We have received credible information on the arrest of two individuals, one a middle aged man traveling on a non-Sri Lankan passport at an undisclosed location in Bangkok in a joint stint launched by Thai and Sri Lankan authorities. The travel documents and said identity confirms with an alias of LTTE operative Shanmugam Kumaran Tharmalingham.
The man was carrying travel documents both under his own birth name and under other aliases at the time of arrest. A group of Sri Lankan officials is expected to fly the said two individuals to Sri Lanka shortly. Please await further information as it is made available.
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«Oldest ‹Older 4401 – 4538 of 4538Paanhinga,
Paanhinga kora gahagena hemihita yanne
Wesaballa sakkiliyath passen enne
Unge wesa ammandila ganikaawunne
Nesunu daata rata deyatama weda siduwanne.
Paanhinga,
Inda kaapan mage paan gediya.
Yako tho kanne mage pai gediyane. Thoge ammage, nangige, genige, duwage puruddama thamai, perethaya.
Gents,
The Great Maaveerar Dhinam is less than a month away, as we are nearing this holiest of holy days, we request our Eelam brothers and sisters to keep looking out for notices ceremonial events and attend these in large numbers and contribute generously. Non Republic of Eelam citizens are welcome to attend too to express solidarity with our liberation struggle.
Please remember our brethren in your daily prayers and light a candle of sacrifice for our fallen cadres, may they attain eternal glory.
Selva,
Can you name the persons in the foto.
Folks;
Maha Booru Day is coming in one month. We are going to miss the greatest fun we had for years, so maybe we shud make such out of it on ourselves.
I'm herewith starting a discussion on the following.
What will Maha Booru Day mean to tamil diaspora in 20 yeras?
Let me give some choices, which you can improve.
1. A day of religious value
2. A day of empty promises
3. A day of political mileage among community [like Mayday is misued by SL politicians]
4. A day of outing
5. A day of dating [like valentine's day]
6. A day of imagining and fairy tale [of revenge, eelam etc]
7. A celebration day for unknown reason
8. Just another day
Now the kinda fools they are they will remember Nov 26th quite longer than May19th whereas teh latter mean more than prior to them. Latter is teh day they found life on ground reality, not the seventh heaven imagination.
Selva said,
"The Great Maaveerar Dhinam is less than a month away, ..."
Time for a global crack down on the remnant LTTE terrorists!
November 26 will always be a holy day for us, it is the day we remember the deaths of 70,000+ Eelam brethren and 300,000+ Eelam citizens held in internment camps. Hitherto inactive Eelam websites such as Puthinam are being redesigned with new ownership and under new leadership, we have got rid of the traitors who used our struggle for monetary gains.
Selva said,
"November 26 will always be a holy day for us,.."
You mean a "holey" day don't you? The Sri Lankan Security Forces made holes in your invincible thalaivar.
Mr Thambala Sir,
Your bad taste jokes and unruly remarks are not going to deter our liberation struggle, Eelam citizens residing in occuped Republic of Tamil Eelam provinces such as Puthumalan and Akkaraipattu will join in the ceremonies in large numbers and close their businesses as a mark of respect.
Mr. Selva Sir,
Sorry you didn't enjoy the joke..
Selava said,
"deter our liberation struggle, "
You have recieved the best liberation.. from the LTTE..
Selva said,
"Puthumalan and Akkaraipattu... "
You mean Aluthmassala and Akkara Paththuwa?
Selva said,
"and close their businesses as a mark of respect."
We'll get some to check on that right away!
Mr. Selva Sir,
How about some bombs? Are you oragnizing any bombs for the Maraweera Dinam?
Your leader wouldn't approve of his birthday celebrations without his favourite fireworks.
Selva, Terrorist Sir,
Should require any suicide jackets for ceremonies , MOD will be able to supply them in large numbers. I might be that MOD has no place to put all these retrieved..
Guys, I am making a list.
TRAITOROUS ACTS TOWARDS SRI LANKA BY RANIL WICKRAMASINGHE AND UNP
(starting from the most recent)
1. Pushing EU countries to stop Sri Lanka receiving GSP+.
2. Using Kulasiri Udugampola sakalakiliya to expose our LRRP/DPU guys letting LTTE kill them.
can you help me compile this list?
Our fighters have never intentionally targeted civilian structures or intentionally harmed any civilians, in the Republic of Tamil Eelam constituition, Human Rights are gauranteed to all irrespective of ethnicity, colour, race, creed, religion, or sexuality, that includes the right to life. Our Great Leader ensured that Humans Rights are constitutionally protected, safegaurded and upheld. Do you see any Republic of Tamil Eelam Ministers being scrutinised for war crimes?
Selva,
Its not the normal practice that dead people are investigated. Its not practical.
Selva the Mr. De Silva Sir,
Do you get a ticklish in your lingam these days by white girls to write these crap?
No longer you can misguide the innoncent Tamils.
Hik.. hik...
Any news regarding SF?
Heih Selva the mother F**ker,
You said your great leader is a protector of human rights irrespective to colour, race creed… bla bla and bla.
Well, I thought few months ago, I will never post anything on this damn blog again, well you somehow managed to excite me enough to burn with fever to reply again once more.
Your leader; f***ing piranha Velupakka Prapbhakaran has violated all known human rights to the hilt during last 30 years. However you were so dared to come here and declare that filthy inhuman bastard is a protector of human rights. By doing so; you make me laugh to eternity and beyond.
Any way dear Selva,
I think, when you mean human rights,: you mean rights of dirty Tamils who are racists from head go toe!
To claim human rights, they have to be human first, if they are sub human. They do not qualify.
However, your supreme commander Velupille Prabhakaran or Thaleiver is not a human, he was a human flesh eating monster.
So, don’t try dirty tricks again.
Pansilu Sir,
Our great leader was the most misunderstood person in Ceylon, he was a kind, gentle, genial man, not the monster you make him out to be. In any case, the UNP is in talks with the Eelam leadership through Norway to form a grand coalition and return Ceylon back to democracy.
Guys, I am making a list.
TRAITOROUS ACTS TOWARDS SRI LANKA BY RANIL WICKRAMASINGHE AND UNP
(starting from the most recent)
1. Pushing EU countries to stop Sri Lanka receiving GSP+.
2. Using Kulasiri Udugampola sakalakiliya to expose our LRRP/DPU guys letting LTTE kill them.
Please help to compile this list..
thambala,
3. singed the CFA accepting the presence of de facto tamil elam state
4. entered into CFA in feb 2002 at a time when the whole world was going to war on terror. had we gone for war, we could have finished the tigers without much nuisense.
5. ridiculed SLDF victory in the East calling it a jungle.
6. appointed a maniac as the defence minister in 2001 - marapana and another manac - autism fernando as the defence secretary.
7. disregarded hundreds of ceasefire violations in favour of tigers
8. allow millions of dollars worth communications equipment to LTTE in 2003
9. transported ZLIN planes using SLAF Mi-17 heicopters free of charge
10. publicly promised to hand over the north and east to tigers in 1999 and did it in 2002.
11. avoided voting for the emergency even when the war was at its most crucial stage.
12. provided reuge to terrorists like mano gona-sung, jeyalath jeyawardana
13. exposed lucky algama to fatal risk and got him killed.
14. avoided going to the opening of the NCP UNP main office. exposed janaka perera to terrorist attack risk after the election and got him killed.
15. never condemned the LTTE for killing kadirgamar, jeyaraj, thiruchelvam or anyone
16. humiliated SF and other top officers by forcing them to consider troop withdrawel from HSZs. it is like asking someone to design his own grave for untimely death.
17. never co-operated with the government or SLDFs in winning the war.
18. met charles gnanakone and plotted the killing of kadirgamar
19. fooled some dumb sinhala ppl that LTTE would boycot the 1999 and 2005 presidential elections and secretly got LTTE support.
here is proof
wooah!
Guys, I am making a list.
Please help to compile this list..
TRAITOROUS ACTS TOWARDS SRI LANKA BY RANIL WICKRAMASINGHE AND UNP
(starting from the most recent)
1. Pushing EU countries to stop Sri Lanka receiving GSP+.
2. Using Kulasiri Udugampola sakalakiliya to expose our LRRP/DPU guys letting LTTE kill them.
3. singed the CFA accepting the presence of de facto tamil elam state
4. entered into CFA in feb 2002 at a time when the whole world was going to war on terror. had we gone for war, we could have finished the tigers without much nuisense.
5. ridiculed SLDF victory in the East calling it a jungle.
6. appointed a maniac as the defence minister in 2001 - marapana and another manac - autism fernando as the defence secretary.
7. disregarded hundreds of ceasefire violations in favour of tigers
8. allow millions of dollars worth communications equipment to LTTE in 2003
9. transported ZLIN planes using SLAF Mi-17 heicopters free of charge
10. publicly promised to hand over the north and east to tigers in 1999 and did it in 2002.
11. avoided voting for the emergency even when the war was at its most crucial stage.
12. provided reuge to terrorists like mano gona-sung, jeyalath jeyawardana
13. exposed lucky algama to fatal risk and got him killed.
14. avoided going to the opening of the NCP UNP main office. exposed janaka perera to terrorist attack risk after the election and got him killed.
15. never condemned the LTTE for killing kadirgamar, jeyaraj, thiruchelvam or anyone
16. humiliated SF and other top officers by forcing them to consider troop withdrawel from HSZs. it is like asking someone to design his own grave for untimely death.
17. never co-operated with the government or SLDFs in winning the war.
18. met charles gnanakone and plotted the killing of kadirgamar
Moshe, not quite sure about point 9.
And 19.. that picture was accused to be a made up picture by the JVP at that time.. wasn't it?
General Fonseka’s entry into politics: Is it the end of democracy in Sri Lanka?
By Raj Gonsalkorale
General Sarath FonsekaI am ready to remove my uniform and work for the people to bring the country back on the right path if it continues to go on the wrong path even after defeating terrorism – General Sarath Fonseka in Washington
Many countries have had former and current military commanders taking over the reigns of power. Some have done it in democratic ways and others have not. Some countries have continued with traditions and norms of democracy after the entry of such military commanders into civilian politics, while others have not done so.
Although General Fonseka has studiously avoided any talk of entering politics from Sri Lankan soil, it appears he has not been so ambivalent from outside.
Without doubt, the talk of the town in Sri Lanka currently is the Fonseka guessing game. Will he, or wont he? Although the government is trying to project an image of indifference and going about their normal business, they are clearly concerned about a possible entry into politics by General Fonseka, and contesting the incumbent President Mahinda Rajapaksa at the next Presidential election as the common candidate of the Opposition. Few ministers, led by the trouble shooter (or plain shooter?) Mervyn Silva has already opened fire. More will follow if the guessing game gathers momentum.
General Fonseka’s entry into politics will be fraught with multiple dangers, not just for President Rajapaksa, but for the country in the longer term. This article will attempt to identify some of those dangers.
First and foremost is the danger of politicization of the military establishment in Sri Lanka.
If and when he is out of a uniform, he will not obviously have the same clout he had as the Army Commander or the Defense Chief of Staff, but he will be calling on many of his followers in the Forces, mainly the Army, to lend him political support. A section of the Army will be canvassing for him either overtly or covertly.
There will be others in the Army who will not support him in a political venture although they may have supported him in the Army. He has had his detractors within the Army itself during his tenure as the Commander, and although much respected, he was not loved by all and he did not have a fierce following that the late Major General Denzil Kobbekaduwa had amongst the rank and file of the Army.
His detractors will have no need or a desire to support a Sarath Fonseka not in uniform and leading an Army. It is also known that General Fonseka did not have a strong following within the Navy and Air Force, and within the Police.
If the Opposition cajoles General Fonseka into entering the fray as their common candidate at the next Presidential election, the incumbent President and the government will be forced to use all their powers to counter the tactics of the Opposition. This could mean using military personnel to advocate for the President or taking harsh measures against those who advocate on behalf of the Opposition, or do both.
Either way, General Fonseka’s entry into politics will lead to the inevitable politicization of the military, and open party affiliations within the military.
The last and most important bastion of impartiality will be lost to Sri Lanka.
Many in Sri Lanka may not realize the importance of this impartiality for the country as every other institution seems to be politicized today. This is where the leadership of the country, whether it political, civil or religious should act with a greater vision than what they have done so far, and try to save at least this final bastion from being used by politicians to meet their ends. Above all, the Opposition Leader Mr Ranil Wickremasinghe has to act with a greater vision at this crucial moment and safeguard this important institution rather than using it as a springboard for him to gain power.
..tbc..
..continues...
The other major danger is for democracy itself, or whatever Sri Lanka has as democracy today. In the event General Fonseka removes his uniform as he has stated, none could be blamed if they conclude that he will be what he is irrespective of the uniform; a regimental disciplinarian used to a command structure where orders are obeyed and where democracy has no place. General Fonseka does not have a political base and no party affiliations, at least, at present. If he should win a Presidential election, he could well toss aside those who put him up as a candidate and do as he wants. Where this might lead is uncertain. What is certain is that democracy itself will be tested as General Fonseka has no experience with democracy.
It is not possible to write about all the inherent dangers arising from a Fonseka candidacy in one article. However, it would be deficient on the part of any writer to overlook the impact it would have on democracy as we know it today, irrespective of whether the General wins or loses a presidential election.
The Opposition’s strategy is to field a common candidate to defeat President Rajapaksa and change the Executive Presidency within 6 months of coming to power. Should General Fonseka win the election, according to Opposition plans, he will be the Executive President only for 6 months. What would be his future thereafter? A ceremonial Presidency?
Readers should ask themselves the question whether they believe General Fonseka will remove his uniform to end up as a virtual puppet in the hands of an Executive Prime Minister, especially after having tasted power for 6 months. What would possibly be a logical option for him to retain that power when he does not have any real political power arising from a position in a political party? A military coup?
Such a possibility is not absurd or unthinkable. Although there is absolutely no evidence of any association either of General Fonseka or any other senior military officer, last Sunday’s Times newspaper reported that President Rajapaksa had requested Indian military assistance as he had information about a possible attempt to wrest power by military means. The news report went on to say that the Indian military was placed on high alert to come to the President’s assistance in case of a revolt. A heightened military presence was very visible in some parts of Colombo last week.
If such developments were thought to be possible, would it be out of place to imagine what might happen if a once powerful General, with a substantial following within the military wins power through the ballot only to find that he doesn’t have any power just six months after he has tasted that power? It’s best if readers are left to find answers to this rhetorical question.
What are the other inherent dangers of a Fonseka Presidential bid? It is the possibility of further alienation of the Tamil community from the mainstream of Sri Lanka. General Fonseka is on record, during his tenure as Army Commander, of having said Sri Lanka is a Sinhala country where other minority groups happen to live. Whatever prompted him to say it, he did say it, and he is not a person who is known to say what he does not mean.
Irrespective of what one might say about the conflict with the Tamil community, the reasons for it and how to find a way out of the conflict, anyone who says Sri Lanka is a Sinhala country and other communities are just bystanders, is not going to be very successful in bringing the Tamil community to the mainstream.
The conflict therefore is bound to exacerbate under a Fonseka candidacy considering that some Tamils consider President Rajapaksa to be a Hawk on this issue, unfairly it can be argued, leaving Tamils very little to chose from, and leading them to pursue other options which may not be very palatable to most Sri Lankans.
tbc..
cont...
Some Tamils may take the view that a known Hawk would be better than an unknown one, and either vote for President Rajapaksa, not vote at all, or field a common Tamil candidate, creating further divisions within the Sri Lankan polity, and society, with it.
Finally, what of the fall out to General Fonseka himself? A much revered and respected soldier, he will face unprecedented political attacks on his professionalism, his character and his abilities, and he will be reduced to the status of any other politician in Sri Lanka. That is the price he will have to pay if he does enter politics. Whether he will be attacked with credible material is not the issue as political dirt is rarely credible. He maybe of the opinion that he is prepared to withstand such attacks having survived worse attacks from the LTTE and nearly losing his life as a result. What he probably has underestimated is that while those attacks helped to increase his stature, political dirt could suffocate him and make him a very ordinary person.
That will be a great pity, as General Sarath Fonseka has been an outstanding military leader, and he should be remembered for what he has been and not what he is going to be if he enters the political arena.
Besides the damage to himself, he will damage the reputation of the institution he served so well as there are bound to be divisions within the Army, some supporting him and others opposing him. The country cannot afford to have a divided Army, and the Army does not deserve to get a bad reputation as much as General Fonseka does not deserve such an outcome.
The move to enlist General Fonseka as the common candidate of the Opposition is reportedly a move spearheaded by the JVP, and which has since won the support of the UNP and other affiliated political parties. It is a twist of fate that the JVP is supporting the very person they had nothing to say about when he was nearly killed by the LTTE. Obviously there is no love lost between the JVP and the General, and the only reason why the JVP thought about the General was because of his Sinhala chauvinism, a cause very much identifiable with the two tongued JVP. Although claiming to be a Marxist oriented party where such chauvinism does not have a place, the JVP has been openly chauvinistic in the pursuit of votes. This was clearly evident during the recent Southern Provincial Council election.
As the saying goes, politics makes strange bed fellows, and the UNP which has so far been the least Sinhala chauvinistic party, appears to have shed their clothes, demonstrating their naked duplicity and opportunism. It’s not worth commenting on other hangers on as they seem to be looking desperately for any kind of life raft to prevent them being politically drowned.
In advocating a common candidacy for the sole reason of defeating President Rajapaksa, and choosing an outsider with no political experience and a grounding in democracy, the Opposition, especially the Leader of the Opposition, has shown how bankrupt he is politically, and how inefficient he has been in his inability to have projected himself as that common candidate.
Whoever who opposes President Rajapaksa at the next Presidential election must oppose him on policy, results of performance and a vision for the future. Abolition of the Executive Presidency and framing of a new Constitution could certainly be one of the policy options placed before the people. Performance in each others respective roles must also be key criteria for adjudication at the next election. Besides this, and probably of equal or greater importance, should be a vision for the future. A vision for economic development, and a vision as to how all communities in the country would be assimilated towards a common cause through equality, both of opportunities and of stature, where no community is placed above others, and where merit, and law and order, becomes the glue that binds the Nation.
- Asian Tribune -
Jay,
After a long time you posted some unbiased stuff.
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Either way, General Fonseka’s entry into politics will lead to the inevitable politicization of the military, and open party affiliations within the military.
The last and most important bastion of impartiality will be lost to Sri Lanka.
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Food for thought for people who think they are doing a smart thing about supporting SF.
If SF can be President with zero Civilian administration skill, I might be the defence Minister in SL.
Before SK starts responding (Most probably think I am an MR supporter some how), let me make clear about my political affiliations. Zero, Zilch, Null.
I have never voted in SL, never plan to vote in SL. I do not know any politician in SL or connected to any politician in SL, and most probably would have never voted for left leaning person like MR.
Sirs,
There are millions of Eelam citizens worldwide, the financial might of expatriate Eelam citizens is immense, we have millions at out disposal, therefore the UNP/Eelam alliance will be able dictate terms in the Ceylonese economy no outsiders will be able to curb our influence.
Pansilu,
Please don't send me business proposals to my e-mail, we only exclusively deal with Eelam citizens and those sympathetic to our cause.
thambala,
Here we go.
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People of Sri Lanka
Plaintiff,
vs.
Ranil Wickramasinghe
Defendant.
COMPLAINT
1. Conspiracy by collaborating with white masters to overturn the democratically elected government of Sri Lanka
2. Conspiracy by collaborating with white masters to bring bogus war crime charges against the armed forces of Sri Lanka
3. Espionage by giving national security information to white masters.
4. Treason by trying to give a 1/3rd of land mass of Sri Lanka to terrorist
5. Treason by collaborating with terrorists.
6. Treason by handing over SLA LRRP and MI operatives to LTTE
7. Crimes by attempting to stall economy by choking foreign investments.
8. Crimes by threaning foreign banks to reneg from any financial agreements made by the government if he ever comes to power.
JURY DEMAND
1. Administration of traditional traitor’s punishment at a public square.
2. Life sentence with no parole.
3. Expulsion from Parliament and revocation of civil rights (a trick from the bastard JR Jayawardena)
Moshe Dyan said...
too much bullshit here.
1. if anyone wants to go to RC after grade 5, they have to pass the exam with enough marks!!
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Are you saying the greatest military mind that defeated the world's worst terrorists is too stupid to pass a grade 5 exam?
You are just as ungrateful as all of the Raja Family supporters.
Thusitha;
[[Before SK starts responding (Most probably think I am an MR supporter some how), let me make clear about my political affiliations. Zero, Zilch, Null.]]
If you care to know my stance pls refer to my prev posts about whom I think we shud vote for. In brief, I am not 100% happy with MR, but he has a sure vote of mine in whatever combination contesting for PE.
My kind request is, MR/GR/SF are not just individuals. They are heroes and they carry the ideological and inspirational crown of the war victory. We have to criticize them, but let's be generous. And let them decide their desired political futures.
I am still almost certain that Sf will not come to PE. But he may contest for GE. SF for PE is something I reject. SF for GE, in which ever party is something I support, and I may even vote for him in a GE.
Hope you're clear with my stance.
MR:
1. 13th
2. family
3. corruption
4. 110 ministers
5. reduce army size
Gen. Fonseka:
1. No 13th
2. No family rule - promote by merit
3. No corruption
4. Reduce no. of Minsiters to 30
5. Increase army by 100, 000
YES WE CAN
Fonseka 2010, Oyage oya nama wenas karanne neththe ey?? General Sarath Fonsekata apahaasa kireemata oya sahaya denawa neda? Uththara demu balanda! Oya nikan e gena wachanayakwath kiyanne neththe ey?
Fonseka 2010, Oya koheda???
Gents,
I will be travelling to London tomorrow to attend to the Heroes Days organising duties, I will be there at the Sangam from 4pm. The nearest tube station to the Sangam is East Ham, after you get out of East Ham tube carry on up the High Street till you cross Shelley Avenue, cross it and walk up the High Street, the Jewish Cemetary is on your left hand side, the Sangam is on 369 High Street just by the Cemetary, ask Gajen the doorman for Selva, he will direct you. Hope to you see you there, more than happy to listen to suggestions. Refreshments including Vadai will be served.
Me Selvata pissu thadavela!
Selva de Sewala Silva,
Why do n't you go and advertise those in one of the pro Tiger shops.
Hope you will get more than 10% of last years number.
Anee hukee...
Hik... Hik...
well, i hope profanity does not end a beautiful discussion.
there is a mile long charge sheet against the UNP. what i find mind boggling is if there are indeed genuine evidence of conspiracy on SL by individuals within the UNP, why Mahinda and his corrupt buddies not arresting any of them? if they are not been arrested, does that no imply Mahinda and the corrupt brigade is either bullshitting or he is not performing his duty in national interest?
also if Ranil is an 'enemy' why others Sajin, Karu et al still in UNP?
my take is the media that include the state news the defence news have all become trumpets of Mahinda's propaganda. this is not new but goes back to CBK time.
given that and also the fact that Ranil is an imbecile who cannot properly explain himself against the charges made is very bad for UNP.
there is a dire need to resurrect the opposition. there is a need becaue Mahinda is a showing traits of a dictator and someone who does not want to be held accountable by the public, the opposition or even the international community. this is not all a good sign for sri lanka.
the only way bring some kind of checks and balances back if there is a respectable oppostion which i hope Gen. SF be appointed AFTER LEAVING ARMY.
Panhinda - பன்ஃகின்ட said...
the only way bring some kind of checks and balances back if there is a respectable oppostion which i hope Gen. SF be appointed AFTER LEAVING ARMY.
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And what about the War Crimes wrap sheet on SF?
You have no problem about the allege genocide that took place?
If there are any war crimes charges they should be on MR becuase he was Commander in Chief. Gen. Fonseka was carrying our orders. Also we have 300, 000 Tamil speaking witnesses who will clear Gen. Fonseka of any wrong doing. And by making Gen. Fonseka president we can give him imunity. What better way to thank our national hero?
This is what a patriot wrote on Facebook
Would you rather him contest on the corrupt, bankrupt, terrorist UPFA ticket? Let him decide, why are some people seem to be so worried and pissing in their pants at the thought of SF entering politics? The governemnt and its supporters should just chill and stop sh*tting themselves at least for the moment, since SF hasn't given a definitive answer yet. Save your headaches, thuggery and terrorism for later.
Patriots it is preposterous to suggest that UNP didnt support the war. dont get confused by the Rajapaksha propaganda machine. Any campaign needs constructive criticism to succeed. During the war RW and UNP criticized the war constructively, allowing the armed forces to correct their weaknesses and be a better force fighting the LTTE. This is probably why the war was successful this time.
I challenged MD on this issue and here is the response I got and my response to his response.
Blogger Moshe Dyan said...
"During the war RW and UNP criticized the war constructively,"
why not?
e.g.
1. any ass can fight a war
2. SF is not suitable even to lead the salvation army
3. SLA says they caputured alimankada and show pix of pamankada
4. thoppigala is a jungle. there is nothing to crow about capturing a jungle
5. you can't militarily defeat the LTTE
carryon 2010. its fun.
My Response
Blogger Moshe Dyan said...
"During the war RW and UNP criticized the war constructively,"
why not?
e.g.
1. any ass can fight a war.
After this criticism by UNP, the army started deploying elite commandos not any ass, to their success.
2. SF is not suitable even to lead the salvation army.
After this criticism army devolved power to individual division heads like Gen Dias and Brig. Silva, this also resulted in success.
3. SLA says they captured alimankada and show pix of pamankada.
After this they started showing pics of the places they capture this rapidly increased the number of new recruits; another constructive criticism
4. thoppigala is a jungle. there is nothing to crow about capturing a jungle.
After this most valuable criticism army started capturing important locations like, Madu, Vedithalathive, Mallavi etc, instead of jungles. Dindt this lead to the eventual success and finally capturing the most important locations like Killinochchi and Puthukudirippu?
5. you can't militarily defeat the LTTE.
UNP never said this, this is political slander. UNP always stood behind the armed forces.
Who cares about UNP that has been finished just like LTP.
Gen. Fonseka is our future.
Patriots Dont fall trap to the fake Fonseka 2010.
Gen SF and UNP always had a plan to take the country back from LTTE. After signing the peace accord RW asked SF to take his best fighter and spy on the LTTE military installations so they could use that information in the final battle.
Then Wal Chandrika dissolved the parliment and put everything in jeopardy. MR signed a secret accord with LTTE and took GL Peries from UNP to make another political package like Chandrika. It was the relentless pursuite of war by SF that saved our country.
FONSEKA2010
Wow... everything I wondered about UNP , RW and armed forces r wrong then. Pls let me know what wonderful thing RW did by exposing LRRP. Im sure it must be exiting .
Blogger gladiator said...
FONSEKA2010
Wow... everything I wondered about UNP , RW and armed forces r wrong then.
Yes, as Mangala Samaraweera explained. RW is a strong leader its all false propaganda that he him self created, just to win elections.
thusitha,
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And what about the War Crimes wrap sheet on SF?
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its a bullshit accusation against SL by US state department (Hilary etc). the politics relate to our PM bringing up Monika Lewinsky earlier.
There was no need for any of this. The war is over. But certain people behave like they come out after watching a cheap karate movie. they want to hit everyone like the chandiya from a nearby slum.
the reality is US is not LTTE. It has power to make or break nations. but the Mahinda govt will probably never get it. that is why this govt is not suitable in a post war situation.
Panhida is right, after the second world war there was a moment to elect Attlee as prime minster.
The slogan was Churchill for war Attlee for peace.
We should learn form these countries.
The Rajapaksha regime has done its required work we should dispose it as a condom.
Mr. Sam Perera
Please give where credit is due.
PonnaSekeram2010 the Terrorist/Green Monkey,
"Mr. Sam Perera
Please give where credit is due"
Are you saying that Ponna Ranil, Gobba Kiriella, Gon Karunanayake aka Pamankada Gona, and their stooges deserves credit for kicking your Thalivar out?
Full text of Inner City Press report as follows:
By Matthew Russell Lee
UNITED NATIONS, October 27 -- As Sri Lanka announces another internal investigation of the war crimes charges against it, at the UN on Tuesday the Special Rapporteur on executions Philip Alston told the Press he has "begun to commission some analyses of that video tape" depicting Sri Lankan soldiers shooting bound and naked prisoners.
Inner City Press asked Alston about the reports that people seeking to surrender in May, waving white flags after in some cases speaking with UN officials, were shot and killed, reportedly on orders from the highest ranks of the Sri Lanka military.
"Let's have an independent inquiry," Alston said, noting that past "investigations" by the government were not independent. He used as his example that two Sri Lankan military figures were charged with investigating the execution video. The government of Sri Lanka cannot be proud of its track record, Alston said.
Before commissioning his own analysis of the video, Alston said he "would have liked the Office of the High Commissioner for Human Rights" Navi Pillay to have undertaken an investigation, as was done for example by Justice Richard Goldstone of the conflict in Gaza this year.
Inner City Press asked Alston about the countries on the Human Rights Council which have rebuffed his requests to visit, including both China and Russia, which blocked Security Council consideration of the conflict in Sri Lanka this Spring. Alston said "there has to be a limit," presumably to what members of the Human Rights Council can do. But for now, there are no limits. Alston's mandate expires in August 2010 and will no be renewed.
Two other Rapporteurs, on Internally Displaced People and freedom of religion, also took questions about Sri Lanka on Tuesday. Inner City Press asked IDP expert Walter Kaelin about a headline in Sri Lanka, "UN envoy pleased with progress," in the Sunday Observer of September 27.
Kaelin said he'd never spoken with that newspaper, and went on to criticize the conditions in the Manik Farms camps. He said people were being moved out. Inner City Press asked if the so called transit camps also restrict movement. He said that they did, and that this did not comply with international humanitarian law. Video here. But the UN keeps funding it, apparently.
Inner City Press asked about IDPs' right to return to their homes, and not be displaced, as some say is planned in northern Sri Lanka east of A9, by members of other ethnic grounds. While Kaelin said there is a right to return which the government of Sri Lanka has not disputed, he acknowledged that he is not able to closely monitor what happens on the ground. And therein lies the problem.
Inner City Press asked the Rapporteur on freedom of religion or belief Asma Jahangir about this same issue, Sinhalese versus Tamils, the Buddhist triumphalism some see in Sri Lanka. She acknowledged she'd heard of it, ascribing it to political fights "long ago." But these fights continue. The UN system, even its special rapporteurs, may appear out of touch.
[courtesy: Inner City press]
Sri Lanka has established many presidential commissions and various other "independent" bodies tasked with investigating allegations of human rights violations. None of the commissions have produced any results, either in providing new information or leading to prosecutions.
The most recent Presidential Commission of Inquiry, appointed in November 2006, to investigate serious cases of alleged human rights abuses was a complete failure. A group of international experts, appointed to ensure the investigation was being conducted according to international norms and standards, resigned in 2008 because it had "not been able to conclude...that the proceedings of the Commission have been transparent or have satisfied basic international norms and standards." The experts included: Justice P.N. Bhagwati (India); Bernard Kouchner (France); Prof. Sir Nigel Rodley (UK), Prof. Yozo Yokota (Japan); and Kamal Hussein (Bangladesh).
In June 2009, Rajapaksa dissolved the Commission of Inquiry, even though it had conducted investigations in just seven of its 16 mandated major human rights cases. The president has not published the report.
Among the cases it investigated was the August 2006 execution-style killing of 17 Sri Lankan aid workers for the Paris-based humanitarian agency ACF. Despite strong evidence of involvement by government security forces in the killings, leaked findings of the commission exonerated the Sri Lankan army and navy on the basis of limited testimony from witnesses
Mr. Sam Perera
Are you an ex-monk?
Do you live in the midwest?
Do you work in social services?
Sanjana interviewing Dayan
http://www.groundviews.org/2009/10/29/dayan-jayatilleka-on-post-war-politics-and-enduring-obstacles-to-peace-in-sri-lanka/
http://vimeo.com/moogaloop.swf?clip_id=7263574&server=vimeo.com&show_title=0&show_byline=0&show_portrait=0&color=ff9933&fullscreen=1
jay you just beat me into it. anyway i think Sanjana stopped the interview at the most important point :(
President orders probe over death threats on Leader
COLOMBO — Sri Lanka's president ordered police to probe death threats against journalists of a newspaper whose founding editor was murdered earlier this year, a spokesman said Thursday.
President Mahinda Rajapakse asked the police to carry out a "very thorough investigation" into the death threats against two senior members of the Sunday Leader newspaper, a spokesman for the president's office said.
The investigation was ordered as the New York-based Committee to Protect Journalists said it was greatly concerned by last week's death threats against Sunday Leader chief editor Frederica Jansz and her news editor Munza Mushtaq.
The paper's founding editor, Lasantha Wickramatunga, was gunned down near his office in January. The case remains unsolved.
Yet another probe. We have yet to see results of the "probe", investigation on Lasantha killing. How about Lakshman Kadirgamar killing?
-And what is the word for someone who uses force to silence any criticism?
Jay, isurujosh and all of you are right.
Mr. Jayathilaka is a firm believer of 13+, he even advocated this at the UN without even consulting the president.
And he knows how it works because he was a minister in the northeast provincial council under Chief minister Vardharaja Perumal.
We should have this kind of people making decisons for our country not the outdated unitary state cult.
The common candidate must not of the JVP, UNP or SLFP, but capable of changing this obnoxious system of plunderers of the country’s resources, financial and others, and who can do good in the interest of all and the country.
http://www.lankaenews.com/English/news.php?id=8571
Me first.
There is a paranoia about General SF's intentions fueled by rumours created by vested interests.
Many people misjudge the character of great military men.
I suggest everyone read this excellent article written by Major General (Retd.) Lalin Fernando about military men.
http://www.asiantribune.com/news/2009/10/24/honour-heroes-war
As Field Marshall Sam Manekshaw, the hero of the 1971 Indo-Pakistan war said to Mrs Indira Gandhi “Prime Minister, I am only a soldier. All I want to do is to serve my country. When I finish I will go back home. I have no inkling for politics or for any other government job”.
Blogger Sam Perera said...
Ponnasekeram2010 the Terrorist Scummy,
So you want to call our regular forces including Sinha Regiment asses?
Ok, Ok point taken, but what about my other points?
2. SF is not suitable even to lead the salvation army.
After this criticism army devolved power to individual division heads like Gen Dias and Brig. Silva, this also resulted in success.
3. SLA says they captured alimankada and show pix of pamankada.
After this they started showing pics of the places they capture this rapidly increased the number of new recruits; another constructive criticism
4. thoppigala is a jungle. there is nothing to crow about capturing a jungle.
After this most valuable criticism army started capturing important locations like, Madu, Vedithalathive, Mallavi etc, instead of jungles. Dindt this lead to the eventual success and finally capturing the most important locations like Killinochchi and Puthukudirippu?
5. you can't militarily defeat the LTTE.
UNP never said this, this is political slander. UNP always stood behind the armed forces.
And you still dindt answer my questions?
Are you an ex-monk?
Do you live in the midwest?
Do you work in social services?
Ponnasekeram2010 the Terrorist,
It is very clear that you are accusing the commander of the army in that time, general Sarath Fonseka that he didn't do his job right until Ponna Ranil, Gobba Kiriella, Gon Karunanayake aka Pamankada Gona, and their stooges made proverbial buffoons out of themselves. If so, why are you promoting him for presidency? Are you implying that you are promoting an incompetent man for presidency?
You said,
"Ok, Ok point taken, but what about my other points?"
Now if you took the point as you claim, all the soldier in SLA needs a public apology from you. Ready to do it on the political stage soon? If you are ready, we can get the TV crew record it.
Mr. Sam Perera
No one is perfect, SF knows that, that is why he is a gentleman unlike the Rajapakshas's
This is why we support him.
And you still havent answered my questions?
Are you an ex-monk?
Do you live in the midwest?
Do you work in social services?
Mr. Perera
The Gen. is a humble man, that is why we support him.
Even his campaign launching speech he starts by apologizing for his mistakes.
You people cant learn from a great leader.
Here is a link listen to it if you still haven't.
Ponnasekeram2010 the Terrorist Pretending to be a Green Monkey,
Now to bust your blatant lies.
2. SF is not suitable even to lead the salvation army.
After this criticism army devolved power to individual division heads like Gen Dias and Brig. Silva, this also resulted in success.
Mangala Samaraweera said this on 2008-11-27 However, by November 27th both the 57th division and 58th division lead by Maj General Dias and Brigadier Silva has already reached the perimeter of Kilinochchi. check this Orbatmap timeline.
3. SLA says they captured alimankada and show pix of pamankada.
After this they started showing pics of the places they capture this rapidly increased the number of new recruits; another constructive criticism
It was on 2009-01-02 General Dias raised flag in Kilinochchi and on 2008-11-13 Pamankada Gona aka Gon Karunanayake made his dumb statement. By October 28th our soldier reached Nachcchikuda, Jeypuram , and Nochchimadei and fighting their way towards Kilinochchi.
4. thoppigala is a jungle. there is nothing to crow about capturing a jungle.
After this most valuable criticism army started capturing important locations like, Madu, Vedithalathive, Mallavi etc, instead of jungles. Dindt this lead to the eventual success and finally capturing the most important locations like Killinochchi and Puthukudirippu?
Are you under the impression that the northern province is fully urbanized area without jungles. Please take a look at a Sri Lankan map. Only a proverbial buffoon that can match Ponna Ranil can accept this as a valid argument.
5. you can't militarily defeat the LTTE.
UNP never said this, this is political slander. UNP always stood behind the armed forces.
So you are here to defend UNP not General Fonseka? This is veru confusing. You promote General Fonseka for presidency while insulting him as an ass for not being a elite soldier, and then you try to defend UNP who insulted our military every day. Please explain?
And you still dindt answer my questions?
Are you an ex-monk?
Do you live in the midwest?
Do you work in social services?
I am not sure about what you meant by midwest. However, in my past life (2400 years ago) I used to team up with an ex-monk called Therapuththaabhaya to kick the crap out of Chola invaders. My name in that time was Nandimithra and I was born in Sitnamaluwa Village of Southern Sri Lanka. Two of us together with 8 more warriors served under the hero King Gamini Abhaya to kick Chola shit out of Sri Lanka. Unfortunately, I couldn't serve under the modern day Gamini Abhaya (President Mahinda Rajapakse) to kick LTTE terrorist out from my homeland. Yes I do social service by eliminating terrorists and stooges like you from my motherland
Parangis have been here for that long?
Blogger Sam Perera said...
And you still dindt answer my questions?
Are you an ex-monk?
Do you live in the midwest?
Do you work in social services?
I am not sure about what you meant by midwest. However, in my past life (2400 years ago) I used to team up with an ex-monk called Therapuththaabhaya to kick the crap out of Chola invaders. My name in that time was Nandimithra and I was born in Sitnamaluwa Village of Southern Sri Lanka. Two of us together with 8 more warriors served under the hero King Gamini Abhaya to kick Chola shit out of Sri Lanka. Unfortunately, I couldn't serve under the modern day Gamini Abhaya (President Mahinda Rajapakse) to kick LTTE terrorist out from my homeland. Yes I do social service by eliminating terrorists and stooges like you from my motherland
Thanks
You are who I thought you are.
President Rajapakse hasn’t got much to worry about.
Brilliant!
2010,
your responses are like TAMILNET.TV!!!
the bootomline is UNP are a bunch of lesbian traitors. until that changes, the MAJORITY is not going to be fooled again.
add to that list.
6. on 2001 december 4, UNP vowed on a sacred buddhist book that it will not lift the ban on the LTTE. but before 100 days, it lifetd the ban!!!
what a disgrace to the whole armed forces, buddhism, voters and HONESTY!!
honesty of lesbians???
by arse!!
කිසිදු යුද හමුදා නිලධාරියෙකුට හෝ සෙබළෙකුට
දේශපාලන කටයුතුවලට සම්බන්ධ විය නොහැකියි
එසේ වුවොත් ඔවුන් හමුදා සේවයෙන් ඉවත් කරනවා.
No ‘safe haven’ for terrorist supporters
By Malinda Seneviratne
There are things that were just not meant to happen. I mean it was thought that they would not and could not happen. For example, the comprehensive military defeat of the LTTE and the annihilation of the entire LTTE military leadership, headed by that ruthless terrorist, Velupillai Prabhakaran. All kinds of ‘alternative’ strategies towards resolving the conflict were proposed in view of this ‘reality’ and shed of all academic frills they all boiled down to one thing: surrender.
After May 18, 2009, i.e. after Prabhakaran met his long-deserved end, these very same people who said Prabhakaran would never be captured, spent a lot of time manufacturing an after-life for the LTTE outside Sri Lanka. This effort received a severe blow on August 7, 2009, when the head of the LTTE’s international operations (including arms-procurement, drug trafficking, smuggling, extortion and other fraudulent activities) and the newly crowned successor to Prabhakaran, a man known as ‘KP’ was captured in Malaysia and brought to Sri Lanka. KP has not stopped singing since, we are told.
unrelenting lobbying
The pro-Eelam sections of the Tamil Diaspora, we were told, were undeterred by these setbacks. The struggle was to take a different form. In addition to Rudrakumar’s convoluted missives we also get to see news features on new-age Eelam activists, twittering away and lobbying representatives in their countries of residence.
It is not all about espousing a just cause though this is what it is made out to be. It is about intense and unrelenting lobbying. Lobbying is ancient. Lobbying is also about money passing hands, or into bank accounts. Even Barack Obama (darling to some) and his (Obama’s) new sidekick, Hillary Clinton, both received money from one Raj Rajaratnam, one of six people arrested recently with regard to what the FBI said was the largest ever hedge-fund insider-trading case. Federal prosecutors in the USA have charged the man with securities fraud and related conspiracies. Obama, whose eloquence and rhetoric sways only wide-eyed innocents who have been tripping on messiah-arrivals all their adult lives, pledged to be above purchase but proved to be quite the common politician. And if Obama, so enlightened, so good, so trustworthy, so ‘Nobelesque’ (according to Obama junkies, at least) is up for purchase, need we dwell on known pilferers of public funds such as David Miliband and their ‘purchasability’?
Funding Tigers
Raj Rajaratnam financed the LTTE, through its well-known proxy the TRO (declared by the US Government as a fund-raising front for the terrorist outfit). What is interesting and important is that 30 victims of terror attacks perpetrated by the LTTE have also filed a suit against the man, accusing him of funding the Tiger’s crimes against humanity to the tune of US $5 million between 2001 and 2007.
The US Government has previously brought criminal charges against people accused of raising money to help the LTTE. Rajaratnam has not been among these individuals, but the petitioners, filing under the Alien Tort Claims Act which allows non-US residents access to US courts to seek justice for violations of ‘The Law of Nations’, claim that ‘Individual B’ identified in the above case was, in fact, Rajaratnam.
Michael Elsner, attorney for those bringing the lawsuit, said in a statement: “The defendants, we allege, have the plaintiffs’ blood on their hands because those who paid for murder are just as culpable as those who committed the acts.” Elsner who works for the law firm, Motley Rice, of Mt. Pleasant, S.C., has previously brought similar cases on behalf of victims of suicide bombings in Israel and victims of the September 11, 2001, terror attacks, and states, ‘We are seeking justice for the victims of LTTE terrorism, accountability for those whose money paid for the injuries and murder of our clients and their loved ones, and a strong deterrent against anyone who seeks to support terrorists of any stripe’.
No ‘safe haven’ for terrorist supporters
By Malinda Seneviratne
Continuation
The petitioners include Sagarika Priyadarshani, the widow of Olympic athlete K.A. Karunaratne (‘Marathon Karu’) who was killed when an LTTE suicide bomber attacked a marathon event he was at on April 6, 2008 in Weliveriya. Sagarika and the rest of the petitioners have done what should have been done years ago. For thirty years, the victims (i.e. those who were injured in terrorist attacks or who lost loved ones or had property destroyed) have been silent. The LTTE capitalised on this silence. The LTTE even managed to convince the BBC that the attack at the Sri Maha Bodhi in Anuradhapura was an assault by the Sri Lankan Army on innocent Tamil civilians. The BBC stuck to this line for months.
Supporters no longer feel safe
The importance of this action is that every person and organisation that has directly or indirectly supported the LTTE can no longer feel safe. They have screamed and lobbied, protested and funded for years, believing they are protected by distance. This case, however, will be a wake up call to all racist LTTE supporters wherever they may reside. From now on, let all those ill-informed, hate-spewing, un-moored from all that is beautiful and tender in Tamil culture, live with the knowledge that they will be pursued to the end of the earth and their lives for the part they played in the perpetration of horrendous crimes against humanity.
Those thugs who thought it was heroic and contributive to the Eelam cause to attack Sinhalese in the countries they resided in must now do a re-think and re-invent themselves pronto. Those who threatened patriotic Sri Lankans and stopped them from running the national flag after the LTTE was defeated will have to ask themselves, ‘if this happened to Raj, what of us?’
Sooner or later, all those who cooked up documents so they could convince naïve immigration officers in Western countries that they were being persecuted and therefore should be granted asylum, will be treated with suspicion. This too is what the LTTEs mad adventure has cost the Tamil community.
And it will not only be the misguided, racist Tamils who have to fret. Raj Rajaratnam’s task was to give money, used to purchase arms and ammunition, among other things. There are others who directly or indirectly supported the LTTE and not all of them can make claim to Tamil ancestry. Those who offered logistical and material support to the LTTE will also have to face charges sooner or later in some court of law (Eric Solheim comes to mind and so too Hillary Clinton). Those who helped are culpable, of this let there be no doubt.
It should not be limited to the US courts of course. The ‘enemy’ does not constitute only those who donned military fatigues in the Wanni jungles. There are many apologists who even today call for the blood of the Sri Lankan security forces. They’ve whitewashed the LTTE at every turn and sought to win for the terrorist breathing space whenever cornered.
Quite apart from all this, this case will no doubt provide a rallying point for all victims of LTTE terrorism. All those who lost loved ones, or had their property damaged, over the past 30 years can now come together. The voice of the victim has been suppressed. The victim has finally found voice. Let all voices rise in unison. That alone may silence all the hypocrites who’ve spared no pains to support the world’s most ruthless terrorists. Their time, as they say, has come.
(Malinda Seneviratne is a freelance writer who can be reached at malinsene@gmail.com)
patriots,
shall we discuss defence for a change???
SF's statement of 5,000+ SLA deaths raises 3 CRITICAL defence issues.
1. SLA sacrificed 26,000 + over the years to win the war. NOT 5,000+.
SF was in the army when 26,000+ died.
all these sacrifices are EQUAL. we MUST NEVER forget the 21,000 when we talk about SACRIFICES
2. there is NO correlation between the number of SLA deaths and VICTORY.
of course deaths are part of war. to win the war you have to suffer deaths. even to lose a war you have to suffer deaths.
elam war 1, 2 & 3 caused 21,000 SLA deaths. 7,000 on average. SF fought ALL these wars too.
IF deaths are the criteia for glory, elam war 1,2 & 3 were MUCH BETTER than elam war 4 which we won!!
when we talk about fallen 26,000+ SLA not just 5,000+, we talk about the SACRIFICE.
3. in elam war 4 we followed a different strategy to elam wars 1,2&3.
"no dying for our land, let them die for theirs".
this raised questions when first introduced, but it worked.
obviously GR (MSc in defence) was of this view. 3 possibilities.
(a). SF was of the same view but now changed his view to the older (elam war 1,2,3) view.
(b). SF was of the older view from the start
(c). the 5,000+ emphasis was unrelated.
CONCLUSIONS
1. when we talk about SACRIFICES, there is no 5,000+ number, it is 26,000+.
2. when we talk about winning elam war 4 despite losing elam war 1, elam war 2, elam war 3, we have talk about the winning strategy,
"no dying for our land, let them die for theirs".
which is MORE about making the other make sacrifices than us.
also it is worth to mention at a religious event that celebrates lord buddhas teachings, the misled lives that were lost fighting against us. if racists didn't brainwash those MFs, they would be with us today.
යුද ජයග්රහණයට ධෛර්යයක් හා ශක්තියක් දෙමින්
ජනපති හා ආරක්ෂක ලේකම් යුදබිම සිටි සෙබළුන්ගේ
අවශ්යතා සොයා බැලූ අයුරු මා පෞද්ගලිකව දන්නවා
යුද හමුදාපති ලූතිනන් ජෙනරාල් ජගත් ජයසූරිය
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To whom should I vote in PE? My dilemma
Before the war was over I said even MR and the crowd rob SL 50% of its worth I will still vote for him next time if he defeats LTTE. He defeated LTTE and if I am going to be honest to myself I should vote for him.
I also said that while been a UNP supporter and a catholic the country comes first that the party of the religion. Therefore if an UNPer or its leader or the Catholic Church or its clergy or leaders support separatism then I stand against them.
Therefore o be fair to myself I should first be fair to my country I need just one more assurance towards this.
I am 100% convinced that the present overseas based separatist outfit together with the IC will create a separate state one day (may be 20-50 years later) if any kind of ethnic based devolution is done now.
If MR defeated LTTE as he loves his country and not with a personal political agenda for him and his family I need him to assure (in a believable way as his promises to many had been broken before) that there will NOT be any ethnic based devolution after the PE.
As many had pointed out before bill of rights or anti discriminatory legislation is sufficient to safeguard minority rights. This is all the western countries give and they can’t ask for more from SL. Hence this is what MR should be giving to all minorities and NOT devolution.
If this can be given and if we are sure of the word been kept then there is no other candidate suitable than MR to lead the country.
If there is a slightest chance of a devolution that would definitely lead to separatism in the future every one of you who are staunchly supporting MR now should be considering the possible implications. If any devolution that can lead to seperatism is given then by defeating LTTE MR has supported seperatism. Therefore you should be convincing MR what is needed is this assurance as stanchly as given by SF in his speech.
As for me if that assurance is there (and I am convinced of that) although I am certain that he will be a disaster economically for SL I will vote for MR as the integrity of the country will be intact.
Only way to convince the majority of this is all possible constitutional ammendmends that makes seperatism and excessive devolution impossible.
what are the ramifications of Mahinda Rajapaske actions shown below?
Mahinda is now essentially a puppet of india. he has now say and do what india orders him to do.
Mahinda mistake should not forget 50% percent of the electorate did not vote for him. People soon forget the war. terrorising the public using mervin silva and stealing using p.b. jayasundara was yesterday's politics. give something better or get the hell out is the message here.
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President Mahinda Rajapaksa sought a meeting with India's High Commissioner Alok Prasad on Thursday (October 15) evening. There were fears of an attempt that night, to destabilise the democratic system through illegal means..... That prompted him to inquire about help from India. Prasad, who has since concluded his term and left Colombo, contacted his Government in New Delhi.
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Now these need to sort out ASAP.
seriously, what was UNP supposed to do? Chandrika and the morons were in power for 11 years. It starts going bad with Jayasikurui, then kili, mulativu, the entire vanni is gone. in the end the army in places such as vavuniya were fallig apart soldiers shooting other soldiers not wanting to obey orders. It all ends with a devastating attack on the airport.
Now given all this, which moron wants the army to keep figthing? if it fought more, it would have eventually lost jaffna also.
CFA was needed becuse the LTTE forced it on the country because the army was badly managed by the then UPFA govt.
all we seek is the truth.
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Minister Yapa said the people who betrayed the country on February 22, in 2002 by signing the Ceasefire Agreement (CFA) with the LTTE, has now taken up cudgels on behalf of the security forces.
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Gentlemen,
Please leave comments and we need bucket loads of it!!!!!
http://www.theage.com.au/opinion/contributors/tamils-horrific-treatment-makes-them-desperate-to-leave-20091030-ho18.html
panhinda,
"what was UNP supposed to do?"
more importantly what it should do.
get a LEADER.
we all know RW was the result of a tiger screwing an elephant.
1. RP killed by LTTE
2. DBW succeeded and RW got PM post
3. lalith killed by LTTE just b4 and no challenge to RW
4. gamini d, killed by LTTE and RW came back to the top
5. many other leasders were killed by LTTE and RW came back to the top
6. RW defeated MANY attempts to change the leadership with the help of mano gonason, thonda's clan, jeyalath jayawrdana clan and mongal clan.
7. potential leadership threat from lucky algama was defeated by LTTE saving RW.
8. potential leadership threat from janaka p was defeated by LTTE saving RW.
9. challenge RW for the post of opposition leader in parliament and i'm 100% sure TNA will vote ALL 22 MFs for RW.
10. LTTE groups abroad give money to the UNP to keep RW.
can't you see it is the LTTE that is manipulating the UNP????
it will be VERY difficult to get out from this stranglehold.
LTTE got CBK by her neck but soon CBK managed to drop them.
it will be VERY VERY difficult to shed the LTTE now bcos LTTE is very desperate to hang on to it. after all the suicide bombers to kill or attempt to kill,
1. RP
2. LA
3. GD
4. GEN LA
5. JCP
6. CBK
7. SF
8. GR
9. neelan
10. jeyaraj
11. mahinda wijesekera (who called rani a ponnaya)
all these sacrifices were for ranil!!
moshe,
/*
more importantly what it should do.
get a LEADER.
*/
well, it was challenging times for everyone. given that UPFA had just promised 10 years full control of the north to prabakaran even before the vanni debacle indicate the options available to any leader was small.
in any case mismanagement earlier on UPFA tenure with regard to security made it so that eventually towards 2002, the options avaialbe to any leader was very small. prudent decisions that werent earlier made sure decisions such as 2002 cfa had to be made under duress or else.
the question that must be asked is assuming there was a hetro in charge in place of a homo, would he have done any better? i dont think so.
Gentlemen,
I reiterate; PLEAS LEAVE COMMENTS because its now bordering ridicule
http://www.theage.com.au/opinion/contributors/tamils-horrific-treatment-makes-them-desperate-to-leave-20091030-ho18.html
Our dearie Manjula having a nap:
http://lh6.ggpht.com/_bJcQSqpFaMA/Sdjd2RoQgJI/AAAAAAAAAmU/BdEm35eyodg/s1600-h/vithusha%5B6%5D.jpg
hehehe
Dearie Manjula’s playmates; kiss-ass play gone too far.
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_o_s3GVdJCi8/Rx4Y1RFmjsI/AAAAAAAAADY/8YNW32WxHQ4/s320/sri+lankan+airbase+attack++ltte+dead+bodies8.jpg
hoooooooooooooooo!
hehehe
Commemoration pictures in time for the Great Mahabooru event.
Selva, you are welcome.
hehehe
Manjula, nice lips ah?
Looks like well used. Innocent question - did they play bagpipes in the Tamil Liberation Army?
Manjula dearie, seriously are those two into arse-licking? Is that a strange custom just like marrying dogs?
BTW, the one who is getting the service is blue with envy!
Strange!
panhinda,
you got a point there. a htro won't change much.
but we need an active, constructive opposition.
and UNP will come to power one day. change is inevitable. having RW unnecessarily delays it.
also due to the LTTE's stranglehold on the UNP, it unnecessarily loses public support.
Panhinda,
Now that you have asked the question what UNP is supposed to do. Start from dropping the following top scum out.
Ranil Wickramasinghe
Lakshman Kiriella
Ravi Karunanayake
Vajira Abeywardena
Jayalath Jayawardena
Mangala Samaraweera
Rosy Senanayake
Dayasiri Jayasekara
Malik Samarawickrama
S.B. Dissanayake
Johnston Fernando
The future of UNP will be much better if you handover the leadership to patriots in UNP like Sajith. Until then, UNP will have no place other than in garbage bins of Sri Lankan history. I beg you to go ahead and get rid of these top scum please.
panhinda,
what we discussed is what has happened and the likly future scenario based on the past.
there is another aspect.
IF GOSL implements the provisions of the SIXTH AMENDMENT, then it is unimaginable where the UNP will end up. plus continuation with RW exposes UNP to further risk of breaching the sixth amendment.
re: MR
i didn't like MR b4 he proved his capabilities bocs he seems not to be from the society i grew up in.
i have not come across many ppl who wear sarongs during day time!!!! and i hate to listen to MR's talks bcos he lacks speech skills in all 3 languages. but he has got content.
i hate NR and CR too and MOST HATED is gordon brown!!.
but BR and GR have developed their own competencies which are highly suitable for SL.
you can't keep mark waugh away from playing cricket for australia just bcos steve waugh plays (or vice versa).
sam,
good plan. least disturbances.
+ mano gona-sung
+ hack-him
just 13 buggers come to think of it.
why should 4,000,000 UNPers suffer just bcos of 13 idiots????
it doesn't make any sense.
sam,
/*
The future of UNP will be much better if you handover the leadership to patriots in UNP like Sajith.
*/
i did not chose to be born as sinhelese. my life here on earth is also short. since that the case i see no reason to compete someone else for something superficial as my culture or race. therefore in my mind the concept of patriotism does not score a heck of a great deal. all i care is truth, justice and equal treatment to all beings.
now as far as the UNP is concerned I have only one fan in there. that is rosy senanayake. i saw her won the contest some years ago and she hasn't lost any of her appeal in my midn.
as for whether UNP is some kind of horde hell bent on creatig something 40% of their electorate disagree ie. tamil homeland is something i do not see how you can believe.
i guess what we need to appreciate is there are people with different perspecitves and you need to respect that.
moshe
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plus continuation with RW exposes UNP to further risk of breaching the sixth amendment.
*/
just tell me one thing. bearing in mind UNP has to represnet 40% of sinhala votebase, do you think Ranil can risk anything like this?
panhinda,
RW already risked it. the 2002 CFA violates the sixth amendment!!
can't think why the matter was not taken to court PROPERLY. may be govt is waiting for the most opportune time.
chances are he will do it again.
on patriotism....
it doesn't matter what you will be born in next life. patriotism serves ALL races ALL times.
of course some MFs calling themselves patriots go screwing about like those who call themselves catholic priests go screwing kids in US. they are both pretenders.
the tragedy of not being a patriot is this.....
there are 2 forms of patriotism regarding SL.
1. SL patriotism
2. TE patriotism
there is nothing in between like in GENDER bcos SL & TE patriotisms are mutually exclusive.
so if you don't stand for 1, you fall for 2. and vice versa.
but nothing wrong in having it in moderation, no need to be a hardcore patriot like me!!!
its not that UNP has dropped patriotism but patriotism has dropped UNP. in july 2000 UNP arranged a patriotic monk to go on hunger strike over CBK's package crap.
all the male leaders of the UNP were patriots. DSS, DS, JRJ, RP, DBW, ranjan, gamini, lalith, etc, etc., were patriots.
RW is the only leader who is not!!!!
moshe,
/*
the tragedy of not being a patriot is this.....
if you don't stand for 1, you fall for 2. and vice versa.
*/
kinda remind me of the binary ultimatum made by George Bush, "You're either with us, or against us". if only world was simple as the world made inside GB head.
people who are much wiser now understand and laugh at these kinds of remarks knowing the kinda of damage it can do.
anyways im off.
panhinda,
it is not based on GWB crap.
it is based on the fact that there cannot be a grey area between right and wrong.
SL - multiethnic
TE - monoethnic
is there a grey area in between????? NO.
BTW there are INFITE numbers between 0 and 1!!!
1 example, 0.5.
lol!
and as i said, you can remain a moderate SL patriot.
it is unfortunate RW is the only judge of right and wrong for UNPers.
hope it will not befall the MR camp.
Panhinda,
Nice to se you back, bro!
However, I remember; you said long ago, this blog is poisoning your mind or something similar.
Yoy are dead correct!
Now the big Q is why you came back?
Any way happy blogging bro!
I hate, this blog because of low educated, uncivilised, filthy and drug addicted cyber thuggers.
Be careful mate!
Panhinda,
i did not chose to be born as sinhelese.
So did I and I don't know if somebody can. This is not about how you are born but how you act. UNP has enough patriots but the general direction it goes is controlled by those few in the list. Supporting LTTE terrorists is not an act we can look kindly. It is anything but patriotic. In the recent past, they acted covertly and overtly against national security and sovereignty of Sri Lanka in such an ugly manner leaving real strong signs that they can't change their nasty traits. They neither can understand common Sri Lankan's heart nor they care. In fact they go all the wa out to insult and ridicule the majority. It is very sad that great leaders like Gamini and Lalith are no more. Any way, the top scum can have thei own opinion but they shall remain as the absolute minority.
Sam,
Did your mom "choose" to get ass raped by a Parangi?
Last thing we need is a lecture on ethnicity from a cross breed like you.
28th of October, UK Parliament – Debate on Siri Lanka - called by Joan Ryan MP.
( if you get a green screen, try copying the link below and paste it to an address line other than DW, say MOD)
http://www.parliamentlive.tv/Main/Player.aspx?meetingId=4829
Long video (1h: 30min), but worth watching if you want to find out what the UK Diaspora and their friends are planning.
Throughout the video you can see the puppet masters seated behind the MPs. Could somebody put some names to these suites?
One of them could be Peter! (Our resident Sociopath from DNet).
Hansard - Westminster Hall
read from 28 Oct 2009 : Column 101WH, 2:30 PM.
9:00min to 11:00 min on the above tape, Joan Ryan mentions Professor Jayawardena, who met British MPs last Monday (26th Oct).
If she thinks this guy is a professor, is it surprising she makes statement such as:
the use of heavy artillery, multi-barrel rocket launchers and white phosphorus in densely populated civilian areas
We know that whole families are forced to share 20 litres for a couple of days, that there is not enough water to drink and that civilians who have struggled out of battle zones are now forced to bathe in the water alongside the buffaloes.
Women are forced to give birth under the trees and in front of strangers.
These one-sided Westminster committee meetings instigated by the Diaspora, are a regular occurrence now. So far the SL High COM / Sri Lankan community in the UK have been unable to influence the agenda – if you watch the video you’ll know what I mean.
When are we going to play KP’s songs?
FF/Sam & the rest...
The Ponz2010 is using my name here "Manjula Jeevananda". He got it from his fan page. Kindly ignore the shit hole...I gave reference to this blog when i joined it.
Yo Ponz2010, having fun?? Are you happy now Ponz?? No?? Get your Meliza to blow you. Can you bend that far?? Keep having it while you can. We all know how it's going to end. I am a MR supporter in case you missed it Ponz.
All the Ponz did is to create FB fan bases for MR & SF. UNP will go down more!!!
FF/Sam & the rest...
Keep up the great work & all the best...
Manjula Jeevananda
Manjulam Jeevanantham,
Can you please tell me a few things about your Tamil racial purity and superiority?
Does any of you know of the blog below:
http://lrrp.wordpress.com/
It is live and active and relates to SL defence!!! Not sure why it has no publicity, we are all here in this dead blog while there is an active one out there!
All glory to Sam's whore-mother for her gruelling gang-bangs with Parangi, Tamil, Malay and Moor (&more?) to give birth to this fine specimen of multi-ethnicity.
We are all here in this dead blog while there is an active one out there!
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Are we necrophiliacs?
Asithri's whore mom is dead but that hasn't stopped us.
Pottu said...
Does any of you know of the blog below:
http://lrrp.wordpress.com/
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Good site. Wonder who is maintaining it. Anyway we should try to keep this site up and running at this has been here for long time and many knows about this site.
Don't know what happen to DW.
That blog has been going on since 1998.
Btw, where is Mahen?
This is a mail I got from a friend in AU yesterday..
"Sydney beggars
"Naga" and "Habib" are two Sydney beggars.
They beg in different areas of Down Town.
Habib begs just as long as Naga but only collects 2 to 3 dollars every day.
Naga brings home a suitcase FULL of $10 notes, drives a Mercedes,lives in a mortgage-free house and has a lot of money to spend.
Habib says to Naga 'I work just as long and hard as you do but how do
you bring home a suitcase full of $10 notes every day?'.
Naga says, .... 'Look at your sign, what does it say'?
Habib's sign reads.................. 'I have no work, a wife and 6 kids to support'.'
Naga says ' No wonder you only get $2-3 dollars
Habib says... 'So what does your sign say'?
Naga shows Habib his sign......
It reads,......................... 'I am only a T….. Asylum Seeker
from Sri Lanka, need another $10 to move to Canada'
=====================
Perhaps that speaks about sentiments of law-abiding and hard-working Australian people.
Jagath Jayasuriya threatens Gen. Fonseka
“We should be partial to the government in power.
All governments at the end of their tenure hold elections.
Army officer or a soldier wearing a uniform has no right whatsoever to engage in political work with any contesting candidates and any such soldier or officer if found will be subjected to disciplinary action and faces discharge from the Army.
Support given by the President and Secretary Defence for the victory of the war directly attributed to its win over terrorism,” Commander further said.
http://www.army.lk/detailed.php?NewsId=1458
Hey Dumbo Ponnasekaram2010,
The commander in chief of armed forces is the president. All the defence forces are their to serve the people of the nation. The elected government is the care taker of the country. Therefore, the armed force are controlled by the elected government. Regardless if people selected Ponna Ranil or modern day Dutugemunu to be the president, the armed forces will serve the elected government of Sri Lanka. I assume that this is not too much for you two neuron brain comprehend.
RW backs Gen. Fonseka for president.
http://www.hindu.com/2009/10/29/stories/2009102961551900.htm
Mahinda says:
Ponnasekaram sould the motherland for tution fees and a modest house in USA.
General Sarth Fonseka is in USA despite the resistance to the war he conducted, and his daughters are studying in the USA , has been secured with a house and cash in a certain state there. His visit to USA and all other agendas behind is well understood, and the Washington DC Temple High priest who hosted and blessed him is a ex-JVP accused of the 1971 insurrection.
General Sarath Fonseka is taking this U Turn, certainly not in favor of Motherland, but only for personal benefits from Otherland!
http://www.lankaweb.com/news/items/2009/10/30/jvp-unp-usa-%E2%80%93-norway-ltte-conspiracy-hatched-and-born/
Ponnasekeram2010,
Ranil supports SF for presidency? So, Ranil Wickramasinghe is not confident that he has a chance against President Rajapakse? Isn't it pathetic that your leader thinks that he is incapable of winning an election?
Sam,
Isn't is pathetic that your father wasn't able to please your mother, that she had to go looking for a Parangi?
Manjulam Jeevanandam,
You are just subhuman refuse like Thalivar. We killed and flushed Thalivar in to your birthplace in Peelam, a cesspit. You too will get a chance to go to a cesspit. Just wait patiently for your turn.
ian,
nice article in LW.
agree. ppl should demand MR to drop racism based endevours if he is serious about the PE.
one way of doing it is to field a candidate under the "NO RACISM BASED SOLUTIONS" banner.
total crap told about SF in ponna homosexual media revealed!!
SF meets jaliya!!
he could have EASILY avoided it, if he wanted to!!
ANOTHER LOSS for the ponnaya clan. amusing!
real manjula,
there is a body snatcher hoovering around here for a LONG LONG TIME. this evil spirit is bodyless and if found a dormant body, snatches it!!
we are fully aware of it.
No-Mess
Prof Jayawardnana is Jayalath Jayawardana MP.
Only person who gave any kind of opposition was the Conservatives MP Clifton Brown.Patriots must get to the British Parliament web.get his web address and give our views on that matter.Future Conservative government will be cautious of the diaspora.If we are to get any respect as a nation then we must have some control of the law and order situation and other short comings.
I warned about removing the winning team at the London HC.
Patriots, a new thread!
DW has resurfaced after a long R&R in Bangkok (chosen only because the 1st choice, Killinocchi (former Sakkilinocchi) is still not able to serve "Gold Club" members such as our DW!
:)) :)) :))
OaO Asithri
Testing, New User
Too many comments.. the Defencewire needs another thread. This is crashing!
http://www.dailymirror.lk/DM_BLOG/Sections/frmNewsDetailView.aspx?ARTID=70021
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A Marxist group of Tamil militants with connections to the Palestinian Liberation Organisation and Cuba is preparing to mount a new insurgency in Sri Lanka six months after the Government declared an end to the 26-year-old war, the Times UK publication reported.
The People’s Liberation Army (PLA) was founded in eastern Sri Lanka four months ago and has vowed to launch attacks against government and military targets unless its demands for a separate Tamil homeland are met.
“This war isn’t over yet,” Commander Kones, head of the PLA’s Eastern District military command, told The Times during a night meeting in a safe house in the east of the country last week...... etc
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DW can you please verify the information. Please put some light on this matter.. seems crap but who knows ???
http://www.dailymirror.lk/DM_BLOG/Sections/frmNewsDetailView.aspx?ARTID=70021
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A Marxist group of Tamil militants with connections to the Palestinian Liberation Organisation and Cuba is preparing to mount a new insurgency in Sri Lanka six months after the Government declared an end to the 26-year-old war, the Times UK publication reported.
The People’s Liberation Army (PLA) was founded in eastern Sri Lanka four months ago and has vowed to launch attacks against government and military targets unless its demands for a separate Tamil homeland are met.
“This war isn’t over yet,” Commander Kones, head of the PLA’s Eastern District military command, told The Times during a night meeting in a safe house in the east of the country last week...... etc
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DW can you please verify the information. Please put some light on this matter.. seems crap but who knows ???
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