Thursday, January 24, 2008

Massgrave Unearthed in Kebitigollewa

16 bodies were recovered from Kebitigollewa this evening, thought to be remains of civilians. A cattle herdsman tipped off the police following the detection of a human body and hand sticking out of a mass burial ground adjacent to the Kebitigollewa GS Division's town waste dump. 10 bodies were buried in one large pit and another six buried in an adjacent pit. All bodies had hands tied behind and killed execution-style. The mass burial maybe as old as 10 days, according to our sources. Further investigations are continuing.

Although LTTE is known to infiltrate Kebitigollewa through Gonamariyawa and other weak points, it is uncharacteristic of them to assassinate people like this and bury them in mass graves. However, anything is possible at the rate of recent civilian killings experienced in these areas.

Update
17 bodies recovered were removed by Police a short while ago. Location of Massgrave is Kirikotuwewewa, a village situated along Kebitigollewa-Horowpathana road. The mass grave were discovered by two Muslim cattle herdsmen. The bodies are almost completely decomposed. One female corpse also recovered. They have been brought and dumped from outside.

31 comments:

perein said...

Defencewire-
Are these mixer of male / female and kids? or all male?

LKDOOD said...

APRC recommends maximum devolution of powers to Tamils

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chamal said...

The killing is possible of course, but the burying? Why would LTTE want to bury the bodies when they can use them to terrorize people by displaying them?

perein said...

Chamal-
Do n't forget mate LTTE are innovative. Never know what they would try... right?

chamal said...

perein,
yes..... but they must have a purpose, right? what good will it do them by hiding the bodies?

btw are all of them from kebithigollewa? maybe they were killed somewhere else and buried here?

perein said...

Could be trying to give a bad name to security forces? or a political party .. any possibility is there I guess...

LKDOOD said...

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LKDOOD said...

defence.lk

'suspected LTTE terrorists'

Police said the victims are believed to be a group of civilians who had gone searching for their cattle.

The victims were apparently hacked to death, the sources added

Renegade! said...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1cgb6tMPsrY

Chek out the above for your viewing pleasure- top20

LKDOOD said...

India welcomes Sri Lanka report on devolution

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chamal said...

defenwire,
defence.lk says that the bodies were dumped in a swamp, nothing about a mass grave. And they also say that it was probably done this evening. What's going on?

LKDOOD said...

1987 pact with India to be implemented: Sri Lanka

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chamal said...

sorry, it says the bodies were found this evening, not killed. My mistake...

defenceline said...

Suicide bombing is interduced by Japan and it came through korea , Vietnam and special it used in India during the fight with with british ... you people made them to do that...when u people kill thier parents cruelly they won't be calm ... so pls try to know something about the ethnic pro ok.. the SLA killed more than 5000 tamil civilians and keep on killing ... if u mean LTTE are terrorist then what u gonna say about SLA the lord of terrorist

Check out this link http://www.eelatamil.net/gallery/categories.php?cat_id=12

Panhinda said...

Unfortunately the innocent Tamils will pay for these killing in years to come. The anger will not be manifested as riots this time though.

Sun Tzu's disciple said...

""it is uncharacteristic of them to assassinate people like this and bury them in mass graves""

I think it is fair to presume that this is mass-execution of Tamils by Govt Death Squads due to the nature of the crime and location, just as Monaragala crimes can be presumed to be due to LTTE death squads for same reason.(Although no perpetrators caught for either crime)
If the bodies are fresh it could have been a retaliation for the southern killings?

Ranil said...

STD
seems like you haven't been to SL for decades...
There are no government death squads going after tamils as you say...
However MI is going after ltte'rs who are mostly tamils...
what does the government gain by killing tamils as a revenge gesture?
If at all they loose and not gain anything.
Don't be silly by saying these were revenge killings of tamils by "death squads"

I'm also in for the theory that this is highly unlikely to be the handy work of the tigers...
But just because of that you can't assume they were all innocent tamils. SLDF will take out those who associate with the ltte to cause harm to the country etc and i think that's fair game

Sun Tzu's disciple said...

""There are no government death squads going after tamils as you say...""

Really?? "Death Squad" does not mean actual unit purely for execution. If MI(Colombo/Vavunia), EPDP( Jaffna/Maheswaran), TMVP(Batti) ,SF, Navy(muttur aid workers) or anybody from Govt Military side executes civilians outside law that becomes a death squad for that occassion.
Now dont tell me such incidents by above groups are uncommon?

""However MI is going after ltte'rs who are mostly tamils...""
Here LLTEr is often an euphemism for Tamil( eg mass deportation)

""what does the government gain by killing tamils as a revenge gesture?""
Reason is one of the first casualties of war, esp civil war.


""I'm also in for the theory that this is highly unlikely to be the handy work of the tigers...""

Then who is capable of such a massive operation and for what motive in this area.


""But just because of that you can't assume they were all innocent tamils""
Is the slip showing through now:)?

""SLDF will take out those who associate with the ltte to cause harm to the country etc and i think that's fair game""

So by that logic LTTE are justified murdering people in Monaragala because they presumably 'ássociate' with GoSL??
So by your logic killing GoSL supporters is 'fair game'??

Your last argument indicate a disturbing mindset.

Ranil said...

STD
read again
i wrote
"SLDF will take out those who associate with the ltte to cause harm to the country etc and i think that's fair game"

and you say

"So by that logic LTTE are justified murdering people in Monaragala because they presumably 'ássociate' with GoSL??"

Maybe for you ltte and gosl might seems like they are in equal standing eh :)
what's showing is stripes mate and we all know how un-disturbed their minds are after decades of idling :)

Ranil said...

STD

"Here LLTEr is often an euphemism for Tamil( eg mass deportation)"

Here must be in peelam under velus nana's rule then...
You should be in SL and move out from that rock you're living under. There's no agenda against tamils here like you say. as sad the deportations were, they were done due to security reasons since many suicide bombers have been known to take refuge in those lodges.

"Reason is one of the first casualties of war"
explains your posts...thanks

"Then who is capable of such a massive operation"
first of all...it's not a massive operation by any means. And i never said the government won't have a hand at this. My point was that these people might not be innocent civilians like you seem to have presumes by calling them tamils... they can be easily ltte operatives nabbed by the MI units and shown the door to peelam. the government have the right to defend the country against the terrorists and those who associate with the ltte should be ready to pay the price.

Sun Tzu's disciple said...

Ranil,

""SLDF will take out those who associate with the ltte to cause harm to the country etc and i think that's fair game"
"
Yes I read it rightly. Again.So civilians supporting GoSL is harming the de facto country of Tamils so they are fair game for LTTE murders? EXACTLY same logic.


""Maybe for you ltte and gosl might seems like they are in equal standing eh :)""

I 'm not sure what is your measure, but yes, I do expect both GosL and LTTE to be EQUALLY sensitive to human life.You cannot have impunity to murder just because you are "Govt"!

""You should be in SL and move out from that rock you're living under""
Why dont you convince others through measured arguments than throwing abuse?

""There's no agenda against tamils here like you say. as sad the deportations were, they were done due to security reasons since many suicide bombers have been known to take refuge in those lodges."""
Yea. So why dont you raze those lodges too?

""explains your posts...thanks"'
Points please.
""it's not a massive operation by any means""
Ok.Depends on how you use the term. Mass burying 17 people in 2 mass graves without anyone noticing looks like a major enterprise to me.

""And i never said the government won't have a hand at this.""
I never accused you of it either.


""they can be easily ltte operatives nabbed by the MI units and shown the door to peelam. the government have the right to defend the country against the terrorists and those who associate with the ltte should be ready to pay the price.""

Exactly. Thats my point. If you suggest that such a course is correct for GoSL you should be willing to condone LTTE executing civilians who support GoSL by same logic, righto?

Sad.Very sad.

Ranil said...

"Thats my point. If you suggest that such a course is correct for GoSL you should be willing to condone LTTE executing civilians who support GoSL by same logic, righto?"

those who support a terrorist outfit who even recruits children to be sent to the battlefront and the individuals who are associated with such an outfit to carry out their missions cannot be categorized as "civilians"

I agree with you that both parties should be "sensitive to human life" like you put it but the fact is that one party here is an elected government and the other is a terror outfit... The government has all the right to "deal" with those who are with the said outfit without being "sensitive to human life" when they are terrorists...

Ranil said...

"Yes I read it rightly. Again.So civilians supporting GoSL is harming the de facto country of Tamils so they are fair game for LTTE murders? EXACTLY same logic."

explained before. But just to add...
The easiest trick in the terrorist field these days is to ask for a fake country and fight for it and make a big business out of the whole thing and then justify the killings of civilians by saying they were working against the "de facto country" :)
wow...what a great strategy...
This "de facto state" can even have child soldiers and suicide bombers to take out the legit government people and their forces...

Man you tiger supporters deserve a bugger like velu and his unique style of liberation :) :)

I hope in your lifetime you see the fake peelam dream die with all who tried to make it a reality :)

catch you later tiger :) i'm off :)

Sun Tzu's disciple said...

Dear Ranil,
""those who support a terrorist outfit who even recruits children to be sent to the battlefront and the individuals who are associated with such an outfit to carry out their missions cannot be categorized as "civilians" ""

Are you talking about GoSL military and paramilitary who have been rounding up kids for forced war (source UN/SLMM/HRC/AI etc).
Are you talking about the Govt which handed out Diplomatic Passport to such people as you describe? I am using this example to expose your rhetoric. Rhetoric cannot be used to condone mass murder, whether it is Monaragala or kebithigollewa is immaterial.

""The government has all the right to "deal" with those who are with the said outfit without being "sensitive to human life" when they are terrorists...""

'associate with ltte(your words)' is not the same as 'terrorists' . I am sure you also 'associate' with GoSL at some point... Should that be a reason for murdering you?

Terrorists and Govts are labels which can change. eg Nelson Mandela was a 'terrorist'. And Armed forces of Iran have been recently labelled Terrorist by USA--so why does GoSL get military help from this 'Terrorist'?
Even LTTE soldiers when captured need due procesing by law, not mass execution. Would you like your captured soldiers to be mass executed and buried in unmarked graves by LTTE?

Sun Tzu's disciple said...

""explained before""
Where..?!

""Man you tiger supporters deserve a bugger like velu and his unique style of liberation :) :)

I hope in your lifetime you see the fake peelam dream die with all who tried to make it a reality :)

catch you later tiger :) i'm off :)""

Too much of frustration there? Some of you think like George Bush...If you're not with us, you're against us. We all know GWBs situation now, dont we:)?

Ranil said...

STD

"Are you talking about GoSL military and paramilitary who have been rounding up kids for forced war"

if you can remember the UN rep who made the accusation was asked present solid evidence to back his claim by the government and he could never produce the said evidence. All these were claims never proven with facts and evidence... If there is any, would you mind giving me a link to state that SLDF was implicated in what you're accusing of

"'associate with ltte(your words)"
don't be a cheap shot and take part of the sentences i have written. I clearly said "SLDF will take out those who associate with the ltte to cause harm to the country"

you can read the later part of sentence right???

"Even LTTE soldiers when captured need due procesing by law"

oh yeah...y don't you go and ask you ltte buddies what they did to in Muhamalai, how they gutted out captured soldiers

And again, LTTE can take on SLDF, the military of the gosl... LTTE is a armed terrorist group and not a political party so your little wet dream fantasy is all BS...
talk about an outfit gunning down all opponents including political ones, child recruiting, suicide bombing...the list is long.
I'm you're a must proud to think that ltte has a label that can be changed after all they have done...especially to the community they supposedly represent...

You talk about frustration..yeah true... so little time, so little money but crap load of terrorists to deal with :) It's a tough job but hell we're getting it done...

chintanaya said...

No doubt these dead people are tamils
abducted and killed by sri lankan government security forces

The bodies were found on Thursday evening by villagers in a district 206 kilometres (130 miles) north of the capital Colombo. The victims had been blindfolded, tied up and shot, officials said.

Local police officials said they believed the victims had been killed elsewhere and that the graves were hurriedly dug by the side of a lonely stretch of road.

The defence ministry immediately blamed Tamil Tiger rebels, who control a large area further to the north and are fighting for independence from the island's ethnic Sinhalese majority.

In a statement, the ministry said the victims were believed to be civilians who had been searching for their cattle, only to be killed by "suspected LTTE (Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam) terrorists."

But local residents said there had been no reports of such a large group going missing in the area.

On Thursday evening, government media officials asked local radio and television stations not to broadcast the report of the mass graves, and some stations complied, pulling the story from their primetime news bulletins.


http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20080125/wl_sthasia_afp/srilankaunrestmurderrights_080125075348

Sun Tzu's disciple said...

""if you can remember the UN rep who made the accusation was asked present solid evidence to back his claim by the government and he could never produce the said evidence. All these were claims never proven with facts and evidence... If there is any, would you mind giving me a link to state that SLDF was implicated in what you're accusing of""

Well then why dont you provide 'solid'evidence of ltte involvement in Monaragala and various suicide bombings? Some things can be deduced by common sense too.It is not just Un but many other agencies.

""don't be a cheap shot and take part of the sentences i have written. I clearly said "SLDF will take out those who associate with the ltte to cause harm to the country"

you can read the later part of sentence right???
""
I'm afraid you're the cheap shot. Initially you said 'associate with ltte ' . When I countered it you switched to 'terrorist'.Not the same.

""oh yeah...y don't you go and ask you ltte buddies what they did to in Muhamalai, how they gutted out captured soldiers""

Tell me ONE(like U'N/ICRC/AI) reliable source which said so??
Again, if this is true, does this point actually not illustrate the point I made--respect due process of law(Geneva conv in this case)??


""And again, LTTE can take on SLDF, the military of the gosl... LTTE is a armed terrorist group and not a political party so your little wet dream fantasy is all BS...
talk about an outfit gunning down all opponents including political ones, child recruiting, suicide bombing...the list is long.
I'm you're a must proud to think that ltte has a label that can be changed after all they have done...especially to the community they supposedly represent...""

I never raised these points.You did. I already told before..I'm not here to score brownie points for either party.


""You talk about frustration..yeah true... so little time, so little money but crap load of terrorists to deal with :) It's a tough job but hell we're getting it done...""

My best wishes

Sun Tzu's disciple said...

Just for the record I am neither Tamil nor Singalese . I am from SEA.
I am tired of being picked-on on supposition of being a Tamil tiger supporter.
However I'm very interested in the military side of your civil war--a unique war which I think will be discussed in the annals of military history for times to come.

Ranil said...

"Initially you said 'associate with ltte ' . When I countered it you switched to 'terrorist'.Not the same"

don't stress your brain mate
LTTE = terrorists

wonder why you get picked on by people for being a tiger supporter???
take a guess my friend... most of your posts are in favor of them...
if you're interested in this war...you should at least look and talk about things "fairly"

you understand that word right? :)

I'm beginning to think that you've never even been to SL and depend solely on other sources for your info... well mate...take some advice from a cheap shot...
you can't talk about things that's happening here not knowing it first hand... Because our situation is quite unique and most of the glossed our propaganda dished out by the tiger front doesn't hold water...
If you were here and have been with the people...

So the cheap shot will walk away out of sheer respect and fear for some expert on our conflict who seems to liking towards the striped kind...

sun tzu must be rolling in his grave.

you have a good day sir.

Sun Tzu's disciple said...

Well ranil,

your posts are indeed great examples of logic and fair play.

Avoiding my counters and going in for character assasination seem to be your idea of fair play.Why dont you give a pointwise rebuttal of my original post if you think it favors one party?

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