The Army will shortly declare the liberation of Elephant Pass, a garrison lost years ago. It will be a historic victory in this sector and the 53 and 55 have been given the opportunity to raise the lion flag and their share of the victory.
Clearing operations are being finalized at EPS. A Major was killed by a boobytrap but other than that, no serious incidents have occurred since the capture of Soranpattu. The 58 and 53 will not meet up. The former started moving east of Paranthan via Murusamoddai towards Chalai/Mulaitivu.
Friday, January 9, 2009
EPS to be declared captured shortly
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"I would say let's convince they have whole SL rather than NE tamil eelaam. i.e. They become part of whole SL."
no, mate. this will not happen UNTIL we frustrate (make it LOGICALLY impossible) their dream. why?
i don't know. they want TE - a seperate country, FULLSTOP.
i can argue with you but i think unless you have LIVED with tamils, you will NEVER know.
i grew up (partly) in wellawatta. most of the neighbours, friends (& some relatives too) were tamils. for the few years i can remember i may have gone to dozens of tamil girls' "kudi bleeding parties" (sorry, that's how i call them; they were like weddings!!!). i know exactly how their minds work.
IF (only IF) brits handed over the country back to the dutch and if the dutch handed it over back to the portugese and portugese back to shakkili, things would have been different.
not better though.
please understand that solutions are needed NOT for what you logically think as the problem. the solution is needed to THOSE WHO HAVE THE PROBLEM.
no solution is also a solution. only when it comes to, "what cannot be cured must be endured".
don't think that by being VERY kind to them they will change.
e.g. even if you are VERY kind to, love, respect a person, you can't FORCE him/her to marry you. she may run away with an unemployed, dirty, useless terrorist!!
Stopterro is reporting that a lot will happen in the next 24hrs to 7 days.
Fat pig is expected to make the long awaited move. Hopefully the airforce will be ready and waiting.
Stopterro also is speaking in code it seems, he wrote:
"Pottu-- you will die and be reborn"
Sounds like Pottu will be "killed" and given a fake indetity and shipped off to another country, I heard someone here say a country in eastern europe.
Rana,
Could you offer your other half free of charge with daughter's price tag?
Why the hell are people here talking about silly music, when other more vital news is brewing?
Soosai is also expected to make his move as well, Stopterro says.
Rana,
If your daughters and wife sees these, they may offer free of charge.
Surely they had enough of listening to your crap.
There is a unconfirmed news that Pottu Amman has captured. Is it correct?
I believe these blogs are good Round table for fighting with ideas and beliefs. Others like (Bhariv, Thiru and Mahen) will give their side of story, which we are not getting in any so called free media. It is true for the Diaspora tamils also as they not getting the correct picture of LTTE and SLA.
Point I want to make is don't use a third-class words in somewhat intelligent discussion. This is mainly to Moshe who continuously use "Sakkili", which is disgusting. According to Buddhism "A man become a low-caste or high-caste not by the birth but only by the action". So Moshe your action show who is the real "sakkili?
This is the fundamental of the problem, if others not like what we believe, then we try to force our idols with power or we degrade them and insult them. This will further distant you from the others (Guyz this is true not only for politics but on day to day domestic matters as well).
" So don't reject what you cant understand " and "die for the others rights to be wrong as far as they are ethical" . If you insult and throw away the people with different ideas, you could be a King but only to fools and make more powerful enemies.
From the beginning Bhariv was a persons who behind the tamil cause (whatever it is!). But he is not a blind follower but genuinely see the facts. I can understand his feeling as I had the same when we lost EPS and Kili (we "set" everyday for 1 week to wash the feeling with "Gal Arrack".
But now all Sri Lankans must do is show the reality to people who was brain washed by LTTE in North and what they've missed in 30 years. And specially the reality of that SLA and people in south has changed over the lat two decades and not monsters as LTTE painted in a controlled environment (where they not getting any other news than LTTE propaganda).
Though not strategic, Kili is the symbol of the Eelam. LTTE forced the idea to people that "their Colombo and our Kilinochchi" and "Their Lion flag and our Tiger flag". When people in North start to think we have one flag and one country that is the biggest victory.
"ALL FOR ONE. ONE FOR ALL"
Kapila200
I am pretty sure its true. SF broke the news in code speech first in LNP. Then Mahen in his blog and Stopterro came out and said that Pottu has surrendered to security forces a few days ago.
Even the peelamists in LNP are believing it too.
when children go out on their own one day i'll really miss the fun & madness. can understand how rana feels.
Hi GoldenEagle
What is the URL of Stopterro"
Is Pottu Amman Captured? Un confirmed News!
bahairav says of mahen or thiru (or is it the other way around?) "u low caste" in their blog for some disagreement.
so tamils are pretty much fucked up & used to being labelled along caste lines.
@Veeran
I seem to have touched the nerve of
another LTTDumbPussy who had aspirations of flying tin toy plane for peelam someday. If you dumb c*nt get up there you'll crash and die when village boys throw rocks
I'm trying to help you here cant you see
HAHAHA looooser
reply to old post of gotymbara,
"Other than lttp problem, this country is ruined by our politicians only. Since the day britiah gave us half indipedence back in 1948,tell me how many politicians ruled the country?????"
I think the MAIN problem is LTTE. comparing LTTE to local politicians is like comparing a massive heart attack to a common cold. it was the LTTE that land mined 13 soldiers & opened a pandoras box.
with that act everything got militarized & paved the way for crooked politicians & business deals. JR's selfish postponement of elections & shit constitution didn't help.
But if u look around we see plenty of businesses that have come up thru the enterprise of hard working people. they employ hundreds. some of these businessman are from the outstation areas who know the value of money & hard life not having even the ability of spoken english. we need much more people like this. (entreprenuers). it's amazing. some of them employ fully qualified CIMA accountants.
while i admit that politicians do major shit, blaming them for everything doesn't work. we're the people who elect them. so we should work towards our own salvation at a personal level as well as national level. i think we have started going in the right direction. we gotta have a benevolent dictator. like singapore & malaysia has.
we must aim to be more developed than those countries & attract qualified people. it's highly possible. what isn't?
2 years ago everybody had given up on national liberation. today?
Hey guys(rana,moshey),
What the hell has happened to u guys.we dont want to hear about your families and songs.This is a defence blog.It is very sad to see guys like youll talking bullshit when there are other important matters.WHAT ARE NEW UPDATES ABOUT POTTU AND VP.WHAT THE HELL IS HAPPENING IN IN THE LTTP HIERARCHY.WHAT IS SF AT LNP TALKING ABOUT. DONT U GUYS WANNA KNOW ABOUT THESE??????
please return to defence matters
thank you
Hi Single
I do agree with what you said.
We need to change the minds of People, Tamil, Muslims & Sinhalese & others living in the North & East. There should be one flag.
We should encourage all Governement building, organisations, private building parks everyware our lion flag flying high.
I was holydaying in malasia, and Kuala Lumpur in 2033 for a week. I was surprised when I landed at KL airport and travelling to Hotel. Malasian very big flags is flying in every building.
What we need to do it that. Every place especially in government building in the north & east like schools, Kovils, temple, mosks, postoffices, AGA's everyware should have Lion flag flying. This will start to change the small kids brain.
velluprabhakaran said...
while i admit that politicians do major shit, blaming them for everything doesn't work. we're the people who elect them.
Its true that we elect politicians. but sometimes we dont have much of a choice when both sides are in it for their own selfish reasons and not because they want to serve the country.
Tamil Homeland? Right This Way, Sir!
Dear LTTE supporters:
The problem seems to be that you are lacking some basic travel directions to a Tamil-only homeland. I know its confusing, but let me try to help you out here.
In Sri Lanka, we only have a country for all Sri Lankans; unfortunately for you, there is no room here for a separate Tamil-only state.
But don't despair, there is already a "Tamil-only homeland" in the world. As our misfortune would have it, it is just across the Palk Strait, no, not Street but Strait; yes, to the Northwest of Sri Lanka, in a large country called India. Yes, its spelt I-N-D-I-A. If black men in turbans armed with AK-47s come out to greet you in motorboats, you have overshot..that is Somalia; you have to backtrack several thousand miles. This time correct the direction a few degrees to the North and try again. They call it Bharat, but we know it as Dambadiva...yes, yes, I know...we are modayas to give you the directions. As soon as you land on the beach, take a sharp left and follow the road signs towards "Tamil Nadu". No, No, its T-A-M-I-L N-A-D-U! Ask for Karunanidhi, he's a jolly fellow...makes highly forgettable rabble-rousing speeches all the time...he will help you settle in and prepare for the coming war of independence against India.
If Tamil Nadu is too tightly packed for you, or they mistreat you because you are not of the correct caste, or you only want other people to fight your wars, call Canada right away...their welfare programs are the easiest to milk, but Norway is definitely the best place for LTTE supporters! Small population; easy to destabilize in any direction.
A word of caution though, don't mistreat either the natives, or non-LTTE supporting Tamils, once you get there. Its not nice and they react badly...much worse than Sri Lankans! You may want to take the Dale Carnegie Course entitled "How to make friends and influence people" right away to help you fit right in, at least until the war of independence for the latest addition to the Greater Dravidian Nation begins there!
URGH!!!
the suspense is unbearable!!
WE NEED I..N...F..O..R..M..A..T..I..O..N
Patriots,
Pls do not talk about your families for your own safety and safety of your loved ones. I understand some become friends here, if that's the case create a NEW email get them to email you and confirm that it's them then exchange your real emails through that. Use your brain... dont be stupid.
Hi Veluprabakaran
You said
"2 years ago everybody had given up on national liberation. today?"
Yes that is because of RW and the UNPiers except Rukman, Sajith & few). They tried to convince Lankans that we cannot defeat LTTE and if we go for War it is a waste of money and people. They need to satisfy business people and foriegn companies and get their share at the cost of Sl's North South.
Lalith
Stopterro's URL:
"http://www.lankanewspapers.com/
news/members/space/index.jsp?
id=stopterro"
Man... some of the bloggers here have lost their minds, they discuss about crappy ear-bleeding music modeled after the love-struck tree-swinging monkeys who sing in bollywood movies.
Guys LISTEN UP!!!
A LOT IS HAPPENING AS WE SPEAK IN LANKA. PAY ATTENTION!
i find all this chatter about something "big" brewing interesting. while there is no confirmation, i feel there is definitely something going on. coincidentally there seem to be a lull in news from the front - i am there's fighting going on but it seems to have been overshadowed by these unconfirmed reports and a general silence across all the sites.
even if these reports aren't true, they were probably part of a disinformation campagne aimed at the tigers and their supporters to cause confusion and chaos on their side. so whichever way you look at it - it's win-win.
but if this really is the collapse of the proverbial house of cards, that's great. certainly seem to be gaining momentum. like i said before, there's no smoke without fire.
I seem to have touched the nerve of
another LTTDumbPussy who had aspirations of flying tin toy plane for peelam someday
U Pussy Bitching abt things that are not comprehensive to u.
i would like to take u on joy ride on TAF & drop u from there.
[But now all Sri Lankans must do is show the reality to people who was brain washed by LTTE in North and what they've missed in 30 years.]
don't agree very much. this is not a 30 year problem. more like 3,000 years.
sinhala will always be sinhala & tamil always tamil. tamils awill laways believe in eelam. or federalism. [the first step to eelam]. before we know it we'll be staring eelam down the face. we won know what hit us. only a matter of time. seccession is the ultimate goal of ALL TAMILS. sangaree, douglas, thondaman en bloc.
SO THERE'S NO AMICABLE SOLUTION. THERE'LL NEVER BE!
IT CAN ONLY BE MANAGED!
as far as sinhala are concerned there's only one management solution.
BE STRONG! make any future eelam project look so costly that no tamil will even dream of one.
THAT'S THE SOLUTION.
it's the responsibility & duty of minorities to learn the language & adapt to the countries majority. that's how all countries in the so called democratic west work smoothly. why should we try to reinvent the wheel?
agree with those of you who urge others not to post personal stuff on this blog. mostly because it is inappropriate and the internet is a dangerous place.
this is the flipside of online anonymity.
I would except that I dont think LTTDumbPussy tin planes come in two seater version. let me know when you get some hehe
Bhairav;
Before I go into the long reply to you, let me tell you a story told by a wanni tamil to me. We were seated in adjacent seats of an office during Piss Talks period. He once elaborated this "tamil grievences" as follows;
"There have been differences and unfair acts upon them in the past, and some time back there was injustice. But with the coming of pussycats, there happened to be a greater problem both sides faced. So both sides got occupied in solving the bigger issue. Right now those original misconduct no longer exist. Tamils have left aside the insignificant past when present time is like hell. Sinhala no longer think as Sinhala but they're more of an anti-terror nation now. So if we eliminate this one big problem, everything else is ready to be a single nation."
Certainly politicians can mess this. But as ppl I believe wanni tamils are in raw state, w/o any ideology right now.
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You believe in what you say and Tamils believe in what they think.
Correction. It should be read as; "You believe in what you say and I believe in what I think." You can not believe for the entire tamil race. They vary from place to place and person to person.
A) Accept the fate whatever solutions you get from this MR govern and live under its puppet leaders until the right time comes for the final push.
No choice but accept the rest of proceedings, correct. But what is this crap about "final push". Note that after liberating land and destroying leadership only < 50% of the journey is over. SL will have to maintain strong military [as proposed by many here, and hinted by SF]. Also there should be a strong anti-terror drive for next 20yrs at minimum. In legislative frame work we need to define treason and bring about laws, like India has. In fact if we had them from 1948, the entire misleading of tamils by Chelvanayagam Sundaralingam et al wouldn't have occurred. We should promote pluralism, but banish separatism. It seems that same ideas go thru the big brains too.
"Final push". Come on Bhairav, you first have to start over from sq 1. Long way from final push.
I do not expect all tamils to believe in pluralism with sun rise tomorrow. In fact there will be so many separatist aspirations. That is why we need legal and military framework to squash them in the first occasion. In another words, never let it grow upto a "final push".
B) Eelam Tamils and Diaspora Tamils should continue to tell their kids/grand kids that what happened to Tamils in SL pre-Eelam history, Eeelam war I,II,III,IV etc. It will always give Tamil aspirations regardless of what time era we are moving.
But will they follow your crap?
In fact Wanni tamils will talk about eelam days as if my parents taught me about 1971 event or 1970-1977 era. I have a very dark picture about Dr N M Perera who spear-headed 70-77 economy. Right or wrong I will never let a leftist to be minister of finance as far as my vote is concerned. I'm sure Wanni tamils will do the same for separatists.
Oh ho the diaspora other half. Sure you will try Bhairav, to copy-paste the still images of 1983 in their minds. I'm sure you can try next generation. But that will be it.
The organization you have is rotting. Smell of corruption cheating and misconduct is reaching every neck of the woods in this planet. Unity against the criminal acts and prejudice over your behavior is spreading all over. A kid brought up in a first world country with their education will rarely follow the crap taught by diaspora. Your next generation will be 50/50. But imagine them trying to teach the one after w/o no first hand exp. In fact this will lead into a total nonsense and a fantasy world.
Note that meanwhile the so called eelam tamils will be working jolly well for a united SL with their own politicians. Wouldn't the expats feel alienated? Also note that after war the migrants will stop in a great way. So you will be separated further from SL tamils.
End result. In another few decades, the Mahabooru day will be the day for a tamil diaspora boy to convince the sexy diaspora babe on dating, or few pals of Pongu Thamil cool gang to gather and have a beer talking about some rugby game or overnight booze. They will have enough earthly matters of their soil - canada or australia - instead of Kumari Kandam or Eelam crap.
C) Tamils should produce role models globally - billionaires,sportsmen,music folks,scholars - so that our voice will be heard when we try to win our rights back.
Sonnenkinder plan, Hitler outthought you and proved you're wrong.
Do not think that MIA can be produced in a purely British kid. MIA has migrated from SL, struggled a lot to get integrated. I never say that they can't reach this height, but when they do, they will understand your tribalism bullshit and throw away the racist shell. Pluralism is for wisdom, tribalism for barbarians - right or wrong that is today's world order.
D) India is sitting on the time bomb of Muslim issues, so I expect Tamil separate land in Indian, lets say in 30 or 40 years.
DO NOT Challenge Navindran please.
TN is very rightly your separate homeland, but never will be.
The day that you take part in this event is your final day as a group. Sadly we envy the international powers of India which can crush anyone like you. SL is too small to beat the international threats on us.
So if this is part of your plan, we can leave it all for the big brother.
E) With the introduction of Tamil Separate land in India, Eelam Tamils should start the final push.
Instead, with the introduction of tamil separatism to indian context [which was "jailed" from 1960s] so called eelamists will be bundled into the chola-land fighters and India and SL can jointly crush the international remains of separatism.
Please start this ASAP.
Or if Govern understands the real grievances of Tamils, gives satisfactory solution, they should stick to it, live under one nation
No govt will ever give solutions for races. Govts will devolve power to regions. If the "kumari Kandam hoax" is part of your grievances, sorry mate, we have no room for fantasy. If ridding poverty, gaining opportunity, distribution of civil administration, freedom from cultural burdens, equal rights, relieving from castism and language difficulties etc are your grievances, SL will welcome you into their loving hands and we all can work together for one SL.
- many Tamils still believe SL is beautiful nation.
They do and they're just waiting for a chance to get rid from unfair iron grip of pussycats and pro-pussycat diaspora [and I believe you also believe more in one SL than other rot]
Satisfactory solution is nothing less than NE combined federal solutions from Tamils' point of view.
A canadian living there for many years cannot talk about it. Past 20 years were the time of eye opening for many. In both ends.
I never bother discussing details of solution. There are ppl who can do that. But before the solution the ethnic integration should happen. Solution should never include races in it. If not what will happen is that next immediate tamil side will go home angrily and mastermind another revenge [and in turn "homicide" some more tamils]
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Many things are getting clearer now. Many things are getting defined. After all, we were too compassionate. The world order is to crush the separatists ruthlessly and devolve under pluralism.
Mayil,
Munta mewa therila iwarayi. Kotinma mun devana saelasuma [neethimaya ramuvak] patan ara ivarayi. Ekath mul eka wage ma wevi.
Habayi methana vadagath ma de thamayi munta mewa wataheema. Podi evun wage eelamata udav karanava kiyala salli evana eke palak naetthi bava. Saha oka hari yana waedak novana bava.
exactly velu..
Prepare for a war that we would not fight!
be strong and intimidate..
like the Iranians.
Lalith said,
"I was holydaying in malasia, and Kuala Lumpur in 2033 for a week. I was surprised when I landed at KL airport and travelling to Hotel. Malasian very big flags is flying in every building."
i think more than flag waving, we need to focus on inculcating a sense of national identity and values in schools and also use it as a platform to erradicate any subversive thinking that goes counter to our national values that children may pick up at home or in their neighbourhoods.
as to what this national identity and values are we should seriously ask ourselves - especially after the war. but i think that's the way to go and avoid a repeat of this 30-odd-year-old nightmare we are just beginning to wake up from.
as for the flags in malaysia - i suspect you might have been there during a national holiday or festival. most of these countries usually have clear set rules as to when, where and how to use the national flag so that it would not be misused/abused or flown inappropriately. think we can learn from this as well.
one of the things that have been going for sinhala is some obvious kind of superiority for the past 2,500 years. otherwise how come such a small nation wasn't gobbled up by india for so long? has any patriot thought about this question?
even the north indians regarded us with a kind of respect.(except for indira, due to unp foulmouths of the time).
they probably saw an exeptional honesty & civility about us. maybe stimulated by buddhism.
in fact on utube there are some old british documentaries about ceylon which are pretty revealing. even the brits openly accept that sinhala are way ahead of other asians at the time.
this was exactly what bugged the indians who saw JR taking off with capitalism while india was stuck in socialism & cholera.
[ duzz said...
exactly velu..
Prepare for a war that we would not fight!]
duzz, u said it beautifully!
veeran,
whens my joy ride coming up?
But I dont think LTTDumbPussies would let a man fly with you. Remember mens role is hiding inside bunkers while women flight.
comrehensive?
are you talking about LTTDumbPussy planes not really being planes?
rusted throw away cropdusters
is that why the bombs didnt explode?
Thanks for pointing that out
HEEHEE
For those waiting for the government to confirm Pottu's surrender. Do you expect the GOSL to announce:
"Pottu has surrendered to us, lets hope India and Interpol won't demand him like they said they would all these years. Shhhhhhhh! Don't tell anyone but we might want to give him a new indentity and ship him off to another country."
veeran
did they give you LTTDumbPussy a cyanide pill as well?
They didnt did they?
learn to swallow bitch then you'll get some
haha
Golden,
if GOSL has pottu, it might not be revealed for weeks because as soon as LTTPussies find out they'll change all their hiding places so interrogating him becomes useless.
So do you want to hold your breath for that long?
Dear Patriots,
Troops captured 2.5km's long, 4th LTTE airstrip, 5km's west of Mullaithivu lagoon today.
""Single said...
..........
.....According to Buddhism "A man become a low-caste or high-caste not by the birth but only by the action".""
The brutal, barbaric, inhuman acts carried out by LTTE definitely justify calling them Sakkilis. Anybody supporting them also deserves same.
Puran Appu,
Thank you for that bro.
Any idea we can see that on some map?
"err..you and what army...?".
GOSL considering handing over VP to India. Good idea... TN poloticos can have this bait to nibble while we cleanup tiger s***t from SL.
these fukcing trouble makers like USA, canada, norway, australia & germany should first set & example by making red indian, spanish, eskimo, aboriginee & other native dead languages (which they wiped out systematically) compulsary for all citizens. then lecture us.
guys isn't it amazing that it's always the whites who genocided their own natives that are sobbing about racial inequality? they sob everywhere except for israel & oil rich middle east! in saudi they still cut off limbs while the usa complains about oil prices. talk about vested interests & human rights soup.
i can undertand india's position due to nadu electoral system.
have u ever heard russia, china, iran, south korea, japan, complaining about how other countries treat their minorities?
must surely be the terrible guilt complex + inherent trouble making for commercial gains of western nations.
these factors kept LTTE running for 30 years & cost us billions. so never trust ANYBODY!
we're our own saviours. if we don heplp ourselves by becoming strong we're dead. as simple as that.
from Mahens blog
Friday, 9 January 2009
Poddu Amman surrenders to GoSL
Poddu Amman, LTTE intelligence wing leader and former second in command of the LTTE has surrendered to the GoSL. The surrender took place in an undisclosed location when the LTTE veteran handed himself over to a SLA Special Forces unit. This news does not come as shock to loyal followers of the LTTE as our supreme commander had fallen out with Poddu Amman for his failure to effectively target the GoSL military commanders and top politicians. The President of Tamil Eelam banished the intelligence wing leader a few weeks ago, and ever since then Mr Amman had been looking for ways to give himself up to the GoSL as he feared for his life from LTTE loyalists who were unhappy with his performance. Mr Amman has been taken into Special Forces custody and is held in undisclosed location where he is being interrogated by Sri Lankan security apparatus. Our source has relayed to us that the surrender of Mr Amman will not affect LTTE operations in any way as he was gradually relieved of his duties, and is not known to hold any sensitive information regarding the LTTE. A replacement intelligence wing leader has already been found, EFT will not disclose her name for national security reasons
i think VP and all other high-risk captives should be executed like what the CIA and the Bolivians did with Che Guevara.
it should be well documented and all necessary evidence collected, so that there would be no conspiracy theories and rumours after their deaths or doubts about their demise. also, they should be buried in an unmarked grave (it's location kept as a state secret) so that they their graves would not become shrines or symbolic gathering points in the future.
59th Div. captures LTTE airstrip
Troops operating in the Mullativu area captured an LTTE airstrip together with two empty hangars this morning, said Military
lankaputhra ,
"59th Div. captures LTTE airstrip"
Where did you get the details mate.
Adrenaline_Grin said...
i think more than flag waving, we need to focus on inculcating a sense of national identity and values in schools and also use it as a platform to erradicate any subversive thinking that goes counter to our national values that children may pick up at home or in their neighbourhoods.
This is a good idea, but when we have sinhala and tamil schools with students attending them divided along racial lines, achieving what you elude to become a bit challenging.
perein,
Not Sure Bro.
Guys,
Interesting story on Lakbima.
Nadesan and some others going to surrender?????
PussyTigers said...
"This is a good idea, but when we have sinhala and tamil schools with students attending them divided along racial lines, achieving what you elude to become a bit challenging."
i hear you. but like i said these are things we need to think about once the fighting is over and nation building truly begins.
I heard some news that pottu amman is being killed by the army.Anyone got any updates on that
59th Div. captures LTTE airstrip
Daily Mirror
Troops operating in the Mullativu area captured an LTTE airstrip together with two empty hangars this morning, said Military
Tharinda-
" I heard some news that pottu amman is being killed by the army.Anyone got any updates on that"
Yes.. Can you contact the person who told you, ask him/her to deliver the body.
Stop publishing the Bull.
perein,
>>>>Any idea we can see that on some map?>>>>
Check this out. Look like it's it.
http://wikimapia.org/#lat=9.260459&lon=80.6787872&z=14&l=0&m=a&v=2
Thank you for that Puran.
The current situation is to rthe advantage of the Srilankan army. The world history proves that there have not been any gurilla war in an island that became a victory.The world is understanding a very true fact.LTTE are not freedom fighters. It is a personal war of prabakaran that has a major infiority complex. The tamil nation is misguided with an unture perception about sinhalese that cultivates hate and anger.
Rana,
western version of "NIM HIM SEWWA" song
What? This is genuine, not a version. Well sung.
Better mail to Master himself.
Nice song selection too.
Talking about expat gals singing, there is one Arosha who was brought up in Canada singing as a hiphop gal in SL right now. Recently she was in a popular star program in TV. She sang mostly classics [mostly of Nanda M] exactly faultless. Many stars brought up in SL felt ashamed for not knowing and liking many classics like that.
My comment at The Economist
Pras Geng: Black July riots in 1983 were preceded by 4 years of hit-and-run against the Sinhala people and government officials. The riots were precipitated by the killing of 13 government soldiers. The LTTE and other Tamil terrorists did these things deliberately to provoke a violent-response from the Sinhala people, to alienate their people and create a captive constituency, and then yell "discrimination"! Since then, the LTTE has killed over 100,000 Sinhala people, and injured countless others, yet there has not been a single instance of communal retaliation against Tamils by the Sinhalese, over a 30-year period.
There is no comparable record of restraint in India, where the slightest spark sets off communal violence: Ayodhya riots, tit-for-tat train killings in Gujerat, murders of dalits for daring to ask for better treatment, terrorizing dalits to deny access to universities, destroying hundreds of christian churches, and at least 13 major violent separatist insurgencies underway now. India is using military force to suppress these armed terrorists, as it should to preserve its integrity and protect its people. Sri Lanka has to do the same, for the same reasons.
You point to the molehill of Black July and Jaffna Library burning ignoring the mountain of awful crimes, suicide bombings, truck bombings of building, train and bus bombings, massacres of entire Sinhala and Muslin villages in ethnic cleansing, shootings and assasinations of Sinhala and Tamil leaders, abduction of children to serve as soldiers, forced slave labor, torture, extortion, ad nauseam inflicted by the LTTE and other Tamil terrorists against both Sinhala and Tamil people. There is NO COMPARISON IN SCALE between these atrocities, and in the attitudes of the Sinhala people and these people trying to hoodwink the entire world to carve out a racist apartheid Tamils-only Eelam in Sri Lanka. GET REAL! These are monstrous murdering wolves wrapped in the sheepskins of permanent victimhood! These con-artists are like the murderer convicted of axing his parents to death, and then begging the judge for mercy as an orphan!
Pera Digaa Mutthu Attayaii Mee..
Lokeee.. Siribaraa Siri Lanka...
Naggi Sitiyaa hakka Eksathh veee
Beddi Geyothh Rataa Yayiii Sunee Veee..
Pebedewwuu..Pebedewwuu..Pebedewwuu..
Pebedewwuu..
Pebidee Rakimu Apee Lankaa....
Perin
WHATS UR PROBLEM? I JUST WANT TO KNOW THE TRUTH
In london now there is a new way to raise money for LTTE. They call it FLOODS OF TEARS. Literally they collect money sayings its for the people that are effected by the recent floods.As everyone knows there is a huge population of tamils in london and majority of them support LTTE for the very fact they landed in UK becos of the war in Sri lanka.There are shops that sell newspaper publications of LTTE.But increasingly sinhalese people are being united. IF ANYONE IS INTERESTED PLEASE REFER TO RANAVIRUFUND BLOG SPOT.
If the LTTE war is about a freedom fight then why would prabakaran let all the under aged minors fight the war in the hard jungles when his son is in london with all the comforts. This is a personal war. LTTE is not the sole represntative of the tamils in Sri lanka. History will decide who prabakarn is. The war is in the last stages now. The victory is ineminent. However the Srilankan government should not make the same mistake that they did in the past by stoping the war when it is not finished. I hope and pray for the victory of my motherland.We may be thousands of miles away from Srilanka. But our hearts and souls will always be Srilankan.
Guys cant you see? since this stpid RUMAR of pootu been captired or dead, SO MANY NEW ID'S appeare in this blog, asking "Pottu has been captured, is that true?"
If you guys have brains, then you should know people are trying to spread rumors among us....
if pottu captured or dead ,,so be it, lets concentrate on other defense news for now ........
like 5ht air strip has been captured,,,,,
Tigers Shoot Fleeing Civilians; Two Children & Two Women among Seven Butchered
http://army.lk/morenews.php?id=19368
"extensive artillery fire towards Puthukkudiyiruppu in Mullaithivu on Friday night caused panic among the permanent as well as the IDP population in the area who hastily attempted to displace as a result.
Both Tharmapuram in Kilinochchi and Puthukuduyirppu in Mullaithivu have become substitute towns for Kilinochchi and Mullaithivu towns serving large IDP populations. The District Secretariats and the District Hospitals that were in Kilinochchi and Mullaithivu towns are presently functioning in Tharmapuram and Puthukkudiyiruppu respectively. A result most of the displacing people from Kilinochchi and Mullaithivu are crowded in Tharmapuram and Puthukkudiyiruppu. Any artillery fire directed towards these two areas is bound to cause great panic, death and injury."
this is it!!
so we are shelling puthukuduiruppu too.
and tigers want us not to. wow! that means we should intensify the barrage. and two hospitals!!
obviously MORE tigers are injured than civilians. the absense of a hospital would be MOSTLY felt by terrorists not civilians.
4TH AIR STRIP CAPTURED
MULLAITTIVU: THE 59 Division troops under the command of Brigadier NANDANA UDAWATTA operating in MULLAITTIVU area were able to capture the fourth airfield of the LTTE by Saturday (10) morning after responding to stiff resistance of the terrorists.
Soldiers of the 9 SLSR (Sri Lanka Sinha Regiment) commanded by Lieutenant Colonel JANAKA ARIYARATNE serving under the 593 Brigade commanded by Lieutenant Colonel JAYANTHA GOONARATNE launched the offensive against terrorists in the area a few days ago and captured a part of it Friday (9) evening.
At the end of confrontations that lasted during the whole Friday night and Saturday (10) morning, troops completed the capture taking the rest of it under their control Saturday (10) around 9.00 a.m..
Entry to the airstrip was a risky task since it had been surrounded by fortified bunkers and trenches. Troops had to remove booby traps and anti personnel mines laid in the area, about 6.5 northwest of MULLAYAVALAI town centre and about 5 km west of the MULAITTIVU lagoon.
Troops, after search and clear operations conducted on the 2.5 km long airfield with a 1.5 km long tarmac, believe that the area had been maintained as a High Security Zone by the LTTE with a tall barbedwire fence built in a 300 m distance around the airstrip.
Search and clear operations by the 9 SLSR troops so far have found two hangers and several huts which had been partly destroyed by the LTTE before they abandoned the airstrip.
Rana..
Superb Song.. I enjoyed it very much.. and ignore the idiots who don't know how to appreciate some good music.
wonderfully done remake..
moshe,
not sure about shelling hospitals mate. true more terrorists would be there than civilians but a part of me feels for these poor people who have been made homeless and then herded from one place to another like a flock of sheep. They shouldnt have to pay for atrocities committed by terrorists, if anything it's bad enough they had to live among them.
TF 03 NOW 03 KM SHORT OF IRANAMADU MAIN AIR STRIP, THE 5TH TO BE CAPTURED...!!
capturing these air fields are a non issue really. those tin toy planes arent being flown from them. I heard reports previously that they were using highways as runways because the cropdusters are small in size.
jay,
no one had shelled hospitals!
the point is taking over townships with hospitals increase the harvest of terrorists.
injured turned to dead.
according to john whitehall there are hospital facilities in the jungle but these are no way near established ones.
we must take the the remaining towns with hospitals.
BTW re: lankaguardian...
there is no difference between LG and TN and LW/AT combined. victor karunairajan is an OPEN supporter of tamil elam. BRAMAN as proven, only has experience LOSING wars!
a good yardstick of measuring one's credibility is analysing the past "predictions". BRAMAN is a dis-arse-ter!!!
Rana,
Are any of your daughters available for marriage? Any of them single? I know quite a few eligible single men bloggers (patriots) looking forward to settle down with a well brought up traditional and educated Sinhala girl. If this is the case, let me know and I will be more than happy to be the match maker (kapuwa).
Maybe we should name this blog www.marriageproposalwire.blogspot.com
u are right on the money pussy muchanz..
considering that the peelamists still have some shoreline left.. they can even launch em tin cans when its low tide easily!!
pt & pa,
mates, two weeks ago we discussed some issue about flying from pushcchino, russia to kili.
anyway by the same token, a reverse trip is also possible (subject to political constraints) if tigers have the resources.
it can be anywhere of the same distance!
For all the LTTE sympathizers
http://www.army.lk/morenews.php?id=19368
Please look at the faces of these innocent children. Being a parent I felt angry and sad
because what have they done to suffer like this from your own people? You should be ashamed to live in luxury in Western countries safe with your own family, and to support one psychopath to destroy our beautiful country Sri Lanka.
pottu
cool down.. this is getting out of hand
[PussyTigers said...
capturing these air fields are a non issue really. those tin toy planes arent being flown from them. I heard reports previously that they were using highways as runways because the cropdusters are small in size.]
Do they have any more "highways"???
The 2nd airstrip we captured was build on punarin-paranthan road.
Pottu,
What about your biological daughter Dwaraka? She may have some takers. I heard that Asithri had some plans for her.
Vettilikerni is ours!
ok its chupakabra time! i'm heading for a night MTB ride with mates for a few hours.
tank is full with adrenalin. have to get over this silly fear of chupakabras though.
c u guys tommorow.
@Rana
I also listened to some of the songs, absolutely amazing. What is amazing is someone growing up in another country producing Sri Lankan music that way.
That is what we should be talking about man, not defence garbage.
Don't be so sad, I am sure soon you will have grand kids to spoil if you don't have them already.
Lot of credit to you and your family to keep the culture alive.
"Rana said...
Moshi,
Machan, I know about your affection mate, I also have similar loving brother hood about you, brother.
However, My daughters have posted above songs before they got married and already are in public domain. In fact they have performed in many live shows, Aust & NZ radios already.
Do not worry my brother."
guys,
this just in - aboput 30 SLA have turned up at the Sirasa station. No one knows what's going on. Confusion.
sirasa?
WTF?
THAT CRAP AGAIN?
yup. but this time it's army guys in uniform and weapons.
they are trying to find out what's it all about it and talking to them.
everyone's paranoid that the guns will go off again - thought it's army this time.
Pussy Tigers,
[capturing these air fields are a non issue really.]
It is a significant achievement. This particular air strip was built to accommodate a larger aircraft than the Zlin-143 or the PC-7.
An aircraft with a superior payload capacity and range. Ideally suited for arms smuggling or V.P's getaway.
Although parts of A9 were used to make emergency post mission landings, dedicated airstrips were a necessity for LTTE with well concealed hangars.
With LTTE only left with a part of A35, capturing the next 2 remaining airfields will put a definite end to their aerial freak shows.
Folks,
It was not Rana who persisted with the discussion about songs, but me.
I am not going to say sorry about that because I don't think I did it so much so to prevent any of the other folks from talking about defense issues.
Anyway, the guy who tried to condemn the innocent off-shoot of our discussion wasted more space unnecessarily, and tried to show that he is "cool".
Pottu: Don't be an imbecile. That is not way to talk to a father; don't show your moronic face in public.
I am surprised that when MIA was discussed, nobody had any qualms, when a decent Sri Lankan expat singer is discussed (as an innocent offshoot of a defense related matter) people are jumping up and down.
Anyway, won't discuss anything more with uncultured, soulless morons. Remember what Shakespeare said "man who has no music in himself is fit for treasons, stratagems and spoils"!
@ Vajira
thanks for the info machan..
are those runaways even enuf for a c130 hercules?
i wonder if we can use them for LOgistics too.. we have sum c130's to my knowledge
@nisal
yes you're right they were using pooneryn paranthan rd just west of paranthan as a runway
To use as runways they have pretty much all of A35 mind you there would be a lot of air reconnaissance on it not to mention LRRP units. But at night it would be relatively safe. light planes only need a fairly short runway because they are quite slow. any straight stretch of road in good condition could be used. Besides some of these light planes could be dismantled and be hidden in quite confined spaces. disadvantage they're quite useless, only good for propaganda ops.
@velu
Most of the old cultures have their bright spots. Modern Sinhalaya has 2500 well documented history. If we kept on improving ourselves like our ancestors, we are probably in a much better situation now at least intellectually rather than being sucked into western garbage.
A friend of mine was in a tour in Holland ans saw these wonderful dykes. He said to the native that "your forks must have been very clever to build such a network to prevent the flood".
The native replied, "no no, we learned them while we were in Ceylon".
Today, our true Buddhist heritage which is being rejected by us are passing in to certain Western pockets and they embrace it.
"in fact on utube there are some old british documentaries about ceylon which are pretty revealing. even the brits openly accept that sinhala are way ahead of other asians at the time."
@Vajira
If we were so sure those planes needed dedicated runways then why did we not bomb the shit out of half a dozen runways and dig em up a year ago after the first bombardment? Because SLAF knew it would be a waste.
pussy machan..
WE DID BOMB IT.. more than 5 or six times. if my memory serves me right
dont you remember the times when each time bus bomb went off our guys would just fly off and bomb iranamadu runaway..
http://www.lakbima.lk/news/news1.htm
Pottu,
What is this??
Enough is enough..
Rana is a father. Just respect him.
Dont show you family background here. I hope you are from a respectable family. Please stop this Bro.
That link is about Nadesan's surrender.
Vajira , If the Airstrip as built to accommodate larger AC were they planning to buy them or was it for arms shipments .
I am reading this book about this russian guy called Victor Bout who is a major black market dealer who would make his IL 76 's land in small rutted air strips in Liberia, Congo , Afganistan etc for the purpose of Arms shipments . No references to SL there though .
Mate anything about this stuff about Pottu ? Usually your info is spot on .
Vajira,
Any news about Vettilikerni??
Heard that there will be a shuffle in the Divisions?? Is it true??
Also heard that 59 will get an additional strength.
@ GoldenEagle
Here what you are showing is that you are so narrow minded. I bet you haven't got a good education.
If someone can sing that way, it is a gift and not very humans are blessed that way.
I actually fee sorry for you man.
Sri Lankans lived in the past have a very good and long attention span. That made them listen and enjoy classical songs.
Today....
Modern digital and gadget culture has messed up with the minds of the 'Young and the so-so smart' and they can't listen anything but mixing with flashing videos that changes every fraction of a second of so.
I say so since I work for the gadget industry and we want to screw your mind so hard so that you will reject the song you are listening now and the cell phone you carry during next five min to buy another one.
Your misery is our profit. This is how we are taxing being Stupid.
These so called "crappy ear-bleeding music"... well won't they be hot cakes when Rihanna sings them?
" Man... some of the bloggers here have lost their minds, they discuss about crappy ear-bleeding music modeled after the love-struck tree-swinging monkeys who sing in bollywood movies.
Guys LISTEN UP!!!
A LOT IS HAPPENING AS WE SPEAK IN LANKA. PAY ATTENTION!"
@duzz
I remember machan but that was more of a knee jerk reaction than a mission aimed at digging up the runway.
In anycase if VP wants to escape he could always get a sea plane and not have the hassle of managing runways.
I'm still wondering why SLA still havent cleared sea border from NK to chalai. by doing that we could halve the length of coast under enemy control. According to news on dailymirror next target is vadamarachchi
This is exactly you don't want to share your good life on a forum full of scavengers.
The 'Asithri' culture we protect since they carry the dirty work we are wishing is biting our back really hard.
Rana, I know it will be hard to read these comments. When you see them, please replace the 'anger' in your mind with 'sorry'.
Never never try to defend them. We will do that for you.
I think these daughters are priceless and therefore the $2 in your pocket can't even buy them.
"
$ Pottu said...
Rana,
Could you offer your other half free of charge with daughter's price tag?"
ReallyCold,
mate go easy on eagle he was just making the point sharing family info on a blog like this is a stupid thing to do.
as for digital gadget culture mate its about time you got rid of that old gramophone playing clssical records and got an ipod. promise ya you wont go back :) jokes :)
Vajira, Ali,
Sometime back, I heard that No larger aircraft Craft can violate the Indian Air Space, and that Sri Lanka too is included in this Air Space and this Air Space runs 1000's of Miles towards Singapore and towards Madagascar.
The source also said that, LTTE extended it's runaways to mislead the Military.
Most important thing he said is that, If LTTE to get supplies by a larger aircraft, it's only under the permission of India.
good work puran
after we had so much trouble shooting down those tin toy planes I dont have a lot of confidence on our air defence capabilities. Good that India could give us early warning.
Pussy,
Can you please provide us the link to Daily Mirror story about Vadamarachchi?
duzz,
Yes, a 2500m runway fulfills the minimum requirement in length even to accommodate a wide bodied aircraft such as an Airbus A320 (lot more requirements needed of course).
Yes, SLAF has 2 C-130 air crafts in possession.
sam,
vadakachchi story was on defence.lk
http://defence.lk/new.asp?fname=20090110_03
while you're at it this one's a good read
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20090110/wl_sthasia_afp/srilankaunrestmilitary_newsmlmmd
PussyTigers,
India cannot give us early warnings to those tin planes bro.
Tin Plane is a different story.
Since the LTTE started attacks using the Tin Planes, India installed additional radars along the Thamil Nadu coast. This shows how concerned they are.
duzz,
Here is the SLAF Aircraft Inventory.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sri_Lanka_Air_Force
Citizen registration
Media Centre for National Security has announced that all Sri Lankan residents should register at www.citizens.lk or via mobile units that would be made available within the next week, as a security measure.
most of you've read these but for the benefit of those who havent, this dude is the best in business in providing defence analysis
http://sf-3.blogspot.com/
http://historyandwar.blogspot.com/2008_09_01_archive.html
Pussy Tigers,
We have targeted these air strips many times. That was the primary reason that the LTTE had to build 6 runways to facilitate 3 air crafts. Some air strips were concealed well enough to avoid detection and the whereabouts of those were not to the knowledge of SLAF till recently.
The requirement of dedicated air strips was for the survival of their air craft fleet as hangars needed to be situated at close proximity to avoid retaliatory air strikes from SLAF after their missions.
PussyTigers,
What is this Vadamarachchi thing?
Patriots, who didn't go through this please take a look.
1987 Vadamarachchi Operation.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Liberation
machan puran appu, dont count on wikipedia. there are some lost minded LTTE supporters who edit on that.
Side Effect,
Noted.
Thanks Bro.
puran
I meant to say vadakachchi
All these tamil names sounds the same late at night :D ooops
ReallyCold,
"Sinhalese Buddhist cultural people they are the guardians of Buddhist Philosophy without following Buddhism.
"Westerns on the other hand try to follow Buddhism without trying to be the guardians."
That is why Buddhism will survive longer in Sri Lanka- where it has already survived for the past 2300 years- than it will in the West.
PussyTigers,
Heard that Vadakachchi is taken few hours ago.
Trying to get it confirmed. Machan, cant believe.
This www.citizens.lk site is really stipid!
Once certain details are registered there is no way to update.
Vajira,
Is it correct that this Mulliyawei runway is longer than our Ratmalana runway ?
This is the un-paved and the paved parts of mulliyaweli runway taken together ..
Puranappu,
What exactly is the significance of Vadakachchi?
@PussyTigers
"as for digital gadget culture mate its about time you got rid of that old gramophone playing clssical records and got an ipod. promise ya you wont go back :) jokes :)"
I don't have either. I am not one of these music lovers anyway. I hate iPods and therefore I buy Apple stocks :)
Rover,
"I say this because when I am in the West for a long period of time, though I read news everyday, I don't really feel what is going on in Sri Lanka. My nationalistic instincts become greater. But when I am in Sri Lanka, they subside, when I see what all Sri Lankans in Sri Lanka endure everyday."
Yes- expatriate patriotism. The internet is full of it.
Sam Perera,
Suppose to be a strategic junction Bro, and a well known LTTE strong hold.
Better ask Vajira.
@wijayapala
Buddhism needs no guardians Buddhist culture does.
Survival of Buddhism comes from our natural quest for the 'truth'. Dhamma meets those who wants to nourish wisdom in their minds regardless where people live. Sri Lanka has been blessed with few such minds and that 'few' is disappearing fast.
"That is why Buddhism will survive longer in Sri Lanka- where it has already survived for the past 2300 years- than it will in the West."
Well, when you go to Sri Lanka being a patriot and start preaching and they find out you are an expat, that is the moment they don't need you foreigner :)
"wijayapala said...
Rover,
"I say this because when I am in the West for a long period of time, though I read news everyday, I don't really feel what is going on in Sri Lanka. My nationalistic instincts become greater. But when I am in Sri Lanka, they subside, when I see what all Sri Lankans in Sri Lanka endure everyday."
Yes- expatriate patriotism. The internet is full of it."
See how an imaginary racism is unduly dragged in in the closing note of lankadissent.com
puran
fantastic news if true
being a key urban area i woulda expected SLA to take a few days at least to take this one. once taken iranamadu tank east wont hold nor would A35 from murasumoddai to velikkandal. oh machang this is falling like a house of cards.
Sam Perera,
Check this out.
http://defence.lk/new.asp?fname=20090107_10
Look where Vadakachchi is...
It's clear that troops can move up towards Vellikandal junction, and move down towards the Iranamadu tank {Kokavil (Old)}
58 have already taken Murasumoddai and heading towards Vellikandal. so the 57 can move towards Vellikandal This will add more pressure towards the LTTE.
Currently TF 3 is moving north from the Right side of the Iranamadu tank targeting the Iranamadu LTTE runaway. No doubt Taking Vadakachchi will support TF3 as well.
And for Sure this will add more pressure to the LTTE fighting units who are fighting in East of Kilinochchi.
This is my opinion.
Bhairav,
"B) Eelam Tamils and Diaspora Tamils should continue to tell their kids/grand kids that what happened to Tamils in SL pre-Eelam history, Eeelam war I,II,III,IV etc. It will always give Tamil aspirations regardless of what time era we are moving."
The problem is that further generations of diaspora youth will become further disconnected from what is actually happening in Sri Lanka. In fact this is already visible.
During the CFA period when I was working in the N-E, I would run into diaspora kids on vacation who would chatter about how shopping malls and nightclubs will be built in Tamil Eelam after the LTTE achieves victory. They had no f***ing clue what was going on or the situation of the people living there and clearly had little genuine empathy. They were so self-absorbed, a trait clearly picked up by their Western environment.
You really think this sort of people will create Tamil resurgence?
"D) India is sitting on the time bomb of Muslim issues, so I expect Tamil separate land in Indian, lets say in 30 or 40 years."
How will Muslim issues in India lead to a separate Tamil state??
Dear velluprabhakaran
"even the north indians regarded us with a kind of respect.(except for indira, due to unp foulmouths of the time).
"they probably saw an exeptional honesty & civility about us. maybe stimulated by buddhism."
Actually both N. & S. Indians know next to nothing about Sri Lanka. 99% of them would not be able to find it on a map. They don't know about a people called "Sinhalese" or that there is Buddhism in SL.
This is mostly due to their ignorance/illiteracy but also partly because we haven't really been influential or made ourselves noticed even on the regional level.
ReallyCold,
"Buddhism needs no guardians"
I beg to differ. Why did Buddhism completely disappear in India, the land of its origin?
if mahen's news of pottu is cooked up, it only proves that LTTE humour is tasteless. (just like their suicide bombing).
it's like stabbing oneself in the back & laughing about it.
LOL!
Let me refine my argument.
Buddhism will not disappear from the world. It can disappear from certain countries or cultures.
Now, answer to question is a big lesson to Sri Lankans.
The so called guardians became less moral and people rejected them.
I think few of the modern day Bhikkus have the wisdom and that is why they are seeding Buddhism in western countries like England, US, Canada. Some of use export our 'crap' in that direction as well.
@ wijayapala
"
"Buddhism needs no guardians"
I beg to differ. Why did Buddhism completely disappear in India, the land of its origin?"
Wijayapala,
"I beg to differ. Why did Buddhism completely disappear in India, the land of its origin?"
Did it? Certainly it didn't completely disappear. It still is found in the Northern states in India.
Hindus consider Buddha to be one of their deities. I am not sure, but the Hindu preists may have considered Buddha as such, to keep the dissident Hindus from leaving and practicing Buddhism.
It may have been harder for Buddhism to get a strong foot hold in India as an older and a very organized religion (Hinduism) was already practiced by the elites and others there.
In Sri Lanka, that was not the case, and Budhism spread rapidly as there was no competition from other religions (only a few pagan religions and poorly established Hindu vestiges were present).
One of the reasons for the diminishing of Budhism in the Northern states, from its hay day when King Ashoka ruled is supposed to be conversion into Islam (This was the case in Maldives as well).
Well, Buddhist culture hasn't disappeared completely from India.
The Buddhist intellectual contribution that you get from Google certainly not come from India. Fraction of that come from Sri Lanka. The major contribution is seen from Thailand.
[PussyTigers said...
Its true that we elect politicians. but sometimes we dont have much of a choice when both sides are in it for their own selfish reasons and not because they want to serve the country.]
MOST OF THE TIME we don have much of a choice. but SOMETIMES the choice could mean life or death of a race/civilisation as we know it.
all our choices have flaws & are corrupt. one way or the other.
if we appoint a non corrupt clean gentleman chances are he won be able to rule SL & probably run when vesapillai says boo. we need tough weather beaten guys to run our war torn country right now.(corrupt or not). we're still not scandinavia.
but think of this-
if vesapillai allowed 300,000 wanni tamils to vote at presidential elections where would sinhala & sri lanka be today? (I am assuming they would have voted for ranil).
vesapillai made the stock mistake of thinking all sinhala leaders are the same wimps like ranil who cannot stand upto the west/india & completely underestimated mahinda.
vesapillai probably thought ranil would be a big headache with his international connections & his so called international net. what ranil's international net does in iraq settles that theory. sl would have got screwed in iraq style.
vesapillai obviously thought mahinda was a chena boy (as mahen thinks) who had no experience in anything & not done anything outstanding. which was the image even we sinhala had at the time. me incuded, let's face it.
but once he was elected, boy did mahinda change & deliver! sheer brilliance. the first thing he did was neutralise his deadliest opponents by recruiting them with perks.(unp breakway). instinct of survival is the most important trait of a great leader.
then mahinda outshone every other recent leader in all fronts nationally as well as internationally. he stood his ground & foyght tooth & nail for what he believed in. rest is history.
by underestimating & letting mahinda be elected vesapillai screwed himself beyond redemption.
very bad decisions like that including the seemingly simple closing of an anicut (mavil aru) which prabha thought was a casual street corner bullying game has screwed the sundog, his entire dieasspora, their billion $ investments, their grandoise eelam plans & changed history & the complete course of an entire civilisation. the difference between 2 candidates was that big.
the house of cards was exposed & blown away!
so first thing's first. lets screw the terras first.
BTW - look at what happened to lalith kotalawala who boasted about his clean business. now he passes the buck to his manager. it's not his fault. ha ha ha! this is the guy who ran full page ads warning sinhala christians not to vote for mahinda charging he'll destroy the econonmy. today I have a christian friend who lost rs. 8 million at golden key. talk about economic destruction. my friend is planning to sell his car to pay bills. funnily I don see lalith selling anything to settle anything. he seems perfectly ok. sinhala expats should also look at how wall street ceo's payed themselves millions while playing out the pensions of old US citizens. some of these brokers also got bailed out by US govt. as a bonus!
"I beg to differ. Why did Buddhism completely disappear in India, the land of its origin?"
buddha tried to get rid of the caste system & failed. if a high caste king couldn't reform indian caste system nobody can. so caste based hinduism survived. non caste based buddhism faded.
this is the reason so many religious invaders succeeded in converting oppressed to islam & christianity. the hindu fundamental brutality is obvious in the way some christians were thrashed mercilessly & houses set on fire very recently. christisans were forced to burn bibles. it was shown on tv. [in kerala?]
while christian missionaries are not saints exactly (no pun intended) this retaliatory behaviour is excessive.
SL buddhists are never that crude. at least never on record.
Hey again Rana was attacked. Very bad habit. Seems that when Mahen and clan hid in sorrow, the remaining patriots shoot at each other.
Rana, your Ds can sing. And the songs are our favorite ones. Let others say whatever.
G-Eagle, agree on the need to concentrate but let our jolly good pal enjoy the dose and talk about his favorite topic. Rana seems like a good family man, and he's rejoicing the victory, for whatever it is [none of us know it]. Lol.
Well, we dont really have to be talking Defence do we?
But Rana beware when you expose the names of your daughters. This is no-man's land.
wijayapala,
i wasn't referring to average indians. even the epic mahabharatha has mentioned about sri lanka. so indian sea faring rulers obviously knew about sri lanka. they definitely intermarried with local kings & queens. the fact that they were buddhist apparently never bugged the indians.
the first white portugese invaders mentioned that sinhala had cauasian features & some sinhala very fair. so obviously north indian blood mixed with local tribes.
also the so called rodiya women were exceptionally fair, shapely & beautiful according to some explorers.
the old history tales of rodiyas being descendants of banished royal blood comes to mind.
poking fun at a guy who's missing his children is downright sadism.
StepTro@LNP wrote:
let us get the SAMS ready to shoot down VP
Soosai --- hello how are you?
Pottu --- you will die and will be reborn
All others -- you are the future leaders of North ----
at the snapped cord - await the DI-ASS pora
i love this GAME ---
another at least 3000 more of LTTE have to die it is coming and mop ups will be completed soon....
--------------------
Note that this guy first wrote about Pottu capture.
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Ali,
Those air strips were built by LTTE for "future disposal".
They seized all chances of having importations (air crafts) since the EU ban.
Arms shipments via air crafts were considered viable till recently. The only patronage for LTTE came from North Korea.
There was reasonable speculation of Victor Bout being involved in the arms smuggling network of LTTE. There is nothing to worry now though, as he was arrested in Bangkok last year. He was mainly involved with AL-Qaeda, which apparently led to his arrest.
It will be really healthy for the public not to bring up the "Pottu" incident till the government makes a claim.
"Mahens" columns are not as silly as his posts!
Observer,
Yes! Rathmalana runway is close to 1800m.
The runway which was discovered north of Mulliyaweli is spoken to be 2500m.
Vajira ..
Thx mate . form what I am reading about this bout character he does not care who as long as he is paid . He has delivered to both the taliban and the northen Alliance , and even deliver to the US armed forces in Iraq and KBR . He as working with KBR And defence dept in US while he was being investigated by the state dept . He has delivered to both sides of african conflicts too. I did not know he as arrested . Which is good news .
Wow Vajira .. I am surprised .. Not even some higher ups in the Military seem to know . wow
""wijayapala said...
....Actually both N. & S. Indians know next to nothing about Sri Lanka. 99% of them would not be able to find it on a map. They don't know about a people called "Sinhalese" or that there is Buddhism in SL""
99% ??
That is highly exaggerated. How did you arrive at 99%??
At least because of cricket a great majority of Indians will know about Sri Lanka.
Due to the LTTE terrorist problem, a good percentage of Indians, including a great majority of Indian Tamils, will be aware of Tamils and Sinhalese in Sri Lanka.
Definitely more than 1% will know about Buddhism in Sri Lanka. Many Indians may be poor and uneducated, but the are not totally ignorant!
Bro Rana,
Whoo Haa...that song was enough to bring me back from self imposed exile from this blog.....not that I was any use here:))
Wow man....that's talent... I really enjoyed listening to that song....in fact I ripped it off the web and now its in my Ipod.
You are one lucky father to have such talented daughters and Im happy for you man.....like always Good SL talent is better appreciated out of SL.... :(
I'm not the typical Amaradewa type (I'm from a different vintage), but his "Nim Him Sevva" song was something I liked ....and this version is even better.
As for demeaning comments which is really uncalled for....Rana mate....please ignore them...."OYA AMMAGE REDDE PATALICHA SHUKRANU WALIN JATHAKA WECHCHA H_TTHIGE puthala kiyana deval ganang ganna epa BRO....Munge Seeyala langadi gas walin bahala thiyenne". Anybody who's born of a decent mother will not make such thuppahi remarks.
Oops sorry patriots ....for abusing the this Defense ONLY blog to appreciate Sri Lankan talent.
Bro Rover,
Thanks for highlighting this song man....I'm sure all Sri Lankans who are not tone deaf will appreciate this quality piece of work.
By the way being a 4X4 guy are you making plans to take your Tatra from Dondra to Pedro point? I wish I'm in Sri Lanka to undertake such journey in the near future. Hope you can make it. Remember we were talking about 4X4ing in Kili some time back.
Cheers All & God Speed
Apino
You said: "Anybody who's born of a decent mother will not make such thuppahi remarks."
It is only thuppahi that put lives and reputations of their daughters at risk.
Bro Pottu,
I can comprehend your point of view. But don't wish to elaborate further.....but if I may humbly request use your good energies/God or Karma given talents to take down Peelamist....and I see you doing that. Thanks for that. I rest my case Bro.
Cheers Wewa and I leave you in peace
Over and out for a long time
BTW
The government is seeking foreign investors to build a shipyard for the Hambantota port. The shipyard being envisioned will be able to build ships upto 450 meters long.
Hopefully if this project goes through, we will be able to build ships for the navy.
Guys.. let not argue over this... The songs are amazing, I ve searched them all and listened, and i can see why RANA is so proud even to tell about it in this blog.
But thats it. it didnt harm anybody or took this blog in different direction. so forget about all that if you like music enjoy those songs if not just ignore.
I guess we really do miss monkeys now they are not visiting this blog much... :)
Pressure Meter was "Off the Chart". SO I could not read, But I just managed to read in the morning.
VP's Pressure 170 132
VP's Weight 145 KG
Ampalavanpokkanai 01 KM
Chalai 01 KM
Chilarattai 01 KM
Chu'ndikku'lam 01 KM
Kalmadu 01 KM
Kevil 01 KM
Mamulai 01 KM
Masar 01 KM
Mullativu 0.5 KM
Punnainiravi 01 KM
Puththukudirippu 01 KM
Tharmapuram 01 KM
Vaddakkachchi 0.5 KM
Vannankulam 01 KM
Vellamullivaikal 01 KM
Vellikandal 01 KM
Defensewire
You said one Major died in Palai.
But news today revealed it as Colonel and one of the top officer in Heroic Sri lankan Armed Forecs.
I salute this hero who sacrificed his life to save future genaration.
May you attain Nibbana.
Sunflower
It was Major and promoted after the death
Rana,
Can you propose me one of your daughter.
I am in the dreamland now thinking about her forgetting singala army catch me.
If I caught I catch you later.
Is there any news about Puuuttu Amma?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILf8nn5E94s&feature=channel_page
VP to be surrenderd???
Funny clip..... (Watch all)
Situation right now
Vesaballa's Pressure 175 141
Vesaballa's Weight 144 KG
Ampalavanpokkanai 01 KM
Chalai 01 KM
Chilarattai 01 KM
Chu'ndikku'lam 01 KM
Dharmapuram 01 KM
Kalmadu 01 KM
Kevil 01 KM
Mamulai 01 KM
Masar 01 KM
Mullativu 0.5 KM
Punnainiravi 01 KM
Puththukudirippu 01 KM
Tharmapuram 01 KM
Vaddakkachchi 0.5 KM
Vannankulam 01 KM
Vellamullivaikal 01 KM
Vellikandal 01 KM
Vetthalaikarnni, 01 KM
Vishwamadu 01 KM
Peter
Do not worry about your I Kissing KM to Killi.
You knew only Killi. I know a lot of places.
If possible find out the distance to Praba's Asshole
A UNP Kotte Municipal Council member has been arrested on suspicion by the Police in connection with the recent attack on MTV/ MBC network at Depanama, Pannipitiya, inflicting heavy damages to the buildings and equipment there, running into hundreds of millions of rupees, and threatening its staff.
see http://www.nation.lk/2009/01/11/news9.htm
Sujeewa Kokawala said...
[Bhairav;
Before I go into the long reply to you, let me tell you a story told by a wanni tamil to me. ]
Bravo, Sujeewa!
You really set him straight on all of his assertions!
""Lanka Weeps said...
Hello armchair warriors,
Now that Mahinda is in charge of the media, and after the fall of Kili and Paranthan, Sirasa has been attacked and Lasantha W. has been killed. I wonder who is next in line for assassination when Elephant Pass falls?
It won't be Prabha.""
Obviously!
Elephant Pass has already fallen you moron!!!
Lasantha murder and attack on MTV took the shine off the EP victory for Government. This was perhaps the objective of the usual suspects. The reason why the govt is vulnerable for this type of exploitation is however their own fault. Had there been no Mervin Silva's or Berty whoever given protection by the regime, no one will think the govt is capable of such an atrocity.
Patriots,
Iqbal Athas aka MIA of Sundaytimes shame has not published his column this week. It is rumored that his column template which typically says the following has become unusable even in front of the stupidest Sri Lankans like UNP joker wing led by Ranil W.
1)LTTE is invincible.
2)Mr. Prabakarn is the greatest warrior the world has ever seen.
3)SL forces can't do a thing.
4)Even though SLA came this far, which could have been a piece of cake for LTTE, SLA can not move inch more forward.
Since he is incapable of changing the template, he has applied to the fill the currently vacant editor post of a Colombo based tabloid.
6th TF will join the party soon.
-SLBC
/Moshe Dyan said...
i feel pity for that degamboda bastard. once we confronted two guys mugging a group of gals. we beat them up and one bugger pleaded that he has family, kids, xmas, blah, blah. so we stopped bashing him. i went to his place and saw the mess. we gave some bucks and a year later also i visited them with presents.
if these jokers can't take it, why the fcuk they pick up fights? bloody mutts./
Pity?
What for?
What do you trying to say?
Check this story on 11/01/2009
http://lakbima.lk/news/news1.htm
Now what do you say?
ReallyCold,
"Buddhism will not disappear from the world. It can disappear from certain countries or cultures."
If Theravada Buddhism, the oldest continuing tradition of Buddhism in the world had disappeared from Sri Lanka anytime before the 12th century (when it spread to SE Asia), it would have been lost forever.
My comment at The Economist
[Pasam says:[Gaza and Eelam episodes were organised by the dying President of the USA and the dying Prime Minister of India to hand ovr a "mission accomplished" handing over synopsis to their successors but Reality will have another handing over synopsis. What the Sinhala Buddhist Chauvinists are doing is preparing REVISED NEW EDITION of the Mahavansa as they want their future generation to be much more blind and deaf than themselves.]
This is a typical example of the Tamil LTTE supporters mindset. Make outrageous accusations, unsupported by any facts, that defy credibility, allocate fault to everyone else in the world except themselves. This is a permanent victimhood that they hope to use in manipulating world public opinion; it has worked so far, but no more!
Any minority in any country that undermines the majority people of that country will earn their wrath. Instead, wise people make the cause,the goals and the principles of the majority their own, assuring themselves a secure place in that society. In the US, people from all over the world come, and become a part of the American fabric by accepting the American ideal. In this largely immigrant built country, there are no Eelams for every ethnic community, and we prosper together! This is not to say that ethnic diversity is wiped out; it exists in its proper space, in the private lives of people, providing color to the rich mosaic that is America. LTTE supporters should learn from this shining example.
I urge the LTTE supporters in the Tamil Diaspora and elsewhere, to GIVE UP their racist apartheid dreams, and secure their place of honor as equal citizens with equal rights, no more and no less, in the Ratna Dipa, Janma Bhumi, your motherland of Sri Lanka.]
"The Buddhist intellectual contribution that you get from Google certainly not come from India. Fraction of that come from Sri Lanka. The major contribution is seen from Thailand."
Anyone who wants to gain a serious knowledge of Buddhism probably will look someplace other than Google.
Rover,
"It may have been harder for Buddhism to get a strong foot hold in India as an older and a very organized religion (Hinduism) was already practiced by the elites and others there."
Buddhism most certainly had taken a strong foothold in India from the time of Emperor Asoka. The archeological evidence demonstrates that it had taken root in the north, east, south, and west of the subcontinent. That is what makes the mystery of its utter disappearance (the Buddhism currently in India is a rediscovery) very relevant.
Hinduism is not a very organized or even somewhat organized belief system. There is no equivalent of the Sangha or the Vinaya, more or less a consolidated Doctrine that all Hindus follow.
Both the strength and weakness of Hinduism is its strong cultural element. Hinduism could never be wiped out of India by Islam because it was rooted in culture. Even in Sri Lanka, we have a caste system (although much weaker than the Hindus') and Hindu gods are worshipped (as guardian deities).
Buddhism by contrast is not culture-specific. This is why unlike Hinduism, it had spread all over Asia.
Let this be a lesson for all those who believed LTTDumbPussy everytime they fart and write up a moda story
Pottu Amman not in custody
By Deshamithra Wickramasinghe
Military spokesman Brigadier Udaya Nanayakkara yesterday denied rumours that Pottu Amman, head of LTTE intelligence wing, had turned himself in and been taken into custody by the security forces .
On Friday, it was reported that Pottu Amman had handed himself over to the Special Forces at an undisclosed location. Since joining the LTTE in 1981, Amman had masterminded many attacks against the government and civilians.
With the capture of Killinochchi and Elephant Pass LTTE controlled territory has now been limited to only a 40 square km area. Brigadier Udaya Nanayakkara added that only 10 LTTE cardres have been captured from the Killinochchi area. He stated that no cardres have been captured from Elephant Pass so far.
JWick,
"That is highly exaggerated. How did you arrive at 99%??"
Experience.
"Due to the LTTE terrorist problem, a good percentage of Indians, including a great majority of Indian Tamils, will be aware of Tamils and Sinhalese in Sri Lanka."
That is what I had expected, until I went to Tamil Nadu, lived there for a few months and saw how little they knew.
@wijayapala
"Buddhism by contrast is not culture-specific. This is why unlike Hinduism, it had spread all over Asia."
I agree, the Buddhist philosophy isn't culture specific.
However people have adapted Buddhism into their culture and created Buddhist based cultures. There is no wisdom in these cultures.
For example, the local temple held a baila concert to raise funds for it. When I asked the monk why is it harder to sell Dhamma compared to Baila, I was virtually asked not to come to the temple calling me an extremist.
Now the Baila temple offers thabla classes. That is how we have culturalized the (our version) Buddhism.
@ wijayapala
"Anyone who wants to gain a serious knowledge of Buddhism probably will look someplace other than Google."
What about youtube? :)
Hay, you actually can listen to good dhamma talks.
@wijayapala
" If Theravada Buddhism, the oldest continuing tradition of Buddhism in the world had disappeared from Sri Lanka anytime before the 12th century (when it spread to SE Asia), it would have been lost forever."
I was under the impression that it vanished (upasampada tradition) and had to be brought back in from Burma or somewhere.
Just to entertain bloggers here during down times.
Sinhabhu - Disney Lion King version
Sorry, no gun shots or dead bodies are here and therefore the entertainment value may be limited for our Classical Sinhalese song listeners.
mung.. sinhayaata bayai thangachchiyaee...
i'm afraid of the lion.. nangiyaaeee
Guys my gut feeling is that we won't get another post until the mist clouds are officially cleared by MOD. DW shows his quality here by staying silent on a moment when that matters.
JUSTICE IS SERVED FOR ALL THE BLOOD LOST AT EPS PREVIOUSLY!!!
Pottu Amman not in custody
By Deshamithra Wickramasinghe
Military spokesman Brigadier Udaya Nanayakkara yesterday denied rumours that Pottu Amman, head of LTTE intelligence wing, had turned himself in and been taken into custody by the security forces.
On Friday, it was reported that Pottu Amman had handed himself over to the Special Forces at an undisclosed location. Since joining the LTTE in 1981, Amman had masterminded many attacks against the government and civilians.
With the capture of Killinochchi and Elephant Pass LTTE controlled territory has now been limited to only a 40 square km area. Brigadier Udaya Nanayakkara added that only 10 LTTE cardres have been captured from the Killinochchi area. He stated that no cardres have been captured from Elephant Pass so far.
It never ceases to surprise me just how people fail to see facts even when the writing is on the wall.
The war for eelam ended long ago, when India told the US that they will never allow it to happen. From there on, it was a matter of time until the SLDF re-built its capabilities and waited patiently for the very predictable behaviour of the LTTE, adequate provokations.
The rest is history and in terms of secessioanist wars, will rank alongside the Russian success in Chechnya. Also re-written is the book on counter-terror; it went from 'Can't do' to 'Can Do' militarily.
That's a big change, and the business of terrorism is now proven to be a curable illness. Simply carry a big stick and hit hard enough.
Endgame is here..
Aah..they must be still turning the cork screw deep inside pottu's ass, and as you know, the guy is a treasure trove of information..
It's called 'debriefing' but those people who don't like democratic ways of dealing with bad guys call them 'interrogation'..
TS,
If Pottu is captured, there is no absolute need at all or us to know about it, as long as enough information is extracted and he is given a chance to see Eelam. That is my opinion.
Dear Sam Perera,
What is your problem? Seriously what is your problem with me?
The situation report by the regular contributor was not issued on this week. This has happened before. It is not the first time.
Instead of looking into others' work why can't you contribute something meaningful.
I can see a general improvement of insight into military matters in the forum. Bloggers like Ananda, Sujiva, Moshe, Rover, Tropical Storm and a few others have shown quite a good understanding of military matters. This is not to say they are experts, far from it. But their insight is significant despite lack of information.
They can look forward to a comprehensive technical analysis of the complete war soon. It is also important to appreciate the fact that this war is not over yet. LTTE can stage a resurgent comeback any time. This may not reverse victories in the battlefield but can seriously affect the will to fight.
Have a nice day.
Hye Apino, Bro,
Nice comment.
So nice to see you after sometime. Thought you had left for good! Missed your nifty comments and some of the bright ideas...
Anyway, guess you have been ardently following what has been going on. There is a lot of speculation as to what is going on with surrendering and defection of senior LTTE leaders ect. ect., which I don't like to comment on. Anyway, we are waiting for the official version of what is going on, so that we can continue our discussion.
Anyway, good that you liked those songs. What I appreciated mostly was not really the song, but the voice, and their potential to sing really nice songs. It will be a totally different and new voice for Sri Lankans (and dare I say Indians as well).
Yes, we should be able to drive from Point Dondra to Pedro now. In a Tatra!? That would turn some heads! The cleared west coast is fabulous for 4x4, with a lot of dunes ect..The only eye sore will be the Mahaveer cemeteries, well, someone will do something about those; just a stroll in the park with a CAT DR9 should do it.
# Freedom day at Kilinochchi
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MR should give her a chance.
“My only wish is to visit Alimankada and see the LTTE bulldozer my son destroyed,” says 61-year-old Y. L. Juliet, the mother of Army Corporal Gamini Kularathne, better known as Hasalaka Weeraya, who, in 1991, sacrificed his life to save his comrades by attacking an explosives-laden bulldozer driven by an LTTE suicide cadre in Elephant Pass.
-- Hasalaka hero's mother
(thank you defencecolumn)
MIA the nitwit,
To begin with, I don't claim that I am a defence analyst. Most of the bloggers you mentioned do not claim to be defence analysts either. You seem not to be capable of understanding the difference between an enthusiast and an analyst. Your fake and biased defence analysis problem is summarized in your template. How are your other problems with imaginary stories? You need to fess up to your fake stories including "Indira Radar." Until then, your credibility will be questioned in the same way you question others. Learn to live with it like the way you boasted the other day
Patriots,
A poem for thee.
"Prabhakaran's Wail"
Eelam is a dead concept
As dead as dead can be,
First it killed my followers
Now it's killing me!
(Presented with profuse
apologies to the Latin teacher
of my vanished childhood.)
Defence wire what happened i thought the 58 was'nt supposed to link up with the 53/55 divs.?!
WHAT HAPPENED ?
also why is the 55 not moving on the nagar kovil front?
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