The Army suffered a setback last weekend when around 600 hardcore LTTE cadres infiltrated the FDL of the Army's 58 Division from the general area Puthukudirippu North. A group of around 200 cadres who attempted to flank the 55 and 58 were massacred by 3 Special Forces and 2 Commandos after the 55 Division spotted them early on.
Although Military Intelligence had warned of a possible infiltration, the 58 Division had not taken the warning seriously. The 600 member LTTE team was led by Lawrence and Swarnam and around 200 of them had escaped back to LTTE dominated areas after dismantling the 58 FDL. It is believed that the body of Lawrence is among those recovered by the SLA.
A group of around 200 more are still inside SLA dominated areas. Troop movement along the A-9 has stopped due to fear of attacks on soldiers returning on leave. The 58 was unable to bridge the broken FDL until the Special Forces and the 57 Division arrived.
Today a team of Tigers from the infiltration team captured an Army Artillery Gun Position and destroyed 3 130mm canons after turning the guns against the SLA. The Tigers had infiltrated 10-12km into SLA dominated areas to capture the position, which is situated near the former IDP camp in Kilinochchi where a woman suicide bomber blew herself up some time ago.
The Army had 200 casualties on the 7th alone, which included 70 killed. After helping the 58 regroup from its setback, the Special Forces will now hunt the Tigers down, which will be somewhat difficult as they are wearing SLA uniforms and reinforced by weapons and food dumps yet unrecovered by the 58. Many were expecting the LTTE to breach the coast from Nagarkovil to Puthumathalang by sea but the 55 Division had made the coastline unbreachable.
Tuesday, March 10, 2009
Army suffers temporary setback
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«Oldest ‹Older 3201 – 3400 of 3403 Newer› Newest»Moshe Dayan said...
"colonisation led to the conflict" is another BIG BULLSHIT myth tamil elamists cultivated in petty brains.
Agree with you 100%.
Kollane,
Menna me pattarayata gihilla liyapalla etta tatwaya..
Me liyumkaruta godak udaw ona welawak!
An enlightened one!
It is difficult to leave the blog.
Ananda, Moshe, Sujiwa, Romeo, Panhinda, ReallyCold,
Colonization was a main reason of the conflict.
LTTE committed so many masssacres in Singhala and Muslim villages in the north-east. None of these would have happened if the governments in 1940s-1990s didn't colonize these areas.
In response government forces killed Tamil villagers on many occassions. These would not have happened if there was no colonization.
Problems increased when Manal'aru was turned to Weligamam. This my friends, is colonization.
Let people come if they want to. Don't bring them. Don't have large irrigation schemes like DSS had because they attract outsiders.
Changing the natural ethnic composition in the north-east was the problem. Don't repeat this mistake.
Without winning the hearts and minds of Tamil people this problem cannot be solved. If you colonize Tamil majority areas with other races that disturbs them. They have been living in these areas for centuries like this and it shouldn't be changed quickly. If you want to win their hearts don't do this.
I appreciate Moshe's clear understanding of Tamil aspirations. It is true. But his solution is worse than the problem!
How can you give reasonable self-rule to Tamils if Singhalas are living in large numbers in the north-east? Then it will be a Singhala-Singhala agreement forced on Tamils. If Singhala people are reasonably high, Tamil parties will have to please them to run the north-east region. The government is supporting some Tamil groups too. This will be a mess. It defeats the purpose of granting reasonable self-rule to Tamils.
I'm astonished how you guys bring different theories everyday to suppress Tamil aspirations.
@ SLA camps.
SLA should withdraw from all HSZs in the north. These are private property. After the war there is no need to deploy large number of troops. This money is best used for development.
People don't like to see pointed guns everyday after the war, checking, sentries, blah blah
Give the land to Tamils after liberating it from the LTTE. Singhalas and Muslims can come and live with Tamils but don't bring them, let them come voluntarily.
BOO PETER,
You still there??
REMINDER 2
Sivanesan,
"Give reasonable self-rule to Tamils in Tamil majority areas.
1.Can you explain what you mean by "reasonable self-rule"
2.What do you mean by Tamil "majority" areas? If you take whole Sri Lanka, Tamils are not a majority. So in order to have a "Tamil Majority" certain land areas have to be demarcated. How are you going to do that? Once demarcated will it be prohibited for people to come into or go out of that area? because otherwise the "majority" may change !!
panhinda,
75% untrue, mate.
tamils are not seriously divided along caste lines now. but they VERY strongly identify with thier community and the tamil diaspora is a VERY IMPORTANT part of it.
ethnic integration has 2 main part. i explained this b4.
the physical element and the human element.
sinhalas and tamils don't hate eachother.
they don't suspect eachother.
they trust eachother.
unkown sinhalas and tamils can do business BETTER than known ones!!!(i have plenty of examples!!)
so the human aspect of EI happens the moment it gets a chance. forcing it won't work and is unnecessary.
the problem is lack of chances. this is why the phisical element comes in.
ppl are not going to settledown in the north in sufficient numbers to make EI practical. this is why govt should start development, irrigation, cultivation programs. physical EI MUST come first.
i lived with tamils all my life in SL bcos tamils came from wherever it is to wellawatte and i was living in wellawatta. if they didn't physically come, i will never be able to have so many friends who are friendly KNOWING my stand on SL!!! this is the interdependant, routine, day to day EI.
the other reason is the role physical EI ALONE can play in FRUSTRATING the TE project. (of course if both p&h EI is there it is better.)
this method was practiced VERY SUCCESSFULLY in many united countries in the world when they were threatened with seperatism.
3rd reason is it breaks the monoethnic nature of the north. this MUST be done ASAP. otherwise it will be TULF, TNA, ACTC, ITAK, LTTE forever.
Moshe,
Sorry.. repost with small addition.
The Tamil community is hierarchical because of caste issues. If you look at settlement patterns, Tamils tend to congregate whereas Sinhalese arent. Even outside SL, Wembly, Toronto, Paris, Singaopre etc its the same. It may due the social structure Tamils feel comfortable among themselves and more insular.
A hand few of Jaffna/Colombo Velllhala elite were controlling Tamils in SL except for perhaps the hill country. Even the upcountry Tamils held a kind of a subservient role to the Vellahla elite.
However because of LTTE, the structure has been damaged. The Vellahla no longer control Tamils in SL. Most have fled and the remaining ones are living in poverty. Tamils are divided along region, caste and dialect lines. The Vellahla elite cocked up. It was a kind of a power bubble that burst. There is now the opportunity for more representation from diverse sections of Tamils. Ethnic integration does not have to be forced on Tamils. When those lower strata progresses economically and socially, the caste system will also break further. It will make them less insular thus forcing them to come out of their shells.
The rigid caste hierarchy also helps in military sence because the social strucure itself can be easily retrofitted to a military chain of command. This also helps to understand why LTTE was so successful. However if the caste strucure is flattened, it wont be as easy to form another such organistion.
What we in SL have to do is not force ethnic integration but economically and socially empower lower class Tamils who were discriminated by both the Vellhala elite and the Sinhala elite. It will help both communities in the long run and prevent this sort of thing recurring.
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wat happening in PTK....
Our SLA could not mak it so far????
WHY???
WHAT IS THE SITUATION THERE????
please update...
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panhinda,
not fighting but 75% untrue, mate.
tamils are not seriously divided along caste lines now. but they VERY strongly identify with thier community and the tamil diaspora is a VERY IMPORTANT part of it.
ethnic integration has 2 main part. i explained this b4.
the physical element and the human element.
sinhalas and tamils don't hate eachother.
they don't suspect eachother.
they trust eachother.
unkown sinhalas and tamils can do business BETTER than known ones!!!(i have plenty of examples!!)
so the human aspect of EI happens the moment it gets a chance. forcing it won't work and is unnecessary.
the problem is lack of chances. this is why the phisical element comes in.
ppl are not going to settledown in the north in sufficient numbers to make EI practical. this is why govt should start development, irrigation, cultivation programs. physical EI MUST come first.
i lived with tamils all my life in SL bcos tamils came from wherever it is to wellawatte and i was living in wellawatta. if they didn't physically come, i will never be able to have so many friends who are friendly KNOWING my stand on SL!!! this is the interdependant, routine, day to day EI.
the other reason is the role physical EI ALONE can play in FRUSTRATING the TE project. (of course if both p&h EI is there it is better.)
this method was practiced VERY SUCCESSFULLY in many united countries in the world when they were threatened with seperatism.
3rd reason is it breaks the monoethnic nature of the north. this MUST be done ASAP. otherwise it will be TULF, TNA, ACTC, ITAK, LTTE forever.
Sivanesan,
Sinhala and Muslims go and live anywhere voluntarily is agreeable to you but bringing them is not. Why? SLG will not force anybody to go anywhere, only volunteers will come.
Your objection to large scale irrigation projects as DSS did is ridicules; we need proper irrigation systems to develop the area give facility for farmers to have high output.
Many people have already advised to give this Tamil aspiration crap. It has to be neither Tamil nor Sinhalese but Sri Lankan aspirations.
We need a good security because Tamil Nadu is close by and which place is swarming with racists like Vaiko, Karunandhi, and Nedumaran. Also there are many LTTE escapees in TN waiting to comeback and start their so called eelam aspirations again.
High security zones in a country like ours are prerogative to the democratically elected government not for individuals some section of the community to decide.
Like I said before, if Sinhalese ready to live any where in the island without major problems and also about half of the Tamil population can live in Colombo with others without any problem; what would be your problem of doing the same.
Forget them all, live anywhere you like and do whatever you like to do but do not violate the law and order of the State.
moshe,
/* physical EI MUST come first. */
hmm.. perhaps. if you were thinking this way then I can offer few examples. trinco wasn't as ethnically diverse before the British setup their naval base. The economic opportunities automatically generated a balanced composition.
i also think the adminstrative capital should be based in Trinco or Anuradapura. as long as the composition/intergraion is unforced, there will be no trouble. if you create opportunities you get what you want automatically.
JWick,
"1.Can you explain what you mean by "reasonable self-rule""
Reasonable devolution where Tamils can determine how things are run in Tamil majority areas.
I doubt you are liberal enough to take this but let me spell it out.
It will give Tamils the freedom to evaluate the two choices. Stay with Sri Lanka or gain independance. I'm sure we will decide to stay with Sri Lanka. So don't worry. Let there be space.
"2.What do you mean by Tamil "majority" areas?"
I'm refering to the north-east.
Romeo,
It is a bit more complex than that. A little too late for that sort of a resolution. But it can happen if Tamils are more meaningfully included in running the country specially Tamil majority areas.
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Sivanesan said...
Problems increased when Manal'aru was turned to Weligamam. This my friends, is colonization.
Dear Sivanesan,
80% of Sri Lanka Tamils live in Sinhala dominated areas of Sri Lanka outside the North and East.
Shall we call that "colonization" also? Or, is it a natural migration of people to where they wish to live, anywhere in their country of citizenship?
Since that is a FACT, what is your objection to the REVERSE MIGRATION of all citizens to the sparsely populated areas to their ANCESTRAL lands of the North and East?
Or, is it a "colonization" only when non-Tamils want to do it because it FRUSTRATES your attempt to carve out a mono-ethnic separatist state in Sri Lanka?
WE ALREADY KNOW THE ANSWER to that question, my friend!
EELAMIST arguments are ALWAYS SELF-SERVING and conforms to the premise: WHAT is MINE is MINE; WHAT is YOURS is OURS!
Just ADJUST to the idea that Sri Lankans in the future are going to be able to live wherever they want to live in the WHOLE country, and we will all be happier. No out-of-bounds areas at all.
Note to MOSHE DAYAN: I love this word FRUSTRATE that you introduced to our BAG OF TOOLS...it is SOOOO... appropriate!
I can remember some times back Tamilnet published some photos saying SLAF bombed civilian houses.
This house was in one of those photos.
Check the Video
House in 0:35
ReallyCold,
"Anyway, it is interesting Sivanesan has ignored left wingers like me and right wingers like Asthri/Ananda and talking to the mainstream Wijayapala :)"
You don't have to worry about that anymore, since he seems to have not found anything here worth responding to.
Incidentally, I have better things to do than to pretend to be a Tamil on a Sinhala forum and ask for "Tamil self-rule." I knew that most everyone here would get shit-scared by this talk despite the fact that the LTTE is going into the toilet, and I would not have used those terms.
Interesting that some "patriots" here like Mushe and Being Nobody listen closely to what Peter the LTTE bootlicker has to say about me.
"Perhaps he knows he can get his dreams much easily from you than us."
If Sivanesan's dream is to live alongside people who are willing to at least listen to him and empathize with his fears, if not necessarily to agree with him, then you are probably correct.
Sivanesan said....
Without winning the hearts and minds of Tamil people this problem cannot be solved.
Dear Sivanesan,
The Sinhalese having to win the hearts and minds of Tamils is not the problem now. That was 30 years ago...but now,
Tamils having to win the hearts and minds of the Sinhala people by demonstrating their willingness to live as equals in one nation, inhabited by one people with one collective destiny is the problem now.
Can you WORK HARD on that project please?
panhinda,
agree. that is the way to go. industrialisation, distribution of land among the landless, irrigation schemes, agricultural schemes, etc. as long as physical EI takes place in mono ethnic areas (where the problem is).
however, changing the capital is ...........???
nice talking to you.
Constantin Demiris said...
CASC,That gun is a Chinese QBZ 95 bullpup.
Many Thanks Constantin Demirisis.
Two days ago I was watching Sujith Vitharana Pathirana's video clip on Lt Col Subhashana Welikala. He is no doubt a very charismatic personality. He was talking to a group of soldiers and at the end of the conversation gave a friendly nudge to a corporal. No high and mighty officer behavior towards NCOs. No wonder he is like a cult figure in the army. Nation also had an article where they said that Brigadier Prasanna Silva's camp is called Samajawadi kadaura. He supposedly camps with ordinary soldiers and enjoys the same amenities that they do.
Also noticed that Lt Col Welikala is not wearing a flack jacket or helmet. He carries a military walking stick only. Nation had an article that said that while he was crossing Nanthikal lagoon on a boat the soldier standing right next to him was shot dead by LTTE fire.
The officer corps in Sri Lanka not only has some of the best and brightest they also have some very decent human beings. This is a major reason why the lower ranks are so highly motivated.
Ananda,
cheers.
come think of the bag of tools!!
harvest tigers, frustrate TE, tamilelamist MFs' arseache about the JHU, peaceful tamilelamists,.
Siva,
So basically what you really want is to simply separate North and East from Sri Lanka and form Tamil Eelam?
"self-rule", "Tamil majority areas" are simply meaningless words !!
So if similarly, rest of the country ("Sinhala majority area") decides (according to their "self-rule") NOT TO separate from Sri Lanka, THEN WHAT HAPPENS?
Sivanesan,
It will give Tamils the freedom to evaluate the two choices. Stay with Sri Lanka or gain independance.
Wow! That just jump out from you “GAIN INDEPENDENCE”!!!
Now you are asking us to beat LTTE and give eelam to you on a platter!
Think twice before even say this. Do you think any Sinhalese, Muslim or Burgher will agree that after what we have gone through during last 30 years?
I am fed up with you!!!
Tamil Majority Areas:
You mean Wellawatta and Kotahena? Or entire north and east?
There is nothing like Tamil majority areas in Sri Lanka; as at present your community represents about 8% of the total population and we are not going to give you one third of the country and two third of coastal line to minority group of 8%.
Go and join with Velupille to achieve what you want.
This is my last post and above is final on this matter as far as I am concerned.
moshe,
colombo can remain the commercial capital. i am talking about adminstrative capital. there are benefits having it in a central area in addition to forcing a balanced ethnic composition. it will bring some balance to colombo centric development. the decision makers can do their work in a stress free environment.
travel on a freeway from Trinco to Colmbo wont take more than 1.5 hours. MPs can commute to trinco from colombo everyday if they wish.
Romeo & ReallyCold,
This is my last post in this blog talking about the issues that Sivanesan had raised. I will post a longer reply later in roversterrain.blogspot.com.
I don't have a lot of time to write today, but I am pretty shocked at what you have to say given what the UTHR link had to say about how the Tamils suffered as a result of the govt's "development" schemes.
The Tamils weren't the only ones who suffered. Given that the purpose of Sinhala settlement from 1977 onward was to change the demographics of certain strategic areas, **and not to improve the welfare of the impoverished Sinhala settlers**, it should come to no surprise that successive governments neglected the settlers and pretty much left them to fend on their own. Many of the settlers were not even traditional farmers but were convicts given a choice that they could not refuse.
We saw the result of this kind of neglect just 2 years ago, when angry villagers threw stones at Chamal Rajapakse for giving them the middle finger:
Sri Lankan police charge farmers over anti-government protest (normally I don't cite WSWS, but it seems nobody else was very concerned about their plight)
If either of you are seriously interested in the topic of land issues and the unknown costs of resettlement, I recommend you read Robert Muggah's recently published, "Relocation Failures in Sri Lanka: A Short History of Internal Displacement and Resettlement."
Peter ... Did you know that Yen doesn't have cents?
if you are comparing yen, you'll have to use 100 yens against 1 rupee.
some banker..!
Sivanesan said...
How can you give reasonable self-rule to Tamils if Singhalas are living in large numbers in the north-east?
Who said we want to give "self-rule to Tamils"?
No, no...you have it ABSOLUTELY WRONG! Sri Lanka will not give "self-rule" to any ethnic community or ethnically based administrative region...that would be the PROTO-EELAM...nah, we don't want that at ALL.
I advocate dismantling of Provincial Councils altogether, and administering the country on the basis of District Councils with only local developmental powers, but not for police or security. The reason is, we don't want large regions to have too much power relative to the National Government...to prevent...you guessed it...the resurgence of SEPARATISM.
A SIDE BENEFIT of the elimination of Provincial Councils will be the total elimination of tax-supported "mini-state" PC bureauracies that are killing people's freedom to get anything done in the country.
We must get rid of all the Chief Ministers and all their hangers-on, and reduce the national cabinet from the 200-odd minister at present to no more than 30 ministers. The departments run by these National Ministers can be as large as necessary with branches in every District.
Panhinda,
I'll respond to your last message to me in Rover's blog later. I have to give you credit though for thinking outside the box better than others here.
"What we in SL have to do is not force ethnic integration but economically and socially empower lower class Tamils who were discriminated by both the Vellhala elite and the Sinhala elite."
I think that is what Douglas Devananda is planning in Jaffna, given that the Vellalas no longer comprise an outright majority of the population.
romeo,
"Now you are asking us to beat LTTE and give eelam to you on a platter!"
EXACTLY!
this is exactly what MFs like rajan hoole, ananda singari (ASS), soththipakaya saravanamuttu, radika coomaraswamy, wesarani gunasekera, etc. are asking PEACEFULLY, VERY INNOCENTLY.
some of our fools arselick them bcos they,
1. are against the LTTE
2. are non-violent
3. can twist words VERY WELL.
4. look like arsefcuked by a sulky yak
liberal??? my arse!!
good on you jwick 4 asking the right questions.
Sivanesan,
I had thought you had left this blog, hence my prior message to Romeo and ReallyCold.
"It will give Tamils the freedom to evaluate the two choices. Stay with Sri Lanka or gain independance. I'm sure we will decide to stay with Sri Lanka."
I think you did not read closely what I had sent you before. This is exactly the sort of statement that will make Sinhala people not listen to you (just as Mushe and Ananda are doing a great job stating things that will push Tamils away).
No Sinhala, including myself, would support the creation of a separate Tamil state in Sri Lanka. The common argument against devolution/self-rule has always been that it will be a stepping stone towards a separate state. By saying that self-rule will give the Tamils the choice for independence, you have basically validated and justified this anti-devolution argument.
wijepala, cheers. i will see you there when i find the url for rovers blog.
ALL IN THE FAMILY TERRORIST BUSINESS:
The Tamil Diaspora makes pink PROPHYLACTICS;
They PIERCE THE ENDS with a pin;
The LTTE gets RICH ON ABORTIONS;
My God, how the MONEY ROLLS IN!
The ‘Wal Kotia’s’ days are numbered. The battles will still be fought. Next phase will belong to the ‘Die-Ass-Parayahs’.. We have to be ready and when they come to visit our beautiful island, we have to make sure that these 'Die-Ass-Parayas' feel wanted forever and make sure that they will lay to rest in our Unitary Sri Lankan Country till eternity. They will be remembered
WesaBalla is in shit.
Incidentally, I have better things to do than to pretend to be a Tamil on a Sinhala forum and ask for "Tamil self-rule." I knew that most everyone here would get shit-scared by this talk despite the fact that the LTTE is going into the toilet, and I would not have used those terms.
So Defencewire is a Sinhala forum?
LMAO!
Isnt this typical Tamil racist thinking?
Wesaballa pissed with Sivenesa for revealing his secret and he is escaping to Rover's blog.
Wesaballa has another reason. Sivanesa started going after other whores.
Wesaballo umbata Demala witharai therenne namuth puluwannam meka kiyawala balanna.
Sandakal gala Paradeepath Sumanakka
Tracey vesi samagin balu Sumanadasa
Elama patha despremin bheda karaa
Binareta kalin thopi semadena wenasethwa
http://www.srilankaguardian.org/2009/03/prabhakaran-is-our-holy-father.html
Soon after the Jaffna Human Shield March, seven torture camps for women were found by the Armed Forces in and around the Jaffna City where there were several women who were raped, tortured and imprisoned. These camps were managed by Adele Balasingam and some of the prisoners who were rescued by the army may be alive and will be able to relate their horrendous experiences. Adele Balasingam was evil incarnate and was a constant caller at the Catholic Bishop House in Jaffna.
A middle-aged woman who escaped from the clutches of Adele Balasingam and the Tiger guards and reached Vavuniya was so shocked that it took her nearly a year to start talking and slowly relate her ghastly experience. She was from Chavakacheri and her three sons were members of the EPRLF. One of her sons was shot in front of her by the Tiger gang and the other two escaped and are now living in Orissa.
This lady managed to escape when the security became lax in the wake of the armed forces marching into Jaffna. She had extensive injuries while crawling under the barbed wire fence and walked all the way to Pooneriyan and then to Vavuniya.
In her own words in Tamil, “every day young women and girls were systematically raped and tortured and even killed all under the direction of Adele Balasingam.” Surely this Australian wife of Prabhakaran’s counselor Balasingam is a candidate for human rights abuses indictment.
The LTTE went on a murderous campaign against all the other liberation groups and hundreds were killed and most of the women, especially the young girls were taken to Adele Balasingam’s torture camps. Violence was so methodically and determinedly instilled into the Tiger training programme, that whoever went through it became beasts.
PEELAMIASTS THREATEN WAR CRIMES CHARGES AGAINST US. WHY CAN'T WE CHARGE ADELE BALASINGHAM WITH AME? COS SHE IS WHITE?
As you can see, re-settlement of Sinhalese in NE is not a brand new idea. It has been around for decades. I can see some people are supportive of it and even some Sinhalese are against it.
We are Sinhalese and we are allowed to disagree. We don't kill people with different ideas. If there is enough support, it will happen. If there is not, that is fine as well.
I will never propose it for a moment if it affect Tamils already in the area.
Again, most of these proposals are to benefit the neglected majority of Sri Lanka. If anyone wants to fight for minority rights, that is good too.
First, we never played hide and seek (hora polis) with LTTTE. Some of the land we are capturing land may be owned by LTTE and rest can be government owned. What we are trying to do is no different from of the past captors of wars have done. What we don't do is the disruption of lives of the captured area. At the end, every one will benefit.
Do you guys want the sacrifice our soldiers made go unnoticed? They deserve something better than a thank you letter and a pension. Offering their life to the country was done by many as a way to serve their families.
Almost all the nine provinces have to have Sinhalese majority since Sinhalese are now closer to 75% of the population. Most of the captive areas in NE already have Sinhalese names. That means, they had been colonized by Sinhalese at some point of the history.
We are not talking about stealing land. If people own land and they can prove it, government must walk away. If any of the land was used to harbor Terrorism, it is a different question. Like I said, this was not hora polis. There has to be repercussion for the wrong doers. LTTE did not surrender and government should have the upper hand in their decision making.
It is also sad that some people see this proposal as a racist idea.
It is funny that you guys call Asithri/Priyashantha did not even propose such an idea. I never called a Tamil sakkili or even justified raping a Tamil woman. These two were the most despicable humans you find here.
I also don't think that expatriate should not have the ability to purchase land. People like me ran away from the war front and don't deserve a thing. We have been providing moral, financial, as well as counter propaganda support. That is nothing compared to putting your life at the line.
But, I helped to uncover the planted seed. It is up to people in Sri Lanka and the government on what to do. There will be others who will take these ideas forward even if I support or not. I am not married to my thoughts that much and if this isn't successful, I won't even sweat.
However this will ensure a win-win for both Tamils and Sinhalese at the same time mitigate any future threats for our territorial integrity.
Moshe;
Suspicion is between tamils of terror controlled areas vs rest of Sri Lankans [Even tamils in Colombo suspect the wanni ones]. Obviously we see no problems with the ones living with us.
I also have no suspicion with diaspora but certain that 90% are separatist and another big portion is terror supporters. They are the reason why we are all here, not pussycats.
I can't think of peace with them, until they change or are subjected to the laws of humanity. And of course I pardon the lot that end up in mental asylums [even that is exploited by diaspora extort collectors these days].
Thusitha;
Most lands in SL are not registered. It is the same in south. We all think that those who live in the lands for few generations should be allowed to live. So I am not agreeing that you should go by Kachcheri docs when deciding ownership. it is messy, but wanni ppl will settle the matter over time, finding their own homes.
Note that Kachcheri docs are the manner how Sudda stole lands of up country ppl for coffee cultivation.
There will be very little no-man's lands left in wanni other than forest reserves. But I agree that those left crown lands should be given for entrepreneurship.
Romeo;
As long as you buy the land with owners consent, well, it is perfect. But I read your initial comment as GOSL should take the lands of wanni ppl and sell to entrepreneurs like you. So that is what I opposed.
Ananda;
Crown lands should be sold to anyone who wants to buy. Fully agree. Your anyone = sri lankans. That is the best way indeed.
But believe me there will be a very little crown lands left. Enough for industry, not enough for farms.
AmmaGG;
in this havoc of identity and ideological masturbation, I always answer the ideas. Some I let go. But some of these lads were taking a hell of a time on these lands rights and I read ReallyCold and Romeo as very discriminative to Tamils.
I thought we have an obligation to defend all Sri Lankans within this space, as long as they think as Sri Lankan. That is why I replied. Romeo and RC would be read as very bad racists and I expected to see someone suggesting the need for separation due to lads like those.
And of course we should MBRL those who don't think as Sri Lankan. This is my two cent's regarding the whole mishmash of devolution and ethnic integration.
Sivanesan;
I stand by you as long as your land ownerships are concerned. But the lands should be sellable. The Wanni lands are sellable to any Sri Lankan like the lands elsewhere. Selling happens with willingness of owner so do not make a case on that. And under that pretext you cannot complain of colonizing when Sinhala or Muslim buy the lands.
Also the original Nothern Sinhala and Muslim whom were chased by pussycats should be given their property back.
Do you see that you mono-ethnic wonderland [independent or Federal] becomes unrealistic with these conditions. We support devolution, only based on regions. One wins the majority votes of the region will lead the regional authority, no matter which race he/she belongs to.
Treason to Sri Lankan basis should be prohibited and anyone trying racial divisions should be punished.
tamil grievances have been cancelled forever by prabhakaran's murder of tamil innocents.
in future they will be looked after by the JHU & buddhist priests very well. ha ha ha!
Sujeewa Kokawala ..
You are 100% correct. I wish i can give you a hug.
"Colonization was a main reason of the conflict."
This war is not just an ethnic war it is also a war for a natural resource, land.
The two words "Tamil homeland" sums this up. Greedy Tamils fighting for native sinhala land.
The low cast tamils are manipulated to fight for the high cast tamils for survival. Post war rebuilding must mainly focus on these poverty stricken low cast tamils who are just innocent victims of a useless conflict.
I totally agree with Ananda's views regarding how land in the north should be acquired for development. Just like in the south compensation should be paid fully , and only crown land should be distributed without compensation.Tamils should be given title to rightful ownership.
Velu said...tamil grievances have been cancelled forever by prabhakaran's murder of tamil innocents.
These so called grivances are mostly distorted by peelam seeking extremists. The genocide bila is the best example for an exaggerated lie.
SK
Anyone can form an opinion.
[But some of these lads were taking a hell of a time on these lands rights and I read ReallyCold and Romeo as very discriminative to Tamils.]
Please explain how they can be discriminative to Tamils?
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the mass murder of tamil civilians by their saviour high priest/sungod will completely overshadow any tamil grievance forever.
tamil political aspirations are part of their crocodile tear based grievances. so the tamil political aspirations & any legitimate basis for future violence also gets flushed down the commode with their silly grievances.
the dieasspora activities & their terrorist funding network will have to be hunted down & exposed mercilesly now. top priority must be given for that.
end of the senseless conflict looms large over the horizon.
Ok the Civillian has a become a Dickless Tiger Boy
tiger boy,
we think differently.
we love killing your kids with weapons. send them more to the front. we have a stock of 1 billion bullets and everyday thousands will reach expiry date if we don't use them.
so we need targets.
SL banned hunting in 1970s but there are many who love hunting including me. we hunt terrorists instead of animals. every hunt gives an additional gun as a bonus to hunt more. howz that!!
KILL TAMIL TIGERS LIKE WILD GAME, A KILL FOR EVERY HUNTER.
Sujeewa K,
ReallyCold and Romeo as very discriminative to Tamils.
I challenge you to prove what you have said.
Have I ever said words like “sukkili”, “whore bitch”, “thangachchi” and “thalathel” etc etc? Have I ever, cursed any mother, sister or daughter?
So, those who did is better people than me or RC to you!
I can see your double standard here unless you prove with evidence I am a reacist.
I will be waiting!!!!
vellu,
but hunting must continue as long as there are tigers and other criminals deserving death.
time to time we need to horn our hunting skills by killing a few suspected tigers at least.
romeo,
just drop it mate.
this is the problem when we don't have tigers. we go at eachother!!!
vellu,
or else.
tigers dress up as SLA and other tigers who are on traiing, kill them!!
both teams win.
the shooting team gets practice.
the dying team is happy bcos they didn't die in the hands of the enemy!!!! and when SLA finds them, they get a decent burrial too!!!
Moshe Dyan,
of course the hunting must go on. otherwise how can our planned large army of the future get target practise without a few LTTE remnant suckers. a sucker is born every minute. ha ha ha!
so we could select & release a few LTTE sucker cadres who came with the civilians into the wanni jungles & hunt them down like pigs once in a while for the heck of it. it'll be good training & will kep the boys in touch. most of all it'll be fun! ha ha ha!
if their saviour can do it with his unarmed civilians why can't we do it with murderers? cheers!
ha ha ha!
One of the primary motivation for the Eastern Tamil to join LTTE was the colonisation scare. LTTE said their power was taken away by govt sponsored Sinhala settlements. Kent-Dollar farms families were massacred precisely because they were settled by govt. Similarly LTTE does not have to exist in the future for an someone to kill settled Sinhalese. If Sinhalese are settled, then their lives will be at risk always.
That is why the mixing has to happen according to natural dynamics of population movement. If econimic conditions are improved there then migration will naturally occur. No one will be in a position to claim there was a hidden agenda and more importantly peoples lives will be safer.
Moooo
//tiger boy,
we think differently.
we love killing your kids with weapons. send them more to the front. we have a stock of 1 billion bullets and everyday thousands will reach expiry date if we don't use them.
so we need targets.
SL banned hunting in 1970s but there are many who love hunting including me. we hunt terrorists instead of animals. every hunt gives an additional gun as a bonus to hunt more. howz that!!
KILL TAMIL TIGERS LIKE WILD GAME, A KILL FOR EVERY HUNTER.//
yaaa u gottit....
the same problem here too..
our bullets alsoo goin to be expire...
u know y???
cos our bullets just captured from you guys so...
hmmmm
so send them ...
we ofcourse tired but also its ok no-problem...
NICE GAME...
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actually there is a very valid point in anuradhapura being made the administrative capital. that would make govt. employees migrate into the area & expand northwards.
it'll have a rich outlook with all the UN recognized world heritage sites all around it.
the administrative offices in colombo can remain as it is servicing the western province.
coupled with a few agricultural & irrigation projects it will balance out the ridiculous mono ethnic imbalance of the northern area after the sinhala & muslims were chased out by the tamils.
either the northern tamils should invite & welcome these sinhala & muslim people back or we should start expanding northwards from anuradhapura to compensate for that. nobody seems to be much bothered about these sinhala & muslim people who had to walk out of the north within 24 hours leaving all their life savings & properties/businesses behind. they were allowed to take only their clothes.
such a terrible crime has not happened in asia since the partition of india.
what about the grievances of these sinhala & muslim people?
That video posted by tiger boy is chilling! It is cold blooded murder. I am sure they are our boys ambushed by blood thirsty tigers who do not have any heart or soul.
After seeing that who can be sympathetic with Tamil Diaspora because this what Diaspora did to us, not wanni Tamils.
SLG should arrest any suspected Diaspora Tamils if ever returned to the island after the war and land them in prison with hard labour for rest of their life. They may be thinking of coming back once LTTE is no more to enjoy their fruits of their hard work.
any news about WANANGA MANN?
romeo,
it cuts both ways.
the LTTE is getting hit much worse. so to boost their morale they had to produce a fake video. don't fall for it.
in sharp contrast we don show anything just to keep things nice & quiet.
but our guys are having a ball up in the north. ha ha ha!
That video posted by tiger boy is chilling! It is cold blooded murder. I am sure they are our boys ambushed by blood thirsty tigers who do not have any heart or soul.
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SLA is the best in harvesting Terrorist.. Ape Sinha Petaw..
Velu,
Dear, you didn’t get it! Our boys are fighting a fair game face to face but what I have seen in that video is cold blooded murder.
Have seen how they shoot to people hiding at far corner of the truck? They must be going on leave for couple of weeks and being ambushed by hyenas.
I have difficulty to fathom it.
Crimewatch ponnaya. Hila thama e size mada?
ur entitiled to ur opinion.
i think the video is fake. too smooth & cinematic.
OsZa ..
Ammage da?
pregnant suicide attempt gone wrong.
or could be a pregnant sinhala civilian hacked to death by a ponnna ranil supporter/LTTE kariya. ha ha ha!
or a photoshop job by a dumb LTTE artist.
ow.umbage ammage thamai.
umba danne naththam karadara wennepa hoyanna.man dan cal kara umbalage ammata.ennam kiwa ada rata. ethakota man ma balagannam.
Defence wire aunty seems to have got the white van ride..
Romeo;
Your waiting does not make any importance to me :) This is not Wanathe handiya for you to stand waiting to catch me for whatever fight.
BTW, when I read your posts it looked very much like that you/RC were advocating that tamils in wanni will be given some piece of land to live and their rest of farmlands should be given to outsiders/SLDF-retired/yourself. Pardon me if you did not mean this.
In the pretext you meant so; I found it as very racist and surely surpassing the wording some of our bloggers use when they fight with cyber terrorists.
Yes I stand by with anyone believing that these cyber terrorists and their undercover operatives should be attacked at anyway possible, be it saying MF or whorebitch. But I do not want to debate about that. It is MY stand point.
ammata hudu.. OSZA, belliyontath gahanawa ehenam... ai umbe geni "BOLL" da? huththa harahata hitalada?
e kiyanne umbama piligannawa neda umbe amma balli kiyala.
Sujeewa Kothalawela
your frequent reference to "Vanathe Handiya's", "Mudukku's" and street fights simply shows your character and confirm where your parents have originated from.......
OSZA, Sinha denuwo onetharam innawa dickmans road eke, kolamba watetama, deddha ussagena...innawa, madiwata sinhapore eth huththila natanawa.
Ponna rilawa. "wesige putha" umba wagema mamath Sinha'la Denuwo gahanne naha.
aniwarayenma... neththam kohomada tho wage belli puka imbina ekawa andura ganne?
ballo nambukarai sinha denuwanta wada... pakaya, amma thaththa lamai hadunne nethi keri ponnaya tho, jathiye hetida manda. paraya, sivura piting umbale eththo badugahanawa you tube eke ubalage ewunma dala thiyenawa, kumana kathada thawa..
deddha?????
deddha neme ponna patiyo. reddha
CriMeWatCh ranilgey ponna puka inmbina UNP ponnayek wagey.vajira.
ha ha ha!
velluprabhakaran said...
CriMeWatCh will have to stop watching his mom's ass & watch his own ass. ha ha ha!
Idont do such thing which u does. anunge puke engilidala imbana jathiya tho, mata kiyanna enawada? hodisiyen hitapang umbe ammath ethi dikmas pare. eta nethi rilawa.
sinhapore????sinhapore neme ponna patiyo singapore
CriMeWatCh rayappu joseph gey sakkily paiya lewa kana ekek wagey.
ponna ranilgey puka saha rayappugey paiya. ha ha ha!
now now ponna patiya. I told you to take your time. Its Dickmans para. not dickmas para.lol
LTTE counter striks sends SLA back to their 2005 FDL lines.
Latest updated eezham (eelam) orbat map
reddha nemei umbe ammage huththa..
thoth ekai DN uth ekai. Moda pakkonta puluwand spelling mistake hoyanna witharai.
vellu, MR'ge paiya uranawa wage
lol
Hey machanla,
Dont worry about that ambush video... I'm so sure that it was taken in year 2000 or 2001. The reason is, just look at the truck, its a US M35 truck..
actually USA donated us 300 used M35s in 2000..
They were given to operational areas. In around year 2004 we removed all the M35s from service bcoz of the lack of spare parts.
Ithin machanla oya video eka gena worry wenna epa... Dan Army eka troops geniyanna trucks ganne ne.. Unibuffels & WZ551 thama use karanne. Godak secure area wala tractors wala yanna denawa.. eka nisa dan ohoma dewal wenne ne..
E kale hitapu pakayala nisa ape kollo kochchara nikan marunada..
Dan ehema wenne ne...
Seems like crimewatch has got something against all the gon spots in Sri lanka...wonder who he caught prostituting in the famous gon spots in Sri lanka? his momma or his wife?
crimewatch keep cool mate. There is nothing you can do about it. what is done is done. You cant change it now
osza, hu hoo. entire country knows that ponnaya. huththila hemathenama. aithihasika Anura'purath gombaduwalin piri ithihasagatha wela. BTW protect ur mother.
osza said...
crimewatch keep cool mate. There is nothing you can do about it. what is done is done. You cant change it now
OSZA balu vu heti. mama kiwwe thamuse wesa ballek kiyala.
Yesssssss
the best....
Carvestion HUMAN...
ha ha haaaaa
I AGREEEED
CriMeWatCh unbey patta wesi ammata mama eeye hikuwa weley eki hariyata anduwa umba ponnayek kiyala. unba ranilgey saha rayapputa kiyala daily pukey ara ganna ekata e patta wesita hari upset.
patta wesiyek unath eki amma kenekney. andala andala eki mata kiwwa umba umbey thathawa thama dekala ney kiyala puluwan nang hoyala denna kiwwa. eki kyanawa rayappu joseph badu karaya ekita hikuwa hinda u umbey thatha wenna athi kiyala. aney manda.
ha ha ha!
Guys,
Still that old debate on N-E lands going on.
I think the govt is a mere facilitator not a system designer. They should do following after war is won.
1. Make sure they buy the lands of HSZ and improve the military hold of the region.
2. Rehabilitate gun runners, either take the paramilitaries to SLDF [after training and civilizing them]. That option shud not be given to pussycats. It shud be surrender or death.
3. Hunt and kill every terrorist left [unless surrendered], including TMVP foul players.
4. Make firm rules against seprataion or ethnic segregation. Punish anyone playing with that.
5. Allow civilians settle. This is a gradual process. Notably this covers sinhala and muslim people too.
6. Use state lands to provide living for the people, provide irrigation and industry.
7. Abolish all rules that limit freedom.
8. Promote N-E entrepreneurship to people in South. And of course expats. Make sure that expats do not use this for organized separatism.
9. As an obligation provide safety to those people. Monitor happenings. Arrest anyone trying another Vadukkodai convention.
List may go on. But I hope you see the direction I want to go. It is a very stable solution and all parties will be happy, other than terrorists and separatists.
guys, is DefenceWire MIA?
How come we haven't had any update
for so long...
I can understand your concern. Since you couldnt protect your momma you are trying at least save others' mommas. Ponna patiyage honda gathi naththeth na.. ponna kama loketa pennanna hoo hoo kiyapu eka thama honda naththe
crime watch ponna patiyo...here boy here...
ane....ponna patiyage hitha ridunada???andanna epa ponna patiyo.. man wihiluwakne kare
welluballa
Tho hithuwada thoge amma paththini kiyala, ratawatema reddha ussagena yanawa penne nedhdha? thopige profile pic eka balapang... umbe heti toilet hodana gamang thoge amma gaththu photo eka wenna ethi.
keri ponnaya
Sujeewa Kokawala,
the sla colonisation of the north east is going to happen. nobody can stop it. we cannot take any chance after what happened for 30 continuous years.
the north will end up like the east after PC elections. there will be a guy like karuna or pilleyan appointed to run it under us. tough luck for peelamists.
peelam dream down the drain.
anna honda ponna patiya. Dan redhdha kiyala hariyata kiyanna igenagena.
Dan kiyanna balanna dickmans para kiyala
thopila wage burana ballo dekala duwana jathi nemwi keri potta ponna wesawo mama. denaganing amma thaththa malli nangi hadunnane nethi sinha petaw pol pithtthenuth kapaganna puluwang.
gve the spect to get the spect, which the majority doesn't have/has
CriMeWatCh umbey patta wesi amma ada ratath enawa kiwwa mata kiyala hukawa ganna harahata. eki asai e widihata. umbath waren kota kalisamak gahala ponnaya wagey.
mama rayappuwa gennala thiyannang. unmba uta kiyala pukey araganing. nathhang umbata nikang ulamek wagey uda balagena inna wey mama umbey patta wesi ammata harahata hukanakang.
naala puka hodagena wareng. sakkiliyek wagey ganda gaha gaha enna epa. ha ha ha!
nemewi neme crimewatch ponna patiyo. nemei.
CriMeWatCh warshaye maha ponnayata hariyata waradila wagey. wachanath okkoma out. ha ha ha!
thamunta typo vitharai lokuwata penne. wetunath revule mada gevune naha wage. ponnaya.
vellu balla
umbe amma mata kiyala kosu mitak kapagena giya. minihek nethuwa ethi hukanna. patta belligeth belli thoge amma. mama nam lngin wath yanne naha umbala ge ammawath umbawath gevuna thenatawath. umbala ape gawata enawa misak.
paraya
osza, Velu
Why are you guys attacking crimewatch?
CriMeWatCh umbala wagey maha ponnayonta maha lokuwata paynney ranil ponnayagey puka witharai. ethaning ehata pukey goo thamai paynney. ha ha ha!
umbata ma gawata enna bari nam gedara indala type karana gaman hukawa ganing. travelling ithuru kara ganna puluwan.
umbey patta wesa ammawa matak kara kiyapan. ha ha ha!
ask him.
Velu, Moshe,
OR ELSE,
Tigers dressed in SLA planned the ambush. SLA intel came to know and got SLA commandos dressed as Tigers to counter-ambush them!!
Video released so that Tigers will plan more ambushes so that SLA can do more harvesting!
vellu, umba toilet hodana bawa lokema danie. thawa kumana kathada.
JWick,
difficult to say. but it looks staged. that's what i think.
Velu;
SLA is not a colonization macho. It is a formal military step taken by a concerned country. It is a must and they should do whatever is necessary for that. The places should be recognized as HSZ.
The discussion about civil life and ethnic integration. Also devolution.
CriMeWatCh,
umba toilet hodana ewunta puka denawa kiyala lokema danee.
nethang lejja nethuwa uda paniney naha ungey ewata. ha ha ha!
CrimeWatch:
"good one, MODAKAMA LOKETAMA PRADARSHANE KALA SINHAYEK."
I do not agree.
Surely, when in Rome...
If the immigrants cannot be arsed to integrate in to the mainstream British community, the first step of which would be learning/speaking English, then they can fuck off back to where they came from, let them be Sinhalese, Tamils, Eastern Europeans, Muslims, Somalians, you name it. The majority of immigrants, as Deva Kumarasiri rightly points out, expects the majority (i.e.: the English) to bend over backwards to accommodate the minorities, while they themselves take NO STEPS WHATSOVER to become a part of the mainstream society. Such immigrants and their attitudes alone are a curse to the country they live in, leave aside all other problems that are brought in by them immigrants.
Sujeewa Kokawala,
machang, it won't be officially called colonization. it will happen naturally. the tamils will be too weak to resist it. in fact they may welcome it to ensure that their children get a better future.
a lot will be revealed after all the remaining tamil civilians are counted. I am sure the proper numbers were highly exagerated for the benefit of LTTE.
for example the muslims could be dangerously close to the tamils in numbers in the two provinces as well as the whole island.
I am not in favour of discounting the ethnically cleansed sinhala & muslim people of the north. their numbers should be replenished somehow.
the only devolution tamils will get maximum is PC's. they won get anything more. that's for sure. cheers!
Hi Ppl...
Was it ""Army suffers temporary setback"
or going to be a permenent????
ooooooooooops
Tiger Boy has gone bonkers after he lost iranapalai junction. ha ha ha!
yaaaaaa
//velluprabhakaran said...
Tiger Boy has gone bonkers after he lost iranapalai junction. ha ha ha!
//
thats true but...
u seee there r somany small small fight in the CAPTURED area bro...
wats this...
SLA have not cleared those area yet??
or..
actuly SLA DIN`T cptured those area REALLY???
ha ha haaa...
crimewatch ponna patiyo..mama umbe amma hambenna giya poddata tho vellu ta kiyala arawagena neda?
Ppl talk like...
all these captured area by SLA is just they capturec the main roads ONLY..
ther are soooo many dark are even not clear yet...
how can we beliv SLA done all those area under full controls which anounced as captured..????
Tiger boy.No SLA is still at mavilaru..lol
Long live China!!
http://www.dailymirror.lk/DM_BLOG/Sections/frmNewsDetailView.aspx?ARTID=43906
No Ozas...
u seee..
there are still fighting in those ares...
then how come it happening???
wats wrong with our SLA opperation guys????
you se...
if it happen continusly..
our SLA has to go backward to do another opperation ti finish LTTE...
then every losses will be really useless till...
hmmmmm
sooooooooo sooo worrying...
Yeah thats what I am saying tiger boy. SLA still fighting at mavilaru. Its very worrying. VERY WORRYING
mmm yaaaaa
hmmmm lets wait for the next move then....
Yes tiger boy. LET'S WAIT AND SEE.
panhinda,
"One of the primary motivation for the Eastern Tamil to join LTTE was the colonisation scare."
NO, mate.
if you compare violence in districts where colonisation took effect (ampara and trinco) and the other (batti), you can see VERY CLEARLY where violence was HIGHEST!!!
the main reason was NOT NIPPING IT IN THE BUD. the second reason is poverty.
unlike in the north at the start, the eastern terrorists were not at all educated. poverty was the main thing.
NOW the govt IS carrying out colonisation in the east and it is on recond pillayan has aired his displeasure for govt sponsored colonisation. but it is ontinuing and now he has given up.
the solution is NOT giving up colonisation BUT to handle the terrorists!!
terrorists WILL come with ANY EXCUSE to create trouble. if we tumble upon ANY ONE of those, then we are in shit. we should do what is right by the country REGARDLESS and handover the SLDFs the rest.
tigers can say the same fcuking bullshit about weli oya but so what. we are here to stay.
IF we had NOT colonised the east, the battle for east would have been as nasty as the battle in the north.
sujeewa,
mate, that remaining suspicion can be driven away by ethnic integration. i mean real integration in neighbourhoods of present monoethnic "enclaves" where suspicion breeds.
agree with the rest.
{Little hope of an enduring end to Sinhalese victimisation of Sri Lanka's Tamils
by Howard Debenham
On May day in 1993, Sri Lankan president Ranasinghe Premadasa was in the back streets of Colombo, greeting supporters as they streamed into the capital for the day's festivities, when he was killed by a suicide bomb. Had the conventions of diplomacy permitted it, I would probably have been at his side. He had been insistent that I should join him on this occasion.
In the previous year, Premadasa had allowed me to see some of the handiwork of the Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam. Before the bodies were cleared away, I spoke with some of the shattered survivors of LTTE massacres of simple farming folk in the pitifully poor eastern villages of Palyagodella and Alinchipotana, in one instance crouching with a wild-eyed labourer over the pools of drying blood where his family had had their throats cut. But neither Premadasa nor his successors were as accommodating when it came to investigating the handiwork of government forces, which has so often been of equal savagery.
By the time of his assassination, however, Premadasa was coming around. Among other things, he allowed a limited review by a small group of ambassadors (myself included) of the widespread extrajudicial killings and disappearances of Tamils at the hands of government forces.
It is often overlooked that Tamil militarism was, in the first place, spawned by the deliberate demonisation of Tamils (both Hindu and Muslim) in the early years of Sri Lanka's independence from Britain.
The situation took a significant turn for the worse following the failure of Junius Jayawardene's government to promptly intervene in the deliberate slaughter of thousands of innocent Tamils over just a few days in 1983.
In his retirement, an unrepentant Jayawardene explained to me at his residence in Colombo in 1992 that, following a tit-for-tat killing of policemen by Tamil militants, 1983 had been about giving the Tamils a "bloody nose" to "put them in their place". He scoffed at the notion that the country's Tamils were as Sri Lankan as the Sinhalese. Jayawardene was not alone in this view then, nor is he now. It is therefore hardly surprising that many Tamils feel it is only the spectre of the Tigers and their ability to strike back that prevents further pogroms against their people.
The answer for many Tamils to the Government's failure to broker a peace has been to flee the country to either the refugee camps of southern India or, for the more fortunate, a new start in other countries. This is happening in such numbers that they are referred to as the Tamil diaspora.
For those trapped in the north during the current Government offensive, the risk of accepting a "haven" on the Government side must be weighed against the risk of putting themselves in the hands of Government forces.
The essential interest of Sri Lanka's Sinhalese political parties and personalities is still how to exploit the struggle with the Tigers to maintain power in Colombo. Successive governments have more or less dressed up their intention to negotiate to assuage the feelings of the United Nations and donor countries, including Australia, but not nearly enough to fool any informed observer into believing that the underlying issue of rapprochement between Sinhalese and Tamils is any more on the government's agenda than it was 50 years ago.
There is little hope of an enduring end to Sinhalese victimisation of Sri Lanka's Tamils until Sri Lanka produces the kind of courageous and visionary leadership that can admit the errors of the past and reach out in a sustained way to all Sri Lankans, thus providing a sound basis for drawing all Tamils, including the Tigers, into the political process.
The Sri Lankan government did this with the murderous Communist Janatha Vimukthi Peramuna (JVP) back in the late '80s after its violent uprising had almost brought the country to its knees. But that, it seems, was different: the JVP was Sinhalese. Unhappily, the vision required today, free of the deeply embedded political and financial corruption that has plagued Sri Lanka for so long, is nowhere in sight.
Ordinary Sri Lankans, disempowered and cowed through decades of dominance by the business and political elite and effective exclusion from the rule of law, are still easily duped into believing that they will be better off once the Tamils have been crushed.
It is at least doubtful that the LTTE can be completely wiped out by Sri Lankan President Mahinda Rajapaksa's salaried soldiers, who are largely in it for the money they cannot earn at home. Government forces should certainly be able to outgun the LTTE in military set pieces, but it is most unlikely that they will ever be able to match them in guerilla warfare.
Having so loudly abandoned the peace process, the Rajapaksa Government is throwing everything into the military fray. Though this approach is being backed with claims of higher body counts and significant incursions into Tiger territory, the consequence of pushing the military arm of the LTTE to the wall could well be a dramatic upsurge in urban terrorism, of which the recent mosque bombing in Akuressa would only be the beginning. It is an option for which, after all the years of its existence, the LTTE is no doubt well prepared.
Should infrastructure, transport and even tourism become systematic targets in such a campaign, Sri Lanka could be brought to its knees. Rajapaksa, or whoever is in power, would then have to think again about a peace process, but this time from a weaker position than the one that applied through much of 2006, when a small group of uniquely qualified Americans and a former Australian high commissioner quietly tried, working with the highest levels of the Sri Lankan Government, to build capacity for statesmanship and progress before peace talks with the LTTE scheduled for Geneva in October of that year. As it turned out, Sri Lanka's leaders only pretended to listen, and so doomed a country and a people once so full of promise to more mindless death and destruction, the worst of which may yet be to come.
Howard Debenham was Australian high commissioner to Sri Lanka from 1992 to 1994}
I was fortunate (or unfortunate) to have a personal dialogue with this gentleman on a few occasions in Colombo and in Aus.
He was also a "friend" of the SL cricket team during the Murali-Hair incident.
his comment.."salaried soldiers, who are largely in it for the money they cannot earn at home"
This was possibly true years gone by not so now.
Rajiva W has already responded to this very same comment.
if these sakkiliyas try to do anything smart, SLDFs should screw them in the sea
they have no right to land in SL.
april 14 is the expected berth date off vanni. since april 16 is the start of the indian election, i'm sure the war would be over by then.
as things go, war might drag on till then. this can be a rescue operation of vezapillai and other senior LTTE sakkiliyas.
KILL THEM ALL. SHOW NO MERCY.
i agree with moshe's theory of poverty. tamils want to keep us in poverty to make their dream come true. it's obvious from the cut & paste jobs of peelam supporters.
poverty breeds hatred. it's a powder keg with an open fuse. anyone can light it up. the easiest to light is racial hatred.
tamil western backers are getting mired in financial messes themselves. soon there will be lots of presure on dieasspora fund collecting. with LTTE defeat things will get worse exponentially for LTTE supporters.
I think they will shift to tamil nadu or somewhere. all the signs are there. i won be surprised if a few claymors go off in chennai soon.
remember that in vadukoddai their argument was that since tamils don have a homeland they have to get one. so they distorted history & chose sri lanka. at that time we were the weakest in the area. then they started attacking. since we are very strong now tamils might slowly shift somewhere else.
so we must encourage & help the shift from sri lanka to shit nadu in whichever way possible.
ha ha ha!
vellu,
you can check for yourself how many fcuking development projects were carried by the sakkili arsholes elected in the north-east tamil areas from 1947 to 2009.
NOTHING!!
ever heard of TNA, TULF, etc, talking about development???
NEVER.
ONLY EPDP is intersted in development. now TMVP too.
that is why those who have arseaches about the JHU have cuntaches about the EPDP.
we must pressurise the british government not to violate our borders.
I am sure india won like it one bit.
Are the guys who attribute the silence of DefenceWire to the success of 58 - and Brigadier Shavendra Silva for that matter - right?
In that case, we have to wait until Brigadier Prasanna Silva makes a breakthrough on the Challai Front!
A new virtue: Let's maintain our loyalty to the favourite commander even in the midst of war; come what may.
the truth of the matter is DW lost some of its credibility with this posting.
hope DW is not mahen or like mahen.
ha ha ha!
china rules. china, pakistan, iran & russia are the only credible allies of SL or anybody else.
they want to help us & get something in return. all others have colonial mentality, double standards & are out to make a fast buck by creating trouble. corrupt officials make matters worse.
ranils international western safety net is full of massive holes.
Velu;
Other than my reluctance to call our official SLDF activities as "colonization" I fully agree.
Moshe;
I agree fully. But the integration of people should happen in a friendly context. Not by forced colonies, which I think as a possible cause for future menace. GOSL shud facilitate and endorse it fully. But public movements should be natural.
In fact, if SLDF can assure that there are no hidden gunmen, and SLDF can assure business safety, a lot of ppl will move there for business entrepreneurship. SL is not in 70s or 80s. Life is far more dynamic.
Especially considering the fact that there are little jobs in south and there are little educated number of ppl in north, if you let it free many jobs will surely go to ppl of south.Places like banks, offices, hotels etc.
What we shud avoid are the laws and de-facto laws that block such movements. We need strong laws to punish anyone trying foul play.
If things happen naturally nobody will feel upset. Of course diaspora will be. See how Sivanesan says that there shud not be irrigation projects. GOSL has obligation ton develop every part of it.
Let diaspora resolve their inability to accept ethnic integration. I am sure that war-ravaged innocent SL population will be willing to take life and humanity against race and destruction.
china's decision is a good message to india too. india must be getting the message loud & clear.
HANDS OFF SRI LANKA.
china won't let their billion $ projects in SL go to waste with changes of govt or stoppage of war at this stage.
in fact they will keep supporting MR/SLFP for as long as it takes. it's obvious that china is the source of MR's strength. not india. china plays a very powerful yet hidden role to safeguard mahinda & PA.
I see china winning our trust & getting very powerful in this region. tough luck for india & westerners who specialise in double games.
as the red indian chief said "white man speaks with a forked tongue". so do the indians.
Vellu...
Its probably why China has not banned the LTTE as a terrorist organisation as they consider it to be "merely an internal matter"
Ring! Ring!
Duzz,
Please intercept this communication.
Sujeewa,
the northern tamils will completely lose any taste for tamil liberators after this civilian killing episode.
I am sure they will recognize their natural inability to rule themselves & the cosequences they will have to suffer under a tamil leader not supervised by the central government.
from now they will trust our army more than their own leaders. pro SL people like douglas, karuna & pilleyan will stand to benefit.
That's why I am sure devolution is as dead as a dodo.
Hi Crimewatch,
Is your daughter in your profile picture
Lets talk about her
How old is she?
Still a virgin?
3766 posts!!!!!
man this must be some kind of a record.....
DW what's going on?
evening folks....
I think that a strong competitor to UN should be created. UN has become a kind of liability.
jack1234,
Post another comment to add to the count.
hmm..yes
China, Pakistan, Iran & Russia have possibly the worst Human Rights record are allies of SL.
Very Good!
Birds of a feather flock together!
DW needs to get his finger out!
Jay,
You've missed something: allies of Sudan are allies of Sri Lanka.
wrong as usual.
LTTE has the best record. just ask the civilians who are getting shot by the saviour. ha ha ha!
DW needs laxatives.
Indeed Velu. Not only that, once established, Nothern PC will be a gag on all international mouths.
velluprabhakaran said...
LTTE has the best record. just ask the civilians who are getting shot by the saviour.
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Civilians are off limits. How can we ask?
velluprabhakaran....
your analysis of chinese role in strengthening our military is correct.....
but we should not align ourselves to any emerging world power as a matter of policy...
it will be counter productive...
name of the game is to play the powers , both regional and world AKA US/Russia/india/China against each other to our advantage..
using our country's strategic location in the middle of shipping routes... as the trump card..
but a permanent alliance is biting more than we can swallow..
Ooops!
I forgot, DefenceLK and ArmyLK will ask on our behalf.
get off ur comfort zone & stop pretending. u sound like a repeating groove. ha ha ha!
"ha ha ha!"
children getting shot by the saviour in front of their mothers.
I think DW crossed wrong lines in past few posts. I believe we are in his last posting.
On the other hand DW showed signs of inability to grasp front line news recently. SLDF changed the operational methods, and a very little number of divisions are in face to face war. So it is possible that most of his informants are in reserve.
Anyway, his last post on 58th was way too much in my measure. And that is why I argued with him.
velluprabhakaran said...
children getting shot by the saviour in front of their mothers.
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Yes, this should be hidden from international media. That's the best way to save the perpetrators. Modayas aren't that stupid; ban on media isn't without reasoning.
Hi peter pan.
Did you ask your "ammie" why low caste tamiles don't have a right to live?
Brace yourselves. The investment wanker is here
osza,
I am still giggling at 'wanker'; I'll ask once that's over.
In the meantime, you've avoided the poor Sinhala dude's cries about Sinhalese killing 50, 000 fellows in just two years for being poor.
Sujeewa Kokawala...
I really don't buy into the theory that DW has an agenda/an axe to grind against 58 DIV.
the crux of his post was that 58 did not react in time and mismanaged the LTTE counter attack that cost us albeit temporarily real estate they had fought tooth and nail to capture and destruction of 3 artillery units with 3 sets of crew that is a significant loss...
he did not brush that under the carpet....or white wash it...
that I admire...
most likely he was put off by the frankly silly personal attacks on him by the conspiracy theorists...
Of all the abuse that has been thrown in my direction during the past year here, I have to admit, 'investment wanker' by JWick, osza, et.al. has been the best.
Share your award sunshines.
Ok peter.I'll ask your momma myself. She is waiting for me in room number 125. Got to go. Take care investment wanker.
'investment wanker' is so cruel and offensive.
I can't take it any more. I am running away.
jack1234,
it's not only military. china is the only real strength that we have now for anything.
although we don seem to realise the importance EVERYTHING rests on china.
the whole western model of governance & allegiances are under scrutiny. they've gone to the dust bin & cannot be trusted anymore.
for example AIG bank was taken to task & stopped from paying bonuses to their directors from the bailout money. bonuses from the public bailout for doing bad in business.
I am sure this act exeeds any communist govt. ever.
does not mean we have to be aligned to one at the expense of others. does not mean the end of capitalism either. never. it's not capitalism that has gone awry. it's the whole western model.
it means people can be bought for money to pressurise governments that are fighting for survival against terrorism.
it means to know ur enemy & ur friend. that helps in times of difficulty. the true friend will always fight for u. (unlike vesapillai who pretends to be friends & kills people after using them).
ha ha ha!
DW is most likely an active duty SLA officer...
I'd say with general Staff level clearance...
what he was doing was admirable..
at great risk to his professional life..
so DW ,if you are watching this mate...
keep up the good work..
don't let few misguided folks take the shine off your work...
and if you need a serious answer to your question they were not killed for being poor, but for taking arms against democratically elected Sri Lankan Government. Just like your darling LTTE pussycats are murdered en mass for taking arms against the Sri Lankan Gvt
Divaina on Wanking-Man ship
sujeewa,
absolutely!
hope the govt will look beyond tamil elamists' allegations and do it.
otherwise we will be back in square 1.
thereafter it will be excuses to create trouble again until TE.
peter has to extract 20 year old sinhala problems to counter the present tamils murder tamils problem.
why don't u go back further & inquire about why vesapillai murdered mayors?
ha ha ha!
stop the vananga man KALLATHONIS!!
DON'T LET THEM LAND ON MY COUNTRY.
veapillai could escape in the ship.
there could be suicide cadres inside.
so it must be stopped. or sunk. or rammed. too bad.
Navindran,
Check this out man. ...Sorry Lanka is going down the tube fast.
http://www.newkerala.com/nkfullnews-1-6546.html
Guys please leave some comments here.. cheers...
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/asia/article5941602.ece
Wanking Man ship will never come. Take my word.
Ask Nedumaran what happened to him. Learn from that TN goon who fasted for 4 days and gave up his fast-unto-death due to health concerns.
Agree that there are tamils who would die for Eelam by burning themselves, but they're not intelligent enough to steer a ship. The intelligent ones in B/G will never commit a bit for the lost cause.
Next operation for diaspora.
"How to find a reason to stop the ship and put the blame on GOSL"
Previous failed missions.
"How to put the Genocide [conduicted by them and Pussycats] blame on SLDF"
"How to burn/fast and prove that it is a fault of Sri Lanka"
Successful missions.
"How to give resignations of Lok Sabha members and take it back"
When you make cheating a living, you forget what you do and cheat yourself. Diaspora and TN tamil community are self cheating on themselves. Poor ignorant who waste petrol in burning their filthy bodies and fighting a surely loosing war.
"Peter said...
Of all the abuse that has been thrown in my direction during the past year here, I have to admit, 'investment wanker' by JWick, osza, et.al. has been the best.
Share your award sunshines.
That is not fair my friend! I am the SOLE REPRESENTATIVE of that.
Situation Report Vanni
Dear All,
Today Mathalan hospital received 52 civilian causalities including 12 under 15 year children.
5 died after admission.
ICRC patients transportation ship ‘’Green Ocean’’ arrived and 440 are first time going to Pulmoddai Indian Military team hospital.
Drugs were not sent to Mathalan hospital and doctors not reported duty because of non- availability of medicines.
Food loaded ship will come tomorrow.
People are busy with rearranging bunkers.
Regards,
Dr Sathyan
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Update on civilians
Guys,
Pussy Boys "ambush" video has been COUNTER-AMBUSHED!!
HA HA HA!
THEY ARE TRUE FRIENDS OF SRI LANKA!
http://www.colombopage.com/archive_09/March20140953JV.html
{A person possessing drugs has been taken into custody from the vehicle of Malaka Silva’s vehicle when he arrived at the election office of UPFA candidate for Western PC election Duminda Silva at Maharagama. Malaka Silva is Minister Dr. Mervin Silva’s son.
When officers from ‘City Branch’ at Maharagama arrived to search the vehicle on information received Malaka Silva had fled and the person who had driven the vehicle known as ‘Diesel’ has taken the responsibility of having drugs in the vehicle.
Investigations being conducted reveal that drugs had been brought to be given to Mervin Silva’s and his sons’ men who are working with Duminda Silva for the election campaign of the UPFA.]
I love this family!
Sujeewa Kokawala said...
Divaina on Wanking-Man ship
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Let them come, we can impound the ship as well as the goods. It would be good. We can use this white ship to create our new, white van to white ship delivery service.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlj_wtpsLno&feature=related
Many of you would have seen the above.
Forget the rant by GR.I'm sure copies would have been made and sent to various interested parties.
But- I found the comments by the aid worker at the end of the clip most interesting.
@Sujeewa Kokawala
[ BTW, when I read your posts it looked very much like that you/RC were advocating that tamils in wanni will be given some piece of land to live and their rest of farmlands should be given to outsiders/SLDF-retired/yourself. Pardon me if you did not mean this.]
I will never advocate this. Let's say SLG has 500 acres of land that no one has the claim: Divide that to 2 acre lands and offer to 250 families maintaining the ethnic proportion in Sri Lanka. So, 75% to Sinhalese, 10% Tamil, and 15% to Muslims.
I don't think most of us are trying to implement racist policies. We are trying to re-settle Sinhalese back in the area.
For you to call them racist without questioning details is very irresponsible.
phew!
RC/SK just as well you guys dont make policy decisions for the GOSL.
I hate to see this conflict prolonging and/or kick starting again and lasting another 30 - 40 years by implementing your suggestions.
jay
If we don't do this during next 10 years, de ja vu.
North has access to 50 million Tamils and you see how they brought truck load of weapons using this region.
These kind of policy implementations aren't for the soft hearts.
I agree with RC on two accounts:
1. Most Tamil Diaspora guys who were instrumental to the carnage we experienced during last 30 years or so still owns properties in North and east. Some of them may come back or try to sell their properties at higher price once the war is over.
2. Those who went to India during and after 83 riots are also waiting to come back.
When these people come back; they will bring the Tamil problem with them and that could be a three times as much as the original problem. If we do not address the threat they pose properly, SL will be in trouble again.
I do not sympathise with above two crowds but whole heartedly sympathise with Wanni Tamil peasants.
We must settle Sinhala people in north and east to keep population balance similar to other areas and beef up security in the north and east without making those areas vulnerable to traitorous activity again. We also need quite number of new naval bases to secure coastal line from illegal activities.
However, I do not believe in provincial councils or administrative capital being moved to ether Trico or Anuradhapura.
It is incredible how a leaderless bunch of terrorists and ex smugglers manage to hold up this long in a small area surrounded by 3 divisions.Prebakaran is long gone in the Tsunami as I mentioned many times as there’s no credible evidence to the contrary unless he had changed his voice since the Tsunami perhaps this myth is supported by the Norwegians who had had ‘met him’ for reasons only known to them. Tamils by nature needs a figurehead to follow and worship and less they see him the mystery that is created thus enhance their attachment to whom, just as the idols they worship. That’s suits fine for the conniving leaders in the Diaspora who are making money on this fake cause and the Tamil Nadu politicians who are jockeying for power using this supposed to be a liberation struggle of a few people left behind to fend themselves who are now living on the generous care and handouts of the GOSL. When all areas are captured the troops will either find a fake or none who claim to be VP.
Really cold
‘These kinds of policy implementations aren't for the soft hearts.’
I too once believed in settling people from the South and putting up military garrisons here and there but I am afraid it’s not going to work but it might worsen the situation drawing in the TN into our internal affairs. There are obvious problems that will follow a such a scheme.
Israel tried it in West bank and Gaza and see the mess they are in, because they allowed the Jewish religious extremists to spearhead and settle there and they caused all the resentments which President carter warned about during his presidency. The extremists dug out the olive orchards, farms, arab settlements that was owned by the Palestinians from the times of Christ claiming to be Jewish holy sites thus dislodging it’s inhabitants and when you do that one loses the battle as the dislodged will be your enemy within that will attract international condemnation and even resentment that will strengthen the Diaspora further. Our nationalist, thugs and religious bigots are going to move up there making things worse. I sadly hear that they want to make one disputed island into a sacred area that might attract the wroth of the Tamil Nadu.It should instead be made an island of peace, perhaps even welcoming the fishermen from TN under the strict supervision of our navy. We must have the Tamil nadu people on our side and have the Tamils left behind in the island on our side and keep on pressing for high standard of life and economic progress where there will be plenty of job and other opportunities for every one.Then cause for resentment and for their own state will vanish.
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