Friday, August 15, 2008

LRRP recue video posted on defence.lk

On 2nd August we posted a story about another daring rescue operation to save a trapped LRRP team deep inside LTTE areas. The report was was follows;

"A few days ago, a SLA LRRP team was detected in the area just south of Kilinochchi at Kokavil by a group of LTTE civilian force members who called in reinforcements. The team of six special Forces fought valiantly losing two men in the process. Finally, a chopper full of Special Forces was brought in, who decimated the LTTE attack and rescued 4 men and one body. The other body was captured by the Tigers."
http://defencewire.blogspot.com/2008/08/heavy-fighting-as-mallavi-comes-under.html

Today, defence.lk has posted a video of this operation, perhaps the only one of its kind so far. If you have not already seen it, please visit http://defence.lk/videos/20080815Rescue.wmv to see the video.

Thank you.
DW Team

160 comments:

perein said...

Thank you for the explanation about the video.
Long live our long rangers. Theruwan Saranai.

londonistan said...

Defencewire,

Was there a second airforce operation (in addition to the purely rescue and aircover one depicted in the vid) to airlift in additional special forces personnel?

thiru said...

SLA is in for a rude awakening, they are marching towards killinochi, i hear the tigers are ready as ever to confront them and break their backs, have you guys ever wondered why the ltte has let the SLA come so far on one side and yet defended so hard in pallamodai and the northern front? Think of the reasons for this modhayas, let me remind you that the tiger is the most deadliest when it is crouching!

Parakrama said...

thiru,

I wonder if tigers crouch when taking a dump...

Please enlighten us, do they crouch when taking dump or just let it rip standing upright?

perein said...

Thiru-
What happened to your singing red bird/s?

Srilankan said...

Perein,
Bro these are "real bad" times for those who sincerely believed in the LTTE.They are the true representatives of the tamil people afterall.I dont think even if 1000 soldiers were to die Gen Fonseka will stop this mission.The Hon President certainly wont.After this is over hopefully sooner than later the papers are going to have a field day publishing names/addresses of those who supported and helped the LTTE of all races.There is going to be a limited "witch hunt" it appears.As for the tamil diasphora they are citizens of other countries now.Well you cant have each of your feet in a different place.

perein said...

Srilankan-
Bro, you are absolutly right. I think it's matter of hours or days before get those LTTE into one corner and send fire from all directions.
At that stage, LTTE will be doing all most all the olympics events in one go.

Jack said...

DW the Bell firing the flares was that the automatic defences or manually fired by the pilots? if auto then does that mean they were targeted by MANPADs.

Also near the end they seem to show the face of one of the injured LRRP members, is this not a danger to them on future missions?

Defencewire said...

londonistan,
The chopper that landed had reinforcements. MI24/35s were the escort. The route that was taken was based on ground intelligence. This is why they flew so low.

jack,

There's an automatic dispenser system connected to a radar system that has like a switchboard inside the chopper, an antenna and a box shaped dispenser on the outside.

Sun Tzu's disciple said...

is there any truth to the Island report of Tigers building a large runway in Mullaitivu?
I suspect the report has no basis as it defies logic at this point of time?

srilankan,
" I dont think even if 1000 soldiers were to die Gen Fonseka will stop this mission."
I agree. Even in the event of LTTE doing a devastating counterstrike, I think SF has kept a reserve of approx 15,000 ready soldiers at any time to replace the demoralised ones( This I deduced from the reports of numbers of enlistment, trainees and actual figures engaging in combat).

Ogre said...

The reserve force now stands around 30,000 with another 3000 joining each month!

time has come to throw at least one offensive division in to the attack...

creation of 3 more divisions would take place soon,

TropicalStorm said...

Thiru

Crouching tigers...they do that when constipated too.

Regrettably most so called patriotic Sinhalese bloggers do not seem to appreciate teh pro-LTTE bloggers' warnings and the brotherly goodwill it all arises from. Sinhalese 'modayas' are such.

Anyhow, the government is sending a big force of veterinarians to help the tiger get over his constipation. By the time they are done, the Tigers will have such big anal orifices, constipation won't be a problem.

Lankapura said...

Great video, thanks DW.

re: Balloons
Using Balloons and 'Zeppelins' was discussed before in DN. Unless they attain a certain altitude they are sitting ducks for AA guns. There are high-altitude airships that can be used as an alternative to satellites, but even Lockheed is still developing these.
http://www.lockheedmartin.com/products/HighAltitudeAirship/index.html

TropicalStorm said...

This truly will be the 'final war'. Ironically the initiative was the LTTE's, commitment and readiness belonged to the SLG and the price is paid by civillians who have no vote.

As long as Velu gets what he asked for; total war, this should all end well.

Already the East has become a non-issue for the seperate state claim.

Back to the drawing board ladies. It'll have to begin with population increase, building up for decades if not centuries, and yet another campaign with global support.

The LTTE and the crazies under-estimated the average Sri Lankan's will to fight, and that proved to be fatal.

What you hear about 'devastating' attacks are all fart from a dickless hyena who wants the world to think he's a real tiger. The cat has been neutered and it is now a pussy. Only problem is, it is over-ripe and nasty.

NOLTTE=Peace said...

TS

"Only problem is, it is over-ripe and nasty." :-)))

You mean unwashed owing to no water in the rat bunker?

TropicalStorm said...

Lankapura

Balloons have to hang in the atmosphere, and are large and ungainly. More than altitude and staying out of gun range, it is vulnerable to sudden changes in wind strength, direction and other atmospheric disturbances.

Even at high altitides, a single engined civillian plane with a gun could take it down. The LTTE is already suspected to have shot down at least one high altitude UAV, a much smaller and more manueverable target using their aircraft.

Your balloon idea is good for peacetime stuff. This is 21st century war and that comes with a different set of realities.

Sun Tzu's disciple said...

"What you hear about 'devastating' attacks are all fart from a dickless hyena who wants the world to think he's a real tiger. The cat has been neutered and it is now a pussy. Only problem is, it is over-ripe and nasty."

while it does seem like SLA is pulverizing LTTE, I suggest a little more caution?
I think SF is aware of the LTTEs potential for doing great damage just when they are written off.

thambala said...

About baloons/zeps,

I did a bit of reading. A T 56 will have an effective range of 400 m. And a Standard sniper rifle about 1 km. Also I read a wikipedia article about anti aircraft warfare. According to that it is not easy to shoot down airborne object, may be even relatively static ones unless you have specialised equipment made for these purposes. The altitude makes the job difficult it seems and aiming as well.

So anyway let's keep a 3 km altitudde and a distance of a couple of kilometers from the air strip and move in unpredictable ways around the strip. If say 2 zeps can be deployed at a time we could see how effective this might be. I am speculating but I guess so do the opponents to this idea, but what's the harm in acquiring some of these and experiment in our own territory? This is my main argument.

Lankapura, what is that altitude?

About a zlin bringing down a zeppelin (let me eject the baloons even I think they are not viable).. the picture in my mind is a few personnel in the zep having a few weapons also including some SAMs. Strong winds may be a problem if the zeps are blown away towards high tiger concentrated areas.

But let me conclude this now, since there is so much negativity about it.

thambala said...

Guys, I am wary of counting the chicken before they hatch...

I say put off the celebrations and keep focused to contribute in whatever little way we can to make this a success.

Miliyaa said...

wow...what a clip...wish we could see more of these...

we watch loads of war movies from west, which are not real..but look how amazing are these clips...

thambala said...

Indeed!

What great action!

What great work by the SLAF!

SLAF you have reached new heights!!! We are proud of you!

phaedrus said...

If 58 is marching up to Pooneryn, I guess another division will have to be located in the Devil's Point area. Even if a division is to come down from Jaffna to Pooneryn, another division would be needed to properly encircle Kilinochchi while protecting the rear and supply lines to Nochchikuda or other sea/land routes.

I think at the moment, LTTE leadership must be concerned with a sea escape route for them from the east coast. If the story about their new runway is true, they may also have some larger aircraft located in a neighbouring country ready to fly in as a last resort for evacuation. It's location should give a clue as to where they plan the final stand, while their leaders try to escape. My guess is that LTTE expects to loose Kilinochchi first.

thambala said...

Phaedrus,
Excellent analysis on the input about deducing the point of LTTE's last battle based on the runway!

We must at least now have a dedicated unit to actively monitor and give chase to Virtual Pillai's escape attempts. This should have ground, air, naval and other components.

thambala said...

Now we need to verify this claim by the Island.

I have not seen this news anywhere else.

DW, someone please update...

andare said...

DW,
Who are the people on the ground. Are they Terras?

Tharanga said...

Ha ha ha, finally the AI has mustered the courage to stand up to the LTTE:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/7564089.stm

Parakrama said...

thambala,

"SLAF you have reached new heights!!! We are proud of you!"

Mate, SLAF has done this before!

However, the new thing here is that they are beginning to understand what propaganda is ;)

My hats off to SLAF, well done boys! Imagine the psychological impact this has on LRRP, they know that they are not alone!

Imagine the psychological impact on LTTE, they know they are being watched and more than that, they know that we can operate deep inside their territory. WOW!!!


phaedrus,

"It's location should give a clue as to where they plan the final stand, while their leaders try to escape. My guess is that LTTE expects to loose Kilinochchi first."

Mate, I'm no military expert but I don't think LTTE would be stupid enough to expose their battle plans so easily. May be I am wrong, in fact, I hope I am wrong and we've been given a big clue!

Dirt runways for Zlins are one thing but proper runways for larger aircraft is another thing (we discussed this issue a while ago in DN). I don't think they can land a jet or a big plane without a paved runway.

If they start paving this runway, I say let them pave it all the way and drop 3 bombs on it ;)

They will not be able to repair the damage every time we drop a bomb on it!

However, as I said before, I'm against the idea of dropping bombs worth million on dirt runways as it is very easy to repair the damage.

Anyway, I think this runway is just a diversionary tactic. What do you guys think?

If it is a diversionary tactic, what are they upto this time?

Lankapura said...

tropicalstorm,
"Your balloon idea is good for peacetime stuff. This is 21st century war and that comes with a different set of realities."

Wasn't my idea mate, just responding that it was discussed before and pointing out the limitations. The link I sent is for an airship operating at 60000 ft - I'd like to see a Zlin shoot that down :-D

Lankapura said...

thambala,
"Lankapura, what is that altitude?"

Not sure what's the maximum, but this can shoot to 7000m
http://www.sinodefence.com/army/crewserved/type54aamg.asp

Low-flying stuff is a no-go.

Manny said...

I agree, the new air strip most likely is a diver. tactic, they know we can bomb it anytime want to. It would make more sense for VP to use a faster plane and take off from Irranamadu tank. Just my two cents...

Anybody know how many Beechcrafts we have in our inventory ?

Sam Perera said...

manny,

I just counted them, and we have about 26.25 Beechcrafts in this hangar. The 0.25 is to count the remnents of the Becchcraft detryoed in AAB attack. I will provide more information upon request.

Vigilante said...

Watch between 4:19 and 4:17. Was LTTE shooting or a missle or something to do with the video itself?

Vigilante said...

[Low-flying stuff is a no-go.]

The reason for this perhaps to avoid LTTE spotters, that will alert their AA guners, missiles or small arms fire.

Parakrama said...

Tharanga,

Yes, I was surprised to see this article on Biased Broadcasting Cooperation too! However, it is still not good enough!

It's time we did something about the biased reporting of BBC. Please go to http://www.bbc.co.uk/complaints/complaints_stage1.shtml and select "make a complaint" option and follow the procedure.

It will only take a few minutes of your time and if we do this every time BBC carries a biased report, sooner or later BBC will have to take note. I've already done this and this is what I sent them. You guys can either send exactly what I've sent or do your own thing. Either way, please take a few moments to complain!

Thanks!


Dear BBC,

I would like to make a complaint about some factual inaccuracies and biased view of the article titled “Tamil rebels 'breaking the law'” (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/7564089.stm).

1. I would like the BBC to refer to tigers by their proper name. They are not "rebels", they are terrorists. This is a fact. Even the British government has classified LTTE as a terrorist organisation. I've never seen BBC referring to Al Quaeda as "rebels". You always refer to them as terrorists. However, you always refer to LTTE as “rebels”. LTTE is well known terrorist organisation and has peioneered most ruthless terror tactics such as suicide bombs. I would like to know the reason behind BBC’s classification of LTTE as just “rebels”.

2. Quote from your article: "A researcher for the organisation said there were cases where militants had forced people to stay in rebel-held areas to hamper army operations.

She said the government was not doing enough to help them. "

If tigers are preventing people from escaping areas controlled by LTTE, then how can the government help more? This is impossible to do. The only thing the government can do is to go ahead with humanitarian operations until all the areas controlled by LTTE are brought under government control. If she says the government is not doing enough, a good reporter would've asked her "in what way?" BBC should not accuse GOSL without proving their claim beyond any doubt. This is just not responsible journalism.

3. Quote from your article: "The Tamil Tigers are keeping them in harm's way and the government is not doing enough to ensure they receive essential assistance."

Again, the point is, GOSL cannot be held responsible for what happens in LTTE controlled areas. BBC should ask LTTE lay down their arms first so that the government can go in and take care of it's people! If GOSL sends unlimited supplies blindly into LTTE controlled areas, that is the same as providing aid directly to the most ruthless terror organisation in the world. A responsible government cannot be seen openly assisting terrorism!

Thank you!

Parakrama said...

Vigilante,

Can you be more specific about the video clip please? 4.17 - 4.19 in the rescue operation clip was shot near the runway at A'pura airbase. So, it is highly unlikely that LTTE used a missile inside our base!

MoratuSaman said...

Diaspora - if you so unhappy with the video posted by defenceWire, check this out,

check it out ltte baby

you can also see how LttE is well spending your money - to build nice looking grave yards.

Sam Perera said...

Bless these brave soldiers who risk their lives for our tomorrow! We are eternally grateful to them.

Vigilante said...

Parakrama,

When you save it and run using winamp or something you will see that the length of the video is about 5 minutes 25 seconds. That means the count down starts at 5:25 and when it hits 4:19 and 4:17(1 minute 6 seconds into the video) between those 2 seconds a flare can be clearly seen passing the escort gunship. That is what I mean. The very first time I didn't see it, but repeated viewing showed this phenomena.I don't think its part of the chopper's counter messasures against the enemy fire. It is more like a bullet perhaps a .50 gun or somehting.

Vigilante said...

Parakrama,

When you save it and run using winamp or something you will see that the length of the video is about 5 minutes 25 seconds. That means the count down starts at 5:25 and when it hits 4:19 and 4:17(1 minute 6 seconds into the video) between those 2 seconds a flare can be clearly seen passing the escort gunship. That is what I mean. The very first time I didn't see it, but repeated viewing showed this phenomena.I don't think its part of the chopper's counter messasures against the enemy fire. It is more like a bullet perhaps a .50 gun or somehting.

Vigilante said...

Flare passes very close to the gunship...hmmmm.

thambala said...

Parakrama,
It was a general impression created in these blogs that the SLAF was not doing "enough" that prompted me to hail the work of SLAF in this way.

I think it is appropriate...

thambala said...

Vigilante,
It seems to some effect in the video. Look closely and you can see tha it's a straight horizontal line that appears.

phaedrus said...

Parakrama,

Ofcourse it's only a guess. But big installations like runways will have to be included in what ever the strategy they are trying to come up with. Specially if they are building it at this time and putting most of their resources in to it as the article suggested. MI probably have more info and a better idea, but we can try to come up with their options here.

There is a post from Kaatikuddupaan on DefenceNet. What he is saying seems to be that LTTE is mainly their top level cadres. If they are lost, the rest will fall apart. And they don't have option of surrender. With the current positions of the army, I think saving their own skins would be the first priority for the bosses, if they don't have a realistic option to completely stop the army advance.

There is also the 200K civilians. Obviously they can't control all of them. If Kilinochchi falls, I don't think they will be able to keep that many people under their control in Mullaitivu. The ratio of civilians to cadres will be too high for their own safety. So they might decide to keep some civilians in each major areas of battle for propaganda purposes.

What they can try to do is retreat to an area on the east coast for an evacuation with all their cadres and few thousand civilians as a human shield.

Anyway...these are just speculations. But I think the main points are

1. LTTE leaders will know earlier than anyone else when their defeat is inevitable.

2. Once they accept that, their priority will be escape.

3. Escape through sea is not guaranteed and so is by air. They can try to split up, use one as a diversion, or use air to aid an escape by sea.

So I think any new constructions by them should be well noted.

Thambala is right. If we can target the head, the rest will fall apart.

Btw, in the early days there were news/rumours of LTTE having some low tech submarines. I guess for them, this could be the ideal vehicle for evacuation if they still has it. But I don't know whether they are capable of going very far.

Finally, the balloon idea may be workable through our navi ships to spy on the cost from Mullaitivu to north. I mean a simple ballon tethered to a naval craft with high powered imaging equipment operated from the craft. Few such located at regular distances could keep an eye on the coast. Just a thought...

Moshe Dyan said...

MoD offered a good opportunity for SL professionals to get involved in the R&D effort and many submitted their details.

my good friend got a signed letter from GR stating that he will be contacted by the R&D soon. this was 6 weeks ago. nothing so far. i know they are doing a great job but THERE IS A LOT TO DO.

Parakrama said...

thambala,

Of course it is appropriate mate! I never meant to belittle their achievement; it meant it as a compliment to SLAF!

You are right, the general impression we get is that SLAF is not doing enough.

However, recently, we've seen vast improvements in SLAF. This is their moment, hats off to them!

Let's not forget the LRRP team here. These are real brave men. Their intelligence, courage, strength, ability & loyalty is unbelievable!

As nation, we’ll be forever in debt to these and other brave men & women who put their life on the line day in day out!

phaedrus said...

Parakrama,

One more thing about the intelligence of the LTTE...I think we have overestimated them for far too long. Just because clowns were in charge of our country for so long, and in comparison to them LTTE has done a bit more, we have been led to believe that they are smart even compared to the average people.

Think of the individuals we know as leading LTTE, their talks and their actions. Sure they may be able to pull something out of the hat once in a while, but are they truely intelligent. A truely intelligent person would be who one can talk logically with to solve a problem. These are just guns with a mouth and feet.

I wish we could allocate them a small island somewhere just to see how they can run their own country.

[I mean the LTTE bosses here...not the normal educated tamil people.
Uneducated...all races seem to be the same.]

Parakrama said...

Vigilante,

Thanks, I can see it now. However, I can’t tell whether it’s a defect in the video or another phenomenon. I’ll leave it to the experts ;)

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Parakrama said...

phaedrus,

I completely agree with you mate. Those who ran this country before MR were real muppets (to borrow a phrase from Marvan…)!! Their incompetence made LTTE look so good.

However, you have to give some credit to LTTE too. Long Ranger once said that fall of EPS was partly due to the brilliance or tiger tactics. So, we should be really careful not to underestimate them.

wijayapala said...

parakrama,

"However, you have to give some credit to LTTE too. Long Ranger once said that fall of EPS was partly due to the brilliance or tiger tactics. So, we should be really careful not to underestimate them."

True but take a look at the article above on Counterstrike. The LTTE attacked 6 times during the first 6 months of Op. JS causing massive damage to the 55th Division.

I think DN pointed out that the LTTE did a few counterattacks against the 57th Div last summer as it was forming and advancing alone. These attacks did push the 57th back initially but did not cause damage of the scale suffered in JS.

The story gets weirder when we consider that the LTTE made only ONE attack during the bulk of the eastern fighting, that was against Jaffna and they got mauled.

What has happened to the LTTE's fighting cojones???? Did somebody neuter the Tiger??

Aus said...

Hi All,

First time posting on this forum. Reading DW,DN and DFLK every day. Great work!

Since the LRRP is a hot topic these days, I checked the wikipedia to get an idea of it's origins. And guess what, Sri Lankan LRRP is mentioned there under the 'Long-range reconnaissance outside the U.S.'

Check it out
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LRRP

I apologise if this has been already shared in this forum.

Keep up the good work guys, we wake up to your news and updates every day.

Cheers

chamal said...

aus,

I added that part some time ago.... but no big deal just 2 lines. I wanted to write a separate article, but you need references for that and I couldn't find many reliable sources about the LRRP.

Parakrama said...

wijayapala,

Yes, they haven't had the same success this time around. I think this is mostly due to better planning on our part and partly due to other factors (e.g. Karuna split). In Jayasikurui, we pretty much moved along the A9 but this time there is no such column like movement.

The only column like movement that I see at the moment is along western coast. When SLA reaches Pooneryn, we would be in control of a thin coastal belt. So, there is the possibility that tigers may try to break it in the middle and surround those units who've moved further north. The chances of this happening are pretty slim I think as we can reinforce our forces by sea. Also, sea tigers will not be able to support their troops as navy & sla would be in complete control of the coastal belt.

Other factors going against a counter strike probably would be MBRL & SLAF's improved attacking capability (including night time attacking capability).

So, my guess is that tigers will not be able to taste the same success this time. It would be interesting to get input from those bloggers with military experience in this case!

Parakrama said...

Nice one chamal!

kapptipola said...

"Large Runway"

LTTE could high jack Air Craft (from Colombo,Thaminadu or somewhere) and land in in this large runway for requesting a cease fire or move out SL Army backwards.

Aus said...

I got an unconfirmed report saying there was an attack on our troops at Mullativu front yesterday night. Anyone else know anything about it?

jiffy said...

defencewire

just a query about the video. when the 212 is approaching for landing 5 individuals appear in the clearing. but you reported 4 survivors, so i was wondering whether this part of the video is infact showing the 'pick up' after the special forces were deployed?

thanks

jiffy said...

on second thoughts perhaps im mistaking a shadow for the 5th member. the video only briefly shows the guys on the ground.

Moshe Dyan said...

thiru,

why are you revealing your 'national' secrets?

"SLA is in for a rude awakening, they are marching towards killinochi, i hear the tigers are ready as ever to confront them and break their backs, have you guys ever wondered why the ltte has let the SLA come so far on one side and yet defended so hard in pallamodai and the northern front? Think of the reasons for this modhayas, let me remind you that the tiger is the most deadliest when it is crouching!"

do you think we are not ready?

Kaavalan said...

Hey all Mottai Mokkans!!!

Start counting your days, its starting now...

all your brave SLAF, SLN, SLA heads have been counted, and prety soon, you will be counting them to confirm the LTTE.... poor soldiers going to die because of Mahinda familie's personal agenda and singala people who dosen't have any brains, oh sorry, did they even have any?

1, 2, 3... ready set... go!!!!

Virus alert said...

http://edition.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/asiapcf/08/15/srilanka.civil.war.ap/index.html

check this one out. they never talk about the victories of the government but when the tigers drop their tails down they talk about it. i hope cnn will not become proltte. not yet though!

chamal said...

"1, 2, 3... ready set... go!!!!"

I'm afraid that 'go' will never come. You'll be on 'set' for a long time.... until you finally get tired of it.

Moshe Dyan said...

yesterday we were discussing about provoking tigers to put up some fight because they are running away and hiding inside the saaris and sarongs of people.

it seems that capturing or endangering kilinochchi is enough provocation!!

SLDFs will annihilate you bloody filthy LTTE pieces of SHIT.

there are many MORE agrressive guys awaiting to take over from SF, WK & RG.

Observer said...

Chamal..

Im afraid you are wrong..!!

When they say "1, 2, 3... ready set... go!!!!", its the time that the ztte goats, urinate in their pants..

Vigilante said...

http://www.asiantribune.com/?q=node/12757

The worst case cenario...

They say LTTE has access to hundreds of km of tunnels..

Shan said...

vigilante

They say LTTE has access to hundreds of km of tunnels..

no suprise, where else to rats hide when scared...

perein said...

Vigilante-

http://www.asiantribune.com/?q=node/12757

The worst case cenario...

They say LTTE has access to hundreds of km of tunnels..

If true, possibly could lay a railway track on those and use for goods distribution from one location to another.
Lot of possibilities are there when re-capture those locations.

B#1 said...

Mr Kaavalan Tells to the world that the worst brainless peoples in this world are Tamils... Keep it up...

Lankapura said...

"LTTE could high jack Air Craft (from Colombo,Thaminadu or somewhere) and land in in this large runway for requesting a cease fire or move out SL Army backwards."

Good thinking Kappitipola, that could be a real possibility.
I was also thinking could be an escape plan for the terror leaders, to get may be a small executive-jet type aircraft in and out.

Moshe Dyan said...

shan, perein, vigilante & others,

mates, the hypothetical attack as described in asian tribune is a good analysis.

BUT there are many myths that are built (and bulding) around tiger capabilities.

nowhere it says tigers have HUNDREDS of kilometers of tunnels. it says tens of kilometres.

1. this is a VAST difference within their 4k-5k square km territory. while this gives some advantages to tigers, it poses risks as well especially when the SLA is on the offensive mode. the fall of part of the tunnel makes it disusable in whole (or a very large extent).

2. if very large numbers of tigers are hiding in these, there is the risk of them becoming their burrial site. if they are not used by a very large number of tigers, their effectiveness is less (apart from protecting the really scared ones)

3. another BS is the availability of escape routes via tunnels. how can it be unless tunnels lead to india, etc.? of course an immediate escape is possible as long as VP, etc. get OUT of the tunnel system in their escape. then it is back to their feet or other hiding places, not tunnels!! if tunnels are tens of kilometres long, they can only save vezapillai and others from a maximum of 10s of kilometres. obviously if one part of the tunnell falls to the SLA they are likely to use thermobaric weapons and the speed of movement inside the tunnel is VERY slow.

4. another myth is vezapillai's rat hole. they say it is so many metres deep. deeper than our KAB-1000 bomb's effective depth where there are stronger enforcements in the structure. my question is: so what? you don't need to have bombs that can destroy everything at such a depth. IF SLAF bombs vezapillai's bunker, its opening will collapse in. this will burry the rat alive. there will be a MASSIVE clean up operation VERY FAST and this site OBVIOUSLY becomes another target for SLAF.

4. now there are ppl who connect the VERY deep VP's bunker to the tunnel system!! this may be possible. BUT the important thing is the tunnel system is NOT so deep. TF by connecting the VERY DEEP (??) VP's rat hole to the TENS of kilometres of tunnels do NOT offer any ADDITIONAL safety. do you see the point?

5. the article talks about killing 4,000 SLDFs. i know this is ONLY a scenario analysis. but for it to be a proper SA, both costs and benefots of a cause of action must be considered. surely an equal or close number of tigers, especially black tigers will also die. then, who is the weak party THEREAFTER?

6. similarly IF MOST sleepers (or at least a majority of them) "go off" in the south targeting this that and the other, doesn;t it mean only a FEW sleepers are left? so what's stopping the SLDFs from going ALL OUT in the north? remember tigers don't have AN INFINITE number of sleepers and even most of the remaining ones are "handled" by various means.

7. a large tiger movement to attack SLA positions would allow civilians a chance either to escape, rebel or take certain things into their own hands. this makes the remaining tigers EXTREMELY vulnerable.

8. even if tigers managed to kill or disable hypothetically 20,000 SLA, still SLDFs can carryout large scale KILLING strikes on tigers in the SMALL area they are trapped. NEVER forget this is a disproportionate war. of course tigers can use terror and terrorise a whole population, but they can NEVER escape the fact that they are the SMALLER force and are CLOSER to ANNIHILATION than the other party.

i appreciate the type of analysis. BUT it got to be done NOT with any preconceived notion (even an iota of it) of LTTE invincibility.

tigers are VERY vulnerable and they have VERY little chance of escaping a large attack on SL. but that doesn't mean they won't do it. the opposite. they WILL do it.

our preparedness should be on many fronts.

1. DETERRENCE (this is what i want)
2. prevention (this is the popular thing)
3. countering
4. mitigation
5. recovery
6. "counter" attack

there is a BIG difference between 1 & 2. without going to details, i will give an example of how it works.

israel can do almost nothing to effectively PREVENT terrorists from shelling towns (especially "new" jewish settlements) with KATYUSHA rockets. BUT terrorists don't DARE test their luck!!!!

that is deterrence!!

the best prevention is to kill as many tigers as possible so that they SIMPLY cannot (physically) launch large scale attacks.

countering is the ability of SLAF, etc. to respons FAST and wreck havoc on tigers CONSIDERING that its an IDEAL harvesting opportunity.

OneSpirit said...

If the LTTE is extending their runways at a crucial time as this, would it not make sense both strategically and economically to destroy the heavy equipment (bulldozers etc.) required to construct the airfield using ground artillery (which I'm sure we have the range to do), or failing which, a airborne strike on the airfield by special forces itself to blast the airfield including earth moving equipment in the vicinity?

The recent arrest of an International arms dealers revealed that he operated large cargo aircraft to facilitate delivery of his lethal cargo to underground terrorist organizations like the LTTE Tiger terrorists.

My first thoughts on reading this article were: what if the LTTE terrorists are one of his customers? Until recently, we did not have a decent integrated radar system to detect such intrusions of Sri Lanka's airspace. Even with the new radar systems, is it not possible that a single plane would be able to evade detection and deliver its cargo while the SLAF is decoyed with some insignificant attack by the LTTE Takaran Air Force?

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lankanews said...

GOSL decided to ask civilians in Killinochchi and Mullativu to come government controlled areas.

Open in IE

Parakrama said...

Shan,

Exactly mate, this is what I thought. Large aircraft cannot land on a dirt track, they need a paved runway. Once they start paving it, we can bomb it quite easily.

So, this is nothing to worry about.

However, I have seen UN aircraft carrying aid landing on dirt tracks in Africa. So, tigers may be able to land a medium sized aircraft on a dirt track.

What do you think?

If it is possible to land a medium sized aircraft on a dirt track, then the question is what for? Will it be an escape route for VP or will they use it for supplies?

In either case, these medium sized aircraft are slow moving and SLAF should have plenty of time to intercept as it'll take some time for them to leave SL airspace. Once they enter our airspace, they have to make their way to tiger airstrip, land, empty/fill the place, takeoff and leave the airspace. All of this should take at least couple of hours. Do you not think we'll be able to detect & intercept if we have couple of hours?

Virus alert said...

http://www.rivira.lk/2008/08/17/ranabima.htm

theres a good map showing the current status.

andare said...

Now time has come to use phyOps to launch final attack.
Like what was done in 87-89 to curb JVP, opposite to be done to get the civians and LTTE members, who like to giveup arms, out of Wanni.

Messages can be easily passed with the essential supplies, sending from south.
Items like soaps, are directly going to the civilian population and requesting messages can be print on the inside of the cover of soap etc.

Panhinda said...

andare,

/*
Items like soaps, are directly going to the civilian population and requesting messages can be print on the inside of the cover of soap etc.
*/

Good point. We need more creativity with psyops. This is a good suggestion.

Also the LTTE surrendees could broadcast messages over LTTE channels asking their comrades to surrender. The message should be crafted by experts so that it appealing to those LTTE who are fed up looking for any opportunity to desert. LTTE leaders should be targetted so that they bring everyone under with them.

Mohammed said...

It is possible to land C-130s on dirt tracks. Also An-32 Turbofans, Caribous, ILs can land on dirt tracks. These aircraft need extremely short runways for take off and land as they have low V1 (rotate) speeds. There are many ANs and ILs and similar aircraft to charter out there. DC-3s are also not out of the question.

Lankapura said...

I hope some kind of inspection is done on these grave sites to ensure that the tigers haven't hidden away arms or food supplies to get them later:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRIQr8yhtJ0

Shan said...

Parakrama

if it only an escape route for VP they need not go to all that trouble, a seaplane can do the job - take him to a ship in deep seas.

rememebr how Balasingham came in a Maldivian Air Taxi to Mullaitivu and flew back (it's another matter that a ponnaya allowed it. Dumping the seaplane after his getaway is no big deal for the pizza because it's not his money as long as he can getaway.

OTOH this may even be a diversionary tactic, might be an atempt to draw attention to it and escape using some other way. that is if we look at escape aspect only.

Shan said...

parakram and mohammed

the C 130 needs 1573M runway plus 50M clearance to take off, so clearing and compacting the soil to harden it to that length will take quite some time. It's easier said that done to prepare such a surface. Just a cleared dirt track wouldn't do.

The UN planes would be landing on roads that have been used for ages and would have hardened over the years with usage. Has to be roads considering they need a track over one kilometer in length.

Bhairav said...

Off the record!

Guys..Run away wife of Sam Perera reunited with her husband? I thought TS was just kidding.

I should ask Sam whether his wife is finely tuned by his next door man. LOL!

---cheers from fake bhairav---

Bhairav said...

Sam's wife says that LTTE is building runways for Russian long range bombers likes of TU-95.


---cheers from not so fake bhairav---

Mohammed said...

Shan,

I have seen with my own eyes a UN C-130 land on 1/2KM runaway on a hardened dirt track in Africa. Those turbo fans have tremendous right. You are right on one aspect though, the track (not paved) was very hardened through frequent use.

kapptipola said...

for zlins they used roads for sea planes they used iranamadu irrigation tank .they dying for this large runway for something else .i believe they still have huge earth moving trucks they got from Norway.

anyway LTTE Terrorist is planning something like they planned in 1983 July.so it is time to protect thamil speaking people in south as we always done in past.

Bhairav said...

[I have seen with my own eyes a UN C-130 land on 1/2KM runaway on a hardened dirt track in Africa. Those turbo fans have tremendous right.]

Yes, Mohammad's own eyes mean nothing but some movies which were taken in Africa where likes of C-130 type cargo planes were in action.

Observer said...

The terrorists are probably expecting to loose the Iranamadu runway together with the Kilinochchi town. This may be one reason why they attempt to expand the smaller runway.

That indicates one thing. They probablhy expect Mulativ, Puthukudiyiruppu to fall last.. after Pooneryn and Kili.

At the same time this could be a diversionary tactic as well. While pretending to be expanding the smaller runway.. they might be making good use of the Iranamadu runway as well. Hope MI is looking at all these possibilities.

Bhairav said...

Guys, I'm taking survey here.

What's the most buzz word here. Choose one here!
1) Terrorist
2) Patriots
3) Sam's wife
4) LTTE
5) ZTTE
6) Modhaiya
7) MBRL
8) Son of whore
9) Red Bird
10) None of the above.

Your survey results will be published in our DW's next thread.

----cheers from fake bhairav----

nemesis said...

Thanks for the update DW,

still no news from you know who after the first contact.

Sam Perera said...

shan,

The Island editorial also says that LTTE uses a large number of heavy construction machinery in Mullathivu. May be this is good opportunity for SLAF take those machinery out before they put them in to some other use like real bunkers etc.

Shan said...

sam

'large number of heavy equipment' is very realtive.

maybe 5-6 or 8-10 but very unlikely they'll be as dense as 30-40. so dropping bombs on the equipment scattered in a large area may not be worthwhile given the number of crafts and bombs needed to destroy them. each one of them may need to be targetted separately and would not rank high on neccassity and priority.

ia m certainly not an expert on the matter but our experts may tell us a different aspect

Shan said...

nemesis hello

what's your take on sam's point

bhairav said...

Sam says that the C-130 is gonna land in my Ass!!

bhairav said...

Guys, I'm taking survey here.

What's the most buzz word here. Choose one here!
1) LTTE is a peedung figting force
2) Thalaivar is a Diabetic
3) Thalaivars wife's bangd by chlva
4) LTTE got ass kicked in east
5) I like Thalaivars FAT ASS!!
6) LTTEs got F16s U Modayas!
7) Wait for the WMD
8) Blue Bird
9) Red Bird
10) i got crappd on my pants

Your survey results will be published in our DW's next thread.

----cheers from fake bhairav----

bhairav said...

Ahh guys forget the Number 11

11 I got Thalaivars C130 right up in my ASS!!.. Whohooo!! :))

----cheers from fake bhairav----

Ruslan said...

For a C-130 type Tactical air lifter could simply land on this type of airstrip. but it will be very easy target for SLAF for take em out. Our latest F7G's got the look down shoot down capability. so it'll be easy target for them. Rememeber after we got F7Gs.. LTTE tincans were never took off again..

Ruslan said...

Watch this......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5uzpDy3n3Vs

Konappu Bandara said...

Sam Perera said...
[May be this is good opportunity for SLAF take those machinery out before they put them in to some other use like real bunkers etc.]

Sam, Even if the machinary is not clumped together SLAF should be able to use cluster bombs to clean-up the whole area. Sri Lanka is one of the 75 nations that currently have stockpiles of cluster munitions.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convention_on_Cluster_Munitions#Nations_that_have_stocks_of_cluster_munitions

Fortunately our goverment did not get duped into signing Convention on Cluster Munitions, the so called 'Wellington Declaration'.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convention_on_Cluster_Munitions#Nations_that_have_subscribed_to_the_Wellington_Declaration

Cheers!

Sam Perera said...

All,

Regardless of Veza-pillai motives to expand the air strip, we should be thankful for his contribution to Sri Lanka's new SLAF bases. Of course, we are thankful to ZTTE for the latest SLNS-Manthota at Vidathalthivu. I would like to expresss my hearfelt gratitude to Bahirav (fake or real), thiru, shyam, upul, revy, STD, Wiyajapalan for their contribution towards the future of Sri Lanka. once again, that you all the LTTE blog terrorists.

Sam Perera said...

konappu,

By your avatar and call sign, I suspect that you have a connection to one of old Kandyan aristocratic families who fought many valiant battles against invaders. As for me, I am half Portuguese.

Anyway, we should not ignore the possibility of ZTTE using these machines for real bunker building.

Konappu Bandara said...

[By your avatar and call sign, I suspect that you have a connection to one of old Kandyan aristocratic families who fought many valiant battles against invaders. As for me, I am half Portuguese]
Sam, we can all be proud of our ancestors who kept the flame of our nation alive through very trying times facing vast armies and naval armadas of several European powers. We should be proud of both up-country and low-country patriots who have kept our nation and culture alive with acts of bravery and gallantry. I can say with certainty General Sarath Fonseka, a patriot from low-country, would be sitting comfortable at the same table with smart and brave generals from King Dutugamunu's, King Parakrama Bahu's, or King Wimadharmasurya's armies.

Cheers!

Bhairav said...

[As for me, I am half Portuguese.]

Sam Perera,

You know that Portuguese was the worst colonial power of all? If you are not sure about it, ask Brazilians. I used to have chat with few Brazilian girls in my campus resident life, they used to talk about many things, of them, one was what Portuguese did to them in their colonial times. If you are half-Portuguese, anal sex will be the core item in your sex menu.

---cheers from not so fake bhairav---

Shan said...

ruslan

thanks. that clip negates what i said,

wijayapala said...

My dear Sam Perera,

"I would like to expresss my hearfelt gratitude to Bahirav (fake or real), thiru, shyam, upul, revy, STD, Wiyajapalan for their contribution towards the future of Sri Lanka. once again, that you all the LTTE blog terrorists."

And I would like to thank *you* for being such a delightful Modaya that you cannot even tell who is pro-LTTE and who is anti-LTTE. DW wouldn't be the same without such entertainment.

"As for me, I am half Portuguese."

Yes I'm familiar with your ancestor- Vasco de Modaya Perera, who set sail for Brazil because no girl in Portugal wanted to get stuck with a Modaya. de Modaya Perera however got lost (went east instead of west) and landed in SL. There he joined the army of King Vimala Dharma Suriya because he mistook the Sinhalas for Portuguese (you are clearly the direct descendant of this Modaya dear sam).

Sam Perera said...

Bahirav,

After years of assimilation to the main stream, I am very Sri Lankan now. My Portuguese ancestry is for the name sake only. Regardless of my ancestry, I am a proud Sri Lankan who will stand for a united Sri Lanka.
One thing you should know is that some of my ancestors took over Jaffna area of Ceylon along with many of the coastal areas. To some reason, they were very much into colonizing Jaffna than any other part of Ceylon. They saw the need to civilize the people in Jaffna by introducing religion and education so that they can be as civilized as the rest of Ceylon. My ancestors, however was never able to subjugate Sinhalese altogether. They proved to be a force to reckon. Back in Jafffna, my ancestors introduced Catholicism along with some good schools. Also they had lots of interracial sexual relationships with primitive women in Jaffna, inadvertently making offsprings. Some of them were decent women and my ancestors married them. I have to admit that some of the Portuguese had the desire for the type of pleasure you are talking about. However, sometimes they go off the track causing unwanted pregnancies. Those offsprings become bastards without a father to take care of them. After the onset of the current conflict, it is rumored in the Portuguese-Sri Lankan circles that Velupillai Prabakaran is a decedent of one of those bastards.

Sam Perera said...

Oh Wijyapala(n), I knew who you are always. Your reply is a good conformation of it. Please read my reply to Bahirav for more information about my ancestors.

Sun Tzu's disciple said...

"As for me, I am half Portuguese."


Then...

"However, sometimes they(Portuguese) go off the track causing unwanted pregnancies(with Ceylonese). Those offsprings become bastards without a father to take care of them."

P-a-t-h-e-t-i-c complex.
You dont have to demean yourself so much to fit in with the crowd . There is no shame in being born of mixed parentage.

Sam Perera said...

STD

"P-a-t-h-e-t-i-c complex.
You dont have to demean yourself so much to fit in with the crowd . There is no shame in being born of mixed parentage."

Keep going. I am listening.

Sam Perera said...

STD,

I am a recent mix between a Portuguese father and a Sinhala mother. There is no issue of parentage here. I am a very proud Sri Lankan. That is all matter to me.

wijayapala said...

Hi Sam Perera,

"Oh Wijyapala(n), I knew who you are always."

Hey now, let's not get ahead of ourselves. A Modaya is a Modaya and shouldn't go around claiming that he "knows" things. If your ancestor came to the wrong island then what can we say about the descendant.

"Please read my reply to Bahirav for more information about my ancestors."

Yes thank you very much for jumping in where I left off. King Wimala Dharma Suriya got sick of this Vasco de Modaya Perera and this latter went to Jaffna to try his luck with the Tamil ladies (since no Sinhala girl would get 10 feet near him). Being a Modaya, he got stuck into a water buffalo (don't ask me how this happened, but to give a hint he got confused as Modayas usually do) that eventually wandered back down south to Kalutara. de Modaya and this lovely water buffalo had a wonderful child which they proudly named Sam.

Sam was very lucky having two parents- a Modaya and a water buffalo to teach him how to be a proper jackass. I can see why you are so proud and even flaunt this background to bhairav and STD.

I know you look down on me because I am not a Modaya like yourself. Even if I tried very hard to be a Modaya there is no way that I can match your illustrious pedigree. But just because I am not a Modaya does not mean that I am not Sinhala. Most Sinhalas are not Modayas although the Modayas always find their way to the internet and these blogs.

In any case be proud to be a Modaya Perera. Bhairav is jealous because he did not inherit such a native Sri Lankan name the way you did. Just ignore him and please be my Modaya guru.

wijayapala said...

STD,

"P-a-t-h-e-t-i-c complex.
You dont have to demean yourself so much to fit in with the crowd . There is no shame in being born of mixed parentage."

I don't think that you as a non-Sri Lankan fully realize that you are conversing with a Modaya. This Modaya asked you to "keep going" because he did not understand anything you said above. He is waiting for you to say "son of whore" or similar low-class language that his Modaya mentality will understand.

kuttu said...

Hey guys,

See how wijayapala has got upset when mohammed called Charles as PONNA Charles in Defence Net.


PONNA wijayapala says

"Correct me if I'm wrong but Thalaivar Jr.'s name is Charles Anthony Prabakaran. If "Ponna" is not really Jr.'s name then I can presume that your name isn't the same as the Islamic terrorist scumbag. I'm game if you want to make fun of Jr., but it doesn't help to use anti-Tamil crap in the process."

PONNA wijayapala

Why are you so worried when mohammed called Charles as PONNA Charles. You PONNA wijayapala, I think the best treatment for you worries is RED BIRD treatment, go to your Hon. VP he will give you a real RED BIRD treatment. Then you will able get a relief from your worries but definitely there will be pain in your ASS.

Bhairav said...

[I am a recent mix between a Portuguese father and a Sinhala mother. There is no issue of parentage here. I am a very proud Sri Lankan. ]

Sam,

Half breed like you claim as proud Srilankan, how should I feel like when my ancestors were from Chola empire? LOL!

You are not alone,Sam, I tell you something which will make you feel better. Have you heard a place called "Punkudutivu" which is 9 miles from Jaffna fort? If you compare Punkudutivu Tamil women to other village Tamil women, Punkudutivu women look better- The reason for that,some say,Portuguese used to stay in Punkudutivu where later on many early age pregnancies happened among Tamil women without marriage, may be, they inherited the Portuguese character in them. What you inherited from Portuguese is loose head- not so loose- micro loose. LOL!

TropicalStorm said...

Actually, the new runway is for the SLAf extraction teams that will be going into bring Hon.Velu, son and holy goat.

Hon.Velu is to be exiled with all perks and without prosecution as he has decided to give up the nasty war.

The conspiracy goes deep; Under the agreement, Velu is to commit LTTe cadres into wasting confrontations so that the LTTe is gradually diminished. The die hards who are most likely to get in Velu's way have been fed to the LRRP and Velu's or Pottu's hit squads. Secondary tier systematically decimated, as the govt deal and Velu's own security concerns demanded.

Once the dust settles, the remaining LTTe apparatus is tobe turned into a political movement, with Charlie boy as 'chief minister'.

The Norwegians had a different idea. They didn't like the idea of Velu's son taking the reigns, since he was not credible enough, and too savvy with western ways, so unlikely to be manipulated to dance to the Norwegian tunes. Instead, they insisted on tamilChelvan taking that exalted seat. Adios TC..!

Just kidding. We'll kill the bastard, given half a chance..

TropicalStorm said...

bhairav

I've seen similar stunners in Goa in South India. I met this Indian girl of mixed parentage, a college student, many years ago while on a tour in that area. She was exquisite and had green eyes. The Portuguese- mixed people are very good looking.
Later my mother found a letter she sent me saying how she met a much nicer guy and why she disliked me so much, because she finally figured it all out..that I only wanted her body.....
[Note to my wife: this was a long...very, very, very long time before i met you, honey...never looked at another woman ever since...y'know]

TropicalStorm said...

There is a high likelihood of a heavy attack on the Mannar front, to cut off the strike force heading northbound, before it reaches and consolidates Pooneryn.

The LTTe needs to dent the cutting edge, the elite forces of the SLA to slow down the operations and may very well sieze this opporunity. SLA needs to watch out.

Bhairav said...

[I've seen similar stunners in Goa in South India. I met this Indian girl of mixed parentage, a college student, many years ago while on a tour in that area. She was exquisite and had green eyes. The Portuguese- mixed people are very good looking.
Later my mother found a letter she sent me saying how she met a much nicer guy and why she disliked me so much, because she finally figured it all out..that I only wanted her body.....]

TS,

Yes, you are right about them. Many of them have nice #4 soccer ball size ass, tan skin with good facial features. You know why most of Brazilean women are hotties who often mixed of Portuguese,Lebanese,Germans etc.

Well, speaking of pretty women, every community has fair share of them. When I used to live in Quebec, I found french were hotties, then in Texas it was Mehicano(Mexican women) and South American women etc.

Shan said...

TS
There is a high likelihood of a heavy attack...

there's probably one when you get home, you need to take care when you reveal your past mate....

mboi said...

great news from weli-oya front. 59 has finally broken through to the nayaru lagoon. this area is like the viddathalthivu of the east. map at army website.

http://www.army.lk/morenews.php?id=15287

Panhinda said...

/*
Four buildings with area of about 1250 sqm, one hundred underground bunkers, thirty five lavatories,
*/

Newly captured LTTE camp has many toilets. The Tiger crouches for one thing, and one thing only - shitting.

Panhinda said...
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Virus alert said...

the government has finally started it.hope this type of work continues!!

http://www.sundayobserver.lk/2008/08/17/pol01.asp

Achilles said...

:::Hot News:::
LTTE's 'Jeevan Base' falls to Security Forces- Welioya
watch now.

Mohammed said...

@ Wijeyapalanthan:

By going on the rampage againts me, you have shown your true colours, i.e, black stripes on an orange background. You worked hard to build up your credibility as a Sinhala, and at one point I almost believed it. Now with that one post, you have covinced me and the rest about your true identity, i.e. Dieasspora shit VP ass licker.

To Kaati: apologies for calling Charles Ponna. I am sure that you will understand how one feels when his extended family were driven from their homes and some went to work and never returned. We forgive you now, but the sentiment still remains. I feel very sorry for poor Tamil village boys being used as cannon fodder in the front lines.

For Wijeyapalam: I checked with my Sinhala friends and they said Wijepala or Wijeypala is Sinhala, they said Wijaya is distinctly Chola and Tamil. They even said Wijeypala or Wijepala has not been used as a first name since the 19th century (a slight exaggeration) and no mother would be demented enough to give you a "goday" name like that. Smoked you out bloody peelamist didn't we? You couldn't even find a convincing Sinhala sounding name to post as your dieasspora brain is clouded in peelamist BS.

PS, not every Muslim is Taleban. We enjoy the occasional drink, ham and pepperoni pizza and the odd visit to "massage" parlours.

priyashantha said...

Dear Wije (Wijepala aka Wijayapala),

I thought my hard medicine had worked on you when you stopped calling people "Sinhala modayas". Again I was mistaken.

You called mohommed a Taleban because he is a Muslim! How pathetic? ALWAYS you think along racism! Shit!!

Anyway you failed to answer my questions.

Wije, can't you think without racism? I bet you can't. If you can't, please seek medical attention.

There is absolutely no reason for you to get so madly pissed-off just because Charles Anthony was called whatever, unless you are a LTTE supporter.

LKDOOD said...

new reports of heavy fighting in the north

what is going on is unclear

anybody hearing anything more ?

MoratuSaman said...

1000 LTTE Gals getting ready to attack SLA front lines -

MR - GR - SF Bang war news (means Moona Wahala Gahanawa)

I love the way GR and SF doing the amazing job.

final result is Tamil-Ltte Less Srilanka = peace.

ohoma yan...thawa pod..die.

wijayapala said...

My dear Modaya-hammed,

If you really want to make an ass out of yourself, you should do so in just one blog and not two. You don't know anything about Sinhala names, which is ok as most Muslims I've met in Colombo don't know much Sinhala (one poor hotel boy gave me directions confusing vam paetha with dakunu). If you'd like to learn about us, you should ask nicely.

Danushka said...

Mohammed

you eat ham ?

Aus said...

Pakistan has sent to Sri Lanka a large quantity of ammunition from its ordnance factories and reserves to finish off the Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam (LTTE) in the final phase of Eelam War IV, according to the independent Colombo-based weekly newspaper, The Sunday Leader.

Long live PAKISTAN!

Sam Perera said...

aus,

We have to cover our friends in difficult times also, just like they cover us.

Amma Gahai/Gahawi said...

Guys, I am shocked with the crap u guys writing about race and mix-race. I am bit disappointed about Wijayapala lowering his standards too low. I still think Wijayapala is a genuine as he says and I am fascinated by some of the posts by kaatikuddupaan it opens up whole new world/ experience for me and wish we (kaati) can share a beer so u can tell me few stories/facts about ur past.

Mohammed, ur a ripper! I love ur explanation of moderate life.. ha ha count me as a brother!

About the race thing, I know u guys are proud about ur race and all. But do u think the "Pure Bread" is a good thing? It is not! Have u ever heard of the pygmy race found in Pacific Island like Papua New Guinea ?? The scientific explanation is " The researchers believe that the extremely small size of the first Palauans was due to the limited food items, tropical climate, lack of predators, a small founding gene pool and isolation.

"Pure bread " ( like Hitler wanted) lacks the "gene pool" and "isolated" and won't be advancing but will extinct soon! So, think again all u die-hard Sinhala only, Tamil only and Muslim only ur race is still advancing because u r race is already mixed with other races and got a big gene pool that will make u survive the wild! Only the strongest will survive! So, if ur alive then ur mixed my brothers!

Some time I wish I am mixed and got a special gene like the "X-Men" guys got. So I can go invincible/jump to VP's bunker and give him a surprise "BOOOO" that will make him shit in his pants! Ha ha wouldn't that will be awesome??

Bhairav said...

Omar Abdul Mohammad forced his 13 year old daughter to marry Assithiri who promised Mohammad that he will pray 5 times a day in return. LOL!

May be our Mohammad in this blog follows the footsteps of former Taliban leader,Mohammad, who forced his daughter,age 17 then, as 3rd wife of old fart Osama Bin Laden whose age was late 40s that time. Well, when Prophet Mohammad set the record straight as pedophile by marrying Aisha who was only 9 years old that time, why can't the old Muslim men rape toddlers?

Ranil said...

guys
SLAF crafts have a manual override option for their ECM's...
I was told by an SLAF guys that our gunship pilots fires these flares manually as a precaution when flying over tricky areas...
Even USAF gunship pilots in iraq was doing the same...
Some large aircraft too fire flares manually when they are on approach for landing etc...

Parakrama
about the runway being expanded story... maybe it's psy ops to keep up busy watching that area...or maybe it's to get a larger craft like a hercules or certain antonov transport aircraft that can land in dirt runways...
maybe this might be used for extracting a big wig ltte'r or maybe they are awaiting supplies...something like SAM's??
A c130 or similar plane can touchdown and drop off cargo with a chute and take off within a matter of minutes...

C130 dirt landing
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bv_t1jjM7UM

C17 dirt landing
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=diX3x6ffvSA&feature=related

Bhairav said...

[Mohammed, ur a ripper! I love ur explanation of moderate life.. ha ha count me as a brother! ]

Amma Gahai/Gahawi(wtf id is this?),

The all Sinhalese will become sisters and brothers to phedophile Muslims in 10 or 15 years as you have already lost 1M Sinhala women to ME allah fuckers. Well, losing the women into another Race has more impact than losing the men- ask any historian. Oh Amma Gahai,you should start female genital mutilation and male circumcision on your kids- Oh Allah you are great,thanks for giving me the license to fuck from goat to toddlers- if my lust still not fulfilled, i can mutilate the girl's vagina,oh allah..

priyashantha said...

Wijayapala shows he is the modaya.

He says, "most Muslims I've met in Colombo don't know much Sinhala (one poor hotel boy gave me directions confusing vam paetha with dakunu".

Wijayapala, you know Tamil very well. You even translated some Tamil news items for us.

Then why did you ask directions from the "poor Muslim boy" in Sinhala? So aren't you the Modaya now?

BTW I assume that "paetha" means "paeththa"?? I pity that "poor Muslim boy".

As Wije himself says, "If you'd like to learn about us, you should ask nicely."

That "poor Muslim boy" got all confused when our Wije asked about "paetha" instead of "paeththa"! May be he thought Wije was calling him "kaetha" (ugly) when he said "paetha"!

priyashantha said...

Bhairav,

"female genital mutilation"

I'm sure you come from a mutilated vagina or a mutilated asshole!!

Your support for Wijayapala and your hatred for other communities show that.

Jack said...

"new reports of heavy fighting in the north"

Where are these reports mate? I miss your links from before ;)

All I saw was something in Tamilnet about fighting in Kilali I think, nothing anywhere else?

Shan said...

priyashantha

not to worry too much about wijayapala, every post contradics the other. someone askedhim 'what bridge he wants to cross' in this blog, don't think he understood that either.

these are various ruses to distract,if not why does this guy just like the others latch on to any discussion on the blog and take it to a different sphere.

Pulutta said...

all defence columns in one place

http://lkdefencecolumns.blogspot.com/

Updated with the latest......

Mohammed said...

Dhanushka,

Yes I eat ham. In the country that I live, people have a live and let live attitude. You tell me how can you resist a ham and pepperoni pizza with jalapeno peppers???!!! Its criminal to refuse, absolutely criminal! Wijeypalam and Bhairav have a convoluted view of Muslims, they think we are all bearded, turban wearing Mullahs who live in caves and fuck goats and commit incest. I just happen to born Muslim.

Malin said...

Hmmm Soooo quiet...

Panhinda said...

I hope adequate planning has been put into contingencies. The cleared areas must be secured properly. Its inefficient and unnecessary to station large numbers of troops just for sentry duty. Instead, a contingent of appox 4000 troops must be on standby at any given time to be rapidly deployed for rearguard action. Its doubtful if strength of LTTE diversionary attacks will exceed 2000 carders. The likely scenarios must be acted out as drills and in exercises so that troops know what to expect.

thambala said...

Obama Campaign Accepts Funds from Pro-LTTE Donors?

check here

thambala said...

Sri Lankan IGP interdicts 2 policemen for not checking UNP MP
[TamilNet, Monday, 18 August 2008, 10:32 GMT]

The Sri Lankan Inspector General of Police Sunday interdicted a police constable and a police sergeant on a report that they failed to conduct search on the vehicle in which UNP parliamentarian Dr.Jayalath Jayewardene was traveling to Madu to attend church festival held on August 15.

Jayalath Jayewardene had traveled to Madu via Madawachchi sentry point with the police escort provided by the Sri Lanka Police.

Jayalath and his vehicle were not subjected to check at the Madawachchi sentry point by police personnel. This matter was immediately brought to the notice of the police hierarchy, sources said.

Panhinda said...

http://progressivetamilsforobama.com/Proposed%20Solutions%20for%20Tamils.html

Panhinda said...

http://progressivetamilsforobama.com/Why%20the%20US%20needs.html

/**
The Chinese are cultivating a mutually beneficial alliance with the Singhalese majority government in Colombo. As China grows in strength and assertiveness, the US might find it beneficial to have friends in the Tamil portion of the island. The Iranian government is also forming mutually beneficial ties with the Colombo government. Iran has been a notorious sponsor of anti-American terrorism throughout the world for decades. Having a friendly and helpful government (to Iran) in Sri Lanka will only make Iran’s efforts easier. That is another reason the US could benefit from a friendly relationship with the Tamils.
**/


So becos China is friend of 'Singhalese majority government', US should make friends with 'Tamil part of island'!! There is some hilarious thiking by these reratds. I dunno, but these fools seems to be going through some serious dumbing down.

thambala said...

Pervez Musharaff announces his resignation.

Is this going to have an effect on us?

http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/08/18/asia/19pstan.php

Achilles said...

Shining Prabakaran:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=itOLvj6JD_I

assasinrajive said...

40000 tamil refugees sleep under trees in mulathive ,whilst thalivarr daughter go all night clubbing in London-Soho!
500000 tamils just made refugees by lttp whilst charly-boy-an-"thong" ply his ps3 game in privert bunke!!
tamil podiyance dying in 100`s due to lack of medicine whilst madivathee shop on line at harrods.co.uk ,!!

assasinrajive said...

..lttp kill tamils podiyance by sending them to fight as-army!!

lttp make tamils refugees in their peeelarm.!

assasinrajive said...

"thalivarr the scholar lost his home in walwatithurai to sl-army, since then he develop a kind of jealousy towards to the people with home/house, so he keep chaise tamils out of their homes ans houses and made them refugees in peelaam!! he force tamils to live out in the open until he liberate his own home from sl-army!!

assasinrajive said...

lttp leader cant liberate his own home from sl-army yet he keep promising this dying podiyance home land peelam..!
podiyance should demand thalivarr to free his own home first before sacrificing tamil youth.!!

assasinrajive said...

whilst thaml youth dying in 100`s in sakkilinochch bankers thalivarr the scholar shops online at Harrods dot com.!!

Tharanga said...

assasinrajive: What are you trying to say? Can you please be a bit more lucid? What you are doing amounts to flaming.

Tharanga said...

Panhinda,

What these dieasspora shits haven't realised is that the US has conferred "most favoured nation - MFN" to China ever since I can remember. US is the best friend of China, any efforts to piss China off would not go through the US congress. Remember US does not recognise Taiwan to please China. Any idiot who thinks they can sour Sino-US relations is up for a rude awakening.

phaedrus said...

Tharanga,

I also think it is extremely unrealistic that USA will support a minority that is living in peace in a democratic Sri Lanka to get an advantage over the Chinese. That is so last century (and British). USA doesn't have that much of a reputation to loose these days by stupid acts like that, because Bush has spent all that they had. Anyway, such action would cause problems with India with their Tamilnadu issue.

The only likely option for them is to outinvest(out-bribe) the Chinese in Sri Lanka, which would be a good thing for us, as long as it is controlled properly. Even if their government doesn't bother at the moment, once the investment potential in SL goes up, their private sector will influence their foreign policy with us... which would give priority to the growth potential with economic and political stability.

On a different note, does anyone know the reason that the progress of the TF2 and 56 seems to be very slow. They don't report about any major conflicts but they also doesn't seem to move much. I would think more pressure from those two would make the LTTE thin out some more.

It also occured to me with 59 marching completely through the jungles, whether there are any chances of things like wild fires that LTTE can deliberately start. I don't know whether this is a realistic worry but better to keep in mind.

Also, does anyone know whether we completely destroy all those bunkers and underground complexes we find?

Panhinda said...

Tharanga,

To think US would establish links with "Tamil part of the island" at the determent of their relationship with BOTH GoSL and China is beyond childish. What do they have to offer? Training on terrorism, credit card fraud and gun running? But then, this is how these fools think.

Gringo said...

[WELIOYA: In the areas north of JANAKAPURA and ABHIMANPURA in the WELIOYA sector, troops continued with their search and clear operations after troops dominated their positions.

Six hundred and twenty-nine (629) anti personnel mines, thirty-one (31) Improvised Explosive Devices (IEDs), one pressure mine, one IED, one wire roll, one field dressing, food items, water cans and some LTTE personnel belongings were among the recovery made on Sunday (17).
]

Great achievement by our heroes.
Every LTTE terrorist and their killing appratus CAN BE, AND MUST BE FOUND. We should not rest on our past victories... but redouble our efforts to look for the LTTE pigs wherever they are hiding and decimate them in style.

While LTTE coolies day-dream about a guerilla war (he he he), as defence secretary rightly said, our objective must not just fight the terror... but also search and destroy THOSE LTTE COWARDS HIDING IN THE JUNGLES AND BEHIND WOMENS' SKIRTS...

LTTE coolies worldwide coninue to look stupid. Let's also target to make them bankrupt.

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