A cautionary note on the present situation re Gen Fonseka. Our task was to allow things to settle down on their own which has worked. However, recent developments led particularly by a section of the diaspora Sinhalese is a cause of concern for DefenceWire.
DefenceWire team's stance up to now has been to avoid commenting on this dispute knowing fully well the capacity of both the present government and SF to come to a compromise on:
1. The direction the Sri Lankan Military will take
2. The direction General Fonseka would have to go
These may not be the most ideal directions for either, yet they are ones that are at best described as realistic and unavoidable.
There are many moves by politically motivated Sri Lankans, including Sinhala groups and also non Sinhala Sri Lankan groups to exploit a disagreement that has unnecessarily spilled over into the public's eye due to politics in the military and a very small section of the military in politics.
These groups, particularly those civilians involved who are not insiders or have little inside information can or will not understand the discipline of a professional soldier to take what he wants and to relinquish duty when required sans insubordination.
A professional soldier is not Dutugemunu. The Sri Lanka Army/Military is a modern Army/Military positioned within a democratic society. The professional soldiers serving in it will know when to let go. By asking them to perform a larger role based solely on selfish motives of individuals in the periphery, they may destroy that soldier and even themselves and their reputation.
The Sri Lankan Military and its leaders are now hailed the world over for their victorious feat. Their role in bringing peace to the country through military means will be remembered for decades to come as the ultimate example of a trained military executing its sacred task flawlessly from start to finish. But remember this, dear readers, military action is a means of achieving the end and the end is always political.
DefenceWire, as an impartial site whose work you have witnessed for over 3 years now wish to appeal to our readers to refrain from joining or supporting either 'camps' and to allow the professional soldier and professional politicians to resolve potentially resolvable issues mentioned above.
Thank you
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«Oldest ‹Older 401 – 600 of 4363 Newer› Newest»Chanaka, i have to agree with you.
After all its King Mhanida who kept the entire west at bay, buying ample time for our men and women in uniform to do the first ever brain surgery on a god...
Gents,
As Moshe has said, we need to stop questioning the motives of MR, GR, and SF. They will not undermine each other. The meeting will take place. The Government of Sri Lanka will provide legal counsel.
There is nothing "voluntary" about these meetings. That's a misnomer.
Kevin,
The story about judges not being allowed to travel to Australia is not directly related to Sri Lanka.
Sri Lanka is providing judges to the Fijian Judiciary who become defacto Fijian officials. Australia has said that they will not allow any Fijian officials to travel to Australia. Fiji is another country where outsiders (indentured labor from India brought during colonial times) have attempted to displace the indigenous people. It's good what Sri Lanka is doing to help the native Fijians.
I'm not Bhairav said
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Ladies cool off, have faith in the General. He knows what he's doing. '
Bravely spoken! I wouldn't want to be in SF shoes now.
This reminds me of the phrase
'Only fools rush in where angels fear to tread'
If he had the right awareness of the true reality and the mood of the 'contaminated' West I wouldn't have rushed off like this as it makes it difficult for decent folks in US who is in sympathy with him on his fight to eradicate terror in his own back yard.I sincerely hope better sense will prevail with the HS guys and let him be.
Hillary's undiplomatic qualities
http://original.antiwar.com/justin/2009/11/01/hillarys-ill-will-tour/
antiwar.com is a far left crazy site
lol
I agree with CASC,
Publicly discussing half known facts and hypothetical scenarios lead to further confusion. That is what exactly monkeys (spotted and green) want. That is why we have characters like Chunakkam popping out of nowhere to drum up this nonsense.
CASC
I know little about Fiji except that they have a strong Indian Minority brought in by the Colonials to run their sugarcane estates. There are large scale HW violations against the Indians a couple of decades ago where the Indian born PM was overthrown by the indigenous forces. As always the West identify with the minority and anyone like our judges going there to buttress that regime gets no sympathy in the West and this is sad.
Sam Perera said...
I agree with CASC,
Publicly discussing half known facts and hypothetical scenarios lead to further confusion. That is what exactly monkeys (spotted and green) want.
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Sam,
I wish that work, but if people stay quiet, then the monkey dance gather pace. Being quiet doesn't work. It doesn't matter what we say or don't say, their is a huge campaign to destabilize the country. It is clear from the articles that papers publish.
Much better to go on the offensive. Defensive doesn't work any more. Look what happen when GR thought he can be quiet on SF common candidate situation. He had to come out and start making comments. It is better to attack from the beginning and nip things in the bud. Even this thing, it would have been good if SF or an Intermediary made a proper comment instead of letting people do the guessing.
kevin said...
There are large scale HW violations against the Indians a couple of decades ago where the Indian born PM was overthrown by the indigenous forces. As always the West identify with the minority and anyone like our judges going there to buttress that regime gets no sympathy in the West and this is sad.
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Yeah, it would have been our fate if it was not for the independence. Otherwise Tamil workers would have keep on coming to SL and we would be the second class citizens of SL.
Then again, the Fijians are tough bunch and the Indians wouldn't be able to screw around with them the way Tamils did. Come to think of it, no other minority has ever screwed around with a majority the way Tamils did and got away so lightly.
US has no right to question Gen. Fonseka - Govt.
Monday, November 2, 2009
Whatever information General Fonseka may have acquired in the exercise of his official duties is privileged by nature. Therefore, it cannot legally be shared with third parties without the prior approval and consent of the Sri Lanka authorities.
_______________________________
(November 02, Colombo, Sri Lanka Guardian) “I have invited you to meet with me this afternoon, to emphasize in my capacity of Foreign Minister that the President and the Government of Sri Lanka stand firmly behind the Office of the Chief of Defence Staff of Sri Lanka. We will not allow that high post to be denigrated or made vulnerable,” Sri Lankan Foreign Minister Rohitha Bogollagama said today at the press conference.
According to the Minister, “the facts of the case as available to us are that the CDS General Sarath Fonseka who is at present in the United States, received a letter from the US Department of Homeland Security or DHS, calling him for an interview at 3.00 p.m. on Wednesday 4 November in Oklahoma City, in the State of Oklahoma. Moreover, he has also received a telephone call on 28 October during which a DHS Attorney had stated that the objective of the interview is to use him “as a source against human rights violations done by Secretary/Defence”.
It had been clarified during the telephone conversation that the reference to "Secretary/Defence" relates to Mr. Gotabaya Rajapaksa, the Secretary of the Ministry of Defence, Public Security, Law & Order of Sri Lanka.
It is pertinent to recall in this regard that Mr. Gotabaya Rajapaksa's duties as Secretary of that Ministry required his dealing with a situation of a grave onslaught that threatened the integrity of Sri Lanka and which was launched by the LTTE, an organization proscribed by several countries including the United States, for its terrorist activities. The allegations therefore leveled against the Sri Lankan Defence Secretary affect the vital interests of the Government of Sri Lanka and have occupied considerable time and attention of the respective Governments, at the highest levels. In fact, the US Ambassador in Colombo has already been briefed of the decision taken by the President of Sri Lanka to appoint a Panel to consider the matters raised in this Report. This decision by the President stems from Sri Lanka's unbroken commitment as a democratic nation to the Rule of Law, under which allegations are first assessed as to whether they possess any substance meriting further inquiry.
The Chief of Defence Staff is a high level position within the Sri Lanka Government. He traveled to the United States on a diplomatic passport for pre-arranged appointments. Moreover, whatever General Fonseka may have become aware of during his service with the Government of Sri Lanka and in the course of his duties, has the status of privileged information. He has no authority to divulge or share this information with third parties, without the prior approval and consent of the Sri Lanka authorities.
tbc...
US has no right to question Gen. Fonseka - Govt.
Monday, November 2, 2009
Whatever information General Fonseka may have acquired in the exercise of his official duties is privileged by nature. Therefore, it cannot legally be shared with third parties without the prior approval and consent of the Sri Lanka authorities.
_______________________________
(November 02, Colombo, Sri Lanka Guardian) “I have invited you to meet with me this afternoon, to emphasize in my capacity of Foreign Minister that the President and the Government of Sri Lanka stand firmly behind the Office of the Chief of Defence Staff of Sri Lanka. We will not allow that high post to be denigrated or made vulnerable,” Sri Lankan Foreign Minister Rohitha Bogollagama said today at the press conference.
According to the Minister, “the facts of the case as available to us are that the CDS General Sarath Fonseka who is at present in the United States, received a letter from the US Department of Homeland Security or DHS, calling him for an interview at 3.00 p.m. on Wednesday 4 November in Oklahoma City, in the State of Oklahoma. Moreover, he has also received a telephone call on 28 October during which a DHS Attorney had stated that the objective of the interview is to use him “as a source against human rights violations done by Secretary/Defence”.
It had been clarified during the telephone conversation that the reference to "Secretary/Defence" relates to Mr. Gotabaya Rajapaksa, the Secretary of the Ministry of Defence, Public Security, Law & Order of Sri Lanka.
It is pertinent to recall in this regard that Mr. Gotabaya Rajapaksa's duties as Secretary of that Ministry required his dealing with a situation of a grave onslaught that threatened the integrity of Sri Lanka and which was launched by the LTTE, an organization proscribed by several countries including the United States, for its terrorist activities. The allegations therefore leveled against the Sri Lankan Defence Secretary affect the vital interests of the Government of Sri Lanka and have occupied considerable time and attention of the respective Governments, at the highest levels. In fact, the US Ambassador in Colombo has already been briefed of the decision taken by the President of Sri Lanka to appoint a Panel to consider the matters raised in this Report. This decision by the President stems from Sri Lanka's unbroken commitment as a democratic nation to the Rule of Law, under which allegations are first assessed as to whether they possess any substance meriting further inquiry.
The Chief of Defence Staff is a high level position within the Sri Lanka Government. He traveled to the United States on a diplomatic passport for pre-arranged appointments. Moreover, whatever General Fonseka may have become aware of during his service with the Government of Sri Lanka and in the course of his duties, has the status of privileged information. He has no authority to divulge or share this information with third parties, without the prior approval and consent of the Sri Lanka authorities.
tbc...
..continued...
“I have accordingly met earlier this afternoon with H.E. Ms. Patricia Butenis, the US Ambassador to Sri Lanka, to convey through Her Excellency the message that the Department of Homeland Security should forthwith desist from any endeavor to interview General Fonseka. Ambassador of Sri Lanka to the US Jaliya Wickramasuriya has also made similar representations to the State Department in Washington DC,” the Minister said.
"Let me reiterate that this position of the Government of Sri Lanka is based on the following two well founded principles."
"Firstly, whatever information General Fonseka may have acquired in the exercise of his official duties is privileged by nature. Therefore, it cannot legally be shared with third parties without the prior approval and consent of the Sri Lanka authorities. The matter under reference has serious implications for the security and welfare of the people of Sri Lanka and the Government of Sri Lanka will under no circumstances, authorize such an illegal act."
"Secondly, the action taken by the DHS is not needed, since any issues that may be of concern are already being addressed at the highest levels on the part of both the Government of Sri Lanka and that of the United States. You would recall that I have earlier in my remarks to you, already referred to the briefing given to the US Ambassador, concerning the appointment of a Panel by H.E. the President of Sri Lanka."
“I wish to emphasize that my conversation a little while ago with Ambassador Butenis was cordial and constructive and in keeping with the long standing relationship that exist between the United States and Sri Lanka,” he concluded.
Way to go Boggols!
Excuse the double post of the first half..
...hic..
Concluding paragraph
from a statement issued by JHU.
(We should not forget the possibility that the charges that are being framed against the Defence Secretary will also be directed against the President. Hence it is the duty of all patriotic forces to quickly come forward at this crucial moment to defeat this despicable conspiracy that the United States hatching against the Defence Secretary and Sri Lanka, using General Fonseka who gave leadership to defeat Tiger terrorists. The JHU wishes to warn the U.S. that the party would not tolerate this harassment anymore and patriots and nationalist forces would not hesitate to teach Washington an unforgettable lesson in this country if the U.S. tries to punish Sri Lanka by resorting to unwarranted actions.)
Fighting talk!
Demos..burn effigies..graffiti, burn the US flag, burn green cards?
don't worry patriots
the king will the save the general
JHU is a joker party
king must not work with them
the all mighty king speaks
from dailymirror
No need for foreign courts to solve our issues- President
President Mahinda Rajapaksa says there is no need for international courts to make any attempt at solving issues in Sri Lanka as the domestic law is capable of dealing with those issues. The President made the comments during a foundation stone laying ceremony for a modern Courts complex for lawyers in Colombo today.
hail the mighty king Mahinda
US special forces committed war crime not that long ago too (not that one condones the other).
Massacre at Mazar
4000 Afghan soldiers who surrendered to the Northern Alliance were massacred under the supervision of US Special Forces, a documentary by British filmmaker Jamie Doran has alleged.
http://www.fantompowa.net/Flame/massacre_mazar.htm
pahinda
never heard of that web site
maybe the king will start a court case in sri lanka on that
Massacre in Mazar-e-Sharif
video
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3732298630673672606#
send the video to defence.lk
they can inform the king
will the general try to escape ?
mexico is 700 miles away from oklahoma
Chanaka said...
antiwar.com is a far left crazy site
Chanaka,
I take it that you have never read any articles written in Antiwar.com
Have you seen the list of contributors to Antiwar.com ?
http://antiwar.com/columnists.php
Patrick Buchanan is one of the most right wing zealots in the USA.
He has run for the Presidency of the US on several occasions.
The only thing that all of the contributors have in common is that they are against US military intervention in other countries.
Interesting article on NY Times about Raj Rajaratnam, here you go:
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/02/business/02insider.html?pagewanted=1&8dpc
magically you are secured according to those people
lol
Chandrika speaks to Hillary on behalf of the General
Former President Chandrika Kumaratunge had spoken to US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton to know the stance of the US government in relation to moves by the US government to interrogate Chief of Defence Staff General Sarath Fonseka, a senior official from the Opposition Leader’s Office told Lanka News Web.
The former President who is currently on a personal visit to Paris had made the telephone call this morning.
Meanwhile, Opposition Leader Ranil Wickremesinghe who is currently in Polonnaruwa had made a telephone call to former US
ambassador to Sri Lanka Robert Blake.
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During the discussion it had been said that the General would be subjected to routine questioning and there was no intention to detain him.
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general is safe
http://www.lankanewsweb.com/news/EN_2009_11_02_007.html
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Asian Tribune understands that Mr. Fonseka is enthusiastic about meeting with US Department of Homeland officials.
//
asian tribune lie
Chunakkam the Terrorist Monkey,
Your reliable new source is LankaNewsWeb? You are a very poor pretender.
sam perera sakkilia is not happy because it is good news
general is safe
patriots
don't believe the lies by asian tribune
CASC,
I honestly don't think that Chunakkam the kazuthai has any idea who Pat Buchanan is. Chunnakkam does not know the difference between left and right. His thalivar never had any idea about it either.
sam ponnaya
Pat Buchanan does not define the right
Chunakkam the LTTE terrorist,
Pundei andei, enga pore? Did you get laid off from your sakkili toilet cleaning job recently?
Speaking of Sakkili, it was not that long ago when we kicked LTTE kazuthais out of Sakkilinochchi, the place your head sakkilya aka Thalivar said that it is Sinhalese daydream to capture. Of course, we did that and now we call it Kilinochchi.
King is here.
Hi LTTE Terrorist Maha Raja(paksa) aka Manjulam Jeevanandam,
True to you monkey status, you have changed your name now to Maha Raja(paksa). Changing your name will not make you a human. You are still subhuman refuse. Please try to beat Pnnasekera2010 who had 14 names.
"King is here"
hail the king
Sam Perera said...
CASC,
I honestly don't think that Chunakkam the kazuthai has any idea who Pat Buchanan is. Chunnakkam does not know the difference between left and right. His thalivar never had any idea about it either.
Sam,
You are right. No point wasting our time. Reminds me of Pina in Muwanpalessa.
/You are right. No point wasting our time./
Yep. He writes 'sam ponnaya', 'asithri sakkiliya' and 'hail king'.. boring and really no point wasting time and web space. Ponzy2010 (both) are much better than him at least he gives some fun in his work..
Sam and CASC,
I do not think this Chanaka bugger is a pussycat. I have a good guess. But it is too early to tell.
Bhairav
Your terrorist lobby in US well and truly fixed Rajaratnam for investing heavily in SL.Soon US will realize who they hove got amidst of them.Just a matter of time.
Sam, my loyal servant, Sakvithi will send two copper coins for your virgin sister.
We read that Rohitha is in talks with the US ambassador and I hope she will convey the feelings of the majority of Sri Lankans with r.p.t SF. to her country.
After 10.30pm he only talks to war widows about "pensions arrears". US woman will have to wait until tomorrow.
Sam, my loyal servant, thanks for teaching kohomba kankariya to your cute sister. We have the whole royal crew eagerly waiting to drill the lil devil.
milosovic was a civilian leader. so was many other war criminals.
that's not the point.
the point is a MILITARY LEADER "implicating" or using a military leader to "implicate" a civilian leader over "war crimes" at such an early stage of investigations is a JOKE!!
don't believe that crap.
those are rumours for the consumption of THICK HEADS.
"Chinese Navy involved in attacks on Tamil Nadu fishermen"
it is confusion arising from COMPLEXION!!
tamil madu ppl are VERY VERY dark and so are a number of SLs. so when they see a fair person, they think he must be either pakistani or chinese.
the fairer guys had talked in english which was like chinese to the tamil madu guys!!!
Moshe Dyan said...
"Chinese Navy involved in attacks on Tamil Nadu fishermen" it is confusion arising from COMPLEXION!!
Moshe,
You need to start a website like TamilnetTV This is too funny !
patriots,
as the US report goes, there are NO WAR CRIMES against SLs. to prove war crimes you need,
1. INDISPUTABLE evidence of civilian massacre/destruction of civilian property.
THERE IS EVIDENCE
2. proof that civilian casualties/civilian property damage were caused by SLs
THERE IS NO CONCLUSIVE EVIDENCE
3. proof that they happened when those civilians, etc. were not used by the LTTE for a military advantage.
THERE IS NO EVIDENCE
4. proof of using disproportionate force
THERE IS NO EVIDENCE
5. the knowledge possessed b4 the attack by the SLs was such that they knew of the disproportionate collateral damage that would happen.
THERE IS NO EVIDENCE
6. the intention to deliberately cause civilian damage/disproportionate damage or the intention of not to care about civilian damage/disproportionate damage.
THERE IS NO EVIDENCE
CASC,
mate, tamilnet will beat me!!!
Our Royal English dialect, exclusively found on Denfnce.lk, Army.lk and other royal websites, is very difficult for peasants to understand.
Maha Raja(paksa) aka Manjulam Jeevanandam aka Punde Andei,
Royal English? Can you speak a single word of Sinhala?
MD,
US govt has no interest whatsoever to pin general SF on anything but those liberal bastards in USA and elsewhere who shout for anything and everything have to be kept at bay by showing that they do something about majority opinions.
We have nothing to worry about well being of the general. He will be back in SL as soon as he finished his private business in USA.
Let all desperate ezham lovers to have another ejaculation over this. We already know how desperate they are with anticipations.
K @ K
SF did the right thing by informing Gota about the inquiry. That 48 hour delay mentioned in AT looks BS to me.
If he has to go for the interview lawyers hired by the Sri Lankan government would be representing SF all the time. He can reject answering any question as he wishes and his lawyers would sit next to him and would be advising him about which to answer.
Much hyped claim "using SF against Gota" is BS. Only after the first interview we will know what the US government is really after. It can be nothing. Or it can be the beginning of many things.
SF might loose his green card as a one outcome (I think).
Keshara,
It is great if that is being the case.
@ Keshara
What Keshara said is probably the case. But GSL can't assume 'it will be ok approach'. According to some news reports this is nothing but a regular interview for any GC holder while according to some other reports this is aimed at a deal for testifying SF against GR and actions against SF depends on out come of above and US HS war crime division is doing investigation.
@ Hemantha
Given the issue between SF and MR/GR perhaps SF first got legal advice from his own lawyers and then contacted GR. This may delayed it by 2 days.
Anyway, it will take a while (weeks) for us to get the true story.
@ H & N,
What I expressed here is my logical narrative after reading all relevant news items. However, GOSL should look at all possible avenues to save our good general from possible harassments by overzealous clowns.
K @ K
Ninja,
According to 'The Island' HLS has contacted SF on 28th (US time??). And SF has contacted Gota on 30th (SL time or US time??). That is what Gota has told them.
keshara,
agree.
GOSL, SF, GR have to just pass these FORMALITIES. in doing so they need to be professional (as they are), a LITTLE bit meticulous (as they are), to the point and show a little bit of PR (which they can).
it is like a (regular) medical check-up!!! no need to get excited. it will take time and effort, inconveniences. a few pinching sensations. few unpleasentness. but that's all about it.
we have MFs in SL too who LOVE to fish in troubled waters. they are like dogs feeding upon whatever drops from the dinner table of the rich tamil elam diaspora.
TAG (terrorists against genital-o-cide) gave a BS report. that led to some excitement. MFs in SL enjoyed its byproducts.
after all they too need some fun, after years of LOSING, humiliation.
we have a strange situ in SL.
MR - vietnam, nepal, india
RW - bang-cock
CBK - USA, europe???
SF - USA
BOGS - india??
mutuhettigama - singapore
vezapillai - hell
its 2 years to yesterday since SLAF heroes burried that cripple tamilchelvam (smiling ASS-ASS-in).
very strange toiletnet is silent about it???
MD,
I value general SF as a national treasure and respect GR and MR for what they have accomplished during last 03 years.
However, general is the man to protect and kept at the helm of the national defence. His courage, vision and unwavering loyalty to the nation must be appreciated by all those who are having well wishes for our mother land’s integrity in the future.
I also think Gota will never let down our general but cannot be sure about MR’s future plans and actions. MR has not yet proved his loyalty to the nation other than saving the country from malign cancer called LTTE. He could have done it for obvious other reasons; only future will tell us the true nature of MR. However, I do not have any evidence to suspect GR or SF for foul play.
K @ K
"In his address to all ranks, Army Commander explained the soldiers about the leadership given by the President and Secretary of Defence to Security Forces during the war and the great responsibility shouldered by the Army in de-mining the areas mined by the terrorists and develop them to re-settle people under “Uthuru Wasanthaya” programme conducted by Mr. Basil Rajapaksa MP, the Senior Presidential Advisor. Army Commander also gave necessary instructions to officers on solving problems faced by the soldiers."
-Army.lk
click here.
The values of a society has to be absolute, not relative.
Here is a worst case example to make my point:
If a monk or a priest disrobes and becomes a womanizer, what you see is a career hypocrite.
So, I disagree with DW's view on how to accommodate Sarath Fonseka's conduct.
We can say that Mr. Fonseka has done his duty and now he can do whatever he wants to do. However we are not talking about any duty. This duty involves lives of people ans specially those loyal soldiers.
If we try to create our life rational to accommodate anything - that is a situation of relative values and we CAN'T create a great nation that way.
So, DW's opinion on Mr. Fonseka is BIASED, not independent.
our little priorities are different in the case of SF, GR, MR. that is perfectly alright.
some kids love their mums a little bit more than their dads. some others, the other way round.
same in the case of SF, MR, GR
my order of priority is.
person - apponitment date - by
MR - 18 nov 2005 - people
GR - 25 nov 2005 - MR
SF - 06 dec 2005 - MR/GR
WK (appointed by CBK) and RG are also heroes and most SLDFs.
This I agree:
[Much hyped claim "using SF against Gota" is BS.]
SF will never betray SLG, Gota, or MR. He can damage his reputation in the eyes of Sri Lankans who thing he is a hero however by seeking citizenship in another country.
Asian Tribune is a Tamil owned newspaper and obviously hates Mr. Fonseka.
Didn't someone say AT owner once wanted Mr. Kadirgarmar's position?
Well, someone is creating a troubled waters to fish.
in classifying them i ONLY use defence as the criteria and ONLY based on info available so far.
IF MR fails in multi-ethnic recolonization of the north or brings in 13+, he becomes a traitor.
if SF or even RW does or brings up a good plan about multi ethnic recolonization of the north, he becomes a bigger hero.
the right club for the time.
When I was writing on a forum infested by LTTE, one Tamil guy told me Character assassination is worst and easier than murder.
They are doing that for Mr. Fonseka. However Mr. Fonseka, GR, and MR is responsible for some of that.
Current Sri Lanka is NOT driven by wisdom rather fear and short slightness.
The war is easy.
[IF MR fails in multi-ethnic recolonization of the north or brings in 13+, he becomes a traitor.]
This can't be imagined without Mr. Fonseka. This is the Sinhalese-centric Solution to Sri Lanka.
Anything else is Self-Centered solutions.
Folks,
Writing after some time. Whoops, pot is boiling when I came back to news sources after three days brk.
Again there is no rocket science here isn't it? The "extra-interview" of US with SF, whatever that was meant to be, tells me that US is behind the plot of breaking SF and MR, and hence perhaps willing to bring RW into power by destroying each other in the eye of public. And it is a proof for what NFF leader WW called about US is operating a "hit-woman" on SL in the capacity of Butenis.
Why do I think so?
Think of what outcome can happen in this "questioning". If they're really after GR, he himself visited US few weeks ago and could have been thoroughly interrogated. They do not want anything more than a mere hype on SF.
They want MR/GR to fear their own general betraying them, hence to build a prejudice of a traitor on him, which may further taint their relationship.
Regardless of whatever the outcome of the "questioning" is, it can be interpreted as if "SF betrayed MR/GR". US can add a bit of spice into it diplomatically. SF will be quite unable to stop the media hype that may be created out of the process. And it is solely depending on how MR/GR interprets it.
If we see the positive side of it, it may really bundle them together as their true challenge is the same and the enemy is the same. But IMHO. this hype is only gonna make things worse, and make things bad for all three of them.
Overall target can be a PE between MR, RW, and SF, which is the only way how RW can gain power democratically. This means that US believes that it shud play a little diplomatic game in SL internal affairs hence affecting a regime change here. US has been quite successful in doing so elsewhere, by whatever means, so MR/GR/SF shud not only worry for conspirator tricks, but also their own lives. We shud know that if they really want, US is still capable of achieving such goals.
Moshe;
Agree about your idea of EI/Col deciding the hero but disagree about 13+. A solution [for the non-existent problem] will HAVE TO be given [note capitals] and it is LIKELY TO be named as 13+. Even EI/Col can be a part of it. It depends on what they pen in their "solution". And this is why I feel really uneasy when MR is loosing his patriots, and treating them in a real bad way while hugging the enemies of our nation, separatists, lunatics, socialists, pussy-cat lobbyists and crooks - simply potential paahara balu list members. Seeing the interest that US has in articulating this, and the kinda sneaky bitch they've stationed in SL, I see that EI/Col is hardly a possibility if at all.
Adding a small thing to my post;
Us/Blake was particularly uneasy of teh appointment of SF as army commander few yrs ago, and they met with MR in order to change it. But MR said that it is an internal matter not open for any discussion with IC and chased them away.
It simply tells you how deep-rooted the dislike of the union MR/GR/SF by them. They are still battling their war, with a little trick always up in their sleeve. Bitch Butenis must be busy at work n getting them thruough.
LT,
no, a sinhala centric solution is not a solution at all.
it MUST be multiethnic.
agree with the rest.
1. we need a person capable of arranging the POLITICAL-DEFENCE balance right to do it.
i would say janaka perera was the best when he was serving in the army.
2. the large SLDF build-up in the north is a sure starting point which means a strategic military foresight essential for the matter.
3. EVERYTHING in the north must be assessed for its defence relevance.
unfortunately this got to be done bcos of the HIGH tendency of repeat violence, closeness to the CRAZY tamil madu, history of RACISM in politics in the north, lack of ethnic integration.
only a defence guy can do it. or an understanding politician.
i don't blindly believe in MR or SF for FUTURE plans.
MR has done very little for MERC so far.
SF has done very little in his CDS position so far.
i want MERC done in north ASAP. US, EU, japan, etc. are willing to help. they have no tamil homelands madness.
SK,
Usual theory of conspiracy and making a mountain out of a molehill is a sure sign of a drunken writer. If you let your imagination run havoc like this you can set Hillary against Obama too.
K @ K
sujeewa,
no, mate.
US has not gone against it. in fact USAID helped us do it in a smaller scale in the east.
EU, etc. have not objected to it.
they like if ppl of all races live together. even if they want our problems to continue, they cannot openly disapprove MERC of north east bcos it is highly valued in their countries.
this is ONE area we can make use of US, EU for our benefit.
[They want MR/GR to fear their own general betraying them, hence to build a prejudice of a traitor on him, which may further taint their relationship.]
SF is new rat for these Capos - MR and GR.
from toiletnet,
"I am confident that at some point of time India will come to realize that the only strategic leverage it has against the Chinese-Sri Lankan combine in the Indian Ocean is the Indo-Tamil combination,”
this is true. provided the cost < benefit.
if tamil madu is going to join tamil elam, then india will be in deeper shit. unfortunately it looked very likely.
the converse is also true.
for SL to be unitary & united, indian federal influence has to be matched with chinese presence. then india backs down.
e.g. kashmir
e.g. arunachel pradesh
e.g. tibet
e.g. burma
e.g. 1962
india avoids messing up with chinese interests AT ALL COSTS.
this is the reality.
also india has lost all the friends in the region to china. (paki, bangla, burma, thailand, indonesia). SL is the only friend left.
can india afford to lose SL as well by doing BS???
i don't think so.
india should husband tamil madu, while SL will look after tamil elam.
one is marital sex while the other genital-o-cide!!!!
/Tamil Eelam not a lost cause: Fr. Jegath Gaspar
[TamilNet, Tuesday, 03 November 2009, 01:14 GMT]
“I don't think Tamil Eelam is a lost cause. If there was any point of time in history that Eelam was a possibility, I think it is now. Tamils all over the world are more determined than ever,” says Fr. Jegath Gaspar Raj, Chennai based Catholic priest and international broadcast journalist in an interview to TamilNet Sunday./
Not lost (Never exist either!).. it is now.. right now.. I always like jokes in tamil movies more than ones in sinhala movies..
Reminds me some of my friends.. still waiting for socalist revolution and working class rule or some thing like that.. They also say the same.. its now.. HA HA
Sinhala-Centric solution (Because Happy Sinhalese will create Happy Sri Lanka for everyone):
1) Elections should be controlled by majority of Sinhalese. Minority ability to change governments hurt Sinhalese the most even though they are the majority.
2) There can't be predominantly minority areas in NE Sri Lanka.
3) We should strive for a multicultural platform if 1 and 2 are satisfied.
Ninja
I fully agree.
I don't think Tamil Eelam is a lost cause since Prabhakaran is not dead.
The lost cause is KP - the traitor who defected to SLG.
Moshey
[its 2 years to yesterday since SLAF heroes burried that cripple tamilchelvam (smiling ASS-ASS-in).
very strange toiletnet is silent about it???]
Yes. That's because the late fat, black, oily, smelly Pig was the one who supplied intel (via minions to the TMVP) about the Smiling Barber's creep-in at that bunker that day.
OaO Asithri
- The victory of the east was quickly followed with election. If people there were allowed to wander without hope and political will, it would have been easy for violence to return.
- Russion President Putin after crushing Chechniyan separatists quickly follow on with political solution.
These are just two instances at micro and macro level examples of best practice.
There are opposites too. Pres Bush invaded Iraq, leaves the entire country in a political vacuum for too long. No need to explain the mistake there.
Then again SL war fininshed but no quick follow up with addressing political and structural fixes that there is obviously needed. The impasse is leaving not only Tamils disillusioned but many Sinhalese wondering whether there is going to be a change now that terrorism is over.
There are few morons calling themselves "patriots" even here day in day out spewing hatred. I am beginning to suspect whether these mother fuckers are truly Sinhalese who want the Sinhalese to succeed or some eelam lunatic who is running a sophisticated scam to make sure sinhalese fail after a bitter struggle.
Building roads and bridges only make few happy and the euphoria will not last long. Many want higher level changes things such as good governance.
The Tamils have lost badly. If the country does not now offer hand of friendship, the harassing by Tamil diapora and the mother fuckers in Tamil Nadu will never end. Can we manage it somehow? Of course, but not without losing our own quality of life.
There is still tension and unease even though the war ended months ago. What is de-stabalising sri lanka now is not some external enemy but the Rajapsake regime that just have no clue how to adjust to the new reality.
PaanHingana
[i will use by franchise availabel to me to vote this toxic presdient out for good i hope in the next election]
Wow! That kind of statement makes our knee-caps rattle with fear!
ha ha ha...hey RW=LTTE hutthigey putha...umbey ammata hukamuda ada rata?
What a loser! With all the track record of Ponna RW's CFA - and how it cost over 5,000 additional lives of our boys to undo - this mommafucker tries to come here and convince us of the virtues of RW bitch!!!
Sounds like a pukk-kolla to that time Norwegian NGOs!!!
Paraya!!!
OaO Asithri
PaanHingana
No, there is no talk of federalism I agree from your RW ponnaya...as this time he has indicated he will go for the ISGA rightaway, which is the stepping stone for "thamileelam"...this RW cocksucker was on the verge of giving it in 2004 when CBK with the help of the JVP kicked his arse out.
No, he has not forgotten that "unfinished" work and every indication points to him moving in that direction in 48 hours after he wins the PE.
OaO Asithri
LT,
ok, we have to agree to disagree.
i don't agree on anything SINHALA-centric (other than cultural matters). it reminds me TAMIL-centric thinking.
but i must admit that sinhala is a very small ethnic group and must be protected.
if goes extinct, the whole universe will lose this unique race, culture, language, etc. and the particular form of buddhism.
astry, scared dadda going to lose his job?
panhinda,
oh no!
after invading iraq, GWB gave the BEST political solution - democracy to an autocratic country.
after invading afghanistan, GWB gave the BEST political solution - democracy to an autocratic country.
after invading germany in 1945, US and russia gave two political solutions - berlin wall.
after invading korea in 1955, US and russia gave two political solutions - the north and the south.
after invading vietnam, US, etc. tried HARD to give a political solution but failed!!!
a political solution must advance the national defence/development/integration plan, not reverse it.
east is a success story.
if you don't believe me, look at the roads, bridges, schools, hospitals, farms, etc, etc. coming up.
buddy moshe,
i infact plagiarised that part. that was by dayan jayatileke. so really you are arguring with dayan there. i have copied the original below. the question is being asked from dj.
Q. What is your vision for Sri Lanka? What advise you can give to each of the communities in Sri Lanka?
A: To the Sinhalese I would say we have achieved a great military victory of which we can be proud as a people. Our military-men have proved themselves contemporary Asia’s Masters of War. We must now be wise and prudent. We must not win the war and lose the peace. The USSR that Hitler’s best divisions could not defeat, and which broke the backbone of the Nazi army, fell without a shot being fired. That can happen if we lose the “legitimacy war”, the war to secure the moral high ground. There is no longer an enemy army to keep pointing to. The world is watching us without a Prabhakaran standing in between. Most countries of the world supported us to finish off Prabhakaran and the Tigers; not the Tamils. They will not stand with us if it seems we are bullying or oppressing the Tamil minority. We are no longer the underdogs; the Tamils are, especially the IDPs. We are being judged by how humanely we treat them. Our decision makers have a choice: are we going be like President Putin or President Bush? President Putin, a tough leader, smashed the Chechen separatist terrorist army, but quickly followed it up with a political process and wide local autonomy for Chechnya, which Moscow has stabilized through a local ally native to the area; not by large scale Russian military occupation, still less efforts at “Russification”. George Bush however won the war in Iraq but created a quagmire by not following it up with a successful political project. If we try to hold down the Tamils, they will pull us down too, and we shall both lose. We cannot force the Tamils to abandon their 70 years long effort to find some autonomous political space at the periphery. The wisest thing is to speedily implement the 13th amendment, before the island presents a picture of two utterly alienated communities, dead-locking each other.
As for the Tamils, my advice is to learn the lessons of triple, successive historic failures: federalist agitation, secessionist war, efforts at international intervention. None of these worked. A major war, a Thirty Years War has been decisively lost and there is no going home again to the old slogans. These slogans such as “internal self-determination” and “federalism” can be uttered but they will be ignored, while “facts are created on the ground”, altering existential realities. Far more prudent to seek the full implementation of the 13th amendment for which there is regional and international acceptance as well as a commitment by the President. Anything beyond that will lead to an endlessly repetitious reinvention of the wheel.
Time to return the sldgehammer to the tool box and call it a day...
Looks like Tamil racist whores are busy giving each other fellatio!
Good night patriots...do not let these whore-dogs try to hoodwink you of RW ponna's vitues! The implications of that dog winning the PE to me are worse than anything we have seen so far in the way of setbacks or debacles involving our Forces!
:)) :)) :))
OaO Asithri
panhinda,
tamil madu antics and tamil diaspora bullshit cannot destabilise SL.
only tamils (or some of them) in the north east can do it (if they want to).
but, their relevance has fallen from 50% to 3.75% now. they no longer can pursue the 1949 tamil kingdom.
1924 - 50%-50% representation of sinhala and tamil (and others).
1948 - muslims and upcountry tamils left them. the % fell down to 13%
1983-2009 - 6.5% migrated and the % fell to 6.5%
1983-2009 - half of them came to colombo and stopped voting for TAMIL RACISTS (problem solved for them).
2009 - only 3.75% are tamils from the north east.
we should not desert them. we should do multiethnic colonisation. then they too become like colombo tamils who rejected
ACTC
ITAK
TNA
TULF
PLOTE
TMVP
TELO
ADMK
AIADMK
so the political solution must also be proportionate to 3.75% not to 50%.
moshe,
/*
we should not desert them. we should do multiethnic colonisation. then they too become like colombo tamils who rejected
*/
multi-ethnic mixing must happen on friendly terms. it requires political and economic measures. it much harder and need a lot of perseverance and patience. however, its the longer term sustainable solution.
you cannot keep or give a perception of oppression of tamils. this is not the way forward. a failed and oppressed minority is not only a danger to national securtiy but also will not be productive people that can help in rebuilding of this country.
panhinda,
need not be on friendly terms. now i don't mean adversarial terms. no! indifferent terms would be just fine.
although ppl are reasonably integrated in colombo, london, toronto,etc. MOST tamils don't much interact with others than in work. that's fine. that is sufficient for a start.
moshe,
/*
MOST tamils don't much interact with others than in work.
*/
its probably a combination of introvertness, language barrier, wanting to feel secure in their own enviorenmtn and other cultural traits that govern this.
there are experts who study human behaviour etc and come up with better win-win soluions. what we need is a sophisticated approch that will gradually and non-aggressively re-intergrate people.
panhinda,
that is the human level of EI.
but for that we should have physical EI ready otherwise there is no one to integrate with!!!!
the important thing is to change the monoethnic nature of the north. ppl can decide the level of interactions they want.
so the re-colonization process can start ASAP. the human element can follow. the human element should not be forced.
once the north is not substantially tamil monoethnic, we have solved the problem. of course tamil elam will live in the hearts of SL tamils FOREVER. no problem. they are entitled to it. only thing ----> not in our country!!!!
shitler humiliated!!
children studying well in "concentration camps".
illiteracy genocide!!!
all this happening after that school dropout thalaivar died and he couldn't abduct children for his baby brgade.
"Student Ganeshalingam Anithya from Mullaitivu who now lives and studies at a relief village in Thandikulam, has won first place in the World Habitat Day Junior All Island Tamil Essay Competition, while Parimekala Abhilash from Mankulam and is now living at the Tharapuram IDP village in Vavuniya has won first place in the senior section of this competition."
@ Bhairav,
// SF is new rat for these Capos - MR and GR //
You lot is unbelievable; Clutching at any straw which is floating around to keep nose above the water or hoping to find alternative track to ezham.
Forget the past and get on with your life stupid. Ezahm was always a dream and now it is gone forever.
Tamils may be smart but as long as moda bandas live and kicking in SL; ezham is only a dream.
K @ K
Panhinda/Moshe;
Re: Ethnic Integration aka recolonization aka Uthuru Wasanthaya
Wanni has lots of land that can be irrigated, provided they have consistent water supply. What they need is a way to collect and store the rain water that overwhelm them once a year. If we can build sufficient amount of reservoirs [note they're quite economical] we will be able to make Wanni the granary of SL. It is once tried and proven project and there is no reason why it is not feasible.
If this comes into act, what will be the number one hurdle? That is the lesser number of people in Wanni.
What should GOSL do? They shud give those land plots to WHOEVER can cultivate there. It shud happen at national level and there shouldn't be racial or any other margins. Govt has a great role in providing the basics for settlers, and making sure they are mixed in such a way that they need each other's solidarity.
This sample of nation not only involves ppl in south but also ppl in Jaffna and East. It opens hearts of one another.
Why would it not be feasible? Why would it be a bad action? Why would one call it a Sinhala-centric solution [if ever]?
You can use any name for it. But My choice is to call it "Uthuru Wasanthaya" as that real is it.
What lags it could be the anti-SL diaspora, yet A-S-diaspora cannot oppose it as in that case they ought to come back and fill the population vacuum, as SL's economic development, cannot be hindered by anyone.
If we start right now, in 5 yrs we will have a prosperous and peaceful North in solidarity like never before.
I would like to know what is wrong in this plan.
The Fonseka incident does highlight a salient point.
Glorious Bandastan is a country where the Chief of Defence Staff (a former Commander of the Army) needs a US Green Card and the Secretary of Defence (a brother of the President) needs duel citizenship.
Must be paradise, this Bandastan of theirs.
And they are willing to face whatever "interview" necessary to ensure their families can live outside of Bandastan.
Will Fonseka protest against his interview request by throwing the US Green Card at the faces of American authorities? Will Gotha relinquish US citizenship in protest of the "unwarranted" war crimes enquiry?
Lol! Don't think so.
When I see the President's brother, the Defence Secretary, clinging on to duel citizenship, despite the humiliation of the past few days, I know, that in the game of destroying Bandastan, we've made tangible progress.
Once a terrorist, for ever so: Kidnapping pussycat gang in Malaysia
Asylum Seeker, hidden Pussycat: immigrants use vessels that transported explosives for pussycats
Three NGO lords have provided false info to "Oh Blake". Jay, didn't you visit Mr Blake??
FIJI RECALLS DIPLOMATS OVER AUS/NZ TRANSIT VISA BAN SRI LANKAN JUDGES
Commodore Josaia Voreqe Bainimarama
Prime Minister and Minister for Finance, National Planning, Public Service, Peoples’ Charter for Change and Progress, Information, Sugar, Indigenous Affairs and Multi-Ethnic Affairs and Provincial Development
MOI Conference Room
Tuesday 3rd November, 2009
GOVERNMENT BUILDINGS
1800 Hours
Ladies and Gentlemen
The Chief Justice has already highlighted the interference into our Judiciary, the Fijian Judiciary by the governments of Australia and New Zealand
It is a matter of great shame that Madame Justice Anjala Wati a respected member of our High Court bench was harassed and humiliated by the New Zealand High Commission in Fiji when she applied for a visa on medical grounds to take her baby son to New Zealand.
In fact had the Attorney General not highlighted the matter in the media she would not have been granted a visa.
In addition to this shameful incident the Sri Lankan judges who have been appointed to serve in the Fijian judiciary were told that they would not be able to travel through and to Australia because they had taken these positions.
Again when this matter was highlighted in the media by the Chief Justice there was frenzied denial that visas had been refused by the Australian government.
However, we now know that one of these Sri Lankan judges had the foresight to tape the conversation in which she was informed by the Australian official in Colombo that travel sanctions would apply because she had taken the position in the Fijian judiciary.
The culmination of these incidents displays a consolidated effort to attack Fiji’s independent judiciary. It also shows that the Australian and New Zealand Governments have been dishonest and untruthful over the matter of travel ban for judges.
In the circumstances it is not surprising that the Chief justice took the rather unusual step of holding a press conference on Sunday 1st November.
This morning he had a meeting with me.
In that meeting the Chief Justice reiterated his position that the interference by Australian and New Zealand governments in our judiciary undermines the judiciary.
The Chief Justice told me that this policy of the Australian and New Zealand governments stops him from nominating credible, well qualified individuals to serve on the Bench.
He also highlighted the fact that such interference is unheard of in particular in the absence of evidence that members of the judiciary are breaching any laws, either internationally or in Fiji.
If anything, the brave men and women who have joined our judiciary are contributing to the enforcement of the rule of law. They have shown fortitude and a commitment to the law.
Cotd
Ladies and Gentlemen, following the meeting with the Chief Justice, given the seriousness of the matter at hand, I visited His Excellency the Vice President, who will be sworn in on Thursday as our 4th President.
I briefed the Vice President of my meeting with the Chief Justice.
We discussed the impact of the Australian and New Zealand governments’ position in relation to members of our Judiciary.
We discussed the importance of our national interest to maintain an independent Judiciary with credible and well qualified judicial officers.
We also discussed and agreed that the mandate given to my Government by the former President which includes a reformist and modernizing agenda, as supplemented by the People’s Charter for Change, must be implemented.
Indeed, we agreed that we cannot be deterred from this path.
We also discussed that we must engage with the international community and inform them, and indeed, partner with them to take Fiji forward.
We discussed the need to have an equitable and just society based on common and equal citizenry and an economy which is liberalized, investor friendly and which improves the living standards of all Fijians.
I am this evening holding this press conference to inform the public of Fiji about these events since it has an enormous impact on our country, on all our people as it affects our day to day living.
I am, to be candid, baffled by the position taken by the Australian and New Zealand governments.
On one hand they are our largest trading partners; they are members of the Pacific Islands Forum; 60% of our tourists come from these countries and their numbers are growing on a daily basis; majority of our people who have migrated have gone to these countries; we have studied, worked and holidayed the most in these countries.
They claim to be our friends yet on the other hand they fail to recognize the efforts that we are making in being a good international citizen; they fail to understand that we are creating a country that will be based on equal and common citizenry, a country of modern laws, a country which will have true democracy.
Only today Cabinet approved a new Crimes Decree, a new Criminal Procedure Decree and a new Sentencing and Penalties Decree that will make us compliant with CEDAW, with international standards on human trafficking and with the Rome Statute.
We have ratified the United Nations Convention Against Corruption (UNCAC); we have introduced new laws and strengthened existing laws in relation to corruption and bribery; we have introduced Domestic Violence laws; given protection to our children, paving the way for compliance with the Convention on the Rights of the Child.
We have consistently said that we want to engage with our neighbours and indeed all our international and multi-lateral partners. We have also left the door open for bi-lateral engagements.
My focus is not disengagement rather it is engagement. My focus is on the future not the past.
My focus is to deal with ills of the past to create a better future.
My focus means that in my engagements I am upfront, candid and honest.
That is why I cannot understand why Australia and New Zealand are engaged in a dishonest and untruthful strategy to undermine our judiciary, our independent institutions and our economy.
I can accept their ban on me and my senior officers given the personalization of matters. But why punish those individuals both Fijians and non-Fijians who join the Judiciary?; those Fijians from the private sector who want to contribute to a better, progressive and modern Fiji by way of joining Boards of Statutory Organizations - even the Fiji National Provident Fund is targeted.
Ladies and Gentlemen, this is not only a short sighted policy but it constitutes an attempt to sabotage national building, economy strengthening and the modernizing efforts.
When the Rudd and Key Governments came to power, I believed that we would encounter enlightened thinking and policies based on friendship and understanding. Unfortunately, it has not happened.
Instead all we have had is their heads of missions refusing to engage with government and engaging only with those Fijians who have a political interest in holding Fiji back.
They mis-inform Canberra and Wellington and wage a negative campaign against the Government and people of Fiji.
By contrast the ordinary men and women and companies of Australia and New Zealand continue to come to our shores, they continue to do business in Fiji, and they continue to give us their good wishes.
My message to them is - you are most welcome, we value your investment, your visit and your best wishes.
We are a safe destination and the people of Fiji are the most hospitable in the world.
We are also proud of our country and our sovereignty and we believe in living in dignity. Therefore, we should ensure that our sovereignty, our Judiciary and key institutions are allowed to function with independence and integrity.
It is my Government’s duty to ensure that no foreign Government should interfere with such judicial independence and integrity. We must always protect and be proud our sovereignty.
I wish to declare that my Government fully supports the Chief Justice. We will always ensure that his independence and that of his judges remains unassailable.
It is for these reasons that I have told the Ministry of Foreign Affairs to issue communications to the Australian and New Zealand Governments that their respective heads of missions are to be recalled within 24 hours.
I have also informed them that our High Commissioner in Australia is to be recalled, with immediate effect.
Vinaka Vakalevu.
Link
asian tribune website continues attacks on the general
http://asiantribune.com/news/2009/11/03/does-us-use-legal-coercion-gen-fonseka-testify-against-sri-lanka
Janaki,
You seems to be a patriot :)
king kong patriot.
Speaking exclusively to TIMES NOW, Sri Lankan cabinet Minister Douglas Devananda has said that the Government's stand could differ from chief of defence staff General Sarath Fonseka's statements.
Devananda claims that for political reasons, General Fonseka could talk about things that actually never happened. The Minister says that Fonseka's statements could differ from the government's stand because opposition parties are trying to get him to join politics.
He said, "He (Fonseka) is trying to enroll in politics, so he may say something different from what actually happened. Opposition parties in Sri Lanka are trying to bring him into politics, maybe as a third force. That is our government’s stand."
http://www.timesnow.tv/SL-govt-distances-itself-from-war-hero/articleshow/4331175.cms
King Mahinda supporter launch attack on the general
knives are out
hail to the mighty king mahinda
Chanaka said...
hail to the mighty king mahinda
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How dare you call king Rajapakse. Don't disgrace him. He is not a king. He is the reincarnation of Buddha himself.
sorry
hail to the mighty buddha
DefenceWire wrote:
...Our task was to allow things to settle down on their own which has worked. However, recent developments led particularly by a section of the diaspora Sinhalese is a cause of concern for DefenceWire.
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Who gave you this task and who decided to change it for you? I find it odd that you are now worried about Diaspora Sinhalese as well as Diaspora Tamils... I guess the Country really isn't all "Sri Lankans" now is it?
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DefenceWire wrote:
DefenceWire team's stance up to now has been to avoid commenting on this dispute knowing fully well the capacity of both the present government and SF to come to a compromise on:
1. The direction the Sri Lankan Military will take
2. The direction General Fonseka would have to go
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So now you are telling us the direction the General will have to go? Have you told him because he seems to be looking at a number of other options.
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DefenceWire wrote:
...These groups, particularly those civilians involved who are not insiders or have little inside information can or will not understand the discipline of a professional soldier to take what he wants and to relinquish duty when required sans insubordination.
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That is poorly worded and specious nonsense... who the hell are you to say what somebody can or cannot understand?
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DefenceWire wrote:
The Sri Lanka Army/Military is a modern Army/Military positioned within a democratic society. The professional soldiers serving in it will know when to let go. By asking them to perform a larger role based solely on selfish motives of individuals in the periphery, they may destroy that soldier and even themselves and their reputation.
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You have a loose definition of democracy. The present government has gone out of it's way to take freedoms away from its people... just ask a quarter-million IDPs in the North.
Could you please explain how you know that Professional soldiers will know when to let go? Again, how can you speak in such blanket terms for so many individuals... the answer is you can't.
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DefenceWire wrote:
The Sri Lankan Military and its leaders are now hailed the world over for their victorious feat. Their role in bringing peace to the country through military means will be remembered for decades to come as the ultimate example of a trained military executing its sacred task flawlessly from start to finish.
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I gather you boys don't get out of the country much to actually find out what the rest of the world really thinks. To suggest the GoSL and its military enjoy a reputation for flawless execution is far removed the truth.
Yes, the majority of nations are happy to see the LTTE thugs wiped out and the conflict brought to an end but few folks see this as a "flawless" endeavor... in fact few people outside Sri Lanka believe the GoSL propaganda that not a single civilian was harmed by GoSL troops.
You guys are starting to read like PuligalToday read a year ago when their heads were so far up the asses of their criminal leadership they refused to consider even common sense.
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DefenceWire wrote:
DefenceWire, as an impartial site whose work you have witnessed for over 3 years now wish to appeal to our readers to refrain from joining or supporting either 'camps' and to allow the professional soldier and professional politicians to resolve potentially resolvable issues mentioned above.
Thank you
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If you are impartial I am the World's finest fast bowler.
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..hic..
brap! brap!
Bitch can't speak a word of Sinhala
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Zw6hviySQg
Mouth only good for royal blow jobs.
That is why she is our Councillor.
mei wesi boru kiyanne meki dumindage kare nagala inna phototh thiyenawa, ammage katata duwage
Where are Peter and Bhairav,
We need them here when all the blog terrorists Jay Haan, Dis Information, and Chuannkkam converge with all anti Sri Lankan garbage, specially when Jay gets hiccups after practicing the dance too hard. Join the dance Peter and Bhairav, and make it the best monkey/donkey dance.
Jaanaki...,
You like red Cap?
B#1,
"Jaanaki...,
You like red Cap?"
Red is said to be the most common color females use to attract the males in the mating rituals. Being a subject of the provisional transsexual government of Tamil Eelam, she like that color a lot.
DefenceWire,
Please don't waste your time with this LTTE terrorist scummy called Dis Information. he is a liberal art graduate from Vanni College of Terrorist Art who thinks that asking stupid question will make his shine. Please forgive this monkey.
SamP,
lol :)
Then I will have to change the lyrics as "sivappu thaan enakku pidiththa kalaru..." and try to get a chance to fcuk this chanaka or sorry jaanaki amma .. :) uhmm ..
king mahinda has informed the general not to go to the meeting tomorrow
If he goes he is 'Judas, Brutus and both'.
oh sorry. He is already one of 'Judas, Brutus or both' according to Asian Tribune whore 'Daya Gamage'
B#1,
Please add this Manujula who recently changed her name to Maha Raja(paksa) to that list. It all started with the Provisional Transsexual Government of TE. Ranil also wants a piece of that.
hemantha,
DG jumped his guns early.
Royal English sentence:
Furthermore will there be seeds of dissent sown against him over his recent visit to the US where the rumours are rife that the US authorities have tried to grill him over Armed Forces Human Rights Violations which have neither been confirmed, assented nor denied by those involved despite disgruntled sabre rattling by the Sri lLnkan authorities with the US Foreign Office and Diplomatic Representation where the only salient truth remains that the the Lieut. General has conducted himself with class and dignity and maintained his own silence about many speculations relative to his future moves which are currently no more than speculative rhetoric and consequently it seems only fair to give the noble leader some respite and credibility towards his own perceived responsibility who almost (but not quite!) singlehandedly manouvred the nation’s oppression by ruthless terrorists and put the rest of the theorising on the backburner until the air clears!
http://www.lankaweb.com/news/items/2009/11/03/why-the-media-hype-about-a-sarath-fonseka-military-dictatorship-is-more-speculative-than-links-to-reality/
Sam,
They are going to ruin the character of that man who sacrificed so much for the country. If he does something terribly wrong I would say 'ok he deserves it'. So far he has not done anything wrong. He is just responding to the situation as correctly as possible.
People who are acting as character assassins (due to political or other reasons) should know one thing. There actions may drastically change the way people think of their leaders and may change political landscape of the country. SF may not have to do anything. His opponents actions (preempted) would be just sufficient for things to start (Chanaka. You better take note of this. I am not the only one who thinks this way)
Maharajah Rajapaksam aka Manjulam Jeevanandam,
We don't worship white masters like you do. Therefore, we could care less about your English skills. However, we live in a country where the majority speaks Sinhahala. Can you speak and write Sinhala in manner a common Sri Lankan can understand?
I am royalty.
I have green card like all members of royal household.
Hemantha,
I totally agree with you. Everybody jumping their guns is not going to help our country. I was very surprised to see DG jumping so quick for the fact that SF does not know a lot about US system. Anyway, we have only 24 hrs left to see the donkey dance of monkeys. Enjoy while it lasts.
Maharajah Rajapaksam aka Manjulam Jeevanandam,
Is sending SMS text an absolute need for you like food and water? Why are you not content with 10 ring tones in your mobile when your whit masters are?
Just like the blog scum Jay, Manujulam, Dis Information converged, the top scum of Sri Lanka has converged today. I hope that KJ will not contaminate his hands t0o much in this dirty association.
Yep. KJ may be feeling really odd being among these clowns.
curse those who try to create/make use of rifts between SF and GR. that is the basis of any discussion on the subject.
"we should not say anything that MAY be CONSTRUED as a violation of IHL, HR, etc."
this is another such crap attempt to create trouble.
"Fonseka demands summary justice for LTTE cadres
[TamilNet, Tuesday, 03 November 2009, 11:45 GMT]
"We must deploy enough troops to provide security for these [resettled] areas. We must in these areas, this virus, there are still 1000’s of terrorists in IDP camps. We must identify these terrorist and destroy them." or arrest them.....
we have to expect creative interpretation of what was said by MFs.
that's the fcuking reason why we should guard our words.
these things are interpreted to mean the existene of unfound evidence of crimes
AND
gives an idea of the INTENTION which is also important in framing charges.
the US report CLEARLY says they have no evidence of the INTENTION and it is difficult to prove.
"we should not say anything that MAY be CONSTRUED as a violation of IHL, HR, etc."
Tamil Ealam lovers and well wishers are scattered around the world. Most of them are striving hard to salvage what is remaining of late LTTE. Who they most feared in Sri Lanka is General Sarath Fonseka. They are not worried about MR or GR that much. That is why these clowns are trying hard to destroy him. Unfortunately some of our people are also working for them on self vested interests.
Most of our politicians do not have the best interest of the nation in their hearts. They are aiming for short term personal gains by destroying rivals and opponents. Sri Lankans should get rid of these politico’s as soon as possible because they are even dangerous than LTTE to our mother land.
K @ K
SL government has asked SF to not to go for the interview. That means he is now between the 'devil and the deep blue sea'.
If he doesn't go to the interview he will loose his GC (will be sent back) and he will be under the mercy of SL government leadership.
If he goes (even if he doesn't divulge anything unnecessary, which he doesn't have to) he will be shamed and ridiculed. (Now days every Dick and Harry like to have a poke at him).
Nobody would envy the position he is in right now. But he can be happy. He finished his job.
I just read the 'Divaina' editorial.
May be SF is already screwed. Well done Chanaka. Likes of you have done a great job.
Didn't I say weeks back that "SF has no chance against Politicians".
ponnayas have formed the ponna front yesterday.
1. ranil
2. mong-gal
3. pissa
4. hack-him
its the same losers once again.
interestingly that sinhala LTTE sakkiliya who also invited SF to become their party candidate is also in the homo alliance.
and that explains why our fonseka2010 was absent from action YESTERDAY!!
2010 was inactive from all his worplaces yesterday!!
wow!
what a coincidence!!
from island.lk
an arserape of sakkiliyas. shoot this messenger!!
"If Gotabhaya is really a US citizen, instead of trying to harass him, the US government should send him a special invitation and give him a hero's welcome by rolling out the red carpet. For, he is the only American to have led a successful war for the past so many decades!"
VERY WELL SAID!
Hemantha,
Right now, it is in the hands of General Fonseka. He arrived in US with diplomatic privileges as an official of GOSL. They can use cancellation of the GC as a trump card. However, it does not mean anything to his kids since they are already GC holders not dependent on General Fonseka. He may not get a chance to comeback to US as a GC holder but his children can travel back and forth. After all, what can he do in US with his SL retirement. He may have to work somewhere in some capacity to survive. Most certainly the Obama administration will not give him any respectable position. In Sri Lanka, irrespective of politicians, he is a hero. As I understand, US is trying hard to find some evidence for war crimes that never happened. Their own report indicated nothing substantial other than Jay Pina's zero credible words. Such evidence will get thrown out in no time if it ever makes to a trial. However, if they can get somebody credible like General Fonseka to testify, it may go somewhere. So these bastards in USA is trying really hard to create a credible witness for bogus war crimes by coercion. For you and me, MR and UPFA are different from our motherland. We are thankful to MR for saving our motherland but it is the motherland we love so much, no politicians. I don't think that General Fonseka is any different than us. Therefore, I am hard pressed to believe that General Fonseka will trade our motherland for a GC that may not worth anything.
@ Sam,
What I meant; when I said “get rid of bad rubbish” (GROBR) from Sri Lankan political system is to exercise power vested on people by democratic means. If majority of Sri Lankans could reject corrupted and power hungry politicos like RW and his henchmen’s in the next election that will be fine by me. However, if MR tried to discard general Fonseka by dirty means as some suggests here then MR is also should be thrown out to the rubbish bin.
I am sure that general will overcome present problems without a scratch but the question is whether MR and GR could do the same. If MR is to handle the situation to discredit the general for his own gain; then MR is digging his own grave.
K @ K
Guys, Sri Lanka's leaders craving for US green card and Citizenship is embarrassing. I felt SF as a national hero until he went to update his Green Card status.
We all know the life can be better in USA. These people have all the power to make the same in Sri Lanka, yet from the back of their mind they are thinking of living in USA. They can afford to that since they are super rich.
What about the average folks?
What kind of message you are sending to poor soldiers who sacrificed their lives to our nation?
Don't protect hypocrites.
sam and other patriots,
2010 crap is none other than sarath manamendra. i'm 75% sure.
bugger was absent yesterday from here and from ALL other places to participate in the HOMO FRONT.
Guys,
I never believed the crap thrown out here by Fonseka 2010. However, I just want to know with concrete evidence that MR is really trying to side line the general on his popularity. We hear lot of speculations but has any one got any evidence or proof that MR and GR plotting against the general?
K @ K
sam,
i'm sure SF is not a sakkiliya to betray sri lanka and his own team members for a green card.
green cards are won by a lottery which cost next to nothing.
he will not do that bcos he doesn't want to be the MOST corrupt and MOST EASILY CORRUPTIBLE.
have no fear.
kk,
no. only speculation. both ways.
MD,
My deductions agree with your comment. General should respect MR and serve the nation as best as he can. Naturally MR will plot to stay in power and solidify his position as the president. General should not interfere with that until MR has proven himself his motives are only self vested. Mr cannot go on as an executive president without showing his true colours after the next election. If he is not protecting the victory against separatists and try to become dynasty builder or even a traitor then the general will become the choice of the nation.
kk,
exactly.
we also need to ensure BEFORE THE ELECTION, that MR is not going do racism.
e.g. 13 amendment which divides the country by racial group
e.g. tamil nadu style federal structures
e.g. power sharing with "tamils"
there is no fcuking country in the world that shares power with "tamils". we should not be the first.
e.g. other racists "solutions" just bcos tamil madu, tamil united liberation front, tamil national aliens, tamil elam makkal viduthalai pulikal, tamil congress, tamils against genocide, tamil organisations 4 the international liberation of elam tamils (TOILET), syndicates hosting international tamils (SHIT), exapatriate committee recognizing elam tamil aspirations (EXCRETA) want them.
Patriots,
Always be vigilant about fakes. There is fake here under my name. In the past she (ID 16329385411754718096) appeared here as:
Kumari
fake Ananda-USA
The confused gender issue is mainly arising from Transsexual Government of Tamil Eelam issue.
Moshe,
given his past LTTE association and attempts to setup bombs to kill innocent civilians in the south, Sarath Manamendra needs to take hike on the banks of Nanthikadal. That way,, he will realize the amount of destruction LTTE brought in.
Apparently Ranil wants to give youth SMS instead of ringing tones. I hope that Sajith will save our nation by getting rid of this doofus.
“KP tortured
Nov 4 (LG) According to a reliable Defence Ministry source LTTE’s former International head Selvarasa Pathmanathan, well known as KP is said to have undergone severe torturing in the hands of the intelligence operatives to extract information from him. The source said KP is held in the Panagoda army camp in the outskirts of Colombo. Uncooperative KP was severely tortured by the Sri Lanka Terrorist Investigation Division (TID) for maintaining silence. more..”
brap! brap!
hehehe....now who would believe this type of anti-SL story? This is all cheap propaganda…..only kids would listen to this type of fairytale.
brap! brap!
hehehe.....
p.s. Peter, like my eyes? You can pee in them if you like. brap! brap!
Peter aka Chanaka aka Manula aka Rajapaksa aka PARA-SAKKILIYA
hehehe….
Ouch! That hurt ah?
GC, Diplomatic passport, citizenship, etc etc. that OaOA maestro whacked you sakkil bitch with up your arse with facts bothered you that much ah?
hehehe…..so, the best you can do is question someone’s loyalty to his/her country just because they have taken GC or citizenship in another country?
hehehe…..I hope OaOA will be here to see the damage he did to you wesa- pullu sappi …..yeah, OaOA pora totally fukked you up by exposing your low intelligence/savvy when you denied SF was in the US on a diplomatic PP!
And that hurt you so much you started bleeding from your anus ah?
Oink! Onik!
hehehe…..
http://www.srilankaguardian.org/2009/11/kp-tortured.html
KP tortured
Tuesday, November 3,
By Our Defence Investigator
(November 04, Colombo, Sri Lanka Guardian)
/The source in the Defence Ministry reflected annoyance that TID officials are exerting excessive violence on KP. Since the medical treatment, KP is said to be facing subtle touring like slapping, arm twisting, ear pulling and finger knuckling in the process of their investigations./
HA HA Tamilnet.tv has another competitor...
Peter aka Chanaka aka Manula aka Rajapaksa aka PARA-SAKKILIYA
Say the word for bucket in Sinhala.
hehehe.....Rules, Rulers, the Ruled, the Ruled Over, etc. etc.
nice concepts ah sakkiliya?
http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5i_R-9j8lx-U_JdZAfA56AJMhczqg
/Canada ties Sri Lanka migrant ship to Tiger rebels
(AFP) – 3 hours ago
VANCOUVER, Canada — Several of a group of 76 Sri Lankan asylum seekers picked up off the Canadian coast last month have ties to the Tamil Tiger rebels and could pose a security risk, officials said Tuesday./
Canada has thousands of similar kind terrorists and whats the big deal taking another 76..? Canada, please keep these terrorists and don't send to SL.
/The vessel had "possibly been used for arms shipments" and the men should continue to be detained "on national security grounds," government officials told the hearing, according to Faber.
Tests showed two of the men detained had explosive residue on their clothes, the officials said./
Its tiger terrorists rights not to wash clothes..
Raja(paksa) aka Peter darling
You love my eyes?
I love yours. Can we look at each other for a long time? I love you so much I will let you pee in my wonderful piercing eyes.
how about it koodhi payale?
hehehe.....fukk this is too much! Such entertainment and it cost $0!
http://www.asianews.it/index.php?l=en&art=16766&size=A
Tamil refugees sent home, but villages are worse than refugee camps
/Batticaloa (AsiaNews) – Refugees in Welighakandiya and Kudumbimalai, near Batticaloa, went back to their villages of origin after years as war refugees, but now “they seem to have returned to a refugee camp or an open air prison,” said Raajan Francis, coordinator for the Praja Abhilasha network, an organisation that helps settle land disputes./
Now what? UN, INGOs, HRW must protest GSL to keep tamiz refugees in much better refugee nazi camps and not to send them to villages..
Reminds me the story of father, son and donkey.. HIK
http://www.nationalpost.com/story.html?id=2174996
The arrival of 76 Sri Lankan Tamils aboard a vessel that some experts believe may be owned by the Tamil Tigers has raised a number of troubling questions. Unlike the 599 Chinese who appeared off the coast of British Columbia 10 years ago, there is every indication the latest arrivals intend to try to stay in Canada permanently.
The Chinese boat people had quite different objectives. They were being smuggled into Canada in order to be smuggled in turn into the United States -- where they planned to work in menial jobs in order to pay off those who had brought them here illegally. It was not in their game plan to get caught by the Canadian authorities. They knew nothing about claiming refugee status when they arrived here and had to be coached by their Canadian lawyers on how to put together tales about how they had been persecuted in China in order to stand a chance of being accepted as refugees.
The 76 new arrivals will need no such instruction. They have almost certainly brought with them carefully prepared stories of how they have suffered, because they are Tamils, at the hands of the mainly Sinhalese government of Sri Lanka. While such claimants have been quite successful at gaining asylum in Canada until now, this group may find the task somewhat more daunting.
For one thing, with the defeat of the Tamil Tigers by government forces earlier this year, no one can claim they are fleeing the fighting. While it is true that large numbers of Tamil civilians are still living in difficult conditions in camps run by the government while it attempts to identify Tamil Tiger operatives hiding in their midst, the situation is gradually returning to normal. When this process is completed, much will still have to be done in terms of national reconciliation and involving Sri Lanka Tamils fully in the political life of the nation.
The suggestion that Tamils are being persecuted as a people in Sri Lanka, however, is nonsense and is a myth propagated by Tamil extremists. The Tigers have, in fact, tried to systematically assassinate moderate leaders in their own community who do not agree with the goal of creating a completely independent Tamil state in Sri Lanka by violent means. The latest victim of their ruthless campaign was the foreign minister of Sri Lanka, Lakshman Kadirgamar, an ethnic Tamil, who was murdered in 2005.
There can be no doubt that Canada has been more than generous to Sri Lankan Tamils seeking asylum. Between 1989 and 2004, for example, we gave refugee status to more than 37,000 such claimants -- far more than to the nationals of any other country. Our largesse is also impressive by international standards; in 2003 we accepted 50% more claims from this source than did all the other countries of the world combined.
Here's one indication of Canadian generosity, and even laxity, in our treatment of refugee claimants. In order to be successful, the claimants have to be able to make the case that they fled their countries of origin because it was not safe to remain there. Yet, in one year alone, 8,600 Sri Lankans with refugee claims pending in Canada applied to the Sri Lankan High Commission in Ottawa for travel documents so they could go back to Sri Lanka for visits.
A further indication that Sri Lanka is not quite as dangerous a place for Tamil refugee claimants as their supporters try to make out is to be found in an internal Citizenship and Immigration Canada communication (obtained through an access to information request by Vancouver lawyer Richard Kurland) which noted that "returnees (to Sri Lanka) are dealt with professionally and, unless there are outstanding criminal warrants, deportees and other returnees are simply returned to the community on arrival after brief and professionally conducted interviews."
Peter aka Chanaka
Why was it reported by "foreign NGOs" (Onik! Onik!) that LTTE thangaatchis were really smelling foul?
I know many of them had their menstrual periods in the FDLs and did not change underwear nor did they wash themselves (lack f water or laziness?)....but fukk, this is real bad for you "superior Tamilian" image right?
How about your Tamil amma? Does she change her pad often? Or, being a frugal Jaffna bitch (and their frugality is a legend I am told), does she change it every week?
Just academic questions dude.....no need to get upset now.....just research.....trying to get material for my thesis on "cleanliness of persecuted minorites".....deeply grateful for any help.
Your darling, FF
The report went on to state that "other countries have successfully returned large numbers of failed asylum seekers, and Sri Lanka is a safe destination for unsuccessful refugee applicants." In the same vein, at an Immigration and Refugee Board (IRB) hearing in 2006, it was pointed out that more than 100 Sri Lankans (failed refugee claimants, and presumably all Tamil) had been sent back to their homeland and none had been mistreated as their lawyers had claimed they would be.
Nor is it surprising that they should choose Canada their destination even though it is about as far from Sri Lanka geographically as one can get. Canada not only has the most generous system of benefits for refugee claimants but has the highest acceptance rates. In the case of Sri Lankan Tamils, last year Canada rejected 2.6% of their applications while other countries had an average rejection rate of 50%.
While the Tigers have run human smuggling operations to raise funds for their terrorist cause by bringing people illegally into Canada, such activities were also aimed at strengthening the ranks of their supporters in this country. The IRB helped out in this regard by giving expedited processing and almost automatic approval to persons considered to be at risk, including "young Tamil males aged 10 to 40 or 45 years from the north and east" of Sri Lanka (i. e., from the area controlled by the Tamil Tigers).
Such a profile, however, just happened to be identical with that of male Tamil Tiger guerrillas, and by the year 2000 the Toronto police Tamil Task Force estimated that Canada's largest city was home to as many as 8,000 members of Tamil terrorist factions, most notably the Tigers.
The result of our largesse in making it so easy for terrorists and their supporters to get into Canada through the refugee system was to be seen in their ability to mobilize large numbers of people to block traffic in Toronto and Ottawa earlier this year in the hopes of getting Canada to pressure the Sri Lankan government into a ceasefire that might have saved Tamil Tiger forces from complete oblivion.
One particular scenario that the Canadian authorities must be wary of is the possibility that this latest group of arrivals is the vanguard of large numbers of Tamil Tigers and their supporters planning to come here with the intention of making Canada the base for their separatist movement and a future insurgency in the wake of their military defeat in Sri Lanka.
In doing so they would be emulating Sikh separatists and extremists who have concentrated much of their activity in Canada after the confrontation between their co-religionists back in India and the central government of that country largely subsided (the Post reported on the phenomenon in "Sikhs still divided after 25 years," on Oct. 28). To achieve this end, Sikh extremists have also made ample use of our refugee system in order to get their supporters into Canada.
- Martin Collacott was the Canadian high commissioner to Sri Lanka when the conflict between the Tamil Tigers and government forces began in earnest in 1983. He lives in Vancouver.
http://www.lankaenews.com/Sinhala/news.php?id=10950
This b!cth doing really great.. This is the kind of we need in our missions..
wow.....the blog is strangely silent......now where did the great Tamil keyboard warriors go to I wonder?
Australia and Indonesia, pls be civilized. Please preserve the rights of these detainees.
Hiks...
Asylum seekers ‘beaten’ in Indonesia
November 3, 2009 10:40 pm
Asylum seekers in Indonesia are routinely beaten and denied clean water and medical care in detention centres paid for in part by Australian taxpayers, a report handed today to Government says.
As the stand-off on the Oceanic Viking wears on, Behind Australian Doors sheds light on the detention conditions potentially faced by 78 Sri Lankans refusing to get off the Australian custom vessels docked off theisland of Bintan.
In Indonesia, it is common to wait two to three years to be determined as a refugee, but with little prospect of third country resettlement, the report, by Australian lawyer and refugee advocate Jessie Taylor, says.
Less than one per cent of the world’s refugees were resettled in third countries in 2008.
“Detainees suffer malnutrition, depression, anxiety, skin diseases, vomiting and diarrhoea, and have been subject to violent beatings by Indonesian authorities,” the report finds. “In funding the processing and housing of asylum seekers in such a manner, Australia is behaving very poorly.”
Ms Taylor visited 11 places of detention in Indonesia in July, and interviewed 250 people.
“Beatings usually occur after escapes from detention facilities, as a ‘punishment’ of remaining detainees for the escape of others,” the report continues.
Among the 2000 people held in prisons, detention centres and compounds across the country, there are refugees once granted temporary protection in Australia, the report says. – (The Age, Australia)
Peter aka Raja(paksa)
Ennoda poola oombuda....un sooththula en poolu....
hehehe.....wannakam!
Now let's see.....
Diplomatic passport or the over used menstrual pad....which is going to win the "Pundey Wrath of the Day" award from Peter aka Chanka anna?
Do we see more attacks on Bandas who took up GC or citizenship?
OR
Do we see a new charge sheet of "corruption" (where X's son-in-law's brother's sister's son's daughter's nephew made $100MM!)
OR
Do we see a new "execution video"
OR
Do we see defecating in public streets in the UK, Canada, Geneva?
The suspense is almost killing me.....yes, another "war-crime" scenario shaping up....
hehehe.....
Paiththiyan Peter said,
When I see the President's brother, the Defence Secretary, clinging on to duel citizenship, despite the humiliation of the past few days, I know, that in the game of destroying Bandastan, we've made tangible progress.
Never mind all the fake refugees leaving their glorious monoethnic homeland to be toilet cleaners in Austreelam and Canadam..At this rate their will be no Kazuthai to form Kazuthanadu..TOO EASY..
"Tamil refugees sent home, but villages are worse than refugee camps"
someone here actually suggested sending IDPs home if the IC is soooo concerned about them going home!!
those who made this BS demand will now go DUMB!! bloody idiots.
half knowledge can be very dangerous.
it would be lovely if some IDPs say that they would like to return to IDP camps or concentration camps or whatever!!
with the monsoon, it will be high fun in the villages.
http://www.lankanewspapers.com/news/2009/11/49598_space.html
UNP's new symbol is there.. I don't know about the rest..
Peter aka Manjula
What's the matter? Having a "mahaboru commemoration" party and sharing a Big Mac?
Oink Boink Toink!
Diyasena
"Never mind all the fake refugees leaving their glorious monoethnic homeland to be toilet cleaners in Austreelam and Canada.."
hehehe.....not to mention some motherfukkers went overboard thinking they were in Kazuthanadu and ended up in Pacific Sharks' belly!
hehehehe.....I love it....as much as I love my eyes.
ninja,
what is the new UNP symbol???
can't open the link.
SK
"Asylum seekers in Indonesia are routinely beaten and denied clean water and medical care in detention centres paid for in part by Australian taxpayers, a report handed today to Government says."
wow! Now where is NYHRW/AI when we need them?
Ha, forget it, I forgot here the culpable party would be Aussies and that aint gonna happen.....ha, yes these whiteys in the US, UK, Australia, EU, never commit any human rights violations....the maximum they do is utter white lies.
hehehehe
"what is the new UNP symbol???"
A tiger sodomizing an elephant?
hehehehe
"I know, that in the game of destroying Bandastan, we've made tangible progress"
hehehe.....
breadcrumbs and mangy dogs.
Canada ties Sri Lanka migrant ship to Tiger rebels
(AFP) – 4 hours ago
VANCOUVER, Canada — Several of a group of 76 Sri Lankan asylum seekers picked up off the Canadian coast last month have ties to the Tamil Tiger rebels and could pose a security risk, officials said Tuesday.
The Canadian government told an immigration hearing that the "Ocean Lady" freighter used to transport the migrants has been linked to the Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam (LTTE), panel spokeswoman Paula Faber told AFP.
The vessel had "possibly been used for arms shipments" and the men should continue to be detained "on national security grounds," government officials told the hearing, according to Faber.
Tests showed two of the men detained had explosive residue on their clothes, the officials said
http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5i_R-9j8lx-U_JdZAfA56AJMhczqg
hehehehe.....them's the breaks!!!!
As for "two of the men detained had explosive residue on their clothes".....now ain't this ample proof that these cocksuckers were into anal sex with mortar shells?
Oinik! Boink! Toink!
Green Monkeys and Chinkalam Tigers,
What a great news. After many years of torturing by Maha Raja with ring tone, Ranil Wickramadonkey the futuristic leader comes to your rescue with SMS text. Rejoice, rejoice, rejoice.
Looks like we just need to hold on for just 1-3 years..NObama and Hilarious Clitoris will have their hands full..The congress and senate will be back with Republicans in 2012, hopefully the white house too..
http://edition.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/11/03/2009.elections/index.html
Guys, make sure your identities are safe and if there is a threat, please immediately inform the defence authorities and the press complaints commission
Link
Above all, know that Dailymirror is fast becoming a safe heaven for displaced online Eelam refugees, who have been booted out of LNP and DW thanks to the constant vigilance by patriots.
There's no doubt DM is widely read, both locally and overseas and by foreigners. Since DM (along with Lankaguardian) has taken over the duties of TamilNet in terrorist propaganda, the govt and defence ministry should immediately address this unchecked defamation by Dailymirror against Sri Lanka, her govt and its patriotic citizens
Defamation by Dailymirror
Click here for article
Link
[[Sam Perera said...
Guys, Sri Lanka's leaders craving for US green card and Citizenship is embarrassing. I felt SF as a national hero until he went to update his Green Card status....]]
This is a fake arsehole. Since the waters are shaky they can imitate our folks as commenter's position is volatile in current situ.
I was just curious why Sam would say this, so I did an ID check.
[[ Moshe Dyan said...
sam and other patriots,
2010 crap is none other than sarath manamendra. i'm 75% sure.
bugger was absent yesterday from here and from ALL other places to participate in the HOMO FRONT.]]
Moshe what a beauty. I was at 75% even before. The crap this MF terrorist [arrested with claymores] uttered in media, was so much resonant with his blog comments and F/B craps.
We did not give enough attention to Sarath Manamendra. We need his details. Anyone with records of his [revious acts such as claymore transporting, placing bombs, getting arrested, revolutionary army thing etc etc, pls forwaqrd them.
Keshara;
[[I never believed the crap thrown out here by Fonseka 2010. However, I just want to know with concrete evidence that MR is really trying to side line the general on his popularity. We hear lot of speculations but has any one got any evidence or proof that MR and GR plotting against the general?]]
None. Everyone is speculating, but none having any evidence.
My view is that there may have been a debate between the top ranks as SF was not getting enough power [as per LEN, new powers of CDS rank has not been activated - this fact is not confirmed though].
Conspirators built upon the incident. I still believe there is something odd about US interview especially after GR himself visited US recently.
The 2010 guy aka Sarath Manamendra [most likely] created the needed hype for them. F/B group is full of those fans like "Sirasa Super Star". They'd react like impulse reaction, most have no idea or interest in following proceedings of eelam war.
F/B group did one good thing. At the rate it grows, it would be always < 100k ppl. So that does not make much diff. Anyway most of these are certain UNP voters as well. But F/B group opened eyes of most ppl that what kinda immature and "anarkalie-type" movement it is. If SF ever thought of appearing in the PE, he'd withdraw it having seeing the F/B group and kinda ppl who flocked around him.
However I blame general for letting it loose and also MR's goons for publicly attacking general. They could have stopped the hype, sadly none paid any atention to the conspiracy.
[[ FukkFace said...
SK
"Asylum seekers in Indonesia are routinely beaten and denied clean water and medical care in detention centres paid for in part by Australian taxpayers, a report handed today to Government says."
wow! Now where is NYHRW/AI when we need them?
Ha, forget it, I forgot here the culpable party would be Aussies and that aint gonna happen.....ha, yes these whiteys in the US, UK, Australia, EU, never commit any human rights violations....the maximum they do is utter white lies.
hehehehe]]
You know why Jay is missing. He's gone to Indonesia. Not to look after the refugees, but to beat them. White masters have changed his role from IDP arse licker to refugee basher.
Western policy is rather simple.
IDP in SL -> cry for them
Refugees in west -> Beat and make them starve.
What a pity.
SK,
"Strong feelings are allowed only for eelamists."
1. DM
2. SLG
3. dbsj's webcrap
Almost all the popular local media (owners) are pro-UNP. Due to MR's war effort they followed a sort of mild approach so far. When elections are called you will see how they do...
SK
DW does this by filtering and editing our comments. Now I gave up writing there. It looks like, to publish, either you gotta be a mild guy or an eelamist. Strong feelings are allowed only for eelamists.
Exactly. You couldn't have said it better.
Extreme anti-sri lankan, anti-govt, anti-SLDF comments (from tamil terrorists and the ponna gang of course) are allowed, as well as some neutral comments to "balance" things up. Rarely do you see a pro-sri lankan comment.
Some patriots are impersonated in the DM blog and despite complaining many times, they've absolutely taken no action on this regards
So make sure you're identity is given only to those who can be trusted 100%
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Daily Mirror does this by filtering and editing our comments. Now I gave up writing there. It looks like, to publish, either you gotta be a mild guy or an eelamist. Strong feelings are allowed only for eelamists.
hemantha said...
I just read the 'Divaina' editorial.
May be SF is already screwed. Well done Chanaka. Likes of you have done a great job.
Didn't I say weeks back that "SF has no chance against Politicians".
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Of course there is, but need to be patient. Nothing is for free. You want something, they you have to pay for it. Politics has it's price.
If he feels strongly about it, why not learn the ropes first and then go for what ever he likes.
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