Wednesday, November 19, 2008

Swarnam dead?

Troops attached to the newly formed Task Force 3 that suddenly assaulted Mankulam in three different directions recently claim they have either seriously injured or even killed LTTE's senior 'Commander' 'Col' Swarnam.

A Green coloured Canter truck was observed inside a small LTTE base at Mankulam when troops surrounded the area. A tall man who soldiers have claimed was Swarnam was seen mounting the truck when soldiers opened fire on the truck from two directions severely injuring the man.

Persons who appeared to be the leader's bodyguards were observed running to the leader's aid abandoning several Indian-made motorcycles used as part of the security detail along with the Canter truck. The truck and the motorcycles were subsequently captured by the Army while the injured LTTE leader was whisked away by the remaining members of his team of bodyguards.

Swarnam, a native of Trincomalee, was the one time Special Commander for the east. He was injured during the SLA counter attack at Kattaparichchaan and later appointed to Adampan and then to the Nayaru LTTE command only to be ceded by Jeyam in his last posting.

Due to continuous failures on their part, many LTTE senior 'Commanders' have been stripped of their command and posted to the front by the LTTE leader who still remains in hiding.

162 comments:

MrBrown said...

Very good analyses as usual. Keep up your good work defencewire.

MrBrown said...

DW
''Due to continuous failures on their part, many LTTE senior 'Commanders' have been stripped of their command and posted to the front by the LTTE leader who still remains in hiding.''
what is bothering you... let him hide as he wishes... U want him to come out..and being killed?.. How many bullet proof cars and motorcyel need ur VIPs to travel around Colombo..and how many roads are closed..? 1st see ur own back yards.. Well..every body knows..if VP is killed then no more LTTE...so you guys so much worrying since he is hiding..

aqua said...

Thanks DW... keep it up!

mrbrown.. ofcourse its stupid to wish that he will come out and go grocery shopping... no leader does that these days anyway..

but VP's cause has gone whack and nothing good has come out of it.. so the sooner it ends the better more people will end up.

its a loss for a few and benefit of the many.. simple math.

Ninja said...

/ let him hide as he wishes... U want him to come out..and being killed?.. /

mmhh..sole reps...liberating his own people whie hiding in rat holes.

Ninja said...

DW

What about other fronts? Alampil, K'chi, Paranthan, national front? What about casualties for both sides?

Single said...

Browny,
So it is "Our" VIP's...Good finally you spitted the truth in wich side you are.

"Our" VIP's are Democratically elected politicians. "Your" VP is a Military Gurellia Leader (and terrorist) who supposed to be in the field.

And he does not have to worry about Suciders as "our" people. "Our" VIPs not send suicders to kill them.

You remind me two characters : Ranil W or Lasantha Wickramathunge.

Ares said...

well said Single!

MrBrown said...

Dont worry guys...if Sornam is dead.. LTTE would release details.. They did for Tamilchelva and Balraj.. How many times GOSL and DW claimed to have hit top leaders..except when they hit Tamil chelvam.. BUT LTTE released the detaisl.. so please just skip these kind of articles..and try to analyses some thing about F7 pilots going to screw their wives after 5pm..or going to see who is screwing their wife..

MrBrown said...

SIngle...
what is terrorism and who is terrorist..? why VP is terrorist?

MrBrown said...

Poor people war is terrorism and rich people terrorism is war..

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Ares said...

i dont understand why these fuckers keep equaling ltte leaders to our politicians? i mean our politicians are far from good, but these are elected leaders... and as i tell my friends we elect them to be corrupt... i mean if a politician isnt corrupt... he/she is just another person lol...

'gorilla' leaders are suppose to take care of them as well, but not when 1/2 your fighting force is forced conscripts!

what happed to the good old fashioned brave hearts!

MrBrown said...

Anyway guys,, we need to be ready to count the body bags again.. as i hear..already it is piling up in ANuradhapura and Jeyawardanapura.. soon it will be piling in colombo too.. it seems ..this is just a start.. whther you guys beleive it or not... I was told few months back..when Vidathalthivu was lost..LTTE would let SLA till Poneryan..I did not beleive that time..but now. Time will tell every thing..

Corey said...

mr brown get an idea to your above comments on 'who is the terrorist", read this. This is a valuable article:

http://www.lankanewspapers.com/news/2008/11/35357.html

-shows how one-sided and blinded the so-called 'eelam' dream is.

Defence Column said...

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Ares said...

maybe swarnam isnt dead then. no one said he died... there is a question mark after dead.... he might have died he might have not... we just say we attacked a high profile target... except for one brave soul in the front line in mankulam no one said we definitely killed him... not even DW. besides this attack is old news... it first appeared in www.dailynews.lk not even defence.lk...

MrBrown said...

'' Visakha Girls College has lodged a protest with Sports Minister Gamini Lokuge over an alleged sexual harassment of its team by Air Force players during last Sunday`s waterpolo final at the National Aquatic Championships held at the Sugathadasa Stadium pool, the Daily Mirror learns.

The Visakha girls have alleged that they were bitten, squeezed and poked at sensitive spots during the final which they lost to the Air Force team 7-5.

Minister Lokuge has promised the school an inquiry and has already appointed his ministry`s medical consultant Dr. Geethanjana Mendis to examine the Visakha girls and submit a report.

Swimming administration is virtually dead in the country and is only run by an interim committee which is less active and played no major part in the conducting of the meet. ''

why are these girls making big fuss..? Cant they let them do it. WHen they are fighting and dieing to save our country cant these girls serve theirs... JVP and Gota should advice these girls..

Defence Column said...

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MrBrown said...

Corey and ares.

dont you adivice them if they are happened to be ur sisters..?

Defence Column said...

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Ares said...

mrbrown... you should visit all of DW and DN post and dig out your comments and make a book out of it and maybe name it memo's of a lost soul or even better we love to dream... or better the tigers will bounce back... and mail it to defense ministry...

i think peter has already done it! he has a blog... mrbrown you and your tiger internet heros should create a blog... it'll be fun...i promise to visit!

Corey said...

mr brown,
you are forgetting how female suicide cadres are created:

They are first enrolled in the lttp, raped by senior officials... once they lose their virginity, they are led to bellieve that they are "impure" and "not worth of being a tamil female"... Thus, these poor girls are made to lose their self-worth, and made to believe that they could be "of worth" if they sacrifice themselves to the "peelam dream"....

yes, then they are ready to blow themselves up....

... Nice training techniques, aren't they? This is ulitmate deception through pirating a poor individuals self-worth....

what would YOU think if this happened to YOUR sisters???

Ares said...

Visakha Girls.... so what there are lesbians in our air force...

Defence Column said...

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bungu said...

brown,

Did you know that most of women tigers get raped during their initial training period. It was reported on AI's website. Will see if I could get you the link.

Defence Column said...

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bungu said...

And Brown,

did you know that Suicide woman who tried to kill SF was impregnated by LTTE for the suicide mission?

It is sad how LTTE is using women and chilren in the name of Eelam. Why don't you talk about that?

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Mahen said...

That expert copy paster Defence Column is here too, don't think he has discerned the meaning of the word originality yet.

annonymous said...

Blogger Mahen said...

"That expert copy paster Defence Column is here too, don't think he has discerned the meaning of the word originality yet."

Aha, that expert moon walker Mahen is here too, don't think he has realized anything about life and war in the place Sri Lanka yet.

But count down is on. Nachchikuda will be recaptued 8 more days !!!

annonymous said...

Brown Macho,

You are critical about DW a lot. But you the expert are yet to answer my simple question. And when I asked it last time you vanished.

My Question is:

How can tigers turn tables now?

Hope I will get an answer this time.

perein said...

annonymous -
But one thing for sure we do have to agree with Mahen's last comment.

Defence Column's bulk posts started to irritate all of us.
Defence Column could post all links in one posting and help all.

annonymous said...

heard it is raining in SL, and it must be cloudy. Isn't it a day taht SLAF should keep eyes open.

And Brownie is expecting a tincan show tonight. He's talking about SLAF going home by 5PM.

Leo Sadeepa said...

Youtube video on Swarnam
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OIXqPqJkTwI

Ali said...

Brown pakaya . When you and every terrorist of your ilk is killed is when this country ill heave a sigh of relief . Fuck you bastards - thankfully you are getting your due form the valiant armed forces .

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sldf said...

It would have been nice if TF 3 captured "Col". Swarnam. Nice birthday treat for the leader.

Defencewire,

I'm more concerned about what is happening in the national front. We did make progress - true but at a huge cost. Over 100 soldiers wounded and close 40-50 KIA. Please help me understand why commanders are in a hurry to break through this sector, when we clearly know LTTE fire power is in tact. When the time comes LTTE will be force to withdraw from this sector. And that time not that far. SLAF did provide CAS. However, as we can see tiger indirect fire is still intact. I may be wrong but I think valuable lives of our beloved soldiers were wasted in Mahamulai/Killai fronts in the last couple days. Whole sector up to EP is very hostile to advancing troops. Best bet is the attack from front and rear simultaneously in my opinion when the time comes.

Corey said...

Dia$pora Money Going to .....

.. Reports are coming in that extorted money is now going in to 'personal development'...

http://www.dailymirror.lk/DM_BLOG/Sections/frmNewsDetailView.aspx?ARTID=32667

By the way, how did that guy become a millionaire and open a pizza business, overnight???

From now, our heroic peelam lobbyists will be fighting with each other to claim a part of this money for themselves........

Toronto gangs... get ready... more action will be required from you soon....

Defence Column said...

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ach said...

Mr brown Its not Jeyawardanapura, Jayawardanapura.Dont allow ur tamil cat to come out from ur bag.

Sujeewa Kokawala said...

Guys, I have seen one Swarnajith departing because somebody called someone else "fool". I am glad Swarnajith didnot meet a diaspora monkey, who uses the word Modaya as a word separator. Had it being so Swarnajith would have committed suicide.

Stepping over the moral issues, moving into facts, Swarnajith is right that race sinhala is not pure. But his "mathematical" proof is nonsense.

I have developed this idea that Sinhala is the composite name used to all who lived in SL before chola/muslim came. All the people in China are chinese. But within it some are mandarin, others cantonise etc. Australians also have many races under one composite nation. Sinhala is what combined all in SL, under which lived the mourya lambakarna tribes, Aryans, locals, yakka, and even tamils. They always got mixed.

The point for my idea is that in a small kingdom like Anuradhapura, with so much population, it is impossible to have ethnic pure regions for 1000s of its stable years. Right now colombo's ethnic barriers are diffusing and ppl are getting mixed. If the city is stable for a 1000 yrs, will there still be the barriers? I doubt.

However the arrival of chola in 993CE caused sinhala leave north and move towards south. This created unmixed tamil population in north [but constantly south indians and even tamils kept on coming to sinhala areas and got mixed up with Sinhala].

Muslims came and did not get mixed with locals [maybe due to religious difference to oriental ppl].

Anyway history shud not decide today's matters. The best and simplest logic is if we value cultural identity but everyone lives in one nation. Nobody gets special treats.

For Swarnajith's case, I have to say that this blog is not to discuss human moral codes, religion or even history. In fact history is often pulled by someone. But history is not our prime subject. And if we cannot reserve the right to call an eelama "FCUK you muerderer" I'm sure everyone else will leave and Swarnajith can discuss moral values with the kind who architect children being cut into two and buses being blown into pieces.

We are here to share news about war, and war is a dirty subject. Do not ask me which sutta to buddha preached to kill terrorists. I simply dont care which.

ach said...

[Guys, I have seen one Swarnajith departing because somebody called someone else "fool". I am glad Swarnajith didnot meet a diaspora monkey, who uses the word Modaya as a word separator. Had it being so Swarnajith would have committed suicide.]

When this blog was started Dw used to delete some comments which was racial in nature.But now he doesn't delete anything which is correct.I think everybody should have freedom ,to express their views on their own way.I like the freedom we are getting here.

Sujeewa Kokawala said...

This Muha-NK debacle seem to be continuing. For the third time THEY had a good "harvest" on us.

I think, for 53rd and 55th, it is wiser to divide to two and one party come down to pooneryn and take the wanni side kilali coast to reach EPS while 58th take B69. That way they can at least make a consolidated attack. The walk in park in NF should never be attempted unless pussycats withdraw fully from EPS.

Once again I am asking someone's help here.

If possible pls get main hospitals facilitated with helicopter landing pads. I can bear the hurt in the ultimate sacrifice of KIA, but I am personally struggling to hold the thought that some WIA die in colombo traffic.

They take the road from Ratmalana airport, Maliban to Pepiliyana- via attidiya [which maybe where Rana tarvelled in 1983] and then either horana colombo rd or kohuwala Kalubowila rd. It is a narrow busy road with humps. The bus blocks every vehicle in it. And our heroes with hands and legs blown, have to bear all the delays of flying and finally hold onto a bumpy ambulance ride to hospital.

If you have contacts pls pass the message.

For casualty comparison;

1. pls dont do. it is not the same. I cant be happy for any harvest if 100 of ours is KIA. I agree 10 KIA is unavoidable, but we shudnt really let 100KIA happen this often.

2. Harvest is a fake bullshit. I dont want the weapon bearing teacher, labourer and fisherman killed. I want the hardcore CA, IP etc killed. How little do they die?

Finally on THE gap to the east of Vavunia, guys, Sp Forces cannot hold a major attack in wave type. But a division with MBRL can. We need to have this region secured with a division, that is my idea. We dont feel it yet as most of pussycats are busy in Pooneryn [until 3days ago], EPS, Paranthan, Kili and Iranamadu. On a day such towns are captured, they have no choice but to move towards Oddusudan or even Nedunkerni. Then they will use the huge gap.

And I suspect that pussycats will start another biggy soon. They wanna keep the momentum of recent damages caused to us.

Annonymous, with extra 'n',

rain has seized. But tin cans may take up the advantage of cloudy skies.

kaatikuddupaan said...

judging from this picture :

http://www.army.lk/morenews.php?id=18316

it seems that a small mini camp was hit or that canter truck was a mobile mini camp.

Definitely a high profile team or high profile person being protected.

This is because the PK lmg is nicely oiled and not used much, there is "dongan" 40mm grenade launcher which most bodyguards carry on their back.

Even the base's .22 hunting rifle is there, so yeah good score for SLA.

That truck would be worth quite a lot for LTTE. Only a big commander going near frontlines would be given such a vehicle.

If SLA has managed to kill any of the bodyguards. Then you can see how experienced they are from dog tag, which every LTTE carrys 2 of ( one on neck, waist and right hand )

If the dog tag is the old style with numbers stamped on along with blood type, and also the number on it has to be low e.g 0024

then you have hit a "hard core" highly trained guy.

The new ├žadre's dog tags are just electro pencilen on and don't have blood type and are of high serial numbers.

A big reason for lack of morale in LTTE is the constant fear of doing a small mistake and then being sent to frontline as punishment.

If if you are an old timer from the Indian batch on rank of Lt. Colonel or colonel. A small mistake or perceived error and thats it tommorow you are in the first FDL at muhamalai or in some bush land being hailed on by arty's

Moshe Dyan said...

thanks DW for the update. still doesn't confirm my suspicions.

"guys,

LTTE leader SWARNAM has been attacked by the "dpu" yesterday.

no details available whether it was successful.

November 18, 2008 2:40 PM"

this means tigers are doing something to protect their leaders from "dpu", etc. attacks. these vehicles give them both MOBILITY and PROTECTION.

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Moshe Dyan said...

a fitting response to a recent pro-LTTE article in lankaguardian

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bungu said...

Moshe,

That truck is not bullet proof I suppose.
So I would expect to see lot of holes in the body and a shattered windscreen.

It looks bull to me.

Peace!

Ninja said...

# Muhamale 1st LTTE FDL under SLA !!! 55 in Action!

# Nayaru sea-tigers were aiming the 'Jet-liner'.

# Swarnam in hospital.

silentknight said...

@ ninja,

whats ur source?

Rana said...

Thambala,

Mate, you said:

/Swarnajith Udana,
This is not a religious blog.

Nor this is supposed to be a history blog. The original purpose of this is long. The Modaya that I am I can't help visit this blog. But since you are a wise man it is a wise decision to leave the blog./

Thambala, I certainly respect your views and your rights to express them freely here, but you do not have liberty or authority to categorised this blog is not for to discuss religious or history matters and suggests other blogers to leave.

How do you feel, if somebody else ask you to leave the blog because what you posts is not relevant to his/her perspectives?

As far as, I am concerned, Swarnajith Udana has said only following with respect to Buddhism:

/Even though I do not follow any religion I would like to see that all religions are respected and supported-but there is no state religion) etc. Among all religions I respect Buddhism because of the saying in Alara Kalama Suthra and I believe that Buddha would have not supported Buddhism being the state religion. Also, Buddha would have proclaimed that he was not a Buddhist since he did not want be a prisoner of an ideology./

How true and relevant to the topics we discuss here.

We have already discussed religion, history, literature, music, songs and poems etc. That is the diversity, we want here.

The blogers who visit here are good cross section of our community and it represent good sample of Sri Lankan society. Therefore we have a realistic diversity here.

We have humerists like Amma G/G who can make everybody laugh and relieve tension to make us feel lighter. We have defence experts like Moshe, Nirosh, Hemantha and ravana etc. We have serious thinkers like Panhinda, Histary, Saman, Ninja, Sujeewa Kokawal, Swarnajith Udana and Wijayapala etc who can discuss many many subjects. We have balanced blogers like Apino, MayilRawana, Sam Perea, Perein and Corey. We have truck load of patriots and traitors who will argue and fight verbaly til the end.

Now, please do not be angry b'cause, I missed your name.

It is a beauty!!!

So, please mate, be patient with others and learn to respect their views.

After all patriotism also has many levels from low to high.

Having said all above bla, bla... now I would like to invite Swarnajith Udana to come back to the blog, brother.

We have many things to discuss before this war is over.

Infact, I am begging Panhinda to come back at least once a while!!

Rana said...

Moshe,

According to defence.lk it is not DPU attacked Swarnam, it is TF3 after capturing Mankulam, they saw this tall man clibing to the vehicle with bodyguards on motor cycles.

TF3 opened fire and trck went off the road but before TF3 surround the place his body guards took him away abondoning MBs.

Srilankan said...

Defencewire,
Thankyou for the great posts..as oppposed to that toilet at srilankanewspapers.I dont give a monkeys for swarnums,his gay lover or sisters lesbian lover..if he is dead so what big deal...I wish the forces blew his body apart..this is what he wanted anyway to... kill..as many innocent people in villages..damn shame could not get him before..at least hopefully we got this shit now..god willing..

Arsath said...

50 Million spent for every ass tiger killed? Is this a true figure? what the f*#!% is he talking? Can somebody shed some light on Wickramabahu's nonsense talk http://www.tamilnet.com/art.html?catid=13&artid=27522

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Rana said...

arsath,

Havn't you heard before:

There are lies and damn lies and next is stats!

So, don't care about defence expenditure divided by number of pussycats dead.

You cannot judge a war with stats:

Rana said...

Hi Folks,

Does anybody knows, why defence.lk is silent over Muhamalei attack yesterday?

Is it a news blackout or as Sujeewa suggested higher number of casualties?

Sam Perera said...

Very moving day for those who believe in a common Sri Lankan identity. I sincerely hope that any remaining racists will see the Tamil Sri Lankans from a different perspective after these kind of events to cultivate a new Sri Lankan identity.

Sam Perera said...

Arsath,

Wickramabahu is a failed socialist who is also a lost and ignored. It is very funny that he counts the expenses per person by the number of dead tigers. Instead, he should estimate how much we are going to loose if we loose a part of our motherland. I am pretty certain that, unlike Dr. Vikramabahu, the value of our motherland is priceless for most of us. Now compare our defence expenses against our priceless motherland. I guess it is nothing. Bottom line is that in the minds of these bogus peace mongers, they see no value in saving our motherland from LTTE terrorists for our future generations or for our today. Bahu is somebody who has a doctorate in Electrical Engineering. A very bright student in his time. However, his feel for the pulse of his people seems to be dismal.

Moshe Dyan said...

bungu,

yes.

cheers.

Moshe Dyan said...

rana,

mate, my source is pro-LTTE (not tn obviously).

i said "dpu".

tigers call anything they cannot explain "dpu".

Rana said...

Wijayapala,

Three other blogers confirmed Asithri is correct about Sarath Fonseka spending few years in his childhood at Ampara (east) with his school teacher parents. That is where he experienced communal violence carried out by eastern tamils. Asithri clearly said SF was born in Balangoda instead Ambalngoda (both in the south) with atype:


Now it is time for you to apologise for calling Asithri a “dumb arse hole”.

Come on show your character here, if want to discuss things in further in matured way.

/ Actually there is no evidence that either Indira Gandhi or RAW was involved with the LTTE before 1983/

Of course there is no evidence but it is a well known secret. India will never publish details of covert ops . You know that but for the sake of argument, you deny it. Shame on you?

/ No, most Tamils did not escape SL. Some escaped to India and even fewer emigrated to the West (although this number increased over the years), but most remained in SL. There was a large departure of Colombo Tamils to Jaffna, and Upcountry Tamils to Eastern Province and the Wanni./

Wrong again, most able tamils (I personally know many tamil engineers from CEB) left SL within months after 83 riots.

Later Jafna people left SL mainly b’cause of LTTP, other were economic refugees who were waiting for an opportunity to land in the west. In fact I know many tamils from India went to the west claiming that they are from SL and their house burnt by the SLA and father or mother killed by the SLA and their passports were burned….etc etc. Pack of lies and India provided them with travel documents legally and illegally.

Now you see the reason for mistrust and rejection between two communities. Both communities are guilty of being inconsiderate on the other. If you and I could show courage to accept truth without being biased, then others will follow, then we have a bright future in SL. Otherwise, we all suffer and go backwards while all other countries are progressing.

Moshe Dyan said...

bungu,

by these vehicles i meant the type in the first picture.

canter truck - new hiding place

sorry for the confusion.

wijayapala said...

Rana & Ninja,

"Asithri clearly said SF was born in Balangoda instead Ambalngoda (both in the south) with atype:..."

...right after he stated that the violence SF witnessed was in Ampara. The implication was that SF was born in Ampara, as I pointed out here:

http://defencenet.blogspot.com/2008/10/suicide-bombing-in-boralesgamuwa.html

Note that the Dumb-Arse does not correct my "misreading" of his placement of Balangoda in Ampara. Just more of his usual crap.

Unfortunately, the Arse has a tendency to dig himself further in his latrine-dwelling:

"Yes, this Mr. Know-it-All undercover LTTE whore-bithch now even questions eminent Prof. Nalin De Silva's credentials!"

Here is what the University Teachers for Human Rights-Jaffna (UTHR-J; katch cited UTHR in the previous thread), the courageous anti-LTTE Tamil organization had to say about Prof. de Silva:

http://www.uthr.org/SpecialReports/spreport29.htm

Particularly the JVP and JHU owe a good deal to the Jathika Chintanaya (National Ideology) movement of the mid-1980s. Formulated by Gunadasa Amarasekera and Nalin de Silva, it gave shape and form to scattered ideas that had motivated Sinhalese exclusivism for many decades. It critiques political institutions and systems (Marxism in particular) imported from the West, sees Sri Lanka as in essence Sinhalese whose genius is to be realised by a unitary state establishing its lost Buddhist ethos.

His obscurantism and intolerance of minorities and their sense of identity is also expressed in the same article: “It is unfortunate that since the Dutch period the demography in the Jaffna peninsula has been changed with the importation of labour for the tobacco cultivation from South India, and since then the western Christian colonialists have been successful in driving a wedge between the Sinhala Buddhists and the imported Tamil Hindus and creating and using a Tamil racism against Sinhalathva in this country.” It is history plucked out of thin air and violent in its realisation.

It was a largely PNM delegation led by Ven. Elle Gunawanse and Nalin de Silva that went to the rescue and pleaded with JVP’s Somawansa Amarasinghe not to jeopardize the fight against terrorism.


If the name "Ven. Elle Gunawanse" does not ring a bell, I'll fill you in: he was one of the instigators of the 1983 riots.

By telling us that his patriotic heroes are nothing but the slimiest anti-Tamil racists, Dumb Arse has only educated us as to his own inclinations. But worse than that, Dumb Arse is a liar:

"Can you see the number of times this motherfcuker, who comes here like the Mr. Know-it-All, has denigrated the fine achievements of Sinhela heroes/kings?"

I challenge Dumb Arse, or for that matter any of his hangers-on, to show ONE post of mine where I denigrated Sri Lankan kings (Sinhala or Tamil). If Dumb Arse cannot meet the challenge, then he's a LYING Dumb Arse (and a racist one at that!).

Amma Gahai/Gahawi said...

Morning boys and girls,

pls pls spare ur thoughts for the valiant solders fighting in the front line with terrorists.

My heart goes to the SLDF heroes who kissed the motherland for the last time! I am just a worthless soul compared to them!

I know it is not the time for a joke but I have to continue my counting!

G’Day Primates,

It is 8 days to go the Monkey Day! 27/11/08

R u guys going to get the Rajini monkey to do a monkey dance on this day???

Rana said...

Wijayapala,

I would like to see your views on the followings:

1. What is your personal view on Prabakaran? Is he a good leader or megalomaniac killer?

2. What is your personal view on LTTE? Will it help tamil community live in dignity while protecting their human rights?

3. What is your personal view on diaspora? Are they correct to fund a terror organisation like LTTE?

4. What is your personal view on Karauna Nidhi's present attempt to safeguard LTTE by claiming plight of tamil civilians, who are virtual prisoners of Prabhakaran?

5. Why T'naadu politicians make so much noise about SL tamils every time when LTTE is loosing its cadres and teritory?

6. What is your personal view on Col.Karuna and his defection to the GOSL?

Please give me serious answers, if possible with relevant facts.

Thank you

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# Troops close in on Kokavil
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Amma Gahai/Gahawi said...

Rana, u have posted some good questions for Wijayapala. But Wijayapala have already answered or have kinda already express his views on those people and situations on his old (I mean old old) posts. I still remember his views/facts and if I spot any differences this time when he answers to u questions, I’ll put it in the table. Good one anyway!

1st test starting today! A massacre waiting! : )) just kidding!!!

Moshe Dyan said...

rana,

any primary student studied in SL would know what is meant by,

"horage ammagen pena ahanawa".

this WESAPALA suckkillaiya is a terrorist pretending to be a patriot. like an unpaid slut the bitch goes after people complaing about 1983 begging for lost virginity.

what sri lankans should do is to put 1956, 1958, 1983 behind and move on.

this slut's mother, sister and daughter were raped in 1983. that's why the suckkilliaiya continues to poison this defence blog with 1983.

both rioters and their victims who still hold grudges on 1983 are problems.

we must move on.

let the past burry its RAPED - miss vijayapala, mrs. vijayapala, miss vijayapala and mr VESAPALA!!

enough of 1983. let the past burry its dead.

there is a war to fight. may be those who suffered in 1983 are suffering again. what matters is 2009 and beyond. it is good to punish the wrongdoers based on evidence but better to face TODAY's challenges.

those who are still affected by rapes 25 years old should get psycological attention and the rapists should also seek medical attention. let the others live in peace.

WE MSUT MOVE FORWARD, not BACKWARDS

wijayapala said...

Ninja

"Are we in a word game here? Even MR said few days ago there is no 'war' in SL, its just military (humanetarian) operations. And as I know only in RW's CFA we accepted LTTE has an 'army'."

I would rather not play word games. Ask any soldier fighting in the North and he'll tell you that we're at WAR. "Humanitarian Operations" is BS that we feed to India and the int'l community- Roosevelt and Churchill did not call the struggle to defeat the Nazis a "humanitarian operation."

I did not use the term "army" to imply legitimacy but size. It was only after 1983 that the LTTE had the strength to challenge the Sri Lankan state.

"Agree, but its not that some sinhala thugs killed 2000-3000 tamils and after that VP and his friends deciding to be armed."

You are correct; the LTTE was established in the 1970s, well before the gruesome events from 1977-83. But my point was that Thalaivar had no chance to create Tamil Eelam with his fellow high-school dropouts before 1983. You cannot establish a separate state with 30 unemployed hoodlums.

"No mattar when you take as the "starting day" of "war" military sruggle started before 83."

There was no "military struggle" before 1983. The LTTE was nothing more than a street gang in Jaffna. Whether or not anyone sympathized with the Tigers, they were not willing to openly support them until the 83 massacre.

"With independence (democrazy) full control bocame no-control and 50-50 came and later changed it into federel state and then apgraded to seperate state.
.
"

I'm not denying that the Tamil leadership was an enlightened bunch (but no less enlightened than their Sinhala counterparts), but I have a question:

If the Tamil elites cooked up separatism to hold onto or gain privileges, why did the ordinary Tamils follow along? More importantly, why did the ordinary Tamils NOT follow along at first, but later did?

"AD fought mainly for cultural independence/ freedom and up to great extend for economics freedom/ independence."

I agree with you. But his followers never launched an uprising against the British even remotely comparable to the Indians' struggle. There was no mass civil disobedience, no economic shutdowns (except for the leftists' agitations), no confrontations with the British. Instead, we got a confrontation with the Tamils (whose leaders had their own role to play in the mess).

"Sinhalese don't have this kind of "pure" mentiality. Its our monkey friends who think like this."

Here's what Anagarika Dharmapala said on the topic:

...ethnologically the Sinhalese are a unique race, in as much as they can boast that they have no slave blood in them, and never were conquered by either the pagan Tamils or European vandals who for three centuries devastated the land.

Dharmapala obviously did not envision that a civil war would take place in the future; contrary to what some argued he was not rabidly anti-minority. But his beliefs were interpreted by some to justify Sinhala exclusivism.

hemantha said...

An analysis of military situation.
-By Col. R. Hariharan

click here

Defence Column said...

# Military compelled to restrict shelter material to Wanni
Click here

wijayapala said...

Sujeewa Kokawala,

"I hope I was not rude to Wijayapala or shut him up."

No offense taken. I would rather talk about the war, but if Mushe would rather continue bleating about Anandasangaree and killing surrendered Tigers, then I have to shut him up.

wijayapala said...

Selva,

"Yes, the LTTE cut off Mavil Aru anicut, but their intentions were noble, they only wanted poor Tamil farmers to get their fair share of water so that they can cultivate their crops and feed their families."

Was it noble to deny water to Sinhala farmers so that they could not feed their families?????

"We cannot lay down arms at this juncture as we are only protecting our citizens from genocide and wanton acts of aggression."

Then you completely understand why we're not laying down our arms, as we are only protecting our citizens from terrorism.

"The day will come when we will all be able to travel freely around the Island, there will just be a border post at Omanthai, however, we will not harass anyone, we would like to live peacefully with our neighbours."

I have a better deal for you: after we wipe out the LTTE, you'll be able to travel freely without even a border post! Isn't that cool?

Defence Column said...

# Prabhakaran is in good health: Nadesan
Click here

wijayapala said...

Sam,

"As far as wijayapala goes, he is Tamil Sri Lankan with a certain bias."

If you'd like to believe that I'm Tamil, I have no objection. However if I was really a Tamil, I would not have identified myself here with a Sinhala name like "wijayapala."

Defence Column said...

# "Had the security forces been given this leadership earlier, they would have done wonders" - Douglas Devananda
Click here

Defence Column said...

# The casualty rate in war
Click here

Ninja said...

click here

1. This clearly shows (swarnam's ?) Mankulam LTTE leaders bunker was not damaged until SLA attacked it.

2. They say it is strong enough even to survive from a air raid.

3. UAVs couldn't detect this for 4-5 years.

This situation is true in general. LTTE knows what SLAF has, what kind of UAVs, what kind of jets and what are thier capabilities. Thus they simply make thier defences such a way they can survive from SLAF.

All the places SLRC went what we saw was the same thing. Well build unharmed under ground bunkers. (Whenever they were damaged it seems due to SLA gun fire.) Almost impossible to detect from air.

This is why our jet squdran has very little to do in this war. If we invest more in hinds they can provide more support for advancing troops.

Sam Perera said...

wije,

I honestly don't give a JS about any Sri Lankans ethnicity as long as they are pro-Sri Lankan and not pro-LTTE. Nevertheless, I stongly believe in building a common Sri Lankan identity, i.e. a feeling that stays above everything else when they think of our country. It is extremely important to build, rebuild and strengthen a common bond among Sri Lankans for our own sake. For example, our national cricket team is doing this job already and we need it in out military and police also. Lets not get too carried away since this is a blog to discuss military matters.

Moshe Dyan said...

if you talk to a LTTE supporter he will tell you 1915, 1956, 1958, 1972, 1983,1915, 1956, 1958, 1972, 1983,1915, 1956, 1958, 1972, 1983,1915, 1956, 1958, 1972, 1983,1915, 1956, 1958, 1972, 1983,1915, 1956, 1958, 1972, 1983,1915, 1956, 1958, 1972, 1983,1915, 1956, 1958, 1972, 1983,1915, 1956, 1958, 1972, 1983,1915, 1956, 1958, 1972, 1983,1915, 1956, 1958, 1972, 1983,........

this is the SAME beaten record. it doesn't matter because crime NEVER pays.

lets finish this war; ANNIHILATE the LTTE and rebuild this country.

addressing grievences - AFTER the war is OVER. putting the cart before the horse is a CUNNING way of obsructing the war.

i'm very happy that the govt doesn't give a flying fart about this BS demand by pro-LTTE suckkillaiyas.

#1 - horse - WAR
#2 - cart - addressing grievances

Sam Perera said...

ninja,

is that a dead dog at 0:31 to the left side of the video?

Defence Column said...

# The Stillborn LTTE Counter Attack
Click here

Defence Column said...

# Sri Lanka: An Analysis of Military Situation
Click here

Ninja said...

Wijayapala

Its sad to drag this useless arguement about Balangoda- Ambalangoda and Ampara.

1) /SF is no stranger to the anti-Sinhela racism AND violence from the rabidly racist Tamils. Evidently, when he was a kid of 5 years in Ampara (yes, he was born in Balangoda in our Ruhuney), there were many occasions where he had to run into the jungles with his parents and hide when racist Tamil mobs would descend upon their impoverished Sinhela village - where both his mother and father were school teachers – and loot and set fire to houses./-Asithri


2) /As for Sarath Fonseka being from Ambalangoda (vs. Balangoda as I misquoted in my original post), it was immediately corrected and owned up to by my typo when a blogger pointed out./-Asithri

3) /...right after he stated that the violence SF witnessed was in Ampara. The implication was that SF was born in Ampara, as I pointed out here:/-Wijayapala

4) /Actually you weren't very clear what exactly you owned up to. Balangoda is not in Ampara District either but in Ratnapura (my own hometown), so your idiotic screw-up was not simply a matter of a typo./-Wijayapala

Again. I never feel like Balangoda is in Ampara after reading that part. What I understood is Asithri wanted to emphasise (Am)balangoda is in 'Ruhune'. As I said yesterday, according to my definition of 'Rununa' all Balangoda, Ambalangoda and Ampara are in Ruhune.

[I know people from current southern province says they are from ruhune. True, if so, people from Trinco (south of mahaweli river) also can say the same. People (even MR) use this for thier advantage. If you say

sourthern province = ruhuna
anuradhapura province = rajarata/ pihiti rata
rest of the country = what???]

Anyhow I don't see any use dragging this arguement any more.

Rana said...

Wijayapala,

Your answers to Selva shows that you really care for a united SL.

I salute for your position on this regard.

I think we are on the way to understand you better and better.

Keep it up, bro!

Ninja said...

SamP

May be. Not very clear.

Navindran said...

Well now that BJP is working towards an Independent Hindu State in the South, I guess news like this must be fed to keep some people here happy. Anyway I believe these were the same troops that saw the Zlin come down.

A question is will people in this forum fight if facing the Indian Army or surrender. I guess at least Defencewire will get his free Auto Rcikshaw from his master Gota.

wijayapala said...

Rana,

Here are serious answers backed up with relevant facts:

"1. What is your personal view on Prabakaran? Is he a good leader or megalomaniac killer?"

I'll go with the 2nd option.

"2. What is your personal view on LTTE? Will it help tamil community live in dignity while protecting their human rights?"

No.

"3. What is your personal view on diaspora? Are they correct to fund a terror organisation like LTTE?"

The ones who fund the LTTE are ignorant dumbasses. As evidence I present Pete and Mahen.

"4. What is your personal view on Karauna Nidhi's present attempt to safeguard LTTE by claiming plight of tamil civilians, who are virtual prisoners of Prabhakaran?"

Karunanidhi is a jackass.

"5. Why T'naadu politicians make so much noise about SL tamils every time when LTTE is loosing its cadres and teritory?"

Because they're jackasses.

"6. What is your personal view on Col.Karuna and his defection to the GOSL?"

Karuna was one of the best commanders the LTTE had (probably the best next to Balraj), but he's an opportunist like most LTTE leaders. He was running Batticaloa-Ampara district command like his own kingdom, pocketing the extortion from people instead of passing it on to Kilinochchi, until Pottu & friends got angry with him for not licking their Jaffna asses. When they summoned him to the north, he knew that his future with the Iyakkam was over.

However Karuna did something very interesting when he rebelled. He declared that the LTTE discriminated against eastern Tamils, forcing them to fight and die in the north while northerners got all the leadership positions. These were all open secrets which everyone knew, and that explains why the Batticaloa Tamils initially were on Karuna's side.

The LTTE claimed that Karuna got in trouble for corruption. That is true, but they left out the part about how Karuna was supposed to fund the LTTE's own corruption. Likewise, if Karuna was really concerned about the eastern Tamils, he would've left the LTTE much earlier, at least in 1993.

DW told me earlier that MI didn't trust Karuna because he still followed LTTE management practices- he was acting like a Thalaivar Jr., whereas Pillayan could be kept under control and molded into a political role. Now it seems that the roles have reversed.

wijayapala said...

"any primary student studied in SL would know what is meant by,

"horage ammagen pena ahanawa".

this WESAPALA suckkillaiya is a terrorist pretending to be a patriot. like an unpaid slut the bitch goes after people complaing about 1983 begging for lost virginity.
"

Whoah now, don't get mad Mushe! Kalabola venne epa!

N said...

Rana,

You being an educated person and having lived in the west for 20 years , you should understand better. I was quite surprised to read your comments about 83, remember certain things are better not said or repeated. America bombed Hiroshima & Nagasaki and killed over 80.000 civilians, Hitler killed over 6 million Jews. Have you seen Americans & Germans dwelling in the past ?

Wijepala is planting a few trees and burning forests, and now you have joined him. Maybe I am wrong, this is how I feel. How many innocent civilians including clergy, women, infants and children have been massacred by the LTTE, have you ever seen any of these monkeys or any Tamils admitting about it in public? Well they are smart. You must understand that this blog is being read by so many non Sri Lankans who have no idea about SL and your claiming of innocent civilian lives gives in a broader perspective a very bad image to the Sinhalese. My kind request to you and Wijepala is please refrain from these counterproductive comments.
.

Wijepala,

If you love SL, please do not dig graves come up with fresh new POSITIVE ideas instead of picking on others ALL the time. And also forget about the petty issues like spellings, grammar etc. etc, Others are not kindergarten children and you are not their teacher. Nobody asks for your opinion and average you are right about 50% of the times and it’s not a good average. I am not being judgmental but your writings do more damage to SL and Sinhalese than good. You also have definitely created a division in this blog. This is not unjust criticism and I’m sure as an educated person you’ll sharpen up in the future.

This is just a suggestion...

wijayapala said...

Swranajith Udana,

"The blog is only for patriots. I should not budge in anymore."

That's not true, there are LTTE dumbasses who also post here (although I guess they also consider themselves to be "patriots"). In any case, I think Sri Lanka needs both patriots and humanists- the patriots when the going gets tough, and the humanists when the tough get going.

It also depends what you mean by "patriot." Some self-described patriots are just closet racists/bigots who bring their own people to ruin. Cyril Mathew was one such "patriot," and interestingly so is Thalaivar.

I would say it takes b@lls to be a real humanist. It will be the humanists, not the "patriots," who will be able to reach out to the Tamils and rebuild Sri Lanka. When this war is over, it will be your turn to shine.

Take care. Don't forget us.

Ninja said...

Wijayapala

/I would rather not play word games./

/War is an international relations dispute, characterized by organized violence between national military units./

/A civil war is a war between a state and domestic political actors that are in control of some part of the territory claimed by the state./

I also don't want to play word games. Some people want to avoid the term war as it implies the fighting is between two international players. Thus the term civil war is fine. We say 'yuddaya' to war but no seperate single word for civil war. Actually, historcialy almost all the wars we foght was civil wars and hence in sinhala 'yudde' is our 'civil war'.

Any how our arguement was not about war and civil war. I agree right now there is a war (means civil war.) Question was when it was began. My point was it is hard to give a exact time as it evolves from VP's single bullet to 130mm ammos within 30 years. So I didn't say when 'war' began. But I said 'armed struggle' (no mattar what was the scale or capability it had) was began well before.

/But my point was that Thalaivar had no chance to create Tamil Eelam with his fellow high-school dropouts before 1983. You cannot establish a separate state with 30 unemployed hoodlums./ Agree.

/No mattar when you take as the "starting day" of "war" military sruggle started before 83.

There was no "military struggle" before 1983. The LTTE was nothing more than a street gang in Jaffna. Whether or not anyone sympathized with the Tigers, they were not willing to openly support them until the 83 massacre./

LTTE tried to explode (I think they did, but less damage) a bomb in Rathmalana air port...before 83. (You should know better than me.) LTTE and other groups may be small in numbers and with less public support. Your point is it was small scale, unsuccesful, bound to fail process unless 83 happaned. But they have already decided taking arms (and they did)and fighting against the government for seperate state. I see your first two sentences above kind of contradictory.

/If the Tamil elites cooked up separatism to hold onto or gain privileges, why did the ordinary Tamils follow along? More importantly, why did the ordinary Tamils NOT follow along at first, but later did?/

I had no arguement there. 56 and 83 made large number of ordinary tamils also to belive in LTTE.

/Sinhalese don't have this kind of "pure" mentiality. Its our monkey friends who think like this./

This is my personal experiance, in general. (You may be able to find a single person living today or in hostory otherwise.!)

Rana said...

Wijayapala,

You have made your position very clear, brother!

I don't care about your ethnecity, I only care about your views and what you believe! I am ready to shake hand with you and march forward to rebuild our mother land, mate.

Thank you for clearing doubts we had about you.

For other patriots:

Please do not try to suppress or attack people from this blog purely because their veiews and believs are different to yours.

As I said before there are many levels to patriotism. Low level patriotism is "KASSIPPU BEELA SARAMA USSAGENA GAHANNA YANAWA BAYA NETHIWA GODAK THAMANGE PETTHATA INNA NISA". That is wrong! These are the people who exploit cheap "JATHYALAYA" to loot people from other ethnecities on racial lines. They ultimately presented us with this conflict. In future majority must stand hard against these hooligans for the sake of our country.

Real aptriotism is working for the development of mother land with a positive thinking and sincere dialogue.

We as human beings should be able to discuss anything in friendly manner without antognising others.

Our politicians are divided, because that way they can all enjoy better life on the expense of others. When one politico divided 1000s followers also divided.

Do not fall into pit falls created by our politicians and other individuals who are trying to promote racism, nationalisim or any other lism for their own benefit.

wijayapala said...

N,

"Nobody asks for your opinion"

I didn't ask for your opinion either, but I'm not scared of what you have to say. If you really think that my words alone cause divisions for SL and Sinhala people, then you sure have a lot more to worry about than the LTTE.

Rana said...

N,

Mate, your views are noted and respected. However, I am also a grown up man and know very well how to handle things for myself.

Thanks for your comments, brother.

wijayapala said...

Ninja,

"Your point is it was small scale, unsuccesful, bound to fail process unless 83 happaned. But they have already decided taking arms (and they did)and fighting against the government for seperate state. I see your first two sentences above kind of contradictory."

The Tamil people as a whole did not decide to take arms for a separate state, or wholeheartedly support those who did with shelter, food etc., until 1983. That is the key. What 30 school dropouts believed in wasn't very important.

Moshe Dyan said...

PLEASE STICK TO DEFENCE MATTERS

a blog to discuss defence matters has gone to dogs - wesa-balla to be specific.

can we please stick to defence matters, please.

politics can be discuseed in various other blogs. there are blogs for dating too. talking politics also divides people including patriots.

there are only 2 blogs to discuss defence matters so lets use it that way.

liter or literature is ok as long as it doesn't obstruct the main theme of defence.

IF IN DOUBT PLEASE RE-READ ALL THE POSTS DEFENCEWIRE HAS POSTED. nothing political, everything defence related.

friends, enemies, patriots, traitors, can we all agree?

TropicalStorm said...

So the troops 'observed' the body guards rush to help the injured leader...very noble of them to stand to attention and let the casulaty evacuation.

I thought our soldiers were on a mission to eleminate those who would destroy our people and everything we stand for, given half a chance. They were not on a sight-seeing tour, and neither were they required to be gentlemanly. Thier job is to kill the enemy and destroy their military capability.

Looks like they failed in that objective, totally and miserably. Some one needs to spell it out to them; the only observation you do in such a situation is to make sure the cross hairs of your gun sights are on your enemy and keep firing, until the target stops dead.

THAT is their job.

Ninja said...

Wijayapala

In above definitions for war and civil war you can see some inconsistancy - I got them from wikipedia.

/The Tamil people as a whole did not decide to take arms for a separate state,../

Right, I didn't mean whole tamil people by "they". I meant LTTE whatever the number would be.

@ Nalin De Silva

It seems you have branded him as ultra-sinhala racist as our well paid NGOs do.

But note that he is from acedemia and you can find similar people (who non-violantly write or express thier views) from both sides. Also, general public hardly read or understand what he writes. None of the thugs did 83 did that after reading him, I believe. And as I know you or any one can argue with him and disprove; he is open to such arguements.

N

When we argue chances are high truth comes out and truth is what LTTE hate most they love thier propaganda.

Rana said...

Moshe,

Machan, you are right, our major discussion here is present war and defence matters.

However, you should agree, politics are everywhere, politics and connected to everything. This war is also about political differences and aims.

Please, brother, let it flow in a natural course rather than forcing it to flow in a particular direction.

Amma Gahai/Gahawi said...

TS:
“So the troops 'observed' the body guards rush to help the injured leader...very noble of them to stand to attention and let the casulaty evacuation.”
No disrespect, but u failed to c the bigger picture! As much as we kill we need to observe the enemy and study them too. In no battle every dog gets killed unless it is a RAMBO movie.

“Looks like they failed in that objective, totally and miserably. make sure the cross hairs of your gun sights are on your enemy and keep firing, until the target stops dead.”
Only RAMBO did it effectively! Even RAMBO is getting bit mature these days, if u have watched latest RAMBO movie then this time even RAMBO let slip some of the bad guys!
I think SLA boys did a very smart thing by killing and wounding lot of LTTE terrorists on this ambush keeping our casualties to minimum! Bravo Brothers!

Rana said...

Guys,

I remember reading daily news or daily mirror article about TF3 crossing A9 at Kokavil about a week ago. Somebody posted the link here, that article had a map showing clearly TF3 has cleared east of A9 up to Iranamadu tank.

Now nothing about that, even defence maps not showing it.

Can somebody clear this for me, please.

Amma Gahai/Gahawi said...

Rana: "Please, brother, let it flow in a natural course rather than forcing it to flow in a particular direction."

Yep I like ur idea! I don’t like rules! I am a free man!! That’s why I hate the library! Ha ha ha

Hey, NZ going gr8! Aussies 3 down for 33!

Rana said...

Amma G/G,

Or really, mate! This blog and some other work kept me busy, I totally forgot today is Thursday!

Thanks for update, brother.

I am not a fan of black caps, but when NZ play with Aussies, it is worth while to watch.

Jaya2008 said...

All Tamil Diaspora,

Sri Lankan hospitality:

http://www.spur.asn.au/MM_20081116
_Train_of_Brotherhood_to_help_IDP
.asp

Puran Appu said...

Army captured LTTE Muhamale defence line says military spokesman- Ada Derana reports.

Puran Appu said...

I was told that troops are operating in Pallai now. Anyone knows about it? And Casualties, 70 KIA and 120 WIA?

nemesis said...

Muhamalei seems to have fallen to our lads! any news??

Moshe Dyan said...

puran appu,

there are at least 3 "layers" of FDLs.

which one, if i may ask?



rana,
re: natural flow - of course. i'm part of it too. (may be too much!!) but lets stop when things go too far away from defence per se matters.

i believe this blog discussion to create, 1 + 1 = 3 in DEFENCE matters favouring what the MINISTRY OF DEFENCE IS UP AGAINST!!

i know you agree.

if w-pala or sharp discuss defence matters (without bashing ppl who hold different opinions) i would love to discuss with them.

there is VERY small element of politics in defence but that is that. although used as defence, the main thing is military matters.

BS!

Moshe Dyan said...

p.a.,

ok. that explains it.

pallai is the thin "thread" that connects the jaffna peninsular in the EAST MOST point.

Moshe Dyan said...

IF SLA in pallai, looks like they are going to lay seige to EPS.

hope SLAF will AT THE SAME TIME target tiger artillery further south.

tigers can cut-off the SLA further north. there is still a tiger stretch towards east of 58 and west of pallai.

Rana said...

Moshe,

ofcourse, mate, I agree.

We will progress, as it comes, like SLA!

I think PA said is first FDL captured and now they are trying to capture 2nd FDL.

Puran Appu said...

Moshe Dyan,

I was told that it's the 1st one. This consists of strongly built bunkers and many trenches. They have dug deep broad ditches, to prevent the deadly mechanical Infantry crossing the line. I was also told that there is another strong line @ Pallai. This is what I heard from an officer in the front line. No matter how strong it is, Poor LTTE got no choice this time.

TropicalStorm said...

Amma G...

The soldiers had them in sight. Hit them once and failed to complete the job.

Their job is to kill. This would have been another great de-capitation strike. They failed.

Infinity said...

MUHAMALE & KILALY FDLS CAPTURED SMASHING CONVENTIONAL BELIEF
http://www.army.lk/index1.php

mboi said...

i hope slaf has aircraft going in to support at muhamalai, they have to neutralize deep ltte artillery.

Infinity said...

TropicalStorm, from the description it looks like the vehicle was some distance away behind the foremost enemy line. It could only be reached at a later time. So it could be lucky that it was hit at all.

Infinity said...

According to the map it looks like there is fighting also at Nagarkovil.
http://www.army.lk/morenews.php?id=18324

Rana said...

Guys,

Muhamalei, Kilali and Magar Kovil would have been captured long ago, if we had a dependable air force. The area is a open terrain with easy access by air, with no civilians, bunker busters would have done the job. SLAF accuracy is very poor and LTTP know that by experience.

They are also good dedicated fighters by every means.

God bless our boys.

"Ape weerayanta Theruwan Saranai"

Infinity said...

Rana, one of the main problems for the army was the possibility of a counter-attack from Pooneryn, possibly even leading to an encirclement if the troops neared EP. Notice that the attack started immediately when Pooneryn was taken.

Regarding the airfoce, destroying a few trench bunkers will not destroy a strong long line and would be very expensive and inefficient use of the airforce. Much better to do destroy bunkers with tanks and rockets like the army id doing. The airfoce is probably better used to take out artillery and mortars further behind, which is what they have done.

Rana said...

Infinity,

Agreed, bro, good say!

bunkerhide_pukabaharan said...

MRBROWN

"''Due to continuous failures on their part, many LTTE senior 'Commanders' have been stripped of their command and posted to the front by the LTTE leader who still remains in hiding.''
what is bothering you... let him hide as he wishes... U want him to come out..and being killed?.. How many bullet proof cars and motorcyel need ur VIPs to travel around Colombo..and how many roads are closed..? 1st see ur own back yards.. "

aRE YOU CRAZY? EVEN DW THIS DAMN SINGALA CRAZY?

It's only me who know how I feel as a God sun living under 150 feet deep bunker. My heart beating every time when black tinger kollo telling me Kfir is coming. I even wear pampers (Thanks to norway sent many) . I am suffering with diabete, Cyrosis, HIV, and kidney. I dont have hospital to go and get treatements free. I have no freedom man everyday living like a dead. Only me know how I suffer now. Depression all over my jungle body. My appa who to blame for what I suffer today. Diaspora living happy because I have created a killing field. I know my time is short. Karuna bloody bas betrayed my dream. Not only Sornam many more missing now. Either they have gone India or they may dead. Tamilshit always human rights. NObody giving me any info. I only come to know info through this nasty DW. Without this singala I could not even know Poonakar felled. Oh appa puker it's better if u killed me when I born. But nw only thing I know when I die I will become a sun god and people make kovil and worship me like a god. I have already orderd my gal kollas put me ahead of Shiva and Ganesh. If someone pray them woithout praying me first my gal kolloas will shoot them. I only sorry about Diaspora ladies when think their pants get dry without seeing me saluting deads.

I know nw many Diaspora all over one day they will create a Eelam all over the world. I want Diaspora to teach their children about me, killing, suicide and racism.

Bullet proof when Potta order me to come up I escort in a bicycle. I will never go Bukket proof. Het Mahen , peter, Brown, Keppetiya please update more info Tamilshit nw repeating humon right humon right, bloody shit.
(Before I born my father had singala friend and he they use to come to my house to drink kasiya with my appa. One day he was drunk slept like a dead. Other day he found singala people inside my house. Oh that story, Since that my father hate singala and he even hate me he never called me as a son. I have grown up like a Avajathaka. I think like hitler hate jews I have a reason to hate Singala, )

bunkerhide_pukabaharan said...

MRBROWN

"''Due to continuous failures on their part, many LTTE senior 'Commanders' have been stripped of their command and posted to the front by the LTTE leader who still remains in hiding.''
what is bothering you... let him hide as he wishes... U want him to come out..and being killed?.. How many bullet proof cars and motorcyel need ur VIPs to travel around Colombo..and how many roads are closed..? 1st see ur own back yards.. "

aRE YOU CRAZY? EVEN DW THIS DAMN SINGALA CRAZY?

It's only me who know how I feel as a God sun living under 150 feet deep bunker. My heart beating every time when black tinger kollo telling me Kfir is coming. I even wear pampers (Thanks to norway sent many) . I am suffering with diabete, Cyrosis, HIV, and kidney. I dont have hospital to go and get treatements free. I have no freedom man everyday living like a dead. Only me know how I suffer now. Depression all over my jungle body. My appa who to blame for what I suffer today. Diaspora living happy because I have created a killing field. I know my time is short. Karuna bloody bas betrayed my dream. Not only Sornam many more missing now. Either they have gone India or they may dead. Tamilshit always human rights. NObody giving me any info. I only come to know info through this nasty DW. Without this singala I could not even know Poonakar felled. Oh appa puker it's better if u killed me when I born. But nw only thing I know when I die I will become a sun god and people make kovil and worship me like a god. I have already orderd my gal kollas put me ahead of Shiva and Ganesh. If someone pray them woithout praying me first my gal kolloas will shoot them. I only sorry about Diaspora ladies when think their pants get dry without seeing me saluting deads.

I know nw many Diaspora all over one day they will create a Eelam all over the world. I want Diaspora to teach their children about me, killing, suicide and racism.

Bullet proof when Potta order me to come up I escort in a bicycle. I will never go Bukket proof. Het Mahen , peter, Brown, Keppetiya please update more info Tamilshit nw repeating humon right humon right, bloody shit.
(Before I born my father had singala friend and he they use to come to my house to drink kasiya with my appa. One day he was drunk slept like a dead. Other day he found singala people inside my house. Oh that story, Since that my father hate singala and he even hate me he never called me as a son. I have grown up like a Avajathaka. I think like hitler hate jews I have a reason to hate Singala, )

Tambi, Bunker Tambi, Talaivar,,,SUNGGGOOOODDDD

bunkerhide_pukabaharan said...

Before I born my father had singala friend and he they use to come to my house to drink kasiya with my appa. One day he was drunk slept like a dead. Other day he found singala people inside my house. Oh that story, Since that my father hate singala and he even hate me he never called me as a son. I have grown up like a Avajathaka. I think like hitler hate jews I have a reason to hate Singala, )

Tambi, Bunker Tambi, Talaivar,,,SUNGGGOOOODDDD

bunkerhide_pukabaharan said...

Before I born my father had singala friend and he they use to come to my house to drink kasiya with my appa. One day he was drunk slept like a dead. Other day he found singala people inside my house. Oh that story, Since that my father hate singala and he even hate me he never called me as a son. I have grown up like a Avajathaka. I think like hitler hate jews I have a reason to hate Singala, )

Tambi, Bunker Tambi, Talaivar,,,SUNGGGOOOODDDD

bunkerhide_pukabaharan said...

Before I born my father had singala friend and he they use to come to my house to drink kasiya with my appa. One day he was drunk slept like a dead. Other day he found singala people inside my house. Oh that story, Since that my father hate singala and he even hate me he never called me as a son. I have grown up like a Avajathaka. I think like hitler hate jews I have a reason to hate Singala, )

Tambi, Bunker Tambi, Talaivar,,,SUNGGGOOOODDDD

bunkerhide_pukabaharan said...

Before I born my father had singala friend and he they use to come to my house to drink kasiya with my appa. One day he was drunk slept like a dead. Other day he found singala people inside my house. Oh that story, Since that my father hate singala and he even hate me he never called me as a son. I have grown up like a Avajathaka. I think like hitler hate jews I have a reason to hate Singala, )

Tambi, Bunker Tambi, Talaivar,,,SUNGGGOOOODDDD

bunkerhide_pukabaharan said...

Before I born my father had singala friend and he they use to come to my house to drink kasiya with my appa. One day he was drunk slept like a dead. Other day he found singala people inside my house. Oh that story, Since that my father hate singala and he even hate me he never called me as a son. I have grown up like a Avajathaka. I think like hitler hate jews I have a reason to hate Singala, )

Tambi, Bunker Tambi, Talaivar,,,SUNGGGOOOODDDD

Malin said...

Guys though we might be facing high casualties in the national front looks like very soon EP will be ours again. Cant wait to till that day. We should commend those guys in 55 & 53 who are facing death head on.

GOD BLESS SLDF.

Sujeewa Kokawala said...

Blogger TropicalStorm said...

So the troops 'observed' the body guards rush to help the injured leader...very noble of them to stand to attention and let the casulaty evacuation.

...

Looks like they failed in that objective, totally and miserably. Some one needs to spell it out to them; the only observation you do in such a situation is to make sure the cross hairs of your gun sights are on your enemy and keep firing, until the target stops dead.


On what grounds do you call they did not. DW was not literal in his sentence. I'm sure TF3 soldiers fired like hell and Swarnam and guards ran like hell. There cannot be hollywood type moments where foes wait and look in the eye.

This is the first time ordinary SLDF at least met with a pussycat leader at fire range. And I think they did the best. And if lucky we will get another "brigadier" promoted on his arrival to hell.

Rana said...

Hi all Patriots,

If you have seen the film called "FEW GOOD ME" which is about USA army at Gauntanamobay, you remember concluding sentiment of that mater piece:

Army is supposed to fight for those who cannot fight themselves:

How true this is with SLDF, they not fighting only for sinhalese. They are also fighting to save innocent tamil civilians those who trapped in Wanni without being able to fight the oppressive and facist terror outfit of Vesapillei.

Rana said...

Sorry folks, it shoul read "FEW GOOD MEN" my apology.

Asithri said...

Rana

I saw your earlier post re. this WesaBalla…well mate if you think this undercover “thamileelamist” motherfucker is a “SL patriot” (when you say “I am ready to shake hand with you and march forward to rebuild our mother land) it gives me the shivering jiberees! LMSSAO!

No, as my brother Moshey very rightly said,

[this WESAPALA suckkillaiya is a terrorist pretending to be a patriot. like an unpaid slut the bitch goes after people complaing about 1983 begging for lost virginity."]

As well, MohammedZ warned about this filthy bitch taking in all the new bloggers herein for a ride by saying:

[The junior bloggers here are taken in by Wijayapalam who is a hardcore LTTE agent pretending otherwise. The ones who have been here for long know his leanings. He was exposed by us a while ago as an LTTE agent when I happened to call Charles Anthony a ponnaya, that touched a raw nerve and his true feelings came out and we exposed him. He has managed to convince the junior bloggers with his sheer and utter boring crap that he is anti LTTE, but Priyashantha and Asihtri keep him on his toes, and continue to expose him. Don't fall for his tricks guys. Tigers don't change their stripes.]

Yes, most of us oldie bloggers here have seen his “tamileelamist” leanings and the pathetic thing is this filthy Sakkiliya has no balls to identify himself as such, but very cunningly comes under a Sinhela “Wijayapala”...!!! This is his way of getting the buy-in from SL patriots here.

Sure he writes anti-LTTE stuff here just so that he can further convince SL patriots that he himself is a true SL patriot.

No, this filthy bastard belongs to a different class of Tamil racists – not the grade 5 drop out kind – and his mission is to subtly cut in and destroy SL patriots’ determination to keep Sri Lanka – A ONE SRI LANKA! He attempts to do this often by re-writing SL history. As well, it is no secret that a certain “selected” segment of Tamil racists are today furious with the LTTE and VP (VesaParaya) for ruining their grand design to grab “thamileelam” from a hapless Sri Lanak by behaving crassly violent and acting stupid (like killing Rajiv G)….so, yes, get used to the idea that you will see more and more of this type of undercover thamileelamist coming into these blogs (where SL patriots roam) and criticizing the LTTE maggots.

I appeal, once again, to all SL Motherland loving patriots – Do not be misled by this undercover thamileelamist, backboneless (given his cowardice to identify himself for what he is!), Ponna-paraya!

LMSSAO!!!

OaO Asithri

Asithri said...

WesaBalla

[University Teachers for Human Rights-Jaffna (UTHR-J)]

Ho ho ho…now the cover is blown uh?

How very true! UTHR-J is a carbon copy of you – criticize the LTTE while also giving a good battering to the GOSL/Sinhelas of Sri Lanka knowing well that this is NOT an equal trade-off!

Criticizing a terrorist group vs. battering a democratically elected government – yes, the Tamil racist UTHR-J whore-bastards/bitches figured out long ago is not an equal trade-off!

Welcome UTHR-J bitch…stay on as I have a ceremony coming up for you…that is I plan on castrating you and shoving your fungi-donga up your ARSE!

LMSSAO!!!

OaO Asithri

Asithri said...

WesaBalla

[However if I was really a Tamil, I would not have identified myself here with a Sinhala name like "wijayapala."]

How very touching honest! LMSSAO!!!

Yep, sounds exactly like how when VP (VesaPonnaya) says “LTTE never kills Sinhela civilians”…!!!

LMSSAO!!!

OaO Asithri

Rana said...

Asithri,

Brother, I will listen to you and Wijayapala with equal respect, until I am sure he is pro LTTP.

By the same token, he himself said he is against LTTP. Any enemy of VP and LTTP is friend of mine.

If you read his answers to my six questions, you will see, wher I am coming from.

If he has lied to me, then he is only degrading himself as a lier.

So, matter ends there, mate.

After all we follow common english law which is different to french law.

"All are innocent until proven guilty".

Asithri said...

Selvi

[The killings must stop, from both sides. We need a ceasefire immeadiately. Both sides need to come to the negotiating tables and discuss a peaceful plan of seperation.]

Really?

Selvi my Tamil racist thangaatchi…how about we first give you a test and if you pass it, we can entertain your..errr…rather important proposition…

So, how about you first lining up all the SLDF bravehearts from let’s say TF1 (i.e. the ones who buggered you LTTE whore-bitches and captured Poonaryn) and showing how fast you can give them all fellatio (i.e. “BJ” in case you are wondering what the fcuk it is!)

As for:

[All Eelam citizens, please remember your fallen cadres in your daily prayers.]

I do. Everyday when I pray I ask that the fallen “maalathi-brigade” virgins will reappear magically and partake in a good gang-bang with my poras here!

LMSSAO!!!

OaO Asithri

Moshe Dyan said...

asithri,

i think by now he would have got conceived!

we have reason to celebrate.

SLA is heading southwards from muhamalai. the big news about EPS will come anyday.

attackers of dresden will be ashamed of themselves!!!

JAPURAALWIS said...

Muhamalai Captured !
http://my.nowpublic.com/world/muhamalai-captured-heavy-fighting-erupt-muhamalai-sri-lanka

Asithri said...

Rana

[Brother, I will listen to you and Wijayapala with equal respect, until I am sure he is pro LTTP]

Brother, with all due respect, this is where I see you missing the point.

Read my post (and the post of other patriots like Mohammed, Moshey) carefully…

Yes, of course, this bastard IS anti LTTP…but that does not make him innocent at purveying subtle Tamil racism in this blog! Just because someone is anti-LTTP does not make him/her innocent if he/she is a Tamil racist out to ridicule/denigrate the Sinhelas of Sri Lanka and achieve the same end – a separate state for the world’s “stateless” Tamils.

Mate you are new in this blog, but some of us have seen this whore-bitch going to bat for the “thamileelamists” (yes, NOT for the LTTP) viewpoint of what Sri Lanka has been / should be…so, whether you are going to allow this subtle Tamil racist whore-bitch to take you for a ride is entirely your prerogative brother – either way, I have no qualms about it as my own convictions are solid!

How this all started off was (as Moshey said) when this whore-bitch started to ridicule/attack SL patriots here (of course, that is what “thamileelamists” do at every turn – ridicule/attack SL patriots!) and that’s when the Ponnaya fell afoul with yours truly, humble OaOA here! LMSSAO!!!

OaO Asithri

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Asithri said...

Moshey

[asithri, i think by now he would have got conceived!]

LMSSAO!!! Truly LMSSAO!!!

I won’t be surprised if the whore-bitch lays an egg – knowing that Muhamalai has fallen!

Quite expect the bitch to come in here and pick on another Sinhela hero and denigrate him by re-writing SL history (no, it will not be Anagarika Dharmapala as he insulted AD enough already..typical of whore “thamileelamists”…!)

The day is not too far off when we surgically “search & destroy” these types of unarmed, traitorous motherfcukers for good! What they did to hurt Motherlanka is unforgivable and as such, their punishment too will be unforgiving!

OaO Asithri

The Punisher said...

Hey Eelamists,

You messed with the wrong Lions...

Asithri said...

The Punisher

[Hey Eelamists, You messed with the wrong Lions...]

Ho ho ho...!!!

Well said brother...yep, these armed and unarmed "eelamists" are truly getting buggered up - in and out of the battle field!

ONE SRI Lanka for all! No ifs and but about this!

Anyone who disagrees can go and live in TamilNadu (Translated: Tamil Nation)!

LMSSAO!!!

OaO Asithri

Asithri said...

OK time to fly off into the night...

Got to attend a memorial mass in the local church for a local whore named "mothereelam" who was run over by a battle tank just yesterday...

LMSSAO!!!

Catch you patriots later...

OaO Asithri

Ninja said...

# Muhamalei Falls.....

/the impregnable muhamali ltte main FDL fell to the govt forces in the final trust in todays morning battle.ltte despite a fierce defense could not hold on to the SLA onslaught.the fighting came as one of the biggest costs to the forces.I`m not going to mention the casualty details of the forces for the last 4 days here in the mattle of mk and kilalai.but what was fought was the most horrendous battles 4th elam war has seen so far than any other place taken so far.

the top brass were of the opinion that the battle was an unavoidable prerequisite and thus had to be made.they too were aware that the costs are greater but was a move that had to be made.in the battle that ensued it came to light just how much badly the ltte wanted to hold on...

ltte cadres were found dead inside their bunkers chained to it...the tigers gave every go to defend its `National Front`...this victory is neither the presidents nor the commanders...

this victory belongs to the hundreds of sons of soil who paid the sacrifice most would not even see in their lives for the motherland in muhamalai and nk in one of the biggest ever battle fought by the armed forces in the 4th elam war...

its their tribute...this battle`s victory is theirs.../

Rana said...

Asithri,

Don't worry brother, I will keep my eyes open and ears tuned. This what Lord Buddha sai in Kalama Sutthra.

Don't believe because somebody say so!
Don't believe because some books say so!

Don't believe because adults and teachers say so!

Believe the things that are right for you after proven with practice.

I an new to the blog, so Iwill be cautious as per your advise, mate.

Thank you.

Rana said...

Ninja,

I thought is ts only the first FDL, have our boys took full control over the area? are they marching down, mate?

Arsath said...

Sam,

Thanks for the beautiful comments, yes mother Lanka is priceless. I think once we are done with LTTE we should get rid of this kind of bullshit politicians.. Who try to win everything with logic..

adrian said...

Even though these Barbarians show as they live, inner heart they are dead for the merciless, inhuman killings they did.As to natural law all these Butchers have to leave fast with blood pouring, muscles scattered..their days are very very numbered..God bless the heaven in the Earth..Sri Lanka..

silentknight said...

Muhamalai looks bloody, but at least if we can be decisive in this thrust, the lives of our brothers are not in vain.....

"Godspeed my brothers"

"Army shifted its mode of operations from active defence to all out offence in the Northern theatre on Saturday (Nov 15)- defense.lk"

Pivithuru said...

LTTE Killing 150 civillians VIDEO!!


http://www.srilankantube.com/video/LTTE-Terrorist-Attack-they-kill

Jooona said...

Ela Ela......

TropicalStorm said...

Muhamalai should be softened up with air strikes and long range arti. Now that we own Pooneryn, maybe that would be a good place to implement a 'scorched earth' (Spetznaz) policy specially for this loaction and Elephant Pass.

Tt is important that we limit the number of escapees from these two locations, to prevent mullaitivu becomming too bloody.

TropicalStorm said...

Apino

Thanks for the pictures. Will publish them shortly in

http://srilankan-news.blogspot.com/

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TropicalStorm said...

Now that the northern area is being cleared, the muslims who have been living in camps in Puttalam area after being evicted by the LTTE can be resettled in these cleared areas.
While reverting to the original population demography for the area, that will also give those people justice.

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