A cautionary note on the present situation re Gen Fonseka. Our task was to allow things to settle down on their own which has worked. However, recent developments led particularly by a section of the diaspora Sinhalese is a cause of concern for DefenceWire.
DefenceWire team's stance up to now has been to avoid commenting on this dispute knowing fully well the capacity of both the present government and SF to come to a compromise on:
1. The direction the Sri Lankan Military will take
2. The direction General Fonseka would have to go
These may not be the most ideal directions for either, yet they are ones that are at best described as realistic and unavoidable.
There are many moves by politically motivated Sri Lankans, including Sinhala groups and also non Sinhala Sri Lankan groups to exploit a disagreement that has unnecessarily spilled over into the public's eye due to politics in the military and a very small section of the military in politics.
These groups, particularly those civilians involved who are not insiders or have little inside information can or will not understand the discipline of a professional soldier to take what he wants and to relinquish duty when required sans insubordination.
A professional soldier is not Dutugemunu. The Sri Lanka Army/Military is a modern Army/Military positioned within a democratic society. The professional soldiers serving in it will know when to let go. By asking them to perform a larger role based solely on selfish motives of individuals in the periphery, they may destroy that soldier and even themselves and their reputation.
The Sri Lankan Military and its leaders are now hailed the world over for their victorious feat. Their role in bringing peace to the country through military means will be remembered for decades to come as the ultimate example of a trained military executing its sacred task flawlessly from start to finish. But remember this, dear readers, military action is a means of achieving the end and the end is always political.
DefenceWire, as an impartial site whose work you have witnessed for over 3 years now wish to appeal to our readers to refrain from joining or supporting either 'camps' and to allow the professional soldier and professional politicians to resolve potentially resolvable issues mentioned above.
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«Oldest ‹Older 3401 – 3600 of 4363 Newer› Newest»DavidW,
You are something good that happened to this blog. Keep it up mate, I hate Mervia type MFs. Here we have some old farts who think that they have Mervin Cartel here to say their bed time stories to others.
Some are trying to argue borrowed cases to show their patriotism over others with hair splitting arguments while others trying to intimidate whole bolg with filth.
SF’s entry into politics is end of MR and DW.
UNP has already lsot the election.
Therefore it may not matter to them what they really do in the campaign.
Who knows? Only time will tell. Already SF is saying (Lankadeepa) that he will try to abolish executive presidency in 6 months as opposed to that he is bound to abolish Executive Presidency.
The observation is that SF's entry into the election has not stirred the public in general but UNP voters have shown some enthusiasm for the reason that that if Ranil had presented himself for the election then he would have lost the election big time.
Nevertheless, one cannot surely say yet what is happening with the floating vote. The floating vote trends will only be visible at least three to four weeks into the campaign(by the first week of January).
taiti
Panhinda;
There is a limit for hypocracy. One good post followed by a complete day dream. If you write facts instead of daydreams of yours I believe there will be some sanity consistently, but right now, you're swaying between reality and imagination.
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Re: Cost of living you said
[[that is correct. this is because rajapske knows nothing about the economy]]
Nop. It is not an individual crime by Rajapakse. All the previous govts did the same. RW days were pretty stable as world economy was.
If you say tat none of SL politicians know about good economy planning, I may agree. But right now this is not a problem local to Rajapakse. Especially when a scum like RW makes our economy so much reliant on western trends a 0.5% economy down in US will cost a 25% hike in SL.
Sometime back, when teh economic hitmen sold the idea of globalization, ppl admired truly global economies. But now when the mythical bubble of western economic supremacy burst and many such "global" economies lost most of its gamble overnight, nowadays ppl talkabout semi-self-sufficiency. To make at least most critical components of the economy local and independent. It is not a lunatic socialist sense, but a real common sense.
And of coursde RW, who is himself almost is a hitman on SL, will never understand it. They're reliving 70s and 80s, the good old days of JRJ uncle. They do not see the reality. Behind MR's corruption he is trying to make the feeble SL economy somewhat stable and independant. Praise that if you know 1.5 cents of economics - I mean contemporary, not age-old.
Now, note taht MR [or anyother] has to do this with a the burdens posted by prev leaders. The loans, corruption, war speendings and all. Mr may take x% for BR. But note taht MR is unintentionally paying y% for Gamni Dissanayake's corruptions, and z% for Rat-What-te. It is cumulative. [And of course any real take aways of Dhanuna T is also in it, if any]
Also another point is taht MR is doing some (100-[x+y+z])% of development [which is still teh bigger share of it. His predeccessors RW, and CBK took 100% off and there had been NO development programs in SL. If you doubt, pls have a look at MR's development programs, like flyovers, power stations, bypasses, tunnels, harbors etc. They all complete within time with a pretty good % original goals met. But it is not the same for what his prev numbers started, such as Kottawa-Matara highway, or Kukule project, KIA runway extensions etc. Only 100% loss of MR is Himin air, but that is still not dead.
[[money dont grow on trees. without making money by reducing corruption and economic best practice, mahinda rajapaske spending money like there is no tomorrow.]]
On development projects I tell you. Most pretty much friendly loans. Compare this with JRJ [Gamini's appleestates on hitman loans], Premadasa [clock towers and gam-uda BD party on foreign aid], CBK [nothing but just the money missing, SB mansion, CBK castle in UK], and RW [nothing but Sathoisa is missing together with many other such things].
[[when there is no money he prints more with his face. you cannot go on printing money without side effects. side effects such as one noted below]]
This is the priome peak of hypocracy. Jealousy and hatred purely. Man printed a symbolical amount of notes. Not like Mugabe did. SL economists are far bettertahn your two neuron economics. Recently we never experienced such inflation from excess money printing. Last time we felt it was when Premadasa and CBK were in power.
[[Little change in essential food prices despite tax cuts]]
Talk about true issues like Duddley Sirisena's rice monolpoly. Siripala's medication corruption etc. Do not go blind shooting at everything.
Nothing much will happen other than you loose whatever credibility you have among others.
Moshe/DEsha/Sam/SU and all;
Pls discard Asian Tribune. DBSJ and other such weelam sites when we discuss this. They are taking opportunity to shoot at both SF and MR. Right now time is ripe to shoot at SF, but when Sf returns with equally bad remarks, you will hear worst things about MR and GR.
Simply they're taking prime crop of teh division.
If we hate SF for associating with top scums and traitors of nation, why do we associate with eelamists to defame SF.
Most of those said about SF sound crap. Habit being so, I'd have heard of them before. SL is too small for air sealed secrets.
Hicorp, and Desha's Muhamalai may or may not be true, but rest of AT crap is creatively written defamation of SL heroes. SF with all the scums around is a potential president of SL, and on this moment I stand by him against the eelam plot.
Cheers.
sk,
i don't believe that but there is a possibility. AT has a history of supporting tamil elam.
at the same time lankaguardian which ALSO support anti-SL stuff is behind SF!!!
govt MUST investigate these allegations.
the sex offence thing, if true, must be in records. if so, govt MUST release it to the public.
a war hero must onduct himself as a war hero. NOTHING is permanant.
his new found friends make it very difficult for him to remain a hero. hope he will, but i have my doubts.
Its now official that nominations will be called on Dec 17 and PE to be held in January 20s. I believe its ok to use this space as the result of next PE directly related to SL defence. Some bloggers may remember that I said "if his is the way MR wanted to treat SF I can confirm he lost one vote" and that was my quick decision from heart based on the info available 1 month ago.
Then I took a break until the speculation is over and took time to take a decision with careful thought. This analysis is based on the information available in public domains. This note is for the rational patriotic voters rather than people like panhinda, rana with his other 20+ handles and other UNP hardcore/ propaganda elements. I have to give credit for deshapluwa for his correct prediction on SF.
1.Candidates
There may be around 10 candidates and one of them will be called common candidate. Since MR is contesting from the ruling party and if there are more than two candidates, common candidate from opposition does not make sense. So we may understand common candidate means common for a few parties in opposition and not for entire opposition. It would have been nice if they could use some other name instead of common candidate which doesn't make sense and self
contradictory. Main battle will be between MR and SF. We can expect from both sides to field their own dummy candidates as well.
2.War Credit
It seems some still wondering who should get credit for war victory or who is the hero. The important thing is we should realize this is to choose our president for next 6 years and not an award selection for the war victory.
Anyway, for those who still think in lines of war victory its not hard to understand these facts. No 1 is there was a military victory. From the president to single soldier should share the credit. Namely, MR the president, GR defence sec, SF SLA commander, WK Navy commander, RG SLAF commander, STF, police, SW CDF commander then division commanders and 200,000+ troops whos names are unknown in the military front - In political front MR the president, RathnasiriW PM, BR, RohithaB, and other UPFA ministers and all their supporters - In diplomatic front DayanJ, PrasadK, PalithaK and other men. So its clear the military victory is a result of a combined team effort and not due
a single person.
Another way to look at this is ask who should you blame if we lost the war? If you blame some one when bad thing happened you better give credit to the same person when he achieved.
3.MR vs SF
We may assume we need to choose between MR and SF (disregarding others if any) and analyze who is the best choice for the country. We are yet to get formal policy statement from either side. However, we don't take decisions
totally based on such a handout - its not legally binding. We consider what they say in rallies, what their past behavior and actions and who are the people surrounding them. (If you want to judge some one, one easy way is to look at who are his friends.)
4Policy statements
This is kind of fairy stories. There are standard promises any political party include and more promises you give more marketable it is.
I am not sure what MR is going to present but I expect some out line related to development and some sort of 'solution' - so called political solution and specially a northern development plan. SF may present abolishing EP and corruption free government. Since they haven't given such statements yet I skip into other two factors.
5.Career Records
MR: MR stands as the best president SL produced in post independence era and perhaps top 10 rulers in 2500 years history.
Good - He is experienced, proven able, successful, determined, brave, patriotic democratic leader. He has shown that he can identify right people, get the job done, work with even opposing party members.
Bad - Too much tolerance toward own party members when they go beyond limits.
SF: SF is new comer with maximum two months experience as a politician when PE is held. He is not tested. Last 40 years he was trained and practiced taking orders from above and passing them down. He was proven good general -
however, doing great in one filed doesn't imply you do well in another field - politics. Further, we are not seeking a man for another military offensive with any party.
Good - He is determined.
Bad -
Its well known that SF doesn't talk to WK. Such an attitude is not of any great human - not definitely for a leader or team
player. I believe its GR's great coordination that made tri-forces combination a wining team.
He sent SamanthaS who failed in Muhamale while he sent home ParakramaP who took Thoppigala. PP was accused of stealing 800 rupees worth furniture from army and also accused of treasury stealing but proved innocent in court. His issue was with PrasannaS then SF commander also well known. This shows in general he has problem with working people and personal choice comes before treating the talent.
He was a confident commander but totally opposite as a politician. He wanted 48 hours to answer a
question and he couldn't keep his promise either.
I think its VP's ego that finally broght his death at NDKL lagoon. SF always talk about I, me, my, mine and thats not a good quality. SF's ego is such that he wanted to go above even GR the def sec and MR the president. The infamous Muhamale 'army only' attack proves how disastrous could be his ego driven projects.
Its said he has a problem saluting and calling sir to GR, his boss simply becuz GR was his junior when he was in SLA. This kind of ego level tarnish his discipline even as a soldier. If he can't understand the fact that he as a soldier must respect def sec who is now a civilian irrespective of he is your junior in a different system then this man is not in right mind.
SF had an opportunity to show how committed he is toward anti-corruption by vacating his official residence soon after he retired - Instead man was crying for house. It was him who asked for resignation and he has no proper house to live in SL. If he couldn't plan for his families own future, I mean a basic thing like a place to live after retirement, how he is going to solve problems of other people?
A man betray his own friends who pave the way for his success, who protected him all alone and join with his enemies who once insulted him to serve us..? I don't believe people in SL are so much lucky to have leaders like that.
For me, I don't want a foreign citizen, even a GC holder to be president of my country.
[I believe its the responsibility of the GSL provide sufficient security for any citizen including SF. However, its determined only by defence authorities and not by individual himself. I hope GSL has provided sufficient security and unfortunately there is only one way to prove defence ministry is wrong.]
6.Their Teams
MR is with clearly patriotic team. He has every one who was with him all alone all the PC elections.
SF is with anti-SL, anti-nationalistic camp and US embassy is clearly behind him.
7.Accusations
Against MR there are only 4 major accusations.
1. Mervin Silva: Its non other than CBK now sitting with UNP who appointed MS as a MP via national list after he came last in the list. MR can't remove any MP from parliament. For some reason MR is not interested removing people from his party (CBK, MAngalaS, are still members.) Only thing MR can do is removing him from minister post which may result in joining him UNP. There is no guarantee that Mervin will not join UNP led government in such a case.
2. 100+ ministers: In this system any MP can change sides without losing his seat. Thus any president has to satisfy all of them and only way is giving some portfolios. This will be the case for any president and this cannot be avoided unless we have a military rule or change law. Its highly unlikely any MP voting to give up his chance to change side without losing seat.
3.Family rule/ Sahodara samagama: Any president will chose his team and nothing to complain they are relatives provided work is done.
4. Corruption: For any government this charge is valid. If you check outside world you will see military juntas are more corrupted than democratic ones.
5. EP: All oppositions protest against EP since LalithA. Cycle is you promise to abolish it when you in opposition and when you come to power you will find you don't have 2/3 to do so and cycle continues.
Unless you were born after 1985 I believe rest will consider all these accusations as 'minor'.
We expect no accusations against SF as he is brand new politico but the main accusation seems his 20/20 commission for DanunaT. SF did right thing by filing a case so that media can't talk about it anymore and we know court can't rule it within days. Next is about LasanthW, UpaliT, KiethN (media attacks).
8.What IF
IF MR wins there wont be any thing different. Then UPFA will get 120+ for sure in GE, we will get another 100 minsters depending on how voters do on preferential and hence a stable ruling party will be there for next 6 years. This may facilitate economic development while his extended family will do as they do now. SF will probably go to Oklohoma, UNP's eternal leader will contest for GE.
If SF wins what will happen no one knows. If I asked from 10 SF supporters I will get 10 different scenarios.
According to UNP he will abolish EP and will become ceremonial president within 180 days. After that I don't know what difference is there for him compared to his jobless CDS position. I also, don't know why any one votes for him abolish EP and become jobless person and how this sacred hero can control corruption by giving up all the powers. OTOH, there is no known legal way to do so unless UNP has 2/3 and in such case what he will do is totally his choice and its unknown.
According to JVP RW cannot be PM. It takes usually months JVP to set up an alliance and days to break from it. In this case their unofficial marriage can break up within seconds.
Since SF is not a member of any known party he is not bound even by party constitution. Even now the EP can be controlled somehow via his own party and that space for democracy too will vanish.
According to my UNP friends its basically going to UNP government.
According some other his supporters SF is going to kick out ManoG etc and colonize north with SLA families and military sort of rule will be there.
My guess is, since the the only reason SF coming to politics is his ego plus power greediness and as the hindrance is MR/GR he will remove both of them from big picture. I don't see any genuine plan he has toward country apart from borrowed UNP/INGO vocabulary and Its not hard to see his intention of revenge from 1.GR, 2.MR, 3.WK, 4.JJ and their SLA men.
In either case, we can expect political instability in SL for a long time. Since the only common thing the sponsors of common candidate have is the objective of removing MR after results released nothing common will be there. If UNP get power via SF we can expect JVP to go for mass protests against privatization, private universities, power devolution, federal etc and thereby reduce sinhala youth by another 50,000. This will give USA and western powers more control over SL and any India/China players may make it even worse.
9.Vote Distribution and some Remarks
SF will get 30% UNP island wide vote base. This is the vote base who will vote (we say) even for "polpiththa" contesting from UNP. Muslim votes in general are for UNP and we can assume they get those as well. Tamil votes may be reduced by 50% even if UNP get the support from TNA,CWC etc. However, fielding a separate tamil candidate may prevent those votes being end up in MR's ballot box. Some new voters too may vote for a 'change' - I am not sure how many. SF may attract those who left UNP due to its anti-war plus federal stance. Any UNP voter get more confidence to vote for SF instead of their serial loser. Those who were victims of anti-MR (LNW type) propaganda, who became recent haters of MR, and JVP 200,000 vote base who in general hate the society will vote for SF.
For MR, thus his vote base will be reduced from 70% and probably will settle around 60%.
10.Conclusion
When war was there almost all sinhalese supported SLDF and that doesn't imply all of them support or have to support the ruling party. 30% of people are 'kapuwath kola' and among English speaking society and internet users its around 60%.
Its SF's right to contest any election or do politics. Nothing wrong with that and its upto people to decide their future. We need free and fare election and its the decision of people. Finally, people believe what they want to believe - I will vote for MR and If people wants SF, so be it.
Swarnajith Udana,
I ask you to freeze the time and go 2 years back. Did you hear about weapons deals by SF? Did you hear about sex accusation against SF? Well, honestly I did not. We all cheered SF, MR and GR. When the war was over, the very same us is accusing the same man we cheered.
If you want play the accusing game…
a/ How about BR as Mr. 10%
b/ How about Mervin as a drug dealer sponsored by GR?
c/ How about CR as ports minister who got bribes to recruit new men and women for Hambanthota harbor?
d/ How about the land bought by Namal Rajapaksa at Albert crescent? (Former Australian Ambassadors residence) ?
e/ How about killing Lasantha Wickramathunga by GR?
The list is too long!!!!
To all those who accuse SF for weapon deals, I challenge, tell us why GR did not tell us that they buy arms and military supplies from third party agents, before SF break away? GR told us again and again, that weapon deals are done through Lanka Logistics. During the MIG deal, GR iterated that, they are done government to government. Now why suddenly this? There can be only two conclusions:
1. SF was really smart and fooled MR & GR and earned millions of money using his son in law.
2. MR, GR and SF all did make money out of weapons dealing while killing terrorists.
Conclusion [1] seems to be NOT realistic due so many obviously reasons. Any way if it’s true, he’s a genius.
Conclusion [2] is very practical and most probably the reality as well. If that’s case, I really DON”T mind. They did end the damn war.
So don’t be fooled by ‘data’ flooding your head, convert them in to ‘information’ and analyze them.
tata said... “ Nilupul, So who do you suggest as this 'MAN' with a strong heart and head?”
I didn’t suggest any thing. I just tried to show the connections of bit and pieces seemed to be missing right now. (When I posted the comments about India, SF had not made these India accusations in public; I find it’s very interesting to see them)
If we need this ‘MAN’, who could it be? Ranil? Mangala? GR? Absolutely NO!
If it’s SF, he is good candidate, He has shown results by ending the war. He’s still not corrupted by politics. He’s a strong-hearted man. He is a daredevil.
Yes He IS THE ONE!
guys,
don't discount the hyena ranil. there are some STRANGE discrepencies with the SF tie up.
1. SF says he will contest the PE under a newly registered party and his party symbol would be the swan.
2. that means (K)UNA is free to field its own candidate!!!
3. was there any news that SF accepted (K)UNA's conditions???? NO. it only said SF will be the joker common candidate. as ninja pointed out there is nothing COMMON about the common candidate. it is a BIG joke.
4. associating RW's media empire is a good start. it is better for both SF and RW for popularity.
5. SF can do NOTHING if RW contests from (K)UNA. until the nominations time is over (december 22nd??), you never know who will come from (K)UNA.
6. don't forget (K)UNA presented their manifesto WITHOUT SF. and so far no (K)UNA-SF common manifesto!!
7. SF has been now given enough confidence to run his campaign without (K)UNA.
mind you, SF has NOT taken (K)UNA/UNP membership!!!
8. UNP has "unanimously" approved SF as its candidate. can't they be working to a plan (for a change)???? come on guys. which idiot will believe SF will make RW the executive PM??? he cannot do it without changing the constitution and SF can NEVER do that. RW knows this and he is not the type of a politician who will destroy his political future.
nilupul,
you are wrong. there is no need to go back by 2 years. i year is sufficient.
this is one year old. written by a neighbour. also note how this website automatically identifies the commentators' locations.
the "allegations" (nothing more) were there.
SF the person who wrote to military people to instigate them, is the man?
SF the person who said Sri Lanka belongs to Sinhalese, is the man?
SF the person who said Keith Noire should not be scared if he has not done anything dreaming is the man?
For what ? Pol-pttist Hitleristic regime?
Come on, am I dreaming?
Am I pretending to be sleeping?
Am I hallucinating?
If answer to any of these questions "yes" according to you then you should not waste your time.
If "No" then switch sides.
If the answer that I am being misled then thank you very much for your effort to salvage me.
May I tell you that
You are not expressing any views that I have not explored.
I am duty bound to myself to explore
all the sides.
Sometimes I miss. What you are revealing are not something
That article is great Moshe?
Good work. How do you find this kind of stuff?
I am off now.
Ninja said...
When war was there almost all sinhalese supported SLDF and that doesn't imply all of them support or have to support the ruling party. 30% of people are 'kapuwath kola' and among English speaking society and internet users its around 60%.
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Ninja, welcome back. Good analysis.
It is a sad fact that the English Speaking SL are less inclined to be nationalistic and patriotic. This gathi bawaya was the cause of lot of Sri Lankan problems. To get rid of this mentality, somehow SL should empower people from the other parts of the country. This Colombo, Kandy centric mentality was now under pressure by MR and hence there is lot of resistance to MRs leadership.
I think the next 6 or so years of MR presidency would transform SL in to a society where all nationalities, provinces of SL has an input to the direction of the nation.
@ SF 20/20 bullet deal
[I assume some purchases were done directly by each force without going through LLC.]
3 cases.
1. SF did it without knowing MR/GR. SF is really talented and outsmarted MR/GR.
2. SF did it knowing MR/GR. They didn't care.
3. SF didn't do it and this is mud slinging.
In either case GSL need to do investigation. If SF didn't do he really has nothing common to join with UNP.
MD
Its true that until Dec 17 11 am we don't know exactly who will contest. Even after nomination some will 'resign' supporting a certain candidate. However, after publicly expressing support to SF can RW contest with clothes?
re: the US interview..
there is ABSOLUTELY no reason why US should investigate GR's alleged war crimes and not SF's alleged war crimes.
1. i have not come across a defece secretary being charged for war crimes and not army commanders.
2. GR was in the US. apart from a few hours immigration inquiry, there was no problem.
3. we ONLY have the word of SF to say that US was interested in GR's alleged war crimes!!
4. how on earth SF knew that BEFORE the interview???
5. why did SF suddenly leave US and come to SL?? was it bcos GR told him to??? i don't believe it!! he had some other COMPELLING REASON to leave his 2 daughters, cut short his holiday and rush back home.
6. most likely US was getting ready to interview him on HIS alleged war crimes charges (which are BS BTW).
7. the MAIN point raised by GOSL was that SF was under diplomatic immunity and cannot be questioned. he knew he is going to lose it soon. the ONLY way to keep it is to join politics.
8. he also knew he may not get legal assistance as he may want.
ninja,
"However, after publicly expressing support to SF can RW contest with clothes?"
LOL!
1. after surrendering SL to LTTE, RW said war was won bcos of his work!!!
2. any ass can fight -----------> war heroes
3. how many elections has he already lost??? still has the greed for power.
4. in 1999 he had said he will end politics of promises. then he promised gold necklaces, vans, cars, trousers, motor bikes, underwear, TVs, computers, ........................................................................if he won the election!!
U-turns are EASY for RW. he LOVES u-turns.
"he won the election"
i meant IF he won the election.
SF said today he promised not to handover war to next commander and he kept his promise. My understanding was SLDF is responsible for the president and not for mass in general.
More he speaking more votes dropping.
Dear General,
Whatever you would say henceforth, you will remain my hero. You were an important part of the winning team that we are so proud of. That can never be forgotten.
However, I will not vote for you to be the presedent, not because I don't trust you, but I don't trust your new friends.
With friends like those, you don't need enemies.
Just be careful.
An excerpt fro Chritopher Tennant's The Singhalese Chronicles:
"The sentiments embodied in one of the edicts 10 of King Asoca are very striking: "A man must honour his own faith, without blaming that of his neighbour, and thus will but little that is wrong occur. There are even circumstances under which the faith of others should be honoured, and in acting thus a man increases his own faith and weakens that of others. He who acts differently, diminishes his own faith and injures that of another. Whoever he may be who honours his own faith and blames that of others out of devotion to his own, and says, 'let us make our faith conspicuous,' that man merely injures the faith he holds. Concord alone is to be desired."
I have already warned some of you against carrying on with just a wiff against a National Hero. It is sad that two Heroes are pitted against each other. But it seems better to be defeated by a hero now than to be attacked by Jackals later.
Some of you , far from appearing as patriots have appeared like political vassals of late.
Then there is one "Swarnajith Udana" who had intrigued me once before with his cryptic comments and (he once revealed his name to be Ranjith cf Swarnajith) insufferable moral high ground having been aptly exposed at a time when the nation was fighting for its sovereignty.
Now he comes here all of sudden when patriots are once again divided (in the way only Sri Lankans can be), shedding his turds on the blog.
Beware of this Jackal in particular. In case he urges you to sling mud at one hero on behalf of another.
When one points a finger there are three pointing back!
Moshe, in particular beware. You are being led on a Waltz by this guy/gal. It would be a shame if you wake up in the morning having your virginity taken! (if you know what I mean).
Sam is conspicuously absent. Perhaps he could shed light on the ID of this SU character.
In the meantime, if any of you are truly patriotic, I would urge shutting your traps. Otherwise you could be opening a can of worms. MR will not survive such a "can". That would be a pity and you would have delivered him to the true enemies.
Prabaha's Last Moments
At the final stage of the war, Prabha and 40 people closer to him changed to civilian clothes and even without cyanide capsule wanted to join the civilian force and sneaking in to the swamp area. Somehow his son ran in to the soldiers. Soldiers knew who he was, he was crying saying 'appa', 'appa'. When he was questioned, it appeared Prabha was nearby and the child was crying frantically. The soldiers did the smart thing, let the child go and he ran in to Prabha who was hiding nearby. Soldiers followed the child, surrounded the group and the rest is history.
MayilRavana,
I used to comment at AT good posts. However, it is bit off the mark this time and last time with SF. To say that SF never lead the battles from the front is downright dishonest and false. However, I believe that SF got dangerously close to trouble with Dandulena. Bottom line is that corruption is everywhere and nobody should be naive to think that one party is corruption free. SU in the past looked like somebody who was from the Bahu camp, that was my first impression. Then he looked more like somebody seeking peace with LTTE. Now he seems to be taking a hard stance against SF for the clear reasons mentioned by him. It surprised me a bit at first, However, I have met many in SL who echo his sentiment. Their simple point was that SF is good to be an army commander but not to be the CIC. This is partly because his past style and the present appearance. As for me, you know that I am in no mood or shape to dance to the tunes of top scum of Sri Lanka who ridiculed our forces or unresentfully collaborated with LTTE and Eelamists.
RT,
What is the reference to your story?
The background reminds me a bit of Obama campaign.
Sri lanka government did not give Death Certificate of PRABAHARAN to Indian government so Court case postponed.Thank you Unknown Lankan News paper.
Why India got Sarath Fonseka removed
India blasts rivals' role in Sri Lanka By Siddharth Srivastava
Jun 14, 2009
NEW DELHI - India is not happy with the important military role it says China and Pakistan played in the Sri Lanka's government decisive ffensive against the Liberation igers of Tamil Eelam (LTTE).
Top government officials in New Delhi have told Asia Times Online that India believes Colombo stockpiled arms and even sought help from military commanders from China and Pakistan before the offensive that decimated the iberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam (LTTE) and eventually killed Tiger chief Vellupillai Prabhakaran in May.Chinese and Pakistani arms and direction were the "clinching" factor in the military's victory, top official sources have told ATol.
"With China's increasing role and presence in Nepal and Pakistan, and Pakistan's in Bangladesh, New Delhi is looking at recalibrating its passive diplomatic approach towards Sri Lanka," said one senior official, who wished to remain anonymous."While its main tussle for influence in the South Asia region is with China, India's immediate concern is Pakistan due to the country's role in the past of launching clandestine terror activities, as has happened in Bangladesh," the official added.
Sources say that India has been concerned about Pakistan's reported supply to the Sri Lankan government of al-Khalids (Pakistan's main battle tank), training for fighter pilots, and advanced rocket launchers.China has also reportedly increased its military relationship with Sri Lanka since 2007. In April that year, Sri Lanka signed a secret US$38 million pact to urchase Chinese ammunition and ordnance for its army and navy, Jane's Defense Weekly has reported. China also gave Sri Lanka six F-7 jets in 2008, supposedly free of charge, according to the Stockholm International Peace Research nstitute, to counter the Czech-made Zlin-142s that made up the LTTE's small air force.India fears that Beijing, with the help of Pakistan and possibly Sri Lanka, plans to encircle its influence in the Indian Ocean. It is concerned about a deep-water port being built with Chinese help in Hambantota, on Sri Lanka's south coast, and has long objected to Chinese involvement in the Gwadar port in Pakistan's Balochistan province.National Security Advisor M K Narayanan said in 2007: "We [India] are a big power in the region. We don't want the Sri Lankan government to go to Pakistan or China. Whatever may be their requirement, the Sri Lankan government should come to us.''
But the Sri Lankan army chief said in a recent interview that Colombo had to seek out China and Pakistan for arm as India was reluctant to sell it any for use against the LTTE. New Delhi has not been keen to supply "offensive" arms to Sri Lanka due to domestic political considerations in the south Indian state Tamil Nadu.
From top...
why India got Sarath Fonseka removed
Tamil political groups have resisted any supply of arms to Colombo, so New Delhi offered it only defensive capabilities such as radars,despite some sections of the government seeking greater Indian involvement in the conflict.Sympathy towards Sri Lankan Tamils has remained high in Tamil Nadu due to cultural and linguistic affinities. The state's incumbent chief minister, M K Karunanidhi of the Dravida Munnetra Kazhagam (DMK), went on a brief hunger strike in April in protest of the civilian casualty toll from the Sri Lankan army offensive.India has thus been guarded in its actions to the recent end of the Sri Lankan conflict, choosing to focus on humanitarian aspects. The Foreign Ministry said in May, "India will work with the people and government of Sri Lanka to provide relief to those affected, and to rapidly rehabilitate all those who have been displaced." India will have to calibrate its strategies carefully in the wake of the involvement of other regional players in the elimination of the LTTE. Some observers also say that India, with its major stake in Sri Lanka's peace process, needs to play a bigger role in pressurizing Colombo to move in the direction of federalism and autonomy for Tamil areas.Given the close links between the populations of Tamil Nadu and Sri Lanka, the former will need to use its regional presence to ensure that the minority Tamil interests are protected in its neighborhood.
Prime Minister Manmohan Singh has said that the plight of the Tamils was much larger than the LTTE, and that he hoped Sri Lanka would show imagination and courage in meeting the legitimate concerns and aspirations of the Tamil people.
The LTTE exploited ethnic strife between the majority and minority communities in Sri Lanka. If the genuine grievances of the Tamil minority are not met, another group could soon do the same.
Siddharth Srivastava is a New Delhi-based journalist. He can be reached at sidsri@yahoo.com
(Copyright 2009 Asia Times Online (Holdings) Ltd. All rights reserved.
Dear DW bloggers - We now have an election coming up, probably a very decisive one at that. Shall we do a little bit of a backtracking and summarize what we have seen over the last few decades? I will start with my own "rudimentary observations" over the last 3 decades (not comprehensive by anymeans). I will not talk about the war itself as enough had been spoken about it. What follows is based on "development" and as you would see I see myself as a development addict (not a blind one though).
I vididly remember when JRJ came to power in '77 for I, with my family, spent the whole night listening to election results sipping coffee!!. I was in Junior Secondary school and didn't have that much maturity to understand the politics at that time. For me it was perhaps the first national event that I could understand to some extent.
I remember reading happily about development projects at that time with all talk about Sri Lanka would soon be a developed country. Things were happening in Sri Lanka. There was development. Whether corruption was there at that time, I did not really care. Probably I did not understand the word that much at that time.
When the infamous Black July came I was still at school. Walked home with everything blazing on the sides of roads. When the war started I was sad as rate of development really slowed down and this was worst during 87-88 period. With the crushing of that insurgency I was happy as we could see the development to some extent once again. But the rate was quite slow. There were no mega projects to be proud of. Development to me at that time was primarily that of infrastructure. With the "idiot box" I guess we could see where other countries were heading - High rise buildings (better use of space), highways etc., I remember how happy I was seeing the world trade center coming up in early 90's. I used to count floors everytime I passed it. Call me an idiot!! There was development (at least people outside western province felt it) during president Premadasa's time and everytime I heard about how president Premadasa used to call Ministry Officials 4:30 in the morning to check the progress of projects I was happy as it was all pointers to the development. But then again there was nothing to boast about.
Then I was out of the country and throughout I was dreaming about when SL could match these developed countries in terms of infrastructure. I deeply felt that the war was at least shattering my dreams of seeing a developed country. I was just wondering whether this would ever finish during my life time.
Back in the country I could see some development in Colombo - Baseline road getting completed, Airport getting a new wing. But nothing much happened outside Colombo as if the development was only for Colombo/Western Province.
When UNP came to power in 2002 I thought there would be development. Sadly there was none. They just shelved Norachchali and Upper Kotmale knowing very well how severe the power issue was. They went for high cost Diesel option. I was simply mad at them for not starting these projects and obviously about Millennium city incident as well.
The major difference in the current regime that I see is development happening everywhere despite war was running at full steam. Whether there is corruption or not, this would be an indicator of excellent decision making. Recently saw a comment somewhere that states the reason for starting mega projects was that commissions were also "mega". Good theory. This means that we should never initiate mega projects and we should divide it to zillions and give it in on an open tender for full transparency!!! Then someone has commented "parawal kannada?" !! I feel sorry about their brain capacities. (I guess you all have seen many insane, brain dead people in places like DM online)
To be contd.
Cont.
Do we need to worry too much about corruption as long as there is a visible development which directly benefits people? No doubt we need to address the issue of corruption. We need to address the root cause of it.
If you are still not sure of development happening in SL, take 3 days leave and take a drive down south and to the east and also to the north now. Roads are coming up - not just patching of roads - quality roads - precursor to more development. Development that has been limited to Colombo has been taken to all parts of the country. Let’s take those colored glasses out (if you are wearing them) and objectively look at what is best for the country based on what we have seen over the last few years. Let’s also look at who would stand to benefit from stopping or slowing down of some mega projects here – particularly development of ports.
One last comment about economic (mis)management: I have read countless times that SL economy was about to collapse but yet to see the impact of such a collapse. If any one of you is a sane economist, I would really like to hear a neutral view. I have never seen a subject that is so politicized and it is difficult to believe anything.
To talk about development, we need to have a country. I am grateful to all those who made this country free again.
All these were happening with a "very weak" government (with a jumbo cabinet!) which in November 2008 was not sure about passing the budget. What could happen if we have a "strong" government? Food for thought. no doubt.
Let's make this blog more meaningful rather than attacking MR, SF etc.,
SR@LK,
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Do we need to worry too much about corruption as long as there is a visible development which directly benefits people?
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many countries do both very well. certainly countries such as singapore and japan could not have developed at a rapid pace without tackling corruption early.
now, i dont know about you but most would want to see sri lanka becoming another singapore in their lifetime. its not that hard because right now someone is saying its possible.
why cant Mahinda Rajapaske stop thieves stealing money that belong to hardworking people of the country?
Tata (to Nilupul)
“So who do you suggest as this 'MAN' with a strong heart and head?”
Nilupul
First says “I didn’t suggest any thing” and then says “ I just tried to show the connections of bit and pieces seemed to be missing right now. If it’s SF, he is good candidate, He has shown results by ending the war. He’s still not corrupted by politics. He’s a strong-hearted man. He is a daredevil.
Yes He IS THE ONE!”
hehehehe….a good one Nila-massa.
A nice curved ball, however, the crafty approach was at the end too simplistic and is visible for all to see for what you are here – a RW=LTTE wesa-dog out to destabilize our Motherland.
Fraud, corruption cost SL Rs 1,000 bn in 20 yrs
http://www.tisrilanka.org/?p=1202
This is equal to 8.72900 billion U.S. dollars.
In other words cost of Mahavali project if it was done from scratch 24 times.
Mervyn requests for enhanced security due to military threat
LoL :)
Labor Minister Mervyn Silva has reportedly requested the President to enhance his security claiming his life was under threat from a certain regiment in the Army. He has added that his family was also under threat.
Panhinda,
Development or not, corruption or not, for the blatant anti Sri Lankan acts committed by the top scum of Sri Lanka, and for their unwillingness to reform, they shall be sent to gallows not to any political office. SF was a hero in the past and it will not change, however he has become a top scum worshiper, which is disgraceful and disrespectful of all the sacrifices by our men and women. Anybody dancing to the tune of remorseless top scum of Sri Lanka is not worthy of any political office.
PaanGulla
"why cant Mahinda Rajapaske stop thieves stealing money that belong to hardworking people of the country?"
Because sometimes the corruption is deep rooted and unsuspectingly done by so called trusted friends.
Example: HiCorp
B#1, mervin vermin imagine white van going to pick up soon. not just him many more seem worried.
Ninja
"rather than people like panhinda, rana with his other 20+ handles and other UNP hardcore/ propaganda elements"
hehehehe good one mate.
yes all of a sudden we have a "new" crop of IDs in the blog as if when cockroaches scatter after bug spray!
Reminds me of the lead up to Nanthikadal superlative.
Then too we had all kinds of new IDs coming here and talking of "corruption" "corruption" and more "corruption" and trying their best to stop the war.
Now it is a different motive of course, but the end-game remains the same.
General Sarath Fonseka`s Press Conference
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VkF7VVkQ8jo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YwWULRoRbvE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDvs5Oh9vYA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvwu-lw9vsI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzqnSkGBy-I
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4cabBUGE7I
I will take my hat off to Mervin any day over RW ponna huttha and his traitor clan.
Not long ago I saw a video of how Mervin was confronting LTTE amma-hukas in Italy when they were burning the SL flag and insulting Buddhism.
Naturally for undercover LTTE agents here (many pretending to be of Sinhala origin and expressing "concern for Sri Lanka") Mervin is more of a problem than Mano Gona.
buddy ninja,
deluge of info there. cursory glance appear to give many misleadng statemtnts. good stuff though appear to be 'balanced' initially.
i think you lost credibility with
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This note is for the rational patriotic voters rather than people like panhinda, rana ..
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Another good one from Prof. HM!
The General (retd) and Presidential Ambitions
Posted on November 28th, 2009
Prof. Hudson McLean
Until the publicity related to HiCorp led by the son-in-law of General (retd) Sarath Fonseka hit the News Headlines through AsiaTribune, I had a great deal of respect for General (retd) Sarath Fonseka.
Leading the military and other Defence Forces against the Tamil Tiger Terrorist LTTE to victory placed Fonseka on a high pedestal.
His skills as a frontal leader and to win a 30 year old war in less than 3 years was an admirable féte.
But incorporating the HiCorp by his son-in-law in the USA, where he is now accused of certain alleged fraudulent and possible criminal activities, brings down the gloss in one fell swoop.
It is also alleged that, Fonseka worked together with other Defence Forces high officers to divert military supply orders to HiCorp.
Then it is alleged that, Fonseka wished to appoint some of his close associates to replace the Ranks upon his retirement, possibly to continue this commercial insider-deal, malpractice.
Fonseka who was given the full security detail as he desired, by President Mahinda Rajapaksa, is now traversing as the President-in-Waiting, in style. From the images and the body language, one might observe that Fonseka is brushing aside all the negative signs with aplomb.
If and when Fonseka won the mandate to lead the country, corruption which he wishes to eradicate, will have a free hand led by Fonseka family, HiCorp and other members of the Club HiCorp. This is very bad news indeed.
http://www.lankaweb.com/news/items/2009/11/28/the-general-retd-and-presidential-ambitions/
Panihinda,
Yes. When SF elected as president, what will be the Mervin's fate do you think?
lol :p
Fukkface said,
"I will take my hat off to Mervin any day"
Is that all?? :) oka kolu karayeklu..
SR@LK/Panhinda;
Panhinda is diluting the value of his posts by always adding his day dreams. Just because "someone said" taht he will develop the nation he is gonna believe that all the magic will arrive. Uey he's failing to see the actual development that has already materialized in most parts of the island.
We are not voting for assumptions and predictions. We can always vote for the progress of past 4 yrs.
I would sit really close to SR @ LK in pov. I was also away from SL during teh same period and almost counted most stairs and kms in building and highways. If development is measured with such, yes I dream of them and enjoy them coming true. Following is what I learnt in my life about each era.
JRJ:
- mega projects
- aim is to grab as many loans as possible [GaminiD and JRJ planned to get over-estimated loans for mahaweli and hence they were used to take most evaluators to sites via puttalam/wilpattu/mannar/vavunia roads]
- Projects did not lived to a big % of goals.
- lots of unexpected problems coming out of them
- big propaganda big names big projects
- Corruption of mega scale alleged to GaminiD
- Extremely similar to hitman projects as explained by John Perkins
- As per hitman theory the mega loans burdened us and we had to commit our further development dur to it.
RP:
- More genuine interest for development
- Lacked capacity heavily
- Continued loans from same groups
- Lots of money printing lead to infaltion that halved Rupee wrt dollar as allege by many
- Most projects ending propaganda only.
- wasting money on unnecessary things and inapropriate things
- Most work did not continue [mostly as they were so synthetic and inapropriate]
CBK:
- No real development
- Lots of corruption
- War spendings sky-rockets yet no outcome due to corruption
- Lots of money spent on 100% corruption
- heavy privatization
- If any development they were cashed by her friends [Access/Water's Edge incident etc]
- High inflation for no reason
RW:
- No real development
- Rupee stable due to world trends.
- most of the rest is equal to CBK.
- No war but yet no better use of war budget
- Sharing/allowing to share state property among few close friends. [ex Sathosa, which was almost dead in few years still spent for UB40 visit.
MR:
- Allegation of % corruption
- Projects at a fitting scale to the need
- Most plans got underway, and completed on or before due time
- Simple midrange solutions [especially for agrarian]
- Lots of major projects, all focussing development
- Most successful with a good % achievement of original goals.
- managed all these with higest level of war and having paid the loans of JRJ/RP/CBK collectively
This is what diff MR makes.
b#1,
SF no nonsense man. no need to tell you people's almost universal revulsion of mervin vermin.
send him white van, Gen SF become overnight hero.
sujeeva,
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Panhinda is diluting the value of his posts by always adding his day dreams.
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everythin begin wiht a dream.
B1
Glad to repeate:
Yep I will take my hat off the Mervin any day compared to your RW ponna huttha, Mangali (wow, talk about kolu-carpers) and of course RW's friend Mano Gona who has cheered LTTE openly at meetings, gone world over and pleaded with IC to cut off aid to Sri Lanka.
Yo malli, as I told you earlier you appear to be an adolescent here just keying away with no idea of issues.
Learn first as I said to masturbate without spilling all over your computer before coming here and trying to be a cheerleader for RW ponnaya and his anti-SL clan.
hehehehe
SR@LK
/The major difference in the current regime that I see is development happening everywhere despite war was running at full steam. Whether there is corruption or not, this would be an indicator of excellent decision making./
Spot on! Exactly my sentiments too.
Semen's pussycats attack opposite man.
Gee ha, Tamil eelam comes home. Toronto and Tmilnadu. It is your baby anyway.
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Three held for attack on Elangovan’s residence
November 29, 2009 09:45 pm
Petrol bombs were hurled on the residence of former Indian Union Minister E.V.K.S. Elangovan, an LTTE critic, here and three persons of a little known pro-Eelam outfit were arrested in connection with the attack.
The attack occurred late last night after Elangovan, senior state Congress leader, had torn down posters and banners eulogising slain LTTE founder V. Prabhakaran on the occasion of the outfit leader’s birthday at Erode on Friday.
Elangovan was not present during the attack on his residence in which some furniture was damaged.
No one was injured in the attack, Tamil Nadu DGP K.P. Jain said adding that Mithiran, V.C. Mani and Arul, members of ‘Naam Tamizhar’, led by actor-director Seeman, were arrested today.
Seeman was earlier arrested and deported by immigration officials from Canadaon Thursday on charges of making an inflammatory speech against Sinhalese people. Seeman arrived in Chennai today.
Jain said adequate security measures were made in view of the ‘Maaverar Naal’ (Heroes Day), celebrated for three days ending November 27, the day the first LTTE cadre was killed in their war for a separate homeland for Tamils in Lanka.
Prabhakaran himself was killed in the Lankan army offensive in May this year.
Meanwhile, nine persons from different pro-Tamil outfits were arrested in Erode for displaying banners and flex boards eulogising Prabhakaran. Three inmates of the Gummidipoondi Sri Lankan Refugees camp were arrested for hoisting the LTTE flag and possessing posters supporting the banned outfit, he said. – (Press Trust of India)
Fukkface Aiya... :)
I have never post any comments in favour of Jathiye pahara ballo (ponna gansiya). I always against them.
Funny thing is whoever comes against MR, you name them as traitors and comparing with RanilP.
STOP your jokes and teach us something about politics aiye...
PaanPanuwa
/everythin begin wiht a dream./
Not with wet-dreams though.
hehehehe
B1
/I have never post any comments in favour of Jathiye pahara ballo (ponna gansiya). I always against them/
Now aint't that a fact? Not sure about that, but I will give you the benefit of the doubt let's say for now.
However....
mallo, in a contest for PE even if you don't post anything IN FAVOR of Jaathiye Para Ballo but you do post AGAINST the Jaathiye Murakarayo, it amounts to the same thing. This is how the world of politics revolve whether you think it too complex to understand or not.
duh!
hehehehehe
p.s. see, you need to come more often to FukkFace for advice. I will still make a man out of you kollo.
hehehehehe
anoter speech
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8N_e9emodPA
Sujeeva,
I am adding a few to your list.
JRJ:
-Allowed thousands of innocent Tamil Sri Lankans to get killed due to his inaction in July 1983
-Allowed India to meddle with our internal matters right under his nose due to his stupid pro western stance the west could care less about.
-Resulted in the 2nd JVP insurgency due to his anti democratic practices like arbitrarily banning political parties.
RP:
-Partially cleaned up the mess left by JRJ.
-Got screwed by the false belief that LTTE can be negotiated.
-Did not live long enough to carry on his vision.
CBK:
-Got screwed by the false belief that LTTE can be negotiated.
-Bounced back and regained Jaffna Peninsular.
-Mismanaged the war later.
-Left the country in shambles.
RW:
-Gave in to every whim and fancy of LTE terrorist and Velupillai.
-Let unsavory foreign powers run amok with our nation's sovereignity.
-Committed acts of grand treason by handing the heads of our bravest Army Long Range Patrol and Reconnaissance warriors to LTTE.
-Nation's backbone and dignity was brought down to nothing by letting unsavory foreign powers piss on our heads.
MR:
-Started from the lowest point of national security.
-Rebuilt our military
-Provided the best we can provide to our military.
-Led the war effort with iron will and courage.
-Protected our warriors including Sarath Fonseka from all kinds of foreign meddlers.
-Lead the country like hero second to none.
-Liberated the country from LTTE terrorist and Eelamists.
-Restored our backbone and dignity.
-Made us a nation with pride and self respect.
I am very hopeful that he will do his best to mark our nation's place in the world with golden ink. We don't need anybody dancing to the tunes of top scum of Sri Lanka, we need a leader with proven capabilities.
CBK:
b#1,
you should be able to say what ever you want. dont let rajapsake scum tell you what you can and cannot do.
imoff
MayilRavana said...
[Then there is one "Swarnajith Udana" who had intrigued me once before with his cryptic comments and (he once revealed his name to be Ranjith cf Swarnajith) insufferable moral high ground having been aptly exposed at a time when the nation was fighting for its sovereignty.]
Mayil. Bro,
Yes! I remember that phase of Swarnajith Udana's "more-humane-than-thou" activities in collaboration with Rana.
His tune now is decidedly different; I am observing his posts closely.
Sujeewa, Good summary. Let's hope others can contribute in the same objective manner to make it a good comparison for decision making (for voting!)
Mega projects completing on time, is a rarity in SL. But it is happening sometimes ahead of time - Hambantota port is almost 1 year ahead of time.
Thusitha said...
[Srilankan said...
RETD.ARMY OFFICER SARATH FONSEKA
Experience & Achievements: Killing civilians and Terrorists
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Mate, I know you are angry about SF what he is doing to the country, but we cannot put him down like this. It is totally wrong, and most of our beloved army officers had to do this at one stage or the other. Also make sure you don't write killing civilians, that would piss lot of people off.]
Thusitha,
I agree. It is SIMPLY NOT FAIR to accuse SF of such things.
He fought hard and well for his country, and we must honor his military service, whatever his current acts in destabilizing Sri Lanka are.
Panhinda said..
[b#1,
you should be able to say what ever you want. dont let rajapsake scum tell you what you can and cannot do.
imoff]
Panhinda,
You are barking up the wrong tree!
B#1 is not going to take "advice" from a KNOWN EELAMOID!
LoL!
Here is a song for you to GAG ON:
RATNA DEEPA
Ratna Deepa Janma Bhumi
Lanka Deepa Vijaya Bhumi
Me' Ape' Udaara Wu
Mathru Bhumi-yayi
Mathru Bhumi-yayi
Repeat Chorus
Aadi Sinhale' Ae' Vira Meemuthun Layin
Saara Wu Udaara Wu
Mathru Bhumi-yayi
Mathru Bhumi-yayi
Maanikyase' Pologabee' Nidhana Vee
Aththe' Ae' Atheetha Du Puthun
Jathiye' Naamayen Sangrama Bhumiye'
Jeewithe' Puda Heluu Lay Kandai
Chorus
Sindhupamana Wavu Thala Mathin Adee'
Padma Renuwen Sugandha Vee
Ran Karal Namaa Hamaa
Sith Prabhodayen Puraa
Enne' Un Helu Prana Vayuwai
Chorus
Ganga Tharanga Raawa Dee Ridee Vanin
Mal Pipee Kolen Kole' Hapee
Gayana Karanne' Aakasaye' Nagee
Virayange' Ae' Yaso Geetha-yayi
Chorus
Aadi Sinhale' Ae' Vira Meemuthun Layin
Saara Wu Udaara Wu
Maathru Bhumi-yayi
Maathru Bhumi-yayi
Oh! Oh! The Kid Gloves are COMING OFF!
I desperately want the PE & the GE to be OVER ASAP, so we can get on with NATION BUILDING before we completely destroy each other.
THE EELAMISTS are SALIVATING on the porch!
..............
Sri Lanka's former CDS did covert politics at his office, says Defence Secretary
Sun, Nov 29, 2009, 10:18 pm SL Time, ColomboPage News Desk, Sri Lanka.
Nov 29, Colombo: Sri Lanka's Defence Secretary Gotabhaya Rajapaksa said now it is clear to everyone that General Sarath Fonseka had been plotted against the government for a long time, while he was secretly engaged in politics before he retired from the Army.
In an interview with today’s Sunday Lakadeepa edition Nov 29 the Defence Secretary said General Fonseka has apparently had a number of discussions with the opposition during the last few months and now it is obvious that his protests over speedy resettlement and blocking the process posing various security and other reasons were actions carried out upon the interests of opposition while in uniform.
As a result the government had to face severe pressure from the international community. However President Mahinda Rajapaksa managed to expedite the resettlement process, the Defense Secretary said.
Responding to a question he said that security has been given as Fonseka has requested except the five woman soldiers.
"We can't satisfy his unfair demand claiming a contingent of 600 security personnel as he is an ex-military officer and security is provided after careful investigation into the threats that he claimed," Secretary Rajapaksa said.
Finally he said that the General is not a challenge to President Mahinda Rajapaksa.
"We all respected him as a hero, but to no purpose he lost his integrity as he betrayed his leader by supporting anti government moves and his own dream of becoming a politician," the Defense Secretary commented.
General Fonseka announced his bid for presidency today at a media briefing. He is being backed by Sri Lanka main opposition United National Party, Marxist Janatha Vimukthi Peramuna and few other minor political parties.
Very nice one Ananda. This is personal national anthem I found the full meaning after MR started leading the country.
I think that
"Aththe' Ae' Atheetha Du Puthun"
should be read as
"Aththe' Ae' Abheetha Du Puthun"
Ok.
I am against SF.
His mentioning of 13 plus was the breaking point. I had a small hope that he would at least have his own agenda. Now it looks like he is complete follower of Mongal-Ranil agenda. That is a shame. It looks like the ponsies has destroyed our Fonsy (or he may have activated the the self destruction switch).
But having said that,
He played a major part in stopping the terrorists from winning (from early nineties to 2005). And he played the most critical role in defeating the terrorists in the final war. Some of you are trying to take that away from him which gives a bad taste.
After the war both MR and SF are behaving against my wishes. We already lost the window of opportunity we had to fast track the economic and social progress of the country. The Army is deterioration. I hope it stops. But I doubt.
I am in the process of leaving these blogs. But still I can't resist coming back once in a while and having a peek at it (four year old habit hard to die.). Before long it will be permanent.
Let me tell few words to some of you.
Asithri bro.
You were an unwavering patriot. But some times one may have to step back and rethink the strategy and the way to approach
Please do not forget that 'Gedara Budun is Amma' in our culture.
Sam,
I am amazed how genuine you are and your love for the country. I would have loved if you were a personnel friend of mine.
Mayil,
It looks like you are a one of the few who can see the overall picture. I hope your words of wisdom won't go waste.
Ninja,
You have a good analytical mind. Please do not let that waste.
Moshe,
You are the strange one. During the middle of the war you were proposing to replace MR with Rathnasiri Wickremanayake and you are playing a completely opposite role now. Because of many such things I was never were able to understand you.
Rana,
You are a very smart guy. It is unfortunate that you are wasting it.
Adios folks.
I will try to make the above my last.
Q.
The Govt. is accusing that those who funded the LTTE earlier re now funding you ?
A
I am a an individual drawing a pension of Rs. 50,000/-. Out of this amount I cannot carry on my election campaign, you must be aware. Many are helping me financially..Businessmen , people and even small children are helping me. If the LTTE are helping, it is not because of the war, it is because of the programs we have envisaged. If the LTTE are helping therefore, they are welcome.
HA HA So The short answer is 'yes'. These di-ass-pora kalzhuthais always find a way to waste their money.
/In his remarks Gen. (retd) Fonseka said that prevalent executive Presidency is the root of all problems faced by the island nation and said he and those who were behind him were committed to its abolition within six months of his coming to power. However, when questioned how he would exactly go about the job the former Army Chief was vague and said that the details were still being finalised./
This is improvement instead of saying 'i can't answer with this shirt, i will answer within 48 hours'.
Hi, guys...
Hi, guys...
/Funny thing is whoever comes against MR, you name them as traitors and comparing with RanilP./
SL politics is party based and not individual based. This may be hard to understand when people switch sides at a considerable high rate. CBK was anti-nationalistic but she couldn't do what she wanted or INGOs wanted her to do (package). Reason was its the nationalistic camp she was staying with. If MR contest from UNP do you think we will vote for him? This is not about individuals. This is about political forces. Individuals come and go - political forces remain.
several guys in this blog use the formula RW=MG=LTTE=SF....
Are you serius?I mean "do you really believe on that?
SF who used to be a man with principals has lowered him to the level of getting money from LTTE. His stated reason is that he needs that money to come to power. In his SF's mind it is justifiable to take money even from LTTE terrorists to hand over the power to top scum of Sri Lanka. I am sorry Mr. Fonseka, you no longer are the respected war hero.
It seems that, SR@LK's focusing point is on the "development". Apparently he means specially the economic development..
So,SR@LK, do you really believe that the development of the infrastructure is a indication of the economic development of a country?
/hemantha said...
Ok.
I am against SF./
Difference between true patriots and fake patriots..
True patriots - still worrying about SF..
Fake patriots - when news said SF is under US BS war crime investigation blame him with one profile and when he switched sides praise him with another profile..
Sam, you are determined to against SF.. But for wrong reasons I think.
Don't you know that MR also got the support of LTTE during the last presidential election?
How do you puzzle out this apparent contradiction? (I'm aware of the discussion of the same theme on this blog previously)
/Speaking of devolution, Fonseka said a solution migh have to go even beyond the 13th Amendment to the Constitution to suit the present situation./
So basically he has agreed to federalism with ManoG, RHakeem, RW and Mongal.
A determined individual driven by ego, greediness and revenge will do U turn for his objective. An entire force taking U turn due to an individual contradicts common sense.
So we may guess the US/west sponsored Zurich meeting of eelamists step by step blue print for peelaam will come in his policy statement. There is no question that US embassy is behind him.
Its interesting this is analogous situation to CBK come back in 93. Anti-nationalistic pro-west INGO sponsored forces calculated that using their pawn via nationalistic camp they could make a federal SL. Note that main theme in 94 was "dushanaya and bheeshanaya" but real deal was with "package - unitary to federal". And she failed.
Now the move is to use an individual accepted as a 'nationalistic hero' via anti-nationalistic camp to implement 13+ => federal. They will fail and only control point is PE.
Janaki,
I am not for anybody dancing to the tune of top scum of Sri Lanka and Terrorists. The top scum has spent lots of time and money in the past to ridicule our country and armed forces. Some of their acts reach high crime and treason. If SF compete from another team, not to the tune of top scum of Sri Lanka, I can stay neutral. However, as his own supporting site, LankaENews says he is getting money from LTTE. This is on top of playing for top scum. That is a no show for me.
Jaathiye Paahara Ballo (Top Scum of Sri Lanka)
Ranil Wickramasinghe aka Thoppigala Wandura
Lakshman Kiriella aka Yuddakaranberi Booruwa
Ravi Karunanayake aka Pamankada Gona
Vajira Abeywardena
Jayalath Jayawardena aka Madupalli Meeharaka
Mangala Samaraweera aka Gelevimehamudawe Pinagona
Rauf Hakeem
Wickramabahu Karunaratne
Kumar Rupasinghe
Jehan Perera
Sunanda Deshapriya
Sunila Abeysekara
Mano Ganeshan
R Sampanthan
K Sivajilingam
G.K. Ponnambalam
other TNA sakkiliyas
Duleep Chikera
Pakiyasothi Saravanamuttu
Rohan Edirisinghe
Mithra Fernando
Tisaranee Gunasekera
Priyath Liyanage
Rayappu Joseph
Rosy Senanayake
Sonali Samarasinghe
Nimalka Fernando
Sirithunga Jayasuriya
Dayasiri Jayasekara
Iqbal Athas
Lal Kantha
Anura Kumara
Malik Samarawickrama
Lalith Kothalawala
S.B. Dissanayake
Brian Seneviratne
Sisira Jayasuriya
Johnston Fernando
Ranath Premalal Kumarasinghe
Sucharitha Gamlath
Jayantha Senevirathna
Nirmal Ranjith Devasiri
Terrence Purasinghe
Chandrapala Kumarage (Attorney-at-law)
Yohan Devananda
Patrick Fernando
Kumar David
Basil Fernando
Hemantha,
You need to hang around. Please visit us every once in a while, at least. I am confident that we will defeat all the powers that want to see a country spineless bunch of wimps in Sri Lanka.
Sam, Thanks for the immediate reply. I'm not going to ridicule any one personally (in a dispute we all are gain some obscene satisfaction through ridiculing each other.Most of the time this is one of the motor forces behind the functioning of a blog). To things to be clear, I'm politically some where than you on this all problems. I can make it clear if our discussion goes on forward productively.
1.My first impression is that, most of the bloggers, most of the time, act under following logic: While the fundamentalist
ignores argumentation, blindly clinging to
his fetish, the cynic pretends to accept argumentation, but ignores its
argumentative efficiency.
How do we avoid this trap(If you seriously consider the future of the country).
2.What is your dividing line between the friend and the enemy.(some times it seems that the LTTE. But how do you separate/describe Bahu, Anura kumara and RW on this behalf. Those take completely different positions against the back-drop of the Tamil nationalism (especially LTTE) which produce completely different results in the long run. Because in my view,for example, It is the JVP who prepare the ideological ground for crushing the LTTE )
Janaki said...
Because in my view,for example, It is the JVP who prepare the ideological ground for crushing the LTTE )
--------------------------------
There is no point in assessing some one by just a one good deed.
They are cause of destruction and political instability in SL. The instability they cause within the nation is much worse than the nationalistic feelings they have. Many others who are not in JVP camps have nationalist feelings as well.
The only way forward for SL is when people stop supporting communist parties. There is no place for communism in the world now (There were good reasons in the past, but they are disappearing at a rapid pace).
Janaki,
In the past I have expressed my views about the top scum of Sri Lanka with reasons and specific incidents. I am not interested in repeating those pieces for you again. However, every once in a while I may refresh the list with their latest acts. Feel free to chime in that time.
Sam,
/ However, as his own supporting site, LankaENews says he is getting money from LTTE. This is on top of playing for top scum. That is a no show for me./
Agree.
If so, isn't it time to admit Sarath Fonseka to the list of "Jathiye Para Ballo". In my books, win or lose, now he is one of them.
Let us get this right mate. He is angry with Rajapaksha clan. Fine. But he wants our vote for the purpose of seeking revenge from Rajapaksha(s) in a way of hurting the country and it's hard earned stability.
Let us put it differently.
Someone is angry with the family for denying him his ancestral rights being blocked by the siblings. He wants his innocent mum to be pack raped in an opportune moment in revenge of his siblings. Am I getting this right?
Sarath Fonseka is canvassing our vote for nothing else but for that.
Janaki,
"To things to be clear, I'm politically some where than you on this all problems. I can make it clear if our discussion goes on forward productively."
If you are somebody who thinks that we should give Eelam or something that like away and fragment this country, then I would say that we are nowhere near politically. In that case, I believe that you and your political masters have a special place in garbage bins of Sri Lankan history. If you are a LTTE terrorist or a supporter then I believe that you shall end up in unmarked graves of Sri Lanka reserved for faceless and nameless terrorist scum. I hope this clarifies your question.
Dear Hemantha,
We all going to miss you, mate. I wish you all the best for whatever you endeavour to do in future. Come and visit us once in a while; if it is the least you could do for your friends here.
You will not be forgotten at all.
Adios Brother - Rana.
Sam I answer to you:
I was never in Bahu's camp.
In search of the path of enlightenment, Buddha also wandered into so many avenues.
Then he gave up the path of austerity embraced the path of middle.
I have not attained enlightenment but I learn from everybody from moment to moment. That makes me happy.
When I was really young I was a leftist. I was a strong opponent of Rightist politics.
Now I know better. (I hope)-I am always growing up.
Still some leftist ideas are with me. Some rightist ideas are also with me. Once I was a liberal also (while being a leftist). But the liberalism has done vast damage in Education. (I do not put details here). This is also a crime against humanity. What saddens me is that now Sri Lanka is taking the very same path of destruction of education.
Still I have some liberal ideas.
Once I was sympathetic to the LTTE. I never hid this. Hiding it is to hide from myself. The change came in 1991 December. In 1991 I met an Amnesty International person (a Tamil) who criticised then Government, JVP and the LTTE with equally strong venom.
I knew that JVP was so violent but the picture I had about LTTE was different.
I woke up.
Initially, I wanted to resolve the problem in a peaceful manner.
War is the last option. When war is the last option it is the only humane option. In 1994 when CBK came to power the point came. When you decide to fight a war you need to fight it with all the might you can muster. Otherwise it will be at the end inhumane. This all the might does not include “dirty ways” and hurting innocents.
Hereafter I only wished and hoped for utter destruction of LTTE.
My ideas about federalism have also evolved. Now I think even our current constitution gives too much power to special interest groups. We need to encourage and listen to special interest groups’ wishes and needs but this constitution motivates politicians to surrender over all National interest to special groups.
We are all equal. I do not want see state religion. The government support all religions. There are no Tamil homelands or Muslim homelands or Sinhalese homelands. What we have is Sri Lankan homeland. Individual rights needs to strengthened (then again without compromising social and national security) to the point that ethnic discrimination will be minimal. Every country, there is ethnic discrimination for some extent. There are no perfect solutions. One needs to balance so many opposing and contrasting extremes.
Whatever the path I was in I always had/have/will have a strong bond with people in Sri Lanka. I want them to prosper and live in peace.
I do not want to knowingly generate a misunderstanding about me as “unconditional” patriot. This means that if I were a British in the era of colonialism I would have fought along side with Sri Lankan people not in the side of my mother country. So I am not an unconditional patriot.
I want you to attack me or accept me only in that sense (the paragraph above). This is the last time I would answer this unless I see a particular reason to do otherwise.
Thank you very much SAM
Minor note: (out of topic)
/I do not want see state religion. The government support all religions./
You are right or wrong depends on your goal. If you don't care buddhism prevails in SL for more time or not or if you expect buddhism to be vanished then you are right. If you believe buddhism should be there then you are wrong. State sponsoring is a must for existence of buddhism. Every country buddhism still exist its backed by the state. Like it or not its the truth.
PS. Please understand in which sense we use the terms 'budhism', 'buddhism exists', 'buddhism vanishes' etc.
Janaki,
/Because in my view,for example, It is the JVP who prepare the ideological ground for crushing the LTTE )/
Agree but only in part. Also, that does not mean JVP has a right to revers/undone it.
I will give them credit for two things. That is theirs to take. But nothing more.
Credit,
1. Initiating the separation of the North and the East exploiting a technical point masterfully.
2. Their decision to use balance of power wisely by refraining from voting against the budget at a crucial time of the war against LTTE.
Discredit,
To say the least, unfortunately JVP is a confused political identity in Sri Lanka.
1. The "scum" wanted Rajapaksha government go under, at a very crucial stage of the war with LTTE as mentioned, by defeating the budget couple of years ago as you know. JVP is now going to bed with the same "scum" makes them a mix-bag.
2. They lead two generations in Sri Lanka to grave (71, 87) with no results. They used the same confused ideologies (simply trying to import Castro/Che adventure to SL. If you politically inclined towards revolution sensationalism, you must note Che/Castro theory, which was extremely popular when JVP was founded, of exporting revolution has failed in 5 other countries between 60s-70s taking many lives). (Read "Che Guevara by Daniel James)
3. JVP has realised (after local government election results lately) the ultra-nationalistic line they have taken as a tool of growing their vote base during the war (which suppose to be theoretically alien to their political ideology) are no longer with them. They have uncomfortably realized “nationalists” were massing around Rajapaksha during last phase of the war inducing a breakaway as well). Since SF/Rajapaksha conflict, in part, now lining up with Rajapaksha and the other part, with Fonseka. Had this continued without JVP participation and control they know well enough that would be the end of JVP. As you could see for them to survive they need to line up with some one. Unfortunately, they have chosen to go with bankrupt politicians (because they are weaker and JVP can be relatively vocal among them) who wanted, at heart, the country to lose Sri Lankan’s battle against terror.
That is why those who simply want one more term for Rajapaksha, including my-self (not because we love him), simply to see a stable Sri Lanka for 6 more years. I am of the opinion, then and only then, our society would be ready for meaningful progressive politics. Not before. If we rush to establish democracy, get rid of dictatorship etc., at this hour, that would be a damn mistake. By the end of next term however, we must defeat Rajapaksha’s if they are out of line to survive a vibrant democracy. There is no doubt MR would bring his son or Basil to lead his party but by then country would be stable enough to make proper decisions for it-self.
Please note Tamil separatism is as live as ever. They at the moment do not use violence and only, just, militarily suppressed for the time being.
Is Fonseka the agent of the Assembly of God cult at The Sunday Leader?
http://www.lankaweb.com/news/items/2009/11/29/is-fonseka-the-agent-of-the-assembly-of-god-cult-at-the-sunday-leader/
Whatever this guy Ajit Randeniya is smoking. I like to have some!
final para..
Finally, Fonseka needs to be prepared for a US War crimes charge sheet when he looses the election and goes to America to live.
Fonseka asked for it!)
oh! Funny that "war crimes" charge sheet crops up when convienent.
I wonder what GR, MR charge sheet will read.
Nominated for Nobel Peace Prize?
..hic..
Enjoy!
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mayil and hemantha,
mates, both of you say the same thing. so it got to have some truth.
the reason is this.
unlike MOST, i'm attached only to SL, not to individuals ruling/directing SL.
but if you follow my comments, with the time they were made, most of them remain time relevant.
circumstances and individuals change.
re: ratnasiri.
it was a CONTINGENCY option only.
re: swarnajith
he was arse licking the sakkiliya vesapala. but still that doesn't make him a TOTAL waste. even vezapillai had good qualities.
e.g. he looked after HIS children
but the best thing is NOT TO LEAVE the blog. we need all sorts of fact-based opinions.
Moshe:
Buddha was not a Buddhist. He was a free thinker.
I was a Buddhist at Birth.
I respect Buddhism most (among all other religions-reason Alara kalam suthra)
All relgitions have beautiful ides
Prophet Mohomed:
Even if you do not have a cesnt your smile is chariyt (PBUH).
State should sponser All religions.
If we are pure in our heart, religion cannot die.
Cultural invation is wrong.
That is what Coca-cola doing in our poor countries.
Western wrong footed liberalism
is detroying education.
Sri Lanka is following the same path.
Let us agree to dis agree or to debate.
Each ideal springs from Utopianism. Then it becomes the norm.
When Chirst said "Love your neginbour"
At that time it oculd been an utopianistic.
Now it is the norm.
If you do not help your neighbour then you are abnormal, is the norm now.
Nothing will be permenant. Everything changes. We just need to manage change.
Beauttiful ideas of religion will never die. Only we may not able to see the beauty.
That is what is this consumerist cultural invasion is doing in all the countries.
I am not aganst economic developmen but
Profit vultures are selling our human values for pitiful dollar.
I am not moarally superior to anybody. I am seeking to be better.
"Speaking of devolution, Fonseka said a solution might have to go even beyond the 13th Amendment to the Constitution to suit the present situation. He asserted that the controversial Amendment, introduced over 20 years ago, would not be enough now."
the last nail on fonseka's patriotism COFFIN!!
just plain politikka stuff. there is ABSOLUTELY no need to go beyond 13 amendment.
saying that it is not enough is STUPIDITY.
if 13 is not enough in 20 years, what we give now will not be enough in 2030!! then we have to give even MORE. tamil elam.
SU,
We all have our own positions and views. Thanks for the clarification.
su,
we have 2 different aproaches.
mine - ferocious and sometimes VULGAR
yours - gentle and inclusive
but what matters is FACTS. FACTS may or may not land us in the same lot.
keep posting.
su,
BTW i can't find the context of your comment at 4:14.
my comment was at 4:14 too, so your comment cannot be in response to it.
Hema
[You were an unwavering patriot.]
Not sure what you mean by “were” as “unwavering” is what I am even now when it comes to Sri Lanka's sovereignty and territorial oneness. The following lines too are relevant in this regard.
[But some times one may have to step back and rethink the strategy and the way to approach ]
There is nothing to “re-think the strategy” as far as I am concerned here. When a highly egoistic, myopic individual who also happens to be one of the country’s top notch war heroes cuddles up with some of the biggest traitors ever to walk our soil, then there is really nothing to re-think as far as I am concerned.
In my view, this is precisely when patriots must be “unwavering” and see beyond the war-hero fact as what’s sacred and paramount is our Motherland’s sovereignty, territorial integrity and the ONENESS of the nation that tens of thousands of our bravehearts died to regain and protect. If some of those departed bravehearts can see, I am sure they will be horrified at seeing their once patriotic, no-nonsense leader now getting into bed with the same traitors who denigrated their achievements and wanted the war stopped and caved into the enemy’s demands for separatism.
[Please do not forget that 'Gedara Budun is Amma' in our culture]
No question. However, I do not regard a LTTE terrorist’s (or a LTTE supporter’s) mother in that terrorist’s gedara as Budun for me! I think what you fail to grasp is how I regard the heinous separatist-terrorists (and their cohorts) and as an extension of that, how I address them. This is how I have always been (yep, “unwavering”). To me, they are the worst kind of inhumans to ever roam this planet (have you seen headless Sinhela babies of the poorest of the poor farmers, after these monsters had bashed their skulls on tree trunks?) and when I address them, of course they are addressed in manner befitting that "special regard" I hold for them.
In these blogs, especially where there are no rules imposed, it is quite common to see them come in and utter the foulest filth and try to intimidate "decent" patriots and when I come across such, naturally, they will get from me also a treatment in kind, including where I may express that their mother is a ROTTEN WHORECUNT.
Yep, I am not here on a popularity contest and frankly, don’t give a flying fuck what others think of me (no, I am not a “common candidate” :)) Rather, my sole mission here is to battle the vile separatist-terrorists (and their supporters, including sinister covert ones) who are out to destroy my Motherland and in doing so I will utilize all and every tool I think is available and appropriate, entirely at my prerogative. In other words, as long as the end justifies the means, I will do it!
“terminate this enemy with extreme prejudice” - my motto
OaO Asithri
Bogus Patriots,
Let me ask this again, I wonder what GR, MR charge sheet will read when Eelam Tamils prosecute them for war crime charges. Only brainless jokers can nominate them for Nobel Peace Prize?
hemantha,
e.g.
"Ok.
I am against SF."
i would say, "i'm against SF's 13+, associating traitors, etc."
this is the difference between u and me.
you should remain in the blog.
jay whore,
so it was wise men who proposed and awarded OBAMA the bobel peace prize????? he is fighting 2 wars that is killing millions of ppl, no end in sight and getting ready for the 3rd war.
how dumb can you be???
no wonder you guys lost it.
"Speaking of devolution, Fonseka said a solution might have to go even beyond the 13th Amendment to the Constitution to suit the present situation. He asserted that the controversial Amendment, introduced over 20 years ago, would not be enough now."
Wow! Clearly a harbinger of catastrophe that awaits us if this man is elected to leadership!
OaO Asithri
Sam, Tusitha, apparently there are few points i can make from your replies.
1. Thusitha is against communism, on the question of JVP. And he simply repeats a well known argument against communism. But there are lot of points any one can make against that.
-What do you mean by "communism"?
2. It is apparent that Sam is well determined to cling on to his position as if any openness would be let something to penetrate his core.
- so you use some underline tricks to avoid this.
-simply produce suspicion as if any one, who against you, are a alien who is going to destroy the motherland. Well known rethoric for this ideological operation in these days is the term LTTE terrorist. All use this against their enemies except LTTE remnants(MR against SF, SF against MR and so on). It seems that the term LTTE going lose its subversive effect(which was much productive to those who were really against the LTTE in the recent immediate past)
-And most interestingly, this was again simply a production of the JVP political discourse after 2005.
-Any one who asks fundamental questions are suspicious:by doing so you are secretly giving a credit to those 'scums'.
-You avoid my fundamental argument, by pointing out the past arguments based on empirical data. I'm really asking about the basic and unspoken ideology behind those arguments.
- By doing so, you openly imitate my first category in my last post.
Patriots are going through phase shifts.. Where are you now..?
Phase 1. Your are our hero. Please sir, don't come into dirty politics.
Phase 2. How can you sit with RW,MS,MG,RH etc? Be-aware sir, you are still our hero.
Phase 3. I will not vote for you but still I respect you.
Phase 4. You are traitor.
Janaki,
Now I have the reasons to assume that you are here to support the top scum. In the past another person who speaks lots of meaningless phrases talked in the same vein in this forum. I could care less about how you think about me. However, I care a lot about the other getting fooled by scum like you. For the record, you and your political masters shall be destined in garbage bins of Sri Lankan history. I will treat you and your political masters appropriately, i.e. plain garbage. I hope that this clarifies the issue.
Asithri said...
[[But some times one may have to step back and rethink the strategy and the way to approach ]
There is nothing to “re-think the strategy” as far as I am concerned here. When a highly egoistic, myopic individual who also happens to be one of the country’s top notch war heroes cuddles up with some of the biggest traitors ever to walk our soil, then there is really nothing to re-think as far as I am concerned.
In my view, this is precisely when patriots must be “unwavering” and see beyond the war-hero fact as what’s sacred and paramount is our Motherland’s sovereignty, territorial integrity and the ONENESS of the nation that tens of thousands of our bravehearts died to regain and protect. If some of those departed bravehearts can see, I am sure they will be horrified at seeing their once patriotic, no-nonsense leader now getting into bed with the same traitors who denigrated their achievements and wanted the war stopped and caved into the enemy’s demands for separatism.]
Asithri, brother
Well said! Could not articulated a true Patriots position better myself!
Jayawewa!
Moshey
[no wonder you guys lost it.]
Mate, now now, that ain't the way to talk to a member of the Einstein race!
:)) :)) :))
OaO Asithri
Janaki,
can you please tell me what you meant by "empirical data?"
Sam Perera said...
[I think that
"Aththe' Ae' Atheetha Du Puthun"
should be read as
"Aththe' Ae' Abheetha Du Puthun"]
Thanks, Sam!
I wrote down the lyrics listening to the song, and made a mistake here!
/Saman said...
If so, isn't it time to admit Sarath Fonseka to the list of "Jathiye Para Ballo". In my books, win or lose, now he is one of them.
Let us get this right mate. He is angry with Rajapaksha clan. Fine. But he wants our vote for the purpose of seeking revenge from Rajapaksha(s) in a way of hurting the country and it's hard earned stability./
Well, hero or traitor will be decided by history. MR didn't plan in 1970s when he entered politics to be president in 2005 and finish a 30 years war in 2009. SF didn't plan in 1970s when he joined SLA to command SLA in 2009 and finish war. People act according to the situation and rest will decide thats good or bad.
I know some super duper di-ass-pora dumbos claimed Karuna doing some peelaam miracle within MR admin. The world doesn't wor that way. Yet some of my friends believe SF doing some magic with UNP. Karuna fought for LTTE and he was their hero until he defected. After that he was their traitor. Same is true for SF but under different political dynamics.
Different people will take different times to realize this. SamP may never need to put him in his list provided he will lose. If he wins then SamP will put him in his list when UNP/ US embassy propose new constitution (abolish PE + 13+ => federal) and that will be too late.
Saman, your points are interesting.
1. If we consider this election, I'm also in the side of MR, not because of your reasoning, but because of the opposite reasoning. I like the country to be unstable for the next term. This is going to happen under MR than under SF. ( I can elaborate this point, if you like, later)
2. Generally agree with your third point under discredits.
3. Regarding the second(discredits), it is not clear whether you disagree with the violence as a category/instrument of progressive political project.. Or you simply take into account the fact of suffering(As in the popular version of the Mahathma gandhi).
/ Sam Perera said...
Janaki,
can you please tell me what you meant by "empirical data?"/
Previous profile IDs. HIkz
Again be careful about what ever propaganda may be going around.
I seem to recall that very soon after the war not so far from Nanthikudal, General SF addressed his troops and stated that soldiers did not sacrifice tghier life to give it away (referring to the 13th as it is). At that time 13th was very much on the lips of Government and people like Jayathilake.
The latter was immediately got rid of making it appear like the Government was against 13th. But it became clear that this was because he had offended Israel.
We need to think about whom SF offended. I think we just need to cast our eyes up (if you know what I mean). Do not think the SL is in the clear by any means. There are great powers who do not want to let SL be independent.
So, when one hears that SF has spoken about going beyond the 13th, one has to listen to the sceptic within to work out what is going on.
I would suggest that you watch the two men concerned and pay heed to what they actually say. I am not a Sri Lankan but love SL, and respect what the SL people choose. But for myself I would consider the following conditions for a Free Sri Lanka which so many soldiers sacrificed life and limb:
1) No 13th amendment as it stands with the foot print of the Great Bully. If devolution occurs it must be according to scientific principles as outlined elsewhere (down to district levels according to catchments) and totally devoid of ethnic and other forms of favouritism. No police powers but districts Provinces should collect taxes (for example). I would even support giving village councils more power. This I would think as going beyond 13th. Here I am talking about real devolution.
2) Implement 17th amendment. This is what is done in other countries. It does not get rid of corruption but it keeps from being embarrassingly obvious. It also reduces the power of politicians considerably so that ordinary people can do their business without having to go after these scum. Politicians (99%) are scum of the Earth. In other countries most of them are also lawyers. They are paid hefty salaries and huge Superannuation. If we can get Sl politicians to be as irrelevant and corrupt (under the table)as politicians elsewhere, then SL people will no doubt be able to reach their potential.
3)Implement strong Racial Vilification Laws. Anyone attempting to incite racial hatred should get the maximum penalty under the law. No questions asked.
One can see then what would happen to any political party which espouses racial/racist ideas.
4) Strong anti-discrimination laws: ditto
The above conditions should be sufficient to get the country rolling. It would obviate the need to appease racist-casteist Tamils who remain the bane of the country.
It would also put Tamil people in the North on notice. Choose now, a path of being Sri Lankan or display where your heart lies. If they come out in large numbers and vote for two major candidates (or even one of them) then they would be vindicated. This is a crucial time and having two strong candidates is an opportunity for all of Sri Lanka. Let us be fare on two patriots.
Swarnajith Udana said...
[Once I was sympathetic to the LTTE. I never hid this. Hiding it is to hide from myself. The change came in 1991 December. In 1991 I met an Amnesty International person (a Tamil) who criticised then Government, JVP and the LTTE with equally strong venom.]
Unfortunately, at the HEIGHT OF THE WAR LAST YEAR, you were STILL SYMPATHETIC TOWARDS THE LTTE, and was preaching to any and all "humanity towards the LTTE."
All of this, while the nation was trying to eradicate this monstrous movement from the Motherland, combating the LTTE, the Eelamist Diaspora, and our Western enemies. You were not helping our country survive at all then.
Given the series of metamorphoses you have gone through, with each incarnation of "Swarnajith Udana" vociferously defending your latest ideas at each stage of your emotional growth, why should all of us give any credence to your utterings now?
You seem to be perpetually in transition, and your current position could be as fleeting as your last one!
Those of us, who have thought LONG & HARD about these matters and have arrived at views we now hold, and have held over a much LONGER PERIOD, are very skeptical of people like you who flit from one petal of political idealogy to another, apparently without much thought.
My advice to you is: take some time to ponder issues, and your history of perpetual and continuing change, before offering your flawed advice to others.
Ninja
[Yet some of my friends believe SF doing some magic with UNP]
Mine too.
They have this dream of SF taking charge of affairs when once elected and castrating RW down to size, telling TNA to shove a koss-gatey up their arse, ask Hackhim to concentrate only on whoring, ask Mano Gono to go back to ToiletNadu, etc. etc. and thereby he would have cleaned up this traitor-mess!!!
ha ha ha...some people love day-dreaming.
OaO Asithri
p.s. As an aside... "If he thinks Sri Lanka Army is going to take over Killinocchi, then Mahinda Rajapakse is day-dreaming" mmmmm....now where did I hear that?
LMSSAO!!! Truly LMSSAO!!!
mayil,
at first i thought same.
2 patriots contesting. whoever wins, we are through.
but SF has shown a great deal of inconsistency, lately. he is following a PLEASE ALL strategy. he says he will even get help of VP's mother to defeat MR. taken literally, its ok. but taken in the context, it means desperation.
SF should remain patriotic, the former army commander. IF he is genuine ppl will flock around him. no need to bend the rules for the ppl.
tamils in the north east will NOT vote for MR or SF.
even in 1982 a large number of tamil ppl didn't vote for the 2 main candidates.
Moshe:
I might have replied to Ninja thinking that it was you. (Hi Ninja thank you for your long post.)
You somewhere mentioned about Wijepala: (with crude language, regretfully)
About Rana: I never took his side when he was exposed. I refused to defend Rana and rebuked wijepala when Wijepala asked me to defend Rana.
On the other hand Wijepala was an intriguing character.
I still believe that you were in too haste to attack him in that form.
There are times that I did not agree with him
Even thoough he said he was Sinhalese it did not come through his posts.
He personally once wrote to me.
"He is extremely angered by Elam Project since Sri Lanka is the only country Shiralees have. Tamils have Tamil Nadu.
I wrote him that I do not think in those terms.
In our direct conversation, he was more Sinhalese Nationalistic than I had ever been. When I was 12-13 years old I was a strongly Sinhalese Racist.
But I know still I have racism in my Bone Marrows but I strive to wade of these racist superiority form my heart. So I am not superior in morals to anybody. Only I am striving to be. I know everyone is.
Thanks!
Swarnajith Udana
Sam, I'll try to point out what I mean by the empirical data. I want to focus on two distinct levels.
1. facts or empirical data.
2. Ideological operation which functions in 'behind the scene'.
Let us ask ourselves a simple question: in the Germany of the late 1930S,
what would be the result of a non-ideological, objective approach regarding the jews?
Probably something like: "The Nazis are condemning the Jews too hastily,
without proper argument, so let us take a cool, sober look and see if they
are really guilty or not; let us see if there is some truth in the accusations
against them." Is it really necessary to add that such an approach would
merely confirm our so-called 'unconscious prejudices' with additional
rationalizations? The proper answer to anti-Semitism is therefore not 'Jews
are really not like that' but 'the anti-Semitic idea of Jew has nothing to
do with Jews; the ideological figure of a Jew is a way to stitch up the inconsistency
of our own ideological system.'
That is why we are also unable to shake so-called ideological prejudices by taking into account the pre-ideological level of everyday experience.
The basis of this argument is that the ideological construction always
finds its limits in the field of everyday experience - that it is unable to
reduce, to contain, to absorb and annihilate this level. Let us again take a
typical individual in Germany in the late 1930S. He is bombarded by
anti-Semitic propaganda depicting a Jew as a monstrous incarnation of
Evil, the great wire-puller, and so on. But when he returns home he
encounters Mr Stern, his neighbour, a good man to chat with in the
evenings, whose children play with his. Does not this everyday experience
offer an irreducible resistance to the ideological construction?
The answer is, of course, no. If everyday experience offers such a resistance,
then the anti-Semitic ideology has not yet really grasped us. An ideology is really 'holding us' only when we do not feel any opposition between
it and reality - that is, when the ideology succeeds in determining the
mode of our everyday experience of reality itself. How then would our
poor German, if he were a good anti-Semite, react to this gap between the ideological figure of the Jew (schemer, wire-puller, exploiting our brave
men and so on) and the common everyday experience of his good neighbour,
Mr Stern? His answer would be to turn this gap, this discrepancy
itself, into an argument for anti-Semitism: 'You see how dangerous they
really are? It is difficult to recognize their real nature. They hide it behind
the mask of everyday appearance - and it is exactly this hiding of one's
real nature, this duplicity, that is a basic feature of the Jewish nature.' An
ideology really succeeds when even the facts which at first sight contradict
it start to function as arguments in its favour.
Then same data/facts can be use either against or also in the favor of it.
Yes, first He was over-valued by many as a true hero and a strategist. Then it got into his mind and start thinking he is a perfect leader and a strategist. Afterward he wanted to prove it to himself by doing something very smart and rewarding. Then he started plotting to be the smartest leader and reap all benefits to himself without sharing.
Plot worked partially but he accepted the things he doesn’t like as part of the strategy. However, other forces around him changed their courses creating an untenable vacuum around him.
Observers began to see his holes clearly, seeing through his smoke screen.
Then he was devalued, blamed and finally discarded.
Only at last he realised that he is neither a smart leader nor a good strategist.
Who is he?
I have some comments to make about KT Rajasingham as a warning to those who believe everything he says. Just read his own writing and see for your self:
This man wrote a series of articles on Asia Times about the time that the Katunayake Airport was attacked by LTTE:
Sri Lanka: the untold story
Note that Sangham.org has made links to it. At the time I read the initial chapters word by word. It makes "Mein Kampf" look like a tome written by Mother Theresa!
If you read it I think you would come to similar conclusions to me. That this guy was at the time a die-hard LTTE-pig. It is interesting that these set of articles came at a time the LTTE was persuading the SLG to go for a CFA. 9/11 spoilt their plans. Otherwise KTR would have no doubt had a ministerial post in Eelam.
Later he developed Asian Tribune as a propaganda weapon. Initially he invited all comers. I and Asthiri were commentators and Mahindapala and Wijayapala were contributors. KTR eventualy banned Asthiri and got rid of Mahindapala. Asthiri was talking too much about beating the crap out of the LTTE while accusing Tamil commentators for being racists. Mahindapala was laying bare the ugly truth about Tamil racism, casteism and politics.
He (KTR) then revealed (in a series of articles)about his origins as an SLFP party official. He also started talking about how he does not want a part of SL but he wants to be able to go any where and live anywhere in SL (big turn around from the Asia Times articles).
Many Tiger sympathisers were very angry with him at the time and wanted to take him to court (Canada and Australia).
I am pretty sure that Wijayapala would have been a very strong influence at AT. May be he even had an influence in proscribing Mahindapala. One thing I can say about Wijayapala is (as fond as I am of him) he is not a Sinhala in the way we would understand. He certainly believes in the "Tamil identity" myth and is emotionally invested in it. He cannot read or write sinhala. The relationship between Wijayapala and KTR, I am not sure of.
But one this certain in my mind. KTR cannot be trusted.
So be very careful about believing what he says when he starts a title with "bullets that killed innocent Tamils".
If you visit AT now you will see that it is completely degraded with KTR propaganda. It seems that most of his Sri Lankan contributors have abandoned him.
Asthiri,
I need you to come clean about something that has been troubling me since the AT days. You were insistent that Karuna should be treated as the terrorist he is.
You changed tact later (for understandable reasons). After all mother Lanka had her back to the wall.
But now this same terrorist cum War Criminal who killed 600 of our men in cold blood, is a minister in Government while our Ware Hero is in opposition.
Can you please tell me how you reconcile this? Is the thangachchie helping?
Please remember what Moshe said many months ago about the CDS having bow his head to this guy.
Why is your blood boiling now bro. I want to know!
Act firmly against LTTE supporters: Vasan
Special Correspondent
MADURAI: The police should firmly deal with demonstrations of support for the banned Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam, said Union Minister of Shipping G.K. Vasan here on Saturday.
Referring to the incident at Erode, in which the former Union Minister E.V.K.S. Elangovan and his supporters removed the banners of LTTE leader V. Prabakaran, put up by supporters of the banned organisation to mark ‘martyrs’ day’ on Friday, Mr. Vasan said that the police should not entertain any form of support for the banned organisation.
The government should initiate severe action not only against those responsible for putting up banners and posters at Erode but also all those who eulogised the LTTE and its leader all over Tamil Nadu. They should be dealt with severely.
‘Cowardly act’
Mr. Vasan said that the reported attack on Mr. Elangovan’s house in Chennai was a “cowardly act” by anti-social elements.
The Congress would not be cowed down by such incidents. He was confident that the police would soon bring to book persons responsible for the incident.
We had reached point of no return when India pressurized us: Gen. Fonseka
November 29, 2009 12:01 pm
adaderana.lk
When pressure was being exerted by India to stop war, we had reached a point of no return, said Presidential hopeful General Sarath Fonseka in answer to a question by a journalist.
To the question whether the army would have had to stop the war against the LTTE when severe pressure from India was mounting, General Fonseka replied that once they had reached a certain point in battle, no pressure could have stopped it.
http://www.lakbimanews.lk/
Next day he will worship vezapizza too.
http://www.rivira.lk/2009/11/29/puwath5.htm
Way to go. Looks like UPN expect MR to defeat SF and UPFA expect UNP to defeat SF. Hope MR makes no mistake.
su,
IF w-pala gives up peaceful tamil elam and agrees to multiethnic recolonization of north, i have no problem with him or anyone.
SL is for sinhala, tamil, muslim, jewish, etc. ALL sri lankans to live with no regard to race. race is important CULTURALLY and NO sri lankan has a problem with that.
why i HATE peaceful tamil elam soooo much????
LTTE was not born from hyena wombs. it is the result of RACIST politics fcuking the tamil concience like a lion fcuks his lioness.
3 days continusously for every 20 minutes!!!
only difference, instead of 3 days, it is everyday!!
ACTC (T - TAMIL)
ITAK (T - TAMIL)
TULF (T - TAMIL)
DMAK (D - DRAVIDIAN)
AIADMK (D - DRAVIDIAN)
while ALL the tamils outside north east, MOST sinhalas, MOST muslims rejected RACISM in politics, tamils in north east unfortunately have to put up with it.
further fcuking resulted in,
PLOTE (T - TAMIL)
TELO (T - TAMIL)
TMVP (T - TAMIL)
DTNA (T - TAMIL)
while SLMC, SU, NSU, SMBP crappies went to the toilet pit. SLMC is the best of the lot anyway except for hack-him.
this CANNOT be resolved by pandering into them. the ONLY way is to make RACISM irrelevant in politics.
this CANNOT be forced.
IF tamils in colombo want racism, they can have it. get TNA to contest in colombo and IF tamils in colombo so wish, they can give TNA 2 - 4 seats.
(20*20%=4)
but they have rejected TE.
this is the proven solution. some ppl will not realize it but their grandchildren will thank us for it.
when a large number of sinhalas lived in the north (and a large number of tamils lived in the south), in the past, there was no conflict.
MY COMMENT:
Heal Thyself, India!
You would like a defenceless Sri Lanka, wouldn't you? When Sri Lanka's defence forces were only 5,000 strong, India trained and planted the LTTE in her bosom. With a great sacrifice Sri Lanka has defended her territorial integrity, fighting not only the LTTE, but the LTTE Diaspora, Western Countries interested in undermining her, and various NGOs with their own axes to grind.
No, Thank You! Sri Lanka will maintain a half-million-man army, and train a national militia comprising every able bodied citizen to make certain that never happens again, and give pause to the mightiest of our enemies.
Instead of giving flawed advice to Sri Lanka, India should secure peace within itself, and bring to heel the terrorist movements that disrupt the lives of 1 billion of her population, nationwide. We Sri Lankans will be happy to assist her, and guard her southern border against all her enemies, while India heals herself!
.........
A militarised Sri Lanka on an uneasy path to peace
Sutirtho Patranobis, Hindustan Times
Colombo, November 28, 2009
Sri Lanka has a history of violence. For a Buddhist country with a population of 20 million that history is gory – one long civil war, two bloody Marxist insurrections, ethnic riots, several assassinations and an abortive coup in 1962. If that wasn’t enough, the 2004 December tsunami battered the country’s scenic coastline and took the lives of thousands.
Everyone knows about long war of attrition that government forces fought against the separatist Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam (LTTE). The 26-year-long war ended in May at the cost of an estimated 100000 lives and two hemorrhaging communities.
Before Tamil militancy was the rebellion of the radical: not many outside Sri Lanka are aware that the country has seen two armed rebellions – 1971 and 1987-89 -- by extremist Marxists. The rebels of the Janatha Vimukthi Peramuna (JVP) were fuelled by anti-western and waves of anti-Indian sentiments. Both claimed the lives of thousands of youth from the majority Sinhala community and were crushed under heavy military boots. Thousands more disappeared without a trace.
But it was the protracted ethnic war with the LTTE that led to, what a political analyst said, a `national security regime’ (NSR) in the country. ``An NSR is created when militarisation is viewed as a necessary component of the conduct of a state. That doesn’t mean that country is under dictatorship; the regime could be in a broad democratic framework,’’ the analyst, who requested anonymity, said.
It doesn’t really help that the country continues to be under a ``state of emergency’’ six months after the war. ``Holding of elections alone is not democracy. Many rogue systems have many forms of manipulated elections for no other reason than to have some legitimacy, particularly before the eyes of the international community,’’ the Asian Human Rights Commission said in a statement soon after LTTE leader V Prabhakaran was declared dead.
The framework maybe democratic but essential components like the practice of civil liberties, artistic freedom and dissenting opinion is severely curtailed in such a regime. In Sri Lanka, it has meant the murder and assault of journalists and human rights activists, severe restrictions on critical opinion in the academia and a close watch, bordering on intimidation, on artists who want to make political comment.
Ananda USA:
I have not advocated any mercy for LTTE.
In fact I said even my father or myself happens to be in Wanni, even if we would get killed in the war had to continue.
But I always asked for precaution so that unnecessary risks are not taken against civilians.
I am not giving anybody advice, so do not take them but if you wish you may consider them.
I am still evolving. If one has stopped evolving then..??????
Science is evolving. It has not stagnated at one way of looking at things.
Does the idea that the Sun goes around the Earth was/is unscientific?.
How about the idea that the Earth goes around the Sun?
How about the idea: both Earth and the Sun go around the centre of Mass of the system of Earth and Sun but that Centre of mass happens to be inside the Sun?
They are all scientific ideas. Using each model mentioned above lunar and solar eclipses can be accurately predicted.
Only that the ideas are evolving. Some models are better.
NEWTON: The space and time is absolute. The speed of light is relative to the observer.
Einstein: The space and time is relative to the observer but the speed of light is independent of the observer.
One is quite the opposite of the other yet they complement each other. ( I do not go into details)
Buddha gave monkhood to Rahula.
Then later he decreed that under aged children should not be recruited as monks without the parent's permission.
Should the Buddha have chosen stagnation and non-evolution?
When I was young I asked my Dad to bring the Moon to me to be taken as a toy.
Now I have different ideas of Moon.
Should I have stagnated at my romantic notion of the Moon.
We all evolve in ideas. It is only that some of us do not pay attention of our thoughts.
When I was in Grade 2 the number half was a half of a bread or half of a rectangle.
Now half is the number created to satisfy the requirement when added twice that gives one.
Should I have hold on to my previous concept of half?
I am not absolutely certain about some of my ideas even though at the moment I have strong confidence in them. However, there is room to be evolved, complemented and supplemented. This is because I am not dead yet. I assure you I will not change my ideas after my death. Until then I will evolve. Everyone does.
A militarised Sri Lanka on an uneasy path to peace
.......continued....
A well-known painter HT spoke to said: ``I would say (the situation), it’s scary. But don’t quote me. Do you get the picture?’’
A more direct impact of the internal strife and the security regime has been the rapid strengthening of armed forces. Latest statistics is hard to come by as the military continues to be cagey about sharing numbers but Sri Lanka does have one of the highest ratios of soldiers to civilians in Asia.
In 2006, according to a study by Mumbai-based Strategic Foresight Group, Sri Lanka had already emerged as the most militarised country in South Asia. ``For every thousand population, it has eight military personnel against 1.3 in India or four in Pakistan. In terms of military expenditure, Sri Lanka spends 4.1 per cent of its GDP against 2.5 per cent by India or 3.5 per cent by Pakistan,’’ the study said.
Three years later, those numbers have gone up. The total number of the forces including the army, navy, air force, police and civil defence adds up to 350000-400000. The army accounts for about 2.4 lakh personnel. Military spokesperson Brigadier Udaya Nanayakkara recently said the ``army would recruit another 10000 by the year-end.’’
Basic requirements are simple – applicant has to be between 18 and 24 years of age, unmarried and physically fit.
Military budget is going up too. Recently, Parliament approved an additional 20 per cent budget, over above the already allocated $ 1.74 billion, for defence expenditure.
The government argued it’s was necessary because the security forces still need strengthening.
The arrival of Sarath Fonseka, the first four-star general and recently retired as chief of defence staff, in the political arena is another sign of how ``militarised’’ the Lankan society was becoming, Professor J Uyangoda, head of department, political science, Colombo University argued.
``Militarisation has seen a gradual consideration in the society. Now with general Fonseka fighting the Presidential election as the opposition candidate, it indicates demilitarisation is not in the agenda even for the opposition. It doesn’t look like the United National Party (the main opposition party) is committed to demilitarising Sri Lanka,’’ Uyangoda said.
Historian Silan Kadirgamar said he ``was afraid that the run-up to the Presidential polls could be violent as the stakes were high.’’
``There are no professional army or security forces left in Sri Lanka. Having Rajapaksa is terrible and having Fonseka would be a nightmare. Unfortunately Sri Lanka has evolved a tradition where rogues contest the presidency and no one could remotely hold them down to their promises,’’ the respected civil rights group, University Teachers for Human Rights (Jaffna) told HT over email.
The run-up to the election could also see the proliferation of armed groups, some of which brazenly operate in parts of eastern Sri Lanka. These groups are usually affiliated to politicians and are known to kidnap and extort.
What could add to the problem is the high rate of desertion from the armed forces. Nearly 30000 personnel from the three wings went home on leave but did not return to their regiments. There were 20,597 deserters from the army alone.
``Desertion has increased after the end of the war. Yes, it is a problem because they are trained,’’ defence analyst and journalist Iqbal Athas said. Athas was also worried about politicians using thugs to protect their turf.
So, what are the ways to demilitarise provided the political class has the intention. ``Battalions to the United Nations could be increased. Or a transitory civil defence force could be constituted. The extra force could also be used to strengthen existing police stations or to man new police stations in the north,’’ Athas suggested.
The government has to demilitarise not only in numbers but also reduce its security paranoia. Sri Lanka’s history of violence cannot be denied. But the country deserves a future of peace.
I guess the reasoning behind UNP not contesting PE is due to their long term planning so that RW/MS come back in a big way.
Almost entire country was under 'war victory hypnosis' and UNP found that attacking 'war victory' is useless as MR scored 70%. I think they also calculated its wise to target 2016 PE and also found this unsatisfied, power greedy, ego driven, revengeful man. Both UNP and JVP were careful to keep him out of their parties and hence SF losing is not UNP/JVP's problem. Also its easy to capitalize via SF rather than attacking well build war victory mentality of voters.
Both parties will be able to attack MR freely satisfying their hate feelings. However trick will do a big job for UNP. Large number of UNP voters who were taken to MR, first via JHU, second when MR was doing war and third after war victory now expected to vote against MR. This will be a considerable achievement for UNP and SF is the best choice for such a tool. Minority votes may deviate from UNP due to SF but in crucial 2016 PE or even before that its not hard UNP to win back them.
Janaki,
You remind me somebody else who writes lots of meaningless garbage. When I ask about what you meant by "empirical data" you are trying to pullout a story from Nazi past. Are you somebody from the 4th International? Those stories have no relevance to what is here today. You are just wasting your time with me.
The top scum of Sri Lanka is a list of individuals, not political parties with certain collective ideologies. They have done many things to undermine the efforts of our forces and the people when we were up to the task of defending our sovereignty and when we were fighting for our survival.
For your reference, this is what Boorubahu did in February 2009.
"We, the undersigned leaders of workers' parties, demand that the government of Sri Lanka stop attacks that can destroy thousands of Tamils and agree to a ceasefire with the LTTE to start discussions in order to install an interim government for the Tamil homeland," said a resolution passed Wednesday at the International Committee of the Fourth International, consisting over 50 political parties and organisations, spread throughout the five continents of the world. Dr. Vickramabahu Karunarante of the NSSP of Sri Lanka mooted the resolution, which was unanimously accepted
Swarnajith Udana said...
[I have not advocated any mercy for LTTE.
In fact I said even my father or myself happens to be in Wanni, even if we would get killed in the war had to continue.
But I always asked for precaution so that unnecessary risks are not taken against civilians.]
This is ALL BS, as is the rest of the stuff you posted today in support of your fluctuating positions.
We who argued with you while the war was raging, KNOW what you have said over and over again, giving comfort to the bleeding hearts who were trying to rescue the LTTE from annihilation.
[I am not absolutely certain about some of my ideas even though at the moment I have strong confidence in them. ]
It certainly seems that you confidently argue ideas that change from day to day, moment to moment, second to second. The turbulence is indeed astonishing!
All of us do evolve in our thinking, but not as radically, or as rapidly, as yours seem to. When what you believe in changes so radically and rapidly, it just shows that your basic premises are not firmly grounded either in fact, or in logic.
mayil,
mate, its not about KTR (a proven peaceful tamil elamist). it is about what he says.
it may be true, may be false.
it MUST be investigated.
but someone has to bring it up to investigate.
IF the rape allegation made by KTR against SF is untrue, he would/ SHOULD be taken to court on multiple defamation charges by,
1. nanda menike
2. SF
3. ham pepera
4. ranetunge
5. kaluarachchi (???)
6. MoD
the HICORP deal is striking. i made it public FIRST. danuna was NEVER an arms dealer!! but he has 3 companies dealing in SL defence purchases after 2007. HICORP's arms dealer cites danuna's mother as a referee!!!
i also made it public first danuna's dealings in,
1. tidal trading
2. satpro
no one else has found this out, still.
and SF saying danuna had no knoweldge of HICORP arms dealers is BULLSHIT. (i proved this yesterday).
so there is some controversy. we have to investigate it fully.
Moshe:
I am not for peaceful or violent Elam. Once I war for peaceful Elam. (That was wrong and misguided. That came by seeing how JRJ regime acted but that was a wrong reactions.)
But if one harbours peaceful Elam concepts and is open about it, for period of time,I will seek debate to change them.
But when I see it is pure Tamil racist supremacy then I will stop debating with them.
My feeling was that Wijepaal was not for peaceful Elam.
But still he was intriguing so I cannot be sure. There was miniscule chance he was hiding his true feelings but in his personal exchanges with me he came as a really strong Sinhalese Nationalist. That's all I can say.
To win your favour or hate I cannot and will not say a thing that I am not sincere about since doing so is to insult you. Moreover, it is more of insulting myself. When I lie even if you do not know, I know. I cannot hide myself.
It is ok for you to or anybody to distrust me think about Babu. He was trusted by Premadasa. How do you know that I am not a Babu? Then again how do I know anyone else is not a Babu? T think decent thing to is to without lowering your guard practicing engagement as much as possible. If you still distrust then keep the distance away until you have further information. I do not attack people since If I find out later I suspected an innocent person it hurts me a great deal. So without attacking, sometimes using humour I keep away. I think if you distrust me you need to do the same thing but keep looking at the ideas, in the spirit of Alara kalam suthra.
Thanks!
Swarnajith Udana
I am off now.
Well Said Ananada,
No, Thank You! Sri Lanka will maintain a half-million-man army, and train a national militia comprising every able bodied citizen to make certain that never happens again, and give pause to the mightiest of our enemies.
Ananda USA:
You are deliberately or unintentionally completely distorting what I ahave said before. So there is no point of debate.
I always stood for civilian safety and still I do. People can interpret that in many different ways. That's upto them.
You keep your conclusion. That's fine with me. Have a nice life.
Thanks USA!
This is the same British Government that would institute "war crimes charges" against any Pakistani leader brave enough to take on the terrorists!
LoL! Bloody Clowns!
...............
Gordon Brown slams Pakistan over Osama
29 Nov 2009
LONDON: British Prime Minister Gordon Brown Sunday attacked the Pakistani leadership in exasperated tones, demanding that it "take out" Al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden and his deputy Ayman Zawahiri.
"The Pakistan government has started to take on the Taliban and to take on Al Qaeda in South Waziristan, but we have got to ask ourselves why, eight years after September 11, nobody has been able to spot or detain or get close to Osama bin Laden, nobody has been able to get close to Zawahiri, the number two of Al Qaeda," Brown told BBC television.
"We have got to ask the Pakistani security forces, army and politicians to join us in the major effort that the world is committing resources to, not only to isolate Al-Qaeda but to break them in Pakistan," Brown said after a telephone conversation with Pakistan President Asif Ali Zardari Saturday.
"...If we are putting our strategy into place for dealing with building up Afghan forces in Afghanistan so they can control things themselves, then Pakistan has got to be able to show that it can take on Al Qaeda, which is a threat to Pakistan and the Pakistani people as well as to the rest of the world."
"I believe that after eight years, we should have been able to do more, with all the Pakistani forces working together with the rest of the world, to get to the bottom of where Al Qaeda is operating from."
He added: "We want, after eight years, to see more progress in taking out these two people at the top of Al Qaeda."
Brown's comments came ahead of an expected announcement this week of 500 more troops that would take up the British military presence in Afghanistan to 9,500.
The British presence in Afghanistan has come under growing criticism from domestic politicians, former generals and families of British soldiers as more than 200 British troops have been killed in that country since 2001.
Sawrnajith Udana said...
[So there is no point of debate. ]
Yes, indeed, there is no point in debating!
But, I will continue to expose any and all wolves in sheep's clothing accountable for their former vociferously argued positions .. if only to protect unwary patriots!
Sam said:You remind me somebody else who writes lots of meaningless garbage
-you again remind me of the mechanisms described in my previous posts including the last one..
Sam: When I ask about what you meant by "empirical data" you are trying to pullout a story from Nazi past. Are you somebody from the 4th International? Those stories have no relevance to what is here today. You are just wasting your time with me.
-Thanks for remind me...What You are trying to erase is the very 'relevance' of the analysis. I'm simply wondering whether you are a serious idiot or a cynic, so as not to get that point in my last post..
Sam:The top scum of Sri Lanka is a list of individuals, not political parties with certain collective ideologies. They have done many things to undermine the efforts of our forces and the people when we were up to the task of defending our sovereignty and when we were fighting for our survival.
-Ideology means not only "collective" ones, but also the individual ones, like cynical position.
-Especially, those people in your list are driven by major "collective" ideological trends in the country. By repeating the same point, you simply avoid my "intrusion" in to your inconsistency.
Sam:For your reference, this is what Boorubahu did in February 2009.
-Nice disavowal..Again the nice indication of my "LTTE partiality" and then comfortably relying on the same point without any disturbance.
Sam:You are just wasting your time with me.
- Important advice to be comfortable..
Moshe,
We have purposefully ignored various accusations against MR coming from the wrong quarter. Have another look at KTR.
SF has so far not slung any mud against the Brotherhood except in the form of replies to accusations against him.
If he has committed crimes then he should be punished under SL law. But we have a faculty called discretion.
Please use it. I would not want to have to say "I told you so" in 6 months!
If I am wrong in remaining silent about this, then in 6 months I can always join you. If on the other hand, you are wrong brother, it is a humiliating way back.
At present you are only providing fuel for the despicable enemies of SL.
Sam,
Always beware of new comers. You are of course the tried and true blogger who always welcome them and tests them out.
I think you are on the right track here. I feel a coldness on my ar#e.
Heh Heh Heh
See what's happened. They're are back!!
Now let's have some entertainment.
BTW, what happened to fonzy2010 guy?
Mahinda is the best president we ever had.
Fonseka is running due to his bruised ego.
Don't believe me? Look at most of the reasons he gave for running for president. Like a kid complaining about his stolen lollipop.
mayil,
"SF has so far not slung any mud against the Brotherhood"
making factual statements is not mud slinging. anyway i will NOT be part of the mud games between politicians!!
my concern is defence and politics as it relates to defence.
SF is not part of the defence apparatus anymore. therefore the LEAST he can do is not to lie about defence related matters.
he lies always in this regard.
1. he knows very well why IDPs could not be released for so long but he made it into a political issue.
2. he accused MR govt of giving him 15 commandoes who may be his assasins!!
3. he publicly made a scathing remark about the army commander.
4. he threw mud at the SLN (navy) in saying that VP would have escaped by sea knowing well that there is a 3 tier defence mechanism. saying that there is a POSSIBILITY is a different thing.
5. he claimed the BULK of the credit for winning the war for himself.
6. he said he would even get VP's mother's help to oust MR and brothers. this is spiteful.
i don't trust AT stuff. but don't think they are 100% lies either.
these allegations must be investigated SOON.
Janaki,
Your style of responses make me think your blood relative Wijepala.
/1. I like the country to be unstable for the next term. This is going to happen under MR than under SF. (I can elaborate this point, if you like, later)/
PLEASE DO NOT BOTHER ELABORATING.
/3. Regarding the second(discredits), it is not clear whether you disagree with the violence as a category/instrument of progressive political project.. Or you simply take into account the fact of suffering (As in the popular version of the Mahathma gandhi)./
Name one civilization on earth which has not used violence as a political instrument. But blindly importing and experimenting such through stupid sensationalism is another thing. Especially if no end is achieved.
Gandhi's concept of using "suffering' as a tool of harnessing hearts and minds to propel activism and it's demonstrated ability in negating existed un-just law has no relevance to this discussion.
fonseka2010,
he did a good job here, in face book, lankawebnews, etc.
i don't think i could have done better. he did the vital "softening" phase for the fonseka 2010 campaign.
some of his claims STRANGELY coincide with the actual SF campaign.
e.g. YES WE CAN. SF calls it CAN DO.
e.g. a number of grievances match
if he did this without the support of SF, he is brilliant in anticipating things to come in great detail.
Saman,
1. Regarding the "next term": My point of departure is not the "taking national question as the fundamental axis of the analysis". On this basis I can make following points.
-If SF will manage to win the election, either he would sink under the UNP's political dynamics,or he would capable of creating a powerful authoritarian state structure, into which the global "capitalist" order gradually and slowly transform. Which means, the so-called 'Capitalism with asian values'. In the long run, this space would use by the JVP. I think, most of the time it would be the second option going to happen.
- This is not the case with MR. He is not 'capable' of that.
-Authoritarian sate structure means, de-politicization of the political space. This will mean china style "capitalist" order. So-called western democratic system is not the real alternative for the existing order, as most of the sinhala nationalists think.
2. on the point of the violence: I'm not agree with you.(but cannot discuss now)
3.On the point of gandhi: you simply misread me. My idea is that he was really more violent than most of the gandhi followers.
By de way do u know from any other way than asian tribune why SF got punishd in 70s.
It's stupid to believe Asian tribune article completely. But we know SF gt punished even b4 dat and de charge sheet doesn't seem to specify.
I'm seeking some 1 with a relative or friend who was there at that time...catest
Janaki said.
It seems that, SR@LK's focusing point is on the "development". Apparently he means specially the economic development..
So,SR@LK, do you really believe that the development of the infrastructure is a indication of the economic development of a country?
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I guess we are in different timezones. Let me put a counter-question to you.
Can you point to any example of economic development of a country that did not develop its infrastructure first (or in parallel)?
I am talking about the economic development of the whole country not just Western Province or Colombo (There are many people in these online blogs to whom development means development of WP or Colombo!!). Development of infrastructure (primarily that of roads and power generation) is a pre-requisite for that. I would be happy to learn from you any other way of doing that.
Ananda-USA said...
MY COMMENT:
Heal Thyself, India!
Ananda-USA,
Thanks for posting the HT article.
Well said. If India did not train 30,000 Tamil militants (per Rohan Guneratna) when Sri Lanka had a 13,000 person ceremonial army, then Sri Lanka will not need 6 out of every 1000 persons for security needs.
SR@LK,
on the one hand, If you are not going to reproach me of to be "theoretical" and on the other you are really interesting about the actual point, I can put forward some points.
1. To read some analyses about the economic development(I'm not joking or not going to hurt you..I'm serious). For eg. you can find those in analyses on 'economic underdevelopment'.
2.SR@LK asks: Can you point to any example of economic development of a country that did not develop its infrastructure first (or in parallel)?.......
Yea, I agree with you on that. But my point is another one:You can find examples where developed infra-structure is already a part of the under-developed economic system.(eg: Colombo) And more importantly, instances that the said eco: systems are functioning under same vicious cycle again and again.
To understand this logic, you must really take into consideration the fact that (for ex:) what are transported along these roads.
Gents,
I also want to second Ananda-USA's statement that this election needs to be over with and the urgent tasks of infrastructure development need to be focused on.
Sri Lanka needs to be the Hong Kong of the subcontinent. Not merely a transhipment point to the subcontinent but a financial mecca and an industrial hub of the continent. Already massive capital inflows are coming in. Despite a world wide recession, Sri Lanka can achieve spectacular economic development once the people vote in place the next government.
The woman who destroyed the richest eelamoid in the world.
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=apTuckYhnYYU
MD
Its well known that fonseka2010 was pro-LTTE (anti-SLA) blogger (real one), when war was there. I always had the question why he didn't change his profile once even used 'nangige hu##a'.
If he did by his own thats his talent but if you follow LNW you could easily do the same, provided you have time. I guess he is related to mongal and LNW team or perhaps even SF was aware of it.
Janaki,
Nice disavowal..Again the nice indication of my "LTTE partiality" and then comfortably relying on the same point without any disturbance.
Very nice, have you ever lost a job for raising black flags in your office? Just cut the crap, your blather will not take you anywhere other than garbage bins of Sri Lankan history. Once again, I could care the least about what you think. You are just plain garbage rejected by voters over and over.
Janaki,
Nice disavowal..Again the nice indication of my "LTTE partiality" and then comfortably relying on the same point without any disturbance.
Very nice, have you ever lost a job for raising black flags in your office? Just cut the crap, your blather will not take you anywhere other than garbage bins of Sri Lankan history. Once again, I could care the least about what you think. You are just plain garbage rejected by voters over and over
The Fonseka magic and logic
Sam,
-I'm sorry. I was not really going to attack you personally. I only wanted to tackle your position logically.
-If I don't take your harsh attack on me personally,and take it more literally, you would be correct about one thing( not about the flag story and vote story) that is the dustbin story.
Janaki,
I was not really going to attack you personally. I only wanted to tackle your position logically.
Didn't we talk about this some months ago?
Hi Janaki,
Do you want us to vote for SF?
Sam,
I got it only now..You think that I'm a previous person with a new profile...
Some other guy also hinted at the same direction some minutes ago, I think...
-NO
Thambala,
Even I'm not going to use my vote for any one in the forthcoming election.. So I don't want you to any way..
Other points are clarified in my previous posts..
Janaki said.
You can find examples where developed infra-structure is already a part of the under-developed economic system.(eg: Colombo)
To understand this logic, you must really take into consideration the fact that (for ex:) what are transported along these roads.
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I thing Sam picked it up correctly when he said you are wasting our time. You are going in circles. I am no economist. Why don't you highlight salient points of economic development?
Your last para shows your ignorance on the ground reality in SL as well as in the country you are in. If the countries had waited to develop their roads till they found things to transport on them, you would not have been in the country you are in today!!
Janaki, one advise: Take out your colored glasses and look around.
Ananda said….
[[ But, I will continue to expose any and all wolves in sheep's clothing accountable for their former vociferously argued positions .. if only to protect unwary patriots! ]]
Expose ….. Stars and stripes loin cloth (AMUDE) has to come out then.
Heh heh heh
[[Moshe Dyan said...
fonseka2010,
he did a good job here, in face book, lankawebnews, etc.
i don't think i could have done better. he did the vital "softening" phase for the fonseka 2010 campaign.
some of his claims STRANGELY coincide with the actual SF campaign.
e.g. YES WE CAN. SF calls it CAN DO.
e.g. a number of grievances match
if he did this without the support of SF, he is brilliant in anticipating things to come in great detail.]]
Moshe/Ninja;
We suspected this is Sarath Manamendra, the leader of nava sihala koti urumaya. Let me touch his CV.
- member of extremist socialist group [Revolutionary Army whatever]
- Pussycat trained
- arrested for supporting pussycats / claymore transport
- simhala fluency [if you rem there were few pussycats who a affluent in sinhala and were mostly joking ]
- Fonseka2010 rhetoric was repeated by him in public speeches.
- First person to invite SF to enter politics with them
- Mongala's goon [and that is how I think he got out of terror support charges]
I believe SM played a big part in negotiating with SF on behalf of Mongala and UNA. So he shud have been known to all the happenings from day 1.
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SR@LK,
Only two side glances from my part.
-If you take me as threat to be destroyed, then it would be useless to discuss such a theoretical points.(It is comfortable with Sam, cos' those are not strictly theoretical with him)
-SR@LK said: Janaki, one advise: Take out your colored glasses and look around.:::
I have already replied to your colored glass logic in my previous posts..If you want try to understand it..without that no help..
- one more point: I'm not here to win the world through this blog..In the least I'm here to understand how the people think and react and how they make their living through all these chaos at the same time.
Janaki,
You are not a threat to me or anyone else for that matter. I don't practice the art of destroying everyone who doesn't agree with my view point.
Kindly teach me why infrastructure development in Sri Lanka (as it is happening in SL right now) could not be a pre-cursor to overall economic development?
[I am specifically referring to roads, power and ports development]
SF mud slinging army.. 12 commandos assassination squad.. Politicians do mud slinging with each other.. SF became the first politician to sling mud to SLA..
/Asked about the killing of The Sunday Leader editor Lasantha Wickremetunga, Fonseka said yesterday that he had not personally killed or attacked any journalist and therefore any attempt to involve him in that crime would be tantamount to an effort to implicate the army, which he described as a professional and disciplined force. But, recently, he said something different, when the government offered him a security contingent consisting of soldiers and officers. He wanted to handpick his guards claiming that the personnel the government wanted to give him could even be an assassination squad! Ironically, he made this accusation in an interview with The Sunday Leader on Nov. 22. He said: "They initially reduced my security to 25. I protested. They then increased it to 60 infantrymen. Again I protested and now they have assigned me a mere 12 commandos –– not men that I handpicked. They are all new men. They could be an assassination squad –– maybe they are trying to assassinate me."
If the army is professional and disciplined and not capable of carrying out illegal activities such as assassinations at anyone's behest as Fonseka claimed at yesterday's press conference, why should he fear threats to his life from a group of army commandos assigned by the government to protect him? Hasn't he as the former army commander insulted the army in a bigger way?/
Janaki/SR@LK,
Mahinda mama thamange pawule aarthikaya nam hondata sanwardanaya karanawa rate aarthikaya mokkk unath.
Mahinda uncle is developing his family economy nicely irrespective to the country’s economy.
නිවහල් සිතුවිලි සිතනා සිතත් උදාරයි
නිවහල් නිමැවුම් මවනා හිසත් උදාරයි
එවන් අසිරිමත් ජාතිය ජයෙන් උදාරයි
යශෝ කැළුම් වරදෝතිය පිනෙන් උදාරයි
/Fonseka claimed that President Rajapaksa's predecessors, too, had tried to defeat terrorism though they never succeeded due to the failure on the part of the armed forces./
Great tribute to SLA from 'I am the hero'... Feel sad about Gen DenzilK, WijayaW etc.
/he said asserting that he would still have been the Commander of the Army, if the LTTE had not been defeated./
My understanding was its the president who appoints and give extensions to army commander, according to the law... Never knew army commander himself can claim until when he serves...
UNP has found the right candidate.. hik
B#1,
mokada macho pol adiyak wath gehawwada?
Ehemath nethinam Anandyage american pissuwa hedunada?
"they never succeeded "
Ninja, from where you get this word "never"??
Helaya.. LOL :p
Indian government have been waiting for PIRABAHARAN's Death certificate to finish Rajiv Gandhi court case
Sri lankan government did not give Death certificate of PIRABAHARAN so far.
Helaya,
I'm not arguing on behalf of MR. But on the contrary to the popular thinking, it is not the reason for under development the fact that some egotistic people's self feeding(fraud).
Most accurate questions would be the following ones:
What are they going to do with their money?(are they going to invest them or simply buying commodities with that)
And if they invest them, then in which sector? (eg.industrial or service sector)
Ninja (Read this carefully)
/Asked about the killing of The Sunday Leader editor Lasantha Wickremetunga, Fonseka said yesterday that he had not personally killed or attacked any journalist and therefore any attempt to involve him in that crime would be tantamount to an effort to implicate the army, which he described as a professional and disciplined force. But, recently, he said
"he had not personally killed or attacked any journalist"
If this is the verbatim of what he said then he was not denying his personal involvement.What he
was denying was holding the iron bar (or whatever) during the time it was landing on Lasantha. I can also vouch for that( SF did not have a hand on the bar -but I do not know about his handling of the murder by remote conrol.)
On the other hand if it is not the verbatim then person who was writing that sentence was trying to give another impression.
Almost always slip of the tongue leads to the heart.
Pen-slip is unusual for a news paper journalist.
B#1
You can find 'never' here
http://www.island.lk/2009/11/30/news1.html
Sinhala version (original version)
http://www.lankaenews.com/Sinhala/news.php?id=11295
Ninja, so you think reading Island is better than watching the real video??
SU
/had not personally killed or attacked any journalist/
HA HA VP also personally didn't kill.. at least in south..
SU,
Advice from a friend:
Take a break, I suggest 2-to 3 days, think ascending and descending (ANULOMA -PRATHILOMA) order about what has happened during last few days. Then come back with a fresh mind.
You are not doing any good for you right now. You deserve more than this friend.
/B#1 said...
Ninja, so you think reading Island is better than watching the real video??/
You mean 'real' video? I really like to see real video.. like to get one from cameraman.. HA HA.. Anyway whats your problem?
Ninja, I don't think Island is telling exactly what he told yesterday. Media putting some news with some fabrication for their benefits. I think you know this very well.
check even the title "Fonseka ready to secure even support
of Prabhakaran’s parents to defeat MR"
Did he say so??
He said Mage nyaya pathrayata yameku ekanga nam mama ohuge udhau laba ganeemata soodhanam ohu kavuru vunath..
Luckily you didn't watch the ITN news yesterday. :)
Ramanathan;
Looks like you have such a big concern about a petty topic of discarding a dead rat carcass.
[[ Ramanathan said...
Indian government have been waiting for PIRABAHARAN's Death certificate to finish Rajiv Gandhi court case
Sri lankan government did not give Death certificate of PIRABAHARAN so far.]]
Why don't they try a remaining pussycat hora-Kachcheri? Those who could issue birth certificates, ID cards and passports gotta be able to issue a death certificate.
BTW, don't tell me that India will invade SL for this matter. Or MR has agreed to merge North and East in liu for this. We had ppl of such capacity sadly.
Janaki;
[[several guys in this blog use the formula RW=MG=LTTE=SF....
Are you serius?I mean "do you really believe on that?]]
If = means "supports" or "is supported by", yes I'd agree.
SR@LK,
I already hinted at some direction in my previous post.I'm too not a economist or at least a formal student in that regard.
Quotation from my post:
" 2.SR@LK asks: Can you point to any example of economic development of a country that did not develop its infrastructure first (or in parallel)?.......
Yea, I agree with you on that. But my point is another one:You can find examples where developed infra-structure is already a part of the under-developed economic system.(eg: Colombo) And more importantly, instances that the said eco: systems are functioning under same vicious cycle again and again."
SR, I agree to your repeated point again.My point is different one...
It is possible to develop the infrastructure without being it a indication of the economic development of a country( as was often the case with Sri lanka).
In my view, your strong example( colombo) is the weakest point.
Most of sri lanka's infrastructural resources are used not for producing new values(which can be exported), but for the daily social reproduction.
If you take the roads in colombo, then you can easily observe the fact that they are basically used for following functions:
- drive expensive, 'imported' vehicles.
- to distribute imported commodities all over the country.
Copying an email I just received from a frnd.
UNP calls on SF hands in attck on media
BBC - 8th July 2008
Sri Lanka's main opposition party has accused the country's most senior army officer of being behind violent attacks on reporters.
Opposition MP Joseph Michael Perera told parliament that the attacks were carried out by a "special team" controlled by Lt Gen Sarath Fonseka.
Mr Perera said the government should arrest the offenders and "immediately bring them to justice".
The army has denied that it is any way involved in attacks on journalists.
Read more...
Helaya:
Advice was returned to you by return post. I hope that this is not a cyclic loop, for the sake of saving energy.
Thanks anyway!
Oh,
Hair Splitting guru is here on time, now he will reveal all rocket sciences for SL to everybody in next few hours.
I am off before I go insane.
SU,
Suite yourself mate it is your life anyway. I am not interfereing again but always wish for your happyness.
I am very sorry, if I annoyed you sir.
B#1;
[[He said Mage nyaya pathrayata yameku ekanga nam mama ohuge udhau laba ganeemata soodhanam ohu kavuru vunath..]]
Do you see the defect in this logic.
Someone may help him for not for his own "nyaya pathraya" but for the agenda of their own. There can be a party who gives rat's care for the exe presidency in SL, but would like to get the possible anarchy/instability/dictatorship that may arise if it is abolished w/o proper parliamentary system is in place.
There can be ppl who gamble on the defects and wweaknesses in SF and his clan, and hence hoping destruction of SL through them.
I am at no point gonna agree that SF has a moral freedom to accept pussycat money. But I am yet to get convinced of his acceptance of it. However, above comment suggests that he's in that line.
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