Thursday, June 4, 2009

UN on Sri Lanka: A Comedy of Errors

These days, talking about Sri Lanka means talking about the Sri Lankan military, its elite politicians and diplomats and…oh yes…The UN. Are we trying to single-out the UN or the “West” here? Not really. The UN is singling its own self out. In fact, the UN looks more ridiculous now than it did when it allowed the Tutsis to be killed in 1994. If you want proof, read the news items in the world press about ‘leaked’ UN reports where the dead Tamil civilians increased from 6,000 to 20,000 almost overnight. In another report, 13,130 civilians had ‘disappeared’ after arriving in the camps.

The UN, certain “Western Governments” and the pro-LTTE Tamil Diaspora are all saying, pretty much the same thing these days. They just cannot accept the fact that Sri Lanka, comprising of all ethnic groups, have prevailed over racist separatism. But this is a simplified way of looking at things.

The United Nations is primarily a tool to police developing countries—to keep them in line with the “West”. It seems that the morally righteous “West” is trying to make the rest of the world tag its line. There is no evidence to prove otherwise. The UN has a track record of selective interventions. The reasons for not intervening, for example in Rwanda, were because President Bill Clinton thought it inappropriate. So we know very clearly who is behind the current UN ‘actions’ against Sri Lanka.

An intervention by the UN in Rwanda was ‘inappropriate’ in 1994 because the UN, backed by the USA were humiliated in Somalia just before the Rwandan genocide started. The use of the word genocide was forbidden in the description of the violence in Rwanda. What in the world did the failed Somali excursion of the USA have to do with those poor Tutsis? Why were they punished by the same International Community who now screams genocide at the Sri Lankan state for wiping out the LTTE? The question on every Sri Lankan’s mind today is why did they all jump in to save the LTTE when they themselves opposed it and when the entire country of Sri Lanka and the rest of the free thinking world (even Communist China) wanted otherwise? What does China’s naval domination in south Asia, Iran’s generosity and Libya’s friendliness to Lanka have to do with Sri Lanka’s right to decide its national security?

The same groups running the UN from the "Western world" today allow a section of the Tamil Diaspora looters the free and undisturbed use of the word “Genocide” to describe the massacre of terrorists in Sri Lanka. How are these two things similar? Where were the Milibands, Kouchners and Clintons when Tutsi’s were massacred in the thousands for 3 months until the Interahamwe gave up on its own, tired? In fact, UN Secretary General Boutros Boutros Ghali refused to even visit Rwanda after the genocide. He was taken, almost by force to a Rwandan church to witness the horror with his own eyes. All he did even then was lie to the survivors that the UN wanted to help those dead Tutsis. Perhaps a Tutsi should have held Navi Pillai’s current position. Then that job would have made some sense.

Now that was a real genocide. Compared to that, what have the Sri Lankan Tamils faced? Large numbers of Tutsi’s were systematically removed from educational institutions in Rwanda. Even the most brilliant ones weren’t spared. In Sri Lanka, Tamil university students come to Colombo and help run the LTTE networks while surviving on government scholarships. Giving birth to a Tutsi child was a crime before and even after 1994. The birth of a Tutsi child was a closely guarded secret. The Tutsi mothers never saw the inside of the local hospital during that entire ordeal. In Sri Lanka, you walk to any hospital, even those in the south; you will see hundreds of ‘minorities’ obtaining free treatment.

No UN documents ‘leaked’ to the press about Rwanda back then. Why do they ‘leak’ now? How and why do these ‘leaks’ occur in the absence of evidence when actual facts about the Rwandan genocide could have been ‘leaked’ handsomely both before and after April 1994?

But the biggest question in our mind is that why do the Diaspora Tamils sitting comfortably abroad perpetuate such hatred when they themselves have nothing to lose or gain from continued violence in the name of separatism? The latest claim was for a Tamil Homeland. Why do Sri Lankan Tamils take this so seriously? Why do Tamils in South India, South Africa, Malaysia (including Prabhakaran’s father and Chelvanayaham), Singapore etc are demanding that the SRI LANKAN TAMILS MUST FIGHT FOR A TAMIL HOMELAND? Why don’t they do it themselves? WHY ONLY THE SRI LANKAN TAMILS, THE POOREST TAMILS ON EARTH, HAVE TO DIE IN THEIR THOUSANDS? Why can’t the Sri Lankan Tamils say NO. ENOUGH IS ENOUGH! TO HELL WITH YOUR HATRED! IT HAS BROUGHT US ONLY MISERY AND SHAME. WE CHOOSE TO LIVE, PROSPER AND COEXIST WITH THE SINHALESE. WE HAVE FINALLY EARNED THAT RIGHT!!!

If you look very closely, you will realize that the Tamil Homeland concept seems to be driven by a group of greedy Tamil elites more than lower class Tamils. The latter plays the subservient role of trooper, suicide bomber and child soldier while the rest live in luxury abroad and perpetuate the hatred. But mark these words. The day moderate Tamils start raising their heads AGAIN isn’t far away. This is all thanks to whom? Who else but the Sinhalese of course! The days of the Tamil racist is numbered in Sri Lanka.

dA

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I'm not Bhairav said...

Tamil business community hails president for defeating LTTE....

Peter Ratnadurei beware, the silent majority who was afraid to talk because of the LTTE is NOW openly coming to the foreground.

ReallyCold..... said...

Wijayapala

[The statistics also show that Tamil-speakers are heavily underrepresented in the SL govt. civil service- *demonstrating that they probably have less access to public employment than their Sinhala-speaking counterparts*. What is your take on that?]

True. This is because of favoritism by our politicians. Best example being some of the foreign consulate assignments.


However if anyone can look at the private sector, you will see a different picture.


[In 1972 we passed standardization on the argument that the Sinhalese were underrepresented in universities and the public sector. Now that the Tamil-speakers are underrepresented, wouldn't it be fair to implement a similar program on their behalf???]

I fully agree. Each sector should look like Sri Lanka's demography.

[This is a similar argument raised by Tamils who opposed standardization- that there were other reasons why Sinhalese were underrepresented in universities and the public sector before 1972.]

What were the other reasons? Sinhalese were stupid and lazy and uneducated idiots (Sorry priyashantha and Asithri).

I'm not Bhairav said...


‘Yal Devi’ leaves Colombo tomorrow for Thandikulam


Yippee!!! May the government give more priority to developing north and east than the rest of the country. Our fellow brothers/sisters in the N&E deserve the best! We in the south can wait a little longer...

Peter said...

Hmm

*Thinks out aloud*

Someone clicked on 'comments' in haste. Obviously, forgot to read the article.

Peter said...

http://www.defence.lk/img/20090605_15.jpg

No wonder, for heroes submerged in such splendor, complaints about internment camps would be baffling.

Unknown said...

EVAM ME SUTHAM (MA VISIN MESE ASANA LADI, So I have heard)


Brigadier General Paul W. Tibbets Jr , the man who piloted the B-29 plane that dropped the first atomic bomb on (Horoshima?) Nagasaki in 1948, was honored and decorated for finishing the second world war, for the greater good of the civilization.

He was not tried for war crimes.
War crimes were for the Japanese in Burma, and the Nazis in Germany.
Briton doesn’t need another “London Blitzkrieg” to remind them, how they lived in bunkers even deeper than Prabakaran’s.

Must Milliband hear the Air Raid sirens to remember, how fast his seniors ran for their dear life, the days when Goering was ruling the London night skies.

All this was put to end by Brigadier General Paul W. Tibbets Jr., who died November 1, 2007 at his home near Columbus, Ohio. He was 92. , with full military honors, and not as a traitor.
General Tibbets will be remembered for piloting the Enola Gay, a B-29 superfortress that dropped the first atomic bomb ever used in combat.

He had a mission -- to win the war, to end the war.

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Anonymous said...

yesterday, minister samarasingha called on thulawa, the expirattes in other countries than in AUSTRALIA to organize themselves to fight the misinformation campaign of the LTTE. In Australia , he commended the work of the SPUR and made a request to further do so. So I'm sure most of you from outside Sri Lanka can contact the task force created by Mr. Samarasingha. He said even government help can be provided, given that the initiative and commitment comes from the sri lankan citizens living abroad.

NO-PonnaSeka-2010 said...

Peter,

I do not want to give you talking points.

But if the civilians sent out to uncleared area's

- Step on millions of land mines provided by the diaspora funds to the LTTE and planted by the LTTE -

... you will be one of the first to start verbal diarrhea. It would be like "Sri Lanka not protecting Tamil civilians from SLDF planted land mines etc, etc".

Once again you are a sorry ass hole!. You think you will never grow old and feeble and need a walking stick or more???

Goolge said...

This is how Israel dealt with an aid ship coming into its waters:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/7871874.stm

Charitable Sceptic said...

Wijayapala,

Statistics show only a small part of the picture.

It is unfair to suggest that percentages of Tamil speakers in Government jobs today indicate an active bias against Tamil speakers.

Most Tamils do not WANT to join the government, which pays much less than the private sector and still has seniority based promotions. In general anyone who can speak Tamil with reasonable qualifications can find a job much easier than a Sinhala only speaker or an English-Sinhala speaker.

Besides who would want to work in Sri Lanka when enough opportunities are available in foreign countries to earn far more and have a much better standard of living. It is easier for Tamils to get overseas jobs, thanks to strong international connections that nearly everyone has.

I would be more interested to know the distribution of Tamil speaking students in government universities, which had always been skewed in favor of minorities in the more popular streams like medicine and engineering.

Even among Tamil students, Northern Tamils are overrepresented simply because the up-country Tamils and Eastern Tamils are underrepresented in the share of the pie assigned to all Tamil speakers.

It is easy to use statistics to prove that something exists, but hard to prove when something is absent.

Charitable Sceptic said...

Peter,

So you are making fun of the poverty and self sacrifice of the poor people who beat LTTE against all odds.

Isn't this is the return on your investment?

When your educated, wealthy people sent billions of dollars to LTTE, perhaps because of people like you, to deliver the Tamil-racist heaven to you and your cabal, did you ever expect that these poor, uneducated souls from rural Sri Lanka would get mad enough to dismantle your dreams?

Mango said...

Here you go Peter. You seem to enjoy looking at pictures of injured SLA soldiers. Just remember how and why they got their injuries.

http://www.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/3aeb227ed2.jpg

or

http://tinyurl.com/pew3ag

You can print this out, or use it as a desktop pic as a reminder of what could've been - if not for those injured soldiers. I told you how it would end in tears for the LTTE.

sorth said...

In Sri Lanka: Explaining the Tamil Tigers-HuffingtonPost.com,

"Disturbingly, another factor may also be involved. Racism. I wonder often why the Fight Against Terrorism seems to be a white man's fight, and when in the word's of Teddy Roosevelt, out "little brown brothers" stand up for themselves, somehow charges of abuse and rights violations are leveled by the West."

"The LTTE was involved in the 1990s in training the Moro Islamic Liberation Front (MILF) and the Abu Sayyaf Group (ASG), both of which are closely linked to al-Qaeda.

The Times of India has written about the alleged nexus between al-Qaeda and the LTTE, and claims that "[al-Qaeda links with the LTTE] are the first instance of an Islamist group collaborating with an essentially secular outfit."

It was rumored that the Indonesian group Jemaah Islamiya, which has known links to al-Qaeda, was trained in sea-borne guerrilla tactics by LTTE Sea Tiger veterans.

Reports have stated that the Tamil community in Norway, at the behest of the LTTE, sold fake and stolen Norwegian passports to al-Qaeda members."



http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jim-luce/in-sri-lanka-explaining-t_b_211249.html

velluprabhakaran said...

http://www.defence.lk/picturegallery/picc.asp?tfile=20090209&cat=DUTY

victim of peter's chicken shoot.

ThangachiPunday said...

PETER PETER IM DOING YOUR MOM IN MY BEAMER!!!!!

Peter please tell me in your investment banking mind while u r in singapore or where ever it is u r in your busy high profile schedule, how is the PEELAM war coming along? can u address these quesitions?

- Will Eelam be reached any time soon? are we close?

- U mentioned of SHEDDING LIGHT to the whole VP death and final days, will u be posting this SHEDDING of the LIGHT any time soon? is eelam close?

- Can u please tell me are we near? or Nearer to EELAM now? I know w r close, but how close?

- Why have u gone silent thangachi? What happend to all that " LTTE mighty force" type attitude?


I have tried to get some of this info from your mom but she just likes to Fux this sinhala dick.

Wunnukum

lol bunch of pussies u Thangachis!

NO-PonnaSeka-2010 said...

Defence Column,
Brother, I am sorry that you will not be getting involved as much as before. I wish you the best, for the future and hope we will see you as much as possible.

Thanks again for the great service rendered for overseas and SL based patriots.

Since Vezapillai is in Ealam, I am thinking of changing my blogger handle to something like "Navi-Da-Tamil-racist-Pillai" - may be too long. But I need something to paint this Tamil racist for what she is.

May Sri Lanka be one country with citizens who think of themselves as Sri Lankans first and not as Singhala, Tamil, Muslim, Papaya, mango, Silliband, hindu, bindu or what ever.

Peter said...

lol @ http://www.defence.lk/picturegallery/FeaturePix/20090209_04.jpg

wormly?

NO-PonnaSeka-2010 said...

Peter,

Why trol the defence.lk web site? Is Tamilnut no more fun?

Charitable Sceptic said...

BBC story on Sarath Silva's comments.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/8085403.stm

"A Sri Lankan minister has said that a top judge is "entitled to his own opinion" after criticising conditions in camps for displaced Tamils. Chief Justice Sarath Silva had said people in the camps were living in immense distress."

This is obviously very damaging to Sri Lanka, even if the comments are massaged to suit the BBC agenda and CJ was exaggerating a little to feel himself relevant.

We need to to help with the camps.

Government is obviously trying its best, but since it is the government servants who are working here we can't expect too many miracles.

What more can be done to help with the camps?

We need to make sure that their living conditions are so good that that they don't want to go back to their poverty for a while.

Better housing
Better toilets
Better food
Better entertainment

Truth is that condition in the camps are already better than some poorer parts of the country, but that doesn't matter to the people who want to point fingers.

Reporters arrive in Colombo and then go to Vanni, and contrast everything there to the conditions they have seen in the towns.

Unfortunately Sri Lanka still has real poverty, and some parts of North and East is still stuck in 1980's when Sri Lanka's per capita GDP was about $300 (vs current $4000). LTTE deliberately made it worse to score points with their fan base.

Now that celebrations are slowing, IDP camps should be number one priority in Sri Lanka, and MOD can take a lead to organize contributions.

Please do everything you can to make a difference.

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Thusitha said...

Charitable Sceptic said...
"A Sri Lankan minister has said that a top judge is "entitled to his own opinion" after criticising conditions in camps for displaced Tamils. Chief Justice Sarath Silva had said people in the camps were living in immense distress."

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yeah, I saw the article as well and was pretty pissed off, this coming from a Chief Justice. Most probably the cock su*** said this because he is about to retire and doesn't care about what he says any more. Every one knows it is a very sad situation and no one wants this kind of thing happening to them. But at the same time people should realize the reason for the IDP centres as well.

Being a Chief Justice he should be very mindful before making this type of comments. Idiot.

Push said...

@ CS,
there was a rumor about a year ago that he has asked UNP to give a higher rank(PM) to him in UNP if they want him to join. May be just a rumor. We'll see in the future.

Peter said...

For Tamils, Westerners and some UNPers tents in internment camps look pathetic.

For hand to mouth banads, like the 'hero' paraded on DefenceLK, the camp probably looks like a luxury development.

Thirty years ago, back in Trinco, our cow shed was better built than what some banda 'heroes' call home in 2009.

Lol! Glorious nation of bandastan, and its brainy people, never fail to amuse me.

Charitable Sceptic said...

Peter my friend,

"Thirty years ago, back in Trinco, our cow shed was better built than what some banda 'heroes' call home in 2009."

Wake up. That was 30 years ago. You no longer have that cow shed to go back to.

Tamils are finally free to do as they please, and we know that scares you.

Your racism destroyed the poor Tamils and Sinhalese, but they will eventually get over it, but you, the smart Tamil who has it all, will have to carry that to your judgment day.

NO-PonnaSeka-2010 said...

Peter,

These are Temporary camps and NOT internment camps, as you are trying to rename them.

BTW, Did every one else in Trinco have a house better than your cattle shed?

These camps are supposed to be simple, safe and with good health practices till the people can be moved to their previous place of residence.

We should not be building luxury camps by Sri Lanka standards - but use that money to settle the people with a better lot than that they had under LTTE.

As for the poor Bandas - who do you think paid for your fre education? Even poor bandas did as they pay taxes in the form of goods they purchase - the Government does not grow money to fund your free education. It is with taxes got from all sri lankans - including from future generations (when it comes to loans).

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Peter said:
For Tamils, Westerners and some UNPers tents in internment camps look pathetic.

For hand to mouth banads, like the 'hero' paraded on DefenceLK, the camp probably looks like a luxury development.
me.....//

Sujeewa Kokawala said...

Peter;

[[Lol! Glorious nation of bandastan, and its brainy people, never fail to amuse me.]]

So do you and your super supreme race Peter. Thank you for jokes in past 26years [and before]. Keep up the good work.

Every damage that south Indian and colonial invaders did to the attitudes of our nation was corrected by you guys. Right now almost all are rallying around one goal, that is to develop this nation. International tiger community gave this remarkable gift to us.

Peter said...

Charitable Sceptic,

One does not have to be 'rich' to afford decent shelter, as Tamils world over has proven.

Even Bandas could have sufficient housing, if they weren't such barbarians.

Peter said...

Vezapillai Prabakaran,

Internment camp isn't such a bad term. Internment means mass detention. Isn't that the case? If you are bothered, you can call them temporary internment camps. Nonetheless, factually, my term is correct.

Not good to assume that I had 'free education'.

Rajaratasurfer said...

DW.....I've been saying all this time the same UN rubbish ! Ya hit it on the nail man ! Love it ! UN wants everyone in line with the west so the West can manupilate our economies & access....! Bottomline !

Good Post brother !

NO-PonnaSeka-2010 said...

Peter,
On the "free education" - did you pay for your Grade 1 education - I mean fully, not a cent from the country etc.

Peter said...

FYI,

The Oxford English Dictionary (1989) gives the meaning as: "The action of ‘interning’; confinement within the limits of a country or place".

You've googled for historical use.

Factually, a camp where thousands of people are detained (interned) is an internment camp.

Anonymous said...

Wijayapala

/No. I gave one example among others (although an important one) to see whether you would disprove it or slip into denial mode like another "defense enthusiast."/

If you know any "equal right a tamil citizen doesn't have and a sinhala citizen has" why don't you just list them one by one for our information? (I don't think its any hard job to do..) You gave one example and check I disprove it or deny it and what's your plan? Depending on I disprove it or deny it will you give your second example or keep it as a top secret?

/This is one of the few examples where I can show statistics to back my point, since it would be difficult if not impossible to quantify other discrimination in Sri Lanka (for example, how police operations target Tamils, even though it has been proven that the LTTE has used Sinhala agents for terrorism in the south)./

Your statistics don't back your claim. A right is some thing given by the constitution and if you say there is a right a tamil citizen doesn't have and a sinhala citizen has you should cite the relevant part from the constitution. Moreover, if that is some thing not addressed by the constitution you should point out exactly what right it is. You didn't do either.

You have a point regarding the language rights from 56 to 87. As far as I know by the 13th amendment both sinhala and tamil are official languages and that issue is solved by the constitution.

Your statistics shows less ratio but that doesn't prove any discrimination. If you have evidence you can go to court and file a case if that less ratio is due to discrimination. Less ratio does not automatically prove there is any kind of discrimination as it can e a result of many other reasons as I mentioned earlier. We even don't know whether there were enough qualified applicants from tamils proportionate to ethnic ratio when recruiting since 87.

It seems like your second example is "how police operations target Tamils, even though it has been proven that the LTTE has used Sinhala agents for terrorism in the south". Again what's your point? Do you know out of total proven LTTErs hou many are tamil and how many are sinhala? I guess almost 99% it is tamils and rest is others. So are you saying a tamil citizen don't have a equal right because police don't target sinhalese and police should target sinhalese as well and doing so a tamil citizen get that equal right?

(cont.)

Anonymous said...

(cont.)

/"When I asked "what are the 'equal rights' a tamil SL citizen doesn't have and a sinhala SL citizen has?" you should be able to give me explicit right which a general tamil citizen is not entitled to enjoy but a sihala citizen enjoys in general. I don't see such a case in your answer."

Sinhala-Only was passed in 1956 on the argument that the majority of the population who didn't speak English lacked the right to have access to their own government.

What I am pointing out here is that a Tamil-speaker has less access to his/her govt than a Sinhala speaker. Basically the Tamils have to go through more or less the same difficulties today that the Sinhalese did before 1956./

I asked the question in present tense. Means any equal right issue today and this is 2009 why you go back to 1956 which was fixed in 1987?

Well, we can identify the following categories.
1. Only sinhala and tamil speaking tamils
2. Only english and tamil speaking tamils
3. Sinhala, English and tamil speaking tamils
4. Only tamil speaking tamils

As you know before 56 English was the official language. (Not tamil.) Thus changing the official language from english to sinhala you can see only No2 which is english speaking tamils get affected. There cannot be any difference to only tamil speaking tamils.

The truth is tamil leaders didn't try to change the langauge from englis to tamil after 1948: they were happy with english no matter what difficulty only tamil speaking tamils had. Language became the problem only when sinhalese wanted english to be changed to sinhala. We note tamil language is not involved in this process. It is english being replaced by sinhala.

Tamil (leaders) had no problem earning english and accepting British as their rulers and masters. But they are not willing to accept sinhalese as at least partners and their language as at least a communication tool. Instead demand separate state.

/The statistics also show that Tamil-speakers are heavily underrepresented in the SL govt. civil service- *demonstrating that they probably have less access to public employment than their Sinhala-speaking counterparts*. What is your take on that?/

It shows their ratio is less:true. That doesn't prove they don't have equal rights or even any discrimination happens unless it is proved. Perhaps, simply, tamils don't want to join public service. We need to look at the trend and in long run we should expect ethnic ration to be the same as national level in every sector but this can't happen overnight. If political influence (minister) is a reason for this we need to fix it. Solution is good governance.

/In 1972 we passed standardization on the argument that the Sinhalese were underrepresented in universities and the public sector. Now that the Tamil-speakers are underrepresented, wouldn't it be fair to implement a similar program on their behalf???/

You passed standardization in 1972 and abolished it in 1977. What's the point arguing on some thing already abolished? This may be the tamil racists interpretation on standardization but our understanding is it was about giving more access to higher education for youth in rural areas instead of urban areas. Both elite tamil class in Jaffna and same sinhala class in western province lost while both tamil in wanni and sinhalese in rural areas gained.

As I know such program is there. Such as salary increase if you so proficiency in tamil etc. (I don't know much about how well it works.)


/You could use your brain too and take another look. The graphic chart lists the year 2002 (provisionial)./

Sorry it is from 2002. I had to use my eyes not brain, though. Its 4 year difference and still the main point is valid: You need to look at the trend, and see we we are heading.

CASC said...

LTTE associates reject giving assets worth billions of rupees to KP

(Lanka-e-News, June 05, 2009, 7.30 PM) Sri Lankan intelligence bureaus have learnt that the present owners of the LTTE’s assets world wide have rejected handing over them to the self-proclaimed LTTE leader Kumaran Pathmanathan alias KP.

LTTE purchased property world wide with the wealth collected as ransom from the Tamil diaspora except buying weapons. They were run under the names of the LTTE’s trusted associates and they transferred a large portion of the profit to the LTTE’s account.

Except Sri Lanka, the country where highest numbers of Sri Lankan Tamils live is Canada. It is no secret that these Canadian Tamils funded LTTE mostly. Thava Eliyathambi who is famous among Canadian Tamils as an open sympathizer of the LTTE and as a person that worshipped Prabakaran daily was gifted a shopping complex from North Finch. The name of the business is North Finch Shopping Center.



LTTE bought several houses from Colombo and a medical center from Cinnamon Gardens via Eliyathambi. He was also eying a business of wind powered electricity generation in Sri Lanka.

Eliyathambi quickly changed his pro-Vanni stance as soon as the LTTE leader Prabakaran was killed. Sri Lankan intelligence bureaus have come to know that he has planned to find his daughter a Sinhalese husband and to vest in all the property in Sri Lanka to them.




Another couple that changed their position with the demise of the LTTE leader is Joseph and Gowry Malan. LTTE has purchased a Hindu temple in their names. T. Thavamanikkam, Das Navarathnam, Sri Narayandas and several others also have changed their loyalties. LTTE has bought a large number of properties in Das Navarathnam’s name in Sri Lanka, Malaysia and Bangladesh.

The associations that were run by the LTTE have also begun to alienate. The members of the Senior Tamil citizens’ Association of Canada ousted its Chairman Pon Kulendran last week. His rival K. Warprashasam won the post with a majority of 100 votes. Canadian police has begun an investigation regarding 169,000 dollar fraud that took place under the chairmanship of Pon Kulendran, say Canadian Tamil Association sources

NO-PonnaSeka-2010 said...

Peter,

Factually the meaning of internment camp is

a prison camp for the confinement of enemy aliens, prisoners of war, political prisoners, etc.

From "Dictionary.com" lea

Peter said...

When even bandas are able to get online, such definitions are expected.

Internment is different from imprisonment.

I'll try my best to help you come to terms with the internationally accepted definition of the places where Tamils are detained:

Are people detained in the camps, i.e. do they have freedom of movement?

On what basis are people selected for detention?

Note: I am not complaining about the camps. Just calling them what they are.

Charitable Sceptic said...

"Even Bandas could have sufficient housing, if they weren't such barbarians."

Well, Peter, you should really expand the circle of Sinhalese people you associate with.

Sure there are a few barbarians among Sinhalese, just like among Tamils and everyone else, but rest of the people is really not bad.

In fact, poor Sinhalese people are a lot like poor Tamil people. They are pretty much the salt of the earth, extremely timid, kind and generous to a fault.

Is that how you exploited those people's gullibility? Using them as a down payment for your racist utopia?

Diaspora Tamils hang on to ideas like Sinhala barbarianism and Tamil genocide for different reasons.

Some of them honestly believe the LTTE propaganda, so their contribution to using poor Tamils as an expendable commodity is indirect.

But others like you, who should know Sri Lanka very well, still spread hatred against Sinhalese as if they are the only reason for the evil that you created.

There must be something that is deeply disturbing to you in your psyche to have such a grudge.

But I suspect you are like an addict, having being used to the hatred for so long you are unable to stop at this stage even though the years are passing by.

Still, being the smart guy you are, your conscience will someday get back at your sins. Not a happy thought for me, but that is how the world works.

Sam Perera said...

Being Nobody said...

"Sam,
"Many patriots should know what it means by another 2,500 years"

Beats me! (-does it mean i am not a patriot? lol)

until Buddhism lasts in SL?"

It can be a mere coincidence. In general use, people talk in terms of 100s of generations to mean "as long as possible."

ReallyCold,

Take it easy. See my comments to BN above.

NO-PonnaSeka-2010 said...

Hey Peter,

I am a "proud" bad ass Banda. Your definition was from The Oxford English Dictionary (1989)

Mine was from Random House 2009
Freedom of movement - sure they have it. But at risk to their safety. So the Gov has to restrict it.

I got to go - to the loo in the Pelam.

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Peter said,
When even bandas are able to get online, such definitions are expected.

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/The only way to protect a nation is through wisdom, not using a millitary.

Let's set the vision for short term (1-5) years and 5+ years first./

We still cultivate from he water in the tanks built 2000 years ago.. For our luck, our kings who built 100s of tanks didn't have "5 years wisdom"...

Anonymous said...

/Thamilselven’s kids prefer fast foods

In what has now transpired as the luxurious life styles of LTTE leaders, the two children of the late S.P. Thamilselvan the former LTTE political wing leader are said to partake of fast foods like pastries and biscuits instead of rice and curry.

Minister Rajitha Senaratne who met Mr. Thamilselvan’s wife at a welfare camp in Vavuniya told Daily Mirror yesterday these two kids -- one in Grade five and the other in Grade 1do not eat rice and curry.

Dr. Senaratne said she had money to buy such food items for kids in Vavuniya.

“They have attended a school in Kilinochchi,” he said.

Ms. Thamilselvan, a dancing teacher by profession, had lived in Colombo before she introduced to her husband by LTTE’s chief ideologue Anton Balasingham.

She now lives in a welfare camp in Vavuniya, away from other refugees./

Ha Ha What food peter prefers?

MayilRavana මයිල් රාවන said...

Peter,

"wormly"

Yes that's funny; to laugh at our cousins with poor knowledge in English.

But I was thinking, while you're laughing, remember when you point a finger there are 4 others pointing back at you.

What if this was a "pun". Did you think about that bro? You can interpret it it as you like:

"wormly"= Warmly

"wormly"= We will be happy to see LTTE coolies come and beg for forgivenes.

Got it bro?

nuclear said...

Good to read at
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jim-luce/in-sri-lanka-reconciliati_b_210541.html

and
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jim-luce/in-sri-lanka-explaining-t_b_211249.html

MayilRavana මයිල් රාවන said...

Charitable Sceptic,

No use trying to heal Peter by appealing to his humanity. He has deep hurts.

His father was a drunk who beat the crap out of him and the mother f^@%ed the Sinhala neighbour. Instead of blaming his dad for his psychological scars he blames the sinhalas.

To get down to the "roots" (heh heh) of his problem he needs very careful handling by an experienced psychotherapist. The guy is like a time-bomb. Hopefully he would be in London when he goes off.

MayilRavana මයිල් රාවන said...

Peter,
Face it.
Tamil women love the sinhala guys. (and we love them; they appreciate a good thing). When you are plotting in dingy London grottos against your mother land, guess what's happening under the sheets?

Just one of the reasons why they love us. We are interested in the woman. We don't keep hassling her asking "is it big enough; tell me tell me tell me".

You ought to try showing more interest in her p^$$y rather than your d!@k.

Oh... another reason ; they love a big d!@k now and then; better than a lollypop they say.

MayilRavana මයිල් රාවන said...

Peter the misogynist is talking about "internment camps"

Yako, you have the same genes as us (ask your mother) but the difference is that the mysogynists went north while those of us who loved to show our women a good time stayed south.

So what did you guys do? You kept your women behind picket fences (or was it Murunga fence) beyond which they were not permitted.

We treat your women like we treat the sinhala goddesses. (BTW when we treat a woman lie goddess we make her FEEL like one not put her on her pedestal and watch from afar). Ask Tamilselvam's wife how she is treated.

hemantha said...

Ambassador of India responds to Navi Pillay's remarks on Sri Lanka at the UN in Geneva (I think Pillay is in trouble)

click here

Suren said...

Thank you Defence Column for your excellent work in the hour of need.
Enjoy the bliss of married life to the best!
May the NTG shower its blessings on both of you!

lankaputhra said...

This is bit serious situation:

There are 3,100 pregnant women in welfare villages set up for the IDPs and 60 percent of them are between the age of 16 and 17.

Healthcare and Nutrition Ministry has taken action to provide them special care, Healthcare and Nutrition Ministry spokesman said.

He said that 2,900 pregnant women have already been directed to clinics and given required nutrition, medications and care. The Ministry has also made arrangements to set up a special blood bank to provide blood for these pregnant women when required.

According to the spokesman the Ministry has also taken action to allocate Cheddikulam Maha Vidyalaya for these pregnant women.

The Ministry has also discovered that 75 percent of the IDPs in welfare villages suffer from orthopedic problems and the Ministry will set up a special ward with 100 beds in Cheddikulam, Manik Farm to treat those patients.

.......................
GOSL must supply enough condoms for IDPs otherwise babies without Fathers will be very high in SL...and would lead to another problem..

Peter said...

Ninja,

Why am I not surprised to see hand to mouth bandas enjoying sadistic pleasure in forcing Tamils to feed on kiribath and pol sambol. Still, not on par.

MayilRavana,

Confirmed yourself as a canal breed. Now, some wonder why we look down on bandas. *hint, hint*

lankaputhra,

If only. We wouldn't have to deal with Sam 'parangi' Perera, here.

Next time when mommy leaves for Libya, slip a pack of condom in her case. Sure you don't want a fatherless, half Arab brother.

Pandula said...
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Pandula said...

Blogger Peter said...

When even bandas are able to get online, such definitions are expected.




Oi.

This is not the place to discuss queen's English.

This is a place for all fellow Srilankans to discuss our ideas hoping some one to pick up something.

Although you are just another WORM in the dead tigers body, your sarcasm can use for productive thinking

e.g once you said;
"ability to find Banda, if prize is right"

back to your English lessons.

You are bit late, could have given your lessons to 3rg grade dropout fat-vir mfker.

now here is a good Queen's English for you.

NOW, go fuck yourself


Moderate Tamils please excuse, directed to Terrorists.

wijayapala said...

Reasonably Treasonable,

"Your statement about a lasting peace being impossible with the LTTE around does not bother me, since I agree with you on that."

Then you acknowledge that 1) the end of the farcical CFA was inevitable and 2) the govt's decisive end to the war has removed the major obstacle to lasting peace.

"How did the IC restrain the govt?"

How else would you explain the govt doing absolutely nothing while the LTTE was racking up CFA violations literally by the thousands for such a long time. Or why Mahinda did not declare the end of the CFA until Jan 2008.

"Through non-communalist forces (both within LTTE-occupied territories, and from the South) leading the fight, rather than racists fighting other racists. Racists fighting other racists just lands us at square one. For instance, had the war been ended by people with a progressive political outlook, subsequent demilitarisation would’ve been a given."

Could you please specify these "non-communalist forces" having a "progressive political outlook"???? Do they belong in the same category as Santa Claus and the Tooth Fairy?? If not, could you kindly explain where the hell they have been for all these decades????

"I am not saying the situation in 2005 should have been sustained forever, but a return to open warfare was not the only solution. Peaceful options simply had not been exhausted."

Could you please list these peaceful options, and kindly assign a value of realistic probability that they could have been implemented (scale of 1-10, with 1 being "so utterly pie-in-the-sky that only a total fool would suggest it").

"Rajapakse was not forced into war in 2005."

You're correct- he didn't end the CFA after the LTTE murdered the Foreign Minister, or when the LTTE launched the shadow war in Jaffna in the winter of 05-06, or even when the LTTE unsuccessfully tried to blow up Fonseka in April 06. He sat there and took it while "progressive forces" like yourself were looking the other way.

Mavil Aru forced him to choose between acting like the elected leader of a sovereign state or handing over the security of the country to clueless and utterly ineffective Norwegians. After making that decision, he made another to end this 30-year nonsense once and for all. I'm no fan of Mahinda and his lack of an overall vision, but it is this one decision that I have to respect.

"Yes the LTTE had behaved recklessly – but so had the hawkish elements within the govt, who had clamoured for a return to war since the day the ceasefire was signed."

Let me get it straight- you're equating the shrieking of the JHU/JVP to the **continued child recruitment, murder of Tamil dissidents, and blatant assaults on the security forces by the LTTE** ("you're getting a little 'reckless' here Velu, don't you think?")????????

wijayapala said...

"Whether the LTTE would have crumbled much quicker if its top leadership been killed earlier in the war is baseless conjecture"

Nope, it's a fact. The end of the LTTE was very much quickened by the deaths of Theepan and others in early April. In fact, the deaths of Prabhakaran and the others are the basis for my argument with the "defense enthusiasts" here that there will never be a resurrection of the LTTE in any of our lifetimes.

"I think that when the Tamil moderates were killed off by the LTTE in the 80s and 90s especially (when SLA and ILPK brutality was in full force), the average Tamil looked the other way, not because it didn’t bother them, but because they were scared by the prospect of an SLA victory, and scared that opposing the LTTE was akin to asking for an SLA victory."

Interesting argument, and I'm willing to give you the benefit of the doubt to a certain extent. However, you're not providing much of an alternative if you think that the solution should have been to disband the SLA.

Critics of the IPKF generally have ignored the fact that the Indians didn't commit a single atrocity against the Tamils until they were attacked by the LTTE. Going by your logic, the Tamils should have sided with the IPKF when the LTTE brazenly started Eelam War 1.5. Quite a number actually did (and I'm not talking about the "Three Stars" paramilitaries which came up a bit later when the IPKF had little choice but to rely on them), but they reinforce my point that they were insufficient to stand up to the LTTE.

The SLMM itself noted that the govt's CFA violations paled to the LTTE's in more recent times. Perhaps that would explain why the Tamils were not so eager to save the LTTE from destruction, much unlike IPKF times. At the same time, they still lacked the ability to stand up to the LTTE.

"But that wouldn’t change the fact of dictatorship, and that you can only trample on people’s rights so long before something gives."

There is quite a bit of history that disproves this, and you need look no further than colonial history.

//But by comparing the SLG with the LTTE, you are setting yourself up for a fall. Do you really think that the average Tamil in LTTE territory lived equally as well as the average Sinhala in govt territory?????//

"No, but that is mostly because there was a war raging for 30 years on LTTE territory, and not on govt territory"

But what about the CFA period?? How come things didn't get better for the Tamils during that period?

"This is significant because LTTE child recruitment actually fell after this somewhat (due to international pressure), such that there were about 300 children below age 18 in LTTE custody in mid-2007, compared to up to 400 children held by the Karuna group around the same time!"

Uhh... this is what I read in your link:

As of September 2007 the total number of children known to have been recruited by the LTTE since January 2002 was well over six thousand, although the real number was thought to be much higher.

"Why do you think UTHR is more credible than HRW? Is it because it says things that you like to hear, or because it doesn’t say the things you don’t like to hear?"

Because UTHR as a Tamil organization actually has direct links on the ground, and I happen to know that the HRW uses UTHR as one of its main sources.

Pandula said...


Blogger lankaputhra said...

This is bit serious situation: IDPs and 60 percent of them are between the age of 16 and 17.


Indeed, it is a problem.

This problem manifested since Tmail parents force the kids be pregnant so that these kids avoid been captured by LTTE to become child solders.

While we blog under HR subject, this is another HR case for blind stupid UN.

But lets look at the brighter side.

As some countries bribe citizens to get pregnant by giving tax cuts etc, we have enough people to develop the country.

kaatikuddupaan said...

In my opinion two options are left :

SL tamils keep supporting the diaspora eelamists till the last tamil is wiped out, or till eelam is acheived


SL tamils are preached the bodhi dharma by Sinhalese so that all of us become the same.

What do you all think ?

Anonymous said...

I wrote:

"Thamilselven’s kids prefer fast foods"

"What food peter prefers?"

Perhaps, for this;

/Peter said...
Ninja,

Why am I not surprised to see hand to mouth bandas enjoying sadistic pleasure in forcing Tamils to feed on kiribath and pol sambol. Still, not on par./

I am confused... Seems all the peelamians gone mad..

Anonymous said...

/kaatikuddupaan said...
In my opinion two options are left :/

There are more options left... What you can think of as options is sunjected to your knowledge..

Gamekoluwa said...

Pandula said...
Oi.
This is not the place to discuss queen's English.


well said pandula aiyya, elama kiri,

ado peeeeetaaaarrrrrr....
Queen's Windsor palace looking for a Royal caretaker.( for her royal dogs,) fancy applying for it, please send your cv to reed.co.uk/Windsor office
ps. This is a good opportunity for you peeeetaaaaarrr, as you are THE master of Queens mother tong, and with your special skill of toilet cleaning,(PHD Toilet eng, lon) tooting sakiliyas will never have chance as they pronouns water as WAAAAAtERRRRRRRR, hope you pronounce as fluent as you write. get life sucker, ....lttp and their English, hik hik hik??

Gamekoluwa said...

Patriots,
When some of us say we have a problem ... it sounds not correct.. i guess, i think we have an opportunity.

Peter said...

Ouch! I think I've touched a raw nerve.

Thusitha said...

Ninja said...
/The only way to protect a nation is through wisdom, not using a millitary.

Let's set the vision for short term (1-5) years and 5+ years first./

We still cultivate from he water in the tanks built 2000 years ago.. For our luck, our kings who built 100s of tanks didn't have "5 years wisdom"...

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Well said Ninja. Stupid five year plans of the politicians are the reason we got fucked for the last 30 or so years. Our ancient kings had the right plans and that is why we are a still a nation who can hold our heads high. After the fucking British we forgot who we were; we come from people with lion hearts. So it is about time we act in that way and try to build a nation that would last for next 100 generations.

Peter said...

Ninja,
I don't eat fast food. Can't help but chuckle when I see bandas having parties at KFC, though. Lol! World needs more bandas. Good thing people aren't 'forgetting' parcels on buses.

Highlander said...

Kaatikuddupaan,

SL tamils keep supporting the diaspora eelamists till the last tamil is wiped out, or till eelam is achieved

This is going on and will wipe out sime!


SL tamils are preached the bodhi dharma by Sinhalese so that all of us become the same.

This also going on will save the rest who want to be peaceful.

The question is which side you want to be?

MayilRavana මයිල් රාවන said...

kaatikuddupaan,

Stop the bullshit. Sri Lanka is the only nation on Earth with all 4 major religions represented prominently. Sri Lankans like it that way. We want a multicultural fabric. We just don't want racist ethnic conclaves.

And after sinhala/kerala food we love Tamil food the best.

As I have said before we very much like Tamil women. They are delicious. And bro, I love the Tamil brothers I have met in my time. Because they are just likeable but also because they have mostly been honest and reliable.

MayilRavana මයිල් රාවන said...

Peter Ponna,
Oooooh! You can give it but you can't take it. Well then, you shouldn't try and hang out with the big boys.

Any way gotta go. Busy winning South Asian Hearts and Minds.

Gamekoluwa said...

Ninja said..I am confused... Seems all the peelamians gone mad..

very true, interestingly hard core peelam fellas in new Malden, Toolworth, Tooting and Wimbledon waking like zombies. If you ask them how are you mate? They say ‘’’’siri Lanka goverrrrrrment tell lies aiyya, sun got is still alive.

p.s Today on uk kotihada, one top pheelam Muppet cried. ...this is what he said’’ (as per my Tamil friend)uncle, aunty, daddy, mummy, brother sister, son daughter please come to our protest, this is our only chance, yesterday we had disappointment with only 30 people. Come on the names of the dead thalivar.. We have to show British government, leave your work. Close your shops please come ...please come.
Interestingly pleading rat is running a ticket office in tooting area and he is one of the srilankan airline direct agent. Srilankan airline should act against people like rajan, directly involve with LTTP. Srilankan CEO Manoj should know these rats as he was once the country manager(UK) for srilankan airlines






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Ananda-USA said...

Pray tell me: Is this "Genocide" by Indian Troops in Kashmir, or the Elected Legitimate Govt of India restoring Law & Order?


[ Thousands of troops patrol Kashmir streets

ExpressBuzz.com
June 5, 2006

SRINAGAR, India: Thousands of troops patrolled the streets of Indian Kashmir on Friday after nearly a week of street protests against the deaths of two young women locals say were raped and killed by Indian soldiers.

Decked out in riot gear and carrying automatic assault rifles, Indian troops flooded the streets in a show of force in Srinagar, the main city of the disputed Himalayan region. They erected barricades and laid razor wire at street crossings in Srinagar and other major towns.

One person was killed and about 300 others were injured in protests since Saturday when authorities recovered the bodies of a 17-year-old girl and her 22-year-old sister-in-law in a shallow stream in Shopian, 35 miles (60 kilometers) south of Srinagar.

Police say the women appeared to have drowned, but their families and locals accuse Indian troops of raping and killing them. The Indian military has not responded to the allegations.

The state government has ordered a judicial probe into the deaths but the protests have continued. Rights groups say such probes rarely yield results and are often meant only to calm public anger.

Anti-India separatists have called for more demonstrations after Friday prayers in the predominantly Muslim region.

Human rights groups and separatist leaders have long accused the Indian military of using rape and sexual molestation to intimidate the local population.

Shops, businesses and government offices also remained closed in much of Kashmir after a general strike was called Monday by the All Parties Hurriyat Conference, Kashmir's main separatist conglomerate of nonviolent political groups.

Most in Kashmir favor independence from India or a merger with Pakistan. The region is divided between the two nuclear-armed neighbors, and both claim the region in its entirety.

Militant separatist groups have been fighting since 1989 to end Indian rule. More than 68,000 people, mostly civilians, have been killed in the uprising and subsequent Indian crackdown.

kevin said...

We all attended the meeting at Oxford union attended by Mr Sarath Amunugama MP
Where he made a point which may be the only significant point made where he said that the only way to counter the propaganda against the Arabs was the TV Ch Aljazeera where the best broadcasters were recruited from all over the world and he asked why SL do likewise. The simple answer is big money that could be only found if we allow enterprises to flourish with an inbuilt modern enterprises in SL Unfortunately that meeting had no desired effect as no message was ever given to the people in the country as the participants are the usual SL crowd that gather together. The people and the leaders fro SL could have given some good advice if not for drowned by the usual ranting and grumblings and it was a waste of our good time going there.
The usual tiger supporters did not turn up to our delight as they seem to be losing interest in their endless protests getting them nowhere.

Gamekoluwa said...

BBC..
Tories 'winning across England'
another peelam dream is falling over the iranamadu tank. All peelamist investment over keeth vasalingam and David Milibandanathan gone to dogs. In Buddhism it says some karma(i think ditta damma vedaniya karma) that will get you result instantly. That’s what happen to brown and the clowns. Anyway soon brown and Band Company will wipe out and despaired as vesapilay praba. So no one will remember any of these jerks.

CASC said...

Some food for thought

When Shekar Gupta of the Indian Express (one of the top journalists in India) interviewed President MR last week on NDTV's "Walk the Talk," he asked the Prez (I can't remember his exact words) what he intends to do for the Tamils. Understanding the implications of that loaded question, the President very wisely and sincerely replied that many of his own family are Tamils, and in turn the Prez asked Shekar Gupta a rhetorical question "How can I treat my family members badly ?" The President then indicated that his niece's husband is Tamil and that his niece is a member of parliamant. I think what this story illustrates is that within a certain segment of the population the traditional racial disticntions no longer exist. The majority of the people in the Colombo municipal area are non-Sinhalese. There are many instances of inter-marriage within all segments of society. I have two first cousins in their early twenties and their husbands are Tamil.

Even in India where society is more stratified because of caste, religious and linguistic distinctions, the great equalizer
has been inter-marriage between communities, especially in urban areas.

Tamil society is not homogeneous either. There seems to be several groups within it, with each group having a different mindset:

The cosmolitan younger urban Tamils who easily mingle with their Sinhalese peers.

The Tamil business community (yesterday over 800 of them met with the President and garlanded him) who don't really care about anything except making money

Some of the diaspora Tamils in the west who are still caught up in the 1983 time warp and who still think about a Sinhala nation and Tamil nation.

The younger Tamils who have lived their entire lives in LTTE-controlled areas for the past two decades. They have been brainswashed like people in any totalitarian society such as North Korea.

Some of the younger plantation Tamils who also easily fit into Sinhalese society. Many of them have studied Sinhala in secondary school and will probably put me to shame in their fluency of Sinhala.

Of course, its very difficult to make generalizations when it concerns human beings.

Pandula said...


Blogger kaatikuddupaan said...

In my opinion two options are left :



first I like your how your alias sounds.

about your quetion

lets keep things simple

good tamil / bad tamil
good singhalalese / bad singhalease
good moor / bad moor

patriot / traitor.

winner / loser

see, simple !!

Ananda-USA said...

THE GREAT RESCUE!

Sri Lanka Army RESCUED 138,000 SRI LANKAN TAMILS! EAT YOUR HEARTS OUT....Tamil Diaspora LTTE supporters!

Way to go, Sri Lanka Army! WE LOVE YOU!

While all of our enemies, these PUSILLANIMOUS PUNDITS, NATTTERING NABOBS OF NEGATIVITY, criticized and denigrated your world class accomplishments, quietly without fanfare YOU ACHIEVED OUR NATIONAL GOAL of rescuing our fellow Tamil citizens, the unfortunate prisoners of the LTTE and REUNIFIED our country!

There is NO OTHER ARMY IN THE WORLD that can match you for your PATRIOTISM, your SACRIFICE, your COURAGE, your SKILL and above all your HUMANITY towards our TAMIL CITIZENS held hostage by the LTTE.

GO FORWARD and NEVER LOOK BACK, BRAVE SONS OF LANKA! THIS GRATEFUL NATION SHALL NEVER FORGET YOU!

Charitable Sceptic said...

Kaatikuddupaan,

Bro, we understand your confusion.

You have the right to get upset, but I don't think you should threaten to go back to terrorism. That is not going to help. It was tried to the maximum level and destroyed nearly everything. Only heartless people want to kill another generation to get revenge.

It has only been only 3 weeks. Remember, it took 30 years to get here, so have patience. We can't go from total war to total peace just like that.

A lot of people taking care of the camps and other things are still learning what to do in their new jobs. This is a really tough situation so there will be problems. But we need to help not threaten.

Anyway, you have been around Sinhalese long enough to know that our bark much is worse than our bite. People will say nasty things in the heat of the moment, but actually they will never do any of those things.

We want reasonable people like you to join hands with us and avoid extremists from taking control of the uneducated Tamil once again. You should never be a tool to anyone.

One day you can tell the whole world the truth about LTTE, because you knew what they were really like, unlike the foreign Tamils who have never lived under the power of LTTE.

One thing you should be sure about in the future is that Sinhalese have changed a lot during last 30 years. Sinhalese today can't do anything unfair to the innocent Tamils because there will be far more Sinhalese who will jump in to stop that from happening. You should know all this by now, so take your time before doing anything foolish.

Tamils and Sinhalese have lot of different people and you can join whoever group you like.

Anyway my advice is, you should join Sri Lankan team, not the Sinhalese team or the Tamil team.

Sniper said...

UN: "Last" Sri Lanka Meeting Is Closed, "Just a Briefing,".

As the UN Security Council assembled in the basement for what they say will probably be their last meeting on Sri Lanka, where U.S. Ambassador Rosemary DiCarlo indicted, "this is just a briefing."

Link.

The last ray of hope for the peelamiists faded away...

wonder what Nazi Pillay has to say now? one thing for sure...she still be wanting to get some money from the peelamists..

too bad!!! the whole world is taking the peelamists, the so called "SUPERIOR" race for rides...

hak hak hak...

Nilupul said...

Superb article! straight to the point.

I'll give all my friends a classic example.

I know a place in Colombo, where group of Sinhalese collected many thousands of rupees for those Tamils escaped from LTTE, during the last rescue operations by SLA, BUT SOME TAMILS WHO WERE IN THAT COMPANY DID NOT CONTRIBUTE !

They openly said they were traitors!

Sniper said...

Sri Lanka Ambassador Dayan Jayatilleka responds to EU .

Sri Lanka's Ambassador Dayan Jayatilleka tells UK, France, to submit their own past military conduct to international inquiry.

Link.

Our diplomats have upped their game in this crucial and decisive moment. Hats off to them for the excellent work done so far, to mitigate the International pressure...

They should never let their guards down...always have to be look out for the sinister activities being planned by the peelam diaspora...

Asithri said...

DW, one of the best articles from you mate... Par-Excellence as we say in the business...

OaO Asithri

CASC said...

Aussies in for long haul as Sri Lanka stands firm
Amanda Hodge, South Asia correspondent | June 06, 2009

Article from: The Australian
THREE Australian nationals caught in Sri Lanka's overcrowded refugee camps could face more than a year in detention after the Government in Colombo yesterday ruled out any special treatment or early release.

The Australian high commission in Sri Lanka said yesterday it was trying to gain consular access to the three people, who are believed to be dual Sri Lankan/Australian nationals.

It refused to reveal further details of the detainees, whose plight emerged after the defeat of the Tamil Tigers last month unleashed a flood of refugees.
The Weekend Australian understands Australian authorities were alerted to the trio's predicament after one got hold of a mobile phone - which are banned inside refugee camps - and contacted a family member in Australia.

Sri Lanka's Foreign Secretary and former diplomat to Australia, Palitha Kohona, said the three would undergo screening, along with an estimated 280,000 Tamils forcibly interned in government camps.

We can't start a two-track process that gives preference to foreign nationals," Dr Kohona said. "We will have to interview these people, cross-check their status, check with the local police stations. The question arises as to why these people waited until the last minute to come out of the LTTE-controlled (Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam) areas.

"Were they being held back by force or were they staying voluntarily because they had their own sympathies? Why would they be going into a place like that unless they had compelling reason."

The Sri Lankan Government says it will try to complete registration and security screening of refugees within 180 days so detainees can return to their communities. But it admits the task of weeding out former Tamil Tiger soldiers and sympathisers from civilians could take far longer.

Sniper said...

UN human rights office will not be allowed:Mahinda Samarasinghe.

Speaking to the media in Colombo, Sri Lanka yesterday (June 05), Mr. Samarasinghe said he had also told commissioner Navi Pillai that she should first consult Sri Lanka before making any recommendations on the island.

Link.

Nazi Pillay getting hammered from all diplomats...

even the Indian ambassador has joined in for the bashing now...

It would be extremely unfortunate, if the inter-governmental decisions adopted by the human rights council, were to be ignored or set aside, and the High Commissioner and/or her office were to misinterpret them or willfully neglect them, or supersede them according to their convenience or in accordance with the agenda of some states, or unrepresentative or unaccountable organizations, or to pursue their own agenda.

TropicalStorm said...

Some of these long-range analysts seem to forget that the next step is the most important in the long journey.

Sri Lanka currently ranks the "world's most combat ready nation" a standard we can maintain with ease, based on the training and experience we now possess.

That's a defesive capability no other nation should or would take lightly.

Highlander said...

Peter,

asithri the gon namba, kulappu haraka steaming and coming at you.

Get a shelter for few minutes.

He is like soda bottle, afetr five minutes you can come off, mate.

kaatikuddupaan said...

Honestly I find Sinhalese to be much better people than my own.

In fact once I was on a recce job on army camps in manal'aaru and there was pre dawn attack on army route clearing patrol. The soldiers actually helped me, gave me food and put me on a truck to destination I wanted to go.

However being born a Tamil, I have to stick with my people and our bithright which is the northeast.

In these areas we must be in charge

Colombo, Galle and hill areas are neutral zones where we and Sinhala can co exist.

Today, we may say oh one nation, one people e.t.c but this is just a dream. It was never like that and can never will be.

Highlander said...

Asithri the whoredog has only smoke no sound at all.

Just a goo bharia, nothing else.

Asithri said...

Peter Sakkiliya…

[Good thing people aren't 'forgetting' parcels on buses]

How true!

And it is also good that these days young-female LTTE IDPs aren’t going missing from the IDP camps too much uh? Damn those restless IDPs…they have a tendency to run away by creeping under the barbed wire and even hiding in NGO vans! ha ha ha …. “parcels on buses” and young female IDPs missing from camps? How fucking despicable! Both should not happen in my honorable view (which I conceded does come out “now and then”)…ha ha ha…

Screams in the Vanni jungle at wee hours…man, they are awful I hear…and funnily, such screams I am told are heard far from the IDP camps by some villagers these days… not when “parcels are left in busses” but when “boys” misbehave in other ways…such as even including “misbehaving” abroad I am told by attacking Buddhist temples…after all, this is a Global Village we live in and “what goes around should comes around” uh?

Now where did that bloody parcel disappear to! How the fcuk do I know…I am only the piano player… ha ha ha….

OaO Asithri

priyashantha said...

Dear W-Pala,

Appreciate your civilised answer.

Please check the year of detail statistics. It is 2002 published in 2006. It is 7 years ago. Given the improvement from 1987 to 2002, 7 years makes a big difference.

Look at the table in your link. The Tamil speakers ranger from 8% to 19%.

Isn't it good?

I agree that we need to improve but comparing 26% against 8.3% is wrong today. Tamil only speakers are very lower than 26% and Tamil speaking public servants are more than 8% to 19% now.

Why can't you accept that you are wrong? Is it becuase of old age? I have accepted when I was wrong.

priyashantha said...

Back Ache (Puke Amaruwa),

Thoge vesa Anushka patta huthtigen ahapang kawda whoredog kiyala.

Ekige leli gahapu huththa pennawi.

Incest dad.

Sam Perera said...

kattipukkkaan or whosoever,

Little terrorist like you have a birth right. Your Thalaivar and juniors got their birth right to rest in a cesspit in Eelam recently. Unfortunately nobody knows in which cesspit Thalaivar is resting.

priyashantha said...

Asithri,

I like the younger one. Eki elama gona.

Pannipitiye patta weshi.

Paw. Ape Rana maha avalamek. Thuk sakkiliya. Incest dad.

Asithri said...

PriyaS

[I like the younger one. Eki elama gona]

Brother, I like the elder one...who has been fingered/fisted by her Rana dad...that way my baseball bat has no "inhibitions" ...if you know what I mean....ela kiri....ha ha ha...

:)) :)) :))

OaO Asithri

Highlander said...

pee shantha, asithri,

"DEKATA NEVILA LEVAKAAPAN PUKA"

YOUR TIME IS UP PAKO, IT IS KAKAPOTH, NAHUTHE, SUMMA DONE AMD DUSTED.

Charitable Sceptic said...

What a waste.

Asithri said...

Hey Rana aka Black Adder

Seriously, how old is the older girl...?

Is she still going into mensus every two weeks due to non-stop penetrations by whoring?...like when she met me and did me in Melbourne for Aussie $40?

ha ha ha...

OaO Asithri

de Vil said...

Like my sweetheart?

http://www.facebook.com/people/Akila-Weerasekera/163903591

wijayapala said...

Kaatikuddupaan,

"Honestly I find Sinhalese to be much better people than my own."

We have our fair share of Dumb-Arses too.

From my perspective there aren't many differences between most Tamils and Sinhalese who live in Sri Lanka. The language and to an extent religion is different but the same basically harmless mentality is there.

Now that I think about it, outside of Sri Lanka the "defense enthusiast" Sinhalese and the "Eelamoid" Tamils also have a lot in common too!

wijayapala said...

"Appreciate your civilised answer.

"Thoge vesa Anushka patta huthtigen ahapang kawda whoredog kiyala.
"

Thus speaks priyashantha, the expert on "civilized" discussion.

Sniper said...

The 13th Amendment to the Constitution was not practicable,

outgoing Chief Justice Sarath Nanda Silva told the media at the Ministry of Justice yesterday.

Link.

DorineJ said...

Sorry guys…

As much as I hate to admit it, yes what these fuckers Asithri and Priyashantha tell here is true…I am Rana (“black adder” today, but I have many other avatars here)….and I have admitted in this blog that I did have sex with my adult daughters…it was all consensual…see, I am 65 now and I grew up in an era where it was cool to have sex with you daughters…so, I am not ashamed to admit it…fuck you Asithri and Priyashatha….fuck you all Mahinda Chintanaya fuckers…see what you have done to me now…I am a broken man…

Asithri said...

Holy F...

There he goes again...admitting to it all!

This is getting to be a routine here...

This "rana" pro-LTTE Tamil shitbag comes here with a new handle...then he fights with patriots like Sam, OaOA, PriyaS, etc. and then he has this crash where he crumbles and admits to incest!

I am truly disgusted over this sick monster...

:(( :(( :((

OaO Asithri

Sam Perera said...

"Rana said...

Sorry guys…

As much as I hate to admit it, yes what these fuckers Asithri and Priyashantha tell here is true…I am Rana (“black adder” today, but I have many other avatars here)….and I have admitted in this blog that I did have sex with my adult daughters…it was all consensual…see, I am 65 now and I grew up in an era where it was cool to have sex with you daughters…so, I am not ashamed to admit it…fuck you Asithri and Priyashatha….fuck you all Mahinda Chintanaya fuckers…see what you have done to me now…I am a broken man…"

Rana aka Black Adder, you need lots of help. Perhaps it is not good in this old age.

Unknown said...

Sudan permenent rep to UN,answer given by him to the ICC judges regarding his Presidents indicment was fantastic.

Way to go developing world countries.

Thundering typhoons,

Karambaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa,

Guys,

What happened to the decency in this blog?????

Thusitha said...

Gotymbara said...
Sudan permenent rep to UN,answer given by him to the ICC judges regarding his Presidents indicment was fantastic.

----------------------
Gotymbara Do you have a link?

priyashantha said...

Wandurupala,

I was talking to you.

Why drag the dirty conversation Rana started?

Looks to me you are also in Rana's incest club.

Thuk! Nodokin sakkili.

velluprabhakaran said...

peter is traumatised by vesapillai's nude porn photos.(by SLA). that's why he's so upset. looks as if sundog was killed nude while making a porn movie in the muddy waters of nandikadal lagoon. photos show mud all over including his balls. ha ha ha!

permanent sinhala & muslim settlements in the north will settle the tamil grievances permanently.

if tamils can live in colombo why can't other communities live in the north? a hell of a how do u do!

tamils can stay in the IDP's while sinhala & muslims settle down in the north comfortably in their own free time. ha ha ha!

Unknown said...

i have seent a good article about trekking in sri Lanka.
If any of you serious about trekking, contact Exprores Club in Pera university and join with them.
There is a schedule for whole year and usaually they trekking al most all peaks in SL.

I had the opetunity to trek 5 peaks including hantana, dolos bage and hunnas giriya.
It was a once in life-time opertunity.

MyPhotoGenie said...

Defence Column said...

"My dear fellow patriots and friends. Pls take a little bit of your time to read my small note."

I wish you the very best and a happy married life.

"Thank you to all who visited Defence Column"

No, thank you for doing a great job with defence column.

MyPhotoGenie said...
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MyPhotoGenie said...

2 must articles by Top Lanka News


This one is about the terrorist supporter Jan Janannayagam

This article is about language issue and why all Sri Lankans should not learn Tamil.

Sujeewa Kokawala said...
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Sujeewa Kokawala said...

Peter the Queen's English Butt;

Do you think that we will call you "Peter Master" when you start teaching English?

And do you think that "RRRambaDDa-paTTaaRRR" accent of yours [as coined by my white friends who have seen your endless roadblock entertainment] predate queen's?

Be proud for being a tamil, although you shit on the pride of that race. But do not lick the white boot here.

Anyway here is a nice lesson on Proper English tailor-made by Oxford for you.

The last two words were specially added on my request as a greeting to you.

Keep on showing your despair and alienation. You're just the right bite that we waited for victory celebrations.

Unknown said...

Thusitha,

I saw it on Aljazeera and BBC. But only one time and removed. No more.You should hear it the way he said. Real fucking slap on ICC bastards.

But i found a link down.

http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=15n9rjmib/M=650008.13009197.13307103.1919855-/*http://news.yahoo.com

Karambaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

MayilRavana මයිල් රාවන said...

Asthiri and Priyashantha,

OK I'm back from winning South Asian Hearts and Minds.

Paaki nakea Bel Theare

පාකි නකේ බෙල් තේරෙ

heh heh heh

Unknown said...

Guys,

http://www.dailymirror.lk/DM_BLOG/Sections/frmNewsDetailView.aspx?ARTID=51145

Thundering typhoons.

Moshe Dyan said...

mayil & sam,

great write ups.

i particularly love that calculation. the kandyan kingdom defeated world's most ruthless imperialists.

we should not follow the WW2 russian form of military build-up. that is disastrous. we need a proactive approach like the kandyan kings.

Moshe Dyan said...

TTBO,

cheers.

Moshe Dyan said...

ASS has spoken again!! he is a real ASSCLOWN.

doesn't he know that LTTE had terrorists 7 years old???

he knows that very well and that is why he wants the identity card things scrapped!!

i don't know why he still writes letters to the prez. he can rather write to ME!!!! at least the old ASS will get a response!!

lol!!

Sujeewa Kokawala said...

Moshe,

Re: ASS and K-nidi

Why writing letters and telegrams? Of all the things these two loosers know the above two methods of communication.

They can meet the corresponding parties, call them, email them, etc etc. Two discards are constantly writing letters. Maybe they like to give extra work for postal departments.

I guess they never had a chance to write love-letters to gals in their time. Sick and pathetic

Moshe Dyan said...

Dear Mr President,

I read with disgust and displeasure the request by V Ananda Sangari. It is a known fact that LTTE used child soldiers as young as 7 years old. Issuing an identity card to every person over 10 years of age will force the authorities to accounts for them all against Tamil Elamists' attempts to use them for their evil and racist ends.

It is really unfortunate that some veteran politicinas are still running after racism for political power refusing to join hands with national peaceloving political fronts.

Your excellency must consider the hidden racist agenda of old Tamil Elamists who are too fragile to carry guns and bombs for Tamil Elam but very much Tamil Elamists.

Please don't interfere with the far-sighted defence plan of issuing proper identity for everyone over 10 years. It doesn't cost them anything. It is for their own good.

Next time before entertaining the demands of politicians of shabby pasts, please consider where they stand in the process of Northern development according to your very insightful political plan. They are either in or they are out. Treat them that way.

May God Bless You.

cc: mod
cc: secdef

Moshe Dyan said...

third eye,

exactly!!

lol!

come to think of it, it applies to me as well now!!!

ok. in my defence....

SMS goes as letters and TF i have written "letters" and therefore i'm not in their club.

Moshe Dyan said...

srilankan,

good article.

thanks.

Moshe Dyan said...

i find it kind of funny why sri lankans should learn 3 languages.

this is a joke.

if a sinhalese and a tamil meet, will they communicate in 3 languages???

NO WAY. they only need one fcuking language to communicate.

hilarious!

GOSL should stop this crap. teach everyone english (as many as possible). and teach tamils sinhala. only less than 10% of the population cannot speak sinhala. this % is falling down VERY fast. no one needs to learn excellent sinhala. VERY basic sinhala that help them interact with the sinhalas is enough. MOST companies use english. govt and other entities in tamil areas can use tamil 100%. in other areas tamils can learn sinhala. what's the fuss??

there should not be any inferiority/superiority about it.

it is NOT about superiority. no language is superior to another. it is PRACTICALITY and DO-ABILITY.

if the majority SLs were tamil speaking, it is easier for OTHERS to learn tamil than everyon learn an additional langiage.

if my friend caught swine flu, why should i try and catch avian flu???? instead, i can help him recover.


idiotic thinking by the old communists.

Moshe Dyan said...

also encouraging sinhalas to learn tamil is good. some ppl are good with languages.

lalith athulathmudali could speak in 5 (????) languages.

CBK could speak in 4 (????) languages.

but MOST great men/women could not speak so many languages!!!!
mahathma gandhi -
abraham lincoln -
churchil -
martin luther king -
lord buddha -
jesus christ -
prophet mohammad -
hindu saints -

the problem is NOT about language. it is about tamil elam.

the language BS came in 1956. but the illankai thamil arse kachchi (tamil nation party) was formed in 1949!!!

some lunatics put the cart before the ASS!!!

Suren said...

Moshe Dyan said;
GOSL should stop this crap. teach everyone english (as many as possible). and teach tamils sinhala.

Perfect .This is what I said also before ;the link language between communities SHOULD BE Sinhala.
Any other measure we are just fooling ourselves and leading to similar future unrest;we should get every one's mentality right at this juncture and our leaders should take measures without fear rather than age old rhetoric.

Unknown said...

Patriots and Hanumans,

Read this article.

http://www.adaderana.lk/news.php?nid=3651


Blistering barnacles,

You hanumans/lttp trying to claim about imaginery tamil homeland excist in SL.

Haaaaah. Karambaaaaaaaaaaaaa

Unknown said...

It is time that Sri Lankan civil society returned to normal . These attacks on the press has to stop .

We did not fight a terrorist, fascist outfit to end up like them . If the jurnos are doing something treasonable they should be hauled before court assaulting them and giving them white van rides is not the way to go about rebuilding a civil society .

wijayapala said...

" It is a known fact that LTTE used child soldiers as young as 7 years old."

It seems that Mushe is the real "ASS-CLOWN" here. The youngest LTTE fighter was about 12 years old, and the median age was approximately 15.

Below the age of 10, child soldiers simply lack the strength to carry weapons and supplies for a conventional war. Mushe the ranking "defense enthusiast" should know this.

wijayapala said...

Interesting article on the Eastern Province in the early 1980s from SLA perspective:

House of God-Kalmunai 1981

Charitable Sceptic said...

"We did not fight a terrorist, fascist outfit to end up like them"

Ali,

That is the sentiment of nearly everyone I know.

But I also know that it is wishful thinking to go from LTTE's "total war" to regular peace time in weeks or months.

Healing will take years, but we should do everything to make it come sooner.

We already know that just a few nutjobs can create chaos in a short time, but takes much longer to get things back to normal.

That happens in blogs too. wink wink. ;)

Also don't forget that there seems to be many more players in the game than just LTTE and the Government.

Not everything that happens has to have approval or sanction.

Realistically we don't know who did what, but it is definitely bad for the government, whoever is in power. Since UNP is out of the game for a while they have all the incentives to go in to 'total-opposition' mode.

Also, I don't think journalists can expect to work for special interests and be respected as neutral observers.

That is why we need good guys in journalism to expose the bad guys.

wijayapala said...

Sri Lankan,

"This article is about language issue and why all Sri Lankans should not learn Tamil."

Thank you for sharing this bit of total rubbish with us. It is important to identify the idiotic strands of thinking within our community, so they can be challenged in the open and ultimately rejected.

*IF* the "defense enthusiasts" are correct and we will need a 300,000-man SLA to defend the island against fearsome Tamil civilians for infinite time span, then doesn't it behoove us to learn the language of our security threat so that we will not be intelligence-blind when the next war starts??????? Edwin Perera seems to believe that we should be ignorant- let the Tamils learn Sinhalese, so that they can learn more about us than we can learn about them!

We had English as a link language, and it didn't prevent this tragic and utterly destructive war from beginning. Some of the most racist Sinhalese and Tamils are English-speakers. When you learn someone else's language, you are able to identify with them more and understand their thought processes. Also it is an invaluable means to gain their trust.

Contrary to what Edwin Perera claims, the Sinhalese in ancient times had a far more versatile language capability than modern Sinhalese who tend towards monolingualism with maybe some English words. Buddhist monks in ancient times used to boast of their ability to preach bana in Tamil. We have come a long way down from what we were in the past, and it will take smarter minds to bring us up again.

Perera's last sentence was perhaps the most moronic. We do not have a king but an elected President whose authority is derived from the support of the people. It is most certainly the people who make the "king" not the other way around in a democracy.

wijayapala said...

Tropicalstorm,

"That's a defesive capability no other nation should or would take lightly."

One problem- which country is currently or even in the near future thinking about invading let alone occupying Sri Lanka??

Charitable Sceptic said...

"Some of the most racist Sinhalese and Tamils are English-speakers."

True.

And how about the hybrids like Brian Seneviratne?

Unknown said...

Agree with you CS .. my guess is a lot of these attacks are probably be by independent thugs and cowards who have no sanction . There may be some cases of some level of sanction too . Just hope that the days of peace will arrive sooner than later . I know it may be too much to hope in the near term .

Sujeewa Kokawala said...

Sleeping myth wakes up. I feel so uneasy these days. Myth is surrounding me. Too many of them.

Read this crap about the epic bridge.



Most critical points that I hate this article for.

- Providing proof that there have been humans in this region long before homosapiens. This is teh Homo Dravidian and Kumari Kandam crap. The root myth of Eelam homo-land.

- Proving that hindu religious story of Rama is true, hence providing petrol for fanatic fire of hindusm [lucky BJP lost].

- Steaming the dried out Indian mentality that SL was a part of them and hence India should interfere more.

- Misleading science.

- Denial of sanity and intellectual well being of majority of Sri Lankans.

Let me paste it here and contradict. This is blood boiling journalism.

>> As NASA cameras pored over the now defunct No-Fire-Zone, it only detected Sri Lanka’s armed forces extending their arms of friendship to their northern brethren.It was of no avail to many cynical rumour mongers.

Only possible truth in whole article.



>> However, NASA cameras came out with a rare breakthrough. It revealed a mysterious ancient bridge in the Palk Strait between India and Sri Lanka. The bridge, made up of a chain of shoals, is currently named as Adam’s Bridge and nearly 30 km in extent.

Can you refer to original NASA articles suggesting that this is a bridge. There are so many places with similar natural formations.



>> The bridge may be man made, archeologists guess.

WHICH archeologist? Probably Indian. It is like Catholic church proving that Adam existed as Jesus mentioned about him, and of course Jesus is son of GOD so he can't lie.

To my knowledge this is NOT proven at all. Simply prejudged by Indians.



>> For one thing, they say, it’s the bridge’s unique curvature.

Most natural formations have smooth curvature. I don't see anything so Engineering about it other than the smoothness. And SAT images are not the best to find a curvature.



>> And, for another, it’s the age. The legends go as far as few thousand years, while archeological studies suggest that the first signs of human inhabitants in Sri Lanka date back to the primitive age, about 1,750,000 years ago.

Probably these "humans" are the oldest ever, at least 10 times older than the next known human. Come on chaps, you are talking about Homo Irectus. They are NOT human.

At Balangoda/Bulathsinhala ~125000 yr old humonid evidence can be found, and some say it is one of Asia's oldest.

Alas India and SL separated from one another as recently as 15k yrs. I dunno its complete geo-history, so it may have been separated long in the past.



>> This essentially calls for an insight into Ramayana, which was Tredha Yuga, an era that goes as far back as 1,700,000 along the timeline.

How come Wall-mickie [biththi meeya] knew it but we don't know. How the F did 3000yrs ago they knew exactly what happened in 1.7mill yrs ago. You mean the legend made its way from [1.7mill - 3000] yrs to be lost in past three millenia. Bull shit.



Contd...

Sujeewa Kokawala said...

Continuing from previous post...

>> Ramayana, an epic in which Rama and Seetha play as protagonists, mentions about a similar bridge between Rameshwaram and the northern shores of Sri Lanka. Even though this information may not be of much importance to archeologists, it will be of immense interest to ethnic communities praying for peace and reconciliation.

If this was a carrot thrown to SL tamils well it never made the purpose.



>> How did Ramayana, an epic written by Valmiki over 5000 years ago, know the existence of the bridge? Many wonder.

3000yrs right? Who wouldn't wonder. Well, the bridge cannont be any different to its shape today if it was built 1.7 mill crap yrs ago. Let's say it was 5-10000 yrs instead. In such scenario he may have had better evidence than us.

But why should it be true? Can't ancient people write fiction? And does that mean they were mere reporters with no imagination?



>> Rama and Seetha are simply household names in Sri Lanka where there are many places closely associated with Ramayana, the sensational legend of Rama and Seetha, the much loved Indian Princess. The abduction of Seetha by Ravana, the king of Lanka, is a well loved story in Sri Lanka’s folklore.

You mean in India. Some SL ppl like Ravana, but I never met any non-hindu SL ppl who love Rama. For us he's another Rajiv Gandhi, a Kalinga maaga or Raja Raja. That is if we believe in the fiction.



>> When NASA cameras reported the mysterious bridge, many Sri Lankans might have gone back to their childhood with the memories Rama, Seetha and, not to forget Hanuman, who made the bridge using massive boulders carried by himself.

Childhood jokes you mean. Do not insult our intellectual status. And do not give points to Indians. Do not believe in Rama Ravana or any other [it's a fiction] but if you do, stay as close as to Ravana. You are doing a great betrayal.



>> (Govt. Information Department)

Fuck.

Charitable Sceptic said...

"which country is currently or even in the near future thinking about invading let alone occupying Sri Lanka??"

Sorry to butt in, but that is not a good argument for this century.

Asymmetric warfare.

Sri Lanka needs a military not to fight and win over an invader, but to prevent hostiles from thinking about a fight in the first place.

We don't have to divert funds from development to have an army if we become smart about using the military.

A side benefit would be the discipline that comes from serving in the military, which will help to create good role models to counter the 'discipline' problem we have in the country.

Can you imagine any other group that doesn't go on strike at the drop of a hat?

We don't need a military to educate people about respect and discipline, but that is a shortcut we may have to take for now.

Nearly all economic powers have a strong military industrial machinery that acts as the backbone for their economic activity.

Reasonably Treasonable said...

wijayapala,

“Then you acknowledge that 1) the end of the farcical CFA was inevitable and 2) the govt's decisive end to the war has removed the major obstacle to lasting peace.”

I consider a lasting peace as not simply the absence of war, but the absence of tyranny, since so long as tyranny exists, there will be a tendency towards resumption of conflict (this is why I believe peace was impossible without the LTTE, as it is a tyrannical organisation). The absence of war can be guaranteed in the short term in almost any setting by a massive and ruthless show of force, but this is at the expense of freedom from tyranny.

The problem with the govt’s “decisive end”, as you call it, is that it has immeasurably strengthened the power of the SLDF, which, alongside the TMVP and other paramilitaries, will be the guarantors of tyranny in the N-E (and possibly the South, if it comes to that). Far from being scaled down after the fighting, the SLDF is set to grow. And if you think that Tamils in the N-E will now at least be able to have a say in their future, through the ballot box, you would do well to consider what UTHR said about elections in the East:

“One of this Government’s satirical boasts is that it has brought democracy to the East by holding elections in the de-merged province on 10th May 2008…The Government machinery pushed for Pillayan of the TMVP as its chief minister for the East. Allowing a free vote was too unpredictable for the Government.the presidential sibling Basil bullied and arm-twisted, without leaving any stone unturned, to exclude the possibility of a credible alternative leadership.…In Batticalaoa District itself, the TMVP, with the security forces turning a blind eye, resorted to targeted intimidation against supporters of opposition parties, including the Tamil alliance”.

Sounds pretty darn similar to the LTTE to me, especially the bit about excluding credible alternatives, and using intimidation against opponents - and straight from the mouth of esteemed UTHR, too. Yes it is true that SL governments change – but if the N-E is effectively disenfranchised in this way (i.e. votes don’t really change the result), the prospect for change becomes entirely contingent on the South, where the ballot is admittedly less of a travesty. But the people in the South are very unlikely to vote based on whatever nasty things are happening in the N-E, for many reasons, not least because they probably won’t know about those things (free media in SL is dying). But also because any govt tyranny in the N-E won’t have any impact on life in the South.

The tipping point would be if govt tyranny is imposed on the South. But if that happens, the people will have a lot harder fight compared to prior to Eelam War IV, especially if Fonseka gets his extra 100 000+ SLA.

I mean, looking at the state of SL today, do you seriously doubt that if a popular anti-govt political group (not Eelamist, not pro-LTTE, just a grass roots anti-SLA occupation and pro-democracy group) were to rise in the N-E, the govt would not hestitate to use the SLA and secret police to crush it in its wake? And do you seriously doubt that the teeth of this govt killing machine has been sharpened by this last phase of the war?

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Reasonably Treasonable said...

wijaypala,

(cont)

“How else would you explain the govt doing absolutely nothing while the LTTE was racking up CFA violations literally by the thousands for such a long time. Or why Mahinda did not declare the end of the CFA until Jan 2008.”

Most of the LTTE’s violations in the first 3 years of the CFA were related to forced recruitment, and attacks on rival Tamil groups - not attacks on SLA personnel. Since child recruitment and attacks on dissidents had very little impact on the govt’s electoral prospects, there was no real reason for the govt to do anything – in fact, attacking the Tigers (as you might have argued for) would have probably diminished their political prospects, as they would have been seen as sliding the country back into war for flimsy reasons. The CFA really began to unravel after elements of the SLA started to support Karuna in the East (from UTHR: “The State while formally agreeing to Norway’s wishes could not resist winking at sections of the security apparatus covertly supporting Karuna” - http://www.uthr.org/bulletins/bul39.htm#Intelligence).

Note that the LTTE had not in any systematic way countenanced direct attacks on SLDF personnel prior to this , and so, till that tipping point, they had not jeopardised the CFA in any real way (i.e. by playing into the hands of the Southern warmongers). Once the govt started to back Karuna, however, the rules of the game changed, because LTTE personnel were being killed.

“Could you please specify these "non-communalist forces" having a "progressive political outlook"???? Do they belong in the same category as Santa Claus and the Tooth Fairy?? If not, could you kindly explain where the hell they have been for all these decades????”

I may as well ask where the progressive forces among Mahinda’s cabal are, since you are praying that these clowns will bring human rights and democracy to the N-E!

The absence of a large Left alternative in SL today, is precisely because otherwise sensible people like you have, over the decades, repeatedly thrown your lot in with reactionaries like Mahinda instead of backing a principled political movement, which supports the things you believe in (you even state that you are “no fan of Mahinda and his lack of an overall vision”). This is opportunistic politics, and explains the treachery of the LSSP (SL’s best chance at a left alternative) in the 70s when it joined the SLFP coalition.

“Let me get it straight- you're equating the shrieking of the JHU/JVP to the **continued child recruitment, murder of Tamil dissidents, and blatant assaults on the security forces by the LTTE** ("you're getting a little 'reckless' here Velu, don't you think?")????????”

Child recruitment and murdering Tamil dissidents (excepting senior gov figures like Kadirgamar) didn’t push the country back into war, because it didn’t have much impact on Southern electoral politics. At the end of 2002, the SLMM was singing the praises of the CFA, and the general mood in the country was that peace was returning – despite abductions and child recruitment. By the 3rd anniversary of the CFA in 2005, there had even been no major clashes between the signatories’ military forces.

I agree that LTTE assaults on the security forces did compromise the CFA significantly, but that didn’t start happening till after the govt started backing Karuna. Why do you think it didn’t happen till then?

Reasonably Treasonable said...

wijayapala,

(cont)

“Nope, it's a fact. The end of the LTTE was very much quickened by the deaths of Theepan and others in early April. In fact, the deaths of Prabhakaran and the others are the basis for my argument with the "defense enthusiasts" here that there will never be a resurrection of the LTTE in any of our lifetimes.”

It was quickened in April because something like 600 Tigers were killed, not because any single leader was taken out by a LRRPer without regard for the civilians nearby (the point I was contending). Anyway, let’s leave it at that – you think it’s okay to target rebel leaders even when civilian collateral is 100% guaranteed, and I don’t.

“However, you're not providing much of an alternative if you think that the solution should have been to disband the SLA.”

Why not? If the SLA was out of the equation, the LTTE would lose its justification for oppression.

“Going by your logic, the Tamils should have sided with the IPKF when the LTTE brazenly started Eelam War 1.5….The SLMM itself noted that the govt's CFA violations paled to the LTTE's in more recent times. Perhaps that would explain why the Tamils were not so eager to save the LTTE from destruction, much unlike IPKF times. At the same time, they still lacked the ability to stand up to the LTTE.””

It would take a large show of opposition by Tamils, probably across the whole N-E, to put down the LTTE. It would probably involve growing dissatisfaction not just amongst civilians, but cadre also. It is true that such things can sometimes happen fairly spontaneously (as in E. Europe – and lets remember that the foe faced in E. Europe was much more powerful than the LTTE) – and maybe this would have happened in the N-E at some point. But more often a movement is required, and this takes time to develop. By the time that could’ve happened in the 80s after the LTTE attacked IPKF, the IPKF was slaughtering Tamil civilians, and so anti-LTTE opposition was again silenced (I personally would not have wanted to join hands with the IPKF at that point). The factor of time also partly explains why Tamils didn’t stand up to the LTTE in large numbers during the CFA or in the last year – but so too does fear of the SLA, malnutrition, and fatigue. All these factors would be lessened with the SLA out of the picture, and some kind of ceasefire in place. It didn’t happen with the last ceasefire, because it didn’t last long enough – though you did see growing dissatisfaction with the LTTE, which are the seeds of revolt.

“There is quite a bit of history that disproves this, and you need look no further than colonial history.”

For most of colonial history, even the average European’s dignity was trodden over. The era of revolution started around 1850 in Europe and spread like wildfire since then, across the world, really. There aren’t many examples of dictatorships not eventually succumbing to popular revolution in the 20th and 21st centuries. Two counter-examples are North Korea and Cuba, but these have only survived with the backing of major powers (NK by China, and Cuba for most of its history by the USSR). Many places which have had democracy imposed from outside (e.g. Iraq) have ended up a mess, because the outside power’s continual meddling for its own interests. This is why I favour a home-grown solution to the problem of the N-E. Recall UTHR’s comment above about a free election in the East being too unpredictable.

Reasonably Treasonable said...

wijayapala,

“But what about the CFA period?? How come things didn't get better for the Tamils during that period?”

In what sense do you doubt things got better? I think people in the N-E preferred living under the CFA than under war conditions, because of the greater sense of basic security. I think that access to the region by aid agencies etc also improved, and material livelihood did too.

“Uhh... this is what I read in your link:”

It says this: “By mid-2007 about 1,500 people recruited as children remained in LTTE ranks, of whom over 300 were still below 18”, i.e. 300 children were still in the LTTE at that point. Regarding the Karuna group, it says “By September 2007 there were reports of about 400 children recruited by the Karuna group”. So at that time (the only period I could find statistics to compare the two), it seems that GOSL-backed Karuna had more children than the LTTE.

Incidentally, the statistics also show that LTTE child recruitment dropped over the period 2002-2007, which contradicts the argument that the LTTE was set on a warpath, and that it did not respond at all to international pressure.

Sniper said...

"LTTE" Tigers turned to Rats and looking for Rat holes.

Common joke nowadays in Tamil Nadu is that ‘puligal’ (Tigers—short for Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam) have been reduced to ‘eligal’ (Rats) because they (the LTTE) have to hide in holes in the ground to escape being hunted.

Dr. Subramanian Swamy.

Well I doubt it..because now even the rats are not afraid of Tigers!!!

Looks like Tigers around the world has gone bonkers!!!

hak hak...

Charitable Sceptic said...

"Incidentally, the statistics also show that LTTE child recruitment dropped over the period 2002-2007, which contradicts the argument that the LTTE was set on a warpath, and that it did not respond at all to international pressure."

Statistics.

How about LTTE around that time secretly going door to door everywhere promising to fight the 'Final War'?

So was that false advertising, eh?

Reasonably Treasonable said...

A small comment on the language issue.

I think all Sri Lankans should be trilingual, learning Sinhala, Tamil and English.

I think it'd be a good idea if English was the main medium of instruction in educational institutions, particularly primary school and high school (phased in over time, to cause minimal disruption). This would allow Tamil and Sinhala children to share classes, rather than have separate streams.

I have heard lots of horrible stories about racial abuse at schools, largely fuelled by the existence of separate Sinhala/Tamil streams.

Reasonably Treasonable said...

"How about LTTE around that time secretly going door to door everywhere promising to fight the 'Final War'?"

I'm more interested in actions than words.

Charitable Sceptic said...

Blogger Reasonably Treasonable said...

"I'm more interested in actions than words."

I think that is very reasonable, but not at all relevant in this case.

Since we are talking about LTTE, surely you are aware that 'actions' and 'words' were highly compartmentalized in the command structure?

Sam Perera said...

Tropical Storm,

"Tropicalstorm,

"That's a defesive capability no other nation should or would take lightly."

One problem- which country is currently or even in the near future thinking about invading let alone occupying Sri Lanka??"

This exactly is the problem our leaders and fake pundits had in the past. They seriously lacked the ability to see more than a couple of years. I have my full confidence that the current government led by our very own Gamini Abhaya and Gotabhaya will device a better plan to safeguard our nation without paying attention to dumb monkeys like Wandurupala.

Reasonably Treasonable said...

Charitable skeptic,

"Since we are talking about LTTE, surely you are aware that 'actions' and 'words' were highly compartmentalized in the command structure?"

I am not sure what you mean here. Could you clarify?

Suren said...

Sorry all patriots, I just can't stop appreciating Velu the sakiliya's good deeds.
Buddhism has taught me to give the due even to the worst enemy.While apologising to heroic kith & kin directly affected by this bastard's murderous acts I can't stop evaluating in my heart the good this sakili group has brought to our nation.We were just a sleeping nation always admiring & hailing other's victories & freedom fights and happy to be described as warm ,friendly people; because we had no opportunity to show off our prowess to the world. We had only to learn the heroics of good old age.
See now the whole nation is lifted; we are being talked & discussed about in the international stage of our military & battle strength and epitomised as a success story to the whole world! UN is talking of our triumphalism grudgingly.
Notwithstanding the military success we conjured up diplomatic victories in the international stage never before in the world.
Friendly countries far & wide, big & small lining up to support us, can you believe? We have become an important international player almost overnight; a few years ago folks outside our country did not even know where SL was! Thanks to sakili Velu (& thanks to sakili diaspora)President of America talk of Sri Lanka in a significant tone!! You can understand the importance of this elevation in the context when Bush became president he did not know where Pakistan was. Sri Lanka has come of age at last! Tell me who should I praise dear? Look at the diplomatic victories we have had head to head over Brown/Milliband/French /Swiss FMs etc. and standing firm against India, Canada, HR,NGO/INGOs etc no end.
Do not underestimate these events, standing up to these powerful nations & groups; these will run in our blood now for ever. Earlier I could remember once upon a time when a Canadian High Commissioner raised the voice over a trivial issue (as they did then) we succumbed to our knees;now we see laughingly upteemth time protests in their cities & their many a emissaries coming & going back empty handed ,one wonders is this the same warm friendly nation that was there not a long time ago.See how the attitude of the whole nation metamorphosed ; This is not one off phenomenon ; MR may go oneday but the nation now knows our status & would not tolerate any future leader to capitulate and will demand the best. Look at the reciprocal service we rendered to India by killing their most wanted and liberating their shores of arms & drug trafficking etc;they will be grateful to us and now would treat us as partners in the combat of crime and terrorism.
TN,Norway jokers not a whimp now, absolutely flabbergasted! Whole mentality of the nation has changed, Sri Lanka is giving the right rebuke wherever it matters without fear as a sovereign nation, a total transformation.
Can you believe this is the same SL that bowed to any advice that was foreign before. If sakili Velu did not achieve the dizzy heights as the most ruthless organisation with air force and navy capabilities, our triumph would not have raised even an eyebrow from the IC and the victory would have been just lukewarm for killing few bandits. No Velu was so benevolent to Sri Lanka, he wanted to give us as much credit as could be by his destruction by raising his capabilities to unparalleled heights before sinking, what a hurrah to SL. He brought all the diplomatic pressures on us raising our spirits & strength to gobsmack the world. Oh Velu without you what a sorry country we would have been, now only I understand.
to be ctd

Suren said...

ctd;
We've proven 96 world cup triumph was not a fluke, we have that genes when spurred can transform us to dizzy heights. Do not blame or discourage the diaspora, let them organise & parade more & more stand offs;these will only bring Sri Lanka more & more to the fore internationally;(these days I'm a bit deflated with no diaspora stunts). Israel has international status because of Gazza and why not we become one too fighting against a strong opponents always, that should only raise our bar. Mind you for a victory there has to be a war with some collateral damage but benefits vastly outweighs the losses here.
Look at the tar tamils painting upon themselves, a white colleague remarked after watching the line of human shield trudging through the swamp, that he understands now why Sinhalese look down upon tamils; no wonder stories that some Canadian diaspora washed off their hands after watching the look of their near & dear in the TV!
If there were no Elara we would not have discovered King Dutugamunu leading to subsequent prosperity of the country and Velu and diaspora have done the same to uplift modern Sri Lanka!
I'm humble to give credit where it deserves

Charitable Sceptic said...

Reasonably Treasonable said...

" "Since we are talking about LTTE, surely you are aware that 'actions' and 'words' were highly compartmentalized in the command structure?"
I am not sure what you mean here. Could you clarify? "

I am a little amused by your ignorance of LTTE's inner workings, since you seem to have watched LTTE quite closely (which thankfully I haven't had to do.)

Anyway, the only reason VP ended up dead with all his posse at the same time was that 'talking' and 'doing' was done by different people who had different takes on reality.

The boss was always able to alter reality according to his will, so this didn't matter to most of the fan base.

How many times did LTTE actually publicly own up to anything they have done?

Tamilnet will have a different opinion about LTTE's rhetoric and actions, but that shouldn't alter where that path led them.

wijayapala said...

Reasonably Treasonable,

"Far from being scaled down after the fighting, the SLDF is set to grow."

Here's the catch- how will Mahinda justify this growth in the long run *without a credible threat*??? Since you insist on comparing the current govt with the LTTE (which to a certain extent is valid), didn't you argue that the LTTE derived some legitimacy from the Tamils in that it was the only force which could protect them from the SLA??

So how will Mahinda justify to the public diverting resources from health and education and plunging further into debt to make expatriate "defense enthusiasts" happy- when he won't even have the same excuse that VP did?

"If the SLA was out of the equation, the LTTE would lose its justification for oppression."

If the SLA was out of the equation, there would be no CFA because the LTTE openly stated that the basis of the CFA was the "parity of forces" between the govt and the LTTE. The LTTE could have taken ***the entire island*** without the SLA to stand in the way!!! Brilliant reasoning, RT!

"The absence of a large Left alternative in SL today, is precisely because otherwise sensible people like you have, over the decades, repeatedly thrown your lot in with reactionaries like Mahinda instead of backing a principled political movement, which supports the things you believe in (you even state that you are “no fan of Mahinda and his lack of an overall vision”)."

You did not answer my question at all- what is this "principled political movement" that you're talking about???? I asked whether it belonged to the same category as Santa Claus and the Tooth Fairy because I have not ever come across it.

The only alternative to Mahinda politics was the utterly unprincipled, myopic, and ultimately discredited "peace lobby" which was dominant from 2002 until Nov 2005, as represented first by Ranil Wickremasinghe and later by P-TOMS Chandrika, and backed by the Colombo NGO circuit which itself is an appendage of western interests.

These were more or less the same groups whose silence on the LTTE's thousands of CFA violations was absolutely deafening, compared to the shrieking and howling they started after Mahinda got elected. No street protests when Kadirgamar or even K. Loganathan (one of their own!!!) were killed, no statements of protest while the LTTE was preparing for war- NOTHING.

You must have been referring to something else, right?

"The factor of time also partly explains why Tamils didn’t stand up to the LTTE in large numbers during the CFA or in the last year"

How much time was needed for the "progressive forces" to materialize- 100 years????

The Nov 05 election is probably the best case to demolish your notion that the Tamils could have stood up to the LTTE. The Tamils had a clear choice between pro-peace Ranil and Mahinda. I know from firsthand experience that the Tamils did not want open hostilities to resume, and all indications showed that they were ready to vote for Ranil.

Instead we saw the LTTE disenfranchise the Tamils with virtually no resistance (except for Vavuniya and the Eastern Province), leading to Mahinda's victory. The LTTE had become so powerful during the CFA- even after the Karuna rebellion- that Tamils in even govt-controlled areas were terrified of defying the LTTE.

wijayapala said...

"Most of the LTTE’s violations in the first 3 years of the CFA were related to forced recruitment, and attacks on rival Tamil groups - not attacks on SLA personnel."

You haven't explained why the govt did not revoke the CFA until Jan 2008- why even Mahinda kept the farce going for one and a half years.

"The CFA really began to unravel after elements of the SLA started to support Karuna in the East"

The CFA actually began to unravel much earlier when the LTTE presented the ISGA in Nov 2003, prompting Chandrika to retrieve some portfolios and leading to the dismissal of parliament the following year. It was really at that point that the CFA lost credibility in the South, and by default the political leaders who backed the CFA also lost credibility as well. Your belief that the CFA held credibility in the south until 2005 is utterly baseless.

Fascinating that you don't think that Karuna splitting from the LTTE was the far more fundamental blow to the CFA, which had taken the LTTE's monolithic facade as one of its fundamental bases. The CFA had absolutely no provisions to handle a schism within the LTTE. Karuna appealed to the Norwegians to mediate in the matter, but they washed their hands claiming that it was an internal matter.

When the LTTE began massacring Karuna's supporters, he had absolutely no choice but to turn to the SLA. Karuna revealed that the LTTE had been preparing for war during the length of the CFA- and the extent of child recruitment which you callously brush off as inconsequential to Southern politics (wrong!) proves this. Pro-LTTE analyst D. Sivaram hinted that the LTTE would not have an alternative to war, when he argued (quite accurately) that the South would never accept the ISGA. In this context, the SLA's tacit decision to shield Karuna was quite justified- as I said, the CFA had already begun to crumble.

“Uhh... this is what I read in your link:”

"It says this: “By mid-2007"

No, it says "As of September 2007 the total number of children known to have been recruited by the LTTE since ***January 2002 was well over six thousand, although the real number was thought to be much higher.***" This number proves without a shadow of a doubt that the LTTE was using the CFA to prepare for war.

"about 1,500 people recruited as children remained in LTTE ranks,"

Assuming that this number is accurate (and the UNHCR acknowledges that it may be low), the discrepancy is explained by Karuna's demobilization of most of his command in April 2004.

"It was quickened in April because something like 600 Tigers were killed, not because any single leader was taken out by a LRRPer without regard for the civilians nearby (the point I was contending)."

You clearly don't have a solid understanding of the role that LTTE leadership has played- as demonstrated by the current Eelamoids inability to revive the iyakkam. The LTTE lost its two key military leaders- Shankar and Balraj- after most of its victories in the 1990s. Their loss (along with Karuna's) goes a long way to explain why the LTTE did not do as well in recent fighting.

wijayapala said...

Charitable Sceptic,

"I am a little amused by your ignorance of LTTE's inner workings, since you seem to have watched LTTE quite closely"

I disagree- I haven't seen much from RT that demonstrates an understanding of the LTTE or what kind of threat it represented to the Tamils.

wijayapala said...

RT, let me try to sum up your arguments in a nutshell, and I hope you will correct anything I have misunderstood:

1) The most important thing the govt should have done was disbanding the SLA, since the Tamils would have no reason to fear the govt and therefore would hold the LTTE more accountable. It would be acceptable for the LTTE to become the dominant power in the island as a result of disbanding the SLA, since the Tamils would hold the LTTE in line.

2) Before disbanding, the SLA should have hunted down Karuna, taking casualties in the process, to hand him over to the LTTE for execution.

3) Child recruitment by the LTTE is acceptable because it didn't have a direct impact on the South. Absolutely not worth protesting. It should be left to the Tamils themselves to stop the LTTE from taking their children away from them, whether or not they have the means to do so.

4) Sinhalese people should be perfectly content to allow the LTTE to be the dominant power and sole armed force in Sri Lanka. Any dissent to this would be hard evidence of anti-Tamil genocidal racism.

4) Unspecified "progressive forces" would arise from the absence of the SLA and the LTTE's child recruitment, and the LTTE would presumably be delighted to see these forces come as a challenge. THe LTTE would engage these progressive forces in civilized debates out of fear of antagonizing the Tamils, and certainly would not knock them off as it has always done in the past.

Goolge said...

The ship:

Hope Captain ali is SECURELY quarantined. The last thing that needs to happen is for someone to destroy/damage it and blame on the government.

Peter said...

Lol @ number of comments about LTTE.

Is DW the only banda who sees the bigger game?

Glorious people of Bandastan, wake up: ball is in a different corner of the pitch.

Run, run, run! Let the wild goose chase begin.

Peter said...

Meanwhile, I plot.

No, not PLOTE. I am not a hand to mouth banda influenced Tamil to be mired in Marxist dogma.

http://www.sangam.org/2009/06/New_Leverage.php?uid=3550

KUSAPIRUNOTH ATHI said...

For those who are interested the following links gives council election results of the UK

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/shared/bsp/hi/elections/local_council/09/html/region_99999.stm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/shared/bsp/hi/elections/local_council/09/map/html/map.stm

This may be perhaps telling the story about Labour party's popularity in the UK today!

Sujeewa Kokawala said...

It was suspected that Ranil W had a secret treaty with LTTE. Ppl called this Ali-Koti givisuma.

Recently the DMI has found over-whelming evidence for the illusive treaty's existence, and the proof that Ranil W is in fact an LTTE supporter [didn't we know this?].

Following is what they found.

The name of Tiger support ship

Captain Ali -> evidence for Alikoti givisuma.

And Captain Ali is a tribute to Ranil W, whom, like the ship attempted, supported the LTTE with material and logistics throughout his tenure, and with propaganda and conspiracy then after. They named the ship after him [Captain of the Ali].

SriVikrama said...

Good article

The future of SriLanka depends on one hand , how 80% of the population living below poverty line will have their lives transformed and how well economic development will reach to uplift their living standards. On the other hand if MR , becomes a “Mugabe” swindles country with his cronies and the 80% go hungry every nights listening only to “war glories” then the we will have another uprising and the country will be doomed.

MR is trying to reach out to the Tamil community and keen to put the economy on track. A lot depends on him of course.... but also on us as to reconcile and support to him to make it a Motherland for all. Lets given him a chance.

SriVikrama said...

Good article

The future of SriLanka depends on one hand , how 80% of the population living below poverty line will have their lives transformed and how well economic development will reach to uplift their living standards. On the other hand if MR , becomes a “Mugabe” swindles country with his cronies and the 80% go hungry every nights listening only to “war glories” then the we will have another uprising and the country will be doomed.

MR is trying to reach out to the Tamil community and keen to put the economy on track. A lot depends on him of course.... but also on us to reconcile and support to him to make it a Motherland for all. Lets given him a chance.

hemantha said...

"The future of SriLanka depends on one hand , how 80% of the population living below poverty line"

This percentage is not correct. It is much less than that.

Peter said...

GDP per capita permanently breach US$ 5k -

Singapore: 1980
Malaysia: 1990
Thailand: 2000
Modaland: 2010?

I've set myself a challenge.

Sujeewa Kokawala said...

Sri Vikrama;

Stop day dreaming.

Ppl talk of theoretical possibilities which range from minus infinity to plus infinity.

May I borrow your arguments and ask you,

what if Obama becomes next Hitler, who uses his fame and sweeping vote base to organize America to kill all Muslims Chinese and Russians, and extend his totalitarian "Black-White American Reich" all over the globe?


Why won't it happen? How would you reason against me?

- Because Obama has been a good guy so far?

Well so was Mahinda.

- Because circumstances of Germany in 30s differ from America today?

Well circumstances of Zimbabwe differ so much from SL.

- Because People of America are not as stupid as people of Germany?

Same theory applies to SL and Zimbabwe.

- Because American system does not allow a Hitler?

Equally SL system does not allow a Mugabe.

Stop blackmailing using your day dreams. Keep them to yourself. Maybe write in your private diary and hide it in the basement dungeon.

Sujeewa Kokawala said...

[[ Peter said...

GDP per capita permanently breach US$ 5k -

Singapore: 1980
Malaysia: 1990
Thailand: 2000
Modaland: 2010?

I've set myself a challenge.]]

What is your challenge Peter?

To stop peeing in your pants, if SL reaches 5000USD per capita GDP permanently??

What else can you do? Stop it? Or support it? You're just an insignificant tiger mourner.

BTW it is unbelievable that you don't understand that per capita GDP is least effective into everyday life and it is another fake and stupid measure, just like those used by your sub-contractors of HRW, Amnesty and Navi Pillai.

In any case, it is good if you stop peeing in pants for whatever reason.

Pundeyeelam said...

Guys, any NEWS about that bitch who was cotesting for EU Elections? any links?

Charitable Sceptic said...

Third Eye,

SriVikrama also said,

"MR is trying to reach out to the Tamil community and keen to put the economy on track. A lot depends on him of course.... but also on us to reconcile and support to him to make it a Motherland for all. Lets given him a chance."

A lot of people are sitting on the fence right now.

They need us.

We need them.

Asithri said...

Some imbecile fcuker says:

[Meanwhile, I plot]

plot? what fcuking plot?

ha ha ha...

I was told "they" don't need to "plot" anymore in SL...as they have 10,000 to choose from...

ha ha ha...it is Thanks Giving for a bountiful harvest...came early this year...in May instead of in Oct!

:)) :)) :))

OaO Asithri

Asithri said...

PundeyEeelam

[Guys, any NEWS about that bitch who was cotesting for EU Elections? any links?]

Not really as who cares about a whore-bitch anyway...but here is a link to an Indian site where I saw this bitch being highlighted and had to make a few comments myself:


http://www.expressbuzz.com/edition/story.aspx?Title=Janani,+the+new+Tamil+icon&artid=rsiD7osmBiY=&SectionID=oHSKVfNWYm0=&MainSectionID=oHSKVfNWYm0=&SectionName=VfE7I/Vl8os=&SEO=

At least the bitch looks good enough for a gang-bang...the type that enjoys triple-penetrations I see...

LMSSAO!!! Truly LMSSAO!!!

OaO Asithri

Sujeewa Kokawala said...

C. Sceptic;

Agree that Sri Vikrama ended in a positive note. But I am against people daydreaming infinite possibilities now. There hasn't been a black magic that changed something in SL. It is a victory own hard, a victory which will be challenged every day in future and a human feat not divine. So let it rest. Tomorrow it is the same SL.

Do not expect too much from MR in any direction. He's yet another two-term president. He has to work with same system as his predecessors. Sure we shuld give him a chance, but we shuld not take him for a magician for good or evil.

Asithri said...

Some imbecile fcuker says:

[I've set myself a challenge (re. per capita income)]

True! per capita measurement can be influenced by the "lot and lots of" illegitimate births...births from young Tamil girls whose parents willingly got them pregnant (by brothers/uncles and even dads) just to spare them from being forcefully hauled by the LTTE terra-whores for "liberation struggle"...ha ha ha...

Now in addition, I am told many sex-depraved LTTE thangaatchis are now finally "opening up" to a whole liberated, blissful, world that they never knew...and takers are many I am told...

ha ha ha...

So, this is all bound to have a "challenging impact" on the per capita target set by any whoredog I am sure...

:)) :)) :))

OaO Asithri

Asithri said...

How far to Killinocchi?

Asithri said...

Oooops....sorry, I should start off with "how far to Mavil Oya"...

Asithri said...

ha ha ha...................

Asithri said...

Gawd, now where the fcuk did that "parcel" go to...damn it, I just got off the bus and I left it there...

ha ha ha........

Hey Sri Lankans...do not panic, my "parcel" only had some used condoms from Miliband/Soleheim duo and I got it off that "Ali ship"...I was going to use them when I fcuk my Jaffna swines from now on...as now I am scared of getting swine flu...

:)) :)) :))

OaO Asithri

Charitable Sceptic said...

Third Eye,

Agree with you.

Sinhalese mindset will not tolerate dictators.

That is the best defence against racist utopia projects like Ealam.

Sorry Peter.

Peter said...

Asithri,

Ammie sent you that parcel from Libya with love.

Shame you had to leave it on the bus.

Other than the "used condoms", she also has a few half Arab brothers for you. Hope you'll upload family photos onto Flickr, again.

Asithri said...

ToiletNadu Sakkiliya...

[a few half Arab brothers ]

That I will take any day over a racist, unwashed, smelly, uncouth, Sakkiliya any day...

Rememeber...we even infused some Portuguese blood into our clans...just to show you how much we loathe you shit-bucket haulers from ToiletNadu?

We are PROUD...We WON...We RULE...We DECIDE...even you fate!

Ouch!

ha ha ha....

OaO Asithri

Asithri said...

So how far to Paranthan?

Asithri said...

ha ha ha.........

Asithri said...

Tamil racist cocksuker...how far is it from your whore mother's cunt to her cervix? 1/2 inch? That explains your intellect!

:)) :)) :))

OaO Asithri

Asithri said...

Shit, now where did I leave that parcel? ooops I left in a bus two weeks ago and nothing happened..no one even turned it into Lost & Found!

ha ha ha....

So much for that "parcel" story...but sadly we know some LTTE hardcore IDPs "escaped" over the past two week...pity...they ran into the jungle...wonder if their bodies will ever be found after they were devoured by wild animals...

Damn...what a cruel world we live in...

:(( :(( :((

OaO Asithri

Asithri said...

Sri Lankan commandos kill two rebels

[Jun 6 (AP) Sri Lankan police commandos flushing out Tamil Tiger remnants killed two rebel fighters hiding in jungle in the east of the island, the military said Saturday. Military spokesman Brig. Udaya Nanayakkara said the commandos confronted the guerrillas from the defeated separatist group in Ampara district on Friday. After an exchange of fire, the commandos recovered the two bodies, assault rifles, ammunition and food stocks]

I guess some Sakkiliyas don't know when to give up...hilarious...but got to be glad in a way as after all, we must keep our beloved SLDF in top-shape and some target practice now and then is just what they need...

:)) :)) :))

OaO Asithri

lankaputhra said...

strategypage.com

War Crimes In Sri Lanka
June 4, 2009: The UN, and many European nations, are very angry at Sri Lanka for defeating the separatist Tamil rebels, after nearly 30 years of fighting. The UN, and particularly Norway, were trying hard to work out a peace deal. The Tamils, represented by the LTTE (an organization eventually recognized as an international terrorist group) refused to budge on their demand for partition of the island. A decade ago, the LTTE controlled a third of the island, although Tamils are only 13 percent of the population. It used to be 18 percent, but many have fled because of the LTTE violence, and government attempts to cope. Three years ago, fed up with over a decade of failed peace efforts, the government determined to crush the LTTE and regain control of the entire island.
This went against UN, and European, beliefs, which held that you cannot destroy a popular uprising with force. You must negotiate. This terrified the Sri Lankans, as the UN and Europe had recently detached Kosovo from Serbia and arranged for Kosovo to become an independent nation.

Despite UN and European efforts, Sri Lanka recently destroyed the LTTE, and brought the entire island under government control. Now the UN and many Europeans are determined punish Sri Lanka for this affront. There is talk of war crimes prosecutions, and European nations that sold Sri Lanka weapons in the last decade are being threatened as well.

None of this will come to anything. The LTTE were a really nasty bunch, and it wasn't all that surprising that the group was eventually declared international terrorists. But it took years of efforts by the Sri Lankan government to accomplish this. The Sri Lankan officials embarrassed many nations, by exposing the way the LTTE coerced expatriate Tamils (especially those living in Europe) to support the LTTE violence with cash and assistance in supplying weapons to the LTTE fighters in Sri Lanka.

The UN, and many Europe based NGO (non-governmental organizations) aid groups were also hated by most Sri Lankans because this aid kept the LTTE going. Moreover, as territory was recovered from the LTTE, it was discovered that the aid groups were rather more vital to the LTTE than the NGOs had admitted. The NGOs still insist they were just doing their job, while Sri Lanka see the NGOs as self-righteous supporters of terrorism.

For the UN and many Europeans, this primacy of negotiation, and compromise, over fighting, is considered sacred. Sri Lanka is seen as evil for their use of violence to halt terrorism. The offended parties in the UN and Europe will never forget.

Peter said...

Woah! What a burst of verbal diarrhoea. Think I had touched a raw nerve there.

Surely, bipolar at its best? Maybe it's the age-old inferiority complex.

kevin said...

LTTE respected our courts; they did not fire a single shot at our courts –CJ
What the hell is he saying? May be so! So what? Is he throwing a lifeline to these terrorists? When these terrorists done so much criminal damaged to us like killing 700 or so surrendered cops, bashed babies against the wall, blew up the maligawa etc He should have mentioned that as well and I can add to his list as a born Christian that VP went to church every Sunday perhaps gave a cyanide pill for every child as sacrament. Where is these guys sense of justice to those who gave their lives? Amen!

Pandula said...


Blogger wijayapala said...

" It is a known fact that LTTE used child soldiers as young as 7 years old."

It seems that Mushe is the real "ASS-CLOWN" here. The youngest LTTE fighter was about 12 years old, and the median age was approximately 15.



oi, at least come to the blog with proper identity, something like "Wijayapalan" so that you can least try to convince us with your bogus stats.

beside, your rogue avatar the correct age should be -6 (9-3) when the ruthless cult blow off that pregnant suicide member.

got it ?

back to your alias,

if you want to be Sinhalese, you are welcome, but there is a prize to pay "to be honest and be a patriot"

I think it something hard for you.

Ananda-USA said...

Asithri said...

[ Sure when one has fought an enemy that one begrudgingly holds some admiration for its conduct in war…but a heinous terrorist motherfucker group that has bashed skulls of infants on tree trunks? ]

Exactly, bro

We didn't fight an honorable enemy who fought fair by the rules, but one who used every despicable method to kill both combaants and non-combatants alike.

So, lets discard out of hand this "MAGNANIMOUS IN VICTORY" BS and the underlying implication that we have to be "fair" to the defeated LTTE.

Because of our own values and principles, we should be just and kind to the VICTIMS, but not to the PERPETRATORS. WE should stand firmly against, and bring to book, ANY and ALL those who aided and abetted the LTTE inflict this violence on our citizens, and those who want to resurrect it in the future.

MAGNANIMOUS IN VICTORY my foot! Trying to setup ways to let the MURDERERS get away SCOT FREE!

Pandula said...


Blogger kevin said...

LTTE respected our courts; they did not fire a single shot at our courts –CJ



I so wanted to reply to your last post, I couldn't.

Well, you are not alone. there are many feels the same frustration like you.

This our parent's problem, they were not visionary like their western counterpart. they handsomely gave the "X" UNP or SLSP for sake of loyalty and now we have these Bila folks as a result.

Hopefully someday there will be prerequisite for these MPs.

about CJ, think he lost his credibility at the last minute, but again that clearly shows the mentality of our leaders.

Hope things will be better, we are back from the point of no-return. it is not a smooth slide but will get there.

BTW, what is going on?, cannot sleep at this time?

wijayapala said...

Hi Peter,

"Meanwhile, I plot."

It's a good thing you didn't come up with this wonderful idea last year when GSP+ was up for the EU's review. The loss of EU preferences at that earlier date arguably could have put a dent in the final offensive against the LTTE.

Unfortunately it seems that with Thalaivar out of the picture, there's nobody really to mobilize the diaspora against SL (no Pete, you are no substitute for the Sun God). You guys will still buy lemon puffs and other goodies because they are your last link with your homeland.

wijayapala said...

"What I find difficult to comprehend, however, is the re-emergence of the 'slave mindset', which was supposed to have faded in our most recent sacrificial, glorious history."

LOL!!!!

I hope you weren't thinking of the photos of dead Thalaivar in His Birthday Suit on defence.lk when you talk about "recent glorious history!"

LMAO!!

Pandula said...


Blogger Peter said...
Sam Perera's ...
Asithri's ...


And the "getdarata naki una ^1" high class Peter condemn to jack himself to virtual Preeti Zinta.

^1. As per the Oxford dictionary "gedarata naki una" explains a upper class, highly educated sorry ass could not marry due to parents cast restrictions.

Anonymous said...

Guys

Just a word. Why you guys are so harsh to Peter Ratnadurai? Most peelamians are now going through "post velupunde disorder". Besides, if these peelamians stop showing up on blogs we moda singala bandas will forget there was an LTTE and a war, after two weeks. Moreover, who doesn't like to enjoy with monkey show?

SL ASSHOLE said...

OaO Asithri

SINHALA PUSSYHUNTER

WHAT A GREAT PROFESSION

FAMILY TRADITION I SUPPOSE

Pandula said...


Blogger Ninja said...
Guys
Just a word. Why you guys are so harsh to


Give them an inch (express his sarcasm or turn to good people), they start shitting everywhere.

Gone are the days we tolerate perceived "harmless LTTE" buddy, since he is a friend and reluctance upset the feelings.

agreed, we need monkeys pull the lion's tail every now and then otherwise lazy lions go to sleep as usual :)

need balance.

but sometimes too much monkeys means usual sakkili dance.

Kirigalpoththa said...

Nice aritcle! Keep them coming..

Sniper said...

Indian Ambassador and Dr. Dayan at the UNHRC meeting;

UNHRC Video.

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