Saturday, October 31, 2009

Sit Rep 31 Oct 2009

A cautionary note on the present situation re Gen Fonseka. Our task was to allow things to settle down on their own which has worked. However, recent developments led particularly by a section of the diaspora Sinhalese is a cause of concern for DefenceWire.

DefenceWire team's stance up to now has been to avoid commenting on this dispute knowing fully well the capacity of both the present government and SF to come to a compromise on:

1. The direction the Sri Lankan Military will take
2. The direction General Fonseka would have to go

These may not be the most ideal directions for either, yet they are ones that are at best described as realistic and unavoidable.

There are many moves by politically motivated Sri Lankans, including Sinhala groups and also non Sinhala Sri Lankan groups to exploit a disagreement that has unnecessarily spilled over into the public's eye due to politics in the military and a very small section of the military in politics.

These groups, particularly those civilians involved who are not insiders or have little inside information can or will not understand the discipline of a professional soldier to take what he wants and to relinquish duty when required sans insubordination.

A professional soldier is not Dutugemunu. The Sri Lanka Army/Military is a modern Army/Military positioned within a democratic society. The professional soldiers serving in it will know when to let go. By asking them to perform a larger role based solely on selfish motives of individuals in the periphery, they may destroy that soldier and even themselves and their reputation.

The Sri Lankan Military and its leaders are now hailed the world over for their victorious feat. Their role in bringing peace to the country through military means will be remembered for decades to come as the ultimate example of a trained military executing its sacred task flawlessly from start to finish. But remember this, dear readers, military action is a means of achieving the end and the end is always political.

DefenceWire, as an impartial site whose work you have witnessed for over 3 years now wish to appeal to our readers to refrain from joining or supporting either 'camps' and to allow the professional soldier and professional politicians to resolve potentially resolvable issues mentioned above.

Thank you

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Sam Perera said...

These are the heros's in Panhinda's inverted world.

(1) Thoppigala Wandura aka Ranil Wickramasinghe
(2) Pamankada Gona aka Ravi Karunananayke
(3) Madupalli Meeharaka aka Jayalath Jayawardena
(4) Yuddakaran Booruwa aka Lakshman Kiriella
(5) Gelevimehamudawe Pina aka Mangala Samaraweera

Unfortunately, General Fonseka was duped in to associating with this kind of top scum. I hope that he will get out of the evil spell soon.

Sam Perera said...

Sujeeva,

Even though I will not vote for SF for the reasons that he submits to terms and condition of top scum of Sri Lanka, I believe that he should be given all necessary protection. We shall never underestimate the tenacity of LTTE remnants in creating havoc in our Motherland. Furthermore, it will be very difficult for me to forget or forgive is something happens to General Fonseka due to politics.

Sujeewa Kokawala said...

Panhinda;

[[fyi, i chose any candidate who abolish exec prez, implement 17 amendment, COPE and PAC as i said before many times.]]

Sorry RW does not fit in this idea unless he takes up prez election. So why did you try selling me traitor RW?

OK then we have that other debate. In case SF wins the PE;

1. Do you think that SF will do these?

2. even if he wills, then how can he do that. It is against constitution. where is teh 2/3? Where is teh referendum?

3. What is your contingency plan for SF not doing this either deliberately or for constitutional reasons?

4. Exe prez is essential as long as there is pref votes. What is your take on this?

Pls do not sell RW again in your answer. Hope to see you taking teh points as is.

Thusitha said...

Sujeewa Kokawala said...
However, this morning at a media briefing Military Spokesman Brigadier Udaya Nanayakkara stated that General Sarath Fonseka has requested 01 Commando officer, 20 Commando other rankers, 03 officers and 50 soldiers of Sinha Regiment, 10 other Drivers and 05 members of Women Corps, 01 Bullet proof car, 03 Land rover jeeps, 01 Heavy vehicle, 01 Van, 26 seater bus.

--------------------------------
MR must be really stupid. He had to wait till SF make a complaint to the courts to do this.
If he had given what SF asked in the first place, he might have got the admiration of lot of voters. Only thing he achieved here is loss of few Sinahala voters who must be bit disgusted about he SF is being treated.

Even if SF decided to bat for the other side, SF should be provided with proper security. Really pathetic the way MR behaves. Wonder who are political advisers of MR, doesn't seem to have any common sense.

Sujeewa Kokawala said...

Sam;

He's given a lot pf protection. I happened to go past the so called opposite Royal college spot and it is heavily guarded.

But of course I don't know what loopholes are tehre, and I also agree that MOD has a huge obligation.

But, even if we allocate entire army, can they protect a man associating likes of Mano Gonasan?

Jambudipa said...

buddy sam,

JVP is sri lanka's moral compass.
towards the end of CFA when Ranil was neglecting national security and trinco harbour was in danger they forced CBK to dissolve the parliment.

now they are with UNP trying to force mr kurrankan to abolish exec pres.

although i dont agree with their economic policies, they have always stood for what is good for SL leaving out political agenda.

when in doubt always look for JVP for guidance.

Jambudipa said...
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Jambudipa said...

kokawala,

/*
In case SF wins the PE;
*/

people send a strong message what is expected of their leader with the election. if SF wins he knows he won because mahinda abused the privilege.

if SF does so too, he will be kicked out too in the next election wihout any hesitation. this is how it works in functioning democracies.

Sujeewa Kokawala said...

Panhinda;

Incomplete answer. For an ex, what about my questions about constitutional hurdles?

Jambudipa said...

kokawala,

/*
1. Do you think that SF will do these?
*/

yes

/*
2. even if he wills, then how can he do that. It is against constitution. where is teh 2/3? Where is teh referendum?
*/

it will obviously need to be a 2 step process. first they will need to reform propotional electorial system get a mandate then abolish exec prez. this will be a 12 or more year process. if this does not start now, we will have to suffer abuse of power and corruption for 50 or more years.

/*
3. What is your contingency plan for SF not doing this either deliberately or for constitutional reasons?
*/

impeachment.

/*
4. Exe prez is essential as long as there is pref votes. What is your take on this?
*/

reform of PE system is a pre-requistite.

Jambudipa said...

anyways im off.

CASC said...

Just some observations about Panhida's and Sujeewa's exchanges about the executive presidency:

1) Every President since the implementation of the executive presidency has displayed despotic tendencies (perhaps not Dingiri Banda). On the other hand carrying out an urgent national task like eliminating the LTTE could not have been done without the executive presidency.

2) In Sri Lanka there is no clear distinction between the executive and legislative since members of the cabinet of ministers are part of both executive and legislature. By giving 100+ members of parliament cabinet and non-cabinet ministerial portfolios, the present executive and previous incumbents have co-opted the legislature. Unlike the USA and other countries, Sri Lanka does not have a truly independent executive or an independent legislative branch. This means that parliament does not act as a check and balance against the excesses of the executive.

3) Even if the President does not have the 2/3 necessary to change the constitution previous presidents have exercised enormous power which under typical parliamentary systems are reserved for the legislature (changes made through extraordinary gazette notifications instead of legislation, proroguing parliament at will, etc)

4) While impeachment technically remains on the book it will never succeed in Sri Lanka given the resources available to the executive. The last time it was tried against Premadasa he bought off all the members (paid something like 4 million per person back then)

5) None of the executive presidents want to implement anything like the 17th amendment since it encroaches on their powers of appointment and powers of control. If the President wants any police investigation stopped, all he has to do is to call the IGP and that's the end of the matter.

6) It is not a normal human tendency for a person elected to any office vested with so much power to abolish his own office or to reduce the powers of his office.

My two cents on this matter is that the executive presidency will stay regardless of the desire of the parties out of power to abolish it.

Chinthana4Lions said...

Why cant we give white van ride to RW and mongala and crew?

I just cant belive that trators like this still live in our country. RW, gay king, and a puff, I have noticed that 99% who support RW is gay kind too, soo narrow minded aswel...

Praba is gone, I just wanna see RW dead body......and mongala and the rest of the crew....

SF...........ohh God..guy is going crazy....we gota stop him b4 do much damage to Sri Lanka....he will be the next Sadam Housain iof he becomes pres,,,,but no chance anyway....

bottom line is RW and SF gona loose, What I wanna see is a good opposition party, which will never happn in our life I guess...

Sam Perera said...

Panhinda,

"JVP is sri lanka's moral compass.
towards the end of CFA when Ranil was neglecting national security and trinco harbour was in danger they forced CBK to dissolve the parliment."


Now now my little terrorist, this is one of the most laughable statement I have heard so far from you. JVP's moral compass disoriented themselves so much, they made my life a misery along with many generations of in that time. I can go on for day, weeks, and months on how JVP fooled campus students to boycott classes against their will, anticipating an uprising against the government (UNP in that time) out of an artificially created crisis. Thanks to our brave warriors like Lucky Algama and Janaka Perera and some real statesmen like Ranjan Wijerathne we made out of that crisis created by JVP. End result was that many misguided youth were killed and a several generations lost several years of their youth. JVP killed many innocent civilians for the crime of exercising their constitutional voting rights. The present JVP has come a long way from that point, however they are anything but a moral compass.

B#1 said...

"Indian forces were put on alert"

As I said if this news comes stronger, MR lose his popularity rapidly among the people.

Times of India

Sujeewa Kokawala said...

Panhinda;

[[/*
1. Do you think that SF will do these?
*/

yes]]

I leave it for the sake of the arguments. However, SF shows all the signs of a power hungry dictator. Especially with constitution blocking this, he can make use of that very fact.

[[/*
2. even if he wills, then how can he do that. It is against constitution. where is teh 2/3? Where is teh referendum?
*/

it will obviously need to be a 2 step process. first they will need to reform propotional electorial system get a mandate then abolish exec prez. this will be a 12 or more year process. if this does not start now, we will have to suffer abuse of power and corruption for 50 or more years]]

Mate, if SF consumes exe powers for 12yrs, that contradicts your previous claim that he'd change exe prez in a short period like six months. Did you really miss the constitutional hurdle when you first entered this debate? If SF uses full 12 years of term, what is teh diff between him and MR in terms of exe powers, come on...

To change proportional electorate system alone you need all party consent. Secondly, in any other reasonable voting system SF will not get a overwhelming majority for required 2/3. So it finally falls into the place that all parties need to agree on this.

If all parties agree on this, obviously you don't need SF for the matter. Parliament [w/o exe president at all] can do the required change.

Also this entire process will take lot longer than UNP is suggesting. It will create a power crisis between SF and RW too.

You said 12 years for it. Come on this change will be fielded by MR in six more years if he wins this time. MR is planning to change constitution after he finishes his two terms. Like your plan for SF, he will also take all the advantage over two terms and then try to change it.

So w/o wasting effort and risking nation with anarchy and dictatorship, why don't you support MR in six years. Your plan is such a long way than that with too many uncertainties.



[[/*
3. What is your contingency plan for SF not doing this either deliberately or for constitutional reasons?
*/

impeachment.]]

Again needing 2/3 but agree that you have higher chance as SF has no base party. But did you consider the possibility of buying off MPs, with state money. Did you consider the possibility of abolishing parliament and dictatorship.

You do all these still to go thru 2/3 for the constitutional change. And you take 12 yrs. MR will do this in six years.

[[/*
4. Exe prez is essential as long as there is pref votes. What is your take on this?
*/

reform of PE system is a pre-requistite.]]

Indeed. Not only that; establishment of anti-separatism laws, finalizing whatever the solution for power distribution in SL [devolution/convolution or evolution], and setting up of a functional national security council, which has enough powers to safe guard SL over political bullshit.

You know what, after exe powers are granted for Premier, once ienn every five years mother lanka will be kept on the chopping board to gain parliamentary majority. Minority racists will have a jolly good time.

I am not opposing exe president until somebody brings a better solution. Mere exe premier is not one for me. It is a grave risk for our motherland.

Max Headroom said...

This post is especially for the viewing pleasure of Asithri alias Fukk(a)face.

Bro, I am straight as an Arrow, bhumiputhra from Sri Lanka. I think Sinhala profanity is not only colorful, it is also multi-faceted. Do you know what is "Kimisi Lamba". I hope you will not remember Raman Lamba and tell me that it is the name of an Indian girl. How about "Back and a Hoo".

Now Bro, explain to me what do you mean by LMSSAO?

Kari Balla, tho danna kunu harapayak katha karapan. Tho lankawata awothin, thoge bijja kapala, thel dala, kabarayinta kawanawa.

Min passe me blog eke ekama, eka kariyekgewath amma gana katha karanna baa.

Bro, see how a Bhumiputhra can use the local language. Just because you are in the US or pretending to be a die hard Sinhalaya, you just cannot call a Sinhalaya like me or a Tamil, Sri Lankan with any filth, to get your point across. You should be like Ananda-USA or Moshe or Sam.

Max B. Headroom

Write to me to know what B stands for ;)

When you shit on your doorstep, the smell blows in

Sam Perera said...

Off Topic,

Can somebody help me to find the lyrics for the following songs.

(1) I Believe this is Nanda Malini's
Sinhala Haalay Batha Pisina Suwandin
Gepelak Gaane Wilawun Ganwanada
......
Apa Wasana Mae Sinhala Deshay
Khethumathinma Rajadhaniyai

(2) I believe this is also Namda malini's

Ranruwan Polothalay .. mandiray

(3) Singer could be Nanda Malini or Amaradeva

Numbata Ratak Etha Puthinay,
Numbata Deyak Etha Puthnay,
Kohegiyath Kumakkarath Urumaya Numbatai Puthuney....

Sujeewa Kokawala said...

For those who support the plan of RW/Mongala to put SF for PE and then abolish exe presidency; pls answer my Qs.

1. Do you think that SF will do these?

2. even if he wills, then how can he do that. It is against constitution. where is teh 2/3? Where is teh referendum?

3. What is your contingency plan for SF not doing this either deliberately or for constitutional reasons?

4. Exe prez is essential as long as there is pref votes. What is your take on this?

Panhinda so far answered them. Do we have anymore who thinks taht SF shud win and abolish exe prez, leaving exe premier in RW's hand?

tata said...

SK, Moshe, and others,
How do you think it will affect the PE results if a PE candidate declares that s/he will implement EI?

Me thinks it's not a good idea to put this forward.

tata said...

Or put it diffently and more proactively,
How can we include EI in PE campaigns?

Moshe, I am counting on your mind on this one.

Sujeewa Kokawala said...

Re: Mahen

Anyone knowing the latest info about Mahen? Anyone noting his enigmatic disappearance?

Mahen left defence blogs putting its blame on me. The crime I did was to tell him in most decent language not to toy with us but tell the news. It was most surprising that the man who walk on thorn couldn't bear the feather touch. And it simply says not so at all. It wasn't me.

Mahen left blogging circle due to some other reason which is beyond our capacity to understand, and perhaps the right [by his view]. And it so coincided with general's departure and general's S-I_L's exposure.

In plain English; Is Mahen Dhanuna Tilakeratne?

Note Dhanuna was a software engineer, and no baby for web magic. Mahen had a connection with Ambalangoda, at least one of them was from there.

Having said that I am not against either of the characters SF, Dhanuna and Mahen. SF of course still my war hero. Dhanuna's alleged bullet supply does not blow any gaskets in me, as long as they did not overkill our soldiers. Moshe stated few such cases, but I'm not adding Dhanuna to paahara balu list until proven. Until proven he remains as a part of the winning team. So is Mahen. The magic he did with tender pussycat hearts remain a legend.

But the swan song was so synthetic and I plead not guilty for my part in it, which leaves me with a suspicion over connections.

Sujeewa Kokawala said...

tata;

[[How do you think it will affect the PE results if a PE candidate declares that s/he will implement EI?]]

Kiyala karana wedath thiyenava. Karala kiyana wedath thiyenaava. Meke prathipalaya straight forward. No need to even waste a single word on this. Do it and prove.

Ananda-USA said...

Sujeewa,

Good analysis of MR's support, although I think RW has much less than the 20% Sinhala base you allocated to him.

You also said SF's problems are:

"- back stabbing by UNP
- Skeptism from minority ppl in UNA
- His own mouth
- Corruption allegations
- Possibility of RW contesting even after SF accepting CC
- Major cross over from UNP/TNA to govt."

This misses the #1 reason why people will not vote for SF: They just don't like his abandoning the war-winning GOSL and joining KNOWN traitors! On this basis, the only alliance acceptable to most people is the JVP (M) link.

THAT IS WHY he will fail big-time!

Sujeewa Kokawala said...

Ananda;

[[Good analysis of MR's support, although I think RW has much less than the 20% Sinhala base you allocated to him]]

Sadly it is. In the distant uva and south he still retained 20%. These are almost all sinhala votes. Plus in COlombo and Kandy he has vast reserves of Kepuwath kola ppl.

My idea is there is a 25% kapuwath kola, and ~5% of them DO NOT vote as they hate RW. Rest will vote and work hard for RW. Most of them [whom I live with] were waitng for Fatpig to give MR a knockout punch [with any number of SLDF death which they never cared for] and that to bring RW to power. For them party comes first. Most of them had NO significant gain achieved via UNP. RW don't even know them. Still the religiously support.

Most ppl who live around me are of this type, sadly.

[[This misses the #1 reason why people will not vote for SF: They just don't like his abandoning the war-winning GOSL and joining KNOWN traitors! On this basis, the only alliance acceptable to most people is the JVP (M) link]]

Sorry, I was talking about the probs in retaining the anti-Mr 40%. Yes this is the main problem in getting any of MR votes. It is like a rule 0, and I didn't mention at all.

[[THAT IS WHY he will fail big-time!]]

Yes indeed. If 1mill votes move SF has a good chnace, but I see no movement at all. Will be surprised even if 100k moves [1%].

Ananda-USA said...

Sam Perera said...

"Twenty First Century CE:

A man called Prabakaran who portrayed him in front of the Chola insignia was ravaging our Motherland with untold terror. We were about to surrender to Prabakaran due to weak and poor leadership who was ever ready to dance for whims and fancies of western powers who wants to enslave us forever. A leader name Mahinda Rajapakse vanquished the terrorist and sent western apes back home. Just like the times of Dutugemunu and Vijayabahu, having restored our backbone, we started walking our heads up straight. Unders the leadership of Mahinda Rajapakse, we learned that we have done things many others believed to be impossible. Once again, we have become an independent nation. Now that we have gained independence, it is the time to let Mahinda Rajapakse develop the nation.

Niwahal Sithuwili Sithana Sithak Udarai,
Niwal Nimawun Mawana Sithak Udarai,
Ewan Asirimath Jathiya Jayen Udarai!!!"

Well said, my brother! WELL SAID, Indeed!

ConspiracyTheory said...

Prepare for overlapping elections

NOLTTE=Peace said...

Asian Tribune article's headlines tells it all "fired on innocent Tamil civilians...."

Read carefully guys.

Identify your enemy!

Max Headroom said...

Dear Patriots,

I am elated Asithri has gone under the blanket!

Folks, most of you seems to be non-resident Sri Lankans.

Just assume MR wins the PE and then merges N-E province because he will have to give up that part to India when he has given the under belly to China. US will have middle ground so that you folks could come and go.

And our beloved Prez is going to do an about turn and umm ..... become dictatorial. He will try to do willy nilly what he could not accomplish in his first sojourn, with a 100+ caninet to boot because he knows come 6 years, he has to go but then family comes first, we poor Sri Lankans will come last.

But you folks who are outside the country will enjoy perks in living democracies where Leaders are accountable to the governed.

May you all attain Nibbana!

Sujeewa Kokawala said...

Max;

[[I am elated Asithri has gone under the blanket!

Folks, most of you seems to be non-resident Sri Lankans.

Just assume MR wins the PE and then merges N-E province because he will have to give up that part to India when he has given the under belly to China. US will have middle ground so that you folks could come and go.

And our beloved Prez is going to do an about turn and umm ..... become dictatorial. He will try to do willy nilly what he could not accomplish in his first sojourn, with a 100+ caninet to boot because he knows come 6 years, he has to go but then family comes first, we poor Sri Lankans will come last.

But you folks who are outside the country will enjoy perks in living democracies where Leaders are accountable to the governed.]]


Day dreaming???

In a big way mate.

Sujeewa Kokawala said...

good analysis by minister

This is the kinda debate we need. Not the filth like the vomit of the stray dog Mervin.

Repeating, SF is a hero regardless him accepting CC. Handle with due respect everybody.

Sam Perera said...

Max_Headroom,

Are you going bonkers? Do you have any idea of the standing somebody has in the Sinhala society when that person is considered more heroic than Gamini Abhaya? If you really want to know how Sri Lankan thinks, I suggest you travel around the country and talk to the common man.

Sam Perera said...

Sujeeva,

That was a well articulated speech by Maithripala Sririsena. He speaks well for the fact that SF was duped by top scum of Sri Lanka.

Sam Perera said...

Sujeeva,

Back to MS speech, they are doing a great job in speaking to the common man. I hope that they will keep the message sharp to the point. The only sad part is that SF, who I consider to be an outstanding hero of my nation, is going to be the loser.

Sujeewa Kokawala said...

Actually the most critical Q I have in the whole mishmash of PE/SF/CC affair is what will SF do after much certain defeat.

Will he continue? If so how? To my knowledge SF is not a member of UNP and likely never to be given. He's likely to contest with makeshift symbols so there is no existence for his political party.

Idelaly I wish to see him bring HIS OWN team and found a party with its own agenda. Contest GE get some seats and join the fitting side. If he is a "normal" man nnot worshipping an ideology and he can find some good ppl [hopefully veterans] and come up with a good genuine plan [not something ghost written by UNA], he can not only improve with votes, but also can send RW/UNP and JVP into insignificance.

After 60s we have never had party other than UNP/SLFP winning major seats. JVP's 15 and TNA's 20+ are the best so far.

Main reason is because we have only two normal parties. Rest have too many theories and nobody wills to support.

deathrow said...
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kevin said...

I am glad that the police have caught up with the murders of SSP Charles Wijewardane who murdered on the same day that Kadiar was killed.he died a gruesome death and should be avenged in a similar manner.His murderers were just animals.So sad to see his mutilated body in Kurunagala.

CASC said...

Sujeewa Kokawala said...

Re: Mahen
In plain English; Is Mahen Dhanuna Tilakeratne?

Sujeewa,

Mahen mentioned places in the UK in his posts where as Tilakeratne is US-based, so I think there is no connection.

Mahen wanted everyone to move over from this blog to his Ellalan Forces blogspot.

He seems to have disappeared after he conducted that popularity contest. He may have taken it seriously but everyone here snubbed him by voting for Jay and Peter, two of the leading eelamists on this site.

Regardless, Mahen did his patriotic duty during the war by planting false stories about non-existent LTTE formations, army combat victories and about senior LTTE leaders who defected to the government. Some of these stories made it into the mainstream press.

deathrow said...

listen to this and give ur comments

A tribute to physically challenged soldiers in SriLanka!!!

Mahen said...

Blog updated.

http://ellalanforce.blogspot.com/

Keshara-කේශර said...

I have a question for all patriots:
What retired General Sarath Fonseka really wants?
1. Is it to clean the country by eliminating corruption? Or;

2. Resettle all displaced people quickly and unite the country for development.

3. Vengeance and retribution exacted for himself by Rajapakshe; or

4. Promote him to the centre of power to fulfil personal ambitions; or

5. Is there any other sinister things looming up which we are not aware?

6. Or all of above!

What he really wants?

Mahen said...

New post available.

Sam Perera said...

Keshara,

Put you in his boots assuming you did your honest bit to serve the nation. Think that you are a famous and highly regarded soldier in Sri Lanka. Then think that you had to quit because you felt that the government mistreated you. What are the options you have.

(1)Retire like a hero and stay in minds and hearts of people til the time ends.

(2)You think that the direction government goes is dangerous to the very cause you almost gave your life. Therefore, you want to run a government of diehard patriots.

(3)You are pissed off with your boss for ill treatment and you want to settle the score even by joining the unpatriotic scum you fought so hard against.

I have my own answer, but I will let you find your.

Keshara-කේශර said...

Sam,
Well said mate. I also have my own answer!

It is bit of your 1 plus 2 and very much of 3.

Whatever, happens; I know one thing for sure. If he ever to become the next president; present army commander will go home and Chandrasiri will be the new army commander.

Cheers.

Keshara-කේශර said...

Sam,

I also think; he will never do anything that bad to get into your JPB list.

CASC said...

Keshara,

Most psycologists say that every human being starts with basic needs (food, housing,job,prestige recognition, money). Once a person comes to a certain stage in life and all these needs are met, then he goes for higher things in life. The final stage is like nirvana, where the person wants to do good to his fellow mankind. I think the motivations of President MR and General SF are basically good.

Moshe Dyan said...

sk and casc,

good points there.

i'm sure these will be (with less clarity) will be discussed in political circles.

Moshe Dyan said...

sam,

agree with your historical analysis except this part.

"Second Century BCE:

When the Colas"

elara is not a representative of the chol(er)as. he is from the chol(er)a kingdom of tamil madu but that does not make him a chol(er)a.

IF he were a chol(er)a, we would have GENOCIDE his crowd as we did with the chol(er)a invaders in 1070AD. that was classic textbook GENOCIDE which was then a well accepted war method.

but we went soft with elara bcos he was a humane king (albeit a threat to SL's national security and territorial integrity) which no one can dispute.

Keshara-කේශර said...

CASC,

Agree mate, but.....

Excerpts from Lanka Guardian -

// I have never failed in my life, General Fonseka
“I will always do all I can to fulfil the aspirations of the people,” the General said.//

First may be true but the next is doubtful. I get goose bumps when people start talking about fulfilling aspirations of the common. It can be that the person is suffering from God complex or expressing an utter lie to get what he wants.
However, one thing is for sure; he is trying desperately to accomplish something which we do not know yet.

Moshe Dyan said...

tata,

good point.

BUT i'm going to disappoint you.

at an election there is LITTE we can do with EI/C. the best way to use it is BEFORE the election. ppl want its benefits but are generally unwilling to make the move.

Moshe Dyan said...

casc,

maslow's hierachy of human needs is TOO BROAD in this case. it can be applied to every retired govt servant/public servant too. but NONE of them are going to contest for the PE.

there got to be a more INDIVIDUAL SPECIFIC motivation.

1. "policy disagreement with MR on resolving the potential threats to national security" is how i put it, diplomatically.

2. but vengence seems to be a strong reason too.

3. and other points listed by keshara.

which is more powerful, 1, 2 or 3 remains to be seen.

දේශපාලුවා said...

Blogger Moshe Dyan said...

elara is not a representative of the chol(er)as. he is from the chol(er)a kingdom of tamil madu but that does not make him a chol(er)a.


MD, some time ago Prof. Nalin de Silva, showed that elara is from Persia.

Remember there is a theory by another prof at Governor state university in Illinois saying that Dravidian originate in Africa and later migrated to India via Persia.


http://www.scribd.com/doc/16533060/Clyde-Winters-Are-Dravidians-of-African-Origin

Keshara-කේශර said...

CASC/MD,
We need to consider all factors in order to see the picture clearly:

Retired general SF is a brave, determined and courageous soldier but he couldn’t have accomplished what he achieved in the war against terrorism without the political will of MR and nitty-gritty of GR’s coordination. Most of all bravery of commandos and their senior officers did their part to the letter.

Therefore, it is not reasonable for one person to ask for full dividends.

However, if his intentions are Nobel then I will salute him.

Moshe Dyan said...

a tribute to mentally challenged soldiers in SriLanka

dear soldier, you sacrificed your sanity for the motherland
you cannot be thanked enough for you a hero of another stand
know your limits and know your strengths, dear soldier
so that you will not, not in any way make yourself a joker

Keshara-කේශර said...

We all know who MR, what he is capable of is and wide spread support he receive from other people including his close family members. We also know he is not clean as a whistle but got few skeletons in his cupboard.

However, well known horse is safer than unknown mustang when stakes are high.

Swarnajith Udana said...

Why is Mano Ganeshan seems to have pleased with SF's candidacy?w

Swarnajith Udana said...

Why are many LTTE organisations who were cursing SF now serenading his candidacy? (If the report by Keerthi Warnakulasuriya is correct.)

Keshara-කේශර said...

SU,

Simple reason; all separatists want infighting within the patriotic camp to weaken the stand against so called Tamil aspirations.

Praising SF will definitely help them to divide patriotic opinions to succeed in their goals.

Keshara-කේශර said...

SU,
Simple reason; all separatists want infighting within the patriotic camp to weaken the stand against so called Tamil aspirations.

Praising SF will definitely help them to divide patriotic opinions to succeed in their goals.

Swarnajith Udana said...

Three or four months back if I were to select an Army General I would have opted for Mr. SF. There would have been no contest from Mr. MR since MR has no military experience and SF has proved his might.

Now if I were to select an Army general I would abstain from voting since Mr. MR has no military experience and Mr. SF has demonstrated non-democratic tendencies in many ways and shown that he could wed the Devil just to achieve his selfishly personal ambitions.

If I were to select the President from MR. SF , Mr. RW and Mr. MR, there is no contest from either MR. RW and Mr. SF Since

 Mr. RW is a traitor.

 Mr. SF has no any political experience. He needs to prove his mantle as a worthy politician coming through grass roots.

 I would vote for MR this time and wait until middle of his next term.


Then I will send a petition to King Yama of Hell, pleading Yama to give Mr. MR an award for spearheading defeat of LTTE under extremely difficult circumstances. For instance:

• RW was doing everything possible to save LTTE.

• Somebody (who could have been even closer to the government) was doing brutal killings of editors etc, According to President's word "hariyata mata gahawwa wage (This is an attack on myself not on anybody else). Somebody was trying to make life hard for the government and hoping for its fall.

• "As I am addressing international forums, some thing untoward happens to editors and human right activists." Agian somebody closer to the Government( maybe, maybe not) waw playing mischief.

• Then the foreign pressure,

• threat of defection of MPs to the other side which could have brought down the government. If that happened then there would have been no SRI LANKA except ILLAMKA.

• Indian pressure

• Trade Union pressure

• After playing a Houdini act with the International safety net created by Mr. RW that shackled the government and many other trickery situation


The award reads: You (MR) deserve eternal gratitude from Sri Lankan people but not eternal vote from them.

My pleading to Yama continues: After giving the award to MR. MR send him (MR) to the Katu Imbula (A tortuous method used by Yama to punish sinners according to Sinhala-Buddhist myths) for millions of years.

This Katu Imbula treatment is for failing to carry forward the marvellous victory achieved for the Nation by him (with support of many including GR, SF and soldiers) to uplift the Nation.

My pleas ends with the plea:

Billion years of Katu Imbula for Ranil/Mangala and million years of Katu Imbula for SF

Of Course SF, after seeing how RW and other evil forces are going to benefit from his foolishness and the humiliation he is about to suffer, SF might withdraw his candidacy. In that case "Katu Imbula" plea for him will be withdrawn.

"I have never failed in my life." The General.

This is very dangerous that he has failed to fail. Even Buddha failed in his journey of enlightenment. Then he gave up austerity then embarked on the path of middle.


Thanks!

Swarnajith Udana

Swarnajith Udana said...

Yes Keshara That is true.

IF SF were not intelligent enough to see this then he must not become the President of Sri Lanka.

I doubt that he is not intelligent enough.

So he is intelligent enough but does not care enough about this division.

Therefore he has already become a traitor and should not become the President of Sri Lanka.

Sam Perera said...

SU and Keshera,

I am hard pressed to call SF a traitor. The word traitor means a lot to me. If SF gets top scum to agree on his terms, not top scum terms, he is an imposer of patriotic will. However, if SF succumb to whims and fancies of tops scum (Ranil, Mangala, Mano, Rauf etc.) in his greed of power, then I am ready to call him a patriot-turned-traitor. At that point, SF literally looses his appeal to the majority and becomes another useless man who used to be a great man. The nation will lose an outstanding hero forever. I dearly hope that we will not have to get there.

Keshara-කේශර said...

Sam,
You voiced exactly my stand on this issue. We must wait and see.

However, waiting game is very painful when the outcome is going to be either betrayal of the trust or astonishing patriotism and sheer ingenuity.

Sam Perera said...

Second Century BCE:

When the Cholas were ravaging our Motherland the Sinhala kingdom was limited to a small area in the South due very weak leadership. A prince named Gamini Abhaya restored sovereignty by chasing the invaders. He restored our dignity and backbone. Even after 2200 years, the warrior king Dutugemnu's name resonates in Sinhala minds.

Eleventh Century CE:

In the peak of Chola empire the Sinhala kingdom was limited to a small area in the South due very weak leadership. A prince named Kirthi restored sovereignty by chasing the invaders. Having restored our dignity and backbone, we started walking again with our heads straight up. Even after 1000 years, the warrior king Vijayabahu's name resonates in Sinhala minds.

Twenty First Century CE:

A man called Prabakaran who portrayed him in front of the Chola insignia was ravaging our Motherland with untold terror. We were about to surrender to Prabakaran due to weak and poor leadership who was ever ready to dance for whims and fancies of western powers who wants to enslave us forever. A leader name Mahinda Rajapakse vanquished the terrorist and sent western apes back home. Just like the times of Dutugemunu and Vijayabahu, having restored our backbone, we started walking our heads up straight. Under the leadership of Mahinda Rajapakse, we learned that we have done things many others believed to be impossible. Once again, we have become an independent nation. Now that we have gained independence, it is the time to let Mahinda Rajapakse develop the nation in the same tenacity he vanquished the terrorists.

Niwahal Sithuwili Sithana Sithak Udarai,
Niwal Nimawun Mawana Sithak Udarai,
Ewan Asirimath Jathiya Jayen Udarai!!!

Keshara-කේශර said...

.....Yaso kelum wara jothiya pinen udarai.....

Moshe Dyan said...

sam,

again.

don't brand elara (2nd century BCE)into the chol(er)a lot. he was not part of the chol(er)a agenda.

when we talk about dutugemunu we also talk about,
1. gotabhaya
2. velu sumana
3. gotaimbara
4. suranimala
5.
6.
7.
8.
9.
10.

dutugemunu fought the war himself!!

so did vijayabahu.

there are parallels to them in modern SL. but the closest we get is MR.

along with MR comes,
1. GR
2. SF
3. WK
4. RG
5. KW
6. VM
7.
8.
9.
10.

following the war some guys with the dutu gemunu camp fell out with each other. but the good king continued.

a MASSIVE process of COLONIZATION was launched throughout the country.

another big process of spiritual upliftment was carried out.

what happened to these now?????

Moshe Dyan said...

can anyone help me complete the list of 10 great giants???

5-10???

we can do a ROUGH comparison.

Keshara-කේශර said...

MD,

I remember

Nandimithra and

Welayuda

Sunil Koswatta said...
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Sunil Koswatta said...

Nandimithra
Suranimala
Maha Sona
Gotaimbara
Thera Puthabaya
Bharana
Velu Sumana
Kancha Deva
Pussa Deva
Labiya Vasabha

Moshe Dyan said...

thank you mr. bond.

Keshara-කේශර said...

007,
As I remember, Mahasen aka Ritigala Jayasena became Mahaona later. Also Bharana is astrologer and mathematician.
What about Pullasthi? As I vaguely remember he was one of the Dasa Maha Yodayo’s.
Any way thanks Bond;

Moshe Dyan said...

a ROUGH approximation

Nandimithra - nimal lewke and STF
Suranimala - sarath fonseka
Maha Sona - LRRP/DPU/unspecified warriors
Gotaimbara - gotabhaya rajapaksha
Thera Puthabaya - sarath weerasekera and the CDF
Bharana - SMDA rajapaksha and the commando regiment
Velu Sumana - wasantha karannagoda
Kancha Deva - roshan gunatilake
Pussa Deva - HP ranasinghe and special forces
Labiya Vasabha - kingsley wickramaratne

gamini abhaya - mahendra rajapaksha from the south

Moshe Dyan said...

obviously there is no parallel WHATSOEVER for vihara maha devi other than motherlanka herself.

there was a TSUNAMI one year b4 gamini abaya was born.

freaky!!

plans are afoot to build 9 buddhist temples in 9 provinces which is somewhat similar to 100- budhist temples built by gamini abhaya.

sadda tissa - no parallel
saliya - now that is interesting!!

Keshara-කේශර said...

MD,
You got it all wrong man! Lalith Jayasnghe isn’t it, if my memory is correct he should be the Gotaimbara the #1 patriot who gave his life to save others.

As far as I am concerned Mahasen became Mahasona because of unnecessary fight and got his head fixed back in the wrongway. Therefore let’s call Sarath Fonseka as the Mahasona.

I also think Chula Dias should be the Welusumana.

LOL!

Asithri said...

ha ha ha...

So finally I see that MaxFuckhead came here and defecated - almost three days later after my bro FF tickled his balls with a wire brush!

Way to go...so it took this sankara-paraya 3 days to either figure out how to write, or get help, on how to write Sinhela phonetics in English???

LMSSAO!!! Truly LMSSAO!!!

Ado para RW=TNA=LTTE sakkili-sankara balla, nice try...but sadly, it had didly impact on me (why? because areshole WE rule SL today! :-))

To me you are an awajathaka para wesa balla...so, I will let my bro FF handle you in his own way.

FF over to you malli...malli, mey "para-deshi" balu-kukkagey kahuttha kapala achcharu karapan okay?

LMSSAO!!! Truly LMSSAO!!!

OaO Asithri

p.s. patriots, I expected this type of RW=TNA=LTTE bitch to come in tantrums after me here after I had posted my earlier submissions...but whoa, I did not expect this type of "me no speak Sinhalese" sankaraya too, to come here and that too by posting borrowed Sinhela words! Yep, I know who this traitorous bitch is. He will be "taken care of" with soothing "ethnic harmony" balm in due course.

Asithri said...

PaanHingana

[i can show you many resons why Ranil/UNP/SF is the best candidate for the coming phase. if only i had some more time!]

RW=TNA=LTTE Para-wesa, why don’t you ask for another CFA with the LTTE whores….that way you can have all the time you need!

LMSSAO!!! Truly LMSSAO!!!

OaO Asithri

Asithri said...

SK

[SF winning a 50%+ alone, is surely out of all odds for me. And on that grounds I call that he is used as a pawn and will be dumped]

Well said. This exactly what is going to happen. For his sake, let's hope:

1) He still has his Green Card in valid status to flee to the USA

2) Danuna has stashed enough $$$Millions abroad for him to live in comfort (as in SL, he will be venerated as much as Don Juan was long ago).

OaO Asithri

Asithri said...

WORTH REPEATING

By Sam:

Twenty First Century CE:

A man called Prabakaran who portrayed him in front of the Chola insignia was ravaging our Motherland with untold terror. We were about to surrender to Prabakaran due to weak and poor leadership who was ever ready to dance for whims and fancies of western powers who wants to enslave us forever. A leader name Mahinda Rajapakse vanquished the terrorist and sent western apes back home. Just like the times of Dutugemunu and Vijayabahu, having restored our backbone, we started walking our heads up straight. Unders the leadership of Mahinda Rajapakse, we learned that we have done things many others believed to be impossible. Once again, we have become an independent nation. Now that we have gained independence, it is the time to let Mahinda Rajapakse develop the nation.

Niwahal Sithuwili Sithana Sithak Udarai,
Niwal Nimawun Mawana Sithak Udarai,
Ewan Asirimath Jathiya Jayen Udarai!!!

Sam, beautifully done!!!

Cheers,

OaO Asithri

Asithri said...

GOLDEN WORDS

There is no point of you telling me how good RW is, or me telling you how bad he is. We can agree to disagree. So let me volunteer out of the debate of RW's value for SL, as I see it as below zero. RW is not someone I'd even consider for a debate. Traitor->gallows. The End


Truly fine! Truly superlative!!!

:)) :)) :))

OaO Asithri

Asithri said...

COVETED, OAOA "JEM OF THE DAY" AWARD!

But, even if we allocate entire army, can they protect a man associating likes of Mano Gonasan?


wow!

wow indeed!!!

Not to mention rubbing shoulders with the avowed LTTE whore-dogs in TNA?

OaO Asithri

Moshe Dyan said...

kk,

jayasinghe was from the SF.

there are plenty of others but only the name of the SF head is in.

same goes for JCD. he was serving under SF, so SF was named.

as re: maha sona/mahasen, that is trivial.

i have ommited donald perera bcos at that time he was performing an admin role under GR.

the important thing is we too have a 10 arm defence establishment which cannot be a coincidence.

Asithri said...

PaanGulla said:

[JVP is sri lanka's moral compass]

wow!

Here we have a formerly rabidly anti-JVP mommafucker (who loved RW Ponna's Batalanda massacre of unarmed JVP boys/girls) now coming and preaching the virtues of JVPers!!!

Hey amma-huka RW=TNA=LTTE bitch, are you always this dysfunctional or is it only on mid-week?

LMSSAO!!! Truly LMSSAO!!!

:)) :)) :))

OaO Asithri

Moshe Dyan said...

OAOA,

yes.

there is no point giving even 1,000 SF protection to SF if he associates proven terrorists like mano gona.

outward security cannot defeat inside jobs!!

best example:

nepal king's family massacre

Asithri said...

Moshy

[best example: nepal king's family massacre]

Indeed. I am sure this is what is going to happen in SL. When it happens, of course, IC will blame MR GOSL, but then we can always point to the precedence of the same in Nepal's royal family.

When you sleep with stry dogs, you end up dead as fellow stray dogs can bite off your liver!

LMSSAO!!! Truly LMSSAO!!!

OaO Asithri

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FukkFace said...

Asithri aiya,

leave this Max-Fukkhead to me. Yeah, his mother wants to give me Head but I keep telling her to come after brushing teeth.

hehehehe

Yes I was the one who alerted you to his presence in the blog and as we discussed, I will deal with him now that you have shoved a koss-gatey up his arse.

Hehehehe

Yep aiya I did my research on the hooker and found that this is the same RW=TNA=LTTE, ½ Lansi, ½ Tamil ex-SLA discharged (dishonorable as his wounds were found to be self-inflicted) motherfukker who once used to come in these blogs and utter filth against Buddhism and Buddhist Sinhalas. Yes, during the war his Lansi father was wearing a frock and carrying the Cross with one hand and a pic of Prabhakaran with the other hand and screaming for “peace.” His racist Tamil wesa-amma, of course, was giving her arse in Kotahena to all the senior SLA officers, hoping to pick up on intelligence (but was never successful).

So aiya, go easy on this para-balla……he has no stake in the survival of SL as a nation and he is actually a parasite, a dog tick!

CASC said...

Gents,

Off topic, in the land of the Buddha a terrible ritual is taking place. (see slide show)

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/gallery/2009/nov/24/nepal-hinduism

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/nov/24/hindu-sacrifice-gadhimai-festival-nepal#history-byline

It is believed by the devotees that the only way that the Hindu Goddess of power can be appeased is by ritual sacrifices.

It seems in Sri Lanka we have started another ritual blood letting among two groups to appease another angry goddess.

Asithri said...

FF,

Aha, yes malli moo thamai mama umbalata kiyapu para wesa, sankara balla. Moota wedak denna kal dhen (api eka gena katha karamu passey)

Habai malli methana kaalay naasthi karanna epa...thesis ekay weda karanna nuwanin, hondin.

Greets mate...

OaO Asithri

Sujeewa Kokawala said...

Asithri;

Thanks for the award.

Moshe;

Saddha thissa = BR

when father was ruling he was in opposition of gamunu. but when he found bro's noble motives he left handling war in bro's hand and continued economic development. firstly he developed southern bentota, found the city [you have ruins even today] and then moved to diga madulla for grand irrigation plans. diga madulla was either a territory saved by gamunu, or a border.

incidentally he reigned after gamunu.

also note that there was no northern colonization, but mostly a southern one like in bentota.

Moshe Dyan said...

sk,

"also note that there was no northern colonization, but mostly a southern one like in bentota."

that was bcos the north was VERY populated by a group of ppl called sinhelas at that time!! there was no need to colonize it.

Sam Perera said...

"Sam, beautifully done!!!"

Thanks Asithri. It is very important that we counter top scum these days.

Swarnajith Udana said...

Angulimal can become Ahinskas; Then we treat Ahinsaka as Ahinsaka.

Ahinsaka can become Angulimala.

Then we treat Angulimala as Angulimala.

Every moment is a moment for us to prove ourselves,:are we Ahinsaka or Angulimalas?

Whatever we are we should accept the consequences of our behaviour.

This goes for anybody, Mr. SF, MR. MR; anybody.

Thanks!

B#1 said...

Sam,

"Twenty First Century CE:"

Very well said. But its incomplete. What if you add the present and the future too. I mean become "puppet of India".

Swarnajith Udana said...

The defeat of LTTE is not yet complete.

There is much more to go about this task.

To complete the task, we need a President who does not give into
International pressure Who can smartly withhold the pressure.

We need at lease four more years
to create a stable Sri Lanka.

AT that time, it would not matter small detours; Sri Lanka will get back to the right path wiht minimum cost.

At this time even a minimum digression can cost too much to the Nation.

Anybody who stands for the sovereignty of the Nation needs to understand that and act accordingly

Especially the President needs to respond with magnanimity and patience. He should resit to be provoked.

Sam Perera said...

B#1,

"Puppet of India"

A friend may be, not a puppet ever. He eats the same kurakkan Dutugemunu, Parakramabahu, Keppetipola etc ate. After all it is very unlikely for a southern lion to be a puppet of India.

Jambudipa said...

'I alone can abolish executive presidency; I alone need to do so'

-island

rajapake want to abolish exec prez?

is it going to be like the '3-man comittee' appinted to look into rupavahini employee attacks? mathar fakar given enough lanu no one can belive the charlatan any longer.

the oppositin have released a book 25 year plan in detail. where is govt plan? where is the vision? even if modaya can conjure up some bullshit vision, my feeling it too little too late.

not sure what moron decided to have prez election now. is rajapaske popularity decreasing? yes definetelty, but popularity of Gen. SF out of limelight would have deteriorated faster. few modaya's advising rajapake as usual.

the oppostition slogan should be along the lines of 'new leadership for new year' given its in janurary.

Jambudipa said...

"Government confident President can defeat Fonseka at polls"

video - dm

nice language skills but no substance. claims people only appropriate appointed into public position. wtf it vermin mervin and dhammica kudu lal? the logic fail miserably.

Sam Perera said...

Too much of Eelam heroine is not good your health Panhinda. Also, too much of dreaming after drugs is not good for you either. Please don't hurt yourself with drugs, unless you want to check-in at Hotel California.

B#1 said...

Sam my friend, Sorry if I hurt you.

"After all it is very unlikely for a southern lion to be a puppet of India."

If this is true then my vote is for MR. Lets wait and see the developments.

And also MR should not mistreat the SF. He is our war hero. (don't say he joined with traitors since MR also joined with Terrorist).

Udhaya Nanaykkara talking to Rupavihini this morning said, SF has appointed unauthorized military personals and officers and that figures are higher than the authorized personals.

-mata hitha ganna baha me buruwa katindha katha karanne kiyala. Kari kaapu rilawek wage aanduwata kade yanawa.

Sam Perera said...

B#1,

And also MR should not mistreat the SF. He is our war hero.

Agree. I mentioned elsewhere that I will not forget or forgive if somethin hsppens.

(don't say he joined with traitors since MR also joined with Terrorist).

There is a clear difference between getting a terrorist reformed to agree with us and getting succumbed to terrorist demands. dearly hope that SF will not act contrary to his own principals just to compete in PE. Doing so will clearly take him down the drains.

Jambudipa said...

oi sam,

/*
He eats the same kurakkan Dutugemunu, Parakramabahu, Keppetipola etc ate.
*/

ha hahhaa haah haaaahaahaaah hahahahah!

is this why all this ass licking? you think he is modern day dutu gamunu?

you not that differnt to LTTE modaya who thought prabakaran was born again chola king no?

look where this kind of bullshit thinking took the tamils. you want the same for sinhelse? wake up and smell da friggin coffee.

even so, the part where prabakran was beaten is already etched in history. no one can take that away. mahida was part of the collective that made that happen but now he is useless. he is passed his sell by date, he should step down for everynes's benefit.

Sam Perera said...

Panhinda the Terrorist Scummy,


oi sam,

even so, the part where prabakran was beaten is already etched in history. no one can take that away. mahida was part of the collective that made that happen but now he is useless. he is passed his sell by date, he should step down for everynes's benefit.


Your way of addressing reminds me some old world buffoons I have met in the past. Just like you, they too were clueless about the Sinhala society. Please keep these two cents and buy a few clues to educate yourself about Sri Lanka in this old age of yours. The types of clues you need are very very cheap. Perhaps two cents can buy a dozen of them. Help yourself.

Jambudipa said...

oi sam,

/*
Your way of addressing reminds me some old world buffoons
*/

please dont go all 'civilised' on me all of the sudden.

you with your mervin vermin, p.b. jayasundara et al dont think you can afford such luxury.

aka said...

Wht i hav to say abt things i'm hearing?

If SF is really asking for 1,000 guard, it wld raise many questions in ppls minds. I thnk a number 200-400 will b the reasonalble number dat ppl want 2 hear. I'm nt rreally talkin abt the actual need bt wht it wld sound like.

Of course MR isan't winning votes refusing him security.

SF spent most of his life in the army which is nt democratic. He followed orders in the beginning and then ordered other latter.If any 1 of u have relly known these
kind of professional soldiers u may know that how hard it is for them to adapt to civil life again.I don't know how he will do now. SF has never been 1 dats wins evey 1s heart like Kobbakaduwa, janaka, or even jagath dias or Preasanna silva (i really dont know how these ppl r, just assuming 4rm wht i hav heard)...he has been a motivated tough commander who is aggressive to his enemies (both in LTTE and in army)...
He's straight speaking or say very contreversal which is nt gd for a polotician...

claiming he haven't done any mistake....
Battles in jaffna in de this war were far from fabulous....
War kills (and unless its a video game real ppls dies....)
bt repeated losses in Jafna FDL, was it really necessary....?
It was a necessity 2 put preasure on the FDL to keep LTTE caders commited, bt until Prasanne+Kamal combination came it was a 2 large cost for 2 little gain...

100$+ million used in creating the Mac infantry, was it really worth it...?
It certainly made LTTE 2 commit it best caders there....
Bt de Mac Inf. really cldnt made a huge push (4-5km) till Paranthan was taken...
FDL was 2 narrow to make any military maneuvers with 3 options left
1.straight forward
2.Sea born
3.Air born
So it was de worst place to fight...with de landsscape & heat...

This war didn't had huge victorious battles like Walioya, Achchuweli (i thnk in Rivirasa, i may have gt de name wrong bt it had a 19:300 ratio) untill the end...PTK where 600 LTTE caders were flanked and incircled...
This is most likely nt SFs doing(nt having dat kind of huge victories) bt if he is gd as he says he shld hav been able 2 do this...<--i may nt b correct bt this wld b gd ammuntion

4 MR party if they used it correctly...

Janaka Perera or Kobbakaduwe wld have been able to do this better provided they had the

support(political and budgetary) the MR government gave...
remember there was a rumour that Janaka said 2 CBK dat he will win de war in 2 yrs...(Of course CBK refusd, she always refusd a gd propsal 2 win war ne...)

This don't make SF a traitor or scum. Aligning with scum just wld make him a politician.

1st step.

And by de way do any 1 know a certain Brig. Rajaguru (possibaly his 1st name is chandana. or somthing starting with C). Hes mentiond in Jeyarajs article in Divaina last sunday.info needed.

and By de way why did SF said JJ is corrupted?

Sam Perera said...

Panhinda the Terrorist Scummy,

"please dont go all 'civilised' on me all of the sudden."

You are very amusing these days. Were you hit by the Mad Cow Decease or Swine Flue?" Please seek medical help immediately.

Unknown said...

Hi Guys if you look at today lakbima you will find this


A meeting between SF and MR


I would like to bold two things

1.SF said that he don't have any personal issue with MR

2.The pistol gang


guys what do you say about those things

Sam Perera said...

SLFET,

I don't like the way the government treats SF. I also don't like the was SF trying to get cozy with scum like Ranil, Mangala, Mano, and Rauf. That is my personal view for your record.

CASC said...

LTTE arms retrieved with photos

There is something wrong with the the first photo. It can't be LTTE arms unless it was SLA ammunition captured by the LTTE.

The mortar shells in photo#1 clearly indicate POF. POF stands for Pakistan Ordnance Factory and the Quarter moon and star symbol is the company logo. There is no way that POF sold arms to the LTTE. Its a Pakistan state owned company.


http://www.dailymirror.lk/DM_BLOG/ArticleImages/qn0rya45eamif545zpkt3445_Wanni600.jpg

http://www.dailymirror.lk/DM_BLOG/Sections/frmNewsDetailView.aspx?ARTID=68944

Moshe Dyan said...

casc,

corruption is rampant in pakistan. it is not surprising LTTE has pakistani arms.

last year's direct exports were $300 million. LTTE can source pakistani arms either directly or through african countries.

B#1 said...

[and By de way why did SF said JJ is corrupted?]

SF doesn't need to tell that, we can understand our self. Not only JJ but some more Army officers "Kade yanawa". If this continue, army will reduce their respect among the people. Bad situ..

aka said...

I needed a reason. Even a rumor will be enough. If JJ is not supporting SF...
Well as U can remember SF(when he was the comander) was strict with Janaka Perera too...

Keshara-කේශර said...

B#1,

Ref: Your comments about Nanayakkara

Mate, if SF become the next president; lot of high ranking army officers will go home within 24 hours. So what they possibly can do now? Whether they like it or not; they have to protect this government to survive.

You are going to see much more things from various quarters of the army in coming weeks that will criticise SF in support to MR and his govt.

K @ K

B#1 said...

Kshara, Very true mate. If so, then people decide to select SF as president in order to teach a lesson to those Army officers. MR lose more 5%.

Keshara-කේශර said...

B#1,

Not necessarily mate. Some people will be furious against blatant attack on good and retired general but its effect on election or voting will be minimal.

If MR uses army against SF then it will be another matter. However, this is just scoring to solidify their stand with the incumbent govt by otherwise useless army officers.

Where there is no talent; one may have to suck balls to stay in. That is the truth of commander Chandrasiri and other cahoots.

K @ K

aka said...

SF him self has mistreated many Army officers. Not only the corrupted. So if they are resentful not so much amazing. Plus many in the army doesn't like SF in politics. Specially in the UNA side(well they don't, unless they hav a case of short term memory loss).

Keshara-කේශර said...

AKA,

Agree, mate. I heard from some officers that SF is devil itself at times.

aka said...

I think the main reason that the military personal don't want to see SF in politics b'se they don't want to get associated with politics(here they eld b). & they have to make a choice 2(as it seems).

aka said...

I think SF is a person like Wijaya Wimalarathna. WW was brave solder but (i learnt this from a junior officer who have faught under him) sort of a war focused 1. he was so focused on war he some times really didn't care about men(i may b throwing stones at a wasp nest by saying this).

Bt in contrast DK was more ppls to soldiers under him, Like Janaka Perera.

B#1 said...

Kshara, Did you really get why did I use these 2 ladies names?

Keshara-කේශර said...

B#1,

No mate, I am living in a country far and away from all troubles. However, I know Anarkalee is on to politics and Sangeetha got married to a wealthy business guy couple of years ago. That is all. That is why I talked about Rasika!

Keshara-කේශර said...

OK bro B#1,

I got it; I know what makes you switched off. I will be careful in the future with names I use.

B#1 said...

Kshara, lol :)

Wickramabahu to contest the Presidential elections

-He will contest against President Mahinda Rajapaksa

What this kalakanniya really need? He has to contest against both SF & MR. Para deshadhrohiya..

B#1 said...

There is a big move SF has to reduce MR vote percentage;

LET MANOGONASUN TO CONTEST ALONE

Present situation is, more than 90% tamil population ready to vote MR since they do not like SF as president (they do not have any other option).

If they have the option "Mano"..??

Sujeewa Kokawala said...

Commode Candidate

Guess what. This is a great move. Can't ask for any better.

Sujeewa Kokawala said...

B#1;

Gonasan may not but it is likely that there wil be a tamil candidate accusing MR for destruction of LTTE. If the subtlety is reserved, man can get few 100k votes.

Which votes base does he squeeze? Anybody's guess.

Sujeewa Kokawala said...

General'splan

Jambudipa said...

wickrabahu, max 35,000 votes (0.36%) not going to make any difference.

Moshe Dyan said...

when too many jokers crowd the presidential election, people are likely to stick with the trusted candidate.

the whole PE has been made to a joke by jokers who can't even wait till the election date is announced.

mano gona-son will NEVER contest bcos that will reduce RW's votes, no one elses.

MR should get a tamil to contest on a strong anti-war front to further ruin RW's chances.

tamils have generally been against sinhala politicians. they are skeptical about BOTH main candidates.

B#1 said...

Moshe/SK,

I repeat it again

"more than 90% of tamil population ready to vote for MR since they don't have an option".

Tamils = (Jaffan + Colombo)

This is the truth

PHANTOM-X said...

I AM BACK...

PHANTOM-X said...

RANNA PONIL & CO. IS DOING THEIR BEST TO DIVIDE THE PATRIOTS...BE CAREFUL BROTHERS...

PHANTOM-X said...

JVP has given a priority list to SF.
It contains abolishing the executive presidency..
Ranil P also plans to abolish it..If SF abolishes executive presidency...
U.N.P is planning to introduce an executive prime ministers post...Ranna ponils plan is to become the first executive Prime minister...Ranna ponil will become the ultimate winner. poor SF will have to satisfy with leftovers...

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Sujeewa Kokawala said...

B#1;

[["more than 90% of tamil population ready to vote for MR since they don't have an option".

This is the truth]]

Would be wonderful if you can provide us some explanation for this.

Unknown said...

Danna yaka nodanna yakaata wada hondai..

MayilRavana මයිල් රාවන said...

sk, sam, moshe,

I think you are beginning to hint at the glimpses of a great secret; a secret strategy that will need more time to hatch!

The fact that you are beginning to steer the discussion towards considering both MR and SF as heroes and (would always be heroes)is a sign of this. It is best if you do not reveal too much of what you suspect.

However, it may be important to keep in mind that if a hero is going to be defeated then let it be at the hands of another (i.e pit a Elephant against a Lion but ensure that the Jackal gets trodden under foot). A hero, when taking a wrong path or trapped in the least deserves that honour.

Methinks I have said too much.

Ananda-USA said...

MayilRavana said...

[I think you are beginning to hint at the glimpses of a great secret; a secret strategy that will need more time to hatch!]

I said the same thing explicitly at DW about a month ago, and deshapaluwa misunderstood that comment, and I had to explain further. That scenario would be the best of all worlds.

Ananda-USA said...

Hip, Hip, Hooray for Bandula Jayasekara, Sri Lanka's Ambassador to Canada!

When western leaders (Miliband, Kouchner, Clinton) interfere in Sri Lanka shedding crocodile tears for LTTE leaders .. it is "Good Diplomacy".

When Sri Lanka Ambassadors point out terrorist thriving in their own closets, it is "Unwarranted Interference"!

Double Standards by Bloody Hypocrites!


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Cohn: Long arm of Sri Lanka's Toronto envoy

By Martin Regg Cohn

Sri Lanka's conflict is over, and yet it isn't – not there, and not here.

A weekend protest by Tamil Canadians outside the Sri Lankan consulate general in midtown Toronto was a distant echo of demonstrations that blocked University Ave. and brought the Gardiner Expressway to a crawl last spring.

The consul general wasn't at his desk on a Saturday. But he remains an unusually high profile – and undiplomatically meddling – presence in this town, where the 27-year war that ended this year still evokes strong feelings.

With more than 200,000 ethnic Tamils still detained in government camps, and a climate of government intimidation, Sri Lanka is hardly a peaceful place. Torontonians got a taste of that last week, when the "Scholars at Risk" program at U of T sponsored a lecture by one of Sri Lanka's foremost thinkers, Paikiasothy Saravanamuttu. Better known as Sara, he has long been a voice of reason and clarity amidst Sri Lanka's bitter divisions, with journalists and diplomats making a pilgrimage to his think-tank on one of Colombo's leafy, traffic-clogged streets.

Now, instead of merely analyzing events, he is the victim of them – a scholar at risk.

The death threats started last August. In September, Sara – an ethnic Tamil – was detained and interrogated at Colombo's airport at the behest of the Terrorist Investigation Division (TID). The state propaganda machine accused him of seeking regime change and maligning the country's reputation – a toxic allegation given Sri Lanka's record of political assassinations.

"Anyone talking about human rights and the culture of impunity is seen as the enemy," he told me before his lecture. According to government organs, "I am a traitor and working with the opposition."

But if Sara thought Canada would get him out of harm's way, it turns out that Toronto is hardly a haven for ethnic Tamil thinkers. Even 9,000 kilometres away from Colombo, Sri Lanka's government has a way of making itself heard – and felt – in the person of its high profile consul general in Toronto, Bandula Jayasekara.

Just ask another ethnic Tamil academic, Chelva Kanaganayakam, who was involved in organizing Sara's program. The consul general contacted him to "express some concern" about the university "compromising our objectivity," according to Kanaganayakam.

Or consider Cheran Rudhramoorthy, another Tamil Canadian academic living in Toronto. He received a series of bizarre emails from the consul general falsely asserting that he was behind a "terrorist website operating from Canada," followed by a letter, on consulate stationery, threatening to "make an official complaint to the University and to Canadian Law enforcement authorities." The professor hired a lawyer to send a "cease and desist" letter.

Ananda-USA said...

Double Standards by Bloody Hypocrites!

....continued....

Liberal foreign affairs critic Bob Rae, who gave a speech at the weekend protest outside Jayasekara's office, blames the consul general for sabotaging his trip to Colombo last summer, when he was given a visa by the high commissioner in Ottawa but turned back at the airport in Colombo: "I have reason to believe that he was passing on complete misinformation about me."

A Tamil Canadian lawyer, Gary Anandasangaree, described being accosted by the consul general at an event where he "asked me how much money I collected for the LTTE (Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam)." He said the diplomat was "belligerent and rude."

David Poopalapillai, a spokesperson for the Canadian Tamil Congress (CTC), says the consul general has called him a "terrorist fundraiser" at public events, despite the group's reputation for moderation.

When I contacted him Monday, Jayasekara made no apologies for his aggressive correspondence with academics, though he denied knowing Anandasangaree and declined to discuss his role in Rae being refused entry to Colombo.

And he quickly went on the attack, going so far as to suggest that "maybe the Toronto Star is getting money from the Tamil Tigers," adding: "Make my day."

Canada's Department of Foreign Affairs says it has received complaints about his activities and raised them with his Sri Lankan superiors.

"Canada has registered its concerns at the highest levels with the Sri Lankan High Commission and the Sri Lankan Foreign Ministry in Colombo and the Foreign Minister (Rohitha) Bogollagama himself," a spokesperson told me.

But the consul general appears to have outlasted his direct boss, Sri Lankan High Commissioner Daya Perera. His term was cut short after barely one year in Ottawa – vanquished, sources say, by a power play engineered by the voluble consul general in Toronto.

As for Jayasekara, he declined further comment, saying: "I'm going to cut the line." Which he did.

Martin Regg Cohn, the Star's deputy editorial page editor, writes Tuesday.

Ananda-USA said...

Yo! Kouchner, your friends are going to prison in France!

What! Couldn't throw them a lifejacket?


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France sentences 21 LTTE militants for extortion money from Tamil Diaspora

Tue, Nov 24, 2009, 10:36 am SL Time, ColomboPage News Desk, Sri Lanka.

Nov 24, Colombo: A court in France on Monday sentenced 20 out of 21 LTTE Tamil Tigers who were accused of extorting millions of Euros from the Tamil community in France to prison terms.

An AFP report said the leader of the group Nadaraja Matinthiran has been sentenced to 7 years in prison for extorting US$7.4 million (5 million Euros) as taxes from the Tamil community living in Paris and other surrounding areas to finance the LTTE terrorist activities in Sri Lanka.

The other 19 defendants were sentenced to six year or less while one was acquitted.

The court also ordered that the Coordinating Committee of Tamils-France be dismantled after ruling that it was a front for the LTTE, AFP reported.

According to the AFP report most of the suspects were arrested in April 2007 and charged with criminal conspiracy to commit acts of terrorism, financing of terrorism or racketeering to finance terrorism.

French prosecutors said the Tigers imposed a "revolutionary tax" on the Tamil immigrants to France most of whom were political refugees living in Paris and neighboring areas.

Sri Lankan government completely defeated the LTTE in May 2009 following a lengthy military operation.

A Jane's Intelligence Review report in August 2007 said the LTTE's profit margin was some US$ 200 to 300 million per year.

Ananda-USA said...

Mosquito Eradication and Clean Drinking Water should be matters of the HIGHEST PRIORITY for Sri Lanka.

Failure to do this will balloon medical costs and stunt national growth and productivity of the people.

Mosquitoes were a severe impediment to my enjoying my visit to SL recently. The situation has worsened over the last two years.


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Dengue has affected 75 percent of Colombo’s children

Nadira Gunatilleke

The Healthcare and Nutrition Ministry has discovered that 75 percent of the children below the age of 12 living in Colombo city limits have been infected with the dengue virus and there is a possibility of those with weak immune systems, being vulnerable to the disease, a Healthcare and Nutrition Ministry spokesman said.

Dengue outbreak

* 30,000 cases and 280 deaths

* Negligence of the public

* Haphazard system of solid waste management

He said it was discovered during a recent study by the Epidemiology Unit of the Ministry. The dengue fever can spread again with the monsoon rains. Therefore the public should be vigilant. The public and provincial authorities should take steps to destroy mosquito breeding places on a regular basis to prevent another dengue outbreak.

According to the spokesman the same study had shown that in 2009 the number of dengue cases increased up to 30,000 and 280 deaths due to the epigenetic changes of the Dengue Genotype 01. The other main factors which contributed to the outbreak were the negligence of the public and haphazard system of solid waste management of the local government bodies.

In 2004 the dengue outbreak was limited to main cities but this year it hit all areas including outstations. This condition is very similar to the situation faced by Singapore.

Ananda-USA said...
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Colomblogs said...

Simple Truth:
1). SF want to go higher and higher and now beleives he is greater and popular than MR
2). RW needs to come to power and SF is the bridge
3). JVP/Hakeem/Mangala want to get back the popularity and SF is the bridge
4). LTTE needs revenge via Mano and SF is the bridge

All of them knew this is a do or Die situation for them. So they will find all possible money (Raj Rajarathnam and LTTE proxies), Other methods (TU Strikes and making bad image to MR by some planned killings) to win this.

IF SF was not there it will be a natural death for all these. Now they have some hope (at least they believe) via SF immunization.

MR has not lost popularity bad as Opposition try to project.

Will Tamils vote for SF or MR?

One thing you can't ignore is taking CBK back as Priminister (this may be the Mangala and teams’ long term plan)

It will be a good fight.

If SF lose...then it seems Opposition has opted for an assisted suicide than natural death ):

Ananda-USA said...

"Model immigrants" are bringing RDX-explosives to Canada, for "personal use" only, of course!

Thou shall reap what thou sows, Canada!

LoL!


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Canadian authorities find RDX high explosives in MV Ocean Lady

The M.V. Ocean Lady was seized by Canadian authorities off the British Columbia coast with 76 illegal migrants on board. Photograph by: Handout, RCMP

Canadian authorities on Tuesday (Nov 24) have found a consignment of high explosives including RDX, while conducting further investigations in the confiscated LTTE arms vessel 'MV Ocean Lady'.

The LTTE vessel was arrested by the Canadian immigration authorities while smuggling-in 76 bogus asylum seekers on October, 2009. According to Canadian news sources, the authorities have found the high explosives and a few other chemical substances hidden in three separate compartments inside the ship.

Earlier, during initial investigations made the authorities have also uncovered two separate types of explosives, sources added. The 76 illegal migrants who were intercepted on a rusting ship off the west coast of Vancouver paid up to US$45,000 each for a new life in Canada, sources said citing an arrestee.

According to defence sources, MV Ocean Lady (Princess Eashwary) is owned by the most wanted LTTE arms cum human smuggler Ravi Shanker alias Shangili.

Ananda-USA said...

More LTTE Rats Abandoning Ship!

I think we should let these people go wherever they want, provided they volunteer to give up Sri Lanka citizenship.

............
Navy's Major Break through in Human Smuggling: Sri Lanka Navy arrests 02 Multi-day Trawlers in the High Seas with over 60 Occupants

Navy's Major Break through in Human Smuggling: Sri Lanka Navy arrests 02 Multi-day Trawlers in the High Seas with over 60 Occupants.

In a well-coordinated maritime operation both on land and in the high seas lasting over two weeks , Sri Lanka Navy Vessels deployed especially for this operation arrested two (02) human smuggling multi-day fishing trawlers heading for South Eastern deep waters carrying over sixty (60) occupants in the high seas of Southern Sri Lanka. Sri Lanka Air Force too assisted in this coordinated effort.

This is considered one of the highest and major break-throughs in the human smuggling operations in Sri Lanka where the major network would be probed to effectively arrest this criminal act. Occupants have paid large sums of money for the human smuggling and who are operating with maritime terrorists and criminals for their ulterior motives. Sri Lanka Police is also assisting Sri Lanka Navy in this combined effort.

Jambudipa said...

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Navy's Major Break through in Human Smuggling: Sri Lanka Navy arrests 02 Multi-day Trawlers in the High Seas with over 60 Occupants
*/

looks like all sinhalese. just like people flee fidel castro cuba.

deathrow said...

Tribute to srilankan war heroes

Link


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B#1 said...

When this man is active, SF does NOT need any political campaign.

King of Kelaniya

Sam Perera said...
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Sam Perera said...

The top scum Mano Ganeshan is negotiating his conditions with General Fonseka. I am not sure if General Fonseka had anything to negotiate with this terrorist other than how Ganeshan's due sentence should be administered. I am very deeply disappointed by the fact that he is about to submit to demands of scum.

MayilRavana මයිල් රාවන said...

Sam,
Don't say too much. Look at all the news and think deeply. Do you believe all that you see superficially.
OTOH, you could ask me if I am in denial?
May be. I know one thing. I have seen the pattern of dealing with the enemy through false information before.
Enemies of Mother Lanka are to be found in the most unexpected places. Some times you need to use one enemy to get another.

One thing I am almost sure of. MR and SF are cut from the same tree. It is important that no matter what happens both of them retain their status. Large part of that destiny sits with them. We need to be patient and watch and act behind the scenes.

Have you noticed that the well known terras are strangely silent? Except perhaps muted interruption by stone-dick who threatened SL with nuclear disaster only a few months ago.

Sam Perera said...

MayilRavana මයිල් රාවන said...

Have you noticed that the well known terras are strangely silent?

I am all ears to know the General's stance. In any case, we will discover it in a matter of days.

Keshara-කේශර said...

Mr. Fonseka’s true intentions on his future are getting clearer as time goes by. It seems patriotic elements are slowly but gradually converging and the general is emerging as an acceptable candidate for most. I mean really patriotic elements not those who have become patriotic for power, popularity and money.

Still it is too early to see the final shape of the contest against mighty MR and his brothers but one thing is for sure. The retired general is going to be a power to reckon with.

He may perform another miracle by saving mother land twice in two different ways.

Moshe Dyan said...

mayil,

"pit a Elephant against a Lion but ensure that the Jackal gets trodden under foot"

we all want that.

but this JACK-ASS ranil homosexual mala sakkili ponna SOB (curse his voters), is not going to get trodden without a fight.

it is also a fact that,

ONLY PATRIOTS CAN DIVIDE PATRIOTS.

in the elephant vs lion battle, knowing the end, the elephant spares the hyena hoping that one day it will eat the lion cubs.

the lion finds the hyena a nuisence than a threat and avoids it like shit.

so at the end of the day, the hyena survives!!

that's why we need to get the MOST VICIOUS ONE among the elephant and the lion to kill the hyena. if he thinks he should first kill the threat at hand, there is very little we can do. let him concentrate.

Moshe Dyan said...

didn't i say so???

SF always has this DEEP respect for BANDIT QUEEN!!!



"He blamed weak military leadership, not political leadership, for allowing the LTTE to survive so long.

He said that in 1999, as a young Major General, he had told President Chandrika Kumaratunga in reply to a question that the war could be finished off in four years. Another Major General who was also present at this occasion said eight years; a third, who was commanding the army’s Special Forces said that the war could never be won; while a fourth made his presentation without any comment in regard to deadlines.

All four Major Generals invited by Kumaratunga had made presentations. The army was modernized during Kumaratunga’s regime with 120 mm, 130 mm, 152.7 mm m.b.r.l.s and tanks being procured during that period, he said."

Moshe Dyan said...

today is VEZAPILLAI's birthday.

in HONOUR of vezapillai, mano gona-son (a LONG standing supporter and worshiper of vezapillai) is planning to get the former army commander SF SURRENDERED to mano's conditions.

this, mano thinks is the MOST fitting tribute to vezapillai.

lets wait and see if vezapillai will have the last laugh over SF.

their planning is fantastic.

Moshe Dyan said...

it is as good as it gets.

SF's party consider's the VADUKODAI RESOLUTION symbol as his party symbol!!!!

from island.lk

"General (retd) Sarath Fonseka is likely to contest the next Presidential Election, on the Lalith Front ticket, The Island learns.

Sources said the Lalith Front, though a registered party, had not contested elections for a long time and was willing to provide Fonseka with a forum to contest the presidency. "There will be no problem in changing the party’s name or symbol," they said.

The joint Opposition, which is backing Fonseka as the ‘Common Candidate’, was exploring the possibility of using the ‘Rising Sun’ as its symbol, which belongs to the Tamil United Liberation Front (TULF).

Discussions were held with TULF leader V. Anandasangaree
on his party giving up its symbol, but there had been no positive response so far, sources said."


A FITTING TRIBUTE to vezapillai on his birthday by mano gona-son.

Keshara-කේශර said...

MD,
Sorry bro, I have an alternative idea but it is only a thought at the moment:
If I foresee where Mr. Fonseka is going! He is not going to be a cheap stooge of anybody. Both RW and MR will be in hell of fix when SF announces his true intentions which may not be sleeping with enemy at all. He has the capability and proven charisma to convince the majority of voters, if he uses his head and take the advantage of present political climate wisely.
Present political climate in SL:
1. UNPers are disgruntled with no foreseeable future and RW is not going anywhere.
2. People suspect MR’s real agenda when it comes to 13th amendment, corruption, Mervins factor as well as Indian connection and family dynasty.
3. Minority parties have no real hope with MR.
4. Tamil people will not support MR.
5. Leftists and low income people are against MR and his wastage.
I can see SF’s campaign gathering momentum, if he stands as a common candidate without being subservient to other traitors but in firm control with all alliance parties:
1. MR has done lot of mistakes already and will do more and more in near future.
2. All disgruntled UNPers will vote for SF not RW.
3. All patriotic elements of SLFP, JVP and UNP will vote for SF.
4. People of Sri Lanka will reject Mervin’s and similar other vermin’s protector.
5. CBK section of traditional SLFP voters will support SF.
6. Majority of SL army will vote for SF.
7. Sri Lankan youths and university students will reject MR and vote for SF.
8. Those who want a real change of Sri Lankan politics will vote for SF.
9. MR’s popularity will fade away by January when people see Fonseka’s true stand with RW and rest of the traitors.
10. Intellectuals and business people will support SF, if he chose his policies correctly.
11. Even Maha Sangha will be divided between MR and SF.
Well, What do you think?

Ananda-USA said...

What is a German NGO doing dabbling in Sri Lanka's internal politics?

INGOs should be BARRED from ALL SUCH ACTIVITIES in Sri Lanka, with NO EXCEPTIONS!



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‘Ranil the Enjeeyokaaraya’ comes out of the closet

I take election manifestos very seriously. I treat them with the respect that I would have for pulp fiction. Why? Well, they are good for recycling and they are mostly fictional. I read them though. For light entertainment. I was thrilled therefore when Ranil Wickremesinghe distributed a manifesto of sorts a couple of days ago.

If you really want to know what people want to do if they come to power the last thing you should do is to listen to them or read their manifestos. The better indicators would be the company they keep, the things they’ve done and who funds them. I believe this is why in certain countries candidates are required to detail campaign contributions and why there is a lot of concern about lobbying and lobbyists.

Ranil Wickremesinghe’s anagatha abiyogaya (the challenge of the future) is an interesting read no doubt. It is easy to analyze, easy to promise. Delivery and will on the other hand don’t necessarily follow from these splendid words. I prefer, let me reiterate, to focus on track records, friends and funders.

If anything surprized me in this manifesto it is the fact that Ranil has named the organization that funded the printing of this manifesto, Friedrich Naumann Stiftung fur die Freiheit, a German-based INGO. Now I am not surprized that Ranil was offered funds by an INGO, but it does show what a political neophyte he is to actually acknowledge the fact given that INGOs are viewed with extreme suspicion by the public and that Friedrich Naumann Stiftung in particular has a sorry reputation for dabbling in local politics.

Why did Ranil Wickremesinghe have to run to Friedrich Naumann Stiftung to get money, though? I checked how much it would cost to print this manifesto and found the price to be in the region of Rs. 8 per copy. Assuming that he printed say 200,000, it would come to Rs. 1.6 million. That’s peanuts for the UNP. It is peanuts for Ranil Wickremesinghe.

It would be peanuts for the rich ladies and gentlemen who are members of that party or who generously fund it again and again. If these sources have abandoned him and if he himself has been so impoverished that he finds this a forbidding amount of money, then the UNP must really be in dire straits.

I am an unemployed graduate but even I could, if pushed, get 160 friends to cough up Rs. 10,000 each to make up this amount and if Ranil Wickremesinghe, given his wealth, connections and designation as leader of the ‘biggest single political party in Sri Lanka’ (well, that’s what he says, but let’s go with it) cannot, that is a severe indictment on the man’s abilities, I would think.

I checked out this outfit. Friedrich Naumann Stiftung is supposed to be a non-profit organization that promotes liberal democracy, economic freedom, the rule of law and respect for human rights.

So sweet! They’ve been around Sri Lanka for quite a while, organizing/funding workshops, seminars and publications, supposedly along the lines of their mandate, but it doesn’t take much to figure out that they’ve consistently pushed for a certain kind of institutional arrangement that is not necessarily in the public interest.

Ananda-USA said...

What is a German NGO doing dabbling in Sri Lanka's internal politics?

......continued......
Their partner organizations, the people they regularly hurrah and the kind of political discourse they promote indicates that Friedrich Naumann Stiftung is not happy just muttering about democracy, they want their pals in power. Why else would an INGO go to the lengths of funding a policy statement of the Leader of the Opposition? I do not know what kind of MoU Friedrich Naumann Stiftung has signed with the relevant agency of the Government, but I can’t think that there’s anything in the small print to permit some self-appointed saviours to fiddle around in local politics.

I find it interesting that Friedrich Naumann Stiftung talks about liberal democracy, economic freedom, the rule of law and respect for human rights. The outfit is based in Germany and therefore headquartered in the European Union. An interesting political entity, that. A few days ago, I watched a documentary titled ‘The end of the line’ that spoke about the alarming depletion of aquatic resources.

An African made the following observation about the European Union: ‘our fish don’t require visas, but they turn us away, they don’t like us.’ The EU is notorious for its racist immigration policies, especially the Maastricht Treaty, where it was specifically mentioned that immigrants from the Global South would be spurned. I wonder if Friedrich Naumann Stiftung has had anything to say about the problems at ‘home’ with respect to common decency, let along ‘ensuring freedom and worldwide in every sphere of society’ as per its mandate. Apparently ‘human dignity’ is a selective business.


Friedrich Naumann Stiftung ‘seeks to promote open markets throughout the world’. I am betting that the outfit has kept mum on the recent global tend towards adopting protectionist policies. Friedrich Naumann Stiftung wants us to recognize that ‘globalization is a major opportunity’ and to embrace it with open arms.

Ranil Wickremesinghe, then, is the organization’s preferred candidate to open Sri Lanka and Sri Lankans to naked plunder and exploitation for there is no other way to describe the ‘globalization’ that is constantly being thrust down our throats.

Now that he has come out of the closet, all his pals will come under a cloud called ‘The Agenda of INGOs’. In other words, the Mangala Samaraweera, Mano Ganeshan, Rauff Hakeem and others will have to wear the unsavoury badge, ‘I am an NGO kaaraya’. So too the JVP, interestingly, and nothing would be funnier than Comrades Tilvin and Somawansa playing puppy-dog to Friedrich Naumann Stiftung!

Anyway, folks, it’s all out now. It is about what you want. It is about who you want to rule this country. If you want Friedrich Naumann Stiftung to be the king/queen-maker, it’s your funeral. Remember Don Juan Dharmapala? I am wondering how many times the man is going to be re-born in this thrice blessed land. I am betting, however, that we are not short of Konappu Bandaras.

Ananda-USA said...

Kehsara asked ...

[Well, What do you think?]

I think that SF is undermining the nation at a critical time, unless he abandons his candidacy at the last moment and sabotages the Opposition campaign under a pre-arranged TROJAN HORSE plan with the current GOSL.

We need at least a DECADE of political stability, not "more democracy" to suit NGOs and potential separatists, to solidify our national integrity, and grow the economy fast.

Whatever his reasons are, by coming out to oppose this GOSL now, SF is putting that in jeopardy.

The people of Sri Lanka know what peril we were in just a year ago; and will not give any credence to SF's campaign especially in ALLIANCE WITH EVERY DESHADROHI of the previous 30 years.

The MR-led GOSL will gain a LANDSLIDE victory, because the common man, who suffered the most and paid the greatest price in the last 30 years, know what is in his self-interest: NATIONAL SECURITY, POLITICAL STABILITY, ECONOMIC GROWTH, RAPID DEVELOPMENT especially in RURAL Areas, and JOBS, JOBS, and more JOBS in his own country .. not ABROAD in some foreign land as an economic refugee cut off from ALL THAT THEY LOVE and TREASURE in this life!

Sam Perera said...

Ananda-USA,

I am not sure what the hell our government is doing until Friedrich Naumann Stiftung meddle with local politics. Any INGO meddling with local politics shall be kicked out in the most unceremonious manner.

Sam Perera said...

Keshera,

The people of Sri Lanka know what peril we were in just a year ago; and will not give any credence to SF's campaign especially in ALLIANCE WITH EVERY DESHADROHI of the previous 30 years.

As Ananda says, if SF is here to promote interests of top sum, he is as good as those scum.

Hiranthe said...

I am feeling bored to death.

Life is stagnated. Without the fear of bombs going off anywhere in the country, people feel sleepy.

Without check points and security checks, we feel less important and neglected.

We are also not in the limelight of the world news…

Thanks to V.P. People in the remotest place on earth know about our country. He is the only one who could do this… All our foreign mission champions were useless.

We need to get some energy pumped in to people to increase production. Without the international pressure, the whole country feels lethargic. We need the involvement of Miliband and Solhem in our day to day affairs back again. They love our country more then our own people. Only fools can not see that.

We need a change. The only way is bringing our good General to power. He will make sure Ranil will be our first Executive PM. Then we can be happy and energetic again since LTTE will be back again doing their good work….

For an example, if we can bring Arvinda, Kalu and Sanath back to our national cricket team, it will be interesting to watch cricket again… Similarly politically we need some energy.

Ranil can release KP and make use of his expertise. KP can be the best international Financial Advisor and Foreign Policy Advisor.. With his expertise, we can become really rich as a country. When we become rich, people from developed countries would want to come and live here and human smugglers will try to smuggle Australians and Canadians to our beautiful country….

Sri Lankan Navy is always useless. Only Sea Tigers can stop these smugglers… Therefore we have to let them re-group and establish their naval duties…

It would also be better to merge North and East again and give the Administration to Mano, TNA and Hakeem in key places. They will establish the LTTE bomb factories and with their expertise we can become No.1 exporter of bombs and ammunition.. Then we can become more rich.

Dear patriots… we need to vote for General.. We also can make use of Dhanuna’s expertise and initially make him the BOI chairman. He can bring a lot of foreign investments.. He is a master of companies. We can easily beat Singapore.

Let Rajapaksa’s go back to the paddy field and continue there “Gama Neguma” Gota can go to US and face the trials and go to Hague for what he has done. Or otherwise let him also go to the paddy field for the cultivation programme.

“Ape Generalta Jaya Wewa”

Keshara-කේශර said...

Ananda and Sam,

What if SF is really not promoting RW, Mangala, Lakshman, Mano or any other body for that matter? He may be using the prevailing political climate to his advantage to promote the second phase of nation building!
We don’t know yet but as many others have already pointed out; SF is not a person to collaborate with enemy unless there is a master plan to kill two birds with one piece of rock.

On the other hand, If he is going to be a traitor and trying to undone all good achievements of the present government. Then he will be a sorry arse soon.

Keshara-කේශර said...

In short all I say is; give SF a chance to prove that he is genuinely interested in going forward with the nation. I don’t think he is in a position to con whole nation for personal ego and vendetta. If it is not, public will kick him out at the election similar to a pair of broken rubber slippers.

Moshe Dyan said...

kk,

nice way of analysing.
but a few inaccuracies.
1. “He has the capability and proven charisma to convince the majority of voters”
No. He is yet to prove it.

2. UNPers are disgruntled with no foreseeable future and RW
No – 90%, yes – 10% they still prefer RW.

3. Low income ppl will never support SF who is “not one of them” and also fear brutal suppression . “eat cake if you can’t eat bread”.

4. “All disgruntled UNPers will vote for SF not RW”
Never! They love RW.

5. “All patriotic elements of SLFP, JVP and UNP will vote for SF”
No!

6. “Majority of SL army will vote for SF”
Never. Sf was not so popular in the SLA for some reason.

ppl see SF as a disturbance.

anti-war camp is anyway against SF. so consider the pro-war camp. why did govt get popular after the war???? was it JUST winning the war that made them popular??? I don’t think so. it was govt’s AGGRESSIVE attitude + winning the war that made it popular.
Ppl never rallied around SF when he made the “sinhala” statement to a canadian paper.

ppl see political ABLE-MAN-SHIP in govt to USE the SLDFs, etc. to get things done. that is what made the govt popular.

janaka perera is a good example. He was #1 war hero at the time of the NCP election. berty premalal dissanayake was CORRUPT, a THUG, an UGLY BASTARD, etc. but ppl preferred him and his party over JCP. JCP was special to ppl than SF. JCP gave them security DIRECTLY, LAND, etc. even then they rejected him.

ppl of SL are no fools. they know what is known as “HORSES 4 COURSES”. a good cricketer is a good cricketer, a good general is a good general and a good politician is a good politician. they want a leader to listen to their political demands for a easygoing island life. SF is not the man 4 that!!

they don't trust the hard noosed general 4 that.

Nilupul said...

Moshe Dyan, You talk like an idiot some times!

How can you come up with numbers like SF would get only 4%, if he contest independently? What research do you have to support this number? By the way, how do you know for sure, that SF cannot with just because his son in law’s stuff? How about MR, GR, BR and CR actions so far? Millions of $ that has been utilized under BR authority have been questioned by many. Lasantha Wikramathunga’s death has been linked GR.

By the way, GR told the world and to us that all military deals were done through Lanka Logistics and no agents. Why did he lie? Why he wanted to protect SF then ?

If SF and DANUNA were doing this (assume it’s true), I simply do not think rest of the bunch were NOT DOING ANY THING LIKE THAT. They must have been doing the same behind the screen and these dirty things will come out very soon.

Until then stop criticizing SF, because no one knows the truth!

Moshe Dyan said...

kk,

also ppl NOW want a PEACETIME PRESIDENT. not a WAR TIME general!!!

a short story to explain.

once in USA, in the 19th century, a scientist came up with a brilliant mouse trap after 20+ years analysing rat/mouse/rodent behaviour.

a company hired him, paid a fortune and mass produced the mouse trap. it was FLOP!

when they anaylese why it failed, they found that the scientist analysed rats/rodents/mice in GREAT detail, but didn't consider the USERS!!!

it is the USERS (both buyers and consumers) that buy it, not rats!!

Keshara-කේශර said...

MD,
Very nicely written indeed! However, I prefer to wait at least a month to see how it goes. I like MR a lot but he is making lot of mistakes to be a good politician. If SF cannot convince public with a genuine cause and reasons, then it will be MR all the way.

Cheers, mate.

Moshe Dyan said...

ananda,

"I think that SF is undermining the nation at a critical time, unless he abandons his candidacy at the last moment and sabotages the Opposition campaign under a pre-arranged TROJAN HORSE plan with the current GOSL."

YES!

but it is not likely to happen.

bcos RW PONNAYA is the UriNePee candidate!!

anyone can go arse licking mano, ranil, mongal, hakeem but they cannot get anything other than FARTS and SHIT!!

those who look for EDIBLES in RW's arse will soon be disappointed!!!

meanwhile mano is taking his own sweet time (he can afford to do so!!!).

he has FIRST worshipped vezapillai on his BIRTHDAY today before interviewing the LONG LIST of candidates who are meeting him seeking jobs.

Moshe Dyan said...

kk,

cheers.

the waiting game is what we should also play in coming to a FINAL decision.

but the signs are up!! and the evidence is convincing. i won't go and pick strange fish in the beach when the sea has retracted strangely. i run from the IMPENDING tsunami!!

Jambudipa said...

moshe

you hit the nail on the head there.

/*
janaka perera is a good example. He was #1 war hero at the time of the NCP election. berty premalal dissanayake was CORRUPT, a THUG, an UGLY BASTARD, etc. but ppl preferred him and his party over JCP. JCP was special to ppl than SF. JCP gave them security DIRECTLY, LAND, etc. even then they rejected him.
*/

janaka perera more qualified, uncorrectable yet people chose the corrupt from SLFP.

lets not repeat the same mistake.

Jambudipa said...

Ganesan has talks with Fonseka on minority rights - DM

Gen. SF good with these things. after all karuna, TMVP etc did wonders under Gen SF.

Moshe Dyan said...

panhinda,

agree on principle.

but the parties have changed now.

danuna is now on the other side!!!

the MOST corrupt (ranil, SB, CBK) are on the SAME side.

ugly??? mongal is the ugliest of all humans!!

on the same side.

Ananda-USA said...

Keshara said ...

[He has the capability and proven charisma to convince the majority of voters]

Capability as a military officer: Yes; as a politician having to balance different priorities, he has not demonstrated any capabilities .. yet.

On the contrary, the first step he took to enter politics .. his letter of resignation .. was flawed, a monumental disaster.

Is that a letter written by a statesman and war hero, or does it give the impression of a little boy whose is going home with his marbles in a huff because he cannot have his way?

If you were denied a promotion at work, would you leave for a better job writing a letter of resignation with dirty laundry list of 16 minor complaints? He should have left thanking the President, and saying that he now wishes to pursue different goals; not by washing dirty linen in public.

I would NEVER have written such a letter; It is simply NOT DONE and is an indication of his POLITICAL IMMATURITY!

Moshe Dyan said...

panhinda,

"Ganesan has talks with Fonseka on minority rights - DM"

yes. b4 that goneson worshiped a replica of VP as it is his birthday.

he alsways keeps a photo of VP with a garland in his office. everyone who comes to meet him,

1. sees it.
2. cannot complain about it
3. sometimes have to light the lamp by it.

he has made these observations to a tamil newspaper recently.

BTW SF is not the ONLY candidate gonesan is seeing today!!

Ananda-USA said...

Hiranthe said ...

A heck of a lot!

Bravo! Devastating WIT, Brother!

Keshara-කේශර said...

MD,

I also thought the same way until yesterday but latest news from SL is not that good for MR. I personally prefer MR over RW for thousand reasons but if SF can convince me that he could be a good manager of the state affairs, be firm on unruly elements, eliminate corruption and promoter of racial harmony. Then he will be my candidate because that is a lot to expect from MR.

Therefore, I would be open minded until he proves himself otherwise.

Keshara-කේශර said...

Ananda,

Mate, I agree what you have just said about his resignation letter. I myself was appalled after seeing it. Though that letter shows he is emotionally unbalanced; it is a brainchild of bankrupt RW and his clan. However, I cannot reject a true warrior until he proves himself otherwise. A true warrior may use all weapons available to him in order to achieve the ultimate goal including sleeping with the enemy.

I sincerely hope this is the case with SF.

Sam Perera said...

Patriots,

We are getting very close to the Mahakazuthai Day. It is highly possible that a kazuthai will engage in totally justifiable and white master acceptable act of blowing a few dozen civilians or a high profile politicians. Please consider that the current drama of tops scum questioning General Fonseka to be the perfect distraction. Please be vigilant and never underestimate the madness of Eelamoids. I hope that our SIS and MI are working overtime these days!

May Blessing of Triple Gems Be With You and Armed Forces of Sri Lanka!!

Sam Perera said...

Keshara,

A true warrior may use all weapons available to him in order to achieve the ultimate goal including sleeping with the enemy.

I am very sorry my friend, I will not subscribe to this view ever in my life when it comes to the behavior of a hero like General Fonseka. He was the commander of Sri Lankan Army, not an intelligence operative. Please stop fooling yourself. Mark my word, in the unlikely scenario if SF teams up and succumb to demands of the top scum of Sri Lanka, he won't be anyhing bigger than the people who set his policies.

Swarnajith Udana said...

Hi Keshara: Long time No see.

Ananda USA:

As you say, whatever SF' intentions are he is undermining the interests of the Nation at a extremely crucial time. LTTE is militarily finished but LTTE or LTTE interests are not. Life does not offer us perfects. AT the moment our, best bet is one more term for the President. Whatever his defects are, by the resolution he showed against the foreign powers in destruction of LTTE, the President's re-election will be a resounding reassurance. We know that he will not betray the Nation.


Most manure he made (except security harassment of his opponents and Mervin) were compelled on him by the existing constitution. Otherwise, how could have he survived in that budget crisis? If he did not what could have survived was the LTTE.

SF is no fawn of anyone's. He is his own man. There is a method to his madness. I wish that he would fail in his method for the sake of the Nation. If his intentions are genuine he must first come through the grass roots.

What he has shown so far is that contempt for democracy (on top of his military genius and heroism). There are many incidents that indicate to this undemocratic way of thinking. Some may come out in the campaign.

The security arrangements he made in Ambalangoda for his ceremony is one example. (Ambalangoda was not a war zone even in the war time- Even though I am not an expert who knows what is OK not OK for a General to do, as I feel he cannot have that authority-It is a slap on the people. The arrangements should have been made through civilian authority). (BTW I am from Ambalangoda and my alma mater was Dharmaoska.)

The letter he wrote to military personnel is thinly veiled threat to democracy. He can write to people in general, why military?

These are the things that I observed without having any inside information. This may be a tip of the iceberg. That's why I think that his election to the top post could become utter disaster for Sri Lanka. Of course I do not know for sure. Why take chances?

My suspicion is almost verified by his willingness to allow unprtested serenades for him from LTTE agents to be continued. He could have gone against the President still keeping even much larger distance from these LTTE agents. Why does not he do that? He wants to win. For an ego maniac, reality is not visible. He sees that his militarism and UNP vote bank and other LTTE votes can bring him the victory.

And, also, this could happen especially if the most of the top section of UNP supports him and there are true information with the government to be used again SF. The intricacy is that anything against SF could boomerang in the direction of the government too. I do not know. During the election campaign the trends can change. I am not aware of any current random opinion poll at this moment. So it is hard to predict but as I spoke to many, SF is, right now, in a humiliating position. It cannot be that he does not know this. If he does not know this then it his ego is looking; not his mind. Inflated EGO is the first sign of a despot.

Pol Pot was a soft spoken man. Hitler loved his dog and did not eat meat.

Pol Pot, Hitler, Stalin, Sadam all showed how brave and decisive they were. Lenin did it for a brief period of time since he died before he showed his true colours. Trotsky did not have a chance to show his colours. If he had a chance then Stalin might have looked like a Saint.

Thank you!

Swarnajith Udana

Moshe Dyan said...

"A true warrior may use all weapons available to him in order to achieve the ultimate goal including sleeping with the enemy"

agree 100% if the ultimate goal is national security.

BUT that doesn't explain if anyone SLEEPS with the enemy when there is no war!!!

LOL!

i too like to sleep with LTTE thangachchis (they are well seasoned and willing) but don't want to get blown to pieces 10 miliseconds to throwing off!!! but that i will keep AWAY from politics. certainly not in mano gonason's office.

mano gonason is the new UNP leader!!

Jambudipa said...

moshe, yes.

Jambudipa said...

dear s. udana

/*
LTTE is militarily finished but LTTE or LTTE interests are not. Life does not offer us perfects. AT the moment our, best bet is one more term for the President.
*/

could you please elaborate what you think the current LTTE threats are? and also why MR better to handle your aforementioned threat than SF?

cheers.

Keshara-කේශර said...

Sam,

Thanks for your view friend. I was convinced like you until yesterday that SF will not be able to come out of the hole which he dug himself.

However, my mind is now refusing to believe that he is collaborating with scums like RW, Mangala or Mano. It is not logical with a war hero and a patriot unless he happened to be the biggest traitor of all time.

Let us wait and see; he can change faces and costumes in the dark but soon has to come out and dance in the open with broad day light.

Moshe Dyan said...

this is NOT the way to fight corruption!!

"In his petition Gen. Fonseka requested personal security consisting of at least 600 security personnel and ten escort vehicles and two bullet proof vehicles.

He also demanded the land" - DM

600 security personnel.
salary of one = 20,000
other costs (food, transport, uniform, leave) = 10,000
cost pm = 30,000
cost per year = 360,000
for 600 = 360,000 x 600 = 216,000,000

10 escorts = 10 x 3,000,000 = 30,000,000

2 bullet proof cars = 2 x 10,000,000 = 20,000,000

TOTAL cost of unelected politician = 216m + 30m + 20m
= 266,000,000!!! a year.

mind you this is even b4 getting elected.

corruption???

OTOH why security??? there is no need. mano ganeshan is on his side!!

1. enemies have beomce friends and therefore no security risk

2. if enemies want to do something, the 600 ppl + 10 vehicels + 2 cars cannot stop it either bcos the enemy is within all that!!!

3. there is no other security risk.



A. 266,000,000 for security
B. for no security risk
C. for unelected politician
D. 12,000,0000 a year rent
E. a trip for 2 to USA every 6 months
F. exuberent life style

again it reminds me the BANDIT QUEEN!!

Swarnajith Udana said...

Dear Panhinda:

Answer is simple.

Over a gentleman for whom/who

Thoppigala is just a forest,

Chewing gum and Ring tones are the burning issues,

Killincohhi has fallen == petrol price down,

Alimankada=Pamankada,

conspire/s to bring down the government in the midst of the war

I prefer MR.

Over any person/s go/es into a political wedding with such people I prefer MR.


About LTTE;

I do not believe that you are so naive but I answer anyway:

LTTE international terror network has not been finished.
They are still conspiring against the Nation. The best evidence is that they are now serenading SF for Presidency. (If the information in the public is correct.)

Development and strengthening of individual rights is necessary for LTTE to be completely eliminated.

Of Course UNP would have come to the power after the war if they (UNP) had chosen to play a constructive (but critical-not Alimakada=Pamankada type) role during the war instead they played an extremely destructive role. That only enhanced the stature of MR. Since MR was fighting in so many fronts. It looks like that he was fighting his general too. (This I do not know but it appears to be that way).

Any people who associate themselves with people who were willing to sell the Nation to satisfy their greed for power are a disgrace.

UNP to be even eligible to engage in politics (in my kind of world) they need to apologise to the Nation for the each of the treacherous acts they performed.

Of course you are not going to agree.

Have a nice day. I will be ready to debate you if you accept that UNP's recent performance was treacherous at best. Otherwise have a good life.

Thanks! Best of greetings to you!

Jambudipa said...

dear s. udana,

/*
I will be ready to debate you if you accept that UNP's recent performance was treacherous at best. Otherwise have a good life.
*/

i feel you have closed doors even before you have seen what is best for you. people hate change. i understand. thats ok.

/*
Thoppigala is just a forest,
Chewing gum and Ring tones are the burning issues,
Killincohhi has fallen == petrol price down,
*/

sure, UNP dumb bastards when it comes PR with the poor ignorant folks. best they can do is toot horns etc on horse carriage. it would have prefered they had taken bi-partisan approch to war. but they stood by their conviction war is not the solution. it was not just them, many other prev UPFA govt thought along same lines. thats fine the debate is now redundant. what matters now who is better for the next phase.

/*
I prefer MR.
Over any person/s go/es into a political wedding with such people I prefer MR.
*/

fake color boot polish covering hair black, fake smile, fake veneration to buddhism, fake patriotism, faking knowlege of ecnomony and commerce, fake good goverance corrupt as hell cought with his hand inside charity collection tin. then on the other hand, you have someone who is widely accepted as mr clean, genuine hiar color, genuine everythin else. people would wonder why people like MR.

/*
LTTE international terror network has not been finished.
They are still conspiring against the Nation. The best evidence is that they are now serenading SF for Presidency. (If the information in the public is correct.)
*/

where is the evidence? if connection with Mano Ganeshon is your evidence, then Mahinda going after TNA. in that case Mahinda must be also 'conspiring against the nation'. no?

Sam Perera said...

Panhinda,

where is the evidence? if connection with Mano Ganeshon is your evidence, then Mahinda going after TNA. in that case Mahinda must be also 'conspiring against the nation'. no?

Hard not to notice how you try to invert the picture. Let me see if you get this.

1. Rehabilitationg and reforming a former terrorist to be part of Sri Lanka is NOT anti SL conspiracy.

2. Giving up your values and embracing succumbing to terrorist ways is anti SL conspiracy.

Swarnajith Udana said...
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Thusitha said...

Ananda-USA said...
Is that a letter written by a statesman and war hero, or does it give the impression of a little boy whose is going home with his marbles in a huff because he cannot have his way?

If you were denied a promotion at work, would you leave for a better job writing a letter of resignation with dirty laundry list of 16 minor complaints? He should have left thanking the President, and saying that he now wishes to pursue different goals; not by washing dirty linen in public.

I would NEVER have written such a letter; It is simply NOT DONE and is an indication of his POLITICAL IMMATURITY!

-------------------------------
I commented on this earlier as well. I was very surprised the way the letter was written. One they this letter would be a worst disgrace than all other incidents that occurred up to now.

This letter can only come from a women (or Ponnaya). Would be very interested to know who actually gave him the idea of the resignation letter.

Jambudipa said...

dear s. udana,

/*
Here you are trying to intellectually blackmail me.
*/

i had no intention of blackmailing you. i do apologise if i cuased any mind hurt.

/*
Change that you want to happen is to bring people who were dong their utmost best to stop destruction of LTTE.
*/

i supported white vans and complete destruction of LTTE. i also understand we need to evolve into the next phase. what i have always maintained it the present govt is ill equipped to manage post-war nation. if it were, none of these problems would have arrived in the first place.

Ananda-USA said...

Keshara said...

[Though that letter shows he is emotionally unbalanced; it is a brainchild of bankrupt RW and his clan. However, I cannot reject a true warrior until he proves himself otherwise. A true warrior may use all weapons available to him in order to achieve the ultimate goal including sleeping with the enemy.]

Keshara,

1. An emotionally mature man in command of his own ego and ambition does not let KNOWN DESHADROHIS dictate his letter of resignation or his political platform. This is the very kind of weak ethics that make RW unacceptable as Sri Lanka's Prime Minister. No matter what, the nation MUST NOT BE PUT UP FOR SALE as RW did time and again in the last 30 years.

2. I don't know what you mean by a "true warrior" or how that is relevant to becoming the President of Sri Lanka. I do not accept the notion that forming alliances with KNOWN DESHADROHIS who SF himself was attacked by, and SF himself had assailed, when he was leading the army should be among "all weapons" acceptable for use in attaining ANY GOAL.

Are the TREASONOUS activities of the DESHADROHIS now to be swept under the carpet, just because SF needs help to be elected? Sleeping with the enemy is NEVER ACCEPTABLE when the integrity of your country, and the lives of your people are at stake. NEVER! How can such a man EVER HOPE to be TRUSTED AGAIN by the people?

3. The PROPER ETHICAL APPROACH SF should take if he wants to run for President is:

A. Form a party of his own excluding the DESHADROHIS and without allying himself with them,

B. Create a political platform spelling out what the policies of his party, the projected path forward, and how it would benefit the nation, and communicate it to the people,

C. Appeal directly to the people for their vote in the election, and abide by their decision .. whatever it may be.

That is how a MAN OF HONOR, A WAR HERO, and an UNWAVERING PATRIOT should conduct himself.

If he does that, he will retain the love and gratitude of his people, and the respect and love of those comrades in arms who joined him to save the nation in its darkest hour.

The path he is taking now is guaranteed to degrade his standing among the people, and expose him as just another devious unprincipled politician who does whatever is expedient to achieve his current personal goals.

I am extremely sad to see my great warrior hero Gen. Sarath Fonseka committing suicide in this way.

For me, the survival and properity of the Motherland and our people comes FIRST, SECOND and THIRD. I do not support those who fail to serve that SACRED DUTY, however compelling and complex their REASONS may be.

It is not the SURVIVAL OF THE LEADERS that is at stake here, but the SURVIVAL of the NATION and its PEOPLE.

Asithri said...

Paan-AmmaHukka

[they (RW-UNP) stood by their conviction war is not the solution]

Wow!

Sorry, we did not know that!

LMSSAO!!!

Yes, I did not know that as much as I did not know that your para-wesa amma, an unpatriotic whorebitch, gave birth to you phlegm-dog in a mudukkuwa!

[thats fine now redundant]

Really? So very easily dismissed what RW Ponna-bitch did, so very conveniently forgotten?

ha ha ha…

[ what matters now who is better for the next phase]

"Better for the next phase" so we want to elect:

1) the RW cocksukcer who let in 19 shiploads of weapons for the LTTE by asking SLN to “back off” and thereby directly was responsible for at least 10,000 lives of our brave Ranavirus?

2) the RW cocksucker who allowed LTTE to roam all over the Island and bump-off all LTTE opponents, including SLA MI officers, some who were shot right in front of their children?

3) the RW cocksucker who gave legitimacy to LTTE whereby they were like ambassadors of the country “thamileelam” and traveling all over the world, all expenses paid by GOSL, preaching their vile separatist-racist doctrine to world over?
Yeah, so I guess we are confused who is better for the “next phase” uh?

Para RW-wesa-balla pakaya, kiyapan umbey wesa-ammata mama enawa kiyala…ekikgey huttha iranna langadima.

LMSSAO!! ! Truly LMSSAO!!!

OaO Asithri

p.s. Sam, I think it is time to post once again the charge-sheet that people of SL have against RW ponna-huttha. Yes, keep it handy and post it at every other day to get the message out. Thanks mate.

Jambudipa said...

buddy sam,

if you look close enough, both govt and opposition trying to woo ex-LTTE. one side is no better or worse than the other. nothing here to complain about. please move on.

aka said...

Well if u want proof about ltte conspiring internationally u just have to google a bit. But since it seems ur unable 2 do so (or unable to accept de fact),

1. LTTE elections (starting frm norway).

2. War crimes charges

to indicate a few.


Also as i can remember MG stressed the need of eelam quite few times.

U C, one not needs to wave ltte flags and shout ltte slogans to be ltte. Actions prove it.


And why i trust MR over SF,
MR have once fooled all those anti-war factors (NGO, top buisness) and LTTE when he gt electd in 2005. (i heard this frm a reliable source)

Jambudipa said...

asty,

your montessori knowledge of war can be trashed without any hesitation. problem is i would be giving my time to a dumb turd. that is why i will not.

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