A cautionary note on the present situation re Gen Fonseka. Our task was to allow things to settle down on their own which has worked. However, recent developments led particularly by a section of the diaspora Sinhalese is a cause of concern for DefenceWire.
DefenceWire team's stance up to now has been to avoid commenting on this dispute knowing fully well the capacity of both the present government and SF to come to a compromise on:
1. The direction the Sri Lankan Military will take
2. The direction General Fonseka would have to go
These may not be the most ideal directions for either, yet they are ones that are at best described as realistic and unavoidable.
There are many moves by politically motivated Sri Lankans, including Sinhala groups and also non Sinhala Sri Lankan groups to exploit a disagreement that has unnecessarily spilled over into the public's eye due to politics in the military and a very small section of the military in politics.
These groups, particularly those civilians involved who are not insiders or have little inside information can or will not understand the discipline of a professional soldier to take what he wants and to relinquish duty when required sans insubordination.
A professional soldier is not Dutugemunu. The Sri Lanka Army/Military is a modern Army/Military positioned within a democratic society. The professional soldiers serving in it will know when to let go. By asking them to perform a larger role based solely on selfish motives of individuals in the periphery, they may destroy that soldier and even themselves and their reputation.
The Sri Lankan Military and its leaders are now hailed the world over for their victorious feat. Their role in bringing peace to the country through military means will be remembered for decades to come as the ultimate example of a trained military executing its sacred task flawlessly from start to finish. But remember this, dear readers, military action is a means of achieving the end and the end is always political.
DefenceWire, as an impartial site whose work you have witnessed for over 3 years now wish to appeal to our readers to refrain from joining or supporting either 'camps' and to allow the professional soldier and professional politicians to resolve potentially resolvable issues mentioned above.
Thank you
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«Oldest ‹Older 201 – 400 of 4363 Newer› Newest»"banda boy" my darling Channy?
No way, he is a true thevidiya Paiya....a true poolu....a Jaffna high-bred koodhi payale.
Peter, ennoda poola oombuda?
hehehe...
Sam Thambipillai - lol!
"Accountability demands responsibility"
No, dear, reverse it.
Freedom demands responsibility, which demands accountability, which demands consequences!
dailymirror, sundaytimes are tiger agents according to information from colombo
patriots
dailymirror, sundaytimes, Sri Lanka Guardian are all the same
Channy
"peter ponnaya"
yes, but don't blame him.
He saw his mother once give fellatio to their Jaffna goat when his dad was at the FDL....since then he cannot be "up"....
hehehe....
patriots
no one can defeat our king
Channy,
Sweetie, you are good at fellatio right?
Not sure what that word means? You naughty girl!
hehehe...
Peter
Do you have a lot of hair in your body?
See I am into ethnic harmony and am looking for a special kind of union....with a hairless Tamil she-male and viola, then you come along here!
hehehe....I got nice eyes ah?
Peter
Time to get off Hardcore and get down to Hard-boring ah?
hehehe....like my eyes? sexy ah?
Bye Channy aka Peter.....got to go eat goat meat and Biriyani (after that talk of a Jaffna goat!)
Let me update my database.
ID 14839013774752484930= Chanaka= Monkey
MonkeyCount= MonkeyCount+1
Jay the Little Terrorist Scummy,
Rest assured, I will waste a second to go back and pint to exact posts. You are nothing more than human refuse despite your bogus public appearance as a peace worker. You have a place in unmarked graves reserved for faceless and nameless terrorists.
Let me update my database.
ID 07809036198381030982= Sam Perera= ponnaya
ponnaya= ponnaya+1
Chanakam the LTTE terrorist Scummy,
Just in case you are not aware due to over consumption of Big Macs, Sri Lankan Army Special Forces killed your Thalivar and flushed his remains to your birth place, a cesspit in Peelam. Aah, I forgot to tell you that both Soosai and Puttu soiled their pants before joining Thalivar in Peelam. You turn to meet Thalivar will come in the future. However, you have to wait patiently since we have a long list of monkeys starting from KP.
Sam Perera is like peter
lives in a crazy world
haha
Sam, seriously, try reading the dictionary.
I suspect the other is an avatar of Asithri. Such a bright chap thinking I have to create "fake" profiles to pick an argument.
Sam, do you re-type each time, or do you have a Word document from which you copy and paste?
That's to Perera, not Thambipillai.
US seeks info on Gota from Fonseka
by Shamindra Ferdinando
Criticizing a US to move ‘interview’ Chief of Defence Staff General Sarath Fonseka, now on a short visit to the US, the Sri Lanka government says an attempt is being made to target Defence Secretary Gotabhaya Rajapaksa.
Highly placed officials say the government is aware of a US move to use General Fonseka as a ‘source’ against the Defence Secretary, in their investigations targeting the retired infantryman as a possible war crimes suspect.
They said that initially the government believed the US move had been aimed at the Sri Lankan government as it came close on the heels of a recent US State Department report on war crimes, though subsequent inquiries revealed the target of the inquiry was none other than the Defence Secretary.
Nothing could as ridiculous as this as the US forces were facing severe criticism over excesses in Iraq and Afghanistan and cross-border attacks on Pakistan territory using unmanned aerial bombers (drones), sources said.
They said that the Sri Lankan embassy in the US had been advised by law firm Patton Boggs that Sri Lanka could resist the US move to ‘interview’ General Fonseka in relation to the conduct of the Defence Secretary
An authoritative government official told The Island that General Fonseka was the senior most serving soldier in the Sri Lanka Army and could not be subject to questioning regarding military operations conducted by a sovereign state. Responding to our queries, he said that those who had failed to save LTTE leader Velupillai Prabhakaran on the banks of the Nanthikadal lagoon last May, were now engaged in a witch hunt.
According to the Sri Lankan embassy in Washington, General Fonseka had alerted Ambassador Jaliya Wickremasuriya regarding the US move after being asked to face an ‘interview’ by authorities. The embassy has brought this to the notice of the Defence Secretary. The embassy said that initially the US had said that they wanted information regarding the Defence Minister before being told that President Mahinda Rajapaksa held the defence portfolio. Subsequently, the US had said that the target of their inquiry was Gotabhaya Rajapaksa.
Sources said that US Immigration and the Department of Homeland Security were involved in the inquiry. The latest US move came within two days after President Mahinda Rajapaksa assured a thorough internal inquiry into the US State Department statement.
Ministerial sources said that a section of the international community was trying to exploit an Opposition allegation that General Fonseka had been sidelined ahead of forthcoming presidential and parliamentary polls. Sources said that this was a transparent attempt to sow dissension among the armed forces, thereby boosting the Opposition campaign against the government.
Sam,
May i please copy and paste the following after my comments to save you repeating it?
(You are nothing more than human refuse despite your bogus public appearance as a peace worker. You have a place in unmarked graves reserved for faceless and nameless terrorists.)
For all their ills in Iraq, American architects of that conflict are not making annual pilgrimages to renew coloured cards or hold onto duel citizenships. Neither are their kids boarded in Bandastan; I suppose US universities are good enough for them.
Jay the scummy,
Copy and paste? Of course we always knew that all what you do is too copy and paste white masters ideas with your name under it.
US seeks info on Gota from Fonseka
by Shamindra Ferdinando
nice spin from the island newspaper
Sam-
Thank you, you are most kind!
footnote:
(You are nothing more than human refuse despite your bogus public appearance as a peace worker. You have a place in unmarked graves reserved for faceless and nameless terrorists.)
The answer is NO.
No, SF will not subject himself for an interview with whoever in the US.
At least, this the position at this moment.
SF is traveling on a diplomatic passport and you do not order-in those traveling on diplomatic passports (at least not without a court order etc. that involve a complicated process) to "walk in" for interviews.
Sarath has all the right to refuse an interview as he has not being implicated in crime against the US or her people or US interests.
However, the element of uncertainty is whether he will exercise his right to voluntarily go for one because of his GC situation (and his daughters studying in the US, etc.) and this is where things are a bit murky.
As I said before, this whole episode smacks of a bloody "Accharu" where state imperatives have been over-clouded by personal imperatives. A silly fuss-about-nothing that should have never happened if people had used their brains!
No more can be said at this time - and you know why.
OaO Asithri
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Ministerial sources said that a section of the international community was trying to exploit an Opposition allegation that General Fonseka had been sidelined ahead of forthcoming presidential and parliamentary polls. Sources said that this was a transparent attempt to sow dissension among the armed forces, thereby boosting the Opposition campaign against the government.
//
Island newspaper sounding like SLBC
haha
Asithri ponnaya don't know that the general is using a normal sri lankan passport with his green card
Jay Haan Perera,
Of course kindness. You have misused the kindness of Sri Lanka too long for sure. Can you show the general Sri Lankans a 1/10th of the kindness you have for your terrorist brothers
peter & asithri both sound like ponna brothers
haha
asithri sakkiliya calling others sakkiliya
YOU are the sakkiliya
sounds like crimewatch
Chanakam,
Please check this video.
re: SF
What would SF do?
Secure his families future as he did in seeking greener pastures with a green card and took a calculated risk to renew that right or return to SL to face the Rajapakse cabal, politics etc.
Whose got the hymn sheet?
Ninja
[sounds like crimewatch]
Yeah, I wondered where I have come across this "chanaka" whoredog...that explains it!
:)) :)) :))
OaO Asithri
Asithri ponnaya
do you know the general ?
haha
general came here to renew his green card & see his daughters
Jay da thevdiya,
[Whose got the hymn sheet?]
I have it. We used it when we sang "Ode to Joy" at Nanthikadal Lagoon.
:)) :)) :))
OaO Asithri
diplomats don't have green cards
green card holders are subject to the law of the country
ponnaya like Asithri don't know any shit but shows off like a big shot
ponnaya is a ponnya always like peter
Canakkam,
This is another video boost your morale.
hey FF, good work bro here I see...maru wachana malli...para wesa kallathoni ballangey kahuttha kapala-wagey!
LMSSAO!!! Truly LMSSAO!!!
OaO Asithri
p.s. Thanks for be TM...
Interesting!
How SF travelled on a private visit to the US on a diplomatic passport to renew his Green Card.
I'm sorry this comes from a blogger in the "know".
I did'nt realise SF has the rank to qualify for a diplomatic passport?
Oh silly me, Karuna did..why not SF.
What court order? I don't recall UK Border Agency being granted a court order to arrest Karuna visiting on a Diplomatic passport.
But then i'm not in the "know"
...hic..
I do not believe this story that US homeland security is trying to get evidence from SF, against Gota. To me, there is something really fishy about these stories. SF will be the directly responsible one for anything happened during the last phase of the war. Now, seeking his evidence against Gota?? facts know doesn't add up.
I am going to shut up before I put my foot in my mouth. We need more facts even for speculations. (I can see the line between true and false is getting murkier.)
/I do not believe this story that US homeland security is trying to get evidence from SF, against Gota./
Media reported this news so far
Dailymirror
Lakbima
Island
Derana
BBCsinhala
Meda didn't report so far
LNW
LeN
tamilnutz
Lankatruth (JVP)
It may take a week to know the real story.. (until then di-ass-pora party..)
all hail the mighty king mahinda
hemantha said...
Let's not aim our guns at ambassador Butenis. She looks very outspoken and honest. I think we can have a better relationship with her (than with Blake).
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What matters is not what they say, but what they do. It is better to aim our guns first and than be sorry. She does not have a good record in other Asian countries she has worked.
some bloggers here are in denial
Chunnakkam,
You may enjoy this video.
don't worry fellow patriots
nobody can defeat the all mighty king mahinda
Hemantha,
I agree with Thusitha. Never trust these diplomatic monkeys from USA. What they say is one thing and what they do is a different thing.
this story about the general is false
the general is on BBC news main site
http://news.bbc.co.uk
sam ponnaya jumps in like a monkey
Ninja,
I believe the story that he is going to be questioned by HLS.
The rest is very strange.
It was the invitation to SF which was cancelled earlier from US Pacific Command. Gota visited US recently and nothing happened (which was good). And now this story. As you said we may have to wait for the truth.
"Ambassador Butenis informed Gen Fonseka that the US would rescind an earlier tendered invitation to the former Army Chief to attend a farewell event of the US Pacific Command (PACOM) Commander Admiral Timothy J.Keating at PACOM headquarters in Hawaii. The reason for cancellation was the allegations of human rights violations leveled against the Sri Lankan Army.-Lakbima"
Ninja said...
Media reported this news so far
Dailymirror
Lakbima
Island
Derana
BBCsinhala
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Also BBC is reporting.
Most likely this would amount to nothing. But even if this is a made up story I can understand why MR, GR want SF out. Maybe he is a great commander, but doesn't seem to grasp what is happening in the world he lives in. Just need to understand he is a war hero only to SL and most probably other military commanders. For the rest of the west, he is a war criminal who need to be punished.
Thoroughly pissed off of his behaviour.
Chunakkam the Little Terrorist Monkey,
We have seen enough monkey dances here and LNP to know who you are. It is always enjoyable when you do your spcial monkey dance with Peter, Bhirav and other low life scummies. Dance monkey dance.
don't worry patriots all mighty king mahinda will save the general
Jay da kandaara oli,
Individuals who hold "diplomatic passports" do travel the world on "private visits" using those diplomatic passports all the time!
Only a brain-dead LTTE sakkiliya like you would have a problem in figuring this out!
OaO Asithri
haha
sam perara ponnaya can't even recognize a real patriot
Sam and Thusitha,
"I agree with Thusitha. Never trust these diplomatic monkeys from USA. What they say is one thing and what they do is a different thing.
I think we need to be"
I think we should be open minded. The trust will come with time. Let's deal with her without any prejudice. It won't be easy to be as bad as Blake. If we can make a friend out of her that would be good for the country. (somehow I feel that is going to be the case. Time will tell weather I am correct or not)
fake patriots like sam ponnaya is worse than peter the ponnaya
BBC sinhala-> main page (the same article)
"Sri Lanka to Import Rice from Myanmar"
the king is doing a great job
hemantha
BBC sinhala-> main page (the same article)
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brother hemantha
its diffrent
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/8336759.stm
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sinhala/news/story/2009/11/091101_fonseka_us.shtml
(What they say is one thing and what they do is a different thing.)
Where have i heard that before?
..hic..
footnote:
Scummy, blah blah (please refer to Sam)
btw-
This report originated from sunday times picked up by all other news agencies.
hemantha said...
Sam and Thusitha,
"I agree with Thusitha. Never trust these diplomatic monkeys from USA. What they say is one thing and what they do is a different thing.
I think we need to be"
I think we should be open minded. The trust will come with time.
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Hemantha,
That applies only when you do not have a history. Here she already got a history. When you have a history, you use it to predict future behaviour. If she didn't have a bad history, I would have kept an open mind.
Asthri (man in the "know") is still figuring it out?
Sri Lanka Army to combat strikes
All the 27 major unions which form the Alliance of the United Unions of the CEB, and the workers of the CEB will arrive at a major trade union agreement at the unions summit meeting which will be held today at the Vihara Maha Devi Park, and their joint decision will be revealed to the country shortly. Unions are agitating for Rs.5,000 interim allowance, as the government had granted such to state banks employees —- but declined to grant same to others citing financial difficulties. Ranjith Jayalal, a member of the operations committee of the CEB Alliance of United Unions said that the CEB unions have decided to launch a joint strike with the support of Harbour, Petroleum and Water Supply unions —- instead of the three day strike they had initially decided upon.
The Petroleum workers worked to rule and refrained from working overtime on 23rd, 24th, 25th and 26th of October, demanding their delayed salary increments and the fulfillment of the promise of an allowance of Rs 5000, until the salary increment of 2009 is granted. The convener of the Petroleum United Unions, D.J. Rajakaruna said that the president hasn’t called them for any discussion, although the workers stalled union action as the president promised to initiate discussions with workers. Convener of the National Trade Unions Congress K.D. Lal Kantha said that the government ministers, terrified by this prospective strike, are boasting that the government will use Army soldiers to replace strikers. Lal Kantha said that there’s nothing the Army can do in a joint strike situation and challenged the government to do whatever they are capable of.
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all people will love the king
he will get 90% vote
he's the best king in 1000 years
Jay said...
btw-
This report originated from sunday times picked up by all other news agencies.
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Yeah, but if this is not the case government and military should be quick to squash rumours. It is not good to let this type of rumours persist for too long.
government confirms the story to bbc & afp
US government has no comment
US embassy in colombo has no comment
"something is going on"
that's what my brother is saying
Diplomatic passports do not guarantee diplomatic immunity, which is granted at the digression of the receiving state. Conventions cover diplomats. When one is on a "private visit", unless "immunity" was specifically sought, they are not covered.
Fonseka has obligations under his GC conditions. Gotha as a citizen of the US can by tried by US courts. He is, of course, welcome to forfeit his citizenship. Even so, he can be tried for crimes committed while actively holding US citizenship, though that is less likely.
Crux of the matter: Is Bandastan good enough for the families of "heroes" like Sarath and Gotha?
brother Thusitha
the story is true
adaderana website also reported this story
Rohitha’s Mumble jumble
Sunday, November 1, 2009
Couldn't the government find anyone other than Rohitha Bogollagama to present its case?
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(November 01, Colombo/ New York, Sri Lanka Guardian) The current issue of the UN forum newsletter has this to say about Sri Lanka's Foreign Minister, Rohita Bogollagama.
"As the government of Sri Lanka is getting wide international scrutiny for its treatment of a serious humanitarian situation, it would be assumed that when given a chance, by CNN, its main spokesman, the Minister of Foreign Affairs, will be lucidly presenting its view point. Alas, it was not to be. Rohitha Bogollagama mumbled along with amazing nonchalance. We could not get one clear sentence. Nor could we figure out what he was talking about.
We all have accents. We are familiar with Sri Lankan / English, which, by the way, is far clearer than many other Asian accents. However, Rohitha was something else. He spoke very quickly, with very heavily swallowed terms, often smiling needlessly when he ought to show some seriousness about a very grim situation. Apparently, he did not think there was anything grave in his neighbourhood. There were no detainees in Sri Lanka and he was working "hand in glove" (a colonially inherited expression) with someone somewhere to take care of pending matters.
What a pity. The reputation of Sri Lanka is at stake. When we joined the U.N. one of the best communicators was a Sri Lankan. There are many outstanding individuals whom we volunteered to praise when warranted. Couldn't the government find anyone other than Rohitha Bogollagama to present its case? Will it be downhill from now on?!
...send in the clowns..
Sri lankan Judges denied transit visas by Australia
SRI Lankan judges and magistrates who are expected to arrive in the country today were denied transit visas through Australia.
At a press conference in his judicial chambers in Suva yesterday, Chief Justice Anthony Gates said the Sri Lankan judges were not allowed to transit Australia and had to come through Korea.
http://www.fijitimes.com/story.aspx?id=132736
Why do i get the feeling Asthri is upset?
So, according to the man in the "know" he travelled on a diplomatic passport to renew his GC status right? (ie he never left US Borders)
...hic..
Asithri
green card = subject to the laws of the country NOT a diplomat
I've been mild with interns since witnessing Asithri's anger on these pages.
peter the joker
This is what happens when you get "buggered" in the RC cop shed.
The scars are lasting..
Any one for kaddalay?
Hey Asithri,
How are you?
[Whatever happened to "whore bitch" ]
She died in Nanthikadal Lagoon!
:(( :(( :((
OaO Asithri
tsk! tsk!tsk!
Hey FukkFace, what's up bro, I thought you were going to SD...?
Don't waste time here, I will Fukk (lol) these Tamil racist pundeys...gladly!!!
Macho, aroota call ekak denna mama kiwwa wagey hathara wenidata issalla okay?
OaO Asithri
Majula darling
"Are you busy holding cupped hands"
No darling, I have one fist up your Tamil amma's rectum as she loves fisting....
hehehe....
OaOA, yes, I am leaving tonight....ow, aiyey mama eyata call ekak dennam porondu wuna wagey...
Majula darling
How much of a shemale homo are you? See I love to have sex with a Tamil homo-shemale who is hairless (earlier I asked this from our Channy darling, but did not get a reply, damn it).....
Ada pundey, trust me....I will go all night long on you....I will bring you to ecstasy....you will never ever have constipation....I assure you!
hehehe...
Asithri,
Plumbing your mother's anal canal is my full time job. Guess that really does qualify me for the job title of sakkili.
Manjula koodhi (lolzzzz!!!)
“Constipation”…hehehe….yes para sakkili demala….if you Thalaivar had lived, he would never have had to take any laxative ever in his life….yes at Nanthikadal we performed a surgery to assure that…..too bad the sakkili paraya died prematurely.
Manju darling.....
See my eyes....para sakkili demala, you wanna cum in my eyes?
hehehe....
manju thevadiya mavan (lolzzzzzz!!!!)
I love hairless Tamil males....how about it? See my eyes.....see how desperate I am for sex in those eyes.....I love a Tamil shemale....I always had fantasies.....please pullu sappi, can we at least meet once.....I assure you I will tickle your prostate till you scream!
hehehe....
Asithri,
How about stitching your whore mother's pussy lips back together?
Look, our DS is even pitching in.
http://www.defence.lk/new.asp?fname=20091029_05
ha ha ha….LMSSAO!!! Truly LMSSAO!!! Whoa, FF, malli oya mey para wesa LTTE demala hutthangey kaali kapala…ha ha ha….mey thamai kiyanney hondama honda OaOA student kenek kiyala!!! Mey wagey uththara thiyena-kota mey blog ekata OaOA-wa oney neha!
LMSSAO!!! Truly LMSSAO!!!
OaO Asithri
Yup aiyeh, mama mey wesa ballanta hukkanna hari aasai…..hehehe….seriously bro, it is a joy to have these cocksuckers come tangle with me…..makes my day!
Hey Asithri,
What's wrong? You've reverted back to the mother tongue. Have you finally realized that your whore mother is dead? Don't worry, we all [collectively "patriots"] will excuse your necrophilia.
Peter
nice multiple IDs......but yo, I am okay with multiple IDs....so para wesa LTTE demala sakkiliya, do I get to tickle your prostate soon? hehehe...
I love hairless Tamil males....there were many in the FDLs I was told.....well, that is another story....for another time when we don't talk of "war crimes" okay....
hehehe.....
manju manju.....go get that enema darling....I am getting horny....I love you sweetie.....I am mad about you.....imagine getting to tickle the prostate of a LTTE shemale - finally!
hehehe....
Asithri,
We know that multiple penetration is a favorite of your mother. Only trouble is it leaves confused half breeds like you as offspring.
manjula aka chanaka aka peter.....wanna know a secret? Do you know what TMVP used to do to captured LTTE hairless (or little hair) male-bitches?
hehehe....one day I will tell you....nice juicy stories.....will make your eyes pop out!
heheha...
"US seeks info on Gota from Fonseka"
didn't we expect this???
that is why the washington buddhist monk made it very clear, it is fcuking important to keep the unity.
ANY MF who disturbs unity of the team is an offender against SL.
the US move is simple.
1. there are ABSOLUTELY NO evidence of war crimes, etc.
2. so the ONLY way to get some meat is by getting some "info" from the actors of the war.
3. that is exactly what they are trying to do.
4. expect the same thing from the EU, UN, etc. in another way.
Hey FF malli, nice work...truly outstanding, courteous response I see!!!
LMSSAO!!! Truly LMSSAO!!!
OaO Asithri
p.s. mata SD gihin aluth ph no eka denna habai call eken denna, email karanna epa....thanks.
Moshe Dyan said...
"US seeks info on Gota from Fonseka"
didn't we expect this???
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How credible is the news. I mean, if there are any war crimes charges, SF will go first. So to me either U.S. is extremely optimistic or some one is making up BS stories. It would be pretty tough to get Gota, what ever U.S. tried.
OaOA aiyey, ok, mama giya.....ow, call ekak dennam magey aluth nommarey hammba wunama...
TC.
thusitha,
US attempt to look into POSSIBLE WAR CRIMES is 100% certain.
agree????
that is what drives them. the US move is simple.
1. but there are ABSOLUTELY NO evidence of war crimes, etc.
2. so the ONLY way to get some meat is by getting some "info" from the actors of the war.
this is the rationale.
why GR was not subjected to this BS when he was in US???
bcos the US demand to look into POSSIBLE WAR CRIMES came subseqently.
IF there are war crimes, GR and SF are BOTH EQUALLY responsible (and others too). not one more than the other.
GR and SF were poor with media.
BUT GR NEVER made controvercial statements that can be USED AGAINST SL OR HIM.
unfortunately SF did.
not once but many a time.
e.g. i strongly believe this country belongs to .....
e.g. the PURPORTED ambalangoda speech
these things give our enemies something to go with. we should avoid it at all cost.
best things in life are to be enjoyed PRIVATELY.
BLAKE is eyeing, listening very hard even to sinhala radio programmes to find something, anything.
e.g. PM's hilary thing.
we should NEVER say anything that can be CONSTRUED a war crime, HR abuse or anything like that.
Moshe Dyan said...
thusitha,
US attempt to look into POSSIBLE WAR CRIMES is 100% certain.
agree????
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Of course. But getting it out of war SF would be bit difficult, because if there are any war crimes charges laid, SF would be at the top of the list.
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IF there are war crimes, GR and SF are BOTH EQUALLY responsible (and others too). not one more than the other.
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You misunderstood my comment, what I said was, it is impossible for SF to escape while when GR is charged. Therefore there is no advantage for SF to give evidence against GR.
The whole thing is a very unlikely scenario. Most probably U.S. is doing this whole thing just to satisfy their law makers. If this amounts to anything, then U.S. would be in a collision course with many Asian countries. Also this would play directly in to the hands of China and Russia.
@ Hemantha
/I believe the story that he is going to be questioned by HLS. The rest is very strange./
Two things in news reports.
1. US HS wants to quiz SF over war crimes BS.
2. US HS wants evidence from SF against GR over war crimes BS.
>> Out of all the media who reported 1 only a faction reported 2.
Once MR told to Blake 'the most you can do is to use CIA to kill me' - this is when US advising SL to stop the war. I think MR forgot there are other means as well for US to remove him..
Monkeys Jay, Manjulam Jeevanandam, Chunakkam, Peter
Oh comeon monkeys, we want a kazuthai dance from you this time. Your monkey dance is boring. I heard that Thalivar will return to this world after monkeys do the kazuthai dance 1 trillion times. There is some hope here kazuthais. However, you need to dance better. We want the donkey dance from monkeys.
Moshe,
"the PURPORTED ambalangoda speech"
He did not make such a speech. Pussycats claimed he did. Now you even use those pussycat's creations to attack the man. What a country.
"BUT GR NEVER made controvercial statements that can be USED AGAINST SL OR HIM."
This is BS. During the Puthukudiyiruppu hospital bombing case he (Gota) said that we will even attack hospitals. (And that is one of his comments discussed here too).
I am just making a point here. Whatever comments they made I know they both did those while saving the country. Both of them (Gota and SF) have very high places in my heart.
Ninja,
I understand your point.
ninja,
100% agree.
hemantha,
that is another stupid intepretation of what GR said by TE media, not us.
IF hospitals are used as staging platforms of terrorist attacks, or even any form of military manuvere AT THE TIME OF THE ATTACK, they become legitimate targets. this is according to the geneva convention. it cannot be twisted with bullshit.
it is the law.
whoever made that statement only stated the law as it is, NOT FACTS or ASSUMED FACTS.
hope you see the difference???
also look at the FUCKING FANTASTIC answer GR gave to kroucher about stopping the war to save civilians and the arse clown trying to go into the CSZ.
probably the best answer to the question.
IF talking, this is the type of answers we should give. but good not to respond at all, unless required.
also the lasantha issue.
"who is lasantha"
this is not a wise thing to say, but it cannot be twisted by bullshit twisters against SL to make out war crimes, HR abuses.
mate, i'm not trying to spin GR against SF. quite the opposite.
another potential trouble spot is this.
"[TamilNet, Wednesday, 14 November 2007, 03:15 GMT]
Disappearances and killings of will continue as long as ‘anti-terrorist’ operations are continuing, Sri Lanka’s Army commander, Lt. Gen. Sarath Fonseka said this week in a interview to British investigative reporters. Asked about human rights abuses in the newly captured Eastern province, the commander replied: “This area is not a normal area. So people getting killed and some people going missing will happen as far as the anti-terrorist operations are continuing.”
UK Channel-4: Unreported World
Killing for Peace
In a program on Sri Lanka by the ‘Unreported World’ program by Channel4, British reporters tried to travel to the island’s North and East to investigate the continuing abductions and killings of civilians.
As part of the program, the reporters interviewed Sri Lanka Army commander, Lt. Gen. Sarath Fonseka."
and this was NOT the last time these jokers had a mistaken smell.
/we should NEVER say anything that can be CONSTRUED a war crime, HR abuse or anything like that./
>> Ironically its SF himself who couldn't control his words.
/In Page 46, inside a chapter on killings of combatants seeking to surrender, the US State Department Report referred specifically to Maj. Gen. Fonseka and said, "July 10 – A media outlet reported on July 18 that at a celebratory event in Ambalangoda, Army Chief General Sarath Fonseka stated that the military had to overlook the traditional rules of war and even kill LTTE rebels who came to surrender carrying white flags during the war against the LTTE."/
>> This so called 'media outlet' is non other than LNW, as I know. Too bad white masters didn't mention the name. If this so called war crimes BS report is based on these LNW news reports.. then I will immediately stop blaming GSL for all the stupid things they do..
Further, SF made this speech in sinhala and when you report in english you may loss genuineness. I haven't seen the original video. And if you see the original video of sinhala speech of SF at DC and compare it with LNW, LeN, SLG reports you can see how much twisting is there. You can expect the same for previous speech. However, white masters love so called 'independent media' i.e. LNW, LeN, SLG..
/Fonseka’s statement puts Foreign Minister in difficulty
2009-07-18 | 3.30 PM
A senior Foreign Ministry official told Lanka News Web that irresponsible comments made by former Army Chief General Sarath Fonseka in the past few days put Foreign Minister Rohitha Bogollagama in a difficult spot during his visit to the Non-Aligned Movement (NAM) summit in Egypt. Fonseka recently stated that the military had to overlook the traditional rules of war and even kill LTTE rebels who came to surrender carrying white flags during the war against the LTTE.
Many foreign ministers and diplomats who attended the NAM summit had inquired after the statements made by Fonseka from Bogollagama on the sidelines of the summit. They have further said that killing those who try to surrender in a war amounts to a war crime.
“I managed the war like a true soldier. I did not make decisions from A/C rooms. I was under pressure to stop the war even during the final phase. I got messages not to shoot those who are carrying white flags. A war is fought by soldiers. They do so by putting their lives on the line. Therefore, the decisions about war should be taken by the soldiers in the battlefront. Not the people in A/C rooms in Colombo. Our soldiers have seen in life the kind of destruction carried out by those people before they decided to come carrying a white flag. Therefore, they carried out their duties. We destroyed any one connected with the LTTE. That is how we won the war,” Fonseka said at an event held in Ambalangoda to felicitate him on July 10.
A senior government minister told Lanka News Web that the comments made by Fonseka, which were critical of the Defence Secretary and the President, at the Ambalangoda event and another book launch added to the reasons behind the decision to send him on early retirement.
After assuming office as the Chief of Defence Staff, Fonseka said that although he no longer possessed the Army Chief’s sword, he would always act in the best interest of the people./
http://www.lankanewsweb.com/news/EN_2009_07_18_005.html
ninja,
"we should NEVER say anything that can be CONSTRUED a war crime, HR abuse or anything like that."
isn't it so!!!
they are very good at twisting truth to create bullshit.
that is why we should NEVER say anything that can be CONSTRUED as such.
unfortunately, a large number of these came from us. don't give them anything.
the statement, "i strongly believe this land belongs to the.........................."
was NEVER have been told by the army commander at the height of war to a canadian newspaper.
Moshe Dyan said...
GR and SF were poor with media.
BUT GR NEVER made controvercial statements that can be USED AGAINST SL OR HIM.
Moshey,
Gotabhaya and Basil lived in the USA for 16 years. They understand the intricacies of the US system. General Fonseka has never lived in the USA. He comes every 6 months per the law to renew his greencard.
I hope the Embassy has a top notch lawyer from Patton Boggs with expertise in that area sitting next to General Fonseka when he answers any questions. Otherwise they will tear him apart. As widely publicized in Sunday Times, Patton Boggs is a law firm that does PR (lobbying as they say in the USA). Not sure what legal expertise they have.
Per the Sunday Times articles, red flags should have gone up even before Gen SF came here -- His official visit to the retirement party for head of the Pacific Command had been withdrawn by the US and his official visit with Blake had ben cancelled by Blake because of illness (the excuse Blake had given).
At the end of the day, Gotabhaya, Basil, and General Fonseka will find it very difficult to live or visit the USA. Gotabhaya and Basil are citizens while General SF is a greencard holder. Their best bet is to liquidate their assets in the USA (which Gotabhaya and Basil have already done by selling their houses here) and to renounce their US Citizenship. Gneral SF would need to live in the USA for five years to get his citizenship. It would be impossible for him to do so in this environment.
MD
I thought you and me as bloggers can say any thing we like, say for fun - but not MR< GR or SF.
But you are correct. Even we should not say any thing bad - next US war crimes BS report might quote us as well for evidence for war crimes.. "page 93- blogger ninja said SLA axed thaleivar".. "page 78 - blogger moshey dyan said kill all the terrorists".. "page 86 - blogger asithri said SLA did polima for malathi sluts"..
casc,
exactly my point.
that is another reason why they concentrate on SF than the rest.
1. the point is, we have to at least now, address this issue with the co-operation of the parties concerned.
2. it is difficult for SF to go on rubbishing all the nonsense reported by false media.
but he should AT LEAST reject the statement PURPORTEDLY made by him in the US report page 46. the longer he doesn't deny it after appearing in a US report, the more the twsiters become concerned. justice delayed is justice denied, unfortunately.
so SF, etc. have 2 responsibilities.
1. stop making statements that can be CONSTRUED as revelations into violations of laws.
2. reject the making of alleged statements that are published in the US report.
"Even we should not say any thing bad - next US war crimes BS report might quote us as well for evidence for war crimes.. "page 93- blogger ninja said SLA axed thaleivar".. "page 78 - blogger moshey dyan said kill all the terrorists".. "page 86 - blogger asithri said SLA did polima for malathi sluts.."
That's a good one.
CASC
Quite true. I understand if one normal guy from SL wants to come to US.. for better things/money in life. But I don't understand why SF, GR etc still keep their interest on US.
Perhaps, they expect to leave SL once they lose power as many politicos/ high ranks do. Its the usual case you leave SL and come to a western country when opposition/ enemy comes to power. But enemy is west is worse than local enemy.
They all should have withdrawn their citizenship and greencards and get rid of all assets/ responsibilities even before they started war.
SF coming to US is like RP giving arms to LTTE..
ninja,
LOL!
i will be the first rank in warr crimes, in that case!!
OMG!
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“I strongly believe that this country belongs to the Sinhalese but there are minority communities and we treat them like our people…We being the majority of the country, 75%, we will never give in and we have the right to protect this country…We are also a strong nation … They can live in this country with us. But they must not try to, under the pretext of being a minority, demand undue things.”
-Gen SF (Sep. 2008)
click here.
/“I strongly believe that this country belongs to the Sinhalese but there are minority communities and we treat them like our people…We being the majority of the country, 75%, we will never give in and we have the right to protect this country…We are also a strong nation … They can live in this country with us. But they must not try to, under the pretext of being a minority, demand undue things.”
-Gen SF (Sep. 2008)/
Well, I don't care what terrorists rights champions, int.media and INGO kakkas say about this.
Mahawamsa recorded prince gamunu saying 'tamils in north, sea in south, how can I sleep with relaxed arms and legs?' to his mom.
I hope SF's this statement will be recorded in mahawamsa with golden ink...
Moshe Dyan said...
ninja,
LOL!
i will be the first rank in warr crimes, in that case!!
OMG!
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The way the U.S. is collating their war crimes report, there might be a very good chance they would use comments in this blog as well.
SF should not open his mouth if he is called for Homeland security meeting. Only lawyers should talk. With the pride SF got, it is very easy to say the wrong thing.
SF comment (watch from 17.00)
2007 Nov.
click here.
G'day patriots,
Been a long time...Things have got quite interesting...
As DW said SF is human and what Gota said about him is true...He had a lot of animosity with Vasanha Karannagoda and sometimes they were not even on talking terms..He was made CDS bcoz he refused to serve Admiral Karannagoda, if he became CDS. He did appoint suitable officers
for suitable posts, but he also overlooked/ got rid of a lot of suitable officers who were not on good terms with him...
At the moment both the General and MR seem to be concerned about their own survival..They seem to have forgotten the more important issue of the SURVIVAL OF THE MOTHERLAND..
MR has to get in contact with SF immediatly and tell him all is forgiven...SF must ASAP get into SL embassy premises and claim diplomatic immunity..He has been requested for a volantry interview so he is within his right to refuse..
thusitha,
"SF should not open his mouth if he is called for Homeland security meeting. Only lawyers should talk."
yes, this is very serious. that's why they have him at HS!!
not even a casual comment!!
And the alleged comment SF made about killing surrendees..What he meant was LTTE launching attacks using surrendess as a cover..That bit seems to have been LOST IN TRANSLATION..
Diyasena,
I understand your concern. But I think we (sri Lanka) should act calm calculated manner. This may not be that big a deal too(most probably).
diyasena,
i don't like to tap MIA's back.
but there were debacles in muhamalai. don't know whose fault they were.
but when VK referred to it as a DEBACLE, SF wasn't happy and they were not on talking terms.
VK cited the debacle positively to tell SLN to be vigilant bcos LTTE may strike anytime.
i think (my be wrong), that's when the thing started. IF TRUE (only guessing), it is very unprofessional of the wrongdoer.
this is another crap that can potentially grow into a SHIT hole for us. some MFs like MIA are sniffing about this.
i strongly feel the strategy in muhamalai was wrong during the many debales. many would disagree with me.
it went even to the extent of me arguing with the long ranger.
but i don't think it was SF's strategy.
this is YET another reason why TEAMWORK is important. even if you are a champion, its not worth if you cannot be a good teamplayer.
my only hope is the team stays together.
AS THICK AS THIEVES!!!
And
"He did appoint suitable officers
for suitable posts, but he also overlooked/ got rid of a lot of suitable officers who were not on good terms with him..."
And Gen JJ was seventh in seniority. When making him the commander of the Army one can claim six others were overlooked. So, it is better to stop slinging mud at each other. (I did not mean you here)
Moshe,
From my meager knwoledge the second Muhamalai debacle (the first was during Agni Kheela) was caused by an overeager division commander who wanted to get a tick from MR by letting him announce the capture of elephant pass during a speech in parlaiment..Even SF was in the dark...But VK,GR and everyone else was livid with SF becoz no air or naval support was sought..THE MUHAMALAI DEBACLE WAS A SURPRISE ATTACK THAT EVEN TOOK OUT DEFENCE COUNCIL BY SURPRISE..
Machan Hemantha,
Point taken..This is time for action not mudslinging..I still reckon he should move to the embassy, just in case, to avoid a potentially embarrassing situation
Sinhalese basically won all critical battles against British in udarata before 1815. However, we lost the country. One key reason was un-unity among leaders. John Doily did a tremendous spy work for British. Now we have Patcy Butenis. Sinhalese failed to identify friends from enemies. Personal concerns overrode among leaders.
Over estimation of own strength made the road to ND lagoon for VP and other kaluthais. Should we make the same mistake? Over-trust on west, di-ass-pora and tamiznadu jokers also was VP's mistake. Should we make the same mistake? (There is a limit China/ Russia give cover.)
Unity was the key defeating LTTE. (At least among the key players - MR, GR, SF, RG, VK, BR,...) Without unity we may lose the country again after winning the war.
Ninja said...
......SF coming to US is like RP giving arms to LTTE..
Ninja,
Not sure if the great General understood that dimension.
There are a number of people who have families out side Sri Lanka so they need to spend some time in the USA or EU. I read some where that Gen Jagath Jayasuriya's siblings are in the USA. General Fonseka's children are here too. There are a number of former army families resident in Southern California.
Milinda Moragoda is a US citizen too. Born in Washington, DC. Palitha Kohona has Australian citizenship. I wish he was still foreign secretary. He had a backbone. The new foreign Secretary Romesh Jayasinghe seems to be a quiet academic type.
Diyasena said...
Machan Hemantha,
Point taken..This is time for action not mudslinging..I still reckon he should move to the embassy, just in case, to avoid a potentially embarrassing situation
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Yeah, I think that is the best choice right now. The SL way of thinking is, we didn't do any war crimes, therefore we should not be afraid to face U.S. HS. That is bullshit. This is not the time to take any risks. I just don't understand what is so important about having a U.S. green card or a citizenship. At their age, life in SL is 10 times better than U.S (It is a different story when you are young).
Therefore please rip off that bloody green card and just come back home.
/Diyasena said...
Machan Hemantha,
Point taken..This is time for action not mudslinging..I still reckon he should move to the embassy, just in case, to avoid a potentially embarrassing situation./
And what next? Is he going stay inside embassy forever? Or will MR appoint SF as ambassador? (Then move freely, at least to SL.) (I guess we are not watching crocodiles in tea cup.)
Recent photographs of the President
http://www.asiantribune.com/news/2009/11/01/rajapaksa-worships-tirumala-temple
Looking at some of his recent photos, he seems to have aged a lot recently. He is in his mid 60s and he seems to be showing his age.
/ Diyasena said...
Moshe,
From my meager knwoledge the second Muhamalai debacle (the first was during Agni Kheela) was caused by an overeager division commander who wanted to get a tick from MR by letting him announce the capture of elephant pass during a speech in parlaiment..Even SF was in the dark...But VK,GR and everyone else was livid with SF becoz no air or naval support was sought..THE MUHAMALAI DEBACLE WAS A SURPRISE ATTACK THAT EVEN TOOK OUT DEFENCE COUNCIL BY SURPRISE../
Firstly, I don't think this is a right time to discuss this. But let me add; if its a division commander who was responsible it should be SamanthaS now in US defence attache. There were only two divisions in NMK axis (53 and 55) and they had only three division commanders within this period. (SamanthaS, KamalG, PrasannaS) However, being the commander SF took responsibility (he didn't pass it down) unlike many others did in past.
Bhadrakumar seems to be one of the few sane people in the Indian foreign policy establishment
http://beta.thehindu.com/opinion/lead/article41916.ece?homepage=true
Ninja,
"Firstly, I don't think this is a right time to discuss this."
I agree with you there. But Diyasena is not the one who brought the subject here. Now days it is coming up regularly started by SF at LNP, Mahen, Deshapaluwa... and the list goes on. The reason is obvious.
casc,
so true about badrakumar.
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there was another by the name balakumar in the LTTE who was trying to be like badrakumar!!!
dunno what happened to him.
diyasena,
but there were many unsuccessful attempts that costed us dearly.
e.g. aug 2006
apr 2008
"becoz no air or naval support was sought"
yes. this was my argument.
as i said b4, i don't think it was SF's strategy.
Why so called Lankan war-criminals love to have US as their retirement homes while they call SL as Mother Lanka? The stunning fact is that these war-criminals and heads of SL, who get everything they want and be treated 100 times better than any fellow modas in SL, think foreign country is paradise compared to their own country.
If you're moda, you're always moda.
Everyone,
In number of lives lost Stalingrad and many other battles were debacles for the Red army..Nevertherless they did plant the Soviet banner on Reichstag...Same goes with us whatever happened during Jayasikuru or the multiple pushes at Muahamalai, we won in the end...
Though we won the victory in the battlefield, we still havent solidified it into a political victory..Therfore all effort should go into conserving the MR-GR-SF triumvate...None of the three are perfect..Yet they were and still are the best option..
At the very least MR must recreate the internal affairs ministry and give it to SF for now..after 2/3 victory in parliament an amendment could be brought into make him defence minister and maybe even make him the world's only Field Marshal
"If you're moda, you're always moda."
Agree. That is why you are still a Pig lover. lol!
Bhairav said...
The stunning fact is that these war-criminals and heads of SL, who get everything they want and be treated 100 times better than any fellow modas in SL, think foreign country is paradise compared to their own country.
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True true. That is until some one like Ranil comes along and give their locations to suicide bombers.
This is funny
/Subramani of Naripaiyur, a boat crew of a mechanised boat at Rameswaram, has revealed that many strangers can be seen among the Lankan forces./
This super smart tamiz fishermen should know all about SLN.. SOme are strangers.. others must be well known navy officers to them HIKZ
/Liden of Pamban, a boat owner, said that the fishermen saw several Chinese forces among the Lankan navy personnel and they were in clad in Lankan navy uniforms. “These men aremore harsh in their treatment towards the captured Indian fishermen,” he added.
According to the fishermen from Ramanathapuram district, who have been attacked by the Lankan navy at mid sea, the Sinhalese are being accompanied by men who have Chinese features and who talk in a different language./
This different language must be chinese.. SUper smart tamiz fishermen know all languages for sure..
Truth must be there were no any SLN presence..
/Now days it is coming up regularly started by SF at LNP, Mahen, Deshapaluwa... and the list goes on. The reason is obvious./
Funny thing here is according to these clowns (I mean MIA etc) SF is solely responsible and it looks like its only thing SF has done in war. Then who planned other offensives? According to same logic of these clowns full credit of war victory should go to SF. Anyway, this is useless topic at this time.
/Abysmal 90% fail rate of internee Tamil children in Year-5 exam
Sri Lanka's Tamil cultural destruction continues at unabated speed with the latest results of the year-5 exams released by the Department of Examinations, after a 30-day unexplained delay, revealed that only 507 students out of 5413 children who sat the Year 5 examination-2009 from the internment camps located in Vavuniyaa have passed. The Department released the results of Year 5 examination for other provinces on October 2./
This must be tamiz exam genocide. So there are exams in these nazi concentration camps.. But there is no way these super duper tamiz getting 90% fail rate.. If thalievar grade the exam all of them get passed and promoted to Lt.Col. HIKz
Its certainly looks like there is a concerted international effort to bring back Mahinda govt in line. Few things are happening give indication or some form of co-ordinated activity. The US and Australian govt refusing visa and questioning sl officials, trade union action and so on.
I suspect individuals in Indian/US/EU along with other minor allies AU may be playing a part.
I agree the 'pora talk' against these powers had some use while LTTE was being defeated. But now finesse and diplomacy must come into play.
Unfortunately Mahinda has lost the plot not following up with political and other measures such as reconciliation which these power deem are necessary to keep the region stable.
By refusing to abolish exec pres etc which he himself promised earlier gives indication the man is out of control.
Will there be a disadvantage to everyday SL joe if this govt is voted out due to this external pressure? I doubt it. If govt falls then its probably a good thing. Although I suspect few in this forum will instantly lose some income.
@ Panhinda
/Will there be a disadvantage to everyday SL joe if this govt is voted out due to this external pressure? I doubt it. If govt falls then its probably a good thing./
So the bottom line is throwing away UPFA/MR is the solution for whatever issues we have (visa, war crimes BS..) In other words RW/UNP should come to power and do whatever white masters tell, sending IDPs, Federal etc. . Now this is my UNP friends solution too. In that case, please be patient and let SL people decide in election.
Also, please tell mongal not ask to hold PE in two years and demand PE ASAP, so you can vote soon.
Ninja,
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In other words RW/UNP should come to power and do whatever white masters tell, sending IDPs, Federal etc. .
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Look, you may have a genuine feeling of insecurity having UNP in power. It may be related to the opinion you have developed UNP is involved in a conspiracy with 'white masters' to break the country and create an eelam. You also seem to use the emotive word 'Federal' which create a great deal of fear in ordinary Sinhalese.
However, taking emotion out and looked at it OBJECTIVELY an entirely different picture emerge. Politicians use your lack of objectivity for their own political benefit. They will fan the fears you have to keep doing the wrong thing in nations interest.
No one says Federal. What they say is implement 13 (which is already law), bring in 17th and abolish exec presidency etc. Now Mahinda does not benefit if he implements these reforms. Becuase then he lose control. He cannot appoint puppets in the police, treasury, judiciary etc so he can personally benefit AS HE ALREADY HAS AND KEEPS DOING. What he does is scares you so that he carry on abusing powers for his own benefit.
Just take some time and think. Thats all I ask.
i miss our good friend from USA. must be having a busy schedule.
God bless you mate, wherever you are.
we know you are upto something good always.
ninja,
'gonata andanawa' is something mahinda is very good at. he did that to LTTE but now he things people who supported him earlier can also be a good 'gona' for him.
anyone who does want to put in political reform to fix the obvious problems we have is a traitor.
@ Panhinda
I am not going to try convincing you that you are wrong. If UNP/RW is your choice so be it. You don't have to waste your time promoting RW/UNP for me.
ninja,
that is a far better response than what i was expecting.
usually what happens here is like when you drive through a village where all kinds of dogs run barking behind your car.
things have definitely improved. you are indeed correct that i have an opinion and i shared it as you have yours in a respectable fashion.
i will use by franchise availabel to me to vote this toxic presdient out for good i hope in the next election.
@ Panhinda
I think SL people now have got enough tuition on the toxic king, his family business from mongal and perhaps you. If you don't mind please spend some time telling some fairy tales about your new perfect president.. People may like to listen.. I might enjoy.. No offense.
ninja, the irony is neither you nor I vote for a president not becuase he is the best for the position. but rather becuse you dislike the alternative. that is the tragedy that is befallen to people of sl. 15 million people but cannot produce a genuine leader at peoples interests at heart. may be i should nominate myself.
@ Panhinda
As I see RW/UNP mongal are doing all right so far. (I mean, you should tell your party will win in the election no matter what.. otherwise whats the point contesting.. Its like Bangladesh captain saying we will win against Auzis and it should be like that..) Step 1 is generating hatred toward MR on floating voters. UNP/mongal release their daily dose on how the king and his family doing corruption and so on but I don't know how successful it is. But just becuz you hate you may not vote for another unless you hope alternative is better than current one. (You may stay home.) This is where step 2 comes, you give all the standard promises including abolishing EP, solution acceptable to all ethnic groups, good governance (17A), less ministers, no corruption etc together with new alliances etc. I guess UNP/mongal waiting until PE is called to go for step 2. Until then this is like wedding without groom. So I hope I didn't mess up your agenda. I think I am going to enjoy step 2.. our new president.. HA HA
guys,
the US report
MOST "evidence" is based on BULLSHIT by HRW and AI!!
"The law recognizes, however, that civilians taking direct part in hostilities lose their immunity from attack. In addition, while certain objects, such as schools, are presumed to be civilian objects, they are not immune from direct attack if they are being used in a way that makes an effective contribution to military action and if their destruction might accordingly offer a definite military advantage."
so, what's the problem then???
we only attacked LTTE military build-up.
"The principle of proportionality requires that parties to a conflict refrain from attacks on military objectives that would clearly result in collateral civilian casualties disproportionate to the expected military advantage. Accordingly, some level of collateral damage to civilians – however regrettable – may be incurred lawfully if consistent with proportionality considerations."
we were well within this.
that's why we didn't use heavy artillery during the last phase of the war when civilians were trapped.
US talking about proportionality!!
my arse!!
/so, what's the problem then???/
Business for US low firms
Happiness for di-ass-pora
Votes for Democrats
Ninja said...
/so, what's the problem then???/
Business for US low firms
Happiness for di-ass-pora
Votes for Democrats
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Most probably that is the case. U.S. is just going through the motions. They cannot ignore such a report. Most probably HS guys would like to shake hands with SF. They have enough trouble with Islamic Fundamentalists and Mexicans crossing the boarders. I am sure they are hoping to get some tips to solve that problem.
Having said that silence is golden. Hopefully SF gets back without creating more controversy.
Defence Secretary Gotabhaya Rajapaksa was questioned by US immigration authorities on in his arrival in US as a member of the Sri Lankan delegation attending the UN General Assembly this year, National Freedom Front (NFF) leader Wimal Weerawansa told reporters today.
“This was not revealed to the media at that time. However, our Defence Secretary has been questioned for one hour by some US immigration officials on his arrival in the country. Nevertheless, they have no right to question him on human rights issues. Now, these foreign forces appear to have renewed their conspiracy to hound the political and military leaders who led this war to a successful completion. They are trying to use Gen. Fonseka for this purpose,” NFF President MP Wimal Weerawansa said.
this is self-admission of the crap in the US report!!
"Such limitations preclude the kind of testing and corroboration of evidence that would be necessary to evaluate whether the allegations presented are factually supported and/or would constitute violations of international law. Such legal analysis requires comprehensive and detailed information about the context of specific incidents that was unavailable here. For example, a determination about whether particular conduct would amount to a crime against humanity requires an assessment of the purpose and intent of government sponsored or sanctioned actions. In the context of civilian casualties, an analysis of whether particular military operations were conducted consistent with the laws of war would require an understanding of who committed the harms and the knowledge and intent of those actors when the operations were conducted, as well as information regarding whether apparently civilian persons were actually taking direct part in hostilities or civilian objects were being used to contribute effectively to military actions.
In conclusion, there were SIGNIFICANT limitations on the State Department’s ability to collect and assess information."
didn't i say so???
TF the ONLY way is to get it from us!!
that's why we should refrain from saying ANYTHING that may be CONSTRUED as a possible violation of the IHL and HRs.
if we can guard against this, we are through this bullshit allegations.
ninja,
don't know what wimal w is trying to say???
questioning by immigration authorities is a different thing. obviously they were not questioning him on possible violations of IHL or HR abuses!!!
proper answering of concerns in the US report which is very easy, will permanantly relieve us from having to put up with this warcrimes nonsense from the US govt.
the conduct of oba-ma has been very professional. he cou;d have made one STUPID dumb ass statement that would sent the tamil die-arse-pora crazy. all this is the work of that ASS CLOWN blake.
GOSL should take time and respond to the allegations considering the VITAL limitations paragraph in the report.
should not give any more info on allegations than denials.
IF SF can safely avoid all this crap for another 5 days not giving any info, plus the above, WE ARE THROUGH this rubbish!!
yahooooooo!!
can't wait to see the TE die-arse-pora crying.
thank you all the patriots for your efforts to keep the team united.
remember, LUNATICS NEVER UNITE!!!
Patriots,
We know you want to know what happened.
As with all other visits Gen. wrote to our Ambassador in Washington for a summary of the political situation and for professional opinion on safety of his visit.
Our Ambassador had said it is all safe and that he has briefed the relevant people.
Now we know that was a trap by another cunning Rajapaska. Because they wanted the Gen. out of the PE race.
Two things may happen now. If Gen gives evidence people will trun against him calling him a traitor. If he doesn't he can be held in USA for preventing course of justice so that he can not do essential election work.
This is another example of how the Raja family has troubled our greatest general and compromised national security to secure election victory.
Patriots,
Rajapaksa clan had asked our brave soliders to sacrifice their life giving security to this man who now says "time ripe for intervention"
http://www.srilankaguardian.org/2009/11/time-ripe-for-your-intervention.html
We have to BELIEVE IN CHANGE
Government has trapped Gen. Fonseka
http://fonseka2010.blogspot.com/2009/11/government-has-trapped-gen-fonseka.html
Fonseka 2010 said...
Government has trapped Gen. Fonseka
http://fonseka2010.blogspot.com/2009/11/government-has-trapped-gen-fonseka.html
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Isn't your master a silly goose? That is what happens when people like him have stupid advisers like you.
Thusitha said...
Fonseka 2010 said...
Government has trapped Gen. Fonseka
http://fonseka2010.blogspot.com/2009/11/government-has-trapped-gen-fonseka.html
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Sri Lanka First. Hahahaha.
Man, it took you long time since I mentioned conspiracy theories to come up with something like that. Pretty slow.
Castle takes the Queen. What is your next move Fonseka2010.
asian tribune attacks general fonseka
visit & read my fellow patriots
asian tribune are very close to calling him a "traitor"
king mahinda's media army on the attack
Why General Fonseka decide to meet U.S. authorities without the knowledge and consent of Sri Lanka Government?
Conspiracy theorists are having a field day. Just can't understand the logic that SF will some how help U.S. to make charges against GR. Either both are guilty or neither. There is no other way.
Chanaka said...
asian tribune attacks general fonseka
visit & read my fellow patriots
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It is most likely from some one who wants others to believe it is coming from MR. Most probably coming from LTTE/UNP or CIA type organization.
It took almost two days (48 long hours) for him to inform Sri Lanka ambassador in Washington and his immediate superior Defense Secretary Gotabhaya Rajapaksa
By the time he informed the embassy and the defense secretary in Sri Lanka, Fonseka had already given his consent to meet the officials of the US Department of Homeland Security (DHS) at its Oklahoma office on November 4.
What made Fonseka to agree to the ‘voluntary meeting’ for 4th of November, 48 hours before he intimated Ambassador Wickremasuriya and his ministry in Colombo?
Why did he contact his lifelong friend Sanath de Silva and his attorney when the Sri Lanka embassy already has Patton and Gibbs lawyers who had the competency to professionally advise Mr. Fonseka?
In fact, it was this Sanath de Silva who organized the religious ceremony to invoke blessing on General Fonseka at the Washington Buddhist Vihara at which he declared that if his nation does not take the correct path he is not reluctant to shed his uniform to get on to the road.
The next question is why is General Sarath Fonseka so eager to give this ‘voluntary interview’ to the officials of the Department of Homeland Security?
Asian Tribune understands that Mr. Fonseka is enthusiastic about meeting with US Department of Homeland officials.
It is the Human Rights Violations and War Crimes Unit of the Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) under the U.S. Department of Homeland Security that has invited General Fonseka for this ‘interview’.
In pursuing foreign war crimes or human rights abuse suspects, ICE is uniquely situated to employ its combined authorities under both criminal and immigration law. Under existing federal criminal statutes, where the United States can exercise jurisdiction over the actual foreign offenses (such as torture, genocide, war crimes or the use of child soldiers), the Human Rights Violations and War Crimes Unit closely works with U.S. Department of Justice (DOJ) to seek prosecutions.
what is the general doing ?
we will find out soon
brother Thusitha
i am an independent patriot who is puzzled by the general's visit
Patriots,
This story is filed in Asian Tribune by "Daya Gamage – US National Correspondent". He is a well known activist of the Rajapaksa family and is working overtime for them to secure a position in one of our embassies. We also know that the Asian Tribune website is owned by the Jaffna Tamil who is also likely to be on pay of the terrorist Eelamist elements.
chunnakkam the little terrorist money,
What made Fonseka to agree to the ‘voluntary meeting’ for 4th of November, 48 hours before he intimated Ambassador Wickremasuriya and his ministry in Colombo?
Don't think that you can fool others here. You are just one out of an illustrious list of monkeys who failed to do the donkey dance correct. I just copies a few sentences from your fake allegations for the record. It will take a long time for a monkey to realize that others know monkey' donkey crap.
guys,
stop spreading nonsense.
1. the meeting will be on the 4th. that means more than 2 days to go. and SF had said NOTHING so far!!!
so why the jokers are speculating???
2. the meeting is called 'voluntary' by the US unit which is going to carry out the investigation.
SF never agreed to any 'voluntary' interview!!
read the news items (although it is biased). it clearly says so.
3. who said it is about GR???
4. SF is not such a fool to look upwards and spit.
5. there is NO real rift between MR and SF and OBVIOUSLY no rift between GR and SF!!
have some respect for our war heores. don't spread DIVISIVE BULLCRAP.
that serves only anti-SL MOTHERFCUKERS.
defence secretary is a civilian post.
a military officer giving evidence against a civilian officer on "war crimes" is hilarious!!!
Moshe Dyan
haha
Slobodan Milošević was a civilian leader
Fonseka 2010
asian tribune is pro king mahinda
asian tribnue is owned by a sinhalese not a tamil
chunnakkam the LTTE scummy,
You need to practice your Kazuthai dance more.
CASC said
‘Their best bet is to liquidate their assets in the USA (which Gotabhaya and Basil have already done by selling their houses here) and to renounce their US Citizenship. ‘
I see something good here as whatever these gentlemen sought in the green pastures of USA should be created in SL.So why have double standards for political gain which they do just the opposite in SL creating much heartache for the average man/woman in the street?
I hear that our judges are refused transit visas to Australia. Unless we put a sincere effort to rebuild the country at least in the lines of Singapore dirty Diaspora will use their voter clout and money find fault with us at every turn.
Diaspora will be tempted put every effort to find a way to exchange a person like SF with KP and I was told that is one their line of thought..
One must expect them to use their mussel to intimidate us further and it’s up to the gosl to give a thought to various conventions that the IC expect us to adhere. One must remember that SL is a small country, fairly insignificant in the West and they could use many standards without any consequence to themselves. We are not Israel with some sort of technological and their own Diaspora clout in the right places in the world.
We have advised people at the highest level how to go about but fell on deaf ears because the hangers on are giving the executive a false sense of security.
I will not be surprised if the top man it self is inconvenienced in some way. Who is gong to come to our rescue, Goddaffi, Ammandinijad or the dope peddling Burmese regime?We must get real without being arrogant and ignorant.
Let's hope SF will come home safely.
Fonseka2010 is either a diaspora tiger bootlicker or a UNP boot licker from Kandy whose ultimate goal is to see Ranil in power by hook or crook.
Ladies cool off, have faith in the General. He knows what he's doing.
After all he's the man who directed the SLA to end the bloody war culminating with an open brain surgery at Naththikandal lagoon
Moshe Dyan said...
guys,
stop spreading nonsense.
1. the meeting will be on the 4th. that means more than 2 days to go. and SF had said NOTHING so far!!!
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I think MR is trying to get political mileage out of the situation. Now he can say that U.S. is conspiring against the government. Good for the PEs. Good man.
I'm not Bhairav
"have faith in the General"
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he is not king mahinda
in king mahinda we trust
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