tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5899907675904775235.post4624809150948014645..comments2024-03-11T12:43:36.294+05:30Comments on DefenceWire: Casualties in LTTE artillery fireUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger37125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5899907675904775235.post-38004124312093863122008-04-24T20:36:00.000+05:302008-04-24T20:36:00.000+05:30Peter said..." At the start of the year, the mi...Peter said...<BR/><BR/>" At the start of the year, the military said there were only 3,000 Tiger rebels left.<BR/><BR/> Latest official defence ministry figures, which include Wednesday's toll, show that 3,073 Tigers have been killed by security forces this year."<BR/><BR/>I agree that Gov. numbers are not accurate about the amount of remaining rebels. However, they do enroll new rebels and also, force people to do their bidding.Yohan Liyanagehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04974425422085607219noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5899907675904775235.post-80473187663173969282008-04-24T15:59:00.000+05:302008-04-24T15:59:00.000+05:30"All our brave brothers who have laid their lives,..."All our brave brothers who have laid their lives, fighting the LTTE, have died with the positive thought "Mission Accomplished" in their minds!<BR/><BR/>i.e. They knew very well that all their services, up to the very end, resulted in denying Eelam to the LTTE!"<BR/>IF OUR OPERATION COMMANDERS USED DIFFERENT STRATEGY WITHOUT PUBLISHING WHAT THEY ARE GOING TO DO AND BLAH BLAH,MANY LIVES SAVED.sanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17654267738224543252noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5899907675904775235.post-46852794806458133712008-04-24T15:35:00.000+05:302008-04-24T15:35:00.000+05:30We lost this battle, no point denying it!And no po...We lost this battle, no point denying it!<BR/>And no point crying over spilt milk...<BR/>This is war, you win some, you lose some!<BR/><BR/>But I have one point to make;<BR/><BR/>All our brave brothers who have laid their lives, fighting the LTTE, have died with the positive thought "Mission Accomplished" in their minds!<BR/><BR/>i.e. They knew very well that all their services, up to the very end, resulted in denying Eelam to the LTTE!<BR/><BR/><BR/>But all the LTTE terrorists who have died fighting the SLA, have died with the negative thought "Mission Failed" in their minds!<BR/><BR/>i.e. They knew very well that all their forced services, up to the very end, did not result in Eelam for the LTTE!Puffyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08281978817662978964noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5899907675904775235.post-29384648029864159722008-04-24T11:31:00.000+05:302008-04-24T11:31:00.000+05:30There are multiple failures here.1. The military ...There are multiple failures here.<BR/><BR/>1. The military thought prolonged attrition will weaken their capacity to fight. The problem is they rarely engage the forces in close quarters. Its always booby traps and stand off weapons they depend on. Looking at the campaign so far, the casualties are from mines, artillery and mortar. Attrition does not weaken their main capability which are mines and arti.<BR/><BR/>2. There are clearly intelligence failures. The forces under estimated their artillery thinking perhaps they have run out of supplies. The fact is they MANUFACTURE atri shells according to some websites. So many LTTEs surrender, yet how-come we don't know their MO with these artillery pieces? <BR/><BR/>3. The SLAF have really not thought of their priorities when procuring weapons. Their top priority should be the destruction of their standoff weapons. They dont have any conventional capability without these guns. The rain of artillery fell for hours, yet no aircraft to detect and destroy these guns. In my opinion, the purchase of Mig29 was totally unnecessary. What we need is airbourne artillery detection systems that can provide realtime feedback while the advance is in progress. Have we replaced the HISAR we lost at AAB? Shouldn;t we find a suitable replacement for this BEFORE the Mig29?Jambudipahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09894590544311665214noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5899907675904775235.post-87983972832043307522008-04-24T11:00:00.000+05:302008-04-24T11:00:00.000+05:30deborak,Just dont believe what www.lankaenews.com ...deborak,<BR/><BR/>Just dont believe what <B>www.lankaenews.com</B> says as they are doing sub contract of TamilNet Propaganda. Bloody UNP(United Napunsaka Party) which has bunch of drop kicks led by Ponsi R.W. who should be killed before VP.MasterOfAllhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13774007664758689868noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5899907675904775235.post-14984919939722139382008-04-24T09:24:00.000+05:302008-04-24T09:24:00.000+05:30Please go through the www.tamilnet.com and you'll ...Please go through the www.tamilnet.com and you'll have the correct picture. Folks, it true that our army is a brave army, but don't you think we ahve to change the military strategies according to the geographic area. Please remember this is the third time we lost Muhammalai battle, and probably will not be the last. Also I hear that from LankaNews.com we have retreated from the Nagarkovil FDL.deborakhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17576575830577967587noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5899907675904775235.post-84485369729681216262008-04-24T08:11:00.000+05:302008-04-24T08:11:00.000+05:30defence.lk:...Defence sources report that the LTTE...defence.lk:<BR/><BR/>...Defence sources report that the LTTE offensive was overall led by Theepan and Muhudan, two senior LTTE cadres , whilst fighting formations at Muhamalai and Kilaly were reported respectively led by 'Jerry', Kumunan and Kutti.LKDOODhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18426997279106115254noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5899907675904775235.post-57987376522688820052008-04-24T07:05:00.000+05:302008-04-24T07:05:00.000+05:30So since we did not anticipate a heavy arti barrag...So since we did not anticipate a heavy arti barrage, the SLA probably went ahead with the operation without letting the SLAF know.<BR/><BR/>SLAF was probably not informed to reduce a possible leak of sensitive information, but still the manner in which our guys are sacrificed, when no major objectives are achieved, is unforgivable.<BR/><BR/>If there are problems with information leaks, it is high time that all three forces do a series of counter espionage operations before gallivanting on major operations.Roverhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17767233435017760334noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5899907675904775235.post-47477173902575553412008-04-24T06:51:00.000+05:302008-04-24T06:51:00.000+05:30I said this yesterday."With the advent of guided m...I said this yesterday.<BR/><BR/>"With the advent of guided missiles and advanced helicopters, the tanks will have a poor chance of survival in large scale conventional warfare between nations. The Iraqi war, were we witnessed the almost complete annihilation of the Iraqi tanks is a good example for this. However, since US has the air superiority, they will keep using tanks for a while."<BR/><BR/>And today, we have this. We could not even defend our guys despite having air superiority, what a disgrace. What is the point of buying equipment that is worth millions of dollars if SLAF does not use it when needed? I think it is time to think about having a dedicated air wing for the army.<BR/><BR/>I know in a war, loosing a couple of tanks and life is not such a big deal. But today, it was a damned waste.<BR/><BR/>For me, more than anything, this debacle looks like an intelligence failure. Def.Wire said that the army was surprised by the volume of artillery fire that came our way; and this for me, is an indication that poor intelligence.Roverhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17767233435017760334noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5899907675904775235.post-66906315277145544112008-04-24T06:38:00.000+05:302008-04-24T06:38:00.000+05:30The SLA website is a disgrace (so are the other go...The SLA website is a disgrace (so are the other gov. websites) to our nation, almost every sentence they write has got grammatical errors.<BR/><BR/>This is one of the sites that foreign news agencies refer for authentic information, and for them Sri Lanka must look like nation made up of illiterates. <BR/><BR/>PLEASE fire the unmitigated baboons who write/edit this incomprehensible drivel and hire a couple of school kids who could do a better job.Roverhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17767233435017760334noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5899907675904775235.post-16179211537439851132008-04-24T05:22:00.000+05:302008-04-24T05:22:00.000+05:30It’s a failed operation. 120+ dead. 400 injured wi...It’s a failed operation. 120+ dead. 400 injured with 250 of them either seriously injured or more injured than “walking wounded”.<BR/><BR/>About 7 AFVs destroyed/damaged <BR/><BR/>LTTE is holding on to their positions.<BR/><BR/>There is no sense in splitting hairs over it. WE LOST THE BATTLE, FULLSTOP.<BR/><BR/>For some LTTE pigs this is a “victory” for the SLA!! They want more such “victories” for the SLA by following similar strategies.<BR/><BR/>But the important thing is to LEARN from it at least now. The 2006 & 2007 similar debacles in the same place were played down by the MoD and they continue with the SAME blunder over and over and over again.<BR/><BR/>This is only one battle; there will be dozens of battles ahead. We should learn and move forward.<BR/><BR/>What have we learnt?<BR/>1. LTTE is very capable of raining artillery on advancing troops from the safety of over 20km – 27km.<BR/>2. there is NOTHING the advancing troops can do to protect themselves from artillery barrages in this terrain<BR/>3. yesterday’s battle was decided on the strength of fire power and NOT manpower<BR/>4. the real battle is to take on the LTTE artillery. <BR/>5. from present SLA FDLs we cannot reach LTTE artillery<BR/>6. SLAF is better suited to bomb these long range LTTE big guns<BR/>7. first we must identify LTTE arti. Positions; these are changing and real-time data on these positions is a must<BR/>8. then we should destroy these positions<BR/>9. their destruction should also be filmed<BR/>10. new artillery build-up should also be identified and destroyed<BR/>11. Supply routes of arti. Shells, etc., etc. should also be monitored and bombed<BR/>12. Essentially monitoring and bombing should be very closely co-ordinated. If possible should be done by the same aircraft<BR/>13. A radius of 20km from LTTE arti positions should be marked and if the circle is falling in the sea, the possibility of SLN involvement must be considered. On land area, the possibility of fast deploying MBRLs, our arti. Guns must be considered.<BR/>14. The battle should be analysed also from the pov of the LTTE. Since they won it they will want to copy it again and again.<BR/>15. This time the threat of LTTE anti-tank guys was lesser compared to the threat of arti. Barrage. However, the good work we did to face such an eventuality must be maintained.<BR/>16. those responsible for this debacle and the 2006 & 2007 debacles MUST be identified and handled appropriately. Otherwise we will see another one very soon.<BR/>17. SLAF’s ability to engage LTTE arti. Positions DURING a battle must be increased. LTTE cannot hide their arti. Underground during yesterday’s battle!!!!<BR/><BR/><B>SLDF’s capabilities in identifying and destroying LTTE arti positions on a timely basis will be the biggest contributing factor in winning the war. MoD should immediately get into building this capability. </B>Moshe Dyanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08762527540378686097noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5899907675904775235.post-3096291006472258902008-04-24T05:11:00.000+05:302008-04-24T05:11:00.000+05:30how the hell can they fight, one of them has a hug...how the hell can they fight, one of them has a huge gut, he wont even be able to run away from the armySenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00551835646756080748noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5899907675904775235.post-87288699731391214962008-04-24T04:05:00.000+05:302008-04-24T04:05:00.000+05:30Defencewire, this was an interesting photo amongst...Defencewire, this was an interesting photo amongst those making the rounds on pro-LTTE sites.<BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://www.tamilnet.com/pic.html?path=/img/publish/2008/04/23_04_08_mukamalai_02.jpg&width=800&height=424&caption=" REL="nofollow">Tamilnet Image</A><BR/><BR/>1st are these two anyone important?<BR/><BR/>2nd the one tiger seems to have tiger fatigued combat helment and body armour, are they making their own or redoing ones they have brought in? This is the first time I have seen such equipment being used by the tigers. I know some of their boat crews wear helmets etc but these all seem to be ones captured from the SLA, unlike the ones in this photo.<BR/><BR/>Thanks.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03009328772316666134noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5899907675904775235.post-14738538483675958302008-04-24T02:36:00.000+05:302008-04-24T02:36:00.000+05:30yes you will"The latest setback came despite offic...yes you will<BR/><BR/>"The latest setback came despite official claims that the separatists had been virtually wiped out.<BR/><BR/>At the start of the year, the military said there were only 3,000 Tiger rebels left.<BR/><BR/>Latest official defence ministry figures, which include Wednesday's toll, show that 3,073 Tigers have been killed by security forces this year."<BR/><BR/>http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5gNzrYOYvlx1LsO-HuOLCKHZ-0xpgPeterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09008397586569019159noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5899907675904775235.post-56696943220719988242008-04-24T02:30:00.000+05:302008-04-24T02:30:00.000+05:30Tnet pics on SLA soldiers is propaganda for the Di...Tnet pics on SLA soldiers is propaganda for the Diaspora ! Mortar and Arty killed those poor soldiers it's the same old trap guys ! Grab your balls cuz, this iz the fight to the finish ! We will never know the true ltte KIA's which are hundreds so... calm down this is not a cake walk !<BR/><BR/>Support the troops cuz... we are just spectators fellas ! But, this show SLAS still lack CAS assets.<BR/>Anyway, that's my 2 cents.Rajaratasurferhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15877701773284721637noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5899907675904775235.post-30288913111006400242008-04-24T02:08:00.000+05:302008-04-24T02:08:00.000+05:30Mr. Ilanthirayan provided details of the arms and ...Mr. Ilanthirayan provided details of the arms and ammunition seized by the Tigers:<BR/><BR/><BR/>Forty-one T-56 Type 2 assault rifles, <BR/>Three T-56 Type-1 assault rifles, <BR/>Five Light Machine Guns (LMG), <BR/>Two PKT Tank machine guns, <BR/>Five Rocket Propelled Grenade Launchers (RPG), <BR/>Three 40 mm Grenade Launchers, <BR/>Seven anti-armour RPG shells, <BR/>Twenty-one anti-personnel RPG shells, <BR/>Twenty-six propellers for RPGs, <BR/>8500 inter-medium ammunition, <BR/>1500 chained ammo for machine guns, <BR/>104 magazines <BR/>Twelve helmets <BR/><BR/>They released pictures too...<BR/>http://www.tamilnet.com/art.html?catid=13&artid=25410குழைக்காட்டான்https://www.blogger.com/profile/14598336533460416833noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5899907675904775235.post-61467666575544356522008-04-24T02:01:00.000+05:302008-04-24T02:01:00.000+05:30Whoever is commanding the troops in the North shou...Whoever is commanding the troops in the North should be fired. So far they have failed too many times and lost too many lives. I think it's time for new military leadership in that area.Vibehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02944941407266610982noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5899907675904775235.post-66057254724189677562008-04-24T01:02:00.000+05:302008-04-24T01:02:00.000+05:30I can accept (very painfully) if these brave soldi...I can accept (very painfully) if these brave soldiers sacrificed their lives for their country according to some well thought of strategy..but this nonsense is an utter waste of their precious lives..Srilankanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14669706047196092243noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5899907675904775235.post-552476162005584942008-04-24T00:58:00.000+05:302008-04-24T00:58:00.000+05:30SnakeVI,Fully agree bro..SnakeVI,<BR/>Fully agree bro..Srilankanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14669706047196092243noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5899907675904775235.post-86456815913105563772008-04-24T00:48:00.000+05:302008-04-24T00:48:00.000+05:30what a disaster for entire nation.what a disaster for entire nation.sanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17654267738224543252noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5899907675904775235.post-84854966392409894042008-04-23T22:50:00.000+05:302008-04-23T22:50:00.000+05:30Taking Muhamalai expose kilinocchi. Therefore this...Taking Muhamalai expose kilinocchi. Therefore this much be one of the best guarded Defense lines of LTTE. I am pretty sure our COs are not stupid, they probably knew that this was going to be tough, but if we want to make a push to kilinocchi we have to take Muhamalai.. If we did take their first FDL, I think our sacrifices are worth it..dhanushkahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02535056475277306993noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5899907675904775235.post-13627357036331611562008-04-23T21:45:00.000+05:302008-04-23T21:45:00.000+05:30DW-Do n't we use the intelligence info before move...DW-<BR/>Do n't we use the intelligence info before movements?<BR/>Why do we play for the land while our main objective is to kill the terrorists?pereinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02440639836678576676noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5899907675904775235.post-57714062065234845952008-04-23T21:33:00.000+05:302008-04-23T21:33:00.000+05:30The Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam (LTTE) in a s...<B><BR/><BR/><BR/>The Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam (LTTE) in a statement claimed they had also wounded about 400 government troops in the latest fighting in the northern peninsula of Jaffna.<BR/><BR/>"The Sri Lanka army suffered more than 100 killed in action and about 400 wounded in action," the LTTE statement said. "Sixteen valiant LTTE soldiers sacrificed their lives in this confrontation."<BR/><BR/>However, the military rejected Tiger claims and said only 38 government troops were killed and 84 wounded. The military said troops had killed 52 Tigers.<BR/><BR/>There was no independent verification of the claims. Unconfirmed reports said about 127 soldiers were killed or missing following the latest fire fight.<BR/><BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20080423/wl_sthasia_afp/srilankaunresttoll_080423152418" REL="nofollow">AFP</A><BR/><BR/><BR/></B>LKDOODhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18426997279106115254noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5899907675904775235.post-16146140250133880142008-04-23T21:32:00.000+05:302008-04-23T21:32:00.000+05:30DefenceWire,Can you please enlightnen us little mo...DefenceWire,<BR/><BR/>Can you please enlightnen us little more about the operation, thisng like reason, timing etc?Sam Pererahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07809036198381030982noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5899907675904775235.post-89743652170680804682008-04-23T21:31:00.000+05:302008-04-23T21:31:00.000+05:30Why why why, this is just history repeating it sel...Why why why, this is just history repeating it self. SLF has not changed its tactics, I agree with Snakevi the role of the SLAF is not enough, and they may have bombed the tiger positions after everything was over.<BR/>SLAF should be airborne and waiting for targets. Not the other way. Bombing the positions after they have taken the guns away makes no difference.<BR/>I don’t know why the top brass don’t seem to understand this.<BR/>Are they still not coordinating with each other? Due to some bureaucratic bulsh**.<BR/>They need to change the line of command. Allowing air strikes to be called by troops on the ground. Is this happening now?<BR/>Without this kind of coordinated attack, the Muhamai front should not be attempted. The commanders should have realized that open ground is too risky, due to mortar and arti fire.We should focus our attack from south to north not north to south.<BR/><BR/>My heart felt sympathy to the heroes who laid their lives for the country. May they attain Nibbhana.koombiyahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08483203343306117430noreply@blogger.com