Heavy fighting continues in an area roughly the size of a square kilometer in Puthukudirippu, ahead of the no-fire zone. Task Force 8, the 58 and also the 53 took the brunt of a massive artillery and mortar attack almost carpeting the small area covered in coconut trees during the last two days. Though casualties are reported exact numbers are not available at this time.
Any further advances into the no-fire zone will take time as the Army cannot use its heavy firepower while the Tigers use all the fire power they can muster from gun positions situated inside IDP settlements.
The flow of civilians was continuing steadily until today when only 90 civilians reached Army controlled areas due to the massive shelling from the LTTE. As the week progresses more civilians are expected to come into government areas. So far around 55,000 civilians have returned to government areas. No agency has accurate estimates of the numbers still trapped in the no-fire zone.
Meanwhile the LTTE's cream has started abandoning the organization. The Director of the LTTE's Vanni Institute of Technology (VIT) surrendered to the Army a few days ago. A former Assistant Lecturer at the University of Peradeniya, the VIT Director graduated from the same school as a Computer Engineer and was later recruited by the LTTE while visiting his wife in the Vanni.
Saturday, March 28, 2009
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in three years...
it seems like Moda bandas are like a Tsunami...
mass destructors...lol
TNA Supports Human Shield: Arrest & Prosecute Them for Treason
TNA places no responsibility on LTTE for deaths, injuries and entrapment of Tamil civilians
At a meeting convened by His Excellency the President on Thursday (26) with leaders of parties representing minority communities, at which several Tamil political representatives and the Sri Lanka Muslim Congress participated, reference was made to a communication from the leadership of the Tamil National Alliance, dated 25 March, which was subsequently released to the media.
This letter is carried prominently on many websites, including the plethora of websites that promote separatism, glorify acts of terrorism of the Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam (LTTE) and disseminate propaganda inimical to the interests of the Sri Lankan state and its people.
The call by the TNA to halt armed operations by the Security Forces is singularly unfortunate since it results in manipulating the plight of civilians trapped by the LTTE in this tiny sliver of land, to launch a last-ditch effort to save the terrorist leadership and remaining rank and file, which will be the outcome of any letup in the humanitarian operation to free these civilians from the LTTE's clutches. We note that no allocation of responsibility upon the LTTE, for the entrapment and confinement of these innocent civilians, is made by the TNA. This appears to the Government to be a startling omission.
In considering and responding to the plight of innocent civilians trapped in the "Wanni pocket", the TNA will recall that, from September 2008, His Excellency the President and members of his Government have been earnestly requesting the LTTE to enable civilians to leave the northern theatre of conflict.
The underlying reason for this call was the Government's genuine concern for the civilians' safety and security in the light of impending and intense armed conflict between the Sri Lankan forces and LTTE cadres.
The TNA was non-committal at that time as they, and some others supportive of the LTTE, were seemingly confident of the ability of the "Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam's (LTTE's) military formations" to prevent the rapid advance of Sri Lankan security forces. When civilians were repeatedly positioned by the LTTE at locations in which they were at greater risk, the TNA remained silent.
When the LTTE placed its artillery in a corner of the original No-fire Zone adjacent to the A35 highway and fired into the zone and at the armed forces from these locations, the TNA did not utter a word of condemnation. When H.E. the President made a final appeal to let the civilians leave at the end of January this year, the TNA was again silent, as they were when the LTTE forcibly caused the movement of these civilians to the narrow strip of land they now occupy after preventing the escape of civilians who heeded the President's call. The Government, in recognition of the need to ensure the safety and security of the civilians, declared a second No-fire Zone in early February.
Since then the Government has sent in over 1,250 MT of food and medicines and is to send another 1,020 MT over the next few days. The Government did so with the support of the World Food Programme and with the assistance of the International Committee of the Red Cross.
At the meeting with Tamil political representatives, H.E. the President undertook a personal commitment to ensure that food, medicine and other humanitarian supplies would be sent to uncleared areas of the Wanni in sufficient quantities to ensure that there will not be a shortage of essential goods.
Therefore, the TNA can rest assured that the Government of H.E. the President will do its utmost, as it has consistently done in the past, to alleviate the suffering of these civilians trapped by the LTTE. His Excellency informed the Tamil and Muslim representatives that he was well aware that some of the humanitarian assistance, including food and medicine meant for civilians, was forcibly taken by the LTTE. Despite this, the Government is committed to supplying its people with their basic needs.
Some of the specific issues raised by the TNA are the allegations that the "Sri Lankan armed forces have been bombing the Safe Zone areas by air and artillery fire, killing on an average between 40 to 50 civilians on a daily basis and causing grave injuries to civilians many times more."
As H.E. the President informed the Tamil and Muslim representatives on Thursday, the armed forces are exercising maximum restraint in the current phase of the humanitarian operation. We reiterate that Sri Lankan armed forces do not fire any artillery or any such heavy weaponry into the Safe Zones where civilians have gathered. Neither is there any aerial bombardment of these areas by the Air Force.
However, there have been instances where the LTTE has fired missiles at our helicopters from within the No-fire Zone. The figure of 40 to 50 civilians being killed daily is, we believe, a total exaggeration. It is not possible to state with any certainty that the so-called civilian casualties are not in fact LTTE cadres who have been killed or injured in combat The LTTE's reticence to issue numbers of cadres killed and injured gives credence to the assertion that some of the so called "civilians" are fighting cadres.
The TNA also alleges that "despite the grave humanitarian crisis prevalent in these areas, the government has evicted all international humanitarian organizations and has since imposed restrictions on supplies to these areas tantamount to an embargo on food, medicine, shelter and other basic humanitarian items". This allegation is patently false. International organizations were asked to move out of this area and relocate to Vavuniya in September 2008 because of the prospect of fighting between the Armed Forces and the LTTE and we could not guarantee the safety of these personnel in such circumstances. Concurrently, the Government invited civilians to move to this area as well, so that these agencies could provide them with assistance, complementing the Government's efforts to care for all their needs. There has been no restriction on food, medicine, shelter and other basic humanitarian items. As stated earlier, large amounts of food have been sent to the Mullaitivu area where the civilians are said to be gathered.
The TNA also states that "no independent media is permitted access to this area to report on the situation really prevailing in this area." As in the case of humanitarian agencies (except the ICRC)media cannot be permitted to go to areas where there is fighting between the Armed Forces and the LTTE as the Government cannot guarantee their safety. With LTTE's track record of placing the responsibility on the Armed Forces even when the LTTE kills civilians, allowing the media to have access to these areas will not be prudent. However, the Government has facilitated several visits by local and international journalists to Kilinochchi, Mullaitivu and the IDP centres in Vavuniya. As the situation improves, these visits will be increased.
It is also claimed that: "No functioning hospitals remain in the Vannias government bombing campaigns have destroyed all such facilities. There are gross shortages of medicines..... [as] the government has failed to send adequate medicine. People have died recently as a result of complications which could have been easily treated had there been proper health facilities and medicine." Not a single hospital has been destroyed by aerial bombing or any other artillery fire from Sri Lankan forces.
All the hospitals are intact except in some locations where the LTTE has removed all the fittings and fixtures and rendered these institutions unusable. There is ample evidence to demonstrate this destruction by the LTTE. As reiterated above, people have been repeatedly requested to come to the government controlled areas. However, as the LTTE prevents them from coming over, by threats or sometimes the use of lethal force, civilians have been forced to undergo hardship and the government is aware of their suffering. This is why the Government has sent in several consignments of medical supplies for use by the doctors who remain in uncleared areas to treat urgent cases. It is the desire of the Government to help remove the civilians from the clutches of the LTTE, thus ending their suffering.
The allegation is made that "internally displaced persons do not have any form of toilet facilities. The government has banned all construction materials into the area and as a result building of temporary toilets has not been possible." They also state that "the government has not allowed shelter materials into the area". The supposed lack of sanitation has been highlighted many times and fearsome predictions of the spread of epidemics have been made from time to time which have all proved groundless.There are strict restrictions on sending any construction material because the LTTE will use all such material to build bunkers and bunds to strengthen themselves militarily to impede the advance of the armed forces. Similar restrictions have been imposed on shelter material which can be converted for military uses by the LTTE. However, the Government notes that the TNA themselves state that there are 240,000 persons living under tarpaulins which are a form of temporary shelter used in humanitarian situations worldwide.
The allegation is made that "Even though there are around 300,000 civilians in the relevant areas, the government insists that there are only about 70,000 civilians in the area. This position .... is inconsistent with the assessment of UN and other international agencies who estimate that there are around 200,000 displaced civilians in this area..... food aid and medicine and other essential humanitarian supplies sent is grossly inadequate ... the civilian population is starving to death due to unavailability of medical supplies.... within the last month, several people have died of starvation. The dead have included many children." The number 300,000 is a gross exaggeration. Even the TNA admits of three different figures in its communication. Even UN and INGOs dropped their estimates during the past month by 100,000 - when 56,000 persons managed to escape. It is obvious that there has been a gross over-estimation of persons. Food and medicine that have been sent were based on the reasonable estimates available. The accusation that people have died of starvation cannot be accepted because those civilians that come to the government controlled areas seem to have been adequately fed.
Those civilians have informed that there is no shortage of food as stated by the TNA.
Finally, the TNA states that "Since the beginning of this year alone, over 3000 civilians have been killed in ..... 'safe zones' by bombing campaigns [and] well over 8000 civilians have been gravely injured. ...... civilians are being deliberately targeted. .... food and medicine are being used against the Tamil civilians as a weapon of war."
The government has never used food and medicine as a weapon of war. Indeed the Sri Lankan State is one, if not the only, nation that has fed an armed group who is trying to dismember it by violence. No one can confirm the numbers that have been killed or injured and it is impossible to determine who is an injured or killed combatant when the LTTE, who are not in uniform, mingle with the civilians and fires on Sri Lankan forces from their midst. The LTTE is also stepping up forced recruitment including that of children.
The Sri Lankan Armed Forces have very clearly stated that their operations are conducted in such a manner to as to ensure that no civilians are killed or injured. That is why their advance over the past few weeks has been so slow. His Excellency's instructions to the Armed Forces have been to ensure 100 percent civilian safety. If the allegations of indiscriminate attacks and disregard for civilians were true, the Sri Lankan forces would have overrun the LTTE and liberated the uncleared areas weeks earlier. The Government remains committed to the safety and welfare of civilians. As such, we continue to appeal to the LTTE to free all civilians who are held hostage by them so that the civilians can go to safe areas and IDP villages that are being maintained under the care and control of the Government.
His Excellency was clear in his intention to restore democracy to the Northern Province, just as elections had been held and civil administration restored in the East. He informed the Tamil and Muslim party leaders that it was his intention to conduct local government polls in the Jaffna peninsula as early as possible. Responding to a proposal by Leader of the PLOTE, D. Sidharthan, and the President also assured the political representatives of his willingness to look into the possibility of holding local polls in the Vavuniya District. The President said it was his wish that the people of the North should be empowered to choose their own, freely elected, representatives and encourage political parties to participate in the electoral process. Every assurance of adequate security to conduct an election campaign would be given to every individual and group that comes forward. H.E. the President called on the political leadership of the Tamil people to unite eschewing narrow personal or party agendas and work with the Government to improve conditions for the people in the North and East.
we need that canter truck response for rajafuksa....
damn...who closed that sluice gate in Mavilaru???...
did you guys managed to find him????
what a traitor....
ruined the dreams of 80 million people...
how dare he do such a thing...
Ananda,
"TNA Supports Human Shield: Arrest & Prosecute Them for Treason"
dont worry TNA will also get chinthanised..like JVP and UNP
Karuna ea wage kathawak pasu giya dineka heli karala thiyenawa...
Link
don't worry before that rajafuksa and entire family will get a taste of c4/tnt canter truck solution.
Wunnukum Thangachis Wunnukum
I see that Sakkiliyas are in full force here, good good.
I love hearing all these insults on buddhism and Sri Lanka.
It shows desperation and anger on your parts.
But I dont blame these thangachis, there pissed, of course there ugly they have NO home land ha ha ha.
All they can do is put filth on a internet blog form there Diazzponnaya locations ha ha ha.
Sakkili pundays u r and u know!
Im soooo happy that the SLA nightmare has become a reality!!
No Tamil party asked the President to stop war -PLOTE leader Siddharthan
"We are against stopping war"
Link
TP,
lol...
you missed the show man...
earlier it was like watching 'desperate housewives'...lol
thangatchi, you wanted to be added to canter solution list as well.
you worthless slob, not even a 5 cent bullet is worth taking you out.
thangatchi, came back from performing (one on one) for maha sangha theros ?
Is that true that Nadesun with the family tried to escape by a boat to government control area, then was cought by LTTE anfd he & family has been put in LTTE's jail?
Upul said,
"don't worry before that rajafuksa and entire family will get a taste of c4/tnt canter truck solution."
you mean a truck like this one???
Link
laritha, thats not true..
its more rajafuksa rubbish.
nadesan has no reason to flee. sla has not been able to enter ptk.
they did manage to reach the edge a few times but were beaten back quite a few times. yesterday they made a concertred push using the 53 division with tank and heavy artillery, but they torn up within a few hours and many apparently deserted.....
Breaking News
All Nadesun's article have been removed from the Tamilnet Archive.
I fear this blog has lost the plot!
UPUL
Can you get me a link to Nadesun's article in the TamilNut web site?
Lalith said,
"Breaking News
All Nadesun's article have been removed from the Tamilnet Archive."
this surely must be a work of a chinese hacker...cos last week Nadesun threatened China not to support SL at the security council meeting...and china got embarassed by it..lol
Having returned on a short visit to SL, i'm more than pleased that no one in SL shares the extremist views (tamil and sinhalese diaspora) that is aired in here.
send all nangies to buy MBRLs
ayubowan vesige puthas
"I just finished reading the ‘Westminster Hall Debate’ of March 24, 2009, on the topic ‘Sri Lanka and the Commonwealth’ and realized that one of the key reasons for the decline of the British Empire must have been the play of low IQ, confusion of fact and rhetoric, high degree of naiveté, wild imagination and paucity of analytical rigor. Post-empire pangs were clearly much in evidence. Reading through it all, I am not surprised one bit that today the United Kingdom has been reduced to a client state of the USA. It is quite the poor man of Europe. And if they are so gullible as to believe everything that the mouthpieces of a terrorist outfit tell them, we must be kind and forgive these ladies and gentlemen for entertaining the mistaken belief that the sun never set on their sorry behinds."
click here.
Hi Guys,
It looks like TOILET SUKKILIs got a break. of course it's last Saturday night of the quarter. Poor buggers having a GAY TIME.
Most of the intelligent members of the Sri Lankan Tamil society are no more. They were eliminated by the Tamil Tiger terrorists. Now we are left with dumb monkeys. This fact is well reflected by the most terra sympathizers commenting here.
Dr. Valentine Joseph was one of the decent and intelligent Tamil I have known. It is sad we never hear their voices. Instead the air is filled with "huk huk" sounds from the terra monkeys.
nangige huththa said...
vesige putha
put a buddha statue in Zurich
i will piss on it
This hatred is self made my dear. Try to exit from this cycle and you will feel great. Don't burden yourself with this hatred.
Lalith Kuruwita said...
Breaking News
All Nadesun's article have been removed from the Tamilnet Archive.
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Hey Lalith,
Are you on a Misinformation drive or what?
I found this when I search Tamil Net.
http://www.tamilnet.com/art.html?catid=13&artid=28776
" Thusitha said...
Lalith Kuruwita said...
Breaking News
All Nadesun's article have been removed from the Tamilnet Archive.
------------------
Hey Lalith,
Are you on a Misinformation drive or what?
I found this when I search Tamil Net.
http://www.tamilnet.com/art.html?catid=13&artid=28776
"
One of my friend got a call from Vanni. He also said that he noticed that Nadesun's articles were removed.
We can wai t&
The rate of Peelam aadu's posting has become significantly high..Last time this happened was when our boys were on the verge of taking PTK and Mullaitivu and Kili before that..This means we must be near or partly in the NFZ now..
Machanla, mei sakkili wesige puthala ekkenukatawath uththara denna yanna epa..Paudgalikawa bennath apey jathiyata agamata apahasa kalath hinawela iwasamu..Unge duka thunee wenakan liyala ibema kicha wela yai..Pirunu kale diya nosale...
Puligalin thagam Pullu sappin thyagam
Too many monkeys doing two many somersault. Which is good that they going to break their necks.
Thalathel smell is unbearable. I will come later when they disappear into the tree tops
Bye and Wanakkam Monkeys
Diyasna,
anthima waakyaye theruma mokadda?
Nangige H
I am writing this because I have never seen a human pig like you. I have a great respect for Tamil people purely on my past experience. I have been privileged to associate many Tamil friends while in university playing with them and while working with them during my carrier.
However, after seeing; what you write here with number of handles, you make me think twice about Tamils. How come a Tamil can go to such a low level to write so much filth about a religion? There should be a limit to your insults about monks and religion.
You have come to that limit. From now on think about what you write.
The conflict we have in SL is nothing to do with religion. Be sensible here after.
Romeo,
No point in telling all that to these LTTE terrorists. They simply want to destroy Sinhalese and Buddhism. These insults are just an extension of their brutal massacres of innocent Buddhist pilgrims and monks, and attacks on Buddhist places of worship.
Either you simply ignore these insults or return the pleasentries in kind!
JWick,
Mate, I am following this blog for last 08 months or so. I have never seen another fellow like this.
I didn’t beg or threaten him but it is a firm request to fellow human. It up to him to decide whether he is doing the right or wrong by writing those insults.
However, if he continuous to do the same consequences can be disastrous to him.
JWick,
Whatever, happens, I will never go to that level. It is too low for humans no matter what the reason is.
[Badrinath said...
Apologies to the tank crew in PTK. We will pray for them and their families.]
Great!!! One tank down, just 199 more tanks to go!!
The guy with the religious symbol,
Great work brother!!! I'm sure your posts are hurting the modayas. Keep it up.
Romeo,
In a way pleading with this moron to stop abusing Buddhism may be 1000 times fruitful that pleading with Prabhakaran to stop terrorism!!
But just like Prabhakaran getting his returns in kind, this guy also seems in need of similar response.
Again, just like it is the SL Forces that can do the job, only few guys in the blog can do it. eg Prof SP, Asithri.
We just have to sit back and watch! (with a few comments here and there!)
Being Nobody said...
Kings,
You did not answer me. What needs to be amended ?
-----sorry man... no one was repylying to my post yesterday and I fall slept on the SOFA, just work up!
We cannot offer 13th amendmend...if we have to offer something similar then we have to make 13 amendmends to the 13th amendment....haha
hi modasssssss
am back
hik hik hik
:) :) :)
where is tp?
Peter said...
[President challenges LTTE to free civilians and face the military]
There is a serious danger in this challenge. What if the LTTE say "OK. We are releasing the civilians" and then all the remaining LTTE cadres (wearing suicide jackets) mingle with the civilians and come en masse??
jwick
pack ur things move out of colombo soon
Ha Ha.
New Blog game created by "HinduTamil".
Just move the mouse over his comments and BOOM ( I mean CLICK) and watch VIRTUAL MYTHICAL EELAM HOMELAND SPACE created by him collapse in less than a Nano Second!!!
JWick,
Anthima Wakyaye theruma "Vimukthi Kotinge Pipasya Payyival suppu kireemataya"
jwick,
poda panni thalaya neeyellam oru aaku???
seri piragu parkalaam eppo bore adikuthu
dc,
paavam da nee....
Budhasinhala,
Ada chi! Po Naay poola umbu
Kickma thamai..Parayanta para bhaaswenma uththara denna patan gaththa witharai..Kattiya maru..
Tiger buggers slaugthered with their own Chinese made NDM-86 sniper rifle with a night scope.
video
Sixteen apes sent to great Eelam monkey graveyard by their own weapon.
Cheers!
if Buddha returns to SriLanka
I wonder what will he do.The holy man who gave the world an excellent path for freedom of the self and the reach nirvana,whose principle changed the mind of Great Asoka
... may end in the hand of Gota/ white van.
"budhasinhala said...
seri piragu parkalaam eppo bore adikuthu"
It is not Adikuthu
It is Huthu Kudu
We can expect some good news soon judging by the way peelam monkeys are jumbping up and down here.
Buddha, Budhasinhala, exhiibiting typical racist mind set eelam tamils.
Breaking news, nearly 200 indian soldiers killed in vanni operations since january.
source :www.tamilwin.com
Innocent people of Wanni cursing fat pig Velu as they trek to SLA FDLs.
civilians
These are aunts, uncles, grandparents of monkeys hooting here. Take a good look what your janitorial wages and refugee dole contributions to terrorists have achieved.
Cheers!
Blogger nangige huththa said...
"vesige putha
put a buddha statue in Zurich
i will piss on it"
Racist mind set of Tamil diaspora. No wonder they are the founders of the world's most ruthless terrorist organization
it is perfectly correct to piss on nazi symbols as with thervada budhism symbols.
Nadesan has been arrested. Eventually he will receive the Rasaiah, Pulidevan treatment..
Anyways we have a one less terrorist to deal with..
Now something for the two terrorists in the blog..
Upul and Civilian
Be very careful when you threaten over the internet to send suicide bombers with C4 explosive laden trucks ,and to blow up airplanes 9/11 style. Who knows if anybody is watching you from behind.. :-) :-) he he take care terrorists... at least these days :-)
exterminating war criminal like rajafuksa is not a crime.... its called justice.
thervada budhism and mahavahmsa are hate literature that needs to be extinguished.
sam perera, onceinawhile,sniper asithri, moshe dayan are all tamil haters and must be labeled as such...
Upul if you can show me one post made by me exhibiting racism I will stop posting here
thervada budhism preaches hate of other religions and cultures. it claims sri lanka is for sinhalese only. it preaches sinhalese are master race. all this crap was not said by buddha.
what taliban did to bamiyan budhas was incorrect. what they should have done was something simillar to thervada place of hate worship.
What is happening in Vanni?
From 23.03.2009 All SLA security sentry point handed over Naval troops
in all streets Colombo.
I accept DW NEWS. Thank you
Upul the LTTE racist.
You should let go of the hatred the racism.
Then you will not feel anymore that you are being marginalised from the civilised world.
once inawhile.
have u seen post of thang.pun, ponn,mosh!!! its they who are instigating us...those scum have to replied back in scum.
onceinawhile your rajafuksa, jhu cock sucker, go hunt for fondling sessions at negombo beach ok....
What the f***??
Hope this doesn't happen. What is going on? Are we getting huge international pressure or are we playing a game?
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Rambukwella says Govt. ready to consider ‘humanitarian pause’
By Leon Berenger
(ST)The Government is ready for a 'humanitarian pause' in the conflict zone and to allow the entry of an international task force if it strictly adheres to the modalities laid out by Sri Lanka, Defence spokesperson Keheliya Rambukwella said yesterday
onceinawhile, absolute bull,
thervada budhism and its maha sangha advocate racism and hatred. they preached death on the tamil of eelam.
Blogger Upul said...
"onceinawhile your rajafuksa, jhu cock sucker, go hunt for fondling sessions at negombo beach ok...."
As usual this is the best you LTTE racists can do. When presented with facts.
Blogger Upul said...
" onceinawhile, absolute bull,
thervada budhism and its maha sangha advocate racism and hatred. they preached death on the tamil of eelam."
Prove it. Common
Blogger Upul said...
"onceinawhile, your sinhala thervada budhist scum, this is the best you could do you moda banda...."
Racism, racism, racism no end of it
onceawhile where you thervada terrorist ??
gone crying to ame ????
lol.....
"onceinawhile, what does the mahavamsa say about tamils ?
it claims tamils are invaders.. who don't belong to the island of eelam."
First of all you can quote a statment in the Mahawansa giving this meaning.
Secondly there is nothing wrong with stating a fact as it is.
Upul the LTTE terrorist.
Dont worry. I wont be the one who is doing all the running at the end of this discussion.
oncewhile, thats pure and simple hate...
tamils are the original inhabitants of lanka.. ok.
our people live on the other side 20 km away, and you expect some murderer called vijaya to have sailed 3000 km from bihar before tamils from 20 km away came here ?
what kind of modaya are you ?
what kind of para modaya are you ?
onceinawhile your thervada budhist terrorist, so sinhalese are half lions is fact according to you ?
Upul dont change the topic now. Give a statement from Mahawansa giving this meaning.
"onceinawhile, what does the mahavamsa say about tamils ?
it claims tamils are invaders.. who don't belong to the island of eelam"
ali, man you are back, I thought you got tired bending over for your arab masters.....
What is happening in Vanni?
From 23.03.2009 All SLA security sentry point handed over Naval troops
in all streets Colombo.
I accept DW NEWS. Thank you
if you have the balls ?
Inching ahead slowly but steadily,isnt it.As expected the final showdown is ON and now that the real estate down to a bare minimum,the march ahead too would be slow.
Its not very difficult to read between the lines when Editor.Gopinath is talking about Bihar and collapsing economy.
Down here,election fever is reaching its crescendo and as expected,noise on Srilanka has gone down with other issues are taking centrestage,rightfully so.
onceinawhile your thervada budhist terrorist, so sinhalese are half lions is fact according to you ?
Upul you are running away from the topic. Let me put you back on course.
You said,
"thervada budhism preaches hate of other religions and cultures."
I am asking you to prove it.
Common now prove it.
Drop some 1000kg MK-84'S on smelly country-less Tamil civilians and kill them all in seconds.
Then war is over.
some selected writing of the hate literature buried within mahavamsa:
http://www.tamilnation.org/forum/velupillai/buddha.htm
prove your facts onceinawhile your thervada budhist terrorist
Upul said,
"onceinawhile your thervada budhist terrorist, so sinhalese are half lions is fact according to you ?"
first of all when did I say it is a fact?
Secondly how does the above say that ""thervada budhism preaches hate of other religions and cultures."
Thirdly how does what is written in Mahawansa which is a "historical poem written in the Pali language" amount to a Buddhist preach?
don't try snuggling away from your thervada budhism hate literature stand up and face the music or tuck your tail and run away....
What is this?
"http://www.tamilnation.org/forum/velupillai/buddha.htm"
This is not Mahawansa? This an article written by a Racist like you twisting the truth.
I need facts Upul. Facts. Common. You still didnt substantiate your statement "hervada budhism preaches hate of other religions and cultures." Dont run in circles now. Its quite simple. You show me a original document (an authoritative one on theravadi buddhist teachings ) Proving you statements. Its simple you know.
Now hurry up. You are fast loosing face here
more mahavamsa hate literature:
In 1963, B H Farmer, the British writer, in his book Ceylon: A Divided Nation, (issued under the auspices of the British Institute of Race Relations in 1963,) wrote ".. it is of great consequence that from early times, at least as early as the writing of the Mahavamsa, the Sinhalese have thought of themselves as a unique and specially favoured people.
In August 1957, J R Jayawardne (who was to become Sri Lanka's head of state twenty years later) began his campaign against the then Prime Minister Bandaranaike, who had entered into a pact with the Tamil leader Chelvanayakam to devolve autonomy to the Tamil regions, by declaring:
"The time has come for the whole Sinhala race which has existed for 2,500 years, jealously safeguarding their language and religion, to fight without giving any quarter to save their birthright. I will lead the campaign."
In July 1981, Mrs Wimala Kanangara M.P and Minister for Rural Development declared in parliament "If we are governing we must govern, if we are ruling we must rule. Do not give in to the minorities. We are born Sinhalese and Buddhists in this country. Let us rule"
It is my contention that the phenomena known as "Political Buddhism" is best described by the above quotes. It is also my contention that a major obstacle to a negotiated peace in Sri Lanka is this phenomena variously described as "Political Buddhism", "the Land, Race and Faith Factor" and the "Mahavamsa Mindset". It is essentially an attitude deeply influenced by the way in which the Mahavamsa (an ancient chronicle of Sinhala history believed to have been written in the late 6th century AD by an unknown Buddhist monk) has been interpreted by latter day Sinhala nationalists.
Several modern historians who have sought to understand the Sinhala-Tamil divide have found the "Mahavamsa Mindset" to have been a significant factor in shaping Sinhala nationalism in such a way as to deny all non-Sinhala people (particularly the Tamils) an equal right to the Island. In his book "Buddhism Betrayed"?. Harvard Professor Stanley Tambiah has explored this phenomena in great depth.
The main themes underpinning the ideology born of this attitude has been brilliantly summarised by Kumari Jayawardne, a Sinhalese social scientist , in a 1986 publication by the Colombo based "Centre for Social Analysis". This publication entitled "Ethnic and Class Conflicts in Sri Lanka" is a revised edition of a series of articles published in the Sri Lanka Guardian in the wake of the anti-Tamil pogrom of July 1983. In these articles Kumari Jayawardne has examined the evolution of Sinhala Buddhist political and national consciousness during the colonial and post-colonial period. According to Jayawardne the themes are:
(a) The doctrine of primacy and superiority of the Sinhala "race" the members of which are claimed to be the original, true inhabitants of the Island. This is based on the myth that the Sinhalese are the descendants of Aryan migrants from Bengal.
(b) The belief that the Sinhala race has been placed in a special relationship to Buddhism as its protector.
Two powerful myths told by the chronicler of the Mahavamsa form the cornerstone of this ideology. These myths have been eagerly and relentlessly exploited, reinterpreted, and re-told by latter day Sinhala nationalists to advocate an ideology reflecting the themes identified above and implying that only the Sinhala Buddhist inhabitants are the true "sons of the soil" (Bhumi Putra) and that the others are interlopers and aliens.
The first tale is about the founding of the Sinhala race and begins by giving the Sinhala people a myth about their origins which, far fetched as it is, has been interpreted to show that the Sinhalese are a people with something special about them. The second is another myth and deals with the question of Sinhala hegemony in respect to the Island.
The first myth tells of a sexual union between an indian princess, (daughter of the king of vanga) and a lion resulting in the birth of twins- a son called sinhabahu (lion-arm) and a daughter called sihasivali. the animal-cum-human family live in a cave which the lion blocks with an enormous boulder imprisoning his wife and children while he goes hunting. one day the son removes the boulder and carries his mother and sister to the borderland of the vanga country. In searching for his lost family, the lion ravages several villages. this is seen by the human population as an animal attack on human settlements. The king of Vanga announces a reward to anyone who rids the land of the rampaging lion. In response, and against the pleading of his mother, Sinhabahu agrees to kill his father on behalf of his grandfather. The lion, full of love for his son, moves unsuspectingly to his death. Sinhabahu cuts off the lion's head and offers it to his grandfather. In return he is offered the kingdom of Vanga. He refuses the offer and returns to the land of his lion father and after carnal union with his twin sister builds a city (Sihapura) and rules it well. Vijaya, is the elder of twins born out of this incestuous union. Vijaya is of a violent temperament. When he and seven hundred of his followers begin to harass the people, the enraged public demand that Vijaya be put to death. Instead, the king (Sinhabahu) exiles his son along with his followers.
The exiled prince and his retinue arrive in Sri Lanka as the Buddha lay dying in mainland India. However, the Buddha's thoughts are with Vijaya and his followers and he assigns gods to protect them . The protection serves them well in their encounters with the local (aboriginal) population -the yakkas. Vijaya espouses a female member of the local population called Kuveni and with her help massacres the other yakkas. Vijaya and his retinue then acquire wives from the neighbouring Indian kingdom of Madura- the chronicle defines the descendants of Vijaya and his followers as Sinhala as they are the direct descendants of the slayer of the lion (sinha means lion).
The other powerful story related by the chronicler of the Mahavamsa is that of the confrontation between the Sinhalese king Duttugemunu and the Tamil king Elara (Ellalan).
Gemunu is introduced in the Mahavamsa as the son of King Kakavana Tissa and Queen Viharamahadevi. At the age of twelve when requested by his father not to fight the Tamils (who are portrayed by the Mahavamsa to be people of a kingdom somewhere north of Kakavanna Tissa's domain), Gemunu reacts by curling up on his bed and telling his mother, the Queen Viharamahadevi, that the reason he is unable to stretch his limbs is that "over there beyond the river are the Tamils; here on this side is the sea; how can I lie with outstretched limbs?". On another occasion, Gemunu, angered by what he considered his father's cowardice sends him a female ornament. The father threatens to bind his angry (duttu) son with a golden chain. Duttugemunu (the angry gemunu) thereupon flees. On his father's death Duttugemunu has himself crowned as King and declares war on the Tamil King Elara. The Mahavamsa tells of the killing of thirty two lesser Tamil kings by Duttugemunu in his march to confront Elara. In the final battle Duttugemunu triumphs by killing Elara and Sri lanka is united under one royal umbrella. Gemunu's remorse at the killing of so many in his march to victory is dismissed by eight arrahants (enlightened saints) who tell him that he had only slain one and a half human beings-- one who had embraced Buddhism and another who had accepted the five basic precepts of Buddhism. The rest being "unbelievers" were not worthy to be even considered as human beings.
Both myths have been reactivated and recontextualised by latter day Sinhala nationalists to give shape and inspiration to suit the ideology in a 20th century context.
The myth of Vijaya is interpreted by latter day Sinhalese to "prove" the antiquity of the Sinhala people vis-a vis the Tamils and more importantly to assert a divine purpose as evidenced by the protection bestowed by the dying Buddha on the first Sinhalese-Vijaya and his retinue.
The special relationship between Buddhism and the founding fathers is also asserted by claiming that the Buddha attained Nibbana on the very day that Vijaya and his retinue arrived in the Island.
Similarly, the legend of Duttugemunu is retold in several formats to assert the basic tenet of Sinhala nationalism which is that the entire Island (including those regions where the Tamils form the dominant population) belongs to the Sinhalese and that the Island needs to be "unified" under Sinhala rule.
It is in keeping with this tradition that Sinhala historian K.M de Silva , refers to King Duttugemunu as someone engaged in "a ] relentless quest for domination of the whole Island" and that he accomplished what he set out to do, by establishing "control of the whole Island".
The non-human status of the non Buddhists as related in the Duttugemunu tale is also interpreted to suggest the special status of the Sinhala people.
While legends and myths of the Mahavamsa formed the basis of Sinhala nationalism, the present nationalism is also due to the considerable influence wielded by European thought in the 19th and 20th centuries. This dealt with racial concepts such as "Aryan".
The notion that the Sinhalese were an Aryan people was not a Mahavamsa inspired myth, but, an opinion attributable to European linguists who classified the languages spoken by the Sinhala and Tamil people into two distinct categories.
Robert Caldwell, in his "A Comparative Grammar of the Dravidian South Indian Family of Languages (1856) " argued that there was no direct affinity between the Sinhalese and Tamil languages, while the German, Max Muller in his "Lectures on the Science of Language (1861)" declared that "careful and minute comparison" had led him to "class the idioms spoken in Iceland and Ceylon as cognate dialects of the Aryan family of languages". Contrary views were, however, expressed by others who classed Sinhalese with South Indian languages.
Christian Lassen and James Emmesrson Tennent were two who held that the Sinhala language was closely affiliated to South Indian (non Aryan ) languages. However, it was the "Aryan Theory' which was to hold sway as several European scholars lent support to this view. The linguistic classification began to acquire a racial dimension when local and foreign historians began to superimpose a distinct racial origin to the Sinhala people. L.E Blaze in the 1931 edition of his "A history of Ceylon for Schools" mentions that the mythical founder of the Sinhalese , (Vijaya) was ]"believed to be of the Aryan race". H.W Codrington in his "History of Ceylon (1926)" accepts the Aryan origin of the Sinhalese, but qualifies it by saying that "their original Aryan blood had been very much diluted through intermarriage..".
The notion that Vijaya was anxious to find "a queen of his own Aryan race" and the view that "his pride of race revolted at the thought of any but a pure Aryan succeeding to the Government which he had striven so laboriously to found" were quotes which popular Sinhala historians were to use in their interpretation of history.
These racist theories were based on spurious interpretations by European physical anthropologists who expounded the view that the Sinhalese were in fact a distinct race. These included M.M Kunte who declared that 'There are, properly speaking, representatives of only two races in Ceylon-the Aryans and the Tamilians, the former being descendants of Indian and Western Aryans", adding that he had discovered that the "formation of the forehead, the cheek bones, the chin, the mouth and lips of Tamilians is distinctly different from the Ceylonese Aryans." Virchow, another anthropologist expressed the view that the "Sinhalese were either Aryans or a mixed race, derived from the fusion of Aryan and the aboriginal inhabitants of the Island"
The influence of the Germans in promoting these racist notions was particularly significant. According to Professor Wilson of the University of Brunswick, Canada,
"It is likely that German scholars had a more compelling case in looking for the "cradle" of the Indo-European (which really meant the Aryan) race. The greatest of all students of Sinhalese culture was Wilhelm Greiger, whose German edition and translation of the Mahavamsa was completed in 1908. An English translation was completed in 1912. When he arrived in Ceylon in December 1895, Wilhem Geiger, in an interview with The Ceylon Independent stated that the purpose of his visit was to study Sinhala for scientific purposes in order to see if it came under the Aryan category."
One of the most effective and articulate exponent of this explosive Mahavamsa-inspired ideology was a man called Anagarika Dharmapala who was active during the early part of the 20th century. Dharmapala was a product of the newly emergent Sinhala petty bourgeoisie of small traders, white-collar workers, vernacular teachers , indigenous (Ayurvedic) physicians and moneylenders, who resented the economic, political and social advantages enjoyed by the westernised elite of the Island. Amongst the westernised elite were a large number of Christians who clearly appeared to enjoy the patronage of the colonial administrators.
Dharmapala, armed with the Mahavamsa-inspired ideology, began by first attacking the Christians whom he regarded as being the cause of a multitude of evils. He was vociferous in his attacks which were conducted through newspapers which he edited and through lectures he gave at gatherings of supporters. In 1902, Dharmapala wrote,] "This bright and beautiful Island was made into a paradise by Aryan Sinhalese before its destruction was brought about by the barbaric vandals. Christianity and polytheism are responsible for the vulgar practices of killing animals, stealing, prostitution licentiousness, lying and drunkenness.."
He also pointed to the past glories of the Sinhalese civilisation as portrayed by the Mahavamsa as a way of infusing the Sinhalese with a nationalist identity and self-respect in the face of the humiliation imposed by the British rule and Christian missionary activities. But, of course, in this attempt, he adopted a racist line which denigrated the non-Sinhala inhabitants and set in motion a vicious pattern which other Sinhala leaders were to follow.
The myth of Duttagemunu was used by Dharmapala to celebrate the". Sinhala Aryans of yore uncontaminated by Semitic and savage ideas". In 1915 he directed his attack against the Muslims by calling them "an alien people (who) by Shylockian methods have become prosperous like the Jews" .
By the 1930s the working classes too had became involved in propagating the racist notions advocated by Dharmapala and sections of the Buddhist clergy. These attacks were primarily directed at the "Malayalis" - a group of lately arrived migrants from Kerala (Malyalam) in India.
This upsurge in racism in Sri Lanka in the thirties coincided with the rise of fascism in Germany and Italy, and several local newspapers gave sympathetic accounts of the international and foreign policies of Hitler and Mussolini. Many nationalist and labour leaders found the language and rhetoric emanating from Germany and Italy, useful in their own propaganda. Viraya, the Sinhala paper of the Island's leading trade union, the Ceylon Labour Union was at the forefront of the attack lamenting the fate of the Sinhala people and calling for "a leader like Hitler who was implementing policies for saving the Aryan race from degeneration (Viraya, 17 April 1936).
This theme was developed in a letter (signed B Sirisena) which said (inter alia) "It was Hitler, the leader of Germany who said that leadership cannot be expected from those who are devoid of Aryan blood.In his country he has therefore prohibited marriage between Aryans and non-Aryans. He has even declared illegal the employment of young Aryan girls as domestics in the houses of non-aryans.... The intention of all these is the creation of a pure Aryan race. 'The letter, continuing, suggested that taking inspiration from fascist Germany, the Sinhalese should bestir themselves and prohibit marriages between "Aryan" Sinhalese and Malayalis.
The Mahavamsa was used with great effect. by trade unionists, the Buddhist clergy and Buddhist laymen like Dharmapala to attack non-Sinhalese by casting them as aliens and interlopers and in that process infusing the Sinhala people with the notion that to be a Sinhalese Buddhist somehow entitled them to greater claims on the Island in relation to the others.
Not surprisingly, the population so infused was easily incited to make violent attacks on non-Sinhalese when the latter (particularly the Tamils) were found to make claims to equal rights or asserted their right to a federal state or their right to secede. According to Ceylonese historian, Ludowyke "a special quality of hostility" could be elicited among the Sinhalese at times of conflict and stress because of what they knew about their history as told by the Mahavamsa and interpreted by laymen and Buddhist monks.
Bruce Kapferer in the book "Legends of People, Myths of State" refers to the responsibility of the Mahavamsa-inspired myths for the violence against Tamils. "Most Sinhalese did not participate in the killings of July 1983. Nonetheless, many watched, without acting, while Tamils burned. Compassionate Sinhalese sheltered Tamils in their homes. But, I have heard the very same people state that "they ( the Tamils) got what they deserved".
The power of these myths is to be also found in the names of the army regiments which since 1956 have carried names such as the "Gemunu Watch", " Sinha Regiment" and the "Rajarata Rifles", names filled with mythical significance attributable to the Mahavamsa.. Then of course, there are the statements and actions by Sinhala politicians which point to the extent to which the Sinhala psyche has been influenced by the notions made possible and popular by the way in which the Mahavamsa has been interpreted.
For instance in 1985,J. R Jayawardne, the then President of the Island called himself the 306th head of state in an "unbroken line from Vijaya". In 1986, Prime Minister Premadasa having published a short novel in Sinhala and English presenting the heroic progress of Duttagemunu, was to claim a role for himself similar to the mythical hero in unifying the Island under the Sinhala UNP Government.
The role of the populist historians and educationalists in perpetrating these myths as historical facts is very significant. The Vijaya and Duttagemunu stories as told in the ancient chronicles are reproduced in school texts and presented as fundamental to Sinhalese identity and to Sinhalese political rights.
Recognising the stranglehold of the Mahavamsa Mindset, many scholars in recent times have sought to unravel and explode the myths in a way that would help understand the historical realities.
R.L H Gunawardne, a leading Sinhala intellectual engaged in this task argues that the Sinhala consciousness is a recent phenomena which had emerged well after the period of Duttagemunu. Others have shown the Elara-Duttagemunu confrontation to be a dynastic battle having little to do with the Sinhala or Tamil identities of the adversaries.
There are others who have shown that a significant proportion of the present day Sinhalese are in fact descendants of Tamil immigrants from South India who by adopting Buddhism and the Sinhalese language have now become Sinhalese, and hence the irrelevance of the "Aryan Race" theory. Then there are others who have taken the "rationalistic stand by pointing out the "impossibility" of human descent from a lion and dismissing the Vijaya myth as a "pure flight of fancy'. Notwithstanding these attempts, the Mahavamsa Mindset has prevailed.
The explosive power of the "Mahavamsa Mindset", however, was not immediately grasped by the Sinhalese elite who assumed political power on the departure of the British (the last of the colonial rulers) ending a 450-year old occupation of the Island by various European powers. The first to realise the enormous political gain to be made through tapping the explosive Mahavamsa Mindset was, S.W.R.D Bandaranaike, who ironically, was a member of the elitist Christian Bandaranaike-Obeyasekera clan.
At the General election of 1956, Bandaranaike bulldozed his way into political power by successfully marshalling popular Sinhala support on a chauvinistic platform. This, however, does not mean that other Sinhala elitist politicians until then were unaware of the power of the "Aryan myth" and the emerging Sinhala consciousness which by the 1930s had become a formidable social force.
It only meant that they had not begun to employ it with the kind of formidable effect that Bandaranaike was able to do in 1956. There is an earlier example of this appeal to chauvinism by a member of the Sinhalese political elite, namely D.S Senanayake, who became the Island's first Prime Minister in 1948.
Nine years earlier, in 1939, addressing a gathering of Sinhalese in his capacity as Minister of Agriculture (in the Pre-independence Government), D.S Senanayake said in tones reminiscent of Hitler's "thousand year reich" ] "We are one blood and one nation. We are a chosen people. The Buddha said that his religion would last 5,500 years. That means we, as custodians of that religion shall last as long"
Today, the Buddhist clerical establishment, the chief proponents of the Mahavamasa-inspired chauvinism continues to be the chief obstacle to a negotiated peace. The recent military set backs suffered by the Tamils have only made these chauvinists even more intransigent. In a letter dated 10 January 1996, 18 Sinhala Buddhist organisations have urged the Sri Lankan President to pave the way for the families of landless Sri Lankan Army and Police personnel to be settled in the captured Tamil areas.
The call was made in the wake of an article in the Sunday Island of 31 December 1995. In this, Professor Abaya Ariyasinghe an academic exponent of "political Buddhism" announced that the historic Nallur Kandaswamy temple was really a monument built over a Buddhist place of worship. He then claimed (quite preposterously) that the name Nallur itself was a corruption of the Pali word Unanaluma. (Pali is the language from which the Sinhala tongue is believed to have originated and in which the Mahavamsa was written) According to the learned Professor "The very name Nallur echoes the term Unaloma. The meaning of "good village" attributed to Nallur bears no justification. The Pali word Unaloma means the hair grown on the forehead of the Buddha"
Conclusion:
"Political Buddhism" is an impediment to peace in the Island of Sri Lanka because it is based on the doctrine of primacy and superiority of the Sinhala "race" and the Buddhist religion. The Sinhala political establishment has promoted and exploited this spurious doctrine to justify and perpetuate the unitary constitution under which political power is vested with the Sinhala nation. Hence, it is this doctrine which stands in the way of a negotiated settlement reflecting the reality that Sri Lanka is an Island of two nations.
You know Upul you shouldnt just believe things just because your family said so. I dont know your age but its about time you learn to think independently.
I need facts Upul. Facts. Common. You still didnt substantiate your statement "hervada budhism preaches hate of other religions and cultures." Dont run in circles now. Its quite simple. You show me a original document (an authoritative one on theravadi buddhist teachings ) Proving you statements. Its simple you know.
Now hurry up. You are fast loosing face here
onceinawhile,
"This is not Mahawansa? This an article written by a Racist like you twisting the truth."
you have completely exposed your
sinhala racism/hatred here.....
you want me to get me to quote one of your maha sangha thero fondlers to say "mahavamsa is hate literature" ?
so your justification is that since it on tamilnation - its automatically called racist by vermin like you ?
onceinawhile, oh and you are thinking independently getting paid by your rajafuksa paymasters ?
"more mahavamsa hate literature:
In 1963, B H Farmer, the British writer, in his book Ceylon: A Divided Nation, (issued under the auspices of the British Institute of Race Relations in 1963,) wrote ".. it is of great consequence that from early times, at least as early as the writing of the Mahavamsa, the Sinhalese have thought of themselves as a unique and specially favoured people"
Upul, the above is not Mahawansa????
Do you understand engish?
Upul said,
"onceinawhile, oh and you are thinking independently getting paid by your rajafuksa paymasters ?"
Common now. stick to the topic.
what do you understand onceinawhile ?
broken english ?
these are references and quotes testfying the hate propagated by mahavamsa toilet paper....
onceawhile you stick to topic ?
prove to me your sinhala people are half lions.....
onceinawhile, I dont have to stick to you or your f**** rules....
Hmm Upul is kind of dissapointing.
onceinawhile atleast disprove to me this statement is wrong:
In 1963, B H Farmer, the British writer, in his book Ceylon: A Divided Nation, (issued under the auspices of the British Institute of Race Relations in 1963,) wrote ".. it is of great consequence that from early times, at least as early as the writing of the Mahavamsa, the Sinhalese have thought of themselves as a unique and specially favoured people"
show me one piece of literature that claims B H Farmer was a liar....
go on, show me.... now.....
What ever B.H. Farmer has written it doesnt say "thervada budhism preaches hate of other religions and cultures"
Why cant you stick to the topic? Is it that hard Upul?
onceinawhile don't chicken out of this one
you show me that b h farmer is a liar.
what I showed is an original document with references... you disprove that to everyone here.
don't try to say its by racists so, I can ignore it etc...
onceinawhile, show me bh farmer is a liar, say if you can or if you cannot. prove it now....
if you cannot, then my point is won simple as that....
Mahavansa-phobic U-fool,
Racist or not the Mahavansa and Thereavda script can be corrborated through arcaheological findings..Your bigoted Sangam fantasy is not..That is why the Mahvansa is studied as a historical text in international universities whilst your mythical hallucintaions are discussed as literature/ fiction..
You complain of genocide of Tamils one moment then condone genocide of Sinhalese and Muslims in the next..You think this is genocide..you aint seen nothing bitch..Once the ground war is won the white vans will come to the North and your mahaveers will dissapear..The next population census will show Muslims as the second major ethnic group in SL..Our DFI and Indian RAW has plan for u cinna-veers in Canada, UK and Switzerland too..Await the revenge of the chena boys..Theres a bullet in my gun and It's got your name on it
onceinawhile, why do you duck questions ?, why can't you show heroism in defending your beloved mahavamsa to your fellow state terrorists here...
Upul
"n 1963, B H Farmer, the British writer, in his book Ceylon: A Divided Nation, (issued under the auspices of the British Institute of Race Relations in 1963,) wrote ".. it is of great consequence that from early times, at least as early as the writing of the Mahavamsa, the Sinhalese have thought of themselves as a unique and specially favoured people"
The above is an OPINION of the writer. Not a FACT. Understand the difference between opinion and fact?
I never said B.H. Farmer is a liar did I??
onceinawhile, show me bh farmer is lying about the mahavamsa ?
dont you understand english ?
or are using some online sinhala translator ?
UPUL it is his Opinon. Fact please.
As far as we are concerned opinions are facts!!!
where did it is say its bh farmer's opinion ?
Reminder.
Upul the racist said
"thervada budhism preaches hate of other religions and cultures"
Prove using FACT please
ah fake peter has arrived to help his fellow patriot tamil hater....
onceinawhile you haven't finished answering my question, where does it say that was bh famer's opinion and not fact ?
prove that to me..... if you can....
Blogger Peter said...
"As far as we are concerned opinions are facts!!!"
Peter no need to come to Upuls rescue. He is old enough to handle thngs himself.
this book shows why theravda budhism preaches hatred:
http://www.amazon.com/Buddhism-Betrayed-Monograph-Institute-Development/dp/0226789500/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top/180-7702946-0269510
Upul said,
"onceinawhile you haven't finished answering my question, where does it say that was bh famer's opinion and not fact ?"
HA HA HA
what level of intelligence.. Do you need somebody to tell you what is fact and what is opinion. Cant you understand for yourself
onceinawhile, very smart start a fake peter account to attempt to fake rescue me when I don't need rescuing when you do,
very funny.....
SLA built earth bund cum ditch North of Palamathalan seized
LTTE commandos have breached SLA defences and gained control over an SLA built earth bund cum ditch constructed North of Palamathalan, Saturday (March 28).
Unable to face the LTTE onslaught SLA have fled putting-up less resistance and have started attacking the civilians continuously mounting heavy artillery and mortar attacks into the government declared No Fire Zone.
Upul you are becoming quite boring you know?
what an answer?
"can't you understand yourself ?"
well obviously you cant' ?
you probably believe you have lion dna ???
Tik Tok, Tik Tok, the clock is ticking, these moron eelamists are eating the shit thats been thrown out by VP from the safe zone, oh...and by the way Peter, I dont think your brotherinlaw has the brains to be the technology cheif, he must have been the one giving ass to the man who got captured. and Im sorry for all the diassporats who are pulling there hairs out for the failed investments, too bad youl cant run an audit to see where VP sent his money! also the question on the dipleeting LTTE stocks, Id say we cannot take a shot, we need LRRP assaults inside the SafeZone, this too has to have a safety evacuation plan for all civilians.Palamattalan Earth bund is completely taken over, there were 17 casualties, the earth bunds at Iranapalai have been breached from the west aswell as North west, putting us ever so closer. The time will come where LTTE will pop out from the safe zone with guns pointed at civilian heads forcing SLA to pull back or they will shoot the civilians, this will I hope finally show the love the LTTE has towards the tamil race, and hopefully show the rest of the diasspora what they have been funding, a war to annihilate there very own race
onceinawhile, I have referred you to book that gives ample evidence as why thervada budhism promotes hate:
http://www.amazon.com/Buddhism-Betrayed-Monograph-Institute-Development/dp/0226789500/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top/180-7702946-0269510
Luckily I have whole day today. You need atleast a day when trying to knock some sense in to this kind of people
ORIGINAL buddhist preachings please
Stretch of SLA supply route seized: Mullaittivu
LTTE defesive formations after going into offensive mode have seized control over an SLA supply route stretching towards Iranapalai following hours of fierce fighting yesterday(March 28).
The dominance by LTTE forces over this vital stretch of the remaining SLA supply route is expected to frustrate movement and logistic supply of SLA, tamil ealam sources said.
onceinawhile disprove that the book I referred is a complete lie ?
can you or can you not ?
simple binary question....
ORIGINAL buddhist preachings please
I have given atleast three pieces of literature that justifies my point that thervada budhism promotes hatred and bigotry.
while agree true religion don't promote hatred. thervada budhism is not a true religion, its hate a cult.......
Upul how can the gospel truth be disproved?
onceinawhile, you have hardly shown your theravada budhism promotes peace or tranquilty and doesn't promote racism or hatred in any of your arguments or have you ?
I am deeply disspapointed by this onceinawhile, he can't even seem to make a point.... he keeps asking questions yet he can't show one piece of evidence supporting his opinions however deluded it maybe.
this is probably the best modaya mahinda chinthana can offer....
Upul said,
"Onceinawhile, you have hardly shown your theravada budhism promotes peace or tranquilty and doesn't promote racism or hatred in any of your arguments or have you ?"
Readers are not fools you know?
You dumb cunts,you don't even have the man power to muster an offensive, let alone capture a supply root, let alone hold it, also please note that in the SLA map, the second tier tanks are behind, youd be smashed like bugs if you tried to hold it.Look man what are you gonna do, take sticks and rocks and throw at the army when all your weapon manufacturing plants are gone, the destruction of the only ship worthy weapon carrying ships, the depletion and capture of your weapons hidden in army controlled areas, youls grave stones are carved and ready its just to seal it on top of your graves, thats all thats left to do, I was wrong about Sri Lanka not needing a Mossad, we do need a Mossad type arm in intelligence, to attack the diasspora in there own homes.
onceinawhile, again your duck my question ?
why slimy fellow you are ???
"Onceinawhile, you have hardly shown your theravada budhism promotes peace or tranquilty and doesn't promote racism or hatred in any of your arguments or have you ?"
>>Readers are not fools you know?
Thats a not complete answer...
answer me without bull shitting..... like your politicians....
oncewhile, I will annoy till you can try to :
show you theravada budhism promotes peace or tranquilty and doesn't promote racism or hatred at all..
Common Upul. Waiting for that facts. You know the Facts that are supposed to prove "Buddism preaches hatred and violence towards other religions and cultures"
Sorry, I made a mistake earlier
I said:
"Stretch of SLA supply route seized"
It really should be:
"Stretch of my thalathel Thamiz amma's arse"
Apologies to all modayas here.
onceinawhile you have been fair and square, unable to muster an answer you hiding behind echoing back questions and trying to be a corrupt politico lawyer. now stop banging around the bushes and answer the questions unless if you can't ?
be honest!
Upul said
"oncewhile, I will annoy till you can try to :"
oh no. How annoying Upul is. Oh god
onceinawhile, I pointed to a book that points out thervada budhism promotes hate....
now you have done nothing to answer or disprove the fact that thervada budhism promotes hatred and bigotry.
another fake peter account.
with moda banda loosing badly, they need to create fake account to save their skirts....
Upul incase you have forgotton this is how this dialog began.
You said,
"Buddism preaches hatred and violence towards other religions and cultures"
.
And I am still waiting for you to prove it using facts.Remember?
onceinawhile stop beating around the bushes and prove to me thervada budhism promote peace and tranquilty and no hatred at all...
Upul, No wonder bloggers here call you "U-FOOL"
If you wannna comment about theravada buddhism, try reading some theravada Buddhist texts. For starters i recommend you a wonderful book written by Ayya Khema "BEING NOBODY, GOING NOWHERE". The author describes the base of Buddhism -compassion and loving kindness. Might be a good answer to your troubled 'soul' too.
But given your standard of intellect, comprehension of such materiel is beyond your reach. I understand your dilemma man. So there is no other alternative than to stick to punnaku thrown at you by your fellow peelam promoters. Go enjoy your punnakku.
Upul which part of this two words you dont understand
1. ORIGINAL
2. FACTS
being nobody, thats not theravada budhism ok.
onceinawhile, you vermin now you try to misquote me, I never said budhism as a whole promotes hatred,
I said theravada budhism promotes hatred and bigotry....
While talking about freedom of expression, see what the LTTE jackals are doing to this blog!
Onceinawhile,
Bro, U-fool is not just an average fool. He's foolishness is beyond anybody's imagination.
HAHAHHA....
Modaya kata naththam pandithayek!
listen you fake,
peter id is
09008397586569019159
and don't think you can fool me you sinhala modaya....
Upul incase you have forgotton this is how this dialog began.
You said,
"Buddism preaches hatred and violence towards other religions and cultures"
.
And I am still waiting for you to prove it using facts.Remember?
onceinawhile, you vermin, you are sounding more like that sma portuguese prostitute perera.
i never said budhism promotes hatred.
I said theravada budhism promotes hatred and bigotry..... and deserved to be pissed on....
Upul
brother why do our puligal thangatchhis smell so bad man?
We diaspora must send more surgical spirits to wash their rotten cunts. We can take this offline okay brother.
Sorry moda bandas.....this is a personal discussion between we puligals okay.
fake peter, go get fondled by your maha sangha theros... thats your speciality isn't it selling your boyhood services to gays on negombo beach ?
I loved those days when both DN and DW regulated their blogs by deleting inapt comments.
Upul
"I said theravada budhism promotes hatred and bigotry..... and deserved to be pissed on...."
Very well said brother. Showed these moda chena boys what we are made of eh?
Speaking of piss, how I wish I didn't piss in your amma's mouth the other day....sorry brother, I got carried away.
UPUL,
SAID...being nobody, thats not theravada budhism ok.
OH MAN, READ THE BOOK BEFORE U OPEN YOU SMELLY MOUTH.
Blogger Upul said...
"onceinawhile, you vermin, you are sounding more like that sma portuguese prostitute perera.
i never said budhism promotes hatred.
I said theravada budhism promotes hatred and bigotry..... and deserved to be pissed on...."
Ok. Do prove using facts
single cell moda banda patriots can't seem to win any arguments......
hik hik hik
Upul
Did your amma say she drank my piss?
oooops sorry brother. Will not happen again.
onceinawhile your vermin, prove to me your theravada budhism promotes peace. if you cannot answer this question, you have simply lost and don't bother raising your voice here again....
It is funny to see some one is discussing about buddhism in a war blog by the people who support killings.
"The author describes the base of Buddhism -compassion and loving kindness."
yes authors buddha preach it and followed it.In Srilanka, most dont follow it.
Look one man name it him self as "NO BODY" try to prove himself as "some body attach to something"
You dont understand Being Nobody
The fact is very simple:
the people here by trying to argue for buddha as equal to those arguing against it.Both are arguing to satisfy your EGO.
Please leave the Buddhism
Being Nobody,Once ina while= upul
Common now Upul. I am still waiting.
Upul
seriously brother, what are we going to do soon? I mean these moda chena bandas are now entering the NFZ!
Reminds me when you said your mother's arse was a NFZ once, but when she gladly offered it to me, since then it has become a FFZ (free fire zone).
Call me to discuss what we are going to do okay.....
onceinawhile 5 second to answer my question.
5
4
2
1
Onceinawhile
To upul
"I am still waiting"
Moda banda....this is the slogan we tamiz eezam adopted 30 years ago when our thalaivar promised, and only now you thought of it! ha ha ha
How typical of modayas!
Upul said.
"I said theravada budhism promotes hatred and bigotry..... and deserved to be pissed on...."
Prove using fact please,
A quote made from an authoritative Buddhist document will do.
0 - times up... your officially another moda rajafuska follower whose iq is less than that of a dog.
onceinawhile, you pathetic vermin, learn the art of dodging questions a little better and go and stay in school ok, and learn to stay away from hoodlums like fake peter and stay away maha sangha thero fondlers.....
Upul
brother I heard things are not good.
news I got said our thangaatchis are opening up to those moda bandas.....I say really opening up I hear.....and I am told many puligal thangaatchis love arse fuck from these moda banda...brother we must do something soon....any ideas?
i wonder where the great sakkiliya sungod is hiding? inside a toilet pit in PTK. ha ha ha!
Upul
brother, sorry I pissed in your mother's mouth okay.....I said sorry but you didn't say "it's okay" so I am hurt brother....see, we tamiz must stick together these days....we tamiz must act in unity like Karuna, Pillaiyan, Hon, Thalaivar, etc. eh?
Ada Velupillai
"great sakkiliya sungod"
Stop insulting our dog, sorry I mean god okay....we are deeply indebted to him for his great wisdom that has brought us our tamizeezam....what more can we ask?
LTTE malathi sluts deseting by their thousands in search of SLA cocks.
soon they will join the lechami's of underneath tea bush porn fame.
tea industry going to have severe competion. ha ha ha!
Upul said...
0 - times up... your officially another moda rajafuska follower whose iq is less than that of a dog.
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Upul what an achievement. You managed to count down to five. Give your self a pat and go back to manning our post. Make sure you shoot Civilians who are fleeing NFZ.
Congratulations to the Sri Lankan army for net-arresting Nadesan today. Perhaps they should have net-killed him instead, as we wouldn't want him to net-escape.
Upul
To onceinawhile
"learn the art of dodging questions"
ha ha ha good one brother.
ya, these moda bandas did not see how our later Anton Paraballa-singham avoided the question whether we puligals killed that Rajiv dude and how cleverly he avoided that question by only saying "it was a monumental blunder"......and how India lifted the ban on us puligals after that interview eh?
moda bandas....they know nothing of answering questions!
What is happening in Vanni?
From 23.03.2009 All SLA security sentry points handed over Naval troops all streets in Colombo.
I accept DW NEWS. Thank you for update
Upui you still there? Or did you seriously go to find some facts for a change/
theravada budhism does not applied to sakkily pest control situtations. ha ha ha!
onceinawhile said...
Upui you still there? Or did you seriously go to find some facts for a change/
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Upul is having a chat with his mother after the things Peter had done to her. Please give Upul some time out as he had to go an see a shrink.
Lol
Upul just achieved eelam in his pants after violently arguing (mostly in circles) his baseless statements..Fear not fellow bloggers. The resident Peezham retard of defencewire will return, once his cinna kunju has recovered, to claim victory in stupid arguments and achieve eelam in his pants
[TamilNet, Sunday, 29 March 2009, 04:47 GMT]
Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam (LTTE) launched attacks on Special Task Force (STF) commandos at three separate locations Friday and Saturday in Batticaloa district killing a commando and seriously injuring three in the first attack while killing two commandos and seriously injuring one in the second attack. The third attack was on the STF sentry post in Karadiyanaa’ru police division in which three STF commandos were killed and four seriously wounded, Batticaloa district LTTE said. Meanwhile, two Sri Lanka Army (SLA) home guards lost their legs caught in a booby trap set by the Tigers Saturday around 6:30 a.m in the 16th village in Ampaa’rai district, LTTE in Ampaa’rai said.
Liberation Tigers launched the Friday attack around 10:45 p.m on the STF commandos posted at the road check point located between U’rukaamam and Kiththu’l on Batticaloa-Badulla road in which an STF commando was killed and three seriously injured.
The second attack took place Saturday around 12:30 p.m on the STF mini camp at 78th mile post on Chengkaladi-Badulla road where a time bomb planted by the Tigers exploded killing two STF commandos and seriously wounding one.
DW,
Why do the ground forces have to worry about LTTE incursions from the sea side as well? Why cannot the Navy watch their flank?
hi vellupillai
Heavy fighting between Tamil Eelam Army and SLA in Vanni kills large number of Sri Lankan Army soliders
Ferociously heavy battles ensued between the Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam (LTTE) and the Sri Lankan Security Forces (SF) in many areas in Vanni. The LTTE forces opened up heavy barrages of shelling towards Chalai coastal area and advanced few km into Chalai and Thevipuram area while the LTTE forces were infiltrated into the Peparai SF controlled area.
Ensued fighting between SF and the LTTE, over 800 SF troopers were killed. In another incident, a tractor load of injured army personals were trapped and killed in Katchilaimadu area. Number of Battle Tanks and armored personal carriers also were damaged or destroyed by the LTTE in ensued ferocious fighting, according to the sources in Chalai area.
In another front, the LTTE forces infiltrated into AmpalavanPokkanai & Thevipuram area and in the ensued heavy fighting, over 100 SF troopers were killed.
Meanwhile, Sri Lanka’s official Television broadcasting corporation, Rubavakini said, that LTTE cadres were operating North of Chundikulam (Vanankulam) area.
Yesterday, the sources in Vanni said, LTTE counter attacked the forces in the Forward Defence Line (FDL) area and killed at least 450 SF troopers and injured over 1272 SF troopers in the Southern frontier of the Manthuvil, Kulanthai Jesus and Pandiyanveddai.
Large amount of military weapons and dead bodies of the SF troopers were captured by the LTTE in the attack, according to the command center of LTTE.
Fierce Fighting still continuing at many parts of the Vanni with heavy casualties and civilians sources reporting the SF uses sea route from Mulaitivu and helicopters to transfer the wounded SF from battle field.
At least 2000 civilians including over 700 children were killed over 7000 injured within past two months of sustained SF shelling into civilians’ settlements in Mulaitivu, including government designated “Safe Zone” whiles the international community silently watching, a local aid worker told TNS reporter.
Recent sustained military thrust by the Sri Lankan SF causing huge human catastrophic situation in Vanni where over 300,000 innocent internally displaced civilians being targeted daily from, sea, land and air, killing thousands, injuring thousands by the SF. These civilians were living in subhuman conditions with no access to food, medicines, proper drinking water and sanitary conditions, a local activist still with these civilians told TNS reporter.
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