Today marks an important milestone in the Sri Lanka Army's history. The town of Pooneryn fell into the hands of the troops after the 58 Division managed to capture the Pooneryn-Paranthan road in the morning. Soon, two brigades will shake hands across the Jaffna lagoon.
The threat to Jaffna has been reduced by at least 50%. Troops will now march towards Paranthan and then towards Kilinochchi, which will soon be surrounded from the south, north and the west. The jubilant Army Commander, the man behind the entire mission, congratulated Brigadier Shavendra Silva in a telephone conversation this morning. Brigadier Silva and his men from the Commando Regiment were the main ingredients of the success.
As we had predicted, the Pooneryn-Paranthan road was bisected by the 58 who crossed the open marshlands tediously resulting in the immediate fall of Pooneryn, which was abandoned by the LTTE by that time. As we have pointed out earlier, the LTTE had withdrawn its 130mm guns from the peninsula-- a former hive of LTTE activity. They had also removed their 122mm mortars.
Task Force 1 troops put their full force behind the thrust after capturing Devil's Point three days ago. Devil's point was captured after a tactical crossing of an area with many natural obstacles.
Saturday, November 15, 2008
Pooneryn falls, Paranthan next
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As I see ravana's worry is about celebration. He should be some military related man. But in this world we have to live with politicos.
Only way I can see a garanteed LTTE victory is CFA. That's why I wrote we need to avoid CFA. Ans I do believe now our SLA know how to deel with politicos. So, despite political celebrations I hope SLA will be doing the very right things.
Extracted from the article in Sunday Observer (link previously posted by DC) on the interviewing of the liberated tiger cadre-teacher:
"… As they were losing manpower in the battle fields, the LTTE ordered their cadres in all other units to undergo combat training and Kugatharshini too was sent to a 15-day refreshment military course in Wishwamadu. After training, we were taken to guard the coast line along Pooneryn. They told us lies that there was not much fighting involved as the Army could not resist the LTTE", she owned up. ..."
Well, isn't this the same myth we hear from our cyber warriors such as Peter/Thiru/Mahen?
This is what they are feeding tamils everywhere. The common misunderstanding is that tigers are doing the cheating part and diaspora and wanni tamils are fooled. This is wrong. A good majority of diaspora and the higher ranks of tigers do the cheating part. the lower ranks of tigers, few of diaspora and helpless wanni civilians are the cheated lot.
Does anyone think that Mahen/Thiru or Peter believe in any of the crap they seem to show as believing. For an example see how naked the cheating of Mahen. He predicted that they will re-capture Nachchikuda before 27th of Nov. And that is such a funny choice. If you look at map you'd realize that Nachchikuda is so deep inside SLDF liberated region. Only a sea-borne attack and amp-landing can take it back. So why would he state a double layered crap about Nachchikuda, why not talk about the re-taking of Akkarayan, Kokavil or Mallavi, which is a logical possibility (although tigers can hardly breath).
The reasons can only be logically deduced. Firstly this re-take is not even delivered in punnakku channels. It is a pure cook-up in his head. Secondly it is used as a way to provoke all.
Ppl like Mahen never believes in the shit they pour here. He maybe one of who bought some houses in Jaffna to re-sell after SLDF diffuse the menace.
However the poor Wanni ppl are made blind to believe the nonsense. And they do believe it as they have been cut off for past 15years or so from the rest of the world. The usual crap that Mahen and co drops here is gospel truth to poor siblings of them living under the cadjan roofs of sandy wanni plains.
And when we do not believe it like them, Mahen and co get angry. Not because that they speak with belief, but because they are not used to anyone not believing in their crap.
Why I wrote all this was to point out a critical factor. Vast majority of Wanni ppl are buying the tiger punnakku. That is the prime reason for them being able to hang on to whatever level possible. Although SLDF can take up the rest of the land and neutralize/disarm the cadres, that will come at a heavy cost to the ppl who live under the maniac. Time has come to start the war in a different front. And that is to educate the blind civilians.
We ought to start a huge propaganda campaign in order to make sure every individual living in tiger den understand the ground realities thoroughly. Leaflets, electronic media, frequency overlaps (with existing punnakku channel frequencies), walkie-talkie break-in for lowlevel cadres and whatever other means of communication. We need to start a huge information warfare covering the wanni population, most importantly the lower level cadres who is used as canon-fodder and safety barrier for the CA and IP “heroes” to run away. Even if they support tigers, they will stop it upon realizing that they are in a loosing battle.
Nevertheless, the war will continue and if possible extend to the maniacs of Mahen and co as well.
rana,
of course, no ceasefire now. SLDFs should ensure that LTTE has nothing left to force a ceasefire.
never forget the following possibility.
when LTTE gets beaten really hard and gets trapped into mulaitivu, they might declare a halt to hostilities. the onus will be on GOSL to accept it. IC/india/religious leaders will be on GOSL's back.
even moderates will back it very hard.
the govt will have to go against ALL THIS to keep fighting.
the only way out is to avoid such an eventuality by HARVESTING more and more when we have the chance.
Ravana
Q #1.why government wants to celebrate poneryn this much?
This gvnt solely depends on the success of war. Probably, we have some election next year. Gvnt celebrations is part of thier coming election campaign. However, such celebration will affect LTTE/ thier cadres moral and in general favours GSL/SLDF. A TNA MP said this is not big deel. In theory no matter this is big deel or not; GSL should make it a big deel and LTTE should make it no big deel. Both parties do right things.
#2.foe past 30 years how many places we captured and gone back?
So many.
#3.what is assurance it will not going to happened this time.
No assurance. Its our faith on SLA.
#4.what is purpose of having "Ranawiru week" before we captured KILI.
Ranawiru week is ok. We don't have to wait until we end the war to this. It will boost the troops moral and prepare public for the rest of the war. And also politicos will score - this may be the real reason.
did any one believe capturing PONERyn is better than kili?
Yes I did and do. Opening A32 to Jaffna IS a big thing + cut off LTTE west coast supply line.
#5.what do you think the great victory you want fro this war?
SLDF should be able to walk any where in this country when they want. (Both in Colombo and Ampara claymores explode and people get shot but police can go. This should be the case for north as well.)
NOTE: This can happen only if SLA get 4-5 130mm guns, 20-25 120mm/122mm guns, 70mm/80mm motar guns, 5-10zlins, top 10 LTTE leaders, large number of hard core cadres.
Rana,
that's why i have asked you all to see the battle field map closely.
** see if we go to capture Parantan and moved from there we have god risk by hitting us by our back.
** pushing 53/55 is not a best thinking because of the mars no man area.
**kilinochchi is already a banded no one there.latest aerial photos shown no one at at least in the main street.even from the private cellular tower only exchange 120 signal for the past 4 days.capturing kili is not and big effort right now.
but guys see the tactics from the LTTE they keep pushing us from every front and safe guard the Mulathiv.that mean the have some much offire power.if you happy or not celbrating like this not make any happy our big brother India.they clearly wants to finish the war but in different manner.which we called "silently"
** what is meaning of president asking them to come for a ceasefire after laiddown arms.if they laid down arms then why we need to talk with LTTE.
Ninja,
Machan, If we go for CFA now, it is a bloody disaster and we are spiting to our brave hearts who gave their precious life foe this war.
No, I will not agree to any CFA now.
This is the time to see through, MR said that too, if he changed that now, due to any reason, he also can f**k off, as far as I am concerned.
Moshe,
What you said is make sense, bro.
Rawana,
I believe the celebrations over Pooneryn are a thrust to promote the budget and outflank elements that are readying themselves to vote against the budget. viz. JVP. i.e. Make an environment such that voting against the budget will create immense public disgust at the JVP if they actually do vote against it.
In fact we could consider passing the budget as a militray operation itself. We could theorize that JVP has actually hastened certain military operations due to their stand. Govt , SLDF can't be blamed if this is the case.
Then again I might be totally wrong.
Ravana,
I see what you meant but I don't like it. If we have to by pass Kili, I don't mind it.
We must take Paranthan and EP. It is a must to bring 55 and 53 down.
I will not settle for any thing else!!!
MD/ninja/Rana,
what we achieved is significant ,doesn't matter if it is poonakeri or murukkanid.
no one wants do drag this to another year..another year or so.we wants finish this.but in tactics if we fight in multiple front mean in one stage we all know their hardcore carders coming to an absolute one front.what you all want be that?i mean the last fight.
i am seeing this blog for a so long,sorry guys all of you believe this war is like mulleriya or Ellary/dutugamnunu war,everyone gathered to one point and one fight who ever the wins will be the winner.this is not such a war.
I'm confused about this move from the government.we do not want to celebrate.so far up to now we need 15000 to 20000 men to hold what we got.
rana/ninja machang,
in a tactical war most important thing is man power.now it is in 12:1 ratio.we need to save as much as lives.if we lost significant of men in this war then even we 've won how we hold the area is questionable.
comparing to them we have 100 to 200 130mm.
but the most important 130mm in srilanka is there 5 howitzers.thats tell the story.
**defenitly theres no Q from tomorrow 57 will be pushing towards kili not task 1.task force will be pushing towards to mankula.thats good.but do not forget guy last week we have lost 130 with 11 officers .
please please guys do not rush to celebrate.that make no sense to brave hearts.
thambala, your right brother.
rana/ninja machang,
in a tactical war most important thing is man power.now it is in 12:1 ratio.we need to save as much as lives.if we lost significant of men in this war then even we 've won how we hold the area is questionable.
comparing to them we have 100 to 200 130mm.
but the most important 130mm in srilanka is there 5 howitzers.thats tell the story.
**defenitly theres no Q from tomorrow 57 will be pushing towards kili not task 1.task force will be pushing towards to mankula.thats good.but do not forget guy last week we have lost 130 with 11 officers .
please please guys do not rush to celebrate.that make no sense to brave hearts.
thambala, your right brother.
Thambala
JVD did vote against the budget. But, of course gvnt used pooneryn in parliment.
Ravana
You are right. LTTE so far didn't do any fight until death. And I don't expect such a fight from LTTE. You all fight until death then after that what? nothing. no peelaam. LTTE may use thier hard core if they deicde they can make a decesive victoru such as gatting a good CFA. Otherwise they never fight; they will go underground and go for guarilla war for the rest of thier life. Ultimate goal of LTTE is peelaam not winning one battle. Ultimate goal of GSL is to establish law and order. These two goals are not comparable and make things complicated as it is now.
getting late.. thanks for the chat have few things to update will do in the.night
thanks ninja thats what we want more focus on the our final goal.thats where we all have to celebrate.
ninja,
thanks.
"winning normal tamils" is politically correct, but, this is a bit tricky.
what should happen is to have a system where tamils, etc. HAVE TO depend on an undivided SL to survive and prosper.
heaping benefits on tamils just because they are tamils is VERY dangerous. that will be like what the british did to them.
i do not like to consider the hearts and minds campaign as the SOLE or MAIN political weapon (it is a BIG political weapon no doubt)to keep the country in one piece.
what if they get everything and said "we have graduated from grievances to aspirations"!!?? in other words "thank you for everything now "honda hithin" give our tamil aspirations, otherwise you cannot win our hearts and minds"!!
along with development, "ethnic mixing" (the reversal of ethnic cleansing) in north & east (where the problem is) should happen. in other words, you put pro-SL ppl there and shift the average tendancy towards SL. it also FRUSTRATES the tamil elam project.
janaka perera (b4 2007) had this plan. his colonisation plans (whatever the moral issues were) paid off very well.
this two way strategy must be used. then national security will not depend on "satisfied hearts and minds" but on hearts and minds that HAVE NO OTHER OPTION than support SL.
can you see the difference?
ananda-usa,
jeezz
something must be wrong in the gene pool of these guys. so much violence. they can't live without it.
no wonder so many tamil movies which glorify bloodshed. i guess these movies are popular because thats what they want to watch.
these ppl must be taught the essence of Buddhism - living in harmony with your environment and other ppl.
MD
/what should happen is to have a system where tamils, etc. HAVE TO depend on an undivided SL to survive and prosper.
heaping benefits on tamils just because they are tamils is VERY dangerous. that will be like what the british did to them./
EXACTLY!
In fact, even now those tamils live in SL (not potential diaspora) know they need whole SL for thier success. It our system make problems for them mostly due to langauge and politics.
Actualy, what we realy need to have is a smooth admin system and make the political influance minimal. This will solve 90% issue of an avarage tamil guy.
/what if they get everything and said "we have graduated from grievances to aspirations"!!??/
Well, this already happened. The famous no 1 tamiz racist Kumar Ponnambalam finaly said they have aspirations and time is over talking about greviences, after very sound counter arguements from the his opponent, in a debate.
Its in TN tamiz first demanded seprate country and India knew how to handle it and GSL had no idea when they started it here; still learning.
/along with development, "ethnic mixing" (the reversal of ethnic cleansing) in north & east (where the problem is) should happen./
Believe me: Give security and infrastructure (roads). Sinhalese will go to Jaffna/wanni and do business. GSL just need to faciltate legel side.
ninja,
the WAR started bcos of underdeveloped/slightly marginalised tamils.
but SEPERATISM started bcos of overdeveloped (than the rest of the tamils due to caste shitt)/favoured/had more power than should have.. tamils.
agree???
but this is a seperatism LED war. what does that mean?
that means the overdeveloped (than the rest of the tamils due to caste shitt)/favoured/had more power than should have.. tamils DRIVE the underdeveloped/slightly marginalised tamils to death in the name of TE.
also (out of academic interest) think of the opposite.
what would have happened IF underdeveloped/slightly marginalised tamils was DRIVING the others? it will be a classic insurgency not separatism.
so the political solution,
1. development for underdeveloped/slightly marginalised tamils
2. "put them in the right place" for overdeveloped (than the rest of the tamils due to caste shitt)/favoured/had more power than should have.. tamils
Ravana
Yep, Every one (public, troops, India, IC) wants war to be done ASAP. Exception being LTTE and NGOs. But SLA need troops to defend captured land and SLA need time to recruit and train.
I am not sure exact reason why 59 go slow - I guessed; it was to balance man power. (Now, no one should argue; if kill all the tigers then why need troops? protect from whom?)
I don't think SLA should take any big risks (like jayasikuru.) Let's do the safe way.
ninja,
fantastic.
tamils in group #1 ----> tamil
tamils in group #2 ----> tamiz
lol!!!
1. development for tamils
2. frustration (of their TE project) for tamizs.
this is the RIGHT political solution.
MD
/the WAR started bcos of underdeveloped/slightly marginalised tamils.
but SEPERATISM started bcos of overdeveloped (than the rest of the tamils due to caste shitt)/favoured/had more power than should have.. tamils./
agree??? - 100%
/but this is a seperatism LED war. what does that mean?/
This means .... in other words 'elite tamils' easily convinced 'poor tamils' that the reason for thier suffering is 'sinhala gvnt' and the solution is 'elaam' ... and 'poor tamil' had nothing to lose except life...and we also provided support by 83 etc.
/so the political solution,
1. development for underdeveloped/slightly marginalised tamils
2. "put them in the right place" for overdeveloped (than the rest of the tamils due to caste shitt)/favoured/had more power than should have.. tamils/
Well...don't forget about the sinhala side as well.
Well educated and rich tamil side and uneducated and poor sinhala majority is also problem. Sinhala side need also be in right place (when considered ethnic ratio).
Even now sinhalese are minority in thier own commercial capitol. Trade is not in thier hand. etc etc.
After independence "elite" tamils outnumbered "elite" sinhalese; Close reason for current problem. We need; if sinhala/tamil ratio is 80/20 in SL it should be same in every sector NATURALY.
Mosh,
If there were no TN, ther is no Tamil problem is SL. TN has never being an asset to SL. So there should be no space for the minds with too much affliation to TN. That mind set has to be phased out slowly.
Now look at the signboards of Tamil Shops in SL – the top half is in big English, the bottom for Singhala and Tamil at equal levels.
For an average Sri Lankan, it should be Singhala, then Tamil and then English.
We are too accommodating … we wait till the knifes are at our throats even when we see that the knifes are being sharpened all around.
Rana/Ravana/Moshe/Ninja,
Both Rana and Ravana are right in two diff ways. I have a mix of the views.
First of all, not only we feel like but it is our duty to celebrate the great sacrifices made by SLDF at some achievement like Pooneryn. But there shud be two things assured.
1. Our celebrations do not make our tamil brothers in our side unhappy.
2. We shud know that next day SLDF has to get up and fight again.War is far from over and just begun so need to make sure the momentum is not lost. Celebrations shud be done under the constant vigilance.
If Ravana is pointing out the risk of "thin long stripe" indeed I'm with you. In my personal view Paranthan shud bring a sort of stop to this line. And attention shud move towards Oddusudan. Right now Mullathivu is in everyone's prediction so all eyes are on Mullathivu. We need to push towards Oddusudan from some other line and make sure it is taken before the pussycats build up against it.
Also it is important to fill gap between Mankulam and Kokavil [A9] and the stretch between Vavunia and Padaviya.
Best is to start to flanks moving to Oddusudan from the two stretches, just like 57th and 58th.
I think we shud use the cities Mullathivu Mankulam and Nochchi as a bait for them, but not try to enter. Equally we shud put pressure on EPS but not march there. The four places are for the pussycats to defend until we take land.
In whatever count any victory w/o the harvest of "strong" cadres [not ones like English teacher] is a half victory.
TF3/TF2 seem to be up for some of these tasks. Also never loose faith in SF, he is a shrewd game player. I dont think he misses these points. It is nice that politicos do the clown dance as warriors lay out plans in the background.
For TinCan danger myself Nirosh and many others have been warning. Ravana, it is a pity taht there is no solution from SLAF. Even if we capture all regions pussycats can fly a sea plane or a Zlin from tamilnadu. This is something we ought to solve.
Hope I balanced the two diff views of you guys.
What an anticlimax!
Mahen has given a silly excuse and bolted already!
Mathamathica
/If there were no TN, ther is no Tamil problem is SL./
Hak Hak Haaaa
If there were no TN, there is no tamiz in this world. Then there is no any tamiz problems. Ha Ha...
BTW
Never forget about TAF despite Pooneryn....
Some (SLAF) expert told how funny and stupid was the non-experts TAF downing strategy discussion. But I don't see any thing else we can do about TAF apart from talking i the blog. So let's at least do that.
two air sorties today 6.45 am and 1.30 pm
No_Mess,
Excellent work and Excellent post!
Keep up the excellent work!
ninja,
yes. sinhalas and muslims also have grievences.
ok. now for the controvercial part....
tamil (first development for tamil ppl then a new political framework for tamils) or tamiz (first a new political framework for tamil ppl then development for tamils)???
all of them are non-violent whatever the allegations are.
1. douglas devananda
2. ananda sangari
3. v muralitharan
4. pillayan
5. mano ganesan
6. kadir
7. jeyaraj
8. gg ponnambalam
9. chelvanayagam
10. amirthalingam
11. dr raja johnpulle
tamil - 1,3,4 (ppl need development FIRST, not tamil aspirations)
if #1s are developed, they will not become tools in the hands of #2s.
tamiz - 2,5,8,9,10 (do we have to NECESSARILY change the constitution and the nature of the country to live together/for development?? what bullshitt)
but what will happen if tamil aspirations are given without development???
#2 will trap #1s and SCREWW them mercilessly.
what about 6,7,11????
they are sri lankan!!!!!
no_mess,
i second thambala.
good work. tigers are routed the world over.
sujeewa, mathematica,
cheers.
From Lakbima:
Pillayan’s Sec a RAW agent claims military intelligence
Military intelligence believes that Kumarasawamy Nandagoban alias Ragu who was killed in Athurugiriya on Friday is a RAW agent.
He was the private secretary of Eastern province chief minister Sivanesathurei Chandrakanthan (Pillayan). The Chief Minister told media yesterday that Ragu was not killed by the LTTE, but he declined to say who is responsible for the killing. Military Intelligence has discovered that he had retuned to Sri Lanka four days ago from Malaysia, but he had told Pillayan that he was going to India. Intelligence authorities are still working on whom he had met with in Malasiya and for what.
The Karuna faction accused Ragu of being an LTTE supporter, but Pilleyan continued to employ him as his private secretary. Pillayan got Ragu to register the TMVP as a political party. when TMVP leader Karuna Amman was jailed in the UK. Ragu was the party chairman until his death. The Karuna group also claimed that Ragu was never a TMVP member though he was a senior LTTE cadre before Karuna Amman defected from the LTTE in 2004. After the split Ragu had decamped to Australia. However, after Karuna went to the UK and was arrested for possessing a forged passport in November 2007, Ragu had returned to Sri Lanka on the same day that Karuna had left the country, sources said.
Meanwhile, Malaysia is one of the foreign countries where the LTTE operates without much hindrance. During the last few months, the Terrorist Investigative Unit arrested four Tamil youth who were returning from Malaysia. Under intense interrogation they divulged information regarding many kilos of C-4 high explosive, and many other items that were kept in safe keeping for future use.
So much about monkey celebration about Jeyanthan coming to Col. Note that it was a white van.
What wonderful news.Teruwan saranai to all our brave troops.May God lead our forces to victory over this LTTE filth with the minimum of casualties that has dominated our lives since 1948.
Rawana
celebration is part of winning/achieving something. You make a big effort to achieve something and why not celebrate when you do? but the government is not celebrating but winning the propaganda war as well. there weren't any events to celebrate, no flag hoisting or tamasha, it's just propaganda.
it's all part of the game, it's all part of 'psy ops' if you may. It contributes to demoralising cadres and the diaspora, so why not.
second aspect, the governemnt needs the support of the people to wage war and to keep anti government elements at bay. without propaganda you don't have the masses with you. without propaganda you let the ltte supporters take a lead in pressurising the government and say its a non war. people like mangala s are doing that despite the military gains and the propaganda, so just imagine without.
it's not celebrations
hi guys,
thanks for every.for me if you want to celebrate when you know you have exactly one.otherwise it is not wise do things pretty early.any way as i said def.57 starts work already.if i had a time i will give detailed report about each and every 6 location.then you people clearly understand what i mean.right now i dont have the time.any way just try this.looks closely the map and find out how many big forests and rivers in the remaining area.what type of Geo we have on our hand.how many of our people be there for the last 10 years.
i will be update this tomorrow..
there may be few grammar and spelling mistakes guys ....sorry i have to rush off ..its late already for next round
DW, can you shed some light on latest twists in TMVP. It sure looks like a playground for every party RAW, Tigers and other para-military factions. One such issue is unearthed with the assassination of Ragu.
Read more about Ragu assasination:
http://www.lakbimanews.lk/news/laknew3.htm
http://www.nation.lk/2008/11/16/news13.htm
Amazing how TMVP is puppet controlled by India/Tigers. Note that he was the party president. Moles are sitting all over the place. I will feel comfortable if the white van was organized by MIC [Military intelligence corp], but if MIC found this fact after his assassination, whoops we're in deep danger.
Well, I don't think that Karuna is a danger to us immediately due his dead anger with VP and he knows the internals of it. But Pillayan may be a sleeper of tigers, also possible that his immaturity and non-involvement in serious matters can be utilized by tigers to post their moles around him.
SLDF should take adverse actions here, there should be two under cover operatives disguised as tigers always running after the two high profile TMVP targets, just waiting for order.
We are passing perhaps the most tentative period of war. The area of control seem to be least important in today's game order. Pooneryn may turn out to be just another battle.
So Dr Jayalath Jayawardena, the UNP parliamentarian is suing the Defence Ministry for depriving him of worshipping at Madhu.
Well the MOD should come to an Out of court settlement with the good Dr, by helping him to complete the “special place of worship” he is building behind the Jayalath Cinema in Seeduwa, ASAP. This is a place of worship where couples come by Tuk Tuk’s to worship an ancient god called Eros.
As the owner of this church he’ll have right of access night and day.
Dr and a holy man – My foot.
The problem is that after capture of entire Wanni and the killing of Prabhakaran.
Us tamils will no longer have access to arms with which we are able to have more bargaining power against government measures that might be detrimental to us.
For example the goverment might want to fill Wanni with muslim Maldivians, how can we refuse without having access to arms ?
ravana,
Thanks for sharing the info, you reminds me "ogre", Are you?
Seems you have close connections with our def authorities or you are directly involved in this. whatevr no need to answer if its sensitive info.
Again thanks for the contribution.
I also agree with you, celebrations are good but with in mind simillar or bigger jobs are ahead. I also got to know we lost "not so low" number of our brothers during the winning day alone, which is quite normal and to be expected in such an offensive. So while we celebrate equally we should remember and dedicate time and place for those heroic sons of srilanka!!
Im past two days of fighting in the northern front there has been around 40 SLA deaths and more than 100 injured.
there have also been reports that alot of the SLA corpses have had deep burns without any sort of shrapnel wounds.
We must have done very well.. A living example is pasted right below..
/*
thiru said...
Im past two days of fighting in the northern front there has been around 40 SLA deaths and more than 100 injured.
*/
[* Sri Lankan troops in fierce fighting for Kilinochchi -]
Great to hear about this CONSISTENCY.
What the Sri Lankans lacked for over three decades was a CONSISTENT application of a policy to eliminate Tamil terrorists.
Instead, while some moves are appreciative, many others only allowed the terrorists to re-group, re-arm kill many thousands more.
Can we truly allow that to happen again? NO WAY!
Not single country now opposes our UNSHAKABLE determination to wipe out Tamil terrorism.
If we lower that aim... we could DEFINITELY hear from NGOs to Toiletanadu to Igloo-countries to Yankeeland... that we cannot beat the LTTE pigs... because they are so 'strong'. My ar*e!
That is why, we as a great nation, first have to have enviable respect for ourselves and our country first... then we can expect others to respect us as Sri Lankans and the name Sri Lanka.
Our leaders need to ensure that this respect is mutual when dealing with other countries.
Or... believe the sensational, divisional and ethnic based fairytales from every Tom, Dick and Harry and lose ourselves in a confused state, making us doing 'nothing' but talking, daydreaming and hoping.
Nope... It's time to do something positive for the country… and remind the patriots not to miss this opportunity to contribute to the welfare programs of our valiant troops.
Please ... tomorrow could be too little… too late.
We owe them big time, folks.
It is funny that most of you have fallen in to this Ravana's trap. Capturing Pooneryn is extremely advantageous, tactically. (If he doesn't understand this he better visit 'Long Ranger' blog.)
57 is positioning well. Due to that an some other reasons there is no risk of 58 being attacked from behind when it reaches Paranthan (of course there would be a heavy resistance).
We all were waiting for Pooneryn to fall. When we heard the news we all were celebrating. We weren't waiting for governments nod. Because it is the greatest achievement we had so far.
To me, this Ravana is a fake insider. At least he is not getting information from our side.
Long Ranger says
"The advantages to the military establishment of the fall of POONERYN is manifold.
1.Opens up a land based MSR across the SANGUPIDDY-KERATIVU jetty linking POONERYN to the JAFFNA mainland.
2. Thus reduces the workload of the Navy and SLAF in maintaining the bridge across the sea and air.
3. The Tamil Tigers are set to lose its entire Western Coast and hence a logistical nightmare to its sea faring wing in smuggling its supplies from the TamilNadu warehouses.
3.Provides the SLN to establish itself again at NAGATHEVANTHURAI overlooking the KILALY lagoon thus an observation point against Tamil Tiger infiltrations towards the Jaffna peninsula.
4.And allows the SLN to block any refugee or fleeing Tamil Tigers cadres from entering Tamil Nadu.
6.Provides the 51 Division which is based in the WALIKAMAM area to expand across the lagoon and perform holding duties.
7.Puts the Tamil Tiger long range T59I 130mm howitzers out of the range of vital security establishments within the peninsula.
8.Provides vital intelligence to the military establishment on Tamil Tiger artillery pillboxes at K-point
9.Allows the 58 Division to concentrate on areas North of KILINOCHCHI along the POONERYN-PARANTHAN road
10.Removes the Tamil Tiger artillery and W86 120mm heavy mortar pads that were within range of the operations sphere of 55/53 Divisions
11.And provides the SLA additional fire support bases to conduct suppressive fire towards known enemy fire support locations.
"That is why, we as a great nation, first have to have enviable respect for ourselves and our country first... then we can expect others to respect us as Sri Lankans and the name Sri Lanka.
Our leaders need to ensure that this respect is mutual when dealing with other countries."
Very well said, Gringo. It is a gem.
Folks,
Do not expect any cease fire. It's not going to happen.
SF in LNP says
"The forces will start pounding at will the ltte defences in muhamalai,nagarkovil and kilali from pooneryn in a few days time when they locate the heavy arty at k point.
mbrl fire has been already launched to give a taste of the medicine and soon 130 and follow...
this will be an historic chapter in the elam war where the ltte will get a taste of the interest of being pounded from both ends in the history of the elam war.abitter prospect indeed...
there is little doubt that the cost of holding on to ep nk and muhamalai will be unbearable in terms of casualties with us talking about being boxed by the capture of pooneryn.
the ltte defences in muhamalai and nk are not designed to withstand attacks from both directions...
occupation is going to be terribly costly...
loss of pooneryn is the largest and the most devastating blow the ltte suffered in this war...
ltte's withdrawal or facing a blood bath are the two inevitable options it has... "
Hi Folks, good morning to all patriots:
This is regarding Ravana's couple posts last night:
First, he couldn't said what he wanted to say clearly.
These are the bits and pieces, I managed to sort out from his posts:
1. LTTP's 05 howitzers are more important than our 100s of 130mm guns.
2. LTTP's CA and IP brigades are still intact and ready to mount a massive attack in a place of their choice.
3. SLA has to defend so many battle fronts now and they don't know from where the big attack will come.
4. India and T'naadu wants LTTP beaten but not with noise, rather silently.
5. As at present SLA and LTTP locked in a way such no body can advance further.
6. Kili'chi is empty, no point of going there.
Now reading all this crap does not make any sense to me.
Takes the most dangerous one first.
LTTP's CA and IP brigades still intact and ready for a big come back!
IF CA and IP have not participated heavily defending their teritory yet. That is fine, SLA has to face them any way, so SLA is ready when CA and IP ready.
05 howitz are dangerous but we have faced them before, it is not new to our boys.
If Kilinochchi is empty we will take them without making noise about it.
Proceed to Paranthan and see what LTTP can do.
Monitor pussycats movements to see where they are concentrating by mass and move ourselves to counter it.
Capture A9 from Mankulam to Iranamadu then then TF3 and 56 should clear Omanthai to Mankulam.
I do not see any problems with the above.
Guys, do you see a pit fall?
I don't think the guy ravana is Ogre! Ogre is much more straight forward and his writings are clear.
Ravana seems to be a disgruntled army officer who has been overlooked by Gen.SF for promotions. or he is a LTTP stooge.
Well what you all think?
According to Lakbima 'lTTE has begun withdrawing from Kilali, Muhamali and Nagarkovil towards E'pass'. And it also says that LTTE has begun withdrawing from Mankulam.
click here.
hemantha,
This Tamilnut post talks about SLA casualties and no word about what exactly is happening. It is very likely at this point that LTTE will tactically relocate entire Muhummalai-Paranthan area to jungles.
Guys
Let’s anyone writes as he knows of facts, may it be Ravana and Sita we know several masquerading as good guys and yet batting for the terrorists. It is wrong to judge a person without real proof.
Hemantha and Ravana may be both from the military backgrounds like SF and we like to read from all of them.
Rana
Re. Ravana
Moastly agree with you. I also agree, he was not clear in what he said.
It seems he was saying taking pooneryn was wrong, no use...it makes LTTE to attack some 'rear'...hard to defend...all negative things and worrying about why not take K'chi and celebrations.
May be Hemantha is right. He came once in a while and say xx SLA KIA. He see all the negative aspects (similar to diaspora or RW-mongala.)
So you gave your interpretaions of ravana and commented and let me also add some.
/1. LTTP's 05 howitzers are more important than our 100s of 130mm guns.
-05 howitz are dangerous but we have faced them before, it is not new to our boys./ -Very true.
/2. LTTP's CA and IP brigades are still intact and ready to mount a massive attack in a place of their choice./
May be. If they do that means a large number of 'intact' 'brigades' going to be dead. (There is no way to fight without own casualties!) Thus this 'massive counter attack' will be huge gamble with more chance to loose elite cadres and less chance of changing the trend. I see such an attack as a great oppertunity for SLA to kill maximum 'elite' cadres.
/3. SLA has to defend so many battle fronts now and they don't know from where the big attack will come./
SLA has to be ready for any thing, any time. any where.
/4. India and T'naadu wants LTTP beaten but not with noise, rather silently./
True for India (not for TN.)
/5. As at present SLA and LTTP locked in a way such no body can advance further./
Not quite true.
/6. Kili'chi is empty, no point of going there./
Actualy he was saying some thing else.
Finally, SarathF knows better than him. So we have no worries.
Congratulations to our brave Sri Lankan Defence forces!!
We Sri lankans, owe it to you & your families forever for the ultimate sacrifices you made on behalf of our mother Lanka
You are in our thoughts & in our prayers every day
May triple Gem bless you guide you & protect you all the way to Victory!
SamP
Yep, they have 'repulsed'. We know how they repulsed from Mavila aru to Pooneryn. For some reason, both GSL and LTTE don't issue battle fiels details quickly.
Sam,
I read somewhere else about a similar # of casualties. I remember now. It's Gen Jagath Jayasuriya's brother, posted the inf. in LNP.
Hemantha
Are you saying LNP special force is JagathJ's brother? If not who you are refering? Any proof?
Kevin,
"Military background"
Not exactly.
Ninja,
No, it is not SF.
Ninja,
Agree with you 100%, bro.
I think ravana is either nut case, UNP supporter or LTTP stooge.
Let him come again with his negative crap, we will mince him, then and there.
Guys,
It seems MR has stood firm with his counter part in India, PM Manmohan Singh.
Good on MR, war will go on!
But some reports say LTTP is withdrawing from Muhamalei, Kilali and Mankulam too.
Why? Are they goint to defend Kili'chi with all or nothing attack.
If it is so, this is the big come back they want to show.
I like it, good harvest and LTTP will be reduced to nothing.
On the other hand, if they with draw from all fronts gradually without loosing many cadres then I don't like it.
Most probably, they all will concentrate on 59, thinking they can anihilate 59 and march towards Trinco leaving Wanni to SLA.
SLA should guard eastern front more vigilently now.
TF3 should march towards Odusudan by clearing Mankulam.
---Diaspora clowns---
I can see some of you are in 'serious' dialogs with our 'intelligent diaspora clowns'. Let me say some thing.
Any political organization need to have and retain followers. Followers supposed to believe their outfit will achieve their objective in near future. Thus the organization will give the followers "hope" and later once the followers become 'addicted' to the "hope" it is just a matter of renewal of "hope" according to changing ground situations.
You see these monkeys come here and write some 'oncoming massive counter offensive'. That's their 'hope'. They never question why 'counter offensive' never happen from Mavila Aru to Pooneryn.
We never see our (UNP/SLFP) political followers ever question their leaders when they failed to deliver what they promised. Rather they believe their next promise. Same with diaspora monkeys. They first wrote here how impossible it is to get Vakarei. Then they wrote how LTTE going to kill thousands of troops if they come to Vakarei. And you can replace Vakarei by Mavil Aru to Pooneryn.
When you read you can see one monkey is dumber than another. Cleary, mahen is dumbfcuk and dumber than peter. These monkeys may really have some friends in wanni and it is quite easy LTTE to fool these fools and get their money. So what they write here about 'offensive war' and 'killing thousands of modayas' is not just their dream/ fantasy that is what sold to them by LTTE for their money and they display here what they bought and have with them.
Now read following two versions and decide which one earns money from diaspora.
1. We tried really hard to defend our homeland. A lot of our members are dead. So we withdrawed. We need a CFA. If this goes on we will be over. Any way we try our best and please send money, ok.
2.
Before SLA advance: We never let them come into our homeland. We repulsed their offensive with xxx SLA KIA. Please send money, ok.
While SLA advance: This is our trap brother. These modayas don't know what will happen to them once they come. They are coming to their grave yard. Please send money, ok.
After SLA advanced: Brother, don't worry. We are n defensive war. Our offensive war start soon. Counter offensive come soon. We have all our elite units intact. Thousands of SLA get KIA. So please send money, ok.
(I reply to these monkyes just for fun.)
kaati .
Having the weapons is not going to help with negotiating with GSL . It will only lead to the ultimate elimination .
I think the tamils will get a fair solution for MR . But they will have to live within the confines and the laws of a united SRi Lanka .
Guys,
Two questions:
Loosing 11 officers and 130 brave hearts sound like a bad ambush to me.
Any body got details about what has happened?
I read somewher, our fallen heeros have more burning than shapnel injuries.
How true is this? any details?
Thankful for detailed reply!!
Elo elo gahapung, we are all behind you.
http://tinyurl.com/6n7sbx
Somebody should make this up country Chandrasekaran's mouth shut temporily or permanently.
Boat load of 29 went to india may be sea tigers escaped from Devils point and Pooneryn.
Omanthai entry/exit point to be shifted to Odu sudan.
How? Oddusudan is not in our control.
Can some body explain?
Sam,
I was reffering to the tamilnut story "20 SLA soldiers were killed and at least 80 wounded".
"Misled by the T.N.A. Members, Tamil Nadu is exposing to grave risk its own people in particular and the whole of India in general. My repeated requests to Tamil Nadu, not to allow the L.T.T.E. to create a "Jaffna" in Tamil Nadu, had been totally ignored. If Tamil Nadu fails to stop this trend, very soon it will have a training centre for suicide bombers. I am sure history will record this, for Tamil Nadu to regret deeply one day."
-Anandasangaree
click here.
Guys, I have been in and out of the blog than usual. I will be away next 4 days. Can see lot of activity.
Ninja, Rana
Bit confuced about the CFA discussion. But I follow what you say. I read the SLA stratergy situation bit differently. This is what I think the strategy.
1. The main objective would be to bring their heavy guns and top braze to a checkmate and hold.
2. Then the objective would shift from offencive to a holding positions (a mini undeclaired CFA).
3. Segment the undeclared area to have more porus borders and bring the civilians out. (thet is to increase the peripharal length of the interface scatering their resorces if they are to keep civilians hostage.)
4. Buy time to politically (TNA) and deplomatically (IC) convince a case for their support to get civilians out.
5. Then either go for a decisive battle and anihilate LTTE or ask them to lay down their arms.
In any way, we can not create a political vacume in the North 9especially in Wnni and Mulaithiwe districts. As they succeded with JVP by cutiing the head.
No matter what we say or do - VP and Pottu has no other way out.
But Bhanu and Soosai can be next Karuna and Pilleyan. But we only need teath less tigers.
Talk to you in four days. OVER AND OUT!
we should find a way to "drain out" the civilians from vanni.
once we reduce the civilian numbers, SLDFs can VIOLATE the LTTE at will.
there is another aspect of this excellent military plan.
sooo many "analysts" were talking about LTTE's "remarkable" unconventional capabilities.
SLDFs have TURNED an unconventional terrorist war INTO a CONVENTIONAL WAR which they are very familiar with!!!!
this is called CHANGING THE BATTLEGROUND.
what's the point in always complaining unconventional war, unconentional war???
we beat them in unconventional tactics to some extent and then turned it into a conventional war.
now LTTE has to finally fight a conventional war to survive. but SLDFs are the masters in it, not the LTTE. what excellent planning!!
i'm glad unqualified "defence analysts" don't see these SUBTLE moves.
in marketing this is what some japanese companies did in the 1960s-1980s. they changed the battleground!!!!
how true???
kaati,
"The problem is that after capture of entire Wanni and the killing of Prabhakaran us tamils will no longer have access to arms with which we are able to have more bargaining power against government measures that might be detrimental to us."
you are spot on!! this is the plan.
(as i don't talk BS and i can see you too don't talk BS. i can BS and say "no kaati, LTTE and other tamil leaders can get EVERYTHING if LTTE lays down arms" which is NOT true).
the message is CLEAR. you are foresightful to understand this. others will realise this later.
what does it say?
1. stop relying on guns/bombs to get your demands
2. stop making unreasonable demands than can ONLY be achieved through violence (IF AT ALL they can be EVER achieved!!)
3. stop stopping the globalisation process
4. look at alternatives to what tamil leaders have been telling for the past 77 years (2008-1931).
this is the EXACT reason why some "moderate" non violent tamil leaders want a political solution BEFORE wiping out the LTTE.
but they are going to fail as long as THEIR DEMANDS DON'T CHANGE.
like sun tzu said, WAR IS EXNTENTION OF POLITICS BY OTHER MEANS.
but i ASSURE you that TAMILS in SL will be VERY VERY happy of this decision by the govt in the LONG RUN.
Saman,
Have a good time, bro, come back in 04 days, safely!
Moshe,
LTTP's unconventional abilities can be controlled with tight FDL line all around but then civilans cannot come to cleared areas.
This our problem, the moment we create an opening for civilians tiger cadres will infilterate to create havoc in the south with unconventional tactics.
As long as we keep the tighter FDL, LTTP is forced to fight conventionally and harvesting is good.
There will be a moment when their cadres go beyond minimum required figure, they will have to disintegrate. Then civilians can come out.
Once this happence tigers also become civilians. Then mop up operation should intensified with white, black and all coloured vans.
East - TMVP
Kaati,
Your bargaining power is not guns, more people on your side.
When you have guns, you get less and less people to bargain. The best example is what LTTP did so far, more than a million went abroad, more than 50,000 will be dead by the end. Tamils will be the smallest minotity in SL and loose all bargaing power.
In short Vesapille is successful in destroying everything for SL tamil community.
As DW said Paranthan is the next (theoraticaly). But it seems Mankulama will fall before that.
Anonymous Bro said:
" Extracted from the article in Sunday Observer (link previously posted by DC) on the interviewing of the liberated tiger cadre-teacher:
"… As they were losing manpower in the battle fields, the LTTE ordered their cadres in all other units to undergo combat training and Kugatharshini too was sent to a 15-day refreshment military course in Wishwamadu. After training, we were taken to guard the coast line along Pooneryn. They told us lies that there was not much fighting involved as the Army could not resist the LTTE", she owned up. ..."
Well, isn't this the same myth we hear from our cyber warriors such as Peter/Thiru/Mahen?
This is what they are feeding tamils everywhere. The common misunderstanding is that tigers are doing the cheating part and diaspora and wanni tamils are fooled. This is wrong. A good majority of diaspora and the higher ranks of tigers do the cheating part. the lower ranks of tigers, few of diaspora and helpless wanni civilians are the cheated lot.
Does anyone think that Mahen/Thiru or Peter believe in any of the crap they seem to show as believing. For an example see how naked the cheating of Mahen. He predicted that they will re-capture Nachchikuda before 27th of Nov. And that is such a funny choice. If you look at map you'd realize that Nachchikuda is so deep inside SLDF liberated region. Only a sea-borne attack and amp-landing can take it back. So why would he state a double layered crap about Nachchikuda, why not talk about the re-taking of Akkarayan, Kokavil or Mallavi, which is a logical possibility (although tigers can hardly breath)".
I couldn't agree with you more, bro. If it is to their (temporary) gain, our delusional peelam friends swallow everthing hook-line-and-sinker...
They are too short-sighted to see the reality that's right in front of their eyes.
Corey,
There is some truth in your post but not the whole truth!
Look at senior pussycats (who has been there for 10 years or more) know the teritory they controlled prior to 2005. They also know gradually their retreat from Mannar to Kili or Mankulam becuase they were part of the fight.
My deduction is all hardcore pussycats like CA and IP brigade, know very well, they loosing badly. They do not buy crap dream of the leader. They may not know every thing going in all fronts, therefore, they are still fighting but not for long.
I think LTTP disintegration will come soon after loosing Paranthan, EP Kili and Mankulam.
SLA should keep momentum going and concentrate on major towns. That way they can inflic maximum damage toi the LTTP.
[quote]
Mr. Seneviratne (UNP parlimentarian) requested the government to capture Kilinochchi quickly without dragging its feet.
“The government is continuously talking about taking Kilinochchi. Enough is enough. It is high time the area is captured,” he said.
http://www.dailymirror.lk/DM_BLOG/Sections/frmNewsDetailView.aspx?ARTID=32312
[/quote]
What's wrong with these bastards? None of the UNPers showed joy/approval when the announcement was made in parliment about the liberation of Pooneryn. Few months ago when the military captured Thoppigala some UNP idiots said its nothing but a jungle. Now this ass Sennevirane is trying to belittle the efforts of our troops saying they are dragging their feet, without capturing Kilinochchi.
If the UNP MPs cant share the joy of the victories of the armed forces, if they cant appreciate the sacrifices made by the forces, they should atleast try to keep their mouth shut and not be-little the great sacrifices and the efforts of our forces.
/Mr. Seneviratne (UNP parlimentarian) requested the government to capture Kilinochchi quickly without dragging its feet.
“The government is continuously talking about taking Kilinochchi. Enough is enough. It is high time the area is captured,” he said./
Mr. Seneviratne, Please mind your business. SLA will take it when they want not when you want. Politicos making military decesions...that time is over...This is what Mon-gal has to say about Pooneryn...I am waiting for Kari-alla and Vajira.
I love this para written by Dayan Jayathilaka.
"The Lions are circling outside the marauding Tiger’s lair. We must do our best to secure the space and time for them to close in for the final kill. Anyone who comes in the way to save the trapped and wounded predator who when healed, will unleash itself against us yet again, will earn or rekindle the undying historical enmity of a whole people, nation and state, adding to the toxicity of an already volatile and violent region."
So many problems for the LTTE.
When Parantan falls, they will have to abandon EP and everything north of it before the cadres there are cut off.
When Mankulam falls, then a fast movement along the A34 creates the threat of linking up with 59th. Everything south of Oddusudan will have to be abandoned.
I suspect that once Mankulam falls it will also be easier for the special forces to operate. The LTTE probably has some form of guard system along the A9 in order to stop the special forces. Once the jungle cover beyond Mankulam is reached the special forces may be able to more easily reach all of the remaining LTTE territory.
Ninja,
That is why, I always said some UNP selfish basterds are damaging GOSL more than the LTTP and diaspora.
I heard that Ponna RW is going to India to discuss something with leaders of the centre.
However, they are committing political suicide, they will be loosing heavily in forthcoming elections.
Well dosn't matter. LTTE has Ananada Sangarie and Devananda. We have UNP traitors to match.
LTTP used to enjoy 1/3 of land area and 2/3 of coastal length during CFA.
Now they having only useful area of about 500 sq.km and coastal length about 50km.
Therefore, if we take total area of SL is 65610sq.km and total coastal length is 1340km.
Therefore, LTTP is now controlling only 0.76% of area and 3.7% of coastal line.
If 53 and 55 comes down and move towards east LTTP coatal line also will reduce to about 2%.
Therefore, peelam is already nothing much, if we secure all liberated areas water tightly.
rana,
URINE-PEE was a bit more sensible for the short time janaka perera was in it.
now it has fallen to the cesspit.
traitors are very comfortable in SHITT!!!
best thing is to have ravi,mangala, seneviratna, keri-alla, mano, rauf in one table and put questions. one will contradict the other.
rana,
no. LTTE still controls about 5% of the land area.
the coastline is longer than 50km. the jaffna lagoon area (ltte side) itself may be close to 50. plus the mulaitivu area.
anyway still it is a BIG reduction from CFA times.
i'm more concerned about the cadres at their disposal. we must harvest them all EVEN IF THEY LAY DOWN ARMS AND SURRENDER!!
we don't want to face what IPKF faced.
Moshe,
Fully agree, mate.
LTTP thrived last 30 years because of our political divisions within the majority.
Moshe,
5% of 65610 is 3280 sq.km. wich is more than 60X50km area.
They do not have that much of land area under their control, now.
If look at cyber defence map, there is a moveble scale with 8km radius. There not controlling more than 25X25km area. that is only 625sq.km and out of that about 100sq.km is now no mans area due to FDL.
rana,
no mate. you can't calculate the area like that.
govt accepted the area under LTTE control was 4,000 sq km b4 poonaryn. say it is 3,000 now. still it is close to 5%.
omanthai to muhamali is over 100km and omanthai to nayuru is over 75km.
nanda,
well said mate!!!
who's nanda?? LOL!
I am concerned that although many Sea Tiger bases were captured from Mannar to Pooneryn, few if any of the attack craft of the Sea Tigers were found. As corroborated by the recently captured female LTTE cadres, the Sea Tigers could be relocating en-masse to Tamil Nadu (TN) and go into hiding with the collaboration of TN LTTE supporters. It is entirely possible that they could launch a coordinated attack on the defence forces by Sea including the delivery of a commando force for action on land. We cannot rely on the Govt of India, or State Govt of Tamil Nadu, to protect our security forces. Therefore, we must maintain surveillance along the western coast with both sea-borne and land-based units, and a substantial naval capability there to repel such an attack. While it is tempting to shift all naval craft to operations along the East Coast with the capture of the entire West Coast, it is critical that we defend the West Coast as well. We should build more Arrow attack craft and raise additional naval forces for use along the East coast. Given the permanent and enduring future threat from Tamil Nadu we will need to increase our naval capabilities far above what we have at present.
Sri Lanka must induct its entire adult population into the active and reserve armed forces as in Switzerland, Israel and Taiwan, to name a few countries that have learned to survive in dangerous neighborhoods. I am talking about an active army, navy and airforce defense force of 500,000 and a trained battle-ready reserve force of 4,000,000 people. In peacetime, the active defence force can contribute to national development. The reserve force should be trained annually, in rotation, in 1-month periods, on military-leave on full pay from their regular employment.
Rana
According to my calculations using the circle in cyberlk.com map LTTP has around atmoast;
1. 320km coastal line (25% 1340km)
2. 1500km^2 land (2.3% of 65610km^2).
The country has over 2500 years of history, homeland for Theravada Buddham, yet there are two active forums to discuss the war.
Are we building another Tamilnet nation within Sinhalese?
anonymous (Nov 16, 1.41pm) wrote:
"We ought to start a huge propaganda campaign in order to make sure every individual living in tiger den understand the ground realities thoroughly. Leaflets, electronic media, frequency overlaps (with existing punnakku channel frequencies), walkie-talkie break-in for lowlevel cadres and whatever other means of communication. We need to start a huge information warfare covering the wanni population, most importantly the lower level cadres who is used as canon-fodder and safety barrier for the CA and IP “heroes” to run away. Even if they support tigers, they will stop it upon realizing that they are in a loosing battle.
Nevertheless, the war will continue and if possible extend to the maniacs of Mahen and co as well."
This is a very insightful post and a great suggestion that should be acted upon by the Sri Lanka Govt. Instead of the President only asking the LTTE to lay down arms and surrender (they will not do that because the tiger leaders have always cared more about their own lives than those of their people...as proved by their sending others out to be suicide bombers while their own children thrive abroad), we should bring the message home to each person in the uncleared areas that they can come to the security forces, lay down their arms, and be treated kindly without any fear. Let them be told where to go, how to approach the troops and indicate their intention to surrender by every means of communication possible. This is the time to do this...and save a few more lives of our soldiers as well and hasten the collapse of the LTTE.
Ninja & rana,
"As I see, CFA is deadly dangerous for SLA both right now or even just after taking the A9 axis. Such a case garantee LTTE some great come back given the ground situation."
The problem is not ceasefires per se- it is rather our inability to exploit ceasefires and their potential. By the same token, nonstop war does not necessarily lead to victory.
Eelam War III (1995-2001) featured 6 years of nearly continuous fighting and no ceasefires, yet in the end a CFA with very lopsided terms was forced upon us. That is because the military leaders back then did not understand how such prolonged combat can sap one's forces. The common assumption at that time was that regardless of how much the SLA was hurting, the Tigers were hurting more and it would only be a matter of time before they folded.
This perception of LTTE weakness was reinforced by Thalaivar's calls for a ceasefire around the end of Jayasikurui. The argument for rejecting the ceasefire was that the LTTE would use the opportunity to rearm and rebuild. Gen. Ratwatte dragged on the fighting, neglecting the danger signs that recruitment was at an all-time low and that the FDLs had to be defended by non-SLA forces lacking the training to fight positional war.
Yet no one considered the potential of the SLA also using such a ceasefire to allow the troops to recuperate from the debilitating effect of Jayasikurui and Ranaghosha. Ratwatte literally drove the SLA to the breaking point with Op. Watershed in August 1999.
That is when the LTTE launched its counteroffensive.
My intent is not to make erroneous comparisons between then and now (that's Peter's job). Things are very different today- Gotabhaya is no Ratwatte. I would argue though that if Gota or Fonseka did support a temporary ceasefire, they would have very good reasons for doing so, and we should not misconstrue their resolve.
The difference between the losing SLA of the past and the winning SLA of the present involved a long CFA, for better or for worse, which gave time for the SLA to learn from its mistakes (and more importantly to get better leadership after the change in govt). And it was during the CFA that Karuna broke away from the LTTE.
reallycold,
but buddhism thrived in SL symbolically and actually, after wars. isn't it???
1. there was a BIG revival after dutugemunu beat elara in war.
2. another big one after vijayabahu I beat the cholas
3. again after parakramabahu VI beat the jaffna kings.
the fact is that buddhism by itself is unable to protect the ppl.
you need something else too. may it be KUNG-FU or SHAOLIN or anyother system.
Ananda-usa
What you are saying above is absolutely correct. It is possible for terrorists to mount a seaborne surprise attack on the Western coast. I think the gosl should deploy the STF and a strong police force in the liberated areas to prevent infiltrations from the sea and from the South, where the escaped cadres to the south may come in to reckoning. Also as a desperate measure they may cause more trouble in the south and in the EP with the remaining sleeper cells. It would be advisable for gosl not to have any high profile functions and un necessary road blocks, unnecessary static security points guarding personal and property thus tying up the much needed security personal that may be needed in the cleared areas until whole of terrorist areas are liberated and God speed to our forces. This is a crucial period of this battle and all the available medical personal vehicles air transport must be made free from other civilian and political activities.
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Sri Lanka must induct its entire adult population into the active and reserve armed forces as ....army, navy and airforce defense force of 500,000 and a trained battle-ready reserve force of 4,000,000 people.
Ananda-USA,
You make a very important point. Sri Lanka will still need a large standing army for decades to come. Once the LTTE is eliminated as conventional force, there will be a need to put boots on the ground on a large scale.
The Wanni needs to be populated with military bases and townships to ensure that there are no large empty spaces that the LTTE remnants can use as a sanctuary. Perhaps we can emulate the Pakistani Army in this respect. The Pakistani Army like the Roman empire provides a land allotment to every ex-serviceman based on rank and length of service. The Wanni needs to be populated with townships made of military families.
Unfortunately, in the Sri Lanka context, conscription has never been attempted and will probably never work on a national scale for various reasons. There is definitely a need to induct Tamil Sri Lankans to the various services but the background screening infrastructure does not exist right now. If the SLA retains its current manpower complement, then the expansion in numbers could come from lower tier para-military forces such as the CDF, which would also be an economic boom to some of the rural villages.
Mushe has some more nonsense to spout how to lose the war:
"but SEPERATISM started bcos of overdeveloped (than the rest of the tamils due to caste shitt)/favoured/had more power than should have.. tamils."
Wrong. The war started in earnest after 3000 Tamils were killed in a week by govt-backed thugs. These thugs did not discriminate between high-caste, low-caste, developed or undeveloped Tamils. All were "para demala" and massacred/brutalized equally.
Tamil nationalism lacks any inherent substance to survive on its own. It takes some sort of external threat to make it appear as a means of survival for the Tamils (as kaati's posts demonstrated). As long as this external threat does not exist, Tamil nationalism will revert to its natural form of empty flatulence.
The war in Iraq shows very well that you cannot pursue development and democracy without basic security. In this sense Pillayan and Karuna are more liabilities than assets.
"1. douglas devananda
2. ananda sangari
3. v muralitharan
4. pillayan
5. mano ganesan
6. kadir
7. jeyaraj
8. gg ponnambalam
9. chelvanayagam
10. amirthalingam
11. dr raja johnpulle
tamiz - 2,5,8,9,10 (do we have to NECESSARILY change the constitution and the nature of the country to live together/for development?? what bullshitt)"
The bullshitt is Mushe's mushy-headed lumping of the anti-LTTE leader Anandasangaree respected by many Sinhalese, with Mano Ganesan the resident LTTE flunky in Colombo (or for that matter with Amirthalingam and Chelvanayagam). As usual, Mushe's head-mush clouds his ability to distinguish the friend from the enemy.
"i'm more concerned about the cadres at their disposal. we must harvest them all EVEN IF THEY LAY DOWN ARMS AND SURRENDER!!"
With this brilliant thinking, Annonymous and Ananda-usa can forget about any ideas of getting LTTE cadres to surrender.
Well said Ananda-USA,
I also touted the same idea an year or two ago when David Blacker was active here. We need to plan for a 500,000 strong military for regular duty and the rest as the reserve. Most likely, we may have to station a few mountain divisions in the up country for our own security if another insurgency starts demanding a "Malayanadu." Then of course we have to maintain major high security zones in North and East for another 20 years at least. We may have to develop a more powerful navy and lots of special forces units dedicated to destroying any LTTE offshoots before they grow too much. These SF units may have to be in constant role on recon and search/destroy missions. I am envisioning one hell of a MI unit, Navy-Army SF units operating non-stop for next 20 years. Of course, our maritime boundaries have grown exponentially with recent agreements. So our Navy has to expand accordingly to safeguard our natural resources. We may have to develop more OPVs with devastating attack capabilities for this task. Remember, it a growing world of scares resources and we need to guard ourselves. As for a SLAF, we need to totally restructure them. We need a special ops unit who will assist army and navy in counter insurgency operations who has all kinds of nifty weapons to take any insurgents from blue skies. Then, of course another unit to act along with the navy to protect our international borders against invasions. We have to plan for the war we will never have to fight. Even though it is very very unlikely, we shall prepare for a possible invasion from Tamilnadu, not India. We have to cultivate good friendships with all Indian states including Tamilnadu. What I say is just a raw thought on the same line of thinking as yours. End of the day, our leadership except for current wiki-kiri-jaya-abe-samare group of monkeys, should get together to think a plan through and implement with steadfast commitment regardless which party is in power.
One very important footnote: Future SL armed forces shall consist of patriotic Sri Lankans from all ethnicities. Right now, we have a serious need to have patriotic Tamil and Moor Sri Lankans in our forces. Nevertheless, we need some decent political frameworks for the people in each province to take care of the internal matter. At the same time we should ban all types of racial politics and political divisions along racial lines.
Ref. Ravana’s comments, I totally agree with Rana and Hemantha. Capturing Poonaryn is one of the most strategically & financially significant events in this war, By this move, firstly LTTP is deprived of access to the west coast and artillery attacks to Palali , secondly overland access for our forces and civilians to Jaffna instead of air & sea roots. If Ravana is denying these facts, and claims that his ideas are more smarter than our great Commander SF, as Rana said no doubt that he is a bloody ‘Nut Case’. About celebrations, what shall the government do instead, declare a morning period? By celebrating how can Colombo be at a threat? Does he think that all our security forces abandon their positions and are drinking, singing and dancing at Galle Face Squre? If there’s a threat to Colombo, the threat remains the same no matter you celebrate or not.
Some have argued that there’s some truth in what Ravana says, true, but remember even every lie has some part of truth within it. And by this it doesn’t mean the lie is true. Just imagine you go to a party where 400 people are enjoying and having an excellent time but just in one corner two guys are having an unpleasant heated argument. It’s true that this unpleasant incident took place but it doesn’t mean that this whole party sucks? What I am trying to say is we must concentrate on the bigger picture instead of focusing our minds on petty details.
Ananda-usa,
I agree with what you say about the SLN, disagree about the SLA.
There are numerous arguments against maintaining a large standing military in peacetime. Aside from the vast social and economic costs, there is the challenge of keeping such a large force in proper fighting condition. The tendency is for large armies in peacetime to fall into obsolescence, yet they are still dangerous enough to threaten civilian rule.
This is why the large standing forces of military regimes are sufficient to suppress civilian dissent but usually inadequate to defend against a hostile outside power.
In peacetime the challenge is to favor quality over quantity. You need to maintain a small force because all the resources are taken up training and properly arming that force. It is often difficult for an armed force to improve during war due to sanctions from outside "neutral" powers, but in peacetime the armed force gets better access to the expertise of foreign militaries.
If peace comes to SL, the govt. should take the opportunity to improve the capabilities of the SLN and SLAF while carefully and slowly demobilizing the SLA, making sure the soldiers are taken care of, get alternative employment, pensions etc.
Sorry, spelling mistake '.... air and sea ROUTES...
annonymous,
"DW, can you shed some light on latest twists in TMVP. It sure looks like a playground for every party RAW, Tigers and other para-military factions. One such issue is unearthed with the assassination of Ragu."
This is a result of how we constructed the TMVP. MI deliberately shaped the organization to have internal fractures and little cohesion (this is what DW told me a few months ago and confirmed by other sources). The argument is that these armed Tamil groups cannot be trusted and should be played off each other.
This will work in the short-term but not in the long-term especially if the LTTE is destroyed. With Thalaivar out of the picture it would not be surprising for Douglas or Karuna to take his place.
That is why I favor reaching out to Tamils like Anandasangaree who don't rely on the gun and therefore can form long-term relationships based on common understanding, not "divide-and-rule."
Ninja,
your calculations involve almost exact length and area, but I was talking about useful area and coastal length to LTTP.
Wijayapala,
You said:
/The problem is not ceasefires per se- it is rather our inability to exploit ceasefires and their potential. By the same token, nonstop war does not necessarily lead to victory./
I do not agree with the above as long as VP and Pottu leading LTTP at the front. What we want is destroy VP and Pottu. Take the LTTP leadership away so tamil people will have some freefom to speak and do what they want.
CFA will not give that freedom to common talmils as long as VP is the leader. we don't mind rehabilitating their military commanders because they do what VP ask them to do.
We will consider CFA and devolution of power when VP and Pottu is dead.
That is my position.
Wijayapala,
On the same issue, LTTP success here and there time to time is due to several factors including CFA.
1. Use CFA to develop their network in south and gather intelligance.
2. Use CFA to procure arms and solidify defences, bunkers, trenchs and earth bunds.
3. They don't follow norms or rules. They use civilians (non uniform cadres) to blow up SL assets and people. Any combatant using civilian cloths kill people is more dangerous than tiger with uniforms.
4. Follow unconventional attackes ruthlessly.
5. RAW trained them, provided with arms, explosives and money for more than 20 years.
6. T'naadu covertly supplying them money, shelter, arms, expolosives and logistics todate.
7. Tamil diaspora gave them minimum $300 millions a year for more than 20 years.
That is why they were successful time to time.
We can win this war by killing leadership only, any body who is thinking on arms struggle has to be eliminated.
this is the best time to do it.
wijeypala
Even as the CFA was implemented, there was a necessity to restructure and retrain the SLA for a 'final confrontatin' that was inevitable.
It was by the US, whch had already decided on active participation.
You already know the rest.
There are no 'Tamils' in Sri Lanka but Tamil Speaking Sri Lankans. It’s time we used that term TASSL instead of ‘Tamil’… in case we need to identify Tamil-speaking Sri Lankans. Others will follow suit if we do these necessary changes.
If one reads the statements issued by senior diplomats and officials... they always REMEMBER to refer a 'solution acceptable to all Sri Lankans'.
I am also glad to notice even hon. president also refers to the people in Vanni as 'citizens', 'civilians', 'countrymen' etc. The recent statement issued by Indian PM made sure that there was not a single appearance of the word 'Tamil' in it.
Why some of our folks don't see that?
It's pretty easier to find solutions to our issues if we go by our primary, automatic, irrevocable identity of Sri Lankan.... all other identities are secondary, invented ones of which and there are many.
Leave the narrow-minded ethnic divisions to Tamil terrorists and their coolies living in a shrinking match box called Elaam.
Moshe
By allowing Jayalath and the TNA nattamis to run around yakking, we show the world we are not against dissent.
We aren't, and shouldn't either.
That is exactly wht we are fighting to eradicate.
SLAF has delivered few MK 84 bombs from Katunayake to Pallai. According to reliable sources SLAF has dropped the bombs from the air due to difficulties of landing the planes at LTTE Camp.
59 Division captured Kumulamunai village of Mullaithivu.
TS,
not quite mate.
dissent should not be allowed at the expense of LAWS. what they do is illegal as per 157A of the constitution and PTA provides more provisions.
the majority of the opposition knows HOW to dissent only a few lowlifes like these mess it up.
so VEZAPILLAI is shitting from the mouth of VEZAPALLA!!
not worth responding to this SLUT-GUARD. same level as mahen, peter.
b#1,
"59 Division captured Kumulamunai village of Mullaithivu."
this happened last week, i guess!!!!
re: Mk-84s...
SLAF has carried out heavy bombing in this area recently.
Mk-84 and SIMILAR ones have been SLAF's standard gravity bombs.
gringo,
good move.
but there are 2 groups.
1. TSSLs (SL first T second)
2. tamiz (T first others second)
miltary solution:
save #1 kill armed #2
political solution:
address issues of #1, IGNORE OFFICIALLY the issues of #2.
"SLAF has delivered few MK 84 bombs from Katunayake to Pallai. According to reliable sources SLAF has dropped the bombs from the air due to difficulties of landing the planes at LTTE Camp."
B#1 wht does this mean??
LTTE BALAKOTU SUNU WISUNU KARANA APE SAHOODARAINTA YODA BALA YODA WEERYA LABEWA...!!!
Moshe
only part of Kumulamunai was captured last week, the entire village including the beach front was captured this morning.
Mankulam junction has also been taken over this morning by TF 3
Ravana said...
i am seeing this blog for a so long,sorry guys all of you believe this war is like mulleriya or Ellary/dutugamnunu war,everyone gathered to one point and one fight who ever the wins will be the winner.this is not such a war.
I'm confused about this move from the government.we do not want to celebrate.so far up to now we need 15000 to 20000 men to hold what we got.
Did anyone mention this war is like Elara - Dutugamunu war...?
"I am confused about the this move from from Government...?
are you suggesting we should have attacked Kili first...?
We don't want to celebrate...?
Who's "we"...? you ?, your family ?, your friends ?, NGO's ?, LTTE sympathisers?, ???
"so far up to now we need 15000 to 20000 men to hold what we got."
SLDF will take care of that.
Ravana...
Ravana sounds more Mongel Samaraweera + UNP half breed.
Thoutfulguy, you said!
/"SLAF has delivered few MK 84 bombs from Katunayake to Pallai. According to reliable sources SLAF has dropped the bombs from the air due to difficulties of landing the planes at LTTE Camp."
B#1 wht does this mean??/
you are not so thoughtful, mate!
Guys,
This is not ravana at all, that utterances came from a monkey related to hanuman!
Let him come again to this blog, We will skin him alive!
Wijayapala,
Where are you, I am waiting for an answer!!!!!!
rana....so can u plz explain to me what B#1 said??
I m very much perplexed by this sentence "According to reliable sources SLAF has dropped the bombs from the air due to difficulties of landing the planes at LTTE Camp."
Mankulama Falls......
Wijeyapala, Sam Perera,
I respectfully disagree that a large active military would be either destabilizing or too costly. The stability depends on how you structure it, and the cost can be offset by utilizing that force in peace time as an economic resource, and endowing the defense establishment with military R&D and training capabilities to generate income to support its own cost.
Ultimately, its a value judgment: the actual cost Sri Lanka has incurred to date by being defenceless with a small largely ceremonial army, far exceeds any cost we would have borne in maintaining an adequate force to defend our country. I set these ideas out in a series of papers I published 15-years ago at the VoiceofLanka.net website (now temporarily off the web as I shift ISPs) that I maintained. I am ecstatic that many others are coming to the similar conclusions. Let me explain further.
What I am proposing, in effect, is not merely a standalone professional defence force, but one that is intimately integrated into a peoples defence force consisting of the SLDA and a National Guard reserve force.
Being smaller than the civilian National Guard, that is also militarily capable,it is very unlikely that the SLDA can destabilize the civilian government, or engineer a coup-de-etat. The SLDA, though large, would be a significantly smaller than the National Guard.
In Table I (below)I give a ranked list of countries by size of the regular defence force (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_number_of_active_troops ). In this table, from left to right, the columns give the number (in thousands) of the regular force, the reserve force, the paramilitary force, and lastly the total force per thousand of people in the adult population. Sri Lanka ranks 33rd in Table 1, but must have moved up to 24th with the most recent increase in force.
Table 1.
RANKING BY SIZE OF REG. ARMED FORCE
# Nation,Reg.,Res.,Para,#/1000 pop
1 China:2355,800,3969,7324, 1.71
2 US:1436,1458,53,3937, 4.76
3 India:1325,1155,1293,3773, 1.20
4 Russia:1237,2400,359,3996, 7.24
5 N.Korea:106,4700,189,5,995, 49.0
6 S.Korea:687,4500,22,5209, 14.20
7 Pakistan:619,528,302,1449, 3.72
8 Iran:545,350,1139012,285, 11.74
9 Turkey:514,380,148,1043, 7.03
10 Vietnam:484,4000,5080,9564, 5.79
11 Egypt:450,254 405,1109 5.81
12 Myanmar:428,0,72,500, 7.42
13 Indonesia:316,400,207,923, 4
14 Thailand:306,200,113,625, 4.80
15 Syria:296,132,108,536,15.89
16 Taiwan:290,1653,22,1965, 12.70
17 Brazil:287,1115,285,1,687, 1.55
18 Germany:284,358,40,683, 3.45
19 Colombia:280,0,140,420, 4.66
20 France:259,419,101,780, 4.27
21 Iraq:254,0,242,212,531, 5.95
22 Japan:238,7,899,12,308, 1.88
23 Italy:230,65,238,534, 3.42
24 Eritrea:202,250,0,452, 45.90
25 S.Arabia:199,20,15,234, 6.80
26 UK: 195,233,1,429,3.09
27 Mexico:192,300,25,517, 1.82
28 Spain:177,328,72,579, 3.49
29 Greece:177,291,4,472, 16.60
30 Israel:177,408,8,584, 23.90
31 Morocco:196,150,75,421, 6.81
32 Ethiopia:182,0,0,182, 2.44
33 Sri Lanka:157,5,88,252, 7.59
34 Bangladesh:150,0,64,214, 0.87
35 Ukraine:148,1000,112,1303, 4.12
36 Algeria:127,150,60,2337, 3.92
37 Cambodia:124,0,67,191, 9.19
38 Poland: 124,234,21,418, 4.23
39 Switzerland:120,80,0,200, 15.81
In Table 2, I list the coutries by the size of total defence force in which Sri Lanka ranks 11th. The ranking in Table 2 is clearly related to the security threat as perceived by that country. That is, the higher in rank in Table 2, the higher is the willingness of the country to support the financial and human cost of supporting a larger military.
Table 2.
RANKING BY TOTAL FORCE PER 1000 POPULATION
# Nation,Reg.,Res.,Para,#/1000 pop
1 N.Korea:106,4700,189,5,995, 49.0
2 Eritrea:202,250,0,452, 45.90
3 Israel:177,408,8,584, 23.90
4 Greece:177,291,4,472, 16.60
5 Syria:296,132,108,536,15.89
6 Switzerland:120,80,0,200, 15.81
7 S.Korea:687,4500,22,5209, 14.20
8 Taiwan:290,1653,22,1965, 12.70
9 Iran:545,350,1139012,285, 11.74
10 Cambodia:124,0,67,191, 9.19
11 Sri Lanka:157,5,88,252, 7.59
12 Myanmar:428,0,72,500, 7.42
13 Russia:1237,2400,359,3996, 7.24
14 Turkey:514,380,148,1043, 7.03
15 Morocco:196,150,75,421, 6.81
16 S.Arabia:199,20,15,234, 6.80
17 Iraq:254,0,242,212,531, 5.95
18 Egypt:450,254 405,1109 5.81
19 Vietnam:484,4000,5080,9564, 5.79
20 Thailand:306,200,113,625, 4.80
21 US:1436,1458,53,3937, 4.76
22 Colombia:280,0,140,420, 4.66
23 France:259,419,101,780, 4.27
24 Poland: 124,234,21,418, 4.23
25 Ukraine:148,1000,112,1303, 4.12
26 Indonesia:316,400,207,923, 4
27 Algeria:127,150,60,2337, 3.92
28 Pakistan:619,528,302,1449, 3.72
29 Spain:177,328,72,579, 3.49
30 Germany:284,358,40,683, 3.45
31 Italy:230,65,238,534, 3.42
32 UK: 195,233,1,429,3.09
33 Ethiopia:182,0,0,182, 2.44
34 Japan:238,7,899,12,308, 1.88
35 Mexico:192,300,25,517, 1.82
36 China:2355,800,3969,7324, 1.71
37 Brazil:287,1115,285,1,687, 1.55
38 India:1325,1155,1293,3773, 1.20
39 Bangladesh:150,0,64,214, 0.87
The important thing here is to recognize that the top of the list is populated by small countries threatened by larger enemies or by countries with more advanced military technology. For example, North Korea heads the list fearing invasion by the US and/or by South Korea. Israel is surrounded by numerically superior Arab countries and deploys 23.9 of every 1000 citizens in its defence, while Syria feels threatned by the technologically superior Israel and the US and allocates nearly 15.89 per 1000. Greece, with its population of 5 million, fears the 60 million strong Turkey, and its other historic enemies in the Balkans and deploys 16.6 per 1000. The most interesting case is Switzerland, which has not been invaded in over a century, and has no discernable enemies, yet it marshals 15.81 per 1000 citizens. Perhaps the most interesting example is Iran, with a population exceeding 70 million, is able to mobilize 11.74 out of every 1000 citizens, for a stupendous total of 12.285 million. This reflects the bitter experience of the Iranians in the Iraq-Iran war, and the perceived threats from Israel and the US. In summary, countries organize their military structures and size their forces to meet the perceived threat. The burden is especially onerous on small countries facing numerically larger enemies. The way in which they meet this challenge, is by supplementing a relatively large standing army with a National Guard (reserve or paramilitary) integrated into a single peoples defence force that incorporates practically every adult citizen capable of bearing arms or playing a supporting role. Such countries are able to not only deter numerically superior external agressors, but also enemies that work from within.
For example, Switzerland fended-off Hitler's threat to invade at the outset of WW-II because it was the first country to mobilize in Europe, and had its 1-million man army at its post in 1 week. Hitler blinked and went around Switzerland to invade France. The Swiss managed very early in their history to weld their 3 ethnic groups(German, French and Italian) into a nation with a single national Swiss identity. Most adult Swiss are members of the national defence force, are trusted to keep their primary weapons at home, are continuously trained, and know where to report for duty, and what role they have to play.
The Israeli citizen army knows how to defend itself, for like us Sinhalese they have no other homeland to call their own: they either fight or they die, their backs are against the sea. They are continually trained, and are highly patriotic and motivated. They maintain a defense research establishment second to none and largely develop their own weapons, and pay for it through sales of weapons to other countries. In this we must emulate them to the hilt.
All Taiwanese students and co-workers I have known have served in the Taiwanese army. Threatened with invasion by China, the Taiwanese require compulsory military service, and with a large regular army and reserve forces, it has fended off China...so far, very successfully.
The threat Sri Lanka faces from Tamil Nadu is a permanent one that will not diminish in time. With its 60 million and growing population, Tamil Nadu's influence in India will always trump ours, and even India's own self interest. Recall that we couldn't eliminate the LTTE partly because our people were divided between two major parties, that relied on minority party votes to survive. So it is in India: they cannot act solely in India's national interest because to survive in power they must placate Tamil Nadu. However, Sri Lanka need not remain a defenceless pawn in this game; through military strength we can make the option of intervening in Sri Lanka, untenable, nonviable, impossible.
We have to study, analyze and emulate the examples of these small countries that have learned to survive in dangerous neighborhoods. With proper leadership that brings out the best in our people, we can leverage the social progress (e.g. > 90% literacy) we have achieved in Sri Lanka since independence, in spite of a 35 year war, and achieve military strength suffiecient to deter the most powerful of enemies. Such a military organization can serve other national interests. First, it forms an means of inculcating a high level of patriotism in our people. Let military service become a preferred credential, a "Red Badge of Courage", for gainful employment and personal honor in Sri Lanka. Let us induct soldiers into the armed forces on the "Balane" heights where the Portuguese learnt a terrible price for invading Lanka. Let the Navy begin a Naval Engineering School that will design and construct our own warships, and train civilians for service in the Merchant Marine for a fee. Let us market our patrol boats and warships to other countries in need, and use student traing fees and income from sales to offset defence costs. Let us design and develop aircraft and electronic defense and countermeasure systems for our use and sales abroad. Let us develop flying schools and use those facilities to train (for a fee) civilian pilots. Let us develop the worlds finest trans-shipment ports for ships carrying commercial goods between countries and oceans. Let Sri Lanka be "the place" for building, refitting and repairing ships. Let us use the Army Corps of Engineers as a central asset that undertakes and manages civil engineering projects in the country, such as building high-speed transportation systems, shipping ports and airports, power generation dams, reservoirs, irrigation and flood control canals, and in collaboration with the Navy, offshore wave energy generation plants to power our country. Let us exploit to the fullest our strategic location in the Indian Ocean to earn the funds necessary to support our defense forces, uplift our people, and enable those undertaking difficult jobs overseas to return and live with dignity in their own country.
I do not see the proposed defense establishment in peacetime as a static bureaucracy living off the fat of the people...instead they should become a key resource that contributes to the development of the nation. It is not possible to address all details in this short message, but this has occupied my mind for decades!
May the Triple Gem endow us with the wisdom and the will to help our country survive.
TStorm,
During WW2 any person not wearing an uniform and working for a waring party is considered to be a spy and he/she not entitled for POW status. he/she can be shot to death without any enquery.
Now, we are at war, any body who support, work, conniving, cllaborating or mislerading public to support banned terror group can be shot without trial.
SL is too good for these basterds. That is why LTTP has done so much damage. GOSL should shoot all traitors at sight becuse they are either spyies or VP lickers.
sri lankikaya & b#1,
thanks mates. got it.
ananda-usa,
good analysis. i love numbers.
but SL is ranked #11. we should maintain it than go further up on the scale. only terrorists want to dismantle the army and there are terrorists here with fancy names.
what you said about israel is 100% true. i have lived there and know fisrt hand how it feels to live WITHIN katyusha, etc. range of enemies ON ALL SIDES!!!
IMO, we should have SLA garrisons like palali in mannar, kili, mula and vavuniya. these can spearhead support for development work (including protection).
training the civilian population is a good thing. there are obstacles but should overcome them. it can help many other aspects of the society as well (fitness, friedndship building).
agree about TN.
Gringo said...
There are no 'Tamils' in Sri Lanka but Tamil Speaking Sri Lankans. It’s time we used that term TASSL instead of ‘Tamil’… in case we need to identify Tamil-speaking Sri Lankans. Others will follow suit if we do these necessary changes.
well said mate....
Mankulam also captured.
Run pigs, run...
Thoughtfulguy,
What b#1 said is SLAF bombed LTTP camp, more or less, mate.
What is ananda usa guy is doing, copying some useless stuff to the blog, taking out space unnecessarily.
thanks rana..... it was all a bit confusing... (speacially with these imposters,saying all kinds of crap things...)
well I read that a Mk84 can crash thru 15 feet of concrete :-O or kill in a radius of 366m ...(dats a 600m diameter)....
dats one hell of a big bomb..... one of these on a LTTe training or a gathering can effectively kill hundreds or even a 1000+ ......
Thoughtfulguy,
if you go back to that post, you will understand that the post said literarily, he dropped the bombs becuase landing was difficult.
Ha ha hi hi ho ho
It is humer at its best.
## Mankulama Falls
## Kumulamuna Fully Captured
## palamuna Captured
## 2800 deserted troops returned. (Highest number of deseters returned in a single day in history.)
Reports are coming that SLA has sufferred heavy casulaties (over 150) on the National Fronts and have withdrawn behind the original FDLs leaving behind burned out corpses. Tiger commandos were in operation and have taken control of the SLA FDL, forcing the SLA to relocate the FDL 500m inland. Once again, chena boys attempts to advance on the National Fronts have been effectively crushed.
Also rumours are that an Mi-24 has been put out of action due to bullet holes.
guys,
This tamils, sri lankan tamil speaking F**ks, or tamil speaking sri lankans or tamil speaking any other f**ks. We don't care.
You can be any ethnicity or speak any damn langauge you want but if you want to live in SL obey our law and order, No more No Less.
No body will allow to f**k with the norms of the country.
Am I clear!
Am I clear!!
Am I crear!!!
rana,
I don't think any of the stuff I wrote is useless. The tables I presented were not "just copied;" it is an attempt to identify the various small countries facing security threats similar to Sri Lanka, and show what they are doing to face those threats. I also explained how such a defense establishment can be supported.
What IS useless is engaging in verbal wars insulting various people ad infinitum; it is wasted effort that rebounds on us as a people.
Instead, what we should rationally discuss current war strategy and new developments, figure out how we can overcome the threats our country will face in the future, and inform each other what more we can do to counter the false propaganda disseminated by the LTTE. With regard to the last topic, all of us can start contributing reasoned logical rebuttals to LTTE propagandists flooding those Indian news websites. This will help the Govt. of Sri Lanka. It may be impossible to convince people in Tamil Nadu, but is essential that we try to persuade the non-Tamils of India to support the Govt of Sri Lanka at this time.
Srilankan-
Yes, What a wonderful news as you said.
I'm sure lot more good news will follow soon.
ananda-usa,
I agree with the point you are making. We should try to expand our military R&D and start production for both local and export markets (eventually).
This has to be a properly planned out campaign at the government level.
If moshe or others can give an idea (or point to some sources) of how the Israel went about building their military industrial complex, I think some of us reading here would find it very educational. And some advice may be passed on to the people-in-charge as well.
The current favorable attitude in the country toward the military may be atleast usefull to start some mlitary research facilities at the university level.
Ogre commented on these aspects some time ago. Hope other knowledgeable people will update us.
Wijayapala
/but SEPERATISM started bcos of .../
/Wrong. The war started in earnest after.../
See!!
/The problem is not ceasefires per se- it is rather our inability to exploit ceasefires and their potential./
LTTE can exploit ceasefire but a government can't or very difficult.
/By the same token, nonstop war does not necessarily lead to victory./
True. But if you stop the war any way no (miitary) victory.
/The common assumption at that time was that regardless of how much the SLA was hurting, the Tigers were hurting more and it would only be a matter of time before they folded./
Yep. Ratwatte took a big risk and did a huge gamble. Also, even now decesion making depends on intel. SLA should choose safest strategy.
/This perception of LTTE weakness was reinforced by Thalaivar's calls for a ceasefire around the end of Jayasikurui. The argument for rejecting the ceasefire was that the LTTE would use the opportunity to rearm and rebuild./
During a CFA LTTE any how recruit, rearm and rebuild. LTTE may ask for CFA when they are weak. But, true, they don't have to be weak to demand a CFA.
/The difference between the losing SLA of the past and the winning SLA of the present involved a long CFA, for better or for worse, which gave time for the SLA to learn from its mistakes (and more importantly to get better leadership after the change in govt). And it was during the CFA that Karuna broke away from the LTTE./
Breakinng karuna was not a part of CFA. It was some some handy work of MI. Getting better leadership was also not part of CFA. It was our luck.
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Both GSL and LTTE had their own reasons for CFA. For GSL - economy, SLA defeats, KAB etc and for LTTE - LRRP units (Shankar), 9/11 - global trend. Even now IF GSL is having big finance issues its not possible to do a war. (I mean no country can fight a war with no economy.) What I said was military wise a CFA will be the best thing for LTTE right now and hence GSL need to avoid it.
When LTTE begged for CFA they send signals for relevent parties (Norway/ NGO etc) to prepare peace stuff while poddu's men preparing for the big one (like KAB.) When you stop some thing you should stop it at the best time for you. That's what LTTE did earlier and our 100% vigilance 24/7 is needed to avoid such repetition.
Why I siad NO CFA NOW was due to some people (eg. rapa) said lets go for CFA after taking K'chi, due to economics reasons. Well, if we don't have money to eat we can't fight a war. Also, such a CFA is very dangerous for SLA, specialy if we have to defend alone A9. However, as I see NO CFA is going to happan.
phaedrus,
SL should not outright copy israel in r&d due to a few structural "oddities" in israel.
75% of the israeli's government's r&d allocation goes to defence. this is a HUGE sacrifice for other industries.
the biggest SUSTAINED single contributor to the economy has been defence (25%).
SL cannot achieve these in the short term. therefore a more "needs" driven r&d is needed.
israeli r&d started with MASSIVE US funding mainly in 1960s. they were actually doing jobs for the US. later they started selling products and this triggered an exponential growth in r&d. in israel, even civil industries are LED by the defence industry!!!!
there were bad effects of total US dependance at some point. the next model of the kfir was the lavi. but this plane had to be stopped developing due to US pressure. kfir was made from the mirage (a french jet) and it has alot of potential for further development.
what you said makes perfect sence in the NEW approach israel is taking to r&d.
now israel is concentrating on terrorist warfare. IEDs, arti/motar defence, RPG defence, new intelligence gathering, smaller UAVs, remote controlled devices are the main concerns now. SL can join with israel as the first step.
some DEADLY israeli weapons can be TESTED in vanni LIVE on tigers. this is an opportunity that will be MOST VALUED.
SL need detailed information on LTTE weapons, IEDs, home made explosives/motars, etc. that are also very useful.
for SL to have a successful defence r&d, patriotic feelings in the society got to be pumped up. defence r&d is very sensitive. if a researcher sells the secrets for money, r&d is couterproductive.
in israel, only a few istances of leaking info occured. anti-national media are not at all tolerated in israel. SL has a long way to go in establishing this vital himan infrastructure for defence r&d.
after all it's all in the heads of the reaserchers.
universities play a MAJOR role in r&d. but there is discrimination against arabs in these places for OBVIOUS reasons. a very complex situ will arise if SL tries to do it.
india and israel are friendly. but how will india see israel collaborating with SL on defence matters?
SL needs a "sponsor"/"helper" to get on its own feet in this highly competitive field.
the success of israeli r&d is the "closeness" of battlefield and the lab. soldiers are called upon to help in r&d and researchers actually go to war!! there are many competing companies that results in producing good quality stuff.
huge tax benefits also help the industry.
FREE PEOPLE FROM LTTE CONTROL, TULF LEADER TELLS INDIAN GOVT., TN
link here...
LANKAN TAMIL LEADER BLASTS TAMIL NADU OVER RESOLUTION
Check here....
So now the chena boys are begging for a ceasefire eh? I knew this day would come. Tigers never negotiate from a position of weakness, we are at our strongest now, full recapture of East is expected to happen very shortly, what it took you nitwits to do in a year, we will do in a matter of days.
Mahen,
You want an extention to your 27th November 2008 deadline to recapture Nachchikuda?
SL has a small r&d team. from what i know they are mostly into "how to use", "when to use", "calculation support" and similar stuff. policy matters are also in it.
GR started a "contribute your knowledge" thing. candidates were shortlisted and even informed. but it died down no sooner than it started.
qualified (not necessarily phd/MSc) patriots should be taken onboard. they need no be physically be present in SL.
the r&d only replaces those who leave. they are not likely to do anything capable of changing the outcome of battles.
if anyone in MOD is reading this PLEASE plead GR to resurrect the new initiative in addition to the r&d unit that is not new.
only the likes of VESAPALLAI suck-kill-aiya want ceasefires.
SL will not go for a ceasefire.
in the worst case if large scale operations stop, DPU/LRRP killings, abductions will continue. killing of tigers will not end. so essentially there will not be a ceasefire.
there are many ways to skin a cat.
Yeah yeah, keep making jokes modayas. You don't know what is coming your way.
the only way to even temporarily distract the SLA now is to offer them free malathi sex.
LTTE can even do that to save the sorry arse of vezapillai
Our girls are virgins and will not be distracted by sex, they have been trained to avoid sex and not to lust after men. The Malathi brigade is the most disciplined of all brigades.
Mahen said:
"Our girls are virgins and will not be distracted by sex, they have been trained to avoid sex and not to lust after men. The Malathi brigade is the most disciplined of all brigades."
They are too ugly to be a good lay. Its more that the men avoid sex with them, rather than the other way around.
Mankulam Junction Captured :)
ananda –usa said,
(Let military service become a preferred credential, a "Red Badge of Courage", for gainful employment and personal honor in Sri Lanka. Let us induct soldiers into the armed forces on the "Balane" heights where the Portuguese learnt a terrible price for invading Lanka. Let the Navy begin a Naval Engineering School that will design and construct our own warships, and train civilians for service in the Merchant Marine for a fee. Let us market our patrol boats and warships to other countries in need, and use student traing fees and income from sales to offset defence costs. Let us design and develop aircraft and electronic defense and countermeasure systems for our use and sales abroad. Let us develop flying schools and use those facilities to train (for a fee) civilian pilots. Let us develop the worlds finest trans-shipment ports for ships carrying commercial goods between countries and oceans. Let Sri Lanka be "the place" for building, refitting and repairing ships. Let us use the Army Corps of Engineers as a central asset that undertakes and manages civil engineering projects in the country, such as building high-speed transportation systems, shipping ports and airports, power generation dams, reservoirs, irrigation and flood control canals, and in collaboration with the Navy, offshore wave energy generation plants to power our country. Let us exploit to the fullest our strategic location in the Indian Ocean to earn the funds necessary to support our defense forces, uplift our people, and enable those undertaking difficult jobs overseas to return and live with dignity in their own country.
I do not see the proposed defense establishment in peacetime as a static bureaucracy living off the fat of the people...instead they should become a key resource that contributes to the development of the nation. It is not possible to address all details in this short message, but this has occupied my mind for decades!)
Excellent write up ananda-usa ! We need this type of positive thinking to develop the country. Keep it up.
The words "domino" and "effect" comes to mind now.
But let's not get too cocky.
"Our girls are virgins and will not be distracted by sex, they have been trained to avoid sex and not to lust after men. The Malathi brigade is the most disciplined of all brigades."
Have you seen what your girls look like?!?!? They look like oily black fuck ugly monkeys, just like Mahen's mummy (actually even your men look like that). If you have seen Planet of the Apes, just look at the similarity between the apes and your women. If your women are virgins its because nobody would want to put their dick in that shit even if they were paid.
moshe,
Thanks for the reply.
From what you said I guess the best starting point for the government is through encouraging university research and the private sector in weapon production.
While GRs intentions were good, I guess it is much more difficult to suddenly build the kind of structure available in Israel or USA. It needs to be started small and allowed to grow with continuous political support.
However I guess it is possible to encourage establishing of businesses for low tech weapons that the army uses in large quantities. The government can allow tax relief or even subsidize the initial investments.
I also think the government needs to give more publicity through the local media for building weapons production facilities. GRs initial request for people with skills was much too general to hold attention for long. He needs to set some specific tasks/goals that others can aim towards.
He is already doing an incredible job with the war. But for this, it might have been better for him to allocate the job to some other good people, instead of trying to divide his attention.
Hey guys, there was a new photo thread on SLDF opened recently on MilitaryPhotos forum (Which is a rather huge and active forum) and I was wondering whether there was anyone who would be interested in countering pro-ltte comments being posted on that thread diplomatically.
The link is
http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?t=146160
Thanks
"I guess that is why the old singhala kings of Ceylon married women from Malabar."
I'm talking about the monkeys that live in LTTE areas and LTTE female cadres, whose dead bodies/captives we see so often. Don't even try to imagine that a sakkiliya like you is malabar royalty.
"I have never seen a good looking veddha girl in my life."
You never will you stupid monkey because you don't live in this country! Yes, thats right we have a country and you don't... Sakilliyas will never get a country anywhere.
have we got K-point yet?
Oh Rana thanks mate.. :)
Thoughtful guy sorry machan... if I confused you :(
http://www.defence.lk/english.asp
Troops overrun Mankulama: LTTE flee amidst heavy casualties- Mullaittivu
Troops of the task Force-3 flanked west of the A-9 main road at Vannivilankulama have entered the Mankulama area in Mulaittivu, following hours of heavy fighting with LTTE today (Nov 17) at around 2p.m.
Earlier, forward domination elements of the TF-3 on Sunday(16) surrounded the area engaging LTTE positions with indirect fire, Wanni military sources said. Troops also had cut-off a stretch of the Mankulama- Oddusudan main road yesterday, the sources further said.
More information will follow.
Mr Shay,
There is no time for beauty treatments and make up when our girls are bravely fighting off monkeys like you in the thick jungles. Just bring them out of the jungles, give them a few days to recover and you can see how gorgeous they are.
"give them a few days to recover and you can see how gorgeous they are."
Maybe if you're blind and have a fetish for bestiality...
You tell'em.. like these modays know how pretty those pussy are...
AM I RIGHT MAHEN?
Mahen,
You did not answer me..
Does your deadline of 27th Nov 2008 to recapture Nachchikuda still stand!!!?
Guys,
Just ignore the LTTE crap here.
where is Moratu Saman when we need him most..
Heavy damages to LTTE at Northern FDLs- Jaffna
LTTE terrorists have sustained heavy damages as fighting brokeout between troops and LTTE at the Northern lines of control at Pallai, Muhamalai and Nagarkovil since dawn on Saturday (Nov 15).
The battles at the Northern FDLs continued as LTTE elements were pushed further south with the intense artillery assaults launched by the 55 and 53 Division troops, positioned North and South of the A-9 main road, yesterday(Nov 16). According to Jaffna military sources, troops have also destroyed parts of the LTTE constructed earth bund cum ditch, while forward dominations elements claimed to have gained control over some parts of the LTTE defences along the bund line.
Troops met with intermittent LTTE resistance fire, yet continued dominations as terrorists were unable to sustain the multi-pronged military assault. The military forward push was also assisted with low altitude bombing raids made deep into LTTE defences by SLAF fighter jets, Army sources said. Military citing intercepted LTTE communication said that, LTTE terrorists were left in total disarray as the Air force fighters made dashing maneuvers pounding identified LTTE artillery and mortar launching pads in the Peninsula.
Army has also deployed the mechanized infantry battalion in support of the rear defences, the sources further said. Meanwhile, anonymous sources reporting from the non-liberated area said that, LTTE has sent experienced senior fighters to lead the disorganized terrorist elements in vain, to prolong the military advance. Jerry, Muhundan, Kadalparidi, Puhalendi and Sendeer were identified as senior cadres in charge of the LTTE elements assisting Teepan at the Northern battlefront.
Domino's are falling down.. falling down....
Domino's are falling down.. my dear mahen..
you can't build it up with crap talk..my dear mahen
the only way to save your arse, save your arse...
the only way to save your arse, is jump in the sea...
killinochchi is falling dwon..falling down..falling down
Mullaitivu is falling down.... falling down..falling down
my dear mahen...
VP has to dig a hole ,dig a hole, dig ahole
VP has to dig a hole, bigger than himself...
Vigilante,
That SF guy in LNP cannot be relied upon, he exaggerates and cooks up stories, much like the anti LTTE version of Mahen. The only reliable source is LNP in NightFox.
Let's not get too overconfident and cocky, wait and see what happens. I prefer a maximum harvest strategy to a land grab strategy.
Mohammad,
I partly agree with you, but I don't think he is deliberately exaggerating things..
He was the first to report the fall of Mankulama..
Any way time will tell..
guys,
ARVN kiyala ekek apita heeniyata arinna set wela militaryphotos.net eke.
there are 2 pages currently in the thread. bugger is updating terra vids along with SLDF photos
re-posting
sjinadasa said...
Hey guys, there was a new photo thread on SLDF opened recently on MilitaryPhotos forum (Which is a rather huge and active forum) and I was wondering whether there was anyone who would be interested in countering pro-ltte comments being posted on that thread diplomatically.
The link is http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?t=146160
Vigilante,
Agreed, I don't like celebrating before the mission is accomplished. Also I am supersitious and we might be jinxing things by premature celebrations. Let's hold off on rejoicing till the job is done.
Vambutu Puli,
I have changed my profile pic in your honour.
Mankulam Captured !!!
td
with the capture of mankulam
Army has, for the first time, officially crossed the A9 which marks a significant shift. Up o now A9 had been untouched.
[Swarnam’s vehicle attacked]
Sources - www.dailymirror.lk
Hellooo...what's going on????? :P
i think the recent push by 55D and 53D are to locate the new positions of the heavy arti's.
i have a theory regarding the ltte having used the CS gas attacks at akkarayankulam as a test-run for some other more lethal substance.
hope im wrong though,......
MZ good one mate.
may be should use the Pulli Gona side by side. Vambatu eating pulli gona :) could be a true image of LTTP
Guys , get ready our Katapols there will be another Tin Can show very soon before 26 th Nov.
Galkatas is gd weapon for Tin Can down. its work more than AA guns.
keppetipola,
You are right. We must prepare and train for 10 zlin attack simulataneously. Can we handle that? BETTER SAFE THAN SORRY!
We must prepare and minimize any damage!!!
Since you challenge me to disclose LTTE casualties, here they are:
1) Poonakari battle: 2 KIA, 1 MIA, 3 captured and inhumanely displayed in TV in violation of Geneva Convention on POWs. LTTE strategically withdrew from Poonakari and are regrouping in Paranthan area ready for a counter offensive, awaiting orders from Brigade leader to launch counter attack.
SLA casualties: Over 50 dead.
2) National fronts: No LTTE KIAs, 2 with minor injuries.
SLA caualties: Over 50 dead. Some corpses are badly burned.
3) Mankulam:
No LTTE KIAs or injuries. LTTE regrouping in Oddusudan area awaiting orders for counter offensive.
SLA caualties: Over 20 dead.
4) Kumunamalai: No casualties whatsoever and LTTE were never there in this village. This location has no strategic importance to us whatsover, SLA effectively walked into a ghost town.
Fireworks will start as we get closer to 27th.
Wow Mahen! You are the best, better than Charley Chaplain :)
Sorry Modayas, I made a mistake here is the correct information approved by Hon. VP
Since you challenge me to disclose LTTE casualties, here they are:
1) Poonakari battle: 0.02 KIA, 0.001 MIA, 0.03&1/2 captured and inhumanely displayed in TV in violation of VP&Ranil's Convention on POWs. LTTE strategically withdrew from Poonakari and are regrouping in Paranthan area ready for a counter offensive, awaiting orders from Brigade leader to launch counter attack.
SLA casualties: Over 5000 dead.
2) National fronts: No(0000) LTTE KIAs, .002 with minor injuries.
SLA caualties: Over 50,000 dead. Some corpses are badly burned.
3) Mankulam:
No LTTE KIAs(0000) or injuries. LTTE regrouping in Oddusudan area awaiting orders for counter offensive.
SLA caualties: Over 20,000 dead.
4) Kumunamalai: No casualties whatsoever(Zeeeroo) and LTTE were never there in this village. This location has no strategic importance to us whatsover, SLA effectively walked into a ghost town.
Fireworks will start as we get closer to 27th.
You wait and seeeee MODAYAS, Hik Hik (you know Medisssss)
defencewire time for an update :)
You Modayas,
Fireworks will start as we get closer to 27th.
Breaking News (BK)
Poonakari
LTTE strategically withdrew from Poonakari and are regrouping in Paranthan area ready for a counter offensive, awaiting orders from VP (Vezza Ponnaya) to launch counter attack.
Mankulam:
LTTE regrouping in Oddusudan area awaiting orders from TS From Haven (I think you know TS, Tamil Selva) for counter offensive.
Oh boy. Ive never seen this much activity on a blogspot. Not even Zibri's iphone blog can boast such.
Anyways, I am bomb jack. Pleased to meet ya all.
Strangely you all are not on milblogging. With this amount of activity you all will definitely budge GI Joe from his perch.
DW,
As usual, many thanks for the update.
SLDF....keep em running.....with their tails between the hind legs...He he he ....
27th November......Yeah.....Dream on Primates.....Dream on
poor mahen... hallucinating in disbelief,... yet again!!!
-what losers!!!!!!!!
Blogs are so informative where we get lots of information on any topic. Nice job keep it up!!
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