After laying siege to Mulaitivu from 3 different areas, the 59 Division finally entered Mulaitivu, a small island-like area across the Nanthikandal lagoon. The LTTE had started vacating the area prior to this.
The delay experienced in entering Mulaitivu was to avoid losses in open lagoon. By last evening, Mulaitivu was completely under seige from the south and east, except from the north. 59 and 55 Divisions, who were expecting to jointly take Mulaitivu could not do so as the 55 was held up by some resistance further north.
But the linkup between the 59 and the 55 is inevitable as the 55 marches beyond Chalai and finally reaches the Nanthikandal lagoon. With this, the two divisions will turn eastward now becoming the first divisions to do so in this war as the Commander's plan to get the Tigers boxed-in in the middle gradually becomes a reality.
One avenue of approach would march along the A-35 as the uncleared areas get sandwiched by the 58, 55, 59, TF 2, 3 and 4 while the 57 prepares to hold down and secure Kilinochchi to welcome the trapped civilians.
DW
Sunday, January 25, 2009
Mullaittivu Has Fallen
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Again you got the same pain in the ASS that of VP's
Ask LTTE to release civilian and UN official to move to GOSL control areas.
Jay said...
"And of course, the other choice for the Sinhalese is to continue with their hegemony, throwing mere crumbs from the table at the minorities – an exhausted strategy that is guaranteed to end-up in the eventual bifurcation of the Sri Lankan nation."
I hope you are not advocating devolution of power to ethnic regions, as the means by which Sri Lanka should give "more than crumbs" to the Tamil community. Please correct me if I have misunderstood you.
Let us not regress towards that discredited idea that was at the root of this entire conflict.
The Tamil community should be treated the same as everyone else, NO MORE, NO LESS. No special regions in the North and the East as their "ethnically dominant" regions. Oh no! Not Again!
We should move away from that whole discredited concept of "devolution of power to ethnicity-based regions" altogether. No special rights for any person anywhere in the country.
That means, we have to promote a single Sri Lankan identity, one country, one people, equal rights and equal responsibilities for all. Equal rights must be accompanied by Equal Responsibilities for protecting the country, all strictly enforced under the law.
The primary means of doing this is by promoting ethnic integration, by ensuring that the same mix of people live, work and learn everywhere in the country, in intimate contact with each other to foster empathy. This will completely destroy the basis of future demands for an Eelam in the north and East, or in the Hill Country.
Let us not regress to the bad old concepts of the past, advocated by the rabble-rousers like Chelvanayakam, acted upon by monsters like Velupillai Prabhakaran, imposed on Sri Lanka by India egged on by the racist rabble-rousers of Tamil Nadu, who can hardly maintain communal harmony even in their own country!
Let us not become addle-pated "Upasakayas" again and yield to the racist Tamil separatists in PEACE, what they have failed to win in WAR!
Let us not raise their hopes that they can do that us again, what they have done in the last 61 years!
Oh No! NEVER AGAIN!
Hey Swranajith Udana & Rana,
Great to see all of us together celebrating this victory!
It seems Peter had some fond memories of Mullaitivu. I look forward to getting some fond memories of my own there pretty soon.
"Until next major development, this maybe my last post for a while. I hope that (next major development) will come soon."
Hopefully that next major development will be Thalaivar's head on a stick, or better yet capturing him alive and watch Peter & Co crap in their pants.
Anyway thanks for the kind words, and I look forward to the final end of the LTTE.
Soosai captured?
Hi Peter
Did you find any parking for your DICK?
TropicalStorm
"Soosai captured?"
Where did you get the info?
Bhairav,
"but strategic location of SL made the regional powers of South Asia to approve the slow pace of Tamil genocide in SL, in order to be an ally of Srilankan government, so that one can get the foot hold of Srilankan sea port or oil exploration projects on the expense of Tamils in SL."
Only God can cure you of hare-brained Eelamist thinking. SL has no oil to exploit, and the US already has a presence at Diego Garcia.
The world is silently watching because the LTTE isn't worth saving and everyone will be delighted when it's gone. Even if the SLA kills every single Tamil in Mullaitivu (and not one single human rights organization has accepted your claims that the SLA is targeting civilians), it won't spell the end of the SL Tamils.
What you should be upset about is the fact that the LTTE supporters in western countries who were all screaming for war in 2005-6 didn't give a shit what would happen to the Tamils in SL. They saw the whole thing like a cricket match. You know exactly what I'm talking about. They didn't expect things to turn out like this and now they're either shitting in their pants or like peter they're going loony.
If you're going to wait for God to fix things, you might as well not post here and give the "patriots" something to laugh about. Why don't you instead figure out what your next step will be?
has anyone seen this video,
http://jp.youtube.com/watch?v=RQeZtmPTnW8&NR=1
I think he is the soldier captured by LTTE terrorists from muhamale,
Recently a soldier was released from uncleared area through ICRC.
was it him? has anyone know about this?
Tamil Nut 24x7 lies service:
The Sri Lankan military is testing the breaking point of the people.
The formula to achieve the breaking point of terrorists is:
8 SLA crack divisions * MBRLs * Artillery * Mig-27s * MI-24s * FACs * Offshore Patrol Vessels * Gun Boats * Rapid Action Boat Squadrons * Special Boat Squadrons = CRACK!
Cheers!
It should be a fact that he was forced to read out his words, as he clearly appears to be looking in one direction while he is speaking.
May the Noble Tripple Gem bless our brave hearts.
[Recently a soldier was released from uncleared area through ICRC.
was it him? has anyone know about this?]
koombiya,
Released POW was different one than the one on this Youtube link. I believe the one released was captured from the Murasumoodai(Kilinochchi) battle.
Moshe Dayan said...
if this goes unchecked, they may even have independant connections with tamil madu soon!!!
Yes. It is as if every politician has a right to undertake foreign policy and enter into international agreements!
Hi guys,
another update hah..
everytghing chaged..now for srilanka change has came and we need to capitalise on it..
war field heat up last few days for only for you
TAF get in to action last week and tried to destroy Dwora. it has flyed mulathiv sea over 10 minutes and disapperaed.MI thinks they have one strip located in deep mulathive.it is true we have lost 11 valiant men in that colombo made dwora.we have two worries one is the men we lost and the second one is the coupling system we used for this dwaora ,,which has same as feature with israel built one.16c.these things can haapend we are in a war which against one of the best terrerist org.
i want to tell you siucide girl which came to op is heely beautifull ..she like a actress..and shes a captain who has 17 body guars.
for the first time in history each unit now hear each other fire power.it is an unbelivable feeling and it makes us proud too.this week we may have a first defection 3 people and it will be the end.
now again people in colombo,kandy and galle please be vigilant they have nothing tio loose but we have lot.i have lot to say but no time
hey rana,moshe what happend to AGG
Ananda-USA and Moshe,
"if this goes unchecked, they may even have independant connections with tamil madu soon!!!
Yes. It is as if every politician has a right to undertake foreign policy and enter into international agreements!"
I certainly agree with you that this shall not go unchecked. However, as the CM of one province, we should always help him to bring more investments and wealth in to the Eastern Province and to the country. Sri Lankans of the East, led by Vinayamurty Muralidaran and Sivanesathurai Chandrikanth have openly stated that they are faithful to Sri Lanka. Therefore, we have to be very sensitive to their political ambitions that is legitimate withing a united Sri Lankan. We should take our best effort to build a trusted relationship with our peaceful Tamil brothers. While we maintain a strong military that can stand against many threats, we shall be helpful to peace loving Tamil Sri Lankans in every possible way. This is a fine line we have to walk with tact and diplomacy. Never forget that our LRRP teams are full of Tamil Sri Lankans.
On a side note, I hope that the government will punish the Udugampola bastard brothers for crimes they have committed against against bravest soldier of Sri Lanka, specially the Tamil Sri Lankan soldiers. We need to avenge their deaths somehow. These unsung heroes must be honored by taking care of their families. They played such an important role in turning the tide of war in our favor.
Motto of the Sri Lanka Army
is the Latin phrase:
"Pro Patria"
"For Country"
In the poem Odes the Roman poet Horace famously wrote:
"Dulce et Decorum Pro Patria Mori"
It is Sweet and Fitting to Die for One's Own Country
But, from my own student days in Sri Lanka, I recall, the toast:
"Dulce et decorum est pro patria mori,
sed dulcius pro patria vivere,
et dulcissimum pro patria bibere. Ergo, bibamus pro salute patriae"
"It is sweet to die for the homeland,
but it is sweeter to live for the homeland,
and the sweetest to drink for it. Therefore, let us drink to the health of the homeland."
ravana,
"i want to tell you siucide girl which came to op is heely beautifull ..she like a actress..and shes a captain who has 17 body guars.
for the first time in history each unit now hear each other fire power.it is an unbelivable feeling and it makes us proud too.this week we may have a first defection 3 people and it will be the end."
Can you please tell us why we have a LTTE suicide bomber with 17 body guards in our main operations room?
! PLEASE STOP THE WAR !
!! PLEASE PLEASE STOP KILLING CIVILIANS !!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQ-B8_mUdKg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mURM1dvwmMs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgpLNh93ueI
/ Civilian said...
! PLEASE STOP THE WAR !
!! PLEASE PLEASE STOP KILLING CIVILIANS !!/
VP doesn't read this blog.
Civilian the LTTE Terrorist,
Lets see if you get this.
(1) The Government of Sri Lanka is elected by the people of Sri Lanka to steer and safeguard the nation by the people of Sri Lanka.
(2) Sri Lanka is faced with the gravest threat faced by our nation in modern times.
(3) The armed forces of Sri Lanka are entrusted by the GOSL to eliminate the the threat against sovereignty of the nation.
(4) It is with in legitimate powers of a nation to use military force to eliminate such threats.
On the other hand, LTTE is a banned terrorist group around the world. You hold civilians by force as human shield. Your rightful place is the unmarked graves reserved for faceless terrorists. Please be prepared for destiny which may come any time in you way.
Buddha will be proud of you
Sam Perera said...
This is a fine line we have to walk with tact and diplomacy.
Yes, we do have to walk a fine line, but too fine would lack the necessary clarity. You see, this is just the thin end of the wedge being inserted into the crack again; without a clear understanding and enforcement of roles, the wedge will expand in time.
This was the way the NGOs, INGOs infiltrated Sri Lanka, bit by bit, whent completely out of control with sub-national groups asserting self-determination and freedom from oversight, until the GOSL was so wrapped up in the details that the view of the forest was lost. The forest was, the growth of a massive foreign network affiliated with a sub-national group that was entirely beyond the control of the GOSL.
In these matters, everyone should go through the GOSL, and undertake their activities with the approval and under the oversight of the GOSL. Not as independent agents.
It was not too long ago, that the TNA was doing this, Catholic Priests supporting the LTTE were doing it, opposition MPs hoping to undermine the GOSL were doing it.
No. There has to be a clear understanding, that the ELECTED GOVT is the entity solely responsible for these external interactions. All other sub-national entities MUST DERIVE THEIR AUTHORITY FROM THE GOSL, and operate under strict GOSL oversight.
Otherwise, everybody conducts foreign policy, the GOSL is held responsible but has no control to ensure that the nation is not being gradually undermined, and the nation and the people suffer the repercussions arising from it.
Ravana Machan ..
what do you mean by coupling system ?
Rana
I am not a celebrating kind of a guy. We defeated the enemy, there are no winners in the war.
[Rana said...
Amma Gahai, mayil Rawana, Wijayapala, Really cold, Saman, Puran Appu,
Mates! where are you! Why hiding after winning Mulatieu!!
Come at once to enjoy our VICTORY, bros!!!]
'DMK council will meet before Feb 15 to decide on Sri Lanka issue'
http://www.hindu.com/2009/01/26/stories/2009012650490700.html
To hold the Post-mortem of the LTTE?
Truth about the SLA deaths by flooding
I dont believe the report of 5000 army being killed because of bund blast.
but a separate report on 700 SL army killed composed by reliable sources at tamilnet is very believable. Its impossible that SL army has zero casualties when the bund was blasted and the water was slowly pouring eventually making up a 25 foot wave.
I have sources in colombo who saw the wave from that far away, thats how big the wave was.
Rajapaksa invites Karunanidhi to visit Jaffna, Vanni, to advise Tigers to free human shield
Any comments?
Oh wait wait
Is Peter Pan from Never Land now crying to the faries in the forest, you know a few years back how the police got rid of the underworld, they said they will give them 10 seconds to get out of view, and they shot them one by one on the back, the same should happen to the fat pig, except dude, he cant run..democracy, it was a hypocracy, collecting money from people based on taxation.look dude, simple fact is, all you diaspora have being paying for the suffering of the tamil population at home, making them stand up by force, handing them a t56 and sending them to battle, you were sending them to there death, you are the only people responsible for the death of so many in this war, paying money over there, it was like u sending people into hithlers chlorine chambers, you just escalated this catastrophey
/I dont believe the report of 5000 army being killed because of bund blast.
but a separate report on 700 SL army killed composed by reliable sources at tamilnet is very believable./
Ha Ha I just can't understand why our diasspora like to believe 700 SLA killed and not 5000 SLA killed.. interesting..
last post from the fake bhairav.
---cheers
Puthukuduiruppu to fall soon,
The LTTE is also on the verge of losing Puthukuduiruppu junction and the road stretch of the A-35 between Visuamadu general area and Puthukuduiruppu by yesterday evening as troops attached to Task Force II, Task Force III and Task Force IV were poised to capture the road further confining the Tiger cadres to North of the Puthukuduiruppu and Vishuamadu areas with six offensive Divisions surrounding this territory from the West, South and East as of last evening.
Daily News
challai town also under heavy gun attack..
multiple 122mm MBRL salvos being dispatched
Thanks duzz.
55 was to speed up their push to seal it off.
Moshe,
I hope that you are very satisfied with SLAF CAS these days. I believe that their performance is outstanding these days. If we had SLAF in action like this since the beginning, we could have saved lots of our brave heart lives. I keep my fingers crossed and pray every day that our men and women of the forces will comeback unscathed in every combat mission.
With the capture of Mullaitivu which was famous as one of the strongest Sea Tiger bases, the LTTE has now been confined to 280 square Kilometres of territory in the Puthukuduiruppu and Visuamadu general areas which are also under immense pressure of the Security Forces by yesterday evening.
Dear chaps, do you think 280 square Kilometers is enough to set down Velu's fat posterior? He must be resting his massive behind on those 200,000 civilians. Poor chaps must be suffocating to death.
Cheers!
speculating about capture of little villages like mullativu is one thing but dont say you have puthukudduyiruppu. Its the new head quarters of eelam. its heavily booby trapped. at least 700 army has to fall to get it, even then it'll be just the land.
last post is from the fake bhairav.
I guess these fakes have no life at all.
Its hard out here for a Terrorist (in Sri Lanka).
Inspired by the Oscar winning song 'Its Hard Out Here For A Pimp'.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvTD9Tma8R0
"Sri Lanka Air Force MI-24 Helicopter gunships have raided LTTE positions observed northeast of Visuamadukulam last afternoon, 25 January.
Air Force spokesperson, Wing Commander Janaka Nanayakkara, speaking to defence.lk said that air sorties were engaged around 4.30 PM to assist the ground troops of 57 Division on final phase of the offensive launched to liberate entire Wanni from terrorists.
The target was engaged accurately, spokesperson added."
Despite the fact that with heavy flooding :) I think 58 division is already engaging in Visuamadu area.
Bravo 58! (No wonder why monkeys are so much afraid of 58div :) )
Patriots,
Dynamic Resizing of LTTE Population Centers
PRE-CAPTURE:
1. Kilinochchi - Very Big city
2. Paranthan - Big town
3. Mullaitivu - Big city
4. Puthukkudyiruppu - Big city
5. Viswamadu - Big town
POST-CAPTURE:
1. Kilinochchi - Little town
2. Paranthan - Little hamlet
3. Mullaitivu - Little village
4. Puthukkudyiruppu - take a guess?
5. Viswamadu - take a guess?
[at least 700 army has to fall to get it, even then it'll be just the land.
]
Fully worth the price... every drop of the blood....
We shall exceed Velu's terror by 10000 times in order to beat the barbarian in his own game...
We will make sure your Elaam day dream continues... indeed as a daydream.
Now everyone seems to know who and what these Tamil terrorists are.
ravana,
Macho, so good to hear from you, mate.
Amma Gahai may be up to something naughty. You know What I mean! May be humping! humping!! and humping!!! LOL.
Come and see us again whenever you can and take care. We all are with you, mate.
Really Cold,
Bro, I didn't say celebrate, I just want to enjoy liberation of Mulatieu with my mates.
At least you raised your hand, thanks buddy!!!
Bhairav,
Enjoy mate, if you got a fake, you are a celebrity!!! Isn't it enough?
No matter which side you're on, you have got to admire the LTTE superior planning capabilities. Flooding then using sea tigers to wipe out ground troops was a gem!
It almost worked if it wasnt for the SL army destroying elite sea tiger boats. But with every setback we learn a little bit more.
Bhairav,
No offence mate!
//Flooding then using sea tigers to wipe out ground troops was a gem!//
Most stupid action to show the whole world how desperate and bankrupt they are!
//It almost worked//
In what way? it didn't do anything other than creating further misery for civilians!
Bhirav
Do not talk rubbish here like 700 moda chena boys dieing as I will…well let me tell you in Tamiz…un sooththula en poolu.
Silly bugger..that number is not 700 but 7000 so get your facts straight okay you koodhi payale.
rana
yes i agree, you really are quite dumb. a typical singalese modaya
Peter said...
Silly bugger..that number is not 700 but 7000 so get your facts straight okay you koodhi payale.
now you're being ridiculous
rana,
Those posts are work of fake bhairav.
cheers---
“fake bhairav” lolz…
Bhairav Tambi, pundek leh nandu kadikeh
LOL
Bhiarav
You are a nothing but another Dumb-Arse get it?
The Tamiz I learnt in school in Tamiz Naadu is not quite perfect now, but I say you should go eat unga aaya kuthi.
Fake Bhairav,
Tea Thanni kudu wanga, pundei!
rana,
do you agree with fake bhairav?
cheers---
Rana
Today where we go? Your room or my room? Either way, I will bring thaalathel okay.
Sujeewa,
how would you fee if WE started killing your civilians?
LTTE choose not to sink down to that level
cheers---
Sujeewa,
Correction: Terrorists are not civilians and civilians are potential terrorits, at least most of them.
"NAYINTA KIRI POWANA KOTA PARISSAM WENNA ONA"
floods subsidized quickly..
all the reports of 100s of casualties are fake. only a small portion of the bund was destroyed in the initial explosion. To create any kind of severe effect to the troops it has to be a major blast destroying a big part of the bund.. but that was not the case. its only a 5 sqkm tank.
and the 55th and 59th are engaging the bunkers along the east costline from challai to mula with MBRL and 152mm howitzers. The reason for that is to bring the SBS patrols very near to the shore and to destroy suicide boats hidden in the kadolana.
i think only 591 will continue along the shore and other brigades will concentrate on Puthu
Although I'm not too supportive of using fake ID's I cant help but laugh at the sarcastic posts of 'fake Bhairav'. The posts are quite akin to what the real Bahirav says but has tinge of sarcasm which Rana is not able to spot? That too is a bit funny dont you think?
:)
Bhirav Tambi,
Like these moda chena boy rana do to wijaypla, andher panniduven!
So do not talk anti-Tamizeezam rubbish here okay.
and rali Bhairav keeps posting 'the last post is not mine :)
Ha haa... sorry real Bhairav, I would have acutally felt sorry for you if you were not an LTTE goon
"floods subsidized quickly.."
who the fock says so?
My Thalaivar is still peeing in his panties.
Bhirav Tambi,
You anti-Thalaivar koodhi, you need to sathia moorthy naay poola.
"rana,do you agree with fake bhairav?"
this rana is the fake bhairav.
fuuk these fakes, they make life blady sick here.
Oh, I missed out on all the fun, had to attend to an unexpected assignment.
Anyway, again, well done boys. Sorry we didn't capture get many hardcore cadre. They left well before the army moved in fearing an entrapment from N , S and W.
Ananda-USA,
"The primary means of doing this is by promoting ethnic integration, by ensuring that the same mix of people live, work and learn everywhere in the country, in intimate contact with each other to foster empathy. This will completely destroy the basis of future demands for an Eelam in the north and East, or in the Hill Country."
Mate, care to elaborate how exactly this would be done?
Rana brother,
How are you doing?
What are we gonna do in few days time?
Excitement will be over....
i was attracted to this site for its quality defense related news.
while i sympathise wholeheartedly with the relatives, i too strongly believe that this is not the place to publish casualty figures as news items.
let the peelamists do it if they want & wank. they'll get a few free self ejaculations & scream in satisfaction! (like a dam bursting... ha ha ha!)
casualty figures serves no purpose other than to give false hope to peelamists & make the patriots mad. exactly what thalaivar pig does. ha ha ha!
the bravehearts joined the forces knowing fully well the brutality of their enemy & does not expect sympathy. all they expect from us is to help their families while their prepared to die for all of us. a much greater scarifice than what we make.
so let's help the forces in whichever way possible.
we're soon gonna wipe out this lunatic menace with their heroic sacrifices. nobody can stop us now.
so instead of getting mad let's celebrate!
cheers!
Rover
"Anyway, again, well done boys. Sorry we didn't capture get many hardcore cadre"
Fock you bugger.
We must not celebrate too much. These LTTE are also our brothers sisters get it arse hole?
Yes I do not favor violence but I think we must give these Tamil civilians (not LTTE) their tamil eelam nation and that is how we tamils can hope to have peace in Shri Lanka. Ooops, sorry, I meant to say we Singhalas. .well as you know I am also Tamilian..sort of..okay (yes I am proud to say my mom was a tamil hooker from Kotahena)
sam,
re: SLAF.
yes, mate. i'm very pleased with the SLAF for doing exactly what i wanted.
i was bitching all the time about it b4. i should be praising them in the same intensity now.
have written to MoD about my pleasure.
puraan appu
"Rana brother, How are you doing? What are we gonna do in few days time? Excitement will be over...."
Leave Rana to me okay. She is mine. I will make sure my Ranadevi has all da excitement she deserves.
Fakes are winning in the blog.. Ha Ha So funny..
So many tamils have perished that's why so many have called this a genocide.
seriously, tell me if you disagree
last post from the fake bhairav.
---cheers
Puran Appu,
Mate, excitment is going up all the way and climax is nearer.
Cheerup, bro.
See all diaspora zakkiliyas having high temperature and non stop Diarrhoea. Diarrhoea their knees are shaking and clicking together unaccountably.
SAM....
YOU MISSED BRIAN SENEVIRATNE
FEW MONTHS AGO I SAW AN E-MAIL THIS RAT HAD SENT TO ONE OF MY FRIENDS...!!! MOOOOO NAM THIYANNAMA WATINNE NATHI EKEK...!!! HE IS THE MOST ANTI SRI LANKAN LTTE MAGGOT I HAVE EVER SEEN...!!!
FAKE BHAIRAV SAID...
No matter which side you're on, you have got to admire the LTTE superior planning capabilities. Flooding then using sea tigers to wipe out ground troops was a gem!
It almost worked if it wasnt for the SL army destroying elite sea tiger boats. But with every setback we learn a little bit more.
HA HA HA....HOOOOOO
YOU LEARNED ONE THING....TO "WITHDRAW TACTICALLY"...!!!
YOU WILL END UP IN THE SEA...!!!
HA HA HA...HOOOOOOO
ANE GONO...!!!
We are witnessing history..! There is no time in the history that LTTE has been defeated into this level, mainly because all the early times, LTTE has not been this big.
Still the war is not over, and I really do not want to celebrate yet.
However, we need to seriously protect our waters. LTTE very well know that there is a Navy barricade along the North Eastern sea-bed.
Now we are hearing about boats landing in Rameswaram etc with Diving Gear inside the boats. These should be taken into consideration in very serious manner.
FAKE BHAIRAV....SAID
So many tamils have perished that's why so many have called this a genocide.
seriously, tell me if you disagree
MODAYA...FIRST GO AND LEARN THE MEANING OF "GENOCIDE"...!!!
KILLING TERRORISTS IS NOT GENOCIDE...!!!
WE WILL CONTINUE TO HUNT AND KILL ALL THE TERRORISTS...TERRORISM MUST BE ELIMINATED FROM THIS PLANET...!!!
WE WILL LIBERATE INNOCENT TAMILS FROM WHORE LORD VP...!!!
Me Paraya udabalagena kela gahanawa for minor personal gains!
What a sh*thead...!
http://www.tamilnet.com/art.html?catid=13&artid=28140
[[[But with every setback we learn a little bit more.]]]
the biggest lesson learnt -
TAMILS WILL NEVER GET EELAM!
VELLU BROTHER...
THANKS FOR THE DEFINITION ....!!!
Heh! Heh!, some of you can't figure out Sinhala archaeologist/historian from a Tamil. Good luck trying to figure out a Tamil from a Tamil terrorist.
Rana Bro,
knees are shaking and clicking together
I like that part.
My biggest worry now is the Civilians. Still we couldn't get them out. What do you think?
From the way LTTE is now (Wedi kaapu uro wage), they might kill a lot of them.
If they do the same thing to the other 2 tanks, it'll be a disaster.
Rover,
Who is the Sinhalese historian?
ROVER...
Heh! Heh!, some of you can't figure out Sinhala archaeologist/historian from a Tamil. Good luck trying to figure out a Tamil from a Tamil terrorist.
WHAT DO YOU MEAN...?
Sumanadasa Wijayapala - Initially he was a lecturer at Pera and then joined the Dept. of Archaelogy (he is a big guy there now). He also has done some work on the Neloithic man of Sri Lanka. His very few posts were enough for me to see that he was a patriotic Sinhalese, but people here, keep on attacking him, mostly for egotistical reason.
Some of his ideas are arguable (as most of ours are as well), so this is why I say all the time, analyze ideas without attacking the person.
Go to Asian tribune and read his discussion with that Fernando guy, and make your own conclusions.
See all the fakes.. this is what prompted me to write what I wrote.
Wijayapala, correct me if I erred.
I agree, somewhere you said, you should not have given up your identity (I wasn't sure if you were jocking)..... anyway, in my book, you haven't said anything "unpatriotic"!
I should have said his "His very few FIRST posts," instead of "His very few posts".
ROVER...
IS HE THE SAME WIJEYAPALA...???
THE THING IS ANYONE CAN CREATE AN ID...
rover,
if this w-pala is vesapala as i refer him, he must appreciate that his knowledge about military matters and NEW political matters is VERY VERY limited.
ALSO he should have learnt HOW TO KEEP HIS RESPECT.
he failed in both. some of his postings are disgraceful for a person of that standing.
IMOH he is an extreme racist, like brian seneviratna. honestly i see no difference between the two. only thing is vesa-pala is filthy.
i have never seen or heard of a lecturer using such filth as this scum does!! it may be a new low for them!!!
a national disgrace!
Ok, now I am going to be guilty of talking about a person, and not analyzing his ideas, but I guess, it is ok for once, as I am not trying to say anything bad.
Phantom-x,
"ROVER...
IS HE THE SAME WIJEYAPALA...???
THE THING IS ANYONE CAN CREATE AN ID..."
Sure, but the erudition that you see in the posts, makes me think that he is genuine.
Moshe,
Somewhat agree with you, on his reactionary nature. A long time ago, I said that we need to get the best out of him. Attack him, and he will retaliate (and I can assure you that many lecturers have a vocabulary that even a wrapper in NY will be proud of!). I tried to mend the bridges between several guys with him, but that didn't work out very well, so I have given up on that.
What is important for me, however, is his trait to make short work of Eelaamist argument using TRUTH. This is a trait that needs to be appreciated, without considering his disposition.
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Guys,
There is a rumor among the Tamils in Colombo that "4000+ army trapped by the LTTE".
No wonder why LTTE so mush strong when there are people like this.
Ninja explained it well
[So LTTE give them exactly what they like. When you are addicted to alcohol you love who will give you alcohol not the one advocate you to get rid of it. Same for diasspora addiction to peelaam.]
Mata harima dukai me minissu gana hithanakota..
Let me re-open that debate;
Fatpig in exile or buried?
One reason why I want Fatpig to live in exile is to make the following ppl worthy politicians for SL, instead of turning them potential white-van travelers.
- Pillayan
- Karuna
- Sangaree
- Possible defectors of Pussycats who plan to take part in SL politics [except Pottu who is always a white-van traveler]
These ppl will NEVER move for separatism if the arsehole is there holding the token of separation. [purely symbolic hold as he won't be able to walk out of dug hole in exile]
Killing Fatpig will release token,
which may come with a big diaspora price tag. It first comes as more power, autonomy, self-governance etc. A fool in above list may move to that initially peacefully. And when the conflicts start with center, all these sub-humans were taught [bar Sangaree] is to kill opponent.
So there will be Eelam war again.
As long as above possibility is there, any power sharing cannot stop war in future. And that is why I pay little interest to final political solution debates here.
Note that nobody wants a power-sharing, but everyone wants unitary power, we for one-SL, they for Eelam. Power sharing is a negotiated mid point not preferred by any.
Mangalya Goo Kata Erala.
Mulu Palathama Aapasu Ganda Gahanawa.
(Mangala has opened his shit mouth. The whole area is got bad smell).
Please read the following link.
http://www.tamilnet.com/art.html?catid=13&artid=28140
SLRocks,
I too can say after reading about 60-80% of Vijayapala's posts I cant find anything anti Sri Lankan. I remember once he said he was the Taraki on LA. I have read Taraki's posts on LA too and still didnt feel any anti Sri Lankan comments.
I do not agree with everything Wijayapala says, but I still do respect him cos he's one of the few people who post something really worth reading about.
I know i said bye 'once' before, but its hard to keep out of an interesting conversation :)
Rover,
I just wanted to convey my wishes for full-stop to this personal-attack/impersonation business and agree with your mature approach.
For too long these juveniles have spoilt the blog flow with unnecessasry personal attacks(when they cant beat via facts), and when personal attacks fail, resort to impersonation. I am sure we all know who the impersonators are( they are the ones using low language and/or clubbing together in mutual-support gangs).Their existance is a blot on Sri Lankas image to the world of literates.
Now that the conventional phase is almost over, its a given that Tigers can never regain static territory or warfare.It at most will be a disturbing presence in certain parts, which should not affect nationbuilding to too big an extent.Why dont the Sinhalese polity now make SL into a vibrant economy by tapping into the resources of the Tamil Diaspora? Initally it may not take off, but they will realise sooner than later that cooperation is better.SL can give them a supervised autonomy at a level higher than the 13th amendment( it has failed acceptance).Diaspora Tamils can be encouraged to investin the economy--if Sinhalese are fearful then perhaps a clause may be put wherein a % of the investment, say atleast 25%, is to be conditionally invested in non-Tamil areas? These measures would perhaps even act as a dampener of future muslim militancy?
It is easy to be carried away in the heat of ' victory '. But the iron of rebuilding should be struck when it is hot(now), not later.A nation cannot progress if a significant part of it is festering.
rover,
PLUS if he is what he says, he is a BIG TIME IDIOT to use his name in a public forum.
i have nothing personally against him. the biggest problem with him (apart from what i told already) is that he is a RACIST.
he is the one who introduced such terms as sinhala modayas, portugese bastards, etc.
don;t assume one as a patriot just because he has academic connections with SINHALA, SRI LANKA, etc.
e.g. prof. sucharitha gamlath, dr. brian seneviratna
anyway i'm wasting my time discussing about bloggers instead of military matters.
you are entitled to your view and i respect your view and also believe that EVERYONE has a hint of good in them EVEN HITLER!!!!
Hi I am compelled to come back, today itself.
Sumanadasa Wijayapala Namaskaram for your gusty standing.
At the beginning I felt very close to your ideas. I admire humanistic patriotism rather than tribalistic patriotism. I felt that you were an intelligent erudite. I do not think that (except for the fake Wijayapala) that you have chosen utter filth at all, but you did use a little some times.
With utmost respect I implore you to please do justice to your status of being able to stand as humanistic patriot. Please do not chase after other people for their perceived or real shortcoming. We all are full of our own short coming. When we participate in a debate it should not be the attitude that I know better than you and it should be the attitude that “please consider my ideas” This is not about ego, enhance our ego in our feeble minds. I agree with you that it is not being about our ego is also our silent ego. When one wants to attain Nibbana it is also about ego (look at the subject I). But it is a nice form of ego. Just because others are egotistic we do not have to take the same path to win. To seek winning is defeatism itself.
When I see someone else’s errors they (the errors) point out to my own errors, so this is an attempt personal therapy and purification. If it helps you then I am happy and it itself will be a therapy on me.
I appeal to others; you do not need to agree with him, but over the time he said so many things that we can learn from. Also over the time each of you might have said some thing that he can learn. I do not agree with him all the time. Every one of us thinks the wrong thing time to time; and right thing. Then what is right and wrong. Consider, several years back a Pluto was a planet and now it is not. Whatever the sayings of one of the most influential, intellectual giant Aristotle is now considered to be “false”. Only one who does not err in thinking is the one who is not thinking at all. Let us forgive each other and learn from each other when we are not deliberately harmful or misleading.
Namaskaram Wijayapala Namaskaram.
Rover said...
analyze ideas without attacking the person
My principle is simple: "Analyze ideas without attacking the person, and ignore both the person and their ideas if I judge their agendas to be inimical to the survival of Sri Lanka, if they persist in espousing such ideas."
We are not debating some abstract academic issue here, but the very survival of our country, our people and everything else that we hold dear. Some people's inimical agendas are obvious, those of others are more subtle and becomes clear only after some prodding.
Everybody is entitled to post their messages here; but no one is bound to support them, or encourage them by engaging them in debate.
Sujeewa,
" Note that nobody wants a power-sharing, but everyone wants unitary power, we for one-SL, they for Eelam. Power sharing is a negotiated mid point not preferred by any."
For both ethnicities, the moderates have to become stronger, then the need for power-sharing, will diminish with time. Govt. needs to make sure that any of the extremists don't become strong again; and the legislative allowance for this to happen should also be removed.
I don't think that unitary Sri Lanka is an extremist concept. It is a conservative concept, but this is ok. Extremist concept would be to say, Sri Lanka belongs to Sinhalese only and other ethnicities should live as sub-humans; or only the Sinhalese should live in Sri Lanka (just like VP said, that only Tamils who worship him should live in Eelam).
*On a related note I cannot help but foresee Fonseka as a future SL president, perhaps even the next?
* The only country where VP can find acceptance and safety is SA. Countries like Eritrea cannot resist extradition. Personally I think he will fight to the death if cornered, though one thought the same thing about Saddam.
* I also beleive like somebody above that flooding is a very good way of hiding buried weapons. The aircrafts would have been sunk in the sea if it came to that.
Rover,
I have read wijayapala's articles and I am communicating with him through emails. Even before, I knew him, I liked his writings. That is why I supported him. I got into trouble with Priyashantha, Sam Perera, Asithri and many others because I got wije's side.
I was not sure whether he was a Tamil or Sinhalese at the beginning, but who cares, what he writes is more important than the person. Even, if a Tamil could write like that I will love that person.
In my first email, I told him that don’t care his ethnicity, colour, religion or gender but I like your writing and extended my support to him.
He is not a racist that is all what I want from him. He is sympathetic towards Tamil peasants and me too.
Those who uttered so many filthy words to him will have to eat them one day. Attacking an honest scholar is something, I will not tolerate, anywhere, any time!!
rover,
a final remark on VP....
i'm VERY happy that the war didn't go his way but it went MY WAY, honestly. (there are plenty of examples)
i'm looking forward to a political solution that will ALSO not go his way but MY WAY.
this is the ULTIMATE value and relevance in a defence blog.
Puran Appu,
My brother, we are sinhalese,Probably the best warrior class in the world. Stand with our feet and face enemies without a blink. Have courage my brother, our boyz will over come all difficulties because brains behind them are genuinely marvellous and experts on what they are doing. Have faith on them, mate.
Immediately after the destruction of the tank bund, 53 division was deployed.
http://www.nation.lk/2009/01/25/news4.htm
Six SLA teams were caught in the floods.
http://www.divaina.com/2009/01/26/news02.html
Ananda-USA,
"My principle is simple: "Analyze ideas without attacking the person, and ignore both the person and their ideas if I judge their agendas to be inimical to the survival of Sri Lanka, if they persist in espousing such ideas."
Ignoring, without thinking and debating about inimical ideas that plague Sri Lanka, will only strengthen that lobby. We need to analyze and show, why terrorism is wrong. This is how we can garner larger support for our ideas.
"We are not debating some abstract academic issue here, but the very survival of our country, our people and everything else that we hold dear. Some people's inimical agendas are obvious, those of others are more subtle and becomes clear only after some prodding."
Wijayapala is not one of them though. This is what I believe, but you are perfectly free to have your own opinion.
" Everybody is entitled to post their messages here; but no one is bound to support them, or encourage them by engaging them in debate.
Yep. Except when some people actively emulate others in the hope of spreading dissent. I was merely giving an example to highlight this .
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Rana said...
Even, if a Tamil could write like that I will love that person.
]
Your first line suggests to me you are have a bit of racism in you :)
Sorry again folks.. I know I should have left the blog long before
Rover said...
Extremist concept would be to say, Sri Lanka belongs to Sinhalese only and other ethnicities should live as sub-humans; or only the Sinhalese should live in Sri Lanka (just like VP said, that only Tamils who worship him should live in Eelam).
Yes, that would be an extreme thing to say.
But, in over a year of posting at this blog, I have not seen any patriotic blogger taking such an extreme stand.
Show me a counterexample, if I am wrong!
Guys,
Check al jazeera news.mullative is the top story today on AJ and BBC terrorist organisation.
But best part is that ponna,lttp and ngo white cock sucker jehan p bastard's dream comments.
Have a look
Blistering barnacles,
He must be among top ten of the our hit list.
Karambaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
"we are sinhalese,Probably the best warrior class in the world."
a highly rhetorical statement:)
In hindsight, I would say, the LTTE military performance dwarfs that of the SLDF, pound for pound.But being politically blind, the 120-pound Tigers foolishly picked a fight with the 300-pound SL state and thus pummelled.
One more Clarification to support the meaning of Rana's statement (Yes, it could be racist, but in this context it is not, I believe.)
If Wijayapala is a Sinhalease person, then I admire him more for his principled stand on welfare of Tamil people and his
opposition to LTTE, its ruthlessnes and suicide killing.
If Wijyapala is a Tamil Person then I admire him more for his principled stand on welfare of Sinhalease people and his
opposition to LTTE, its ruthlessnes and suicide killing.
For any comments that is all what I have to say.
Thanks!
Swarnajith Udana
Rover said...
Ignoring, without thinking and debating about inimical ideas that plague Sri Lanka, will only strengthen that lobby. We need to analyze and show, why terrorism is wrong. This is how we can garner larger support for our ideas.
I didn't say without thinking; I said after analyzing and coming to a conclusion about the underlying agenda of the person. There is a point of diminishing returns banging your head against immovable objects. You end up just talking past each other; it soon reduces to an ego-driven argument with continually shifting premises you can't get them to hold on to, and a huge waste of time. Some people you can never convince, and it is futile to even try.
You soon begin to recognize those people, and conserve your time and effort by ignoring them. There are many more important things to do than to continue pointless debates.
See that I have opened a can of worms, sorry about the slow rate of response on my part, juggling several tasks.
Ananda,
"
Show me a counterexample, if I am wrong!"
No Tamils has said this as well. It does not mean, that some of the LTTE guys don't think that.
Whey I say "say", don't take it literary.
Gents,
Couldn't resist writing to another interesting discussion unfortunately not defence related again.
Lets have some perspective here. What matters here in a defence blog? Defence matters. Not hisotyr. Not politics. Wijayapala has not contributed anything defence related.
Guys like Ananda, Sam, Moshi, Asithri, Hemantha, Last Mile, Rana, etc. etc. have comtributed alot on defence matters.
Don't be misled. Look at the facts.
Wijayapala came here with a number of henchos and katchas to trumpet his praise without contributing anything defence related.
I own Rana an apology. I appreciate his contribution. Why I went against him was because I suspected he uses 2 accounts. I'm very against it. Sorry Rana for some of the things I said but I was guided by my suspicions and I don't think I was 100% wrong.
Try to appreciate who contributes defence matters and who contributes other stuff.
"You soon begin to recognize those people, and conserve your time and effort by ignoring them. There are many more important things to do than to continue pointless debates."
Once you have made your point, it is ok to ignore, if that is what one wants.
But one needs to remember the propaganda technique of ad nauseam, that is if a half truth is repeated enough times, it becomes the truth. Someone needs to counter this as well.
since we're on the topic of moderate sinhalese who talk u tamil cause which we certainly seem to have many of; did you ever wonder why tamils dont talk about error in their ways? All they want to do is kill sinhalese, SLA or otherwise. Look at comments from some of them on here for example. So it makes it very difficult to have sympathy for their cause.
And I'm not sure if we should be focusing on tamil cause just yet. First we gotta teach these cold blooded terrorists low life scum and their supporters a few lessons. That includes most tamils as they support LTTP's cause. These tamils who say they dont back LTTP now is saying that for obvious reasons. Where were they in early 2000 when things were going well for them. Weren't them the same ones jumping in joy back then?
STD,
I am not a racist usually Tamils never speak like wijayapala, at least in the blog. I have no problem with Tamils, in fact I don't see any difference between my Tamils brethren and Sinhalese brethren.
Every sack of apples has few rotten ones and we have fair share of our own. This blog is fine example of our bad apples.
Extremists are always creating troubles for others. We have many extremists on our side. That is why this problem started at the first palace.
"Lets have some perspective here. What matters here in a defence blog? Defence matters. Not hisotyr. Not politics. Wijayapala has not contributed anything defence related."
They are highly related, esp so in civil wars.I am yet to see one ' defence' related post from you though(naming private parts is not counted as defence-related:)
Bhanu escaped the trap.
http://www.nation.lk/2009/01/25/militarym.htm
" Rover,
I have read wijayapala's articles and I am communicating with him through emails. Even before, I knew him, I liked his writings. That is why I supported him. I got into trouble with Priyashantha, Sam Perera, Asithri and many others because I got wije's side.
I was not sure whether he was a Tamil or Sinhalese at the beginning, but who cares, what he writes is more important than the person. Even, if a Tamil could write like that I will love that person.
In my first email, I told him that don’t care his ethnicity, colour, religion or gender but I like your writing and extended my support to him.
He is not a racist that is all what I want from him. He is sympathetic towards Tamil peasants and me too.
Those who uttered so many filthy words to him will have to eat them one day. Attacking an honest scholar is something, I will not tolerate, anywhere, any time!!"
Yes, bro Rana, I know you are a good guy, wish there were more like you around....
Sometime before you joined the blog, I tried to keep off others from attacking Wijayapala unnecessarily, but didn't succeed....
But Wijayapala also has some shortcomings that prevents of making him a Knight in Shinning armor (he himself probably doesn't want himself to be depctied as one!). But these are minor, when you consider his usefulness in disparaging the Eelaam argument.
Priyashantha,
I don't have any problem with you, mate. When you shout, I matched that. When you attack me, I also attacked. As long as we have our interest on well being of SL, no matter, you are my brother. We are fighting for the same thing, mate. Have a good laugh now and take a drink.
Cheers.
Rana,
Thanx Bro. It's really encouraging..
!! Please stop the War !!
!!! Please Please PleaseStop killing civilians !!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtvef3sGAbg
Sun Tsu's Disciple,
Welcome back mate, hoping again for some good feedback from you...
"Rover,
I just wanted to convey my wishes for full-stop to this personal-attack/impersonation business and agree with your mature approach.
For too long these juveniles have spoilt the blog flow with unnecessasry personal attacks(when they cant beat via facts), and when personal attacks fail, resort to impersonation. I am sure we all know who the impersonators are( they are the ones using low language and/or clubbing together in mutual-support gangs).Their existance is a blot on Sri Lankas image to the world of literates."
Thanks. When I first joined this blog, I too participated in mindless arguments and rather personal attacks as well. But I realized the folly very quickly and changed. I thought perhaps my experience would be useful for others..
Ananda-USA,
I left a comment for you on this very same page. Can we discuss that if you think it is worthwhile to do so?
Oh what's going on..? No fakes.. No monkeys.. No fun.. boring.. ai aiyo..
!! Please stop the War !!
!!! Please Please PleaseStop killing civilians !!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtvef3sGAbg
Well after having taold Rana, I must I admit I'm a bit racist too. I'm living outside SL and I have a slight preference towards strangers of one particular race (of this counry) than stangers of another. But actually it does not apply once i get to know them.
I had a dinner with one of my SL buddies (who's a muslim) recently. When the conversaion got to race issues, he told me, "machan I being a muslim did not have any disadvantage becuse of my race. The disadvantage is not race based, but its basically a matter of being rich or poor"
Anyways in the post war era all singalse should be prepared to go out of the way to accomodate the tamils, inorder to win the trust of the people affected by the 1983 crimes. All singhalese should fully support the govt if it allocates lot more funds to develope N&E than the poor deprived areas of south. Development is the key to solving this whole issue.
Looks like no body gives a damn to what i say. Shall i change my ID to something else?
This article says India cannot depend on US under Obama for its Security
Likewise, Sri Lanka cannot depend on India; it must look inwards to maintaining its own economic and military strength.
Unlike Obama, it is not their place in history that inspires the terrorists. They get their high from the illusion of a seat in heaven. Religion, rather than history, motivates them. And they are fanatically convinced that they are on the right side of their religion.
In the face of such a resolute challenge, Obama may have to bend and adjust. Therein lies the possibility that there may be a double standard as far as the acts of terror against India are concerned.
This became evident on day one, when the Obama administration linked the disbursement of non-military aid to Islamabad’s action against terror on the Pak-Afghan border. The implications for India are clear: despite the carnage in Mumbai, the US remains focused on what concerns it the most.
The Indian leadership shouldn’t ignore the substance of the message. And it is quite simply this: we have to fight our own battle against terrorism.
The US and the rest of the world will step in to help if and when it suits them, and only to the extent it suits them. Otherwise they will keep making polite noises, hoping in the meantime that India exhausts itself. This suits the Pakistani strategy of wearing India down through debate, and at the same time to confuse the West with a litany of made up charges against India.
Unfortunately, we seem to have fallen into this trap. What is even more worrisome is the fact that after making endless threatening noises, we have been exposed to be toothless. Since India has not got the international community
to act nor taken even the minimum action itself, of scaling down diplomatic relations, the message to the terrorists is clear — they can take India for granted and get busy with plans for the next strike. The other danger is that our repeated pleas for collective international action may lead us on a path where the Kashmir issue gets internalised.
The first warning that the US may be proceeding along such lines came during the campaign when there was talk of Obama appointing a special envoy for the region. The next message, blunter, was delivered by the UK — America’s traditional lapdog.
In a flagrant abuse of Indian hospitality, the inexperienced British Foreign Secretary David Miliband linked terrorism with a solution to Kashmir. Miliband forgets that it was Northern Ireland, not Kashmir, which was directly linked to terrorism. Resentment of British policies bred terrorism in Northern Ireland. Yet the British crushed terrorism most violently before manoeuvring to get the issue settled in their favour.
British policy towards South Asia has always been determined by domestic considerations, in which Pakistanis have formed a traditional Labour Party voting bloc. Miliband’s abrasiveness could well be linked directly to such constituency considerations. It therefore suits him to encourage the Obama government that the root cause of terrorism in South Asia is Kashmir.
Lalith
57-58 Deserved to capture Velu jointly...
/I also beleive like somebody above that flooding is a very good way of hiding buried weapons./
For how long?
the name of the game is
MAJORITY RULES!
let's not beat about the bush.
it happens everywhere whether it's east, west, north or east.
any person who tries to go against that better get ready for a white van ride.
we ain't in any mood to compromise that whatsoever, after thousands of sldf & civilians lost their precious lives for 30 years continuously.
mustn't think of giving even an inch to these fokers. peelamists will now come whining like fucked bitches to get peacefully what they failed to get by murder. that's why most are against a big SL army.
while we think of peace after the war, they have other plans. their sole aim for the past 2,300 years has ben to destroy sinhala. it'll never change. so we must be very hard.
softness doesn't pay as the 6 runways built during ranil's peace proves. if not for mahinda soon we would have been facing much worse than zlings (or whatever other shit they have now). much worse. seems we still don understand the full implications of what could have been instead of what is now.
so this is no time for BS grievances. it's all crap. any tamil who has grievances should write them down in order & present it. most will be sexual. ha ha ha!
another BS is "tamil aspirations". what makes people think that only the tamils have aspirations?
well sinhala too have aspirations. that's to keep whole SL a unitary state ruled by the majority govt.
not cut it like a wedding cake.
in the meanwhile the sinhala & muslims should write down their grievances & present it to our tamil leaders & india. genocide & bomb victims of jaffna & the rest of SL including so called border villages can write them down & try to get them addressed by tamils.
india created the LTTE who in turn went berserk here for 30 continuous years. that's a hell of a grievance of sinhala & muslims. india will have to do something for that genuine sinhala grievance.
what makes the sl tamils have unique problems that foreign tamils don have? this must be the only country in the world that has such a number of bogus unelected tamil mp's enjoying parliamentary priviliges. privileges which they use to run down their own country. now that's a genuine grievance.
we must completely clean up this mess & start from scratch.
so as the aussie PM said it's up to the minorities to adjust to the majority values.
otherwise get the hell out & take ur grievances with u. we don want either.
MAJORITY RULES! cheers!
/I'm not Bahirav :) said...
Looks like no body gives a damn to what i say. Shall i change my ID to something else?/
If you are not Bahirav no one cares.. change it to Bahirav. Ha Ha
STD,
"Now that the conventional phase is almost over, its a given that Tigers can never regain static territory or warfare. It at most will be a disturbing presence in certain parts, which should not affect nationbuilding to too big an extent.Why dont the Sinhalese polity now make SL into a vibrant economy by tapping into the resources of the Tamil Diaspora?"
It is so hard not to think along ethnic lines, but still we do. I would prefer if all diaspora are invited to invest in all of Sri Lanka, without regional biases.
For this to happen GSL needs to do a lot. I think one of the best ways to do this is to strengthen the moderates of both camps, and have a liberal democracy in Sri Lanka.
"Initally it may not take off, but they will realise sooner than later that cooperation is better.
SL can give them a supervised autonomy at a level higher than the 13th amendment( it has failed acceptance).Diaspora Tamils can be encouraged to investin the economy--if Sinhalese are fearful then perhaps a clause may be put wherein a % of the investment, say atleast 25%, is to be conditionally invested in non-Tamil areas? These measures would perhaps even act as a dampener of future muslim militancy?"
If the majority (both Sinhala and Tamil) does not agree to this, this can't be done.
GSL should aim instead to preserve the rights of the minorities (religious, ethnic, other), while accepting the will of the majority. The role of education will also be indispensable for our unity.
"It is easy to be carried away in the heat of ' victory '. But the iron of rebuilding should be struck when it is hot(now), not later.A nation cannot progress if a significant part of it is festering."
With this I agree, GOSL should set about addressing the issues when they still have political millage. Do what is right for Sri Lanka.
/I also beleive like somebody above that flooding is a very good way of hiding buried weapons./
it will be hard to find them again too.. lolz
I'm not Bahirav :) said...
Anyways in the post war era all singalse should be prepared to go out of the way to accomodate the tamils, inorder to win the trust of the people affected by the 1983 crimes.
agree with most of what you said except the quoted bit above. Tamils started this "struggle' of theirs in 1983, they struggled struggled and finally struggled out and the struggle is dead iwth a whole heap of them. Just because they keep repeating the '1983 mantra" doesnt make it true. They started this and they got smacked and we shouldnt ever apologize for that.
Instead of sinhalese going upto tamils and accomodating them how about Tamils coming up to sinhalese and accomadate sinhalese. Then learn to live like normal human beings?
if they're not sure we could certainly teach them.
puran appu,
Wellcome bro, any time any where, you are my brother. I am for you without asking, mate.
"For how long?"
As long as needed, till the dust settles( eg present East).I am sure massive hoards of small and medium weapons have been buried Adampan onwards.The bigger ones will have to be blasted or thrown into the sea shortly.
If the Tiger leadership has any political-savvy( unlikely) they will regroup under a new name for insurgency.
We have a recently taken photo of Bhairav in front of his PC in this post
@observer
Hahahahahahahahaha
"it will be hard to find them again too.. lolz"
GPS :)
Jay said....
Tamils started this "struggle' of theirs in 1983, they struggled struggled and finally struggled out and the struggle is dead iwth a whole heap of them. Just because they keep repeating the '1983 mantra" doesnt make it true. They started this and they got smacked and we shouldnt ever apologize for that.
Instead of sinhalese going upto tamils and accomodating them how about Tamils coming up to sinhalese and accomadate sinhalese. Then learn to live like normal human beings?
if they're not sure we could certainly teach them.
Jay, I could not have summarized the history, or suggested a policy, better than this.
Sam Perera,
about the traitor's list.
jayalath jayawardena.
I wanna add some more guys.
THE TRAITORS WHO WERE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE MILLENIUM CITY INCIDENT & EXPOSURE OF OUR MOST VALUED MILITARY ASSETS.
was it montague jayawickrema, tilak marapana etc? sirasa? not sure.
whoever it is they deserve to be added at the top.
Duzz,
/I also beleive like somebody above that flooding is a very good way of hiding buried weapons./
it will be hard to find them again too.. lolz
They would have got the GPS position for the hidden weapons (so there is sure to be a record), so the best way to find those will be through MI.
Swaranajith Udana,
My dearest brother, you must come back regularly here. I want you here my brother. We can build new world for SL together with your heart of gold.
We need more and more people like Sujeewa, wijayapala, Swarnajith and Saman. They are the real people who have a solid patriotic heart.
Guys
This war is not over yet.
1. SLA still have to kill or get VP, top 10 LTTE leaders, black tigers, 2000+ hard core cadres.
2. SLA still have to find heavy guns, (130, 122, 120)
3. Find TAF
4. GSL have to deal with 100,000 civilian hostage issue
5. 333 km^2 still to be cleared
After this before jumping into investment (or at least in parallel to development) GSL need to;
1. Strengthen SLN more
2. Recruit more to SLA
3. Search and kill hard core cadres who went under ground
4. Search and punish those who funded this killing mechanism (LTTE) - diasspora included
5. Establish well developed security plan which covers whole SL in long term
6. Rehabilitate misguided (former) LTTE cadres
7. Take care of our war heros and their families - need a mechanism or a tax
Then work on other general issues;
1. Political system
2. Ethnic integration
3. Equal opportunities
4. Economic development
Velluprabhakaran said...
in the meanwhile the sinhala & muslims should write down their grievances & present it to our tamil leaders & india. genocide & bomb victims of jaffna & the rest of SL including so called border villages can write them down & try to get them addressed by tamils.
Well, I can assure you that India would not have clue about how to handle any of the problems. They have far worse discrimination problems there. They are just preaching to a country that treats its people much better, and has achieved a much higher level of social equity than they have, JUST BECAUSE THEY ARE BIGGER! That is all.
so this is no time for BS grievances. it's all crap. any tamil who has grievances should write them down in order & present it.
Yes, any grievances that cannot be met under a single Sri Lankan identity, in one unitary country, as one people, with equal rights and equal responsibilities for all, are not grievances, but just GREED; Greed that cannot be accommodated in Sri Lanka.
well sinhala too have aspirations. that's to keep whole SL a unitary state ruled by the majority govt. not cut it like a wedding cake.
Yes, if you mean a unitary state ruled Government elected bu the majority of Sri Lankans citizens.
seems we still don understand the full implications of what could have been instead of what is now.
Exactly. There are still too many people who don't seem to appreciate the mortal danger to the country, that we escaped by the skins of our collective teeth, thanks to this GOSL!
we must completely clean up this mess & start from scratch.
Exactly. Nicely put!
Wow atleast some are noticing me.
Another thing I'd love to see is making tamil compulsory for Singhala speaking kids and making singhala compulsory for tamil speaking kids (the second language subject should not be made tough, basic writing speaking skills is enough).
I think its being done to some extent even now, cause one of my nephews is learning tamil in school. I had a friend in STF who spoke tamil well, he was quite a hit in the area he served and everybody loved him. He wouldn't have been so popular if he didnt speak their language.
I admire MR for this. He's putting lot of effort to learn tamil himself, speaking a few centences in his speaches to the nation.
Imagine the impression he can make by making a great speach in tamil, in front of a large crowd in the Dorai Appa stadium in Jaffna. Wow!!!!
Yeah, like Ninja says the war is not over yet. But one could be hardly blamed for dreaming of the post war sri lanka at this stage, because of the rapid progress being made by our forces.
One other MOST IMPORTANT issue is to give prioroty to sodliers and make sure their welfare remains always at the forefront in all budget allocations.
Sujeewa,
A living VP is only good for us if Sri Lankans (both Sinhalese and Tamils) do well. If we don't do well, VP lobby will be strengthened again. If this is the eventuality, it is better to have VP dead (and any other successors).
Well Done SLDF! Long LIVE our bravehearts!
Waiting to see pictures from Mullative...Brig Udawatta hoisting SriLankan Flag
I don't think that any of the LTTE leaders should be considered seriously as political figures. Anyway, now it is too late for these leaders to make that move (especially after the LTTE is fully vanquished).
If any of the LTTE leaders wanted to be not considered to be LTTEers anymore, they have to commit an act of of treason for the LTTE's terrorist ideals.
As long as they have an extremist agenda, they should not be encouraged/allowed to do politics by the GSL.
Guys,
I am going for a well earned sleep now. it is a total nad unconditional victoery for us. I can sleep very well today.Have goood nigth and dreame well brothers. It is from my bottom of the heart for my fellow patriots.
I quit for today!
Guys,
Anybody like to hear about my great dick? its length, how women admire it etc.?
No ?
Just like that I don't like to hear or talk about this guy named Wijeyapala and his version of history.
Wow!
Looks like I have a cult following here.
Multiple fakes posting throughout 24hours.
Anyway
Wag1 in the moda land?
Wijayapala is an acclaimed academic.
If you don't like what he writes, don't read it.
Criticise the message, but don't curse the messenger.
here is some top secret/classified information, leaked by a Di-ASS-pora guy,
".. In the calendar of Tamil Eeelam, everyday is April 1st.. "
I love Wijepala! Let him post.
Others stop talking about Wijepala as a person.
Please!
Wijepala supports our cause!
SUN TZU SAID...
In hindsight, I would say, the LTTE military performance dwarfs that of the SLDF, pound for pound.
HMMMMMM...IN THE LATE 1970'S AND EARLY 1980'S SRI LANKA ARMY, NAVY AND THE AIR FORCE WAS USED PRIMARILY FOR CEREMONIAL PURPOSES. THE LTTE TOOK MAXIMUM ADVANTAGE IN THOSE DAYS DUE TO OUR INABILITY.
LTTE USED OUR MODA LEADERS TO GET WHAT THEY WANT. WHEN THEY WERE GETTING BOGGED DOWN THEY ALWAYS CHANTED THE PEACE MANTRA. THEY DIDN'T WANT TO TALK ABOUT A FINAL SOLUTION. THEY ALWAYS TALKED ABOUT SHIRANS, P-TOMS..ETC...WAL BAILA...
WE DIDN'T HAVE A CLEAR MISSION TO DESTROY THE LTTE. ALL THE PAST OFFENSIVES WERE CARRIED OUT TO OPEN UP SUPPLY ROUTES TO JAFFNA PENINSULA. (NORTHERN OFFENSIVES)
WE DIDN'T HAVE MBRL'S THOSE DAYS AND THEY TOOK ADVANTAGE AND STARTED WAVE TYPE OPERATIONS.
WE DIDN'T HAVE SMALL VERY FAST ATTACK BOATS AND THEY DESTROYED LOTS OF DVORAS.
WE HAD SO MANY PONNA LEADERS (BEST EXAMPLE : RANIL WICK)...THEY GAVE SO MANY THINGS TO THE LTTE.
THE INTERNATIONAL COMMUNITY, NGO'S AND THE PONNA LEADERS CREATED A MENTALITY THAT THE LTTE IS THE STRONGEST TERROR ORGANIZATION IN THE WORLD AND CAN BE NEVER DEFEATED.
WE DIDN'T HAVE SPECIAL PROGRAMS THAT LIFTS THE MORAL OF THE SOLDIERS LIKE "API WENUWEN API" ...
WE DIDN'T HAVE THE CORRECT POLITICAL AND MILITARY LEADERSHIP...IN THE PAST...
Tamilnet just passed Mahen blog interms of entertaintment ...!
"People are not prepared to surrender themselves. They seem very concerned of the future course of the struggle and were concerned of their sons and daughters."
"The Sri Lankan military is testing the breaking point of the people."
1. Why the hell people do have to surrender if they are not terrorists?
2. "They seem very concerned of the future course of the struggle" - Struggling to die?
3. "The Sri Lankan military is testing the breaking point of the people (terrorists)" - Oh hell we are, do you realize now?
Mullaiteevu is a beautiful place, use to live there, LTTP police protected our community with shot guns, axes knives whatever they could find. Resourceful bunch.
Under the trees we studied and now I've passed bachelor of investment banking.
Moda bandas have schools but do they have courses like that?
I agree with everything wijayapala says as long as its pro LTTE
The conversations here are for intellectually retarded.
I never come here because of that. I'm going to go chuck some rocks in the pond.
Guys does blasting a Tank bund qualify as a terrorist act??????
Would like to hear your ideas on it.
The Kalmadukulam tanks had a capacity to irrigate 500 acres of land it seems. source
Low cast moda Bandas can invade our land but know you'll be ruling over similar low cast tamils. Lol
thambala said...
Guys does blasting a Tank bund qualify as a terrorist act??????
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Does building one qualify as one?
Then how could blasting one be?
Use your brain
Namo namo moda lanka
Rajapaksa invites Karunanidhi to visit Jaffna, Vanni, to advise Tigers to free human shield
What about this time "dayata kirula"? I heard that lot of captured weapons will be shown this time. Do anyone know more details??
GutiKewa said...
Tamilnet just passed Mahen blog interms of entertaintment ...!
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Well if moda Bandas like entertainment we have more to give at pothukudduyiruppu. Remember the entertainment at EPS, Paranthan and Killi?
Guys does blasting a Tank bund qualify as a terrorist act??????
Would like to hear your ideas on it.
The Kalmadukulam tanks had a capacity to irrigate 500 acres of land it seems.
source
Its better if we can speak with the surrendered LTTE carders at the "dayata kirula". Just an idea. :p
More LTTE you kill the stronger they become, on a spiritual level at least.
Puran & B#1
Personally, I think it is better to postpone "dayata kirula".
Do you think a child born to a 12 year old LTTE mother and a 50 year old respectable commander is just going to surrender?
Conceived in bunker and fight in bunker it's in our blood.
[[[thambala said...
Guys does blasting a Tank bund qualify as a terrorist act?]]]
dunno buddy. but it's definitely the last act.
[[[ B#1 said...
Its better if we can speak with the surrendered LTTE carders at the "dayata kirula". Just an idea. :p]]]
I have a better idea. have a dayata kirula in mullathivu & killi later.
we can put one LTTE cadre in a cage with tamil mothers whose children were killed after forceful conscription by LTTE.
about ten mothers per cadre. these mothers can carry sticks.
we can have dayata kirula running for years breaking all box office records. can get major WWF & wbf sponsorships.
ha ha ha!
Nisal,
I don't see anything wrong with that exhibition. For me, its a must at this year since lot of people are eagerly waiting to attend.
Has there been similar acts (i.e. blasting water reservoirs ) before of this nature?
Or is this the firt instance of it in the world???
Puran,
"Rajapaksa invites Karunanidhi to visit Jaffna, Vanni, to advise Tigers to free human shield"
Some people say this is a good move. But what if Karu comes and LTTE listens to him; knowing fully well that they can't keep the people with them for ever, it is good for the TN politicians as well (and the LTTE), a good way to gain some millage. Good way to show/keep solidarity of the separatists Tamils.
Even the civilians will say, an India had to come to our rescue!
Not a smart move by GSL.
Geez... Peter pan is still talking big even after his supreme tigers are confined to making friends with snakes and rats in a small strip of jungle. When will moda demala realize that his butt is on fire.
Rana,
You said,
Have a good laugh now and take a drink.
I did just that!
Cheers friend.
Velluprabhakaran,
Nice portrait you've got there!
Thambala,
"Guys does blasting a Tank bund qualify as a terrorist act??????
Would like to hear your ideas on it.
The Kalmadukulam tanks had a capacity to irrigate 500 acres of land it seems. "
Yes it does. Any act if it terrorizes civilians to achieve a political goal is a terrorist act.
Boy I'm glad this Wijayapala topic has died down.
What matters is military matters.
If you contribute military matters and discuss them you are a hero.
If you talk about archeology, history, race all the time and not military matters, you are a loser.
Stay focused patriots as Gota said.
Off to bed. Good night.
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