The Sri Lankan Army entered the village of Kiranchi yesterday after Tigers started withdrawing from the village in the face of the superior firepower of the 58 Division and the guile of the 2 Commando Regiment. A few Tiger units are still trapped inside the land mass at Devil's Point.
Kiranchi is the southern-most village at Devil's point, a strategic area for the LTTE for over two decades and often used as an area to observe movements at sea. The village was being infiltrated by 2 Commando along with Valaipadu and Palavi, as part of an overall strategy of making the areas west of the A-32 unsafe for LTTE, particularly after LTTE units withdrawing from Nachchikuda started moving towards Pooneryn and Devil's Point. By Friday, Tigers had almost completely withdrawn from Kiranchi. They are expected to completely abandon Devil's Point within the next few days.
58 Division troops are close to cutting off land-based escape routes for the trapped Tigers. 11 SLLI and 8GW troops operating ahead of 8th Mile Post on the A-32 are facing Chempiankundu Villu marshland from where they have around 3km to reach the Pooneryn-Paranthan road. The Tigers are expected to put up stiff resistance in this area.
If the road is captured, Tigers may start withdrawing from Pooneryn. Intelligence reports claim they have already moved 130mm howitzers from Pooeryn towards Paranthan along the Pooneryn-Paranthan road. If these reports are accurate, the threat to Jaffna has now been considerably reduced.
Tigers would have to recalculate their arti trajectory, acquire new targets and locations on GPS and DGPS and make new maps based on these calculations on latitudinal and longitudinal grids from areas south of Muhamalai and Kilali upto Elephant Pass or even Paranthan if they are to effectively defend against a southwards push by the 53 Division and the Mechanized Infantry. This could take weeks, even months.
For the Army, the push towards Pooneryn is a real investment for the future. If Pooneryn is captured, there is a serious possibility of the Navy operating a ferry between Sangupiddi Jetty in Pooneryn and Kerativu in Chavakachcheri. Not only will the government save money with such a move but the Army will save valuable deployment time by transporting troops by land to and from Jaffna.
Soldiers will be fresh when they get off in Jaffna or when they reach Mannar or Anuradhapura on leave. The Government may also build a bridge between the two points, which is nothing considering recent projects in the East and elsewhere including the new flyovers near Colombo and in the suburbs.
Monday, November 10, 2008
LTTE moving 130mm howitzers?
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Another story dreamed up by DW banda during his daily bog.
DW,
Please ignore this crackpot Meeharak Mahen, good article as always.
DW, do you think the marshes ahead of the junction and the town will present our ground forces a problem? Can our MBTs operate in this terrain? Thanks.
Mahen-
Get a life, give up your terror. Give some books to innocent kids to read rather than killing their future.
DW, thanks for the update and keeping us informed.
Primates here we come! Powderrr tikak dala, mottuwak dekak thiyala, Thalathell tikak dagana lasthi wela inna honde!!!
P.S. Oyala Ranata bayada? Every time Rana makes a threat requesting a update you/ team promptly comply.
Now now, just joking men. Keep your cool.
UPDATE: Decapitating Strike by Tiger Suicide carders in Dehiwala!
God, we are done for!
What the hell is wrong with our SLDF....where are the so called security measures.
Shame Shame Shame!
Now this will send the Primates in this blog on a posting frenzy!!!
Full details:
http://www.colombopage.com/archive_08/November1035755KA.html
DW-
After reaching Devil point and Pooneryn-Paranthan road what would stop, some SLA push from Naga Kovil / Muhumalai fronts?
Apino-
Tala Thel damma wagee nemai, lissala geyoth....
Selamat Malam all
DW thanks for the update.
Calling.. Mahen..Peter...boss...
Come back and start digging the rat hole.
Mr.Brown's mum doing a very good job by bending down at present. All you need doing is stand behind her and digging.
Productivity will go up and up.
Shyam is currently doing a very good job with his hands.
Thanks DW for the regular updates
a couple of questions
a). Tigers have withdrawn from everywhere and now soon from Pooneryn. The numbers KIA are less, What would be the impact when they all converge in the Mullaitivu Jungles.
b)Tigers would have to recalculate their arti trajectory.....This could take weeks, even months. can you explain it a bit more. How do troops recalcultae arti trajec when they move FDL's forward.
3). iIf Pooneryn is captured.. why if? shouldn't it be when
thanks
Hi... This is Pillian speaking...
[Ceasefire will bring 'disaster'
]
Fittingly coming through the horses' mouth, BBC!
I cannot wait to see a regiment of TASSLs from the East blasting the a*s*holes of 'Tamil' terrorists from the Terror Republic of Eelam!
And... who the fkuc in the universe can now talk about an ethnic issue in Sri Lanka, sidelining the TASSLs from the East and the South?
Kill more and achieve more... because it WORKS!
Oh LTTE coolies… I can imagine your pain WHEN YOU SEE how a good number of your ripe and young, who can breed more their own kind, instead becoming rich fertilizer!
he... he... he...
Pillayan and Karuna will be dealt with in the appropriate manner. Remember what happened to Mahattaya? Even Thileepan did not "fast" to death, he had no other option.
[Pillayan and Karuna will be dealt with in the appropriate manner.]
I think 'BIG'.
Not satisfied until I'm totally 'liberated' and the Elaam is dawned.
Who cares how you get it... or give me back money assbone.
mahen
What will be your excuse when the ltte press releases are being issued from Chennai?
perein,
the 53 and 55 Div commanders would have to make plans of crossing the several hundred meters of open terrain ahead of the Mohamalai, Kilali and NK defenceline as soon as aerial photos/satellite images and other recon tell them tigers are pulling back, but most importantly the arti and mortar points are being pulled back. I don't think they will break away from the FDL in great numbers like the last two times without proper calculations. Tiger trenches maybe un-manned or under-manned right now but there's still defence-in-depth further south. small arti correction teams can give locations of the troops to the 130s, 122s and 156s. This is why the 58's role is so crucial. LTTE's firepower assets are cattered all over the place in the Vnni, but still somewhat ready and focused in the north/jaffna. but th 58's move could break that focus forcing the tigers to take action to protect the assets. this is the time they will be most vulnerable. a lot can change as soon as 58 takes control of the paranthan-pooneryn road.
shan,
a)I think there's a difference between previous withdrawals and this. Earlier, LTTE used to coil itself and then suddenly recoil. for this to happen, they need a reserve. This is how charles anthony became a successful unit for the Tigers in the past. What we are now seeing is an altogether different LTTE, not because LTTE made mistakes but because Army has a better strategy. Army started eating into LTTE's under-trained units very early on thus forcing the Tigers to use their reserves. the reserves have suffered because of this. they cannot also concentrate on 6 divisions at the same time. So our guess is that, although a section of the reserves escape from pooneryn and kilinochchi towards mulaitivu, they will soon have to fight. fighting is limited to the capacity of your reserve and the supply of weapons and the integrity of your assets. with the northwestern coast regained, sri lanka navy will completely shot down the northeastern coast preventing supplies to the tigers. tigers are also no good in urban warfare. we saw this in the east, mannar etc. if you take a good look at the battle order map, you will see how 59 has already taken control of thick jungles and how TF-3 is heading towards oddusudan. this will limit the tigers to the northwestern half of mulaitivu. but the 55 division culd advance in them from the side along with the 53. all divisions in the northweastern coast could turn towards mulaitivu on the easterly direction after paranthan. this means 8 divisions marching on the remaining LTTE reserve. I would say that this is a very tall order for the Tigers. this is how we see the mulaitivu battle taking place.
DW has never even been on the A32. He thinks, based on the maps, that it is a highway like A9.
The road doesn't even have tarmac for most parts. One can imagine the state large trailers will get into, if the try travelling up that road at the height of the Monsoon in December.
Lol! GPS coordinates of targets in Jaffna won't change just because arties are fired from a different location. Tigers just have to work out different trajectories. Maybe it takes modays a few months to do some calculations, but Tigers are Tamils.
DC,
if SF finishes LTTE as a conventional power, nobody can prevent him becoming the next president--not even the Rajapakses. Lately SF has been grooming himself for this role.
OTOH, if somehow the tigers turn the tables, even partially, everybody will rip SF/GR/MR to shreds--it has happened in the past.
Again, if VP has to go underground or exiled, his own worshippers will rip into him with a vengeance, as can be already seen to an extent here.
Why is MR going to India, did BR not settle the matter?
or is there still unseen pressures working behind the scenes?
Hey Vellupille & Pottu
Let them leave man.. Common...u must think about your Tamil people...
What we all need is peaceful life..and fight for poverty...
http://www.army.lk/
morenews.php?id=17978
"Mother Lanka at this critical hour of need requests young men with GCE (Ordinary Level) or (Advanced Level) to seek enlistment with the Sri Lanka Army"
http://www.army.lk/morenews.php?id=17979
[if SF finishes LTTE as a conventional power,....]
[ if somehow the tigers turn the tables....]
[if VP has to go underground or exiled....]
if...if...if....
Classic desperated LTTE coolie thinking loud!
Nowhere near the realistic ambitions of the proud, progressive and united Sri Lankans.
Peter peter, this is why you are a pumpkin eater....
you've seen some rupavahini clips on youtube and prfess to know A32, yes it is more or less a dirt road right now but do you know it's being repaired and tarred from Mannar onwards.
so tell me, who the modaya is....
STD
so you've crawled out to sow a bit of doubt and misinformation...SF has never shown inclination to politics, never any indication. a blatant lie.
fat hopes son, the LTTE is done.the only tables they can turn is what you eat on and maybe write on, too ba d the supporters don't see through but wake up to reality. when pooneryn is taken in a few days the tide turns and read DW's esponse a bit above your post. You think the LTTE can face 8 divisions.
you seem ignorant as much as you are stupid. read the news, MR is going to India for the BIMSTEC - don't ask me what that is, this is not the forum for a discourse on that. your attempt there falls flat on the belly mate.
BTW you seem to be hallucinating in your bout of yellow fever.
The tarring of A32 will extend over Peeter's ass. Its already black, the tar will make it blacker, all we need is some white weathers and a pole.
STD,
Why don't you go back to making your national dish Hu Flung Dung instead of bloggin here.
This is a great time to put the 'necessary' systems in place to overtly and covertly Eelamize any leftover Tamil separatist, who still wants to order the fat-filled Elaam Pizza through the Room Service of the Hotel International Community.
...unless they are willing to sit down for a 5-course meal...with the fellow Sri Lankans star-studded main dining hall of the 'Hotel Sri Lanka'... and resolve their issues.
''Tigers would have to recalculate their arti trajectory, acquire new targets and locations on GPS and DGPS and make new maps based on these calculations on latitudinal and longitudinal grids from areas south of Muhamalai and Kilali upto Elephant Pass or even Paranthan if they are to effectively defend against a southwards push by the 53 Division and the Mechanized Infantry. This could take weeks, even months.
''
Moda DW...I am having a good lugh man.. I have no idea even why I am reading ur news.. Bulshit man.. DO u expect LTTE would wait to get the coordinates untill they move artilary from poneryan.. U seems to be a kid just getting to know about LTTE from just 1 or 2 weeks ago.. if they can bomb kelanitissa , Kattunaake airport and other places with accuracy.. do u think LTTE have problemto get coordinates and calculate them..? U assume it will take months..? according to you..Prabha must be sitting with mathematical rulled excerice book...and calculating with his 10 fingers.. are u really crazy? cant u improve ur writing qualities..
MZ,
what about your dish, teach me (Sinhalese dish that is).
There's a saying--dont spit in the plate you eat in.
STD,
I am not Sinhalese. Please educate yourself about the ethnic mix of SL before you blog here.
STD, don't pretend to be Chinese. I think you watched too many Jackie Chan and Bruce Lee movies in your youth that you actually rather be Chinese than an oily haired podiyen.
STD,
You'd rather not start a war of words with me buddy, you will not be able to see it through to completion, I think you need to shut your trap to maintain some credibility.
Actually, even the new roads created by army bulldozers in weli oya are being tarred. one road in particular from Janakapura is tarred upto 5km already.
But the truth is this. Some Tamils chose LTTE violence. They invested money on this bet. Now that horse isn't running all that well. As with any other bet, a win or a loss must be absorbed by the one betting.
MZ is complaining a bit too much;)
Is that why a Sinhalese had to try to pass off as a pork-eating Muslim:))
No self-respect man.
[There's a saying--dont spit in the plate you eat in.
]
Look here... there's one exception allowed for that all mighty Tamil Diaspora, who got the subsidzed milk and food, free medical and education (including the University education)... top jobs and business opportunities and an 'all countries' passport to hit the West and start screwing the very country that put them there.
They don't spit in the plate they eat... they simply sh*t on to it.
That sums up this very complicated 'Tamil' cause!
STD,
There is an expression that says that you should not hit a man when he is down, so I will refrain from replying to your posts.
STD
any Sri Lankan can be a patriot that support his/her country unreservedly. whether Sinhala, Muslim, Tamil or Burgher is immaterial to us, it matters only to you and the brain washed ltte supporters.
your scare tactics don't work here buddy, even your boss tried it saying taking killinochchi is a dream.you try those tactics in your wn den, not here.
wow, so predictable! so easy to provoke! so insecure!
Its no wonder peter, brown, mahen, kuttu et al are able to manipulate you all to whichever direction they wish to:))
Ok I had enough fun . Sayo nara.
an eelamist trying to pass off as a yellow skin
get lost, what else can you do
கம்பன் கூறிய படி அறம் வெல்லும்
STD,
Sayo Naro is Japanese. No self respecting Han person would use that expression, have you read history at all? At least do some research on the race that you are pretending to be from.
MZ,
assumptions my dear, assumptions.
your racist lifeview is obvious by this post BTW.
Mad Hen said,
"Even Thileepan did not "fast" to death, he had no other option.
"
Well well well! Straight from the horse's mouth!
DW, excellent analysis as always-thanks!!
just some comments/clarifications
-Is the army simply tarring the roads,without laying pipelines and telecom cables?.idf so,its a very haphazard and slipshod job,just to make a flat surface for the armour and artillery to move,don't you think? (unless they have laid the cables/pipelines of course)..
-are we still using our close-in 81/82 mm mortars?
-what about recoilless-guns?.i have observed that these are not based on any platform,like a truck or jeep for support and stabilisation but instead just placed on the ground.
-have the new and refurbished Mi-35 hinds with night-capability sensors put into action or are we still using the existing mi-24's
thanks
[wow, so predictable! so easy to provoke!]
No one is getting provoked.
Instead, tongue in cheek, your comments are used as good 'raw materials' and 'opportunity' to make readers aware of the true facts behind the fake 'Tamil' cause.
Chew on that!
The real reason for Thileepan's fast is common knowledge, why do you sound surprised?
I am surprised at the regurgitation of bitter truth by a Tamil separatist himself.
Rena gade,
Sarama ussala namila balapan. Weapon details penei.
DW, excellent work!
Progress is marvellous!
Astonishing Report!
good team work
Thank you DA and DW.
Peter,
புன்டெ டிஎ
Peter,
another LTTP looooooser
One Sakkiliya said - "Thileepan was semi-traitor, he had two options, put up a show fast or face execution. Why is all this news to you? I hate that bastard, a gay looking goodie two shoes in bell bottoms. We had much better leaders."
Then why the Fcuk you light candles in front of his photos and pray like you lost your grandpa?
The fact written in Narayana's book is Thileepan was a cancer patient and his condition was volatile when the time he was fast to death. The fat pig used him for his cause asking him to fast to death than kill him self by the disease.
This is the start the pig sacrificed someone vulnerable. The latest chapters of the same game reveals when he used handicap / retarded people as human bombs.
So the question is when is the fat pig himself becomes a human bomb and set a example to his Sakkily followers, as everyone knows the mad pig is mentally retarded!
[LTTE bastion Kiranchi falls; LTTE suffers heavy casualties - Kilinochchi--- MOD]
It's truly puzzling... how come there's no other individual among the civilians in Vanni, Tamil Diaspora or LTTE to stand up against the LTTE monster? It's simply not possible!
This job seems to have been 100% outsourced to our SLDF!
It does not matter… At least THE FIGHT, THE PRIDE AND THE LIBERATION OF 'TAMILS'... ARE NOW TRULY OWENED BY US.
What a ‘turn’ of the tables!
"LTTE ready for truce"!!!!!
- HA HA, Bloody Ha ha!!!
http://www.hindu.com/2008/11/10/stories/2008111056271400.htm
Puffy wrote,
/I(puffy) wrote on 4th;
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If the SLA manages cut off that road (Pooneryn-Parantha), may be somewhere close to Periyaparanthan, then Paranthan will also be at risk of falling to the SLA. This will be very dangerous to the LTTE since Killi will be vulnerable from both north and south. Who knows, since the LTTE is hell-bent on stopping the 57 division from reaching Killi from the south, this might be the real intension of the SLA.
========
DW wrote on 8th;
========
As we noted many weeks ago, the Sri Lanka Army will probably checkmate the LTTE’s Kilinochchi stronghold, not from the current operation by the 57 but from the operation working its way towards Paranthan from the northwest. Military tacticians have long realized that there’s more than one way to take Kilinochchi. Currently, the Tigers are using maximum force to hold down the 57 Division at Iranamadu, Akkarayan and Kokavil general areas. They cannot afford the 58 moving towards Paranthan from the Pooneryn-Paranthan road. This would make Muhamale and Kilinochchi untenable./
========
I dont see much in DW article other than going to Paranthan in the near future after clearing west of A32 and Pooneryn.
You suggested, instead of going to Pooneryn go to Pooneryn-Paranthan road aiming somewhere between Nallur and Periya Paranthan. That is the one I said too dangerous without clearing Pooneryn and west of A32.
SLA doing exactly as I predicted. Their final aim is Paranthan from the west, anybody can understand it easily.
Hi DW ayya,
Do you have any pictures of the newly captured Kiranchi?
Thanks
RDG
# DW Thanks for the update.
/Do u expect LTTE would wait to get the coordinates untill they move artilary from poneryan../
Ha Ha I agree. Inteligent tamizas in LTTP get coordinates long beofre moving the guns. These days LTTP getting coordinates of which areas?
# Mahen commemorating Theleepan Ha Ha
/He thinks, based on the maps, that it is a highway like A9./
He thinks A9 is a 6-lane highwya. Ha Ha (We could have build such highways in pelaam if NGO spend the money really for develpoment.)
# 58D
Areas (villeges) captured in last 3 days
-Valliyankulam
-Mullikaddal
-Munkanpan
-Chunnavil
-Nikkaikulam
-Thariyalangampaththu
-Kiranchi
Dead tiger bodies (good tigers Ha Ha) found = 24
# I thought 56D is an defensisve division. Are they now moving north from Omanthei?
Vanni Meheyuma 10.10.08
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Wxq1A0BznSw
# Diaspora clowns, click here click 'play' once and enjoy vanishing peelaam.
AMMA G/G,
Aussies go down again, all out for 209, Harbhajan and Mishra spin them into a new low. Indians have won the 04 test series 2/0.
If you remember Aussie tour to NZ just before last WC, where Aussies put up well over 300 twice and black caps successfuly chased that both.
Don't be so quick to write-off black Caps yet.
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Tropical storm,
Is there a collection point in Syd/Australia for this medication? If so, could anyone please inform me the address or a contact number to send these medication
Bigger the bubble, louder the bang.
Don't forget to watch your backyard.
Ninja,
A9 is the "KAPPAN HIGHWAY" of vesapillei and they can't use it now. Very soon SLA will cross it from Mankulam to Iranamadu, then Puliankulam to Mankulam.
LTTE is running out of roads now!
Peter,
/Bigger the bubble, louder the bang./
You got it exactly this time. That is what happend to vesapillei!
/Don't forget to watch your backyard./
It is too late now, back yard is already gone, very soon front yard too!
DW-
Thank you for the earlier briefing.
During next few weeks SLA does not have much options apart from walking towards
Paranathan or towards Iranamadu Tank.
By walking towards Paranathan could take either right or left to gain a main
land mark.
What is your opinion about those possibilities?
Any one remember which diaspora clown was crying about monsoon/rain here two months ago? Ha Ha Now can some one tell me when the monsoon rain will end? Ha Ha
thanks DW for the update.
"after Tigers started withdrawing..."
and they have moved 130 howitzers as well!!!
this is fcuking disappointing.
the chase away strategy is bound to fail. all these tigers should have been killed and their heavy guns destroyed in kiranchi, etc. there were no civilians.
why did we chase them away with their machines???
totally unacceptable. SLDFs should replace chase away with harvesting and destroy LTTE capabilities than let them run with them.
rana,
read my post mate. we don't have much to cheer about.
we should take LTTE's 4Ms (men, materials, machinery, methods) to end this. land, as you can see is not one of them. it is ONLY an enabler for taking away the 4Ms.
[... Many analysts are surprised the Tigers have not unleashed more suicide bombings and unconventional attacks in the capital Colombo in response to being pressured up north... Reuters - C. Bryson Hull]
Another sad reporter praying for bloodshed in Sri Lanka for his cuppa.... living in denial... refusing to accept that our systems works... Our defence folks bring RESULTS... and we don't need advice from 'Sri Lanka experts' born in Eskimoland.
No Instant-Maggie-Noodles
solution when dealing with an Award Winning terrorist outfit.
When it comes to fumigating the world-class terrorist pigs, we are king.
"While you are trying to capture bog, marsh lands and palmyrah trees,"
It seems that Mahen believes that Tamileelam doesn't have anything of value, certainly nothing worth defending!
"we will re-capture the breadbasket East and close the anicut once again."
Before Mahen starts babbling about recapturing the east he should answer the question how the east was lost to begin with. Hopefully by answering this key question, he'll come to his senses about the LTTE's future in the east.
Guys,
Good one to download and read or add to your archives (if you collate such material) GR's interview with Business Today.
http://www.defence.lk/news/Mr_Gotabaya_Rajapaksa.pdf
Ninja
"Why did you ask difficult questions fron peter? Ask easy questions so that he can answer. Example: What is the radius of vezapillai's arse hole?"
LOL
Saman
"How are you mate?"
Pretty good, although it would be nice when Moshe could figure out which Tamils are the enemy and which are friends. How are you?
"Aananda Sagaree became a good man and our friend, only after Tigers snapped TULF hand which fed them off it's wrist."
Sangaree joined TULF after the LSSP, his original party adopted communal politics. Even there he was hated by the separatists. Kasi Anandan, the LTTE's poet named him as "traitor" in the 1970s.
"This guy is advocating a federal system for merged North and East, which I totally oppose."
Disagreeing with someone is not the same thing as calling him "fcuking bastard."
STD,
"if SF finishes LTTE as a conventional power, nobody can prevent him becoming the next president--not even the Rajapakses. Lately SF has been grooming himself for this role."
How has Fonseka been grooming himself to become the next President, aside from calling for anti-corruption efforts? What is the evidence that he is no longer loyal to the Rajapakses?
Moshe,
Brother, As I said b4 too. We cannot decide all strategies alone, tigers also make changes to their plans.
Why they have to keep guns in Pooneryn, if vit is going to fall. If we tried to cut off Poonaryn-Paranthan road without clearing west our flanks are exposed and caualties should have been high.
SLAF attacked these guns many times but they survived, may be SLAF accuracy is not good.
May be ground intelligence is not good due to fast changing conditions.
Mate, I have to run for tele conference now, I will
come back within 20 minutes to discuss this further.
Hold on, bro!
Here is a letter from another clown. Interesting to note 9th/10th paras. It goes as,
"Hence, our party issued a public statement, requesting the fighting Tamil leadership in Sri Lanka, to spell out their stand, to ceasefire attempts, in unambiguous terms.
They have responded immediately in a positive manner. I am enclosing the statement of the LTTE’s Political advisor B.Nateson’s message."
He sounded like the school master of Vezapulle to con the addressed.
I HAVE TO ASK WHAT THE FUCK YOU WERE DOING OVER THE LAST 30 YESRS.
PISS OFF WILL YOU - AS WE CAN ASK THAT QUESTION OURSELVES NOW. WE DONT NEED ANOTHER HANUMUN.
Full text,
Dr.Manmohan Singh
Hon’ble Prime - Minister
New Delhi
Date: Nov, 10 2008
Respected Prime Minister,
CPI State Secretary's letter to Indian PM
I am writing this letter to draw your attention to the latest developments in Sri Lanka.
All the political Parties in TamilNadu, demand in one voice to stop the war against the civilians in Sri Lanka, which is causing great concern in TamilNadu.
You are aware that the Ceasefire arrived at the initiative of the Norwegian govt’s representatives in 2002 had been unilaterally abrogated by the Sri Lankan govt in 2008, Feb. Many countries disapproved of this unilateral decision and requested the Sri Lankan govt to pursue the path of negotiation to arrive at a political settlement.
But the Sri Lankan govt. aggravated the situation by resorting to aerial bombing and also allround attack by the artillery. Lakhs of innocent people had been uprooted from their habitats and rendered homeless. Many innocent people were killed.
As their misery rose and their cries of sorrows also increased, the TamilNadu people of their own accord and instinctively reacted to the human tragedy and hence demanded an end to the war.
Any war however bitter it might be, should end one day as the first and second world wars have ended.
Hence, on behalf of the State Council of the CPI, I request you to use your good offices to impress upon the Sri Lankan President to stop the war and agree for a ceasefire.
One pertinent question was raised about the attitude of the LTTE, which is spearheading the Tamils movement, regarding such ceasefire efforts.
Hence, our party issued a public statement, requesting the fighting Tamil leadership in Sri Lanka, to spell out their stand, to ceasefire attempts, in unambiguous terms.
They have responded immediately in a positive manner. I am enclosing the statement of the LTTE’s Political advisor B.Nateson’s message.
Hence, as the assurance for ceasefire has been obtained from the LTTE, the Sri Lankan govt. must be persuaded to reciprocate positively for ending the war.
Delaying and dodging to resolve the ethnic conflict in SriLanka, will lead to fissiparous tendencies to grow in various parts of India.
As Indians, we feel, that the Sri Lankan ethnic conflict should he resolved amicably or else, the negative impact on India will have long term repercussions.
Hence, our party appeals to you, to treat it as important and act swiftly to end the war in SriLanka.
Yours sincerely,
D. Pandian
DIFFERENCE BETWEEN SRI LANKA HEROIC ARMY AND BARBARIAN TAMIL TIGER TERRORIST
Army's human element saves teenage cadre's life
(By: Shanika Sriyananda)
She could have breathed her last in few minutes or would have been tucked with other dead bodies of her colleagues. Found among 17 dead bodies, she sustained serious injuries in the stomach and the left arm, yet had the luck to live, thanks to the keen eyes of a soldier, who is fighting a battle to liberate thousands of Tamils from the brutal clutches of LTTE.
The fighting escalated at 5.30 am, as the LTTE was still holding ground at the A 32 Road towards Pooneryn. An eight man team of the Delta Company of the 11th Sri Lanka Light Infantry at the Task Force 1, led by Captain Lalantha Kollurage was taking their maximum effort to capture the LTTE bunkers at Paddaruyal Villu between the 10th and 11th mile posts which is three and half km East of the Ponneryn - Mannar main road. After hours long heavy fighting using RPG attacks, the team managed to gain control of the location in the wee hours of November 1, killing 17 LTTE cadres.
While recovering dead bodies of the LTTE, soldiers found a female cadre left with serious injuries and heavily bleeding. The field medics gave her fist aid. After regaining consciousness she pleaded the soldiers to give her some water. Later she asked something to eat saying they were left without food for days. Honouring the moral values, the soldiers did not let her die and they treated her as one of their colleagues and was given saline. She was then brought to the nearest medical dressing station where she was treated.
This girl who was found lying unconsciously among the other dead bodies was in a trench. She was a cadre at the 'Yal-Selvam Paddai' and later attached to the 'Malathi' regiment. She was a resident at Mulankavil before being abducted by the LTTE. Trained in Jaffna, the 18 year old girl was brought down to Paddaruyal Villu from Muhamalai forcibly. She was blindfolded along-with few other female cadres and just dropped at the battle fronts and forced to fight with the advancing security forces.
The girl with her norm de guerilla 'Priya' was abducted by the LTTE few months ago and was given a crash training on weapon handling and basic battle training. Knowing nothing about the strength or the fighting capacity of the Security Forces, the teenage girls and boys were shown heroic pictures of the LTTE cadres and further misled by saying that the LTTE would confront any battle against the Security Forces. The young cadres were given an assurance that the LTTE would win the battle and they are on a winning path. The LTTE, in the verge of extinction is still continuing forcible child recruitment unabated also sowing seeds of hatred and separatism within the Wanni Tamil community who are denied all possible communication links to know the truth about the battle. The LTTE still maintains the human shield, according to information, and is using cruel punishments against those who try to flee the non-liberated areas. The outfit does not spare even 10 year olds and the sources said the LTTE terrorists are now abducting even small children for military fatigue while the other cadres are being sent to battle fronts.
According to the sources, the LTTE is using the tactic of deploying new recruits along the frontlines who were brought blindfolded with less acquaintance of the terrain and left with no other option except to fight for their survival against the advancing security forces. This tactic of the senior LTTE cadres using 'sacrifice of junior numbers' as an instrument to sustain their own demise, has brought much controversy triggering frustration and disgust among its grass-root ranks.
Priya had grenades and she did not bite the cyanide as she wanted to live. Priya's story will be the best example to show the difference between a professional army and a terrorist organisation.
During the Thoppigala operation, Sergeant K.G. Priyantha Pathirana was found with serious injuries and was taken by the LTTE as a POW. The LTTE terrorists, including female cadres, treated him in an inhumane way before his neck was cut while he was struggling for life. Later his head was displayed at the Illupadichenai junction. But, the fate of Priya turned a new leaf in her life and she will live to tell the difference.
The mission to rescue another 'human' at the battle front was a success due to immediate actions by the TF-1 troops and division Commander Brigadier Shavendra Silva. The teenager was given a new lease of life. It will be a show piece to tell the world that Sri Lanka is carrying a humanitarian operation and not a battle against those misled by the LTTE. Not only Priya but many LTTE carders who crossed to liberated areas with serious injuries, were given medical treatment alike the soldiers wounded in the battle fronts.
The highly disciplined soldiers carried Priya, more than a kilo meter from the point that they were fighting, simply to save a life of another human being. They did not disregard the international humanitarian laws and even the soldiers at the front lines are well aware about those values - not to kill even an enemy who is fighting for life.
Already, suffering from internal hemorrhage, Priya was carried by a stretcher to the nearest Medical Dressing Station (MDS) where she was given immediate treatment.
Then she was transported in an ambulance for over eight km to the main MDS where the military doctors of the TF-1 gave her treatment for the abdominal injuries.
Giving top priority, the teenage female cadre was airlifted to the Anuradhapura General Hospital for further treatment as she was badly injured. She was later transferred to the National Hospital - Colombo, for further treatments. Priya now awaits a new begin of freedom and life with the same 'foe' she was earlier forced to fight with. Destiny has pronounced well as Priya was saved and given a new hope of life by the same people whom she was taught (by LTTE) 'cruel' and 'aggressive' to her community.
Courtesy : Sunday Observer
This is a link on the Bbc sinhala web site
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sinhala/!
Click Here -Plan for new LTTE homeland! !
The corrected story
The non-elect of the Eelam, Mr Praba, says he wants to buy a new homeland for his people.
He says that the gradual rise in death levels of his carders caused by global warming and the war means the eelam population may eventually be forced to resettle elsewhere.
The Eelam is the lowest nation in the world. Its area soon will be is little more than two square metres above sea level.
The United Nations estimates that eelam area may shrink globally by nearly 6% every week in this century.
Devastation fears
etc etc....
November 11, 2008 4:22
It's stupid to argue in this blog with inhuman blood hungry tamil tiger supporters. They like only to see blood and killings. This is the generation of ruthless killer pukabaharan. So best thing here (in this blog) not to disclose or publish vital info's. Instead publish real heroism of true defenders of our motherland.
Millions of tamils do not have their own land anywhere in this world. But thanks to killer pukabaharan they have spread all around the world and numbers in many countries. The day these racist will ask the parts in this major countries like Canada, France, Swiss, UK, Germany USA, Australia, Norway is not longer. They make maximum number of kids and when their people are major minority , then it will make fake history and say land belongs to them.
France took it's first lesson last days from tiger killer few days ago when French government banned the demonstration. This is clear example. Europe,Canada, USA and Australia get a good lesson from this racist tiger killers very soon. Then NO SORRY that time.
DefWire
Why would it take the LTTE weeks to recalculate trajectory to hit a target? I spoke with a US Army guy from Op. Desert Storm who says it is a matter of minutes at most once the GPS coordinates for a target is known, to lob a shell. i am certain this type of software and technology is not all that hard to come by, and the LTTE should already have it. After all these guys have been using satellite technology for decades.
I'd assume that these guns could be used while on the move even.
gringo,
"Many analysts are surprised the Tigers have not unleashed more suicide bombings and unconventional attacks in the capital Colombo in response to being pressured up north... Reuters - C. Bryson Hull"
yes mate. this suck-kill-aiya is crying over it. soththi-pakaya-saravanamutta also cried over it some time back.
they don't know the reason. they think tigers out of INABILITY or SYMPATHY not carriying out these attacks.
the real reason is OUR TIT-FOR-TAT retaliations.
but tigers will TRY THEIR LUCK again and again. IF we are late in RETALIATING they will CONTINUE.
if you analyse all major terror attacks you can easily trace EACH OF THEM to a RETALIATION starting from the 25 APRIL 2006 attack.
retaliations are NOT knee jerk reactions as i say ALWAYS.
e.g. take the TIT-4-TAT on 25/4/2006. LTTE posisiotns AROUND civilian areas in tricvo was bombed by SLAF within hours of the terror attack. why trinco???? bcos by that time SLDFs had a plan to clear this area thereby splitting the east from the north. you know the rest about the east.
timing and/or the similarity (in some cases) was everything.
also the bus bombs recently had SIMILAR but MANY attacks in vanni. even ambulances were bombed!
when terror met terror, LTTE collapsed.
israel is VERY fluent in the ONLY LANGUAGE TERRORISTS understand. time to time HAMAS, JIHAD, AL AQSA, HEZBULLAH, etc., etc. try their luck by attacking israel, especially new developments/settlement.
EVERY part of the country is within terrorist KATYUSHA rockers, etc. BUT generally they DARE NOT attack israel.
why?
they also have an area to protect!!!! that is their weakness. we MUST exploit it.
whatever LTTE may boast, it has things, leaders, assets, an economy to protect. PLUS, these are MORE fragile than SL ones.
if SLAF, "DPU", etc. attack these, the damage would be ENORMOUS.
Moshe,
Sorry, mate,
That tele conf: took nearly 35 minutes.
Yes, I know that you are pissed-off, because LTTP moved howizers before we capture/destroy them.
Sooner or later it has to happen. Now they will position those in Paranthan or Periya Paranthen to use it against 53, 55, 58 and 57. However, 58 cannot do every thing at lightning speed, amte.
Those guns survived mainly because inaccuracy of SLAF, if we have to blame somebody, it has to be SLAF not 58. 58th division is the best fighting unit we have.
I know that DW is fond of 58 but they are good and bring results.
Even now, SLAF has many chances to take them out in Paranthan. They should try hard and get them before these guns do harm to advancing 58 along Pooneryn-Paranthan road.
Most of our casualties due to arti and mortar fire. It is shame we couldn't destroy them but you need to give some credit to LTTE becuase they are also making the best use of what they posses.
We haven't heard of any LRRp ops for a while.
Neither is the situ around Killinochchi clear. Is the SLA holding down a sizeable LTTE contingent in there while taking down Pooneryn and Paranthan?
Someone who knows the geography, tell me this..How does Div 53 and 55 bypass E'pass to come down and strike from above?
/we will re-capture the breadbasket East and ../
Ha Ha Re-capturing east which LTTP never lost..
/Persuade Rajapaksa to stop the war: Pandian urges Manmohan Singh/- tamilnut
Is tamilnut editor wrote this wearing clothes?
MD
/"after Tigers started withdrawing..."
and they have moved 130 howitzers as well!!!
this is fcuking disappointing./
Well, this is not a surprise. If poonaryn is gonna fall then for what reason LTTP keep the heavy guns there, to gift to SLA. Of course they will move them.
If DPU can attack and destroy the heavy guns while they were located in poonaryn or while they move it that's great. But this will be fcuking difficult. (Forget about SLAF.)
/the chase away strategy is bound to fail./
Well, SLA's final objetive is annihilation. But LTTP will run for life after some point. They fought until they realise they can no longer resist.
/all these tigers should have been killed and their heavy guns destroyed in kiranchi, etc. there were no civilians./
I don't think they had heavy guns at Kiranchi. Mate, you can't kill all the tigers in Kiranchi as they will run for life. Point here is still they have land to run and hide. Thus to kill them SLA have to advance. That's what happeneing here and I see nothing wrong.
As you like if all the tigers get killed right there then SLA can just walk. But it won't happen.
/why did we chase them away with their machines???/
They simply moved them.
/totally unacceptable. SLDFs should replace chase away with harvesting and destroy LTTE capabilities than let them run with them./
Now here is the point. How long can LTTP run and hide while thier land is shrinking daily basis. After some point they will be boxed into the traingle of east of A9, north of A34 and sea/west of A35. Until then they can run with their guns unless they did some big mis-calculation.
/we should take LTTE's 4Ms (men, materials, machinery, methods) to end this. land, as you can see is not one of them. it is ONLY an enabler for taking away the 4Ms./
This is not clear. If you take off all their men still this will end and the rest can do nothing, right? What's the difference between materials and machinary? Land should be included here, I guess.
## I think right now LTTP main strategy is getting CFA; They need to get it before they loose poonaryn, K'chi, Paranthan, Muhamale, A9 etc. That's why they give heavy resistance sacrificing large number of cadres just to slow down sLA. Other wise I don't see any point sacrificing this many cadres (10,000+) for a loosing battle. LTTP also expect a lot from tamiznadu towards CFA.
Rana,
Put my name also to the pissed-off list due to DW report on moving 130mm Howitzers.
I can't figure out with air dominance how could this happen (same goes with LTTE's ability to build 20ft high earth bunds without being attacked).
My other concern is, if we can not block these how on earth we have a chance to capture the rats in the holes.
Can you please give me some clues, as to why this is the case.
ninja,
mate, i force myself to think that you are joking!!!
in vaharei/thoppigala LTTE left MANY heavy guns (at least 2 152s, 1 MBRL). thats not the point. SLAF can have MANY opportunities to destroy them when on the move. these cannot be conclealed on the move.
annihilation GOT to be done when the opportunity exists. now these escapees are probably hiding inside the sarongs and sarees of civilians making it very difficult to annihilate them.
SLA approach (apart from SFs) is to chase away using a VERY high dose of fire power. it would be better if SLA has UAVs. again some fcuker was against SLA having UAVs.
tigers deploy informants but SLA cannot proportionately copy them.
NEVER postpone annihilation. the lower the number of hardcore terrorists in the mulaitivu jungles and in IDP camps, the better.
an escaped terrorist is like an escaped game hunt. bugger gets more and more experienced, angry and skilled in the NEXT battle.
T Storm,
Who said 53 and 55 can bypass EP and come down to Paranthan?
They can't unless they fly over EP. If they want they can come down to Pooneryn once it is cleared through the laggon using a ferry. Then we are weakening our position in Muhamalei, Kilali and Nagar Kovil.
No they will fight and come down as soon as situ is right. As DW said they will come down as small units, in slow motion to avoid debacle similar to earlier attempts.
DW,
Many thanks for the frequent updates. The situation is dynamic and evolving from day-to-day and thanks to your group of writers we get a unique perspective of the front line situation. After 25 years of back and forth, I never imagined that I would see the day the SLA would make it to the fringes of the Jaffna peninsular.
Due to a unique combination of political will, military leadership, and high morale of the soldiers, SLA is in the process of comprehensively defeating the LTTE.
guys,
we MIGHT have another homeland struggle in future!!!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/7719501.stm
oh shitt!
IF maldivians (they are very good, nice, non-violent, friendly, similar culture, etc.) want to buy land in sl for a HOMELAND@#$%^&* then SL will be in deeper shit.
money & votes can easily buy politicos in SL and i smell danger ahead.
Vakarei/ Thoppigala we found heavy guns becuz LTTP had no place to move them. (They did it from Sampur to Vakarei.)
Best way for annihilation is convince them they have some thing to defend. I guess, SLA used this principle and its working. In this way SLA better make them die in K'chi while fighting for weeks without taking it. However, time is a constraint. And SLDF need to balance war strategy with politics/ economy/ indian election and many more things we don't like. Thus I think thing are going on according to an overall plan.
(I was not joking.)
Ninja,
You are by name,
Feudal-era master spy and assassin. The Ninja is capable of using many weapons and armor and also has the unique ability to throw weapons, although doing so destroys enemy. Experts in covert operations, skilled fighters. Hired for espionage and assassinations
Can you for God sake true to your fucking givn name mate. What this bullshit about not being angry man - about 130mm Howitzers being moved by the MFs. Get angry man, get very very angry.
That is the only way we can win.
/*Sadly these days all the news coming out of the war zone is pointing to a government victory. We know this is false because the LTTE are the supreme beings when it comes to terrorism and waging war. They can never ever be defeated. EVER.... we have no choice but to help out the LTTE in waging the propaganda war even though the propaganda war is the only war the LTTE are seem to be winning these days he further states.
- Mangala Samaraweera
*/
Is there no one in Sri Lanka to shoot this bugger down??
Pathetic!!
Saman Brother,
Angry people will never win fights, take my word for that, even a soldier should not get angry. You may have heard many times cricket commentators say blood rush is not good for anything.
Now about guns, you can get angry if want but can ypu explain to me how we can avoid certain things or actions being carried out byb tigers in their teritory?
We are still 4km off from Pooneryn-Paranthan road. Inbetween most difficult marshy terrain. You asking 58 to fly and stop heavy machinery and heavy guns from moving.
SLA is accomplishing things in the best way they can.
As Ninja say's if we have a matching air force there is no problem, we can destroy them even if they move it.
Problem is SLAF.
SLN is doing a excellent job on destroying sea tiger assets and war materials coming from out side.
SLA is doing their best to go forward, kill and capture teritory, we cannot ask them to do miracles! Can we?
Be sensible, mate.
History,
I thought you are a cool man who can keep his posture amidst pressure.
Mangala is a politician who oppose the present govt. If he says govt is correct on every thing and approve their actions, he is commiting political suicide. On the other hand there is a certain truth on what he says.
Read again and see!
History,
I thought you are a cool man who can keep his posture amidst pressure.
Mangala is a politician who oppose the present govt. If he says govt is correct on every thing and approve their actions, he is commiting political suicide. On the other hand there is a certain truth on what he says.
Read again and see!
Rana,
/*
Problem is SLAF.
*/
Not just a problem it is the mother of all (whatever) problems we have...
Guys,
I heard that the LTTE have built a defense line before Paranthan-Pooneryn road. Heavy fighting is expected here. May be they will man it until they transfer their assets to Paranthan. I also heard that LTTE casualties are very high, military is not giving the details for obvious reasons. It is also reported that military casualties are low and only few casualties are brought to the Anuradhapura hospital compared to those days. This is mainly because the 58th Division is advancing at a very high phase and LTTE is left with no time to place mines and booby traps.
Rana,
After all I am the history.. who with the name of this country can stand when history is repeating like this....
I can believe if a politician fighting against the present government.. but when I see people behind him, that hurt like nothing..
By the way that aggressive nature pump into me as I just finished reading this.. Gun gown TAF with their "Low Flying Aircrafts" something related to our old, long, winded argument about tin cans :-)
DW,
/*
Tigers would have to recalculate their arti trajectory, acquire new targets and locations on GPS and DGPS and make new maps based on these calculations on latitudinal and longitudinal grids from areas south of Muhamalai and Kilali upto Elephant Pass or even Paranthan if they are to effectively defend against a southwards push by the 53 Division and the Mechanized Infantry. This could take weeks, even months.
*/
Is this that hard.. getting GPS??
GPS is just a free service that anybody can have.. GPS receivers are cheap and every where.. if you don't have anything just use google you will get the GPS points.. what is this recalculation??
I am not buying that part..
Rana
I agree with you bro...
Saman/Moshey, let's not get ourselves in a twist at this moment bros...no compelling reason for it in my view.
The 130mm howz may have been moved under the cover of darkness and under intense armed escort by the LTTE (and this is where I too agree that SLAF must be the more vigilant party…and as Rana said, we don't quite expect SLA to fly 4km and set ambush to stop this kind of lethally protected maneuver)...but the word I got today from "Colombo" was that yes, although this is not something that we would like to see, in the end-game, no, actually it is NO FCUKING BIG DEAL!!!
The reason?
Intel has it that LTTE is acutely short of ammo for these “big-guns” and the only hope for replenishment was via TN...and this is why the SLA has been determined to seal off the west-coast (where LTTE got 95% of its supplies once the "floating warehouses" were sunk)...
So, yes, the whore-bastards/bitches may have the 130mm howz or even the 152mm artys in Mulativu, but what good would they be without ammo?
Instead of sacrificing a substantial number of our bravehearts to charge foolishly ahead and try to capture these guns, clearly the strategy has been to seal the west-coast and make these guns go numb from lack of ammo...quite like how a paper stapler is useless without staples or the analogy that I prefer, how useful a dick is to an impotent! LMSSAO!!!
So, rest easy patriots...do not let your blood boil...there are some nifty brains on our side in the execution of this war, and by and large, we can all agree that their strategies have paid hefty dividends to-date...right?
OaO Asithri
/*
The last thing us Lankan's need is more muslims in the country especially from the racist maldives where you need to convert to islam to get citizen.
*/
I thought AUS has already given the citizenship for these buggers.. it seems it is not the case..
Or else are they shopping around looking for a better offer??
Asithri,
Mate, good to hear from you alive and sharp with the facts.
History,
Your link is lead me to brouse a great article, it is written by some body (Nirosh) outside, isn't it? Not from SLAF!
So, I can't see the reason to be pumped up.
Mate, I have to send some drafts to Indonesia before COB today. I am going to read that article again later more leisurly.
He (Nirosh guy) seems to be a expert on the subject.
saman,
mate, i agree with you.
but ninja is our man as far as i know. he is trying to calm you (and me) down.
SLDFs should pull its act together and start killing when it is SAFER than put-off till the next year.
Rana
[Ranil may have thought sigining CFA was a master stroke but it was the worst thing ever happened in SL after independance. We were very lucky to reverse that mistake like this.]
Fully agree!
This motherfcuker is a traitor…A1 traitor! Thousands upon thousands of bravehearts died due to his folly (i.e. by allowing over 19 shiploads of LTTE weapons to come in and also for allowing LTTE infiltrate into every nook and cranny in the country – called “confidence building measures” under his CFA with the Fat Black Oily Ugly Pig!)….NO, in my view this PONNA BITCH must be crucified – burnt on a stake! What he has done to denigrate the achievements of SLDF bravehearts is mind boggling!
He even traveled all over the world and campaigned vigorously to get MR GOSL to stop this war against LTTE terrorists – just so that he can score cheap party-politics mileage!
No, time will come when this PONNA BITCH will be “held accountable” by the Sri Lankans…when that happens, I hope he will pay the due price for trying to prostitute our beloved Motherlanka for cheap political gain! No, he is “history” as far as we patriots are concerned.
Yes, today the PONNA BITCH has the gall to say, yes, “terrorism must be fought with military might”…as today he has been proven wrong many times over! Yes, his “day of reckoning” is not far I hear!
OaO Asithri
/*
So, I can't see the reason to be pumped up.
*/
It just remind me the threat.. and here I see even politician in south attacking the government.. that just blow out the frustration..
/*
it is written by some body (Nirosh) outside, isn't it? Not from SLAF!
*/
As per my guess... No way he is not SLAF
MohammedZ
[There is an expression that says that you should not hit a man when he is down, so I will refrain from replying to your posts.]
Brother, that rule is only for “men” and not terrorist maggots! Whereas baby/pregnant women killer terrorists are concerned, I say you should not only kick them in the teeth when they are down, but preferably, should put a gasoline-soaked tire over them and throw your cigarette at it!
LMSSAO!!!
OaO Asithri
kaati,
something we can agree.
i don't like this move not bcos they are muslims, but SL has enough "homeland" issues and has enough population.
but our learned politicians may think otherwise. money, votes, a chance to show-off their generosity/budhism and other BS will clog their minds.
there is a SL saying (don't know if its a folk saying or an official saying) that goes as........the kind-hearted woman is ALWAYS pregnant!!!!
unfortunately mother lanka has been tooooo kind that some thought they can get a homeland each time they screww her. suddenly the motherland turned fatherland and the screwer got screwed from 4 fronts!!
dear buddhist brothers and sisters, if you want to show what "maithree, karuna, mudithawa, upeksha" mean by offering permanant refuge in SL, please select a sri lankan, a plant or an animal.
Moshey
[NEVER postpone annihilation. the lower the number of hardcore terrorists in the mulaitivu jungles and in IDP camps, the better. An escaped terrorist is like an escaped game hunt. bugger gets more and more experienced, angry and skilled in the NEXT battle.]
Words of a wise man! How very profound!
Keep it up brother...you inspire us!
OaO Asithri
cheers asithri.
TropicalS
[We haven't heard of any LRRp ops for a while.]
Not quite! LRRP ops are happening, but now ever more closely to the "thieves den" as opposed to earlier...as such there is mum from SLA (so as to not compromise any further their positions) and yes, the LTTE scum are not saying anything either I hear, out of sheer embarrassment! LTTE has started suspecting some “mutinous” elements from within too I am told..and that in turn added to the wonderful doubts/confusion!
LMSSAO!!!
OaO Asithri
well said Moshey,
that is a nice tag line.. cheers
rana, asithri, ninja etc.,
1. take it easy guys, I just had a crack at ninja for fun. I am cool. No rush of blood.
2. I am fully aware SLA is not to blame (they are fantastic) but unhappy because SLAF did not attempt. I can live with it if attempted and missed. SLAF's innactiveness (not taking on 130s and earthbunds) making brave SLA cannon fodder. But they have better heads on their sholders.
Moshey / Wesa-balla
["This guy is advocating a federal system for merged North and East, which I totally oppose."
Disagreeing with someone is not the same thing as calling him "fcuking bastard."]
Well well, this disagreement is not about if I should have fries with/without gravy! Yes, and this disagreement is also not about whether humble OaOA should wear pink or purple underwear with of course, gold laces as always! LMSSAO!!!
No, on this “disagreement” is about the sovereignty and territorial integrity of our beloved Motherlanka.
Undoubtedly, when traitorous elements want to violate Motherlanka’s sovereignty and territorial integrity, they don’t do it directly, but often tend to come forward with terms like “N-E merger” “Federalism” “Interim Self-Governing Authority” etc. etc…as such, yes, most resoundingly I say that when you disagree with someone who utters such, it quite in order to call him a “fcuking bastard”…!!!
The moral of the story: Motherlanka’s sovereignty and territorial integrity is NON-NEGOTIABLE - period!
OaO Asithri
Renegade
[-are we still using our close-in 81/82 mm mortars?
-what about recoilless-guns?.i have observed that these are not based on any platform,like a truck or jeep for support and stabilisation but instead just placed on the ground.
-have the new and refurbished Mi-35 hinds with night-capability sensors put into action or are we still using the existing mi-24's]
Wow! Wow indeed!
Undercover LTTE whore-motherfcuker, how about we exchange information to stay fair and square?…you tell me if your whore-momma can “take in” a RM-70 shell “all the way in,” I will give you all the answers you asked for…!!! Game???
Phew!!!
LMSSAO!!!
OaO Asithri
OK time to go milk the fat ugly cow draped in red an yellow...
Catch you patriots later...keep cool till then...
OaO Asithri
Thanks Defencewire.
Your doing a great job to keep the blog going!
[Angry people will never win fights, take my word for that, even a soldier should not get angry. You may have heard many times cricket commentators say blood rush is not good for anything.]
Oh juvenile kid rana speaks about the anger now. You are the one who goes on tear when DW aunty fails to cook her stuff. Anyways, it shows how kiddish you are when you think the cricket commentators as your role models and even correlate their arse comments into national issues.
Are you the rana potato who played cricket for SL with his 9 month pregnant belly?
Hey Bhahirav,
Now who sounds angry? The whole ltte problem was due to a hate trip by certain people.
Glad to see that u seem out of it. Are we still on for a pint in downtown Kilinochchi?
DW, good one about betting on horses. Reading the terrorist-supporter losers comments I keep thinking of the expression 'clutching at straws'.
Having realised the end is nigh for the LTTE if the war continues, Navindran is hoping for the Sri Lankan economy to collapse. The other monkeys haven't realised even that yet (thama mole padila nehe), and are still waiting for the miracle counter-attack.
It is very entertaining now to read their pathetic posts.
Thanks asithri, see you later, mate!
Saman,brother,
We have no problems, mate. This blog is all about discussions and exchange of ideas. If we all think as one, we don't need to bolg!
You, Moshe, Ninja, History and Panhinda..etc all are having very healthy minds and do not hesitate to express freely what they think in a good constructive manner.
I value that freedom more than anything. You are amoung friends and do not hesitate to speak up.
asithri,
mate, leave this wesa-balla (aka wesa-pala) alone.
i have found the best way to screww the bugger - ignore.
bugger's plan is to be seen as a 'patriot' and then slowly poison the guys with tamil racism. he is still at the first stage and patriots should not have any problem with that.
the moment vesa-pillai start coming from wesa-pala's mouth, i will mount his mother, again. till then i hibernate.
nemesis,
thanks, mate.
Moshe,
mate, you wrote following:
/i have found the best way to screww the bugger - ignore.
bugger's plan is to be seen as a 'patriot' and then slowly poison the guys with tamil racism. he is still at the first stage and patriots should not have any problem with that.
the moment vesa-pillai start coming from wesa-pala's mouth, i will mount his mother, again. till then i hibernate./
bro, I am at a loss here. Exactly who is your "wesa Balla" or "wesa-pala"? Is it WIJAYAPALA? It seems, I have missed something, bro!
Moshe, Katti,
News on Maldives’s new president’s intention to buy land for Moldavians is an intriguing thought. I wish, if we had such far sighted leaders. Never heard before and in fact a reality they have to face. Good on him. I feel most costal areas of SL will go under water as well.
Some evidence that initial settlers of these fishiing islets were Sri Lankans (sinhalese) as they wer part of "hela bima". In fact we would have annexed those in 1948 when Brithish left if we were interested.
These thousand odd islands are very strategic to us as well. If we are not interested, India would be.
Why?
Remember some where in 1989 or so Uma Maheshwaren took some islands. Then India intervenes and bailed out Maldives. At that time I was in SL and in the thick of the things. Speculation was that it was an RAW plot. Apparently, until that time Abdul Gayum (educated in St. Thomas, ML) used to come to SL for every thing. In fact their major banks were Bank of Ceylon and Peoples Bank. Maldives used foreign missions in Colombo. Around the same period, it was also reported, based on a tip (no one knows who did that) to customs, our customs detained a Maldevian. Only a week after and few harresments, the detainee was Abdul Gayum (president at the time) was on his regular private visits to SL. This was a major diplomatic blunder. Also, media reported that, soon after that, Indian National Bank signed-up as the major bank of Maldives as well as Deli based foreign missins took over.
You may laugh your heads off if I say Maldives islands were part of “Hela Bima” long time ago and part of Sri Lanka. They talk Hala basa (Kumarathunga Munidasa’s) is still well preserved there although pronounce/sound as Arabic. Few examples,
- their language is called Divehi Bas
- Wathura tikak – pan podak (pronounce as fan fhodak)
- Names of islans “hikaduwa”, “dodanduwa”
We do not have land to few other Mother lands – but we must be smart enough not to walk out from the discussions, if that ever comes to that.
Anybody has any news on the Mankulam front? Wonder how the new task force is doing?
Defencewire?
saman,
all that is fine mate. but look at the reality.
1. their language will NOT be preserved in SL better than in india. in SL they will become sinhala or tamil in language.
2. they can seriously affect the population (by 1.5%) which is highly detrimental to this tiny country with a MASSIVE population density. if 300,000 hit one district, then there are other problems too. if 300,000 are divided into many districts, then their identity will be lost.
3. in india they will have much more economic and religious opportunities than SL.
4. as you said correctly india is already in it in a big way. so let them take the baby.
5. in SL indian labourers didn't create trouble. but when the TOTAL number of tamils increased, that led to trouble. had the british brought in hindi speaking ppl instead, things would not be so bad. going by the same token, an artificial increase of a group can cause a lot of problems.
6. but SL should have a selective migration process where wealthy/qualified INDIVIDUALS and their family members can migrate (from the maldives).
an outright mass movement - NO.
Moshe,
I agree. I was not suggesting at all we must buy in to that. Especially, I dont think we should "sell" even a sq. inch of our country to any one (not even to the Queen).
I don't think Indians would ever allow selling their land for Maldivians either.
The point is, strategically,we can not afford to ignore or walk away from these facts.
But there are different ways to skin a cat.
Rana,
This guy Bhahirav is not vicious like some of the others who want our blood no matter what.
what i can tell about Bhahirav is that he shifts between two gears from time to time. There are days where he actually make some sense and see the actual truth. and there are days when he kicks back to been a monkey. But over all we should commend him because out all the coolies here he is one with little bit of sanity. How long it would last that i am not sure.
Katch,
I know, mate. I had some long conversations with him earlier and found that, when he is beaten, he used to run away.
And the other thing is we cannot discuss defence matters with him becuase his brains also partially filled with VP's shit.
Malin,
bro, still I prefer wijayapala over bhairav to dicuss something openly and seriously. he is intelligent and knows his stuff too.
those that wonder how 130mm were moved without our knowledge,
its simple...
they just call in VP, stuff the 130 up his ar$e and take it to wherever they want.
i hear they have a whole Large Arse Brigade for logistics, when VP is unavailable. wonder if some of the online monkeys are part of LAB too?
same applies for tincans.
[Try for a some one similar to your capacity without wasting your time with mine.]
rana,
I already identified you as latest modaya on the block, and you are the perfect example of why Sinhalese have genetic mood swing problems.
Defencewire, I do not agree with you on most issues but this article is more objective and hope you can write in this light in the future.
History,
Oh man, I just managed to finish that air defence article. It is a good article, i learned few things from that.
It is a very thought provocating article, let me digest it further a bit. we will discuss it futher tomorrow.
Thank you for the link, mete.
Moshe,
Brother, I agree with you 100%. Wijayapala is the most able guy from the long list. If you have seen my earlier posts about a week ago, even Ninja or Saman laughed at me when I said "Wijayapala is the most moderate tiger lover or something". Moderate means, difficult to catch or difficult to expose to see what lies underneath.
However, he cannot do any harm to us, as long as we keep the unity within the camp and concentrate on attack defensive strategies.
On this Maldive thing, we need some time to digest whole issue. We should not jump the gun prematuerly. If we can allow that in controlled manner, we may gain economically from the move. After all all developed countries do that, they invite educated, wealthy and talented guys to come and reside in their countries to use them to raise their bar along with status.
Now now Bhahirav,
Mood swings are not the sole preserve of any particular race! People from all races can have mood swings!
Just imagine if VP had a positive mood swing during the ceasefire? We could have been sharing a pint in downtown Killinochchi! Since VP's mood swing went the other way, downtown Killi is down and about to be taken out!
Bhairav,
My Bro; how are you Yako?
Don't forget our date on the 24 Dec.
Remind Nutty, Browny, Petey and Marsy.
Get ready to party. Do you think you can wait that long.
BTW, I just watched a YuoTube link from Lanakweb. I felt nauseous just watching it. It showed what the Dhalits of India have to do for the so-called high-castes. They are angry! Looks like your brothers in TN will have their hands full soon. The Dhalit cause is the true cause in South Asia brother. We should all be putting pressure on India to enforce the law to liberate the Dhalits. I can see now that you guys really thought that we were Dhalits didn't you? Well, even the animals of 1983 could be considered kind in comparison to what the Dhalit anger could do to your supporters in TN.
Wijepala,
regarding "Sanghams"; agreed that sanghams refer in general to what we would call samithi. But the word Sangha has to be the root of it IMHO. Sangha did not exist prior to the Buddha or Maha Veera as far as I know. There is considerable doubt as to existence of Sangham culture prior to some way through the 1st millennium CE. So I would postulate that what is called "Tamil Sanghams" today did not exist at all. I would really like to see words that refer to "Tamil Sanghams" in ancient records. I don't think there is such records.
BTW, I don't know your history but you seem to have really pissed off some of the brothers here. You and Moshe appear to have an ongoing feud.
I don't want to get in between but may be it was a mistake to use the word "Modaya" in anger. After all that is what the "Tamil"cousins with their "othering" mindset use. If you are gonna call a brother "nigger" then do so with good humour. (e.g. Yo Moshe, how are you nigger!) and not in anger (e.g. Moshe you f#@ing modaya!).
I for one am not convinced that you are an LTTE mole at this stage. Neither am I a complete fool. I know that people can hide their identities and one has to consider all theories as plausible in a war.
M ravana,
a good one bro, I know Moshe seems to be pissed off with Wijayapala for something but in my theory all are innocent until proven guilty!
hey, BTW, when you say things with your blog name, it reminds me of my mothers father (seeya), bro!
He was 6'4" tall and almost like "GOTAYIMBARA" with broad shoulders and lot of hair (mayil) all over the body, specially in the face, chest and back.
he used to tell me most facinating stories when I was very young. I loved to be in his lap listening to his folklore.
Oh, what a fond memories!!! I will anything to go back to that age again to be with my seeya!!
I see the typical lankan mentality in these modayas likes of Moshy, rana and few others, who often depend on their patriotic bandwagon to support their views.
If you analysis the evolution of moshy on this blog, you will find out how rapidly these folks can change. Moshy started as statistician who relatively maintained the moderate views early, but it was short lived once his fellow modayas started to appreciate his garbage statistical models that put him in strong position to look for more popularity here, then come sudden rise of another born filthy scumbag,Assithri, who really made an influence on Moshy who finally decided to jump into filth game with hawkish and racist mix in order to gain more popularity among these modayas. His low point of DW stay was that he jumped into WP who infact is not a pro-Tamil but moshy stamped him as LTTE supporter to get advantage on him, unfortunately most of the Sinhalese are modayas, so these modayas believed what moshy said about WP.
Simply you can put Moshy's evolution in 3 phases, of them, first was bitch, second was slut, now whore.
What makes even funny here is that rana juvenile found out after moshy's comment that WP is pro-Tamil...ha ha ha..what a bunch of modayas. I still have in LTTE bcoz of these modayas.
I still have faith in LTTE bcoz of these modayas.
Hey Bhahirav,
You say that you are still with the ltte because of these modayas!
Now that's not saying anything much about yourself! Why are you allowing people whom YOU consider fools to determine what you think?
Do u still believe that the ltte is the only hope for the tamils?
Of course I don't expect you to be a SL govt supporter straight away. But at least you need to call a spade a spade with regard to the ltte!
Modayas,
Why don't you ask DW to update you on what is happening in Mankulam? I see a few chena boys are anxious about the situ in Mankulam, did I not say to expect it? News will be out in a few days, and the words, rout and debacle come to mind.
LBO says the small town of Palavi has been taken. Not quite sure where that is. Possibly close to Poonaryn or on that road.
Hye Mahen,
You are back! I cn picture some of our bloggers licking their lips when they see you :)
Words like rout and debacle are big words for you Mahen, just like genocide is too big a word for many tamils to understand!
So tell us Mahen, what did u dream of about Mankulam? I looked for u there but couldn't find u!! So I wonder who tells u these bedtime stories?
Moda Dying,
We will see whose bitch you are. Is Mankulam giving your mood swings? Aren't your Tamil girlfriends putting out enough? Are you frustrated?
Mahen podiyan
DW will report when Mankulam is taken in a few days, till the shut the darn gap
learn to pee straight before you talk of bigger things
Shani,
DW will report the "fall" of Mankulam, but the "fall" will be from your side. Expect surprises Chena boys.
Mahen,
We know that yesterday's bedtime story of Mankulam was what put u to sleep last night.
What's tonight's bedtime story? Mind letting us in on the secret little fella?
Why do I need to tell you secrets. Just keep checking Tamilnet and Puthinam. Can you count the number of TMVP and STF camps that were attacked in the past week. There was one attacked yesterday madams. The counter attack is staring you in the face and you can't even see the obvious.
Moda Dying,
Why don't you go back to harvesting?
I have something to share with you guys but how do I add a link to my post? " defence column " can u please help?
Tamilnet & Puthinam before bedtime?
I guess some of their stories would certainly give little red riding hood a run for her money!!
Did u learn about the loss of Madhu, Vidathalthivi, illuppaik'vai, Nachchikuda, Thunikkai, Mallavi, not to mention the entire eastern province FROM tamilnet & puthinam?
Have u thought for a moment, what would happen to the tamil diaspora if the tigers were to give a true account of what happened? Would the majority of them continue their support for the ltte? So the tigers need this kind of propaganda!
Granted that the SL govt also has it's propaganda! That's why we come to this blog for a honest discussion.
Why do u really come here Mahen?
thoughtfulguy,
Description
give the "description" what you want.
URL is the https://// thingy.
mz,
deleted my crap. just wanted to chase away the monkeys!
thoughfulguy,
check it out here.
http://bloggerfordummies.blogspot.com/2006/03/how-to-make-clickable-link.html
Just bed time folks. her is my bed time story to all the monkeys.
Lately, lots and lots of hanumans are comming our way. Unlike those days, although rama set their tails on fire, they can't burn our land except their own puke mile is burning.
We must drive them to the sea exactly as Rawana did. May be we must get Sitha and screw her too.
If you find fucking Siva Linga do not give it to ladies stick that right-up the...you know what.
If you find their God - half elephant and half Vezapulle - bring it to Dehiwala Zoo so that we can spit on it.
Nice dreams.
Cheers Moshe, I think you succeeded, the maggots have gone.
SCENARIOS - Where is Sri Lanka's war heading?
Yesterday, 01:18 pm
C. Bryson Hull
Sri Lanka's government on Monday rejected a reiterated Tamil Tiger offer of a cease-fire out of hand, saying surrender or defeat are the only options left now for their opponents in a 25-year-old war. Skip related content
Analysts say the military is making gains and has the unflinching support of President Mahinda Rajapaksa in its mission to wipe out one the world's most ruthless and effective insurgent groups. Here are some scenarios of what could happen next:
FLANKING THE TIGERS: The military for the last month has said it was on the edge of the rebel capital of Kilinochchi, 330 km (205 miles) north of the capital Colombo. The fighting is heavy at several points encircling the town, and the rebels appear to be dug in well behind a maze of trenches and defences. But while the world's focus has been on that target -- the capture of which would provide a strategic advantage and a morale boost for the military -- soldiers have battled hard up the northwestern coast. Troops broke through Nachikkudah, a base for the rebel "Sea Tiger" naval units, a few weeks ago after more than a month of sustained, bloody combat. That cleared the way for soldiers to sweep rebels out of the Devil's Point area north of Nachikkudah while simultaneously heading for Pooneryn.
TAKING POONERYN: The Defence Ministry on Monday said soldiers were crossing the marshes south of Pooneryn, advancing on that strategic spit of land. Tiger artillery batteries there have kept soldiers garrisoned on the Jaffna Peninsula from crossing south towards Kilinochchi. Seizing Pooneryn would open up the A32 road that follows the northwest coast and give the army control of nearly all of the main north-south A9 road to Jaffna. Mechanised units in Jaffna would be free to move south. Kilinochchi would be encircled on three sides.
TIGERS HEAD EAST: With Kilinochchi under pressure, defence analysts say the Tigers have moved more battle-hardened troops there to defend it. But if the army takes Kilinochchi, the rebels would be forced into the jungle -- to which they are accustomed -- and to move east towards the port of Mullaitivu they still control. The army is advancing towards Mullaitivu from the south and southwest with nearly three full divisions and two weeks ago deployed Task Force III -- a new unit shy of division strength -- to fight east along the A34 road that terminates in Mullaitivu.
KILINOCHCHI FALLS: If that happens, analysts and market players say they expect a brief boost to the Colombo Stock Exchange and maybe some temporary relief to depreciation pressure on the rupee. But both tend to move on their own fundamentals after decades of war. Neither are looking good now amid a global financial crisis and an IMF warning that Sri Lanka's economic growth could be at risk if the country doesn't cut spending, stop supporting the rupee and ease reliance on expensive foreign short-term debt.
COUNTERATTACK: The Tigers could do what they have done after losing ground in the 1980s and 1990s, which is regroup and come back hard. But security analysts say the army is three times bigger and much more hardened than it was in the those days, with better weapons and tactics -- especially its use of small commando units for counterinsurgency and intelligence gathering. Anti-terrorism laws have also hit the Tigers' weapon supply, as has the sinking of much of its merchant smuggling fleet by the Sri Lankan navy, with foreign help.
COLOMBO ATTACKS SPIKE: Many analysts are surprised the Tigers have not unleashed more suicide bombings and unconventional attacks in the capital Colombo in response to being pressured up north. Their rudimentary air force of small civilian planes converted for guerrilla use bombed a power station in Colombo on October 28, and there have been at least seven blasts in the city since August 30. But the city is under heavy security and the government has no compunction about carrying out heavy-handed sweeps of Tamil areas to avert future attacks.
mahen mahen you dumbo
you go on and on with your futile attempts..
yes we've had a lot of surprise and all of them came from the SLA courtesy 57,58 and 59. now 53 and 55 are ready to surprise you any moment. yep, expect surprises at Mankulam, but vacating and withdrawing from Mankulam is no surprise at all, the Army has seen it everywhere.
Shan, You probably couldn't resist the entertainment provided by Mahen :D
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And please spread the word to all sri lankans. the objective is to make the rural youth educated and more knowledgabale on what is happening around them
Hey, Good work thoughtful guy.
Thanks, we have a couple of other projects on the drawing board too..... plz do spread the word as we want as much feedback as we can....
Defencewire and Da
defence.lk reports that part of Kumulamunai has been liberated.
What is the strategic siginificance of Kumulamunai? does it bring the heavy guns within rage of Mullaitivu?
I rememebr you or DN had a post which mentioned the importance ... would you mind
cheers katch
Shan, Cheers mate!
Hi Rana,
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Oh man, I just managed to finish that air defence article. It is a good article, i learned few things from that.
It is a very thought provocating article, let me digest it further a bit. we will discuss it futher tomorrow.
Thank you for the link, mete.
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Great to hear that.. I have seen Nirosh visiting this blog at times.. so will try catch him too for the discussion..
Moshe,Rana,
We were on this topic a bit today. I think MR knows how to work with regional leaders big or small.
On his way to India, Rajapakse will stop over in the Maldives to attend the oath-taking ceremony of the Maldives' fourth President Mohamed Nasheed scheduled to be held on Tuesday.
Palavi captured:
http://www.defence.lk/new.asp?fname=20081111_05
Ponnaveli captured:
http://www.army.lk/morenews.php?id=18072
Kumulamunai partly captured:
http://www.defence.lk/new.asp?fname=20081111_08
Especially Kumulamunai looks interesting. If looking at Google map, then there is a huge, wet, open area with a river in the middle between Tannimurippu Kulam and Kumulamunai. Probably has been difficult to cross for the 59th but seem to be crossed now. The LTTE's main road in the area also cut.
infinity
bloody good day, SLA on F1 mode, full speed ahead
or is it FYAH's mode?
Two more bite the dust in Amparai.
Yo Peter,
You've turned up again!
Why r u counting ones and two's when your own people are dying by the dozens or even the hundreds!
Isn't it better to surrender and save their lives?
DW
I have a clarification. If this is a sensitive infomation, pardon me. don't share.
When LRRP units are deep inside in the terror jungles, how do they keep communication going with the command center. Regular 'communication sets' are too vulnerable in this regard I guess.
"Two more bite the dust in Amparai."
- Peter
How on earth you kill your own people and then celebrate over it with such a joy?
Peter, You are
indeed a cannibal!!!
casper
we all knew that long time back
where is the humbug with yellow fever,
saw him get a bashing yesterday.
Yo Casper!
you said "How on earth you kill your own people and then celebrate over it with such a joy?
Peter, You are
indeed a cannibal!!!"
What about our beloved GoSL, they are bombing and shelling on innocent civilians claiming to be their own people,every day and killing them in dozens.
How do you catogorize them mate?
And how come suddenly you all have shedding tears for some tamil morons killed by the LTTE in the east?
They are no use at all and they deserved what they had.
அம்பாறை உகந்தை வனப்பகுதியில் ஊடுருவிய சிறிலங்கா சிறப்பு அதிரடிப்படையினரின் அணி ஒன்றை தமிழீழ விடுதலைப் புலிகள் வழிமறித்து தாக்கியதில் சிறப்பு அதிரடிப்படையைச் சேர்ந்த உயர்திகாரி ஒருவர் உட்பட இரண்டு படையினர் கொல்லப்பட்டனர். ஒருவர் படுகாயம் அடைந்தார்.
இன்று செவ்வாய்க்கிழமை முற்பகல் 10:00 மணியளவில் இச்சம்பவம் இடம்பெற்றுள்ளது.
anee i-yhing thopi roth-thata ara thung saranee saranaai!
jaathika weeraya
goothilaka!
jathika horaaa
jaraaa paksha,
vi-jaathika ponnaya
gontaabaya!
kollnee, kohomada kilinochchi wandanaaa gamanaa!
wanda,wanda bahina mee-nadeeta maga digatama mala keliyaai!
endakoo, kilinochchi bonda KURAMBAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!
"LTTE ready for truce"!!!!!
-When the Going Gets Tough - The Tough Get Going...
yes, the cardboard warriers (a.k.a. the peelamists) are 'going' in their pants!!!!
hallucinating peter and gonta...
- where is peelam IV now? In Colombo?
Hoot! Hoot!! Hoot!!!!!!!!
http://www.hindu.com/2008/11/10/stories/2008111056271400
Mayilravana,
"regarding "Sanghams"; agreed that sanghams refer in general to what we would call samithi. But the word Sangha has to be the root of it IMHO. Sangha did not exist prior to the Buddha or Maha Veera as far as I know. There is considerable doubt as to existence of Sangham culture prior to some way through the 1st millennium CE. So I would postulate that what is called "Tamil Sanghams" today did not exist at all. I would really like to see words that refer to "Tamil Sanghams" in ancient records. I don't think there is such records."
Whether or not the actual "Sangams" existed (it's hard to say because India in general did not have written historical traditions as in SL), the Sangam literature was written and preserved to the modern date. I think you missed my point that there isn't anything in the Sangam literature that would support the notion of a separate Tamil Eelam in ancient times.
"BTW, I don't know your history but you seem to have really pissed off some of the brothers here. You and Moshe appear to have an ongoing feud."
It started a few months ago when I called Moshe a "modaya" for referring to Anandasangaree as a "cunning bastard" (recently upgraded to "fcuking bastard") Perhaps I should've used a different term but I would not retract what I said. Sangaree gets enough crap from the LTTE supporters that anyone who is truly anti-LTTE could never tolerate any rubbish piled onto him by pseudo-patriots like Mushe.
"If you are gonna call a brother "nigger" then do so with good humour. (e.g. Yo Moshe, how are you nigger!) and not in anger (e.g. Moshe you f#@ing modaya!)."
No, Mushe is definitely a "f#@ing modaya" and I have to call it as it is. Any dimwit who insults one of the few Tamils who has the balls to stand up to the LTTE is not my "brother," no matter how "patriotic" he believes himself to be. Cyril Mathew called himself a patriot and look at the mess he got Sri Lanka into in 1983.
"I know that people can hide their identities and one has to consider all theories as plausible in a war."
The fact remains that the outcome of the war in SL will not be determined by what some bloggers here think. The MOD has ignored all of Mushe's ranting emails, while posting Anandasangaree's statements on army.lk and defence.lk. All of pete and shart's whining here does not and will not change the fact that the "modayas" and "chena boys" are pounding their asses in the Wanni.
Bhairav,
"His low point of DW stay was that he jumped into WP who infact is not a pro-Tamil but moshy stamped him as LTTE supporter to get advantage on him, unfortunately most of the Sinhalese are modayas, so these modayas believed what moshy said about WP."
Just as Mushe mislabeled me as LTTE supporter, you have mislabeled me as not being pro-Tamil. I see myself as equally pro-Tamil as pro-Sinhala. In fact, anyone who is pro-LTTE is contributing to the destruction of the Tamils in Sri Lanka and can never be "pro-Tamil."
"You say that you are still with the ltte because of these modayas!
"Now that's not saying anything much about yourself! Why are you allowing people whom YOU consider fools to determine what you think?"
I have to agree with katch's reasoning here- you aren't saying anything positive about yourself.
[http://www.defence.lk/new.asp?fname=20081109_02]
Classic display of exemplary action by SLDF.
Keep giving these surprises to the pessimists... in your unique, anti-hero style.
You truly make Motherlanka proud!
Interesting post by DW.
Evaluating the past six weeks it is clear that the GOSL cannot but suppress the high SLA casualties. In a round about way, I think that is good—it is sign of a democracy at work despite this horrible war. Clearly, civilians are affected by the news of their KIA loved ones, and they might develop war fatigue. In times of such dire national security concerns, democracies have to make the bitter news less so.
I am often surprised by the cavalier manner of the expectations that the LTTE will be defeated overnight. Even 500 hardcore fighters can cause much pain to an advancing army. The current estimate of 5000 fighters should give pause any such optimism.
LEFT HOOK
The Left Hook of the SLA through Mannar to Killinochchi was in retrospect brilliant. The LTTE expected the SLA to fight their way through the Jaffna-Vavuniya axis and the SLA simply out witted them when the move began from Mannar up the coast.
Even with the left hook, it was disguised. When the SLA moved up the Western coast it seemed that Pooneryn was the object. (That was my preference too, given the need to remove the LTTE heavy guns that were making the Mahamulai-Kilai front costly for the SLA and the need to connect Jaffna to Colombo via a land route.)
With the LTTE hardening the Nachichikuda area to slow down the advance North, the Left Hook to Killinochchi was brilliantly executed leaving the SLA within 20 km of the LTTE “capital”. The loss of political prestige that this caused the LTTE cannot be underestimated. It has led to a shift in thinking abroad that the LTTE is finished as a conventional fighting force, and thus any forced route to independence is done and over with.
POLITICS OF WAR
Also useful in this exercise—in political terms—has been the destruction of the myth about military action against a non-state actor. Given the mythical status of the LTTE, its losses reverberate much further, all the way to the Department of Defence in the US. In the coming months, the US will redeploy to Afghanistan. They will come in not with the heavy fighting force necessarily, but with a politico-military strategy directly from the SLA-LTTE war.
What the DoD has learned from the LTTE reversal is the need for the Karuna factor and the use of small teams. Both are now in evidence in the strategy unveiled by the new US commander. It is no coincidence that the US Pacific Fleet commander is backing the SLA efforts.
For the US there is another longer term concern: preventing the GOSL from getting any closer to China. The Indo-US consensus this is encouraging for the Rajapakse government, who now need to rein in their Chinese sentiments somewhat and reciprocate Indian concerns vis-à-vis Tamilnadu, by being visibly interested in saving innocent Thamil lives, especially the human shields being used by the LTTE.
Rather than a cease fire, I therefore hope the war will slow down with the objectives of the Killinochchi and Pooneryn achieved. From then on, the GOSL should focus on LRRP missions to decapitate and destabilize the LTTE’s hold on the population. As part of this civilian focused war, the GOSL should attempt to use the offices of the international community to force the LTTE to allow IDPs to return to their vacated homes. Separating the LTTE from the people is not an easy task, but it must be done, and this is the best time to make a start. That being said, the usual caveats must be noted: there has to be a systematic screening of IDPS to determine which ones are LTTE and which ones not--science can come to help here.
Political Observer
I noticed the rancour in these pages. I can understand the GOSL vs. LTTE variation, which is inevitable, even if is unfortunate. But, the quality of debate between Sri Lanka sovereignty supporters can also get rather poor, as it seems many Sri Lankans are sniping at each other. That is too bad.
For example Moshe Dyan and Wijepala both offer good analysis, and should bury the hatchet. I like Wijepala’s contributions to in terms of their political sophistication, even though in such a forum it is wasted. He should be writing in one of the major Sri Lankan newspapers encouraging ethnic harmony and the need for the GOSL to treat Thamils with even greater respect than is afforded now. Moshe is a tactical guy, and not a political guy, so to take him in this forum is not useful.
In the context of the latest exchange, I must say that Mr. Anandasangree is cunning, as Moshe put in no uncertain term. Anandasangaree is a ‘soft separatist’ as I term him in the Lanka Academic site, where I have an open letter to him (of course he will never reply!). The soft separatists are long term Eelamists. Their strategy is first N+E for devolution using India, then separatism.
I hope Moshe and Wijeyapala can stand down and refocus their abundant energies on other matters.
P.O.
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