The Sri Lanka Armed Forces have been told that the LTTE will be banned, according to a decision made at today's Cabinet Meeting. Exact details will be made available later.
Meanwhile the 58 and 53 Divisions are expected to meet up shortly as Pallai starts being vacated by the LTTE. Only a weak frontline remains at Palai presently, which will be overcome shortly. The 55 Division also marched south at Nagarkovil without any resistance. LTTE seems to have vacated these areas via the sea.
The Army is also expecting a large exodus of civilians, over 100,000 to start moving out of Puthukudiirippu- Vishwamadu areas. They expect to take charge of these civilians at Kilinochchi. The idea is to channel them to safety along the A-34.
Wednesday, January 7, 2009
53 and 58 to meet-up as LTTE ban comes into effect
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AnandaUSA,
I share your concern about letting them escape Jaffna peninsula. but we have to put it into perspective
- General public is easily pleased with territorial gains, they are easily discouraged by SLA losses. so if we engaged enemy at every single opportunity then do you think we'll be able to maintain the ratio of enemy to SLA losses to something like 5:1 as Lt.Sarath Fonseka mentioned?
Risking loosing public support and political will is not worth at this stage in battle. Especially with Indian elections coming up around April they'll exert a lot of political pressure on GOSL to end the war so we'll need all the support we can get.
- Strategy might be to keep hitting them hard then eventually when it becomes unbearable and they become cornered most of the uniformless cadres would lay down their weapons and surrender or escape to SLA controlled areas pretending to be civilians. As far as SLA is concerned those cadres are neutralized.
So why fight them when you dont have to?
Mahen's "Today's Special".. enjoy..
Rift between SLA commander and SLN commander:
/Blucher said...
Guys the conflict between Army Commander and Navy Commander is so bad that President Rajapakse has taken following steps:
1) Invited Erik Solheim to negotiate a CFA between the parties
2) Invited SLMM to fail to observe any violations
3) Requested Norwegian Peoples Aid to urgently donate earth moving equipment to allow Navy Commander to make an earth bund to stop an army invasion
4) Invited Nachikuda Mahen to provide the entertainment as his next official dinner.
Blogger Peter said...
Mahen my informant who's a high ranking defence official working closely with Gotabaya, informed me that the rift between the Navy commander and the Army commander has escalated so much that President and the Defence Secretary are now at loggerheads. It is reliably known that president has taken army commander's side and the Defence Secretary is backing Navy commander.
There are serious concerns that the rift will furhter escalate into a full blown war between the army and navy./
Moshe, Rana,
Like Moshe, I am really upset that the SLDF let, or are-letting, the Tigers evacuate the Jaffna peninsula, without harvesting them, or compelling them to surrender there. The reason is, we don't want the Tigers to concentrate their forces too much. Although some concentration makes harvesting more effective, especially if we corral them without their heavy guns as we had at the Jaffna front after they had removed those weapons from the Jaffna front, too much concentration allows them to adequately man their kill zones. In a front-oriented defensive war strategy, kill zones at the fronts are where the harvesting takes place, and a less numerous defender can keep killing the attacker as long as the attacker keeps feeding the front with troops along than narrow kill zone pre-targeted with artillery, mortars, machine guns and mines.
In my view, in the entire Vanni campaign, the SLA has been reluctant to adopt the Blitzkrieg type of warfare developed by the German Wehrmacht in WW-II, to circumvent the largely static trench-wars of WW-I that were just killing machines without any movement. In blitzkrieg warfare, highly mobile attacking forces were delivered behind the enemy's front either as airdropped or sea-landed commando units, or as strong armoured units that broke-through along very narrow fronts on land, to encircle fortifications, isolate them, and move into the rear of the enemy disrupting their supply routes and reinforcements. Once encircled, the fortifications were then rendered irrelevant to the course of the battle, were reduced at leisure, and usually surrendered.
Instead, the SLA has used advances along several relatively broad fronts, using different fronts to keep the enemy occupied while exploiting advances at others. Whenever they ran into trouble, or could not make headway at one front, they shifted gears and put the pressure elsewhere, always threating some important target, diverting the enemy to that location, and opening up opportunities for attack elsewhere. This was a lower risk strategy for the SLA than the higher-risk Blitzkrieg shock-strategy, and it was largely successful.
The question, that Moshe correctly poses, is how will the LTTE deploy their cadre now, that they have largely succeeded in evacuating their forces out of the Jaffna peninsula? I think they will attempt one, or more, of three things:
1. Create and defend a strong fortification across A35 at Vallikandal and Puthukkyiduruppu and parallel to A35 on the landward side to essentially encircle the A35 route on the North, West and South, with perhaps only a weak fortification on the seaward side. They will locate their artillery near Puthukkyiduruppu. Here is where they will attempt to make their last conventional stand. This area will contain all of the Vanni civilians who they will try to use as a human shield, and will allow access to the sea. They will try to create an international outcry (with Tamil Nadu's help) against casualties as we are seeing now in the Israeli attack on the Gaza strip.
2. They will send a part of their force in to the Mullaitivu-District-Jungle (i.e., MDJ) where they already have deep bunkers, ammunition, food and fuel stores. These forces will serve as highly mobile commando forces that will attempt to attack, from flank and rear, the SLA forces confronting the A35 fortifications. If A35 fortfications fall, it is possible that LTTE cadre escaping the A35 redoubt will join the MDJ group. I have proposed the building of roads into this jungle area to assist in clearing of the MDJ LTTE cadre, by dividing this dense jungle, bereft of roads, into an array of easily accessed smaller cells. When the MDJ is cleared, the LTTE cadre will metamorphose into "innocent civilians slaves of the LTTE" and will surrender to the SLA, only to reappear upon release as urban guerillas in already prepared safe houses. We will have to establish procedures to control that from happening.
3. Div 59, suitably reinforced with elements of Divs 53 and 55 released from the Northern front, will overcome LTTE forces confronting them North of Mulliyawalai, allowing them to target LTTE supplies and reinforcements to Mullaitivu across the Mullaitivu Lagoon. Therefore, Mullaitivu will soon become UNTENABLE and will have to be abandoned by the LTTE. If that happens, then these SLA forces will next invest and attack Puthukkyiduruppu.
4. Therefore, to forestall the threat to Puthukkyiduruppu, the LTTE will attack Mulliyawalai, Alampil, and Oddusuddan-Keriamadu areas in strength, with the hope of surrounding Div 59 in an isolated pocket, cutting it off from supplies and reinforcements along A34 and other roads from the South, and demolishing it completely. LTTE cadres attacking Alampil are very likely to be delivered by sea. The LTTE needs a big harvest at this time to demoralize, and reverse the continuous series of victories by the SLA. If they can summon the forces to stage one big attack, I am guessing that it will be as I have outlined here. I hope that the SLA and the SLN are prepared to confront and frustrate an attack such as this.
5. Ultimately, not even a bloody success against Div 59 will reverse the course of this war. Such an attack will precede the withdrawal from Mullaitivu area to the fortifications enveloping A35 and the MDJ as I have described in Items 1 & 2 above. To overcome these LTTE forces, the SLA will have to open up the jungle, and attack the A35 fortifications at many points along a broad front to reduce the intensity of the last battles, and to create as many opportunities and paths as possible for the entrapped civilians to escape.
Just my two cents worth!
Ape' Virayanta Jaya Wewa!
Konappu Bandara,
The sniper rifle is definitely not a Dragunov. The Dragunov has a very distinctive stock. The stock is typically wooden and the finish is not as refined.
I believe this is the L96A1. Its made by company called Accuracy International in the UK. This is the standard sniper rifle of the British Army. See the rivets on the stock. Also I can see the shape of the stock through the net. It looks very similar.
The version sold in the USA starts at a base price equivalent to Rupees 4.6 lakhs.
L96A1 sniper rifle
L96A1 sniper rifle
L96A1 sniper rifle
As the LTTE is at the defeating end, it is good when SLA does not give enemy casualty figures.
WE need to remember that many people are trying to pick pieces here and there against SLA.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8VsYDp3Eseo
Hoooooooo....
Palai taken
Konnapu Bandara,
CASC is right.
Its an Accuracy International Arctic Warfare sniper rifle (L96A1/L118A1 in Brit service). You can see them firing it on a youtube clip which I posted on the LNP Kfir thread a few days ago.
You can clearly see the single body chassis (i.e. no seperate stock) and the thumb hole in the stock.
This is a very nice world class piece of kit.
If only we had some Arctic Warfare Magnum/Super Magnum in .338 or an AS50...
Incidentally we do have some have some .50 calibre sniper rifles, acording to one of my friends who shoots at the sports shooting club (normally they use the commando shooting range in ganemulla). Don't know the type though.
Troops of the 53 and 55 Divisions captured Pallai, the main township south of Muhamalai defence line in Jaffna.
It is OK to lecture principles that you can't follow.
This is like a Sri Lankan cop giving a speech on bribery prevention. Pretty hilarious මයිල්.
@MayilRavana මයිල් රාවන
"Thanks for posting something neutral. Please don't attack other bloggers unless they are specifically uttering propaganda against SL or if they are attacking an identified patriot. And don't keep pursuing individuals in a derogatory. Once, twice, that's enough. Pursuing someone to get intelligence in a subtle manner. A different kettle of fish."
Vajira,
Thanks, mate, It seems you are well informed and good to know that, for future clarifications.
Moshi,
Mate, if you are, I am happy too, bro.
Well, wife is bothering me to move back yard lawn, before it gets darker. See you buddies after an hour (lawn moving and some cycling).
Cheers!
PussyTigers said...
[Which make you think, should we not have waited for paranthan to fall before moving forward into a heavily fortified area.]
The answers is: There was a need to keep up the pressure on every front, while breakthroughs were attempted at many fronts. There was really no way to know which one would fail first. The SLA was trying to get past Paranthan, because militarily, that was the key to the Northern front; but it would not give. What finally worked, was the move by Div 59, and other forces, to outflank Mullaitivu-Mulliyawalai by striking towards Puthukkyiduruppu, with lots of fanfare by the MOD. That was partly PR, but it spooked the LTTE and made them withdraw cadres towards the Southern front.
The SLA was testing the resistance, and adapting to the situation as it went along. It had to make sure that N-M-K front continued to tie down the LTTE to allow breakthrough at Paranthan-Kilinochchi. There was no way to know where the dam would burst for sure.
Pansilu
I actually located the 2nd part.
DW has created a dominating male culture here and I haven't met a woman yet. When Darwin formulated his theory, he wasn't thinking about blogs.
If there are no women here and assuming most people here are High-status individuals, at the end we will have a San Fransisco culture here.
Next time when you see guys are fighting for your attention, be humble, they love you :)
"Girls have always liked a rich man, of course. Darwinians used to think this was due to his ability to provide materially for their children. No doubt that is part of it. But the thinking among evolutionary biologists these days is that what is mainly going on is a competition for genes, not goods. High-status individuals are more likely to have genes that promote health and intelligence, and members of the opposite sex have been honed by evolution to respond accordingly. A high-status man will get more opportunities to mate. A high-status woman can be more choosy about whom she mates with."
ever heard of terrorists talking about the GEVENA CONVENTION?
SLDFs screwing terrorists so mercilessly that they are AGAIN talking about the GEVENA CONVENTION!!!!
lol!
if that makes them THINK about the GC at last, lets do it MORE.
AnandaUSA,
Yeah that makes more sense
Thanks for that mate
Pallai fall confirmed
http://defence.lk/new.asp?fname=20090108_02
Brave hearts march on!
LTTPussies on the run yet again
Here kitty kitty kitty
PussyTigers said..
[so if we engaged enemy at every single opportunity then do you think we'll be able to maintain the ratio of enemy to SLA losses to something like 5:1 as Lt.Sarath Fonseka mentioned?]
I am not asking for engaging at "every opportunity", but this EPS & N-M-K pocket was a classic opportunity to entrap, demoralize, and harvest Tigers at a time when their heavy artillery and mortars had been dismantled and were in transit.
I am talking about hitting them on the move by keeping a close watch on the Kilaly Lagoon and the Ocean front, using 24 x 7 UAV monitoring, Mi-24 gunships, MVRLs and close in-shore RABS patrols. We knew what was coming well ahead of time, but we let them escape too lightly.
My two cents worth!
Latest totally usless™ Insignificant™ irrelevant ™ unimportant™ worthless™ valueless™ abandoned™ barren™ Ghost Town™ : Pallai
LOL! LOL! LOL!
LTTpussies need something from Tamilnadu desperately to save their sorry ass
Human chain anyone?
Totally useless pallai,
Dont even know why LTTPussies were there to begin with. Maybe they were just appreciating the natural beauty :D
At last great relief .....
Pallai liberated
Sri Lanka Army soldiers have liberated the Pallai town this morning (Jan 8). According to the defence sources in the battlefront, troops of Army 53 Division operating in the Jaffna theatre, have liberated the town after beating off the terrorists .
Army infantrymen of 1Vijayaba Infantry Regiment (1 VIR), 5 VIR, 5 Gamunu Watch (5GW), and 1 Gajaba Regiment are the first to enter into the town where the terrorist earlier had their heavy artillery gun positions.
OK, just got it from Colombo...the count is 376ish - the confirmed kaputs - but of course, this is from an "unofficial source"...!!! Right,...LMSSAO!!!
Not bad harvesting for barely 6 days into the New Year uh?
Where did this harvesting come from? Aha, I thought you'd never ask! LMSSAO!!!
Here's the clue:
Killi gone, Muhamalai gone, Alimankada gone, and now Pallai gone too!!!
"Zero miles to Pallai"...Truly LMSSAO!!!
"Don't cry for me Sakkilinocchina, I never loved you..."
:)) :)) :))
OaO Asithri
Guys,
Take a look at this.. It looks like prabhakaran
Check this out
DoDo and pussy machngz...
roflmao.. u guys shud consider doing stand up!!! :))
This week:
-Muhamalai, Killi, ESP south captured
-Pallai captured
-Fat Bastard and Soosai at loggerheads
-Insubordinate junior LTTE cadres shot
-Escaping civilians shot and hung
-India sends RAW plane instead of Pranab. India requests SL to hand over Fat Bastard
-US says not to negotiate with Tigers
-UK says Kilinochchi capture will hasten political solution
PS: Oh BTW, last week we captured Iranamadu, Paranthan and Kilinochchi
See what I have told you earlier now Modays have done Moda work, s**t
2009-01-08 90:23:10
MULLAITTIVU: FIGHTER JETS of Sri Lanka Air Force (SLAF) struck a group of Tiger terrorists running a way from PALLAI and ELEPHANT PASS battlefields in the general area CHUNDIKULAM lagoon, Wednesday (7) at about 11.30 p.m.
The same CHUNDIKULAM lagoon area, Fighter jets again strafed a Sea Tiger base and boat movements observed by the Air Force around 7.30 a.m. today (8).
u guys shud consider doing stand up!!!
LOL!
LTTPussies tactically withdrew to mullaitivu because it became unpleasant, too many mosquitoes.
Not a single cadre lost, in fact 100's gave birth on the way back so they have more now. Successful mission all in all.
Oh btw, the 376 is the "feely-touchy"...but the "unfeely-untouchy-but-hardly/barely-alive" is estimated to e another 250 - 300...what a bountiful harvesting this New Year has delivered...and we are still only into the 6/7 days of it!!!
:)) :)) :))
OaO Asithri
hee hee it looks like the looser is back to get more news from here so he could write up his daily looserblog.
Good luck :)
Gringo
[Kill More... Achieve More]
Mate, this should be the "Trivida Hamudawa" motto at least for another couple of years - at least we are sure that the cancer has been removed - permanently!
I am even thinking of having this converted into a bumber sticker very soon!
LMSSAO!!!
OaO Asithri
oh that was a pretender
my bad
PussyTigers said...
[Totally useless pallai,
Dont even know why LTTPussies were there to begin with. ]
Actually, Pallai was where the LTTE had their heavy artillery, and together with Pooneryn, to serve the N-M-K front, and target Jaffna. Some of their largest ammo dumps were also there...thats how confident they were of the strength of their N-M-K defences.
Later, as the SLA advanced north, they targeted the Kilinochchi-Paranthan theater as well. They dismantled and removed those weapons when that area became untenable with the fall of Paranthan.
Konnapu Bandara,
CASC is right.
CASC should be right because he knows what he is talking.
AnadaUSA mate i was being sarchastic :)))
What you say is quite true nevertheless
Must be the women of SL forces.
"COLOMBO: Beer consumption by Sri Lankan women have gone up significantly during the recent past, Dr. Neil Fernando, Consultant Psychiatrist, Angoda Mental Hospital said.
The companies which sell beer had launched a publicity campaign to attract more Sri Lankan women to drink beer, he said. "
Moshe,
Well, here is just a wee bit of harvesting, as a special favor to you, courtesy of the SLAF.
From Defence.lk
[Fighter Jets Strike Fleeing Tigers & Sea Tiger Base
MULLAITTIVU: FIGHTER JETS of the Sri Lanka Air Force (SLAF) struck a group of Tiger terrorists running away from PALLAI and the ELEPHANT PASS battlefields in the general area of CHUNDIKULAM lagoon, Wednesday (7) at about 11.30 p.m.
Fighter jets again strafed a Sea Tiger base and boat movements observed by the Air Force around 7.30 a.m. today (8), in the same CHUNDIKULAM lagoon area.]
Deep Deep down side a 60 foot deep bunker, a sad voice sings aloud....
Un-kiss my Ki’chi
Say you'll be my again
Undo this hurt you caused
When you kissed my usless™ Ki’chi
And walked out of my life
Un-kiss these tears
I cried so many nights
Un-Kiss my Ki’chi
My Ki’chi
Lasantha Wickramathunga Shot. Admitted to Kalubowila.
AnandaUSA
[MULLAITTIVU: FIGHTER JETS of the Sri Lanka Air Force (SLAF) struck a group of Tiger terrorists running away from PALLAI and the ELEPHANT PASS battlefields in the general area of CHUNDIKULAM lagoon, Wednesday (7) at about 11.30 p.m.
Fighter jets again strafed a Sea Tiger base and boat movements observed by the Air Force around 7.30 a.m. today (8), in the same CHUNDIKULAM lagoon area.]
Yes, when I heard it first I was wondering why this "harvesting" was so easy and if this was all an error...but no, I was told the LTTE MFs are currently running for lives – as often the command & control structure has fallen mysteriously - in all directions and evidently the second group had thought it was a good avenue to escape as it had not seen what befell the first group (pulverized and drowned in the lagoon)...
Well, I guess shit happens, except this is beginning to look like diarrhea!
:)) :)) :))
OaO Asithri
Patriots,
I though of an appropriate punishment for VP:
He sentence would be: death by suicide jacket.
He would be made to wear a suicide jacket (or two if he is too fat for one) and a family member of one of a Sri Lankans murdered by a suicide bomber would be selected by lottery to throw the switch.
He would, quite literally, be hoisted on his own petard!
PURAN!!!
MORE GOOD NEWS!!!!
WAITING FOR SOMEONE TO TAKE A SHOT AT MR. MANO GANESHAN!!!
dodo, good one
tony braxton so 90's but ur secret is safe with me :)
duzz said,
"MORE GOOD NEWS!!!!
WAITING FOR SOMEONE TO TAKE A SHOT AT MR. MANO GANESHAN!!!"
Is this the type of country we want?
News News News
[LTTE guns down and hangs fleeing civilians
LTTE has threatened civilians in the areas still held by it with death as traitors if any attempt made to flee. To prove they are serious of this threat they have displayed bodies of 3 civilians near the Ponnambalam hospital. The bodies were hanged on posts that had banners stating "Fate of traitors', according to civilians, who have managed to escape and are now in IDP welfare centers at Vavuniya and Welioya
These civilians were killed by LTTE death squads, and dragged in public a long way before being mutilated and displayed, the sources said. Meanwhile, the rising agitation against LTTE dictatorship has resulted in a few confrontations between civilians and LTTE operatives]
Peaceful "Tamil Aspirations" at work!
Read the full story at:
http://defence.lk/new.asp?fname=20090107_04
Phew!
OaO Asithri
[Lasantha Wickramathunga Shot. Admitted to Kalubowila]
Self-inflicted wounds? ...like the Maharaja arson?
LMSSAO!!!
OaO Asithri
ppl should take a good hard look at themselves and see what sort of future Sri Lanka you want for your selves and your families
Someone is doing its best to discredit the Govt. Now I'm sure of it.
There's no better way of discrediting a Govt than to destroy the anti govt media. I suspect the LTTE hand in this. If its done by a party related to govt, then its totally insane!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tB2OoTtjScE&feature=channel_page
Alimankada Choppey - Shamindra Silva!
LMSSAO!!!
OaO Asithri
oh oh…Warning…!!!
I see the unkempt “history teacher”…the one with deranged eyes, in a long black coat and with undone pant-zipper, salivating at the mouth, has just arrived at the village square…
Mothers, quick, shoo in your children…
OaO Asithri
The Sunday Leader editor Lasantha Wickramatunga has been shot and injured a little while ago by unidentified gunmen. He had been shot on the head while driving his vehicle. He has been rushed to the Kalubowila Hospital and is in a critical condition say hospital sources.
WesaBalli
[Nalin de Silva's rubbish remains rubbish. I agree with paragraph 2 and 3, and para 4 was incoherent. Once again he blames the Tamils for everything in the rest of his op-ed, repeating his usual crap that the Tamils don't have a history in SL more than 200 years (Mayilravana ayya- are you Prof. Nalin??) an argument that has absolutely nothing to do with the LTTE.]
Naturally! We expected to believe this unkempt “history teacher”…the one with deranged eyes, in a long black coat and with an undone pant-zipper, salivating at the mouth than Prof. Nalin De Silva!
ha ha ha…
LMSSAO!!!
OaO Asithri
[Lasantha Wickramathunga Shot. Admitted to Kalubowila]
Not a good news for the government at this moment.
Read last editorial on Sunday Leader before he was shot
http://www.thesundayleader.lk/20090104/editorial-.htm
[Lasantha Wickramathunga Shot. Admitted to Kalubowila]
This is shocking news. This is not good for the government at all.
Shay
[I don't know what you want, but I would like to see a country that is free of terrorists and their supporters]
Why is this rocket science to some "patriots" here???
[Terrorists/traitors must not be allowed to hide behind the law/democracy/human rights etc.]
Well said!
[Getting rid of scum like Mano Ganeshan would definitely be a step in the right direction.]
Who knows...ManoG also will go into a self-inflicted-demise just to discredit MR GOSL!!!
:)) :)) :))
OaO Asithri
i think big conspiracy to aid LTTE.
sirasa and lasantha shooting is connected.
maybe LTTE pistol gang or paid foolish singala underworld acting on behalf of LTTE.
they might even try kumar rupasinghe and jehan perera.
better to give them protection too.
this is not a time for asthiri to be happy. it is time the lanka government to b smart.
Lasantha dead.
Shay,
"I don't know what you want, but I would like to see a country that is free of terrorists and their supporters. Terrorists/traitors must not be allowed to hide behind the law/democracy/human rights etc."
I would also like to see a country free of Terrorists but Who defines who is a terrorist supporter?
If a person has an opinion different to one that is the official line and is espousing it dose he/she become a terrorist supporter? If that is the case the country you want to live in and the coountry i wan tot live in are totally different countries!
LTTE knows exploding bombs in Colombo will not get them any where.
The only other way is to attack the anti-govt media so as to discredit the govt and make it unpopular, hoping that the IC will then make a u-turn on its stance. It will also serve the purpose of taking the spotlight away from heavy military defeats suffered by LTTE and distract the military from its focus in Wanni
Govt had everything going for them. It would be insane to upset the apple cart and jeopardize its popularity by attacking the unarmed media in brute force
LTTE is desperate. Such desperate times calls for desperate tactics.
Let us thread with utmost caution at this critical juncture.
I got the news from a 3rd party. trying to confirm it.
Thiru,
Point taken.
I agree with you.
MR is on the top of the world now. He doesn,t want to do a thing like this. Very unlikely.
DoDo,
Gud point.
An election is coming and all the traitors are now united. Therefore, the reputation of the government is very important at this moment.
Gov. must put it's maximum effort to find the truth of these two attacks. I also like to see a traitor free SL, but gov. must be careful in coming weeks.
Nisal,DoDo,
Very true.
At the begging of of 2008, Maheshveran was shot dead in the same fashion.
"Sunday Leader editor Lasantha Wickrematunge was shot and critically injured at Attidiya junction today. He was rushed to the Colombo South Teaching Hospital (Kalubowila) and then transferred to Colombo National Hospital, they said."
Lasantha shot
MTV burned and claymore used
How long before MR blamed?
Remember how Premadasa was initially blamed for assassination of Lalith Athulathmudali
I hope Sunanda bastard is the NEXT.
and then Wickramabahu....
All are TRAITORS....
Cable,
"If a person has an opinion different to one that is the official line and is espousing it dose he/she become a terrorist supporter? If that is the case the country you want to live in and the coountry i wan tot live in are totally different countries!"
In the case of Mano Ganeshan, its more than just a difference of opinion. He is known to have harboured suicide bombers. Of course he will deny knowledge (and the law might not be able to prove it) but only a gullible idiot will believe that.
I don't particularly want to get into a pointless debate with you about democracy, traitors, right to free speech etc.
Countries like Sri Lanka which have too much democracy have mostly failed to get very far. Countries that have succeeded and to which we aspire to be (Singapore for example as popularly cited by many including Ranil etc) were never democracies and they didn't give a shit for peoples right to have opinions, free speech etc. Obviously, bad dictatorships can also be disastrous. But sometimes, certain sacrifices of civil liberties have to be made.
"[Lasantha Wickramathunga Shot. Admitted to Kalubowila]
Self-inflicted wounds? ...like the Maharaja arson?
LMSSAO!!!
OaO Asithri"
Whoever did it, worst news for Gov't.
At a time the military is having unprecedented success all the glory is being tarnished. Everyone here knows who will benefit from it being tarnished but IC does not look at it that way.
Wait for BBC to run story on this and link with "cause" of LTTE and say tamils can't live in SL. Then wait for rush of asylum seekers rushing to UK.
The man who had balls to write something special paid the price. MR's resume is getting heavier by each day, may be, the bonus package is on the way for him.
B#1
"I hope Sunanda bastard is the NEXT.
and then Wickramabahu....
All are TRAITORS...."
Then we should take them before court and convict them.
They are insignifcant little shits. They will only become significant if they are shot. These guys are not worth a bullet.
Guys, this attack on boats is really heart filling. Does anyone know the outcome? Harvest? How many?
I visited Mahen’s illankana blog to check how he can screenplay a new drama where his elites take the fleeing pussycats out of burning boats, right under the SLAF fire. Well, even Mahen has lost his creativity. There is no news on boats there.
Pls don’t blame any party for lack of harvest in EPS. There are few facts which make it rather impossible. Again this is a layman’s picture, and it is based on logical comprehension of matters. More knowledged people will hopefully correct my mistakes.
- Although DW stated that they have taken sea routes, I suspect it was only some of the lot [maybe from NagarK]. I’m sure majority took land route, as it does not explain to me by any manner why sea is preferred than land.
- Is the Rd from Iyakachchi to Chundikulam inundated at places? Boats may have been used where the road is untenable.
- Anyway as long as one road is open, you can’t blame anyone for escape.
- Even in sea, they must have gone along coast mostly and only if needed used boats.
- We cannot risk SLN lives and assets unless we have a sure case of harvest.
- We were very cautious on EPS. We still are. You can’t harvest on a ground when you’re very cautious. Winning EPS, even at 0 harvest is a big victory, due to strategic location.
- I always wanted to see Puthu and adjacent Challai shore going down before Kili, EPS and Mula for this very reason. It would have boxed anyone coming down from EPS. My designated harvesting grounds were Kili and Mula cities. EPS was what I wanted to fall eventually. And all this would have been only possible if we closed in Puthu from Oddu, Iranamadu and Mulliyaweli. Anyway my lines of thoughts may be wrong, and surely not to be followed by big brains.
- Vigilance at immediate coast is quite impossible unless we use UAV. I am still puzzled for the lesser use of UAV. We can use small scale cheap [preferably locally produced] UAV fleets on F/T basis. Anyway, this has never been.
- We still have no way for night vigilance. So they could have used nights for escape.
- More than the harvest I’m worried about guns. Soon we’ll hear them from Chundikulam. 58th going along A35 should be extra careful.
- When it comes to sea and air you can’t expect 100%, due to difficulties in vigilance. So two boats went down as many escaped.
i can't believe the government is doing these things. Specially at a time where army is winning the battle. Could be a work of LTTE to discredit the government. they have no other way to stop the army. so it seems like they r trying everything to stop the military victories.
just as kaavalan mentioned, the true faces of several western nations and mainly india have been shown. india after long claiming that it aint helping directly in the war has been caught with its hands in the cookie jar. tamil nadu is slowly but steadily beginning to realize that the indian govt is in fact worsening the situation for eelam tamils.
military victory is not totally a victory in the sense that tigers never really had heavy casualties like the sla did in ceaseless waves 1, 2 and 3. withdrawals, whether tactical or not, will give more than one opportunity for a massive fightback. saving the best for last is the phrase best suited for this occasions.
everyone does know that tigers still have several thousand fighters, black tigers, artillery,mortar,navy and even the air tigers.most of which have been seen used in this theatre of battle.
as cool as it may seem for many of u to see the capture of the deserted kilinochchi, do realize that the entire mullaithivu area is still expanse. with the major divisions closing in soon, it is most opportunistic to strike at the right moment instead of falling into pressure. the downside of this is that it might be a really bloody war. but think of it this way, if the army has been fighting in excess of 2 years, the tigers have been planning in excess of 2 years. they know what is coming and when its coming. so its only a matter of time before they decide when and how to strike back. stay tuned. the best is yet to be.
[[Blucher said...
These guys are not worth a bullet.]]
Very true.
DBS Jeyaraj's article "
Tigers in Dunkirk-type evacuation from Jaffna Peninsula" is absolute nonsense. He even has a photograph of Churchill in his article with Churchill's quote "Never, Never, Give Up."
As one of the bloggers remarked earlier, DBS lives in Canada, he cribs most of his information from DefenceWire and DefenceNet, and he narrates it as if he is reporting from the frontline like Sam Kumarawickrama.
/but think of it this way, if the army has been fighting in excess of 2 years, the tigers have been planning in excess of 2 years./
Planning what? tactical withdrawals?
I have a feeling the US embassy's no negotaiation hard stand with LTTE, indian non intervention & govt. ban on LTTE has made somebody REALLY go for the kill. A clean slate. lasantha could be one of many in the list.
cannot rule out the LTTE though. they're well known to kill their own people & those who help them opportunistically. specially after their usefulness is gone.
as for killing vesapillai, u gotta catch the coward & supply broomsticks to wanni mothers whose children were forcibly taken. they'll reduce the fat diabetic pig to pan cake. ha ha ha!
/I hope Sunanda bastard is the NEXT.
and then Wickramabahu....
All are TRAITORS..../
Logically thinking, (or using "consequence theory") LTTE must be behind both sirasa and LasanthaW attacks.
Guys,
Is Lasantha being shot???
I am so sad.... :(
Lasantha Shot :(
Shay,
I dont particularly care abt Mano Ganeshan but since you have used his your reply
"He is known to have harboured suicide bombers"
"(and the law might not be able to prove it) but only a gullible idiot will believe that."
Exactly the point i was trying to make you support killing of a person through extrajudicial means because someone "knew" he was guilty. what if someone "knew" you harboured a suicide bomber would would it be ok for someone to bump you off. Democracy,Judicial oversight is far from perfect but it is the only rational way we have of establishing guilt or Innocence in a civilized society otherwise our way will be no better than the jungle law practiced by the Terrorist you so proclaim to hate
our only way out is to give Charles anthony the leadership. dont you agree?
Samm
"Is Lasantha being shot???"..
I think he was shot. No longer being shot.. lolz
lasantha killing not on swarnawahini noon news. hoax?
Lasantha's last editorial made a good point:
"For its part, the Rajapakse administration lies content in the knowledge that the Sinhalaya is indeed a modaya - so long as people vote like idiots"
The reason why RanilW has been elected to Parliament since 1977!!!
Ninja,
You are correct.
Whoever done, this is good for the country. This may be the LTTEs latest tactic.
Get the list of anti-government peoples and the organizations and destroy them one by one.
Why LTTE selected Lasantha???
Cable;
Democracy,Judicial oversight is far from perfect but it is the only rational way we have of establishing guilt or Innocence in a civilized society otherwise our way will be no better than the jungle law practiced by the Terrorist you so proclaim to hate
Applicable only if there is no war.
During war these ideas take leave.
If you see the mindsets of many modayas on this blog, you won't be surprised that who is behind this killing of Sunday Leader editor.
When WP argued his points in diplomatic way, many Sinhala modayas started to foul mouth him instead of counter his argument. If you had gun and your hands were already with blood, you would have easily killed him just as what MR's henchmen did against the editor of Sunday Leader.
After all, WP is not even pro-Tamil just as this editor of SL, who merely stated the facts, that's all.
velluprabhakaran,
He is not dead yet.
I guess this is what LTTE wants now a days ! They tried to push the TamilNadu monkeys to arrange a ceasefire and it failed. Now they have taken the task to their hands..
To discredit the government to the maximum and hear the scream of those LTTE supporting NGOs like reporters without borders..
DBS Jeyraj's site transcurrens.com is working overtime these days to uplift the sagging moral of the Tamil diaspora. Gone are even semblance of moderation they demonstrated in the past.
Latest attempt is to create a rift between SF and Karuna:)
DBSJ may not be overtly pro-LTTE, but at the end of the day, they're separatists to be core and of course very much part of the Tamil diaspora.
The pangs of remorse by watching a fellow separatist and former soul mate sink must be the reason for the recent JK Rowling style articles...LOL! LOL! LOL!
re: mtv/lasantha/other traitors
1. legal action should have been/should be taken against them for treason, etc.
2. new laws should be enacted to punish them. and punish them.
3. failing 1 & 2 above, bullets, bombs, etc. should be wasted to kill them. in the case of mtv, the culprits ONLY.
4. #3 should be planned well to have a minimum impact. of course, IC, etc. will scream but the worth of traitors for SL is INSIGNIFICANT. let them scream. these scum MUST be cleaned. getting rid of them is MORE important than getting a good name from the IC, RSF, etc.
5. STRIKE WHEN THE IRON IS HOT. but strike EFFECTIVELY. no half jobs.
6. everyone has the right to express themselves WITHOUT being intimidated, attacked, killed, etc.
BUT NO FCUKING BASTARD has the right to commit treason against SL (or any other country). if they do, they MUST pay for it. if they do it and don't pay, well, they MUST BE MADE TO PAY!!
7. i wish all the traitors are (eventually at least) KILLED MERCILESSLY (we did a list the other day). they deserve NOTHING else.
8. don't be idealistic on this. be practical. it is either they or the good men.
9. the golden rule about traitors/terrorists/seperatists....ALL traitors/terrorists/seperatists CAN be silenced through violence. YES! they can be silenced through violence
why? they will not have effective followers and they cannot continue their projects from HELL! believe me.
Sujeewa Kokawala,
"Applicable only if there is no war.
During war these ideas take leave."
I am not talking abt killing Terrorists here. This is the Editor of a Newspaper. Admittedly a very biased newspaper.
If you are of the opinion that during a war you can kill Newspaper editors and bomb Media institutions then i can not then i am afraid we have nothing much to talk about
I can see the fake ptriotic morons are jumping in joy at this latest moronic act by the government..
Wake up fools!
these sorta action only help ltte and their cause...
SLDF is doing a great job and nobody needs to undermine their efforts by getting into low class thuggery!
I too hated lasantha's harsh view on gosl and sldf. Tru one must critique but he never seem to give credit to sldf and gosl when it was due and in my view that's a pretty shitty thing to do...
But to try and kill him cos he has a different view is completely un acceptable...
Sirasa was a huge fuck up by GOSL and so is this...
There's no way sirasa attack could have been done without gosl blessings and also this latest attack on lasantha with security being so strict around colombo...
I feel that politicians are becoming more and more arrogant by the day thanks to victories of our forces...
But this moronic behavior can only be accepted by utter stupid morons...
We need a clean victory over ltte terrorist scummies. This extra baggage of low class political thuggery will not help our cause one bit
Moshe, very well said.. :p
I am not talking abt killing Terrorists here. This is the Editor of a Newspaper. Admittedly a very biased newspaper.
If you are of the opinion that during a war you can kill Newspaper editors and bomb Media institutions then i can not then i am afraid we have nothing much to talk about
What I mean is during a war anything can happen. It is a ground where many norms are obsolete. If you're already assured that MR/GR/SF ordered these, then that is also wrong. Govt may be linked, but don't forget that there are many parties involved. Some ppl make use of situ.
So I think that during war such things HAPPEN and that is not a reason to imagine Govt did that.
Anyway I am against this garandi killing, and I strongly believe that main SLDF has no involvement. This has signature of a low quality operator who has nothing to do with war against terror.
Cable,
"what if someone "knew" you harboured a suicide bomber would would it be ok for someone to bump you off."
If I was a terrorist like Mano Ganeshan and spent my time speaking on their behalf and also happened to have harboured suicide bombers (in this case its a known fact, not someones accusation or a coincidence), I would be prepared to pay the consequences.
"Democracy,Judicial oversight is far from perfect but it is the only rational way we have of establishing guilt or Innocence in a civilized society otherwise our way will be no better than the jungle law practiced by the Terrorist you so proclaim to hate"
Tell that to the Americans and the inmates at Guantanomo Bay for starters. Or perhaps the USA is also not good enough for you and your family to live (lets forget about the democracy they have brough to Iraq/Afghanistan and other places)? Before you start, dont give me that crap about Kakka Barak Obama and how he will change things. When it domes to the crunch, he will do the same things they have always done.
People like you must come from different planets because you are obvioulsy not capable of seeing/learning from what is happening in this one. SL cant hope to work miracles and fight terrorist without abusing a few rights, the same way it has/is being done in every other country that has faced these situations. Not to mention most other countries that have succeeded economically.
Well well, look whose crying folks
Puhul Hora Karen Denei...LOL!
Sunday Leader Editor shot in Colombo - TamilNet
[Thu, 08 Jan 2009, 05:59 GMT]
Lasantha Wikramatunga, the chief editor of the English Weekly, which is critical of the Rajapaksa government was shot by unknown gunmen Thursday morning around 9:30 a.m. while he was on his way to work, initial reports from Colombo said. Mr. Wikramatunga was rushed to Kalubowila hospital in critical condition. The newspaper and its editor as well as the editor of Morning Leader have been harassed and threatened continuously during the last three years. All Leader publications are very critical towards the government and exponents of opposition political views.
B#1
I don't know who shot him but I suspect LTTE paid sinhala underworld. Your concern is also understood. Let me explain, in short.
In SL there is some thing wrong with mottos of "protecting media freedom", protecting human rights" etc.
I don't think any US media (CNN, FOX, etc) going to blame there forces in such a way their enemy (Al Quida) get advantage, in any case.
I don't think even any muslim related media in India supported terrorists or even Pakistan in related events.
But in SL it seems as per the law media freedom includes supporting terrorists. Human rights is almost terrorist rights. (Its said SLDF is having big legel/HR issues when dealing with captured LTTE terrorists.) When law is itself stupid, some people will do the right thing, as they believe and others will support it or approve it, even though it is against the stupid law.
Looks like Taminet was almost prepared to write Lasantha's Obituary Notice...LOL! LOL! LOL!
Moshe,
News first should be raided and questioned. If they keep on behaving this manner it should be banned, barring Sirasa/MBC/MTV from news.
Sirasa's low quality should be addressed by minimum guidelines for media quality and that is out of this context.
No way you can KILL sirasa, as it is a boig organization. Cancelling licence is the option if they go out of control.
Lasantha should go to jail for treason.
Nobody should WASTE weapons for nitwits.
But I seriously doubt this is work of SLDF. There are ppl in govt with the same quality to do them.
Who is next?
Since LTTE has been banned, TNA is next on the radar. If you kill TNA MPs as stray dogs by one by one, nobody will question you.
What happened in the case of 17 NGO Tamil workers who were killed in execution style by SLN in Trinco?
If you can kill NGOs, you can kill any newborn babies too.
Troops are poised to take full control of A9 within the next 48hrs.
Troops are fast moving towards EPS.
-dailynews alert
Shay,
"People like you must come from different planets because you are obvioulsy not capable of seeing/learning from what is happening in this one. SL cant hope to work miracles and fight terrorist without abusing a few rights, the same way it has/is being done in every other country that has faced these situations. Not to mention most other countries that have succeeded economically."
I hate to use as an example but since you seem to take it as an example just show me one instance during their so called war on terror where the goverment has attacked a media insttution or killed a news editor in their own country?
" SL cant hope to work miracles and fight terrorist without abusing a few rights,"
On the contrary SL has worked miracles and manged to bring down the most ruthless terrorist organization down to their knees just tell me how bombing Sirasa and shooting Lasntha will help the goverments fight against LTTE? I can not for the life of me think of one reason other than removing oppposing views from the political front.
Sujeewa,
"If you're already assured that MR/GR/SF ordered these, then that is also wrong."
I am not assured of anything but leave alone shooting Lasantha but there must be some suspicion even for you how a heavily armed group of 15 persons came in a Van at the dead of the night not far from Panagoda camp and managed to firbomb Sirasa Studios and get away without being even being seend by any checkpoint littered accros colombo?
I am sure if they wanted to GOVT can track down the ppl who did this
Bhairav,
No point trying to discuss with brain washed one way thinkers.
If they are honestly looking for peace, why would they need to ban LTTE.
Ban has fully pushed us more towards arms with out leaving gaps.
What happened in the case of 17 NGO Tamil workers who were killed in execution style by SLN in Trinco?
What about many NGO operatives being terrorists. Should they be given free run?
I'm not sure about that 17, but many others are. That is the reality.
Bhairav, do you accept that SLDF has a right to kill terrorists, as a military?
Vajira,
Looks like our guess is correct.
Ninja
fair points... But we have to find a way to better tackle terror supporting media without getting our hand dirty!
where do you draw the line? more importantly who draws the line...
leader paper will be rejected by those who understand situ a bit better... they cater to a smaller segment that want to see that style of writing and garbage... Those guys can't make a huge difference IMO...
The problem is that in the eyes of most moderates, killing of journos and attacks on tv stations don't go down very well... And most these moderates are the deciders even in elections etc...
The point is that even with sirasa and now with lasantha...If gosl had a better way to handle it... Maybe like Moshe says prosecute them against treason, the final solution is far better than this..
true CNN and the likes will not go against their countries but that has being something that's grown in that country. I'm sure there must be some media that goes against US too.. Killing them and damaging property etc like this cannot be condoned...
we are not terrorists to silence all those who have opposing views...
if those views are really damaging, get in some laws or whatever to tackle that instead stooping so low to thuggery
that's just my view but it seems like the majority of "patriots" here want the government to the big bully and have it only their way
"If they are honestly looking for peace, why would they need to ban LTTE."
yeah right...
we were honestly looking into peace when we lifted the bloody ban for the CFA and what happened...
we lost so many intel folks, greats like kadir, almost lost our army commander and the defense secretary... And what did ltte do???
Kept on wanting to buy time and talk about minor matters leaving the core issues aside...
when they finally forced gosl to defunct the failed CFA officially they have killed hundreds of SLDF, got planes and started an air wing etc etc...
LTTE never wants peace with gosl and never wanted a solution other than Eelam...
Something that will never be a reality and will drive tamils to extinction in this land...
If anybody is to blame for this latest bloodshed it's only LTTE and their supporters
"do you accept that SLDF has a right to kill terrorists, as a military?"
we should deal with ANYONE who poses a danger to the territorial integrity of the nation. (in the appropriate manner depending on the level of threat the individual poses).
If you guys want to make fun of terrorists so be it, but constant ridiculing of general population of Tamilnadu makes me question your IQ. Generalize much?
From whatever I can infer from past few days.. terrorists are on both sides, one killing people via suicide bombs and the other via secretive means. There will be peace only when people let go of their petty differences and racialism and try to be unified as one countrymen treating everyone equally.
Sometimes I am really proud to be an Indian, there is a lot for other countries to learn from us. It is one place where anyone from any language or religion has means to live respectfully and peacefully.
Sri Lanka has too much press freedom. Other Countries including US would not allow irresponsible reporting during a war. Papers like "The Leader" and Sirasa TV are very irresponsible. Irrespective of any party (or politics), the leaders of a country or the governing party should not be subjected to such "third class" criticism.
Bhairav, do you accept that SLDF has a right to kill terrorists, as a military?
Velu,
I need Bhairav's answer. However Bhairav has been slipping away from similar Qs. We'll see.
"Sometimes I am really proud to be an Indian, there is a lot for other countries to learn from us".
yea! specially street shitting from tamil nadu!
ha ha ha!
Cable,
"I hate to use as an example but since you seem to take it as an example just show me one instance during their so called war on terror where the goverment has attacked a media insttution or killed a news editor in their own country?"
Well, the US did manage to bomb the Al Jazeera office somewhere didn't they? Despite having the most advanced technology, intelligence gathering etc. At a time of war, mainstream western media (even the size of Sunday Leader) would not be critical of their government/pro-terrorists to the extent they are here, so the need doesn't really arise.
"On the contrary SL has worked miracles and managed to bring down the most ruthless terrorist organization down to their knees just tell me how bombing Sirasa and shooting Lasntha will help the goverments fight against LTTE? I can not for the life of me think of one reason other than removing oppposing views from the political front"
And do you know how many illegal acts the military would have had to conduct in order to achieve that victory?? Do you think the war was only fought in the north? How do you think information is extracted from terrorists suspects?? Do you think they foil bombings/terror cells just by chance?? Ever heard of the white vans??? If you think the SLDF (or any other military for that matter) got this far by playing by the rules and not violating any rights you are sadly mistaken and its best you live in your blissful ignorance.
As for Lasantha/Sirisa I don;t thinks its really necessary for the government to silence them at the moment. So it could even be done by someone else. However, if harm should come to traitors, I wouldn;t really condemn it. They are reaping what they have sowed.
..
Ranil said
If anybody is to blame for this latest bloodshed it's only LTTE and their supporters
I think you should correct it like this
If anybody is to blame for this latest bloodshed it's only LTTE and their supporters mainly Ranil Wickrmasinghe.
Kuttu
I'm using my real name which happens to be "Ranil" on the blog :) :)
aint no RW fan :)
But to be fair...you can't put the blame on RW for LTTE problems. the man came to power by votes. we put him there and he had his way of doing things. Not that i agree with his view but admittedly from a military point of view CFA had it benefits to us also... Intel comm knows this very well despite the massive losses...
RW and UNP as a whole is not serving the needs of the country right now trying to take narrow political mileage...
But at the same time, present government is acting like a big bully trying to silence all dissenting views also due to a weak and lame opposition
even ranil's supporters have been caught red handed using white vans. it's the most common mode of transport. specially for LTTE terras. ha ha ha!
Hear its almost over for LW. "Brain dead".
DoDo,
Yes Bro.. I too heard that he is almost dead.
before ceasefire LTTE = 2 artillery, 3,000 reclusive cadres.
after CF LTTE = 100'S OF ARTI GUNS + THOUSANDS OF AMMO ROUNDS + 12,000 CADRES + western recognition + planting of cadres under political activity all over the island + air force wannabe + radio stations at our expense etc, etc, etc...
if that's weakening what the hell does strenghthning mean?
[[DoDo said...
Hear its almost over for LW. "Brain dead".]]
No difference, his brain was already dead.
news is that the man is dead
nisal,
i agree. when it comes to patriotism all his cells were dead.
he was anti-sinhala & especially anti- buddhist.
VP
mate... those numbers you gave of b4 CFA story is what we estimated. Doesn't mean they are accurate...
pop the question to the real experts, the DW team and ask them their view...
if the CFA didn't help us also or not...
I aint saying it didn't help ltte cos it really did in so many ways... but we to had our gains..
Puran Appu,
I knew you were silently smirking at the false "EPS capture euphoria".
Great call by you mate, I only agreed readily.
The manouvering of 53 & 55 Div. when they enter the mainland will be very enthralling.
I dont think Lt. Gen. Fonseka built the Mechanized Infantry to only crush the bunkers at Muhamalai. It will be also the best element to attack fleeing LTTE cadres.
Mr. Ranil,
just compare the position of LTTE before CFA and after the CFA , how they have improved their military capabilities by acquiring more weapons including air plans and ship loads of weapons and also they got an international recognition for their controlling areas. We lost our entire intelligent group of the SLA during CFA because of RW. You say there were advantages because of CFA, could you please list them.
The best reply about before CF and after CF was given by Gen SF in the ITN interview two days ago. Please watch that video and come back.
Ranil,
All u got to do is name a few benefits that we got from CF. (but not at the expense of national security) & I'll accept them.
but i WILL NOT accept anything that we got compromising national security. remember that LTTE was a banned terror org. & had everything to gain. whereas SL as a sovereign nation had everything to lose. so go ahead & tell me.
I am listening.
b#1 , do you have a link for that SF interview with ITN ?
Kuttu
seems that there is no reason for me to go into detail on something some of you guys seem to have already made up your minds on :)
no harm in that :)
Do remember the little detail that how strong we were when we bounced back post CFA with far better intel, far better targetting, better IC and india support etc etc etc...
@Observer
here you go
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGGy2Qs7YHs
Mr Ranil,
You said there were advantages because of CFA, I have asked him to list them.
see Mr. Ranils reply
seems that there is no reason for me to go into detail on something some of you guys seem to have already made up your minds on :)
no harm in that :)
Do remember the little detail that how strong we were when we bounced back post CFA with far better intel, far better targetting, better IC and india support etc etc etc...
you have not given a clear reply for the question, that means there were no advantages because of CFA. You must accept the truth Mr. Ranil (including RW).
Kuttu
I have given a brief description to you in my last reply to you...
I don't have the time nor the need to explain to you in detail.
If you want to believe we got nothing out CFA and only LTTE got everything feel free to believe that...
Those who are much close to reality and more importantly privy to military info and the likes know better...
You can ask DW team and see since they will be much "trustworthy" for you guys i'm not the type to blindly support GOSL when they are screwing up and that's something you guys seems not to be happy about.
have a good day mate
Guys,
Just i want to express my opinion on MTV and Lasantha incident.
I don't like it at all. Freedom of press and media is not negotiable under any circumstances.
If GOSL has anything to do with above two incident shame on you. My respect for MR, GR and SF will dent here, if they have anything to do with it.
I sicerely hope not.
I will not tolerate voilence against opposition meadia at all.
They are there to check the balance and should be respected by all parties. Extreme racists, patriotic or not, are as same as LTTP.
http://www.lankaweb.com/news/items09/080109-9.html
How the 2002 CFA ‘Helped’ Present Military Victories
Dilrook Kannangara
MR, gota & sarath obviously will want to strike while the iron is hot & remove all potential forces that could potentially create international & local forces to stop or stall military offensives. lasantha is a canadian award winning journalist.(probably LTTE sponsored).
lasantha made too much enemies, created too much trouble & knew too much. could even be a burden on UNP & LTTE even. so who knows? better keep all options open. could be anybody.
Lasantha dead....
LW dead.. (Ada Derana)
Thiru,
I agree with you 100% on the issue of attacks on Media facilities and personalities. I have warned elsewhere that the LTTE is using a 4th level suicide strategy. That is it will assassinate it's own supporters at crucial points in order to discredit the Government and to bring the IC on its side.
It has been noted by others that Tamilnet always places an article about a threat to one of its "supporters" prior to such an assassination occurring.
I have posted before that the Government must protect these guys in order to prevent this type of propaganda war by LTTE.
What is clear is that GSL has nothing to gain in being party to something like this.
post CFA with far better intel, far better targetting, better IC and india support etc etc etc...
There's another side to this coin. Even though it seems apparently we received better support from IC after the CFA, the status quo for terrorist/rebel/resurgent groups changed drastically after 9/11
Post 9/11, Western Nations stopped romanticizing with "rebels" and actively started supporting states that were combating terrorism. Sri Lanka was of course a lucky recpient.
If not for 9/11, no amount of CFA's would have brought us tangible support from IC to this measure.
Even now we see European proxies of LTTE taking some of the gullible white politicians for a jolly good ride in the guise of "peace". If not for LTTE's "terrorist" tag and the stigma of associating with such groups in the post 9/11 world, we would not have had LTTE banned and hunted down across the globe in 30 countries!
All these are arguable of course. Just my 2C that's all.
Wijayapala,
Let me see. Hmmm.
You have been reading all my posts. About physics and maths, Buddhism and History of SL and particularly Tamil identity--- does it add up to Nalin de Silva?
haaaa haaaa Haaaa.
Well done. You have passed by taking that bait.
BTW,
I am still waiting for a reply to my question on your Tamil-language proficiency.
(heh heh heh)
Rana,
I don't ignore Wijayapala. he is entertaining. I just haven't bothered pursuing the issue of Tamil identity with him because he stopped having an honest debate with me. (I am not going to elaborate- if you are interested then you could huntdown our entire conversation).
Being a buddhist, I do not agree with killing some one..
But, I dont know why, but I am overjoyed to hear that LW is dead at last. We don't need pests like that in our motherland.
Pansilu,
Looking forward to your second installment bro.
You certainly should not leave the blog.
I hope you enjoyed having a joust just as much as I did.
As informative as this blog is, it would get a bit boring without occasional Kavi, baila, dancing, pillow fights and pillow biting (heeee heee).
Mr Dayan,
I like your reply on Lasantha W.
You are a no-nonsense man! We need lots of them in Sri Lanka. I think it was done by LTTE sponsored underworld to discredit the government. MR took over the media ministry recently.
Now they are in fighting.
Mr Anandasangaree has written a letter (to the President I presume) via the Island newspaper:
http://www.island.lk/2009/01/08/opinion1.html
I leave you to your own conclusions.
Psyops come in many forms and many fronts. Please be aware.
Vajira said...
>>>>I dont think Lt. Gen. Fonseka built the Mechanized Infantry to only crush the bunkers at Muhamalai. It will be also the best element to attack fleeing LTTE cadres.>>>>
Very true Bro...
Best is yet to come..
thambapanni said...
"Being a buddhist, I do not agree with killing some one..
But, I dont know why, but I am overjoyed to hear that LW is dead at last. We don't need pests like that in our motherland."
hell, I really admire your honesty & I agree wholeheartedly with u! all the way! well said!
what the heack!
LNP site is down from the morning
Guys, just couldn't help but posting this here, a comment from a panicked dieasspora in Canada, courtesy of Thamizh Canadianzh
"masi from Canada on Jan 07, 2009 17:56:48 GMT
Even though Tamils are more capable and superior in all aspects than Sinhalese Buddhist racist, our weakness is we are easily get tired, give up and losing confident on ourselves even after small setbacks and again jump to the sky when get success. This mentality will not help any race in long run and create negative impact and motivate enemy. Also how many Tamils are dedicated towards our freedom other than people in the war front. We always praise ourselves for having more educated and more talented people in all areas. Where are these people and what is their contribution towards our freedom struggle. Yes, of course they worried about the possible revenge on their relatives back in Tamil Homeland. But as far as I know there are lots of talented and educated individuals have no relatives left behind in Tamil Homeland. Why these people can't spent their spare time towards winning our freedom. Please think about suffering of your own Tamils and help them. Remember, we ran back to our Tamil Homeland after every planned genocide on us in the past. If we do not protect our Tamil Homeland there will not be any place to run and get refuge."
when kadir was murdered...diasspora and ltte supporters were overjoyed that finally the "traitor" who went against their wishes was gunned down.
Most sinhalese and every sri lankan mourned him...
we bashed all those ltte supporters when they tried to justify the murder of their no.1 traitor, Kadir.
And tables have turned now...
Some are overjoyed that the traitor lasantha is no more...
after all, it's because of him that we couldn't acheive our military objectives faster... And he is a class A traitor...
Now that's he's murdered, everything will be all right... War will be fought better and LTTE will be defeated much better...
Little wonder why Sri Lanka has been bleeding for decades
according to many patriots
the CEASE FIRE =
army ceasing fire & LTTE doing all the firing getting rid of LRRP & army intelligence.
Swami said...
[Sometimes I am really proud to be an Indian, there is a lot for other countries to learn from us. It is one place where anyone from any language or religion has means to live respectfully and peacefully.]
As a Sinhala Buddhist from Sri Lanka I love India as the AryaBhumi from which our culture, language and religion springs. We Sri Lankans have looked towards India as our comrade in arms in the struggle for freedom from colonial bondage. We revere the Gautama Buddha, the greatest son of India; we honour DharmaAsoka, the dharmishta ruler of all India for his friendship and his gift of Buddhism to us; we are grateful to Mahatma Gandhi, for his inspiring example of nonviolence and leadership in the common struggle for independence of both India and Sri Lanka.
That is why, when Indira Gandhi, and Rajiv Gandhi her son, trained, equipped and funded terrorism in our motherland, to initiate and grow a conflict that has now consumed the lives of 100,000 of our citizens, and impoverished our people over the last 30 years, we were shocked beyond belief that India would do such a thing to us. We have now learned that we must fend for ourselves, because India is driven by its own dynamic of internal politics and Sri Lanka has no control over it. Now, we want to be good neighbors to India, and help protect India's integrity within its current borders, but we know that we cannot rely on India for our security. If you are a patriotic Indian, you are to be commended for being proud of and loving India, and wanting to defend and protect it, just as we love and defend Sri Lanka.
However, I have some real problems with some key aspects of your statement above. In theory, India is a very tolerant and democratic country as declared in its constitution; but the reality in practice is different. I follow events in India very closely, and I know of the discrimination and violence between communities belonging to different castes, religions, races and languages in India.
For example, there are daily battles in India between dalits and higher castes all over India. Brahmins burn themselves in the streets against affirmative action for the dalits. Dalits are killed if they try to use the same resources and public facilities as non-dalits. In return dalits are training guerilla armies in, for example, Bihar to kill Brahmins and gain their own states. India made a terrible mistake in launching affirmative action programs on the basis of Scheduled Castes, Tribal Castes and Other Backward Castes, because instead of helping these folk who are discriminated against, all it did is to pit different castes against each other to gain government benefits. For example, nearly 50% of toilet cleaners in Delhi are Brahmin, just like many Dalits elsewhere. Therefore, it seems that poverty and need is the common denominator on which government assistance should be provided. In Tamil Nadu, dalits were prevented recently from attending universities and colleges, and even the Vanniyar caste, led by Ramadoss, are demanding a separate state. Tamils express a deep animosity towards other Indians of non-Dravidian descent and want to secede from India.
Foreign Christian missionaries are exploiting poverty to convert Hindus, dalits mainly, by entire villages, while Hindus are striking back in retaliation killing Christians and burning churches wholesale. You can see these events on Youtube.com any day of the week. We all know about the the communal killings of Hindus and Moslems related to the Ayodhya site, and the tit-for-tat train killings between these two communities in Gujerat. It was not too long ago that Sikhs were fighting a separatist state named Khalistan; that conflict is still simmering.
In addition,there are 13 major regional separatist groups in India, the principal among them being the Moslems of Jammu & Kasmir, the Assamese, and the Maoist Naxalites. There are, in addition, large numbers of other smaller groups training armed guerillas. A handful of separatist movements were quelled by India, not by negotiation, but by military force.
I can go on and on, reciting all of the terrible events taking place in India today, and the statistics to support them, that completely contradict your assertion that India " is one place where anyone from any language or religion has means to live respectfully and peacefully".
Therefore, I have to assume that, either you are an expatriate who rarely visits India, or comes from a wealthy family in India, and is completely out of touch with the reality of India as experienced by the average Indian. If these separatists are not quelled in short order, and the social inequities among segments of India's communities are not alleviated soon, India will become a land where no one, not even the very wealthy, will be free of violence, pain and suffering. I say this, because in the past many wealthy Sri Lankans also believed that they were immune to the pain of the average citizen due to this terrorist conflict, but during the last 30 years it has grown to engulf the lives of all Sri Lankans, irrespective of their status in society. No one can leave his home in Sri Lanka today, and expect to return home safely with a high degree of certainty. The lives of the rich and the poor, Sinhala, Tamil, Moslem and Burgher alike, has radically changed.
The failure of India to achieve a high literacy, and eliminate caste, sex and religious discrimination as we have done to a very large extent in Sri Lanka in the last 60 years since independence, will create greater problems for India in the future than ours will be when this unhappy Eelam war is ended.
All of these problems only means that Indian society is still work in progress. These problems do not condemn the great majority of well meaning compassionate law-abiding citizens in India, nor does it detract from the great progress being made in technology and economic areas. It only means that there are many outstanding social ills remaining to be solved, more so than in Sri Lanka, in my view.
In conclusion, social inequity, intolerance and discrimination are far greater now in India than they are in Sri Lanka. Therefore, India neither occupies the moral high ground, nor possesses the experience in developing effective solutions, to be able advise Sri Lanka at this point with our social and political problems.
Ranil,
How can we blame LW for holding up the war, please explain?
Mohammed Zubair,
THANKS FOR THE ARTICLE. I ALWAYS KNEW DIASPORA HAD A STREAK OF LUNACY IN THEM. NOW IT'S CONFIRMED.
MZ
i was being sarcastic mate
we can get ready for a rule by the barrel in southern areas too now...
silencing voices that goes against mostly the governments is welcomed with joy by many "patriots"
we can all listen and read into only those reports that sing praise about the government and our mis-leaders...
people like hearing what they want to hear... pathetic aint it
Ananda-USA said:
"nearly 50% of toilet cleaners in Delhi are Brahmin"
Really? Brahmin toilet cleaners? Maybe we should import some Brahmins to clean toilets in Sri Lanka. Their general level of hygiene is better than the sakkiliyas we currently have.
It's so obvious the assasin of Lasantha is not done by the government. Anyone who has a little logical thinking knows government doesn't want to do these kind of desperate things while it's already in the winning stream and already having the support of the majority Sri Lankans.
The poeple who want to divert the attention of the mother Lankas victories are conducting these kind of of killings and the destructions (Sirasa TV). They know all the US, EU and other super powers would condemn these killings. That's why they want to do these and put them in the government account.
I tell you, this will not stop from here. Tomorrow you will find the TNA MPs getting gunned down one by one ....even Mangala's days are numbered.... are these doing by government....? I really don't think so.If you have a brain at least a size of a chick pea, you can imagine.
extreme
good point but wont that be a very good excuse for certain parties within the government to get rid of their enemies also?
for a moment let's leave aside the lasantha killing...
the sirasa attack...
how the hell do you think three vehicles with armed folks...come to the station without getting stopped by a checkpoint...do their number at the station and get back also without being challenged...
if you know the areas you will know how check points operate...
Though lasantha's murder could have been executed by somebody else without the knowledge of the government i really don't think the Sirasa one could have been...
Ranil,
There are traitors in the armed forces and government too.
Lasantha's death;
If GOSL can somehow pin this on LTTE/UNP/UNDERWORLD/RAW..etc, I'm ok.
Remember guys, Pottu Amman (the fake one) is in the South.
guys, go to http://www.dailymirror.lk and participate in the poll. currently, traitors are jumping in that poll.
LW is truely tragic news
But lets not point fingers
Let the police do their work and we're sure to hear about it in due time
Pottu said...
[Really? Brahmin toilet cleaners? ]
Apparently, it is so in Delhi where there are many poor Brhamins doing various other menial jobs as well.
There is a Youtube documentary on the subject of povert cutting across caste-lines in India. I did some research on caste and poverty in India.
Ranil
You have to remember it is the Sirasa TV version that portrayed so far. Too Many gunmen, Bombs etc.
This make sure that you are stating how they can bypass the checkpoints.
Sirasa TV cleverly done away with the security cameras too. You should remember that this Sirasa TV reports for more than week about some attack on their facility.
You guys can blame me for the following comment, but this is my opinion..
If not for Karunas defection, this would have been nearly impossible. With Karuna's defection, 30% of LTTE vanished. SF is trying to counter RW loosers comments that, CFA helped SLA in defeating the LTTE.
SF must keep out of politics. That is not his job.
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Military success not due to Karuna Amman’s defection, says Army Chief
Jan 08 (DM) Army Commander Lieutenant General Sarath Fonseka says it was ‘shameful’ for anyone to try connect Karuna Amman leaving the LTTE with the recent success of the Army on the battlefield against the LTTE.
"how the hell do you think three vehicles with armed folks...come to the station without getting stopped by a checkpoint"
hak hak hak... lols...:p
who told this?????
-Only SIRASA
Who believe this????
- ... :)
Lasantha W Dead,
Isn't it strange that burning of Sirasa and assassination of LW coming in a time of our military victories. The influence of both Sirasa and LW is minimal atthis point. If this has any effect, it is to dampen the momentum of our gains and discredit our forces. As a result, I believe that LTTE is behind this. Didn't somebody say that Pottu is in the south these days? I hope that the police and MI would do their own investigations to uncover who actually did these. Either way, I prefer all the traitors eating crow like Ravi Karunanayake did last week for his mockery in the parliament in Madawachchi-Kilinochchi buffoonery. We need these monkeys in the garbage bins of history, not killed. Getting them live in shame for the rest of their lives is the best form of punishment for their treacherous acts. We have to make sure that they go down in the history book as traitors not heroes.
in the same interview SF said by the time war began Karuna only had 200-300 cadres left because others were wiped out by their infighting during ceasefire.
We should take concerted effort to eliminate this ponnayas and traitors who are trying to discredit government.
Remember this government stand tall against all anti National movements.
After some landmark victories in the battle field some forces vehemently trying to decredit even this victories.
I remember when we liberated east the same forces tried to create a environment where it says east is unstable.
OMG, Berty Anna is gonna miss his Sunday morning cut and paste job from Sunday Leader
Now that is really tragic :(
Pallai captured now What should Tamilnadu do?
Lets hold hands across the streets and play:
kiri kiri boley
rali rali marley
:)
Peelam?
get over it
sooner you do happier you'll be
Can these Singala brain washed who keep dancing at present, stick to the subject of defence?
Think why we took the arms into our hands in first place, how can we come to politics while operate ban on us?
What should LTTPussies do when all their women cadres die?
men should run because they'll have nobody protecting them :D
Nisal,
dailymirror.lk want to show only what they need to post. No space for us.
You had your chance to play politics and ceasefires!
Times up biatch
get it? got it? good
B#1 that is the point man. People forget that all the story about Gunmen, White Van portrayed in the media by Sirasa itself.
Sirasa took so much time to make this lie a truth. But truth is truth. We should expose the Maharaja. Sirasa did not find any other witness too.
Even fleeing vehicles were not seen by anybody
It is such a tragedy even a life lost. Loss of lasantha is not good at the moment. But we have to see the things in consequences.
Kili
EPS
Muhamale
Pallai
Sirasa
Lasantha
Who is the beneficiary
i want to see a small opinion poll on the death of Lasantha W
a simple one, are you happy that he was assasinated? Yes/No?
i'll start,
[No]
silentknight said...
"i want to see a small opinion poll on the death of Lasantha W
a simple one, are you happy that he was assasinated? Yes/No?
i'll start,"
I am neither happy nor unhappy about hid death. However, I am not happy that we couldn't let him live in shame for his treacherous acts.
ANNEEEE PAW
PAWANDA
PAWANDAAAA
MY BELOVED LASANTHA WICKRAMATUNGA GOES TO HELL.
OH MY MONEY!!!!
WE HAD SPENT MILLIONS OUT OF POCKET FROM DIASSPOORA LADIES VESA MONEY FOR THIS GUY.
ANE PAW.... PAWANDAAAAA
Murasumoddai falls, unstoppable SLA war machine grinding it's way east of paranthan along A35
http://www.army.lk/morenews.php?id=19303
Here kitty kitty kitty
Here is an example of the unsolvable communal conflicts that are created when communal criteria are adopted by a government as an acceptable basis for governing a country and administering justice.
[Land acquisition for Dalit Christians quashed
Express News Service, 08 Jan 2009
CHENNAI: Acquisition of land under the Tamil Nadu Adi Dravidar Welfare Scheme Act 31 of 1978, for distribution to Christian Adi Dravidars was not valid, the Madras High Court ruled on Wednesday.
Justice K Chandru, who gave the ruling while passing orders on a writ petition from M Gopal Gounder (deceased) and others challenging the acquisition of their land in Thamanur village in Gingee taluk, however, said that it was open to the authorities concerned whether to acquire the land under the Central Act 1 of 1894.
The petitioners contended that under the TN Act 31 of 1978, land could be acquired only for Harijan welfare schemes. Conceding the contention, the judge observed that the TN Act 31 of 1978 was intended to acquire land only for Harijan welfare schemes. The Christian Adi Dravidars stood excluded from the list of castes contained in the Presidential notification, the judge pointed out and set aside the acquisition proceedings.]
Blast in Kili,
Army officer Down.
Any News?
VERY HAPPY
OTHERWISE WE TIGERS HAVE TO SPENT MILLIONS FOR THIS LASANTHA. WE ARE AT LOOSING AND VANISHING SIDE. SO WHY ARE WE SPEND MORE TO THESE MOLES AGAIN AND AGAIN.
FOR SINGALA HE IS A CONSPIRATOR
BUT FOR ME NAKED PIRBHA HE IS A HERO HERO LIKE NEWSPAPER CHANDIYA NO 1.
Hanas,
As we know Sisra is very quick & clever to report everything with visuals where ever it is. But one security person speak to media told that attackers were inside the premises for about 30 minits and destroy all.
Sirasa failed to get any details of attackers. but when Mervin attack SLRC they were the first to record it.
Dumb and Dumber movie remake:
LTTPussies and Tamil diaspora
hehee
PUNDEY EELAM,
Blast in Kili,
Army officer Down.
Any News?
LOOK LIKE YOU GET MORE RELEVANT INFO. WHY DONT YOU START YOUR OWN BLOG LIKE MAHEN. WHAT HAPPEN TO YOUR ELECTRCUTION?.
Am I happy for Lasantha death?
No. We should have kept these generals of pussycats as symbols for ppl to rally against. I am against a sudden elimination of Pussycats all together [if possible].
At least for next five years these forces should remain [and gradually diminish] such that we will become a stronger nation. Right now our gains and improvements are not at all stable. They depend on few ppl.
Ppl like Lasantha have been instrumental in [unintentionally] initiating a hatred against Ranil camp in ordinary ppl.
WHAT HAPPEN TO YOUR ELECTRCUTION?.
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What are you talking about. it was not me.
Realy there was a blast in kili(A presure mine), 3 injured. I dont want to start a blog like Fucking mahen. I am not a peelamist.
PundeyEelam,
From where do you get this info? Nevertheless, I expect lots of blasts in Kili, heck it is a war front. Please provide us some verified information.
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