Monday, November 17, 2008

A ferry to link Sangupiddi with Chava

After staring at it for many months and consequent to the deployment of the SLA's newly formed Task Force 3 (63 Div), the Sri Lanka Army today decided to cross the A-9 highway from the west to the east and capture Mankulam as part of what seems to be an objective to capture Oddusudan and then Mullaitivu. The A-9 was freed from all military operations to facilitate the movement of civilians but the LTTE prevented the civilians from moving out.

The 57 Division, which cleared Adampan and Mallavi went further north via Uylankulam spearheaded by Lt. Col Subhashana Welikala. The same officer was posted to the 63 Division now forming a west to east mobility corridor via Olumadu to Oddusudan as part of TF-3/63 Division. The 57 encountered some resistance in Kokavil last week but are now well set to capture the ground around the Kokavil Rupavahini tower.

The 58 Division, which captured Pooneryn also cleared the area upto Kalmunai Point on the same day, although some sources still claim the area is under LTTE control. The area is completely ridded of LTTE. The Army now plans to deploy a large ferry capable of transporting 500 persons and 5 buses at one time to cross the 4km lagoon from Sangupiddi to Chavakachcheri. Similar ferries were deployed after the Eastern Province was liberated. This will not only ease SLA movements but also open Jaffna to the outside world.

The A-32 has also been cleared and preparations are being made to reopen the road in December. Repairs to the road, including the reconstruction of bridges and culverts will be handled by Army engineers with support from the government's engineering department.

Meanwhile troops from the 58 Division who bisected the Pooneryn-Paranthan road were less than 9km away from Paranthan Junction. Field Commanders are of the opinion that the LTTE would start withdrawing from Muhamalai and Kilinochchi as they get closer to Paranthan. The 53 and 55 Divisions and the Mechanized Infantry Divisions stepped up attacks on the LTTE FDL there. However, no plans have been made to break lose from the FDL. The situation might however change when the 58 reaches Paranthan.

The 130mm howitzers and 122mm mortars stationed in Pooneryn by the LTTE had been withdrawn after the fall of Nachchikuda, sources confirmed to DefenceWire. Field Commanders told DefenceWire that like in the East the LTTE will move their assets around until they get cornered and eventually destroy their own assets or leave them to be captured or destroyed by SLA or SLAF.

164 comments:

Bomb Jack said...

Here I am again. Not a bad start to be the first and the last of the previous post.

Oh boy. Ive never seen this much activity on a blogspot. Not even Zibri's iphone blog can boast such.

Anyways, I am bomb jack. Pleased to meet ya all.

Strangely you all are not on milblogging. With this amount of activity you all will definitely budge GI Joe from his perch.

Peter said...

wishful thinking

mahen said...

We have moved our assets, the 130mm howitzers and 122mm mortars stationed in Pooneryn
To VP’s Rat Hole. Very soon we are going to insert these into VP’s Ass Hole and Fire them, most probably on 27th.

perein said...

DW,
I really hope we have not forgoten the golden rule of "We wont die for ours, Let them die for their's" ?

Consern with the speed !!!

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peter said...

VP (Vezza Pille) is thinking about the pain inside his Ass

Apino Dannachess said...

DW,

As usual, many thanks for the update.

SLDF....keep em running.....with their tails between the hind legs...He he he ....

27th November......Yeah.....Dream on Primates.....Dream on

Defencewire said...

perein,

Have faith.

Sam Perera said...

mahen,

You seems to be suffering from the same syndrome other LTTE die-hards were suffering. One day you are die-hard LTTE and next day you take a 180 turn after seeing some "tactical relocations." Is this the newest strategy of LTTE to act like schizophrenics?

shay said...

Sam,

Mahen is getting the special double treatment reserved for the most annoying sakkiliyas.

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Sam Perera said...

shay,

A lunatic asylum may be a better place for these nut jobs to get treated.

Corey said...
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Corey said...

Top article, finally, on Times of India:

"... Tamil popular culture especially cinema has helped this sub-nationalism gain deep roots in society. The response to the Tamil cause across the sea is not merely sympathy for a people who have lost homes and livelihoods but a deep sense of identification with a people who are part of an imagined cultural nation....

The tigers....have militarised the political space so much that democratic dissent and negotiation are impossible. This political vision, limited to a spatial understanding of nationhood, is hardly emancipatory. An alternative vision of politics is necessary to recover the political space for the Tamil minority in Sri Lanka. The LTTE, which has systematically destroyed civil society in areas under its control, is unlikely to provide it."

Bipolar maniacs peter and mahen: Keep on conjuring up grandiose hallucinations of your beloved peelam warriors... it will help you cope with that anxiety....

........ sweet dreams.......

perein said...

DW-
I do sir. Thanks.
Just want to make sure politics are not behind some of the judgements.

perein said...

Sam P-
Kottiya Kalle Maru kallata.. Pulli maru karanne Naha..
I hope Mahen has started in correct parth.

Apino Dannachess said...

Bro kappetipola

Ref. the other thread.......
I like your idea to down the Zlins using GalKatas.

Here is something better.

Why don't we form a new regiment: MAAU: Madinna (Toddy Tappers) Anti Aircraft Unit.

Enlist all the Madinnas from Vanni to Galle and arm them with AK47, Galkatas, Sten Guns and what not....and station them on Coconut trees (with strict orders not to touch Raaa) during night time.

They should be able to down the Zlins as the birds are known to hug the treeline.

Strict instructions to be given to them to light up the skies as soon as they hear the Takarang noise.

Cheers

:))

mahen said...

You Modayas,

Fireworks will start as we get closer to 27th.

Breaking News (BK)

Poonakari

LTTE strategically withdrew from Poonakari and are regrouping in Paranthan area ready for a counter offensive, awaiting orders from VP (Vezza Ponnaya) to launch counter attack.

Mankulam:

LTTE regrouping in Oddusudan area awaiting orders from TS From Haven (I think you know TS, Tamil Selva) for counter offensive.

Defencewire said...

corey et al,

A decade ago, when we failed (due to lack of a grand strategy and leadership) everyone talked about 'devolution of power' 'cessation' 'tamil struggle' etc. Now, even the tamils don't believe its possible. No one wants to bet on a losing horse! But the bottom line is, like the SLA turned the tables on LTTE, if you are not humble in your victory, we can still lose.

Corey said...

From the Jaffna Peninsula...

"...intercepted LTTE communication indicates that LTTE terrorists were left in total disarray as the Air force fighters made dashing maneuvers pounding identified LTTE artillery and mortar launching pads in the Peninsula...."

Bipolar mahen... in total denial...

... hallucinating, as usual, about a 27th...

...Ammooooo, we are shaking with fright....

Hoot!! Hoot!!! Hoot!!!!

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Apino Dannachess said...

Hi Shay, ref your....

"give them a few days to recover and you can see how gorgeous they are."

Maybe if you're blind and have a fetish for bestiality...

Agree with your mate....Nikang Dunnath Mewanang Epa....He he he....

Chena boys don't like Badu with Rajinikaanth/Perumal look.....

Kochchara makeup dammath e Dial eka maru koranda baha....

Eeta wada hondai Nuga gahaka karuwak.....even a Kehel Gahak...

Cheers

Gongalegoda said...

Bad news for die-ass-pora...Army commander gets an extension !

Mawbimey urumayata kepawemi!
Mawbima surakimi!!
Urumaya Dinanaturu....Yudawadimi!!

mahen said...

From our TamilNut

The SLA attempt to advance, from Vannivi'laangku'lam towards Maangku'lam and in south of A'lampil towards Kumizhamunai, aims to cut off the access routes between Mullaiththeevu and Vavuniyaa, officials engaged in humanitarian mission said expressing concerns on food and medical supplies to the uprooted civilians of Vanni, now densely populated in LTTE controlled Northeastern territory of Vanni.

In the meantime, Sri Lankan military circles in Colombo anticipate heavy battles in the forthcoming weeks as the SLA was expected to step up the offensive operations and the LTTE to encapsulate its defensive region with stringent combat coordination of its Northern, Western and Southern defensive formations.


If this is true what will happened to our VP (Vezza Pille)

Hik Hik (you know Mendisss)

Defence Column said...

# Mop up operations in progress in Pooneryn salient; Air Force comes to troops assistance – Updated with pictures
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Peter said...

இன்னும் 3 மாதங்களில் ராணுவத்திற்கு எதிராக மிகப் பெரிய தாக்குதல் தொடுக்கப்படும்

Apino Dannachess said...

Oh My 27 November.....

This Rabid Primate.....is still stuck with this 27 November thingy.....

Come 26th Nov, this primate will be still barking about 27 Nov....

What is a month for a Monkey....

This is what will happen by 26th Nov.....the Dehiwal Zoo will exhibit the latest addition...to its primate collection....Homo Vannithikus....related homo-pithikus

Yo Saambaru Monkeys

Mahen said...

Yeah yeah yeah, enjoy ID thieves, your joy is going to be short lived. You just don't get it do you?

peter said...

Vஎலு பில்லெ Pஅகய
Pஎடெர் Pஒன்ன Vஎழ்ழெ

mahen said...

Yஎஅஹ் யெஅஹ் யெஅஹ், என்ஜொய் ஈD திஎவெஸ், யொஉர் ஜொய் இஸ் கொஇன்க் டொ பெ ஷொர்ட் லிவெட். Yஒஉ ஜுஸ்ட் டொன்'ட் கெட் இட் டொ யொஉ?

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mahen said...

Pஒன்ன Mஅஹென்

Defence Column said...

Mahen

Your tiger face looks like a kitten to me now... Boooooo....

mahen said...

Sஅக்கிலிய

Sujeewa Kokawala said...

All the good news. I am very happy to see the word Oddusudan. And can't keep silent on anything but Oddusudan :)

More important than the capture of Mankulam is the fact that they have moved some distance towards Olumadu. In my view Mankulam, Kilinochchi and EPS shud not be captured with heavy casualties in us. The three symbolically important nodes can turn obsolete based on the capture of other militarily important sections. Paranthan, Oddusudan etc are such. The fall of the prior should be an eventuality in the capture of latter.

I hope that Mankulam capture was not costly.

Anyway, now we have focus on Oddusudan. Interesting to know how prepared they are for the newest move. Oddusudan may fall even before Paranthan, if they are not prepared.

Several concerns. Firstly, this move to Oddusudan is the first time we are going to be sandwiched. For every move of 57th there was 58th leading them in shore. But there seem to be no movements in either side of Mankulam-Mullathivu road [A34]. And this sandwich model is one failure point of Jaya Sikuruyi.

Secondly there is no cover for the stretch between Vavunia and Padaviya. If the pussycats are well prepared, then they might first attack that line in order to unsettle the operations before taking TF3 on A34.

At the time of Madhu I stated [not in this blog] that the tiger heartland is the surrounding of Oddusudan. That is because most of machinary seem to be around that region. This is a walk right thru. It will bring their do-or-die sooner. Note that they are almost as strong as they were at the beginning of Wanni battles as far as their numbers [strong cadres]are concerned. The prime plan of saving them at the cost of land was to use them at a more important battle.

Being a k/b warrior, my concerns are subjected to the realities of the battlefield. I am sure SF does a good study on enemy strength before attacking. Also I am not only faithful but also amused about the brain power of our commander [specially after the "kade" journey he sent pussycats by putting pressure on Kilinochchi]. Tigers may have abandoned the Puliyankulama-nedunkerni region where there was not much happening. Or there may be hunters prowling for the best harvest in case tigers charge at the dangling carrot of Vavunia-Padaviya.

Fingers crossed, I'm hoping for the best, wishing that our life and soul brothers will reach Oddusudan safely.

peter said...

Sஅக்கிலி Mஅஹென், Vஹெஸிகெ Pஉத

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thiru said...

reports indicate that the SLA has suffered another humiliating blow in muhamalai....there has been the use of a "new" weapon that the SLA did not expect, alot of the sla bodies returning are with extreme burns and no shrapnel or bullet wounds....this is just the begginning modhayas, pooneryn won't be in ur hands for long, the ltte is ready for a massive counter attack which will include new tactics, weapons and maneuvers that was not expected by ur top brass.

Defencewire said...

sujeewa,

Oddusudan is Mulaitivu's GTI (Ground of Tactical Importance). Don't be too hasty in ruling out TF-3 as acting on their own. Just below them is TF-2 operating from Kanakarayankulam. Besides, once Paranthan and Kilinochchi falls, 57 will also turn eastwards on TF-3's northern flank. On the 57's northern flank will be the 58 and perhaps even the 53.

In our opinion Commander has used TF-3 as the first division to turn from the western flank to the eastern flank thus opening up the first mobility corridor and avenues of approach towards Mullaitivu but it will not be along and soon will be joined by others. Let's wait and see shall we?

silentknight said...

the run-up to 27th might show where the tigers do or die counter attack might take place,.....hope the RM70's are primed and ready.

interesting times ahead indeed.

Sujeewa Kokawala said...

DW, thanks for the reply on my concerns. Yeah, a combined move would always save bit of heartbeat for us, than one flank moving right into the cat's den.

Any idea why we have an open gate between Padaviya and Vavunia? What exactly is 56th doing?

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Mahen said...

Defence Column,

Why don't you go back to copying and pasting instead of commenting on my posts?

annonymous said...

Hello DW, can you give me a little insight with latest developments in TMVP camp, the Ragu killing and the tiger moles in the group.

BTW, monkeys have been given the next keyword. "Severe burns but no shrapnelwounds". If you write that for 100 times in blogs you win a used underwear of the super supremo.

peter said...

Mahen

Wait will you, he will past on our ass very soon (before 27th)

Mஅஹென்

Wஐட் வில்ல் யொஉ, ஹெ வில்ல் பஸ்ட் ஒன் ஒஉர் அஸ்ஸ் வெர்ய் ஸூன் (பெஃபொரெ 27த்)

Corey said...

Our friend thiru is in total denial of what's happening in the wanni.. and hallucinating as usual....


"...this is just the begginning modhayas, pooneryn won't be in ur hands for long, the ltte is ready for a massive counter attack which will include new tactics, weapons and maneuvers that was not expected by ur top brass."

Keep on hallucinating pal... ease your pain with empty threats. These wont scare us. Bring on this "great" Nov. 27th...
But beforehand, tell these losers to clear up a few more acres in mulativu forests for peelam cemeteries!!!!!!

Dear all sane people... these 'grandiose' delusions and 'threats' of our bipolar peelam friends will increase as their cardboard warriors continue to 'tactically withdraw' and 'inflict heavy casualties' on the enemy these days...

Anti-terrorist guys...relax... and enjoy these desperate 'squeals' of anguish...from insane thiru, mad mahen and gon peter!!!!!!!!

Tee!!! Hee!!!!!!!!

thambala said...

Thiru Babbled,
"the ltte is ready for a massive counter attack which will include new tactics, weapons and maneuvers that was not expected by ur top brass."

Anna anna Thiru Annaa
Kating dinannata yanawa

I must tell you this is better than a british comedy!

Karana bambuwak ikamanata karanwaa hondai!

Corey said...

Lankadeepa reported a little while ago that Paranthan is about to be liberated!!!!!

........My guess is that vezapillai and the great peelam commanders will flee for dear life very soon, leaving the thousands of poor idiots he managed to brainwash, to die...

peter said...

Thambala,

Thiru won't understand your comment, I will translate it for you,

Tஹிரு Bஅப்ப்லெட்,
"தெ ல்ட்டெ இஸ் ரெஅட்ய் ஃபொர் அ மஸ்ஸிவெ கொஉன்டெர் அட்டக்க் வ்ஹிச் வில்ல் இன்க்லுடெ னெவ் டக்டிக்ஸ், வெஅபொன்ஸ் அன்ட் மனெஉவெர்ஸ் தட் வஸ் னொட் எxபெக்டெட் ப்ய் உர் டொப் ப்ரஸ்ஸ்."

ஆன்ன அன்ன Tஹிரு ஆன்னா
Kஅடின்க் டினன்னட யனவ

ஈ முஸ்ட் டெல்ல் யொஉ திஸ் இஸ் பெட்டெர் தன் அ ப்ரிடிஷ் கொமெட்ய்!

Kஅரன பம்புவக் இகமனட கரன்வா ஹொன்டை!

thambala said...

General Sarath Fonseka gets another 1 year extention!

May that great yodhaya Yakandaawala attain nibbana! You did a enormous service to the country by saving the life of the outspoken general. And LTTE made a huge mistake... by failing to kill him.

He has done the needfull for the army to survive several more generations with his fearless bringig up of the best calibre of leadership!

thambala said...

bomb jack,
This war is unique. I guess it is the first to be fought on ground, sea, air and blogs.

We are the relentless keyboard warriors! Keep tuned and you will find this highly amusing.

Rana said...

DW,

Great story, good progress, marvellous to hear!

Thank you!

Go boys Go!!!

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Selvi said...

Don't worry Hon. Thalaivar has 100+ backup plans. He has always been THINKING AHEAD(TM) of the Chena boys, Moda Sinhalayas, .....

His latest report said that we will regroup and launch a LTTE MAELSTROM(TM) on the Chena boys, Moda Sinhalayas, .... from the deep blue sea after we Tactically Relocate(R) Mulaitivu and Oddusudan in the Bay of Bengal.

Soosai has 10,000 boats ready with 10 million Tiger Marines. Hon. Thalaivar guarantees that it will be 100x greater than D-Day(R).

Already Kollywood has got exclusive rights to make Tamil Sangam II(R). Don't worry we will ensure that all hard earned Diaspora dollars are put to good use.

Gringo said...

mahen-1106

Good to see you are giving a severe headache to Mahen, the LTTE coward.

Yes we can do whatever the Tamil terrorists do better... from faking IDs to giving DDT.

Ritigala said...

@Thambala

It is really great of you to remember Corp. Yakandawala, the great hero who literally saved our nation.

@DW

I kindly request you to run an article in honor of Corp. Yakandawala, including his photograph.

annonymous said...

Some light shed on my current prime headache, TMVP:

http://www.divaina.com/2008/11/17/feature02.html

The TMVP developments are worrying. SLDF should not make them slip out of hand.

I have some faith in Karuna, but not sure whether Pillayan can turn into another CM Wardaraja Perumal.

annonymous said...

And thanks a lot for your comments on educating the civilian tamil forces. Sadly that is not happening right?

Seeing many diff ideas by all here on the final solution, I came up with the following.

No conflict can be solved with all parties forgetting their ideologies. We can tell them to forget eelam, but they have committed their own bro/sis for it. So they will never loose the ideology.

However the realization of ground truth should make them inactive. At the first stage we have to make sure they KNOW that eelam is a lost course regardless they support it or not. JVP ideologies of south were brought to control this way.

After realizing that their dreams will never be, the individuals will take diff paths, some leave politics, some flourish in cunning politics and corruption, some keep on preaching the lost agenda in a peaceful manner whereas some become NGO hookers like Sunanda Deshapriya. Noteworthy is the fact that they will have internal conflicts within these divisions.

It is NOT about purely convincing them about Sri Lankan ness, but convincing them that their tamil superiority is hard beaten. Keep you head down and live or you're shot. That is how a conflict can be brought to stop.

Don't worry the next generation will be "normal".

And within this space we should always preserve the Tamil right for self annihilation. Free white vans provided.

Ruwani said...

[Free white vans provided.]

What about Kelani Radials? LOL!

Sam Perera said...

DefenceWire,

Can you please record outstanding action in the recent operations similar to SF landing in Vakare? During the eastern operations, it was very dramatic to see how Captain Vijitha Alexander held the Kattaiparichchan camp against 500 teras with very minimal casualties. Once again in Vakarei, how an officer broke the deadlock by attacking a vital LTTE bunker but gave his life. These were the moments that turned the tide of the war. I am pretty sure that we had enough stories like these in the current battles. However, they seem to be going unpublished. Then of course a plenty of LRRP missions. Even though they are not significant from the viewpoint of overall operations, such ops are very important in historical point of view. Future generation of our country need heroes and heroic action to exemplify the sacrifices made by the current generations, just in the way we read chronicles today. If somebody doesn't document them today, they will be gone forever. Please record such heroic action in your blog whenever you get a chance.

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Rana said...

Guys,

Vesapille Piranha have done colossal mistakes and blunders one after the other to be in the sorry state as at presently. He committed these mistakes & blunders under false sense of security and hypes based on some temporary victories and gains on SLA and IPKF.

He failed to sort and assess his achievements with fortunes. He tried to exploit greedily all circumstantial friends and environments without honouring their efforts.

He has been luky to get almost all resources, he wants and everything clicked in his favour for a long time.

However, he failed to make the best out of all lucky clicks and breaks he got.

He is now drowning in his own soup which he brewed himself.

So that "The Island" editorial said:

"HOIST WITH HIS OWN PETARD AND STEWING IN HIS OWN JUICE."

Gringo said...

[One of the prorities of Barack Obama is to either kill or capture Osama - News Item]

The young leader must have read between the lines of the policy of the proud Sri Lankan leaders...

Is anyone still there asking us to talk to Velu, the fat murderous pig?

Nope we don't.

They have an option... they can either dance to that stale old song....

'sinhala buddhist... sinhala army - failed state is rich enough - to feed the Tamil terrorists!]

or hold a "Ban Sri Lanka' placard in front of the toilets of international cricket stadiums.

We should never rush in to liberate the uncleared areas... instead maximum number of Tamil terrorists must be overtly and covertly killed... before we celebrate the victory.

The money the LTTE coolies used to kill us... must ALSO bring loads of DDT for them as well.

As a bonus... maximum number of remaining pigs must be divided into smaller (manageable) groups... and instigate infighting and get them to kill their own.

After all there are several tested ways to reduce the growth of these separatist LTTE coolies... Too vivid to spell out here...

p.s. I can hear the complaints of divisions among the "Tamils"... from a prime LTTE coolie named Revy who frequents LNP.... all the way to the Rocky mountains!

Moshe Dyan said...

phaedrus,

from an earlier post.

"However I guess it is possible to encourage establishing of businesses for low tech weapons that the army uses in large quantities."

low tech high volume weapons....

indeed a good starting point. when the "innovation" gives an actual return, that will further encourage innovation. it will not burden the defence budget as well.

Moshe Dyan said...

the palmyrah trees say it all!

yee haa!

but as DW said we must be humble in our victory while TAKING THE MAXIMUM propoganda effect by "celebrating" it.

this war has just begun or at least a new EXCITING phase has just begun.

re:selvi

this guy started by saying "why kill eachother. can we settle this peacefully..blah blah blah"

now he has fallen to the low leel of VEZAPALLA by calling people SINHALA MODAYAS just because they think right.

tamill elamists' sufferings are sri lankans' thrills!! bcos there cannot be both SL & TE. it is either SL or TE.

hemantha said...

"Prabhakaran may go down in history as a failed messiah but his name is sure to enter the Guinness Book of World Record as the person who staged the longest ever tactical withdrawal in the world. That began from Mavil Aru in 2006 and is still on. His boys have covered a lot of ground!"
-Editorial, The Island

click here

Sam Perera said...

One more amazing day in Tamil Eelam. Buildings turned to rubble in SLA artillery barrage, but only one man dies. The people in TE are superhuman indeed.

Moshe Dyan said...

SF's term has been extended.

this man was capable of disciplining and giving a vision to and achieving it through his men is well poised to enter politics after the war.

we must protect him AT ALL COST.

there are many other war we need to win.

Moshe Dyan said...

good one on tigers' tactical withdrawels!!

but better still we could have harvested them while withdrawing. the nutrients of this soil gone astray for decades must go back to it!!! the sooner the better.

Amma Gahai/Gahawi said...

G’Day boys, girls and Primates!
I am finally out of meditation! I have mastered the monkey yoga!!

Victory to the SLDF!

Thanks DW for up-dates!

Boys, don’t forget about Ogre who is doing his noble job of liberating our Sri Lankans from Primates!

The world Primates day November 27!!!

All the monkeys are going to climb up-to the highest tree and jump at once to an open pit toilet on this day! Can not wait!!!! Shit going to hit the VP’s fan!!!!!

Gringo said...
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Gringo said...

[the nutrients of this soil gone astray for decades must go back to it!!! the sooner the better.
]

Well said Moshe...

Blood sucking LTTE vampires must be 'harvested'... to the maximum... OPPORTUNITY! The wailings of the loved ones lost MUST continue to ring in our ears. They did not die in vain.

Also LTTE's existance should be used as a pretext build our country as an 'Israel of the Indian ocean'.

Amma Gahai/Gahawi said...

Count Down on to the November 27:

World Primate’s day or simply Monkey’s day!

10..

Moshe Dyan said...

gringo,

simply love this.

"Also LTTE's existance should be used as a pretext to build our country as an 'Israel of the Indian ocean'."

couldn't have said it better!!

israel is the MOST peaceful, MOST developed and technologically MOST advanced country in the middle-east region (excluding a few tiny places like dubai, etc.).

threats come from outside.

peaceloving countries in the middle east region like egypt, saudi arabia, jordan, turkey have found a true friend in israel.

south asia is slowly but surely turning into another hellhole. pakistan is in deeep trouble. race/religious/caste/maoist/shivasena/etc., etc. troubles are increasing in india......
SL should steer away from it like the land of the morning star.

so far the best example of counter-terror was israel; soon SL will steal the limelight!!

Moshe Dyan said...

AGG,

remember one astrologer said vezapillai will die anytime during november 8-15????

well he was wrong. VP has beaten the stars. but he can't do it all the time.

dear VP,

insulin = insult

don't take it for the sake of TE.

YakadaPancha said...

ළමයි,
මොකක්ද අළුත්ම තත්ත්වය? අපේ අය පරන්තන් අල්ලලාද?

Amma Gahai/Gahawi said...

Moshe, yep , remember that! That was another “monkey astrologer” from TN who predicted that??? Lol

It seems like monkeys are having a hard time on all aspects! Can’t fight, can’t predict, can’t climb!!! Ha ha ha

mboi said...

hi defencewire, any plans to complete the causeway between sangupiddy and karativu? google earth shows only about 250m of sea between the two ends built so far.

Defence Column said...

# Protest after the killing of doctor
Click here

Rana said...

Folks,

Lot of people say LTTP is retreating or withdrawing tactically to fight back with a major attack in place of their choice.

I don't buy this due to followings:

1. 59 is fighting ferociously and only inching forward.

2. 57 is also similar to 59.

3. TF2 also fighting hard with little gain.

I think LTTP is trying their best to turn tables big way in these fronts. However, our boys are holding and killing them in good numbers. While 58 is very successful in harvesting and gain teritory also.

So, logical deduction is LTTP is trying their best but the best is not good enough with the SLA.

LTTP is backbone seems to be fractured, demoralised and confused.

I think within next few weeks we will see the begining of the inevitable end of military arm of the LTTP.

Defence Column said...

# From Pooneryn to the two terror bastions
Click here

Defence Column said...

# The Tigers Die Hard
Click here

Amma Gahai/Gahawi said...

Rana:” I think within next few weeks we will see the begining of the inevitable end of military arm of the LTTP.”

Ur prediction is more rational than that of the monkey astrologer prediction! Lol

Yes, the bubble burst with a loud fart!

SLDF must make sure not let any slip-up’s to happen now. Specially leading to Monkey Day Nov 27, SLDF must be vigilant and extra cautious not letting terrorists to hit back with any major scale.

SLA must be on watch for any flying tuk-tuk and must shoot down if any to fly.

President and VIP’s should be extra careful as a flying suicide mission is inevitable now!

Sam Perera said...

All,

Can you identify the SLA men in these 1993 photos from Pooneryn?

Defence Column said...

# Of the many tactical withdrawals of Tigers
Click here

Rana said...

Amma G/G, said:

/SLDF must make sure not let any slip-up’s to happen now/

to the bull's eye, mate.

It seems, LTTP is trying to protect senior and elite members by sending them to east, south of Mavil Aru. They can do it while child soldiers and junior members are hoding and delaying SLA progress.

If managed to relocate majority of senior cadres to the bush area from Mavil Aru to Yala, we will be in trouble again despite of winning military battles at present FDLs.

This is the only way they can survive to fight another day.

SLN should guard sea routes to the east while SLA should guard land tracks from Mulative jungles.

Navindran said...

Defencewire, can you ask defence.lk
http://www.defence.lk/new.asp?fname=20071213_05 to remove this article.

LTTE Heavily Involved In Fund Raising For Hilary Clinton In New Jersey

"(Guardian Unlimited) Yeah. Do you think that the terrorists hate us for our freedoms, or do you think they have specific geopolitical objectives?

(Hillary Clinton) Well, I believe that terrorism is a tool that has been utilized throughout history to achieve certain objectives. Some have been ideological, others territorial. There are personality-driven terroristic objectives. The bottom line is, you can't lump all terrorists together. And I think we've got to do a much better job of clarifying what are the motivations, the raisons d'être of terrorists. I mean, what the Tamil Tigers are fighting for in Sri Lanka, or the Basque separatists in Spain, or the insurgents in al-Anbar province may only be connected by tactics. They may not share all that much in terms of what is the philosophical or ideological underpinning. And I think one of our mistakes has been painting with such a broad brush, which has not been particularly helpful in understanding what it is we were up against when it comes to those who pursue terrorism for whichever ends they're seeking."

http://www.tamilnet.com/art.html?catid=13&artid=26345
"Yes, we can" Vaiko tells Obama

I mean Obama plus Hillary is too good for the LTTE equals to independence like Kosovo. I do not know whether that Prabha will declare independence now in the speech or by the time BJP comes to power.

UPA regime against Sri Lankan Tamils’ interests: BJP
http://www.hindu.com/2008/10/17/stories/2008101759650700.htm

http://www.hindu.com/2008/09/18/stories/2008091854460400.htm
On two Indians suffering injuries in the recent attack by the Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam in Sri Lanka, the BJP president said he wanted the Centre to spell out its policy clearly on the island nation’s ethnic question. Expression of solidarity in support of the demand for legitimate rights of Tamils was different from supporting the LTTE. When Sri Lanka had no enemies and it was given arms and ammunition, there was every possibility of the weapons being used against innocent Tamils under the garb of attacking the LTTE.

Quite sad that after losing poneryn is such an adrous fashion its taken over without much life loss this time for the occupant. I mean losing 1000 soldiers and getting its back like this is an anti climax. Any idea whether the army will finally accept the MIA are actually dead.

Anyway lets just wait and see.

Navindran said...

I guess what the BJP cannot do is openly declare support. Hence it will give the US the blessing for an indepence decleration in private and in public say we are disappointed with the US support, however it may be the only way to solve their greviances blah blah blah.

In the state level, the BJP will go round telling that they are protecting hindus from prosecution and good example is the break up of a hindu portion of sri lanka.

I guess pakistan got 7.5 billion. Ask them whether the collapsed tea produces can be traded for weapons. I guess its a land grab for Sri Lanka. I do not see how mahindha mama will keep sri lanka afloat. Anyway loot as long as possible.

Navindran said...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bal_Thackeray

Pro-Tamil Tiger Views
Thackeray has admitted that he is pro-Tamil Tiger. He says, "I am proud of the Tigers for the gallant manner in which they are fighting."[27]

He also wanted a ban on the LTTE lifted by the center-wing government.[28]

Writers Pi. Ci Kaṇēcan̲ and P.C. Ganesan write, "The LTTE may not be a communal outfit but it derives a lot of support from the Hindu Diaspora living in different countries. That is the reason why even the Shiv Sena Chief Bal Thackeray came out openly in support of the LTTE."

The BJP-Shiv Sena combine won the 1995 Maharashtra State Assembly elections and came to power. During the tenure of the government from 1995 to 1999, Bal Thackeray was nicknamed "remote control" since he played a major role in government policies and decisions from behind-the-scenes.

http://www.indiarightsonline.com/Sabrang/relipolcom5.nsf/5e7647d942f529c9e5256c3100376e2e/9b470d43e7593f0465256ccc0048aa8f/$FILE/bac04414.pdf

History said...

Navindran,

/*
Vaiko, showed draft copy of a book he is authoring on Obama titled "Yes, we can," and told the Presidential Candidate, that his "dynamism and charisma have touched the hearts of people in the remote corners of the world ..
*/

In Sinhala this is called "Heen nulen gahanawa".. amba kapati.. potha dala karagannda handanne.

History said...

I wish that Obama can see what this innocent looking man have in his mind..

-A Wolf in Sheep's Clothing-

wijayapala said...

Rana,

"On the same issue, LTTP success here and there time to time is due to several factors including CFA.

1. Use CFA to develop their network in south and gather intelligance.
"

We also used the CFA to gather intelligence on the LTTE's support network, taking pictures of people participating in Pongu Thamil etc. Why do you think the white vans got so busy after Mahinda won the election?

"2. Use CFA to procure arms and solidify defences, bunkers, trenchs and earth bunds."

We spent most of the CFA under Chandrika and Ranil dithering, but from Nov 05 to July 06 Gota and Fonseka were very busy procuring arms and getting the SLA ready for war.

"5. RAW trained them, provided with arms, explosives and money for more than 20 years."

RAW provided help in the 1980s but that all ended when Rajiv Gandhi was killed.

"6. T'naadu covertly supplying them money, shelter, arms, expolosives and logistics todate."

Again this ended after Rajiv Gandhi assassination. Jayalalitha as CM was very anti-LTTE and cracked down hard against them. That is why the LTTE hates her.

wijayapala said...

tropicalstorm,

"Even as the CFA was implemented, there was a necessity to restructure and retrain the SLA for a 'final confrontatin' that was inevitable.
It was by the US, whch had already decided on active participation.
"

Rather ironic that the US is not providing any assistance now, when the LTTE is cornered.

wijayapala said...

Mushe said,

"not worth responding to this SLUT-GUARD. same level as mahen, peter."

As far as I know, the only other person here than Mushe who has negative things to say about Anandasangaree is Mahen. That must mean Mushe is referring to himself as "SLUT-GUARD" (whatever that is...)!

CASC said...

November 18, 2008 5:07 AM
Blogger Sam Perera said...

All,

Can you identify the SLA men in these 1993 photos from Pooneryn?

Sam,

Bottom left photo: I believe the person on the right is General Rohan Daluwatte. Not sure what his rank was back then. I believe the Army Commander is in the middle (General Cecil Waidyaratna)

History said...

casc,

That is obvious.. may be it is only me.. I see Gota there too

Rana said...

Wijayapala,

GOSL or SLDF do not need CFA to procure arms, gather intelligence or to solidify defences. We can do those under any circumstances.

RAW helped them after even Rajiv's death, may be ex RAW guys. Some ex RAW officers help them even today.

T,naadu state govt also helping them covertly with money, material, logistics and providing safe heaven for their activities.

In short CFA always help LTTP to achieve its goal.

Therefore, we are opposing to CFA, our support is to eliminate armed struggle completely with its leadership. Untill it is done tamil community will suffer from both sides. From SLDF it is only minor harresments due to tightened security but from LTTP its child recuitmet, recruitment by force, abuse of civilians, heavy taxes and discriminatory treatment for civilians while LTTE members enjoying everything they got.

Even rice 1kg/person, provided by GOSL freely, LTTE members get 1.7kg while civilians get 300g.

Therfore, if think of liberating ordinry SL tamils, help us to eliminate tigers and the leadership.

Anything else is only a lip service to help the terror group.

Amma Gahai/Gahawi said...

I think Navindran seeya suffering from Alzheimer’s! It life and when u get older u tend to get these things. My beloved grand father also suffering from Alzheimer’s. He also repeat the same thing so often even he laugh @ him self saying “I must have said this 10 times by now”! Long live my grand father!

Navindran seeya gets a real kick out talking about VIP’s! He loves big name, I mean really big names! Obama, Hillary, Vaiko, Bakkeray, ect

And also I think Navindran seeya is on Viagra too! he is getting aggressive! He is talking about Climax!

I think Navindran seeya is in love with Hillary Clinton! Good choice, ur too old for Hillary Duff!

AnnBurn said...

"---The only beneficiaries of his(VP) terror campaign have been the economic refugees promoting terrorism in this country and perpetuating her conflict from a safe distance so that they and their progeny will be able to live in clover in the Occident without being sent back home.---"
This is the simple truth. Read more in the Island editorial.
http://www.lankalinksystems.com/directory/frames/newsframe.htm

Navindran said...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/nov/17/hillary-clinton-secretary-of-state

Hillary Clinton plans to accept the job of secretary of state offered by Barack Obama, who is reaching out to former rivals to build a broad coalition administration, the Guardian has learned.

Looks like prabha might hint independence soon. I guess congress needs to be pro american and a BJP that will accept a Tamil Eelam.

Anyway the bloated armed forces is not a wate. The army will turn its guns on the South, just like it did twice.

wijayapala said...

ananda-usa

"The stability depends on how you structure it, and the cost can be offset by utilizing that force in peace time as an economic resource, and endowing the defense establishment with military R&D and training capabilities to generate income to support its own cost."

How will we be able to generate income from a large army???

"Ultimately, its a value judgment: the actual cost Sri Lanka has incurred to date by being defenceless with a small largely ceremonial army, far exceeds any cost we would have borne in maintaining an adequate force to defend our country."

Not necessarily. Our post-independence leaders neglected the military for 2 reasons: 1) high cost of a standing army and 2) the very real danger of military coup, as demonstrated by Pakistan, Bangladesh, Burma, and our very own failed 1962 coup. We spent the money that would've gone to a large military towards getting the best health care and education in S. Asia.

Perhaps a better way to phrase it would be, "the actual cost Sri Lanka has incurred to date by murdering 3000 Tamils in 1983, far exceeds any cost we would have borne in avoiding communal violence."

The flawed assumption is that India is our enemy and must be defended against. India did not intervene in our internal matters until Black July, and will probably not intervene again unless we do something equally stupid and self-destructive.

"What I am proposing, in effect, is not merely a standalone professional defence force, but one that is intimately integrated into a peoples defence force consisting of the SLDA and a National Guard reserve force."

The idea is good on paper, but the reality is that you cannot have a professional military force which is simultaneously a "people's force." You can have one or the other, but the military cannot be both. Perhaps I did not understand your idea.

"The important thing here is to recognize that the top of the list is populated by small countries threatened by larger enemies or by countries with more advanced military technology."

Some of the countries (N. Korea, Syria) are not even democratic. Others like Greece and S. Korea have had authoritarian histories. Syria and Cambodia have generally failed to keep their borders secure despite their large standing forces.

Israel is not comparable to Sri Lanka. Israel had fought at least 3 major wars with its neighbors from its very inception; that is how it is able to field a conscripted force. Taiwan also has a history of conflict with China, that is not comparable to whatever beef we had in the past with India. Any leader who tries to introduce conscription into Sri Lanka on the other hand will be out of power in a second.

"The threat Sri Lanka faces from Tamil Nadu is a permanent one that will not diminish in time. With its 60 million and growing population, Tamil Nadu's influence in India will always trump ours, and even India's own self interest."

If that was true, India would not have ceded Katchathivu to us in 1974, when we still had just a small ceremonial army.

"Sri Lanka need not remain a defenceless pawn in this game; through military strength we can make the option of intervening in Sri Lanka, untenable, nonviable, impossible."

Again I have to respectfully ask the question: at what cost???

Moshe Dyan said...

navindran,

"Anyway the bloated armed forces is not a wate. The army will turn its guns on the South, just like it did twice."

why south??

there are still many more victims left in the north!!

and they have to reverse LTTE's ethnic cleansing of sinhala decendants in the north by peaceful means. don't they?

IPKF tried to do it violently SLA will do it with consent. why pay for sluts and slut-guards (wesa-pala) when it is free. after all ethnic cleansing got to be reversed.

Amma Gahai/Gahawi said...

WOOO HOOOO… Navindran seey’s girl friend going to be the secretary-of-state!!!

wijayapala said...

phaedrus,

"If moshe or others can give an idea (or point to some sources) of how the Israel went about building their military industrial complex, I think some of us reading here would find it very educational."

The first thing to observe is that Israel is a nation formed from immigrants who were mostly unwelcome in their land of origin. Therefore unlike us, the Israelis had a strong reason to support a conscripted force. As immigrants, the Israelis did not have the same problems with land reform/tenure as we do- many of them were poor but the political system was not built upon patronage as ours is. It was basically a society of Western colonists bringing Western education/standards to bear.

Israel didn't have much of a defense industry until it received billions of free $$ from the US.

Rana said...

Navindran,

Your name reminds me a good hokey player during my uni time, but his name spelled "Naveendran".

Anyway, you are just provong from all your posts AMMA G/G is correct about you.

Day dreaming is not good for mental health.

Therefore, if Vesapille is not declaring independance, why don't you do it?

Ninja said...

My latest finding: Navindran is 365 times smarter than Mahen. This is from my latest developed computer program caled stupidfcuk vs dumbfcuk. Ha Ha Mahen is waiting for peelaam to be delivered on Nov 27 - within 10 days. Navindran is willing to wait 4 years - 3650 days. Ha Ha Next time Navindran will write Hila-ry is going to marry Veza-Pillei...Ha Ha

wijayapala said...

Ninja,

"/but SEPERATISM started bcos of .../

/Wrong. The war started in earnest after.../

See!!
"

I'm afraid that I do not see. The war for separatism began after Black July.

"LTTE can exploit ceasefire but a government can't or very difficult."

You and others may be surprised to hear that from the LTTE's point of view, they (not us) were the losers of the CFA.

"Breakinng karuna was not a part of CFA. It was some some handy work of MI."

MI had nothing to do with Karuna's rebellion, although MI did exploit it. Karuna's rebellion was caused by the LTTE's very weak internal structure which cannot survive long without being in a state of war.

wijayapala said...

Mahen,

"There is no time for beauty treatments and make up when our girls are bravely fighting off monkeys like you in the thick jungles. Just bring them out of the jungles, give them a few days to recover and you can see how gorgeous they are."

They may be gorgeous, but not after we pump them full of hot lead.

If they want to stay beautiful, they should surrender like this young lady:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SSQrApEhtB8

Ninja said...

Mala.. My computer program was totaly wrong. Now it says Navindran is (only) 146 times smarter than Mahen. I don't know which one is the wrong. (Earlier it said Navindran is 360 times smarter than Mahen.) Ha Ha

Guardian has corrected thier previous article.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/-2008/nov/17/hillary-clinton-secretary-of-tamiz-pezaam

Hillary Clinton plans to accept the job of secretary of tamiz ezaam offered by Vezapeellai Pra-bra-kran, who is reaching out to former girl friend to build a broad coalition administration, the Guardian has learned. Ha Ha

wijayapala said...

I found the link to David Blacker's ideas of SL military force structure. His ideas are pretty close to mine regarding improving the SLN & SLAF and downsizing the SLA after the end of the LTTE:

http://defencenet.blogspot.com/2007/07/ltte-multi-barrel-rocket-launcher.html

Oshada, I agree that the SLAF & SLN need to be beefed up to face foreign threats as well as preventing support for domestic threats. However, I disagree with you about the propportion of special ops troops to conventional ones in the Army. Even now, our SF component is disproportionately large for our forces (5-6 operational battalions + SBS & STF), where a country like the UK has two operational battalion-sized units (SAS & SBS) and one reserve. The problem is that our SF handles certain roles that should be conventional, such as the amphibious assault and airborne roles. We should have dedicated marine and airmobile units. The SF should only be used for very specialist roles like hostage-rescue and guerrilla/recce ops.

I'm not really a fan of national service. I'd give it a definite thumbs-down in wartime, but think it doesn't matter in peacetime. Most countries that have it, like Switzerland and Germany, have a long tradition of military service, and it's more traditional than a necessity. I've spoken to several Germans who've gone through national service, and most of them thought it was useless. And unlike Israel we're not likely to facce a sudden overwhelming attack that would neccesitate the mobilization of huge reserves.

I agree that in wartime, most elite SL youth would escape the draft (as they did in the US), and also, having unwilling troops in the ranks only weakens the Army. Good examples are the US in Vietnam and the USSR in Afghanistan and Chechnya.

Sam, Switzerland is an incredibly wealthy nation, and well able to afford that sort of a system. As you said, hardware's expensive, and if you want a resevoir of 500,000 troops on call, you need to have the weapons ready for them to use. Switzerland produces its own firearms so that's not a prob for them. Also, that sort of a reserve needs regular training, which also costs money.

A typical peacetime SL Army would be about 50-60,000 regulars with maybe that much again in reserve. That would be realistic.

Lankapura said...

Wow Navindran.. may be Vaiko is influencing Obama to appoint his friend Hilary as the Secretary of State?? Please keep us informed!

Lankapura said...

This is good.. this is what's needed, not people contributing bottled water:
http://www.defence.lk/new.asp?fname=20081118_01

Amma Gahai/Gahawi said...

Rana to Nivindran: “Therefore, if Vesapille is not declaring independance, why don't you do it?” Good one Rana!

Navindran’s Independence Speech:

My dear monkeys,
I am here today stand in front of u majestic crowd to declare…. Ooppss I forgot what I am going to say….. fcuking Alzheimer’s! Hillary honey… what I was going to say?... Oh .. yeh… Monkey Independence… sorry Obama machan…. Just wait till I put my teeth back … it just drop u know… start again… thanks Hillary honey…

My dear monkeys,
I am here today stand in front of u majestic crowd to declare…. Ooppss I think I sh#t ! Oopppsss …. My nappy is full of sh#t… just give me a minute to change my nappy! Hillary honey… where is my spare nappy?? Sorry Obama machan…. I could not hold it…. not like when I am young u know!!! Vaiko, why not drink another Kurumba while waiting?? May be eat a Isso Wade too!

My dear monkeys,
I am here today stand in front of u majestic crowd to declare…. Ooppss …..Hillary honey … what I am doing here?... just wearing nothing but a nappy???

Ninja said...

Wijayapala

/"/but SEPERATISM started bcos of .../

/Wrong. The war started in earnest after.../

See!!"

I'm afraid that I do not see. The war for separatism began after Black July./

Yep, the war for seperation (not seperatism) started after 83, I mean, in that scale. (LTTE killed 13 troops well before the 'black July' and LTTE and other groups have already started military struggle before the black July. Black July just helped LTTE to expand easily their already started project.

Seperatism started probably 100-200 years ago, first in the minds of higher ranked, higher caste, higher educated tamils minds. Some even requested from british not to give independence unless they seperate NE. This is well before the war or 83. You should know better than me - history.

I ll reply to ther parts later.

Asithri said...

According to PTI:

[Apparently, stuck by recent spate of reverses, the Tigers according to sources in the rebel-held areas have sent experienced and senior commanders to lead their forces in defending areas still held by them. Some of the top commanders identified as, Jerry, Muhundan, Kadalparidi, Puhalendi and Sendeer are now assisting LTTE fighters in the Northern battlefront.]

Wow!

Shuffle make-believed king-pins by VP (Vesa Ponnaya): This reminds me of another deranged, totally fcuked up, motherfcuker named Hitler who was doing the same thing when HIS Third Reich was rapidly crumbling down!

LMSSAO!!!

OaO Asithri

Ninja said...

According to my sources its bit different:

/Apparently, stuck by recent spate of reverses, the Tigers according to sources in the rebel-held areas have sent experienced and senior commanders to lead their forces in defending areas still held by them. Some of the top commanders identified as, Col. Thaka-Thiru, Col. Pee-ter Rat-nadu-rei, Lt.Col. Navindran and Capt. Ma-hen are now assisting LTTE fighters in the Northern battlefront, with a special wepon called 'key-board'./ Ha Ha

Asithri said...

[A pro-LTTE website, meanwhile, said the rebels had thwarted a major military offensive at Muhamalai in Jaffna peninsula during the weekend. Twenty Sri Lankan soldiers were killed and at least 80 wounded in the fighting," TamilNet said.

[It did not give the damage caused to the rebels.]

Well, naturally!

It amazes me to no end how these LTTE propaganda sites (aka shits) continue to hoodwink the Tamil Diaspora! Would not anyone think this is all hog-wash given how this false propaganda has panned out since MavilA? Then again, I guess the LTTE Tamil Diaspora is in denial and shows how mentally retarded and imbecile they are! Goes a long way to prove that this totally pumped up “Tamil intellectuality” that some of Sinhelas bought into hook, line and sinker is nothing but a MIRAGE!

LMSSAO!!!

OaO Asithri

priyashantha said...

Good news everywhere except Wijaya-Hapala (muu VP's ge payya hapala).

This sakkiliya is trying his best to stop Sri Lanka develop a good research & development unit, maintain a good army strength and wants to go for another Ranil Ponnaya ceasefire.

I agree 120% with David Blacker he knows best since he had served in the army and Ananda from USA. Sri Lanka needs a sizable army to face the Tamil Nadu threat, insurgents threat, seperatists, kallathoni threat from time to time.

All youngsters should be trained for combat to have a 4,000,000 army that can be called upon if and when needed. Only cowards LTTE sakkiliyas like Wijaya-Hapala are scared when Sri Lanka has a goodsize army.

Phaedruss,
Man, don't give up your efforts on R&D. We need it more than Israel.
If you watch CNN, you will know Sri Lanka faces the same weapons as Israel faces from terrorists. Small differences are there but its the same terrorist war here and there.

Patriots,
kotinta wadinakota ung nam maaru karagannawa. This is how they infiltrate like civilians. Don't be fooled. Listen to what they say. No need to have a big army, very expensive, no need to do R&D for the military, Tamil Nadu is our best friend, do what Tamil Nadu says, ceasefire is a good thing, ceasefire was good for us.

wathura yatin gini geniyanawo.

priyashantha said...
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Rana said...

Amma G/G,

Brother, you are at the best! I am still laughing and my colleagues are looking at me with open mouths.

You did it again, mate.

priyashantha said...

Ninja Ayye,

"Seperatism started probably 100-200 years ago, first in the minds of higher ranked, higher caste, higher educated tamils minds. Some even requested from british not to give independence unless they seperate NE. This is well before the war or 83."

You are right.

Why did Ponnambalam cry at the feet of suddas for a seperate state in the 1930s?

How about the election manifesto of TULF in 1977 that contained TAMIL ELAM with boundaries?

LTTE supporters try to justify the LTTE by saying seperatism started in 1983. Seperatism was in their minds for 100-200 years as it is still in Wijaya-Hapala (VP ge paiya)'s mind

Rana said...

#### THALATHEL RATHRI ####

This is an important day in the de-facto state of peelam. It is to commemorate the day on which tiger supremo consumed the deadly sambaru to save the Peelam from destruction. The mother Madivadini worshipped tiger supremo with great devotion and the Lord Thaleivar by sticking his dick blessed Her. She asked for the benefit of all the zakkiliyas that in future whoever worships the Lord Thaleivar the Thalathel rathri day with devotion, they should also be blessed and should be given the ultimate liberation and it was granted by the supremo with many - many suicide belts.

When Bhanu and Pottu fought between themselves as "who has the balls", Lord Thaleivar appeared before them as the largest dick, they have ever seen. They were not able to find the origin or the end of that dick. This day is called Thalathel day. Bhanu and Pottu repented for their mistake and prayed to Lord Thaleivar for forgiving their sin worshiping the supremo lingum which was the form of the dick. In the night of Thalathel day Thaleivar appeared before them and blessed them with C4 explosives. Devotees pray the Sun God throughout the night of Thalathel rathri firing T56 and throwing hand grenades into the sky.

Every month, second monday is called maha Thalathel rathri. The one that comes in the month November is called Maha Thaleivar rathri.

The annual Thaleivar rathri festival held on the banks of Akkarayankulam at Kilinochchi is one of the most colourful and noisy local festivals of Peelam. The pilgrims keep awake the whole night firing mortars and return home next morning after performing fake suicide explosions.

This year anuual Thalathel rathri will not be held instead Lord Thaleivar will consume another dose of deadly sambaru to save the shrinking peelam from annihilation.

B#1 said...

Navy destroyed 04 Sea Tiger boats damaged 01 during sea battle off Nayaru ..

Asithri said...

[The war started in earnest after 3000 Tamils were killed in a week by govt-backed thugs.]

Oh yeah?

Typical statement from an undercover, Tamil racist motherfucker!

Arsehole…when I was doing my pre-secondary in the UK in the early eighties (i.e. many years before the “black July”) I personally was shown demarcated map of SL, sample of printed currency notes, stamps, etc. of the so called “thamileelam” by some Tamil students and they said they were going to wage a brutal war if need be against Sri Lanka, to get it and everything was coming along fine as per their grand, master-plan! I was fcuking astounded, I laughed it off and called them a bunch of kooks…well, little did I know it was not a joke…

So do us all a favor will you, you know-it-all, SL history re-writing, undercover Tamil racist motherfucker…would you please go an mount your sex-starved, eagerly waiting Tamil racist whore-mother and leave us in peace?

Arsehole…so you think calling our patriot Moshey here “mushe” makes you a bloody “chandiya” here uh? Think again you know-it-all Tamil racist motherfucker…I will personally cut your d*ck and shove it you mouth…get it?

Aha, see the true, hot-blooded Sinhela fury? Sweet isn’t it?

You ain’t seen anything yet you piece of excreta…wait till the war is over when we start to “account” for all the overt/covert traitors!

LMSSAO!!!

OaO Asithri

Asithri said...

Hemantha

["Prabhakaran may go down in history as a failed messiah but his name is sure to enter the Guinness Book of World Record as the person who staged the longest ever tactical withdrawal in the world. That began from Mavil Aru in 2006 and is still on. His boys have covered a lot of ground!"
-Editorial, The Island]

Hema, as usual brother, you make my day!

I am still laughing!!!

LMSSAO!!!

OaO Asithri

Amma Gahai/Gahawi said...

Rana, my pleasure! We need a laugh time to time! Monkeys can’t laugh! Can they??

Anyway, boys don’t start kicking me for this but I got a question to Wijayapala.

This is more for my info, assuming CFA is the way to go when we should offer a CFA? Now? Kill more terrorists and capture Killi and then offer CFA?

If I were MR, then I would do my best to kill or hit hard till VP run to another country before I offer a CFA.

Good to c Asithri with MBRL locked and loaded! Ha ha!! How r u going mate? How is the TMVP babe? lol

Asithri said...

Navindran

[Looks like prabha might hint independence soon.]

No to me it looks like your LTTE whore-mother might declare soon that your father was really a Dalit in the IPKF!

LMSSAO!!!

[I guess congress needs to be pro american and a BJP that will accept a Tamil Eelam.]

No, I guess you need to “mount” a thaangathchi soon and have the “real” thing instead of being the “handy-man” that you appear to be! You are seriously suffering from delusional trauma!

LMSSAO!!!

OaO Asithri

Asithri said...

Moshey

[there are still many more victims left in the north!! and they have to reverse LTTE's ethnic cleansing of sinhala decendants in the north by peaceful means. don't they?
IPKF tried to do it violently SLA will do it with consent. why pay for sluts and slut-guards (wesa-pala) when it is free. after all ethnic cleansing got to be reversed.]

Well said brother!

Yes, ethnic cleansing of Sinhelas and Muslims from the N will have to be reversed – no ifs and buts about it – as WE will make this country SRI LANKAN once and for all!

Place your bets on this promise boys and girls…last call…!!!

LMSSAO!!!

OaO Asithri

Asithri said...

Gringo

[There are no 'Tamils' in Sri Lanka but Tamil Speaking Sri Lankans.]

So said a wise man!

Yes, SRI LANKANIZATION is paramount…it is not only a goal, but it is a sacred duty!

Greetings brother…

OaO Asithri

wijayapala said...

Amma-G

"This is more for my info, assuming CFA is the way to go when we should offer a CFA? Now? Kill more terrorists and capture Killi and then offer CFA?"

I did not say CFA is the way to go. Dumbasses like Mushe, Ponna-shantha, and my favorite Arse-ithri (who wants my dick apparently because his is not so well-endowed) are trying to say that I said that.

My question is this: How will you react if Mahinda declares a ceasefire (not necessarily an agreement with the LTTE) around January, after Kilinochchi is taken? Would you accuse him, Gota or SF of being a traitor?

The LTTE would try to rebuild itself but the SLA would be in a better position, having pinned the LTTE in the Mullaitivu jungles (with the hundreds of thousands of civilians agitating to be freed from the jungles).

On the other hand, Gota and Fonseka might think it's best to keep up the pressure, and I would say more power to them. They have info that we don't.

Asithri said...

Moshey

[the only way to even temporarily distract the SLA now is to offer them free malathi sex.]

Yep, plenty of Palmyrah Ackki followed up with “no-hold-barred groupies” with cleaned-up and perfumed Malathi bitches might, just might, temporarily distract the SLA!

LMSSAO!!!

OaO Asithri

Sam Perera said...

b#1,

"Navy destroyed 04 Sea Tiger boats damaged 01 during sea battle off Nayaru .."

I am not going to believe this until Tamilnut says that SLN was repulsed by Sea Tigers.

Lankapura said...

Wijeyapala, for a self-acclaimed expert on history, your knowledge of non-Tamil history has some glaring deficiencies.
Previously you claimed that Anagarika Dharmapala was not fighting for independence from the British Empire. Now you claim that the war for separatism started after Black July. Looks like your history education was from Jaffna?

Asithri said...

AGG

[Good to c Asithri with MBRL locked and loaded! Ha ha!! How r u going mate? How is the TMVP babe? Lol]

Greetings brother! Keeping fine and as we say in the business, “holding my own”…LMSSAO!!!

Thanks for asking about the TMVP babe…man, she is hot…haven’t met someone like this in a while…so, I am trying to convince my parents that they should give HER a “big dowry” if and when this comes to the “happy day”…!!! Stay tuned bro…stay tuned, things are still up in the air!!!

LMSSAO!!!

OaO Asithri

wijayapala said...

Ninja,

"Yep, the war for seperation (not seperatism) started after 83, I mean, in that scale. (LTTE killed 13 troops well before the 'black July' and LTTE and other groups have already started military struggle before the black July. Black July just helped LTTE to expand easily their already started project."

The LTTE only had 30 members (and about 9 full-timers) before Black July. It didn't have much of a "project" back then and there's no way it could have seriously waged a war against the Sri Lankan state. Likewise "separatism" did not have a strong enough calling to mobilize Tamil youth to arms.

It is unfortunate that Arse-ithri (I don't see why he refers to me as "Arsehole" since his own mother saw fit to name him as such when she saw him after birth) doesn't have a sense of history to understand the beginning of the war. Regardless of what his UK Tamil friends believed, their cause could not have had a serious beginning until Black July took place (in the early 1980s, when the Arse claimed to be in school).

"Seperatism started probably 100-200 years ago, first in the minds of higher ranked, higher caste, higher educated tamils minds. Some even requested from british not to give independence unless they seperate NE. This is well before the war or 83. You should know better than me - history."

This is not true- the notion of "Tamil homeland" did not really exist in the minds of Tamils until 1956. Chelva started his Tamil homeland party in 1949 but nobody voted for him.

Asithri said...

Sam

["Navy destroyed 04 Sea Tiger boats damaged 01 during sea battle off Nayaru .."

I am not going to believe this until Tamilnut says that SLN was repulsed by Sea Tigers. I am not going to believe this until Tamilnut says that SLN was repulsed by Sea Tigers.]

Now now Sam…such sarcasm is wholly uncalled for okay…?

You must learn to be humble like yours truly OaOA here okay…?

LMSSAO!!! Truly LMSSAO!!!

p.s. mate, I loved it! Greets to you and yours!

wijayapala said...

Lankapura,

"Previously you claimed that Anagarika Dharmapala was not fighting for independence from the British Empire. Now you claim that the war for separatism started after Black July."

You're free to disprove me if I'm wrong. The LTTE did not have an army before Black July. You cannot have a war without an army.

As for Anagarika Dharmapala, could you explain how he fought for Sri Lankan independence?

Suwaganak said...

Same house in Kilinochchi and Paranthan.


Please check these pictures on TN

http://www.tamilnet.com/pic.html?
path=/img/publish/2008/11/15_11_08_
kili_05.jpg&width=700&height=468&caption=

http://www.tamilnet.com/pic.html?
path=/img/publish/2008/11/
paranthan_16_11_08_06.jpg&width=468&height
=700&caption=SLA%20artillery%20barrage%20on
%20Paranthan%20suburbs%20on%20Sunday

Enjoy genuine reporting.

Asithri said...

[It didn't have much of a "project" back then and there's no way it could have seriously waged a war against the Sri Lankan state. Likewise "separatism" did not have a strong enough calling to mobilize Tamil youth to arms.]

This is exactly what the filthy LTTE supporting Tamil Diaspora says when they offer apologies for supporting the “Tamil militancy”…!!!

Well said WesaBalla….your true colors are coming out…soon we will see the stripes too I am sure!

Undercover Tamil racist bitch…tell your mother this “Arse” will fuck her Arse better than your thalathel-laden, unwashed, black, oily, Tamil racist bastard you call “dad” ever did…ok?...!!!

LMSSAO!!!

Yes, you are the same motherfucker who went into a spat with humble OaOA about Sarath Fonseka going through a traumatic experience as a child in the East by being attacked by Tamil racists (which you denied) and when you were proven wrong by the patriots here, yes you just slithered away with your dick in your arse…aha, I see you have a fetish…yes, a fetish to get mauled by humble OaO Asithri!

OK, so come to poppa will ya Tamil racist whore-bitch…yes, come to poppa…I will service you!!!

LMSSAO!!!

priyashantha said...

Wijaya-Hapala (velu ge paiya),

O man! I have touched a nerve!

You go on biting people's dicks and when you are not happy with big ones of Sinhala boys you spit the dummy.

Guys, this proves Wijaya-Hapala (praba ge paiya) is a diehard LTTE.

Didn't Mr Dayan say that one day Velu will come from your mouth?

Now you buggers are so desperate that you have blown off your covers. It's too late Wijaya-Hapala (velu ge paiya). Our boys are going to massacre you.

LTTE assholes have messed with modayas - a very dangerous lot when armed with MBRLs. Soon you will find MBRL shells in your ass because modayas don't know how to fire them.

ha! ha!

priyashantha said...

"As for Anagarika Dharmapala, could you explain how he fought for Sri Lankan independence?"

mala keliyai!

muu den elipitama ape national heroes lata baninawa.

Paraya! thoge Wijayapala namatath tho nigrahayak. hapapiya thava hayyen veluge ****.

Guys, we have a super racist here.

Katch said...

Hey, guys guys!
Poonaryn and Mankulam are taken!! Killi almost there,

But, we are fighting! Come on, we are seeing light at the end of the tunnel. Lets look at making the victory count!

Fighting each other doesn't really help!

priyashantha said...

Ninja & Wijaya-Hapala (velu ge ****),

"This is not true- the notion of "Tamil homeland" did not really exist in the minds of Tamils until 1956. Chelva started his Tamil homeland party in 1949 but nobody voted for him."

This is horse shit.

check this out for yourselves.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ceylonese_parliamentary_election,_1952

Tamil Homeland party got 2 seats and 45,331 votes before 1956 in 1952.

Don't believe this LTTE undercover agent. His history knowledge is totally crap.

hemantha said...

"My question is this: How will you react if Mahinda declares a ceasefire (not necessarily an agreement with the LTTE) around January, after Kilinochchi is taken? Would you accuse him, Gota or SF of being a traitor?"

Out of the question, Wijayapala. It isn't going to happen. There is no 'if' here. You may not understand this. The wavelength Gota, Army Commander and the President operates with is as same as an average Sri Lankan (the better term would be Sinhalese. No racism intended) operates with. These are not complex characters. They are simple people who had set their minds on achieving a single target i.e. defeating this terrorism menace. They are not going to waver.
How do I know this? Because I am an average Sinhalese. Both above mentioned people and I myself resonate at the same frequency. Due to this reason I know that there is not going to be any 'if's. I understand why you think there may be some 'if's. But I am not angry at you for that.

hemantha said...

All the men and women who are Tamils, Burgers and Muslims and who are with us hand in hand against these terrorists,
No disrespect towards you is intended by the above comment. All of you are brothers and sisters to me.

priyashantha said...

Lankapura & Wijaya-Hapala,

"The LTTE did not have an army before Black July. You cannot have a war without an army."

Again this is total crap.

Check it out.

http://www.tamilnet.com/art.html?catid=13&artid=20401

"Leader of Liberation Tigers, Velupillai Pirapaharan, took part in a commemoration event held in Vanni Saturday when the three-day long 'Tamil National Heroes Day' remembrance events were inaugurated. From 27 November 1982, when the first LTTE fighter Lt.Sanker was killed, until 20 November 2006, a total of 18,742 fighters have died, all of whom have been declared War Heroes by the LTTE. 818 LTTE fighters, 568 men and 250 women fighters of the LTTE, have been killed in a largely defensive war faced by the Tigers in 2006. The list also includes members of Eelam Revolutionary Organization of Students (EROS) and selected members of other organisations."


Now Wijaya-Hapala has gone really mad when SLA is advancing into his area.

honda honda sellam eliwena jame!!

Lankapura said...

Wijeyapala, you are defining what is the start of the war to suit your own theories. Whether you look at political manoeuvrings or the first attack on Sri Lankan army, the war was initiated well before Black July. To say that separatism was never the motive is laughable.

As for Anagarika Dharmapala, his main contribution to independence was the revival of Buddhism and Sinhala nationalism (in a good way). He created the foundations to create leaders to fight for independence and to rule after independence. There are enough sources to find out more about him - you tell me how he was a happy servant of the Empire, as you put it.

Katch said...

Hemantha,

Agree entirely on the way that we think. An opportunity to finish off the ltte is not going to come round again in our life time. However, the question is whether we will be allowed to do things the way we think is right or the way we want.
MR has the unenviable task of balancing all sides. Especially some folks in the UN talking about the right to protect etc.

Appreciate the way you communicate your thoughts.

Asithri said...

["Tamil homeland" did not really exist in the minds of Tamils until 1956]

Another apology for Tamil racists’ violence from WesaBalla!

Typical of an undercover Tamil racist whore-bitch!

This whore-bitch is trying to say the “Tamil homeland” only came into being after 1956!!!

Here is a brief excerpt from writings by eminent Prof. Nalin de Silva that amply clarifies that Tamil racism and the grand design for a “Tamil homeland” very well pre-existed 1956:

[(February 01, Colombo, Sri Lanka Guardian) Tamil racism in Sri Lanka has entered the fourth phase with the formation of the so called Tamil National Alliance (TNA). As we said last week in these columns the Tamil Hindu Vellala leadership of Tamil racism is no more and now we have the phenomenon of Tamil Christian (Catholic) Karaivar leadership of LTTE, the sole representative of the Tamils as declared by the TNA. The TNA has only one policy in effect. Do what the LTTE tells them.

The first phase of Tamil racism baptised by the British, commenced in 1833 with the appointment of one representative each to represent the Sinhalas, Tamils and Burghers. With that the British equated more than two thousand three hundred years of Sinhala history with a continuous history of Tamils in Sri Lanka that did not extend for more than two hundred years. They also equated more than seventy five percent of the population of Sinhala people with less than ten percent of Tamils.

They had no regard for the unique culture that the Sinhalas had created in this country over a period of more than two thousand three hundred years and as far as they were concerned, that culture did not have a weightage more than that was given to Tamil culture that was nothing but a continuation of Tamil culture in the Malabar coast from where the Dutch imported Tamils for their tobacco cultivation. The first phase of Tamil racism in Sri Lanka lasted till about 1947. The Tamil leadership was Tamil Hindu Vellala and they tried to manipulate at that centre (Legislative Assembly until 1931 and then the State Council) and have political power over the entire country. The Tamil racist leadership wanted more representation for them than for the Sinhalas at the centre and in this they were assisted by the British.

Three infamous incidents out of many during this period were the demanding of a Tamil representative for the western province by Mr. Ponnambalam Arunachalam and the others in 1917, the opposition to universal franchise by Mr. Ponnambalam Ramanathan and the others around 1929, and the demanding of fifty fifty representation by Mr. GG Ponnambalam in the forties. Universal franchise was opposed by Tamil racist leadership as it would have given more representation to the Sinhala people in the state council. During this period the Tamil racists coined the concept of a Tamil nation with a history of more than three thousand years in Sri Lanka. In this exercise as well, they were assisted by the British and were influenced by the mythical history as given in Yalpanam Vaipava Malai written by a Tamil poet who had been "commissioned" by the Dutch. While the Tamil Hindu Vellala leadership in Colombo was fighting against the Sinhalas to deprive Sinhalathva its rightful place in the country, in Jaffna the Vellalas maintained the repressive regime against the less privileged casts.]

Need I say more?

Nice try Tamil racist WesaBalls…go Balla go...your Tamil racist whore-mother is waiting for your "mount"...!!!

LMSSAO!!!

OaO Asithri

Asithri said...

OK that's enough bashing of filthy Tamil racist whore-bitches from my end for one day...yes, I would not want to deprive you fine patriots of your share would I?

LMSSAO!!!

PEACE to all SL patriots...

OaO Asithri

Katch said...

Defencewire said

"But the bottom line is, like the SLA turned the tables on LTTE, if you are not humble in your victory, we can still lose."

Agree with you 100% DW. We need to make this hard fought victory count and make sure that another war like this will not happen in our life time.

An analysis of how the allies handled the Nazis after WW2 would be interesting!

Navindran said...

http://www.lankabusinessonline.com/fullstory.php?nid=1287908339

Which is a PRO LTTE LOVER. Look they say like Pakistan Sri Lanka should seek IMF help. So shameful. IMF will prevent mahindha from having his own airlines. How can the man from hambota be denied this privilege.

"In 2004, Sri Lanka turned its back on an IMF-backed program that brought low inflation economic stability and helped bring the country out of its first year of negative growth following a severe balance of payments and economic crisis."

What a liar, does he imply the LTTE Loving UNP saved the economy and madayan (modaya) sorry mahindha destroyed it. Where is Meryn Silva when you need him for this important task of bashing journalist. Defencewire you should take care of this.

Katch said...

Navindran,

What's your problem? Do u think DW is there to look into the crap that comes to your head?

If you read article on LBO, try to understand what it says before you throw out whatever comes to your head.

Why don't u read "The Emperor's New Suit" by Hans Christian Anderson before you try articles in LBO?

Navindran said...

Another shameful lie from that article

"Since 2004, belt tightening has been craftily imposed on every one other than the state sector through 20 percent plus inflation and high interest rates, while the state sector got fat salary hikes, dirt cheap housing loans and tax free cars and subsidies to prop-up red bottom lines.

But now history is repeating itself. A severe balance of payments crisis is underway, the central bank is intervening and injecting liquidity in a self-destructing sterilized intervention cycle and the country is hemorrhaging reserves."

Lies, Lies, Lies, WE NEED ECONMICWIRE OR ECONMICNET to tell the truth and be unbaised.

Over the past two months Sri Lanka has spent 99 billion rupees (900 million dollars) to make up for foreign reserves spent to defend its peg in a deadly sterilized intervention cycle.

The rupee was also 'devalued' from 108 to 110, but currency defence is continuing.

I mean 900 million dollars equal to 2 sets of mig orders. Lies again. You mean after selling this bullshit about the migs now within 2 months these guys have blown off twice the money.

Navindran said...

Another lie from the same article

By printing and driving up inflation through part of the year when budget cashflows got hit, and tightening policy and borrowing abroad to hold the exchange rate at other times, the central bank has steadily 'overvalued' the currency.

It even partially closed its discount window, bringing the country close to a currency board. Last month the central bank slapped import trade controls, instead of curing the real problem, which was liquidity injections to offset a cash crunch caused by currency defence.

The worst trade controls in the island were imposed during the 1970s, when massive central bank money printing forced exchange and import controls and led to an 'import substitution' economy.

From WIKI

The 1971 uprising led by the Sinhalese Sri Lankan People's Liberation Front, or Janatha Vimukthi Peramuna, was an unsuccessful Marxist youth rebellion that claimed 15,000 youth lives. The JVP drew worldwide attention when it launched an insurrection against the Bandaranaike government in April 1971.

MY GOD LOOK THE AUTHOR IS TRYING TO INSTIGATE ANOTHER JVP UPRING AGAINST THE SLFP.

Navindran said...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1971_JVP_Insurrection_(Sri_Lanka)

"The movement was started in the late 1960s by Rohana Wijeweera, the son of a businessman from the seaport of Tangalla, Hambantota District."

Once a great leader came now after the crackdown an idiot has arisen.

Navindran said...

Another from wiki which said this:

Initially identified simply as the New Left, this group drew on students and unemployed youths from rural areas, most of them in the sixteen-to-twenty-five-age- group. Many of these new recruits were members of lower castes (Karava and Durava) who felt that their economic interests had been neglected by the nation's leftist coalitions. The standard program of indoctrination, the so-called Five Lectures, included discussions of Indian imperialism, the growing economic crisis, the failure of the island's communist and socialist parties, and the need for a sudden, violent seizure of power.


WHEN I WAS READING THE FIRST PART AND HAD WORDS LIKE TEENS, KARAVAS, I THOUGHT THEY WERE TALKING OF THE LTTE!

Navindran said...

Indian army, killing teenagers(of course non were innocent), all were killed by brave Sri Lankan Soldiers. We must lodge a complain to wiki. The author is writting the beginings of the LTTE problem and makes it should like the JVP uprising. I know prabha the karava probabily part of the JVP and LTTE is JVP uprising 3!!!

"Although there had been some warning that an attack was imminent, Bandaranaike was caught off guard by the scale of the uprising and was forced to call on India to provide basic security functions. Indian frigates patrolled the coast and Indian troops guarded Bandaranaike International Airport at Katunayaka while Indian Air Force helicopters assisted the counteroffensive.

After two weeks of fighting, the government regained control of all but a few remote areas. In both human and political terms, the cost of the victory was high: an estimated 15,000 insurgents[citation needed]- -many of them in their teens--died in the conflict, and the army was widely perceived to have used excessive force."

Katch said...

Navindran,

Can I get u a Valium or something that might help u to sleep? Wouldn't want u to fall of the bed given the dreams you're having!

Ananda-USA said...

Wijeyapala,

Thank you very much for raising these important questions. My replies follow.

Ananda-USA:"The stability depends on how you structure it, and the cost can be offset by utilizing that force in peace time as an
economic resource, and endowing the defense establishment with military R&D and training capabilities to generate income to support its own cost."

Wijeypala: How will we be able to generate income from a large army???

Ananda-USA: I said "costs can be offset" using the defense forces to provide services needed for national development during peacetime; but the costs will not be completely eliminated. In a later paragraph I listed some of these services.

For example, the Army Corps of Engineers can build the new high-speed expressways, including bridges, that SL sorely needs for economic development. They can also undertake the development of reservoirs and dams for power generation, flood control and water conservation. They can build the airports, shipping ports, and in collaboration with the navy, offshore windpower and ocean wavepower generation plants.

Today, many construction activities are being awarded in SL to for-profit foreign firms on a build, operate and transfer basis; our forces can provide much of the labor and management services and acquire dual-use equipment purchased for these projects.

The Navy can use its facilities and ships to train our people for jobs as seamen and officers in a Merchant Marine...to make Sri Lanka into major presence in shipping...as the small nation of Greece is today. The Navy can lead the way for us to exploit our strategic location in the Indian Ocean to transform Sri Lanka into the preferred location for repairing, refitting and building ships...work that countries like South Korea are giving up and is going to Vietnam and China today. Trincomalee is ideal for large scale ship building, there is a large Graving Dock there.

The Airforce can help train civilian pilots, foreign and Sri Lankan, both for short-hauls and long-haul international flights. All of three branches of the armed forces can develop training schools for the electricians, mechanics, welders, and IT personnel such as networking technicians, computer programmers, computer technicians etc. A military university-level technical college can be set up for higher level technical traning in each area in addition to the purely-military training offered by officer training schools.

During the last 35 years, for better or worse, Sri Lanka has gained much experience in fighting an insurgency of the worst kind. Terrorism is now a commonplace cottage industry in the world; we can offer training to the armed forces of other friendly nations in need of training.

A military R&D research establishment, utilizing young and older talent both within Sri Lanka and from the Sri Lankan diaspora can be used, like Israel, to develop weapons suited to our needs, so that SL would not have to rely on other countries for weapons or ammunition to defend itself. While we must have our own capability to develop small arms ammunition, RPG rockets etc locally, we must initially select higher-value weapons systems for development that are too costly to buy, but are within our abilities to build, and are profitable to sell to other countries. The Arrow fast attack boats and the heavy armored personnel carriers locally built by the Navy and the Army,
respectively, are good examples.
But there are many other weapons systems, mechanical and electrical, software and hardware,
exploiting the latest developments in solid-state electronics, robotics, sensors, communications and materials that would fall
within the envelope of feasibility for us.

Finally, there are many highly qualified scientists, engineers, medical doctors, and
others, some with specialized state-of-the-art defense industry knowledge, who given the opportunity, would love to help the motherland without remuneration.


Ananda-USA:"Ultimately, its a value judgment: the actual cost Sri Lanka has incurred to date by being defenceless with a small
largely ceremonial army, far exceeds any cost we would have borne in maintaining an adequate force to defend our country."

Wijeyapala: Not necessarily. Our post-independence leaders neglected the military for 2 reasons: 1) high cost of a standing army and 2) the very real danger of military coup, as demonstrated by Pakistan, Bangladesh, Burma, and our very own failed 1962 coup. We
spent the money that would've gone to a large military towards getting the best health care and education in S. Asia.

Perhaps a better way to phrase it would be, "the actual cost Sri Lanka has incurred to date by murdering 3000 Tamils in 1983, far
exceeds any cost we would have borne in avoiding communal violence."

The flawed assumption is that India is our enemy and must be defended against. India did not intervene in our internal matters until Black July, and will probably not intervene again unless we do something equally stupid and self-destructive.

Annanda-USA: I agree with you that the funds we saved from military expenditures were well spent on educating and uplifting our
people, compared, for example, to India which gained independence at the same time.

The prevention of a military coup was never a concious consideration of any SL government. In any case, if the regular force is much smaller than the National Guard, as I propose, it is very unlikely that a coup-de-etat would be attempted. By the way, this is the reason for the constitutional right for people to own and bear arms in the US. A weel armed population was considered to be a deterrent to abuse by an armed government.

At independence our relations with India were so good that we did not feel, quite foolishly in retrospect, that we had any external enemies; so we didn't prepare for it. If we had paid any attention to our own history of repeated invasions from South India, we would have done otherwise.

It was the military weakness of Sri Lanka, the presence of a large Tamil population across the Palk strait, that encouraged the aggression against Sri Lanka, and the decisions by the Indira Gandhi govt (continued initially by Rajiv Gandhi also) to arm, train and support insurgents in Sri Lanka to divert Sri Lanka away from the western capitalist world back under India's socialist thumb sealed it.

You point to the riots of 1983 at the spark that triggered the conflict, but we all know that the insurgents were being trained and deposited on our soil by India itself well before that, and that it took about 4-years of killings and hit-and-run raids before 1983 for the pot to boil over in 1983. The provocation was delibrately designed to evoke the violent response it did in 1983. In the 35 years since, we have not seen a similar event. I can assure you that in India it would not have taken so long for retaliation to begin, as evidenced by the daily violence we see all over
India now on much less provocation. No segment of the Indian population would have tolerated the violence inflicted on us in SL since then.

I strongly disagree with you that it was only the "Black July" riots in 1983 that precipitated Indian intervention to partition our
country. Black July was precipitated deliberately by the Indian government to control Sri Lanka by engineering a situation that would allow it to intervene. The Tamil issue was just a convenient lever to use. Unfortunately, for India, neither Indira Gandhi nor Rajiv Gandhi initially, recognized the Greater Dravidian Nation agenda of their tool, the LTTE, and that the terorism would come home to roost all over India...but that is another fascinating story.

Indeed, India is not permanently our enemy, but as I said, we have little leverage with India in controlling Tamil Nadu or acting on perceptions to its security, however flawed that might be. We cannot depend on "good neighborliness" to assure our safety; we must prepare for the worst and hope for the best.

I am not willing to gamble the lives of our people, and the integrity of our country, on a potentially flawed assumption that
India will always be our friend. India is shortsighted as we have seen to date: it will do what is most expedient for itself at any
given time, and we will pay the price. Our enduring friendship for India as the fount of our Culture, Language and Reliogion may not be reciprocated.

I stand by my statement that the cost of not paying attention to our defense needs has exceeded the cost of maintaining a good
defense. The two decades that followed WW-II, most countries colonized by Europeans achieved independence. In the subsequent 30
years, few countries made as much headway as Sri Lanka towards social equity as literacy, the essential preconditions for economic growth. For example, I remember how backward Malaysia was then compared to Sri Lanka, yet Malaysia is now far ahead of us in
economic development. I believe that we were poised on the threshold of transforming Sri Lanka into an economic powerhouse like the so called "litte tigers": Singapore, Hong Kong, Taiwan and South Korea. In addition to the lives lost, the failure to achieve that status is the true cost of the conflict in Sri Lanka. Instead, our literate educated people are forced into jobs as maids and servants in other countries to be abused and
humiliated.

To me, the prize at the end of the tunnel in winning this war is getting back on track towards creating a peaceful country in which all of our people can live in dignity in their native land. Given the internal and external threats we face, we have to maintain a very strong defense force to defend our country against external and internal enemies.


Ananda-USA:"What I am proposing, in effect, is not merely a standalone professional defence force, but one that is intimately
integrated into a peoples defence force consisting of the SLDA and a National Guard reserve force."

Wijeyapala: The idea is good on paper, but the reality is that you cannot have a professional military force which is simultaneously a "people's force." You can have one or the other, but the military cannot be both. Perhaps I did not understand your idea.

Ananda-USA: I mean a large regular force (500,000 strong) that forms the core, and a much larger reserve National Guard force,
essentially every adult (male and female) that can bear arms. The National Guard will be trained for a short-period every year in
rotation by the regular force, to serve in battle-field units or in supporting units, according to their ages, physical abilities
and skill-levels. The National Guard will be affiliated to the various units of the regular force, and can be called up for service as needed. This is largely, for example, how the Israeli Defence Force is structured. The idea is not only good on paper, but works in practice in many countries I have identified...this is the only way in which the preponderant military threat posed by larger potential enemies can be checkmated.


Ananda-USA:"The important thing here is to recognize that the top of the list is populated by small countries threatened by larger
enemies or by countries with more advanced military technology."

Wijeypala: Some of the countries (N. Korea, Syria) are not even democratic. Others like Greece and S. Korea have had authoritarian
histories. Syria and Cambodia have generally failed to keep their borders secure despite their large standing forces.

Israel is not comparable to Sri Lanka. Israel had fought at least 3 major wars with its neighbors from its very inception; that is
how it is able to field a conscripted force. Taiwan also has a history of conflict with China, that is not comparable to whatever
beef we had in the past with India. Any leader who tries to introduce conscription into Sri Lanka on the other hand will be out of power in a second.


Ananda-USA: Whether a country is democratic, has an authoritarian history, or has succeeded in maintaining security, are irrelevant to the perception by its leaders (acting on behalf of that country) of the threats they face. The only relevant issue here is that they do perceive a certain threat level, and have chosen the sizes of their military establishments accordingly to meet the perceived threat. That is all that I am trying to show in Table 2. How successful they have been in maintaining security, given
their systems of government, and the state of their external relations, etc are additional issues for us consider at the next
decision level. Some of these countries are certainly not good models for us to emulate, but others are. None of these countries exactly match Sri Lanka's situation, but they all share a high threat level, as we do.

Regarding the comparative willingness of Israelis and Sri Lankans to endure conscription, I strongly disagree with you. People of Sri Lanka are crying for leadership on a means of ensuring stability in their lives, and security for their children, and generations yet unborn, without having these issues to be debated only after the horse is stolen. Do we have to fall in the same hole again and again before we learn to avoid it? Look at the Swiss: there is no threat existing on their borders, and they have not been involved in either of the two world wars; yet every Swiss adult is prepared and organized to fight. Adequate organization and preparedness is the difference between countries that survive and countries that die.


Ananda-USA: "The threat Sri Lanka faces from Tamil Nadu is a permanent one that will not diminish in time. With its 60 million and growing population, Tamil Nadu's influence in India will always trump ours, and even India's own self interest."

Wijepala: If that was true, India would not have ceded Katchathivu to us in 1974, when we still had just a small ceremonial army.

Ananda-USA: In 1974, Indian policy had not yet shifted against Sri Lanka. That happened later as a result of Sri Lanka moving
away from socialist policies towards a more free-market economy oriented towards the West. Sri Lankans were tired of the socialist policies, initially beneficial to the masses, that created shortages, unemployment, low growth and unrest in the country. This was viewed by socialist leaning India, aligned with Russia, as inimical to its security. This change in policy began under Indira Gandhi, and continued under Rajiv Gandhi, until after the Indian intervention when Rajiv
recognized the threat posed to the integrity of India by the LTTE's Greater Dravidian Nation agenda. If he had been re-elected, he would have moved forcefully against the LTTE; his assisination forestalled that.

Recall also that India had few, if any, terrorist movements within India then, and never thought their LTTE client would assist terrorist groups in India, and attempt to bring down the Indian Federation as well. The subsequent growth of terrorism and civil discord in India that we see now, was catalyzed, in part, by the LTTE.

Ananda-USA:"Sri Lanka need not remain a defenceless pawn in this game; through military strength we can make the option of intervening in Sri Lanka, untenable, nonviable, impossible."

Wijepala: Again I have to respectfully ask the question: at what cost???

Ananda-USA: What is our nation's integrity and our people's lives worth to you? As you know, the actual number of Sri Lankan citizens who have died in this conflict, often blown to bits by the LTTE, greatly exceeds 100,000. We have come within a hair-breadth of a divided country. By the grace of the Holy Triple Gem, we finally have a few courageous leaders willing to fight with the will and determination required to save the
nation.

Instead of remaining to develop our own country, many of our people have fled overseas and are afraid to return until there is some assurance of future stability. In short, the kind of defence establishment I propose is both necessary and feasible, and we have no other option.

Unfortunately, "if you desire peace, prepare for war" remains a truism in this dangerous world.

Navindran said...

Last intresting point from wiki to PROVE THAT UNP ARE TERRORIST LOVERS. THEY EVEN GOT ROHAN TO CONTEST IN ELECTIONS LIKE PILLIYAN.

"Under the six years of emergency rule that followed the uprising, the JVP remained dormant. After the victory of the United National Party in the 1977 elections, however, the new government attempted to broaden its mandate with a period of political tolerance. Wijeweera was freed, the ban was lifted, and the JVP entered the arena of legal political competition. As a candidate in the 1982 presidential elections, Wijeweera finished fourth, with more than 250,000 votes (as compared with Jayewardene's 3.2 million)."

Adrenaline_Grin said...

http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5i9BnuXmWSLpdxWqdlnBwMp8C16gw

scum bast@rds. hoodwinking the west with their claims of "genocide" and "humanitarian catastrophe" when their very own leaders are using child soldiers and pregnant women as suicide bombers.

Sam Perera said...

navindran,

"Last intresting point from wiki to PROVE THAT UNP ARE TERRORIST LOVERS. THEY EVEN GOT ROHAN TO CONTEST IN ELECTIONS LIKE PILLIYAN."

I tell you this every now and then. You simply have no clue at all about Sri Lankan politics. Your knowledge of SL politics is dismal. Take these 2 cents and buy a boat load of clues. The types of clues you need are very cheap. Before you try to portray the pundit, please study what you are talking.

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