The 58 Division now advancing north following the fall of Kilinochchi is 2kms away from Elephant Pass. In most probability, EPS will fall by tomorrow. Already LTTE has started withdrawing to Chalai by sea. The Mech Infantry has not even been deployed yet.
Meanwhile heavy fighting was reported this evening at Chilawatte in the general area Mullayaweli in Mulaitivu. 29 Charles Anthony cadres were killed and another 28 injured in the fighting. 14 soldiers were allso injured. No deaths to own troops.
Friday, January 2, 2009
EPS to fall very soon
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All what you mentioned are already in effect in SL, but they need to be fine tuned... as in any system.
What I wanted to highlight was the hidden message of the statement of the US official... harping on Tamil issues...
US, as a friend, should talk solotions on the basis of Sri Lankan identity (which both you and I agree)but unfortunately I didn't find that word in the statement.
I am waiting for Mahen's next report... Ha Ha
I saved Irudina headline PDF before they remove that ..he he
http://www.irudina.lk/
This is false within the context of Sri Lanka.
Only intelligent and unbiased people can understand this. We are a nation who can't think of doing something beyone 'white vans'. When I protested, someone suggested "if I don't like it, change the color to pink".
"Like Pansilu said, what matter is the content of the message, not the messenger.
P.O."
Some have mentioned handles from the TLA that I know. I am glad that they are here and doing well!
As for those the histories you have with each other, I am sure it is just too much for me to know or deal with, except I can only hope you will bury the proverbial hatchets some how.
P.O.
ReallyCold,
I have dealt with likes of Pansilu and Wijayapala in the past. Their modus operandi is to hijack other agendas. They are not here to discuss SL defence but to spread their political garbage. Pansilu is somebody who really tried to drive a wedge between me and my full Sinhala cousins with true racial slur and now he says that I am a racist. He tried it really hard and failed. That is why I call him a nitwit.
Pansilu the nitwit,
Your racial slur will not take me anywhere. it will only reveal your hidden agenda. FYI, I can care less about your socialist ideals in this blog.
Really Cold,
Are you from Kurunegala ? lol
Sam Perera said...
"supporters operating under various names try to give out their own version of history."
History is always subjected to interpretation anyway. If you are so sure and have solid facts, why worry?
"There are some subtleties in expressions we can identify the intent (or hidden) of the writer. "
Sam, don't even try it. You have failed on that few times. You called me a 'communist', right?
"One can say that I am Portuguese bastard but it does not mean anything. "
Actually you are and 70% of Sri Lankan population are perera, silva, fernando, etc :)
(sorry, this is a joke, I have to put the disclaimer before you explode).
Sujeewa
I know you are interested in diASSpora mind set. Please visit Mahen's blog... Now monkeys are showing NEW dancing styles.. Ha Ha
Observer
" Really Cold,
Are you from Kurunegala ? lol"
Darn, I thought no one will find out.
If you click on my name, you will actually find out where I am from.
If I sum up all my fellow blogger's judgment on me, I am
LTTE/UNP(RW)/NGO/JVP/JHU/Liberal/Communist/Woman from Kurunagala.
Ninja,
Don't say, it is a ego problem. I know that you are prsently living in SL. You should know better than anybody what our problems are within.
As I said many times before patriotism has many levels.
Lowest is the patriots shout for cheap popularity and some other gains.
Highest is really concerned about the well being of mother land.
INbetween there are many other levels from good to bad.
If you want to talk, start writing otherwise don't poke your head slightly to save yourself or make something ridiculous.
Really-Cold,
Kurunagala is good but not central enough to encourage unity and promote diversity in all regions. The idea is to stop the creation of ethnic ghettos. I feel having Trinco as adminstrative capital is perfect.
P.O.,
What caught my attention was the fact that your posts were deleted by DefenceWire since you talked about some of SLA chess moves. It seems that you are knowledgeable military issues and you are passionate political issues. Either way, you really intrigue me. I wish you good luck in your political discussions and I firmly believe that TLA is the best place for such dialogues, not this defence blog.
Really Cold,
To me you are a good patriot and I have high regard for you. I value your services here more than most of others.
The real problem with this blog is the: "SAMAHARA MEHARAK PATAU TIKAK MEKA AYITHI KARA GANNA HADANAWA HARIYATA UNGE AMMAGE BUDALE WAGE".
"WENA EKKENUKATA OLUWA USSANNA DENNE NE".
IT IS A TYPICAL SRI LANKAN MENTALITY.
Now prabha has lost everything, his eelam dreams have been shattered, So he says, thinking about old days..
Jeewithe tharuna kale..
Koti kellanta ariye..
Nolabe eelam rajje..
sithu se pathuu se..
Sincethe Vietkong Army defeat of US army, I think this is the greatest. So, at this time SLA should be the best army in the world.
All retired and present SLA Commanders and battle field Commanders should WRITE all their experiences and related things and those things should be archived. IT will be great knowledge for other people
[[Observer said...
I saved Irudina headline PDF before they remove that ..he he
http://www.irudina.lk/]]
Gud idea. There were some gon stories regarding kili in other pages as well. Better to same them as well.
Reallycold look like ML from LNP
ReallyCold,
If somebody really wants to talk about SL history they should take it to a higher venue, not this place of defence enthusiasts. I hope you understand that much. Knowing what this blog is about, Wiajayapala tries to engage in discussions not appropriate for this blog. From my very little history knowledge I know that wijayapala tries to be a pundit among less knowledgeable. Which is a pathetic joke.
As for you, you think that world problems can be solved with ideal conditions that never exist like advent of a visionary leader who will act like the wizard. That is a hallmark of socialist thinking. We neither have wizards or conditions to elect a wizard. This is an imperfect world full of imperfect people. Therefore it will take a long time to solve the ethnic problem in its entirety, perhaps never.
Pansilu, take it easy dude.
Don't let people sneak under your skin. Have fun pulling their tails and seeing they angrily chase you.
Years ago, I used to go into forums full of Tamils like that and there were handful of Sinhalese. Those Tamils have vanished and I feel like some Sinhalese have taken their place.
"Pirunu kale diya nosale" (in a vessel with narrow neck, the water shakes the most when it is half than full).
My wish came true!
All sakkilias gone to Mahen's blog.
Thank you Mahen...
/Pansilu said...
Ninja
Don't say, it is a ego problem.
If you want to talk, start writing otherwise don't poke your head slightly to save yourself or make something ridiculous./
/Pansilu (also) said...
Dogs can bark but I will write any thing I want./
Pottu said...
" Reallycold look like ML from LNP"
I assume you meant to say sound like.
What is ML and LNP?
Observer extracted kaatikuddupaan's words from Mahen's blog thus...
[Best thing he can do now is hand over the light arms to the tamils to hide all over our areas and if Sinhala try to destroy us then we can hit back with Iraqi style insurgence.]
Many people, and foreign countries to boot, said militarily defeating the LTTE was impossible, that we have to accept the partition of Sri Lanka as they advocated.
SLA's current victories, that will deny safe havens within Sri Lanka to a nearly conventional terrorist army is the first step in giving lie to that flawed notion.
The integrity of the United States was not preserved by acceding to partition, but by the force of arms in a brutal Civil war. All that the US has achieved as one united country extending from coast to coast in the subsequent 150 years were enabled by the clear vision, will and determination of a heroic and far-sighted president, who said Hell No!
The post-war phase in Sri Lanka will require complete revamping of our governing structures, eliminating all notions of devolution based on ethnic, religious and linguistic considerations, totally rejecting the 13th Amendment to the Consitution as a poison pill designed to yield in peace what the LTTE sought to extract in war: the breakup of Sri Lanka.
Kaatikuddupaan voices the residual hope of the Eelamists, that a guerilla conflict can be resurrected successfully in Sri Lanka to achieve what they have failed to achieve to date. The conventional wisdom is that this kind of warfare cannot be defeated.
NONSENSE...let me tell you why! Such a guerilla war can be defeated, because the Sinhala people who are waging the current war are not some foreign army transplanted from thousands of miles away to fight a war in a country in which they have no intrinsic gut-wrenching stake. This is our motherland, and we, unlike Tamil people who can run to Tamil Nadu, have nowhere else to call our own. This is it, the final frontier ...this is where we live or die as a people.
Guided by the compassionate tolerant tenets of Buddhism, Sri Lanka has achieved much more social equity than India, which we call our Aryabhumi. Ask yourself why India is still largely illiterate, while much more social progress has been achieved in Lanka...and at the root of it you will find the benign influence of the majority religion...Buddhism. Guided by those largely Buddhist values we imbibed in our formative years, the majority Sinhala community has always been ready and willing to give EQUAL RIGHTS to all minorities, but mindful of our colonial history, NOT MORE AND NOT LESS. We are ready to live, and let live, but will not yield one iota to demands to revive the rotten framework of colonial servitude that our people emerged from 60 years ago.
Sri Lankan Tamils who want to live only among Tamils in a Tamil-only state should take a hard look at existing inequities and communal strife in Tamil Nadu, and compare their lives in Sri Lanka before the Eelam struggle began to that of the Indian Tamils then. It is not without reason that many Indian Tamils voted with their feet in seeking refuge in Sri Lanka as illegal immigrants to Sri Lanka. Racist dreams are very similar to the pleasure derived by a beggar scratching his own wound and dies of the infection.
In the post-war period, there will be no areas of Sri Lanka that will be handed over to people of one ethnicity. The Vanni, where the defeated LTTE hope to hide their weapons, will have an omnipresent and vigilant Army and National Guard, and resident people of all ethnicities, Sinhalese and Tamils alike, who will make it impossible for guerillas to hide in the forests, or in the cities, villages and towns.
The only possible refuge for these terrorists will be in Tamil Nadu, but our coast will be guarded by an ever vigilant and expanded Navy, Coast Guard, Armed forces, and a National Guard, based all around and within the country.
There will be no place in Sri Lanka for terrorists of any kind, LTTE or any other, to survive and grow. You will have no safe havens to hide in, no anti-national political parties to represent you, no platforms to yell from, and no NGOs and INGOs to aid and abet your terrorist activities. Your arms and explosives will be found and destroyed, and the Vanni opened up and repopulated. You will be hunted from pillar to post, and eliminated from Sri Lanka, so that law-abiding native peoples of Sri Lanka can co-exist amicably as we have for centuries.
Therefore, to potential terrorists in Sri Lanka, I say...either live as a Sri Lankan with equal rights and responsibilities, or go to Tamil Nadu if you want live among Tamils only and live with the consequences; terrorism in Sri Lanka will only bring you death.
BUGGER SAM,
//Wiajayapala tries to engage in discussions not appropriate for this blog.//
Who the hell are yiu to decide what is appropriate or not here.
"BALLATA ETHI WADAKUTH NE HEMIN GAMANAKUTH NE KIWWALU"
Therefore MYOB bugger.
It is intriguing that there are so many heated exchanges here! I suppose the form of the internet allows that over and above rational discourse. I have been guilty of it too.
ReallyCold, you had quoted me, I think, in the same sentence with "white vans". As I know about the extra-judicial killings in Colombo (and I do not condone them), I am confused about your post, so would you care to clarify?
Sam, yes DW had it in for me. So, I stopped analyzing military moves, except in vague terms. I rather think they got Killi due to the 59th's thrust upwards, threatening the supply lines, and not just because of terribly costly frontal assaults by the 57th and 58th. (DW, I hope you will allow me this much space to look at the recent past only!) Military strategy is a passion of mine too, while political processes are my profession. The two complement each other well.
Ananda, you have some interesting ideas, if I may say so. The more useful ones are political. (The SLA does not need major roads to get the LTTE anymore, as there is perhaps no other military in the world better at jungle warfare than the SLA's special forces units. Indeed, the LTTE is mighty anxious to not engage the SLA in the jungle, and instead run to the safety of towns and behind civilians.) For politics, do visit The Lanka Academic’s general discussion section and join some interesting people. I particularly want you to visit the constitutional thread in the general section. http://www.theacademic.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5525
Ninja, wotz da url of Mahen's blog from where you copy this chatter?
Pansilu,
""SAMAHARA MEHARAK PATAU TIKAK MEKA AYITHI KARA GANNA HADANAWA HARIYATA UNGE AMMAGE BUDALE WAGE".
"WENA EKKENUKATA OLUWA USSANNA DENNE NE".
IT IS A TYPICAL SRI LANKAN MENTALITY."
I couldn't have said it better. Perhaps you are talking about yourself and wijayapala. Just read the what Defencewire says in the title "The Web's Fastest And Most Accurate Defence News With An Analysis!" I am not sure if this is a Sri Lankan mentality, but you also have the shameless habit of diverting the topic away from Defence. This blog most certainly is not mine or your mothers wealth but learn to live my the blog creators intent. Perhaps, you can start your own blog to talk about history and politics. It is a free service from Google and feel free to ask if you need any help in creating your own blog.
Sam Perera
Wijapala or any others here aren't that much of a problem for me. We are no real soldiers at the front line and there is nothing for us to complain here, right?
I am not a socialist (wanna to see my beaten down portfolio?) :)
There are no rules for this blog, it is like free for all. Let people say whatever they want to say. If we listen to one another, perhaps we will all learn something new.
It seems you have accepted the status quo and I have not. Some say you can't change the world but yourself. One day I will realize that.
PO"
"ReallyCold, you had quoted me, I think, in the same sentence with "white vans". As I know about the extra-judicial killings in Colombo (and I do not condone them), I am confused about your post, so would you care to clarify?"
It wasn't about you and I am glad there is one other person don't condone them without me.
I think I was trying to say that lot of people here are justifying them and we have a long way to go in Sri Lanka having a normal system.
isurujosh
http://ellalanforce.blogspot.com/
Surprising you missed the world's most entertaining blog.. Ha Ha
P.O.,
"Sam, yes DW had it in for me. So, I stopped analyzing military moves, except in vague terms. I rather think they got Killi due to the 59th's thrust upwards, threatening the supply lines, and not just because of terribly costly frontal assaults by the 57th and 58th. (DW, I hope you will allow me this much space to look at the recent past only!) Military strategy is a passion of mine too, while political processes are my profession. The two complement each other well."
Just like you my American friend, I follow this war with passion. Obviously we don't have all the pieces of information like MI. However, I too see very interesting moves by SL Forces. Some moves by our forces looked not that bright early days, however the master plan seems to be very well thought of. I hope that our commanders will document the moves for future anti terrors ops. Perhaps, we can talk about some moves in retrospect after we establish full territorial control of the land. Until then I prefer to remain tight lipped about the patterns I see.
ReallyCold said..
[to achieve your mission ]
Could you please explain your understanding of my mission?
Pansilu,
You are with a disturbed mind.
You said
To Sam:
1. "Who the hell are yiu to decide what is appropriate or not here."
To PO:
2. "Asithry and Sam sakkilyas are few of our skin heads. That is why we are kicking them."
To Sam:
3. "So, my advise, keep your f***ing mouth shut or I will make it shut for you."
To Moshe:
4. "Moshi,
Why don't you stick to defence matters without being a witch hunter."
To PO:
5. "I am against indecent sakkiliyas irrespective to his/her race or ethnicity."
---------------
මල්ලි, දොරෙ සද්දෙය් පඩේ සද්දෙය් අපි දන්නවා.
Ananda
High literacy don't count in Sri Lanka since that hasn't taken us anywhere. We need to rise above this fundamental requirement and it is not happening.
Sri Lanka hasn't created the kind of leadership India has created over the past decades. Modern Sri Lankans have abused Buddhism much more than their historic counterparts.
Please don't compare us with India. I rather you compare us with Singapore of Malaysia (or even Thailand).
Do you see this Buddhist inspired level of tolerance on this forum? I don't think so. If we don't have that among ourselves, forget loving minorities :)
"Guided by the compassionate tolerant tenets of Buddhism, Sri Lanka has achieved much more social equity than India, which we call our Aryabhumi. Ask yourself why India is still largely illiterate, while much more social progress has been achieved in Lanka...and at the root of it you will find the benign influence of the majority religion...Buddhism.
ReallyCold,
"It seems you have accepted the status quo and I have not. Some say you can't change the world but yourself. One day I will realize that."
No I don't accept the status quo either. However, I don't think that there are any dramatic ways of ending this conflict. One way or other, this will get dragged on at a different level. Change will come but it will be very slow to come.
Ananda
your mission = "The GAME" above written by you.
Sam
I fully back the way we are trying to end the conflict.
I don't however this admin is capable of taking us to the next level.
The main two factors drive LTTE are civilians under LTTE (man power) and diASSpora (funding). Following are from Mahen's blog. Do they really believe what they say or do they say so just becuz they have to say like that?
/thiru said...
tamils would have got raped, tortured, and killed all through the country and the ones left would have been cleaning toilet with no access to universities because they are tamils./
/Upul said...
Tamil civilians are hunted down like dogs in the streets simply for being Tamil./
Ananda,
If the problem was lack of equal rights, then a solution was found long time ago. Equal rights are based on the rights of the individual which more of less is in place. The rights which a few Jaffna based Tamils seek is the right to be considered equal as the Sinhala majority. As ridiculous as it sounds, the 50:50 demand, Homeland etc are all devised to circumvent the reality of being a minority. Whenever they mean "equal rights" they mean some kind of affirmative action where any Tamil is held in equal place as any Sinhalese.
/North-East is our Tamil homeland/
And Canada, USA, UK, NZ, Australia, France, ... Ha Ha
Panhinda said...
" Kurunagala is good but not central enough to encourage unity and promote diversity in all regions. The idea is to stop the creation of ethnic ghettos. I feel having Trinco as adminstrative capital is perfect."
The best way to stop so called 'ethnic ghettos' (I consider this as a strong negative word) is the 'C' word.
Colonization that is.
I promote ethnic integration as a way to avoid creation of conflicts like this for many decades to come.
If Trinco is the answer, so be it.
I hope someone can do a computer model to find where exactly the ethnic center of Sri Lanka.
Perhaps a good undergraduate project idea.
/Whenever they mean "equal rights" they mean some kind of affirmative action where any Tamil is held in equal place as any Sinhalese./
Yep, just like a carbon copy of SL but in 100% tamil. Tamil president, taml PM, tamil ministers, tamil judiciary, tamil tamil tamil... 100% pure holly...
[The main two factors drive LTTE are civilians under LTTE (man power) and diASSpora (funding). Following are from Mahen's blog. Do they really believe what they say or do they say so just becuz they have to say like that?]
Ninja,
If you can kill/rape/burn 3000+ innocent Tamils in 83 for the loss of 13 SLA personnel, you guys had every facet of the racism in the books.
I remember when I travel from Jaffna to Kili in 80s, it was always nightmare at the EPS where SLA always harass Tamils. Introduction of LTTE, Tamils started to feel little secured. If not for LTTE, Tamil voices never heard in the mainstream Sinhala people who only started to understand Tamils in last decade or so.
ReallyCold,
"There are no rules for this blog, it is like free for all. Let people say whatever they want to say. If we listen to one another, perhaps we will all learn something new."
The author intended this to be a defence blog. Other than some LTTE stooges, most of us gathered here to read about SL defence ops since 2006. In early days, DefenceWire deleted irrelevant posts also. After all, why do we have to hijack a blog when we can create a new blog for other purposes.
ReallyCold,
"I fully back the way we are trying to end the conflict.
I don't however this admin is capable of taking us to the next level."
I fully back this effort and I have made it my personal quest to not let somebody destabilize the government in this critical moment. Once we regain full territorial control we can all go for political solutions. However, need of the hour is a sable and strong government.
Panhinda
I thought Tamils rejected the equal rights and they wanted the equal position which is 50:50.
One strong LTTE backer told me they go no where with equal rights since they are like 15%.
This is a very arrogant demand and gives no regard to Sinhalese or Muslims.
I have a very strong and different position on this.
Sinhalese first has to take the ownership of the Island. Then we have to take the leadership. That leadership has to be morally high enough to make things fair and right for everyone. It should never to be big brother smaller groups.
If the boss is not good and a weak player (which we have now), we let vultures take over.
The best case scenario is a Benevolent Dictator to Sri Lanka until we rebuild fully. Democracy is a curse on us.
/ Bhairav said...
If you can kill/rape/burn 3000+ innocent Tamils in 83 for the loss of 13 SLA personnel, you guys had every facet of the racism in the books./
You guys live with 83. I know diASSpora love 83. That's what gave you visa to your western luxury dream life. But country has moved on.. they live in 2008 with peace where ever there is no LTTE.
/If not for LTTE, Tamil voices never heard in the mainstream Sinhala people who only started to understand Tamils in last decade or so./
I know some people say this. May be LTTE made some sinhalese to understand tamils - what a method they used? eh But sinhalese understood even more.. i.e. Tamils are not same as LTTE and the difference as well... Anyway if the use of LTTE is educating sinhalese and if it is done decade ago why maintain it further?
Ninja,
"Surprising you missed the world's most entertaining blog.. Ha Ha"
I missed it to but I see your point. it is extremely entertaining indeed with stories posted by shear imagination of Mahen.
Really-Cold,
/*
One strong LTTE backer told me they go no where with equal rights since they are like 15%.
*/
But how does the 15% Malayalee minority in Tamil Nadu go anywhere with equal rights? How does the 10% asian minority in UK go anywhere?
What stops 15% Tamils in Sri Lanka going anywhere with just equal rights now? Why do you think you deserve more with "Equal Position" even if it means going against democratic principles?
ReallyCold said..
[High literacy don't count in Sri Lanka since that hasn't taken us anywhere. We need to rise above this fundamental requirement and it is not happening.
Sri Lanka hasn't created the kind of leadership India has created over the past decades. Modern Sri Lankans have abused Buddhism much more than their historic counterparts.
Please don't compare us with India. I rather you compare us with Singapore of Malaysia (or even Thailand).
Do you see this Buddhist inspired level of tolerance on this forum? I don't think so. If we don't have that among ourselves, forget loving minorities :)]
I disagree with you on all of the points you raised except the last. Let me explain:
1. High literacy is one of the very few things that is capable of taking us where we want to go, and that was achieved by successive Sinhala-dominated governments. In India, they have not been able to do that yet. If it were not for this Eelam struggle, we would have exploited the high literacy to achieve much more.
2. I compare Sri Lanka and India, because our ethnic, cultural and religious roots are very similar, and we achieved independence within one year of each other, with little differences in the level of development. The one big difference was that we are a majority Buddhist country whereas India was a majority Hindu country. Caste and sex discrimination has persisted in India, whereas in Sri Lanka they have largely disappeared. Contrary to the narrow view of India as an emerging economic power, India is a cauldron of poverty, intolerance, discrimination, separatism and violence and is on the verge of breaking up today.
The comparison is particularly apt because India presumes to lecture Sri Lanka in a superior way about the appropriateness of the federal model when it is largely failing in India, and the effectiveness of their systems of governance and law enforcement. Their affirmative actions programs based on caste, ethnicity etc instead of poverty has only exacerbated communalism and separatism. I monitor what is happening in India closely, and think the Indian attitude to wards Sri Lanka is given that they are in "it" upto their necks and have messed the basic fundamentals. So, the comparison is very useful to Sri Lankans who have to counter Indian inteference in our affairs, when they cannot manage their own.
3. I disagree with your high opinion of India's political leadership as well. Contrary to your view, I think India has had very poor leaders over the years, excepting possibly the founder Gandhi, the preserver Nehru and the visionary economist Manmohan Singh. India's leaders were way behind Sri Lanka's in discarding the socialist economic system based on distributing a fixed pie of poverty and embracing free-market driven economic model as the only way to grow their economy and uplift their people. Recall that our move towards the free-market was partly why India inflicted Tamil terrorists on Sri Lanka. Indira Gandhi was quite backward in this area, while Manmohan Singh is a breadth of fresh air, and is largely responsible for economic progress we see in India today. This economic progress, however, is shared by only the technocrats and the wealthy. With the possible exception of Kumari Mayawati, there are few Indian leaders who have an Obama-like vision capable of unifying the Indian people.
Certainly, the Little Tigers of Asia (South Korea, Taiwan, Singapore, Hong Kong) are the economies we want to emulate, together with Israel from a defence posture standpoint, but the terrorist problems intervened to prevent that, largely because of Indian interference. Hopefully, we can mimic the economic resurgence of South Korea after the Korean War, but South Korea had a powerful defender...the US...we have no one but ourselves.
Summarizing, I believe the comparison against India is very appropriate, practical and useful in the context of the situation we face and the arguments we need to confront Indian interference.
Your last point on whether I see Buddhist tolerance at this blog, I admit I am very very disappointed there. I see very few willing to rise above the name calling. I try to work with people as they exist, and to ignore the stones hurled my way. None of us have any authority to police others, and it is a fools quest to even attempt to do so...I am not interested in that.
I must say I use Comments Collapse a lot, thanks to Sithsala!
I thank china & pakistan without whom these victories would never have been possible. sinhala as a nation would have ended up much worse than lebanon.
it's an open secret that china virtually arm twisted india to stay away from mahinda so that china's investments & strategic objectives are safe (hambantota harbour etc). pakistan helped cos they obviously wanted to compete with india & earn money on the side.
Fall of EPS is imminent; Battle for Mullaittivu begins
Troops of Army Task Force 1(TF 1 ) are marching into the strategically vital Elephant Pass town, reveal defence sources in the battlefield. The total liberation of the town situated at the entrance to the Jaffna Peninsula is imminent the sources added.
Defence.lk
Wowweeee....Now you see Kilinochchi had more strategic significance than Mullativu. All the strong points collapse like a pack of cards once the Kili-EPS-Muhamalai axis is broken!
Ohoma yan, Ohoma yan!
SamP
/it is extremely entertaining indeed with stories posted by shear imagination of Mahen./
Well, I don't want to say its just his imagination. Mahen is not like the tamilnut editor who has mastered the art of mis-info propaganda. I think he get some details from some one he trusts and he hears what he like to listen (or other guy tell him what he/ diASSpora like to listen such as coming soon counter offensives) and he writes what's in his mind. Finally (and unfortunately for him) it becomes a joke for us.
In contrast Peter (probably due to higher education he has more than Mahen) writes tamilnet type stuff.
I see Mahen as innocent, less educated and due to that misled, but honest, therefore a good guy. But peter is cruel and cunning in his intention. This reminds me 'angulimala story' if you know it.
Also, please leave that guy pansilu alone.. if you read him fully you will see what kind of (mental) issue he is dealing with. I didn't ask this from Asithri becuz I know he will not listen to me, but you may.
AFP reports that US has shown their apprciation to us by declaring that Sri Lanka and LTTE must enter dialogue. It looks like the bribes paid to Obama camp have not gone in vain. May Obama rot in hell!!! Obama is the biggest deceiver of all time. He preaches something and does the exact opposite.
isurujosh ..
That is laughable . obama has not even taken power yet . lol
SLN should not allow LTTE to escape by sea. should get the help from SLAF and should stop that.
SLA did lot of sacrifice. Why SLN can not do the same and watch carefully when they try to escape.
IT is very important to get these escaping LTTE cadres.
Rajendran Gajendran or who ever the guy that LTTE accused as "undialan" is from Kurungela and he has his brother too, Dr. so and so.
Panhinda said..
[If the problem was lack of equal rights, then a solution was found long time ago.]
I didn't say the problem was the lack of equal rights; I said that what we are going to give is still only equal rights, not more, not less.
I agree with you, that the problem was the demand for more rights than the Sinhalese: to wit, sole rights in eelam, and equal rights in the rest of Sri Lanka.
If we are foolish enough to buy an argument like that; that translates to "having you cake and eating it too", who would not want it. We tempted their greed with the possibility of getting that kind of deal, by our military weakness and disunity, and with assistance of Tamil Nadu and India they figured they could get away with it. More rights than the Sinhala people.
Now, we have to assert and enforce the deal they had before all this began, the democratic one of equal citizenship with equal rights and equal responsibilities; no more, no less.
WHERE HAVE ALL DA FAMOUS PUTTY TATS GONE...???
( MODA MAHEN, THAKA THIRU, PEEDOM PITER, PETER PONNADURAI, ASS-IS-IN-RAJIVE )
Guys,
Have you seen "Jet" ? In this troubling times, we miss "Jet".
Ananda-USA,
Equal rights to all sri lankans and equal responsibilities to all.
Agree. However, said is easier than done.
Even most of sinhalese in SL do not have equal rights yet. Majority of sinhalese are poor and their rights are violated by rich and powerfuls on daily basis.
Specially police force is granting more rights to rich and powerfuls while violating innocent poor folks in villages.
Guys like Mervin Silva has violated rights of many people including journalists.
POTTU SAID...
SLA did lot of sacrifice. Why SLN can not do the same and watch carefully when they try to escape.
GOT THE POINT. SLN ALSO DID/DOING A GREAT SERVICE BY DESTROYING LTTE FLOATING ARMORIES. BY DESTROYING THE FLEET IT SAVED MANY ARMY AND CIVILIAN LIVES. THEY INVENTED THE NEW "ARROW BOATS". RECENTLY WE HEARD THAT LTTE IS STILL SMUGGLING ARMS. IT MUST BE STOPPED. EVEN FAT PIG CAN ESCAPE BY SEA. SO THIS IS RED ALERT FOR THEM.
THERE IS ALWAYS ROOM FOR IMPROVEMENT...BUT THE TIME IS RUNNING OUT...!!!
Kaati is trying hard to prove a [non-existent] point in Ellalan Force. He wants SL tamils to turn into AL Qaeda type. But what he misses is taht international Al Qaeda god fathers are genuine, but diaspora is not.
Interesting post.
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kaatikuddupaan said...
we sided with LTTE enough before. Now its time to wipe them out before they wipe our people out.
Also its important to grab their arms and not let it get stolen by the SLA.
All those arms our brothers in Kadal puli worked had in huge risk to bring to give out people true freedom.
Liberate our people by giving them guns.
Then who ever tries to mess around with us we will fight back with bomb and bullet from every house in the North East.
LTTE is just going for a communist dictatorship and its a blessing that the army has wiped them out this much.
We need freedom and true independance but we need to co-operate with the Sinhala people. To prevent them taking advantage of us then grab prabha's guns, hide and wait !
Tamil and Sinhalese wants two different things in their lives in Sri Lanka (if I can stereotype).
Since Tamils did not get whatever they wanted, they thought 50:50 would have been the way.
I agree, it is undemocratic. The government has to get both of them into equal level as far as opportunities are concerned and then make it free for all. That way, 15% won't fee they can't go anywhere with having less number of people.
Most importantly, if Tamil and Sinhalese leaders are sincere towards each other, they can have a common goal than using their own against others.
We have to get out of this mindset of who we are and learn to think we are all Sri Lankans. This kind of mentality exist outside Sri Lanka in certain pockets. We saw that briefly right after Tsunami where Sinhalese extended their love and support to Tamils. It was unfortunate LTTE try to use that opportunity to exploit the situation. Therefore I believe without LTTE we will have a bright future.
"But how does the 15% Malayalee minority in Tamil Nadu go anywhere with equal rights? How does the 10% asian minority in UK go anywhere?
What stops 15% Tamils in Sri Lanka going anywhere with just equal rights now? Why do you think you deserve more with "Equal Position" even if it means going against democratic principles?"
Ananda-USA
It is OK if you disagree. I will never verbally insult you for that :)
In my world, disagreement is a indication that you are thinking about it and it is a good thing than being a ‘yes’ man. We have different POV and that is the disagreement.
" 1. High literacy is one of the very few things that is capable of taking us where we want to go, and that was achieved by successive Sinhala-dominated governments. In India, they have not been able to do that yet. If it were not for this Eelam struggle, we would have exploited the high literacy to achieve much more."
Eelam struggle was pretty much imposed upon us by India. We, the high literate people fell for it. If I take a step back and look at India and Sri Lanka beyond literacy, I compare creativity between two countries. I see India as more creative nation than Sri Lanka. Imagine how many things we import from India. Let’s just take a string hopper maker as an example. Have you ever seen one made in Sri Lanka?
How much % of sarees we wear made in Sri Lanka?
Of cause we can read better than them and that is it. If I take the literate Sri Lanka Vs. literate India, I see we are one step behind. Indians today produce much more quality graduates than us. These graduates are very goal oriented and exactly know what they want to do in their future. During year 2006, University of Chicago MBA school (not quite a premier one, however still a very good one) had larger number of MBAs directly from India. Usually this program cost over $200k. We had none. IIT (The toughest university in the world) has been established with a vision. There is no vision behind none of SL universities. I don’t want to use ‘Eelam struggle’ as an excuse.
2) We have our own versions of discrimination. In fact, Sri Lankans discriminate based on race/gender/age/religion/skin color/caste/social status/connection and you name it. It is true that our degree of discriminating may not be that dramatic as India, thanks to Buddhism. I consider it is still bad for a country having high literacy. Today India is very different and almost a super power. Indian intellectual contribution to world is tremendous (Just look at Intel or Microsoft). The gap between Indian and Sri Lanka intellectual level has grown tremendously. We can be happy about our high literacy rate, it is a useless statistic in this commercial world.
3) You talk about Manmohan Singh . Can you compare his credentials with MR? I think MR doesn’t even come close. We will never have a president like him during next few decades. Yes, India was far behind us. Now, they have gone way passed us. We can blame India for creating LTTE. Then again, it is our fault to not to anticipate such political games.
“Your last point on whether I see Buddhist tolerance at this blog, I admit I am very very disappointed there.”
However, I haven’t seen you speak against it. What I have seen is rather extension of your hand for the brotherhood of troublemakers. I was the only one rose against them without getting down to their level. That is why I say, no victory against LTTE is a win until we can clean up our act.
Rana said...
[Even most of sinhalese in SL do not have equal rights yet. Majority of sinhalese are poor and their rights are violated by rich and powerfuls on daily basis.
Specially police force is granting more rights to rich and powerfuls while violating innocent poor folks in villages.]
It is true that while the laws on the books guarantee equal rights,
in no country do the poor and the rich have EQUAL ACCESS to that justice.
Not even in the US. Here, most people who have a justifiable grievance do not have the money to sue. If the problem is widespread, they get together and file a class-action suit, and many years later they may get a fraction of what they are due, after subtracting attorney's fees.
The issue of unequal access to justice conditioned on the ability to pay for it, IS a serious problem in all democracies. In a communist dictatorship, it is not the rich who have the advantage, but the party beaurocrats who wield power and enjoy state resources. Which system would you rather have; none of them is perfect. But, however imperfect, give me democracy.
Ultimately, a democracy gives you a vote to change the system; it is a heck of a lot better than having no voice at all. The election of Obama after 8 years of misrule by the Republican Bush Administration is an example of that: the American people voiced their frustrations and said ENOUGH!
To be able to do even that, however, you must be endowed with equal rights and equal responsibilities. No US citizen has any rights that depends on his ethnicity, religion or native language (any more), and NO ONE IS ASKING FOR MORE RIGHTS EITHER!
For example, hispanics in hispanic dominated states are not agitating for special rights.
That is precisely what we want in Sri Lanka!
Rana, couldn't agree with you more here.
I like when we don't sugar coat things in SL, that way we have the opportunity to fix them.
" Even most of sinhalese in SL do not have equal rights yet. Majority of sinhalese are poor and their rights are violated by rich and powerfuls on daily basis.
Specially police force is granting more rights to rich and powerfuls while violating innocent poor folks in villages.
Guys like Mervin Silva has violated rights of many people including journalists."
GN/GM guys, will catch you tomorrow.
Pansilu,
I am sorry that you are considering the real patriots who carried the flame when no one even remotely wanted to think of confronting LTTE as skin heads. Asithri and like minded one are not skin heads...they were the guys who motivated the entire nation including you to go after LTTE......and without them you would have been under PONSY RANIL. Without people like them you wont have even this moment to come out and talk like this.
I also love to see them tone down their words...but...why....why.... you need MBRLS...then why do you complain about the collateral from MBRLS.
To sustain the PEACE we are going to harvest..in the very near future....we need guys and gals who are aggressive....and will provide good form of deterrence.
Believe me... there could be moves to smother our victory... there would be action to undermine this monumental achievement....
Against those action we need good form of deterrence.....our set of ICBMs....
And...any one who think otherwise I believe...are not realistic...or still on the PEACE bandwagon..time to jump out.
BRAVE HEART....you won us the pride...you won us the freedom...
...now it is task of each and every one of us....not to...hand over this on a silver platter...to...PONSIES...who wanted to break apart this proud land.
Let us develop a strong deterrence against this....a fire wall...a set of ICBMs.
Let this new year be the best year ever...so far it seems so...and I have no doubts...this is the year I have been waiting for 27 years....ever since I read "Kavudha Kotiya". a debate between Cyril Mathew and TULF MPs.
ReallyCold said...
[“Your last point on whether I see Buddhist tolerance at this blog, I admit I am very very disappointed there.”
However, I haven’t seen you speak against it. What I have seen is rather extension of your hand for the brotherhood of troublemakers.]
I will respond to your points in different posts, for my convenience.
If you go back to a couple of my earliest posts, I did make several general appeals for civility. They were largely ignored. That was a naive mistake on my part. I soon learned that people on both sides did pretty much the same thing, when they were provoked enough. It was a no win situation with people taking advantage of anonymity; they felt they had nothing to lose. You can influence that only if peoplefeel they something of value to win or lose; in ego-driven verbal wars behind anonymous names, there is nothing at risk. So you cannot change the behavior, it is largely determined by the intrinsic character of the individuals themselves.
On the other hand, when they calm down, everyone seems to make valuable contributions. All people are not cut from the same mould; I have to take them as they are, and appreciate the best in them when they deserve it, whether it is in intellect, humor, compassion, or love of the motherland.
My interest is in discussing issues of relevance to successfully waging this war and securing a safe future for Sri Lanka. I am not interested in refereeing extended pillow fights, it is such a monumental waste of time!
P.O., you are such a delight to read. Please keep the analysis rolling in here. I am new to these defence and political blogs and I love this.
Can someone plz tell me wotz da URL of Mahen's blog?
Political Observer said...
[The SLA does not need major roads to get the LTTE anymore, as there is perhaps no other military in the world better at jungle warfare than the SLA's special forces units. Indeed, the LTTE is mighty anxious to not engage the SLA in the jungle, and instead run to the safety of towns and behind civilians.]
Thank you for your interest in my posts, however I disagree about the importance of the roads. Even though the SLA's Special forces have improved vastly, easy access by good roads to the jungle areas, and dividing the jungle into smaller cells, will make that task much easier.
I am anticipating that large quantities of arms and ammunition have been hidden by the LTTE in the Vanni. The hope of the residual Eelamists, is that they can somehow find some refuge in these jungles, in addition urban areas of the North and East, away from people who would report them to the authorities.
We must take steps to make that hope unrealizable, and creating access roads to the interior of the Vanni is chief among them.
tnx Ninja and sorry for asking the same question twice. I had somehow missed your answer.
Anton, I know that Obama will only swear in mid January but Washington DC is ready for the transition. Infact the transition even began before Obama won the election. When it was apparent that Obama would win there were lot that started to change. Now we see that even president Bush is siding with Democrats against Republicans.
With the nomination of HC and retaining Robert Gates the foreign policy team is already in place and taken control behind the scenes. President Bush is a lame duck now.
I am not sure what "actions" Obama will take but I have not liked the early indications.
isuru josh
mehan blog
http://ellalanforce.blogspot.com/2009/01/ltte-withdraws-from-kilinochchi.html
Brave1,
Mate, I can do anything with guys like you. We can agree or agree to disagree or disagree all the way without exchanging foul words like mature persons.
I don't care how many years somebody fought with tamil keyboard worriers, if he doesn't know how to deal with a fellow patriots.
If he thinks he owns the block and insult mothers, fathers and sisters of other fellow patriots, he will be the Zakkiliya not any body else.
There can be 1000s of tamils I can embrace warmly but kick the arse of sinhala patriots who doen't know how to earn respect from others.
Rather I will call him a dog and kick the arse irrespective to his standing with patriotism.
tnx Lankaputhra :)
bdw AFP reports that Mullativu is also about to fall. If then in 3 days of 2009 we have had three wickets! Hatrick!!! At this rate it looks like SLDF will break Lasith Malinga's record as well.
http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5iW0BDtGyKI_GpS31tzT3Zt_lWspw
brave1,
good points, mate.
"Let us develop a strong deterrence against this....a fire wall...a set of ICBMs."
couldn't have said it better.
MR made a fantastic speach.
he is a true satetsman.
may god protect him for another decade for sri lanka.
amen.
siyatha.lk updated. There is a good article.
Now that all doubts about military victory by the Srilankan state against Tamil militants appear imminent, Srilankans, esp majority Sinhalese have a grand oppurtunity to ensure a permannent solution to the conflict by being magnanimous in victory and giving as much autonomy to minorities as is feasible within a united framework( albeit supervised, to prevent recurrences).
The decision has to be made and declared now, as the heady jingoistic days after the final ' victory' may make it impossible to implement such a solution.
The easy recourse is,ofcourse what many posters are already insinuating--viz crushing of all demands of autonomy, assasinating moderate Sinhalese, molesting Tamils, dispersing them and colonising their land. It may look good in short term but will show the seeds of rebellions in the future.
Fonseka and VP has played their parts, and I would say both are military geniuses at a regional level. But now the politicos must take over for a peaceful future.
Sun Tsu's disciple,
What are your arguments against "Crushing all demands for autonomy" ?
Folks,
As AGG usually say kill me if I am wrong. i will die happily if I am wrong.
I am reading my mind frankly now.
Supose, we managed to eradicate LTTP completely and no more seperatism aggresive or cool anymore.
Can we assure equal rights to every body irrespective of race, religion and ethnicity.
www.slnews.info:
Searchable DW posts & comments DB.
Hi guys,
Our server is getting large no. of requet from all the continents. I didn't expected this much of load. Thank you for you interest. I'll update the database soon.
LM,
if a family has to remain united, sometimes the head has to give some autonomy to individual members, otherwise they will rebel and break off.
Successful democracies like USA and India does it, why not SL??
STD,
Does US do it on a racial basis?
LM,
its the principle that matters, not name( ie race, religion, region). Some democracies with homogenous populations do it on a regional basis( eg USA).
Some democracies do it on a ' racial' basis ( eg India), Some do it on both ( eg Canada).
The Tamils can be given 'regional' autonomy if race brings back bad memories. Bottomline is--they need to feel in some control of their own affairs under whatever name.Otherwise SL will remain in company of Uganda and somalia ( as at present), rather than with Canada or India.
Velluprabakaran,
"it's an open secret that china virtually arm twisted india to stay away from mahinda so that china's investments & strategic objectives are safe (hambantota harbour etc)."
VP, this is interesting. Can you substantiate your assertion a bit more?
STD,
"The Tamils can be given 'regional' autonomy if race brings back bad memories. Bottomline is--they need to feel in some control of their own affairs under whatever name."
First I think provincial council system has been introduced to address this in our constitution.
Second:
If you say they (PCs) should be given more powers then it will be an unfair request. Because it will be an unofficial implementation of Eelam. Whatever the solution we present to Sri Lankans (Sinhalese, Tamils, Muslims etc) should not lead to an Eelam (or mini Eelam), which can be used as a basis for future separation.
Do you agree?
Machan STD,
"Otherwise SL will remain in company of Uganda and somalia ( as at present), rather than with Canada or India."
Sri Lanka is better than your beloved India mate! You are a cunning little rat.
We know who you are and what you are trying to do here.
We neither need your advices nor suggestions to rehabilitate the innocent civilians who are treated like stray dogs under VP's directorship!
Also, you try to compare a Terra Leader to an Army General.
First understand the difference between a Terrorist Group and a Government.
He he.. Do you think you can achieve Pealam by talking bullshit here?
Do you afraid of supporting LTTE like others? Is that why you talk bullshit here? Or you are so upset and can't think what to write?
Another Blast in Fort.
Dear STD again,
Can you remember around 1.5 years ago what have you told about the current military offensive?
You brought more than 100 arguments to defend Peelam and gave international examples to enlighten us about future failures of SLDF.
What has happened to those now? In case if you don't remember those, see the archives! lol!
Are you talking with your ASS now?
Mr. STD, you should have changed you name mate. Because you are committing suicide here! ! ! lol!
bomb exploded in colombo
SKY UK News Channel
any one got any idea is this a new blast ?
11.30 gmt 3/1/2009
Good morning patriots.
One mile to Colombo?
A minor one.
Yes, I have made a "minor" change to my tag-line.
At least, until the lorry gets there.
This article shows why Sri Lanka needs a very large 500,000 man SLDF and a 4,000,000 man National Guard including every adult capable of bearing arms.
From ExpressBuzz.com
[‘Expect LTTE to change tactics'
Pradeep Kumar and Krishnamurthy 03 Jan 2009 CHENNAI:
All major political parties remained silent on Friday, when Kilinochchi fell to the Sri Lankan Army, while some smaller outfits reacted with a sense of resignation.
With the defeat of the LTTE at Kilinochchi, pro-Eelam and anti-war outfits now say that other methods of struggle will be adopted.
Kilinochchi was the last stronghold of the LTTE and it is widely perceived that the fall of this town marks the defeat of the LTTE. In the recent past, some political outfits and intellectuals in Tamil Nadu had expressed support for a separate Tamil Eelam in Sri Lanka and urged the Indian Government to intervene in this matter and stop the war and prevent the killing of innocent Tamils in the island nation.
According to D Pandian, the Tamil Nadu state secretary of CPI, which has been urging the Indian Government for intervention, the war will not end with the fall of Kilinochchi. “The Sri Lankan Army may have overrun Kilinochchi but we have to wait for a reaction from the LTTE and the Sri Lankan Government. I don’t think the war will end with this. Other forms of struggle will be adopted and the battlegrounds will shift,” he said.
P Nedumaran, leader of the Tamil Nationalist Movement, the most prominent pro- Eelam and pro-LTTE voice in Tamil Nadu, said, “Kilinochchi was already a ghost town, no one lived there. So the Sri Lankan Army cannot claim a big victory.
War will now engulf Sri Lanka and move to other parts,” he noted.
Dravida Kazhagam, the ideologicaal front of Dravidian parties which has been actively espousing the Eelam cause refused to comment, with K Veeramani, the organisation’s chief saying, “The reports that are coming are based on the Sri Lankan Army’s version of events. We will not react until we get a confirmed report that Kilinochchi has fallen.” Thyagu of Tamilar movement who has been giving speeches in favour of a separate Eelam, says, “As always this has been India’s betrayal.
This is a war where winning and losing are common. It is just another event, a small setback. One may lose battlefields but that doesn’t mean the war is lost. If the LTTE is not able to win this way, they will change their tactics.
There are also other ways to fight.” He said despite the defeat, his organisation would continue to espouse the cause of the LTTE. “We will continue to support the Eelam and the LTTE and we will keep working to lift the ban on LTTE. When Manmohan Singh visits Chennai on January 8, we will hold a black flag protest,” he said.
Poet Inqualaab who has been supporting the Eelam cause and is part of a larger network of poets and writers who support the Sri Lankan Tamil cause agrees with Thyagu, saying, “LTTE spokesperson Natesan has said even if Kilinochi is lost, the struggle will continue. Freedom struggles do not die down that easily and one cannot think that the war is over.” Chennai-based Sri Lanka observer N Sathiyamoorthy of the Observer Research Foundation agrees broadly with the view of Eelam supporters that the war will take on other forms. “LTTE may resort to guerilla warfare now as Kilinochi has fallen, but one cannot rule out the capability of the Sri Lankan Army for search and destroy operations,” he felt.
But he cautions that if recent indications are anything to go by, the capability of LTTE may be severely limited. “Going by the Indian Army’s assessment and what is happening on the ground in Kilinochi, it appears that the LTTE’s stockpile of weapons is gone, which would severely limit their capability to carry out suicide strikes in urban areas. It was said that there was a large stockpile in Kilinochchi to protect Prabhakaran, about three years ago, but the weapons may have passed their expiry dates with no replenishments.” He also says that the fall of the LTTE is unlikely to have an impact on Tamil Nadu politics, pointing to the current campaigns in Thirumangalam by different parties, which are devoid of any mention of the issue.
“In Tamil Nadu itself the issue could have had an impact if the war had peaked around election time. But now it will not have any impact. Even in the Thirumangalam campaigns, no one is talking about the war.” Sri Lankan Tamils may not be in danger if the Sri Lankan Army wins. According to him, “there is no reason to believe that the Sri Lankan Army victory will lead to anti-Tamil violence as in 1983. The violence against Tamils over the last two to three years has been between various Tamil groups. There is no reason at this time to suspect Rajapakse’s intentions.
One has to wait and watch the package that Tamils will get.” Pandian says, ultimately it will only be a political solution that will work. According to Sathiyamoorthy, political solution may become easier after the LTTE is gone.
“Chandrika Kumaratunga also tried to get past the LTTE to find a solution but was not successful. Now if the LTTE is defeated, a political solution may be possible.” Janata Party president Subramanian Swamy agrees, “It is a good development since LTTE is part of the problem and not part of the solution. Finishing them will only be the first priority. It should be accompanied by devolution package for the Tamils, which the Sri Lankan Government has promised the international community.” VCK leader Thirumavalavan who last week declared recognition for Eelam as a separate nation, could not be reached for comment.]
EXPLOSION SOUND HEARD FROM COLOMBO AREA - ADA DERANA
Moda Banda, namo namo moda Lanka!
OOOOOOOOOOOOOH PETER PONNADURAI IS HERE...WITH HIS TAIL UNDER IT'S LEGS...
HE HE HE...HOOOOOO
Only a "minor explosion".
Now, back to main topic: chanting of namo namo moda Lanka.
2 people admitted into hospital and few cars damaged.
lakhanda
[The Tamils can be given 'regional' autonomy if race brings back bad memories. Bottomline is--they need to feel in some control of their own affairs under whatever name.Otherwise SL will remain in company of Uganda and somalia ( as at present), rather than with Canada or India.]
Why not Batti Tamils and Muslims feel the same way, and ask for their cute litte regional autonomy?
Why not Upcountry Sinhalas feel the same way?
Why not?
Hi Peterrrr...
How are you?
What happened to Kili?
Why are you singing the national anthem? Can't you sing Canadian one correctly? LMAO!!!
Peterrrrr,
Ah.. u are waiting for LTTE to do a counter attack and take back Kili?
But QUESTION:
When SLA is on the way to Mulathivu and gonna take out the rest of Cadres, how da f*ck u gonna make a counter? You gonna recruit people from Canada? or India?
Oh.. I got it! You are waiting for Indian Government to invade SL and give it to VP rite?
Ah.. ok ok.. no need to answer my question! LMAO!
The last LTTE CAPITAL (Kilinochchi) has become SIMPLE now.
They are about to Tactically Relocate Mulathiv to Indian Ocean!!!
How bad! can't we ask Maldives to give 'em a (sinking?) island?
We could donate some money if ya need!
NO RACE BASED SOLUTIONS FOR THE PROBLEM...!!! IT WILL WORSEN THE SITUATION...!!!
DEFENCE WIRE...PLEASE TURN YOUR BLOG INTO "POLITICAL WIRE" ...HE HE HE
THE PUNDITS ARE HERE...
Peter Annadurai akka Ponna durai is one of those elements who landed British safe heaven due to the "Petriotism by Extream Srilankans"
and living as a liability on tax payers.
Part of that mentality is home for holidays {Since Peter's holiday is on a dream destination called Peelam}
So accept his mentality at this difficult situation.
Peter , you could send a light aircarft from your investment bank money to pick up your top man
oii peter, get a life man.you are too cheap here
Patriots,
Now large numbers of "impartial" LTTE agents are descending on this blog to educate us with all manner of "reasonable" arguments as to why we should peacefully give them a mini-Eelam, now that they failed to win the maxi-Eelam by blowing our people to bits.
Only when hell boils over!
Some one in the blog has said
Looks like all the LTTE top has gone to India now and are under the patronage of Karunanidhi.
That's why the Old Dog is not making any noise now.
Guys please dont make such comments against our politicians.
Just now war with Tigers is comin to an end, kindly dont wake up sleeping tigers(India).
Diwakar
India
There are few Sinhala retards like RW et al who preaches LTTP would turn in to a covert monstrous terror campaign.
LTTP had always been a symbol of terror. IMHO there is very little they could do to us in the future to surprise us. There will be suicide bombers, bus bombs in the near future as well. This is not something new, and we should systematically eliminate all terror pawns from the island.
Kill all arm bearing terrorists to bring peace. No arms no terror.
Diwakar said...
"Guys please dont make such comments against our politicians."
Did you mean Tamilnadu jokers?
ANANDA USA SAID...
Patriots,
Now large numbers of "impartial" LTTE agents are descending on this blog to educate us with all manner of "reasonable" arguments as to why we should peacefully give them a mini-Eelam, now that they failed to win the maxi-Eelam by blowing our people to bits.
Only when hell boils over!
I 100% AGREE...!!!
THIS IS ALL PONNA RANIL TALK...!!! THIS IS SRI LANKA...IT BELONGS TO SRI LANKANS...!!! WAR OR PEACE WE WILL NEVER ALLOW ANY MOTHER FUCKER TO SEPARATE THIS COUNTRY OR DIVIDE IT BASED ON RACE...!!!
Sun Tzu
"Otherwise SL will remain in company of Uganda and somalia ( as at present), rather than with Canada or India."
I thought the regions under LTTE is like Somalia already.
Tamils who demand anything has no leverage right now.
SLG should get the upper hand in each and every region in Sri Lanka.
We don't want a mini Palastine - Isreal like situation with over 1 Million Tamil diaspora living abroad and foolish TN is looking at us.
Sinhalese are the endangered species in Sri Lanka and they must take control of their survival first.
Tamils had their chances to cut a deal and they blew it. Regions being captured by forces has to be re-populated with Sinhalese and Muslims so that they will have an ethnic balance so that there will NEVER be another war again.
I wonder what the Tamil diaspora's face looks like at the moment. I'm picturing a really fugly looking face, wet with hot tears and with a wailing sound emanating from a buck teeth mouth.
"Tamils had their chances to cut a deal and they blew it. Regions being captured by forces has to be re-populated with Sinhalese and Muslims so that they will have an ethnic balance so that there will NEVER be another war again."
Completely agree. The first step is to make Trincomalee a Sinhalese majority district with Sinhalese settlements right up till the coastline and include part of Mullaitivu district. Muslims must be resettled in Jaffna. The only thing that will break the backbone of Tamil separatism is settlement of Sinhalese in the North and the East.
Jaffna district should be around 30% Tamil, 40% Sinhalese and 30% Muslim.
London Temple attacked again by LTTE and dia ass pora loosers. This time they did a BIG mistake. It's fixed with security cameras.
Gotcha !
http://www.lankaenews.com/Sinhala/news.php?id=7599
we should make sinhala compulsory for all students.
efforts must be made to improve the english & it knowledge of all students. this is the way forward.
if we leave the future of tamils to a pig who overeats while watching clint eastwood movies & wanks while murdering all & sundry around him it'll be curtains for SL.
if we leave the future of sinhala to ranil who finds above character respectable we're fukced.
Sn Tzu
I do agree with you that a certain amount of autonomy should be given, that should be the base of a political package/devolution - can come with frills or without and named in any form but autonomy is a must.
Nonetheless I don't agree on two counts.your point "both are military geniuses ..." because one was totally outfoxed by the other, so comparatively VP is a babe who couldn't move a leg with SF. VP was out thought, out witted and totaly outfoxed
second is when you say "Now that all doubts" doubts were only with those who arepro ltte. sure signs were ther months before for all others had no doubts. diaspora tamils and other die hard ltte supporters still believe ltte will reverse
STD,
its the principle that matters, not name( ie race, religion, region). Some democracies with homogenous populations do it on a regional basis( eg USA).
Some democracies do it on a ' racial' basis ( eg India), Some do it on both ( eg Canada).
On what part of IOndia have they given autonomy based on "race"?
If so that means that only one race is living within this region. that ppl of different races cannot buy lands and settle down as freely as native races. The state is not undre Indian legislative authority but under different set of laws [like Sharia for muslim majority states]. This is not to be found.
What you see is anothre region based devolution in India too. Regions are based on ancient kingdoms and accidentally those ancient kingdoms were dominated by one or two races to a certain extent.
However entire India is equal opportunity for al races. There is no way a Marati is barred from being CM of TN or vice versa.
In SL too there can be regional administrative units with maximum administrative powers possible w/o making way for separation. But there shouldn't be any race based regions, policies or any other. The right which we have reserved for tamils and muslims in south to buy a house and do any job they wish should be similarly retained in north and east too. SL govt should not be limited in their development programs based on racial claims. Nobody should try to avoid any settlements anywhere as it is under the basic right of living anywhere you like.
Anyone who further preaches stuff that may enrage ppl for separation should be jailed just like in India. The laws should be brought to abolish racially biased public statements. If we did this to Chelvanayagam, Sundaralingam, Cyrill Mathew et al, we're not here in this blog today.
[Jaffna district should be around 30% Tamil, 40% Sinhalese and 30% Muslim.
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You put the whole effective solution in a nutshell.
If all ethnic groups' melting pot in the south, why not other areas of the country go on the same lin as well?
This should be given a very serious consideration by ALL POLITICIANS, reagardless of their party, in the inetrest of the country and their constituents.
We should also QUICKLY create vast free trade zones and foreign investment zones in the NORTH AND THE EAST.
Add a few three lanes highways and people and businesses will start quickly moving....
Goodbye Elaam.
The people want a better life... only the separatist politicians and terrorists want want divisions of the country.
... and both proud Sri Lankans and their leaders are NOT NEW to the age-tested formula... that... SCREAMS...
'Extra-ordinary problems like Tamil terrorism... need... extra-ordinary solutions.'
If anyone engages in terrorism... and harm our defence folks... WE MUST... shift to 'overdrive'... as our response.. in kind.
Patriots,
Read this article to appreciate that not only Tamil Nadu, but the Govt. of India also still has an interest in keeping the LTTE alive. They still want to be able to manipulate Sri Lanka like a puppet on a string to serve the selfish national interests of India at our expense.
It is up to the Sri Lankans to understand this reality, escape their grasp, and take full command of the destiny of our country.
To do that, we must achieve both military strength and economic strength that is largely independent of India. To achieve this, we must expand every arm of the SLDF to a 500,000 man force, back it up with a 4,000,000 man National Guard including every able bodied adult citizen capable of bearing arms, develop a largely self-supporting export-oriented miltary industry and R&D establishment to support our own needs through external sales, and a vibrant diversified economy, self-sufficient in energy, with many global allies and trading partners.
Sri Lanka Guardian Article:
[IPKF vets fear influence loss
(January 03, New Delhi, Sri Lanka Guardian) The fall of Kilinochchi to Sri Lankan government troops is being described by Lanka watchers here as an eclipse of the LTTE’s conventional fighting capabilities, leading to a corresponding diminution in New Delhi’s influence over Colombo for ensuring that the political cause of the Tamils was met.
"We’ve lost the game (to the government of Sri Lanka)," Maj. Gen. Ashok Mehta (Retd), who served with the Indian Peacekeeping Force (IPKF) in Sri Lanka, told this newspaper. "It is anybody’s guess how much of political devolution Sri Lankan Tamils will derive after the marginalisation of the LTTE," he said.
Maj. Gen. Mehta thought the marginalisation of the LTTE would make New Delhi less important strategically for Colombo. "Whatever influence India had would diminish as a result of Sri Lanka being able to handle the situation entirely on its own despite what India may claim about this," he said.
Speaking to this newspaper from Chennai, Col. R Hariharan (Retd), who was earlier the head of intelligence in the IPKF in Sri Lanka in the late 1980s, said the LTTE would have no option now but to retreat to the jungles.
"The last bid of the LTTE to have a conventional army and fight a conventional war is over. The fall of Kilinochchi represents a huge military defeat for the LTTE and will also diminish their political clout. Elephant Pass will be captured soon by the Sri Lankan Army and the Jaffna-Kandy road can be re-opened," Col. Hariharan said.
Maj. Gen. Mehta also said it was a "big irony" that India, which sent troops in 1987 to get Tamils their due, had now abrogated that role entirely into the hands of Colombo. "India has yielded too much more than she should have," he said. "The government of India has been amiss. It was a strategic error not to keep back channels with the LTTE. Even more surprising is that the Tamil Nadu government, which was the most ardent supporter of the LTTE, has completely failed in nudging the government of India into taking some action about keeping the LTTE relevant," he added.
Another former Indian official said the re-occupation of Kilinochchi by the Sri Lankan Army will add to the pride, confidence and morale of the Sri Lankan Army but it would not necessarily undermine the motivation and morale of the LTTE.
Experts feel the LTTE’s leadership now has grown much older compared to the previous years and they doubt whether the rebels will be able to retain their military strength that made them so feared earlier.
Incidentally, India has so far refused to end its military cooperation with Sri Lanka and provides "assistance and training" to the Sri Lankan armed forces. India had earlier made it clear that it would not supply "lethal" arms to Sri Lanka as there was a conflict raging in that country. There have been reports earlier that India has supplied equipment such as radar to Sri Lanka but these reports have never been confirmed by India. Sri Lanka also accounts for nearly half of the foreign naval personnel being trained in India by the Indian Navy, figures submitted earlier by the Union government before Parliament for 2004-05, 2005-06 and 2006-07 had revealed. Sri Lanka has also purchased arms from Pakistan and Israel for its offensive against the LTTE. - Sri Lanka Guardian]
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