Saturday, November 29, 2008

Updates and more

The Sri Lanka Army is now 4km away from Nedunkerni after having captured the strategic village of Othiyamalai. They are also 2kms away from Alampil, the strategic Sea Tiger base. The LTTE is putting up stiff resistance in all areas.

23mm and 30mm Heavy Machine Guns, some of which was captured from the Navy's Dvora FACs years ago are being used extensively to keep the Army down. The high caliber rounds from the HMGs, coupled with the incessant rains are making things a bit difficult for the SLA at the moment. 23mm and 30mm rounds, even when off target, can still cause injury to troops.

The shrapnel generated from these rounds can cover a wide area upon impact. This is not the first time the LTTE has used these tactics against the Army. Many years ago, tractor trailer mounted 23mm and 30mm HMGs were used at Elephant Pass and again, recently at Nachchikuda.

Meanwhile resentment has started to set in in the rank and file of the LTTE following Prabhakaran's speech and the attacks in Mumbai. Although many cadres are unaware of the geopolitics or the actual attack in Mumbai, they were eagerly awaiting a cease-fire brokered by their friends in India. Radio communications monitored lately indicate that the rank and file have lost hope of an Indian involvement and a sad acknowledgement has set in that no one is there to rescue them.

Attacks in Mumbai

The head of the Indian Intelligence Bureau, which later became the RAW, in a paper presented to the Indian central government in 1974 had claimed Sri Lanka was well on its way to development and westernization with an outward reaching government that was closer to the United States. From that point onwards, India, under Indira Gandhi, armed and trained Tamil student groups and small political groups and organized them for a much larger cause called Tamil Eelam.

The Indians did not believe in Tamil Eelam then. Chances are, they do not believe in it now. But a few Indian and Sri Lankan Tamil groups fell into this trap and are suffering from it as a result even today. India, thus effectively ripped Sri Lanka apart and taunted its progress for almost 3 decades while it developed its economic power through western influence and money.

India today is reaping the 'benefits' of this sin. Sri Lankans, mainly those opposing terrorism know the pain of losing life and chaos of the highest order and sympathize with India at this moment. But the reality bites and it has bitten India where it hurts most.

Indian Commando Operations

The response to terror by Indian intelligence, counter terrorism and the elite Black Cats is an absolute disgrace to all armies in the world. It took 12 hours for the Commandos to be deployed and four days and counting for the Commandos to completely destroy the terrorists.

We have one thing to tell the Indians. WE HATE WHAT YOU DID TO SRI LANKA BUT THANK YOU FOR CREATING A HIGHLY CAPABLE ANTI TERRORISM FORCE IN SRI LANKA WHICH IS SECOND TO NONE-- NOT EVEN YOURS. If your Black Cats cannot do it, we will-- if you want us to.

We remember in 2001, when the Katunayake airbase and civilian airport came under a similar LTTE attack, the Sri Lanka Army's Commando Regiment responded to that challenge with flying colours. The then Army Commander told the CO of the Commandos at 10pm that day to clear the airbase of terrorists and secure the entire area TWICE before his arrival at 1.00am.

The Commandos swung into action and by 12pm, all 16 Tigers hiding inside buildings, hangars etc were dead. In the massive attack launched by the Commandos, one suicide tiger had, in utter fright, released excrement onto the baggage conveyor-belt at the VIP section of the Bandaranaike airport before being shot to death on the spot.

There were many attacks of this nature in Sri Lanka. Some of the noteworthy ones include the attack on the Sri Maha Bodhi, the attack an LTTE team launched at Rajagiriya and later from inside the Serpentine Flats, the attack inside the Lake House newspaper company, the Anuradhapura Airbase attack and more recently, the Vavuniya airbase attack.

All these attacks indicate that, although initially taken by surprise, the Sri Lankan military has always come back strong to finish off any attacking force sent in by a ruthless suicide-bombing outfit like the LTTE. We urge the Indians to come and learn from us and to join our call to rid southasia of terrorism.

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Sandun said...

Thanks DW for the Update...

India is claiming they are the best in the world. And still talking high about their NSG commandos.

But they should understand being BIG and being TALENTED is two different things.

thiru said...

here's an interesting link for u modhayas to give a real insight into the fighting and casualties to ur SLA in vanni:
http://www.wsws.org/articles/2008/nov2008/sris-n28.shtml

Theraputtha said...

DW,
this is the most valued article you written in the recent past (comparatively to only yours, of course).
thanks for the article. was it only 11 terras? india took more than 50 hours to kill them! as mentioned by themselves, they were never into a negotiation mood with these terras. so I am damn surprised! well, as you said, and as we saw on TV, indian policemen had no idea what to do...

Sam Perera said...

DefenceWire,

Please give us your take on Killinochchi front.

Mahasona said...
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thiru said...

what a hilarious article by defencewire...you talk abt the KAB attack as if the SLA took control of the situation and the modhayas in this blog wag their tail, the black tiger commandos came their with the intention of blowing up fighter jets, helicopters and air buses and knowing that they are not going to return-they were suicide bomber!....The majority of them died by commiting suicide and completing their mission and not by the "mighty" SLA....their precise planning and execution brought sorri lanka to it's knees at the negotiating table...interesting how people try to spin the story after a few years!

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Mahasona said...

"We have one thing to tell the Indians. WE HATE WHAT YOU DID TO SRI LANKA BUT THANK YOU FOR CREATING A HIGHLY CAPABLE ANTI TERRORISM FORCE IN SRI LANKA WHICH IS SECOND TO NONE-- NOT EVEN YOURS. If your Black Cats cannot do it, we will-- if you want us to."

Well said DefenceWire. Thank you very much for this update.

INDIA DESERVES BENEFITS OF TERRORISM AT A HIGHER SCHALE THAN THIS.

Mahasona said...

"Thiru" you are day dreaming.

Mahasona said...

By the way DW, why don't you try and stop this "Defence Column" idiot. He is a thief trying to steal web traffic from DefenceWire just for the sake of earning money. He is a spammer please stop him.

Ali said...

Good one DW ..

Thiru you terrorist bastard go fuck your self

Theraputtha said...

mahasona,
yes you are right. defence column is trying to steal from dw. I am sure people will visit a site when a link is published. so did I. however i did not find them useful to keep reading. so now, as you said, these links are becoming rubish to me. you don't have to put all your links here, if people find defence column is interesting, they will visit regularly and read. perhaps defence column can just put some links time to time here to capture new comers. otherwise, defence column is wasting valuble space on this blog.

Infinity said...

Defence Column's links are very valuable. Lots of information I would not have found otherwise. Those not interested do not have to read the links. Please continue.

Mahasona said...

"Theraputtha" yes you are correct. This "Defence Column" guy was hardly posted his own comments can't recall a one :) always a copy paster......

DefenceWire please ask him not to post his spam links. They are annoying. If he doesn't obey....... delete the links.

Infinity said...

It seems that the army is vastly superior to the LTTE in jungle fighting now. Advances seem to go very quick when in the jungle. Like from Nachchikua to Pooneryn. LTTE seem to lose ground more slowly in more open areas like Jaffna and Kilinochchi.

According to this, we should expect relatively fast movements along the A34 which is surrounded by jungle.

Infinity said...

Mahasona, you wrote "This "Defence Column" guy was hardly posted his own comments can't recall a one. :) "

Very strange comment for someone I cannot recall having posted here before. Or have you maybe posted before under other names, maybe many?

Ashan said...

thiru (who ever this "modhaya" is)
Nice link.. Its one of those one sided stories that you idiots find refreshing..
Yes, there are injured soldiers in our hospitals in Colombo and we have plenty in our ward as well.. 23 if I can remember.. But their story is not the same thing that your so called Socialist Website quotes..
Out of all the injured army personnel I met only a very small number (3 or 4) regrets their decision and the rest are wondering how they can go back to war and how they can finish off what they started.. They have the hearts of lions and they are not scared to die.. It's them who told me that the casualties are high but they say that's how a war is fought, When you go in and attack you have casualties that can out number the casualties of your enemy.. Don't you think for one moment that our soldiers would take a single step back to think about their lives when they are in the battle field.. If you had the chance to listen to their stories and the courage they have in their hearts I'M SURE YOU WILL PISS IN YOUR PANTS.. Cuz With soldiers like that you and your LTTE will become history after the next couple of years..

CriMeWatCh said...

hmm Democracy

Eastern Province killings conducted by Army, Chirmen says to the President via Pillaiyan


22 assassinations within two days
(Lanka-e-News, November 29, 2008, 9.45PM) The Batticaloa district local government chairmen’s federation informed the President Mahinda Rajapakse via Chief Minister Sivanesathurai Chandrakanthan alias Pillaiyan that the Army was responsible for the spate of killing that took place in the villages of the district in the past few days.

The Chief Minister phoned the President from Batticaloa this morning and asked to strengthen security and to stop killings.

A communique issued today (28) by the federation of local government chairmen stated that the Army should bear the responsibility of the spate of killing in the district in a context LTTE had been thrown out of the district. The communique pointed out that 13 killing were conducted in three days and 22 killings took place on 26 and 27 alone in Tamil areas.

The local government chairmen ask who killed the people in Tamil villages like Ariyampaththu, Kadathawalai, Kalawachikudi, Erivil alongside Batticaloa - Kalmunai road that are under Army control.

Batticaloa Municipal Council Chairman Sivageetha prabakaran handed over a copy of the chirmen’s communique to the Chief Minister Chandrakanthan yesterday (28) and the latter faxed it to the President today (29).

CriMeWatCh said...

hi DW after a long break men.
UR lying men India scenario and the Katunayake scene is two different ya. don't misguide "M"'s. LTTE are buggers kill their self at the end of a mission. they don't wait till some one else kills yo. Indians case is different. they are not like LTTE that's what almost the rest of them got caught.

haha mame u well know these "M" believe what ever u split. u may laughing by now.

AnnBurn said...

The terrorists who attacked Mumbai are also suicide killers.They came to kill and die.Their objective is to bring down India.To bring India to its knees.The mission accomplished.
The LTTE terrorists did the same here in SL.Interesting how people try to spin the story.
Now, thanks to SLDF the terror leader is prostrating before India for mercy and ceasefire.It is an irony of fate that the terror attack in Mumbai coincided with possibly the last birthday "celebration" of the most despicable terrorist created by India.
Thank you DW for writing this excellent article.

MathaMathica said...

DW,

OK, our commandos did their duty at KAB & AAB.

But in both cases, letting suicide terras enter is already a big failure.

There is no limit to improving, TAF mosquitos are their to remind us.

Sujeewa Kokawala said...

Blogger hemantha said...

It will be TF4+59+TF2+TF3 (according to many news reports).

Appreciate if you can post few here.

CriMeWatCh said...

there u are. that's the point

But in both cases, letting suicide terras enter is already a big failure.

Bold by MM

CriMeWatCh said...

O podu

A hunger strike was organised as part of the protest to condemn what they call "killings with impunity".

"We can build roads, bridges but people cant benefit from development alone. Whom do we create democracy if people are getting killed? Is democracy for the dead bodies?," Batticaloa Mayor Ms. Prabhakaran questioned.

Mahasona said...

"Infinity", I did not mean to compare the number of my posts and DC's posts and please don't do so. I was talking about that he was excessively posting lot of links which are annoying to most readers. However... even though I read the DW daily I do not always put comments...
Anybody who is keen on looking for latest news... can Google and find. However ... The problem is "defence column" is not reasonable.... he puts excessive links.. as "Theraputtha" says "DC" can put his links occasionally....

last_mile said...

Mahasona and Theraputta,

Trying to become comedians?

TigerKiller said...

"We have one thing to tell the Indians. WE HATE WHAT YOU DID TO SRI LANKA BUT THANK YOU FOR CREATING A HIGHLY CAPABLE ANTI TERRORISM FORCE IN SRI LANKA WHICH IS SECOND TO NONE-- NOT EVEN YOURS. If your Black Cats cannot do it, we will-- if you want us to.
"

Well Said DW !

Well Said

bungu said...

Who is the idiot posted a link to Fourth International article?

LMAO

CriMeWatCh said...

am worried.

Kilinochchi front..

The actual number of army casualties is likely to be far higher than the government or military spokesmen acknowledge. The WSWS found out from its sources at four hospitals—the National Hospital, a military hospital, and the Colombo South and Jayawardanapura hospitals—that about 200, 400, 60 and 200 patients respectively are injured soldiers. These hospitals are in and around the capital of Colombo.

At one hospital, our reporters saw 20 soldiers—some without legs and others without hands. Some had lost their sight and others their hearing. Many of them had been engaged in the fighting for Kilinochchi. Most were reluctant to talk, but one soldier gave a glimpse of the ferocity of the battles.

“We can’t say what the final outcome of the war will be. The LTTE has been weakened, but they are still able to attack. A group [of soldiers] came towards us smiling. We thought they were our colleagues, but suddenly they attacked us. Several of us were killed and I was among the injured. Many will die or be injured. Many will join the queues of disabled,” he told the WSWS.

Our reporters spoke to a family member of a dead soldier who used to live near Bandarawella. He was just 21-years-old when he was killed in fighting early last month. Most soldiers are economic conscripts—young men and women, mainly from rural Sinhala areas, who have joined the military because of the lack of jobs and educational opportunities.

Infinity said...

CriMeWatCh, you are right to be worried for the LTTE.

"The actual number of army casualties is likely to be far higher than the government or military spokesmen acknowledge. The WSWS found out from its sources at four hospitals—the National Hospital, a military hospital, and the Colombo South and Jayawardanapura hospitals—that about 200, 400, 60 and 200 patients respectively are injured soldiers. These hospitals are in and around the capital of Colombo."

What is the mismatch? The government acknowledges many hundred wounded each month when extending the emergency.

CriMeWatCh said...

un sean, thiren eha.

http://www.wsws.org/articles/2008/nov2008/sris-n28.shtml

bungu said...

Crimewatch,

Are u a member of WSWS? Just for my curiosity.

CriMeWatCh said...

infinity don't worry men DW/DN do report miss matched reports u have accepted so far neda? "M"


Tuesday, November 25, 2008
Kilinochchi under siege

Wednesday, November 26, 2008
KILINOCHCHI HAS NOT BEEN CAPTURED


Mewata mokada kiyanne?

Infinity said...

Bungu, "Who is the idiot posted a link to Fourth International article?"

Agree. Lots of Marxists, who are wasting their life waiting for the world revolution which bring them to power, are desperately looking for signs of this revolution. Any insurgency in developing nations is usually mistaken for a worker's revolution or a least evidence of a popular uprising against capitalism. Thus should be supported. Thus the support of LTTE by some far left groups.

CriMeWatCh said...

bungu

am a member of ma family not anybody's.

Y u think members can post links da? ask the same to defense column ten thousand times.

Mahasona said...

"CriMeWatCh" is not today if President given the Prime Ministership to Mangala Samaraweera. If he became prime minister at that time today may be "Kolu Watch" is here.........

CriMeWatCh said...

mahasona

ela kiri. any way MR enjoys haha.

bungu said...

Opposition parties were going after hospitals, funerals taken place at remote places and also places like jayaratna to find information on army casualties.

Why opposition worry about it? It is because they could use it against the government.

These political groups have never loved our soldiers.

Any one who join the army know they join to fight for their country. Some may die.

LTTP coolies and members of loser's parties must know that military action will not be stopped now just because some advertise casualty reports.

bungu said...

Crimewatch,

Go home and count your own dead.

Sandy said...

This is an ecellent article. It most rightly explains why and how the Sri Lankan crisis started, where India played a major role. That's why India left us fight each other (and not to worry about our economic growth)for so long. But, this time our government and Military have been so strong in leadership and making the right decistions. India and the other jeolous international community have no say, this time.

Infinity said...

""I was abducted by the organisation(LTTE) 3 months ago", the youth, Chandrakumar,20, has said with our correspondent. "They stormed into our home and took me away in broad daylight despite continuous pleas from my parents to set me free," Chandrakuma was quoted saying.

"I was taken to a tiger training camp at Visuamadu, where I received basic weapon training for 45 days. There were many like me who were also abducted by the organisation(LTTE), including 10-11 year olds. The training was rigorous and we were severely beaten for the slightest mistakes made. Girls were kept separately and only the seniors had access to the area, which was restricted for the rest. We were constantly told to hate the Army and the Sinhalese people. I could not bear any more of the suffering and things got worse as the Army had cutoff supply routes into the area. Some were sent to loot the food supplies sent for the wanni people. They were said that it was a part of their initial training."

http://www.defence.lk/new.asp?fname=20081129_11

CriMeWatCh said...

Bungu wish u da same dear.

last_mile said...

Nobody worries over mismatching counts other than opposition parties and LTTP sakkilies.

Crimewatch... you should worry over your father (Veza) right now.

Aathaboothan said...

thiru:

Guys,
It has been brought to my attentention, that our esteemed 'brainy' peelamist 'thiru' who calls us Singhala Modhayas', is MARRIED TO A SINHALA 'Modaya' himself!
Haaaaaaaaah!!! Haaaaaah!!! Haaaah!!!

Apparently, our self-proclaimed 'intelligent' peelamist could not find a peelam woman that was intelligent....

What these jokers say and do reveal a lot of the massive inferiority complex within them, and also reveal the fraud that these losers can conjure up ..

thiru... stop hallucinating and go screw your 'modhaya'..., you asshole!

HAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah Haaaaaaaaaaaah Haaaaaaaaah

CriMeWatCh said...

Last_mile

Y do i have to worry about Veza?
Who the hell is he to me? i don't care. I don't have a single Penney profit. just keep watching..

bungu said...

Crime,

Why do u wish me to count our dead? We don't want to do it. I suggest you count your own.

And please don't waste your energy in posting about SLDF casualty figures here anymore. No body bothers. We wont stop the war.

Send those info to Tamilnut. As our enemy they would be pleased.

Rana said...

DW thank you for the article,

Well said about India, good info on TF3 and 59. What about 57 and 58?

Indians in here who used to mock us about SL situation with LTTP, now crying and hiding from public.

CriMeWatCh said...

Bungu.. Ya its good to hide casualty figure in your ass to be on safe side. as far as i heard during last 10 days more than 1300 SLA laid their life for MR. Feel sorry for their beloved family. poverty plays in their lives.

last_mile said...
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last_mile said...

CriMeWatCh said...

Last_mile

Y do i have to worry about Veza?
Who the hell is he to me? i don't care. I don't have a single Penney profit. just keep watching..



First, there is a 100% chance that Vezapizzai be your father. As I posted earlier Veza rapes tamil girls. You mother seems to be one.

I know you as a LTTP coolie, can't make profit, you cant have sex, etc etc.

CriMeWatCh said...

Last_mile

Open your EYES pls. look around once.
ok
MR Screwing each an every body's life. not only our mother even yours dear. Support MR PAY al what u have via TAX. Enjoy ur life u want feel the pain. since all of them are "M"

bungu said...

Crime,

Shedding Crocodile tears?

CriMeWatCh said...

not a crocodile like u men. am not a ltte supporter as well as MR.

So y do i? MR pihitai

bungu said...

crime,

Why can't you see its LTTP (Tamil Racism) screwing our lives?

You do speak like a WSWS member. LOL.

bungu said...


CriMeWatCh said...
Bungu.. Ya its good to hide casualty figure in your ass to be on safe side. as far as i heard during last 10 days more than 1300 SLA laid their life for MR. Feel sorry for their beloved family. poverty plays in their lives.

bungu said...
Shedding Crocodile tears?

CriMeWatCh said...

not a crocodile like u men. am not a ltte supporter as well as MR.

So y do i? MR pihitai



You have contradicted your self. A typical socialist booruwa.

Pandula said...

Well, India has to learn even now that terrorism is terrorism, wherever and in what ever form. It promoted the Tigers as liberation fighters. And when we asked for help in ridding they sent the IPKF and it got a beating. Then too they did not accept it.
Lately, when the LTTE was being beaten well and tuely for the first time, India wanted us to negotiate. And then came Mumbai... the media was shouting their throats hoarse saying India was not ready for negotiations with terrorist? Funny, when India was telling us to negotiate with the LTTE, it has well and truely been given a true taste of terrorism.
I sympathise with all those who were killed and injured. Our commando would have done a better job far quicker. Tey have prove it, see the casualty figures in all incidents they were involved in. That will speak for itself.

perein said...

I'm sure it's not a secreate our ANTI TERRORISM FORCE IN SRI LANKA is second to none.
But truly we have unfinished work to be done. Let's complete the mission and improve more.
Then we could think about exporting the skills.

Apee kunu tikka appi isselaa hodala damu neda.

Red_Alert said...

CriMeWatCh said...
infinity don't worry men DW/DN do report miss matched reports u have accepted so far neda? "M"


Tuesday, November 25, 2008
Kilinochchi under siege

Wednesday, November 26, 2008
KILINOCHCHI HAS NOT BEEN CAPTURED


You've outshone yourself in your ignorance, little grasshopper.
A 'siege' is when you surround a garrison whilst the enemy holds out from within. These reports don't conflict in the least!

Signs of the times that you and your cronies have to resort to word games (or daydreaming when it comes to Mahen who's apparently celebrating the 'recapture' of Nachikudah) with the same amount of success as those poor conscripts and child soldiers!

M - could also stand for Madayan - as you have clearly shown yourself to be

thiru said...

aasthaboothan, i'm married to a singhalese modhaya?...no mate not married i just rent a few down at galle to shove poolsticks up their asses and see the scream for eelam.

annonymous said...

CryingWatch,

I should say [despite all my hatred to the tiger movement] tiger publications are not mere wishful thinking but well planned propaganda with some big plan in the back of their head. If nothing else, they try selling some punnakku to die-as-buruwah community for the toilet dollar and toilet euro.

But look at this site which you referred. Not only it is full of false information, but also they seem to believe in that shit !!! What wishful thinking. I do have great respect to the tiger propaganda than your wsws, sorry.

Fourth International is a remarkable organization. When post-Lenin Soviets chased out Trotzki since what he wanted to do made no sense, Trotzki lost any people to represent. He became further deviated from pragmatic matters and he wrote some theories which makes a perfectly fair world, but like the bell on cat's neck, there was no way that system can be created. If the human history is restarted it could be created. Maybe in a different world, indeed, Trotzki was out of planet.

Later on he captured similar minds all over the world - alienated individuals failing to bear the unfair happenings. Unfortunately these buggers were even more distant. The Fourth International is the prime crest of it. They represent a further point than Trotski's from reality.

We have a representation of them in Sri Lanka. They were once known as Vi-Ko-Sa [many called them Vikara Korannange Sangamaya]. Recently they came for a general election under some different name. As per their hand-outs, following is their strategy to achieve the so called Socialist World Republic.

- WHEN they win the election they let tigers take N-E.
- Capitalist and racist tigers run eelam and socilaist SL is rest.
- TN gets worked up and create a capitalist and racist greater tamil country.
- Since they are capitalists the life in tamil country goes down so badly. Socialist SL thrives, and people live in heaven.
- Suffering people of tamil country revolt against the capitalist parties and become socilaist and join with SL.
- A socialist country in combined SL and TN. They develeop even futher and this inspires rest of the Indians. Another revolution and Indo-Lanka becomes one socilaist republic.
- Similarly rest of the asia inspiared by Indo-Lanka revolt and create Aisan socilaist republic.
- Finally the rest of the world follow suite and Bingo. Fourth international and the World Socialist Republic.

Hip hip hooray.

Note that I read this myself in their official handout. These chaps are for once brave unlimited. They do not win 1000 votes out of 10mill vote base, but they have confidence to write something like above. And heck, print it and distribute it.

I hope it is enough answers for you and your WSWS posts. BTW, I reserve your right to declare, "comeon man I just bumped into that site. I dunno who the F is WSWS and 4th Intl". Fine, say so. But pls stop posting the articles from the best daydreamers of the planet.

And if they couldn't daydream at least 1000 injuries to SLDF, who is currently blocking their World Socialist Republic, well, the injuries must be very very less. hih hih hih.

Ah another, when I said this to my Vi-Ko-Sa friend, he said that I havent read enough of Trotzki and 4th Intl and there is no point of arguing with me. You may feel the same. In fact that is right. Fortunately I havent read too much of Trotzki.

All the best for the World Republic. Your national anthem can be copied from the die-as-buruwah's top candidate for the eelam national anthem. That is;

Hee Haw, Hee Haw, Hee Haw.

For the revolution brother.

Rana said...

CrimeWatch,

Watch yourself for what you say here. Do not utter, I repeat do not utter "DESHA DROHI" things for narrow political gains.

CriMeWatCh said...

Rana i don't have any single gain out of it.

enjoy ur self with what ever makes u happy.

i got to go for wrk bye.

bungu said...

Anonymous has posted a descriptive comment on ViKoSa. And Crime sahodaraya evaded it.

Interesting...

annonymous said...

Bungu,

Every time the Crying Sahodaraya comes and annoys us for his World Socialist Republic I will copy paste it.

Did you notice that he showed o bond to anything SLDF, Tigers, Money, ideology etc? Bugger has sweet spot. Will see when he replies.

Making eelam for the sake of Homo Dravidian and Kumari Kandam is a level higher day dream than making eelam for World Socialist Republic.

Dinky Winky said...

DW,
true & point well said

The indian response to the attack was very slow but it may be due to

western hostages and there may have being pressure from those countries for the sake of their citizens but yes mobilization of the commandoes and stabilization of the incident took unusually longer time


SLDF is the best in the world at the moment no two words

SLDF has the most experiance operational army & navy in the world 30+ years of combat experience we dont have state of the art weapons like the so called super military powers but compare how the super powers are faring with all the high tech gadgets

even with out the tech might we are fighting the most soficsticated & ruthless terror group in the world

SLDF We are proud of you

CriMeWatCh said...

born to suffer

http://tinyurl.com/5nu6kj

CriMeWatCh said...

http://tinyurl.com/57k7hf

OMG

bungu said...

Anonymous,

It is typical nature of Vikosa to see only bad in everything. And arguing with one is more difficult than arguing with hundred peelamists.

MrBrown said...
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Mohammed Zubair said...

If those pics of SLAF bombing is true, then its unacceptable. Civilians should be protected at all costs.

MrBrown said...

DW--
Bugger again came with day dreaming. it shows your knowledge when u compare mumbai attack and LTTE's attack in KIA. Mind you LTTE did not go to KIA to play hide and seek game. they wanted to destroy as many as air planes where as Mumbai case is totally different.. ..
well u conveiently forget that KIA was well fortified SLF base.. where as mumbai is just a business city...you should be shame for letting LTTE inside KIA..instead your boasting your comnados after losing 20 ods fighter planes..
what a losers you are.. defence ANALYST..shame on you.

CriMeWatCh said...

Cluster Bombs by SLAF. is it banned? i have no idea

http://tinyurl.com/6s3yna

Side Effect said...

nice post DW. good job! i already passed this link to few of my Indian friends as well =)

Side Effect said...

I saw someone quoted from wsws.org. FYI one of the cracked socialist party in Sri Lanka which is rejected by the people in last elections, have ties with wsws. For me they are just desperately trying get the attention of the common man just as Mangala Samaraweera.

jayaraman said...

Hey,

You peoples are struggling with LTTE for last 30 years and you ask Indians to come and get trained from you to control the terrorist. You are not even able to enter in to the LTTE controlled areas in your country for the last 30 years. Now you are doing some presence in the war front only because of Indian support.

annonymous said...

Bungu,

It is typical nature of Vikosa to see only bad in everything. And arguing with one is more difficult than arguing with hundred peelamists.

Indeed. If I summarize their problem;

"Whole world is bad as it does not qualify with Trotzki, and the only good is what Trotzki taught. No point telling that as you havent read Trotzki"

Ane Huke.

At this point peelamists have much simple agony. Their argument stand firmly on the Kumari mountain, Homo-dravidian, Homo-land, superior Primate ancesters etc etc. Even a grade five child can simply realize how stupid they are.

Ado CryingWatch, allapu gedara ekage ganita love karana eka Trotzki ta anuva hari da veradi da?

CryingWatch you owe me a reply on your WSWS.

Have they stopped posting about SLDF casualty, or have you stopped
visiting them?

Mohammed Zubair said...

Hey Jayaraman,

How many years have you been suffering with the Kashmir problem? Did I hear someone say, "since partrition". And how long did it take you to capture Veerapan? Over 3 decades is it? And when he was captured wasn't he shot in cold blood when he was in an ambulance on the way to the hospital?

MrBrown said...

''Side Effect said...
nice post DW. good blow job! i already passed this link to few of my Indian friends as well =) ''

Indians must be laughing their arse off now. Terrorist are having mini state in your country. could you do anything for more than 30 yrs. still we need indians to supply radars and we need them to operate them. How many batch of SLA gpes to india to be trained..even Fonseka was tarined by Inida too.

Polwaththa said...

Jayaram, you said

You peoples are struggling with LTTE for last 30 years and you ask Indians to come and get trained from you to control the terrorist. You are not even able to enter in to the LTTE controlled areas in your country for the last 30 years. Now you are doing some presence in the war front only because of Indian support.

It is true that India has money, people, technology and equipments, but they are lack of ability and the determination compared with the Sri Lankan forces. It is like knowledge and intelegence. Having infinite knowledge does not worth if you cannot intelegently apply the knowledge you have.

Amir said...

ho ho ho

defencewire is back with another fairy tale

moda sinhala army better than indian army

haha

God Defencewire like God gota, God ponseka is in a dream world

keep these comedy articles coming

God Defencewire

why no mention of the 'captured Kilinochchi' ?

Amir said...

latest battlefield reports

more & more poor village boys are making the ultimate sacrifice & many more are injured

jayaraman said...

Mr. Zubair,

Veerappan did not have an internal state in India or Tamilnadu. Never Indian Army, Indian Airforce is used for his capture.

You need to understand, Kashmir was a separate state when India and Pakistan got independance. Kashmir is having majority of Muslim population, and still joined with India, although major population is of Hindus. It did not go with the Islamic state of Pakistan.

Shammi said...

Thanks DW. Well said...
"If you cannot do Come learn from us...."

Invaluable Article...

Amir said...

latest report from colombo

more & more village families are saying that they are not hearing from the sons in battle

walk in the park war :)))

Amir said...

time for moda sinhala keyboard heroes to join up & enjoy the winning life :))))

Infinity said...

Defence Column, Sunday Observer

http://www.sundayobserver.lk/2008/11/30/sec03.asp

Lots of info

Amir said...

Mahasona said...

By the way DW, why don't you try and stop this "Defence Column" idiot. He is a thief trying to steal web traffic from DefenceWire just for the sake of earning money. He is a spammer please stop him.



haha

even moda sinhala don't like this Defence Column pakaya

BlackPanther said...

DW

May I pose the question again?

I know for a fact that we have a considerable amount of casualties and injuries to our (SLDF). I do do want to spell out details for obvious reasons.

Are our forces under pressure to achieve its goals and targets which is necessarality due to the advantage of the war. Is this causing unnecessary risk to the soldiers. Can we not slow the pace to minimise our human loss and injury.

Amir said...

thiru said...

here's an interesting link for u modhayas to give a real insight into the fighting and casualties to ur SLA in vanni:
http://www.wsws.org/articles/2008/nov2008/sris-n28.shtml



moda sinhala don't believe the truth

they all live in a fantasy world

Amir said...

BlackPanther said...

I know for a fact that we have a considerable amount of casualties and injuries to our (SLDF). I do do want to spell out details for obvious reasons.


don't lie traitor !

very few casualties for our brave hearts :)))

they are made of iron :)))

Side Effect said...

@MrBrown
Nope. Did your mom hit her water bowl on your head when she gave a bath to you in your childhood? Only a hopeless desperate terror supporter can think in your point of view. I wish I could post that chat log here and see what your sorry ass's reply over that. Have you checked the opinion poll of NDTV.COM? They asked whether "Have our leaders made India a sitting duck for terrorists?" and so far 94.3% said YES. Seems the Indians ain't stupid anymore but still there are bunch of stupid tamils who think that their "thaleivar" will beat the chena boys and regain his lost eelam. Cheers

Amir said...

Sam Perera said...

DefenceWire,

Please give us your take on Killinochchi front.


what ? :)))

Amir said...

Infinity said...

Defence Column's links are very valuable.


haha

modaya for modaya

"api wenuwen api"

Amir said...

Infinity said...

It seems that the army is vastly superior to the LTTE in jungle fighting now. Advances seem to go very quick when in the jungle. Like from Nachchikua to Pooneryn. LTTE seem to lose ground more slowly in more open areas like Jaffna and Kilinochchi.

According to this, we should expect relatively fast movements along the A34 which is surrounded by jungle.


moda sinhala supreme jungle warfare commander Infinity is right on the money :))))

Amir said...

Eastern Province killings conducted by Army

ho ho ho

"liberated" east

Amir said...

Rana said...

What about 57 and 58?


what ? :)))

Srilankan said...

DefenceWire,
I want india to enjoy the recent wonderful experiences of mumbai...i hope they will have loads of fun in the future...loads of FUN.FUN.and even more FUN!!

Amir said...

moda sinhala air force killing innocent civilians

barbaric sinhala animal air force

Rana said...

DW,

Tha paragraph, I like most from your article, is given below

//The response to terror by Indian intelligence, counter terrorism and the elite Black Cats is an absolute disgrace to all armies in the world. It took 12 hours for the Commandos to be deployed and four days and counting for the Commandos to completely destroy the terrorists.//

Indians always have big mouth and nothing else. They are experts on anything and everything just by talk.

Vigilante said...

Ha.Ha...Good one DW.


Indian commando operation at the Jewish Synagogue was a total flop and a disgrace to other Army Commanodes in the world. It took 3 hours for them to enter the building and in the end 5 hostages and 2 commandoes dead. Two attackers managed to do all this while Commandoes try take control of the building.

Then at th Taj Mahal hotel it was even worse. It drages for 3 full days.If you have seen the CNN footage where one commado was running towards the TM hotel, then you would think that those hostages inside the building are all DOOMED. That was the feeling I got. I thought most BOLIWOOD actors would have done better on that occasion. That was awe full...


Then few days ago, Indian navy sanked the trawler belongs to Thailand thinking it was a pirate "MOTHER SHIP" operating close to Somali sea where sea pirates run amock..

Too much embarrasment for the big brother just under few weeks..

Lets ask those terrorists not to target innocent Indians on their soil..

Rana said...

Who is this Amir f**kir shitting here posting "WHAT".

Don't you have anything else to say dog shitter, pussycat licker.

Vigilante said...

This Amir guy is a TOTAL LOOSER, waisting hard earned DIASPORA money and time.

He is responding to my DOG when it barks...Hoooo...

Amir said...

ho ho ho

sinhala keyboard hero pakaya's angry

tata said...

Well said DW!
Majority of our people are either unaware of what India did to us or they have forgotton or they just don't care.
But we should always remember what they did and should deal with them in that context.
India is not our friend. Period.
I would go as far as saying that they should tender a public apology to the things they did to SL.

Ali said...

These bastard peelamist like crime watch tiru and amir are talking about Mi deaths they forget about all their rats being made into fertilizer in the north . It will be good for the crops as I am told the shit in their brains make better fertilizer .

Ha Ha .. I am going to start a farm up there will all is said and done .. LMAO

Rana said...

TATA,

It is not did, the basterds are still doing it.

They have a habit of poking every where and every thing they see. It is decending from "HANUMAN TRIBE". They simply cannot refrain from that.

If they completely keep out of fingering our internal affairs, thia LTTP menace can be eliminated with no time.

MayilRavana මයිල් රාවන said...

jayaraman,

If you are really an Indian (and not a Dravidianist coolie) then welcome.
Indians are brothers even though Indira did us a great disservice.

Boyz,
My take is that this is just an LTTE mole.

I challenge Jayaram to just make one statement which would convince us that you are not an ltte mole.

Guys, be careful. This guy could be attempting to create anti-India rhetoric among us. India is not the enemy. LTTE and TN politicians are.

Do not fall for the trap. Interrogate him instead.

Rana said...

Somebody attached to MOD is not doing his/her job properly.

Look at the battle progress report which is updated on 29th November but both maps show progress made about few weeks back.

They should know better than that, updated progress report is ludicrous. It is time for some high level defence official to take action on accurate updates.

Rana said...

MyilRawana,

it is not difficult to see this "JAYARAMANA" bugger is against SL and SLDF. So he has to be LTTP worshipper and Vesapille's arse licker.

Suranimala said...

Koti Thru
go and tell to your reporter
Rs 100 000 =$909 NOT $100

Mu wagema muge reporter tath amukawila :)

when ever Dravidians had huge empires they wanted our country . They crossed the sea and set the foot on our soil but didn't go back with head :)))
We were better than them . We are better than them and we will be better than them.
Thats why still we have our country but Dravidians lost their country after Indian independence .

Peter said...

Need to send white van to Sunday Observer

http://www.sundayobserver.lk/2008/11/30/sec03.asp

warriorking said...

Dear thiru and the rest of the''Terro'' supporters.I know the pain of bearing the 'truth'.its hurts mate.Defeat is hurt.Why your dumb minds cannot adapt to accept the truth???No matter what you hear or see,there's a definite end to LTTE.So you all know its coming your way, and trying to deny it.Sorry my mate..our armed forces are not some jungle monkey force..they are properly trained,and well equipped and a Country's professional force,not like LTTE's ..uneducated barbarians..so cut the crap and accept the defeat..once the LTTE gone...all will live in peace...and 2020..the president will come from the tamil comunity....hail mother lanka.

Peter said...

JRJ gave "two weeks" to "wipe out" LTTE.

This warrior clown is giving time 'till 2020.


Hahaha!

Vigilante said...

WSGS did the same thing during the Mavilaru operation to demoralise the SLA and its recruits.

It is true that we are losing true sons of the soil. But there is no way we can live with the LTTE scum.

Nisal said...

DW, Thanks for the article,

It is better if you could post the indian story as a seperate article. Nevertheless, dear friends, if you have any Indian frends, please forward this article to them.

Rana said...

I have just completed the article from Lanka guardian titled "Who Killed the Doctor" by Dr. Samarasinghe.

Dr. Samarasinghe is trying to portray SL doctors as some kind of special species who need special place in the society and respected by every body no matter how they conduct.

Let me tell him one thing, The term doctor itself is artificial and not worthy itself for a man who practice medicine.

Medicine practitioners are another kind of professionals and nothing more.

Why they want a special status which is not given to engineers, accountants or lawyers?

The moment they obtained MBBS they think that they are above everybody else!

Where I live right now, so called doctors are performing much higher and nobal work than most of sri lankan doctors but they like to remain as normal citizens.

Only in SL these so called doctors rip off public with higher charges and trying to live like GODs.

Rana said...

To me there are two true doctors:

Doctor of Philosophy and Doctor of Science.

MBBS does not give Dr. title to any body, but these public and private sector employees who practice medicine are wearing title Dr. as they own it.

Not only that, they black mail govt and public whenever they want giving so much hardships to patients and sick people by their strikes.

It is good time to teach them, that they are nothing more than another set of professionals.

Ayn professional who live up to his professional conduct and ethics
will be respected by public.

Nothing special for a man who practice medicine.

Asithri said...

DW

Excellent article...

[Radio communications monitored lately indicate that the LTTE rank and file have lost hope of an Indian involvement and a sad acknowledgement has set in that no one is there to rescue them.]

This is what I heard too from some Tamil sources.

Yes, VesaParaya this time went out of his way to lick the boots of (North) Hindians and in turn, just like his Dr. Bala the ParaBalla got earlier, received a kick in the mouth from the Hindians!

Yup, evidently, these gaudy (tacky), shameless toilet-scrubbing sakkiliyas have no shame!

:(( :(( :((

OaO Asithri

wijayapala said...
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Asithri said...

Amir

[wsws]

wow!

LTTE sakkiliya, pray tell me...do you also still watch a black & white TV (and not a LCD or a Plasma panel) and does your whore-momma also still masterbate with a carrot stick (instead of with a multi-setting, electronic dildo)...???

I bet answers to both questions are a resounding YES!

LMSSAO!!!

OaO Asithri

wijayapala said...

Mayilravana,

"This guy could be attempting to create anti-India rhetoric among us. India is not the enemy. LTTE and TN politicians are."

If you're looking for anti-India rhetoric, look no further than DW's original post ridiculing the Indian armed forces. Jayaraman was simply responding to an insult against his country (although in an inappropriate way).

Thiru is a dumbass but he is correct that we have had our share of screw-ups. The Katunayake attack was a disaster with tens of millions worth of aircraft destroyed due to shoddy security, and more recently we had the Anuradhapura and Vavuniya attacks. We have totally failed to defeat the LTTE's flying tin buckets. Therefore we are not in a position to gloat over India's misfortune.

Have our forces faced a hostage situation, where using hasty and excessive force would result in the deaths of many innocents?

kappetipola said...

Thanks DefenceWire new article .. this article bring us back our old talents of DW articles.

Still Indian forces not confirmed Mumbai is 100% clear. this is so shameful for our big brother.

Indira Ghandi's time they always accused Sri Lanka for there errors thats why they create LTTE .

so now Pakistan .i dnt believe any democratic government accept terrorism.

and like wise black tigers not black anymore indian black cats not that much black now.

Indian commandos worst the situation. they don not have good Rapid Action Unit for handle these situations with Civilians .it took more than 10 hours bring those commando units.

Indian Army came with RPG's and main battle tanks to handle 4-10 terrorists.

even the Indian made machine guns not good fighting through civilians cuz of the 750 feet range its cover. and every policeman's still using .303 (750 feet range ) rifle's while terrorist using AK47.


well its a good time to harvest more LTTE terrorists. cuz even TamilNadu not accept these terrorism.

and anybody knw why these Decan Terrorist group choose Praba's Birthday for this attack?

Asithri said...

Rana

Greetings brother...

I fully agree...this Jayaraman is a LTTE whore-bastard/bitch (could be from TamilNadu..and there are still many of his ilk in that shit-hell as we know from recent events) and must be treated with the usual courtsey we reserve for them...

Which, per humble OaOA's dogma, is:

"castrate the whore-bastards/bitches with extreme prejudice"...!!!

LMSSAO!!!

OaO Asithri

kappetipola said...

Guys ,

Why Cant Man Mohan Singh discuss with these Decan millitant group like he said with LTTE ???

will see how they Discuss with these Decan millitant group.

wijayapala said...

Dear Jayaraman,

Welcome to DW.

"You peoples are struggling with LTTE for last 30 years and you ask Indians to come and get trained from you to control the terrorist. You are not even able to enter in to the LTTE controlled areas in your country for the last 30 years. Now you are doing some presence in the war front only because of Indian support."

You are correct that we have struggled with the LTTE for a very long time. When the war started in 1983, we had a ceremonial military of about 10,000 men total. We did not have a long colonial military tradition like India and Pakistan. India began giving sanctuary and support to terrorists including the LTTE, and there were few countries (such as Pakistan and later China) which were willing to train and arm our forces.

When we were about to destroy the LTTE in 1987, it was your country which intervened to save the terrorists. These same LTTE terrorists then defeated and humiliated your mighty army and murdered your Prime Minister with connivance from the current TN Chief Minister M. Karunanidhi.

We have been struggling with the LTTE since then, and now it looks like we are close to where we were in 1987 before your country rescued the LTTE terrorists. We have gotten some support from your country, but far more from Pakistan and China.

If you would like to provide assistance then we are open. If not, then kindly get out of our way and let us resolve our own terrorist problem.

Asithri said...

Apologies aside from some quarters, it was plainly obvious to the watching world (thanks to CNN) that the "Indian security establishment" (whoever the fcuk that is!) royally buggered up the situation!

The "neutralizing" so called commando forces took a bloody eternity to even get to the crisis sites leave alone any delays to engage the terrorist motherfuckers and liquidate them (of course, "with extreme prejudice" as we say in the business uh? LMSSAO!)!

Most of my Indian friends are simply appalled at this!!!

In a perverse sense, yes, this
event could not have come at a better time to put dog-shit-and-clampshut the foul mouths of the TamilNadu (translated: Tamil Nation) anti-Sinhela racist, LTTE tera-supporting, coolie motherfuckers! Yep, see how silent the bastards have become all of a sudden?

:)) :)) :))

OaO Asithri

hemantha said...

Sujeewa,
"Appreciate if you can post few here."

Please read the 'Defence Column' of Lakbima.

Asithri said...

OK got to run...a fresh bunch of LTTE thangaatchis just came to bend down and repair the earth bund!

:)) :)) :))

PEACE to my patriotic brothers/sis here...

OaO Asithri

Defence Column said...

# Vaiko attends LTTE Heroes’ Day rally in London
Click here

# Manmohan - Mahinda manoeuvres
Click here

# Jayalath accused of pro-Tiger bias
Click here

# Killer weather -- Kili in sight
Click here

# East a liberated ‘hell’, government looking the other way
Click here

neethan said...

I visit DW not for news but for "Mr.Brown" arguments. Really so funny to read his replies. I wish he will write more. One such good example is :
"Bugger again came with day dreaming. it shows your knowledge when u compare mumbai attack and LTTE's attack in KIA. Mind you LTTE did not go to KIA to play hide and seek game. they wanted to destroy as many as air planes where as Mumbai case is totally different.. ..
well u conveiently forget that KIA was well fortified SLF base.. where as mumbai is just a business city...you should be shame for letting LTTE inside KIA..instead your boasting your comnados after losing 20 ods fighter planes..
what a losers you are.. defence ANALYST..shame on you."

Ali said...

Neethan

This is not a gay sex site. You and Mr Brown can bugger your blacks asses some here else

Sam Perera said...

Iqbal Athas the Doofus,

Once again you have called the terrorists Prabakaran "Mr. Prabakaran." At the same time you have not addressed Defence Spokesman as mister. This is a clear indication of your terrorist bias. You had enough chances to correct your terrorist inclinations but you never did. As I told you nitwit earlier, you are paving your way to history's unmarked graveyards reserved for faceless traitors. Please keep going knowing your destiny.

Defence Column said...

# Kill at will
Click here

# Prabha’s no, no speech
Click here

# Art, boru-part and the LTTE
Click here

# WHY, WHY, WHY VAIKO
Click here

# Masssive 11-hour search nets 117 in Batti
Click here

hemantha said...

"All this betrays a substantive policy on the 'war' on the part of the UNP. For some time, its leaders made a joke of the capture of areas like Thoppigala, almost to a point of ridiculing the Security Forces. They kept on talking of a political solution and even federalism. Then, one morning, when they realised that the people sided with the Government's war on the LTTE, they suddenly said that the UNP did not support federalism. Now, they say that the LTTE threat must be met with a 'security response', but that a political solution must eventually be found. They don't know whether to support the war against the LTTE, or oppose it because they see the issue through the prism of how much mass support will go to the Rajapaksa Administration in the exercise thus, the contradictory statements and, knee-jerk reactions.
An unusual addition to this year's 'heroes' day speech is Prabhakaran's appeal to the Tamil diaspora to continue to extend their contributions. So it is not only the military pressure that the guerrillas will have to surmount in the coming weeks to retain both Kilinochchi and Mullaitivu. There is also the worry of foreign contributions dwindling, particularly in the backdrop of events that followed the loss of Pooneryn."
-Political Column, Sunday Times

click here.

Defence Column said...

# Cyclonic conditions ease in north-east
Click here

# Snr. DIG Lewke heads new anti-terror unit
Click here

# ‘Liberated East’ under siege
Click here

# Counter terrorism measures inappropriate: only increasing violence - Pillaiyan
Click here

# India now cannot be soft on terrorism in any way
Click here

Defence Column said...

# Bad weather halts Forces forward march
Click here

# Heroes’ Day Speech, a cry for help
Click here

# Surrender to save lives, say former LTTE cadres
Click here

# Karuna appeals int'l community to stop funding LTTE
Click here

# India will not forget LTTE atrocities
Click here

Defence Column said...

# Bad weather halts Forces forward march
Click here

# Troops progress despite rains
Click here

# Valiant Sgt. to the fore
Click here

# Prabha strikes a defiant note
Click here

# Tigers face multiple challenges
Click here

ranilb5 said...

DW,

Can you give an update on teh current status at Kilinochchi?

DN claimed SLA entered Kilinochchi on 28th. Have they established control over the city? To what extent have they?

මොරටු සමන් - MoratuSaman said...

Thanks DW...very good article...

here is the MahaVeera speach at Kilinochie...Link lol

also watch this too...empty nice looking Maveera ground Link

so sorry if my posts hurt your feelings.

Ninja said...

# Mumbai

Yep, LTTE attacking KAB, AAB etc were SLDF intel failiures - same with Indian intel. Also, we did not have hostage issues (may be in Lake house.) But even in Mumbai its really not hostage issue as terras didn't try to win any demands using hostages rather they just killed whoever inside.

But India have large number of men compared to SLA but still our SF units take control in reletively less time in AAB, KAB. Note that Indian commandos took more than 12 hours to kill the last terrorist inside a hotel.

SamP

As I know if one has a title (president, minister, professor, brigadiar..) we do not use Mr together with his name. It is;

Brigadiar Udaya Nanayakkara not
Brigadia Mr Udaya Nanayakkara.

Note that sinhala media often mis use this as "brigadiar Udaya Nanayakkara mahatha pavaseeya".

And I think we use Mr to indiacte some one is male and as an honor and when one do not have a formal title. I am not sure this usgae is now out of date and we use Mr in general for every male. Sirasa, ST, DM, SL, etc always use Mr. Prabakaran and I am not sure probably its becuz of they have respect to him or their general practice of using Mr for any male.

මොරටු සමන් - MoratuSaman said...

ranilb5 said...

"Can you give an update on teh current status at Kilinochchi?
"

Ranilb5 ""as guys we should be shame to stay home & only to see these videos in Tele or youtube....
these are people who should live more & we all are the people should die....
i feel so sorry about these guys at times... becoz.... we can live more and see how ARMY wins the war....
but some of SLARMY heros don't have that chance as they sacrifice their lives to achieve the great victory.....
So never forget them.............
we & our unborn children also owe these heros!!!! ""

watch this video for now Link

මොරටු සමන් - MoratuSaman said...

another nice video Link

see how we are doing in Killinochie...

Sanath said...

It is true DW.
i was following this scene in Mumbai since the beginning. they had no idea of negotiation and they did not even think of the hostages. they were real crazy to begin with and the comical thing is the death of 'three heros of police ' atthe beginning. it was like in Hindi film they got down from their SUV and got some body armour and helmet and walking in to hospital building with .303.
such a joke in India and all of them were kileed in no time. they cuold have thought that it a film where MGR/Kamala hassan/prabu withstand bullets and becoming heros at the end.
Such a comical country and no plan and no evaluation of the situation. they even did not know how many hostages in side those buildings. this was a very serious issue.they brought in all sort of High quality Cardboard heros in the name of NSG/Balck cats so on for a pathetic display of anti terrorism.
absolutely the Sri Lanka troops are commendable and evry country including USA should learn URBAN warfare/and tackling disaster created by small group of terrosist from SRi Lankan Forces. We have very brainy/commited personal not second to Isarael forces and actively engaged in operationa in their day today life.
it was really like IPKF in Sri Lanka.
I am sorry Mr.Waman,the so called defence analyst, you better mind your own buisness nowadays.

neethan said...

BBC Roland Buerk is optimistic that Kilinochi fall soon.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/console/b00fm02z

Ali said...

The 303 s were funny Shameful for the nuclear power

Nilupul said...

Hello DefenceWire,
Absolutely, this article is one the best that you have published. Thank you for that.

Who ever has little idea about military operations, would easily notify the massive mistakes made by the so called India monkey Army Commandos, during the whole recapturing operations. Indian incapability in Army related issues are clearly showed the world in big way and Indians should be ashamed of them self being the so-called ‘super power’ in the Asian region.

Some Tamil assholes have no idea who there are fighting with or for matters. Any Tamil lived at least few months in Sri Lanka, would honestly know that they (Tamils) have no damn ethnic issues in this country but we all Sri Lankans have to fight for their jobs and money, regardless of their nationality, religion and language. You Tamils di-ass-pora have become the biggest bunch of liars today in the world by telling all the big lies about we Sinhalese and never happened ‘ethnic cleansing’ in SL.

Your article deserve to be the best because, we all talk about these factors but no one openly put then black and white. Defencewire blog is widely being circulated among most Sri Lanka and who ever interested in Sri lanka’s security matters. So I’m personally so proud about you guys having balls to write to publish them here.

Keep it up, your good work have always been appreciated by all true patriotic Sri Lankans.

Ninja said...

Yep, we do not have direct comparission. But it took 3 days for 1000+ indian commandos to kill 20+ terras in one building. My Mumbai coclusion is I will never blame our SLA guys who are finding 10-20 tigers in miilion acres jungles in Yala, Monaragla, etc.

Ananda-USA said...

FYI. My posts at Reuters website:

http://blogs.reuters.com/india/2008/11/28/the-young-face-of-militancy/#comment-2890

Post #1:

"As a Sri Lankan who has watched helplessly the agony inflicted by LTTE terrorists on the people of Sri Lanka, my heartfelt sympathies are with the Indian people in this hour of grief. India created, armed, trained and supported the LTTE in Sri Lanka, intervened to partition our country, tried to control the LTTE when the separatist threat posed by the LTTE to India became evident, and backed out when the task proved to be too costly, leaving Sri Lanka to cope with a muderous terrorist movement. Perhaps now that terrorism ans separatism have come home to roost in India, India will join Sri Lanka in a common struggle to stamp them out where ever they raise their ugly heads on spurious pretexts. "

Post #2:

"When the bodies of 12 soldiers killed by LTTE terrorists were brought to Colombo, Sri Lanka in 1983 after 4 years of prior hit-and-run attacks against the Sinhala majority community, mobs attacked Tamils in Sri Lanka. These mobs fell into the trap set by the LTTE who used this one violent act to tar and feather the Sinhalese forever, to gain a support base, and to justify their awful terrorism that has now consumed over 100,000 Sri Lankan lives over a 35 year period. Note the modus operandi: aggressively provoke the majority community to elicit a violent response, then claim to be the innocent victim, yell discrimination and genocide, and then kill on a massive scale until the country is beaten into submission!"

Likewise, the Mumbai attackers hope to pit the Hindus against the Muslims, and drive an irreparable wedge between these two communities of India. This is the time honored formula that worked so well for the LTTE in Sri Lanka. Indians, ignore the rabble-rousers and do not fall into this trap: advise, prod and support your government in securing your country, but do not take the law into your own hands and resort to mob justice! On its part, the Govt. of India must be prepared to firmly and quickly stamp out mob violence. That is the trap! "

ravana said...

exactly what i described in last thread...more fun..one of Indian commando told BBC they even dont know the taj palace.. therefore they have to take few strangers with them too...how bad preparation for counter terrorism operation.they even dont now the place.

මොරටු සමන් - MoratuSaman said...

Nilupul Ela-Kiri, Well said... Machan


SLDF is the best in Asia...we Sinhala boys are like jaws.

I think as soon as we finish Killinochie, we must help India to get rid of tamil nadu.

haa haha..

ravana said...

Lesson one..
1.look ahead understand the territory you have to gone through.keep watching.
2.select the target.make the move.
3.hit the first one..save the second one..
4.analyze and think
5.hit the second..third..fourth go on

see what they did wrong and what our SLDF doing right now..we are basics right..

Ananda-USA said...

Bravo DW!

You hit the nail dead on the head with this article! Short & Sweet!

Ratna Deepa Janhma Bhoomi
Lanka Deepa Vijaya Bhoomi
Me' Ape' Udara Wu
Mathru Bhoomi-yayi
Mathru Bhoomi-yayi!

Ninja said...

DW

Now I have questions after Mumbai attack.

1. What kind of training SLA get from India?
2. Why indian commandos use mask (cover face)? (I think our guys don't do that.)
3. Will this affect India going to UN security council?

Man Mohan syas Pakistan should not let terrorists use pakistan soil for attacks in India. Why can't he tell the same to Karuna-nidi and Saiko: not to use Indian soil to help terras in SL?

Ninja said...

Ananda USA

Good comment at reuters.

I guess these terras want hindu extremist BJP coming to power in next election. But BJP will have no time to fight muslim terras as they will be busy with working together with LTTE for seperate hindu state as per their future national advisor NAVINDRAN. Ha Ha

Nilupul said...

Hi MoratuSaman,
Of course we should do than machan!

Not only that, I honestly believe after nearly 30 years of war against ruthless terrorists, Sri Lanka forces, specially Army has become one of the best, probobly the best in the world in counter terrorist operations. Their skills, experience and manpower can not be matched to any Army in the world today, not even US!

So I suggest, why not the SL government think about outsourcing/consulting that skill and manpower to help rest of the hard hit countries and earn millions of Dollars!

We used send our 2nd LTs to Pakistan, India and even to Bangladesh for tanning. No need any more at all!, Let them send their black/white and pink Cats to Sri Lanka to be trained under our war heroes.

Further, if we Sri Lankans have any idea of getting our economy developed, we SHOULD created an Intelligence agency similar to FBI/CIA and should start operating in other countries in order to avoid obstacles created by envious countries like India and Singapore.

Also should never allow any LTTE operators or any other assholes to start operating from other countries to sabotage Sri Lanka again and these agencies should identify and kill them before they make the next move.

Defence Column said...

# 3 INGOs to be sent home
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# 3 LTTE suspects arrested in combined Army-Police search operation- Batticaloa
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neethan said...

BBC Roland Buerk is optimistic that Kilinochi fall soon.
Listen

Ananda-USA said...

FYI

Investigations reveal Sri Lanka Guardian Editor R&AW spies in New Delhi and Chennai
Sun, 2008-03-23 11:57
By a Special Correspondent in Colombo

Colombo, 23 March, (Asiantribune.com): Investigations done by Asian Tribune shows that the Colombo based editor of the Sri Lanka Guardian who has taken a new contract of defending allegedly corrupt diplomats at the Sri Lanka High Commission in London has traveled to Chennai and New Delhi last January for detailed discussions with India's Research and Analysis Wing (R&AW) operators who are in charge of Sri Lanka.Nilantha Illangamuwa
The investigations show that the chief operator of the Sri Lanka Guardian, Nilantha Illangamuwa traveled to India to meet the R&AW spy B. Raman, and held a four hour long discussion in the Tamil Nadu capital of Chennai about ways and means of how to impose the research and analysis plan to install politicians using diplomats, local politicians and "Human rights activists" to form pro-Indian power cells especially in the North and Eastern Provinces of the country.

To use London based Tamil groups with the help of Sri Lankan diplomats to fill the vacuum by creating another Vardharaja Perumal generation of politicians was the main topic of the discussions they have had, informed sources said.

" (He) took dinner with B.Raman at residential Tower hotel, one of the best hotels in Chennai. It was serious meeting (that lasted) four hours (and centered on the) next R&AW's plans in Sri Lanka", the source told the Asian Tribune.

Two notorious spies, B. Raman and R. Hariharan are two main columnists of the shadowy website called Sri Lanka Guardian that was specially setup to serve the R&AW, that had been in charge of India's dirty work in the island nation during the long drawn terrorist uprising led by the LTTE. RAW slowed down when their Frankenstein Monster back fired after LTTE Supremo Velupillai Prabhakaran and his intelligence chief Pottuamman successfully conspired to assassinate India's Prime Minister Rajiv Gandhi, utilizing the privileges granted to them by the R&AW.

While Hariharan served as the intelligence chief of the Indian Peace Keeping Forces in Sri Lanka Raman personally planned some of the biggest civilian massacres like the Anuradhapura Sri Maha Bodhi massacre and Pettah Bus Stand massacre to bring down the then regime of J.R.Jayewardene to its knees bringing him under pressure to sign
the ill fated Indo-Lanka agreement. Hariharan few weeks ago was scheduled to fly to London to have detailed discussions with the LTTE elements but had to turn back when his visa was denied at New Delhi.

In January Illangamuwa , the editor of the shadowy website, Sri Lanka Guardian went to New Delhi from Colombo on a special invitation by the Research and Analysis Wing, our informants alleged.

Our informants said that after the meeting with Raman he traveled together with the spy Raman and visited Subramaniyan Swamy, the maverick Indian politician and the leader of the Janata Party.

The sources said, Illangamuwa had also taken a domestic flight to New Delhi to meet certain other officials of the Research and Analysis Wing, India's equivalent of the CIA.

The informant said, "While there had been spies who have been doing this kind of dirty work all throughout history to sell their motherland it is regretful that now corrupt diplomats paid by our own tax payers have retained those traitors."

The main purpose of the noble campaign instituted by Asian Tribune is not to defend the traitorous distracters and their vituperative and machination’s but to continues with the aim of containing the march and propaganda disinformation campaign let loose by the Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam against Sri Lanka and its elected government through the newly found deceptive operatives R&AW agents and LTTE’s double agents.

- Asian Tribune -

Moshe Dyan said...

DW,

a beauty!

you have stood by what you say that you report to us without bias.

i don't think any other media can stand up and say this reality the way you did.

Moshe Dyan said...

ravana,

well said, mate.

you said some of this stuff @ 8:13 pm yesterday, b4 this article!!

thanks for your contribution here.

Moshe Dyan said...

crimewatch,

SL is NOT a signatory to the cluster bomb ban. this is a VERY GOOD decision.

we can use any amount of cluster bombs, as many as money can buy and we can assemble.

tigers used a cluster bomb in the TAF attack on mannar recently.

this is payback time!!!

well done SLAF, you have made a powerful statement. nicely retaliated. i don't think tigers will use cluster bombs again.

bungu said...

Why these people stay in a IDP camp... not fighting for Vezapizza?
TamilNut
# 5-year-old girl Thayananthan Pavithra
# 7-year-old girl Rasenthiran Logini
# 9-year-old girl Aananthan Chithra
# 10-year-old girl Rasendran Jasintha
# 10-year-old male Nalliyah Jasinthan
# 15-year-old male Selvam
# 16-year-old girl Rasenthran
.....

Nilupul said...
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Defence Column said...

# The last will of Prabhakaran
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Defence Column said...

# A Service of Remembrance & Thanksgiving Holy Mass!- London
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Diලිパ said...

Dear Defence Column,

What are you doing here is Wrong. Someone may find your article interesting, someone may not. Anybody can bookmark your page and visit, but what you do is not simply Ethicle. What you are doing may be good (collecting all defence related articles at one place) but try to get up on your feet. Here you are running a your own agenda insted of DW readers :(

Ranil said...

DW
well said folks!!!!
as sad as it is for those innocents who lost lives..India is paying for what they did to sri lanka in helping lpte...
and NDTV and other news channels showed hoe pathetic elite commandos of indian forces really are...
these guys are not trained enough and have not had fellows firing at them for real...
hats off to our boys for the great job they are doing against lpte morons...
had lpte raided those hotels...the fights will be still going on...

Rana said...

SOS SOS SOS

I need help

Cyber defence map

When I click for the above, some band width exceeding problem occur, does anybody has problem like that with cyber defence map?

--- rana ---

Ninja said...

Some likes he posting all the links here some don't. Any wants to read decence column web site can directly go there and read it.

At least he can minimise his disturbunce by posting all the links in single post and posting one post per day.

Rana said...

DI***,

Please don't be jealous, he is doing a service. He may have a commercial gain but he is working hard for that.

I find his posting links are very useful, other wise we all have to search for info. It is not easy to go through all web sites and find related articles.

Defence column go ahead man, my fullest support for you. You are doing a silent service to the busy people who do not have time to surf evry web site, looking for defence related articles. You have good taste too.

If you get some money for that I am glad, mate. Indeed it is well earned.

Rana said...

Ninja machan,

You were couple of seconds ahead of me. sorry mate, though it looks like a nuisance, these links are much more worthwhile compared to postings coming from Mahen, Peter, Brown, Thiru and all other LTTP arse licking MFs.

Rana said...

Moshe,

I agree with your praise for DW but I am not sure about ravana, he is stil a mist to me. he is trying hard to be a military strtegist or an expert but with lot ofv short commings.

I see him as a retired army officer who has not seen a real battle in his life time but imagine everythings that can go wrong.

A typical looser!

sithsala said...

Use CollapseComments to make your life easier

DefenceWire,
Can you add http://coloments.blogspot.com/ to your 'Useful sites' list?

Lalith said...

Hi

DW finally put something about Mula area.

Has SLarmy withdrawn from Kill?

Lalith said...

Hi

DW finally put something about Mula area.

Has SLarmy withdrawn from Kill?

Lalith said...

Hi Rana

"SOS SOS SOS

I need help

Cyber defence map

When I click for the above, some band width exceeding problem occur, does anybody has problem like that with cyber defence map?

"

I also got the same band width exceeding proble"

I think LTTE attacked.

Rana said...

This is for Amir, Peter, Thaka thiru, brown, Bhairav, Mahen and all other Vesapillei arse licking jack arse holes,

Your f***ing looser mahaveer begged India and all other western world for help. The tiger supriemo dog has lost his teeth to bite and now begging like a gutless "GARADIYA" to save his arse from our valliant forces.

What is he, a scum of a lowest level, an a gutter worm, spineless monkey, diabetic arse hole, a shit piece of human excrement and in short Zakkili worm begging inv his knees to India to save him.

Velupille Prabhakaran, listen arse hole, there is no body to save yoyr arse now, think about about your mother, if you have one, arse hole.

BlackPanther said...

There is no doubt that SLDF is one of the best trained forces in the world in midst of all the shortcomings. But we need to acieve the next level of supremacy by being able to avert this kind of attack in SL. Its no use flushing terrorists out once the damage is done. Anticipating these attacks and averting is the key to success. There is much done to safe guard the top notch. But if the LTTE chooses to attack civilians and less guarded targets such as Major General Janaka Perera aren't we vulnarable.

Do we have a think tank to forsee such attacks and take preventive steps and use the limited resouces in the best possible way.

Lalith said...

Hi All

LTTE is still not completely defeated. As in the past, when they are weak, they got into negotiations. It can happen this time too.

ChalesAntony said...

Hi Guys, go and have a look at this video. It clearly shows how TCC or so called Tamil humanitarian Fund Raising Organizations collect money from innocent Tamil people (Whether they like it or not).

EELAM country

Funny thing is head of TCC says "Prapakaran is our president, but we don't support LTTE". These guys are so hilarious :)

Lalith said...

Hi BlackPanther

I agree with you. Look at what is happenning in the east.

LTTE is doing well coordinated attacks now.

MIA said...

Dear Mr Sam Perera,

Once again you have called the terrorists Prabakaran "Mr. Prabakaran." At the same time you have not addressed Defence Spokesman as mister. This is a clear indication of your terrorist bias. You had enough chances to correct your terrorist inclinations but you never did. As I told you nitwit earlier, you are paving your way to history's unmarked graveyards reserved for faceless traitors. Please keep going knowing your destiny.


If IA was scared about "unmarked graveyards", he should have given up his (if you know who he is) high risk job a long time ago.

He has unearthed millions of dollars worth corruption in the military establishment. Fear of "unmarked graveyards" didn't deter him.

It will not deter him now.

Sri Lanka is cursed with plenty of chest beating "patriots". They blindly support the government and critisize everything about the LTTE.

LTTE is a product of Sinhala racism of 1983. If you can't understand this there is no point wasting time discussing the "war".

Lalith said...

Hi MIA

I do not agree on the date. It started in 1956. Then in 1978, Cyril Mathiew with JSS thggers robbed the Jaffna District council election. Then they burned the Jaffna Liabrary. It started before 1983.

Ninja said...

/The death toll was revised down Sunday from 195 after authorities said some bodies were counted twice, but they said it could rise again as areas of the Taj Mahal were still being searched./ AP

Vajira said...

Indian Home minister Shivraj Patel and Security Advisor M.K Narayan have resigned. I think V.P needs to do the same for the sake of tamil people.

Lalith said...

Hi Vajira

Do you reckon that SL ministers would resign if there is a similar attack?

Ha Ha they will never. Even MR is trying to keep Thambiya against court decision

Vajira said...

OH! Hi lalith,
I don't think MR will resign and so he shouldn't as he had so many consistent victories against terrorists. Don't you think V.P should resign rather than making lame speeches asking the international community to come and rescue him???

Mahen said...

TF1 troops are completely cut off from the rest of the division due to floods, the A32 has become impassable. TF1 are completely stranded, he he he. LTTE counter attacks have already started, Pooneryn will be retaken in a couple of days.

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha, suffer suffer suffer chena boys!

Vajira said...

Look whose here! Its Mahen the Commander of the Nachchikudah Liberation force of the LTTE.
Ha ha ha ha ha ha!!!

Amir said...

moda sinhala army in for a shock

haha

Amir said...

Vajira said...

Indian Home minister Shivraj Patel and Security Advisor M.K Narayan have resigned. I think V.P needs to do the same for the sake of tamil people.


more moda talk from a super modaya

Amir said...

Renegade! said...

Tropicalstorm

http://srilankan-news.blogspot.com/

you have got to be kidding rite?

SLA operating self-propelled howitzers??..and M109's???.


Tropicalstorm is a moda sinhala + crazy man

SLA has F17's also :)))

haha

Amir said...

ho ho ho

Chidambaram is the new home minister of India

this is very good news for moda sinhala nazi :)))

Amir said...
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Sam Perera said...

MIA the nitwit,

If he wants to be a defence reporter, he should just report defence issues. He should not pretend to be a reporter whitewashing terrorists by blatantly calling the worst terrorist Mister. He shall not try to demoralize the Sri Lankan public in support of LTTE terrorists by painting the gloomiest possible picture of Sri Lanka and by over glorifying LTTE terrorists. Most importantly, he should not cook stories. As a citizen of Sri Lanka, he can take only one the side of Sri Lanka. If he wants to glorify LTTE terrorists, he needs to move in to the terrorist land Eelam immediately. He should not cover is ugly terrorist supporter face using the mask of "I exposed this corruption."

"If IA was scared about "unmarked graveyards", he should have given up his (if you know who he is) high risk job a long time ago."

He shall recognize the fact that he will not be alive if he boasted about taking risks against LTTE terrorists. He shall recognize that the above displayed ability to boast is not an option in the terrorist land Eelam.

"LTTE is a product of Sinhala racism of 1983. If you can't understand this there is no point wasting time discussing the war."

He shall realize that the above statement shows his limited ability to understand LTTE terrorist problem by pointing everything to 1983. He shall further realize that he should not get the help of Peter Ponnadurai aka Amir the LTTE terrorist to be his spokesperson.

Amir said...

MIA said...

Dear Mr Sam Perera,

Once again you have called the terrorists Prabakaran "Mr. Prabakaran." At the same time you have not addressed Defence Spokesman as mister. This is a clear indication of your terrorist bias. You had enough chances to correct your terrorist inclinations but you never did. As I told you nitwit earlier, you are paving your way to history's unmarked graveyards reserved for faceless traitors. Please keep going knowing your destiny.


If IA was scared about "unmarked graveyards", he should have given up his (if you know who he is) high risk job a long time ago.

He has unearthed millions of dollars worth corruption in the military establishment. Fear of "unmarked graveyards" didn't deter him.

It will not deter him now.

Sri Lanka is cursed with plenty of chest beating "patriots". They blindly support the government and critisize everything about the LTTE.

LTTE is a product of Sinhala racism of 1983. If you can't understand this there is no point wasting time discussing the "war".



moda sinhala animal sam perera can't understand anything

no brain

Amir said...

sinhala animals using cluster weapons to attack civilians

Amir said...



No insurance compensation for dead soldiers

The Sri Lanka Army is yet to issue death certificates for many of its soldiers killed in the battlefield, Spokesman of the 'Defence Watch', Mangala Samaraweera said.

Noting that only the cremation certificates have been issued, he said that the Sri Lanka Insurance Corporation has informed these families that that certificate was not sufficient to approve the compensation for soldiers who had been insured.

Therefore, families of many dead soldiers waste their time at insurance companies to collect the insurance compensation, he further said.

Mr. Samaraweera was speaking at the media briefing of the 'Defence Watch' on Nov. 27th.

"The SLA is to recruit thousands in the future. The government has decided to recruit them starting on Dec. 01st and send them to the battlefront in the north without insuring them for six months. These, inexperienced soldiers are being sacrificed like broiler chickens," he said.

Claiming that the government has already decided to deploy 50,000 security force personnel to defend the liberated regions, he also said that the SLA is to recruit 22, 000 soldiers and the Sri Lanka Navy is to recruit 8,000 sailors.

In addition, 5,000 and 15,000 personnel are to be recruited to the Sri Lanka Air Force and to the Police respectively, he added.



"api wenuwen api"

:))))

Renegade! said...

DW

Nice article

However I don't think u can compare the mumbai crisis with our katunayaka 2001 attacks..after all, the Tigers(Black tigers), stealthily crept in,overcoming the utterly lax SLAF security and managed to destroy millions of dollars worth of civil and military aircraft..did they achieve their mission-yes.of course..Was their death or suicide a mission failure?-not at all!!..they dint want to harm any civilans or foreign tourists at the airport for this well-executed and daring mission..therefore no hostages needed to be held..they simply wanted to wreck the SLAF and as an added bonus the national carrier as well..

Its true our SLA has vast experience in counter-insurgency operations(gained at great cost,in terms of lives lost and money),whereas the mumbai scenario is different..The main negative aspect of the indian commando operation i observed was the amount of time the Mi-17 helo was hovering over the buliding and the leisurely way in which the commandos came down on the roof..easy pickings for an RPG dude to takeout the helo,,or even a heavy-machine gunner cud have done the trick..

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