Civilians have started arriving in their thousands by today. 522 civilians came yesterday and 2000 civilians had arrived by this evening. 25-30 LTTE cadres, who abandoned the movement, were also among them. This was the largest number of civilians to have returned to date and indicates the LTTE is really crumbling.
The 30-man Tiger team, which breached the 59 defenceline few days ago was completely annihilated along with several other Tiger teams in the general area Mulaitivu by a combined Special Forces, Commando and SLAF Mi-24 mission. The Tiger team from Ratha regiment, commanded from afar by Theepan had got more than they had bargained for. Although successful initially in firing a few RPGs at an Army Bus, Tractor with trailer and 2 tanks, the Tigers were systematically surrounded and picked off by the superior SF and CR teams.
Meanwhile Brigadier Prasanna Silva's 55 Division has finally entered Chalai. The declaration of the capture will be made within 24hrs as Sea Tigers putting up stiff resistance to guard its last entry-point into the sea were finding it extremely difficult to fight on due to the unconventional tactics employed by the veteran Special Forces officer and his junior commanders.
Thursday, February 5, 2009
Chalai about to fall as civilians start returning
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....I want the government to recognize their efforts and reward them. This is how you build a strong culture of helping people.
I disagree with you. This "reward" system will have very bad repurcussion of creating vultures who do it for the rewards.
The people who really care do it because they feel good doing something for the benefit of the others and dont need ANY FORM of reward from the governement. Their best reward is seeing the smile on the face of the beneficiary.
mayil,
vesapillai has 'castled' in a hurry to avoid checkmate!!!!!
we should have taken that rook (or crook!) ahead in time. the two LTTE bishops did their moves but nothing happened.
MayilRavana said...
As I pointed out earlier, the number of civilians in the area appears to be hugely exaggerated.
Mayil, Welcome back, brother!
BTW, I just posted the same thing as you said above. I estimate no more than 50,000 people in uncleared areas, total.
Really Cold
HM
The people who really care do it because they feel good doing something for the benefit of the others and dont need ANY FORM of reward from the governement. Their best reward is seeing the smile on the face of the beneficiary.
You will have to agree to HM
One must do one’s best for others without seeking any reward or glory and not even bublicity.
MayilRavana said...
As I pointed out earlier, the number of civilians in the area appears to be hugely exaggerated.
Mayil, Welcome back, brother!
BTW, I just posted the same thing as you said above. I estimate no more than 350,000 people in uncleared areas, total.
OBAMA's Independence day message;
"Dear Mr. President:
As the people of Sri Lanka and Sri Lankan origin around the world celebrate National Day on February 4, I send my warmest greetings and wishes to you on behalf of the people of the United States.
The United States values its enduring friendship with the people of Sri Lanka. I hope that the coming year will see advancement of our shared beliefs in democracy, liberty, pluralism, and respect for human rights. Our governments together can work to foster peace, prosperity, and stability throughout Sri Lanka.
As the people of Sri Lanka celebrate National Day, they should know that they have a friend and partner in the United States.
Sincerely,
Barack Obama"
Moshe Dyan said...
dk,
the only difference is propulsion.
but range is not different even in the case of rockets used as artillery.
I think propulsion makes all the difference which should reflect on range. V_y involves some g*delta_t which shouldn't apply for the case of rockets.
But lets' pass on. There's no use of nitpicking when the basic idea is right. :)
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Dark Knight,
"with all due respect, could we please move on?"
With all due respect, speak for yourself.
"Probably you should treat "Real Asithri" as the Asithri that uses decent and eloquent language in places such as AsianTribune."
Yep, that's why he got kicked off that site. If you can show me one place where he used "decent and eloquent language" (other than Rana's interesting citation of Mr. Weerasekera's Abhidhamma studies), you just might convince me.
"I estimate no more than 350,000 people in uncleared areas, total."
no.. its around 100000, even the GA's were reported having around 200,000 IDp's it must be very lover than that.
Dr Palitha Kohona in an interview said that there are around 100,000 left.
remember Vakarai. GA's said that there were around 44000 but only 14000 were counted afterward
Huge numbers said to be living in Vanni is an exaggeration created by the INGOs
Justify their fundings and claims from their own organizations and foreign governments. Just as the foreign politicians hijacked the terrorist and separatist cause to be in power the INGOs made used of these high numbers for their claims. When ever I drifted into their areas it was obvious to see how sparsely populated these areas were and how rundown their infrastructure was.
Looking at that bunker recently captured clearly shows that their leaders themselves have been cheated of comfort they would have deserved for the vast billions accumulated by their Diaspora rouges.
I wouldn’t put more than 25 thousand the most living in those unlearned areas now. This Eelam business is the biggest farce like the Golden key and the Mardock ponzy scheme collecting money for a dream that will never be achieved, just as the whorehouse that was promised to me by the Sudbury fund collector who claimed that Killinorchi’s roads are paved with sidewalk cafés, neon lights etc.
@ Sujeewa
Your posts have been exceptional and absolutely hilarious. I never saw anyone mixing patriotism, sarcasm and sense of humor with absolutely accurate facts
100% agree
AGG is one of the most famous blogger here. We always loved read his comments
(2nd post)
Guys,
Who is this?
http://www.tamilnet.com/img/publish/2005/03/pirapaharanMou_01.gif
Real pig or the fake pig.
If IT is the fake pig, 2002 MoU isn't a valid agreement between LTTE and Gov.
Poor RW.
The capture of Tamil Tiger strongholds by the Sri Lankan army 'may constitute a turning point in the crisis' and could pave the way for peace and stability on the island nation, the EU Parliament said Thursday.
no LTTE supporter = no enjoyment in this blog
You rarely meet good people online. I have the respect for Rana, Wijapala, Rover and few others for that.
I can easily overlook what happened with Rana. He got frustrated with hypocrisies of Asithri and Ananda. Then he trusted AGG. Usually good hearted people trust others too much. They think others are as sincere as them.
World is full of naive back stabbers. I have been back stabbed few times by weak minded insecure nerds.
Imagine people are fighting with paint balls and someone come to play with a machine gun. That was exactly AGG did. Even after what happened here, people will hang around with Rana, not with AGG.
Those who have experienced true love, tend to appreciate opposite sex.
Those who haven't experienced real friendship tend to be back stabbers.
They use back stabbing mostly to impress others and become good friends. The truth is, the back stabbers get credit for doing dirty work, those who credit him will never treat him like a true friend.
yo,
can u guys plz stop discussing soap opera family matters here...
@ReallyCold
OMG, this is becoming a hart talk column... take it easy everyone, find ltte buggers to slam...
[[no LTTE supporter = no enjoyment in this blog]]
Very true.
At last, we lost Mongala's gal kolla, Upul.
Most of the jokers, so-called defence experts are old pensioned old hawks. Practically null. In words all in the battlefield guiding SLA commanders, giving advices. But when ask to sponsor ranaviru child or ranaviru home projects their patriotism runaway from back door.
Old hawks captured defence wire blogspot and guided SLDF to victory against world most ruthless barbaric terrorist organisation.
Tamil DieAss Poora show their patriotism by pouring money to LTTP. Singala diaspora show patriotism by writing comments on DW blogspot.
DW, can you please put some inside story fresh....
RC;
You completely misread me. Your view of ethic based idealistic charity-like professionalism contradicts my purely business sensed view. In fact your comment is a very good example of business unfriendly perspective [to call me someone trying to grab expat money :)].
And it is not the scare of expats grabbing local jobs [I was more sarcastic than real in that sentence]. I personally have no such fear, and I'm sure many professionals in SL are better protected. But with limited job supply an increased demand would surely cause havoc.
I still see you visualizing the govt sector role and "services" than business. Sorry I'm not a supporter of that system. It can be initiated an run successfully only for one generation. Then after chaos. In fact those who started heavily state oriented economy in 50s 60s and 70s are main culprits of downfall today. This sector is what caused all the corruption of which you complain now. Such systems are not sustainable.
We can agree to disagree. But honestly I am not guilty of your claims. I am trying to shed some light of pragmatic truth, a genuine business oriented view, leaving the ideals and theory an dreams away.
Nisal,
One who sign the Mou with Ranil must be the fake pig. But Pirbha sign from jungle before it come to fake pig and fake pig publicly portray to the pic.
I am sure Karuna knows something about it. But if Pirbha arrest CIB have bastards real finger prints thanks to Nilabdeen.
ReallyCold... said...
World is full of naive back stabbers. I have been back stabbed few times by weak minded insecure nerds.
Those who haven't experienced real friendship tend to be back stabbers.
Really Cold, one could equally say that coming under different name to attack someone is back-stabbing by definition. They do so because in 'real' face, they have a different interface with the same person. In short, both cases show the double-face behavior.
And when you say "people" you discount the people who are disgusted by rana, and pick those who are disgusted with AG/G.
My problem with you is that your definitions of ehics are cabal-ish. You have a cabal with "good" people, and if they do something UGLY, that's not "real them". Take Wijepala for example. His answer to me when I asked "could we move on" was "speak for yourself". I didn't even say that "wijayapala must move on". This is the same holier-than-thou saint on his moral high-horse. As soon as he saw I was attacking his clique, he didn't hesitate to go into "attack" mode. And he conveniently ignored my argument on the ethics on Rana.
Wijayapala, i repeat AGAIN: If you focus on why Asithri was kicked out of some site, you are "missing the real Asithri".
As for Rana, you already saw how he can use filth in his real self too.
no more appeals to surrender!! well, well, thank you very much
another dream comes true!!!
@(Ex.SunGod)Mofckr V.Prabhakaran HIV
hey hey hey don't be so harsh. you are like a ransom collector :)
All sri lankan's are doing their best to support (or otherwise, depending on their faith and expectations) elimination of LTTE, whether it is witting on a blog or contributing some money etc.
No one has a right to ask for money, and corner those who don't contribute.
this is democracy, after all my friend :)
"My recommendation to LTTE supporters, however, is to focus strictly on Norway, which is a much easier nut to crack than Australia and you already have a wonderful base there"
Ananda- America....brother weldone...
one of my buddy in Canada told me that, canadian Kalu Demala koti, become pussy black flag kotta kotie...
may be they can ask EElaamma in Canada...but nut is too frigin truff to loose, they'll need more WD40 or liquid-wrinch.
All the best to SLDF and my sinhala brothers in DW.
Thanks DW.
Time has come every true Sri Lankan Patriot to do something for motherland practically. People in outside Sri Lanka in a good position to do that.
SRI LANKA NEED YOUUUUU
YES YOU
Priyashantha;
The Ponna Peramuna of Mongal, Ranil, Rana, Wijayapala, Swarnajith, Sujeewa and Really Cold.
Sujeewa, you don't belong here because you are not a fake. Get out of the Ponna Peramun buddy if you are in it accidently. I'm sure you are not in it.
Leave that with them. I do not belonged to any gang. Sorry. A day before Rana aka Chathuranga classified me "in between" good and evil [Thanks for Rana not leaving me in that "in between" which is nothing bad at all, as AmmaGG says :)]. So they change my name from oen group to the other. They can take my name, but I do not belonged to above groups. I only stand for what I write.
I see many ppl wasting all their left over gray matter to define Patriotism or Righteousness or any other such ideal. I am not in that debate.
I only respond to topics of my interest and I always take on ideas, not the handlers not the ppl behind handlers. I try to write for all, nit only to the original writer, since this is a public forum.
In fact the public forum is the reason why I'm here since void of us leave Peter et al to educate public. It happened so during Pisstalk times and my neighbors debated with me why we should give eelam. Not again.
So classification and grouping has nothing to do with me.
@(Ex.SunGod)Mofckr V.Prabhakaran HIV
That' more like it, well done.. your voice will be heard in this tone better....
Enjoy some Vesa Pissa photos
Original Vesapissa
Original Vesapissa
Original Vesapissa
Original Vesapissa
Original Vesapissa
Original Vesapissa
Original Vesapissa Recent photo after injury to face
Original Vesapissa
Traitors of Nation
VesaPissa has been imposed on to photo - A fake photo
DW will become dry without LTTE supporters, TamilNadu fellows, and tamil diaspora maniacs. I am beginning to feel the gloom....
@ Sujeewa Kokawala
Tell me what is your background? Are you running a business?
I am not too crazy about money. In my view, business is all about expression your passions and enjoying being successful. You don't see human beings through a compassionate view. You are looking at others pocket all the time.
We need to open up the flood gates and let the demand or market take care of job opportunities. No job should be a secure job. It is that insecurity that makes productive workers. When I visit my Alma Mata, I get the feeling that the teaching staff has found a welfare shelter. They fear expats coming and grabbing their jobs since those who work in the west always at the cutting edge.
When I used the 'service', it is actually used as a vehicle, not as one sided charity. For example, what is customer service? It is absolute professionalism.
[Then after chaos. In fact those who started heavily state oriented economy in 50s 60s and 70s are main culprits of downfall today.]
Perhaps there is some truth in this.
Again, one man's pragmatism can be another's nightmare.
Sujeewa Kokawala said...
I see many ppl wasting all their left over gray matter to define Patriotism or Righteousness or any other such ideal. I am not in that debate.
I'm in that debate to the point of questioning the duplicity of The Moral Police. (This isn't a reply to you per se as you didn't address me.)
Dark Night
I think some of us know who real Asithri is. That is why we found his behavior here was really troubling.
OK folks, need to get some work done. Catch you later when I wanted to get some fresh (may not be that fresh in the first place) air.
[NOLTTE=Peace said...
Enjoy some Vesa Pissa photos]
More of them here;
http://www.sangam.org/articles/2004/
ReallyCold,
No job should be a secure job. It is that insecurity that makes productive workers
Now I am certain that you don't have a clue what you are talking about.
Since you are saying this no reasons are necessary,
I am not too crazy about money. In my view, business is all about expression your passions and enjoying being successful. You don't see human beings through a compassionate view. You are looking at others pocket all the time.
ReallyCold... said...
Dark Night
I think some of us know who real Asithri is. That is why we found his behavior here was really troubling.
I think some of us know who real Rana is. That is why we found his behavior here was really troubling.
hmmmm has soosai been taken? I heard that the body of a big cat is enroute to CMB...not official though...
This is another cheap photoshopped job of Vesa Pissa
VesaPissa has been imposed on to photo - A fake photo
His left ear area gives away the plot
Can somebody list pro-ltte blogs please?
DW is becoming scares of entertainment.
VesaPissa one of the suspicious photos - But it is too small to comment
Kavee,
Thanks for Sangam collection!
RC;
I don't agree for most but leave you with your opinion on it.
But again, it is not a personal matter for me, I have no issues in expats coming and joining local job market. Just a general comment that we should import business entrepreneurs not professionals.
Let's leave the topic open.
The ponsy fights going on here are really irritating.
Can't you girls go elsewhere and play with your butt plugs or whatever, please?
There's a story behind what made Velu make the fatal mistake of closing the Mavil-aru gates and precipitate a war in 2006. It looks like someone far away from the region had a well laid out plan to lead the LTTE by the nose into the noose.
Perhaps someday the rel facts will surface. For now, let's enjoy the fire-works.
Ok here we go.
youtube has given the details of "rubavakini" bugger.
From: "lazylions1" kajitharan2003@gmail.com
To: copyright@youtube.com
Date: Feb, 2/3/2009 13:23
Subject: New YouTube Copyright Complaint Submission
Ticket Id: 395813122
Queue: FR - Copyright Complaints
Show original
YouTube | Broadcast Yourself™
Hi there, here is a new copyright complaint submission:
Copyright Infringement Notification Confirmation
Copyright Owner Name (Company Name if applicable):
rubavakiny televison limited(govt)
Your Full Legal Name (Aliases, usernames or initials not accepted):
perara
Your Title or Job Position (What is your authority to make this complaint?):
ambassdor
User Address:
64
User City:
bd edoard vaillant
User State:
aubervilliers
Post Code/Zip:
93300
User Country:
FR
Username:
lazylions1
User Email Address:
kajitharan2003@gmail.com
User Phone:
003361685160
User Fax:
hahaaa hope that its a working t/p number!! LOLz
gotta take a call to the bugger
Duzz,
Mate do what ur sources have to say tally with what SF at LNP says?
About VP escaping and all?
User Email Address:
kajitharan2003@gmail.com
User Phone:
003361685160
I gotta make some calls and write some emails...lolz!
Calling all Nazis....please do you duty now...LOLz! LOLz! LOLz!
While the army fights valiantly (despite the occasional shelling of civilans and hospitals), genius Gota has managed to anger CNN, BBC, and Al Jazeera, along with a few Western countries who are donors to Sri Lanka, shooting his mouth off as usual.
This comes at a time when Sri Lanka desperately needs the support of these news agencies to bring the war to a conclusion instead of succumbing to ceasefire calls from all and sundry.
Only in banana republic Sri Lanka can an ex-manager of a 711 store become the Defence Secretary!
ISN'T THIS CALLED EVOLUTION???
one slut by the name Harini Sivalingam has written some crap to the toronto sun.
"She is the wife of the prominent LTTE activist and founder member of the pro-LTTE Canada Tamil Congress, Garry Sangary. He is the son of Mr Ananda Sangary".
i'm not surprised at all!!
this is the same evolution that made SPT chelva (that cripple who was killed by SLAF and who promised bloodbath after bloodbath) from SJV chelva (that RACIST who vovwed to genocide sinhalas)!!!!!!
SJV chelva -----> SPT chelva
A sangaray --> G sangary -->H sangaray
Lankanews,
By looking at the details it is obvious that this is an anti-government LTTE supporter who has asked to remove the vides. Bugger is so pathertic , so that could not even spell the name of the TV channell right.
I never thought YouTube was this unprofessional to remove a video without any investigation.
Some say Google is not able to provide an enterprise class service. Thats true it seems.
Well more good news since sri lankan economy has collapsed.
1 US Dollar = 114.116 Sri Lanka Rupee
The rupee is hitting life lows everyday. The black market value is getting more and more. So after killing lasantha, silencing Iqbal its fairy tale time.
Lanka Weeps,
Its painful huh ? Whats wrong with a 711 manager becoming DefSec if he can crew you and your sorry terrorist clan to the max ?
"64 Boulevard Edouard Vaillant
93300 Aubervilliers, France"
one heck of an "ambassdor" living here !
:) mang hithanne youtube ta mole..!
http://www.youtube.com/user/lazylions1
Moota wena channel ekak thiyanawa youtube eke. Kata hari puluwanda honda creative Copyright Complaint ekak danna mmoge channel ekata. Anek athata, apita barida moo USA ban karapu terrorists lata udawu karanawa kiyanna?
HUMANITARIAN RACIST---->INNOCENT RACIST----> VIOLENT RACIST-----> TERRORIST
@Lanka Weeps
[This comes at a time when Sri Lanka desperately needs the support of these news agencies to bring the war to a conclusion instead of succumbing to ceasefire calls from all and sundry.]
hehe.. i was waiting for some entertainment..
Pal, this so called western media was helping us all throughout, right. They didn't give a damn to LTTE, and always in support for LK Government.
Holly crap you Weeps, we don't need their sympathy anymore, not something we had ever.
GR was behind the mastermind of ending this war side by side with SF and others, and everybody has any senses would appreciate that.
You were like Kumbha-Karana, suddenly wake from sleep and eat the shit while thinking about a banana republic and its 7/11 store manager.
Shame on you pal. Get some more sleep, that would be better for you and others.
Navindran,
If you bend over twice as much as you used to, Singaporeans might even pay LKR 120/- for your US dollars. Try this out and let us know the success..
My guys is on the dark on the VP issue just like the majority of SLA
something is being planned by the top brass.. pottu defection is still a rumor, and i think it'll stay that way.
navi,
"Well more good news since sri lankan economy has collapsed.
1 US Dollar = 114.116 Sri Lanka Rupee"
how about the tamil elam economy????
dismantled!
I am very sorry to see disputing Sri Lankans; and it was appalling to see how a trust was betrayed online, for the whole world to see. This was the reason that I try not to give up my identity, and encourage others not to do so as well (I know some people find this to be rude, but on the long run, it is better). When I see extremist group oversteps their line, I need to criticize that, and to do this, being well known is going to be a hindrance (at least in Sri Lanka as of now).
But Sri Lankans have an amazing capability adapt/survive and thrive. So I hope folks would get back to doing what Sri Lankans do best.
Can someone give me the link to SF at LNP please.
Check this:
http://www.youtube.com/copyright_complaint_form
I understand that abuse of this tool will result in termination of my YouTube account.
If we can show this bugger has abused, his channel "http://www.youtube.com/user/lazylions1" will be terminated.
Only SLRC can do that. Vajira, any info on this?
puran,
http://www.lankanewspapers.com/news/members/space/index.jsp?id=specialforce
there u go
Puran:
http://www.lankanewspapers.com/specialforce
puran
here you go
http://www.lankanewspapers.com/news/2009/2/38803_3_space.html?CH11233891315843EN1
Thanks guys.
Sujeewa Kokawala
I was critical of the path taken, not your mission which I agree very much.
I am two people away from a US company setting up a training center in Sri Lanka. They had been begging us to open one. Since the official they approached was a family appointment by our admin, the official did not have the motive or brain power to execute it and close the deal.
Why most of the expats aren't behind the government band wagon against LTTE? People are sick and tired of same old same old politics.
Sri Lanka can do a ton with sustainable farming. There is a class in one of the US school where the elementary teacher is teaching 2nd graders on how to eat organic food. Here is one area Sri Lanka can take a lead on. I will be happy to provide my life experience from the consumer point of view. One such Sri Lankan farmer I know complained that he can't be profitable with the import tax. He wanted to build a green house however did not want to pay the higher import tax.
We can easily build an enterprising culture if the government find a way to bring basic decency of business practices to the society.
@ nisal,
yes the official way of disabling that bugger is filing a DCMA counter notice via SLRC
@GutiKewa - ගුටි දෙනවා said...
[I said: No job should be a secure job. It is that insecurity that makes productive workers]
[ Now I am certain that you don't have a clue what you are talking about.]
OK, explain. Present facts. I am open to your view. What I just spoke was Business Wisdom.
Guys,
Keheliya got 24 hours to catch VP. remember he boasted that VP wil be caught before 7th Feb.
@Rover
[But Sri Lankans have an amazing capability adapt/survive and thrive. So I hope folks would get back to doing what Sri Lankans do best.]
Your + attitude tells me that you are a good expat :)
Navindran,
I got some news for you ..... what happened to the Eelam Rupee? Did it get blown up by a MBRL or a Kfir? hahaha :-)
In case you pee-brain didn't know, the SL Rupee has appreciated in the against the Indian Rupee, the Singapore Dollar, and even the Euro during the past 6 months. So, go find another argument, boy!
And by looking at what is left of LTTE controlled areas, even ABS CDOs did better than the LTTE. Then again you wouldn't know what it is.
I think Only Prabakaran knows where he is.
No one will know until the remaining areas are been taken.
Anyway, Our guy have a big doubt whether Prabakaran left leaving the body double to keep the momentum going with the low rankers of the LTTE, and it’s sympathisers, especially Mahaweer families.
rocky,
There is something to do with Feb 7th.
There is a bih Nakatha lu on Feb 7th, which is favourable with regard to a big military gain.
This is crap for me. But a person told me this.
WELL DONE....BRIG.PRASANA SILVA IS ONE BATTLE HARDNED VETERAN AND WILL SURELY LEAD FROM THE FRONT.
WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO HAVE A CELEBRATION BEFORE VALENTINES DAY.
Puran,
well.. im not so sure abt that looking at the SL horoscope. but looking at VP's horoscope the odds are on VP to escape. i think lastmile has also confirmed this. lets see... hope im wrong ;-)
Guys,
I heard that low ranked, armed LTTE carders are making the way for their families to flee.
A big group arrived today lu.
Request from Defence.lk
I would like to see a video footage of MBRL attack which was taken by a UAV. Please can you upload at least one video?
dear LTTE,
"PLEASE LET MY PEOPLE GO!"
cheers
Hitlar didnt have an alliance at his last moment, so suicide was the only option.
But for this VP guy, having Diaspora crap alliance whom want the maniac to survive will fuel him enough motivation to escape. If he has any dignity or shame (which we know for sure that he don't) he should remain with the last bit of dying carders and suck his cyanide the way he taught others.
has anyone conducted a poll on who the best embedded battlefield journo is? i think Amal Kumara comes up tops for his skill with language and coverage. i once saw him tummy deep in a lake with SF.
Even if you catch kill or find the dead body of Fatpig, how on earth can you confirm it is the right one. This bastard is having many impersonators.
[i once saw him tummy deep in a lake with SF.]
Swarnawahini war reporter hit with a bullet on his palm... he too performs good.
Panhinda,
I am with you. Amal Samantha is the best for me too. He reports from the front line most of the time, that is the best part of him.
Anyway, Saman Kumara is doing a great job too, since Toppigala.
[Even if you catch kill or find the dead body of Fatpig, how on earth can you confirm it is the right one. This bastard is having many impersonators.]
what if there is no real VP all together? what if all are impersonators? humm just thinking of it makes me dizzy...
yes, i think the ITN cameraman got shot somewhere in weli-oya too. they must get some recognition for their excellent work.
{Blogger Puran Appu said...
Guys,
I heard that low ranked, armed LTTE carders are making the way for their families to flee.
A big group arrived today lu.}
It should happen sooner, rather than later. Now we are about to witness the end of an era. As someone suggested earlier we are in a way lucky to be born at this point in time as this is a turning point in history. Earlier when we talk about nations hero they we are thinking of people like Puran, Madduma Banda and so on -who seems to be kind of mythical figures. But today we have hundreds of living heroes. People like Shavindra , Jagath, Nandana are even the heroes of kids now, instead of Batman and superman.
anyone knows why people say chalai is the last bastion for sea tigers? they still have a coastal stretch upto Mula right?
Harendra Jayalal of Swarnawahini is a young talented guy. He is an asset for the country. I always like to watch the news when he is there.
rocky,
It is suppose to be the last LTTE Sea Tiger base.
Even though they have a stretch up to Mula, i doubt whether thay can hold it.
LTTE were holding Chalai for some time becoz there were plenty of defences built in Chalai.
rocky,
although they have the coast line, the bases are normally protected by a bay area. chalai is a bay and so is mullativu. now both have been captured.
[anyone knows why people say chalai is the last bastion for sea tigers? they still have a coastal stretch upto Mula right?]
Hotel Mount Lavinia is the only 5 star hotel by the beach, around dehiwalla/mountlavinia. Beach is there but no other 5 star hotels by the beach.
same logic applies. They have a beach, but no established premises as Chalai...
Karu,
100% agreed machan.
but i dont like it when u put madduma bandara and puran appu together. madduma bandara did not do anything to protect the country or anything like that. he is considered a hero because he was not afraid of dying a feeling that can arise when u know that there is no escape at that moment and sudda is going to anyway kill him be it after his brother or before that.
this is my personal opinion though!!
Officialy, 1600 people arrived, govt. control areas in the morning.
http://www.facebook.com/people/Kaji-Tharan/688062447
I'm sure, this is the youtube bugger.
thanks guys. makes sense
ReallyCold,
"Your + attitude tells me that you are a good expat :)"
Heh! Heh! Not a complete expat, but I was overseas for quite a while doing my higher studies. Can't imagine leaving Swarna Bhoomi!
@ Rocky
I was not comparing the two. But they were the ones we were told by our parents and teachers as heros, whom at least I felt as distant figures. One reason may be we did not have a real freedom struggle and in my opinion that has made some of our people less patriotic. Now many feels this is the real freedom struggle has awaken the patriotism again as never b4
today BBC, CNN little toned down. Regarding cluster bomb issue we missed a grate chance.
Why GOSL did not accuse LTTE of firing cluster bombs????? if so, for sure, media will pick up the news.
If SLA not fired cluster bombs then it should be LTTE. then why didnt we use the chance of exposing LTTE tricks?????
Flood gates open!!!!!
One Thousand Six Hundred & Thirty Seven More Civilians Enter Army Controlled Area
Army.lk
karu bro,
agreed machan. i was just saying it because everyone considers madduma bandara as a hero and i didnt believe it. it doesnt make im right or anything. just thought of sharing my view on that.
Can somebody shed light please...
North eastern part from puthukudyiruppu, appears to be a well planned town, with squire blocks of land and straight roads with 90 degree crossings. This is the first time i am looking at this part on Google Earth.
I am talking about this area..
One Thousand Six Hundred & Thirty Seven More Civilians Enter Army Controlled Area
Is this part of the 2000 DW was talking about, or are these new arrivals?
Gotabhaya Rajapaksa with CNN
@Duminda ..
I agree with you. The Gov should have capitalised a situation like this to discredit the LTTE propaganda. The UN has apologised but it seems no news agencies who published the initial UN allegation has given a publicity for the apology
[Gotabhaya Rajapakse with CNN]
here goes an interesting report on the Discussion;
QUOTE--
I watched the Asia News Bulletin on the CNN yesterday, which started with a coverage of the Sri Lankan conflict. Sec Def Mr. Gotabaya Rajapaksha was interviewed over the phone..and boy didn`t he give a mouthful to the CNN..
The News Presenter asked Sec Def about the Civillian casualties. Gota said, `we maintain zero casualty policy, whatever casualties there are are the work of the LTTE..
When Sec Def said this, the CNN broadcast a few videos of civillian casualties and asked about it from the Sec Def.
Sec Def returned it with fire. He asked the presenter, `Now these are clips that are disseminated by the LTTE for their propaganda. How else can the CNN calim it to be of their own? you get these from Pro-LTTE sources, because you don`t have clips of your own and you don`t know what is really happening in Mulaitivu right now.`
Then the presenter asked, `well, why don`t you let us in`..
Sec Def said, `we have allowed Al Jazeera and BBC..we took them to many places in Mulaitivu..You can`t expect us to allow you all into the conflict area, cos there are areas that the LTTE claims as theirs..we have to liberate it from them to liberate the civillians..If you allow you all to roam around Mulaitivu, finally the LTTE will get all the information from you guys which will ultimately put our security forces` strategies in jeopardy..
Sec Def was on fire and then the CNN had to cut him off saying, `sorry but we have to stop at that cos the phone line is very weak and I cant hear you well..`
--UNQUOTE
Remaining area: 159km2
-DLK
Gota blasted CNN !
He said what needs to be said said frankly. I would have loved if he put his temper aside and blasted them calmly, just like the Isrealies do.
Well done sir !!
@ Lanka Weeps
"Only in banana republic Sri Lanka can an ex-manager of a 711 store become the Defence Secretary!"
Then how about a barber becoming your leader
Mr Gotha; "mavubime avashyathawayata galapena nayakayek"
Keep it up.
Observer
"Gota blasted CNN"
I think only Gota can talk properly to international media, he talks straight rather than others like Palitha Kohona, Rajev Wijesinghe, Boogollagama who talks hundreds of words before giving an answer.
for example Al Jazeera asked a direct question from Palitha Kohona Is GOSL responsible for firing cluster bombs???
If I were him I would straight away say " No, no no way we did not fire cluster bombs and we have never fired culster bombs even in last 30 years war history.
without answering directly he went on to say something and wasted abount one miniute and then finaly said we are not responsible for cluster bombs.
Rajev Wijesinghe is the worst.
(Blogger නිසල් - நிசல் - Nisal said...
Remaining area: 159km2
-DLK)
But this has been up dated either on 29th or 2nd. Now it should be even lesser
Guys,
There is a rumor about VP being captured. Today. Any news? I got to know it through an indirect source.
"Karu said...
(Blogger නිසල් - நிசல் - Nisal said...
Remaining area: 159km2
-DLK)"
I heard it to be around 80 km2 in the morning news.
Time has come for LTTE to end the war that it is not winning
by Col. R. Hariharan
The moment of truth appears to have arrived for the Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam. Its fall could not have been more dramatic; a few days ago a few thousand people of Jaffna, on whose behalf the LTTE says it is fighting, wanted it to release the civilian population held as a human shield in a small area in the northeastern corner of the Northern Province.
Far from saving the lives of over 2.5 lakh Tamils there as it claims to be seeking to do, the LTTE has put them in the line of fire that is directed against itself.
There were two other jolts for the LTTE. In Chennai, Dravida Munnetra Kazagham leader and Chief Minister M. Karunanidhi reiterated that he does not support the LTTE that had weakened the Tamil resistance.
The European Union, Japan, Norway, and the U.S., the four co-chairs of the Oslo peace process 2002, called upon the LTTE to lay down weapons and surrender after accepting the amnesty offer put forth by the Sri Lanka government and prevent further loss of civilian life. It is an irony of fate that in 2002 the very same co-chairs had tacitly accepted the LTTE as the spokesman of the Tamil population at peace talks.
Unfortunately, instead of vigorously pursuing the objective of getting the best devolution package through the talks, the LTTE focussed on building its armed strength with the trappings of a government — its own police, judiciary and administration. It did not matter that the LTTE had to leave to the Sri Lanka government the tasks of providing health care and supplying essential goods for the people living in areas under LTTE control.
Even while speaking of its own legitimacy to take over the administration of the north and the east under the interim self- governing authority proposal, the LTTE’s pistol groups went around killing scores of people, including Foreign Minister Lakshman Kadirgamar and a General of the Sri Lanka Army.
When the tsunami came on Boxer Day 2005, thousands of Tamils perished. Their plight touched the whole world and money came pouring in from everywhere. It is true that the Sri Lanka government should share the blame for its failure to implement its agreement with the LTTE with respect to tsunami relief.
But even as the LTTE was complaining loudly about that, it was trying to strike deals worth millions of dollars with illegal arms dealers abroad to procure advanced missile systems and other weapons. This came to light during a sting operation carried out by the U.S. Federal Bureau of Investigation a year later.
The LTTE enjoyed an unprecedented level of support and goodwill among the people of Tamil Nadu during 1983. Despite its record of killing Tamil militant leaders of repute such as Sri Sabharatnam of the Tamil Eelam Liberation Organisation (TELO) and hundreds of cadres of other groups including the People’s Liberation Organisation of Tamil Eelam (PLOTE), the Prabakaran mystique persisted and many Tamils ignored his seeming character aberrations.
However, the LTTE started dissipating its goodwill in India when it colluded with its “sworn Sinhala enemy,” President Ranasinghe Premadasa, to get the Indian forces off its back and send them out of Sri Lanka. However, the LTTE did not use its newfound bonhomie with the President for the benefit of Tamils. Instead, it killed Premadasa after carrying out a bloodbath of thousands of cadres of the Eelam Peoples Revolutionary Liberation Front (EPRLF). Their only sin was that unlike the LTTE, they had accepted the Indo-Sri Lanka accord.
The LTTE relentlessly pursued the members of the EPRLF leadership who had taken refuge in India and killed many of them in Chennai. The final act of killing Rajiv Gandhi, the man who had proactively intervened in Sri Lanka to help Tamils, also killed Prabakaran’s equation with India. No amount of political or parochial rhetoric is going to repair the damage done to the LTTE’s image, particularly in Tamil Nadu, by that act.
Its failing fortunes in the present war have pushed the LTTE back to the position in which it was in 1987 — under mortal danger from the Sri Lanka security forces. It was India that rescued the LTTE then. Now that the LTTE is fighting for survival once again, its propaganda machine is asking the people of India to save Tamils in Sri Lanka. There is no sign of contrition on Prabakaran’s part for killing Rajiv Gandhi — which would have been the logical first step for mending fences with India.
But the LTTE, it seems, works on its own logic. Otherwise how do we understand its broadside against India even at this, its hour of need? The pro-LTTE TamilNet quotes an article saying, “It is an open secret that the present Indian Establishment, run by Sonia Congress, is waging its own proxy war in the island of Sri Lanka, concurrent to Colombo’s war against Tamil Nationalism. In its frustration arising from its incapability of achieving anything positively, India is not only heading for maintaining perpetual trouble in Sri Lanka, but also is inviting turmoil to a part of its own country.”
Prabakaran seems to have forgotten his own statement on India in his last Heroes Day message wherein he said: “Our people always consider India as our friend. They have great expectations that the Indian superpower will take a positive stand on our national question.” Is it all changed now when the LTTE talks of “India inviting turmoil to a part of its own country”?
The LTTE has to come to terms with the reality all over the world now. The world has lost its patience with terrorism. Most nations consider the methods used by organisations like the LTTE to be terror tactics. That was one of the main reasons for the LTTE’s downslide in the present war.
The time has come for the LTTE to give up war. It has to help the people rebuild their lives shattered by 25 years of war. Already hundreds of civilians have died in the artillery bombardment because the LTTE has not made up its mind to end the war that it is not winning. Prabakaran should act now and free them.
The way out for the LTTE is clear: Prabakaran should remove the fetters on the leaders of the Tamil National Alliance (TNA), its political proxy in the Sri Lankan Parliament, and allow them to make meaningful contributions to bringing about peace. The LTTE probably knows that its final act will be over with an offensive launched by five to six divisions of the Sri Lanka security forces on its redoubt. Before that happens, the LTTE can do one act of goodwill by letting free the hapless population it is holding today.
(Colonel (retd) R. Hariharan served as head of intelligence with the Indian Peace Keeping Force in Sri Lanka during the period 1987-1990. E-mail: colhari@yahoo.com )
Duminda,
I watched Palitha Kohona talking about cluster bombs on BBC. He first said (Dont remmeber exact wording ), Today I checked with military procurers to make sure that we do not =have the facility to fire cluster bombs. Therefore we did not drop cluster bombs. Actually that approach was not very convincing. However he makes a point ultimately.
To my surprise BBC came out with some good points about the history of the crisis. They mentioned that the British followed divide and rule concept , and hence favored tamils in Employment and other things, over majority Sinhalese.
After 1948 when sri Lanka had independence they lost the majority hence tamils started to struggle. For a moment I was wondering I am really watching BBC. This was in the same news story that interviewed Dr. Kohona.
"@ Moshe Dyan said...
ISN'T THIS CALLED EVOLUTION???
one slut by the name Harini Sivalingam has written some crap to the toronto sun.
"She is the wife of the prominent LTTE activist and founder member of the pro-LTTE Canada Tamil Congress, Garry Sangary. He is the son of Mr Ananda Sangary"."
.
.
"A sangaray --> G sangary -->H sangaray"
I know Anandan Sanagary's eldest son. He did O/L in SL around 2004 or 2005, And his name is not "Garry Sangary". And in the tamil culture your last name is not same as your fathers last name, its more like your first name is your fathers last name.
Morons must understand that If it is not Cluster Bombs, then it is ethical to Bomb Hospital ?
veeran,
Are u refering to LTTE??
"then it is ethical to Bomb Hospital ?"
can you prove that it was us who shelled the hospital?
it could have easily been LTTEers trying blame the government by shelling the hospital themselves.
you and i both know that you are capable of of killing and abusing innocent civilians under your own authority.
veeran,
I totally agree with you
LTTE should not have bombed hospitals
And you are not in a place to talk ethics.
u lost that liberty when u started using women and children as cannon fodder and after u started sending 12-13 year old children as suicide bombers.
Done want to be biased...):
Sarath Fonseka, Gotabaya, Karannagoda, Prasanna Silva and many others in the forces have one thing in common. They are based on one great principal:
"අප්පමාදෝ අමතපදං..."
appamado amathapadam
pamado machchuno padham
appamaththaa nameeyanthee
yae pamaththaa yathaamatha
RC;
The path I have taken is the ONLY possible one as at now. The path you suggest involves policy changes, political purification and perception changes. These will take generations to happen, if ever. I am trying to show you how ppl achieve the goal through the current process, rather than saying "I want all these things corrected, or else I will do nothing".
Sad about the deal closure. I see that direct interface of SL state sector with a foreign investor will not yield anything as at today. THIS is indeed the role of an expat as I define it. I know many businesses are turned down due to bureaucratic nonsense. It is a huge loss. I stand with you stating that it should be changed. But wishes and statements are all we can do. However my point is that underneath current dodgy protocols there is still life.
Buddy I'm not an agro expert. But seeing how SL handle agrarian sector, I think there is so much to do even locally. Heard that 40% of fruit cultivation is wasted in storage and transport. Something like a mobile food processing vehicle, can take the product and preserve it from the field. My naive ideas maybe worthy of jokes, but surely, agrarian is an undug gold mine. But rules are blocking many things in that sector. You can get better yield in high tech sectors.
And I hope you are convinced that I am not after your money :)
Puran/ Kavee/ Rocky,
Chalai is important place because it is the last point of Jaffna Peninsula with main land and it is the mouth of a lagoon where LTTP can hide their amphibious crafts. Also this is the preferred route of LTTP to trespass Jaffna during difficult times. It also a receiving point for smuggled war materials.
single,
//Done want to be biased...):
Sarath Fonseka, Gotabaya, Karannagoda, Prasanna Silva and many others in the forces have one thing in common. They are based on one great principal:
"අප්පමාදෝ අමතපදං..."//
nice one!!!
How is moda Lanka?
Also, updated the blog
No one reading my blog, why?
Bombings left and right
Whats next?
Kill all LTTE?
If moda Banda's didnt know, all tamils are LTTE
Killing even a single LTTE equals genocide.
If you dont want to commit genocide stop hunting down LTTE
Thanks DW
I was checkig DW for a while and it's a great job that keeping people update and give them a chance to say their opinions..
Keep it up
@Rana
Have you seen the designer roads and land plots off north puthukudiyuruppu? is seems to be a planned city.
Peter, cheer up, still some land left for tactical withdrawal :)
kavee,
no, mate. i am still Devastated with what has happened but your description says it all.
kavee said...
Hey peter, enjoyment was drying without LTTE supporters, and glad you came by.
you should find the bugger who shut mawil-aru and should punish him. I guess he is the one who should be blamed for LTTE wiping out of the country.
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Nobody closed mawilaru
It dried up because of drought
Besides whoever closed it was a low cast tamil so go tell them, I dont talk with those.
Toilet Peter,
"all tamils are LTTE.Killing even a single LTTE equals genocide.If you dont want to commit genocide stop hunting down LTTE"
then what about tamils killed by LTTE?
Ratha Regiment s', HeadQuarters captured by 57 division.
Ratha Regiment provides security to the LTTE Leader.
kavee said...
Good that you understood this simple fact even at this late stage. 50% of Sri Lankan Tamil population is living other than north and east of Sri Lanka whom are not LTTE.
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Then how do you explain suicide bombs in colombo? Chenna boys doing it?
Modayas will always be modayas
Rana,
Thanks for the info Bro.
hiru said...
then what about tamils killed by LTTE?
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They were low casts nobody cares about. The ones you made into ministers like Karuna.
Why should they live?
Pranab’s visit and after
Guest Column By Commodore R. S. Vasan
The visit of the External minister of India Pranab Mukherjee to Sri Lanka did take place after all on 27th January 2009. The regional parties in India were insisting that New Delhi take some visible concrete action for bringing about a cease fire. The parties who have traditionally supported the LTTE through the thick and thin for years insisted that India intervene to prevent the alleged genocide of the Tamil race in the Island. One of the Tamil leaders went to the extent of suggesting that there was no need for Pranab to visit the Island and all that was required was for the Indian Prime minister to pick up the phone and “order” a ceasefire as if Sri Lanka was another state of India. This despite the full knowledge of the past practices which showed that when ever a cease fire was in force, the LTTE just used the opportunity to regroup, raise funds, train and prepare for another show down depending on when it was ready.
Along with the visit of the External Affairs Minister, Government of India appeared to be keen to make its stand unambiguously clear that it had no sympathy for the LTTE , but was indeed concerned about the safety of the Tamils who were caught in the cross fire. Pranab during his visit on Tuesday lost no time in asserting that the political process should soon begin after the military action. This made it clear that India supported the military action and identified the actions of the Government of Sri Lanka as a legitimate action against a terrorist group that stands banned in over thirty counries including US, UK, Canada Australia and of course India. Sri Lanka itself was the last country that banned the organization. The statement made by Pranab that “We are for a fight against terrorists and all sorts of terrorism. Therefore we have no sympathy for any terrorists activity indulged in by any organization, particularly LTTE which is a banned organization in India”. The regional parties responded by saying that after all Pranab was confirming their doubts that the military action was fully supported by India and India was unwilling to intervene this time.
Mahinda lost no time to use the opportunity to extend an invitation to the Chief Minister of Tamil Nadu and the leader of the AIADMK to visit the Island to acquaint themselves about the ground situation in the Island and persuade LTTE to lay down arms and join the democratic process. It is very obvious that Mahinda was quite certain that the Tamil leaders did not have the heart to go to the Island. What if the ground situation is actually as has been made out by Mahinda? What clout do they enjoy with the terrorist group for ensuring that it lay down arms? LTTE has not deviated from its own agenda and has used the Tamil Diaspora only to whip up Tamil sentiments. How then would the parties continue to harp on the plight of the civilians who are held hostage by the LTTE itself?
Mahinda was indeed displaying his astute sense of timing and shrewd diplomacy in extending an open invitation to the Tamil leaders who have been talking in different voices to score political points. On one hand, he was able to send a message to the world at large openly hinting that he is in control and is indeed ensuring the safety of the civilians the fact that was open to scrutiny by those who seem to identify with the cause of Tamils. On the other, he dared the Tamil leaders to face the tiger in its own den.
The appeal by the UN at the level of the Secretary General Ban Ki Moon to both the warring parties to restore normalcy and protect innocent civilians immediately in ‘safety zones and no fire zones’ is unlikely to be heeded overnight with the complicated ground situation that defies immediate solution in terms of providing safety to the civilians. The survival instincts of LTTE would not allow them to let go of the civilian shield which extends the life span of a dying force.
Reports from the field suggest that Tamil civilians numbering 1, 50,000 to 2, 00,000 are still under the control of the LTTE unable to escape from the custody. The SL Government has alleged that the designated safety zones and no fire zones have been used by the tigers to fire at the SL forces knowing fully well that fire returned would cause collateral damage in terms of civilian causality. The LTTE on their part has been alleging that the action of the SL forces has caused much avoidable civilian causality. It has been also suggested that the numbers of civilians has been inflated to ensure that the food and other supplies from the Government would reach the LTTE to sustain their opposition.
The fact that the UN had to appeal to the LTTE to release its own officials (still held hostage?) indicates that the LTTE has not even allowed neutral UN officials to leave its controlled territory. The estimate of the area controlled today by the LTTE has been put at a little over 300 Square kilometers by the Army General Fonseka. The area presently held is just a miniscule fraction of the area under LTTE control for decades.
There is speculation about the whereabouts of the leader of the guerilla force. For some time it was said that he may have fled to Malaysia or another south eastern country. Rumours of escape by air in his Zlin 143 aircraft, by sea even in a submarine or fast craft have done the rounds. The swift action by Malaysia which acted on the rumours suggests that the destination countries are unlikely to allow Prabhakaran to use their soil. Even in Tamil Nadu, precautions have been taken and air, sea and land surveillance intensified with a view to arrest Prabhakaran if he attempts landing on Indian soil. It is clear that no nation wants the fugitive to use its soil with the credentials that he carries with him with his passport. Nadesan the political head clarified that Prabhakaran had not escaped as was made out but was in the Wanni jungles with his “people” leading them in the fight for freedom.
With the waning of the fortunes of Prabhakaran, Colonel Karuna (Vinayamurthy Muralitharan) of the break away faction appears to be becoming more vocal. He recently lambasted Karunanidhi and other regional party leaders for the support given to LTTE ignoring the larger interests of Tamils. Karuna went to the extent of accusing Prabhakaran for scuttling opportunities that were presented on many occasions to achieve lasting peace in the Island.
All things considered, analysts appear unanimous in their assessment that the end game is near for the LTTE. The regional parties will raise the pitch after realizing that UPA has no plans for bailing out LTTE this time. With the elections round the corner, UPA appears quite determined not to yield to any pressure from Tamil Nadu . The statement in the assembly by the ailing Chief Minister that he is ‘being heard solely because he is in power in Tamil Nadu and that if his giving up power would result in creation of Eelam he would gladly do so’ is clearly indicative of the helplessness of the elected government that is not in a position to change the tide. The only hope is that there would be new dawn in the Island with the military defeat of the LTTE and ushering in of a new form of governance with devolution that now Mahinda thinks desirable.
(The author is presently the Head, Strategy and Security Studies at the Center for Asia Studies at Chennai and can be contacted at rsvasan2010@gmail.com)
snipers are taking targets by the heaps.
avg 10 a day!!
confirmed by my guy.
Peter,
I know how you feel, mate, SLDF do not trying to kill Tamils. They are only killing terrorists who are responsible for countless atrocities against innocent civilians but collateral damage in some places unavoidable.
I think you are intelligent enough to realise it.
@peter
"all tamils are LTTE.Killing even a single LTTE equals genocide.If you dont want to commit genocide stop hunting down LTTE"
All tamils = LTTE
Kill LTTE = genocide
Ltte kill Tamils = ??
My head is spinning...
Rana the potato giving sermons
Lol
Puran Appu said:
// Rana,
Thanks for the info Bro.//
You welcome, brother.
I am pleased and Honor is yours.
I'm afraid what blogger Moshe Dyan says is correct.
Activists
Gary Anandasangaree Son of Anandasangaree, formerly TULF MP in the Sri Lankan Parliament and Canadian Tamil Congress founder and Liberal Party of Canada organizer.
http://www.nationmaster.com/encyclopedia/List-of-prominent-Sri-Lanka-Tamils
This is from Lankaguardian today.
(February 06, Toronto, Sri Lanka Guardian) We publish here a feature that appeared in the Toronto Sun February 4, 2009 by Harini Sivalingam. She is the wife of the prominent LTTE activist and founder member of the pro-LTTE Canada Tamil Congress, Garry Sangary. He is the son of Mr Ananda Sangary and politically he has taken a stand against his father.
http://www.srilankaguardian.org/2009/02/canada-can-help-sri-lanka.html
I have worked with him in the CTC in the initial stages.
kavee,
Name one LTTE that a tamil killed?
"They were low casts nobody cares about"
haka haka haka
hiru,
You are low cast as well
haka haka haka
@peter,
your arguments are so confusing which entangled you also.
Now you ask me "Name one LTTE that a tamil killed?" i guess your question should be the other way round taking your previous comment into account :)
when I said Toilet Peter,
Peter replied.....
haka haka haka
bye Toilet Peter....
Now that the war is almost over, it is high time to have a national dialogue on the political solution. Unfortunately the government don't have anything ready and the war is fast finishing.
Ordinary Tamils never wanted war. We only wanted dignity. Both Sinhala and Tamil politicians did mistakes.
Lets move forward. A people centered solution is needed. Intellectual people should get together and decide the model solution based on power sharing. After agreeing they can present it to politicians. If we wait for politicians to do it we have to wait forever.
off for a long holiday...
by the time I come back on Tuesday,,,peelam would be all over
@peter,
hey, why don't you tell something about your cast pal. Wish to know something about your "high cast"
We must stand up for LTTE
I encourage all tamils to participate in the struggle in any way they can.
Make a placard and hold it up, doesnt matter if it's indoors.
@peter
[We must stand up for LTTE]
I guess no low cast Tamils please
kavee said...
hey, why don't you tell something about your cast pal. Wish to know something about your "high cast"
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You Chenna boys dont have a cast system, have no structure in society and are mixed with the lowests casts. Dont be jealous we have something moda Banda's dont.
[Make a placard and hold it up, doesnt matter if it's indoors.]
If you can't find one, hang your underwear !!
Sivanesan, said.
// Now that the war is almost over, it is high time to have a national dialogue on the political solution. Unfortunately the government don't have anything ready and the war is fast finishing.
Ordinary Tamils never wanted war. We only wanted dignity. Both Sinhala and Tamil politicians did mistakes.
Lets move forward. A people centered solution is needed. Intellectual people should get together and decide the model solution based on power sharing. After agreeing they can present it to politicians. If we wait for politicians to do it we have to wait forever.//
Mate, if you are in sri lanks, don’t wait for others. You start it. There are plenty of genuine guys, around and they will support it.
kavee said...
I guess no low cast Tamils please
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No they can stand up, they are not allowed to hold higher posts.
Stay out of our business or we will start Ezham war 5 with ceaseless waves.
@peter
[You Chenna boys dont have a cast system, have no structure in society and are mixed with the lowests casts. Dont be jealous we have something moda Banda's dont.]
this encourages me to learn about your high cast peter!! why don't you tell us something about it :)
AMAZING: Assess for Yourself B. Raman's Bias against Sri Lanka
He states:
1. Sri Lanka has no high quality educational institutions of higher learning although it has higher litaeracy
2. Sri Lanka's economy is a backward plantation economy supplemented by tourism
3. Most LTTE cadre joined Long after Rajiv's assaination!
4. LTTE had no role in Rajiv Gandhi assasination
5. He bemoans the fact that "Rajapaksa has skillfully and cunningly used Indian support and ambivalence to destroy not only the capability of the LTTE for terrorism, but also its potential and usefulness to India in future as a political strategic asset.....Manmohan Singh, the present Prime Minister, has let go our strategic assets in Nepal and Sri Lanka"
6. India is hoping to play an important role in the economic development of the Tamil areas in the North and the East when the LTTE is defeated by the Sri Lankan Army.
WHAT A LIAR! I have long maintained that we have to keep INDIA at an arm's length from Sri Lanka, establish global alliances, and develop a strong military and economy that is not dependent on INDIA. This RAW insider's statements confirms the wisdom of that. Also, I really hope that we don't allow direct Indian ECONOMIC INTEFERENCE in the North & East, or allow India to achieve a LARGE ECONOMIC STAKE in Sri Lanka. That is the thin end of the wedge that will drive deeper into the heart of our independence.
Sri Lanka: India's Moment Of Truth
By B. Raman
(Text of an interview through E-mail given by me to a Russian journal)
(a). Sri Lanka is less developed than India because even though the percentage of literacy in Sri Lanka is high, it does not as yet have educational institutions of excellence like the Institutes of Technology in India. India has better human and material resources than Sri Lanka. The Indian economy is highly diversified. The Sri Lankan economy is still a
three-item economy---tea, rubber and tourism.
(b). Its economy is dependent on tea, rubber and tourism. The main tea and rubber growing areas are in the South where the Sinhalese are in a majority and not in the North and the East where the Tamils are in a majority. The insurgency has, therefore, not badly affected these three items. Iran, Pakistan and China are funding its arms purchases. Teheran has been supplying oil at concessional prices and giving it cheap credit to enable it to pay for the arms purchases. Pakistan and China sell arms at concessional rates and provide low-interest credit to enable Sri Lanka to pay for them.
(c). India's interest in the island is partly emotional and partly strategic. The emotional interest arises from the fact that India has a large Tamil population in Tamil Nadu, a southern province, who have ethnically and linguistically much in common with the Tamils of Sri Lanka. Any policies of the Government of Sri Lanka, which affect the Sri Lankan Tamils, have an echo in Tamil Nadu. Hence, the close Indian interest in the problems and the well-being of the Sri Lankan Tamils. Strategically, the Sri Lankan Government has been cultivating China and Pakistan to keep India in check. It has good political and economic relations with China. It has invited China to construct a modern port in Hambantota in southern Sri Lanka. It has invited the Chinese to help it in gas exploration in areas which are close to India. Similarly, there is a growing military-military relationship between Sri Lanka and Pakistan, which worries India.
(d). Indian aid is partly economic and partly military. The economic aid is in the form of cheap credit to enable Sri Lanka to import from India what it needs. India has been helping in gas exploration and has taken on lease the large number of oil storage tanks in Trincomallee in the Eastern Province, which were constructed by the British during the Second World War. India is hoping to play an important role in the economic development of the Tamil areas in the North and the East when the LTTE is defeated by the Sri Lankan Army. The military aid is in the form of supply of defensive equipment such as radars at concessional prices and training to the Sri Lankan Armed Forces and Police in India.
(e). The Sri Lankan President Mahinda Rajapaksa comes from a party (the Sri Lanka Freedom Party (SLFP), which is left of centre and has been traditionally friendly to India. He has been warm to India and claims to be attentive to India's strategic interests. At the same time, he has been determined to crush the LTTE not only as a terrorist organisation, but also as a Tamil political movement with assistance from India, if possible, and from China and Pakistan, if necessary. Sensitivities of Tamil public opinion in Tamil Nadu have put limits on the kind of military assistance that India can give to Sri Lanka. He has tried to make up for this by seeking assistance from China and Pakistan and credit from Iran. Thus, the strategic space for India in Sri Lanka is slowly getting reduced due to the increasing presence of not only China, Pakistan and Iran, but also the US. In the past, India was concerned over the US presence in Sri Lanka. It is no longer so since Dr. Manmohan Singh became the Prime Minister in 2004. He does not share the traditional concerns of India over the impact of the US presence in the Indian neighbourhood on the regional influence of India. As a result of the victories of the Sri Lankan Army, there has been an increase in Sinhalese pride and chauvinism. Just now, Rajapaksa has been assuring India that once he crushes the LTTE, he would give to the Tamils a federal set-up which will satisfy their political aspirations. It is doubtful whether he would keep his word In view of the increased influence of Sinhalese extremism on policy-making, he is likely to go back on his word and give the Tamils something less than what he had promised. It would have been in India's interest to help him in destroying the LTTE's capability for insurgency and terrorism, while at the same time preserving its potential and strength as a political movement which would safeguard the interests of the Tamils.
Of all the Tamil organisations in Sri Lanka, the LTTE was the most motivated. Many of its young cadres, who fought ferociously against the SL Army, joined it long after the assassination of Rajiv Gandhi in 1991. They had no role in his assassination. India should have made a distinction between those who had a role in his assassination and those who did not and tried to wean away the latter to India's side. It did not do so. It was a very short-sighted policy. Rajapaksa has skillfully and cunningly used Indian support and ambivalence to destroy not only the capability of the LTTE for terrorism, but also its potential and usefulness to India in future as a political strategic asset. Indian political class never understands the importance of identifying and preserving our strategic assets in the neighbourhood. Jawaharlal Nehru let go our strategic assets in Tibet. I. K.Gujral, who was the Prime Minister in 1997, unwisely and in a moment of misplaced generosity let go our strategic assets in Pakistan. Manmohan Singh, the present Prime Minister, has let go our strategic assets in Nepal and Sri Lanka. It could be a great tragedy.
(The writer is Additional Secretary (retd), Cabinet Secretariat, Govt. of India, New Delhi, and, presently, Director, Institute For Topical Studies, Chennai. E-mail: seventyone2@gmail.com)
kavee said...
this encourages me to learn about your high cast peter!! why don't you tell us something about it :)
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You just want to know to make fun of me so wait as long as you like you will never know.
Whole world is begging SL to do what LTTE was doing for years, Stop the war.
But why wont you listen?
Rana,
I'm not based in Sri Lanka. Thanks to information technology we can discuss wherever we are.
What we need is the dialogue to start ASAP. To be genuine it should start before the war is completely over. Ideally by the time the war is complete we should have a solution.
If Tamils are made to feel that they are decision makers in their own areas, they will never be fooled by violent elements. We never wanted violence. Our peaceful movement was hijacked by violent people. Now look what they have done? They have made the whole movement collapse. They went down with Tamil peaceful aspirations, not alone.
I have many Sinhala friends and most of them agree with me. You get extremists in any society. We should steer clear of them to find a solution.
It is not easy but doable.
@peter
Oh no no, O' great Peter. It is dire desire to learn about your great cast :)
Sivanesan said...
If Tamils are made to feel that they are decision makers in their own areas
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This is what Ezham is all about
Shut up Sivenesan.
Peter, for which cast you call as "parayen"?
@Sivanesan
[If Tamils are made to feel that they are decision makers in their own areas]
hard luck pal, there is no such places as tamil's own areas.... this is Sri Lanka, and it is for Sri Lankans only.... don't cross the line please.
Ratha Regiment HQ captured
Sivanesan,
Do you really love Sri Lanka as your mother land? That gives you the answer for all tamils. First we should try to correct over selves.
@peter
LTTE has only few sq.miles for any more tactical withdrawal. any more plans?
B#1,
Parayen race must stand at a distance of seventy-two paces from the Brahman and Nair
The Kunnakuns may approach within sixty-four, and other servile castes within forty-eight paces of the priestly and military orders.
Moda Bandas just wouldnt understand the complexity of our civilization.
@peter
[Moda Bandas just wouldnt understand the complexity of our civilization.]
true enough, seems very complicated. So how can you keep the distance when you screw low cast woman?
kavee said...
LTTE has only few sq.miles for any more tactical withdrawal. any more plans?
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LTTE population is going through a restructuring process now.
Land we hold is enough for current population of Ezham nation.
If we need more we'll recapture it.
@Sivanesan
[If Tamils are made to feel that they are decision makers in their own areas]
Unless you come out of the illusion of "tamil own ares", you wont be much different to a gross LTTE losers, sorry pal.
I sense a fake peter here :)
kavee said...
true enough, seems very complicated. So how can you keep the distance when you screw low cast woman?
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No we dont screw sinhalese women, not because they dont let us but because we choose not to.
@peter
[No we dont screw sinhalese women, not because they dont let us but because we choose not to.]
got it, then what about karuna's kind... when screwing up tamil low cast woman?
kavee,
I think you should worry about soldiers getting the kiss of death from Puthukuddu
I must say, after listening to both BBC and CNN interviews of GR, GR missed to drive the message strongly. This is written with utmost respect to his work. I feel he himself would feel it if he listen to his own responses.
He has achieved what no other Def. Sec. has been able to achieve any where in the world. Yet, he sounded bit tense, agitated and out of control.
I would have wished him to be more reserved, calculating and composed in his responses.
Quality of lines/recording was not helpful either.
My main worry is whether he is under immense pressure. I think he must not made him available to media until the final outcome is reached and appoint someone else to act on his behalf.
@Peter
[I think you should worry about soldiers getting the kiss of death from Puthukuddu]
no no, let the LTTE loose, we should continue on the discussion on Cast, very interesting... By the way, your city names also very complicated like the casts, right, you cannot even right the full name of the city "Puthukuddu"
GR revealed his true colors for all to see
MR next?
Peter, :p
Take sinhalese, at Tsunami time they all helped each other by donating whatever they have. But still I didn't hear any of tamils came forward and did something to the IDPs in north. Specially Jaffna tamils are not helpful for each other. They are very selfish. Why is that?
Kasippu kavee needs his daily fix
Take sinhalese, at Tsunami time they all helped each other by donating whatever they have. But still I didn't hear any of tamils came forward and did something to the IDPs in north.
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Tamils did but media wasnt there to report it because GOSL banned reporters.
@Saman,
[My main worry is whether he is under immense pressure. I think he must not made him available to media until the final outcome is reached and appoint someone else to act on his behalf.]
He should be in immanence pressure, for sure. But i guess he cannot absent from media either. he may be not doing very well in the media, but what happen so far out of his furious speeches was not brought too much bad either. Western media is now using statements to mention about the not-so-credible sources before preaching things taken from LTTE sources.
B#1,
Some tamils are selfish just like the millitary wing of LTTE is violent.
But is it fair to put all Tamils in the same basket? It's as ridiculous as calling all LTTE terrorists.
Another View: Eelam Conflict Through Indian Eyes
Patriots, read and experience the disrespect that many Indians have for our country and our society, despite the much greater problems of communal violence, social inequity, illiteracy and abject poverty that exist in their own country, blithely disregarding their responsibility for the 30 years of conflict they spawned in Sri Lanka.
If you become ANGRY, as I did, then CHANNEL THAT ANGER TOWARDS A QUIET DETERMINATION to do your utmost to help uplift Sri Lanka to earn the envy of India and the entire World. Carpe' Diem!
PART 3: India-Sri Lanka-the Tamils: what madness?
Ravi Sundaralingam
......The civil war in the island could not have reached the level if it weren’t for the intervention of India.
Indian interventions before the civil war has always been to placate the Sinhala establishment. Signing away accords to repatriate Plantation Tamils to Tamil Nadu is one example, without any consultation with TN leaders. This depletion of the Tamil population inadvertently paved the way for reinforcing the arguments by the Sinhala chauvinists, and thereby undermined the concept of citizenship of the island, particularly for the Tamils. It carried on regardless with this attitude to buy off the Sinhala leaderships by handing over Kachchaithevu, hoping to safeguard its ‘strategic interests’.
These weren’t part of a plan or a strategy, but crude and ad hoc behaviour based on personal friendships with abysmal attitude towards the rights and belonging of others; comparing it to human-sacrifice of someone else baby to gratify some stupid god would not be far off the mark. As with the stupid god these are never enough and, as they weren’t part of a credible strategy never persuasive enough to underline India’s expectations with the Sinhala establishment.
If not, in its 2nd phase of intervention why would Delhi arm the Tamil militants or ‘invade’ the island with MIGs load of cooking-oil and rice to bring some sense to JR Jeyawardena, who was behaving as though Sri Lanka was part of the NATO, then in a bi-polar world?
Without doubt its support for the Tamil militants helped them launch ‘terrorist’ attacks in Sinhala areas. It condoned LTTE's elimination of all other groups by its promotion of the LTTE as the sole representatives in all the talks from Bangalore on until the formation of the North-East Provincial Council, undermining the basic principles of democracy. Pluralism and democracy the new words some writers have discovered recently were put to rest by these non-existent strategy.
Unless Delhi was hoping it would be easier to deal and achieve its objectives with a non-political military outfit, with the ferocity to match its name. It was careful however, to involve the then TN leader MGR in a process what it thought was the conclusion of that phase, with the signing of yet another accord on Tamils behalf in 1987.
Now Delhi has come full circle and support the destruction of the LTTE, again we have to believe, as part of a grand and cunning scheme to bring peace to the island; once again at the expense of the Tamil speaking communities.
These historical observations and conditions Delhi places upon the Tamil communities in Sri Lanka simply negate the importance of the Tamil communities in the island as part of Delhi’s strategic interests, except to be used as catalysts when required. Since they are not so important, only the negatives of the LTTE and the security concern they bring to region become the interests and therefore, LTTE has become the main focus. Having allowed all other Tamil groups, militants and moderates to be eliminated, Delhi can now kill of its creation to leave the Tamils at the mercy of the Sinhala establishment.
If Delhi wanted to deny the LTTE a final say in the outcome of the civil war, then shutting out the Tamil Nadu ensures that the entire Tamil side, as a whole, didn’t have a decisive say on the matter. Delhi knows the strengths and weaknesses of the Tamil Expatriate communities, because of their support for the LTTE thus, it would be easier to shut them.
This consistent pattern in its dealings with the Tamil issues suggests that Delhi doesn’t entertain a triangular relationship with Sinhala establishment and the Tamils. Delhi therefore, gets ‘constructively’ engaged with the Sinhala establishment again by trying to placate its desire to overwhelm its ‘only traditional enemy’, the Tamils. This time Delhi is giving the impression that it has certain solution in mind; thirteen plus with thirty nine steps.
Therefore, the dynamic principles of ‘greater-madness’ aren’t there for Delhi to reach for it as a strategy.
In Sri Lanka Mahinda Rajapackshe is winning battles after battles against the LTTE, the sole representative of the Tamil resistance. The LTTE too employed similar strategy, a form of 'greater madness' by eliminating all other options for ‘India or anyone else’. Every single political group, whether they posed a political or military threat, was wiped out, and LTTE alone was left as the only option; which they presented as the sole-representation. Obviously their object of desire certainly wasn't the Tamil communities or like the Israelis had any power specific in their plan. There wasn’t a triangular relationship to talk about as the LTTE left open that space for anyone to fit its bill. This weakness within its strategy, not choosing anyone as a strategic-partner, invalidates its plan, even to be considered to be in the category of greater-madness. Its atrocities and the victories against other groups were mere primitive desire of a group for domination, beating the competitors before defeating the enemy; a trait of ordinary madness. This became obvious as it later joined forces with its 'historical' enemy, the Sinhala state, to eject the Indians out of the island in a war against the IPKF, which lead to the tragedy for the entire Tamil communities in Sri Lanka and India; the murder of Rajive Gandhi.
If, that is a very big if, LTTE had chosen India as its object of desire would that have made any difference to Delhi’s ultimate objectives? Instead of fighting the IPKF if it had cooperated and accepted to run the North-East Provincial Council would there been an opportunity even if Delhi had other plans to turn the eventualities in its favour? By fighting the IPKF, LTTE has revived the bad taste the Indian strategists had with the creation of Bangladesh; who killed Mujib and which group is truly anti-Indian are unnecessary debate as they wouldn’t want yet another hostile space on its Southern front. Well answers for these or arguments are just academic now, but have a real meaning for the time to come. However, it is true if anyone of the three were to have test this theory out, it was the LTTE that missed the best opportunity.
Yet, we know for many reasons beyond these arguments and implications we would not expect the LTTE to deploy or be successful with such a strategy. Sri Lanka is not Middle East in any form of imagination, and it is not part of an economy as that of Israel within US. Neither Sri Lanka nor the LTTE can be compared to the Israelis as they are conducting a war within a unitary state in contrast to that with the Palestinians.
As for the Sri Lankan state these ideas of ‘greater madness’ are far fetched as its acceptance to be part of an Indian influenced region. It exhibits all the knowledge of a failed state, which it is, in its victories and defeats against a failing organisation. Its expectation and objectives are as limited as their leaders ability to convince those who are opposed to them; eliminating or silencing them like the Editor of the Sunday Leader News paper.
Only those with exceptional ability, intellectual acumen and wisdom can decipher the difference, as thin as a cigarette-rolling paper, between Mahinda’s Sinhala state and the LTTE in terms of their understanding of the region, democracy, responsibility and value for simple, very basic human rights. Only the merchants of garbage can compare on with another and see the virtue of one of them. Then again, just as anytime in the history of human suffering and fight for survival, there is plenty of money to be made in the garbage business. A coherent strategy? For big-men,what madness?
(Ravi Sundaralingam is the Academic Secretary of ASATiC and can be reached at Academic_secretary@gmail.com)
[Tamils did but media wasnt there to report it because GOSL banned reporters.]
No no, High cast Tamils like peter had to stay many feet away from the general low cast. So he could not do much, but i am sure peter was trying to use some sticks to work keeping the distance.
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