Saturday, October 31, 2009

Sit Rep 31 Oct 2009

A cautionary note on the present situation re Gen Fonseka. Our task was to allow things to settle down on their own which has worked. However, recent developments led particularly by a section of the diaspora Sinhalese is a cause of concern for DefenceWire.

DefenceWire team's stance up to now has been to avoid commenting on this dispute knowing fully well the capacity of both the present government and SF to come to a compromise on:

1. The direction the Sri Lankan Military will take
2. The direction General Fonseka would have to go

These may not be the most ideal directions for either, yet they are ones that are at best described as realistic and unavoidable.

There are many moves by politically motivated Sri Lankans, including Sinhala groups and also non Sinhala Sri Lankan groups to exploit a disagreement that has unnecessarily spilled over into the public's eye due to politics in the military and a very small section of the military in politics.

These groups, particularly those civilians involved who are not insiders or have little inside information can or will not understand the discipline of a professional soldier to take what he wants and to relinquish duty when required sans insubordination.

A professional soldier is not Dutugemunu. The Sri Lanka Army/Military is a modern Army/Military positioned within a democratic society. The professional soldiers serving in it will know when to let go. By asking them to perform a larger role based solely on selfish motives of individuals in the periphery, they may destroy that soldier and even themselves and their reputation.

The Sri Lankan Military and its leaders are now hailed the world over for their victorious feat. Their role in bringing peace to the country through military means will be remembered for decades to come as the ultimate example of a trained military executing its sacred task flawlessly from start to finish. But remember this, dear readers, military action is a means of achieving the end and the end is always political.

DefenceWire, as an impartial site whose work you have witnessed for over 3 years now wish to appeal to our readers to refrain from joining or supporting either 'camps' and to allow the professional soldier and professional politicians to resolve potentially resolvable issues mentioned above.

Thank you

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Moshe Dyan said...

thusitha,

no mate. i stated the reality of SF's financial requirements and funds available to him in the USA. FULLSTOP. never meant to ridicule him.

the truth in what you say is this. SF NEEDS ALOT OF MONEY IN THE USA. he will have to defend himself against TAG and other jokers.

and he plans to do "politics" in SL!! also to get rid of corruption!

something doesn't add up.

NO-PonnaSeka-2010 said...

Guys and the very best shit hole fukkaface - aka MR's feet licker. Here is my 2 cents.

This is bigger than MR and SF. MR did not get rid of LTTE - he just facilitated SF to do it. SF did not do it by himself. He did it by commanding his forces with ability and giving authority to the people capable of discharging it.

Ultimately, it is the soldiers who did the fighting and so much less so than MR.

Look in May I said monsoon will come and we need good drainage etc for these IDP camps. Even now they are poorly managed- how many escaped how many paid the chosen few to escape.

I do not give a shit about MR as he was elected. He is acting no better than ponna Ranil or wesa CBK or for that matter old Marcos of Phillipines.

Guys read about Marcos family - just like MR. The wives are splitting images too. Why the hell should we treat them like kings. Who gave them the right to kick public servants like this? Sri Lanka president is not a king he is elected. I appreciated how MR handled it up until May. Then it went to his head. He is lost.

Why did MR have to say Sri Lanka can go the way of Burma- he was implying a coup. If SDF wanted to have a coup- it could have happened long time ago. He focused on his given task. That is to eliminate LTTE.

What has MR done so far- given this that and the other to his family members. Think with your brains - he - MR_ wanted to serve the people - nowhere in that bargain did he say it is my way or highway. Now it is like I did this for the country so it is ok for me to make sure my family is in control for the next 100years??? What kind of shit is that.

I do not want Ponna Ranil or Ponna MR (after SF affair- guy has no balls). I would prefer SF to come as an independent Presidential candidate and clean up the corruption - only give capable people chance to run the show and not family affairs to do so.

BTW, life for Sri Lanka would have been much better if MR did not have the clown of a cousin as high commissioner in USA. The guy cannot even talk a good talk and he is the high commissioner- What kind of crap is that?

Unknown said...

Moshe Dyan
"longhorn,

thanks for posting the list.

i was after the 17th one. i KNEW it is going to be VERY VERY interesting and IT IS!!"

You are welcome!

You know? One always see what he wishes to see.

And these are what I saw. I read the differences here from the earlier version with great interest.

"14. Resettlement process of the IDPs was also a point of concern. The IDPs are resettled in an ad hoc manner without proper infrastructure facilities to the dismay of most inmates. The Government has resorted to this course of action merely refusing to incur an additional expense for the betterment of the IDPs. ....[This is indeed a short term remedy to get rid of the IDP issue. I strongly advocated that the resettlement should commence only after proper demining, providing necessary infrastructure facilities and on confirming of the identity of any infiltrated terrorists, thereby ensuring 100% safety and security to the younger generations among IDPs.]....

16. ...[The troop requirement for the resettlement is grossly insufficient and cannot sustain the demanding needs in the resettled areas, thus placing the innocent people in turmoil. Your Excellency's government is yet to win the peace in spite of the fact that the Army under my leadership won the war. There is no clear policy to ensure the security of the Tamil people thereby leaving room to ruin the victory attained, paving the way for yet another uprising in the future due to lack of security arrangements in the resettled areas. "]

Unknown said...

This means Ranil W. and Mano G. will have to dump the General.

Bhairav said...

Trivia time!

"Longhorns" refers to which NCAA team?

NO-PonnaSeka-2010 said...

You want to find out where we are from baihrav..right??
Anyways, longhorns are in texas - it refers to University of Texas football team

CASC said...

longhorn,

Thanks for doing a comparison of the two versions.

The difference is significant.

Patriots can be assured that the good General will not be doing the bidding of eelamists and homosexuals.

Unknown said...

CASC,

Its my pleasure.
Please read the whole thing. There are many other differences too.

CASC said...

Gents,

There has been a lot of nonsense in the newspapers about Greencards and alleigence to Sri Lanka. A Greencard is nothing but a long-term visa. It has an expiration date and is subject to renewal, and typically the person must show up in the US every six months to keep it going. There are a number of countries in the world where one can get similar long-term visas. It is similar to those visas with one caveat. If the holder resides continuously for 5 years he/she is able to get citizenship. Gota and Basil lived in the US for many years so they became citizens. For someone like General SF who comes for a few days every six months it would be very difficult to become a citizen. The US allows anyone to own assetts regardless of their immigration status.

CASC said...

For everyone's entertainment, you can see Ranil Wickemasinghe's bio which he has posted on his Facebook page.

Under accomplishments, he has this rather bizzare statement:

• One of his first acts was to sign a ceasefire agreement with the LTTE rebels and start peace talks. This has resulted in a visible development of the country. The civil war came to a halt; the North and South of the island was linked after decades and millions of people benefited as a result.

Someone forgot to tell him that the war is over and that the LTTE is no more.

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Ranil-Wickremasinghe/44092959539#/pages/Ranil-Wickremasinghe/44092959539?v=info

Bhairav said...
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Bhairav said...

[Anyways, longhorns are in texas - it refers to University of Texas football team]

NNP,

Obviously, you goggled up for "longhorns". When NCAA football season heats up for its BCS Bowl bids, it is normal that you got plenty of hits about the Texas Longhorns football team who is currently ranked No.2 in the nation, possibly will go to national championship too.

Right answer should be " Texas Longhorns" instead of just football team since Texas Longhorns have Basketball team that is also storied program along with many other sports programs such as baseball, soccer, etc.

NO-PonnaSeka-2010 said...

So Bhairev, Are you a longhorn?
I was an owl- if you know what I mean.....

Unknown said...

Breaking News- TNA and ManoG in discussions to field a common Tamil Candidate ..... not good for MR

Peter said...

I think land distribution would have positive impact if done by a graft free government, such as one led by Fonseka.

If the usual politicians are allowed to do it, most likely, their immediate family members will become new owners of "estates" and the landless families will have to lease or be labourers. That wouldn't change statu quo by much.

On the other hand, Fonseka could possibly distribute about an acre per landless family. This can help reduce poverty, which is probably the number one factor contributing to racism and violence. When people have something other than a 'konama' to lose, they may well be reluctant to take risks.

Moshe Dyan said...

patriots,

so what is the solution to the political impasse???

COLONIZATION (no joke!!)

imagine the govt is agressively colonize the north and the east with agri villages (to start with) giving land to 2,000,000 landless people.

these projects have VERY short pay back time. as land is given free and housing materials can also be MOSTLY sources freely (for a start), and agri work generally starts almost immediately.

SLA can help TREMENDOUSLY.

there are economic benefits and MASSIVE public support when SO MANY ppl get hope of owning property and increasing their earnings potential 100%.

BUT that is not the most important thing at this moment.

such a move REALLIGNS nationalist and anti-nationalist forces once again!!

get my point???

after the war's end the difference between these 2 camps have been disappearing by the name RECONCILIATION.

but it is not real reconciliation. it is bloody temporary reconciliation.

proper reconciliation is when ppl of all races live among each other in large enough numbers that it leaves no room to racist parties (TULF, TNA, ITAK, TMVP, SU, SLMC) to win the bonus seat.

(ok, TMVP and SLMC are not so racist as the others).

some may call it creating another controversy. another war. may be. but a good one. it will bring back ALL the patriots back to the fold, whereever they are. to hell with the monoethnic enclave idiots.

also there are some anti-war ppl who want RECOLONIZATION of north east.

although some pro-war guys don't support colonization, their loss is more than compensated by the anti-war pro-colonization guys.

additionally when ppl get OWN LAND with water, schools, etc., the revival becomes unstoppable.

all the nonsense that happens now is bcos NOTHING HAPPENS.

Sujeewa Kokawala said...

Moshe;

Recolonization is the magic word I a'm uttering too. But do we see it coming from either side.

It is enormously important that MR's Tamil alliance does not extend beyond, Karuna and Duglous. The two guys are the only tamil leaders who have noticed the need for ethnic mix. TMVP has not spoken much, but ofr that matter it is in the verge of disintegration. My prediction is taht Pillayan will soon prove taht he's too much for the high role entrusted. Quite a few will die but there will be a crack in their line up. UNP has a good chance in bagging one side into the Kottu Roti Allance.

Whenever the recolonization occurs the TNA, ManoG, Hackhim, RW, etc will open theior mouths. GOSL should make it a cotrruption free program [i.e. no political slotd for lands] and general national level and multiethnic.

Nothing much, just design some middle size Wewa along each water way. SL resources can do it all. There will be lots of land to be cultivated so we call for families to get registered. We settle them such taht there won't be "demala gam" or "sinhala gam" or "muslim gam". That is the only synthetic part. Rest is natural human migration.

Is there a way taht we can carry this message? Why is MR/BR etc are missing it?

Thusitha said...

Peter said...
I think land distribution would have positive impact if done by a graft free government, such as one led by Fonseka.

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Haven't you been reading the news. SF no longer works for the government. And Peter, it is very unlikely that you are interested in something like this without some kind of an ulterior motive.

Sujeewa Kokawala said...

Another UNP trick backfired? And glad our lads here were tad earlier seeing this. And I'm sure that this SF trick will also endup like the nomination list of Colombo Municipal Council, and the "As Kannadi" affair - the famous debacle/Joke of UNP politics.

And let me salute the great general, even on this moment of absolute helplessness, he did not follow orders given by his new alliance, and kept to his heart's content.

All in all he seem to end the CC role prematurely. Already he's getting the step motherly treats from UNA.

General has a welcoming hand waiting at MR side.

Let me call it prematurely [borrowing some skills from Manamendra Ponnaya].

"Sarath Fonseka: For the Minister of National Security and Internal Affairs under President Rajapakse"

Jayawewa.

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Resignation letter: Was it Gen. Fonseka’s or Joint Opposition’s?

November 15, 2009 01:34 pm

Serious doubts are now emerging regarding the letter to his Commander-in-Chief President Mahinda Rajapaksa by Chief of Defence Staff General Fonseka, requesting that he be permitted to relinquish office.



The full text of the letter reportedly sent by Gen. Fonseka was published by a website, which sources say was even before the President had read it. While the ‘confidential’ letter was already becoming ‘un-confidential’, the announcement that the General had handed in his letter of resignation was announced to the media by UNP Parliamentarian Ravi Karunanayake.



However, now political circles are questioning as to whether this letter was drafted in consultation with the opposition alliance or whether it was done by the General himself. The much publicized letter had some political overtures as well, sources say.



Today, sections of the media have highlighted that the actual letter sent by General Fonseka to the President was not the one that was ‘leaked’ to the media. The published letter and the actual letter contain several differences, they claim. Examples are the mention of the freedom of the press and the IDP issues among others.



This deletion and/or alterations as claimed, if true, has troubled some seniors in the main constituent party of the opposition alliance, sources say. They had reportedly queried as to how the original contents were changed without any consultations if the letter had been drafted in consultation.



Meanwhile, sources say that the President’s office which informed the media that the General’s letter of resignation had been accepted is now in the process of formulating a detailed reply to the contents of the actual letter sent by General Fonseka to President Mahinda Rajapaksa.

Jambudipa said...

moshe,

clearly you are passionate about re-colonization. the motive is also peace and harmony so you should be commended for such efforts.

if its done, it should be done legally passing a bill in parliament. lets debate pros and cons and make sure its absolutely fair. if its done underhanded suspicions will arise and create problems.

i see peter has also put similar constructive views.

Jambudipa said...

Racial integration, how singapore does it. clearly sri lanka has a lot of catching up.

Singapore Ethnic Integration Policy
http://tinyurl.com/ydcevzj

Public housing and ethnic integration in Singapore
http://tinyurl.com/yf2g424

Moshe Dyan said...

sk,

yes.

they will try to get into govt bcos that is the BEST way to stop it!!!

the solution is "JUST DO IT". let there be friends and enemies.

Moshe Dyan said...

panhinda,

of course. it is for lasting peace.

i don't want sinhala, tamil, muslim homelands.

but the human element of EI is the next step. it cannot be rushed. it cannot be forced.

to put a hand around a shoulder, there should be one. close by!!

mmm... peter is finding his way????

actually a large number of tamils are getting fed up trying to hold the north ethnically pure.

MR appointed a tamil from jaffna to look into required changes to thesawalamai law. it is the ip of the iceberg.

but the colonization program does not need anyone's blessings other than the beneficiaries and the doers.

"change of heart"
"i changed my mind"

common occurances.

that is why national security and territorial integrity cannot depend upon HEARTS AND MINDS ALONE.

Moshe Dyan said...

govts declare elections going by stars and planets!!

what bullshit.

the 2005 PE was not based on planets or stars but it worked well.

someone told me that mervyn's wife gave CBK election date for the 2001 election when she was the president.

of course she lost it!!

Sujeewa Kokawala said...

This is where we were on 21st May regarding Wanni Agricultural boom:



Major post-war Agriculture project on the drawing board
Over 30 imported food crops to be cultivated in the North


By Don Asoka Wijewardena

A massive scale Post-War Agricultural Programe is set for the Northern Province in the next few months and several foreign countries will assist Sri Lanka to agriculturally develop the Northern Province. One of the objectives of the government is to promote organic agriculture in the Northen Province.

The Agriculture Development and Agrarian Services Ministry has formulated Action Plan to develop the liberated Northern Province with sustainable agriculture. In addition to paddy cultivation, the Ministry envisages to cultivate 33 kinds of food crops imported to Sri Lanka.

The Ministry expects to minimize a huge amount of foreign exchange spent on importing several food crops which can be successfully cultivated in the Northern Province, the Agriculture Development and Agrarian Services Ministry said.

Agriculture Development and Agrarian Services Minister Hemakumar Nanayakkara told The Island Financial Review that an extensive survey carried out by the Ministry revealed that highly fertile soil present in the Northern Province would turn a new lease of life to its inhabitants as a whole because Jaffna district had been an agricultural power house before the war.

He pointed out that during the survey it was found that the soil contents present in the Jaffna district contained high calcium and mayosin and fertile limestones could be found beneath the ground. These natural resources were found to be ideal for sustainable agriculture of paddy, vegetables, fruits and several kinds of food crops.

He said that pulses such as green grams, black grams, finger-millits, sago and a number of pulses could be easily grown on this fertile soil. The projects would assist small-scale paddy farmers and cereal cultivators by providing agricultural implements, quality seed paddy and water pumps free of charge with the assistance of Australian government. Finger-millet cultivation was flourishing in the Eastern Province.

Minister Nanayakkara stressed that training schools for farmers engaged in agriculture were essential to develop agriculture and the Ministry would set up several agricultural training centres in the Northern Province. Training farmers on pre-harvest technology and post-harvest technology would be prioritized because high yields could be reaped during harvesting times. This process would augment the incomes of farmers.

He added that during the war some farmers were cultivating paddy, vegetales, fruits and other food crops in the Northen Province, but these farmers were unable to obtain fair prices for their produces as the LTTE got them. Another project to set up modern storage facilities would come into effect and under this project modern storage facilities, required infrastructure facilities and better marketing system would be introduced.

Minister Nanayakkara said that a state –of-the-art factory to produce Nelli syrup would be set up as the Province was endowed with alluvial soil for the cultivation. In addition to syrup producing, soap and wine production would entail.

Moshe Dyan said...

ramanie de zoyza has a point. spiteful SF basing is counterproductive, it must stop. but facts MUST be discussed, me thinks.

Peter said...

I've never been against land distribution.

Change of law in Jaffna isn't going to induce anything radical for as long no one is willing to buy. The law concerned didn't prohibit "outsiders" from buying land there; it was means to protect women who brought with them property as "dowry".

Anyway, in order to be effective, land needs to be distributed in deed, in a well planned manner, where people are provided with shelter, water, electricity and a market for their produce. Last thing you need is unproductive people "wasting" productive land and being a drain on state subsidies, e.g. fertiliser. There should also be a ban on people selling land acquired in such manner; otherwise, people will easily fall prey to loan sharks and will have to forfeit new-found wealth to scrupulous rich men.

Many similar schemes in the past failed because corrupt politicians took much of the land or created their own ghettos of supporters. Who will ensure that that will not happen again? I would question Mahinda's ability to pull off such a feat, especially given the sort of people who surround him.

Jambudipa said...

peter,

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Change of law in Jaffna isn't going to induce anything radical for as long no one is willing to buy.
*/

I doubt any non-Tamil will want to buy land in Jaffna becuase law has changed. It looks like the law wasn't a barrier buying land in any case. its probably more of Mahinda's bullshit to appeal to the nationalistic idiot down south.

The only way it will work is if landless is brought from somewhere else and planted there and given incentives.

Sujeewa Kokawala said...

Three important facts coming out of recent comments of Peter.

Re: Genuine will for ethnic integration?

If tamils, notably expats have this will, it will be the end of the ethnic ha-ho in SL. South has lived upto its reputation for not being racist right now. We have Tamils among us, some very wealthy and dominating, and there had never been a race based conflict.

It is the fair share of North to prove it.

I stand by Peter's assertion that colonization should be made apolitical as much as possible. For good or bad, the remaining land ares is more than enough to house all interested parties. As a strict rule the lands shud not be sellable for s significant period, and they should be acquired if no agrarian progress is made.

But the key attraction will be the wewa. It can be done one by one, each project giving lands for certain number of families. After this monsoon we have enough time to fulfill the technical needs of it, if we start now.

I am hoping that govt will get goinmg with the idea. And inviting the ppl here to take part in whatever way you can. We can draft a proposal too.


Re: India's evil plots

Peter, I blame the separatist Tamil movement completely for this. Them, being Sri Lankans, yet stiull thinking Indians opened the back door for India.

India is not SL's enemy. But like any big nation they influence their neighbours and try gaining advantage over them. If SL stood united this could never have happened. But teh SLFP/UNP crack and Sinhala/Tamil crack opened backdoors and here we are recovering out of a menace of 30 yrs.

Still the challenges will be afresh and unity will still be the key.

As an esssence the mythical bream of eelam homoland which was brainwashed upon you guys by those evil movements has to be abaondoned. Lemuria was a faulty concept, and over 100yrs ago it was dropped. There was no tamil homeland in SL, although tere must be a string tamil gene donation into the nation called Sinhala. It gives us more reasons to be one nation than two.

Re: Promoting of SF

Peter won't promote SF if he's in SLFP side. Peter is not honest here. Most parties whom wanting to attack GOSL would promote SF. We're yet to see the standing ovation taht SF will get from likes of Pussycats, West, NGO hawks, UNP traitors etc. So this support for SF by peter is totally dishonest.

But we know all circles respct SF for being a man of his own, including his die hard enemies.

Problem with SF is whom he's gonna make a govt with. He has traitors gang and a corruted gang. But most ppl miss to see taht lots of patrits fall apart from both and find themselves independant. If SF can come back in a future day with a third alternative he will get teh nod of those ppl. But right now it is a choice between traitors and corrupts.

SF via UNA is teh failure of century. Not only that patriots but also separatists will not vote for him. Especially seeing the honest and frank hardliner of himself.

In brief, change is upto tamil diaspora Peter, war proved inevitable, and it is time to rethink for you all. SL has been waiting for it for few decades now

No_MESS said...

Fonseka 2011 (or 2012?), what’s plan B?

CASC said...

Wow ! I never thought I would see anything rational or thoughtful from Peter. Welcome to Bandastan or whatever you wish to call Sri Lanka.

On the subject of Thesawalami laws, I don't think its going to make a big difference. There are also some obscure laws (mostly property) that are on the book that at one time were applicable to people of Kandyan origin. The civil code should be made uniform and should be applicable to everyone regardless of religion or ethnicity. This also means doing away with laws applicable only to Muslims.

Peter said...

India has many issues within itself. The way it holds together is by deterring its own ethnicities, by showing the woos of immediate neighbours. That's why, whichever way one looks from India, each of the immediate neighbours have troubles of one kind or another. I trained in India; I know their game plan rather well. If RAW can't play the Tamil-Sinhala card, it'll find another crack to position its chisel. Whoever leads Sri Lanka ought to know well about India's grand strategy and be willing to forge alternative partnerships. In this respect Fonseka is a better bet than Rajapaksa.

Corruption isn't an issue that can be simply wished away. Many Sinhalese who may well not be "racist" often see an opportunity to "milk" a Tamil and thus appear as racist. I know of Sinhala guys in customs who charge Tamils more simply because they can. Once the system of illegal charges are weeded out, "racism" will no longer have an incentive. Again, it is unlikely Mahinda would do anything to end corruption.

Land distribution ought to be done in an equitable manner to have desired effect. The likes of Mervyn Silva will only be keen to create their own ghettos, or reward their own bases. Fonseka is more likely to distribute to actual landless with an apolitical mindset.

As for UNP, given the powers vested in the executive president, it will be Fonseka who'll dictate terms to them. Fonseka will be able to fire Ranil, regardless of the portfolio offered to him, but UNP will have difficulties doing the reverse.

In my opinion, someone like Fonseka is long overdue. He'll take the island on the path of Singapore. But remember, it isn't possible to have the cake and eat it too. Singaporeans made their fair share of sacrifices for development.

Thusitha said...

CASC said...
Wow ! I never thought I would see anything rational or thoughtful from Peter. Welcome to Bandastan or whatever you wish to call Sri Lanka.

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I would like to see Peter writing this in his other blogs to make sure that he is not taking us for a ride here. Until then, I am bit vary of his statement here.

Peter said...

In my mind the problem is simple: ethno-politics has been too profitable for far too long. For SWRD, JRJ, Anandasangarre or Amirthalingam, ethno-politics paid dividend. And don't expect today's beneficiaries to give it up very easily.

Fonseka appears to want to introduce a new concept of development politics. If successful, it'll pave the way for politicians and parties pitching their credentials to improve economy and develop the country. This is what happens in the West.

CASC said...

As Moshe has pointed out Ramani De Zoysa's article is a gem. There needs to be civility in this debate over General SF. Insults and physical acts of violence against the General will not win the government and its supporters any friends.

One of the reasons our great motherland triumphed over the mono ethnic LTTE cult was because of democracy. Regardless of the faults in the system, and there are many, the democratic process allowed for peaceful transistions in government, ledership changes within major parties, introduction of new leaders and new ideas. The LTTE on the other hand was caught in a time warp with the same personalities over three decades, which ultimately lead to their demise. In this context, it is not unhealthy for outsiders like General Fonseka who do not hail from dynastic familities like the Bandaranayakes and Jayawardenes to come in and stir up the pot.

For the 15% Sri Lankan Tamils, learn to live with 85% of the population. Join the major parties and change the system. The margin of victory for President Rajapakse in the last presidential election was less than 1%. A Tamil voting bloc could have a tremendous impact on Sri Lanka's future politics.

Thusitha said...

Peter said...
Fonseka appears to want to introduce a new concept of development politics. If successful, it'll pave the way for politicians and parties pitching their credentials to improve economy and develop the country. This is what happens in the West.

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LTTE problem was never about development of the country. It was about having a separate Tamil State. How does SFs new concept of development solve that problem?

Asithri said...

Thusitha (to Peter Sakkiliya):

[LTTE problem was never about development of the country. It was about having a separate Tamil State. How does SFs new concept of development solve that problem?]

Good catch mate!

It is evident that this LTTE sakkili-balla is coming here and singing the praise of SF only because he knows that's the only way to split the Sinhela patriotic vote base that is today with MR.

RW/LTTE/TNA strategy today is known to be "first things first" which is to remove MR and then worry about other issues later on (i.e. on how to remove him (SF) also from any position of power, which they hope to do with a combined 2/3 or greater majority in the parliamnet).

Remains to be seen if SF is going to be a sucker for this grand scheme.

OaO Asithri

Sujeewa Kokawala said...

Peter;

The logic which you put together into your new concepts does not appear to stand within your support slogans to SF.

I appreciate your broad thinking. But SF as a CC is just a political joke. Before you gamble on it, take a breath and look around.

RW as UNP candidate can get more votes than SF as CC. I'd like to see anyone beating this statement.

Asithri said...

Mmmmm....now where did those "keshara" aka "Naviwhore" aka "greencard" aka "panhinda" aka "rana inccest dad" etc. cocksuckers go to I wonder?

Isn't it amazing how all these cocksucker IDs appeared here as if out of the blue, soon as this crisis began to stir the pot?

Members of RW-Mongol homo club?

Sure appear to be!

:)) :)) :))

OaO Asithri

Sujeewa Kokawala said...

Inconsistencies of Common Can-he-date plan?

Legal:

- Exe prez cannot abolish teh role. It needs 2/3 in parliament and referendum win.

- Exe prez cannot make an exe premier, same procedure applies.

- Exe prez cannot appoint a premier, well he can, but to be kicked out in a no confidence vote.


Political:

- RW will never let anone but him contesting

- If RW drops it SB the opportunist is waiting

- UNP don't like it

- Elements in JVP don't like it [there had been a debate already there]

- In case it is SF, tamil racists are demanding him to kneel down.

- Mongala has never been successful in political tricks.

- As kannadi affair of UNP seems repeating

- Even after all the organizing CC has a max of 40% votes. Patriots will never be voting together with pussycats.

Only positive in the CC plan is that it will open political eyes of SF. It is a good first lesson for him to find teh friend and foe clearly.

Asithri said...

Peter Sakkilli Balla

[As for UNP, given the powers vested in the executive president, it will be Fonseka who'll dictate terms to them. Fonseka will be able to fire Ranil, regardless of the portfolio offered to him, but UNP will have difficulties doing the reverse]

Proud of you! Spoken like a true, cunning LTTE agent (the same kind that got RW to sign the CFA!)

Nice try...tried to conceal the fact that RW+TNA+SLMC+SLFP(M) will see to it that with their combined strength, they will first alter the constitution to kill the exec. prez position (which is what most RW-Mongol homos are screaming for here) before dumping SF altogether from any power!

tsk tsk tsk!!!

Clever...but some of us see through this plot like how we saw through what the RW CFA was going to be!

OaO Asithri (proudest Banda from Bandastan!)

LMSSAO!!! Truly LMSSAO!!!

Asithri said...

Got to run and get ready the pit-bulls...

Heard there is a road-shitting yet another "war crimes cum genocide" rally coming this way, but this time with the pic of SF removed!!!

LMSSAO!!! Truly LMSSAO!!!

OaO Asithri

Sujeewa Kokawala said...
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Sujeewa Kokawala said...

Looks like MR doesn't wanna go for PE. All teh better.

Give SF story a rest and go for GE.

And get back to PE in 2 yrs. And it not only gives a challenge to the impractical opposition union, but also for MR himself. MR will have to live upto his standards if wanting to be re-elected in 2 yrs.

Meanwhile general will find enough time to understand what is meant by politics.

Guys have you see Sarath Manamendra, the Ponna Seka 2010 pimp?

Tamil Savior said...

Holyeeeeee Shit!

Bravo Asthiri you hit a bull's eye!

Cannot stay here as I am still cleaning the hole below.

Tamil Savior said...

Ooops, I mean to say Hold below ;-)

Bhairav said...

I'm fully against any kind of government sponsored colonization in North-East. If you Sinhalese want to buy land in North-East, go ahead and buy it; I have no issues with it but not with government sponsored colonization.

My granny was forced to sell our remaining land of more than 50 acres for peanuts in Kilinochi after series of bombing and burning on our businesses by IPKF, Tamil-paramilitaries and SLA from late 80s to mid 90s.

In some point, you have to forgive and move on with your lives but after witnessing of 20,000 of Tamils were slaughtered like animals it will take too much courage to overcome these hate-memory in short-period of time.

If SF isn't involved in any war-crimes against humanity, Tamils should consider him as a great ally. SF has the substance to be a greatest reformer of SL in the post-lankan civil war era. It is time for both parties to be genuine and make compromises for betterment of people in SL or face the another bloodbath in coming years.

Keep in mind that the biggest enemy of SL is India regardless of whether you're Sinhalese or Tamils, and MR is puppet of India at the moment.

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FukkFace said...

Bhiya

/I'm fully against any kind of government sponsored colonization in North-East/

On the contrary, I am fully in favor of it as that's how we begin to live in SL as SRI LANKANS and not as Tamils, Muslims, Sinhelas, Burghers, Malays, Chinese, Africans, etc. etc. etc. the fukking rotten attitude that has caused us all these murderous headaches. Get it?

/If you Sinhalese want to buy land in North-East, go ahead and buy it; I have no issues with it but not with government sponsored colonization/

Yes, we will buy where it is private property and just have the GOSL allocate it where where it is crown (state) property.

"buying" land in another ethnic group's traditional area is nothing new so don't talk of it as if you are offering us a concession – as, is that not what you Tamil racist motherfukkers did in Colombo, particularly in Wellawatte?

Yes, some of us with money will BUY while other less fortunate SRI LANKANS will be GIVEN land as it is pity to have precious land go unattended for the development of SRI LANKA.

As for,

/My granny was forced to sell our remaining land of more than 50 acres for peanuts in Kilinochi after series of bombing and burning on our businesses by IPKF, Tamil-paramilitaries and SLA from late 80s to mid 90s./

Well, shit happens man when you pick up guns and bombs and kill innocents to settle your racial superiority assertions.

Just be glad you granny did not perish to ashes in the process as nobody really has any sympathy on any form of racist-terrorism these days! It is clearly out of fashion.

FukkFace said...

Phaiya

/It is time for both parties to be genuine and make compromises for betterment of people in SL or face the another bloodbath in coming years/

hehehe....still into threats arsehole?

I love the way you motherfukkers think you won the war!

hehehe....wake up pundey and smell the gingerly oil, rotting-musky smell of your amma's koodhi.

Talk like a gentleman and we will talk to you likewise, but do not threaten us get it?

Yes, some of us Sinhalas are NOT related to RW/Mongol ponnayas.

hehehe

Thusitha said...

Bhairav said...
In some point, you have to forgive and move on with your lives but after witnessing of 20,000 of Tamils were slaughtered like animals it will take too much courage to overcome these hate-memory in short-period of time.

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Ah, now that is better. Bit of honesty. How many of them were Civialians do you think? Also you know it is not easy to kill 20,000 Civilians.

Also if you are confident this number is true, create a
Facebook page and put names and ID numbers. That way we would know for sure. Don't just bandy around numbers. Get all Tamils who lost their families to put in the names.
Yes I dare you guys get Peter Badhri and even Tamilnet and start creating web page for Civilians who died in this battle. Then you will see the lies of your own people. Maybe you already know this.

Also about hate, it is a two way streets, and I am sure there would be plenty of SL who hate you guys for what you have done to SLs for the last 30 years.

දේශපාලුවා said...

There is a lull in political circles, every one is waiting for the hidden hand to make its next move.

Srilankan said...

There is unanimous opinion that Sarath Fonseka is a tough soldier and astute commander. He is a man of tremendous courage and remarkable military acumen. But there were other aspects to his character and military record that negated his prospects of being Army commander.

Chief among them was an inflated ego of gigantic proportions. This resulted in a lot of friction earlier between Fonseka and his contemporaries . The long standing rivalry between Fonseka and his Naval counterpart Wasantha Karannagoda is legendary. So too was the intra-army strife with another top notch soldier Maj-Gen Janaka Perera

There was also Fonseka’s colossal arrogance. He fancied himself as a combination of Hannibal, Alexander, Julius Caesar, Napoleon & Rommel.In Sarath Fonseka’s self-perception he was Sri Lanka’s greatest military treasure and all glory was due to him alone. It was the “I, me., myself alone” syndrome.

Most contemporary officers resented the cantankerous bullying and crowing of Sarath Fonseka. They admired him as a professional but disliked him at a personal level. But Fonseka was highly popular among the rank and file. He always looked after their welfare and earned their respect and regard.

Srilankan said...

There was much inter-service strife. So great was the animosity against the Army commander and by extension the army that it required herculean efforts to get the Navy and Air Force cooperate with the army. Ideally this coordination should have been the task of former Air Force chief and Chief of Defence staff Donald Perera. But Fonseka paid scant regard to Donald Perera

It was therefore the onerous duty of Gotabhaya to manage tensions and coordinate matters. He liaised between the Army and navy and Army and Air Force. He smoothed ruffled feelings and secured the cooperation of all. Fonseka and Karannagoda the navy chief were not on speaking terms. Relations were rather strained though not ruptured between Air force chief Gunatilleke and Fonseka.

The Navy had played an important role by destroying many LTTE ships and interdicting supplies to the tigers. The naval cordon too had been very effective curtailing sea tiger movement to a very great extent. Likewise the Air Force had conducted several successful strikes on LTTE installations demolishing many tiger arms dumps. The aerial attack that killed LTTE political commissar Suppiah Paramu Thamilselvan was a significant achievement.

But all these were apparently not acknowledged by Fonseka in discussions within the corridors of power. Discussions like those of the National Security council were turned into colleague haranguing monologues by Sarath Fonseka. Still Gotabhaya managed to keep the war going by deftly striking a balance among all three services. Both Mahinda and Gotabhaya treated Sarath as a “prima donna” throwing occasional tantrums.

Srilankan said...

As far as Sarath Fonseka was concerned he went on like a spoiled brat causing havoc. A latter day Dennis the menace! Gotabhaya was alike a tolerant mother cleaning up the mess made by her recalcitrant child. There was also Sarath’s selfishness that created a lot of heartburn within the Army too.

Sarath Fonseka departed from tradition by withholding promotions and transferring officers whom the army chief regarded as not being efficient or up to the mark. In a noteworthy deviation from accepted norms several junior officers who proved themselves in battle were given rapid promotions.

Fonseka justified these actions as promoting the “strong” and penalising the “weak” in the army so that the force could be transformed into a formidable fighting machine. This unorthodox approach was rather successful in extracting frontline results and had the support of Gotabhaya in principle.

But the downside of this was growing discontentment against Fonseka among many officers. Several officers of Major, Lt. Col & Col rank were deprived of rightful promotions and sullenly harboured resentment. Again it was Gotabhaya’s lot to soothe hurt feelings.

These feelings were exacerbated by the naked favouritism displayed by Fonseka towards certain officers and unconcealed antipathy towards some others.

For instance Parakrama Pannipitiya the “conqueror” of the east was transferred and then removed from his post despite his military triumph. This was simply because he had fallen foul of Fonseka.

Pannipitiya was treated very shabbily and denied security. He had to go to Courts to get it restored. Later Pannipitiya was “framed” on a frivolous treasure hunt charge and penalised. He is now being restored to grace after Fonseka’s fall from grace.

On the other hand blue-eyed boys of Fonseka like Samantha Sooriyabandara were not subjected to penalties in spite of an abysmal military record as 53 division commander. Sooriyabandara suffered many reversals in his ill-fated attempts to break through LTTE defences along the Mhamaalai axis but was not axed. Eventually he got a plum assignment as defence attaché to the Washington embassy.

The growing disenchantment within military officers towards the conduct of Sarath Fonseka was best encapsuled in a pithy comment attributed to battle-hardened Brigadier Rajaguru. “If we go front there is Johnny and if we fall back there is Fonny”. Johnny refers to the LTTE’s anti-personnel mine and Fonny of course is Fonseka.

Srilankan said...

A glaring illustration of Fonseka’s tendency for self-aggrandizement on the one hand and denying honours to subordinate-colleagues was visible in 2007 when the Vishista Seva Vibushanaya (VSV) awards were conferred.The VSV is regarded as equivalent to the Distinguished Service order.

In the case of the Army all officers above Lt.Col rank with 30 years of unblemished service were eligible for this. Incidently Sarath Fonseka who completed 30 years in 2000 was yet to be awarded a VSV due to perhaps the operative requirement “unblemished”.

What the Army chief did in 2007 was to refrain from recommending any serving officer other than himself for the VSV. He also proposed that only retired or serving army commanders be given the VSV. To his credit Gotabhaya disagreed.

Regulations forbade the recommendations of the army commander being disregarded in the case of serving officers. But the Defence secretary ensured that 11 retired army officers got the VSV. This infuriated Fonseka.

Irritants between Sarath and Gotabhaya were not restricted within the defence establishment alone. Sarath Fonseka in media interviews would drop very heavy bricks causing adverse fall-out. On one occasion he called Tamil Nadu politicians “jokers in the pay of the LTTE”. When New Delhi remonstrated Fonseka was asked to issue an apology. He refused. It was left to Gotabhaya to patch up by issuing an apology for no fault of his own.

Then there was the infamous interview given to the Canadian newspaper “National Post”. Fonseka said Sri Lanka belonged to the majority Sinhalese and that the minorities can stay but have no say.He was asked to do some damage control by clarifying matters in another interview to a state controlled newspaper. In that he was even worse saying the minority communities could not make “undue demands” like federalism.

It could be seen therefore that relations between the Rajapakse’s and Fonseka had been under strain for quite sometime. The public “split” was not something sudden out of the blue but a logical culmination of simmering tensions.

FukkFace said...

asithri

/Mmmmm....now where did those "keshara" aka "Naviwhore" aka "greencard" aka "panhinda" aka "rana inccest dad" etc. cocksuckers go to I wonder?/

hehehe a good one!

Here's why:

The key differences between the REAL letter (the one delivered to MR) and the letter that RW/Mongol put out to the media:

1) The troop requirement for resettlement is grossly insufficient and cannot sustain the demanding needs in the resettled areas (SF included in his version but RW/Mongol left it out. This is saying SLA camps/posts must be established in the IDP settled areas, clearly a thing RW/Mongol will not go with as they are into bum-sucking the LTTE/TNA just to gain power)

2) I strongly advocated that the resettlement should commence only after…and on confirming of the identity of any infiltrated terrorists (SF included in his version but RW/Mongo would not– as they are into bum-sucking the LTTE/TNA just to gain power)

3) media freedom and other democratic rights continue to be curtailed…(although RW/Mongol wanted this added, SF deleted this in his version)

heheha…this is why this RW/Mongol homo bastards are silent…..they had a RUDE SHOCK with SF’s REAL letter and they are licking their wounds!

hehehe…..

Ada Peter Sakkiliya, still batting for SF?

hehehe.....

FukkFace said...

DeshaP

/There is a lull in political circles/

That is because the RW/Mongol homo clan had a RUDE SHOCK.

See my above post.

Moshe Dyan said...

peter,

ethno politics didn't end with them. it still is the MOST DOMINANT political ideology in the north.

e.g. TNA, TELO, ACTC, TULF

sinhalas and MOST muslims have rejected ethno politics or RACISTS POLITICS but tamils LIVING IN NORTH/EAST have NOT.

they are not likely to give it up.

but we can't waste time waiting for them to join national politics. we have to reclaim the north-east for sri lanka, MEANINGFULLY.

that can be done by LARGE SCALE resettling of voters who vote for national politics as opposed to racist politics.

the other thing is as long as the north remains tamil majority (tamil > sinhala + muslim) the tamil elam struggle will continue. this MUST be changed.

and after 1,300,000 tamils left north-east for good we have the IDEAL opportunity to do so and end the misery of tamil elam.

jaffna - 600k ppl (a VERY large number of them old ppl)

vanni - 300k

landless ppl in the south (of all races) - 2,000k++

after that hold GE, UNP/SLFP will won.

due to IC pressure hold a referendum for tamil elam, "NO" vote will win ALWAYS.

economic benefits are BONUSES.

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FukkFace said...

THIRUVANANTHAPURAM: Tahawwur Hussain Rana, who was arrested with suspected LeT terrorist David Coleman Headley, had visited Kochi in November last year before the Mumbai terror strikes, Kerala police said.

http://www.expressbuzz.com

Fukkkkk meeeee!

I knew our Incest Dad, that RW/Mongal supporting "Rana" was into something more than helping the LTTE whores here!

Moshe Dyan said...

srilankan,

re: sooriyabandara++, pannipitiya, VSV stories are true ASAIK based on media reports at that time.

prasanna de silva, karannagoda too had to temporarily and permanantly leave defence jobs for the same reason.

WK ws sent to crap highway ministry just to make it easy for CDS. and WK humbly accepted it after all what he did.

he SHOULD HAVE created a scene!!

we have a brilliant soldier who is unfortunately a very bad team player.

Bhairav said...

It looks as Assithiri's knothole avatar is fukface.

Bhairav said...

knother = another

FukkFace said...

Bhaiya

"It looks as Assithiri's knothole avatar is fukface."

I could be. Then again, I could be your fukking racist Tamil amma's avatar here as many tell me I smell of gingerly oil. So, one never knows ah?

hehehe.....

p.s. btw, I am FukkFace and not "fukface" get it? "fukface" was my father (who is believed to be in Colombo TID). btw, you like my eyes? See how sexy I look? Wanna cum in my eyes?

hehehe......

Peter said...

Ethno-politics is, of course, alive and kicking, even toady. That's why I said Fonseka seems like the only genuine contender seeking to put democracy to good use by introducing development politics.

Sinhala Only wasn't orchestrated by the Sinhala Urumaya; so, the issue isn't just name deep. However, introducing a ban on such parties would be a positive first step. I doubt Mahinda would have the courage to make such bold moves. If anyone, only Fonseka would ever be radical enough to bring about that level of change.

FukkFace said...

Ya baby ya....

Tamil racist cocksukkers listen up!

I am just a sample of the pent-up hatred, fury, vengeance, of Sinhala Nationalists that still simmers against the LTTE Tamil racist bitches.

Little do the LTTE bitches know what awaits them - as soon as we can spot one of them in SL!

hehehe.....

Ethnic Reconciliation - my foot!

If you Fukkers want "Reconciliation" then first go into the www world-wide and denounce Tamil separatism, apologize for all the horrific killings you did of our innocent Sri Lankans, particularly the innocent women, children, the old, etc. in the poorest of the poor outlying farming villages (i.e. "border villages) where you motherfukkers saw it fit to hack them with swords and axes, letting them bleed and scream all night before dying.

hehehe....nice ah?

Today our motto is "NEVER AGAIN" and to that end we will even Fukk the Devil if we have to, that too without a Condom!

hehehe......see how calm and collected I talk about what you motherfukkers did?

hehehe......

p.s. now, needless to say, we have "settled the score" exponentially to date (if only you knew the "stories!"), but when we come across whore-pups like you, it makes us think we did not.

hehehe....

CASC said...

Srilankan,

All of SF's character flaws that you mention are true. Everyone knew of his character flaws even before he became army commander.
He is arrogant and obnoxious and has antagonized many senior officers. Knowing this why did the Govt make him the Army commander in the first place, and on top of that keep him in that position for four years. They should have kicked him out in 2005He had less than one week to retire then, and Chandrika had decided to extend the tenure of Gen Shanta Kottegoda, which would have autmatically sent SF into retirement. They put him on a pedestal and then kicked him out and villified him after the job was done. This reflects very poorly on our political masters.

The rational that subordinate commanders were reaching retirement age and therefore SF had to be elevated to CDS and Karanagoda had to leave
is a bogus argument. After all General General Sepala Artygalle was army commander from 1968 to 1977.

They could have extended General SF's tenure in the army, kept Adm Karanagoda, and the subordinate commanders on extensions for as long as they wished, and never created the CDS position.

Tamil Savior said...

cacs

{They put him on a pedestal and then kicked him out and villified him after the job was done. This reflects very poorly on our political masters.}

Not true.

It was the General (retd) who burnt his bridges by being egoistic and cocky and forgetting who his bosses were.

For pete’s sake, this guy even had a problem in saluting GR who was his civilian boss (a "problem" as when they were in the Army, GR was junior to him!).

What did he think this was, a military junta?

He forgot that this is a democracy and whatever power that he got was what the people gave him via the democratically elected government!

So, is it a surprise that he would fall afoul with the govt. leadership with this kind of attitude?

He is a son of MotherLanka and he served to save the nation of MotherLanka and to do that he was paid a not-insignificant salary, provided with a nice house with all the perks, etc. etc.

Anyone who thinks he was serving to save MR GOSL and as such MR GOSL should have forever tolerated his egoistic, pompous behavior I think has got it backwards.

Frankly, for someone to have served the country (against a heinous enemy) and then to be demanding "special treatment" in my view smacks of illiterate, idiotic behavior!

Moshe Dyan said...

ethno politics and sinhala only.

the sinhala only was not a racist thing.

ppl voted for it in VERY LARGE numbers and most countries have only ONE official/national language. TF it is fair by SL to follow this trend which proved disastrous. ppl like sir mohammed fareed, mohammed badurdeen aggressively supported it. there were tamil candidates too who supported it.

but it was a mistake and SWORD B himself corrected it. a minority language by definition is only spoken by a minority of the population!!!

having said that SWORD B too had racist politics.

he formed the sinhala congress first!!! he WAS FROM THAT. the equal of RACIST all ceylon tamil congress.

so my theory holds true still.

but today there is no such thing. sinhala ppl have rejected sinhala urumaya.

only north east tamils have RACISM as their main political ideology, unfortunately.

e.g. TAMIL united lib front

TAMIL national aliens

illan-kai TAMIL arse kachchi

TAMIL makkal vidthal pulikal

TAMIL elam lib org

this is no accident.

look at their RACIST cousins in india.

when MOST indian states have national politics, tamil madu still has RACISTS politics!!

e.g. anna DRAVIDA munetra kaazalagam

all india DRAVIDA munetra kaazalagam

Peter said...

Why hasn't the government, or the president in particular, taken measures to prohibit such political parties?

Sound arguments are of little value if they fall on deaf ears.

Moshe Dyan said...

casc,

allow me to disagree, mate. no disrespect for anyone.

horses for courses.

as you said, SF was the best suited for the job. JJ and GA chandrasiri are better to lead peacetime work.

SL was/is under TREMENDOUS PRESSURE to leave behind the confrontational mentality. (some say SL thinks it is still at open war!!! going by the way some bahaved re: clinton)

MOST countries followed this after winning wars. those that didn't ended up in not so enviable positions.

the govt has more than the war to worry about whereas SF is only overwhelmed by war/defence (but not strategic defence).


but at the same time SL needs a strategic vision for its defence. so the CSD position was enhanced and handed over to the most suited as govt thought.

SF could have done hell of a lot in the CDS position, the most powerful CDS position ever. but he opted to do nothing for 5 months.

making SF the CDC NECESSITATED the removal of WK.

govt put up with a lot of challenges caused by SF. in US, UK, malaysia, bolevia, india, etc. this would NEVER happened.

Moshe Dyan said...

govt tried to ban racist political parties but failed recently.

bcos it violates the freedom of association as per the constitution.

banning these parties is not a fool proof solution. such parties should be MADE TO GO OUT OF BUSINESS.

SL has done that through colonization in the east to some extent. long way to go though.

and tamils too have done it in colombo through colonization!!

there are 20% tamil voters in colombo. if they want they can elect =20*20% = 4 MPs from colombo from TNA, TULF, etc. with a possible tie up non-racist tamil parties. or TNA, TULF could go it alone and get 2 seats.

but this cannot happen bcos tamil ppl in colombo have given up tamil nation, tamil liberation, etc. MOSTLY after they actually started to live with others.

so it is a proven UNFORCED solution.

re: corruption

NO ONE can stop corruption in SL. what should happen is reduction. SF is the last person capable of reducing corruption.

1. his own money requirements denominated in US$

2. his MASSIVE security requirement which he will ensure once in power

3. he needs 113+ MPs to form a govt. otherwise he cannot do anything being just the president.

if he can find 5 uncorrupt MPs, i will be surprised!!

4. MOST corrupt MFs escape using FR rights in the constitution. anti-coruption is not given constitutional backing.

for this we have to change the constitution which needs 150. getting 150 MPs for anti-corruption is absurd.

5. military style moves cannot reduce corruption. what happens to corruption by the enforcers???

nothing. that is why we need a legal, non-violent, non-personal approach to corruption.

Moshe Dyan said...

best example.

VP eliminated corruption from the LTTE and from his vanni. but nothing stopped VP's corruption.

don't tell me he is sun-dog and hence not corrupt and not corruptible.

Moshe Dyan said...

from TN.

"General Secretary, Sri Lanka Freedom Party (SLFP), Maithiripala Sirisena and the General Secretary of Janatha Vimukthi Peramuna (JVP), Tilvin Silva held special talks last week on issues related to the current political situation in Sri Lanka and the political actions to be taken in the future, political sources in Colombo said. The talks had taken place only between the general secretaries of the two political parties, the sources added.

It is also said that Basil Rajapakse, the brother and senior advisor to President Mahinda Rajapakse, had held several talks with the JVP parliamentarian, Anurakumara Disanayake prior to the special talks mentioned above."


wasn't there a punch-up between BR and AKD sometime back????

Sujeewa Kokawala said...

Peter;

Banning ethno politics has never been teh case anywhere although I fully consent this. But the first group to scream out of their arse will be your clan TNA, TMVP, Anandasangaree et al. Notable exceptions to Duglous and Karuna.

However the real world trend is to allow ethno politics within its limits. We need to ban pro-separatist groups. It should happen based on the actions not the name of teh party. In most places in teh world there is some ethno political segment which gets the odd 5% of votes. What differs in N/E is taht there is no alternative mature enough and ethno-politicians get ~70% votes.

And no wonder why we have a separatism war.

If you followed my postings, until somewhere in July I was against the synthetic recolonization. However my eye opening was the small election in Jaffna and Vavunia. Most ppl in North are blind voters and they seem to vote for anything Tamil Separatist. Sooooo.... there is one way and only one way we can get rid from the threat to SL.

Glad you're with us for this.


Bhairav;

You failed the whole plot of Peter. Yes buddy the line you take is most preferred by SL. Logic is simple. We're ready for integration, if you're ready for reconciliation. By the mean time, we'll deter any security threat raised by whoever party as we just did.

So it is left for you expat world to decide the appropriate path. Choose further war and destroy the already wounded beggars of kith and kin of yours, or accept the only valid identity Sri Lankan. Choice is yours.

20000 crap civilian deaths. Huh. All terrorists are civilians, and SF himself issued the number of dead terras past 20k in final battle. And of course bad things happen, like mistakenly civilians getting killed and mistakenly [or deliberately by your own racial factions] burning innocent ppl's property. That is because it was a WAR ZONE. In WAR such things happen.

That is why most people in the world try negotiating, changing and getting adapted to more pragmatic terms. Your lads are different for that matter and they bit the free toffy thrown by India about a mythical homoland and took to weapons as simple as Kamal Hassan or Rajinikanth would [Do you agree that this savage nature of TN and SL tamils descend from the third class cinema that you applaud so much, Cinema full of revenge, rape, burning, cutting hands, taking off eyes etc].

You waged war and collected the harvest.

You can do it again.

And regarding land allocations, who the F*CK are you to decide what GOSL does with crown lands. We don't want to steal any tamil lands, I mean those who are still with us. Of course we can give a grace period for resettlement for the expats, and otherwise there is nothing wrong in making use of their lands as they won't come back.

BTW, Peter here trying to be his modest and trying to tell you guys that hatred is not the way. And I believe that you gotta listen to the wise man.

Nevertheless pussycats, do not waste your time in selling our general to us. We know him very well, and we love him for what he is. He will get what he deserves based on what he desires. There is no more mental game you can play. Nor are you fit for such subtle games. Your plots are as transparent as clean water.

Keep on SF chanting.

CASC said...

Moshe,

No offence taken bro. Always welcome a different perspective.

Chandrasiri and Karangoda have a different skills set, which SF does not have. Chandrasiri is an administrator and Karanagoda has an Msc in Engineering. If they want to do what they are doing then it is their perogative. Sunday Times says that the President offered the Defence Minister post or the Prime Minister post to General SF, which I think is too late at this point.

My problem is with how our politicians treat people after they fall out. We had a former minister (then called National Security) who went to Royal College where he won the Shakespere Prize in 1952 and then went on to Harvard Law School ona full scholarship. Once considered a brilliant mind. His name is carved in marble in the school hall. He had a falling out with his personal secretary who knew all his secrets and then had the person killed in a staged accident.
This type of thing is not unusual or unique. One of my immediate family had to flee Sri Lanka after he fell out with a minister. Otherwise he would not be among the living.

In a sense one can't blame homo Mangala for being hopping mad. He and the JVP were key to ensuring that President MR won the last presidential election. Both were discarded at opportune moments. Dayan Jayatilleke is another exmaple. What happened to Kohona who left his job with the Australian Foreign Service to work for the President. He seems to have disappeared into oblivion too.

Let's be frank politicians do not like alternate power centers. It is in the nature of politicians to use people when they have a need and to discard them when they are not needed. This is especially true in dynastic politics where family members rule the roost. Sri Lanka is not unique in this regard.

Sujeewa Kokawala said...

[[wasn't there a punch-up between BR and AKD sometime back????]]

Moshe;

The JVP is living upto its reputation. There is no way they can fuse JVP and UNP at bottom tire. Still the chances of JVP doing a favor for SLFP is higher.

Only prob is that JVP is hell bent on abolishing exe prez. In theory I agree with them, but that is after they help GOSL to have a good voting system in place by giving 2/3 consent.

It all fits into place. This election will anyway be MR's. But then after whom do you think, in this country, to oppose exe presidency other than the president himself.

An ideal plan is for them to plan a constitutional change in parliament in next few years and softly settle into and exe Premier with that.

I'm gladthat BR/M-Sira are talking to JVP. It tells us taht their dogma is battered and they have heard the outcry. And they know taht they need to come back to where they were soon.

Maybe an indirect impact from General himself, for which I'd say, kudos. Democracy works only when there is genuine opposition, not when a joker is tooting horns and smashing pots, while shagging young politicians all over the place.

Jambudipa said...

Mahanayake: Presidential system not suitable

http://sundaytimes.lk/091115/News/nws_03.html

Mahanayaka tired of abuse of power.

Jambudipa said...


President Rajapaksa addressing SLFP convention questioned the public as to which of the elections they wanted and the majority raised their hands saying they wanted the Presidential poll first.


http://www.sundaytimes.lk/cms/article10.php?id=4495



Most SLFP feel president should step down.

Moshe Dyan said...

casc,

fully agree.

from the politicians' pov, they have changing priorities due to personal and national events.

they also seek security in yesmen.

re: JVP. they too were too rigid forcing MR to look for other partners bcos it was a bad time to go for elections.

similarly, one day sanath jayasuriya has to be retired from ODIs and T20s whether he likes it or not.

had they got rid of arjuna in 1997 as captain whether he liked it or not, SL would have done better in 1999 under SJ.

demoting mahanama in 1995 in the batting line up was seen as a politically motivated move!!! but it paid off well.

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Jambudipa said...

He said "today's patriot could be tomorrow's traitor", but he will not seek the path of hatred.

- President Rajapaske

does not add up. why security cut down less than retired Karanagoda? Karanagoda 100 security men, Gen SF 30 men.

Sam Perera said...

Panhinda,

"Most SLFP feel president should step down."

Really? I had no idea that you are a SLFP member. Please do no think that the readers are dumb at DW.

Jambudipa said...

sam,

im not a SLFP member. the crowd has spoken. they want PE first. clearly if they wanted prez to remain they would want it the other way.

Sam Perera said...

Panhinda my friend, I am all for a good conversation. However, my sense of humor is not in par with your.

Sam Perera said...

This is what R. Sampanthan the Scum of Sri Lanka says about IDP resettlement.

Q:You have expressed concern about the welfare of the internally displaced people. How do you see the resettlement plans going?

A: We cannot be satisfied by the manner in which the government is handling the IDP issue. In the name of settlement, the government simply takes the people out of the camps and abandons them without providing proper infrastructure facilities. They have no housing or a source of income. They do not have jobs as they cannot engage in fishing or farming. Many people have been sent to Batticaloa, Ampara, Trincomalee and Mannar, though they were originally living in the Wanni.


This top scum earlier wanted IDPs sent to their relatives places elsewhere. Now that it is done, he still complains about the results of it, no jobs, no fishing,etc. I beleive that this scummy is not aware that his terror pals LTTE destroyed the structures and infrastructure before they withdrew.

ranilb5 said...

This is 1998 commnet. I have no complaints. Main obstacle to Sri Lanka's development is gone. Now there will be all the transients before we achieve some steady state after some years. Sri Lanka has a better future...

Yuppppeeeeeeeee

ranilb5 said...

This is 1999th commnet for this post.

I wanted to reply to Sam Perera's comment. He si talking about the reality in politics. Politicians always complain when they don't have power and defend when they have power.

I think Sri Lanka should start tolerating dogs barking. Now the war is gone. No stray dog can push Sri Lanka down to teh hell now. In a democratic framework dogs bark and also they get exposed as mad dogs... Sri Lankan democracy has quite a long way to go to get there...

Jambudipa said...

ranil,

i agree with your view. our buddy sam here is still on a war footing. war finished months ago.

whinging and whining is the role of opposition parties. they highlight shortcomings of the party in power until its their turn. eventually things work out.

as for my intense buddy sam here, i urge you to take a chill pill.

Moshe Dyan said...

from dbsj...

"Fonseka also wanted the army’s strength to be increased to 300,000 and at least 100,000 deployed in the Wanni. He had elaborate plans of settling army families in cantonments in the Wanni thereby changing the demography in the north."

if true we have to get SF, JJ or MR to do this.

i don't care even shitler or ara-fart doing this.

Sam Perera said...

Panhinda,

im not a SLFP member. the crowd has spoken. they want PE first. clearly if they wanted prez to remain they would want it the other way.

I believe that you are asking me to take a chill pill while you engage in disinformation. Please don't think that we are dumb enough to change the offensive stance and let LTTE terrorists and their stooges get in from the back door. Just like Eelamoids are trying to establish Eelam one day in the future, we will try our best to send Eelamoids to oblivion.

I understand really well of where you thinking is coming from. You have started distorting information also known as disinformation. Please explain why having PE early is a way to get rid of MR?

Jambudipa said...

sam, sorry bud i still reeling from somethin else that has been floated.

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Please explain why having PE early is a way to get rid of MR?
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as a member of patriotic UNP alliance force I cannot reveal at this time.

priyashantha said...

Jay might be K Navaneethan.

Bugger lives in Copenhagen. Works in the drainage industry.

priyashantha said...

Paanhinga,

as a member of patriotic UNP alliance force I cannot reveal at this time.

There is no patriotic UNP alliance force. (PONPUFF)

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priyashantha said...

Last Mile,

Ranil has a bad horoscope. Until 2021 he has Shani Maha Dasawa.

That is why he wants someone else to contest.

priyashantha said...

Pannhinga,

Who is going home now?

Bye bye. Accept defeat and run. Typical Ranil Ponz.

LAO!

I'm sorry the president fuked your mother. That explains why you are angry with him. But your mother's plan to give president Gonorea is not going to work. She already gave to Maitree Wickramasingha.

දේශපාලුවා said...

we now know why there were two different resignation letters by SF.


From Sunday times.


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Sunday Times learnt, he had a meeting at a secret location with three key players of the United National Front (UNF) -- Opposition Leader Ranil Wickremesinghe, Mangala Samaraweera (SLFP -M) and Mano Ganeshan (NDF). This week, he was in touch with opposition parties again over his letter and the annexure that gave the reasons for his retirement.

There was heartburn yesterday among some. They were disappointed that there were changes after the two drafts (the letter and the annexure) Gen. Fonseka was to hand over were agreed upon. He had on his own added some matters and deleted others. "It does not augur well for the future. What if he does that kind of thing after he gets elected as President," one of them said speaking on grounds of anonymity. It was too late. The Opposition parties had gone public. Yesterday, most media had published the version that was released by these Opposition parties, and in fact, not the one handed over by Gen. Fonseka to the President.

Sam Perera said...

Panhinda the Terrorist Scummy,

priyashantha, still i make sure your you, mama, papa and your mother fuking president go home soon.

Nice try. You always come here pretending to be a moderate but we all know that you are a terrorist remnant like Peter. That is why Asithri serves you in the most appropriate way. I hope you heard how we caught your Col. Ram who was running away like a dog. The war is over but LTTE dog shit like you are still howling. Hopefully, dogs like you will be neutered soon.

Sam Perera said...

Deshapaluwa,

Can you please give us the link? Anybody associating top scum and dancing to their tune will not get my vote. I doubt that General Fonseka will have any credibility if he had top scum Ranil Wickremesinghe, Mangala Samaraweera, and Mano Ganeshan drafting his resignation letter. Teaming up with the worst scum who despised SF and everything he did is the least credible thing he can do. I hope that he will get enlightened soon.

දේශපාලුවා said...

According to sources at the Presidential Secretariat, Gen. Fonseka had complained to President Rajapaksa that he had been given only 48 hours to switch positions from Army Commander to Chief of Defence Staff. The President had responded by pointing out that then Commander of the Army, Lt. Gen. Shantha Kottegoda had been only given two hours to quit his post to pave the way for Gen. Fonseka. "He asked me a week's time so he could remain at General's House (the official residence) for the wedding of his daughter. Don't forget you were opposed to it and therefore he had to go," said Rajapaksa.

දේශපාලුවා said...

Here is the link.

http://sundaytimes.lk/091115/Columns/political.html

දේශපාලුවා said...

The fact remained that Rajapaksa had sent a contingent of commandos to protect Fonseka's children in the US while the battle against the LTTE was in progress, and after the war was won, a block of land was gifted to him, as was to the other service chiefs. Even the legal fees were paid for the notarial deeds.

මෙහෙමත් මිනිහෙක්

දේශපාලුවා said...

at the arrival reception next day (Thursday) for Burma's (Myanmar) Senior General Than Shwe.


When the ceremonies were over, Gen. Fonseka remained cool when the loquacious non-Cabinet rank Labour Minister Mervyn Silva walked up to him and declared "Naginna Epaa Kunu Bakkivalata. Api Gahanava

අම්මට හුඩු

Sam Perera said...

I simply hoped that General Fonseka had the integrity to keep the matters confidential, as himself called in his own letter of resignation, really confidential. Even though the matters have progressed beyond the point of no return, I wish that the people will treat him with all due respect for his outstanding service to the nation.

දේශපාලුවා said...

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Sam Perera said...

Panhinda the Scummy,

What I heard is that PE will not happen until 2011. In any case that will be enough time for Ranil to destroy UNP with induction of more and more scum to his group.

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Moshe Dyan said...

patriots,

forgive me for pasting this here. i don't believe this. but it is relevant to the discussion.


"While our boys give their life to get rid of the terrorists, the son-in-law of the Commander, Danuna Tillakaratne profits from every bullet fired in the war. As exclusive agent of the Pakistani arms dealer and ISI agent Ahmed Nissar (who stays rent free in Tillakaratne’s flat in Central Colombo – Tilakeratne Purchased this for 1.5 million US dollars) he gets 2cents for every bullet procured and 20$ for every shell. Add up the numbers and see how this young lad has become a multi millionaire overnight. Is this what our boys are shedding their blood for?

Why just stop there? His company HiCorp is made up of the relatives of the Former Air force Commander, and were involved in purchase of Migs from Ukraine, uniform and telecommunication equipment from China. Food rations from Malaysia and even tank transporters from Russia. We in the armed forces hate him.

The bugger is not only screwing the Former commander’s daughter Apsara, but the country also. A little bird tells lc that tillakaratne had a falling out with a former AVM, when he acted as the agent for the Chinese in a radar deal, bur “forgot” to pay our retired and now very unhappy AVM. Honor among thieves? Tillakaratne should also come clean on his links with his Indian Tamil partner who helps him stash away his loot

Napolean said an army marches on its stomach. Our boys are marching on their asses as the food packs supplied by Hicorp have been found contaminated with salmonella. Just imagine trying to fire a gun, while suffering from the shits.

Hicorp supplied ration packs, which were past their shelf life and bought cheaply from a Malaysian Tamil importer of Chinese made ration packs. While our boys lose their teeth , Tillakaratne and his friends feast on Caviar and champagne are the best restaurants in Europe and USA. Shame

So, 40 of our best boys die and why? According to both, Brig Shavendra Silva of the 58 division and Col. Suraj Bansajayah of 58-3 brigade who were involved in the heavy fighting, and whose boys bore the brunt of the terrorists attack, the ammunition supplied by the Pakistani arms dealer Ahmed Nissar, failed to explode. At least 30% of the ammunition fired by our boys, failed to explode. So not only is Tillakaratne, making money on the bullets but now he is even party to supplying duds to our brave boys.

Gen Fonseka while punishing his own solders for small mistakes threaten army senior officers when they did not help hicorp , Nexsel and British bourne – Companies of his son in law who made millions of dollars in commission.

Gen Fonsekas son in law registered the companies under the name of Lakshman Wijeskara in Sri Lanka and transferred all the money in Danuna Tilakerantnes name while registering the companies in Oklahoma and Dallas, TX in USA under Danuna tilakeratne name.

Gen Fonseka is a war hero who embezzled nation’s money through his son in law’s companies to build a political empire for the next presidential election.

While taking all the privileges away from Army officers – Gen Fonseka influenced his own tender boards to award tenders to Hicorp which is owned by his son in law even though Hicoprp did not have any experience or any an office space available to start with. Gen Fonseka threatened officers that he will take charge them if they do not help Hicorp.

Here are the facts.

Hicorp submitted all false evidence to win tenders they submitted to Army, Navy, police and Air force.

Moshe Dyan said...

...contd.

Even the bank guarantee form they submitted was fudged. Hicorp altered and printed fudged bank guarantee forms (Without the knowledge of the bank). Once this was caught by Army HQ officers and 2 Generals got involved in the matter under the influence of Gen Fonseka to cover up the issue. ( Gen Thoradeniya and Gen Mahesh senanayake and Col Rohan Wijesundara)

Army Hq security camera system was awarded to Hicorp (Nexsel – BRITISH BORNEO DEFENCE) under the influence from then commander Gen fonseka – Hicorp has failed to implement the system as specified in the agreement but Gen Fonseka got involved and asked to pay them more money to finish the project in which hicorp and some Brigadiers who were involved in this matter made millions of rupees. Gen Fonseka gave up the security of the army HQ to a company (His son in laws company) allowing his son in law to make millions of rupees when his company had not even installed a security camera system or has an office space in Colombo! The system started to fall apart even before army made the payment to hicorp and nobody questioned this matter due to any backlash from the general.
Col Rohan Wijesundara influenced many of the tender boards as well as issued a special pass to Randy DeHoedt to come and go as he wishes to Army Hq.

How about the Gas mask deal you gave away to your son in law’s company?
You influenced the tender board to award the gas mask tender to your son-in-law’s company and threatened to charge officers if they did not cooperate with his son-in-law and his manager Randy DeHoedt.

How about millions of dollars in commission from Tanks deal?
You asked your D-Plans to work directly with your son-in-law and not any other party.

How about the commission from satellite deal?
Your son in laws company still supply satellite images to Sri Lanka army and made millions of dollars in commission

How about the commission from Uniforms and boots?
You awarded the boots and uniform tender to your son in law’s company who represented as an agent for Brig Tilakeratne’s company (your son-in-law’s father’s company)

How about the commission from MBR?

How about the commission from your own Mercedes Benz?

How about commissions from Mig deal?

How about communication equipments deals from Brg Bashir and NRTS?

How about the commissions from the composes your son-in-law supplied to army?

Hicorp provided false bank guarantee certificates other affiliation documents with most of the tenders they submitted and when army HQ offices caught this one time Gen Fonseka got involved to cover this up and even transferred some offices to other isolated places. Even today at army HQ most of the documents available that Hicorp – British Bourne and nexsel submitted with tenders are altered and false. For submitting false documentation you can arrest Lakshman Wijesekara and Randy Dehoedt. When you question them you will find out who gave those instructions and all the details of Gen Fonseka’s Wrong doings."

දේශපාලුවා said...

මීට සති තුනකට පමණ පෙර ජනරාල් සරත් ෆොන්සේකා මහතාට තම අභිමතය පරිදි මාණ්‌ඩලික ප්‍රධානී තනතුරින් ඉල්ලා අස්‌විය නොහැකි බව "ද අයිලන්ඩ්" පුවත්පතින් මා පෙන්වා දෙන තුරු කිසිවකුත් මේ ප්‍රශ්නය ගැන අවධානය යොමුකර තිබුණේ නැත. මේ කාරණය හරියටම කාටත් ඒත්තු ගියේ වඩාත් සවිස්‌තරාත්මකව නැවත වරක්‌ ලිවීමට පසුව පමණි. එවැනි නීතිමය තත්ත්වයකට කොටුවී සිටි ජනරාල් ෆොන්සේකා මහතා කිසිම පැකිලීමකින් තොරව එම නීතිමය තත්ත්වයෙන් මුදාහැරීම රාජපක්‍ෂ ජනාධිපතිතුමා ගන්නා ලද සුවිශේෂ තීන්දුවකි. ජනාධිපතිවරණය සඳහා ඉදිරිපත් වීමට සිටි තම ප්‍රධානම හා එකම ප්‍රතිවාදියා සම්පූර්ණයෙන්ම තමන්ගේ බලය යටතේ සිටියදී තමාටම එරෙහිව තරග කිරීම සඳහා සියලු නීතිමය බාධාවලින් නිදහස්‌ කර යෑවීම මහින්ද රාජපක්‍ෂ මිස මේ මිහිපිට වෙන කිසිම දේශපාලකයකු නොකරන දෙයකි. මේ වෙලාවේ ජනාධිපති පුටුවේ සිටියේ එ.ජා.ප. නායකයා නම් 2009 අංක 35 දරණ මාණ්‌ඩලික ප්‍රධානී පනතේ විධි විධාන උපරිම ආකාරයට භාවිත කොට ජනරාල් ෆොන්සේකා මහතා නීතිමය දඬුකඳක ගසා තබනවාට කිසිදු සැකයක්‌ නැත.

මම "ද අයිලන්ඩ්" පුවත්පතේ ජනරාල් ෆොන්සේකාට තිබුණු එම නීතිමය ප්‍රශ්නය මුල් වරට ඉතා කෙටියෙන් සඳහන් කළ පසුව වුවද බොහෝ දෙනා කියා සිටියේ මා මේ ගෙන හැර දක්‌වන "ලෝ පොයින්ට්‌" රනිල් වික්‍රමසිංහට මිස මහින්ද රාජපක්‍ෂට හරියන්නේ නැති බවයි. අභියෝගයක්‌ දුටු විට මහින්ද රාජපක්‍ෂ කරන්නේ එය මගහැරීම නොව සරම කැහිපොට ගහගෙන කෙලින්ම සටනට බැසීම බව ඔවුන් මට කීය. දැන් සිදුවී ඇත්තේ ද මහින්දගේ ප්‍රධාන ප්‍රතිවාදියා මහින්ද විසින්ම තරගයට මුදාහැර සටන ආරම්භ වී තිබීමයි

සී. ඒ. චන්ද්‍රප්‍රේම‍

Sam Perera said...

Deshapaluwa,

Please don't consider DBSJ to be a credible source of information. This man is known to doctor comments ad posting self congratulatory comments.

දේශපාලුවා said...
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දේශපාලුවා said...

Blogger Moshe Dyan said...

patriots,

forgive me for pasting this here. i don't believe this. but it is relevant to the discussion.
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Nope too many stories talk about this matter, it can be independently verified.

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here is another story that indicated a continuing pattern of disgusting abusive behaviour.
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A close relative of Gen. Fonseka's son-in-law is reported to have got entangled in a club brawl, which saw him being 'bounced' from the club by its owner. The next day, the club owner had received a threatening telephone call. The club owner seems to have influence himself - he had reported the matter to Major General Shavindra Silva, Director General of Military Operations (DGMO) and Maj-Gen. Mendeka Samarasinghe, Chief of Staff of the Army, because the number of the call was traced to an officer from the Artillery Regiment at Panagoda. An inquiry was promptly called into the matter.

At this stage, the Defence Secretary got to know that the officer concerned was possibly acting on other's behalf and seems to have wanted to sort the matter out without allowing it to proceed too far when it transpired that the case involved a relative of Gen. Fonseka.
Chief of Defence Staff General Sarath Fonseka

Defence Secretary Rajapaksa then asked the Army Commander Jagath Jayasuriya not to proceed with the inquiry, and merely warn and discharge those behind the threatening call. However, the matter did not seem to end there.

http://sundaytimes.lk/091108/Columns/political.html

දේශපාලුවා said...

Blogger Sam Perera said...

Deshapaluwa,

Please don't consider DBSJ to be a credible source

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I dont unless it doesnt contradict with the facts we already know.

Moshe Dyan said...

someone tells me that danuna's home address in ***********, tusla, oklahoma is the same as the address of a sat com & IT company that had sold stuff to MOD.

without evidence this cannot be believed. but the CSI method may shed some light to the falsehood or truth of the matter.

priyashantha said...
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දේශපාලුවා said...

Blogger priyashantha said...

Moshe ponna keriyo just don't spread rumours here against a war hero.

I defended you everywhere believing that you are a real patriot. Now I think you are a ballige putha armchair defence consultant. I can find you. You cannot hide behind a computer and save your sorry ass.
Delete the lies or face punishment.

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Looks like Danuna is here.

දේශපාලුවා said...

priayashantha

Here is my analysis, why the General's loss is inevitable.

Why General Sarath Fonseka cannot win

send it to your friends, I wrote this last week

What I predicted in this blog is already happening.

දේශපාලුවා said...

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Address: # 7 Siebal Avenue Colombo,Colombo,Sri Lanka 00500
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Company Website URL:


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http://lk252467.en.asiaproduct.net/

Jambudipa said...

deshapaluwa,

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Why General Sarath Fonseka cannot win
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what make you think any of you have won? wait for Sarath Fonseka to air some his own dirty laundry in public. he is a product of the corrupt culture that prevail there under your govt. there must be more shit that will begin to fly soon.

all of you scum must come crashing down for anything good to come through in your hell hole. so dont laugh it aint funny you will soon find yourself out of work also.

- gone from here

Sujeewa Kokawala said...

Here we go: Use of rape as a weapon in war by British. Where is Hilarious?

ඉරාකයේදී බ්‍රිතාන්‍ය හමුදා භටයන්
ස්‌ත්‍රී දූෂණ සිදුකිරීම ගැන පරීක්‍ෂණ

බ්‍රිතාන්‍ය හමුදා භටයන් විසින් ඉරාකයේදී සිදුකරන ලද ස්‌ත්‍රී දූෂණ, වදදීම් හා පැහැරගැනීම් පිළිබඳ පරීක්‍ෂණ පැවැත්වීමට බ්‍රිතාන්‍ය ආරක්‍ෂක අමාත්‍යාංශය පියවර ගෙන ඇත. මේ සම්බන්ධ පැමිණිලි 33 ක්‌ ලැබී ඇති බවත් ඒ ගැන පරීක්‍ෂණ පැවැත්වීමට එරට ආරක්‍ෂක අමාත්‍යාංශය කටයුතු කරන බවත් බ්‍රිතාන්‍ය ඉන්ඩිපෙන්ඩන්ට්‌ පුවත්පත කියයි.

ඉරාක වැසියන්ට එරෙහිව අපරාධ චෝදනා කරන ලදැයි මීට පෙර ඇමරිකානු හමුදාවට ද චෝදනා එල්ල විය.

priyashantha said...

Paanhinga,

You run like your wesa moma runs after a deal. Come, get it in her hole, cum, run away, repeat.

Lajja nethi balu huththe paetiya.

Paaluwa,

Why did you omit my last sentence? Here it is for you.

Go lick Mahinda's ass asamathjaathaka paraya.

B#1 said...

Moshe, If the story is true, then we can expect more and more news from the opposite party too (i mean about MR/GR/BR and all R).. It could be worst than this :)

NOLTTE=Peace said...

No matter what.. the fat pig is no more.. that's what matters.

Be happy guys...

Whoever wins, as long as that person does not LTTE raise its ugly head, that's what we want.

Be merry and think about the good times we live in.

NO MORE LTTE or FAT PIGS!

B#1 said...

Moshe said,
[similarly, one day sanath jayasuriya has to be retired from ODIs and T20s whether he likes it or not.]

Yes. His retire would not mean that he totally give up the cricket. He can do more contribution towards the cricket even after retired, may be more than playing as an opening batsmen. But authorities should give him the proper position to serve the country. If they failed......

B#1 said...

President Mahinda Rjapaksa has tasked Air Force Chief Roshan Gunatileke to perform the duties & functions of the office of Chief of Defense Staff (CDS) in addition to his present duties as Air Force Chief.

lol :) is it necessary a post like CDS??

Kudammage salakili novedha deela thibune Gen. SF_ta??

aka said...

wht do u know abt dis?
"http://lrrp.wordpress.com/2009/10/12/this-is-my-last-address-to-army-gen-sarath-fonseka/"

***nt the news story bt the comment it hav got.

i havnt herd abt dis company b4 and bt i thnk they r a arms agent.it has a web site and i doubt they can develop all de products here.

Thusitha said...

B#1 said...
Kudammage salakili novedha deela thibune Gen. SF_ta??

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It is clear from the beginning. SF was thinking about a Political career, and MR wanted to get rid of him. So he made sure that SF resign. There are many ways to handle a disgruntle employee. Although MR didn't handle it well, neither did SF.

B#1 said...

Thusitha said,
[MR wanted to get rid of him.]

WHY MR wanted to wait to do that until the War is over?

aka said...

oh
i c that this has came forward b4...
sry bt 2000 posts is a number hard 2 keep a track on

Keshara-කේශර said...

NOLTTE=Pece said,

No matter what.. the fat pig is no more.. that's what matters.

Be happy guys...


True mate, patriots may fight and decide who is the best as long as traitors are kept as traitors.

SF can fight with MR as long as he is not conniving with RW, Mangala and Mano Gona.

K @ K

B#1 said...

I have to agree with peter on this,

[Keep in mind that the biggest enemy of SL is India regardless of whether you're Sinhalese or Tamils, and MR is puppet of India at the moment.]

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India knows SF is a BIG threat to India.

Keshara-කේශර said...

B#1 said,

WHY MR wanted to wait to do that until the War is over?

Because SF is the best army commander we ever had!

K @ K

Sujeewa Kokawala said...

For a crack of a Joke:

Donald Perera says that "It seems as if I held the hardest rank in the tri-forces during offensive. Phew"

Sujeewa Kokawala said...

Politics or not, Gen. Fonseka’s decision within two days

November 16, 2009 12:34 pm

A decision whether he is to enter politics or not will be made within another two days, says retiring Chief of Defence Staff General Sarath Fonseka while addressing the media at the farewell ceremony accorded him at Army Headquarters in Colombo a short while ago.



However, General Fonseka said that he intends to serve the country further after his retirement.



Meanwhile Sri Lanka Air Force (SLAF) Commander Air Chief Marshal Roshan Goonatileke has bees assigned the tasks of the CDS in addition to his current duties.

Sujeewa Kokawala said...

Fonseka told ‘vacate immediately’; relatives transferred

General Sarath Fonseka was last evening told to vacate the post of Chief of Defence Staff with immediate effect.
"He is retired with immediate effect. The letter has been sent to him this evening," Presidential Secretary Lalith Weerathunga told LAKBIMAnEWS. Fonseka's Office confirmed that the General was in receipt of the letter.
The latest twist to the tale would deprive Fonseka of the last two weeks of his service. He has initially sought to retire on December 1, but instead the President has effected the retirement immediately.
Meanwhile, in an unprecedented move General Sarath Fonseka’s relatives employed in various state institutions have also received transfer orders after General Fonseka handed over his letter of resignation to the president. Ajith Munasingha, General Fonseka’s wife’s brother who is a Senior Superintendent of Police and was working as director of the Ministerial Security Unit has now been transferred to the Tourist Police Division.
General Fonseka’s younger daughter, Aparna Fonseka’s fiance is Thulitha Perera, son of DIG Cecil Perera who was the DIG for Mannar, and who has now been transferred to Vavuniya. Now DIG Cecil Perera is kicking his heels without being given any specific duty.
General Fonseka’s older daughter, Apsara Fonseka is married to Dhanuka Thilakaratna, a computer engineer by profession and a son of retired Brigadier Thilakaratna. Dhanuka’s brother has recently been attacked at a Colombo club by personal body guards of a Major General from army headuarters. Meanwhile, police have refused to accept the complaint saying that they have been given orders and therefore could not record the complaint.

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Thusitha said...

B#1 said...

WHY MR wanted to wait to do that until the War is over?

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When do you fire a person? When they complete the task they were doing? Earlier, if the person is unbearable.

Look at his current behaviour, things such as green card fiasco, releasing things to opposition prior to him doing it personally, are they the work of a sensible person. I am sure MR and GR waited this long because they put the country first. Otherwise he would have been kicked out much earlier due to personality clashes. How long can some one wait knowing very well that he is talking to opposition.
Must have been like living with a women very well knowing that she is sleeping with the neighbours. Haha

Thusitha said...

Sujeewa Kokawala said...
Fonseka's Office confirmed that the General was in receipt of the letter.
The latest twist to the tale would deprive Fonseka of the last two weeks of his service.

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That is two days too late.

Thusitha said...

B#1 said...
I have to agree with peter on this,

[Keep in mind that the biggest enemy of SL is India regardless of whether you're Sinhalese or Tamils, and MR is puppet of India at the moment.]

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India knows SF is a BIG threat to India.

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O.k. MR is a puppet of India. Then explain the presence of China in SL. This would be the last think India would want. If MR is a puppet of India, that puppet is working against India.

Thusitha said...

Peter Said...
Keep in mind that the biggest enemy of SL is India regardless of whether you're Sinhalese or Tamils, and MR is puppet of India at the moment

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India is not the biggest threat to SL. It is the mono Ethinic Tamils who wants a separate state in India the biggest threat to SL. Also they are one of the biggest threats to India as well until they integrate properly with the rest of the Nation.

Moshe Dyan said...

priyasantha,

mate, first answer this.

towards who/what you have your patriotism???

is it towards SF?
is it towards MR?
is it towards anyone else?

it should be towards the nation.

there are MR arse lickers.
there are SF arse lickers.

there is no need to lick anyone's arses if you are a patriot. an arse licker can NEVER become a patriot.

SFs and MRs are only bullock carts and rockets towards a better nation. use them and dump them. or they will leave us anyway. but the country must survive for perpetual existence.

i know you HAVE BEEN a patriot and wish you will remain so.

if you don't i don't give a FLYING FART. don't worship anyone. be your own man/master.

i never arse licked MR, GR, SF or anyone for that matter. SL is my ONLY concern. i have stated in DW that IF (IF) MR and GR need to face bullshit war crimes charges, they should. they survived terror and there is nothing wrong doing it for the country.

i don't plan to enter politics!!!

that means i don't have to please ANYONE. and i will not please anyone but my sense of right and wrong.

Moshe Dyan said...

kk,

cheers.

Moshe Dyan said...

B#1,

"But authorities should give him the proper position to serve the country. If they failed......"

NO!

there is no need for the authorities to do anything after he retires. it is upto him to do whatever.

he can train youngsters on commercial terms, if he wishes.

Moshe Dyan said...

B#1,

the CDS position is a powerful position. it has no operational power but it has strategic direction setting power.

prevention is better than cure!!!

Moshe Dyan said...

aka,

no worries.

MORE to come!!

Moshe Dyan said...

i don't know about SF, but i can prove his son-in-law is a corrupt bastard who became a millionaire in 1 year thanks to MOD contracts.

you will be surprised!!

without top assistance, there is no way he could have done any of these.

it is a sad story for PATRIOTS. in two minds to say or not.

SHOULD I SAY OR SHOULD I NOT???

Sujeewa Kokawala said...

Adios great man, regardless of whatever happens you're for ever a hero.

Peter said...

The HICORP story has been doing round from around this time last year. I think it is unnecessary to pull it out of the grave at this time. Though it may seem relevant, I don't think anyone here will be able to verify the source.

Posting links to DBSJ's blog is rather low. Anyone who has tried to post a comment on that guy's blog would know of his integrity. I doubt that he has sources in either Fonseka's or Mahinda's inner circles. DBSJ has a decent imagination and good writing skills. As far as I know, he works for RAW. He took flight from Jaffna when he was about to be shot.

Tamil Nadu didn't train LTTE or other Tamil militants. RAW did. Most of the masters were Malaiyaalee. They didn't even use people from TN for translation. Most of the sensitive camps were in Bangalore. Tamil militancy was fuelled by India, not TN. I think most of you guys already know that.

Thusitha said...

Owu whenuwen pawathi subha pathime uthsawayata thrividha hamudha pathi warudha Trividha hamudha pathi warudha nowuha.

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If that is true that is unbelievably sad.

Thusitha said...

Peter said...
Tamil Nadu didn't train LTTE or other Tamil militants. RAW did.

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Yeah, that was a bygone era. That has changed quite a lot. These days the world is becoming open. There is no space for that kind of shit any more. In this age of Internet, it is impossible to hide this kind of shit any more. Therefore we don't have to worry India doing something like that again.

We do not have the same anger towards India the way you do. You have an axe to grind because of the support of India for this war.

As Moshe said, we should increase our troop numbers, but that is for future trouble from TN and not from India.

B#1 said...

[Owu whenuwen pawathi subha pathime uthsawayata thrividha hamudha pathi warudha nowuha.]

Kattiya hondhata tharangeta Bole mirikanawa athi lokkage.

Peter said...

Lol! So you think intel agencies have given up pursuing offensive, destabilising, strategies on foreign soil because of the advent of the internet? What do you reckon RAW is doing in Afghanistan, Pakistan, Nepal, etc?

I'll assume you are a teenager and leave it at that.

Isn't it Pakistan and China that sold you most of the offensive weapons? Remember 2000. How comes we don't have an axe to grind with them then?

Moshe Dyan said...

guys,

we have lost 27,000 soldiers.
45,000+ lost their limbs.

27 + 45 = 72k

if their families have 4 each, 72 x 4 = 288,000 are suffering forever. their loved ones died for the country. for you and me.

think of the kids growing up without a father. think of FAZLY LAPHIR, PWV, who fought like a maniac in a rage to rape the LTTE; yhink of kularatne; kobbekaduwa; etc. who innocently died for the nation when MFs by the name of heorism robbed the country.

still robbing the country!!

when this was happening, some MOTHERFCUKERS earned money from the war.

CURSE THEM ALL AND THEIR FAMILIES.

this is unforgivable.

for the sake of these gallant sodiers who made the supreme sacrifice, i'm compelled to make a revalation.

in 1994 CBK SCREAMED to stop corruption. but what happened?

she ended up being the MOST corrupt.

her blunders including shell, airlanka, etc. caused IMMENSE financial ruin to the country.

i have noticed that it is the most corrupt who scream about corruption!!

Moshe Dyan said...

there are 4 different leads. cannot reveal 2 due to lack of DISPLAYABLE proof.

flukes???

my arse!! then it is the most fascinatng fluekes in the world.

but i must add, there is NO evidence against SF. its all stacked up against in s-i-l.

Moshe Dyan said...

PROOF #1

danuna tillakaratne's home address is 1920 e second st edmond, OK, USA.

he has many businesses registered at the following address.

17545 gold dr edmond, OK.

one such company is,
Tidal Trading.

Company Overview

We an authorized distributor/wholesaler for a few companies.
Our products include tea that we could supply from any quantity, quality to any kind of packaging.
We also are a distributor/wholesaler for a large urea (fertilizer) manufacturing company.
Our company is also interested in military products. (we buy small military equipments to large equipments such as tanks and planes.)

Contact Info

Contact: Mr Danuna Tillakaratne
Company: TidalTrading
Address: 17545 Gold Dr, Edmond, Oklahoma, United States
Zip Code: 73003
Phone: 405 413 2634
Fax: 405 285 6226


here is the link. believe it!

http://catalog.globalimporter.net/company/92/106107

Moshe Dyan said...

PROOF #2

HICORP (Pvt) Ltd.

1. has sold MANY defence equipment to SLDFs.

2. has the main contractor - Randy DeHoedt

3. this FOOL admits UNASHAMEDLY that he knows danuna tillakaratne's whore mother since 2006!!! very well.

so well that he uses her as a referee!!

4. an arms dealer intimately befriends a former brigadier - tissa tillakaranta, his wife and his son who has a LONG term relationship with the daughter of the army commander.

5. this has happened under the direct and 100% knowledge of ALL the top guys, unfortunately.

this is going to be very long and very interesting.

Moshe Dyan said...

part 1 - the company

Our Organization is based in Sri Lanka with presence in the USA. We are specialized in integrated defense systems / Radar systems / Body armor / Ballistic helmets / armored vehicles and many other related products in Sri Lanka. We are a registered supplier for the Sri Lanka Army / Sri Lanka Navy and Sri Lanka Air Force / Sri Lanka Police Department / Government and Private Sector Organizations / United Nations Offices in Sri Lanka NGOs / ICRC / Red Cross Etc.

Company Name: HICORP (Pvt) Ltd.
Business Type: Other
Product/Services: Defense, Security, Surveillance Equipment

Contactor: Mr. Randy DeHoedt
Address: # 7 Siebal Avenue Colombo,Colombo,Sri Lanka 00500
Phone: 94-714-813111
Fax: 94-114-51427


note the address too.

the original! believe it!

Thusitha said...

Peter said...
Lol! So you think intel agencies have given up pursuing offensive, destabilising, strategies on foreign soil because of the advent of the internet? What do you reckon RAW is doing in Afghanistan, Pakistan, Nepal, etc?

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Very simple. If there is internet in every house hold, there wouldn't be any war. No one would want to fight. Every one would want to either play games, watch porn or blog. In next 20, 30 years no one would want to fight. That applies to the northern Tamils too. So if you plan to achieve PEELAM, you better do it soon.

Yeah, RAW does things, CIA does things, at the end of the day, even they can't predict the outcomes.
As long as SL intelligence agents are vigilant and our leaders are vigilant there is very little RAW can do.

That use to work in the past, but no longer. People aver not so stupid any more.

Moshe Dyan said...

part 2 - the FOOL and his model "covering letter"!!

Randy DeHoedt knew Asoka Tillakaratne (mother of danuna) EVEN BEFORE april 2006. he writes this letter around the bomb attack day on SF.

excuse me for the mix-up in referee section. but you can make out the correct details.

please note the ADDRESS and the names too!!
..........................

Dear Sir,

I Randy DeHoedt, wish to introduce my self in my endeavor to explore the possibility of my association with your esteem establishment.

With reference to the advertisement which appeared on Sunday Observer 23rd April 2006, I hereby wish to apply for ‘Client Service Executive’. In this context please find attached herewith my Curriculum Vitae for your kind perusal.

Conviction, confidence and the ability to work independently as well as with a team have kept me in good stead.

Referees
Mrs. Asoka Tillakaratne

Mr. Lakshman Abeysekera
Managing Director Director/CEO
Salon 7th Avenue Novex Pharmaceuticals Limited.
#1, Shopping Piazza, #7, Siebel Avenue,
Galle Face Hotel Regency Colombo 05.
.Colombo 02.
Tel. 2382992, 5678266 Tel. 2820512, 5511430
Mobile. 0777311229 Mobile. 0777360094

Enclose my resume looking forward to a favorable reply from you.
Thanking you.
Yours faithfully,
...............................

don't have to believe me. here is the link!

Jambudipa said...

buddy moshe,

thats true about corruption. how do you anticipate SF will hit back?

there's the Basil / LTTE deal. Rs 1 billion 4 installments, phantom housing scheme etc.

most insidious accusation was Basil promised the cash + karuna for election boycott. however ended up giving first tranche of the cash only.

prabarakan was furious notched up attrition killing more than 100 soldiers 07 dec period alone.

this is only rumor of course but perhaps SF may know more.

Moshe Dyan said...

part 3 - the salon

Asoka Tillakaratne, the force behind the success of Salon 7th Avenue is a Consultant Therapist with over a decade of experience in the Hair care and Beauty Culture industry. Coupled with her exposure to the multitude of products in the market is a deep sense of responsibility towards her clients, that clients that makes her go the extra mile to research fully the products offered and the needs and wants of her clientele. Asoka completed her GCE Advanced Levels in Bio-Science at Stafford College. She then completed a two-year course at the Morris School of Hair Design, London, after which she started working at Ramani Salon. Her two year tenure at Ramani Salon was a turning point in her career and enabled her to gain confidence in her skill as well as build a formidable clientele. She also worked as a consultant to the international Hair Care giant – Wella ; teaching classes in Hair Care and Beauty Culture.

Asoka believes in the products she uses and has complete confidence in the Derma-RX range from Singapore. With Asoka and her talented team you can rest assured that you are in good hands from the moment you enter Salon 7th Avenue. (I don’t think saying she’s a distributor and that there is professional dress in the workplace is necessary)

Address: No.1,
Shopping Piazza,
Galle Face Hotel,
Colombo-03
Sri Lanka.


Tel: Galle Face Hotel - Direct Ext: 251

Phone 1: +94-112-382992
Phone 2: +94-115-678236


Mobile 1: +94-777311229
Mobile 2: +94-717311229

Email : info@salon7thavenue.com
Web : www.salon7thavenue.com

this is the link and the addresses too

Moshe Dyan said...

part 4 - who the fcuk is this Asoka Tillakaratne???


lets go to the momentous moment of apsara's wedding.

Danuna, who lives and works overseas, is a computer analyst. The groom is also the son of a military man – Brigadier (Rtd) Tissa Tillekaratne, so the families have been friends since their children were very young, The Nation learns.
Apsara and Danuna were married at General’s House, Colombo 7 amidst a bevy of high profile guests, including the President himself. In fact, President Mahinda Rajapaksa signed witness to the marriage for Apsara while Gen. (Rtd) Hamilton Wanasinghe signed for Danuna. Also present at the ceremony were several cabinet ministers and senior government officials, including Defence Spokesman Keheliya Rambukwella and Defence Secretary Gotabhaya Rajapaksa.

The bride was dressed in a beautiful, pure white, heavily-worked lace saree draped Indian style and carried a bouquet of white orchids, which she also wore in her hair. Her bridesmaids, three in all, including her sister Aparna Fonseka, wore salmon pink sarees and carried orchids of the same shade as the bouquets. There were a total of 14 in the bridal retinue, including two page boys and two little flower girls. The bride and her party were dressed by Salon Seventh Avenue, which is owned and managed by the groom’s mother.

here is the link from nation.lk!!

Peter said...

Moshe,

No doubt that purchases were made via HICORP, which has an association of sorts with Fonseka. There are only six degrees of separation. When it comes to Sinhala or Tamil elites, I suspect there are no more than four degrees of separation. So, we can link anyone to any deal if we are willing to put time into the research.

What's missing is proof of actual corruption, an aspect of which could be favouritism. For that we'll need full tender process documents. Or proof of Fonseka's family having accumulated wealth beyond reasonable expectations. Though some doubts may linger, it may well be that HICORP was the best source for certain purchases.

Anyway, Gota is supposed to have been in charge of purchases. Wasn't he responsible for setting up the government subsidiary? So, even if there were misappropriations in contracts, buck will end with Gota.

Jambudipa said...

if anything what this proves is a conflict of interest. i.e. Gen. SF was in charge whilst his son-in-law made a bid for the tender.

corruption must indicate there were irregularities while selecting from competing tenders.

/*
Randy DeHoedt knew Asoka Tillakaratne (mother of danuna) EVEN BEFORE april 2006.
*/

this means son-in-law had the business before marriage. the charge that business was established so that SF could fund PE is baseless.

Moshe Dyan said...

lanka logistics where GR, SF, VW, RG, etc. were in charge purchased larger equipment and high value stuff only.

whaterv earned here went to the MOD not to any employee.

have a look at here what HICORP (PVT) sell.

http://lk252467.en.asiaproduct.net/

the army commander of a third world country has a son-in-law who is engaged in selling defence equipment to the same army!!!

too much for a coincidence.

Moshe Dyan said...

no connection but SF was appointed on 05 december 2005

danuna was studying until early 2004 at the oklahoma city area vocational technical school, okla-ma city, OK.

my INDISPUTABLE proof is against DT and his mother as well.

Peter said...

It is definitely, at least, a case of conflict of interests, but not much more serious than Mahinda's son scraping into the Navy after entry requirements were mysteriously lowered and then magically winning the scholarship for further education in England.

Jambudipa said...

buddy moshe,

there's a lot of smoke n mirrors here. for serious allegation you need more proof.

for example lanka logistics had P.B. Jayasundara on the directors board. wasn't he subsequently discharged by the supreme court over corruption. however he is now back courtesy of the president.

there is clear link between the president and a criminal offense.

there has to be something as clear.

Srilankan said...

The likely entry of (Retd.) General Sarath Fonseka in to politics attracts attention at many levels. Superficially, his acceptance to enter politics, merely to ‘save’ the triad of desperadoes, Ranil Wickremesinghe, Somawansa Amarasinghe and Mangala Samaraweera displays an appalling lack of judgment and naivety. Secondly, his aspiration to become President shows that he may not have carefully weighed up the ‘skill set’ he has on offer to the nation against the particular ‘job description’.

The people of Sri Lanka are likely to reject him overwhelmingly on these grounds. But there is also an important fundamental issue at stake. General Fonseka may have demeaned ‘military professionalism’ in the eyes of commissioned officers as well as the rank and file of the armed forces he led, at different capacities, for nearly 40 years.

The event of a former armed forces commander turning in to politics certainly sets an ugly precedent in Sri Lanka, but it is unusual even by broader Asian standards. Those who are academically oriented, or simply curious on the issue, are well served by two books on the subject written by Professor Muthiah Alagappa, Distinguished Senior Fellow at the East-West Center in Hawaii.

In the book “Coercion and Governance: The Declining Political Role of the Military in Asia” (Stanford University Press, 2001), Professor Alagappa presents a broad overview of the role of the military in Asia at the beginning of the 21st century. Based on an analysis of the state of civil-military relations in sixteen Asian countries, Alagappa argued that the key to understanding civil-military relations in Asia (and elsewhere) is the role and degree of coercion the military exercises in usurping the political authority of elected governments.

The conclusion was that nation building requires ‘civilian supremacy’ exercised through strong institutions that can effectively regulate the military and limit its role in governance. In an optimistic note, Alagappa concluded that, except for the cases of Pakistan, Burma and North Korea, the military in Asian countries was disengaging from politics. Conceptually, the study explained the trend on the basis of the particular needs of the processes associated with the construction of nation, state, economic and political systems in the countries concerned.

Srilankan said...

Another study of ten Asian cases including Pakistan and Burma (“Military Professionalism In Asia”, East-West Center, 2001) edited by Alagappa advances the proposition that ‘old-style’ military professionalism is on the rise in Asia, with reduced role of military coercion in governance and the increased distribution of power against the military. Fonseka’s move into politics sends a signal that Sri Lanka is moving in a direction contrary to this general model.

Fonseka’s motives are unclear. It appears that he is aggrieved that he deserved more than the reward of a ‘merwe’ career promotion (which he obviously saw as a ‘kick upstairs’). It appears that he is going to seek what he thinks is the ‘due reward’. But judging by his ‘gransiose’ plans, announced virtually the day after the victory to build up the army to a 300000 force, suggests that he harboured the thoughts himself. THat is the sort of coercian Alagappa is talking about.

Such a position clearly distracts from the notion of ‘professionalism’ in any field of public service let alone military service.

Fonseka and his ‘minders’ need to turn to America to learn what military professionalism means. If there is ‘one thing’ the developing world could learn from the Americans, it is about the commitment and professionalism of their armed services.

The US forces carry out the operations thrust upon them by their political masters, even the doubtful ones such as Afghanistan and Iraq, without question or expectations of personal gratification. This is despite the extremely shabby treatment (for a rich country that glorifies war), of the families of dead soldiers and rehabilitation of the injured.

American soldiers value the loyalty, sacrifice, and team-mentality embodied in the military. They enlist to serve their country as per the motto, of the Army – “this we’ll Defend”, the Air Force – “integrity first, service before self, excellence in all we do,” and the Navy – “honor, courage, commitment”. In joining the armed forces they forgo many career opportunities with much higher financial rewards. The number of cases of political aspirations pursued following military careers is small.

Ranil Wickremesinghe and Mangala Samaraweera who slavishly worship every aspect of the American system seem to think it is quite appropriate to ‘recruit’ a former military man to run for President simply because he is popular and they are not! The other instigator of this desperate move, the JVP is not worth focusing on because they are a political irrelevance with a dishonourable history.

Peter said...

There is a difference between coups leading to dictatorships by men still serving in the military, and a retired military man coming to power via the democratic process.

What Fonseka is doing is far from what happened in Burma and Pakistan, and much similar to former military men in US and EU who have successfully bid in politics. There are way too many examples of such presidents, prime ministers, ministers and MPs to list here.

Jambudipa said...

moshe,

There were no coup. The only reason Mahinda hounding SF was not his alleged corruption but his fear of losing the next election in a fair contest.

What Mahinda should do is contest on a level playing field over his POLICY framework. If he is as popular as he think he is, it should be just a shoe in.

priyashantha said...

Moshe Dayan,

I'm sorry I was pissed by what you said.

I still don't believe you. Just like me most Sri Lankans don't believe.

Okata api mini maraagena waedak naehe. Allala daapan bang.

SR @ LK said...
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SR @ LK said...

Good Read ..(SF as ‘Siri Sangabo’)

http://www.island.lk/2009/11/15/politics1.html

kevin said...

MD
‘it should be towards the nation.’
Well said and we too think and do the same.
Peter
How come you are spot on about Malaya lee/Raw connection?
So you seems to have changed your stand recently. Why not ask your members to work for a corruption free united island and shun communal politics for ever?It’s your guys who started it in the first place

Bhairav said...

Do not trace the shady dealings of HICORP since it can lead to Ananda-USA's bank account too.

Son-in-law of SF has made at least $8M as commission through defense contracts to SL.

CASC said...

Today is a sad and tragic day for Sri Lanka. It is interesting to know how another Asian head of state dealt with another general in the the aftermath of another war. What ever she may have been (Henry Kissinger used to refer to her as the witch), I think Indira Gandhi had a bit of class.

"Mrs. Gandhi, according to the FM called him (Gen Sam Manekshaw victor of the 71 Indo-Pakistan war) over to her Teen Murti residence. He told her that he was about to drink a cup of tea and asked if he could come thereafter. She told him “Sam, leave your tea and come over. I will make you a cup of tea”. That was how close they were; famous national leader and victorious army commander. When the FM met the Premier she came to the point quickly and told him what she was warned of (Indian Intelligence, largely sidelined before, had wormed their way to Gandhi with a tale that FM Manekshaw was planning a coup d’etat). The FM said he got up from his seat and went over to where she was seated and putting his nose which he said was as long as hers as close as possible to hers and said “Prime Minister, I am only a soldier. All I want to do is to serve my country. When I finish I will go back home. I have no inkling for politics or for any other government job”. The matter was settled and was never spoken about again."

http://www.asiantribune.com/news/2009/10/24/honour-heroes-war

දේශපාලුවා said...

Blogger priyashantha said...

Moshe Dayan,

I'm sorry I was pissed by what you said.

I still don't believe you. Just like me most Sri Lankans don't believe.

Okata api mini maraagena waedak naehe. Allala daapan bang.
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It donest matter, whether the corruption strories are true or false. What matters in SF's son in law is the main arms dealer/defence contractor to the Sri Lankan forces. Once crystal clear record of SF now has some murkyness in it.
May be Danuna is a honest guy and all the buisness was honest and straigt forwad, but the fact remains he was the arms dealer under his father in law.

Its going to be very hard for the common people to stomach this

This is exactly the kind of thing I was predicting.

In politics it doesnt matter whether the story is true or false what matters is the story is out there now.

We will see more and more stuff like this, and it will start to slowly erode the popularity of Fonsy.

Sad story.

දේශපාලුවා said...

ජනාධිපතිවරණයෙන් පරාජය වීමත් සමඟ ෆොන්සේකා මහතා දේශපාලන වශයෙන් අනාථයකු වනු ඇත. එපමණක්‌ නොව ඔහු ලබා ඇති කීර්තිය අපකීර්තියක්‌ බවට පත්වනු ඇත. ඉතිහාසයේ රන් අකුරින් ලියෑවීමට තරම් නමක්‌ තිබූ ෆොන්සේකා මහතා ඉතිහාසයේ කුණු කූඩයට විසිවනු ඇත. විජාතික බලවේග එමගින් අපේක්‍ෂා කරනුයේ ඒ මහතා ඉතිහාසයේ කුණු කූඩයට යෑවීම පමණක්‌ නොවේ. තමන්ගේ සියලු අපේක්‍ෂා සුන්කළ රණවිරුවන් අතර භේදයක්‌ ඇති කිරීමත් රණවිරුවන් හා ජනතාව අතර සිත් බිඳීමක්‌ ඇති කිරීමත් බටහිරයන්ගේ බලාපොරොත්තුව වෙයි.

මහාචාර්ය නලින් ද සිල්වා

දේශපාලුවා said...

මේ වන විට සරත් ෆොන්සේකා මහතා තම හමුදා නිල ධුරයෙන් ඉල්ලා අස්‌වීමට යවන ලද බව කියන ලිපිය පිළිගැනීමට ජනාධිපතිතුමා තීරණය කර ඇතැයි කියෑවෙයි. ඒ කළ යුත්තකි. එසේ නොකරන්නේ නම් ෆොන්සේකා මහතාගේ අපේක්‍ෂකත්වයට බියෙන් ජනාධිපතිතුමා ක්‍රියා කර ඇතැයි යන මතයක්‌ ගොඩනැඟීමට ඉඩ ඇත. එසේම ඒ මහතාට තරග නොකරන ලෙසට සංඝාඥ පැනවීමේ ද අවශ්‍යතාවක්‌ නැත. සංඝාඥවක්‌ පනවා ඒ මහතා තරගයෙන් ඉවත් කිරීමත් අනවශ්‍ය වන්නේ ඒ මහතාගේ පරාජය සහතික වන බැවිනි.

දේශපාලුවා said...

සරත් ෆොන්සේකා මහතා විශිෂ්ට හමුදා මෙහෙයුමක යෙදුණු බවට කිසිදු සැකයක්‌ නැත. එහෙත් ඒ මහතා ප්‍රභාකරන්ගේ මස්‌සිනාලාගේ පැත්තට ගියහොත් ඒ මහතා දිනා ඇති කීර්තිය දිය වී යනු ඇත. සිංහලයෝ තවමත් සිsංහලයකුගේ අතීතයට වඩා වර්තමානය සලකති. ඔවුන් කිසිවකු අගය කරන්නේ ඒ තැනැත්තාගේ අතීතයට වඩා වර්තමානය මත පදනම් වෙමිනි. ෆොන්සේකා මහතා දෙමළ ත්‍රස්‌තවාදය පරාජය කිරීමේ දී සුවිශේෂ කාර්යභාරයක්‌ ඉටුකළ ද ඔහු අද රනිල් වික්‍රමසිංහ මහතා සමඟ එක්‌වන්නේ නම් ඔහුගේ අතීත වික්‍රම දෙස ද අපහාසයෙන් බැලීම සිංහලයන්ගේ සිරිතය. ඒ සිංහල සංස්‌කෘතිය කිරි කළයට ගොම ටිකක්‌ එකතු කළා වැනිය. උදේ ඉඳන් වතුර ඇදල කළය බින්දා වැනිය. ආදී උපහැරණ සිංහලයන් නිර්මාණය කර ඇත්තේ මේ සංස්‌කෘතික රාමුවෙහිය.

දේශපාලුවා said...

මේ ආණ්‌ඩුවේ සියලු ක්‍රියා කොන්දේසි විරහිතව ආරක්‍ෂා කිරීම අපේ ද ප්‍රතිපත්තිය නොවේ. එහෙත් ජනාධිපතිවරණයේදී කොන්දේසි විරහිතව මහින්ද රාජපක්‍ෂ මහතාට සහාය දීම අපේ ප්‍රතිපත්තිය වෙයි.

මහාචාර්ය නලින් ද සිල්වා

Peter said...

In any campaign, both sides will be accused of corruption. But, for most people Fonseka would probably appear to be the better choice in this category.

The Son-in-Law case is still unproven. Further, as others have said, HICORP wasn't a major player in the arms procurement business. It was more in to surveillance and other partially civil side of military equipment.

Those who scream about the dangers to democracy from a retired officer contesting in elections are surprisingly silent about the politicisation of the military, the army in particular, as is happening here: http://www.army.lk/detailed.php?NewsId=1523

CASC said...

Moshe,

Forget about that stuff bro.

There will be more to come. Bank acct numbers, houses in various countries, etc. Assets beyond known income is the term used. It is tragic and sad that all of these discoveries have been have been made over night.

The people who are throwing stones should heed that well known passage from the new testatment "If any one of you is without sin, let him be the first to throw a stone at him."

Peter said...

I think a key issue in the polls would be trust between the existing leadership and the military.

Who was it exactly that Mahinda wanted Indian troops to battle against? For argument's sake, even if a few rouge officers were to stage a coup, wouldn't the rest of the Sri Lankan military have acted in the interest of democracy?

The act of asking for Indian military assistance against Sri Lankan troops may well be Mahinda's single biggest blunder.

No_MESS said...

Kevin said,
Peter, …
So you seems to have changed your stand recently. Why not ask your members to work for a corruption free united island and shun communal politics forever?


Hey look!

If you need more proof, please read DefenceNet March 25, 2008 12:54 AM
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Sam Perera said...

Deshapaluwa,

"ජනාධිපතිවරණයෙන් පරාජය වීමත් සමඟ ෆොන්සේකා මහතා දේශපාලන වශයෙන් අනාථයකු වනු ඇත. එපමණක්‌ නොව ඔහු ලබා ඇති කීර්තිය අපකීර්තියක්‌ බවට පත්වනු ඇත. ඉතිහාසයේ රන් අකුරින් ලියෑවීමට තරම් නමක්‌ තිබූ ෆොන්සේකා මහතා ඉතිහාසයේ කුණු කූඩයට විසිවනු ඇත. විජාතික බලවේග එමගින් අපේක්‍ෂා කරනුයේ ඒ මහතා ඉතිහාසයේ කුණු කූඩයට යෑවීම පමණක්‌ නොවේ. තමන්ගේ සියලු අපේක්‍ෂා සුන්කළ රණවිරුවන් අතර භේදයක්‌ ඇති කිරීමත් රණවිරුවන් හා ජනතාව අතර සිත් බිඳීමක්‌ ඇති කිරීමත් බටහිරයන්ගේ බලාපොරොත්තුව වෙයි."

I am not a fan of Nalin Silva, however this is a moment I agree with him.

Sam Perera said...

Farewell General Sir!

It is in a sense of sadness I write down here that you got fooled by the worst scum of Sri Lanka who ridiculed you for everything you did in the past.

දේශපාලුවා said...

It is now clear, the gen.s resignation letter was written by RW, Mangy and Mano.

The 16 point version of the top secret letter was leaked to the LTTE-UNP lankanewsweb and JVP lankatruth sites.

The presidential Secretariat released the 17point letter they revived from SF.

Talk about integrity

Where is Fonseka2010 guy when you need him?

දේශපාලුවා said...

Blogger priyashantha said...

Moshe ponna keriyo just don't spread rumours here against a war hero.

I defended you everywhere believing that you are a real patriot. Now I think you are a ballige putha armchair defence consultant. I can find you. You cannot hide behind a computer and save your sorry ass.
Delete the lies or face punishment.

Go lick Mahinda's ass asamathjaathaka paraya.

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Blogger priyashantha said.
Moshe Dayan,

I'm sorry I was pissed by what you said.

I still don't believe you. Just like me most Sri Lankans don't believe.

Okata api mini maraagena waedak naehe. Allala daapan bang.

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Moshe Dyan said...

kevin,

cheers, mate.

that explains why it is in short supply!!

Moshe Dyan said...

casc,

ok, bro.

"If any one of you is without sin, let him be the first to throw a stone at him"

i remember it as "throw a stone at her".

i'm an old testament guy but never mind. will not discuss it again unless contradictory public statements are made by them.

Moshe Dyan said...

priyasantha,

ok.

i will not drag it again unless the corrupt try to fool the ppl.

Moshe Dyan said...

i'm surprised how some LTTE terrorists who claimed to have got an "orgasm" when LTTE bombs killed civilians are now trying very hard to whitewash senior military guys.

now the LTTE is no more.

they have proven that they have no permanant friends or enemies. sleep with whoever comes their way.

Keshara-කේශර said...

MR’s political leadership, GR’s strategic manures and SF’s genius military planning saved the country from world’s most ruthless terrorist organisation. All three of them may be corrupted to varying degrees as usual. They all have proven leadership ability, admirable strengths, obvious weaknesses and most of all they were patriots compared to goons conniving with RW; at least up to now.

If they want to contest for the high office, so be it. Let voters to decide, who will be the best person to lead the nation for next 6-8 years.

MR has nothing much to prove and whole country knows where he stands with power, family, foreign policies and moral issues. If SF is going to contest; he has to come up with better manifesto than the incumbent and keep away from known traitors.

K @ K

දේශපාලුවා said...

Great investigative journalism MD, my hats off for you.

here is a direct link between Randy DeHoedt and Danuna Tillakaratne.

They seems to have a mutual friend called FJ Silva.

http://nl-nl.facebook.com/people/FJ-Silva/713728238

What are the chances of having two Randy DeHoedt in Sri Lanka. This is the first time I heard this name probably one for the whole world.

Danuna Tillakaratne in FB has the SL flag as his profile photo, the same falg used in SL defence sites.

What are the chances of a different Danuna Tillakaratne being a military loyalist? "Danuna" first time I heard that name even that is pretty unique.

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