Wednesday, February 3, 2010

The Fonseka (post November 2009) Fiasco

General Fonseka: Military leader, failed Presidential candidate

At DefenceWire we have established, for our own team, 3 points of analysis for examining Sarath Fonseka. We would like to share those with you. The first is Sarath Fonseka pre December 2005 (Sarath Fonseka: the early and not so famous years). The second is Sarath Fonseka post December 2005 and upto mid-November 2009 when he was Commander of the Army. The Third point of analysis is Sarath Fonseka post November 2009 when he became a political candidate.

Upto the end of his military career, Sarath Fonseka was described and analyzed on the merits of his Command as a military officer. Citizens who were opposed to terrorism saw him as a hero, some even calling him "Nandimithra", the great warrior general of King Dutugemunu. Those who favoured terrorism, like the separatist Tamil elites in the TNA and Tamil Diaspora, considered him a criminal. He was acknowledged as a great military leader regionally and even internationally by forces opposed to terrorism as a concept and phenomenon.

Following his entry into politics however, that description has changed. We would like to describe it as a broadening of the unit of analysis to include all three periods of Fonseka's life described above. This analysis had to include his personal life and character during his military career.

The political arena, as was witnessed, is a whole different ballgame for a military man. It is more so when he is campaigning for the biggest job in the country. The candidates have to embrace the fact that every aspect of their character, from the time they held a responsible office, will be scrutinized. Herein lies the dilemma.

Does one scrutinize a successful military commander-turned candidate based on the merits of THAT job (past military record)? or does one scrutinize his political record? which, in Fonseka's case was non-existent. We do not know of a single military officer (perhaps Yoshitha being the exception) who enters the service with at least a figment of an imagination of eventually running for a public office or even President.

This is why military service has been separated from political service, at least at this level. Now, had Fonseka campaigned for the forthcoming General Election without campaigning the last Presidential Election, he would have stood a chance of being elected and would still be the darling of the masses.

But, unfortunately, he chose the latter maybe because he wanted to get even with the Rajapakses, but also because a group of opportunistic political jackals (we will explain why we use this term) saw this as the opportunity for some reflected glory in the war victory and a chance to "Send Mahinda Home". Fonseka post November 2009 would have agreed to both these objectives.

Both Fonseka and the pack of jackals were guided by political expediency rather than principles and lost handsomely. For those jackals that lured the lion and turned him into a half-breed, this is what they do.

But this is NOT what military officers do, at least that was not the precedence in Sri Lanka until Fonseka post November 2009. The task of the lion was to form the vanguard around the lambs and protect the lambs from harm and not to charge into the midst of the lambs with a pack of jackals asking to be elected their king.

The luring of the lion (and the lion being lured) and a few other lions following their leader into this mish-mash of things has discredited the uniform. This was inevitable. Fonseka and his followers made this choice. They will now have to live with it.

The Army will have nothing to do with it either, for if they did, the 5 forcibly retired Generals (and we can name at least five more who Fonseka promoted above others) would have left the Army and joined his campaign. Now a show of support like that would have definitely turned the tables on the Rajapakse regime. But this did not happen.

Lesson learnt? Politicians cannot be discredited the same way that you cannot mud-wrestle with a pig. But military officers can and will be discredited and they will suffer, for it is a profession with honour. It is a profession that trains one to die for that honour.

The Coup

Totally fabricated coup designed to create a public opinion to purge Fonseka from public life forever, which also reinforces our argument about the lion laying in with the jackals/pigs and losing its credibility. Our estimate is that the government, which is also made up of some cunning jackals of its own, will eventually get Fonseka to commit a mistake (or capitalize on one he has made already, like the statement he made to Frederica Janz) and lap him up using the long arm of the 'law'.

The people of this country, except those reeling under the pain of their favorite party losing and with it their own personal projects, will not say "අෙන් අෙපායි" at least to the extent they would have said අෙන් අෙපායි to "General Fonseka post November 2009" being put behind bars.

The statement made to Janz

What happened on that day was reported by us as follows (DefenceWire May 20th 2009). Sometimes reading between the lines maybe encouraged.

As reported by the media, LTTE's former police and 'political wing' chief and chief spokesman Nadesan, his family, Pulidevan and his family and Ramesh and his family have all died and their bodies discovered by the Special Forces.

There were rumours that the two leaders had gone down on their knees and begged the Special Forces at which point they assumed the Special Forces to smile and let them go.

Rumours are that Prabhakaran's entire family was dead. These rumours indicate that even Prabha's daughter, Duharga was there at the scene. Until otherwise indicated by the government, at this moment in particular, their bodies are nowhere to be found.

Other leaders like Lawrence, Karikalan, Ilanthirayan, Papa, Sempian etc are also dead. Their bodies might also be discovered in due course.

The chief of the LTTE's Mine-laying unit and a chief innovator of the Jhonny Mine and other deadly IEDs has died having lost both his legs in a mysterious blast. The LTTE's chief of smuggling with India and the deputy of the international procurement units (not Castro) have also died.


So did Fonseka spill the beans at the interview with Frederica? What was the point in Fonseka's idea of taking LTTE cadres alive? (කන්නදීල ඇතිකරන්නද?) Is it true that the Secretary Defence wanted the war to end on the 18th? Did he commit the Special Forces, which was the Commander's Reserve, to the final battle to secure an early end to the war for fear of an international attempt to rescue the LTTE leadership if it dragged on any further? Did Fonseka get angry with that decision made when he was away in China? Was he also angry that his own reserve was deployed from under his nose and that his own pace to end the war was somehow jeopardized? Did he feel angry that Gotabaya had stolen his thunder? These questions may have the answers embedded in them.

About whose right and whose wrong?

No one is completely right and completely wrong in this fiasco. Any one who thinks he knows what's completely right (or whose completely right) and what's completely wrong (or whose completely wrong) in this chaotic episode of contemporary Sri Lankan history is an idiot.

Thank you

DW, dA

202 comments:

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LankaPade said...

DW, like the fire came out of from this latest post. You have made the point solid that I have been single handedly fighting against the parrots of this forum that coup is not real.

On the other hand, within the context of Sri Lankan politics and not so high social values we like to follow as mainstream Sri Lankans, SF has done nothing wrong. So does MR or GR or even Merwin.

If you judge them by some sort of absolute values, I can clearly SF has crossed the line by being a partner of a corporation that supplied arms to own millitary.

This is Conflict of Interest that most Sri Lankans can never understand.

He became a zero instantly in my mine where he was a hero after hicorp fiasco.

SR @ LK said...

Excellent article!! We need more of this now DW!!

"reading between the lines maybe encouraged" - makes sense now!!

Any truth on rumours about post Jan 26th plans by SF (getting MR, GR to Gall face etc.,...)

LankaPade said...

I have utmost respect for post presidential SF for liberating us from LTTE clutches.

The trip MR GR and SF worked really well during the war phase when we had an objective to achieve.

Government must at any cost should try to protect him both his life and image regardless what he is doing.

If you don't, you will be setting up a wrong culture for any of the future heroes in the making.

Yesterday I was listening to someone regarding the trial Tony Blair has to go through due to Iraq War. That person said she likes Blair not being prosecuted even if he is found guilty.

This is how you put the Nation First before you and your own ego.

LankaPade said...

Copy and past the post I made on the previous thread:


[Parrots of Pakisland said...

Parrots are singing the same song again.

So far I see nothing solid about the coup.

Are you guys talking about Coup as in Coup-like barking cough?

He he!

February 3, 2010 4:03 AM
Delete]

Ma Abey said...

Thanks DW for your unbiased analysis. Politics always spoils everything.
With this level of repercussion and political divergence in post war Sri Lanka, we were still lucky not to have recrudescence of terrorist attacks due to the job well-done by our forces, but in fact, there could be many chances to restore and sustain separatist ideology which might pull back to terror in near future.
How can clean our politicized heads/souls for the sake of the motherland?

tata said...

Thanks DW,DA!

Have you got the dates mixed up in the first para?

LankaPade said...

[BoviCanine said...
How can clean our politicized heads/souls for the sake of the motherland?]

This is a very good question.

We send to parliament a sample of us. If we are not good enough within, we can't expect to get any better from the leadership.

You can send a UNP/SLFP/JVP/TNA/JHU/ or even a military man to the Jayawardana, it makes no difference.

What we haven't tried is a Sri Lankan got nourished in a developed nation at the executive level.

At higher level, under developed mind create too much attachment to whatever that person put the hand to including power. That attachment drives so many wrong doings.

In developed nations, that level of attachment to power isn't there.

What Sri Lanka needs is a revolution that leads to political, cultural, and religious reforms.

Only way that I can think of doing that practically is by sending Sri Lankan abroad to developed nations.

රනාගේ ගෑණි said...

Parrots of Pakisland said...
"DW, like the fire came out of from this latest post. You have made the point solid that I have been single handedly fighting against the parrots of this forum that coup is not real.

අනේ උඹ වරෙන්කෝ මාත් එක්ක ෆයිට් කරන්න, දෙන්නේ කොස්ස කැඩෙන්න !

රනාගේ ගෑණි said...

Never heard of Vegetarian Lions who protects lambs. Defencewire you aught find a more suitable example.

රනාගේ ගෑණි said...

"But military officers can and will be discredited and they will suffer, for it is a profession with honour. It is a profession that trains one to die for that honour".

Not all people follow the training they got, there some who prefer to live with shame.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vidkun_Quisling

Sujeewa Kokawala said...

Brilliant article DW.

Re: SF post Nov 2009

Do you notice SF's own deception in falling into the trap? And being merely used?

Do you see the reasons why SF is driven with anger? And his political aspects mostly depended on taking revenge from MR/GR, hence allowing others to use him?

My main question is WHY?


Re: Coup

We have been always suspecting real evidence of coup. In my response to you in last post I stated that it is more of guess than evidence. However, are you certain taht parties in MoD have genuine suspicion [which can be worng] of coup or similar act?

Also what justification do you have about the group of ppl whom has said to be accommodated in two main hotels? Is it also fabrication? Or is it a purely benevolent act?

Re: HICORP

Is it purely fabrication? Or is there some reality as far as your links suggest? In that case, can it be behind most of the fiasco? Like being the reason for teh anger and hatred of SF, and the motivation behind many support officers in high rank?

LankaPade said...

From the person who said the coup was not real .....

HICORP is real. It existed and not sure it exists now.

Every word that Upul Ilangamge said in his video was real.

It is possible SF's SOL made millions out of it and it can be proven.

They say it takes a thief to catch another.

However in the world of thieves, it may not happen fearing everyone will be in trouble.

LankaPade said...

sk asks [Do you see the reasons why SF is driven with anger? ]

In my opinion, SF fought the war with passion and he had reasons to do it since he was survived the suicide attack.

He always wanted to kill LTTE and not given a chance until MR came to power.

He was imagining making Billions after the war and saw GR/MR was taking that away from him.

He wanted to double the SLF, that means high profits for HiCorp. He then wanted SLF to rebuild NE region - that means Millions of commission dollars.

At the end, he felt he fought for nothing.

He must have felt that he was the used condom about to get discarded.

So, his anger was justified.


What he did based on that anger wasn't justified.

Swarnajith Udana said...

I do not know what happens completely or partailly, or what not happened.

But I know that SF established a military regime (my term to describe what really happend) in Ambalangoda for a short duration
and then what he was saying in the campaign and what he could not deny effectively.


So SF's remaining in the Army for this long and becoming the Army commander is just an affront to humanity and disgrace to Sri Lankan Army and Sri Lanka.


This world is a man's world. Honour of Army is not about being a brute but protecting the lambs risking their own lives.

What I completely know is that it was a abhoorent crime that SF survived as a sldier in the army for that along let alone being the commander or one of the main PE candidates. This tells many thing about sorry state about Sri Lanka due to opportunistic politicains.

LankaPade said...

[What I completely know is that it was a abhoorent crime that SF survived as a sldier in the army for that along let alone being the commander or one of the main PE candidates.]

What a pathetic view.

Imagine your loving kid one day becoming a prostitute. Do you then turn back and say what if we had an abortion?


SF hasn't committed enough sins to wipe away his good deeds.

I am glad SF survived the bomb attack so that he could liberate us.

However that doesn't exclude him from doing something wrong to the country.

MR/GR should take responsibility for guiding SF in this wrong direction.

දේශපාලුවා said...

A lame analysis.

Does not tell us why he reject the coup, when all the evidence point to a coup in two stages.

1. Why did SF break away from GR-MR traid.

Is it greed for money, greed for power?

2. Why did he ask for more power for the CDS position.

3. Why did he want powers to command all three forces?

4. Why did he ordered an arms shipment after the war was over.

5. Why did he appoint his loyalist to critical positions after the war.

6. Why did he want to increase the army by 100 000 after the war was over.

second stage of coupe.

1. Why did he report 9 of his guards have vacated their positions and asked for more guards and seacretly kept the 9 guards.

2. What were so many men in uniform doing in cinnamon lake hotel.

3. Why did some one delete the security video recordings of cinnamon lake hotel.

DW is claimed to be an expert on defense matters, he has not provided any explanations for the above mentioned serious, items.

His political analysis sucks.

I will critisize that part later

දේශපාලුවා said...

Just because you have some relative or friend higher up in the army , you dont become a political or military analyst, you just become a news leaker.

That's what DW did during the war, his political analysis of wht SF came to politics is gibberish, just words no new information nor novel analysis of past events.

No explanation why he joined UNP, and the group that bashed him during the war.

No explanation why they wanted SF, is it just to get rid of MR? Lame.

No insight into the role played bt JVP during this saga.

Why JVP did it.

just gibberish

Moshe Dyan said...

DW and da,

thank you for the article.

rohan gunaratne - the MOSAT ACCLAIMED SL anti-terror specialist - made it OBVIOUS that the greatest war hero in the SL affair is gota.

most of gota's acheivements cannot be spoken of in public. no body knows these. it's best to remain that way.

Moshe Dyan said...

come to think of it, DW's 3 months silence made a LOUD statement!!!

Swarnajith Udana said...

Moshe:

come to think of it, DW's 3 months silence made a LOUD statement.

You are exactly right. Glad I am not alone on this one.

දේශපාලුවා said...

Blogger Moshe Dyan said...

DW and da,

thank you for the article.

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MD, I dont understand why you are appreciating this.

A long time ago , when the war was about to end I pointed out the job of news blogs like DW, DN and even good analysis sites like long ranger are over, and we need blogs to discuss politics and strategy, we are doing a good job at DF, this is just a lame attempt by DW to regain his past glory.

Swarnajith Udana said...

Deshapaluwa and Moshe:

This new article is a whitewash of SF's crime by trivilising the crimes.

I am not for MR. At the moment by light years he is the only choice.

SF is the choice of Devils if the choice is made on factul knowledge.


This is not a contest between Sirim and Dudley.

This is a contest between a Satan and normal human being with many strengths and weaknesses. One of the strenth is that about National security only trustworhty leaders are MR and GR.

People stay quiet until they see which side comes victorious. If SF had come victorious there would have been a different tune.

Swarnajith Udana said...

I have a lot of respect for SF's role in the war= I respect SF's brutism +telephone sex addiction+Alcholism+womanisation+corruption

දේශපාලුවා said...

Blogger Swarnajith Udana said...

Deshapaluwa and Moshe:

This new article is a whitewash of SF's crime by trivilising the crimes.
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SU, good criticism, man you are good

Anonymous said...

Sorry DW/dA. I am dissapointed and nothing new here. More than info you have given were already in public domain. I guess DW/dA still can't fully get over with former love to a former (not any more) hero. Its hard to believe how some experts put national security down.

Moshe Dyan said...

desha, su and ninja,

with all due respect to your views, i don't see the article that way.

DW is desperately trying to reestablish the military-political SEPERATION once again.

this is a MUST.

otherwise what would happen is the military will suffer (not politics).

this is waht happened after 1962.

we have to look at bothways.

what is the UNP comes to power??? surely they will dismantle the military.

what will the government after the VITAL LINK between the political rulers and the military retaires (gota)???? they would want to contain the military.

its 1962. (irrespective of the accuracy of coup stories).

although UNP released all the coup buggers in 1965, they ensured the army won't achieve its pre 1962 glory.

SLFP was worse. despite JVP violence and LTTE violence, SLFP didn't want to strengthen the army.

if SL goes into this we are stuffed. the only way to avoid is to convince the politicians of BOTH sides that the army is no threat to them.

and to convince the army guys that politics is not for them.

DW/da are also worried about exposing the SAKKILIYA who is SF without discrediting the army. ALL his adventures were in the army. sex, corruption, abuse, incompetency, outright stealing, nepotism, name calling, etc.

but these cannot be brought out openly bcos STILL SF is heavily ingrained into the army. so DW/da think its best that these things are not aroused.

this is what i make out of the DW/da article.

at the heart of it we too have a problem. some of us cannot accept that a VULGAR, VIOLENT, ARROGANT, EGOISTIC MANIAC cannot be a good man in another field. the reality is he/she can, especially in war.

Defencewire said...

We have reported on military matters and also political matters and revealed everything we possibly could for over 3yrs. But when military and politics collided in a despicable fashion we simply stopped. Had we continues, had we chosen sides, we could have done harm to our country.

We know many of you are angry. That many of you want more information to determine which side you are on or if the side you are on is right or wrong. This is not that time. We will say what we can, what we have determined after careful consideration to be responsible. Nothing more. Nothing less.

A great danger has been averted. Let things settle on their own. It is the outside interventions and emotions of the under or ill-informed that have caused this harm in the first place. If we push any more, more damage will be caused the the country.

This is not a time for pettiness. This is not a time to wash dirty linen in public. උඩබලාගෙන කෙලගහන්න එපා.

Very many have acted without thinking. Sometimes one must stop and take stock. This is that time.

දේශපාලුවා said...

Blogger Defencewire said...

We have reported on military matters and also political matters and revealed everything we possibly could for over 3yrs. But when military and politics collided in a despicable fashion we simply stopped. ....................

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Ok ok dont cry, I wont attack you.

දේශපාලුවා said...

Blogger Defencewire said...
We know many of you are angry. That many of you want more information to determine which side you are on or if the side you are on is right or wrong.

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Nope, we want to reveal to the public the vast conspiracy that was hatched to outset the nationalist government.

LankaPade said...

A parrot said:

[Just because you have some relative or friend higher up in the army , you dont become a political or military analyst, you just become a news leaker.]


When you go against the mainstream ignorant view of parrots, they go against you.

That is why defence forum has been created - to hate SF and treat him like an animal.

They invented terms like Gonseka to trash his accomplishments.

I disagree with SF based on facts and don't call him names.


Anyone with strong patriotic views without getting the mind involved is a very dangerous person and destructive to our society.

දේශපාලුවා said...

A vast conspiracy was hatched to trap our leaders, and military officials who led the fight against LTTE, without listening to the west.

It has been revealed how western ambassadors influenced this election.

If you have information on this and is not revealing it for some reason, you are doing a great disservice to the country.

දේශපාලුවා said...

Blogger Parrots of Pakisland said...

A parrot said:

[Just because you have some relative or friend higher up in the army , you dont become a political or military analyst, you just become a news leaker.]


When you go against the mainstream ignorant view of parrots, they go against you.

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I have criticized DW, even when he was at the height of popularity.

You are rudely jumping to the middle of the argument, without knowing the history

දේශපාලුවා said...

Blogger Parrots of Pakisland said...

In developed nations, that level of attachment to power isn't there.

What Sri Lanka needs is a revolution that leads to political, cultural, and religious reforms.

Only way that I can think of doing that practically is by sending Sri Lankan abroad to developed nations.
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Man you are naive, My time is too valuable to wast on you

Moshe Dyan said...

from toiletnet.

how stupid these idiots are!!

"Ki'linochchi to Paranthan: no human beings, ghost buildings, stray cattle"

kili to paranthan is just <25km. you cannot judge the whole vanni based on that.

LTTE diaspora is more concerned about kili for obvious reasons.

Moshe Dyan said...

another BS by toiletnet.

"Sri Lanka Army (SLA) in Jaffna has begun constructing an earthen dam in an area encompassing Kaangeasanthu’rai and Keerimalai in Valikaamam North as part of the new Maximum High Security Zone (MHSZ) Wednesday, sources in Jaffna said. 20 Village Officer (VO) divisions of the 27 VO divisions occupied as SLA High Security Zone (HSZ) in Valikaamam North are to be turned into the new MHSZ, the sources added.

Basil Rajapakse, the brother and Senior Advisor of President Mahinda Rajapakse, prior to the presidential election, had promised the residents evicted by SLA in Valikaamam North that they will be permitted to resettle in their houses."

didn't the ppl of jaffna reject that promise????

if so why go by it now???

an offer materialises with acceptence. if rejected, the offer is no longer valid.

LankaPade said...

DW says

[This is not a time for pettiness. This is not a time to wash dirty linen in public. උඩබලාගෙන කෙලගහන්න එපා. ]

The way you handle this situation shows that you are one or two steps above most (if not all) of us here.

People will try to scratch very hard and test your will. I hope you will maintain your cool and have the ability to keep your focus on what you are trying to do.

LankaPade said...

[ Moshe Dyan said...

from toiletnet.

how stupid these idiots are!!]

That is the same feeling I get when I read

http://srilankadefenceforum.blogspot.com/



[ LTTE diaspora is more concerned about kili for obvious reasons.]

So does Sinhalese parrot community.

LankaPade said...

[ දේශපාලුවා said...
Man you are naive, My time is too valuable to wast on you]


Here either I am too naive or you are too stupid.

I admit I can be naive. The question is whether you are ready to accept your weakness.

Swarnajith Udana said...
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Unknown said...

DefenceWire says..(in a comment)

"A great danger has been averted. Let things settle on their own. It is the outside interventions and emotions of the under or ill-informed that have caused this harm in the first place. If we push any more, more damage will be caused the the country".

Here you says about a great danger which was averted, when such a danger is on our national security where have you hiding, why didn't you come forward to enlighten to your readers?(Don't say you are hiding under SF's underwear)
What is this great danger you are mentioning here is it a coup? If so you are contradicting with your own words(earlier you said there is no coup,) itself(A typical behaviour of SF supporters).

Unknown said...

DefenceWire says..(in a comment)

"A great danger has been averted. Let things settle on their own. It is the outside interventions and emotions of the under or ill-informed that have caused this harm in the first place. If we push any more, more damage will be caused the the country".

Here you says about a great danger which was averted, when such a danger is on our national security where have you hiding, why didn't you come forward to enlighten to your readers?(Don't say you are hiding under SF's underwear)
What is this great danger you are mentioning here is it a coup? If so you are contradicting with your own words(earlier you said there is no coup,) itself(A typical behaviour of SF supporters).

Swarnajith Udana said...

Moshe:

I still stand by my comment that this article as a whole a whitewash of SF's crime.

It also include an element of separation of military and politics(and this is a must)but it more looks like humainsing SF than separating politics from military.

It looks like that the article is saying for a military officer to be a brute is the norm. Far from it.

DW has earlier been critical of SF in mild form during the war and we did not get the clue.

His reply indicated that he believed that a great disaster has been just averted.

This statment of aversion makes a hidden but serious criticism of SF.

What did he do to provide the voters information about impending disaster.

Silence for some time can be understood. One needs time to assess things.

I am a petty mortal. I changed my mind about SF jsut before he put out the resignation letter.

Since then SF never disappointed me in disappointing me since every prediction I made (to my self)came true. I started with why take a risk?
Soon it became more certain.

If I could come to see what was happening then people with close information could have done that before me with more certaintity.

When Mahen said that he would come out on 27th I expressed suspicion. He was to come out on 27th if SF had won. I knew that SF would not win. SF is a weakest candidate ever.

Why DW was silent? It is not because DW approves SF. It is becuase, I think, that he has some reason not to go against him directly that hard.

Maybe this is a valid reason or may be he has some association.

Because of this tension in his mind odue to two conflicting forces, his article came as a white wash. He failed to recognise the danger our Nation faced. The article seemed to be saying that it was that no one can be sure who is right or wrong in this fiasco. That is thinking that SF is sure danger for Nation is some kind of idiotic action. This is a great distortion of the situation. You know MOse I am a real critcque of MR. MR has faults.

Otherwise the opposition could not have used false rumours against MR. Eventhoug they were utterly false rumours MR was vulnarable to those attacke since he has not created that clean image. Rather he let suspicions hang around him. Otherwise he would have got 75% to 85% aginst SF even without having to campaign. In politics not only you should not sin but also you should not be succeptible to attack due to your own actions.

Then responding to crticisms, he just agreed that a great disaster was averted.

The way to take the politics out of military cannot be done whitewashing and trivialising crimes of a military officer.

At the same time, now the Government should be cautious not to drag military into politics.

However, it is a known fact SF was doing poitics even while he was the commander(Tamilnadu politicians being jokers, this country belongs .. and he was meeting JVP and UNP leaders to discuss politics).

If the Government is not cautious of taking politics out of military another one can get the idea.

Moshe Dyan said...

su,

DW is more concerned about LETTING THE DUST SETTLE than finding the "truth".

i agree with him on that.

but i agree with you that justice must be delivered AT LEAST NOW. just bcos SF or anyone getting angry at justice is not an excuse for covering up crime.

a difficult compromise between the two is needed. time may be the compromise but once again "justice delayed is justice denied".

OTOH expect NO COMPROMISE from SF!!!

so the conclusion should be to go all out at SF but spare the lesser fellows.

Moshe Dyan said...

guys,

the 2 calamities we escaped are just the tip of the iceberg.

a third one MAY BE coming. DW is trying to avoid it getting worse. antogonising the BIG SF camp that is stillwithin the army will be disastrous.

we don't know what's cooking now in gonzeka's LTTE head. but i can tell you, SF has NO QUALMS WHEN IT COMES TO WHAT HE WANTS. he is a total LTTE barbarian now.

TF, once again, if we can grill SF but spare the rest at least for the time being, that would be good.

we can get them little by little.

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Swarnajith Udana said...

Mose it could very well be that your scenario is correct. That may be what prevents DW coming hard at SF. Also it could be that he does not want to attack SF even though he does not approve his actions.

We do not want to agitate this situation.

Swarnajith Udana said...

We do not want to agitate this situation since we do not which one is which.

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Swarnajith Udana said...

We do not want to agitate this situation since we do not which one is which.

This means that whether DW wihtiewashes SF's crimes or DW tries to warn us that still SF is trying to do a coup (so he is hesitant to go hard at SF.) That's all what I meant.

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priyashantha said...

Parrot became incest Rana aka Gona all of a sudden.

This is unbelievable. I'm now certain Rana is a mental case. He is trying to spam this blog as he always did.

Sam Perera said...

KDS,

You need to see a doctor. Please do it before things get worse.

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LankaPade said...

Hello Rana

Nice to meet you finally. Apparently you have hit parrots too hard and they are now like 'gini penellen bata ka ponnaya wage, kana maderiyatath bayai' - the men who got beaten by the fire stick is now so intimidated by the lightning bug.

Thanks for your service during the last two years trying to educate these sub humans.

The sad part is that they now think you are talking to yourself.

Yes, we have similar ideas. We must have had some good upbringing.


Have you noticed when going gets tough Asithri becomes Priyashantha?

Look forward tackling tough issues related to Sri lanka.

Here is some rice for parrots:

Anyone claiming Rana is me should be prepared to bet either $100,000 or his testicles (if you are broke) that I am him. I will take that bet.

Any challenges?
I don't think so. Even Ananda-USA will shy away from that.

LankaPade said...

"Sri Lanka President calls on international community to support country's development "


What if the international community ask .... how about the money spent for election? Was it necessary since you had two years left in power Mr. President?

Why can't you ask Presential Astrologer for some help since he seems to be the one making key decisions to Sri Lanka?

Can you pass laws not to accept ANY commission by anyone from international transactions?

That kind of commission structures do not exist in the developed world.

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[Colombo, 02 February, (Asiantribune.com):

Latest reports revealed that Retired General Sarath Fonseka’s Arms Dealer Son-in-law has got himself admitted in the Asiri Hospital - a private hospital, located in Narehenpita, Colombo 5, to avoid facing the police interrogation.]

I want to say, Arrest and prosecute the bugger. Perhaps he did nothing wrong in Sri Lanka. He may have done something wrong in USA by violating corporation registering rules and tax.

What is wrong is for allowing him to supply arms by SF - that is where the unethical nature clearly comes in.

Then again when we have a country full of thieves, who is to say who is guilty.


Some people yell from their lungs and sing "Namo Namo Matha"

Feb 4th is not a day of independence that we suppose to celebrate.

What have we gained since Independence if you look at who is ruling us?


Fake patriotism is only good for Parrots.

දේශපාලුවා said...

Parrot

Pakisland -පකිස්ලන්තය- was the name of the political satire column written by Karunadasa Sooriyarachichi to Sunday Divaina in the early eighties. You dont even have the intellectual honesty to attribute the framing of your screen name to the inventor.

You just copied his creation, shows with no doubt that you are a sub-sophomoric unimaginative Parrot

Diyasena said...

Sujeewa Senasinghe bet to resignhis WPC seat bcos he is contesting for parliament..Rana is betting his testes coz they are not in working order..

"pissu nethnam shoak"

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දේශපාලුවා said...

Blogger Parrots of Pakisland said...

Yesterday I was listening to someone regarding the trial Tony Blair has to go through due to Iraq War. That person said she likes Blair not being prosecuted even if he is found guilty.

This is how you put the Nation First before you and your own ego.

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This clearly shows that you dont know what you are talking about.

The Iraq war was an illegal war.

The reasons for going to war were fale. Many Intelligence officials have come out and testified that the intelligence information was manipulated to justify going to war.

Thew war didnt end in six months as top US officials predicted. Instead it is dragging on for years many financial experts have shown that it is one major cause for the global financial meltdown.
Analysis has shown more than one million iraqis have died as a result of the war.

This shows that the iraq war was waged on falsified grounds for other personal and ideological reasons of the top officials of the waring countries. Resulting in unimaginable mayhem and difficulties for the people of the whole world, including Britons.

This also means that Tony Blair has lied to the British public and lead them to a unnecessary destructive war.

This is why it is correct to prosecute and punish him, as he has betrayed the people who elected him, by lying to them and leading them to a war waged on needs by other external forces.


Our situation is totaly different, they cannot even be compared, if you can understand.

LankaPade said...

DW says

[No one is completely right and completely wrong in this fiasco. Any one who thinks he knows what's completely right (or whose completely right) and what's completely wrong (or whose completely wrong) in this chaotic episode of contemporary Sri Lankan history is an idiot.]

I might be that idiot sometimes, if not often.

Quite often blogging your opinion is like taking a gamble. Sometimes you are right, sometimes you are wrong.

Perhaps we want to know whether we can bet right.


Having said that, the ignorant loves their testicles or they don't have one.

LankaPade said...

දේශපාලුවා

[Our situation is totally different, they cannot even be compared, if you can understand.]


Can't we draw some parallels?

If British public is prepared to forgive Tony Blair based on patriotism, why can't we do the same for SF?


After all, don't you want to stick with your worriers?

After all, you are dumping a worrier to stick with whom?

We have a morally bankrupt culture and it seems British don't. Not only British wants to do the right thing by putting Blair on trial, they don't want to do anything else for him afterwords.

LankaPade said...

[The Iraq war was an illegal war.]

War is not rational.

Blair clearly joined the war to say my God is superior than yours.

This may not be 'illegal' in the eyes of Christian/Catholic devotees.

If we want to judge Blair is wrong, that is good. Let's use the same judgment within Sri Lanka as well.

දේශපාලුවා said...

Blogger Parrots of Pakisland said...

[The Iraq war was an illegal war.]

War is not rational.

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Again shows you have no intellectual discipline.


Have you heard about Just War Theory

http://www.iep.utm.edu/justwar/

LankaPade said...

[Again shows you have no intellectual discipline.]

Great, that makes us twins.

LankaPade said...

I stand by my comment.

[War is not rational.]

Please speak your heart than throwing me links and others opinion.

Rational means you engage your intellect.

Irrational mean the decision is either personal or emotional.

If you say there were no grounds for the war, then you agree with me - war is not rational.

දේශපාලුවා said...

If you say there were no grounds for the war, then you agree with me - war is not rational.

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Man which grade did you finish?

Just war theory says that particular wars are justified if certain criteria are met.

This is not my idea, it has evolved after being debated by many scholars over centuries.

There have been many wars waged on justified humanitarian grounds. The Australian intervention in East Timor is a good example.

If you think no war is justified and war should never be waged, Hitler would still be ruling Europe, and what more, you are as authoritarian as you whine your opponents (SL defence forum members) claimed to be.

You say they have no respect to your ideas, looks like you respect no other ideas to start with.

How can there be a debate.

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Killing some time

LankaPade said...

[ Man which grade did you finish?]

I have an honorary PhD by University of Ruhuna even though barely passed A/L.

[ This is not my idea, it has evolved after being debated by many scholars over centuries.]

Didn't I request let's talk about what you think - what part of that you did not understand? Perhaps you went to the same school I did :)


[There have been many wars waged on justified humanitarian grounds. The Australian intervention in East Timor is a good example.]

What is the difference between intervention and war?


[ If you think no war is justified and war should never be waged, Hitler would still be ruling Europe, and what more, you are as authoritarian as you whine your opponents (SL defence forum members) claimed to be.]

Do you think removal of Hitler is justified?

LankaPade said...

[At least learn to make a cohesive argument before comming to blogs and whine about not beeing heard.]

Deshapaluva, man in a sewage pit throwing sewage at another and laughing at his smell.

I like your wisdom.

දේශපාලුවා said...

Blogger Parrots of Pakisland said...

[ Man which grade did you finish?]

I have an honorary PhD
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So does Mrevin Silva

LankaPade said...

I was wondering why DW made that statement:

[No one is completely right and completely wrong in this fiasco. Any one who thinks he knows what's completely right (or whose completely right) and what's completely wrong (or whose completely wrong) in this chaotic episode of contemporary Sri Lankan history is an idiot.]


Then

[දේශපාලුවා said...

Just because you have some relative or friend higher up in the army , you dont become a political or military analyst, you just become a news leaker.

That's what DW did during the war, his political analysis of wht SF came to politics is gibberish, just words no new information nor novel analysis of past events.

No explanation why he joined UNP, and the group that bashed him during the war.

No explanation why they wanted SF, is it just to get rid of MR? Lame.

No insight into the role played bt JVP during this saga.

Why JVP did it.

just gibberish]

LankaPade said...

Too bad you did not get my point :)

What are you smokin? Please stop that since you show signs of a frozen brain.


දේශපාලුවා said...

Blogger Parrots of Pakisland said...

[ Man which grade did you finish?]

I have an honorary PhD
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So does Mrevin Silva]

LankaPade said...

දේශපාලුවා

I want back and read some of your views here. It appears you are from DF that I call run by Parrots of Pakisland.

Your mission to get DW is now understandable.

Let me ask you a question:
What is your view on last election?

Was it necessary or not?

දේශපාලුවා said...

Blogger Parrots of Pakisland said...

At higher level, under developed mind create too much attachment to whatever that person put the hand to including power. That attachment drives so many wrong doings.

In developed nations, that level of attachment to power isn't there.

What Sri Lanka needs is a revolution that leads to political, cultural, and religious reforms.

Only way that I can think of doing that practically is by sending Sri Lankan abroad to developed nations.

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Here is another example to show that you dont know what you are talking about.

The List pf corruption by politicians in developed countreis is endless.

Here are just a few by the top of the list.

George Bush knew about and facilitated the malicious financial practices the occured in Enron company, whichs bankruptcy left thousands unemplyed and lost lives savings of thousands and started the current financial meltdown.

Dick Cheny was the CEO of Halliburton the Oil giant, who got no bid contacts in post war Iraq.

Tom Delay the speaker of the congress, (3rd in command in US governmnet) resigned after it was revealed he took bribes from a lobbyist to manipulated bills in favor of his clients.

Another congressman was coaught with his bribe hidden in his refrigerator.

These are just few examples form USA, other developed countries are worse. If you think we are moraly bankrupt and they are superior you are suffering from colonial servant mentality.

You dont know whats going on in the world.

If you think we are morally bankrupt, why did you accept the honorary PhD from a morally bankrupt university?

I have answered all your questions, all I hear is just gibberish.

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it isn't fun to fight a retard

දේශපාලුවා said...

Let me ask you a question:
What is your view on last election?

Was it necessary or not?

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Elections are nessary in ademocracy, what are you asking? If you mean to hold the election two years before it is due, I would say yes.

It is the politically correct decision. MR has tremendous favor ability, not the parlimet, if he was the hold the parliament elections first he would have lost many seats and would have been a hung parliament. Without being able to any of the constitutional reforms the people expect.

By holding presidential elections first, which he is sure to win, he is hoping to carry the momentum to the Parlimeray elections and get the 2/3 majority and make the ground work for constitutional amendments.

I expect our leaders to utilize political tactics to deliver what is good to the country, there for I agree with MR holding the PE elections at this time

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Here is how දේශපාලුවා

"වමාරා කනව කියන්නෙ මේකට තමයි"

[I expect our leaders to utilize political tactics to deliver what is good to the country, there for I agree with MR holding the PE elections at this time]

Is it OK for a third world to spend that kind of money premature?

What is good for the country from the money and efforts wasted?

[Elections are nessary in ademocracy, what are you asking? If you mean to hold the election two years before it is due, I would say yes.]


You sounds like a dumb patriot.

Holding election at this stage was a very unpatriotic decision. It was actually a personal selfish decision to fry SF.

MR regime used the government power and money to deter MR's effort.

That is not democracy, hypocrisy.

I did not want SF to win. I wanted MR to remain in power.

I don't like path taken to win since it was done at any cost.

I say so since I am not a DUMB patriot.

LankaPade said...

You started with your usual blah bhah ...

[George Bush knew about and facilitated the malicious financial practices the occured in Enron company, whichs bankruptcy left thousands unemplyed and lost lives savings of thousands and started the current financial meltdown.

Dick Cheny was the CEO of Halliburton the Oil giant, who got no bid contacts in post war Iraq.

Tom Delay the speaker of the congress, (3rd in command in US governmnet) resigned after it was revealed he took bribes from a lobbyist to manipulated bills in favor of his clients.

Another congressman was coaught with his bribe hidden in his refrigerator.]


Then you say:

[These are just few examples form USA, other developed countries are worse. If you think we are moraly bankrupt and they are superior you are suffering from colonial servant mentality.]

What a confused sole.
You contradicted your own arguments. Yes, they are few arguments. Majority of politicians in US are corruption free.

There is law in USA to prosecute whoever doing things wrong, unlike Kangaroo courts in Pakisland.

LankaPade said...

[If you think we are morally bankrupt, why did you accept the honorary PhD from a morally bankrupt university?]

Do you actually dumb enough to think this is true?


Sorry for personal attacks at the end and beginning of my posts to you - just trying to follow your style.

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දේශපාලුවා said...

What a confused sole.
You contradicted your own arguments. Yes, they are few arguments. Majority of politicians in US are corruption free.

There is law in USA to prosecute whoever doing things wrong, unlike Kangaroo courts in Pakisland.

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Where am I contradicting myself, ask a person from USA they will say they do not trust any of their politicians.

Any way its subjective.

There is no country in this world with clean politicians. If you say all politicians in SL take bribes and are corrupt show the evidence.

Same kind of hypocrisy happens in USA and developed countries, politicians appoint their supportres to governmnet positions, try to get their kids and friends to good schools by influencing school officials. It happens every where.

Here is a recent report, that says US congressmaen are just serving in the congress to start netwroking and then find high paying lobbyst jobs to influence lwa making in favour of companies, where is by the people for the people went to.
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,959270,00.html

Looks like you think developed countries are a utopia? May I ask have you ever lived in a developed country?


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Holding election at this stage was a very unpatriotic decision. It was actually a personal selfish decision to fry SF.

Just your imagination, PE was unofficially declared before SF showed signs he would run.

දේශපාලුවා said...

Blogger Parrots of Pakisland said...

Holding election at this stage was a very unpatriotic decision. It was actually a personal selfish decision to fry SF.
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Statement of the century.
So all the "corrupt" and "cunning" politicians ,artist and intellectuals, burnt their patrol, campaigning for MR, without understanding that this is just to fry SF? Or did they all undersatood and agrred to fry SF?

Man you should be given a honorary PhD.

මාර මොලේ කටුගෙට යවන්න තියෙන්නෙ

LankaPade said...

You ask a stupid question and then you provide an answer contradicting yourself.

[Where am I contradicting myself, ask a person from USA they will say they do not trust any of their politicians.]


[Any way its subjective.]



[There is no country in this world with clean politicians. If you say all politicians in SL take bribes and are corrupt show the evidence.]

What is the net worth of a politician before and after the election?

Your question is to brick wall corrupt culture since you don't have to admit anything.

How much % of each defense contract goes to politicians?

Does the same thing happen in USA?

How much commission % US politicians are getting from transactions?

[Same kind of hypocrisy happens in USA and developed countries, politicians appoint their supportres to governmnet positions, try to get their kids and friends to good schools by influencing school officials. It happens every where.
]

What is the occurrence % that in Sri Lanka with respect to other nations?


[May I ask have you ever lived in a developed country?]

You state your location/s and I will do the same.

Fonseka 2010 said...

Did SF get money from LTTE in Aug 2009? LTTE knew about his 2010 presidential candidacy even before most patriots, including DW.

දේශපාලුවා said...

Blogger Parrots of Pakisland said...

You started with your usual blah bhah ...

[George Bush knew about and facilitated the malicious financial practices the occured in Enron company, whichs bankruptcy left thousands unemplyed and lost lives savings of thousands and started the current financial meltdown.

Dick Cheny was the CEO of Halliburton the Oil giant, who got no bid contacts in post war Iraq.

Tom Delay the speaker of the congress, (3rd in command in US governmnet) resigned after it was revealed he took bribes from a lobbyist to manipulated bills in favor of his clients.

Another congressman was coaught with his bribe hidden in his refrigerator.]


Then you say:

[These are just few examples form USA, other developed countries are worse. If you think we are moraly bankrupt and they are superior you are suffering from colonial servant mentality.]

What a confused sole.
You contradicted your own arguments. Yes, they are few arguments. Majority of politicians in US are corruption free.

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Looks like you dont even understand English, may be you just know to worship English.

When I said these are just a few examples, that means there are many more and I'm just presenting a few.

Where am I contradicting myself here?

How much % of each defense contract goes to politicians?

Does the same thing happen in USA?

How much commission % US politicians are getting from transactions?

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Refer to my post about corruption in US politicians.

I have a direct anwer to your question about defence contractors.

Black water a Defence contactor in Iraq, has violated many laws, and profited by no bid contarcts and many other unethical meothds is owned by a guy who is a Republican patry loyalist and he contributes millions to the party during elections.

http://www.harpers.org/archive/2006/09/sb-revolving-door-blackwater-1158094722

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You talk about SL politicians getting commissions and cuts out of defense contracts and other transactions.

I provided you solid evidence to show how US politicians benefit from their positions.

Now you show me evidence for every or most of SL politicians getting these commisions and cuts.

If you cant you can go and do this.

Get your whole family together, wives, sisters, brothers, and kids, find a politician and start licking their balls like bunch of puppies hanging on to their mother's breast

LankaPade said...

Life in Pakisland

Fairly old article, however the culture remains the same

http://www.lankanewspapers.com/news/2005/2/653.html

LankaPade said...

COLOMBO, Feb. 4 (Xinhua) -- Sri Lankan President Mahinda Rajapaksa on Thursday vowed to build an efficient, advanced nation through commitment, discipline and elimination of corruption.

http://news.xinhuanet.com/english2010/world/2010-02/05/c_13164028.htm


Never heard US president is saying we need to eliminate corruption during SOU Address.

Moshe Dyan said...

another dream come true!!!

SLDFs destroy SUICIDE BOMBER brainwashing centres. these are TERROR factories. destroying these will save the future generation of tamil kids. and keep adel balusingham and her cyanide capsules away too.

"SLA demolishes Liberation Tigers’ Heroes’ Resting Homes in Jaffna
[TamilNet, Thursday, 04 February 2010, 05:04 GMT]
Sri Lanka Army (SLA) occupying Jaffna peninsula is actively engaged in demolishing the Heroes’ Resting Homes (HRH) of fallen Liberation Tigers in Uduppidi, Kodikaamam, Koappaay and Veala’nai in the islets of Jaffna, sources in Jaffna said. Foreign media persons now visiting Jaffna peninsula in large numbers who show a keen interest in visiting the HRHs are shocked to witness the systematic demolishment of war heroes’ memorial monuments which are given due respect all over the world."

දේශපාලුවා said...

Blogger Parrots of Pakisland said...

Never heard US president is saying we need to eliminate corruption during SOU Address.

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Looks like you never get enough, I showed you solid evidence of corruption in the top 3 positions in USA, you are yet to show me evidence of SL politicians getting commissions and cuts.

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Of course corruption and waste has been addressed by many US presidents in SOU, and many campaigns.

Looks like you live in USA, just look at Illinois gubernatorial race, see how much of of a topic corruption there.


I have a free advise for you, learn the English language, dont be a slave of English or the west.



By the way you are yet to show me my contradiction here.

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Another congressman was coaught with his bribe hidden in his refrigerator.]


Then you say:

[These are just few examples form USA, other developed countries are worse. If you think we are moraly bankrupt and they are superior you are suffering from colonial servant mentality.]

What a confused sole.
You contradicted your own arguments. Yes, they are few arguments. Majority of politicians in US are corruption free.


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LankaPade said...

[I have a free advise for you, learn the English language, dont be a slave of English or the west.]

Thanks for advice not needed.
I have an advice for you too. Don't be a slave or ball licker for SL politicians just because you think you are patriotic.

දේශපාලුවා said...

Blogger Parrots of Pakisland said...

Thanks for advice not needed.
I have an advice for you too. Don't be a slave or ball licker for SL politicians just because you think you are patriotic.

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I am not, show me why.

You are yet to provide me with the evidence and point me why you said I contradicted myself.

Anonymous said...

Deshapaluwa you have fallen into the trap of multipolar. He wants you to engage in a "discussion" with him.


He is not interested in what you have to say or even in the rubbish he himself is preaching. He is a troll.
Just ignore him. The more you engage with him the more you feed him.

Please stop.

Sam Perera said...

Desha,

Don't waste your time with Boorubahu's mupltipolar twin. Save your energy for a real monkey.

දේශපාලුවා said...

Pol and Sam

Just had some time to Kill today.

First he said SL politicians must be punished for corruption, but Tony Blair should be speared even if he was found guilty.

Then I showed that TB has lied to the public if he as a politician should be spared even when there is evidence what is the Moral high ground he is speaking.

He said in developed countries politicians are not corrupted.

Then I showed evidence of corruption in the Top three positions in US governmnet, he probably dindt understand English and started gibbering about me contradicting my self.

Then he said the sole aim of PE was to fry SF, then I showed that would mean all the politicians artist and intellectuals that supported MR should have to be deceived.

Then he said all SL ppoliticians take cuts and commisions from defence contactors and tarnsactions.

I showed evidence of that happening at USA and ask him to provide evidence showing all SL politicians taking commissions or cuts.

He is yet to be heard.

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Anushka Gonawala said...

Rana,

Glad you are fighting these cardboard patriots. We can't have peace because of these fools. Why do they call you multipolar?

Anushka Gonawala said...

පකක් නැති පකිස්බුරු‍වෝ, රනා ගොනෝ,

මම අනුෂ්කා.

තොගෙ සක්කිලි වැඩ ජඩ වැඩ තොගෙ පවුල දන්නවා.

Anushka Gonawala said...

අනේ අයියේ මගේ comments මකන්න එපා.

මම අනුෂ්කා.

රනාට පිස්සු හොදටම පිස්සු.

අපි specialist psychiatrist කෙනෙකුට රනාව පෙන්නුවා.

Everyday blog කරන්න කිවුවා.
රනාට හොදටම පිස්සු.

LankaPade said...

The above three posts have been posted on Defence Forum where the Moderators Ananda and Sam say they want to have a quality discussions about Sri Lankan politics and progress.

Hypocrisy Hypocrisy Hypocrisy

Parrots are the Sinhalese equivalent of Tamil Diaspora.

LankaPade said...

Nice report of achievements to fellow parrots. They all agreed with you (no surprise there).

There is no reason to debate whether SL has a corrupt govt or not since it is a well understood fact.

US has perhaps few hundred lawmakers and the level of corruption among them is perhaps less than 5%. On the other hand over 95% SL ministers are corrupt.



[දේශපාලුවා said...

Pol and Sam

Just had some time to Kill today.

First he said SL politicians must be punished for corruption, but Tony Blair should be speared even if he was found guilty.

Then I showed that TB has lied to the public if he as a politician should be spared even when there is evidence what is the Moral high ground he is speaking.

He said in developed countries politicians are not corrupted.

Then I showed evidence of corruption in the Top three positions in US governmnet, he probably dindt understand English and started gibbering about me contradicting my self.

Then he said the sole aim of PE was to fry SF, then I showed that would mean all the politicians artist and intellectuals that supported MR should have to be deceived.

Then he said all SL ppoliticians take cuts and commisions from defence contactors and tarnsactions.

I showed evidence of that happening at USA and ask him to provide evidence showing all SL politicians taking commissions or cuts.

He is yet to be heard.]

Unknown said...

excellent post DW

I particularly like the ending... :)

all these folks who completely blame SF for everything talking about unproven allegations...like the corruption charges etc are not proven to date...
you can sling mud at the man but he is not guilty until proven otherwise...
So Mr. Swarnajith...you are jumping the gun!

Swarnajith Udana said...

MR. Ranil

"all these folks who completely blame SF for everything talking about unproven allegations...like the corruption charges etc are not proven to date...
you can sling mud at the man but he is not guilty until proven otherwise..."

Question 1: Could you please apply this 'law' -he is not guilty until proven guilty to MR too.

If you do then MR looks even better. Since SF has committed an offence that made him unbecoming of a gentleman and officer. And he was convinced of it. This charge may include a range of charges.

Also unless you vouch that SF is insane then SF's own confessions during the campaign must be taken as convictions.

SF confessed that he was a pathological liar: GR brought the ship I cancelled it(Even though he did not have the power to do it) . Then he said that he ordered the GR cancelled it and it damaged China -Sri Lanka relations.

(There are so many like this. If one did not hear any of them one must be conceptually and or emotionally and/or psychologically and or physically deaf. In that case, it is a time waste to quote them.

He confessed that he was going to be Idi Amin/Pol Pot: To increase salaries and reduce cost of living we will have to chase off economists.

This means that if the economists do not agree with him he would kill them and follow his plan. Then apply this theory to Education.

To improve education he will have to kill teachers, burn books and kill studetns.

Apply this wonderful theory again and again.


Then he confessed he did not have self control: Kalawaddha, Katu katha etc.


My 'law' is much tougher than the law of yours.

Not only politicians should not sin but also by omission or negligence or carelessness (that means by their own actions or inactions) should not look susceptible.


Even though all the rumours were false people took them to be true at least for while by some still to be true by many. Partially this is MR's fault he let hang suspicions around by inaction. (Some of these inactivity was necessitated by rogue parliament and rogue opposition to keep the war effort going. There is an absolute partial responsibility of MR and some of it absolute necessity to keep the Government going to destroy the LTTE. For my knowledge what was necessary from MR was tolerance of Mervin.

Whatever the faults of MR he stood steadfastly against International agents of LTTE. We need to keep him until we wade off the remaining threats from Ranil Wickramasinghe, SF, TNA and other International agents of LTTE.

In politics we cannot vote SF or let SF come to power and let him prove he is not an Idi Amin. He had to prove it before he comes to power. But since as Idi Amin he did not have any self control he self confessed repeatedly about his nature. WE NEED TO MAKE OUR DECISION ON THESE SELF CONFESSIONS.

By the way you may be still believe that the Vote has been rigged. I give the SFist proof on this.

The vote has been rigged in a manner we can never prove of. Since we cannot prove that the vote has been rigged it has been rigged in exactly the way it has been proposed to have happened.

Swarnajith Udana said...

And he was convinced of it. This charge may include a range of charges.

Should read as

And he was convicted of it. This charge may include a range of charges

Dumindak said...

test

Dumindak said...

There was an excellent guy here, WIJAYAPALA, an real independant guy, I used to read his comments, but he has vanished now.
many comments are infact alligned with political parties.

Sujeewa Kokawala said...

DW;

I hope you read this. Sadly someone with diff personal intentions has filled the commentary space.

I do not blame you, neither call this a lame report. I think the "between lines" content of this post cannot be published.

I have few questions.

1. Had there been a genuine risk of a coup?

2. Had there been a genuine suspicion in the side of govt?

3. Even if there was no coup in the radar at all, still, was tehre a risk to incumbent Prez and his immediate ppl IF SF won? I mean, the ousting of his does not mean he becomes flesh and meat to be shed in Gale Face. I heard of a similar plan from many sources in media.


I hope you will reply my Qs.

Defencewire said...

A possible new wave of retirements in the Army top brass seems to have been avoided at least for the time-being. One senior officer replaced recently from his post as Army CoS and another officer who pioneered the Commandos was among a group of officers to potentially face being sent on compulsory leave. Earlier 14 officers were sent on compulsory leave. 3 Generals, one of whom was sent on compulsory, leave were first sent to to Colombo on temporary leave from Jaffna in mid January without being given explanations as to why.

Sujeewa Kokawala said...

SU/MD;

Re: SF

My comments about SF is based on his contribution to war and politics [two public acts he took part in]. I do not want to consider his private life in such.

When we discuss SFt the commander I do not consider his allegations of Dhanawathie affair, phone sex, name calling of ppl, not even smashing at a cook/barber. With all those difficulties, one can still be a good general. But some of such do matter in politics.

Hicorp matters in both.

I have heard that Einstein the brilliant man had been violent to his wife, and Churchill the war hero was a bloody drunkard. We do not include such when we discuss the professional conduct do we?

Sujeewa Kokawala said...

DW;

[[...and another officer who pioneered the Commandos...]]

I hope this is not someone whose departure may hurt you a lot more than many others. Like you, I'm also equally fond of that specific person.

I always thot he was in the receiving end from SF. If you read me, pls send a yes or no to this comment, as it is hurting honestly to imagine this.

Unknown said...

Mr. Kokawala
In never said SF was better than MR or the election was rigged etc so those comments aimed at me has no validity...
and neither did i say anything about corruption charges against MR so those comments too have no validity

the only thing i said was all these baseless accusations aimed at SF are not proven without a doubt to date...
this include that major story about HiCorp and all those other incident you love to talk about...
most of those are not proven to date so is it fair to put that against SF????
The fact is that government very tactfully used most of these mud campaigns to eat at SF's would be voters and in my opinion it worked.
every single day and almost every hour government media was slinging mud at SF using these accusations...
and even after SF won, they came up with this bull shit story about SF wanting to kill MR and the family, which is as stupid as it get!
anybody who stayed at that hotel that day would know if there was 300 odd armed deserters as alleged by the government...
MR has done a great job for the country...no two words about it!
But that doesn't make all his actions correct now does it?

LankaPade said...

SK asks like asking something from a crystal ball.

DW is just a blogger providing some opinion on limited matter. This is not NPR like comprehensive reporting where the writer has answer to everything. For most of the issues related to Sri Lanka, we have a general idea what is going on.


You started praising DW big time and now have doubts. I know women and children are allowed to change their minds, may be gays as well.

Reporters don't talk to people often and by doing so, uninformed readers can drive them crazy from their curiosity.


[Sujeewa Kokawala said...

DW;

I hope you read this. Sadly someone with diff personal intentions has filled the commentary space.

I do not blame you, neither call this a lame report. I think the "between lines" content of this post cannot be published.

I have few questions.

1. Had there been a genuine risk of a coup?

2. Had there been a genuine suspicion in the side of govt?

3. Even if there was no coup in the radar at all, still, was tehre a risk to incumbent Prez and his immediate ppl IF SF won? I mean, the ousting of his does not mean he becomes flesh and meat to be shed in Gale Face. I heard of a similar plan from many sources in media.


I hope you will reply my Qs.]

LankaPade said...

Ranil

[MR has done a great job for the country...no two words about it!
But that doesn't make all his actions correct now does it?]

This is how you become a Sri Lankan patriot - question everything including your leaders motives.

Licking leaders balls are not a short cut to patriotism.

LankaPade said...

Patriots Vs Parrots

This blog has more parrots than patriots.

Patriots can rebuild Sri Lanka.
Parrots can only build a Pakisland.

In the Pakisland, pakisos are required to show giant cut offs of the leader at every junction.


Pakisos sing national anthem like parrots singing to each other with no mind involved.

Revolution to elliminate Tamil Parrots are almost over. We need to start another revolution to elliminate Sinhalese Parrots.

දේශපාලුවා said...

Blogger Parrots of Pakisland said...

There is no reason to debate whether SL has a corrupt govt or not since it is a well understood fact.

-------------------------------------

So there is no evidence to your claims, no explanation of your claims (how I contradicted my self), no explanations of your contradictions, and no admittance to facts.

This is the difference between you and us

LankaPade said...

Sri Lankan government is much more corrupt than US congress - it is a fact.

Sri Lankan army commander is much more corrupt than US army commander.

Can you prove otherwise?


Of cause one US congressman stuck cash in a freezer and got caught - prosecuted.

Can you imagine doing something to a Sri Lankan politician?

The question is who is going to catch and prosecute thieves in Sri Lanka?


No one in this generation.

LankaPade said...

We are a nation depend on foreign money and loans.

Basically, if we don't get them, we will be bankrupt.


Facing a bankruptcy, it is irresponsible to call elections 2 years prior to the elections suppose to happen.


It is irresponsible in the leadership to spend government money and resources to run that election.

It is irresponsible to delay the taking oath day once you win the election.

If you win the election, why wait until November to take the oath?


This is how you prostitute democracy. Democracy is a free hooker in Sri Lankan politics.


The politician ball lickers don't see it that way.

LankaPade said...

What happened to DW fan club once roamed freely here 24/7?

Oh I get it.
When DW is not singing for the choir, they ran away.

Is that real patriotism or patronage?


At least I am glad to see over 75% of posts are not from BORING Ananda from USA and Sujeewa Pukawela.



We got rid of DiaAssPora and gave birth to DiaAssHora.

Hora as in thief.

LankaPade said...

Typical negative press against SLG in the world continues.

http://www.economist.com/world/asia/displaystory.cfm?story_id=15452859&fsrc=rss

LTTE victory has been erased by spooky way of governing in Sri Lanka.

Of cause we can blame for west for being negative and not giving the support we think we earned.


You can't fool the world even though we think we can fool the nation.

Fonseka 2010 said...

There is a lot more to the Fonseka affair than what meets the eye.

In a land where money moves mountains, Fonseka was only a molehill.

The saga of the past seven months and the hundreds of million dollars wasted are all for one man. Once he is secure, you'll all get to read the full report.

Until then, bite your claws and wait for more seemingly innocent generals to move out of the country.

දේශපාලුවා said...

Blogger Parrots of Pakisland said...

There is no reason to debate whether SL has a corrupt govt or not since it is a well understood fact.

-----------------------------------

So there is no evidence to your claims, no explanation of your claims (how I contradicted my self), no explanations of your contradictions, and no admittance to facts.

This is the difference between you and us

LankaPade said...

Have you ever tried to debate with someone believe in Creation that there is no God?

That is the difference between you and me.

People like you sniff politicians fart and say ... hmm, smells good like Saman Pichcha.

hik hik

LankaPade said...

Fonseka 2010

Do you believe creation of Hicorp is the best interest for the military and the nation by SF?

Swarnajith Udana said...

SF's Brutism and rape charges are releveant as they expose his Idi Aministic character. Then his campaign speeches and remarks also verify this nature.

Telephone sex charges and womanisation charges are relevant since they are done in office and it created National security office.

SF was not a good military officer. He is a ruthless killer. A good military officer would not work as a mincer of the troops and send them to war to get his ego up as he did in Muhammale.

LankaPade said...

There are allegations for MR as well. Someone told me he is building a house somewhere and a neighbor look at it using a binocular and saw some women. They say Mervyn is the one supplying women.

I expect leaders to be womanizers. The issue is keeping your own politician safe and going after other ones you don't like.

Swarnajith Udana said...

Yeah there was a rumour that Buddha had killed a prostitute and hid her body near the temple.

LankaPade said...

[Swarnajith Udana said...

Yeah there was a rumour that Buddha had killed a prostitute and hid her body near the temple.]


I am responding to you like your brother Deshapaluwa.

Swarnajith Udana, you are such an idiot. Are you comparing MR with Buddha?


Tell me, do you believe what is in Temple of Tooth? Is it truth or rumor?

Have you ever visited Paththirippuwa?

My point is, you believe what you want to believe and reject what you don't.

That is the classic behavior of a PARROT!

That is why I say higher literacy rate of Sri Lankans don't count. They were never educated on free thinking which Buddhism promotes.

LankaPade said...

Swarnajith Udana

Unlike you, people like Deshapaluwa asks right questions.

The problem with him is that he ask the questions to protect SLG and MR.

That was what bright Angulimala was programmed to do.

If I am slightest like Buddha, I can convince him to be on the right path and cross over from his parrot bunch.

Swarnajith Udana said...
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Swarnajith Udana said...

When I said A=B only nonsensical people can interpret that I was saying x=y. If I wanted to say x=y I would have said that not a=b.

It is a waste of time to engage with people who cannot distinguish a=b from x=y.

Moshe Dyan said...

su,

it is very easy to fool this type of fools.

there is this physics formula,

F = MA

force = mass * acceleration

in older books the SAME formula appeared as,

P = MF

p = force, m = mass, f = acceleration

there was a mulitpolar like fool in our class, nathen, i think, and i told him.

F=MA
P=MF

but since F = MA, P=M*MA
P=M^2A

bloody idiot was impressed and he believed it!!!

look at this.

"LTTE victory has been erased by spooky way of governing in Sri Lanka."

now this idiot will twist it and say, "LTTE victory" = "victory over LTTE".

lol!!!

Moshe Dyan said...

ranil,

i can't see the following anywhere in DW's post.

"all these folks who completely blame SF for everything talking about unproven.."

which para?? or which comment???

Moshe Dyan said...

re: "all these folks who completely blame SF for everything talking about unproven.."

this is not so. these allegations ARE PROVEN enough!!

of course some are not legally proven yet. but still they are proven POLITICALLY, MORALLY , by self admission and by subsequent conduct.

we should not get confined to the LEGAL aspect. for instance USA was never proven guilty of killing 1,000,000 iraqi children. (s)hitler was NEVER proven guilty for MOST crimes he committed. VP was not proven for MOST crimes he committed. karuna was not proven for ANY crime he committed. IPKF was not proven for MOST crimes they committed. hirohitho was not proven for ANY crime he committed. LEGALLY.

we have to look at ALL proven crimes, immorals, wrongs, irregularities, malpractices, evils, etc. from the aspects of POLITICAL, MORAL, self admission and subsequent conduct.

Moshe Dyan said...

thus proven stuff against SF.

1. he engaged in conduct unbecoming of a gentleman.

this has been proven by a competant military court too.

2. he had a sexual relationship with a GRADE 9 school girl.

although she married him a 22 year old army officer carrying on a sexual relationship with a grade 9 school girl in 1973 in IMMORAL. she, in an interview to a newspaper, admitted to this. there was the misuse of telephone facilities crime here too in 1973. this would have costed a few rupees and moral value (if any of SF) in 1973. it went unpunished and it became a multi million rupee affair 23 years later!!!

http://www.sundayobserver.lk/2001/pix/PrintPage.asp?REF=/2007/10/07/spe02.asp

the VULGER DIRTY ROWDY "LOVE" affair from the mouth of anoma.

shameless!!

3. SF was not awarded VSV which is ONLY awarded for servicemen who conducted themselves with distinction.

even until he reached RETAIREMENT AGE, SF didn;t win this!!

4. SF accepted danuna's arms business and there are enough proof that PROVE CONCLUSIVELY that these are true. SF shamelessly tried to save danuna and HICORP during election time from allegations further proving their connection. undeclared related party transactions with staff is corruption for all intents ad purposes.

5. SF openly declared "gota ordered to kill surrendered tigers and their family members".

this statement NULLIFIED ALL THE achievements SF for 40 years military service.

6. SF said USDHS wanted to question SF on GR's alleged war crimes.

if true, SF would have given an essey of such "war crimes" attributable to GR.

in doing so he HINTED that "US is convinced of GR's war crimes and after GR's war crimes".

strangely now SF says he seeks asylum in the UK and australia!! IF US was trying to question him on GR's alleged war crimes what is the problem with SF???? he should be able to return to USA. but he seeks asylum elsewhere bcos he lied and afraid to go back to USA.

7. SF cleared all doubt about his character when he openly called a close family friend of his, "kalawedda, paharaya, katulewakana balla", etc. no serious presidential aspirant ever used such terms in public. it shows the inability to control his words and deeds.

8. at the height of the war SF made moral blunders. once he called tamil nadu politicians "clowns". at another time he declared, "he believed this country belonged to the sinhalese".

these statements adversely affected SL's outlook.

9. ALL military operations DIRECTLY executed by SF in elam war 4 ended in DEBACELS. the first muhamalai DEBACLE is enough proof of the incompetency of SF even as a military leader. however he repeated that a few times.

10. he betrayed the ESSENCE OF THE WAR when he teamed up with TAMIL ELAM NATIONAL ALIENS. there is enough proof. TNA members stated that they support SF bcos he ACCEPTED their demands. their demands were also presented to the president.

legal apprehension of SF is yet to happen but he has proven POLITICALLY, MORALLY AND THROUGH SELF ADMISSION that he is as guilty as idi amin, polpot or (s)hitler. no more, no less. (no one of them was proven legally at least for 10% of the crimes they committed.)

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Swarnajith Udana said...

Yes Moshe: If some one criticises MR genuinely having the best interest of the Nation at heart that we must respect. Many people who criticise MR take his faults as a prtetext to criticise him to achieve his downfall and give the country back to LTTE, Ranil and SFist Idi Aminism

Swarnajith Udana said...

Moshe keep this in handy and please repeat when ever necessary. Since some people are repeating the same nonsense of innoscence of SF it is alright to repeat it. As time permits please add more. May be you can do a feature article on this.

Swarnajith Udana said...

Moshe this is what my last comment addressed to you about "thus proven stuff against SF."

LankaPade said...

Swarnajith Udana and Moshe Dyan

You guys have nice theories against SF and trash him openly. I may or may not agree with them. I have openly criticized him when I saw clear evidence of misuse.

How come you don't see mistakes and misuse by MR. Do you find anything he does acceptable to you regardless moral or immoral?

That is why I call you people Parrots of Pakisland. When bunch of you get together, you talk the same topic and you all agree with each other.

Your opinion on anything should be considered worthless since your strong bias to MR and the government.

Swarnajith Udana said...

I called the Sun the Moon.

The sun ignored me.

LankaPade said...

Hail to the chief!!1


[EU nations have decided to suspend Sri Lanka's preferential trade status because of the island's human rights record and will make the formal move later this month, officials said Friday. ]

Dan kamu piduru

If anyone says 'current' Sri Lanka is not a Morally Bankrupt nation, the world has spoken.

LankaPade said...

Ananda the next US-Ambassador-wanna-be writes on the web:

["President MR is a great visionary and a determined person who loves the country and all Sri Lankans including Tamils and Muslims alike." ]



I give credit for MR to get rid of LTTE. He did it out of fear than using any vision. He never started out as defeating LTTE. WHen LTTE started killing SLF, MR had no choice and the army responded. NO one in Sri Lankan government has any vision. If there is a vision, it is to scam out public and get their fat bellies fatter. Please understand, there are smart people living outside Sri Lanka.

Ananda, you just entered the Parrots of Pakisland Hall of Fame.

LankaPade said...

On behalf of all Sri Lankan women, I apologize for my inability to keep you at home with your loving husbands, children, and parents.

I also apologize on behalf Sri Lankan men when they waste money you bring through misuse and over consumption of liquor.

Some people say we shouldn't worship white masters. I bet they will say YES for Arab masters.

If I am the Sri Lankan president, I will stop exporting our women to the Arab world tomorrow. I will find them good opportunities in USA and Canada instead.


[RIYADH: Sri Lanka rejected rumors on Friday the Kingdom has imposed a ban on recruiting maids from the country.

“We do not feel such a move will even take place since there is a great demand for Sri Lankan maids in Saudi Arabia,” Kingsley Ranawaka, chairman of the Sri Lanka Bureau of Foreign Employment, told Arab News."]

Ninja said...
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Swarnajith Udana said...

As a crow cannot recignise itself in a mirror ranters do not recognise they are ranting. They value their rantigs so much and assume that they are great contributions.

Dumindak said...

WIJEPALA! WIJEPALA

we miss you!

few buggers are sucking here, taking their own case with Fonseka.

haha very true patiotics indeed, sucking MR goons.

Swarnajith Udana said...

Before going for the kill VP used to extend Olvie branch. Some have learned that trick.

Before attacking viciously extend the olive branch and ask for forgiveness. Then go for the kill.

I think Dead VP is possessing succeptible ranters.

දේශපාලුවා said...

Blogger Parrots of Pakisland said...

Have you ever tried to debate with someone believe in Creation that there is no God?

That is the difference between you and me.

-------------------------------

Absolutely

This time I agree with you.

I base my arguments on facts and evidence.

You base your arguments on emotions.

දේශපාලුවා said...
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Jay said...

..hic..

The President’s first term
– why the Supreme Court is wrong

http://www.island.lk/2010/02/07/features6.html

Interesting read..

Playing cricket, sometimes you need to "thatu". Survey the field before you hit out or else you get caught out!

Ninja said...
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Jay said...

Window of opportunity still remains to retain GSP+

http://www.island.lk/2010/02/07/news1.html

http://www.eubusiness.com/news-eu/srilanka-trade.2k4

Until a few weeks ago, i was led to believe GSP+ was to be granted but phased out over 18-30 months.
Intense lobbying by various interested parties (incl myself) to retain this concession in order that the SL garment industry make strategic decisions to explore other alternatives and markets elsewhere.

The garment industry working community should not be penalised at such (relative) short notice for the intransigence of the SL Govt following strict commitments (agreed) on a wide variety of social and rights issues set by the EU.

I'am at a loss what changed.

The BBC interview with GR did not help. (Thought i was watching a re-play of Chemical Ali)

All the hundrends of thousands of Euros paid by SL Govt to the lobby did'nt help either.

back to the drawing board...

..hic..

Jay said...

..hic..

Parrots or Patriots?

I have just updated myself with whats going on in the cyber world of armchair analyst of parrots/patriots, diaspora/diashora and the like.

..hic..

I miss Sam P he was fun!

Traitor, scrummy, unmarked graves, white/yellow vans etc etc

..sigh..

Jay said...

I'am at a loss what changed.

The BBC interview with GR did not help. (Thought i was watching a re-play of Chemical Ali)

All the hundrends of thousands of Euros paid by SL Govt to the lobby did'nt help either.

At the same time all that money we paid to elect SF did not mean a lot to misguided Sri Lankans. Thought I can get a position in SF government to promote the cause of Tamils.

back to the drawing board...

..hic..

Ninja said...
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Jay said...

It appears that i have a fake that
changes my post.

OK

Swarnajith Udana said...

Jay I agrre that MR and GR need to appologise for their deed of appointing SF.(Though they did to counter the Other Devil)

How about your Masters then: Knowingly (Yes they know) for trying to make SF the executioner President?

Tamil Savior said...

Jay anna, good of you to admit your mistake.

The word I got was the LTTE Inc. financed SF's campaign with over $10,000,000 (yes, Millions that is) of contributions, but sadly once again our investment went poof right? Me, no I could not contribute as I am still in detention here in Indonesia.

Jay anna, un sooththula en poolu?

Damn this detention place. All the Indonesian guards want me to bend down and pick up worthless Indonesian coins they keep dropping when they see me coming.
Jay anna, being a kandaara oli like you, that is the only part I love about this place.

Jay said...

SU
I have no qualms about SF/GR/MR getting rid of the menace of LTTE.
Good riddance.

(How about your Masters then?)

It's me and my conscience.

You are insinuating that i have a Master.
Tsk! tsk!
I don't give a rats arse (pardon my expression) about any politicians in SL (SF/RW/MR) or any INGO's or NGO's having seen the diabolical attempt by all and sundry to fleece SL to kingdom to the detriment of innocent hard working lankans to feed their families and provide a decent living.

If i was to be frank, i don't know where we lost the plot but i blame the brain washed tamil diaspora and the short sighted politicians.

I would bet a crate of Champagne from my Vineyard (not well known nor its vintage)or adjoining Vineyards to any one that the issues will exist in 6 years time in greater magnitude.

Gentleman .. I bid you all a good day!

Swarnajith Udana said...

Jay in principle I would apologise to you since I have to accept when you say that you do not have masters. You just think MR and GR were also responsible for SF's appointment.

I too think that MR and GR should take the blame for SF's appointment but not for his crimes.

However, many people use it as a pretext to bring down MR and support the executioners of the Nation.

This I do not agree with. At this time my only choice is MR by light years.

On this occassion I offer you an apology. Other posts I take issue by issue.

Tamil Savior said...

Jay anna

I almost thought you said"

"It appears that i have a fake that
changes my sex"

hehehe....don't be mad anna, just having some fun at your expense okay?

btw anna, when SF lost I heard many Tamil Saviors all over (like you and me) cried and I even heard they cried more than they cried when our Prabha thambi was castrated and his pullu was shoved down his esophagus (yes the SLA camcorder could not aim down there right?)

hehehehe.....I know not nice to laugh at our great Thalaivar this way no? But me thinks that given we have lost all bets (and keep losing them!) it is better to laugh than cry. yes no?

Tamil Savior said...

Jay anna

"I would bet a crate of Champagne from my Vineyard "

hehehehe.....nice anna.

We Tamiz coolie boys like you and me now owning a Vineyard and me owning a ship (well, the Indonesians took it, but I will get it back okay)

Tamil Savior said...

"Gentleman .. I bid you all a good day!"

well thank you anna!

My mom in Canada even will not call me a "Gentleman" !

Moshe Dyan said...

a nice article in tamilnet.

of course as usual written with a BAD ATTITUDE!!

bo ppl of andaman islands


i like this statement. it is SO VERY applicable to SL.

"By bringing in motley of people, the ‘national interest’ of India and the official language status of Hindi were maintained. But this care was not taken in protecting, promoting and giving due status to the aborigine people or their languages."

COLONIZATION can maintain SL's ‘national interest’ and official language too.

SL should at the very least follow india.

but care should be taken not to neglect tamil culture. tamil madu being the producer of 99.9% of tamil cultural stuff today (and historically) means there will not be a bad impact anyway.

Moshe Dyan said...

tamil savior,

you have to save tens of thousands more tamils from SL to safety.

don't get stuck in indonesia or australia. come back to SL and take another 10,000 tamils to safety.

they will be happy.
you will be happy
we will be happy.

ezham tamil population in SL is 8%.

8% * 20,000,000 = 1,600,000

out of this 50% live with other sri lankans and have got used to SL not TE.

that means 800,000 tamil ezham tamils still in SL.

if another 10,000 of them leaves SL that means 40,000/800,000 * 100% = 5% reduction.

bcos for every one leaves, he brings his family members too. assuming every one has 4 in the family.

a 5% reduction every year in exham tamils is a GREAT achievement especially when there is no war.

so alex anna, pls get back to business. whole townships are waiting for you in SL.

LankaPade said...

දේශපාලුවා said...

[You base your arguments on emotions.]

That is an uneducated opinion. Evidence?

I'd say you people are the ones run by too much emotions - the kind over analyze national anthem thining we are in a utopia.

LankaPade said...

DiasHora Ananda Idi Amin has deleted my posts on his Depence Porum again.

LankaPade said...

Jay

[The BBC interview with GR did not help. (Thought i was watching a re-play of Chemical Ali)]


Jay, do you find anyone look familiar here?

I like Gota from what I have heard. I will never worship him like parrots do.

LankaPade said...

Can anyone tell me why we need $300 million worth weapons from Russia?

Why can't we divert that money for some sort of small business development, education, or even building infrastructure?


Oh, I get it. The commission from that transaction is like $75 million for our politicians and Military.

So, this is to milk National Security to make some people rich.

Loken Uthum Rata Lankawai.
Lankawai hora lankawai.

Tamil Savior said...
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LankaPade said...

MR. has the Guinness world record for the 1st person having the designation Dr. King.

People in Sri Lanka are confused on how to call him, whether Dr. King or King Dr.


Can anyone tell me whether this is the university where Ven. Some got his deadly doctorate?


"People Friendship University of Russia honors Sri Lanka President with a doctorate"


I just saw the fine print of $300 mil weapon purchase agreement from Russia.

Shh!!

It says, buy $300 worth of better than junkyard quality weapons and you get a free doctorate.

Tamil Savior said...

Ada Parrot of Your Mother's Cunt

Do not mess with us boy.....today we are 200% peace loving Tamils who gave up the fight long ago.

Today we owe our lives to his Excellency Mahinda Rajapakse. Does "TMVP" "armed wing" not tell you something about us different Tamilians? yeah, we were also once "militants" but later we teamed up with SLA SF and whacked the stupid LTTE dogs as we were disgusted with them. Now we are more disgusted with you amma-hukka para-wesa type.

So aresehole, do you also want our "Tamil SL Patriotic treatment" we gave some who believed in continuation of terrorism? hehehe

Tell me, did not your thevdiya-amma (prostitue amma) not tell you that in every culture we must have a sense of 'gratitude' if we are to have peace ah?

Bloody thevdiya-bitch.....shut the fuck up here or I will personally trace you down and shut you up.

hehehehe

Tamil Savior said...

Parrot of Pundai

Some have told me here your daughters are prostitutes in NZ.

Can you please send me the "menu" indicating the prices for the "services" ?

Peter said...

SF didn't take that much from LTTE funds. He had other sources as well.

LankaPade said...

You take a loan from Russia, give commission for the Military to try SF in their court.


If SF talks, UN will listen and someone else will be tried for crime against humanity.

Folks, this drama is just beginning.

You can't try someone of his status for crime in our bankrupt moral culture.

[Gen. Fonseka to be hauled before military court
Feb 07 (ST) A Military Court will try retired General Sarath Fonseka on several charges of conspiracy, the Sunday Times learns. Such charges are to include an attempt to overthrow the Government and assassinate President Mahinda Rajapaksa.]

Jay said...
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Jay said...

If SF talks, UN will listen and someone else will be tried for crime against humanity.

Folks, this drama is just beginning.

...hic...

You are no more than a parrot. It is not going to be that easy. A close door military tribunal can't be good. At least, we can destroy one man who killed the leader this way. We will get to the others later.

...hic... parrots...

LankaPade said...

it looks like few ppl are faking jay.

Jay said...

it looks like few ppl are faking jay.

...hic...

දේශපාලුවා said...

Blogger Parrots of Pakisland said...

දේශපාලුවා said...

[You base your arguments on emotions.]

That is an uneducated opinion. Evidence?
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Here is the answer to your question.

Blogger Parrots of Pakisland said...

There is no reason to debate whether SL has a corrupt govt or not since it is a well understood fact.

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So there is no evidence to your claims, no explanation of your claims (how I contradicted my self), no explanations of your contradictions, and no admittance to facts.

I gave you evidence form reliable sources to prove my arguments.

I'm still waiting to see a shred of evidecnce for your claims.

All sri lankan politicians take commisions cuts and bribs.

Why you say I contradicted myself on one of my comments?

Where are the evidence and explanations.

............bring it on

LankaPade said...

huh!

Is that all you got?
I don't want to have a debate with anyone saying the world is round again....

දේශපාලුවා said...

මහින්ද රාජපක්‍ෂට එරෙහිව තමුන් කිසිවකුටත් එක්‌ව හෝ තනිව මුහුණදිය නොහැකි බව දන්නා විපක්‍ෂයේ දේශපාලන පක්‍ෂ එම කාර්ය භාර ගැනීමට යම් "බිලි බෝයි" කෙනෙක්‌ව ඉදිරිපත් වූ විට කුණු ගොඩකට නිලමැස්‌සන් ඇදී එන්නාක්‌ මෙන් මහින්ද රාජපක්‍ෂට එරෙහි සියලු බලවේග එකට එක්‌විය. මෙය මැතිවරණ පරාජ වලින් පසු එල්ලෙන්න වැලේ වැල් නැතුව සිටි එ.ජා.ප. ය හා ජ.වි.පෙ. මෙන්ම ලංකාව තුළ කොටි ව්‍යාපෘතිය නියෝජනය කරන දෙමළ ජාතික සංධානයේ ආර්. සම්බන්ධන් කල්ලියද රටේ අධිකරණය දේශපාලනීකරණයටත් ජනතාව ඉදිරියේ අවමානයටත් ලක්‌ කළ බවට විවේචනයට ලක්‌වූ හිටපු අගවිනිසුරු සරත් එන්. සිල්වා ද තමන්ට ලැබුණු අවස්‌ථාවෙන් කිසිදු වැඩක්‌ නොකර මහින්ද රාජපක්‍ෂගේ වැඩපිළිවෙළ හා සාර්ථකත්වය ගැන ඉරිසියාවෙන් පුපුරමින් සිටින හිටපු ජනාධිපතිනි චන්ද්‍රිකා කුමාරතුංග ද එක්‌ වීමෙන් සාදන ලද අඳුරු බලවේගයකි

දේශපාලුවා said...

http://www.divaina.com/2010/02/08/feature02.html

දේශපාලුවා said...

Blogger Parrots of Pakisland said...

huh!

Is that all you got?
I don't want to have a debate with anyone saying the world is round again....
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අනේ කතා කරපo බo

දේශපාලුවා said...
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දේශපාලුවා said...

Parrot of Pakisland

You yell at every body that they are parrots.

I showed that you shamelessly copied even your screen name from some one else, and you are the biggest parrot

I gave you evidence form reliable sources to prove my arguments.

I asked you for evidence for your arguments you said NO

I showed that you contradict your own arguments.
You said I contradicted myself, I explained you didnt even understand English, and asked for an explanation,you said NO

there is no evidence to your claims, no explanation of your claims,no explanations of your contradictions, and no admittance to facts.

This is the difference between you and us


We base our arguments on facts and evidence.

You base your arguments on emotions, and fantasies

Ninja said...
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LankaPade said...

open up the ban on me on lanka defence from (very creative name though, perhaps shamelessly copied from someone else like me huh!).

Convince your fellow parrots to honor the freedom of expression on that blog and never delete or alter anyone's posts. Then I will come and show you what you want.

LankaPade said...

"Lumumba University honors President Rajapaksa with a Doctorate in Moscow, Russia"

It is great MR get recognized for fucking LTTE.

I wonder this is a showdown against Obama by Russia since they offered him Nobel Peace ignoring MR's accomplishments?

Jay said...

Think you are wasting your time.

Ananda has even gone to the extent of responding to my fake (without checking) and as usual accusing me of being a terrorist/terror supporter etc.


Typical "raised sarong" mode that Ananda and his chums seem to portray.


I guess the 40% odd who did not vote for MR are now branded as traitors terror supporters etc.

cie la vie

දේශපාලුවා said...

Blogger Parrots of Pakisland said...

open up the ban on me on lanka defence from (very creative name though, perhaps shamelessly copied from someone else like me huh!).

Convince your fellow parrots to honor the freedom of expression on that blog and never delete or alter anyone's posts. Then I will come and show you what you want.

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අනේ ඩෝ නටන්න බැරි මිනිහා පොලව ඇදයි කිව්වා වගේ කතාවක්නේ උඹ මේ කියන්නෙ, උඹට මෙතන කරන්න බැරි බිජ්ජක් Lanka defence forum එකේ කරන්නෙ කොහොමද?

මo හිතන්නෑ උඹේ පෝස්ට් කවුරුත් ඩිලීට් කරනවා කියල, උඹේ පෝස්ට් කියවලා අපි කවුරුත හොද ආතල් එකක් ගන්නවා, මo හිතන්නෑ කවුරුත ඒ ආතල් එක කඩයි කියල.

අනිත එක උඹේ මේකතාවෙන් තහවුරු වෙනවා උඹ් තාම මගේ ප්‍රශ්න වලටවත් අබියෝග වලටවත් කිසිම පිලිතුරක් නොදී කර ඇරපු බව. කට බොරු කිව්වත් දිව බොරු කියන්නේනෑ කියන්නේ මේකට තමයි.

දැන් මේ වාදෙට සුමානයක් කිට්ටු වේන්න එනවා උඹට මෙච්චර කාලෙකට දෙනන බැරිවෙච්ච උත්තර කවදාවත් දෙයි කියලා මම නම් හිතන්නේනෑ.

කොහොම වුනත්, මගේ ප්‍රශ්න වලට උත්තර දුන්නත් නැතත් උඹ මේ ෆොරම් එක දාලා යන්න එපා, අපිටත් හොද බයිට් එකක් හම්බවේන්නෙ කලාතුරකින්.

උඹ ගිහින් Lanka defence forum එකේ පෝස්ට් කරපන්, කවුරුත් ඩිලීට් කරන්නෙනෑ

LankaPade said...

Deshapakaya

"උඹ ගිහින් Lanka defence forum එකේ පෝස්ට් කරපන්, කවුරුත් ඩිලීට් කරන්නෙනෑ"

I am posting this right now, let's see.

LankaPade said...

My post was erased by parrots in a NY second.

දේශපාලුවා said...

Blogger Parrots of Pakisland said...

My post was erased by parrots in a NY second.
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It is not my blog.

අඩන්නැතුව මෙතන කියන දෙයක් කියපo

කවීන් said...

The tone which this post has written is far different from the other posts. SF shouldn't have enter in o politics and in the sometime government shouldn't have treated SF in that manner.

rover said...

what about arrest of an officer for killing of Lasantha

Rover said...

DW,

Good to see you back, and I understand the reasons for your silence. Greatly appreciate your stance in this matter as well. Anyway, really nice to see my favorite site functional again.

I hope that the great men who gave leader ship to the fight against the LTTE will not have to pay unnecessarily.

And what happened to General SF will be a thing to remember, so that officers and gentlemen of our military won't be humiliated in this manner in the future. Sri Lankan politics is not a place for gentlemen.

I too consider the people who manipulated SF to be pigs and jackals as well.

This episode has destabilized Sri Lanka, and have helped to put the burning issues of economic development, resettling of the displaced, development of N and E, ect. in the back burner.

We must ask ourselves if we always NEED a nationalistic issue to function? The politicians are playing to the lower instincts of the people, and there are more than enough dunces to gang up with them, and carry the petty issues forward. And this is happening again. About this, I am greatly disappointed.

For example, now some of the political observers are suggesting that the General may have been trampled out this way because he was from a low-caste. This may or may not be true, but analyzes like this are reopening old wounds, creating insecurity and suspicions among the people, disuniting the people and impeding development and good will. People of our country who have suffered for 30 long years, don't deserve this.

tamilboy said...

The Biggest Con Artist Of Our Time


If ever there was an award winning con artist in the making first prize must indeed go to Wimal Weerawansa.
Of course the political kingpin; able to pull strings, influence the UPFA administration, give employment to close associates at government institutions in mere seconds and to remove them, can only function as he does because he not only has the blessings of President Mahinda Rajapaksa but functions as his “blue eyed boy.”
It is in this context that Weerawansa’s resignation from his cabinet portfolio be viewed. A political ploy that had political analysts laughing last Friday proved that Rajapaksa himself forced the resignation – all part of a gambit and political game – for no sooner had the “letter” reached the President’s office it was rejected. No surprise

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