Though the entire country supporting a quick resolution of the hostage crisis is paranoid, particularly around a 'delay in finishing this war', the Sri Lanka Army and Military Planners has maintained remarkable cool. No Army in the history of warfare has been subject to this much pressure and maintained such cool against all odds.
What can be characterized as a remarkable success is the Army's choice to use its brains in this final phase of operations rather than muscle or brute force. This is complemented by a clear political strategy under the elected leadership. The Military and political leadership has demonstrated, against all odds, that military action is only a means of achieving the end, which as always, is political.
The Sri Lankan Military has responded constructively to criticism and demonstrated a sensitivity to the political environment in the region and elsewhere. Its respect for civilian life, and accountability has been very high for an Army from the 'global south' and goes above and beyond armies from powerful western countries whose mistakes are often untouchable to the UN, media, diaspora or anti-war propaganda.
No Army would endure such painstaking maneuvers as the Sri Lanka Army has when all it needs is to overrun the 4km2 stretch of land to finish in a few hours what it has endured for 30 years. Even the smaller Malvidian Army could overrun this area in hours but the Sri Lankans are not willing to risk civilian lives.
This is the fundamental value of a military-- to protect those who cannot protect themselves and to act ONLY on the orders of those elected by the people. These are the enduring signs of a professional military functioning within a democracy.
The Sri Lanka military has sacrificed the easier option, not because of international pressure, since such pressure is being exerted regardless, but because of these fundamental values. Until this hostage taking by the LTTE, which increased by 100% the chances of civilian casualties, the Sri Lankan Military had avoided any serious incidents of collateral damage.
Any responsible state issuing edicts against the Sri Lankan state on alleged misconduct by its military should think very clearly the message it sends out to other armies around the world. The message is that you can be penalized for whatever effort you may take to preserve human life in times of war, so why try it in the first place?
Not even the famous 'carrot and sticks' approach of the West was afforded to the Sri Lankan military. No carrots have ever been given by those states that lead this criticism though there have been a fair share of sticks.
Such criticism sets a very bad precedence to other, not so professional armies around the world who are learning from this example/experience that modern wars can indeed be won without 80% civilian casualties. In fact, the past three years of the humanitarian operation have recorded the lowest casualties to civilians though heavy fighting had ensued in 6 Districts.
The Sri Lanka Army, unlike its more powerful counterparts, do not fire at passing civilian vehicles on the road when they venture near a convoy or (despite its technological advancements) are unable to prevent avoidable incidents of collateral damage.
A Paranoid LTTE is worse than any off-target artillery
Having reached the outskirts of a newly declared safe zone within the remaining No Fire Zone, the only threat to the trapped civilians and the Sri Lanka Army is the paranoia that's crept into the LTTE, which is a catastrophe waiting to happen. Unfortunately, nothing has been done by the Internationals to mitigate this very serious threat.
LTTE's cowardice reached a new level after its latest attack on civilians attempting to move to a newly demarcated No Fire Zone. There are conflicting reports as to how many civilians have been killed in this LTTE attack, but the numbers could be over 400.
With the latest possibility of losing their human shield, the LTTE seems to have lost its cool completely. The objective of the Army was to get civilians out of harms way from the LTTE by moving them away from the Nanthikadal lagoon and towards the Mulaitivu coast by splitting the remaining portion of land inside the NFZ. But the Tigers had cold feet.
The Tigers want the civilians to remain at Nanthikadal lagoon where a series of bunkers and strong points provide protection to the LTTE leadership. This area is well fortified, whereas the coastal area is not.
Knowing that the fortifications are no match for the Army, the only possibility of guaranteeing survival for the Tiger leadership is to have the civilians on the side of the Nanthikadal lagoon. This should demonstrate to any observer beyond reasonable doubt that the Sri Lankan Military is not willing to risk civilian lives no matter what.
The 4mk2 land area, part of the NFZ declared by the government for the safety of the civilians is also where the LTTE leadership, unable to face the Sri Lankan military, is also hiding. Although this fact needs no mentioning, certain sections of the 'International Community' seem to have forgotten this reality.
Either way, the week starting 10th May will be crucial for both sides. Anything is possible with the Army reaching the outskirts of the newly declared NFZ.
dA & DW
Monday, May 11, 2009
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Macho, harima lesei, mama wisi parakata wediya dalayi thiyenne.
yanna site ekata, danna chande, close the site completely. Open it again, chande ahith danna. close it again, do it again.
That is all!
Machanla,
CNN poll ekata apey manthri kenekuta kivva nam hari. aduma ganey votes 100000 danava. :))
Dumindata kiyamuda, prasannata kiyamuda :D
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Sign off from your google or any other account before you close.
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time that we realise that separatists have resources to read what you write in sinhalese. Also I guess even some (at least one) whospeak in sinhalse are also one of them
Guys,
Me CNN chandeta, apita thawa ratakenuth udav thiyanawa. Mokkakda danwada ei rata?
Nama patan ganne "C" walin.
Ei rate minussu gana dannawa neda? Ehe Internet thiyana ayagen 10% demmath kochacharada.
Look
CNN should use there damn brains when putting a poll, anyone can use anonymouse proxies on the internet to vote and revote, Im sure the 46% thats there is maybe the diaspora using anonymouse proxies to vote, if CNN had bloody brains, they would have used ssl encryption on the page, to preven the use of atleast the freely available anonymouse proxies.The Poll is Bullshit
මම මගේ ප්රජාතන්ත්රවාදී අයිතිය පාවිච්චි කරලා ඡන්දය පාවිච්චි කලා සෑහෙන්න...වෙබ් අඩවි ඉතිහාසය සහ පොඩි ස්ක්රිප්ට් එකක් දැම්මහම සෑහෙන්න ඡන්ද ව්යාපාරය කරන්න පුලුවන්
අලුත්ම ප්රතිපල
ඔව් - සීයට හතලිස් හයයි.
නෑ - සීයට පනස් හතරයි
Sri Lankan Army is killing innocent Tamils.. they keep on killing and raping women. I saw in my own two eyes how a women got raped. I myself is a Doctor (T Varatharaja) who is working in LTTE controlled area. I am a government MBBS Doctor.
There are enough evidence to prove that Sri Lankan Army is killing Tamils. I have photos as well as have all the evidence. Please go to TamilNet as BBC I sent email to them continuously..
I think all the videos that SL army released saying that they took them through Spy plane (to prove how LTTE is killing their own people) are manually created to support/ hide their genocide over Tamils. I never think or have seen LTTE killing Tamils, they are the whole body that represent Tamil of this world, so can anybody believe if one say that they are shooting/ shelling on Tamils who are fleeing away.
We here have enough weapons thanks to the support given by Ranil (the traitor) but MR is not giving us enough medicines. Please support us.. IC need to intervene and help us form a mother land for Tamils.. otherwise we will keep on driving all out diasporas to attack embassies..
We are the world most ruthless terrorist group in the world, go and check our profile in FBI. Help us sail through this rough period.. you help us now we will pay you back later..
Look at India its economy is threatening America and all other European countries.. India is too big and needed to be broken apart.. let us help you to do that.. Obama also is not fully supporting us, please put pleasure on America to send more medicine (please don’t send weapons as we do have enough weapons) to us..
God bless all of you.. we want peace.. so let us have a piece
Machangla,
Bohoma isthuthi.
Den oya awawada tika makala daanna.
CNN poll now more than 50
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Dear wijayapala,
Thank you for replying to my comments without labelling me as pro-LTTE.
“I suggest you read what DBS Jeyaraj (no friend of the govt) wrote about how the LTTE is seeking a permanent ceasefire precisely so that it won't have to give up the civilians it is forcibly holding. Therefore your argument neatly meshes with the LTTE's (though probably unwittingly).”
I don’t need to read DBS Jeyaraj to know that is likely true. So insofar as I want a ceasefire, and the LTTE wants a ceasefire, our arguments do indeed mesh – just as your desire for an ongoing military campaign meshes with that of Sinhala fascists. This is beside the point. It is not who shares our beliefs that determines their validity, but the beliefs themselves.
Again, you seem to contradict yourself. How could the LTTE use civilians as a human shield, and thus endanger their lives, if there was a permanent ceasefire? How could the SLA try to eliminate the LTTE, if there was a permanent ceasefire?
”Then what would be in the civilians' best interest- and how do you propose to *realistically* get there??"
Since you haven’t challenged my point about the East being just as bad, if not worse, under Pillayan/Karuna compared to the LTTE, I’ll assume that you agree with me. In which case, what makes all these civilian deaths – probably well over 6 000 this year alone, which is close to 10% of the total civilian casualties since the beginning of the war 25 years ago, a staggering figure – what makes them “worth” it? Fact is, I don’t need to propose some radical alternative to your military solution, but only need to point out that maintaining the status quo (e.g. via a permanent ceasefire) would at least avoid hundreds/thousands more civilian deaths. The Tamils would still suffer under the LTTE, but, as I’ve said earlier, that’s no different to them suffering under a different master.
Of course, I think that the people of SL, and especially the long-suffering Tamil, Muslim and Sinhala people of the N-E, deserve far better than the status quo. I just don’t think the SLA will be the vehicle for achieving that, just as it hasn’t been in the East, or in Jaffna for that matter. Real change comes from below.
“I make a distinction between attacking LTTE vehicles (which would kill leaders and bring the war that much closer to an end) and saturating the entire area with shells and rockets- the 2nd leading to a real "bloodbath"- which would bring the war even closer to an end but would kill all the civilians.”
I don’t think that the bit I quoted was referring to shelling aimed at LTTE vehicles, but I might be wrong. There is a paragraph in the report about the army shelling LTTE vehicles, but that is earlier on. On my reading, the part of the report I quoted was alleging that the SLA was shelling civilians at times it was “unlikely” the LTTE was firing in the vicinity.
If you’re saying it’s OK for the SLA to attack LTTE vehicles without regard for the civilians in the immediate vicinity - when those vehicles aren’t even firing on the SLA - then that’s really no different from the suicide bomber who attacks a politician and brushes off the civilian deaths as collateral. Is that what you believe?
"Why didn't the UTHR mention that?"
I don’t know. Possibly they don’t have contact with the medical staff at the various hospitals like HRW does, or (more likely) the medical staff contacted HRW rather than UTHR, because they figured HRW is a better outlet for getting their message out to the world. A fairly accurate assessment. I mean, consider the number of media references to the HRW compared to the UTHR report.
What reason would HRW have to lie?
Dear Mr. Reasonably Treasonable
Lets Put the status clear, the LTTE, with only about 4,000 civilians within the territory of 3 squared kilometers,declaring a ceasefire, when the remainder of the Tamils (in Sri Lanka)are in government controlled areas, why dont we ask them who they prefer, the LTTE + Diaspora or the Sri Lankan government ( which of course was democratically elected). so you want a 3 square kilometer nation, I think there is this set of islands called the anda-manda islands, I beleive its a little larger than 3 square kilometers, why dont you go put up your country there ha..?
wijayapala,
Also, as far as a "real bloodbath" goes, do the 300+ civilian deaths from government shelling over the weekend count in your books as a "real bloodbath"?
Blogger Reasonably Treasonable,said
"What reason would HRW have to lie?"
HRW's researchers depends on contributions for their salaries. So they must create controversy and shocking news in order to get visitors to their website. So they are just like many newspaper who often prefers sensationalistic stories to the truth. Not that they will make obvious lies themselves. They will just gladly quote the most shocking falsehoods LTTE (and their proxies in the territory LTTE control) spit out.
"n which case, what makes all these civilian deaths – probably well over 6 000 this year alone"
This number comes from the LTTE and their proxies.
"then that’s really no different from the suicide bomber who attacks a politician and brushes off the civilian deaths as collateral. Is that what you believe?"
A democratically elected politician not directing military matters is not a military target. Of course, the LTTE usually directly bomb civilians without any pretense of a military target.
"the East being just as bad, if not worse, under Pillayan/Karuna compared to the LTTE, "
The East do not have, or very little, forced conscription, child soldiers, and ethnic cleansing. It does have almost all IDPS resettled, no large scale war, very strong economic growth, and rising living standards.
Nilambare,
About Defence secretary's interview.
Actually it wasn't a regular interview. It was while giving a news item on Sri Lanka, they asked him about the negative reports of shelling a hospital according to a govt. doctor in NFZ. He lost his rag and said why don't you interview people who have been rescued rather than from trapped people who are being forced by LTTE to level allegations. He went on ignoring other questions the presenter was posing.
This was during their bulletin last evening about 6.30. I don't think there is a link for you to see the interview.
Patriots,
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We are now 54%. We can get to at least 75 % if we try.
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Infinity,
“HRW's researchers depends on contributions for their salaries. So they must create controversy and shocking news in order to get visitors to their website. So they are just like many newspaper who often prefers sensationalistic stories to the truth. Not that they will make obvious lies themselves. They will just gladly quote the most shocking falsehoods LTTE (and their proxies in the territory LTTE control) spit out.”
If HRW reported lie/falsehoods as a habit (just to gain hits on their webpage!), they would have lost all their credibility by now. Why do you think they haven’t? Is there a big worldwide conspiracy to keep HRW afloat? You sound like a conspiracy theorist. What’s your evidence that the HRW is basing their evidence on LTTE proxies?
“This number comes from the LTTE and their proxies.”
Actually, it comes from the UN. Is the UN on the payroll of the LTTE now? If so, why did they actually not release the report publicly? Why was it leaked to the media?
“A democratically elected politician not directing military matters is not a military target. Of course, the LTTE usually directly bomb civilians without any pretense of a military target.”
So if the LTTE blew up, say, Sarath Fonseka in a crowded theatre, that would be legitimate in your eyes? That’s no different from the SLA attacking non-firing LTTE vehicles without regard for civilians in the vicinity.
As for bombing civilians without any pretence of a target, the SLA has become pretty adept at that, too, though they seem to have acquired a preference for civilians in hospitals. But of course you will just call that LTTE propaganda.
“The East do not have, or very little, forced conscription, child soldiers, and ethnic cleansing. It does have almost all IDPS resettled, no large scale war, very strong economic growth, and rising living standards.”
This is from a very recent report about the East (you can read it here: http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/asia/090430/eastern-province-offers-glimpse-post-war-sri-lanka):
“Many residents of the Eastern Province would not recognize this description of their homeland. Their daily lives remain wracked with fears of violence, abductions, rape, illegal taxation and ongoing oppression by government security forces and government-supported paramilitary groups, such as the Tamil Makkal Viduthalai Pulikal (TMVP).
“This is almost worse than before,” said one resident of Trincomalee, referring to the period until mid-2007 when the East was under the control of the LTTE. “We are not living, we are still surviving. We know anytime, anything can happen to us.”
…
“This is the terror of the people now,” said one government employee, referring to the spate of murders, abductions and rapes.
“The government is not in control of law and order here. The LTTE system still operates, whether it’s now TMVP, Karuna, or whatever. The same old guy who collected taxes for the LTTE now collects money for TMVP. We are bleeding to death. The economy is bleeding to death”“We were complaining in those days that we had to pay taxes but in retrospect it was better than this,” said one man in his 20s who lives in Batticaloa district. “Before when we paid taxes at least we had the satisfaction that it was for our protection [by the LTTE].”
SLA=GENOCIDERS
CJ
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13 killed in Maoist ambush in ChhattisgarhMay 11, 2009
[ RAIPUR: Twelve policemen and a civilian were killed and six others injured after 150 heavily armed Maoist guerrillas ambushed a 41-member police force in Chhattisgarh, officials said Monday.
The attack on the District Force (DF) search convoy in Dhamtari district's hillside Risgaon village took place late Sunday.
"The heavily armed rebels first triggered multiple blasts and then opened indiscriminate fire from hilltops on jawans. Ten constables, one hawaldar, one special police officer (SPO) and a civilian, who was the driver of one of the vehicles, were killed," Girdhari Nayak, additional director general of police, told IANS.
The incident took place 130 km from here.
"It's the first attack of insurgents in Dhamtari district. The jawans belonging to Kanker DF were travelling in three vehicles," said Pawan Deo, deputy inspector general (Maoist operations) at the police headquarters.
A helicopter sent by the state government Monday morning brought back three seriously injured policemen who have been admitted to the Ramkrishna Care Hospital here.
The search squad was sent to the area after intelligence inputs suggested that dozens of Maoists were to meet there. The information proved to be a trap.
Rebels have stepped up attacks on police and civilians over the last week. On May 6, Maoists killed 11 people, including seven security personnel, in Bastar region. A day later, a police station in-charge was stabbed to death in full public view in the same region.
On May 5, a senior leader of the state's ruling Bharatiya Janata Party in Rajnandgaon district was shot dead. Police say over 1,500 people have been killed in the state in Maoist violence since Chhattisgarh was carved out of Madhya Pradesh in November 2000. ]
Dear All,
I like the writing style it really seems like a Hollywood war movie
Army LK says
All Troops Poised to Finally Clear ‘New Safety Zone’
MULLAITTIVU: INFANTRY troops of the 53, 58 and 59 Divisions, now actively involved in the final phase of the rescue operation during the wee hours on Tuesday (12) closed in on the boundaries at the “New Safety Zone”.
After risky night movements, the 58 Division troops hugged the northern boundary of the “New Safety Zone” (NSZ) following intense overnight fighting which, saw Tiger terrorists fall one by one, unable to face small arms fire of the troops.
As the first light struck, troops collected twenty five dead Tigers, twenty T-56 weapons, one LMG (Light Machine Gun) and one I-com radio set from the area where pitched battles took place.
Meanwhile, 59 Division troops broke off their positions and crossed the NANTHI KADAL lagoon and advanced nearly 300 metres towards the southern end of the “New Safety Zone” to link with 53 Division troops, remained deployed along the western boundary of the “New Safety Zone”.
The 59 Division troops formed an extended defence line around the southern end of the “New Safety Zone” covering the entire NANTHI KADAL lagoon and the surrounding sea beach.
Fighting still rages on in the area.
“HRW's researchers depends on contributions for their salaries. So they must create controversy and shocking news in order to get visitors to their website. So they are just like many newspaper who often prefers sensationalistic stories to the truth. Not that they will make obvious lies themselves. They will just gladly quote the most shocking falsehoods LTTE (and their proxies in the territory LTTE control) spit out.”
>If HRW reported lie/falsehoods as a habit (just to gain hits on their webpage!), they would have lost all their credibility by now. Why do you think they haven’t? Is there a big worldwide conspiracy to keep HRW afloat? You sound like a conspiracy theorist. What’s your evidence that the HRW is basing their evidence on LTTE proxies?
>>Hits on their webpage gives contributions which pays their salaries. No more a conspiracy than newspapers preferring sensationalist stories. HRW does not have a lot of credibility. For example, most of their Middle East coverage is regarding Israel, ignoring the many worse other arabic dictatorships, since they know that Israel-bashing is popular among the far left. HRW quotes persons from LTTE controlled territory who obviously would not be allowed on a phone if they criticized the LTTE.
“This number comes from the LTTE and their proxies.”
>Actually, it comes from the UN. Is the UN on the payroll of the LTTE now? If so, why did they actually not release the report publicly? Why was it leaked to the media?
>>Comes from unpublished UN reports quoting persons from LTTE controlled territory. Not official reports since the source is so unreliable.
“A democratically elected politician not directing military matters is not a military target. Of course, the LTTE usually directly bomb civilians without any pretense of a military target.”
>So if the LTTE blew up, say, Sarath Fonseka in a crowded theatre, that would be legitimate in your eyes? That’s no different from the SLA attacking non-firing LTTE vehicles without regard for civilians in the vicinity.
>As for bombing civilians without any pretence of a target, the SLA has become pretty adept at that, too, though they seem to have acquired a preference for civilians in hospitals. But of course you will just call that LTTE propaganda.
>>SF is certainly a military target. So is LTTE military vehicles (firing at the moment or not). Regarding how much collateral damage is acceptable depends on the value of the military target. Yes, claims that the army are attacking civilians without a military target is LTTE propaganda.
"The East do not have, or very little, forced conscription, child soldiers, and ethnic cleansing. It does have almost all IDPS resettled, no large scale war, very strong economic growth, and rising living standards."
>http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/asia/090430/eastern-province-offers-glimpse-post-war-sri-lanka
>>Let us for the assume that you are correct. There are just as little political rights now as under the LTTE. (despite LTTE allowing zero freedom of expression or any opposing voices while now there are many parties). Regardless, you ignored my point. The East do not have, or very little, forced conscription, child soldiers, ethnic cleansing, and no large scale war. It does have almost all IDPS resettled, very strong economic growth, and rising living standards.
What has the "Sole representative" given the tamils? 30 years of war, misery, and declining living standards. Yes, maybe some "pride" to the tamils living abroad who thinks that the war is a sports event. Oh, yes, VP and friends become enormously rich (and fat). Well, now the war is almost over and the tamils in the country can now start improving their lives instead of VPs life.
Ananda,
So your obsession with insurgency in India continues.
What I dont understand is,what you actually try to convey by these copy-pasted articles?
"..Indian said...
Ananda,
So your obsession with insurgency in India continues.
What I dont understand is,what you actually try to convey by these copy-pasted articles?..."
Just to irritate and frustrtae morons like you who waste time blogging in a Sri Lankan blog which meant to discuss matters related to SL defence.
Else he does not have any intention to cut and paste things of people who some of still dont know how to use a toilet ):
Kollane,
Ara chandeta podi sahayogayak awashshyai.
Me dan eka panahata panaha wela. Thava kawuruhari udawwata innavanam hondai. Kochchara ebuwath ethanamai. Obana eka nawathuwama adu wenawa.
I think its high time we get prepared to face India Militarily as well.
Cos we can trust people like Manamohan Sing; more gentlemen & mature leaders but what if one day a Tamilnadu joker becomes the PM.
Then we should have an option to control them; even becoming a nuclear power; cos definetly China , Russia & Iran would help us to be stronger......
See...Israel is NOT at all scared becos US backs them Militarily.
We need a partner like that; can't trust Indians (I mean Tamil Nadu Indians)
Treasonous Reasoning;
Buddy you deserve a long long response.
If HRW reported lie/falsehoods as a habit (just to gain hits on their webpage!), they would have lost all their credibility by now. Why do you think they haven’t? Is there a big worldwide conspiracy to keep HRW afloat? You sound like a conspiracy theorist. What’s your evidence that the HRW is basing their evidence on LTTE proxies?
There are few reasons why some INGOs have behaved disgracefully and distrustfully.
1. Strong influence of diaspora into its higher ranks
2. Ground information collected by pro-pussycat or genuinely pussycat individuals
3. Local NGO heads following ideologies like socialism and separatism hence working towards their personal goals.
4. Pro-Christian tendency in pussycats, and organizations like HRW are mostly supporting pro-Christian movements either intentionally or otherwise.
5. Influence, support, obligation, faith and collaboration of some foreign diplomats like Robert Blake, Miliband or Kouchner. These individuals seem to have a personal agenda on SL, or world in general.
6. Anger against the stubborn GOSL and the decision made to kick them out of warzone.
7. Internal corruptions – as you have seen by now, there had never been a development project happening there and one would wonder what they did with all the money. Many NGOs are run on a commission or share that they make out of conflict/charity. This kind of corruption is found often with big-named UN organizations as well.
8. Theoretically believing that they are agents of peace and they would think they can bring any two parties to negotiate. So theoretically believing that a ceasefire is ALWAYS the solution. This is another ideological loophole.
For your record, this is not the only occasion that organizations like HRW have been found biased, religiously stereo-typing, fake-reporting, corrupted and influenced. Have a look at other places. Like Darfur, Uganda, Iraq, Afganistan, Russia. If you open your eyes you will see that HRW and their counter parts are on a role of picking one side and religiously supporting that. And in return some of their personal making hefty corrupted sums of money.
Actually, it comes from the UN. Is the UN on the payroll of the LTTE now? If so, why did they actually not release the report publicly? Why was it leaked to the media?
It is NOT UN as an organization, but some individuals who work for them. I believe UN has complains piled up to moon about corrupted officials. For an example Oil-for-money, Uganda etc. These hawks exploit regions out of world focus like, once dark-shaded eelam [which will be no more in few days].
So if the LTTE blew up, say, Sarath Fonseka in a crowded theatre, that would be legitimate in your eyes? That’s no different from the SLA attacking non-firing LTTE vehicles without regard for civilians in the vicinity.
I do not think that your argument is correct. It seems that you are comparing an accidental crossfire with a deliberate bombing of a target. A cross fire can occur when two parties are in war and some unfortunate non-combatants get caught in the middle, where neither party is unable to rescue them or unaware of their presence. The bombing which you mentioned here is a deliberate act of killing, of civilians and of a military figure. Nobody has right to conduct such acts. You seem to believe that tactics of as terror movement are legitimate acts, which is grossly wrong.
If SLDF is deliberately pointing their guns at civilians and killing them like Pussycats do, yes that is a crime. But we all know that they do not.
As for bombing civilians without any pretence of a target, the SLA has become pretty adept at that, too, though they seem to have acquired a preference for civilians in hospitals. But of course you will just call that LTTE propaganda.
Here you are treasonous indeed. You already seem to believe that SLA is killing and shelling civilians. It is wrong. Most civilian deaths have occurred in the no man’s land when they run for safety in SLA. It is beyond my belief that SLA would shell the ppl who move to them. And it is obvious however that other party, the pussycats, need to avoid the hostages from getting away. So it is beyond doubt that LTTE is shelling fleeing civilians.
Basing it on your own logic, the UN Secretary General issued notice criticizing pussycats on civilian loss, not SLA. Do you think they’d do so, if there is any evidence towards SLA killing civilians deliberately?
Here is another one for you. There is this Pussycat factory where they produce claymore bombs. SLAF has to bomb it for the safety of nation. And pussycats have chained some innocent non-combatants and enslave some other civilians. Who is the culprit? When they positions heavy arti guns in a small hut full of kids, and SLA was unaware of their presence why would you claim that SLA is the culprit? It is pussycats who articulate civilian deaths in this manner who conduct the crime. Not a single civilian is willingly accompanying them.
Also some other so called “civilians” are forced soldiers. So what else can SLA do other than killing them, unless they surrender?
“Many residents of the Eastern Province would not recognize this description of their homeland.
This is indeed what it should be. There is no bloody mythical “homeland” or a homeland in SL. Nowhere in the world that they decide a piece of land belongs to some race, even if they were the first inhabitants. In the case of SL, every archeological evidence suggests that it was definitely not Tamils. Tamils came from elsewhere after others. You are free to disprove this archeologically, and I challenge you. Human history is not fiction written, but proven with evidence.
BTW, those eastern people will jollywell live inside one unified SL. They want their lives back. Not the bloody homoland. Cut the crap mate.
Their daily lives remain wracked with fears of violence, abductions, rape, illegal taxation and ongoing oppression by government security forces and government-supported paramilitary groups, such as the Tamil Makkal Viduthalai Pulikal (TMVP).
“This is almost worse than before,” said one resident of Trincomalee, referring to the period until mid-2007 when the East was under the control of the LTTE. “We are not living, we are still surviving. We know anytime, anything can happen to us.”
This is the nasty child of the pussycat mania. Blame tamil diaspora for making tamils into blood thirsty savages, from the well educated peace loving people. Today tamils know only to kill. Thank GOSL for bringing some civilization for them.
Nevertheless, TMVP does not put half of population under barbed wire and steal their children for making soldiers and suicide cadres. So East is getting better. Give it more time. The mess was too much. When sanity prevails, and lives prosper, clarity and peace will arrive. It is not an overnight on/off switch.
Again, if you’re a diaspora pussycat fundraiser, knock your head on a wall for the crime you did for tamils in SL. They’ve forced into savage creatures knowing only the jungle law.
“The government is not in control of law and order here. The LTTE system still operates, whether it’s now TMVP, Karuna, or whatever. The same old guy who collected taxes for the LTTE now collects money for TMVP. We are bleeding to death. The economy is bleeding to death”“We were complaining in those days that we had to pay taxes but in retrospect it was better than this,” said one man in his 20s who lives in Batticaloa district. “Before when we paid taxes at least we had the satisfaction that it was for our protection [by the LTTE].”
Which moon of Jupiter are you living Mr? Most of you who live out of SL think that you understand SL affairs perfectly when you call your old grandma via a net-to-phone call-parlour and listen to her mumbling for some counted 30 minutes. Sorry. Wake up. Govt is in perfect control of east. If there is terrorism raising its head, they will be killed. I repeat. They will be killed Have my word for that.
And we know that after fatpig BBQ, there will be terrorists here and there on hit and run. SLA can manage them, don’t worry. There is a saying “Kanda gilla ekaata Aggalaavath kajjakda?” Sorry I don’t get a better match in English. But is simply says that an Army like SLA can decimate these pockets of violence in no time.
Forget East, in case you’re an Eelam supporter. Well forget whole SL. Maybe, in Toronto, Melbourtne or Tamilnadu, one day you’d attain the homoland.
dA&DW
Excellent post. Why not consider publishing this to a bigger audience in North America or Europe.
Readers:
Don't click on news items on the web now. It seems some people are clicking on them to keep them as headlines for the longest time.
Single,
Spending time in this blog is to know if the common enemy is done and dusted with.I dont understand how one would get frustrated by seeing those articles posted by Ananda.
I prefer ignoring that toilet comment though
CNN poll is no longer active.. cannot view the results nor do anything with it..
Hey fat monkey!
Over here fat monkey!
Come out of the hole fat monkey!
Here's a banana for you!
Kaboom!
Cheers!
If any observer of Tamilnet have an ounce of brain, he/she would realize that how come the Army targets only Hospitals?
Isn't it clear that when you say a Hospital, Children's home, Elderly Care Place etc, it adds weight to any news.
Same thing happening. LTTE shells their own make-shift hospitals for Photo and PR opportunities, and asks someone to contact Media. They make sure the person who contacts media identify him/herself as a Doctor, Aid Worker, or a Member of Religious Order in order to add more credibility to the created news.
They call the so called person a "Government" Doctor to add more weight than saying a Doctor.
AFP, AP, BBC, CNN, HRW, UN, ICRC all take the word of that so called Doctor as gospel. Even clearly knowing that there is no way to determine where a shell is originating from, still these agencies still blame the GOSL. Isn't that funny (just because the Doctor said so)?
Even if that so called Doctor knew it was the LTTE who was firing, would she/he ever call the media and tell the truth, when she/he has to use the LTTE Satellite Phone to contact the outside world?
If that person uttered a single world against LTTE that person would be dead meat inside his hut in no time.
That's the impartiality of information coming from the so called Doctor.
I know the real name of that Doctor. His name is Lawrence Christie.
Lawrence Christie, former TRO Project Director, now the Chief Spin Master of LTTE, spinning news and carrying out crime against his own people i.e. ordering killings to suit his news agenda
http://www.outlookindia.com/rants.asp?date=05/04/2009&type=normal&pn=4
I want him live too
http://www.tamilnation.org/images/ltte/christie.JPG
The CNN web site and the TV are now conducting a vote on , "Should the
International Community intervene in Sri Lanka”? Pl click the link below
and say no.
http://internationaldesk.blogs.cnn.com/category/i-desk-poll/
"..Indian said...
Spending time in this blog is to know if the common enemy is done and dusted with.."
For India LTTE is not an Enemy..it is an Tool. Sometimes they used that tool to screw the SL and now they getting them sleves screwed.
LTTE is our enemey and when war is over...becomes our best friend (to use against India)
Velu is not the important one, not even pottu Amman....here is the fucker we need to take...Kumaran Pathmanadanwe must come up with a plan...this MF has lots of muula=$ - whoever get him 1st gets lots of $$$
ps. I am not saying velu and other are not important. take them all.
Follow the progress of the 59th Division and Prasanna de Silva at this link.
Feel free to leave your thoughts and wishes for Prasanna as he will be reading them possibly replying you as well.
http://prasannadesilva.com
As someone suggested Sri Lanka should get some nuclear capability
-to counteract crazy tamilnadu actvist.
Any nuclear experts can help?
Hi All, Visit below TamilNet link and carefuly study the photo.
http://www.tamilnet.com/pic.html?path=/img/publish/2009/05/12_05_09_hosp_attack_02.jpg&width=1024&height=768&caption=Mu'l'li-vaaykkaal%20makeshift%20hospital%20photographed%20after%20SLA%20artillery%20firing%20on%20Tuesday
LTTE claimed that which was taken just after the SLA shelling today morning. Looking at the damages to those bodies, no shelling damages. I feel that they are just acting as dead bodies to the picture....
Another one is PRADO intrcoolar vehicle near the bodies without any damage?
Follow the progress of the 59th Division and Prasanna de Silva at this link.
Feel free to leave your thoughts and wishes for Prasanna as he will be reading them possibly replying you as well.
www.prasanndesilva.com
Tell all of your friends to vote NOP on CNN Poll.
http://internationaldesk.blogs.cnn.com/category/i-desk-poll/
කට්ටිය
තඩි ඌරාට හෙලිකොප්ටර් එකකුයි, සීලින් 143 එකකුයි NFZ එකේ හංගලා තියෙනවා කියල කථාවක් තියෙනවනෙ.. අපි හැමෝම හිතන් ඉන්නෙ මේ ඌරා මුහුද උඩින් වෙන රටකට හරි අන්තර්ජාතික මුහුදු සීමාවේ තියෙන තෙල් නැවක ඩෙක් එකට හරි යාවි කියලනෙ. මට හිතෙනවා සමහර වෙලාවට මූ ලංකාව ඇතුලට යයිද කියාලත්. මොකක් හරි diversion එකෙක් ඇති කරලා වෙන පැත්තකින් මේකා take-off කලොත්. රට ඇතුලෙ ප්ලේන් එකක් ලෑන්ඩ් කරන්න ඕනි තරම් තැන් තියෙනවනෙ.
මට නිකමට හිතුනා වියළී ගිය ගංගා පතුලක්,
පිටවල පතන වගේ තැනි තලාවක්. මුගේ චොපර් එක බාන්න නියමයි නෙ.
කට්ටියම විමසිලිමත්ව හිටියොත් හොඳයි නේද. අනික දියඹට යන අපේ ට්රෝලර් ටිකත් දැනුවත් කරල තියන්න ඕනි අමුතු යාත්රා (බෝට්ටු ) ගැන. ට්රෝලර් ටිකත් නේවි එකෙන් දුටු තැන ස්පොට් චෙක් කලානම් හොදයි.
CNN poll IS still active guys...
SL dropping again...
keep at it, we need more votes
Guys,
Use the Google Chrome Web Browser and switch to the Incognito mode and vote...close the the browser and keep repeating. You can go on forever.
Asanka you are write.
they are actors. just look at legs. all are FULLY extended. all are resting.
TELL ABOUT THIS FOTO TO ALL...
THANKS
Gents and Patriots,
Please don't insult our fellow blogger Indian who is here to learn more about Sri Lanka's LTTE problem. Indian also provides a different and valuable perspective to us.
By the same token, our Indian friend needs to understand that Sri Lanka's LTTE problem cannot be viewed in isolation without looking at India's numerous counter insurgencies. Ananda-USA is perfectly right to highlight India's Maoist problem in this forum.
It is no accident that Maoists, Naxalites, and ULFA terrorists in India have seen a progressive increase in technology and sophistication in their conduct. There have been numerous and credible reports that the LTTE, which is the most sophisticated in the world this area, has outsourced its expertise to these organizations.
The measures India takes to deal with its domestic terrorists and the standards of conduct that India demands of its neighbors is obviously of interest to people in Sri Lanka. As the saying goes "What's good for the goose is good for the gander."
As we get ready to celebrate a great victory in Sri Lanka, my appeal to you gents is to keep the dialogue civil. It is not a celebration for Sinhala Buddhists only. It is a great national victory for the Sri Lanka nation. Also, it is a triuph of a democratic nation against terrorists. We will celebrate and many in the world will celebrate with us too.
anyone has inside info as to how the 59 Div with the leadership of Bgd. Prasanna Silva managed to cross the lagoon?
May be made use of the 'Combat Divers' of the SF or may be....... can someone give the details asap before go crazy!
Might be just as thrilling as how he crossed Chalai, with all that MBRL direct firing ;-)
Aw, now that VP has Prasanna Silva at sniffing distance, all the other divisions can move in to save the tamil hostages, while PS goes for the final kill...
So far, ltte have not been successful in causing any damage to PS's divisions... what can they do at this stage???
Btw, pro ltte tamil diasspora,
how does it feel to see all the expensive AA Guns captured by the SL Army????
Bloody lunatics!
Tell the modaya Army not to Shell the Hospital again. .
Patriots:
Please visit this site which was launched by a political action group committed to the mother land. Useful info and links. We all can take actions. Use the "take action" link.
http://www.wearesrilankans.com/
LTTE is a terrorist outfit which has its name under the UN list of shame for using child soldiers in Sri Lanka for terrorist attacks for years.
Tamils in Canada use Child protesters on Canadian Highways risking their lives.
Both appears equally murderous. Couldn't the recent act of some Tamils in Canada be taken up with UNICEF? Can a legitimate government allow abusing children like this in their country...???
Media message: when the government responds to LTTE reports, it should use the word "reject" instead of "deny". Gives a more forcefully message across.
Government explanation for why Channel 4 was deported.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pE86JzaX0zM
My comment:
Channel 4 didn't film nor did the report themselves, but got it from a 3rd party. Nick Walsh even admits this on his blog that someone else generated the report. They just did what some international media does but from abroad, tap into LTTE propaganda. This is a really good example for all the foreign media crying out loud for free access. Even with access this is what Channel 4 did, just pushed a fabricated video by a 3rd party. Shame on Channel 4 and all the lazy British paper pushing media!
I saw an article about special unit to monitor Foreigners.
Could some one please suggest creating a website for NGO, and Journalist who come to Sri Lanka. We should ask them to up load information regarding them. For NGOs we can ask to put their resumes and their local workers information and resumes. This way every one have an Idea who is doing what. At the same time if we know something about them, we would be able to inform the government.
Same thing should be done to the Journalist. We should tell them to provide all the information prior to arriving in Sri Lanka.
As an example, which channel they work for, the work they have been doing etc. etc. This way patriots can inform the government if we think they are bad apples.
Could some one please look in to the possibility of doing something like this? This shouldn't be a hard thing to do as we only need a simple web application.
This will save the government lot of time trying to investigate these people by themselves.
Also we must force NGOs to hire Sri Lankans and not just Tamils.
now you all see,that Mahen is a big liar and lankan national traitor. Today the 59th crossed the Vadduvakal-bridge,not two weeks ago as claimed by Mahen.
http://www.itn.lk/news_02_20090512.html
The end game has begun,three hours ago our troops have entered the villages of Karayamullivaikal and Vellamullivaikal. This was told to me by my friend in Mannar-army base via handy.End of the coventional war expected in the next 72 hours
We are not allowed to use that much of nuclear power or weapons Land area is too much small for that type of activities. and also risky for citizens
SL MONKEY,
You are not going to get anything here by BS.
Marching legion closing in
Hay stack open looking for the pin
Runaway dreams? No! No way !!
'tis Judgement Day and YOU've gotta pay
Asanka is right, Visit below TamilNet link and carefuly study the photo.
In 11th photo, person in the middle( next to standing person,blue sarong,white shirt)) is getting up in the 12th photo
http://www.tamilnet.com/pic.html?path=/img/publish/2009/05/12_05_09_mulli_hospitol_07.jpg&width=1024&height=768&caption=
http://www.tamilnet.com/pic.html?path=/img/publish/2009/05/12_05_09_mulli_hospitol_06.jpg&width=1024&height=768&caption=Shell%20attack%20in%20front%20of%20the%20hospital%20admission%20ward
May 12, 2009 11:30 PM
SL MONKEY,
Your monkey dance is not good enough to hide the stripes. You are nothing more than a terrorist. Please spend your remaining days wisely.
you guys know where the Peter pan has gone ...
uuu nathuwa blog eka puduma paalui ...
Indian said...
Ananda,
So your obsession with insurgency in India continues.
What I dont understand is,what you actually try to convey by these copy-pasted articles?
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First, I think it is a good thing to understand what is exactly going in India, as SL and India are very much connected. We need to be aware of the thinking of India and its future strategy that might affect Sri Lanka.
Secondly, once in a while Ananda tries to show the hypocracy of behaviour of India (Advising us to do one things and doing another thing themselves).
Any ways hats off to all the Indian News Papers for not swallowing what Tamil Net is saying. They have given only very limited publicity to the alleged weekend killings.
Media Accuracy
When Dublin university student Shane Fitzgerald posted a poetic but phony quote on Wikipedia, he was testing how our globalized, increasingly Internet-dependent media was upholding accuracy and accountability in an age of instant news.
His report card: Wikipedia passed. Journalism flunked.
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Irish-student-hoaxes-worlds-apf-15201451.html?.v=1
If a shell exploded blowing off all the limbs of a person, at least fragile matter within 20 ft should have significant damage.
The Blue Tarpaulin shows very limited damage to my amusement. The Blue Tarpaulin is much closer to the impact on ground than the person whose limbs blown to pieces.
I am puzzled! Looks like things have been staged here!
Podi Lamai,
Ara CNN poll sellama nawathuwada?
Eka than 52/48 walata apita viruddhawa gihilla.
Mage atha tikkak ridenawa 30 paharak chande thala...habai eka point ekak wath ape patthata wadi wune naha.
Eka hinda, me anith sahodarayo tikath ae sellamata ekathuweena!
Me wage sellamabadu hamadama nikan hambuwenne nane!
Ah, cookies withrai nathi karala, browser eka nawathanda ona apahu chande thanda. :)
http://internationaldesk.blogs.cnn.com/
Indian said...
[ Ananda,
So your obsession with insurgency in India continues.
What I dont understand is,what you actually try to convey by these copy-pasted articles? ]
My Dear Indian,
Looks like you and I are back to square one.
It is very likely that my postings are wasted on you, because you seem to be one of the many hundreds of millions of our cousins in India who are rational humans well disposed towards ALL SRI LANKANS...both Sinhalese...of whom I am a typical albeit irritating specimen...and our inestimable Sri Lankan Tamil brothers.
However, there are also reams of jaundiced Indian citizens, primarily residing deep within Tamil Nadu, who are pointing at Sri Lanka as a place beset with discrimination and terrorism, on which they are qualified to do radical surgery. They have various bitter political prescriptions, like dismembering our country, or forcing a federal system down the narrow passages of our collective Sri Lankan throat, for the problems that India largely inflicted upon us, and for solving local political electoral issues in India. WE DON'T LIKE IT.
So, in a very small way, I am setting about DISABUSING these of our Indian relatives of the notion that they are IN ANY WAY QUALIFIED to preach to us, and that they should attend to their own very large problems orders of magnitude larger than our own, instead of trying to slice and dice Sri Lanka into a casesar salad. Since they seem oblivious to the fires raging in their own backyard, or the very high potential that their medicines are beginning to poison them too, I am....with great kindness I must admit.... diligently working on bringing it to their drifting attention. Perhaps, they can even learn from our misery in Sri Lanka what works and what does not, and DOUSE THOSE FIRES before they are BEYOND CONTROL.
The second objective of my postings, is to make my brother Patriots aware of these events in India so that they have the information necessary to understand what drives Indian politics, and what levers exist within India that can be used for us to collectively PUSH BACK against political moves originating in India adverse to Sri Lanka.
I am a great believer in the approach adopted by many great religious teachers, such as the Lord Buddha and Jesus Christ, of gettting the aggressor I want to dissuade to wear the shoes of the victim.
So, when Tamil Nadu residents advocate partitioning Sri Lanka, I come up with equally gut-wrenching proposals to partition Tamil Nadu. When the Indian Govt advocates autonomy for the Tamils of Sri Lanka, I advocate the same for the long-suffering majority Muslim people of Jammu & Kashmir. When Indians advocate kindness and compassion for the LTTE murderers, I advocate the same for the MUMBAI terrorists.
Believe it or not, this very soon gets the attention of the Indian Govt and the Indian people, and they quickly stop advocating radical mastectomies for Sri Lanka. If a critical mass of my Patriots begin to see what can be done to PUSH BACK against the forces arrayed against us, I will have done my job and can return to my game of marbles.
I think I can speak on behalf of most Sri Lankans, that we LOVE INDIA as the fount of our heritage, our peoples, our languages, our religions, our cultures; nay even the way we think is Indian. We can no more DISOWN INDIA than we can disown our PARENTS. However, when the parent becomes myopic and intoxicated, it is the right, nay the DUTY, of the child to provide corrective glasses and take the bottle away. That is the situation in which we, the people of Lanka, find ourselves in.
I acknowledge that INDIA has paid a constructive role, in the current phase of the Eelam conflict. But, MUCH MORE needs to be done to EDUCATE the Indian body politic of the VALUE OF NON-INTERFERENCE in the Sri Lanka, and that a UNDIVIDED Sri Lanka, and its majority Sinhala population, is the BEST ALLY THAT THE INDIAN NATION HAS in the ENTIRE South Asian Region.
looking at ground realities one can never deny that civillian lives are lost in this brutal war. either at the hands of the LTTE or at the hands of the Sri Lankan Army, LTTE are the worst terrorist the world has ever known. i have personally witnessed a major bomb blast in colombo and was few seconds walk away from death due to that terror attack. the broken bodies of children and adults alike have left a lasting impression on me. most of us who comment here do not really see the war first hand. i'm a citizen of colombo. so i have seen a glimpse of it and had enough. even a single civillian life taken can never be put back in place. defeating the LTTE is a must. but taking care of civillians is even a greater must. because all these people have seen and known is war war and war for the last 30 years. i hope that the SLA would do a better job in saving the civillians than killing the terrorists.
CNN Poll:
Should The International Community Intervene In Sri Lanka?
Yes: 77
No: 23
How this sudden change happened ?
:(
Warella Kollane... Ekathuwela Meka Anik Paththa Peralamu...
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