Heavy fighting was reported from Chilawatte as 59 Division engaged the LTTE yesterday. 7 soldiers were killed and another 70 injured in the fighting. LTTE is concentrating its forces to the east of the Mulaitivu Lagoon. The strategy will be to travel from the west of the lagoon to the east.
Heavy fighting was also reported south of Iranamadu, at Ampakamam north in the last few days as Task Force 3 under Brigadier Liyanage headed into LTTE areas. 10 LTTE cadres were confirmed killed in the attack while some Charles Anthony, Imran Pandian, Malathi unit cadres have started abandoning their posts and escaping the LTTE along with their civilian captives.
While some LTTE teams in Mulaitivu still engage in the failed bund/trench defense system to stop an army, which became outdated in World War I, LTTE units east of Kilinochchi, who learnt their lesson the hard war from the 57 and the 58, have started deploying small teams for hit and run operations, particularly at Vattakachchi.
Troops advancing on Vishvamadu and about 7km away from their target while resistance in the general area north of Paranthan has gradually diminished as troops reach Chundikulam (Sundikulam).
Thursday, January 15, 2009
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Who will catch the Fat Pig?
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Looks like there was a rescue mission for someone in LTTE area. The mission seems to have succeeded also.
Obviously the radar never alerted and the interceptors were again late or never came.
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Colombo (IANS): The Sri Lankan Navy has detected and fired at a suspicious aircraft flying at a very high altitude off Mullaitivu area, a military official said here on Wednesday.
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Colombo (IANS): The Sri Lankan Navy has detected and fired at a suspicious aircraft flying at a very high altitude off Mullaitivu area, a military official said here on Wednesday.
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If above scenario is true, I think there are some serious things going on and obviously is not good and really a pathetic situation.
I just wandering what the FCUK SLA is doing, How the hell anyone can get a away like that?
Guys,
The aircraft could have been one of our own Beechcrafts. Not the first time that navy nitwits have mistaken SLAF Beechcrafts for enemy aircraft.
If it did land or take from the Wanni, it would have spotted by our SF and LRRP chappies who are all over the place. Unlikely that it got away safely!
PS, Could have been a RAW plane as well ;-)
Will try to get some confirmation, can't gaurantee it, no one is talking these days!
Lalith,
I don't want it to get chopped off.
Have always kept my distance from Maradhana.
The plane was RAW's; hence, news appeared first on IANS.
A few Poomalai style food parcels.
What reuters have reported could be Bullshit.
Reuters Report
Sri Lanka stops Tiger plane from escaping
By Ranga Sirilal
COLOMBO (Reuters) - Sri Lanka's navy forced a fleeing Tamil Tiger plane to turn back in barrages of anti-aircraft fire amid growing speculation over the whereabouts of the separatist group's elusive leader, military sources said on Wednesday.
With a military onslaught shrinking the territory held by Tigers by the day, one of the biggest questions remaining is where leader Vellupillai Prabhakaran is hiding and how he might try to escape Sri Lanka.
The small plane -- one of three the military says the Tigers have in their tiny air wing -- was spotted flying out to sea from near the eastern port of Mullaittivu late on Tuesday.
"The military had observed the aircraft coming from the north and after half an hour it was seen by an eastern naval patrol. They fired at it so it could not leave the country," a military source told Reuters on condition of anonymity.
Two other military sources confirmed the account to Reuters. All three said the current location of the airplane was unknown.
The air force would only say that observers briefly spotted what appeared to be an airplane's running lights.
"We had identified a light at very high altitude for some time in between Mullaittivu and Challai," Air force spokesman Wing Commander Janaka Nanayakkara said. "The evidence and altitude made it hard to make a decision about what it was."
The Tigers have carried out nine attacks with their fleet of Czech-made, single-engine planes, and so far Sri Lanka's air force jets have been unable to intercept them.
The jets are based far from the war zone near the capital Colombo, and the Tigers tend to fly their planes low enough to avoid radar.
Navy fast attack boats have set up a heavy blockade off the northeastern shoreline around Mullaittivu, the last major town the Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam (LTTE) still hold, to keep Prabhakaran and other top Tiger commanders from fleeing.
Last week, the army's commander, Lieutenant-General Sarath Fonseka said Prabhakaran may have fled the island already and could be hiding somewhere in southeast Asia, where the Tigers have supporters and had run weapons-smuggling operations.
Local media reported intelligence intercepts indicated that foreign countries may be plotting to help him escape by submarine. The countries involved were not named and Reuters was unable to substantiate those reports.
Fonseka has said he hopes to finish the ground war by mid-April. The Tigers are now cornered in about 450 square km (175 sq miles) of the Indian Ocean island's northeastern jungles.
Aid groups say 230,000 people are trapped in the war zone. Rights watchdogs say the Tigers will not let them leave and force them to fight or build defences. The LTTE denies that. Around 2,000 refugees have escaped the war zone since last week.
Foreshadowing the kind of hit-and-run attacks many expect to continue even if the army routs the Tigers, two people were killed and 11 wounded in a blast on Wednesday in the formerly LTTE-held city of Batticaloa.
Police blamed the LTTE, who could not be reached for comment.
Ananda-USA,
Our mechanized armor make short charges now and then to perturb the enemy and then attack them, but these where not thunder-runs in the context of US forces. These usually makes the enemy to panic and open up from their hidden locations. But these are/were very limited and cautiously done (so far), and were not anywhere near the scale and frequency that the US forces used.
"This is an application the "blitzkreig" technique, perfected by the Germany Army, devoid of the enveloping strategy."
Thought there are similarities between Blitzkreig and thunder runs, they are rather different, but not in the one that you highlight.
Blitzkreig is a joints-arms effort. For instance, an Airforce can be deployed to cut off the command control structure (eg. take out communications) and then an infantry/mechanized unit can be sent to take down a nerve center (or a place of vital importance, such as a strategic town) that is in deep enemy space and hold it.
Blitzkreig is useful as it avoids Pyrrhic warfare (warfare where a lot of structural damage occurs to enemy structures including civilian structures and the environment). So in Blitz the invader can make use of of the resources that are left relatively unharmed. In Blitz, in the context of WWII, usually an entire unit of battle tanks are sent through a single center of gravity and this column, after breaking through the heavily fortified FDLs forge through the relatively undefended deep enemy space to reach its goal (primary target) and then hold on to it. Later, infantry units mop up smaller enemy pockets that lie between the primary objective and the the initial FDL.
Thunder-runs were done, in the context of operation shock-and-awe in Iraq, only once the US army mechanized division reached the outskirts of Baghdad quite rapidly (this long and rapid charge could be called a blitz type operation, as joint-arms tactics were involved, and they cut through poorly guarded Iraqi dessert quite rapidly leaving many enemy pockets behind). From the outskirts of Bhagdad, thunder-runs began. The Abram MBTs made rapid charges towards the center of the city, drawing fire and exposing enemy fire-bases, and on the way back, took these bases out. This is what is meant really by a Thunder run (you do not hold on to ground - you make a charge and return, taking out enemy positions). And this is what I wanted see our forces do in overcoming the enemy bunds, and gun basses that protected some of the already fallen cities.
When I first talked about thunder runs, I felt sure that people were equating it to Blitz. So here I have explained my point clearly I think.
However, a problem we have is that our armor is nowhere near what US has. The MBTs of US army are the M1-Abram Tanks. Each of these weigh 60 tons has a 120mm cannon, the armor in this tank is so strong that it can withstand attacks from most hand held anti-tank weapons, and even some helicopter fired missiles. It has Armor on all sides. The only Abram that was destroyed, was damaged by an anti-tank mine, but even then, nobody died (I am not sure of the latest stats though).
Though we can do Thunder runs, since LTTE anti-tank weapons are not anywhere near compared to what Sadam threw at the US forces, still we will need to exercise caution.
Yep, thunder runs will do a lot in shocking and awing the enemy (shock and awe is a term coined by Sun Tsu - I usually try to highlight what Sun Tsu said, as we had a blogger called Sun Tsu's disciple - and this excites him I think - heh! heh!), and take down enemy installations.
I am confident that our officers are well trained on doing thunder-runs (as quite a few of them are trained in US and Uk military academies) and a plethora of other poorly known techniques; and will put these into good use where and when it matters.
Certainly, thunder-runs too can be used to perturb and drive the enemy into kill zones.
With 53 and 55 joining in the fray, it is only a matter of time (I hope), that we see some of the methods you mention being carried out.
In Heinz Guderian's Achtung Panzer (which means attention tank) he said that "if tanks succeed , victory will follow" and we can do pretty much the same thing against our enemy who do not have "any" armor.
So far, we have seen only tanks being used in a fire-control role and a supporting role to infantry. I want to see them being used as a breaching force.
i think some of you give way too much regard about how much importance - if any -the new obama administration gives to the tamils, if not the tigers.
i think the US embassy's recent statement on the war is a good indication. it was a huge departure from the usual talk to the LTTE and find a peaceful solution. they basically said wipe out the LTTE and then talk to the democratic Tamil leaders.
Peter mama..
Not interested..thanks any way
ARMY DECLARES NEW SAFE ZONE FOR WANNI CIVILIANS
The Army assuring safety and protection for those civilians in the rest of un-cleared areas requests them to proceed to this SAFE ZONE as soon as possible.
Guys, what do you think about this strategy?
@nisal
kinda timely move..
the assigned area is a very easy area for our guys to operate but steps should be taken to distinguish terras from civis..
Anansa_USA great writings!
Keep them up!
see how tamilnut does it - make die-ass-pora happy.
TAMILNET DOES IT AGAIN -- THE MYTH
Racism and tribal violence
Tribal violence in modern day Sri Lanka dates back to 1871, 44 years before 1915, when violent riots broke out in Jaffna between Tamil people of different castes. Caste violence although less intense than Tamil Nadu has been there in the northern Tamil community. A famous Tamil educationist by the name Arumuka Navalar resigned from the school where he taught because a low caste Tamil boy was admitted to the school.
The Tamil Elam concept was inaugurated by Sir Ponnambalam Arunachalam in 1922. It only gathered justifications thereafter. Demanding racial representation, violence was unleashed in 1931 by the youth in Jaffna who also boycotted peaceful, democratic elections. However, British rulers didn’t entertain any of their racist demands which ought to have been taken as a good precedent of governance by post-Independent rulers.
However, following Independence, non-violent separatist activities resurged. Those were non-violent not by choice but due to the inability to launch violence! Had they used violence, equal or more violence would have quelled it effortlessly.
“Ghandian” principles were wrongfully cited by them to advance separatism. It all went for a six when the so called “Ghandians” failed to criticise the killing of Alfred Duriappa in 1976 by another self-proclaimed Ghandian follower. It also does not explain why “Ghandians” suddenly gave up Ghandian principles in favour of violence, if they were genuine in the first place! Does suicide bombing for which Tamil separatists are world-famous for, evolve from Ghandianism? Not likely.
[more...]
Two Golden articles to read,
http://www.srilankaguardian.org/2009/01/what-really-is-ethnic-problem-of-sri.html
http://www.srilankaguardian.org/2009/01/after-kilinochchi.html
Observer said...
Sri Lanka stops Tiger plane from escaping
By Ranga Sirilal
To me this looks like crap. Too many unconnected and unrealistic nodes.
Was it a some outside activity? Spy planes?
Or do they hide planes in India and trying to land and take him?
Did he really fly away? There is no such track record for us to have detected, attacked or followed the Zlins properly. What guarantees do we have that it did not take off from the Bulath Kela region?
I wrote this on peters blog...
I admire you! I really do. You have undying faith in the LTTE. I don't even have undying faith in myself.
I really feel for you mate. You wake up day in and day out and write these articles. Its people like you that keeps the LTTE alive. LTTE will never die for it has found a place that can live for eternity and that place is PETER'S ASS! LOL
Sujeewa I also think its totally BS. I mentioned that in the comment above the artilce.
I do not know who this Ranga Srilal fellow is . But i think writes to some local newspaper as well.
Ares
Thats a good one.. :-)
it says that the plane flew @ very high altitudes.. maybe it was a RAW spyplane
At high altitudes I wonder how can anyone say that, the plane did not leave the land and beaten back.. As duzz said this is probably a spy plane or one of our own aircrafts.
Yesterday there was a exercise/ drill that got involved a small plane around Colomboy.
Why would anyone want to keep the lights on, if you are on a secret mission ?
it may have well been one of the Zlins flown at high altitude on a testing run or for surveillance. just because they usually fly low does not mean they always fly low. zlins are acrobatic aircrafts designed to reach high altitude at a short distance. if it came from a nearby country it would be impossible for it to fly all this way without re-fueling being a small aircraft.
after yesterday's attempt spoiled by the navy, they may be testing other means of escaping. it seems someone is keen to escape.
I haven't spoken to source in a few days now.
Here is my take on the plane story:
First of all India doesn't have high tech spy planes. They might have dedicated planes with high tech cameras. Kind of like that stuff the Americans used 50 years back!
If the plane was detected by our FACs then it wasn't a high tech plane. FACs radar its that powerful. They would probably spotted a plane.
If it was a RAW plane, it would have flown higher up, far enough not to be spotted or even shot at.
It must have been a LTTE plane. Those planes don't need a runaway to take off.
Yesterday they tried to break through the naval blockade and today they tried the aerial route. I think someone is trying to get out!
In a few days time, we all will get to know what really happen to Prabakaran. Whether he is here or not? Killed or alive? or wounded?
Lets be patient until then.
In a few days time, the remaining areas will be taken and we all will see the fate of Prabakaran. No one will know until then.
Same goes to Pottu Amman, Nadesan and the rest.
Colombo (IANS): The Sri Lankan Navy has detected and fired at a suspicious aircraft flying at a very high altitude off Mullaitivu area, a military official said here on Wednesday.
The official told IANS that navy vessels detected the aircraft with its lights on at around 8.25 p.m. on Tuesday, flying towards Chalai in Mullaitivu district in the country`s northeast.
`It was missing for about 30 minutes. The naval craft (later) detected a suspicious aircraft, maybe the same one, leaving Chalai area,` the official said on the condition of anonymity.
`The Israeli-built Dvora Fast Attack Crafts this time opened fire at the aircraft using long range guns but it disappeared from the sky,` said the official.
The Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam (LTTE) have their Sea Tigers bases and the military installations in Chalai. The rebels also reportedly have an airstrip in Chalai.
According to official sources, the navy has four defence barriers off the coast of Mullaitivu consisting of more than 25 fast attack crafts, offshore patrol vessels and a Special Boat Squadron to cut off the escape routes of LTTE cadres by sea.
Air Force spokesman Wing Commander Janaka Nanayakkara said the air force had also observed a `bright light in the sky over the general area of Mullaitivu` on Tuesday night.
`The air force have observed a very bright light at a very high altitude for short period around 9.00 p.m.,` said Wing Commander Nanayakkara.
The LTTE is believed to be in possession of an unknown number of Czech-built Zlin-Z-143 lightwing aircraft. The low-flying aircraft have carried out dozens of night raids targeting military installations.
Encouraged by the fall of LTTE strongholds one after other in quick successions, the troops have now boxed the rebels into a chunk of forests in Mullaitivu.
With the navy spotting an aircraft flying at a high altitude, questions are being raised if attempts were being made by some outside forces to help the Tamil Tiger leaders to escape from Sri Lanka.
Ares, Panhinda,
It's not possible for the Zlins to take over.
It'll be easily detected if they take them out, because LRRP teams are all over and UAV's are constantly monitoring the small area.
If it's an LTTE Zlin, they will definitely turn the lights-off.
Or all these things including naval clash and air incident can be diversions as well. There might have been an airplane flown with lights off while our guyz hit at the visible one.. So much for the radars..
Ares, Panhinda,
Sorry for the typing mistake.
It should be take-off, not take over.
Observer,
It's really possible.
God knows.
No point of arguing. We will see everything in a few days time.
Puran Appu,
i think SLAF aerial activity is relatively low during the night, even UAVs. this is perhaps why they always chose to fly after dark. i am not sure if SLAF still has night flying capability or if there are limitations. they also say Chalai runway so probably not within LRRP range either.
Naval crafts fired at an unidentified aircraft off Mullaitivu on Tuesday night, forcing the plane to detour and disappear, military sources said.
The craft was initially seen flying towards Mullaitivu around 8.25 and about half an hour later was spotted flying over the sea towards the Fast Attack crafts (FAC), prompting the Navy to fire, the sources said.
The small aircraft had switched off the running lights and thereafter disappeared.
http://www.sundaytimes.lk/cms/article10.php?id=2183
Puran machan,
any idea about the casualty rates these days ?
Panhinda,
They use the beach crafts for night recce. Anyway, this cant be done all the time.
Chalai probably not within LRRP range- True
Say, Prabakaran escaped in a plane. Where is it gonna land? India?
Puran Appu,
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Say, Prabakaran escaped in a plane. Where is it gonna land? India?
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belly land mid sea rendezvous with ship for onward journey most probably malaysia or even oz.
Observer,
Plenty machan. Don't know the figures, but very high.
Something really serious is going on. Thats why the silence. We will see the results in few days.
Main Issue now is to get the civilians out, not to fight with the rats. Casualties are because of the civilians. It's obvious that our guys cant use the maximum fire power. Air Strikes also limited.
They've done the home work, and looks like they started the final battle, Big Day is not far away.
Again today, I heard it's February 4th. Les see how it goes.
testing
I am not an air craft expert. What, I heard from an expert is that, for a sea plane to land on sea, the waters should be calm.
Any idea?
with ship for onward Yes. It's how Balasingham escaped as well.
Sri Lanka fires at intruding aircraft
January 21, 2009 (AFP) - Sri Lanka's military said Wednesday its troops had opened fire on an intruding aircraft off the island's north, where government forces are battling Tamil Tiger rebels.
The unidentified aircraft was detected heading towards the island's northeastern coast near Mullaittivu, the last town under the control of the Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam (LTTE), officials said.
"The aircraft was seen over northern waters and heading towards Mullaittivu district late Tuesday," said a military official who declined to be named.
"Naval vessels in the area had opened fire, but the aircraft had disappeared."
Sri Lanka's air force said it did not believe the plane was a light aircraft of the kind belonging to the LTTE and used in the past for attacks across the island.
"It couldn't have been an LTTE aircraft because what was observed was at a high altitude," said air force spokesman Wing Commander Janaka Nanayakkara.
Tiger rebels carried out their last flying mission in September when they bombed a military base in the north of the island.
Since then, Sri Lanka's army has captured six LTTE jungle airstrips.
Please stop the WAR. STOP KILLIING CIVILIANS
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=HkNVrWUFi8Q
defence wire, please give an update soon if you can. I have read you since you came up on infolanka.com. You are very good so please do not stop. I opened a blogspot account just to tell this thing.
also,
@ rover, some of your kindness to others and your knowledge on different things make me want to read the comment section also. I think some of the other good people are wijayapala, moshedyan sujeewa, rana. Good work. But the way some other people write are very offensive to Tamils, Indians and even sometimes Sinhalese.
Pottu,
You got it right. :))
Even when it was pointed out that the course of action followed by the LTTE would not succeed and that decisive defeat was on the cards, such advice was rejected and spurned by the tigers and their fellow travellers. The dominance of militarist thought within tiger circles and the belief that military victory was the only solution made them disregard well-intentioned advice.
- DBS Jeyaraj
it is common for people to die in a war. It is also common for people who wage war to get killed.
- Jayalalitha (AIDMK)
Observer,
Something really serious is going on today. Casualties are flowing today, after the announcement of the SAFE ZONE.
puran ..
Yes the sea needs to be calm for a sea plane to land , but if they are planning to ditch the plane for good even a land lane like the zlin should be able to land in the ocean . the pilots have to be skilled enough to handle it .
oy civilian. tell the whole story. not just ltte story.
puran appu,
what are the main causes for army injuries? is it APMs, bullet wounds or artillery/mortar shells? did the destroying of 2 of their artillery pieces have an impact?
yes ltte has to release civilians.
Puran and others,
we totally depend on you guys as all the "masters" are silent.
PLEASE PLEASE STOP THE WAR. STOP KILLING CIVILIANS
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=tAoXExf20uY
Civilian. If you really want to save civilian lives, ask LTTP to release them
Ali,
Thank you my Bro.
Looking at Prabakarans size and weight, Do you think that he will fit on to a light plane?
Panhinda,
If Prabakaran is to flee by plane and if the LTTE is having a air strip in Chalai. Prabakaran should go to Chalai right?
Do you think that he will take such a big risk to go to an open area like Chalai?
(Please note that i am just asking this, it's no point arguing about this fat pig fleeing becoz you and I can do nothing about it. Just to know your view Bro.)
Puran,
Good to have you back.
What are the casualties? Which P grade? Are they flowing in from 59th division side or 57th side?
puran, it doens;t have to be Prabarakan. his son is also there. he was in charge of the air wing. may be they want to ship him off to continue the war in the future, who knows.
You really do not need to land, if the fatfig can make a skydive to the sea wearing a floating device, a boat can take him on board.
Even a Zlin without floating gear can land on sea on a one way mission. Near to the landing, the canopy can be released and as soon as the plane lands, the occupants can jump to the sea wearing floating devices. Someone needs to fish them out of the water.
I believe that LTTE would use this method to take fat-pig out of the country.
Else, they would track down to Ampara area on foot through jungles and leave the country through South East seas.
TF -2 liberates Udayarakattukulam tank bund - Mullaittivu
PussyTigers,
Thanks, that explains the casualties Puran mentioned.
panhinda said
"think SLAF aerial activity is relatively low during the night, even UAVs. this is perhaps why they always chose to fly after dark. i am not sure if SLAF still has night flying capability or if there are limitations. they also say Chalai runway so probably not within LRRP range either."
SLAF owns about 20 MI24 hind class helicopter gunships. almost all these can be fitted with night vision 2000 kits and the Mi-35P type gunships come with night capability inbuilt. the Mi-24V/Mi-24N type gunships can be upgraded for night time operations.
dunno about the F7 interceptors though.. but those Mi's are more than enough to gun down a zlin
what are the F7's doing?
FROM TAMILNET
A Sri Lanka Air Force (SLAF) MIG fighter jet was shot in the skies over Vanni on Wednesday, according to initial reports from journalists outside Sri Lanka, who cited a highly placed source in Vanni Sri Lankan Forces Headquarters (Vanni SF-HQ). The Liberation Tigers of Tamileelam (LTTE) officials were not available to comment on the reports.
There were 3 airmen inside the aircraft, according to the reports from the Sri Lankan side.
The Russian built bomber with a "crocodile nose," containing laser rangefinder, is capable of carrying large variety of bombs, unguided rockets, and missiles.
The fighter jet has been used to carry cluster bombs against LTTE and civilian targets in Vanni.
Two of the SLAF Mi-35s are fitted with night vision equipment and are operating 24/7.
See who is keeping eye on to see whether Prabha escapes!
[I will catch Prabha...]
Yeah right Tamilnut, dream on, 3 Airmen inside the aircraft??!! What the hell are Tamilnut referring to? Mig-27s don't have three airmen??!! I think they are referring to a Mi-24. I won't be surprised if we lost a Mi-24 today. Mi-24/35 is referred to as a Crocodile. They are in intense action and unlike the pilots of old, these new guys are willing to take risks. They have provided very effective CAS - hence one of the reasons we are winning.
As I mentioned earlier, LTTP may be trying to get VP out by the TIN PLANE after the injury cased by before.
if SLA advances a bit forward over udayarkattu tank bund (which has now fallen) and cutoff A35 at theravilkulam then vishvamadu becomes isolated and will fall. When LTTPussies withdraw they wouldnt be able to use A34 which means they'd have to use a jungle route. Herding civilians through this route wont be easy. This is important as the reports suggest a large number of civilians are held captive at vishnumadu. That's my two cents.
After vishnumadu only puthu and mulla left.
Go the brave sons of SL!
அம்பாறை மாவட்டம் பொத்துவில் பகுதியில் இன்று தமிழீழ விடுதலைப் புலிகளுக்கும் சிறிலங்கா சிறப்பு அதிரடிப்படையினருக்கும் இடையே நடைபெற்ற நேரடி மோதலில் ஒருவர் கொல்லப்பட்டுள்ளதுடன் இருவர் படுகாயமடைந்துள்ளனர்.
http://tinyurl.com/who-is-watching-Prabha
Panhinda,
From what i heard, Charles Anthony (Son of Prabakaran) fled about a year ago to India. At that time, Nachchikuda and Vidattalitivu was under the LTTE. He had gone as a Fisherman, i heard. This is from an Intelligence Source. I can mention this now becoz it happen sometime back.
even before I said anything, Pottu said [Looks like a couple of monkeys Civilian + Mahinda are about to invade this blog. Welcome monkeys, we are desperately missing the monkeys after our resident peelamists monkeys (except Bhairav, who is a slightly evolved primate) has deserted us en-masse. You are most welcome here, but don't be surprised if we shred you to pieces.
Guys, get ready for some monkey hunting.]
this shows your class man.
Panhinda,
Destroying 2 guns wont make an huge impact Bro. They have plenty of Ari Guns and 81mm Heavy Mortar Guns, which they brought in during the Cease Fire period. (Army commander mentioned about this in his interview with ITN)
Regarding the main causes for casualties.
Seriously i don't know. It didn't came into my mind to ask. Next time when i speak to my source i'll ask and will let you know.
But, For sure plenty of casualties should be due to APMs and booby traps. When the area is limited, the LTTE can really lay mines and booby traps.
Few days back, a woman LTTE bomb expert was captured by the 57 Division. She is suppose to be a Lt. Colonel of the LTTE and in-charge of laying mines and booby traps.
There should be casualties from Ari and Mortar too for sure.
In Chilawatte, where the LTTE is really holding the 59 Division, it's said that the LTTE have fixed the GPMG's and 23mm and 30mm HMGs to their bunkers.
Earlier, they were fixed to their Sea tiger boats.
As defenceWire said sometime back even when off targeted, it can still cause injury.
It's face to face combat now, use of MBRL, Arti, Motar and Air Strikes are very limited. So casualties are there as expected.
Mariyakade,
Corrected. Sorry about it.
Moda Peter,
Your source is http://www.puthinam.com/full.php?2b1VrMe0dGi6K0ecMG6y3b4I6G94d2c4h3cc2IoX3d424TO2b030Qr3e
LOL!
Thanks Puran ;-) I know you understand why I said it.
I read some reports that LTTE is using Kerala as the base posing as fishermen.
Kerala seems to have very relaxed laws in monitoring fishermen.
our guys are gradually softening up the terras in chilawatte. Thats what SF said earlier. they are not looking for easy ground gains.
and keeping hardcore terras occupied at the mula front will certainly ease up situation in the other fronts.
i heard that our snipers are doing one hell of a job..
go Lanka!!!
whats that peter saying about a terra attck in pottuwil and one dying?
Mariyakade,
I think tamilnut is been updated by someone like Mahen now.
Just add some lines to what he hears. The Plug is somewhere else, and just a loudspeaker. No Idea about anything.
duzz,
True Bro. They cant hold it for too long.
I heard that our guys cut-offed a supply route from the North of the lagoon, don't know what happened after that. They, Must have withdrawn.
Hello peter. So will you count miles to kilinochi and get killed or be Srilankan?Same time we will call you as Peter brother.
Pottu,
All grades from all Divisions Bro.
PussyTigers,
Thanks for keeping us posted about Udayarakattukulam.
puran machan,
the guys who cut off that route must be forward domination elements. they maybe still operating in the area taking down targets but im still wondering why a main assault force is not being directed there.. but who am i to decide.. maybe 591 needs to soften up the terras at chillawatte a bit more.
maybe theres a "divine" plan being put to action by "grand chess master".. lets wait and see what happens..
the only tactical importance of mula is only its shoreline. and hastily concentrating troops on those shore/marsh areas will sharply increase out casualty numbers cuz the terrain is infested by anti personnel mines and IED's (look how much time the 55th is taking to clear out the chundikulam shoreline)
velluprabhakaran,
F7 s are been operated from Katunayake, and it shares the runway with BIA.
I have seen them coming from the Air Force base to one corner from the other corner slowly and then taking-off. So it takes time.
SLAF should have it's own base and runway to handle it's supersonic jets.
May be they will develop one Kurumba Atti Park in the future.
Dear friends,
Is this true? TamilNUT reports Sri Lankan fighter jet reported missing in Northern frontier. Please let us know if u know something about this..
Thanks
duzz bro,
maybe theres a "divine" plan being put to action by "grand chess master".. lets wait and see what happens..
Well said.
Yes Bro. Definitely.
It doesn't looks like 55 is really moving at the moment. Looks like they are maintaining an active defense. And it must be really difficult to cross the lagoon.
55 must be missing it's twin brother 53 in a big way.
Iqbal Athas was the source for TamilNet MIG story
He is in Thailand?
Iqbal Athas...
No wonder.
Does Athas work for CIA?
Last time he went into hiding, it was the Americans who managed to bring him back.
Peter,
Your woman is really beautiful. Your wife?
duzz,
Macho thanks for quick answer and glad to know that ia a crap.
Iqbal Athas??? Where is this so called war expert?? No "situation report" for two weeks now.
Thanks
Nope :-( That I wish.
Moda Bandas might find this interesting
http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/meast/01/21/iran.bbc.persian/index.html
puran,
furthermore the only left for sun goat to escape is via sea and to do that open shore line is essential maybe the terras have calibrated some of their guns towards the shoreline too.. and the narrow strip of land is hard to navigate for our infantry armour too.
and about athas,
when all is going like clockwork for the SLA and things are going all wrong for the ltters nothing is left for him to "improvise" about. no major blunders and no debacles..
word is.. hes left the country..
this is getting weird... is this real peter?
BBC says "BBC's Ethirajan Anbarasan is in Colombo". He is the man behind many LTTE biased reports.
If I were there in Colombo, I would be glad to pay a visit to him and ask why he is filing false reports glorifying terrorists!
Peter,
The gal on the picture is Tamil actress, Kiriya?
Maybe you can give him the Lasantha treatment?
Kiriya?
What film was she in?
Sujeewa Kokawala,
No Idea Bro. Will try to find out.
Challai story is similar to Chilawatte. Isn't it?
Another bottleneck.
When 55 and 53 broke through, LTTE started building their defences in between Chalai and Chundikkulam. This area is heavily mined. It's the only area where LTTE can hold the push from North for the moment.
It's unlikely that there will be a major push by 55 for the moment. Looks like 58 is clearing the area from the main land.
It'll be important for 55 to be defensive than offensive for the moment, isn't it?
BBC keep pushing to give some 'legitimacy' to LTTE..
They now increasingly keep using the phrase "The rebels had established a de facto state squeezed between government-controlled Jaffna in the north and the rest of the country."..
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/7842612.stm
im pretty sure that the guy is being kept on close watch.
i wonder if theres any system in place for these guys to get red flagged from BIA
You can laugh at Athas, but out of all so called Sri Lankan journalists he is the only one who has high level contact with foreign intelligence services.
DBS used to work for RAW but it looks like that have sidelined him over the years.
"Maybe you can give him the Lasantha treatment?"... no no .. I am not advocating that!
I really like to ask the question face to face.. that's all.
If LTTE got to know the whereabout of this guy, they will give the same Lasantha treatment to this guy. So, we have to 'protect' him. Else, we would be in trouble.
Moda Bandas actually think complaining to the BBC is worthwhile?
The network is funded by British tax payers to further British interests. It doesn't give a damn about truth or sentiments. It'll publish/broadcast whatever is in the country's interest.
Do you seriously think that Britons waste their money to entertain Tamils and Sinhalese via BBC Tamil / Sinhala?
[What film was she in?]
No idea! I hardly watch Tamil movies.
duzz,
Yes Bro.
If they loose one of the tips of the lagoon. It becomes Impossible.
IT's 2330hrs SL time.
Good night friends. See you all tomorrow.
Vaaranam Aayiram is worth a watch, although half the dialogue is in English.
In fact, I watched "Vaalvei Mayam" few days back, oh man, Sridevi rocks!
It is no good watching Tamil movies these days, all are masala flops.
Of all the English language weeklies, Sunday Leader had the lowest readership.
Lasantha is another useless “famous when dead” character.
Except, of course, the Chena production Lakbima.
c ya puran macho..
i gtg too.. driving upto colombo on the A6.. anyone wanna hike? LOLzz
gn8 peeps
True,
No new films can compare to 70/80s.
Moondrampirai and Varumaiyin Niram Sigapau are also good SriDevi, Kamal combos.
Peter...
[Moda Bandas actually think complaining to the BBC is worthwhile?
The network is funded by British tax payers to further British interests. It doesn't give a damn about truth or sentiments. It'll publish/broadcast whatever is in the country's interest.
Do you seriously think that Britons waste their money to entertain Tamils and Sinhalese via BBC Tamil / Sinhala?
]
For once you said something sensible. But cut that word Bandas and include 'gullible'.
True,
Some Tamils complain to the BBC as well.
What can one do?
I can take the water to the horse, but can't can't make it drink
More info on the plane story
It was a cargo plane that flew low over Mualitheevu. It was then that the Dvora picked up radar signature.
Talk is that it air dropped something, suspected to be anti-air craft missiles.
Somehow, Athas has got wind of this story and hypothesised that the Tigers have shot down a MIG because they've just got hold of the capacity.
[Do you seriously think that Britons waste their money to entertain Tamils and Sinhalese via BBC Tamil / Sinhala? ]
It applies to Obama too and I believe he is another big time phony, maybe, little upgraded version of CR.
Obama will be whiter than white.
Only thing is he will shift slightly from Bush's open confrontation policy.
Probably keep US out of foreign intervention and concentrate on building up the economy.
For Tamils it is less about what Obama will do and more about what he won't do.
Bush admin was actively working against he LTTE, e.g the entrapment of Canadian Tamils in the SAMs case. I don't think Obama will waste CIA/FBI resources on such unproductive activities.
What is the possibility of Prabha using an under water weasel like a sub and fleeing the baby brigade force? There has to be another boat somewhere to pick him up at deep sea.
Our Navy was trying to shoot our own craft that was dropping leaflets informing the civilians about new 'No-Fire' zones.
Tamilnet is reporting it has LTTE shooting down an SLAF craft.
They may have thought that the leaflets as part of the craft.
Peter Ponna vesa, Bahirav all summa vuka diaspoora
Did you vuka your summa today?. If not go, hurry do it?. You illigitimate SOB of IPKF still support your dream of ponna eelam go fck u summa. Your are the real enemies of innocent tamil people. You dig your own people graveyard by supporting LTTP ponnavesa. You think you are right by supporting ponna vesa pirbha.
That mofcker fighting for so-called tamil liberation. 30 yrs what have you people gain so far?
What LTTP ponna vesas let you to see go and see thousand of graveyard of mofcking tiger ponnas in north and east.
You live in happily with your family in foreign land while innocent poor children of tamil peasents going to die for dream of mofcking ponnavesa pirbha.
Cures of all the tri-nations comes to everyone who drop a cent to fcking eelam cause and all your generations should vanish in streets of where ever they live.
guys,
Any connection with this unknown aircraft reported(if its not one of ours) and the visit of US pacific fleet officials/aircrafts ?
Velu's 'cat's paw' project is fast reaching its natural conclusion, whether he choose to fight or flee.
If he escapes, the demoralized gang members are prone to be captured or killed wholesale. Velu cannot survive long in any country in this time of the history.
If he chooses to fight, his chances of fighting and winning against mighty SLDF is zero in a zillion. He would be sure to be found and killed.
From whatever the angle one looks at this... the days of the Tamil terrorists are numbered.
Sri Lanka having seen hugh degree of violence can certainly manage some sparodic 'light' version of the terror.
Let's prepare ourselves to give a fitting 'Goodbye' to someone's long cat's paw....
Save some money for the celebrations... but never forget the troops and the families who got us there.
[What LTTP ponna vesas let you to see go and see thousand of graveyard of mofcking tiger ponnas in north and east.
You live in happily with your family in foreign land while innocent poor children of tamil peasents going to die for dream of mofcking ponnavesa pirbha]
Well said Sungod.
What a slap delivered to the face of the Tamil Diaspora by Velu... by keeping civilians in hostage under appalling conditions?
What wrong these people did to Velu or TD?
Shame... shame...
Gringo,
No doubt, LTTE is well and truly on the mat and referee is counting. SF would deliver what he had promissed.
But, I have no idea when these sakkiliyas start to think they are infact Sri Lankan citizens rather than Tamil Nadu scum.
They can't think for themselves we need to convert them. That is the next big thing.
Slightly evolved Primate Bahirav,
I wish you could read Sinhala. If you could, here is an article about tolerance of Buddhists of Sri Lanka,
[Tolerance...]
One thing is for sure..!
Every Dvora and OPV stationed in Mullative Theater requires equipping themselves with MANPADs (Anti-Aircraft Missiles).
This would put an end to Kurumbatti antics.
Saman,
[They can't think for themselves we need to convert them. That is the next big thing.
]
Mate, first we have to FREE the civilians from the grips of LTTE. They NEVER had neither FREEDOM nor SAY under the LTTE or for that matter under the so-called 'Tamil' leaders. Did they?
Their voice is FORCEFULLY silenced and taken over by the Tamil Diaspora!
HOW COME?
Once they are liberated (the difficult part) they are FREE... the Tamil Diaspora would be gone with the wind. East is a good start.
After all, what solutions or amends Sri Lankans should offer to CITIZENS of Canada, Germany, Switzerland et al? They have their own governments there.
Our leaders will be Sri Lankan, not 'Tamil' or other... because all aspirations, self-determination, struggles, grievances and what-not... become INSTANT DUST... IN FRONT OF MOTHERLANKA'S INTERESTS.
Where would the first black US president be today… if he did not put the USA’s interests first, in every step of his quest?
I sincerely hope that no “human shields” die in any explosion near the Army HQ.
Come to think of it, what would “human shields” be doing within close proximity of a military installation anyway
Noway, moda Lanka would never build armed forces head quarters in buzzing civilian areas
Where is Rana?
Moda Lanka, at this hour of need, calls upon you to visit DefenceLK
Bro Samana,
Once the war is over and LTTE leadership is eliminated:
The biggest problem Tamil peasants will be the mistrust and that has to be eradicated ASAP by treating them with care and compassion. Sinhala community and welfare organisations must show genuine interest on their well being and return to normalcy.
Tamil peasants do not need any conversions from anybody. What they really need is to lead normal life with their day to day work. They have suffered enough under LTTE fascist regime that imposed heavy taxes, forced recruitment, forced labour and restricted mobility. If SLG can take these restrictions away and let them to return to their traditional lands freely, they will look after them selves.
SLG can get help from international community to make their habitats free from mines. SLG should also help them with development of infrastructure in the areas of health, education and transport. Providing soft loans to build their farming and industrial activities will enhance their contributions to the national economy.
In short the best thing SLG can do is keep away from forcing them to do things they don’t want do and respect them as Sri Lankans without prejudice.
Finally everybody should try to forget last 25 years as quickly as possible.
However, there will be a minority within Tamils who will cry for more and more but silent majority will not listen again for long time to come.
Guys,
Last night our boys managed to keep ongoing cricket series with Pakistan alive. Good on them. I think they will pull it off again in the next game.
Peter-pan,
/Bush admin was actively working against he LTTE, e.g the entrapment of Canadian Tamils in the SAMs case. I don't think Obama will waste CIA/FBI resources on such unproductive activities./
Obama or no Obama, presidents of America have to work within a well guarded framework of American Interests. They usually become more sharper and focussed in bad economic eras. That is well documented. These interests are well guarded by CIA/FBI.
Obama or no Obama, any president who messed around with AI's would not servive long. Either he/she would be brought to line or taken out.
That is why, Kenady clan did not servive.
So do not count your fucking beans as yet thinking he is in a mood or position to give priority to your Vezapulles fucking Ealam. Especially, going against CIA/FBI.
MR/SF done extremely well in this front too. By developing a fantastic worldwide network within defence/intelegence professionals who respect their achievements while the petty politicians from respective countries who are barking being on the LTTE pay list.
Get out of your shell, come out of the well and read/understand the new world Obama is talking about.
For your information, if you have not read Obama's articles, his ideology for a new world order favour eradicating groups like LTTE. His hypothesis emphasises,
Self respect and self dignity of a race/group/nation of people cannot be guaranteed by so called "freedom fighters" or "freedom struggles". They have never achieved that other than them becoming war loards and cultivating a culture of tyroney. He is critical of existed USA policy in creating and nurturing such groups by USA for their advantage which created anit-USA sentiments around the world. he argues, so called liberal movements have only subjugated their own people to untold sufferings missary and marched generations backwords. He also argues that better governance, progress and social order can be achieved by creating cultures where each individuals' rights are placed superior or above that of a group. In short - individual should hell bent for his rights but not franchise it to a "freedom fighter" (extension of trade unionism).
In such a new order "Prabhakarans", "Polpots", "Wijeweeras" would become a thing in the past.
WAKE UP PETER - WAKE UP!!!
kevin,
i recon it would rather be a AN-12 not a An-32. AN-12 has a MASSIVE range.
sometime back i posted some evidence of someone trying to transport something from a location in russia to kili. this distance can be covered by a AN-12. it is very much possible a trip the other way, not to russia, but somewhere with equal distance.
LOL@Saman
amnesia over all words that preceded that quote?
All welcome
Calculator Moda
guys,
the plane incident is covered in propoganda BS of both sides.
1. if the SLN attack damaged/destroyed or at least caused to damage/destroy (when landing) a suspected tiger plane, toiletnet will try to calm down the die-arse-pora by cooking up a story that will counter the negative effect.
2. if an SLAF plane went down due to LTTE fire, MoD will try to play down the negative publicity by claiming to have shot at a suspected tiger plane.
3. anyway a MIG-27 cannot carry 3 ppl!!!
civilian,
"PLEASE PLEASE STOP THE WAR. STOP KILLING CIVILIANS"
stop talking bullshit.
take a long term view instead of this foolish short term view. if we stop the war we will have to continue to live with terrorists. we don't want to. we don't have to. why should we live in peace with terrorists? can anyone live in peace with cancer???
only after annihilating them we can live in peace.
civilian casualties are part of EVERY war after the 19th century. in MOST (may be ALL) wars MORE civilians have died than fighters. SL situation is much much better.
Rana/Gringo bros,
I will not dispute any of you said mates as I want that to happen. I think GoSL is doing this in East.
Please do not wrongly intepret,
Sakkiliyas = Tamil peasants or Tamils masses under LTTE boot.
Here "Sakkiliyas" meant Tamil politic which worship Tamil nadu. They are the people who drive this ordinary tamils who likes to live in harmoney.
Also "conversion" I am refering here is targetting those fucking scum (I hope they are a minority among tamils)
Read in conjunction with my response to Peter-pan and you will see what I mean.
Moshe Dyan said...
civilian casualties are part of EVERY war after the 19th century. in MOST (may be ALL) wars MORE civilians have died than fighters.
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Take note pansies. Calculator Moda says no more terrorist whining.
Moshe,
Fully agree with you. Fate of civilians is squarely on Piranha’s hands. He must act now and free them, if he has genuine interest at well being of Tamils. SLDF is doing every thing within their power to protect civilians while attacking terras. Terrorists must be eliminated ASAP to achieve speedy recovery of peace for all.
Guys,
Navy nitwits have done it again, they shot at our own aircraft. As someone else pointed out, the aircraft was dropping leaflets. Somehow Tamilnut connected this with the shooting down of a Mig (which did not happen).
Dieasspora buggers, please educate Tamilnut on a invention called the Internet or Wikipedia, tell them to look up Mig 27 and Mi 24 before they publish stories.
Oh yeah, almost forgot, that third Mig airman was the one dropping the leaflets, he was strapped to the fuselage and went out dropping leaflets from the bucket.
Forgot to say, the aircraft was dropping leaflets in relation to the new safe zone.
The Air Marshall is incandescent with rage, SLN is highly embarrassed. Ever heard of plane turning back to Sri Lanka when coming under fire? Any nitwit pilot would flee even further, not turn back to where the fire originates from!
SLN is the weak link in the current operations. Thats why DW stopped writing :-)
Yes, blame the gay sailors for all woes.
Samana,
OK, bro.
HE the president of SL has already taken steps to create 03 villages for 30000 IDPs. These villages will bear names of three noble Tamil leaders who has contributed to the unity of SL. One is late Kadiragamer.
I am very pleased with SLA on treating Tamil peasants with kindness and compassion. SLG is also showing signs of winning majority of Tamil hearts.
The way to go forward!
Lol@Rana
Reminds me of the moda Banda soldiers who went and had tea with my grandmother after she threw a grenade at them.
Found Pahinda on FaceBook
Lol
Only 29 frnds, and none of them are worth a 2nd look.
rana/saman,
of course. the war was NEVER against tamils.
if the war was against tamils, SLAF would be bombing colombo not vanni!!!!
SL belongs to tamils as much as it belongs to sinhalas, muslims, etc., etc.
but SLG cannot win MOST tamils in the short run. we must accept that. tamil politicians unloaded loads of crap on them for over 80 years. reversing it is not easy. and MOST tamil politicians make it further difficult.
ethnic integration is the way to go. but when we do that MOST tamils would be against it for the above reason. but their children will love us for doing it decades later.
He might be a 40-year-old virgin.
On a Thunder Run down A35
Rover said...
Our mechanized armor make short charges now and then to perturb the enemy and then attack them, but these where not thunder-runs in the context of US forces.
Yes. I recognize that purpose in the use of SLA armor.
Blitzkreig is a joints-arms effort. For instance, an Airforce can be deployed to cut off the command control structure (eg. take out communications) and then an infantry/mechanized unit can be sent to take down a nerve center (or a place of vital importance, such as a strategic town) that is in deep enemy space and hold it.
Yes, I fully recognize that Blitzkrieg is a joint-arms effort developed by the German Army to circumvent the static killing machine of trench warfare in WW-I. I had written a post at this blog on that very subject analyzing the attack by the German Army against the French Maginot line, in which paratroopers were dropped behind the Maginot line to take the fortifications in the narrow breakthrough front in the rear.
Nevertheless, the primary force used, in addition to bombing from air, in a blitzkrieg type attack on land is armor, that gives what is in effect armor protected highly-mobile artillery. The primary intention is to breakthrough a narrow front into the soft rear areas where you can cut supply lines, disrupt command and communications to a great depth behind the lines, and isolate strongpoints.
Often, two or more such thrusts can be coordinated in double pincer movements to completely cut off and isolate frontline units of the defending army in an ENVELOPING MOVEMENTS. If you dispute ENVELOPMENT as a last stage operation of blitzkrieg, then we differ on this point.
The idea behind my previous (just after the fall of Pooneryn, I think)"Maginot line" post referred to above was to use A FEW OF THE BLITZKRIEG ELEMENTS in an attack on the Paranthan/ Kilinochchi earthbund fortifications, particularly the airlifting of troops by helicopter into the rear of the fortifications to attack the defenders from the rear.
Thunder-runs were done, in the context of operation shock-and-awe in Iraq, only once the US army mechanized division reached the outskirts of Baghdad quite rapidly (this long and rapid charge could be called a blitz type operation, as joint-arms tactics were involved, and they cut through poorly guarded Iraqi dessert quite rapidly leaving many enemy pockets behind). From the outskirts of Bhagdad, thunder-runs began. The Abram MBTs made rapid charges towards the center of the city, drawing fire and exposing enemy fire-bases, and on the way back, took these bases out. This is what is meant really by a Thunder run (you do not hold on to ground - you make a charge and return, taking out enemy positions). And this is what I wanted see our forces do in overcoming the enemy bunds, and gun basses that protected some of the already fallen cities.
Yes, we fully agree on the above, particularly that in Thunder Runs the intention is not to hold territory but to destroy the enemy on the move. However, contrary to this general definition, at the end of the 2nd Thunder Run, the US commander of the Spartan Brigade requested to be allowed to occupy and stay in Baghdad; and he did. BTW, if it was you that proposed a Thunder Run earlier at this blog, I apologize for not citing you..I knew someone had...but couldn't find the post. As I recall, at that time, Paranthan/Kilinochchi had not fallen, so the LTTE earthbund FDL had not been breached, and the LTTE command structure was not sufficiently degraded. As such, I thought a Thunder Run was premature at that time. But now, with both Div55 and Div53 available, access to route A35 attained, and LTTE command structure in disarray, it makes sense to do a Thunder Run down A35.
However, a problem we have is that our armor is nowhere near what US has. The MBTs of US army are the M1-Abram Tanks. Each of these weigh 60 tons has a 120mm cannon, the armor in this tank is so strong that it can withstand attacks from most hand held anti-tank weapons, and even some helicopter fired missiles. It has Armor on all sides. The only Abram that was destroyed, was damaged by an anti-tank mine, but even then, nobody died (I am not sure of the latest stats though).
Agreed. Although our tanks are nowhere as well protected as US Army M1-A1's the LTTE weapons are not in the same league either. As you point out the LTTE does not have armored vehicles that can take on our tanks. Nor do they have anti-tank artillery firing on flat trajectories, or shoulder-fired high-terminal-velocity guided missiles. What they do have are 130 and 150 mm artillery firing HE rounds in indirect fire, and 80 and 130mm mortars for indirect fire. They also have shoulder-fired armor-piercing RPG's that can destroy our tanks because of their shaped-charge warhead technology. BTW, the M1-Abrams tanks have Israeli developed externally-mounted ceramic plate armor that is quite effective against armor-piercing shaped-charge warheads, but not against the latest depleted-uranium kinetic warheads.
Certainly, thunder-runs too can be used to perturb and drive the enemy into kill zones.
With 53 and 55 joining in the fray, it is only a matter of time (I hope), that we see some of the methods you mention being carried out.
So far, we have seen only tanks being used in a fire-control role and a supporting role to infantry. I want to see them being used as a breaching force.
Yes. We are in agreement in general, with the sole exception of ENVELOPMENT as a final step in Blitzkrieg breakthroughs...no big deal.
Again, my apologies for not citing you by name as the author of the earlier post on a Thunder Run.
How come Praba is so fat and all IDPs are so skinny. If pictures are worth thousand words, all we have to look at is Praba and IDPs.
[http://www.defence.lk/orbat/Default.asp]
I can confirm of a LTTE coolie fallen dead... after accidentally pressing that dreaded 'play' button at the right top.
He was warned not to read punnakku... but...
Defence Column still posting links to links.
I do pity your pathetic life.
A blogger’s explanation to his little son on his arrival to the family:
"Well, I used to chat with ur Mom & V got together in a chat room on YAHOO. Then I set up a date via e-mail with ur mom & V met at a cyber-cafe. V sneaked into a secluded room, where ur mother agreed to a download from my hard drive. As soon as I was ready to upload, V discovered that neither one of us had used a firewall, but it was too late to hit the delete button."
"Six weeks later your mom sent me an instant message saying that her operating system was showing signs of unauthorized program activity from a self extracting file which had implanted itself in her BIOS. Then nine months later a little Pop-Up appeared and said 'u've Got Male"
Lol
Funny joke but mega neek
Going home now
'till tomorrow
Peter Ponnadurai
Someone ask you is it your wife on ur profile. As a old hawk I dont think you will get a such a wife. It must be ur daughter.
My doubt is how come u have a such beautiful girl with white skin. Did you send your wife to sacrifice her virginity to Norway cocksbehalf of your beloved Vesa ponna Pirbha.
That could be the most obvious reason she is such a nice lady. Is ur all kids are same or different. Perhaps u hv even send ur wife to Eritrea. Next one could be black dumb.
Better for you so keep o going for shopping for Pirbha ponna. Ur next child will be Indonesian type or Malaysian.
I depart from the world's leading research and analysis institution
known only as DW
the mystery plane.........
the DM report gives the suspected path and says from the time it was spotted by the northern SLN ships to eastern ships, it took 30 miutes.
the ditance it travelled = 150km
time = 0.5 hrs
speed = 300 km/h
this is higher than the speed of a zlin. the altitude also doesn't add up.
but speed is low for a plane traveling at high altitudes. UNLESS it landed (not likely) or stayed over the uncleared area for sometime b4 leaving.
the only place a certain someone going to find a woman like the one on his display picture is from his porn collection on his computer :)
Aircraft hangar recovered
Or, to put it another way, a libertarian has been defined as a person who believes the police and army are a criminal gang, but that in the absence of police and army liberators become criminals to libertarians.
Even when war is not the answer it certainly highlights the question in a way that is difficult to ignore the answer - Pansilu
this is boring........ where is DW, Puran, Vajira???
All we have here is people trying to find new ways to kiss some time.........
For those who use the term 'BORING' for not seeing an update...
1) You have an addiction.
2) You guys are selfish
3) What should be the feeling for those who are at the front line if you are bored without news?
People don't have to die to keep some of us entertained.
I am here now..so, don't fcuk with me boy...
:)) :)) :))
OaO Asithri
Sorry, that was meant for LTTE Peter Ponnaya...
:)) :)) :))
OaO Asithri
Peter Ponnaya
Heylo LTTE moterfucker…wow!...
I normally don’t read your posts…but I must say this time you got me…not with your usual nonsensical verbiage, but with that picture…yes, wow!
Yes, who the fcuk is that…is that your whoring wife (of course for the “noble Tamileelam struggle what else?) or is it your whoring daughter…may be it even could be your whoring grandma…either way, LTTE mf I am hooked…give me just one chance to go AC/DC with her and I might even change sides who knows uh?
LMSSAO!!! Truly LMSSAO!!!
OaO Asithri
ThougtfulG
[this is boring....All we have here is people trying to find new ways to kiss some time]
True….
Not only is the boredom driving me to “kiss time” it is almost driving me to “kiss the enemy” LMSSAO!!!…I just asked LTTE Peter Ponnaya to allow me “have a go” and enjoy AC/DC music with his wife/mother/daughter/granny….
Aha well…let me see how I can cut this boredom in the mean time…
Got it!
Here are some beautiful scenic pictures of SL that hopefully will bring back some nostalgia and cut your boredom…
http://defence.lk/new.asp?fname=20080627_03
OaO Asithri
Thanks Puran for yesterdays info !
mariyakade .
WTF mate - why wouldnt the navy know that such an aircraft was out an about . I dont understand why the Air marshall was not incandescent with rage about his own people not coordinating with the navy . The direction the craft was headed is not really any indication if it is friend or foe IMHO .
also any confirmation about the FAC story . All I get is damages and 2 sailors dead . Nothing about a commander at all
Vesapille was captured and taken to the nearest camp for questioning:
Q- Name?
A- Velupille Pirabaharan.
Q- S*x?
A- six to ten times a week.
Q- No, no... I mean, male or female?
A- Male, female, sometimes pigs.
Q- Holy cow!
A- Yes, cow, sheep, goats, animals in general.
Q- But isn´t that hostile?
A- Horse style, doggy style, any style!
Q- Oh dear!
A- No, no! no Deers they run too fast! :-))
SLN shooting at a SLAF craft ....wow!
I did not know the WAR was 100% over where we Poras could have some fun fighting amongst ourselves!!! LMSSAO!!!
This is a RW/LTTE canard...yes, this is not to say there have not been "friendly fire accidents" in this campaign (like in any other war), but to say it happened yesterday is nothing but - cunning RW/LTTE propaganda or simply put, Tomfoolery by a band of idiots!!!
Little do these fools know about the sophisticated "intel via dedicated channels and even then via encrypted code" that transmits between our Trivida-hamuda via the nerve centre(s) in Colombo prior to any decisive actions/incursions by any one entity!!!
:)) :)) :))
OaO Asithri
High Flying Aircraft, Observed for 30 mins, but Not Shot Down!
Sri Lanka Navy fires at unidentified aircraft, report says
Wednesday, January 21, 2009, 15:02 GMT, ColomboPage News Desk, Sri Lanka.
....officials are speculating whether the LTTE is receiving outside help to rescue their leaders.
Jan 21, Colombo: The Sri Lanka Navy has fired at a suspicious aircraft apparently leaving a LTTE stronghold in the Mullaitivu jungles, a news agency reported today.
Citing Sri Lankan military officials the Indo Asian News Service reported that navy vessels detected the aircraft with its lights on at around 8.25 p.m. Tuesday, flying towards Chalai in Mullaitivu district where the LTTE maintains Sea Tiger bases and a suspected airstrip.
The naval vessels have detected the suspicious aircraft leaving the area at high altitude after about 30 minutes and fired upon it.
“The Israeli-built Dvora Fast Attack Crafts this time opened fire at the aircraft using long range guns but it disappeared from the sky,” an official was quoted by the news agency.
The LTTE is known to be in possession of at least four Czech-built Zlin-Z-143 light wing low-flying aircraft. Since the one sighted by the Navy was flying at a high altitude, the officials are speculating whether the LTTE is receiving outside help to rescue their leaders.
To me, this looks like an effort by Tamil Nadu LTTE-supporters to rescue VP.
My question is: Given that 30 mins elapsed between first sighting of this aircraft on radar and it disappearing from radar view, why couldn't SLAF jets be scrambled from the nearest jet-capable airfield in time to shoot it down? Isn't this what we have been "preparing to do" for months now?
Also, if an airstrip was known to exist near Chalai, why was it not placed under 24x7 UAV surveillance?
With the very strong support that Prabhakaran has among many Tamil Nadu leaders, I expect Tamil Nadu to be where VP will get this kind of support from.
He will either go to already prepared safe houses in Tamil Nadu, or to an existing well-prepared LTTE base on a deserted island in the Andaman Islands archipelago. Only a few of the thousands of Andaman Islands are populated, many deserted island are sufficiently large to support an airfield and a small port with a quay. There have been rumors of such a base going back decades to support gun-running from Thailand. It also ties in very well with the ship owning and operating capabilities of the LTTE.
Off of South Africa's east coast, the KwaZulu-Natal sardine run with its hundreds of millions of fish is considered to be one of the marine wonders of the world. If you are lucky enough to go diving there you will find the glorious chaos of a fully developed bait ball. These are created when dolphins work together to shear off a section of the shoal, corral it into a scrum of the size of tennis court, and force it onto the surface. Only then do the other predators appear, making the whole thing go ballistic. The result is an eruption of fin and flesh. Dolphins squeal like sirens as they make strafing runs at the edges. Eight-foot copper sharks thresh their way through the shoal, biting and gulping. Cape fur seals corkscrew up through the middle then flip backward, snapping up fish on the way over. And all the while gannets rain from the sky gobbling up fish.
SLDF has now corralled the terrorist sardines into a scrum of the size of few square miles, and have forced them up to the surface. It’s now time for SLA crack infantry divisions to make strafing runs at the edges. The SLA mechanized armor divisions to smash their way through the terrorist shoal, killing and destroying. The SF crack commando units to corkscrew up through the middle then flip backward, snapping up terrorist head honchos on the way over. And all the while SLAF migs and MI-24s can rain bombs and rockets from sky on the terrorist scrum. Happy hunting predators!
Cheers!
Guys,
DW has broken his own record again. Last time it was 2426 and now 2546!
DWWWWWWW....... where are you?
I am going to hybernation...zzzzz....
Buddhists in Maharashtra support Sri Lanka
Maharashtra Population= 97 million
Buddhist Percentage= 20-25%
Buddhist Population = 19.4-24.25 million!
Indian Buddhists say:
Make Lanka terrorism free
**Over 200,000 Indian Buddhists attend conference
**A Sri Lanka-India Friendship Circle
**Development process threatens mankind and nature
The All India Buddhist Assembly adopted a resolution calling for the total eradication of all forms of terrorism from Sri Lanka and the entire SAARC region at its 22nd annual convention held in Maharastra, India on January 10 and 11.
This was disclosed by JHU Parliamentary Group Leader Ven. Aturaliye Ratana Thera at a press conference at the National Library and Documentation Board auditorium yesterday.
Ven. Ratana Thera who led the Sri Lanka delegation to the convention, said more than 200,000 Buddhists from all parts of India attended this conference. Another 25,000 people professed Buddhism at this convention.
He said Indians belonging to the Shakya and Dalit class were professing Buddhism in large numbers at present.
Ven. Ratana Thera said they also adopted a program to set up a Buddhist Education Institute on a 11-acre plot in Maharastra which has a population of over 80 million of which more than 25 per cent were Buddhists. At this convention, they also founded a Sri Lanka-India Friendship Circle under his Chairmanship.
Ven. Upagupta Thera of Maharastra was appointed secretary while a 31- member Executive Committee representing all Indian States was also appointed.
Ven. Ratana Thera who delivered the keynote address at this convention, said the development process in the world which was centred round Europe and USA later was now crumbling threatening the very existence of mankind and nature.
Global warming had become the most pressing problem in the world today. The main contributory factor for this situation was aggressive and greedy development policy launched by Europe. Today glaciers were getting melted submerging islands and causing floods and landslides. On the other hand forest fires were spreading causing desertification, he said.
“The crisis resulting from this development which exploited the resources of the present generation cannot be overcome by a community or country single handed. We cannot overcome this crisis by going back to that comprador system which built castles in the air and laid emphasis on unlimited consumption of meat without concern for animals and plants.
The whole world today needed a new concept based on love and compassion which believed in the existence of nature. That is why Buddhism based on human values was needed to console the whole world,” he said.
Gotymbara
[My cousin was the commander of the ill fated Dvora yesterday blasted by lttp mf's. Out of 20, 19 of them have prerished along with that Dvora.Only one guy escaped from that boat. About an hour ago my mother called me from SL told me. He was Lt Commander Abesinghe. He was Lt Commander Abesinghe.From Kandy.Studied in Dharmaraja College Kandy. Graduated from KDA and joined SLN.]
I just got “alerted” to this post from you…
Wow! Wow indeed!
If this is TRUE, then my deepest sympathies are with you…just like I see many many patriots have offered you the same.
However, pardon my expression, I do smell a bloody rotting rat here…
So, let me delineate my concerns as follws:
1) So you are here posting with an anonymous handle, but you have no qualms about giving “exact details” of your connections to your relative (cousin) in the SLN uh? (Mmmm very unusual)
2) Sinhelas do not spell the name as “Abesinghe” but rather as “Abeysinghe” or “Abaysinghe” (Mmmm very unusual)
3) You have given a lot of info about this Lt. Comm “Abesinghe” in this blog (without any regard to his surviving kith & kin’s privacy and/or security in SL) (Mmmm very unusual)
4) Being the "patriot" you claim to be, you still had no problem in publishing this "high SLN casualty story" that even SLDF/MOD did now own up to, especially in a blog where you know LTTE motherfuckers roam (Mmmm very unusual)
5) I called my “sources” in Colombo and no body knew anything about this Dvora being “sunk” or the killing of 19 on board (out of 20)…and yes, although they know of many “Abeysinghes” serving on Dvoras and in other SLN ships, nobody had any info about a certain Lt. Comm “Abesinghe” dieing along with a 18 of his crew members and also his Dvora ship been “sunk”…(Mmmm very unusual)
Wow! Wow indeed!!!
So, let me think of the plausible explanations for this disparate information that we have:
1) your mother gave you a RW-propaganda version when she called you (if your mother did indeed call you, as you say)
2) No “mother” of yours called, but you just dreamed this up whole thing all by yourself – likely after drugs
3) You didn’t need drugs to dream this up as you are indeed another RW/LTTE undercover motherfucker here – pretending to be a “patriot” and now that your “acclimatization” period is up, you are ready to show your true colors (albeit, very carefully still)…
4) Neither of the above, but you just cooked up this to get some attention to yourself (i.e. a childish prank)
So what is the truth Gotymbara….
Yes, as you know, this OaOA pulls no punches in expression…and yes, he has “certain ways” of verifying stories published herein…so let’s have “the truth, nothing but the truth” …
Yes Gotymbara, I'll be waiting...
OaO Asithri
Dalit Buddhists are a large and growing segment of people of the Buddhist faith in India. As such, they are likely to become strong allies of Sri Lanka in the future, and it is important that we learn about their problems and beliefs. Therefore, I present Ambedkar's Vows below for this purpose only; and not to excite a debate on Buddhism among the bloggers at DW.
From Wikipedia.org: Dalit Buddhist Movement
Vows of Ambedkar
After receiving ordination, Ambedkar gave dhamma diksha to his followers. The ceremony included 22 vows given to all new converts after Three Jewels and Five Precepts. On 16 October 1956, Ambedkar performed another mass religious conversion ceremony at Chanda. He prescribed 22 vows to his followers:
1. I shall have no faith in Brahma, Vishnu and Maheshwara nor shall I worship them.
2. I shall have no faith in Rama and Krishna who are believed to be incarnation of God nor shall I worship them.
3. I shall have no faith in Gauri, Ganapati and other gods and goddesses of Hindus nor shall I worship them.
4. I do not believe in the incarnation of God.
5. I do not and shall not believe that Lord Buddha was the incarnation of Vishnu. I believe this to be sheer madness and false propaganda.
6. I shall not perform Shraddha nor shall I give pind-dan.
7. I shall not act in a manner violating the principles and teachings of the Buddha.
8. I shall not allow any ceremonies to be performed by Brahmins.
9. I shall believe in the equality of man.
10. I shall endeavor to establish equality.
11. I shall follow the noble eightfold path of the Buddha.
12. I shall follow the ten paramitas prescribed by the Buddha.
13. I shall have compassion and loving kindness for all living beings and protect them.
14. I shall not steal.
15. I shall not tell lies.
16. I shall not commit carnal sins.
17. I shall not take intoxicants like liquor, drugs etc.
18. I shall endeavor to follow the noble eightfold path and practice compassion and loving kindness in every day life.
19. I renounce Hinduism, which is harmful for humanity and impedes the advancement and development of humanity because it is based on inequality, and adopt Buddhism as my religion.
20. I firmly believe the Dhamma of the Buddha is the only true religion.
21. I believe that I am having a re-birth.
22. I solemnly declare and affirm that I shall hereafter lead my life according to the principles and teachings of the Buddha and his Dhamma.
Nowadays many Ambedkarite Organisations are working for these 22 vows (i.e. 22 Pratigya). They believe that these vows only are responsible for the existence & rapid growth of present Buddhism in India. The umbrella organization known as the 22 Pledges Practice & Propagation Movement (i.e. in Hindi- 22 Pratigya Aacharan aur Prachaar Abhiyan) is fully devoted for this purpose. This totally non-political movement is the brain-child of Arvind Sontakke, and comprises around 5,000,000 volunteers (Pracharaks) including many regional and local groups throughout India.
ananda-usa,
that is great to hear.
good work by ven. rathana. JHU is doing its UNIQUE share of work for SL to be free from the tamil elam cancer.
Yes Gotymbara, I'll be waiting...
Asithri AKA Sir. Arthur Conan Doyle!
Wooow wooow indeed! Very impressive! Excellent work! : ))
When this was published I didn’t offered any condolence or jump the gun due to earlier incident with another SL servicemen claimed to be.
Gotymbara, can u pls provide first name and of this gr8 son of SL Abesinghe or Abeysinghe so we can rightly pay due respect to him just like we did to Mjr. Lalith Jayasinghe!
Other people are focusing on the Phuket, Thailand connection too!
Tamil Tiger chief now in southeast Asia?
P Jayaram
The Straits Times, Date: 21-01-2009
With Sri Lankan troops closing in on the last remaining Tamil Tiger stronghold of Mullaitivu, speculation is rife that rebel chief Velupillai Prabhakaran has fled to Southeast Asia to "fight another day".
Prabhakaran is the leader of the Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam (LTTE), a rebel organisation that seeks an independent Tamil state in part of Sri Lanka.
He is wanted by Interpol for murder, organised crime and terrorism.
"We don't know if he is still there. He may have already fled in a boat," Sri Lanka's army chief, lieutenant-general Sarath Fonseka, told journalists in the capital Colombo over the weekend.
When pressed for more details, he said: "We have no specific information. The only escape route available to them is via the sea towards Southeast Asia."
Indian analysts say Prabhakaran, who has led one of the bloodiest insurgencies in the region for nearly three decades and started the cult of suicide bombings, could have fled to Thailand or Malaysia.
Analysts noted that the LTTE has had a presence in Phuket, Thailand, since the late 1980s. In 1990, the port authorities in Penang impounded an LTTE commercial vessel, seizing diving and communication equipment and ammunition.
"Both Thailand and Malaysia have large ethnic Tamil communities which have been supportive of his war," said retired Indian army major-general Ashok Mehta. He had served in Sri Lanka during the Indian army's operations against the rebel outfit in the late 1980s.
"It is common for the leaders of insurgent groups to relocate themselves when the going gets tough. Prabhakaran also may have fled to fight another day," he told The Straits Times.
"I personally don't think that he has fled, but anything is possible," said NN Jha, a former Indian envoy to Colombo.
"I think he is very much there. It is not in his character to flee," said retired Indian army colonel R Hariharan, who headed the military intelligence when the Indian troops were deployed on the island.
"It would be ironic that a man, who ordered his cadres to swallow cyanide capsules and die rather than surrender, had himself fled," Jha said.
On the possibility of the rebel leader going to India, lt-gen Fonseka said: "He will not be permitted there."
He was referring to India's request for the extradition of the rebel leader, who is accused of planning the 1991 assassination of former Indian prime minister Rajiv Gandhi.
"It is unlikely that Prabhakaran would cross over to Tamil Nadu," said Mehta, referring to the southern Indian state separated from Sri Lanka by a narrow strip of sea and whose people share close linguistic and cultural affinities with the island's Tamils.
Tamil Nadu was the LTTE's main sanctuary before New Delhi, which trained and armed the Tigers in the early 1980s, banned the group following the assassination of Gandhi.
"Unlike Osama bin Laden, who took shelter in the caves of the Tora Bora mountains in Afghanistan's border with Pakistan to escape the US bombings, there are no caves along the southern Indian coast," Mehta said.
"Again, India has stepped up its coastal vigil following the Mumbai terror attacks and I don't think he (Prabhakaran) has that kind of support in Tamil Nadu as he used to have."
Many in the military believe that nabbing Prabhakaran--or even forcing him to flee abroad--would send the rebels into a tailspin, crushing their morale and decision-making structure so badly that the group would fall apart.
The loss of Prabhakaran would be devastating to the group, said Indian journalist MR Narayan Swamy, who wrote a biography of the rebel leader.
"He is their brain. He is their heart. He is their god. He is their soul, and the whole organisation runs around him," he said.
AGG
[Asithri AKA Sir. Arthur Conan Doyle!]
Mate, you crack me up!!!
LMSSAO!!!
Greets to you and yours...
OaO Asithri
Here’s a harrowing account of an SLN officer being treated like shit by RW Ponnaya and his RW-UNP coterie…I have heard umpteenth number of such stories first hand (where our bravehearts have been treated like shit by them) in my frequent visits to SL.
This is why I regard this RW as a Motherfucker…a true Ponnya…a Traitor!
http://www.defence.lk/new.asp?fname=20090119_04
OaO Asithri
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