefenceWire,Do we have any more details of the 40-...DefenceWire,<BR/><BR/>Do we have any more details of the 40-ft deep bunker? We need to study how it was constructed, i.e. concrete, steel, shape, sizes of structural elements, access hatches, stairs, ladders etc. Perhaps, you should run it bu KDU structural engineering staff to determine the maximum forces it can stand. Also we need to figur out how to get a thermobaric work with this type of bunkers. We should improve our odds in getting Velu out by studying this bunker.Sam Pererahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07809036198381030982noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5899907675904775235.post-79478665914052340402008-05-29T19:05:00.000+05:302008-05-29T19:05:00.000+05:30very interesting discussion here with four five pe...very interesting discussion here with four five people looking at it in different pov.<BR/><BR/>I tend to agree with long rangers more realistic sounding analysis and Moshe's technicalities.LR yu are an optimist, that's what we need in these torrid times.<BR/><BR/>Even with the unrealistic sounding quick advance towards Mallavi and Thunukkai, the strategy seems, as i said earlier, to cut off supply lines to Vidduthalthivu and the adjoining coastal areas, which also means the coastal areas are also cut off from Killi and supplies smuggled in cannot be taken to Killinochi.Kithulhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07743164235316664814noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5899907675904775235.post-47915868669948002422008-05-29T16:51:00.000+05:302008-05-29T16:51:00.000+05:30With regards to the current strategy, you all are ...With regards to the current strategy, you all are missing one important point. The strategic gain of the Armed forces. It doesn't matter if the Tamil Tigers are holding its elites in reserve, but whether it is reserves or not one thing a new recruit and an elite require are a constant line of ammunition, supplies and logistics. Sans this they can't fight no matter how well trained they are.<BR/><BR/>As I am sure you all are aware how the current strategy is concentrating on securing coastal areas as the progress is made. The success of such a campaign was seen in the Eastern province. before THOPPIGALA/TRICONAMADU/KANDUKUDICHCHIARU campaign were begun the emphasis was to secure the coastal areas and clip the Tamil Tigers' sea wing seriously affecting its logistical capabilities. Using the Beirut trail it takes days or weeks for logistics to arrive, but the same logistics takes only a matter of hours via sea. How successful the sea route was shown when surrendered Tamil Tiger cadres revealed how sparsely they've been using this 'Beirut Trail'. In the East the same attrition campaign continued with the forces concentrating on the 4-6 sector which comprised of its KATHIRAVELI sea tiger base. There were many other Sea tiger bases and homicide boat launch pads surrounding SUDAIKUDA area in SAMPUR. As I am sure you all are aware these areas were taken under GOSL control before troops began concentrating bases located inland.<BR/><BR/>I hope this clears things up with regards to the current strategy. It not only dents the Tamil Tigers' much needed logistics, but it also ensures it loses its most vital wing - the Sea Tigers.Long - Rangerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04253650655846996279noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5899907675904775235.post-72216277844638431272008-05-29T09:35:00.000+05:302008-05-29T09:35:00.000+05:30a lot of important and hardcore LTTE'rs have died ...a lot of important and hardcore LTTE'rs have died but not in the numbers neccessary to cause a drop in organistations capability. for example the LTTE is also training up a special boat squadron ( with uniform of longitudinal blue stripes )<BR/><BR/>Somehow we need to hit more of their bases inside Vanni. A good way is to interrogate or coerce civillians coming out of Vanni to give info about various LTTE bases and pinpoint them on maps.<BR/><BR/>A point to note is that most of the high ranking LTTE do not live in the forests as most believe.<BR/><BR/>They are in housing compounds mainly in suburban areas of Killinocchi, Mullativu, Visuvamadu Puthukudiruppu e.t.c So a lot of civilians will know where these bases are and who is inside them.<BR/><BR/>The forests are mainly used as training camps and production bases for bombs, and sea tiger boats.<BR/><BR/>Hell even destroying the LTTE kitchens and food supply houses will make them starve !kaatikuddupaanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17116321087534403509noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5899907675904775235.post-25891197672017150592008-05-29T04:54:00.000+05:302008-05-29T04:54:00.000+05:30i agree with kaati and bailey that we MUST engage ...i agree with kaati and bailey that we MUST engage the LTTE's "elites". in fact i have been harping on this ever since. to do this we have to step up the op.s in the welioya-mulaitivu front (the most important front for the LTTE) forcing them to engage their best.<BR/><BR/>mulaitivu is the most secret area of the LTTE that houses much of its permanant infrastructure. as a result LTTE will do whatever it takes to defend it. this is where we should lay our nets for the maximum harvest.<BR/><BR/>however, killing "ancillary" cadres is also important.<BR/><BR/>may be for obvious reasons, we are most active in the least important front for the LTTE (comparatively) - which is the mannar front.Moshe Dyanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08762527540378686097noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5899907675904775235.post-88060101030274839272008-05-29T04:52:00.000+05:302008-05-29T04:52:00.000+05:30e.t. and london,I agree with you on the need to de...e.t. and london,<BR/><BR/>I agree with you on the need to destroy the elite terrorist of LTTE. We need to go after them or drag them to the battle field somehow. My understanding was that our Special Forces, Commandos, and Air Force is already doing this work, may be not to the levels we we would really like to have.Sam Pererahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07809036198381030982noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5899907675904775235.post-47556523083694423362008-05-29T04:13:00.000+05:302008-05-29T04:13:00.000+05:30Sea tigers destroy SLN camp near Ma'ndaitheevu isl...Sea tigers destroy SLN camp near Ma'ndaitheevu island, atleast 13 SLN killed and weapons seizedthiruhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03704315468512665905noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5899907675904775235.post-24242036710751242222008-05-29T03:20:00.000+05:302008-05-29T03:20:00.000+05:30I've actually mentioned LTTE troop quality in that...I've actually mentioned LTTE troop quality in that regard myself on my own blog. It is so rare to hear of a decorated LTTE unit being involved in this attrition campaign that I can only conclude that the vast majority of LTTE casualties are poorly trained conscripts. This seems to be the general conclusion wherever I look. <BR/><BR/>Given the length of time this strategy has been given, I fear that many of the conscripts killed in the daily skirmishes were drafted to counter the the attrition that killed them, leaving the LTTE no worse off than it was before. The SLA on the other hand has been losing smaller numbers of higher quality soldiers. When combined with the repeated failed assaults on the Jaffna Front, it is difficult to claim that the SLA is gaining an advantage from a kill ratio perspective.E.T. Baileyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14369204396507186919noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5899907675904775235.post-37228856267915017362008-05-29T02:36:00.000+05:302008-05-29T02:36:00.000+05:30defenceanalyst & kaatikuduppaan, Instead of waitin...defenceanalyst & kaatikuduppaan, <BR/><BR/>Instead of waiting for the inevitable engagement from the elites, can we not take the fight to them? Stage an actual or mock attack with air mobile troops in a deep ltte area, threaten them with yet another flank being opened up, to force the elites to engage. Yes, it sounds like a tall order but it's at least an option.londonistanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03518266451991060309noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5899907675904775235.post-21709330576316208872008-05-29T01:41:00.000+05:302008-05-29T01:41:00.000+05:30longranger,north east and north west of palampiddi...longranger,<BR/>north east and north west of palampiddi constitutes the two flanks spreading northwards towards Mallavi and Tunukkai. <BR/><BR/>The 61 is almost ready. Parts of the East are already being taken over by Air Force, including Trincomalee. Some STF units will also be moved in. Recuitment to the Army is also on track. Army units will gradually move northwards from other parts of the island.<BR/><BR/>e.t. bailey,<BR/>The width in the gap is not a fixed constant. LTTE seems to withdraw when they find it hard to confront. This re-enforces our concern, as expressed by DW about the quality of LTTE's fighting units being killed.<BR/><BR/>Kaatikuduppaan,<BR/>This is the issue and you have highlighted our concerns pretty aptly. The SLA has deployed some SF and Commando units, but the Commander's Reserve is still not fully unleashed. Our estimate is that within the next 6-8 months some huge confrontation will take place. This will be preceded by defence in depth to wear down troops as they get into Mullaithivu.defenceAnalysthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04489041428078443197noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5899907675904775235.post-81487818566092150132008-05-29T01:22:00.000+05:302008-05-29T01:22:00.000+05:30I believe LTTE is trying to funnel in the SLA thro...I believe LTTE is trying to funnel in the SLA through the mannar area instead while heavily defending Mullaithivu.<BR/><BR/>Prabhakaran is waiting for right time to launch a huge Unceasing waves type assault on SLA. When he will do it nobody knows. <BR/><BR/>Most of the hardcore units like Radha, Charles Antony, Imbran Pandian are not taking part in battles right now. They are relaxing in camps in Mullativu districts.<BR/><BR/>Somehow SLA needs to get LTTE to attack now and finish off their best.<BR/><BR/>The cadres they are killing now seem to be junior level conscripts who are left to die while the experienced guys are withdrawn to fight another day.kaatikuddupaanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17116321087534403509noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5899907675904775235.post-38173729629888638142008-05-29T00:36:00.000+05:302008-05-29T00:36:00.000+05:30Regarding the 300 meter advance the other day:I as...Regarding the 300 meter advance the other day:<BR/><BR/>I assume that this is 300 meters deept, but how wide a gap has been made? <BR/><BR/>Seven LTTE fighters were reported killed. Were there any SLA losses? <BR/><BR/>For the quantity and quality of the captured earthworks, seven soldiers could not possibly make up even a significant fraction of the LTTE's garrison. Is the SLA advance so slow that the LTTE was able to pack up and leave while the attack was ongoing, have these positions been largely abandoned for some time now, or does it seem that they knew well in advance when an attack would come?E.T. Baileyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14369204396507186919noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5899907675904775235.post-61757216215794123252008-05-29T00:18:00.000+05:302008-05-29T00:18:00.000+05:30I am afraid this brief is incorrect. 57 are never ...I am afraid this brief is incorrect. 57 are never going to venture that far before 61 is deployed. Currently 571 and 572 are active North west of PALAMPIDDI while 573 are active North East of PALAMPIDDI. Hope this helps :-)Long - Rangerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04253650655846996279noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5899907675904775235.post-76130866107636621192008-05-28T23:44:00.000+05:302008-05-28T23:44:00.000+05:30This comment has been removed by the author.hemanthahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08075005485723598181noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5899907675904775235.post-53512871121819294782008-05-28T22:50:00.000+05:302008-05-28T22:50:00.000+05:30Two LTTE field commanders who have done this befor...Two LTTE field commanders who have done this before are no longer with the organization. One disbanded (Karuna). The other died recently (Balraj). Swarnam, Jeyam, Bhanu etc are not of that caliber.Defencewirehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06358848115700373983noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5899907675904775235.post-42507999237536352042008-05-28T22:47:00.000+05:302008-05-28T22:47:00.000+05:30LTTE is trying to flank troops every single day. S...LTTE is trying to flank troops every single day. SLA is trying to flank LTTE also. <BR/><BR/>In order to stall the advance, LTTE must flank and cut across an advancing line, surrounding troops who are ahead, instigate panic and a breakdown in command and control, disrupt logistics and pick on troops scattered across the region. This is what they did when troops advanced from Kilinochchi to Mankulam. The Difference is, SLA is no longer advancing along the A9. Flanking and curring off troops would mean a powerful and sustained operation deep into SLA advance (cutting through the various avenues of approaches and to a considerable extent into the mobility corridor created). They must capture several GTIs (Ground Tactical Importance) in one sweeping attack, then dominate the surroundings, thus weakening the troops. Currently, we believe the LTTE maybe planning such an offensive. This is their only chance. Whether they still have that capacity and how such an attack will be faced by the SLA this time is an unknown at this point.Defencewirehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06358848115700373983noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5899907675904775235.post-31774353313913909362008-05-28T22:22:00.000+05:302008-05-28T22:22:00.000+05:30This comment has been removed by the author.hemanthahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08075005485723598181noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5899907675904775235.post-89512962605066540652008-05-28T22:21:00.000+05:302008-05-28T22:21:00.000+05:30you mean exposing a flank is a deliberate ploy to ...you mean exposing a flank is a deliberate ploy to tempt the enemy to attackKithulhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07743164235316664814noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5899907675904775235.post-45339651840163698522008-05-28T21:42:00.000+05:302008-05-28T21:42:00.000+05:30shan,lankanews, sam perera,Exposing ones flanks is...shan,lankanews, sam perera,<BR/><BR/>Exposing ones flanks is inevitable when you move further and further into enemy territory. Question is, what, when and how the enemy takes advantage. No objective such as Veduthalthivu has yet been given. Its all in the Commander's head.<BR/><BR/>The 59 has made some progress in Janakapura north and Kiriibbanwewa. If this continues, the entire heel of Mulaithivu District will be under SLA control. However, once in Kilinochchi, the concentration of the LTTE will be denser. But the strategy seems definitely to get the Tigers to engage troops, instead of capturing land. To what extent the Tigers have committed their frontline troops and to what extent they are being annihilated is the million dollar question.Defencewirehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06358848115700373983noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5899907675904775235.post-63013168142440143572008-05-28T21:24:00.000+05:302008-05-28T21:24:00.000+05:30Defencewire,Is Vidduthalthivu taken? Mallavi? aren...Defencewire,<BR/><BR/>Is Vidduthalthivu taken? Mallavi? aren't we over exposing ourselves to a rear end attack? What is happening in the Welioya front, have we advanced equally?Sam Pererahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07809036198381030982noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5899907675904775235.post-43479444218680950982008-05-28T21:20:00.000+05:302008-05-28T21:20:00.000+05:30shanthanksshan<BR/><BR/>thanksLKDOODhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18426997279106115254noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5899907675904775235.post-44333797106045384602008-05-28T21:16:00.000+05:302008-05-28T21:16:00.000+05:30Defencewire,Is weditalativ the next target?Defencewire,<BR/><BR/>Is weditalativ the next target?lankanewshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00918966804546557868noreply@blogger.com