Thursday, October 23, 2008

Time is right for Bhanu to defect and save lives

The recent battlefield success of the Sri Lankan Security Forces has dramatically changed the ground realities and dynamics of the Sri Lankan conflict. The Tamil Tigers have been dislodged from areas they dominated militarily for many years in the North and East of the island.

According to latest reports the Security Forces are less than 2km south of Kilinochchi, which is considered by the Tamil Tigers as the de-facto capital. The fall of Kilinochchi will have symbolic value to the Sri Lankan government. However, in terms of strategic value the Paranthan junction 5km north of Kilinochchi will be the jewel in the crown.

The fall of Paranthan junction will cut supply routes to Tamil Tiger defence localities in Poonaryn, Elephant Pass and Muhamalai.

The success story of the Sri Lankan Security Forces has been built upon the combination of six critical events coming together at the right time over the last twelve to eighteen months.

a) For the first time in the history of the Sri Lankan conflict, the Sri Lanka Navy embarked on deep sea missions pursuing Tamil Tiger merchant vessels in international waters. The success of the Navy in completely destroying nine merchant vessels of the Tigers between March to October 2007, is in my opinion the single most significant factor that changed the tables on the Tigers. The supply chain capability of the Tamil Tigers was completely destroyed crippling the induction of weapons and supplies. Many have argued that the tide changed for the Tigers with defection of the Eastern Commander Karuna Amman. While this paved the way for improved intelligence on Tamil Tiger procurement and logistics operations, the destruction of the nine merchant vessels by the Navy is by far the crucial game changer.

b) The defection of Karuna Amman as the Eastern Commander and disbanding of young combatants in the east set the stage for the complete eviction of the Tigers from the Eastern Province. The expulsion of the Tigers from the East has prevented the Tigers from opening up a new theatre to thin out the Sri Lankan Security Forces engaged in the North. The inability of the Tamil Tigers to open up several fronts has greatly assisted the Security Forces to concentrate on the Northern battle ground.

c) In the recent fighting the Sri Lankan Security Forces favoured a strategy of capturing coastline on the North Western and Eastern coast. This strategy of progressing along the coast had a twofold impact on the Tigers, firstly it constrained the supply channels especially regular inflows from India, and secondly the Sea Tigers became redundant due to the lack of operating space. Furthermore the Tigers had always expected the Security Forces to advance along the A9 highway (MSR) and much of the Tiger defences were constructed at Omanthai and surrounding areas along the A9 highway. The Tigers had not anticipated a coastline assault.

d) In May 2008, the Tamil Tigers suffered a significant blow to the command structure. The Overall Commander of ground operations Balraj died due to illness. Balraj was the senior most military commander within the Tigers with overall command over all infantry units. His demise created a major vacuum in terms of military planning for the Tigers.

e) Over the last twelve months the international network of the Tamil Tigers has been significantly disrupted in five key fundraising countries. In the United States, FBI operations busted two procurement cells and also arrested the head of Tamil Tiger fundraising in New York. The US Treasury also clamped down on fundraising activities of the TRO. In France the arrest of 17 Tamil Tiger operatives completely unraveled the fundraising and fund transfer operations in France. The arrest of head of Tamil Tigers activities in the UK and two others has curbed overt fundraising activity. The death of a key activist and three arrests in Melbourne and Sydney has disrupted the Australian operation. The banning of the Tamil Tigers and the WTM in Canada has disrupted fundraising operations in Toronto. The authorities in Switzerland and Denmark are also pursuing investigations on Tamil Tiger activities at present.

In addition to the setbacks to fundraising activities, the Tamil Tiger propaganda machine also faced major problems in Europe. The Tiger satellite TV channels were shut down in France and uplink facilities for satellite broadcast were terminated in Italy, Serbia and Israel. The Tamil Tiger satellite TV channels are facing stringent scrutiny of content by Telecom regulators in Europe.

f) with regard to the international community, there is a sense of “LTTE fatigue” globally. The argument is that the Tamil Tigers had a run for two decades without achieving much for the Tamil people. Leader of the Tamil Tigers Velupillai Prabakaran will remain intransigent to any alternative other than a separate State, therefore the current situation may open up opportunities for moderate Tamil opinion to be heard and have a place at the table.

Furthermore, the international community has also been otherwise engaged over the past twelve months with a devastating cyclone in Burma, earthquake in China, elections in Zimbabwe, elections in Pakistan, Georgian conflict, an assertive Russia, nuclear aspirant Iran, Iraq/Afghanistan, US presidential elections and the financial meltdown in US/Europe for little Sri Lanka to get much attention.

The combination of these six factors coming together at the same time has had a devastating blow to the Tamil Tigers. This together with the re-energized Sri Lankan Security Forces have steadily advanced into Tiger dominated areas. The new offensive divisions and special forces created by the SL Army have demonstrated superior ground tactics in the current fighting. The fall of Naddankandal and Illuppaikkadavai is testimony to innovative ground tactics adopted by the Security Forces that baffled Tiger defences.

It is unlikely that the Tigers will be able to mount any major reversal to the offensive operations of the Security Forces. At present the Tigers have hedged all bets on Tamil Nadu Chief Minister Karunanidhi in India to save them from the Security Forces onslaught.

Recently politicians of the Tamil National Alliance (TNA) a proxy of the Tigers agreed to the annexation of Kachchetivu island by India, which is comical given the Tigers are fighting to establish a separate State of their own. The Tigers are counting on Karunanidhi to flex political muscle with the central government in India for Indian intervention to save them from collapse.

If the Sri Lankan Security Forces are able to reach Paranthan junction within the next 3-4 weeks, the senior leadership of the Tigers will need to re-assess their own future and that of the young combatants.

The Security Forces presence in Paranthan junction will also increase the vulnerability of Prabakaran. It is suspected that the primary hideout from which Prabakaran operates is approximately 10 km east of Paranthan, interior from the Paranthan – Mullaitivu Road. In the past DPU teams have not been able to access these areas north-east of Kilinochchi and also had limited human intelligence from such high security zones. With the displacement of combatants and civilians into these areas there will be better human intelligence on such localities and provide cover for DPU teams to operate.

The Tamil Tiger military hierarchy consists of five senior commanders namely Pottu Amman (intelligence), Soosai (Sea Tigers), Bhanu (Overall Ground Ops), Jeyam (Western theatre) and Theepan (Northern theatre). In addition, the Political unit, Finance unit, KP department and the International Secretariat provide supporting roles.

In a “Post-Paranthan Scenario” (PPS) the options for the Tigers are limited, they can continue fighting with the loss of lives, or transition to a political entity. Both Prabakaran and Pottu Amman are political liabilities given the indictments by the Indian courts for the assassination of Prime Minister Rajiv Gandhi. Sea Tiger head Soosai cannot gain the confidence of infantry combatants. Theepan lacks a charismatic personality and not popular within the group. Jeyam is originally from the reconnaissance units and not from infantry. He is also the junior most member of the inner circle. Some have suggested that Charles Anthony the eldest son of Prabakran is being groomed to take over the leadership, unfortunately age and maturity are not in his favour.

The only plausible option to save the lives of young combatants is for Bhanu the overall military commander of ground units to defect and disband all units under his command. This will provide an opportunity for options other than Prabakaran’s separate State to have a real chance at a political process.

Bhanu is well regarded within the organization as the artillery expert who inflicted the highest number of casualties among the Security Forces over the years. At present he is placed in the right position and commands the confidence of the rank and file to take a decisive decision and prevent further bloodshed to his people and have a real chance at peace.

The Tamil diaspora has been informed in advance of the heroes day theme this year, the theme is expected to be “our land may be taken but our aspiration cannot be defeated”. The international secretariat of the Tigers has sent out instructions to country representatives to organize the largest ever gathering of Tamil people in each country on 27 November to astound Western media and politicians. The theme indicates the Tigers have shifted from a real territorial model as seen in past heroes day speeches which used terms such as defend, attack and de-facto administration to accepting a virtual reality model.

Submitted to DefenceWire by Shanaka Jayasekara
Associate Lecturer, Centre for Policing, Intelligence and Counter Terrorism (PICT),
Macquarie University, Sydney, Australia


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TropicalStorm said...

Facts, guys facts.

Rhetoric is ok, but keep it thin and within limits, otherwise all meaning is lost. At least the arguments should be interesting enough and not plain pre-menstrual bitching.

SLA is behind schedule and that's gonna cost lives. The LTTE may have had grand plans, but Vaiko fucked them up by shooting his mouth. The damage from the secessionist blurt is a sword thru the Indians and a reminder of Rajiv Gandhi's killing.
SLG needs to exploit media connections with South India to remind the TN nattamis abt the thousands of indian jawans who were killed and maimed by the LTTE, for tactical advantage. we are behind in this area. We don't need TN on our side, simply making it difficult for the nattami circus is good enough. Make the average TN road side shitter think twice, about who their enemy really is, and that should damoralize them enough. We only need short term gains, while the long term issues are India's problems. It is also noce to see the indian chapaththis sweating it out, not knowing which way to look.

The game is not too complex right now, nothing like what ol' JRJ had to deal with, and managed to get Rajiv killed, LTTE to fight the Indians etc.

Just when I was starting to think that all sport was going to be over soon...

Bhairav said...

[He himself is inconsistent though-- one day predicting annihilation, another day stalemate?]

STD,

It's also depends on the market news as many known business analysts just speculate on the news whether it's going to be recession or oil stands, loonie etc. JBSJ is no exception, and he depends on the week before stats. Now he sees the TN rise for his stalemate i guess- idiots!

TropicalStorm said...

bhairav

Your uncle and aunt who are peradeniya grads really are sinhalese, to receive a free education. You may not know this, but if they were'nt, we would not have let them in.

And by the way, the 'sinhala' army is somewhere around Galle, beaten completly by the super fine eelam army. Everything the media says are lies.

TropicalStorm said...

A depressed SL ruppee will bring back the manufacturing and exports advantage to SL, particularly at a time the west is struggling and everyone is looking for cheaper sources.

One of the biggest handicaps to domestic industrial development currently is teh exorbitatnt real estate prices. Opening up secondary areas is going to be a priority and setting up high quality schools and hospitals in peripheral and satellite cities will make a population shift, modulating real estate values.

There's plenty of things in the pipeline, Sri Lankans should not worry too much about what happens after the war is over.

Bhairav said...

[Your uncle and aunt who are peradeniya grads really are sinhalese, to receive a free education. You may not know this, but if they were'nt, we would not have let them in.]

TS,

My uncle and aunty at least wanted to go back even though there are many disadvantage for being Tamils in Colombo unlike you Sinhala grads who once jump off the boat never wanted to go back.


--cheers---

Anonymous said...

Panhainda

//There is nothing political about this offensive.//

I didn't mean offensive is under political influence. What I meant was public in SL think K'chi is THE victory. Or SLA is jsut about to take K'chi. This has made some people dissapointed as SLA is taking time. Now it was SLFP politicos who 'sold' K'chi in last election campaign.

I don't say SLFP politicos not to sell the war. But they should not give troble to SLA. They better 'sell' east, madu, mallavi, thunukkai etc which SLA already captured. They should not say "api heta anidda kilinochchi allanava..pata chande deepalla." Say "api ----- alluva, apata chande deepalla".

මොරටු සමන් - MoratuSaman said...

Haa..ha..Diaspora...brothers...don't worry, SLA is doing just fine...fine...

"Nothing can stop our march into Kilinochchi" -Soldiers at battlefield. Watch

I hope you guys understand Sinhalam..Theriyada?

Ippathan Conjanconjan...Theriyama..

Rana said...

Bhairav and Peter,

I thought, I have tied down you dogs to the lamp post while I had a quite nap.

Wjayapala, couple of good posts, I always read your logical answers supported by facts mate.

How come your rational thinking is completely different to the above two dogs.

Rana said...

Bhairav,

You stay where you are, do not ever come to SL. Enjoy your toilet cleaning and garbage disposal while fighting with keyboards.

if you ever come to Coombo, we will get you, that is a promise.

Mahason Balakaya is waiting for tamil diaspora members.

Lankapura said...

I agree with Wijayapala on the Premadasa issue. Yes, supporting LTTE to get rid of IPKF back-fired, but the alternative would have been much worse.

We should even thank LTTE for getting rid of IPKF. Without them we would have a puppet provincial government in the North-East province which is just a proxy for the Indian government. India would have permanent bases in Sri Lanka and control Trinco port and Jaffna airport.

Rana said...

Ninja Machan,

Kili, Kili and Kili for last, how many weeks? I think this purely propaganda and political scoring game is diverting our minds from most important goal which is to eliminate as many as possible tigers while keeping our losses to a minimum.

In reality, it does not matter from where we progress as long as we kill all tigers and shrink the F***ing illegal defacto state.

The talk of taking Kili within few weeks, created lot of extenal interference to our boys including suppression of ariel attacks.

Rana said...

Further,

Our prime target should be to clear west of A9 completely including Pooaryn. If that is achieved then Jaffna is secured. Next interim target is to clear Parathan and EP as 53 and 55 can come down. Then we should relocate 58 (TF1) to locations east to A9 beside 59 to attack Nedunkeni towards Oddusudan.

If we can achieve that, I don't mind, even stopping the war due to external pressure because then LTTE do not have any bargaining power on the possible negotiations.

Rana said...

defence column,

excellent job keep it up mate. very useful liks and no words will do the thanks for you brother.

That is all for today, I am going to have nice warm sheeet over my body for next 6-8 hours, good night for all!

Vigilante said...

Offensive flanks move towards Iranamadu; Heavy fighting in Kilinochchi
Heavy fighting at Akkarayankulma and Iranamadu areas were reported between troops and LTTE since yesterday (Oct 24) morning, according to Wanni military sources.

Troops of the 57 Division operating east and west of the Akkarayankulama Tank bund, Kilinochchi, made further strides into LTTE positions inflicting heavy damages to LTTE, the sources said. According to military, two separate confrontations were reported in general area Akkarayankulama, while sporadic fighting were also reported northeast of the same area.

Meanwhile, troops of the 57 Division flanking the eastern Kilinochchi battlefront and moving towards Iranamadu area met with stiff LTTE resistance at around 7.30p.m., reportedly claiming heavy LTTE casualties. Troops engaged artillery and heavy mortar fire neutralizing the LTTE resistance after hours of fighting with LTTE, sources said. During subsequent search operations conducted, troops have also recovered a T-56 assault riffle, 01x light machine gun and an I-com set, military sources further added.

Similarly, fighting between troops and LTTE were reported in general areas at Kalmadu and Kokavil, while military claimed to have destroyed an LTTE bunker overhead at Kalmadu, in a swift raid conducted at 10.45a.m.

Vigilante said...

Defencewire,


Some TIGER DIEHARDS are claiming that over 100 SLA died in fighting yesterday..


Is this figure acurate?

Keep us in the loop..

Thanks...

Peter said...

Stop asking stupid questions.

SLA don't die. Even DefenceLK has deemed it unnecessary to give numbers.

+ DW's bunker is probably flooded. May be water got into his lap-top or his sat is having trouble connecting to net from Akkaraiyankulam.

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Jambudipa said...

rana,

/*
I would say again (Itold it many times before)forget about Kili, clear west of A9 first. If we have Poonarin then attack Paranthan, secure EP and Bring down 53 and 55 to surround Kili.
*/

This was an idea floated by someone else here as well. Skirting Kili and capturing Paranthan probably means less casualties. Kili can be slowly isolated and weakened with attrition as in Nachikuda. But I heard somewhere they have built another trench north of Kili just before Paranthan. If we skirt Kilinochi without clearing Kilinochi, the risk is we have to dig in for a 2-3 weeks trying to break into Paranthan while troops are exposed for attacks from the uncleared East facing Kilinochi.

Capturing Kilinochi with a full frontal assault has symbolic value which could make a big impact on their morale possibly ending this sooner. This is why I prefer this option.

Either way, the west is gained. Its good to know all the options in any case. Only those with uptodate ground intelligence would be in a position to make decisions.

Unknown said...

Well Panhinda

Lets put it this way, well Kili and then Parathan is the way they want us to go, full frontal attack, higher casualties to the SLA, and the more time will be consumed, draging the war, giving time for the LTTE to exsert via proxies further preasure on the international community, but if TF1 is able to hit Parathan, EP is captured and then Kili.Also remembering the fact that EP is strategically important to the LTTE, they are banking a hell of allot on us hitting them there, but if we strike at EP shortly, they will have to withdraw from Kili strategically to safe guard EP, but if we cut them out they are check mated, surrounded Kili, unable to protect EP, all the gains made in the past washed off.

BUNDLEDEALS said...

instead of intervening in lanka india mite have to intervene in their own state :o...mite end up turning into extremism..more like rowdism..though the later latter already exists..

Saman said...

Rana, History,

Why we call Premasiri Khemadas. Sounding like a dravidian name to me. Are we already in the Ealam.

His correct name is Premasiri Khemadasa. Sounding more like a Sinha-Le name.

Great man would be very upset to hear his name as Khemdas.

LKDOOD said...

LTTE claims Lanka army attack killed civilians in Kilinochchi

LINK

LKDOOD said...

'Kashmir resolution will help solve Palestine, Lankan conflicts'

LINK

Saman said...

U.S. Ambassador to Sri Lanka Robert Blake's article on the Hindu is worth analysing.

http://www.hindu.com/2008/10/25/stories/2008102556341200.htm

To me something very funny is on the cards.

LKDOOD said...

Tamil Nadu film directors remanded to judicial custody

LINK

Jambudipa said...

Hello Gareth,

I get a feeling there wont be any immediate international pressures until May next year. We have around 6 months possibly more notwithstaning economic situation to deal with this. There is really no obstacle for us other than facing LTTE military challenge. Therefore I don't think pressure from TN should be in the equation when deciding future offensives.

Towns along A9 - Mankulam, Kilinochi and less so EP hold the most important strategically since they sit at important intersections. You made a good observation with EP. We effectively cut them off reinforcing Muhmalai if TF1 can put Parantan under siege.

Whether TF1 can focus on Paranthan however depends on the situation in Nachikuda and more so Poonaryn. If they have vacated Poonaryn then TF1 can bank to the East unless 57 stay put until Poonaryn is taken.

LKDOOD said...

Karunanidhi condemns attack on Rajiv statue

LINK

LKDOOD said...

India must stop military assistance to Lanka demands Communist Party of India

LINK

Unknown said...

TF1 has to take out Pooneryn before Parathan, as there are a few howitzers in those locations as we know, I believe 130mm howitzers hat Parathan,I dont know how they will transport those out, I highly doubt that Pooneryn is vacated, as I have a feeling the same units leavin Nachchikuda via sea are moving to Pooneryn, its very hard to pass for the sea tigers via Pooneryn to the east through point Pedro, one with the Navy carrying out consistent patroling aswell as the indian Navy Patrols which work on a consistent basis.

Poneryn will be one heavy battle for TF1 to take out, it will require the air force to start pounding points as of now,once this starts the automatic withdrawal of some of charles Anthonies units from Kili will be observed back to EP, which has some 150mm Howitzers, which also are quite hard to move about. thats the way to go as they have built earth walls and trenches expecting us to come straight through kili.With regard to the A9, well its what the LTTE is guardiing the most, even if they loose Kili town, that road they will not give up.

Unknown said...

Your Last Post Lk Dood

The Communist party wants the indian fisherman to be able to fish in international waters between India and Sri Lanka, but also states that the supply of the weapons "can" be used in the current battle, how dum can this communist party get, as well as the Tamil community will misunderstand, looks like VP's paying some one else..

The Indians wont do the stupid thing, they know if they stop supplying, Pakistan,China and recently Russia will fully oblige in supplying them.

wijayapala said...

Ninja,

"I don't think LTTE will send all their fighters one by one until the last one to defend K'chi."

My point was that it doesn't really matter whether the grand battle will be in Kilinochchi or the Mullaitivu jungles (although it would be better for the LTTE to send all their fighters to defend Kilinochchi).

"1. Slow down SLA progress to K'chi by trenches etc. Then expect Indian influence via TN and go for CFA. Then LTTE get into usual cycle."

I would argue that a CFA at this point, when the LTTE is weak (unlike 2002), may be disastrous for the LTTE. It will not be able to hold the people in the Mullaitivu jungles in the absence of fighting. The way I see it, the LTTE is in a lose-lose situation (which is why I refer to Petey & Co. as "losers").

LKDOOD said...

India-Lanka discussions on situation in island nation tomorrow

LINK

wijayapala said...

Bhairav,

"We may lose it now, but not for too long."

You were talking about 700-year cycles. If you believe that Tamil Eelam will be achieved in 700 years, that is ok by me since neither you or I will be alive to see it.

However we will be alive to see the LTTE collapse and watch nitwits like Petey run around like headless chickens (I already established that his head is sharing Thalaivar's Fat Ass with Shyam's and Thiru's).

TropicalStorm said...

Wijaypala

Elam will never happen, and that's been cast in concrete now, with the TNadu nattami circus going ballistic. The more heat it generates in TN, the better it becomes, since India is now being pushed decisively from a passive stance into a more active stance viz-a-viz T'nadu.

SLG must continue the thrust even if it precipitates an Indian intervention, which the Indians very well know will fail and cost them dearly. Conversely, SL can evaluate a joint strike to take Valu and pottu out, after which we can work with Indians in a ground holding pattern to stabilize the area, while the SL Special Forces mop up the remnants and finish the dirty part of the war. India will have a feather in their cap, which they've lacked for a very long time.

History said...

If you live in an environment like this

X
X *
X

That will ended up converting to this

X
X X
X

X - Majority of the country
* - Minority of the country

That is the game of life. Any day anywhere that is what the nature does.. But in Sri Lanka, we protected you tamils, so managed to survive, but now you are working hard to pay us off, great..

But look around my fellow tamil die ass poras. Do you see your newly born children working toward your goals..? They will soon be converted to American, Canadian or Autralian you name them, you goals will soon be forgotten. You will not be here (may be in the hell or heaven) to realized that your hard earned money is waisted for nothing..

Bhairav,

If you are willing to wait for 700 years, that is too long, even 10 years is too long given the phase that the world moves today..

History said...

DC,

/*
Pls participate in this vote and express your opinion
Should the Sri Lankan Government disclose military casualty figures?
*/

You need to give another options,

Yes
No
I does not matter
I don't know

It may be too late to do the change..

TropicalStorm said...

Gareth

It is important that we NEVER restrict ourselves into any self inclficted trade restrictions with the Indians. That is a form of neo-Colonialism, which will yield only bad things.

Of course it is something we can deal with easily, if and when it happens.

TropicalStorm said...

bhairav

There will never be a unique racist seperate state in SL, purely for the reason that the SL tamils never were accomodating people. In Wellawatte they are nice, but once you pass Vavunia, they turn into different animals. I've experienced this firsthand. Similarly, the divisions among Tamils are too great, and easy to stir-up by someone else conveniently.
Thirdly, the numbers are way below where they can recover to pose a significant threat anytime soon. Time and perspectives of future generations will be different, more global and will transcend the tribal mentality. Good for them, for they will learn to be inclusive people who will be successful global citizens.

Like the southern chauvanists predicted, this is the last of a tamil struggle. They'd like to see it continue for another 20yrs, to let tamil drive themselves to the point of total self-annihilation. Once the numbers are down to anywhere between 0.5 to 0.33 of the Indian tamil population, the game will be over, permanently.

It may be hard for you to see this, but the average Sinhalese does not welcome that situation either. But they've gradually become insensitive to that becoming an eventual outcome. that's what Velu and the LTTE achieved; a lot of cemetaries, a deceased, blood stained culture and a hardwired self-destructive path for a whole generation.

The Sri Lankan tamils of today are close on the heels of the Palestinians, and will find it very hard, or even impossible to pull back from the edge of the cliff.

What I find hard to accept is that the average Sri Lankan has now become ok with that eventuality.

GoldenEagle said...
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Kithul said...

TS
you are beside yourself today,

way to go man

GoldenEagle said...

tropicalstorm

You are right, demographically speaking the LTTE have screwed the Tamil population's future by putting children, women in the battlefields. 20+ years to putting themselves of into battle will cause the decline in the SL Tamil population. Its not just women and children, but the young men also bore the brunt of this war. I have read reports that talk about the big shortage of men in Wanni, many women are finding it hard to find husbands.

In 20/20 hindsight, the LTTE would not have survived in the 1990's without employing women and children in the battlefields.

As cruel as the southern chauvanists are, we have to admit they are very clever with good foresight.

GoldenEagle said...

Saman

"After all India is not a bad country mate. That country have people with strong values and principles (in some cases better than our folk)."
-----------------------------------

Saman, I hope you are kidding. India may have strong values and principles....

But they are backward values and principles. Lanka should not even entertain the thought of looking upto those backward caste-cased, racist, valuing virginity, colonial mentality(colorism) fueled values.

This is one of the reasons why I favor limiting the number of Indian movies Lankans get to watch. Those movies are so horrible with 80% of them having sad endings, hilariously crappy fight scenes and non-sensible story lines. The singing is unbearable too.

Lanka is regarded as the most culturally advanced country in South Asia, by the rest of the world. We don't want to track backward culturally by overdosing from Indian movies.

We as a country are seperate from India and its values. We must chart our own destiny as a country.

Bhairav said...

[Like the southern chauvanists predicted, this is the last of a tamil struggle. They'd like to see it continue for another 20yrs, to let tamil drive themselves to the point of total self-annihilation. Once the numbers are down to anywhere between 0.5 to 0.33 of the Indian tamil population, the game will be over, permanently.]

TS,

Yes, friend, you are right when you made 2M+ Tamils to run away from SL, you can talk about the numbers now. How hilarious it is, you can easily blame on VP for everything. Either way I live for another 30 or 40 years i'm not sure about but if current government fail to solve the Tamils' grievances, you guys will regret it later on - it's not that you have to wait for another 700 years, it's down there in 3 or 4 decades.

Bhairav said...

Global Tamils need one strong charismatic Tamil leader as VP in TN, then South Asian map will be redrawn. What you face against VP now will be nothing compared to what you will face in 3 or 4 decades time if you do not solve Tamil issues now.

Asithri said...

About the decions from MOD to not issue ANY casualty figures (i.e. from both sides)...

Patriots,

Did I not say in this blog recently that when I talked to "Colombo" about the impending "harvest" of maggots remaining/trapped in Nachhikuda, "Colombo" told me that already the decision was made to NOT publish the harvested figures given the current uproar in TamilNadu?

Well, since then, it appears the policy decision has go a step further - meaning that there is not going to be ANY casualty figures and I am told the underlying reason remains the same.

So, in this climate of silence from our MOD, you can bet your bottom dollar that the LTTE MFs will take advantage and come up with wild SLA casualty figures - so be forewarned!


OaO Asithri

Asithri said...

As for this decision by MOD….

Although I am the one who is 200% in support of even publishing the dead LTTE maggots' pics, I tend to agree with the MOD's decision as it may have some toning-down effect on the heightened passions on the average person in TamilNadu (who are the ones being goaded and hoodwinked by TN politicians to take to the streets).

It appears this is also the "best advice" given to our GOSL by the powers-that-be "Hindians" in New Delhi (who are trying their best to keep the TN monkeys from running all over and ruining the banana plantation! LMSSAO!) for the welfare of their own political survival).

Yesterday I talked to a “well-connected” Indian here about this and all what he told me was "you guys have nothing to worry about...we will do it our way" with a mischievous wink!

OaO Asithri

Bhairav said...

[Yesterday I talked to a “well-connected” Indian here about this and all what he told me was "you guys have nothing to worry about...we will do it our way" with a mischievous wink!]

Ado Assithiri,

Is that your TMVP Tamil lady friend/fuk friend told you?

Instead of referring to some unknown hierarchy folks to feed the patriots bandwagon, why can't you go to Pettah and sell coconuts, which needed badly for lankan microeconomic perspective?

Asithri said...

Raves

[Global Tamils need one strong charismatic Tamil leader as VP in TN]

LMSSAO!!!

The grade 5 dropout who has been successful in leading the once proud and well-achieving 2Million Tamil population in Sri Lanka down to around 800,000 today through mass exoduses and death AND with over 200,000 of that figure living in squalid conditions in refugee camps, is “one strong charismatic Tamil leader” uh?

Moron, go see a psychiatrist…you badly need it!

LMSSSAO!!!

OaO Asithri

Asithri said...

Ado Raves-about-nothing

[Is that your TMVP Tamil lady friend/fuk friend told you? ]

Don't be jealous...if you mother had even taken a bath every few weeks, I would have taken her instead...imagine that...this young, virile, hot-blooded Ruhuney Chingalaya going AC/DC on your momma...?

Shucks, I know luck is not with us all these days equally...

:(( :(( :((

OaO Asithri

History said...

I live away from Sri Lanka and will be back in Sri Lanka by the end of this year, today I just had some time to watch all major TV channels in Sri Lanka..

I think this is the right time for MR to declare a STATE OF WAR in this country.. We are having 60 km long human chains in TN where as here in sri lanka we have ...... I am really unhappy..

Asithri said...

One in a way must give these STATELESS RACIST REFUGEES a margin when considering their moronic and demented comments...

Imagine wondering this planet like the worst of the nomads...no homeland...no country...no sense of belonging to any established entity on this planet...???

Truly sad!

:(( :(( :((

OaO Asithri

Bhairav said...

[where as here in sri lanka we have ...... I am really unhappy..]

history,

Are they showing porno flick of Assithiri and his TMVP friend in those channels?

Asithri said...

Excuse the typo…in the above post it should be “imaging wandering this planet” although one can argue that “wondering” too might be apt in this case as many of these STATELESS RACIST REFUGEES were only used to having a crap under a Palmyrah tree and I am sure they wondered what a real toilet was when they first saw one…perhaps that’s why many are cleaning them in the West today…simply could not detach oneself once "wonder" set in!

LMSSAO!!!

OaO Asithri

History said...

B hira vechcha Bhairavayoo,

Nope! I didn't see..

But I saw one, whcih was showing Indian police arresting two Tamil politicians for speaking publicly in support of the LTTE.

Another was showing how Indian government annihilate Tamils in TN, don't you ever felt that you are not part of India.. Don't you feel that average Indian never liked you, they hate Tamils.. don't you know that.. I mean seriously.. so the best thing to do is use this movement and try to break a part of India.. That will be easy than fighting with us who once controlled the whole world..

Asithri said...

Raves-about-nothing

Why cranky today? Welfare cheque did not come in or did your latest credit/debit card skimming op fail?

LMSSAO!!!

Asithri said...

[Don't you feel that average Indian never liked you, they hate Tamils.. don't you know that.. I mean seriously..]

Yep, TN is the ONLY state in India that does not have Hindi as language to be learned as part of the education curricula...

All other states saw the merit of learning Hindi to assimilate with "one India" and joining in the march forward for all Indians' prosperity - but not the racist gooks in TN. This is why many of my Hindian friends call these buggers "monkey people" with utter disdain!

Sounds familiar...yes, this is exactly what happened in SL too...the Tamil racist gooks there too had a problem in learning Sinhela, the language of the majority, to assimilate and march forward as "one Sri Lanka" for all Sri Lankans' prosperity.

:(( :(( :((


OaO Asithri

Asithri said...

OK the fat mule dressed in red & yelllow is here...time to go make a porno flick.

Catch you patriots l8r...

OaO Asithri

hemantha said...

58 division is going to get artillery support from Jaffna.

click here.

History said...

hemantha seems to be from UK but that link is not working

hemantha said...

History,
Sorry. Let's try this one.

click here.

Infinity said...


Defence Column, Sunday Observer

Several captured locations are mentioned. Is Kunchikulam=Kunchukkulam? as seen in this map.

Sam Perera said...

hemantha,

Can you please remove your first reference to youtube?

Sam Perera said...
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Sam Perera said...

hemantha,

How are the structures in disorder? You know what I mean.

Rana said...

Saman,

Sorry bro, just a typo.

Sam Perera said...

This is from the anti-Sri Lankan Iqbal Athas of ST.

"Mr. Prabhakaran is quoted as saying that the troops re-capture of Kilinochchi is a "day dream of President Rajapaksa." However, the President made clear on Friday to Opposition UNP leader Ranil Wickremesinghe that troops would soon regain control of Kilinochchi. He was quite confident it was only a matter of time."

You little nitwit Athas, I wouldn't call you Mr. since you call Velupillai Prabakaran also Mister. You may have some respect for this low life scumbag, but I don't. Therefore, you who try to glorify this national cancer will be called appropriately. As I told you the other day, you are always taking the opportunity to demoralize the Sri Lankan public. Keep in mind that you have a very special place in Sri Lankan history, i.e. the unmarked graves reserved for faceless anti-Sri Lankan agents. Please act knowing where you will end up.

Infinity said...

Defence Column, The Nation
http://www.nation.lk/2008/10/26/militarym.htm

Rana said...

Sam P,

I have read this before, and this first press relaese made by vesapille to TN papers.

I think Atha is refering to this press release, if he is not refering to anything he is copying VP is statement.

We cannot expect any thing more than that from the vesapille and Atha, can we?

Rana said...

Guys,

It seems teritory progress is slow on all fronts but killing rate seems to be high.

We don't have to worry!

"OHOMA YAN" + "OHOMA YAN"

wijayapala said...

Tropicalstorm,

A lot of what you wrote made sense, but some did not.

"In Wellawatte they are nice, but once you pass Vavunia, they turn into different animals."

Not my experience. The Tamils in the N-E I ran across were decent simple folk who wanted peace, and they harbored no hatred towards Sinhalese (even though many of them had told me horror stories about their experiences with the military and the STF in previous years).

In fact I would say that on the basis of my experience, peace will come to SL much sooner after the LTTE is destroyed. The average SL Tamil is not a bloodthirsty warmonger.

"Similarly, the divisions among Tamils are too great, and easy to stir-up by someone else conveniently."

It is true that the Tamils are divided, but they come together when they are threatened by Sinhala racists. That is why a slap against the racists is a slap against Eelam.

"The Sri Lankan tamils of today are close on the heels of the Palestinians, and will find it very hard, or even impossible to pull back from the edge of the cliff."

The SL Tamils are in a worse position than the Palestinians. The US, Israel's closest ally has openly endorsed a 2-state solution for the Middle East. Thanks to Thalaivar's strategic thinking, there is no country great or small that will recognize a separate Tamil Eelam.

"It may be hard for you to see this, but the average Sinhalese does not welcome that situation either. But they've gradually become insensitive to that becoming an eventual outcome. that's what Velu and the LTTE achieved; a lot of cemetaries, a deceased, blood stained culture and a hardwired self-destructive path for a whole generation."

I totally agree with the above, that is why I hope for a quick end to the LTTE before more Tamils get brutalized or killed.

wijayapala said...

Goldeneagle

"But they are backward values and principles. Lanka should not even entertain the thought of looking upto those backward caste-cased, racist, valuing virginity, colonial mentality(colorism) fueled values."

No comprendo amigo.

1) Our caste problems aren't as bad as the Indians, but we still have them as you can tell by the marriage proposals in the newspaper.

2) As for racism, the Indians have been much better at resolving their communal problems than we have. It is common to find Indians, particularly in the south who can speak more than 2 languages, much unlike Sri Lanka.

3) What is wrong with valuing virginity?????

4) Sri Lankans have a far greater "colonial mentality" than the Indians. Whereas the Indians have strived to be self-sufficient and produce their own things, we have to show off the latest imported goods like vehicles. The Indians do not have a "brown sahib" NGO circuit like we have in Colombo.

wijayapala said...

Bhairav,

"i'm not sure about but if current government fail to solve the Tamils' grievances, you guys will regret it later on - it's not that you have to wait for another 700 years, it's down there in 3 or 4 decades."

I think you missed TS's point- if this war continues for 3 or 4 more decades, there won't be any Tamils left in SL to have any kind of grievances.

"Is that your TMVP Tamil lady friend/fuk friend told you?"

Do you really get off on the idea of a Sinhala guy having a female Tamil "fuk friend????"

Rana said...

Hi Guys,

Any sensible person whether tamil, Sinhala or any other should agree that as long as VP is the head of LTTE and as long as Pottu is carrying out his suicide operations to kill innocent people, tamils will not get a proper solution to their greivances.

As the article correctly suggests VP and Pottu are political liability to the tamil cause, if there is any.

We will not compromise with VP and Pottu. Tamils need alternative leadership to go forward from here.

US diplomat Blake connot understand this and lecture tamils for political solutions.

As long as VP is their only leader, they will suffer.

Rana said...

Wijayapala,

I don't think tamils have 3 or 4 decades, Irrespective to the out come of present war, this problem must be solved within next 05 years, for tamils to have some sort of relief.

Look, at the moment defacto state has around 300000 - 350000 people only, all others are in the south of SL or south India.

At going rate how long do you think above figure last. can you think about a 5th eelam war, highly unlikely.

double said...

I read situation reports in many news papers. In these reports, names of the high ranking officers who plan and execute the operations are mentioned. In my opinion, readers don’t really need to know the names of these officers, but may be some events in the battle field to glorify the SL defence persons. Because our objective is to get the job done, commend all the people contributed it on due time. Disclosing names of these officers, in my view not only endanger their lives but also be come an obstacle for career change (both locally and internationally), in the future.

Hope this has been well taken care of by ministry of defence and other responsible parties. May be NOT….

Sam Perera said...

Another great indication of India's direction. Indians got to be happy about the way President Rajapakse putting his effort to eliminate a future threat to India. Where are those die-hard LTTE terrorist today?

Sam Perera said...

Defencewire,

I hope that you are aware that LTTE is using chemical weapons every day now against Sri Lankan forces. I am curious to know the ways we can respond this kind of attacks. Other than protecting our soldiers with gas masks, is there any other alternative to counter them. Now that it LTTE has used chemical weapons so many times, can we use some more devastating weapons.

On the side, I am very interested in knowing the position of Terrorist Rights Watch, AI, and other miscellaneous terrorist supporters about the LTTE's use of chemical weapons. I further like to hear from Mr. Robert "wanna be viceroy" Blake and other garden variety of western diplomatic sages who want to give their two cents while bringing condition on us to even to engage in trading.

History said...

Can one of my fellow tamil diaspora tell wheather Anton Balasingham really holds a PhD?

I am trying to find this for quite a some time, but still no clue..

Anonymous said...

Ok Enough of this

Let me tell something to the Eelamists who do not know some facts,Bharav or whoever,do you remember sometime back I asked who was realistically at the driving seat of the LTTE? let me tell the reason why the 1999 LTTE and 2008 difference.

Since of late the LTTE leader Veluillai Prabhakaran has been suffering serious health issues, taking into consderation he actually has been fighting for 30 years now, he is old and unfit to make any military desicion.

Do you know this fact, the top 4 in the LTTE rank do not,I reeat, do not stall in one position, they move around accross multiple safe houses and at a time the only people in the LTTE who knows where one of the 4 are, its only the top 4 who know where the other 3's position is, then tell me, how did the air force find out Thamil Chelvams position with pin point presicion, unless one of the top 4 gave the others position.

I have read in many of your Kraut blogs of how Thamilchelvam, Pottu, Charles Anthony were the people who would one day relace Vp, sad thing is already within the top 4 there is a battle, one is already down, you know Pottu wasnt supposed to even attend the funeral of Thamil Chelvam as Thamil Chelvams cadres knew Pottu had given his position, but VP or one of his doubles attended so the confrontation couldnt happen openly.
Pottu ofcourse attended in a way to clear his name, but the pots still boling, during this battle maybe the other someone else may go down, its a matter of time.

Thats why today the LTTE iis weak, VP is just the LTTE's leadership figure, but his hands are tied behind his back, its the others making the desicion..check it out your leaders are planning to leave the North, its clear as a glass now to you I hope.

Rana said...

Defence Column,

Your link to the Nation article is worth praising you again, brother.

Thanks, it is indeed a good article some what better than what DW manages these days!

Rana said...

OK enough of this...

Punisher you sounded like on to something real. I think it is just your imagination. If you have proof or a source you should indicate.

LTTE is that weak, they are fightng with higher numbers with superior weapons and Ariel attackes. Howmany fronts? they are looking after 07 fronts. After initial progress SLDF is only inching now. How can you say they are weak. It is only Gen.SF said they are weak.

I think gen.SF both estimates cadre strength 4000 and LTTE considerably weakened are wrong.

Still, ther is no worry b'cause we are gaining on them.

GoldenEagle said...

Wijaypala

1) Yes, but its importance declining fast. India still has violent caste clashes in villages.

2) Keep in mind who armed and gave training to the LTTE, thus unleashing war on the island. They also have numerous armed struggles happening in parts of their country.

3) Unneccessary pressure and superficial. Not fully compatible with human nature and modern lifestyles.

4) Yes they produce more things than us because their economy is growing fast plus they don't have an economy-hampering war to deal with. Besides its not like their rich don't show off their newly acquired BMWs. Atleast we don't have desperate people shitting on the pavements publicly in main roads.

Moshe Dyan said...

sinhalese need NOT learn tamil. instead they should learn ENGLISH ,HINDI & CHINESE.

learning hindi will open a whole new world for them and hindi is the EASIEST language for a sinhalese to learn.

i haven't learnt hindi but i can understand very well when they talk slowly.

english is the language to deal with tamil nadu not tamil. english is very widely spoken in tamil nadu. even tamil nadu guys are slowly dropping tamil in schools, business places, etc.

tamil nadu has 95% of tamils in the region and there is NO REASON why they should not be our business partners. politics is a different ball game. this way we can screw tamil tigers and team up with their REAL bosses.

needless to say the importance of chinese. i am learning it.

Anonymous said...

The Source

I cannot mention, it isnt my immagination, but other than my source, I want you to check the Krauts bloggs on the death of Thamil Chelvam, this is indicated there.

With regard to the numbers, I remind you that the LTTE is holding to 200+k civilians, who at any time they can push to the front line with a AK47 and that could see the number increase, there strong carder units today they say are untouched, but then when you look at the attack on the Ruhuna and Nimalawa sea tiger leaders were being used, not an ordinary sea tiger or black tiger, question is why, why are leaders of Ratha being killed after infiltrating and not the so called efficient cadres,it is very clear, either the leadership is dispensible or they are just mock leaders.

Bhairav said...

[Do you really get off on the idea of a Sinhala guy having a female Tamil "fuk friend????"]

Wijayapala,

I care less whether that stupid fuk, Assithiri, sleep with TMVP lady or MR's wife.

What's the problem for a Sinhala guy dating the Tamil woman? If you do not have luck with women, that does not mean everyone falls in your category.


--cheers---

Kithul said...

punisher

krauts bloggs?

link pl

Sri Lankikaya said...

bhairav

that's a good one from you

if you don't have luck with women you can date a tamil woman...

did you notice your cock is screqing your own arse...or it that so many cocks are up your arse all the time there's no diference

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Moshe Dyan said...

fiona KUMARI campbell is doing a great job in her blog for our little community.

for those interested,

http://jews-in-sri-lanka.blogspot.com/2006/06/jews-of-old-ceylon_17.html

Bhairav said...

[Besides its not like their rich don't show off their newly acquired BMWs. Atleast we don't have desperate people shitting on the pavements publicly in main roads.]

GE,

I agree with you in some areas. Mukesh Ambani who was the richest person in the world a year back when his shares were went up in Mumbai stock exchange, abuses his wealth for his lavish lifestyle by building the mansions, owning number of jets, and eating in gold plates while one third of the fellow country men/women are below the poverty line, so does the Luxumi Mittal, it's good to see his wealth wiped out by the current financial crisis.

Yes they produce more things than us because their economy is growing fast plus they don't have an economy-hampering war to deal with.

I totally disagree with you here. The rising middle class families are the evidence for any country where it stands, India is right there and is slowly coming to age. I work for a $100B+/ a year revenue company which has one fourth of workforce from India, without this Indian workforce my company won't survive in the good times or bad times. You cannot even compare SL with one of their states now. The successive governments in SL failed to draft a good economical policy which was one of the reasons along with civil war SL is way behind from other countries. Srima did good by restricting the import stuff to encourage the self-sufficient economy but it failed since we used to live in handouts.

Bhairav said...

Wijayapala,

1) Our caste problems aren't as bad as the Indians, but we still have them as you can tell by the marriage proposals in the newspaper.

agree!

2) As for racism, the Indians have been much better at resolving their communal problems than we have. It is common to find Indians, particularly in the south who can speak more than 2 languages, much unlike Sri Lanka.

disagree here! They are sitting on a time bomb which may blow up in 10 or 20 years down the stretch.

3) What is wrong with valuing virginity?????
If you want to value the woman's virginity, the guy also has to be virgin. No double standards here!

4) Sri Lankans have a far greater "colonial mentality" than the Indians. Whereas the Indians have strived to be self-sufficient and produce their own things, we have to show off the latest imported goods like vehicles. The Indians do not have a "brown sahib" NGO circuit like we have in Colombo.

Totally agree here!

mboi said...

bhanu has minor injuries due to artillery fire from 57 division troops

Rana said...

Guys,

See any one can answer this:

Tamilnet is glroyfying LTTE actions and distort the truth, that we know for sure by now.

However, do you think defence.lk is 100% accurate? You give me the answer, I have my own opinion.

All gosl web sites are on sort of news blackout!

Why defence.lk suppresing news now? it is not only casualty figures, but they are suppressing many more things, Why?

Somebody might say, it is for your own good! As Jack Nicholson (Col. Nathan ***.. in FEW GOOD MEN) said "you can't handle the truth".

If somebody suppressing truth, it cannot be a strategy, only it can be propaganda or hiding.

What is it? you answer.

Unknown said...

The Punisher!

Your Analysis are great. where do you get all these inside info?

Kithul said...

Rana

why can it not be strategy or even policy, you have to first justify that

Rana said...

shan mate,

If it is a strategy then MOD is scared of something ot at least worried. Either way it all sums up to same thing, they are hiding somethng from us and that is not good!

I am going to sleep now, iam sure, it will not be a good sleep, bye, bye!!!!

Moshe Dyan said...

defence column,

like your new layout.

keep posting.

Sun Tzu's disciple said...

VP has said capturing Kili is MR's dream.
Now Kili is within sight of the advancing SLA, and appear doomed. At the same time VP is usually not known to sound-off like his southern counterparts. What goes?

If you keep in mind the cadres going back to East inspite of war, VP may have some confidence in what he is saying?
While many ' patriots ' are jumping with glee here re the Tamilnadu political ' fiasco ' I think a great damage has been done already:
I am pretty sure the law enforcement there is not unaffected, as well as the drying-up of tip-offs as well as an increase in supplies to Wanni, consequent to the emotionally charged up situation there. This will not affect the SLA, but it will affect the LTTE for the better( morale&material support).

Anonymous said...

Well

These are some of the links,read carefully.

http://www.asiantribune.com/index.php?q=node/8106
http://llibertarian.blogspot.com/2007/11/terrorist-pussy-roasted.html
http://peacelanka.blogspot.com/2007_11_01_archive.html
http://www.slcricket.com/index.php?topic=15854.msg262891
http://www.topix.com/forum/world/sri-lanka/T7CO4NOGIC0LUCDV0
http://www.asiantribune.com/index.php?q=node/9019
http://intellibriefs.blogspot.com/2007/11/slaf-zeroing-in-on-prabhakaran.html

Well to answer the question on Krauts, Krauts was a slang word used for Nazi fascists during WWII,I find that the LTTE too is in a way a fascist organization, by conducting genocides of Muslims in the North, of the Sinhalese, and like the Nazis trying to grab another mans land, shown also through the trying to invade maldives in the search of creating a land of there own.

Lanka Putra said...

Although security forces are surrounding Wanni from all the land areas, Mulavtivu sea is still with the tigers. I have the feeling that the final plan of LTTE is to start sending boatloads of civilians to India. If Sri Lankan refugees started arriving in Tamilnadu, the Indian government will have to intervene to stop it. Now that the Tamilnadu agitations are going in disarray, tigers should be banking on this as the final option to pressure India. I hope our military planners have thought about this possibility.

TigerKiller said...

TSD

VP has said capturing Kili is MR's dream.
Now Kili is within sight of the advancing SLA, and appear doomed. At the same time VP is usually not known to sound-off like his southern counterparts. What goes?

`You or VP talking nothing new . This is the exact behavior of a terrorist .

When He Strong He shows you him as Weak.
When He is Weak He shows him as Strong .

So it seems now He is really weak . :):):)

TigerKiller said...

Rana

If somebody suppressing truth, it cannot be a strategy, only it can be propaganda or hiding.

You can't reveal 100's of LTTE is dying since TN factor .

Tou can't reveal 100'S of SLA is dying since South factor .

so keep the mouth shut and get the job done . as expected losses are high for both sides .

but no body is willing to hear those

Sun Tzu's disciple said...

tigerkiller,

VP has asked for UN/IC/Indian intervention/ceasefire also many times.
So by your logic he must be REALLY strong right??

History said...

Rana,

/*
If somebody suppressing truth, it cannot be a strategy, only it can be propaganda or hiding.
*/

When a war is started, it is said that the first casuality is the TRUTH...

History said...

Moshe Dyan,

/*
fiona KUMARI campbell is doing a great job in her blog for our little community.
*/

Interesting to know.. in fact this is the first time I am hearing this.. good that you pointed to that link..

History said...

The Punisher,...

I am not denying your facts..


/*
Since of late the LTTE leader Veluillai Prabhakaran has been suffering serious health issues, taking into consderation he actually has been fighting for 30 years now, he is old and unfit to make any military desicion.
*/

When a man is very old, then you may say that he can’t physically engage with combatants, but may get better at making military decisions. So I don’t agree with you here..

/*
Do you know this fact, the top 4 in the LTTE rank do not,I reeat, do not stall in one position, they move around accross multiple safe houses and at a time the only people in the LTTE who knows where one of the 4 are, its only the top 4 who know where the other 3's position is, then tell me, how did the air force find out Thamil Chelvams position with pin point presicion, unless one of the top 4 gave the others position.
*/

I think you are right here, in fact if you assume that our intelligent units revealed Thamil Chelvam/ whereabouts by themselves, then we would see a continuation. If our intelligent unit is strong enough to penetrate through LTTE’s top level secrets then it is fair to assume that finding and killing people like Bhanu or other secondary level leaders has to be real easy. But we don’t see that happening, it was just Thamil Chelvam only, thereafter we didn’t see such accurate attacks. I am not claimed that this alone is enough to conclude that you are right, but these little little things make your claim the best available conclusion..

Sri Lankikaya said...

STD

what the f**k are you talking man.

can't you fucking understand that VP is asking for intervention because he is weak. how the hell are you trying to portray him as strong.

regarding the cadres going to east, that is not in numbers, only a very few who are trying to upset the peace there just like they send cadres to colombo. that is part of the plot not because he has extra cadres.

if you rememebr what sadaam said in iraq and about the mother of all battles, it's all fucking 'big talk'.

did your mother tell you her husband and the one who screwed her during day time were the same. to one she was the wife and to the other the keep.

MR is a democraticaly elected president of a sovereign state and the VP you rae trying to glorify is a terrorist wanted by several countries and runs an organisation categorised by many countries in the world as a terrorist organisation and banned. DO NOT TRY TO DRAW A PARALLEL AMONG THE TWO. It's the sky and the water

Anonymous said...

Well History

VP's conditions do not permit him to either make desicions in battle,I want you to look carefully look at the recent attacks conducted by the LTTE on the army, and think of who has participated in a major part of them. The Suiside units that come under the inteligence wing, commanded by....fill in the blanks.

Sun Tzu's disciple said...

kithul,

I will give you a reply once you wipe the dribble from your face and get sober.
Meanwhile you can go through my posts again.

Sun Tzu's disciple said...
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Sri Lankikaya said...

STD

that's a poor way of side stepping

Sun Tzu's disciple said...

Kithul,
better to side-step rabid beings; thats wisdom borne of experience.A lesser intellect may call it cowardice.

Anonymous said...

So Son of Chu

Why are u here?

Sun Tzu's disciple said...

why are you here? is that a question LOL!

Sun Tzu's disciple said...

wow , what a ' reputation ' LOL!

You can act all you can kid, behind your keyboard;)

Mohammed Zubair said...

Sexually Transmitted Disease?

I suppose my yellow friend, that the females of your race cannot be distinguished from the males either?

Sun Tzu's disciple said...

Oh, another psycho Sinhala-in-Muslim garb has barged in!

Anonymous said...

I know more than your mama does about this war, so don't get me wrong son, your pot's about to blow, and about my reputation I have knocked out 5 of you already!

wijayapala said...

Sam,

"Now that it LTTE has used chemical weapons so many times, can we use some more devastating weapons."

The LTTE is using tear gas against the SLA- the same agent which riot police use against mobs. The US military had sporadically used tear gas in the Vietnam War.

Unknown said...

Phew, what a superior complexity for a stinking nila messa!
Not to mention racially discriminating remarks..

wijayapala said...

Punisher

"I have read in many of your Kraut blogs of how Thamilchelvam, Pottu, Charles Anthony were the people who would one day relace Vp"

The LTTE does not have a set succession in place; there has been no "Deputy Thalaivar" since Mahattaya's arrest and execution in 1993. Thalaivar has things set up so that the senior leaders distrust each other and cannot conspire against him.

Pottu's name comes up because he is the most powerful person in the organization, but everyone hates him and it would be very likely that the LTTE would shatter if Pottu became the new Thalaivar.

Thamilchelvan on the other hand never had a chance to become Thalaivar. People got the impression that he was a big shot because he met with foreign dignitaries and said a mouthful on Tamilnet. The truth is that he was a nobody.

"Krauts was a slang word used for Nazi fascists during WWII,I find that the LTTE too is in a way a fascist organization,"

Actually "Kraut" was an ethnic slur against Germans (from the food sauerkraut), not the Nazis per se. It was also used in WWI, but not as much.

"and like the Nazis trying to grab another mans land, shown also through the trying to invade maldives in the search of creating a land of there own."

It was not the LTTE which tried to seize the Maldives but PLOTE.

wijayapala said...

Goldeneagle

"2) Keep in mind who armed and gave training to the LTTE, thus unleashing war on the island. They also have numerous armed struggles happening in parts of their country."

But none of these armed struggles have any hope of succeeding- partially due to the overwhelming strength of the Indian army, but also due to the Indians' use of bargaining and diplomacy which has minimized bloodshed. It is in this latter sense where we are weak.

"4) Yes they produce more things than us because their economy is growing fast plus they don't have an economy-hampering war to deal with."

The Indians don't have an economy-hampering war becuase they never let things get out of control, unlike us.

"Besides its not like their rich don't show off their newly acquired BMWs."

The Indian rich in India do not show off in BMWs (Indians in US & UK are a different story). They drive in sh!tty Indian-made Ambassador cars and ride the 2nd-class carriages in trains.

They do show off though by buying expensive jewelry and sarees for their wives.

"Atleast we don't have desperate people shitting on the pavements publicly in main roads."

India has greater wealth than us and greater poverty at the same time. The point is that its poverty is not getting in its way of becoming a major player. The Americans signed a nuclear deal with these street-sh!tters and urine-drinkers but they don't want to get close to the most civilized and cultured people in the region (us).

wijayapala said...

Lanka Putra,

"I have the feeling that the final plan of LTTE is to start sending boatloads of civilians to India."

This won't happen for two reasons:

1) SLA controls most of the coast nearest to India. LTTE controls the Mullaitivu coast which is relatively far from India and won't work as a refugee exit hub.

2) LTTE does NOT want its areas to become depopulated with civilians fleeing to India because it needs the human shields.

Sun Tzu's disciple said...

WP,

appreciate ur patience. You're almost like a Kindergarten teacher--down to the occasional spanking;))

wijayapala said...

"sinhalese need NOT learn tamil. instead they should learn ENGLISH ,HINDI & CHINESE."

More mush from the Mushe. There are very important reasons for Sinhalese to learn the Tamil language that definitely negate any benefits of learning Hindi:

Even if the LTTE is crushed, there will be terrorists operating both in the South as well as trying to reestablish an infrastructure in Tamil Nadu. DW himself has said that we cannot rely on paramilitaries to interact with the Tamils on either side of the Palk Strait- we need Sinhalese who can do the job themselves. This is so obvious that only a total moron would miss it.

Children in Israel are highly encouraged to learn Arab, the language of the enemy. Even the real Moshe Dayan (not the poseur here in DW) was known for his ability to communicate with his Palestinian foes. Why is this???? Do the Israelis have some kind of inferiority complex?? Or do they have the brains to understand that this sort of knowledge is essential to discern a potential enemy's intentions and plans????

What Mushe said about Hindi, Tamil, and English is all in reverse. You don't have to learn Hindi to do business in N. India because the important players speak English. Only the illiterate masses can only speak Hindi. Tamil Nadu is very different with local politicians and industrialists often conversant in only Tamil (the Indian Tamils have been better at making their language the language of the elite than the N. Indians).

Sinhala diplomats who can speak Tamil will show the world that the SInhalese are not anti-Tamil racists, as well as influence opinion in Tamil Nadu. Sinhala civil servants who can speak Tamil can work with the people in recently-taken areas to rebuild and guide sympathies away from the LTTE. Sinhala security officials who can understand Tamil will be able to anticipate the enemy's actions and stop terrorism.

DW has clearly shown that the most dangerous LTTE commanders and operatives are the ones who are fluent in Sinhala, not the dumbasses like Thalaivar who only know Tamil.

History said...

The Punisher,

/*
VP's conditions do not permit him to either make desicions in battle,
*/

You mean to say that VP is taking his last breath on a bed?? or other three secondary level leaders have taken over VP?? I don't think either of the two are accurate..

Just because Black Tigers are used to attack our ship does not necessarily mean that it was a potta's decision..

I am not in agreement with you here..

It is clear that VP is taking all the high level decisions, I mean I can see his strategy.. as an example if you take the situation around killi, now LTTE has marked all the trees, rocks and other locations around killi to accurately position their artilleries to attack SLA. That is why Army cannot make a move to break in (It may be a part of the bigger plan of SF too. He may wants to drive LTTE to focus more on Killi so that SLA can attack other areas much easily).. In this case positioning the artillery may have done by Bhanu but that decision to withdraw to Killi and defend killi, and attack ships, attach JP would have taken under the influence of VP himself.. because they very well linked with each other.. So someone who has control over every division is managing the war for LTTE. To me it is very obvious..

Anonymous said...

Well then Wijayapala

If there is no Thaleiwar, and the most powerfull man is Pottu, what will the outcome be.

Well look at ground realities, he was in Tamil Nadu for treatment, although he has his specialists in the den..
He is unnable to lead.

Let me put into contrast something else, the LTTE is known to be the most cash rich terrorist organisation, if I were the Inteligence head and had strict regulations, I would know contact persons names, bank accounts and locations and where abouts of all the available funds, with word out in Tamil Nadu for leaders trying to escape, I would be watchfull.

History said...

The Punisher,

Additionally, if you think about Potta he is not a favorite among carders nor among civilians.. Potta attack, Tamils who go against LTTE, he stand very touch even for very small things.. Once his riffle shooters attacked a innocent civilian who was selling king coconut in killi town.. They did it openly during a day time.. Some of his decisions are unbelievably cruel.. so no way.. potta will never take the leader role for LTTE. People hate him and also afraid him.. From the other hand VP is rated way above any other leader, to me LTTE does not have a deputy.. That is why I once said that, with the advantage of monsoon rains, if we can do a check mate.. we are 50% over with beating LTTE..

Sun Tzu's disciple said...

News is out that Basil R has agreed to let INDIAN medical personnel into the warzone!
The Indian Deefence minister is quoted as telling Karunadhi that Tamilnadu can send aid to north SL.

If true it can have security implications for both sides I think.SLA cannot bombard at random and LTTE cannot dragoon the public-- because the Indians are sure to post their intelligence personnel under different guises. But it sounds too dramatic to be true.

History said...

Sun Tzu's disciple,

if the news is correct, it has disadvantages to both side.. but given that BR agreed to this.. knowing his diplomatic capabilities.. I hope it favors SLA.. We have to wait and see

Unknown said...

Students forced to participate in human chain???

here.......

Anonymous said...

Ok History & Wijayapala

You have not answered the ?, if VP goes down during the war, like Thamil Chelvam where his position is given, who will take leadership, to me its the strongest!dont u think so, they may not like him, but the strongest buffalo has the say as they say.

Think about it,Thamil Chelvam s gone, Prabhakaran when he goes(as you beleive he is still leading), Charles Anthony also may have problems as of course the large bull will oppose calling it a family thing, Soosai is not that famous after an incident that happened where he was almost killed, who am I left with.

Ofcourse we know once he takes leadership, allot of things will happen to the LTTE, where parties dislicking him will be shot dead and rule brought within the ranks through violonce.

Well PLOTE and LTTE, both stand for the beleif of EELAM, they all want that one thing.

hemantha said...

I think Basil has done his job.
BBC is trying to do the same as Sun tzu's disciple does here (bad to learn that he is a racist pig too). I.e. painting a different picture. Folks let's read the actual statements.

India-Sri Lanka joint press releae
click here.

INDIA-SRI LANKA JOINT STATEMENT ON FISHING ARRANGEMENTS

click here.

hemantha said...

According to 'The Hindu' 'Karunanidhi assures he won't precipitate crisis for UPA govt'.

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Anonymous said...

Hemantha

Thanks for the link.

Never forget BBC is pro-LTTE and others quote them. See the difference.

Original version;

//As a gesture of goodwill, India has decided to send around 800 tonnes of relief material to Sri Lanka for the affected civilians in the North. The Government of Sri Lanka will facilitate the delivery.//

BBC version with lunu dehi;

India to send supplies to Vanni

India has informed a senior envoy of Sri Lankan president that it will send 800 tonnes of relief to war affected Tamil civilians in the north of the country.

India shown displeasure - TNA

TNA leader says the Indian humanitarian aid is not enough
India has shown displeasure to the Sri Lankan government's treatment of the Tamil population in the north by deciding to send aid, say the Tamil National Alliance (TNA).
TNA leader, R Sampanthan, MP, told BBC Sandeshaya: "If Sri Lanka was fulfilling its duty for Tamil civilians, India does not need to send relief aid to Vanni".

Peter said...

Fireworks in Mandaitheevu tonight.

hemantha said...

7 villages in Kilinochchi captured by SLA during last week. Wanni Operation 26 October 2008

click here.

Rana said...

Hellow Guys,

What happened to DW and its team? Nothing fresh or exciting given for nearly 10 days! May be he cannot open his laptop due to heavy rain or may be MOD pull the curtain on him!

Orbat map is not updated after 13/10, battle progress article (defence.lk) do not tally with other updates!

defencenet also silent and tamilnet as usual. We hear lot of politics SL Vs India and TN that is all.

It is better to do something else these days. I am going to clean my garage and wash vehicles.

hemantha said...

"Incident off Mandaithivu island- MCNS

There are reports of an incident off Mandaithivu island however details are not yet available. Unconfirmed reports said there was a clash between the Navy and sea tigers. MCNS said there was an “incident” and they were awaiting details."

hemantha said...

The above news taken from "Daily Mirror".

Unknown said...

Geez wake up DW

Saman said...

Guys,

Some interesting developments,

1. Political storm cooked in TN seems slowing down. Karunanidi is back peddling and resignation threat is not going to happen by 29th DL.

2. India infomed to TN Politic, India can not and will not call for CF against LTTE.

2. It is reported, Norwagian funds behind TN political storm.

3. DW and Defence.lk muzzled?

4. India agreed to benchmark a power devolution model aligned to 13th ammendment in East. It seems this is what GoSL was advocating for some time.

5. Pilleyan/Karuna friction is boiling under the skin.

hemantha said...

"Now, the LTTE sympathizers and propagandists are trying to liken the Vanni onslaught to the historical battle of Stalingrad. The army, these military pundits claim, has walked into a trap just like the Nazis under the command of Paulus, who suffered an ignominious defeat at the hands of the Red Army led by Zhukov. Those who are peddling this droll theory need some schooling in history. The two battles may look as different as chalk and cheese even to a tenth standard child with a smattering of world history."
Editorial-The Island

click here.

Moshe Dyan said...

sam,

agree with you on the CS gas issue.

using tear gas in warfare is against the conventions of war.

SL must follow suit.

last time when tigers did that we retaliated with fuel bombs. unless we retaliate tigers are going to use it more and more. and they will mix poisonous agents into it having devastating consequences.

we should understand the effect of CS gas in the battlefront. many seem unaware. the effect on soldiers is one thing. the effect on the war effort is another. LTTE cannot face the numerical superiority of SLA. but this sueriority EFFECTIVELY is taken away at certain places when CS gas is used. get it???

this is why we should take the CS gas matter very seriously and counter it. SLA may not use CS gas but they can use agents that can drive the message home.

Moshe Dyan said...

hemantha,

thanks for the links mate.

the island refers to that bloody toilet BRAMAN. i have pointed out his toilet thinking b4.

let him dream about stalingrad when it actually becomes a BERLIN.

hemantha said...

Moshe,
Have you seen Raman's following comment.
"It is surprising that the Sri Lankan authorities, despite their having an inflated Deputy High Commission in Chennai---- which one fears meets the intelligence requirements of Sri Lanka as well as Pakistan---were not aware of the perceptions in Tamil Nadu."

I am wondering what he meant by "--- meets the intelligence requirements of Sri Lanka as well as Pakistan"

Anonymous said...

Sinhala stupidity at its best !!!

Bodu Bala Sena to teach a lesson to Indian imperialists that they would never forget even for another hundred years! click here

1. We need to deal with Indian center 'diplomatically'.
2. This kind of protest in front of Indian high commision, against Indian cenrer is not good.
3. WHoever protest first need to seperate Indian center and TN. Even in TN you need to seperate pro-LTTE elements, anti-LTTE elements, tamil racists and neutral people/ parties.
4. Indian intervention is agains all Sri Lankans. Any protest should be from Sri Lankans; including sinhala, tamil, muslim, buddhist, hindu, cathalic, leftist, capitalist ect all.
5. I highly suspect JHU/JVP was handled by RAW.

Climate has changed from 88 to 08 drastically in India regarding SL. This kind of stupid protests will only help pro-LTTE elements to presarise the center to diviate from Colombo. It is ok to show support for president but we should not critisise Indian center directly.

I saw TMVP held protest against TN. It is said they were under pressure from MR. That's the way to go. MR should use TMVP/EPDP etc to protest against TN. At the same time MR should consider paying some money to JHU/JVP just to stay home and not to protest.

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wijayapala said...

Dear the punisher,

"Ofcourse we know once he takes leadership, allot of things will happen to the LTTE, where parties dislicking him will be shot dead and rule brought within the ranks through violonce."

In other words, total chaos. That is why I think Pottu is the best asset that we have. Pottu is the sort of paranoid freak who would castrate Petey for attempting to stick his head up Pottu's bunghole like he did for Thalaivar.

"Well PLOTE and LTTE, both stand for the beleif of EELAM, they all want that one thing."

PLOTE in the 1980s (when it tried to seize Maldivian islands) actually hoped to link up with Sinhala dissidents to overthrow the govt. and establish a new non-racist regime. However, PLOTE had a bad problem with murdering its own members and acting like criminals. Whatever its shortcomings, it did not have the same goal as the LTTE.

Sun Tzu's disciple said...

WP,

It was not my intention to be demeaning, just to be sarcastic about the vulgarity here.However in retrospect it does carry racial overtones, which was not my intent.I regret the post, and shall pull it.

wijayapala said...

Ninja,

"5. I highly suspect JHU/JVP was handled by RAW."

I hate to say this but the truth is that the JHU/JVP are home-grown morons and RAW has nothing to do with them. Or, another way of looking at JHU/JVP is that they're doing RAW's work without getting paid or coordinated.

I think the average Sri Lankan knows this which is why JHU/JVP will get wiped out at the next election.

Rana said...

Ninjay,

Bodu bala sena or any one else, protest against India is good as long as it is not GOSL. More protest against India in SL and elsewhere reminds India that there is an opposition to interfereing with the republic.

We should show them the strongest way possible sri lankans are opposing indian inerventions while gosl is making diplomatic efforts.

What do you think bro?

thiru said...

Explosions were heard off mandathivu island, details are awaited.

Rana said...

I agree with Ali, What is DW doing? At least he should say, he does not have any thing to say because that it self is a news.

He posted some BS posted by somebody else and keep sleeping for days,while our boys are engaged in heavy fighting.

Stalingrad thing, please do not worry, KILI is not stalingrad, no way near, now only LTTE fighting because their back is on the wall. It is good why with the fall of kili war is over. They all want to die before kili goes down.

I like it, our boys do not have to walk much as they come into the front!

Only problem is lazy DW is warming up his sheets with his wife or mistress!!!

Rana said...

Wijayapala,

Mate, you are wrong on JHU and JVP that is something RAW cannot touch. Take my word for that, JHU and JVP too perfectionists to be controlled by RAW.

I don't think RAW is controlling any sinhala orgs in sri lanka. Sinhalese have built in dislike about RAW for what they did with Indira and Rajive Gandhi ( patta wesi and ekige huththige putha).

Anonymous said...

Wijayapala

It seems JHU is bumber than JVP disproving my earlier guess. Yep, you are right they are probably doing things for RAW free of charge.

Rana

We may need to protest against indian intervention. My point was it was from all sri lankans not from "sinhala buddhists". And even such protest should be civilised and tricky such that it should not distract the center helping GSL.

Anonymous said...

Rana

DW does a free service and they have other things to do for living. Don't complain.

JHU/JVP/RAW

//Mate, you are wrong on JHU and JVP that is something RAW cannot touch. Take my word for that, JHU and JVP too perfectionists to be controlled by RAW.//

You have to be a real victim of emotional talks of JHU/JVP to say this. (How did somawanse left SL?)

Bhairav said...

[It was not my intention to be demeaning, just to be sarcastic about the vulgarity here.However in retrospect it does carry racial overtones, which was not my intent.]

STD,

Whoever said is true that it is hard to distinguish between Sinhala men and women in appearance. If you go to rural areas where Sinhala women wear sarong type cotton cloth to cover the bottom, and top will be covered by blouse. You won't see any curvy appearance on them, more of cylinder standing on vertical position. LOL!

Just like any other community Sinhalese community also has beauties but not many.

Kithul said...

STD

whether you pullback the statement or not you remain a terrorist-in-yellowskin garb, to use the same lingo - whilst accusing others.

There is a big difference in a Sri Lankan Muslim supporting a Sri Lankan Sinhalese on the National issue - BOTH ARE SRI LANKAN AND SUPPORTING EACH OTHER ON A NATIONAL ISSUE. They have a right. There are so many Sri Lankan Tamils supporting Sri Lankan Sinahla brothers and vice versa. I don't see how you can find fault with it.

a YELLOW SKIN supporting an intenationaly banned terrorist organisation is International terrorism, Police in most countries have a duty to arrest people like you and keep you behind bars.

wijayapala said...

Dear Bhairav,

"Just like any other community Sinhalese community also has beauties but not many."

Since Sinhalese and Tamils come from the same blood stock, I will treat the above as saying that Tamils are equally as ugly. ;-)

Kithul said...

Hamenatha

your link shows another aspect, not all areas in Killi ditrict is soggy underfoot some areas are rather dry.

listen to the soldiers - wow the morale . aren't these guys determined.

Rana said...

Ninja bro,

I take your points without agreeing on remarks of JHU and JVP.

How ever these are healthy arguments without animosity to anybody.

Thanks mate.

Moshe Dyan said...

bloodyrav,

but women and men of your race are identifiably different.

while women of your race have scatches, wounds, multiple penetrations and other signs of (IPKF in later days) sexual assault IN THE FRONT, men in your race have those IN THEIR BEHIND!!!!!!!!!!!

a remarkable difference.

Moshe Dyan said...

shan,

you repeatedly asked ppl about how the guys in jaffna would feel when they hear arti sounds of other divisions.

i hear arti support is occassionally provided from across the kilali lagoon to 58. this is one military implication.

GoldenEagle said...

Wijaypala

"But none of these armed struggles have any hope of succeeding- partially due to the overwhelming strength of the Indian army, but also due to the Indians' use of bargaining and diplomacy which has minimized bloodshed. It is in this latter sense where we are weak."
-----------------------------------
Yes the Indian army is strong, but then again India is a big country. Big countries usually have stronger armies than small ones. We on the other hand with our fledgling army had to fight insurgents trained and funded by a country 50 times our size. India has yet to face those kind of odds.

Besides its hard to carry out diplomacy with an insane enemy who is adament about gaining 1/3rd of the country and settleing for nothing less.
-----------------------------------
"The Indian rich in India do not show off in BMWs"
-----------------------------------
Don't be so sure of that.

Kithul said...

Hello Moshe

Moshe Dyan said...

rana & ninja,

re:JVP/JHU

a protest against possible indian interference is good. but that should be AIMED at interfering elements ONLY, not totally against india AT THIS STAGE.

in the long term the sinhala ppl should reach out to their INDO ARYAN relatives in north india as tamils have reached to their south indian relatives.

tamil nadu is not our neighbour, it is india. india will NEVER be ruled by a tamilian either!!!

hopefully JHU/JVP will be more constructive.

NOLTTE=Peace said...

DW,

The time is right for a new article!

Bhairav said...

must see for Tamils

Sam Perera said...

All Patriots,

Please sign this petition against LTTE covert acts to get help from Barak Obama,

Sam

Bhairav said...

[I will treat the above as saying that Tamils are equally as ugly.]

Wijayapala,

Western researches say that if you are happy and financially bit stable, you can upgrade your looks by 40% than poor ones who hardly find time for maintaining their looks. When these Tamil people struggle for daily meals and face security threats, there will be no social development among these folks. If you go to Jaffna in late 80s, you would have seen so many beautiful Tamil women around. When I used to study at JHC in late 80s, I had seen many gorgeous Tamil girls from Veambadi girls college, Chundukuli Girls College, Hindu Ladies college etc. What you see from Tamil women in Jaffna and Wanni is sad looking and depression underlying behind their looks.

Saman said...

Bros rana,vije,ninja

On the matter of JHU/JVP.

1. GoI, apears to have got TN political boil under control. They have also indicated clearly (at least on the media) that they are not asking to stop offensive action against LTTE. I am not sure it is still the time for further Anti-Indian agitation. We must reserve that for later if they put more presure on GoSL for federal solution.

2. One risk, we would be running, if such a mass protest gathers momentum to get out-of control then GoSL will be put in a difficult situation in stabilising the Suthern. Colombo infested with normal Indians origin workers at this stage. RAW would come to party and any Indian instalation or Indian citizens get attacked that would be very dirtimental. No one interested in mother Lanka should go there.

3. JHU is an unknown quantity to me. But do not foget when all the oposition lined up to defeat the budget to put MRs government in disarray at a very critical time JVP used their balance of power very responsibly. If not for that we war against LTTE would have been stoped long time ago. JVP may be playing in to RAW hands, but I do not think they can be bought.

4. I read somewhere that a group called "Mahasona" like black cats during Premadasa era have issued threats for lawers representing interests of Timils arrested under terrprist prevention act. This in my view is a bad omen. Such.. well be RAW's handy work.

5. There are two possibilities interational intervention is possible. 1. Indian citizens or installation are attacked.
2. Deterioration of HR in a lage organised scale. In-fact autor described "mahasona" development as a state sponsored.

There is nothing worst we can do to galent soldires sacrifises than instigating people inproviding above two excuses.

What do you think folks.

Rana said...

Moshe agree on JHU and JVP.

Ninja, DW may doing things for free. He volantered to start it and now 25 to 40 regular visitors are there and he has a responsibility to perform!

We also visit to this site regularly each and every day, so we also have a right to demand.

We also do lot of other things for living but still spend 2-3 hours here, why?

Rana said...

Saman,

1. Protesting is not attacking somebody physically or vandalising Indian business assets.

2. protesting numbers show that people are against some thing.

3. India has already interfered with our internal conflict, which was started and fuelled by India.

4. If they have a problem in TN, centre should deal with the cause, not with us.

5. We ahve a say "Duwanta duwanta gahana ekath modaya" and "Gahanta gahanta duwana ekath modaya".

Think about it, doing something moderately is not bad. Every action should have some short of reaction.

That is why I am poking DW also wake him up!

Anonymous said...

Guys

JHU/JVP

In 1987 JRJ/IPKF gave a reason for JVP to activated/ militarised. Bad part was SLFP was behind them, giving the momentem. Good part today is UNP is not inline with JVP/JHU.

Idian opposing in 87 finally resultd with 50,000+ sinhala youth dead. JRJ/RP was solving southern issues while LTTE/IPKF solving northern issues. It too sad we forget 20 years history.

My guess is; once India said war should be stopped JHU patriots blood pressure went up togther with sinhala patriosism. When they called their few members, reserved places, obtain police aprovals, organize the protest, find people to be there and finally put into media; at that time MR/GR/BR worked on the issue an its almost solved. But the expired drama is still to be shown.

JVP rejected MR invitation just for talk. I did agree with Somawanse when he said "Newdelhi is not Budhgaya". Similar to LTTE, JVP also getting closer day by day to be sent home. Its kind of natural death and I am not sure what they are upto.

JHU reminds me the stupid monkey who hit the fly by a sword to protect the king. JVP is like a monkey hitting the fly but powerfull enough to kill both himself and the king.

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Anonymous said...

India should lift ban on LTTE, says Prabhakaran

The Hindu - In an e-mail interview to Chennai based Tamil Magazine Nakkeeran, Prabhakaran hailed Tamil Nadu Chief Minister M Karunanidhi's stand of seeking quick relief measures for the displaced Tamils.

So VP also has become a key board warrier !!! What is email interview? Yahoo chat? How the other party knows it is really VP who answered? Used a web cam? So VP also came to shyam, peter et al level??

My guess; VP is seriously ill.

Rana said...

Ninja,

Now you say something totally different. Earlier you were suspecting JHU/JVP with RAW.

Now your stand is different. JHU is a joke, I agree but JVP is not joke, at least not yet.

One thing is both parties are for sinhala buddhists. Sinhala buddhists cannot be bought by RAW because we will never ever sell our nation or religion.

Rana said...

Indian don't do quick things for free. VP has paid film directors, Karuna'dhi, handsomely or has asked Norway to take care of that.

Now they have done their part and VP has to pay again for the next part.

Rana said...

Booru, Beery B'rav,

Why intelligent monky require a modaya to form a web site. Hook Peter, he is the ideal dog for that or even thiru will fit the bill!

Anonymous said...

Rana

I didn't mean JVP/JHU work with RAW with an understanding.

Inteligent agancies know what and how to do for get things done by different people. RAW may not give money rather than they will tell how sinhala/buddhism should be protected from Indian influence to JHU while for JVP they will say how can they acheive socalism by opposing indian imperialism.

JHU did their job when CBK was there. And people don't need them as long as MR fight the war. Same for JVP.

Saman said...

Ok rana, if you say protests are with controlled anger and first with heart and then with head no dramas bro. But, in Sri Lanka I have not seen one such in my whole life. It starts we heart (fully imotionally charged) then with balls (no brains) and land on ass.

Ninja, good way of explaining JHU/JVP. In 87, I was young and simpathised with JVP - I could not stand IPKF scums purging on our soil or Premadasa's bad politics. JVP, as you said going down the drain and no longer will be a force. Then only they become stupidly un-predictable. That is my worry. There are plenti of Sighala idiots out there who F*** up and say "I did not know what I was doing".

Moshe Dyan said...

Sexually Transmitted Disease has got yellow fever!

another potential addition to bloodyrav's website.

happy diwali!!

Moshe Dyan said...

ninja,


it is Inteligence agancies NOT Inteligent agancies.

Anonymous said...

Well said Saman regarding ptotests. When you read this "Bodu Bala Sena to teach a lesson to Indian imperialists that they would never forget even for another hundred years" you hardly see controlled anger but you can see unlimited brainless patriotrism coming from heart.

I do agree with rana when he said we should oppose intervention. True, but this is not the way.

Anonymous said...

ooops thanks MD

Sun Tzu's disciple said...

The lack of ' fresh or exciting ' news have made some self-declared pundits go tizzy:)
They are forced to pass-time alternately-- by picking fights where there is none;)

perein said...

Happy Deepavali to all those celebrate the day.

Unknown said...

Prabakaran said..

"Jayalalitha had also voiced her support. But, if she has changed her stand now, what could we say about it," he said replying to a query."

here..

Now what were the thoughts ringing in his head while his mouth said this???

.... I'll bloody send a suicide bomber to finish you off and teach a lesson not to disobey me Jayalalitha!.....

Kithul said...

guys

taking you off course but acstunning clip worth seeing....

F15 lands with one wing not SLAF

thought it might help breal the monotony of a 486 post long dicussion, meandering it's way ..

Unknown said...

Again Prabhakaran said


"We do not carry out attacks on innocent Sinhala civilians."


over here....


Aaaaaahhh haaaaa haaaaa haaaaaa!!!
Buwaha ha ha haaaaaaaa haaaa!!
Uhuuhaaa haa haaa haa a a a aa aaaaaargh!!!
Help I am dying of laughter!

Kithul said...

ohhh damn the guy with so many diseases wants a fight.... nice try....

N said...

Guys, you have already seen Robert Blakes’ statement, right? It is very irritating that MR is tolerating these entire BS. Well, some Ministers & MPs in the ruling party are contradicting government policies & making pro-LTTE statements, our spineless Opposition Leader RW & the TNA are also making detrimental statements to Sri Lanka, Norwegians are supporting & funding LTTE terrorists in and out of SL at their will, diplomats too are openly interfering in our internal affairs, UN based organizations have been caught red handedly supporting the LTTE on many occasions, the neighboring India dictating terms & conditions. And as usual everybody gets off the hook because the GoSL is too passive & have no back bone (proper Sinhala word should be “Nivata”) to act accordingly.

"Norwegians are the diplomatic 'advance guard' of the US-European Empire. They helped destroy Yugoslavia. They set Israel on the path to destruction. Now they will finish destroying Sri Lanka. Next: India." -Francisco Gil-White


Out of the topic, during the SAARC, even an Indian actor turned down our President’s invitation (his excuse was that there was inadequate security for him but 3000 Indian soldiers, 2 battleships & helicopters were sufficient for the Indian PM) Why is it like this? Our President MR should keep his dignity and should not bow down to every Tom, Dick & Harry and let others take SL for granted, there’s a saying somewhat goes like this;

If you bend your spine to every one, even the beggars in the street will kick you’.

Isn’t that what exactly happening to SL? What are India, IC, Norwegians, diplomats, media, NGOs and everybody doing? If SL can stand up at least once instead of this boot licking attitude, the outcome would be different in the future.

Don’t forget fact that when the LTTE gave the ultimatum to massacre 50,000 soldiers trapped in Jaffna, India or none of the so called Western friends did lift a finger to help us. (India offered just to evacuate the soldiers but only Pakistan helped us as a true friend).

No one but a fool would measure their satisfaction by what the world thinks of it.

Rana said...

WoW n,

Slow down man, you can't get angry and solve problems, shouting posts in a blog is something and diplomacy is another thing.

I agree with you brother whole heartedly but the GOSL cannot do things as it pleased. We are one of the smallest nations with a internal conflic, that is mean we are divided, when you are divided any body can easily get you. Remember that before you growl.

We need to use our brain, we need to be smart, Why?

We are very poor country depending on others. India is more than 100 times powerful and has wealth, support and most of all no such internal trouble like ours.

Think man, caution is the word.

Most of the times I think like you, but do not have luxury to act like you. Got it?

Rana said...

Further to n,

India or any other country cannot interfere with our country, if we do not have a cancerous problem like this which is created by MF zakkilias.

AS now it is there, we need to act sensibly and calmly to achieve our objective which is eliminating LTTE with pottu and VP, then we are freee to give middle finger to India any time we want.

If we are worth a pinch of salt, we should be able to do it!!!

This is a big asking from MR, GR, BR and SF, Let us hope that they can deliver.

I pray for it.

"OKKOMALATA YODA BALA YODHA HATTHIYA LABEWA"

BTW why we don't give Mervin some position in defence Dpt. He might be able to harress LTTE better than any body else, even if he get killed by doing so, who is going to worry?

N said...

Dear Rana,

Thanks mate. Shall drop a few lines if I get some free time. Cheers!

Rana said...

You are well come n, any time brother,

You sounded almost like a known person, have you changed your name bro?

It doesnt matter, come back any time, when ever you are free!!!

Kithul said...

nemesis

a call to you once again,it's always when there's a photo of some unknown weapon

what's the weapon carried by vp in the asiantribune photo?

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