Tuesday, January 27, 2009

RAW plotting Prabha's escape?

A secret plan to extract Prabhakaran and Poddu Ammaan from the battlezone has/is in operation. A team of influential Tamil expatriates had arrived in Chennai to coordinate this mission, which is being organized by the Research and Analysis Wing (RAW) of India.

The plan was/is to extract Prabhakaran and Poddu Ammaan and bring them to safety and to coordinate disruptive attacks in Sri Lanka from abroad. It is DefenceWire's understanding that the plan was hatched under pressure from Tamil Nadu and to hold Sri Lanka to ransom over the long-run. An unspecified sum of money has been put together as the budget for this operation and two Ukrainian mercenary pilots have also been recruited, sources told DefenceWire.

The second part of the plot is to get the remaining top-ranking LTTE leaders to surrender to the ICRC, which, according to international norms, prevents any interference from the Army. This was to ensure the lives of these second and third-rung leaders will be safe and they would receive amnesty since no specific charges can be leveled against them by the AG's Department. After receiving amnesty, the men and women cannot be touched and they would be free to coordinate their plans in Sri Lanka.

There is now fresh doubt as to whether Prabhakaran and Poddu have already been extracted. The Navy said last week it had fired at a plane that had come and landed at Puthukudiirippu and left. The Air Force refused this claim. The SLAF has recently been having some problem detecting and intercepting small low-flying aircrafts.

There is also some doubt as to whether an escape was made via the sea. 10 Tigers were extracted on the 18th of this month by an LTTE Sea Tiger Boat from Pulmoddai, indicating some gaps in the Navy's own defenses.

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Colomblogs said...

More than the VP what is dangerous is Charles Anthony (son) and the second level of LTTP commanders. At whatever the way (even in customdy, white van) we must erase them.

Unless LTTE make a quick come back (unlikely) and if with a proper political solution peace will last for 10 years mean VP is 65. And in exile...so it is not that effective.

So who ever in power (likely MR) need to hold it for 10 years with no LTTE.

That will be it chapter close.

sk said...



hot news

http://tinyurl.com/aa45ed

Gringo said...

[Lazy Madayans... Continue to make sure you always outsource your most difficult problems to Hotel International Community.... They are surely going to help!
]

Or better... just walk into their traps, smiling from left to right, just like Velu dog did.

Also consider becoming a full-time cat's-paw for a part-time foreign vulture.

TropicalStorm said...

Single

Perception is the basis of reality.

The fall of Killinochchi and the convincing rout of the LTTE from everywhere in no time tells where rteh military comparison lies. The SLA outclasses the LTTE and once dismantled, there never will be another opportunity given for anyone else to organize to the same extent.

The next step of the solution is not more of the same. It is definitely devolution of power in a reasonable and incremental way to the provinces and application of economic principles to the entire nation.

The north and east deserves to be rebuilt as well.Give the people good schools, hospitals and roads and they will do the rest themselves.

Militarily SL needs to manitain its preparedness at all times. We already know how and possess the ability to upgrade when needed.

The economy is the next step, in beating terrorism and nailing its coffin.

Rana said...

hmmmm……….

Intriguing plot and a doubtful post from DW.

1. RAW wants to burry its past involvements with LTTE permanently; I can understand that but to say RAW is helping some influential Tamils to extract VP and pottu to safety of TN unbelievable. RAW may wants VP and Pottu killed or arrested for assassination of Rajieve Gandhi but to provide safe passage?
2. No body can surrender to ICRC and expect a freedom unless SLG agree with them. In this case SLG simply will not let ICRC to interfere with criminals. This is an absurd suggestion.
3. VP and Pottu already have been extracted, pure speculation and no evidence at all.

I have problems with this post, DW may have made a mistake in haste to provide an update or somebody else has written the post.

DW can you elaborate further on this?

What you all think?

Rana said...

TS,

Agree, mate.

Vigilante said...

SF @ LNP
==========
gys ull hear some good news in a few hrs...war as i said in the last thread is over...

only the final decimation left...

sk said...



defencewire is a big joker like specialforce,upula in lnp

all of these jokers don't know whats going on

RAW coming to save thalivar

lol

Anonymous said...

URGENT: ARMY SOURCES REPORT;THAT CHALLAI HAS BEEN TAKEN AND THAT VISUAMADU;THERAVILKULAM AND PUTHUKUDDURIYIUPPU ON THE A-35 WILL FALL IN THE NEXT 24 HOURS!THE FINAL VICTORY IS CLOSE,BROTHERS

sk said...

cj

final victory will never come

don't be a fool

Vigilante said...

SK,

Eealam will never come too..

Rana said...

cj,

You have posted the same message now number of times!

We have seen it already 5-6 times.

What is wrong with you?

NOLTTE=Peace said...

Sk,

Your madayan have got hold of an old photo that has been taken when they were in a train station in Ukrain.

Transporting Battle Tanks on a train is a normal occurance in the Russian federation.

The two monkeys have never seen such movement and have gone closer to take a look. I can see their mouths are watering too.

Tamilwin is giving Punnakku to naive die-ass-pora to believe that these tanks are destined for LTTE.

ROFL! http://tinyurl.com/aa45ed

Gringo said...

NOLTTE=Peace...

I fell off the chair, laughing!

Anonymous said...

nothing is wrong with me,you stupid LTTE-bandits.You jsut cannot hear the truth of your soon coming defeat. Guys,please read,what i saw on a LTTE-forum:

"The LTTE command stated today,that the Tigers will be able to hold the A-35 for many weeks to come and that a large counter-offensive will start soon. The Tigers will recapture Mullaittiu,Killinochchi,the Elephant Pass and Pooneryn soon"

LOL LOL LOL

Anonymous said...

in this context i have one question to the forum-tiger-terrorists here:

Will you start your counter-offensive before or after the fall of Puthu..., Theravilkulam and Visuamadu in the next 24 hours"?????? hohoho

sk said...

NOLTTE=NoPeace

don't be a modaya

action coming soon

hik hik

sk said...

Rana said...

cj,

You have posted the same message now number of times!

We have seen it already 5-6 times.

What is wrong with you?


don't ask questions from cj the keyboard hero

sk said...

cj the keyboard hero is right

war is over

hik hik

Anonymous said...

oh SK,you are really a main LTTE-propaganda-hero.Please tell me,when will you seize Jaffna? And when will the LTTE lay a siege around Colombo??? In three weeks,after the start of your huge counter offensive??? When will the Tiger-flag flutter in Colombo?? In four weeks???

Colomblogs said...

Devolution of power..

I always ask this. "What are the problems Tamils in North will have just being tamils..? And how it differ from the poor man in far south..?"

Can any Sinhla voice heard in 2nd cross street, Wellawatte, Alwis town-Wattala..? And yet any Sinhalese complaint about it..?

In my opinion (I am not an consitutional expert) we need to re-adjust the borders of provinces.

We still uses the "Sudda" made borders both pysically and mentally. All the borders made by British are the world's only problems (India-PAk, Palestine-Israel..). They are outdated now.

So re-adjust them in a practical way (you can't please everyone) and create a power model for these units. That power model should valid not only to North/East but also to Uva, South and North Central. Then only we can relax that who ever coming to the pwoer will not effect the regional develoment.

And that model should be like India/USA. Whoever come to the power not able to change the master plan but only the operation adjustments.

Unless Ran-Banda in Matara-Aparekka need to wait till someone from South to become president to make the roads. And Subramaniem in Chalai have to fight for someone from North to become President to make his hospital.

All the models we talk are based on existing lines and maps. Time to think out of those lines and boxes..

Anonymous said...

/sk said...

NOLTTE=NoPeace

don't be a modaya

action coming soon

hik hik/

Just wait and see (TM) hik hik

Moshe Dyan said...

thank you DW for the fantastic post. 100% with you.

"we serve no one but you". of course!

"The SLAF has recently been having some problem detecting and intercepting small low-flying aircrafts."

thank you for this too. 50% there. from interception to interception & detection. i've been saying this for a LONG LONG time. the problem was NOT interception but detection.

Moshe Dyan said...

RAW is indeed plotting vezapillai and pottu's escape.

EVIDENCE 1
the plane that went pass putu a few weeks back was travelling faster than a plane in LTTE's posession. it was actually faster than the sea plane anton balla was travelling too (i did the calculation sometime back).

so it MUST be a different aircraft and india is the OBVIOUS suspect.

EVIDENCE 2
anyway that plane had breached indian air space if it took the path as reported.

why india took no action against that plane???

these two pieces of evidence covers all the possibilities about the incident. either way india is at fault!!!!

Rana said...

Single,

I am against any devolution of power in SL. WE should even abolish provincial councils too. Too many politicos in provincial system are too expensive for the country and mess things for all. GOSL is more than enough to look after this tiny island and its affairs.

People should be free to choose where they want to live, integration of all ethnicities into one as Sri Lankans is the answer for racial harmony. We must see that north and east have a fair share of Sinhala and Muslim communities living with Tamils peacefully.

Moshe Dyan said...

rana,

the solution is NOT devolution but ethnic integration.

there is NO OTHER solution.

Moshe Dyan said...

some shallow brains cannot think beyond rajic ghandhi.

RG was just one politician and indian policies are NOT governed by who killed him!!

india wants SL to be under its influence and they will do ANYTHING for that. creating a "region" in SL that dances to the tune of an indian state of tamil nadu is part of the plan. india continuing to be important to SL's unity is the other plan.

if the problem is fully resolved, india loses both these tools.

RAW saved vezapillai at least three times b4 and i'm not surprised if it does it again.

NOLTTE=Peace said...

Was it a Ghost Ship or a Norwegian Ship came to pick up LTTE rank and file who changed the flag later?

http://www.island.lk/2009/01/28/news5.html

Gringo said...

[People should be free to choose where they want to live, integration of all ethnicities into one as Sri Lankans is the answer for racial harmony. We must see that north and east have a fair share of Sinhala and Muslim communities living with Tamils peacefully.
]

That's is my position too.

There is a major discrimination that has been going on against the folks in the south. They are prevented through certain laws in buying and developing land in the NE... although folks from the NE are major players in the real estate market in each nook and corner of the country.

This has to change with immediate effect.

Live and let live any Sri Lankan wherever they want in the country. That's the freedom that is visible.

Rana said...

Moshi,

//the solution is NOT devolution but ethnic integration.

there is NO OTHER solution//

Fully agree with you, mate.

//india wants SL to be under its influence and they will do ANYTHING for that. creating a "region" in SL that dances to the tune of an indian state of tamil nadu is part of the plan. india continuing to be important to SL's unity is the other plan.//

Agree to a certain extent and as general condition India wants to keep volatile Tamilnaadu situation under control by destabilising SL too. However present Congress I is reluctant to do it openly.

//RAW saved vezapillai at least three times b4 and i'm not surprised if it does it again.//

What you are suggesting here is RAW go against the wishes of centre? I have some reservations about that.

Moshe Dyan said...

rana,

surprise, surprise!

RAW is ACTUALLY working according to the centre!!!

i agree there is a small mismatch between indian national interests and ICongress's political/personal interests. but unlike in SL, national interests prevail MOST of the time.

the indian stake on SL is VERY complex. india DOES NOT want SL to be divided into two nations of SL and TE. that will be a big headache.

but is also do not want SL to come to a position where indian military relevance becomes zero. the ideal position for india is SL to remain between these two extremes.

e.g.

it is like JVP's economic policy.

1. it shouts for the poor and tries to give more money to the poor.

BUT

2. it hates if the poor becomes rich in which event JVP loses its votes!!!!

so, it manages a position between the two extremes.

same with CWC and UPF on plantation workers' welfare. not too much not too little.

some NGOs are also like that. if the war ends, their projects in SL will be terminated or reduced. that means no money or less money. so they try to MAINTAIN a position of permanant trouble.

Ananda-USA said...

LTTE Diaspora Propaganda Network out in Full Force Now. Patriots Needed to Counter Their False Allegations!

My Comment at GlobeAndMail.com
Posted 27/01/09 at 7:00 AM EST

You (Lanka Deepa, from San Francisco, United States) wrote:

I have never heard of such preposterous claims of cruelty by Sinhala soldiers any time in the last 30 years as recounted here.

This is a part of the Psy-Ops practiced by LTTE supporters to demonize the Sinhala majority in the eyes of the world, in their claim of permanent victimhood to gain sympathy. The LTTE supporters and apologists commenting here keep citing 'intolerable discrimination' against Tamils by Sihalese, when what they are really saying is that they mourn the loss of the privileges they enjoyed under colonial rule in Sri Lanka for helping to suppress the Sinhala majority, and are now unwilling to live as equals with the Sinhala majority. They were motivated to make these demands by the military weakness of Sri Lanka, with its 5,000 man ceremonial army, and encouraged by assistance from Tamil Nadu and India, to carve out a racist, apartheid, Tamil-only state in Sri Lanka, using discrimination as a pretext.

They attacked the Sinhala people over 4 years, to provoke a violent response, and then ran to the world yelling we can't live with the Sinhalese, they are killing us. Nevertheless, since the 1983 riots, over a 30 year period, despite over 100,000 Sinhala people blown to bits and hacked into pieces, entire villages of Sinhala and Muslim people massacred and ethnically cleansed, and every moderate Sri Lankan Tamil dissenter murdered, there has not been one instance of violence by civilian Sinhalese against Tamils. Just do a search on YouTube.com to see for yourselves. Even when the LTTE controlled nearly 35% of Sri Lanka, 85% of Sri Lankan Tamils lived in peace and safety among Sinhalese in the Sinhala South, not among their diabolical saviours.

Do not be misled by this network of con-artists. Their plea for your sympathy is only as deserving as that of the man who axed both his parents to death and then pleaded for clemency because he was an orphan.

Ananda-USA said...

Jay said...

$300 million wasted as a result of the incompetance of CPC/Minister/Finance Ministry.

But consider this: If oil prices continued to rise, this oil hedging deal would have protected Sri Lankans against unaffordable oil costs that would have shut down transportation, businesses and some electricity generation. There was no way of predicting the precipitous decline in oil prices triggered by the home mortgage crisis in the US that spread to other sectors and countries.

Exactly the same thing happened in California during the electricity generation crisis a few years ago, when the then Gov. Gray Davis tried to stem the tide by hedging. Market manipulation by Enron exacerbated that crisis. Gov. Schwartznegger came in claiming incompetency on Gray Davis's part, but guess what, he and California is now mired in a budget crisis triggered by falling tax revenues that eclipses Gray Davis's problem.

In short, hedging is practiced in various market sectors to protect investors and consumers against price increases (and decreases). If the price rises, and you are protected against that, you congratulate yourself on your smartness. But, if it declines, you lose the hedge fee, which is a very small fraction of the anticipated price increase. It is an INSURANCE cost; people should be happy that their leaders tried to protect them by buying that insurance, instead of leaving them wide open to a much greater financial disaster!

I have bought homeowners insurance, earthquake insurance, life insurance for a great many years, and have not received an "insurance payout" on those payments. But I am ECSTATIC about that; the alternative could have been far worse! My house could be destroyed, and I could be DEAD!

Ananda-USA said...

My Comment at GlobeandMail.com

You (Lanka Deepa, from United States) wrote:

The LTTE never cared for their people. Would any leader with a modicum of compassion demand his followers to committ suicide by cyanide pills to avoid capture, conscript underage children by force, direct artillery fire onto one's own people to claim the Sri Lanka Army did it for propaganda purposes, order all seriously wounded LTTE fighters to be killed so that they would not be captured and treated in hospitals by the Sri Lanka Army? Would a compassionate movement intentionally engineer a mass exodus of into western countries such as the US, Canada, UK, Germany etc, claiming to be refugees from violence but who are in fact economic refugees, charge them exorbitant smuggling fees, unload them onto the welfare systems of host countries, and them subject them to violent mafia-like control and extortion?

In contrast, the Tamil people in LTTE areas of the North & East of Sri Lanka were supplied with food, medicine, fuel and all other essentials by the Government of Sri Lanka (GoSL), largely at Sinhala taxpayer expense, while the LTTE was wantonly murdering people on a massive scale. All teachers, doctors, nurses, administrators in LTTE areas were, yes, paid by the GoSL. Never in the history of human conflict has any government displayed this much compassion for people in enemy occupied territory, who provided the recruits for the enemy's fighting force. This is not how Gen. William Tecumseh Sherman demolished the will of the Confederacy in the US Civil war,laying waste everything in his path during his march through Georgia from Savannah to the Sea. Even today, in the final stages of the war against the LTTE in Sri Lanka, the GoSL is bending over backwards, to assist and protect civilians. It is the LTTE that is firing artillery from the safe zones declared by the GoSL, and is using civilians as a human shield, again displaying their signature callous disregard for human lives.

Moshe Dyan said...

this is an excellent analysis of political solutions by Dr John Pulle

Harping on a political solution to the ethnic problem in Sri Lanka has become the favourite pastime of many. According to them there is an unspecified political solution to the ethnic problem. It is easy to blame politicians for not coming up with a political solution but it is complex than what meets the eye. In fact many political solutions were given to the problem, but, all failed to quell it. The 13th Amendment proved to be a very costly experiment. It established Eight Provincial Councils with a very heavy public burden. However, nothing happened, nothing changed! Many more political solutions were proposed. Ironically they were cut down by the very same people who are now crying for them! Premier Tamil politicians were instrumental in crippling the ‘political package’ that was proposed by the CBK administration. A few Sinhala and Muslim elements also did their share to cripple the political solutions process. Even if it had gone through there would not have been any difference.

It is important to define the problem before attempting a solution. Few facts need to be addressed beforehand.

01. Is there an ethnic problem in Sri Lanka? Yes; for reasons explained later.

02. Will a political solution end LTTE’s violence campaign? No; because LTTE is not driven by the people and violence is a way of life for senior LTTE leaders who can run their project regardless of what Tamil people feels about it. A classic example is the plight of about 250,000 Tamils civilians trapped in Vanni. They know that more than 2,000,000 Tamils are living outside LTTE controlled areas. The few that are trapped very much want to escape the LTTE but have no say and no way. LTTE tells them what is good for them!

03. Will there be permanent peace if both the ethnic problem and the LTTE problem are resolved? No; Sri Lanka, as any other developing country, will have its share of violence in the society. Wide spread discontent in the society irrespective of ethnicity, the high crime rate, high suicide rate, the likelihood of a third JVP-style insurgency, violent trade union action and counter-action, bad effects of globalisation and political violence are possibilities. These have long term solutions and until such time, they will remain unresolved. It is worthwhile to note that within 12 years of gaining Independence, a Prime Minister was gunned down in this country. What’s worse; culprits were not punished! It testifies to the ample violence in the society even before the beginning of the war. Expecting a utopian peace in the short term is foolhardy.

04. Is there an ethnic conflict in Sri Lanka? No; although there is an ethnic problem and a conflict there is no ethnic conflict. If truth be told, contemporary Sri Lankan society in government controlled areas is an example of ethnic unity amidst war. If the conflict were an ethnic conflict, Colombo would be the battlefield, not Vanni!

Unfortunately these four trivial and straightforward issues dominate the discussion about political solutions and as a result, real issues remain buried.

The biggest hindrance to solving the ethnic problem is that it has at least two contradictory definitions. There is no possibility that these contradictory definitions can be summed up into one definition; they by definition contradicts one another. If anyone gives a combination of both definitions, he is only suppressing one and elevating the other.

Definition Number One

Ethnic Problem is the lack of unity among people of various ethnicities and the lack of ethnic diversity in parts of the country.

This is the popular view. Unity, coexistence, interdependence and harmony among people of various ethnicities in Sri Lanka is an untold success story. There is no ethnic disunity in any part of the government controlled area in day to day life. Every district of Sri Lanka houses thousands of Tamils. However, divisive forces are still at play. They play the race-card for their survival. A good example is race-based political parties. Although a large number of Tamils and most Muslims have embraced the two national political parties, race-based political parties still exist. Their very survival depends on ethnic division.

Also there are at least three districts in the north where Sinhala and Muslim civilians were completely genocide by the LTTE. Today Sinhalas and Muslims cannot live in these districts because of their ethnicity. Stemming from this is the next aspect of the problem: lack of ethnic diversity in the north. Vast resources including infinite expanses of land in the north must be available to people of all ethnicities.

A political solution should strengthen unity among ethnicities, erase demarcations and divisions and cause ethnic diversity in the north. For such a solution, there is no need to create regions vested with power, no need of devolution, no need to have racial bargaining and absolutely no necessity to entertain racial aspirations.

The argument justifying devolution based on development doesn’t hold water. Undeveloped areas are best developed according to a national development plan than pursuing a regional development plan. The tragedy of provincial councils in carrying out development work is well known. This has happened despite the fact that all these councils have the same ruling party as the centre. It is up to the imagination to see what would happen when different parties run the two institutions! It will be total havoc. In addition there are enough and more regional administrative bodies like municipal councils, town councils, pradeshiya sabhas and GS divisions that can handle all regional issues.

The concept of racial homelands is totally rubbished by this view that only recognises one undivided nation for all the people to live everywhere. Race is not a consideration in this definition. Grievance handling is done without regard to ethnicity. The overriding notion is that “Sri Lanka should be for Sri Lankans”.

Military operations are enablers of this solution and military deployment in troubled areas is consistent with this view. As this is the popular view, it assumes that democracy should be allowed to make decisions.

Definition Number Two

Ethnic problem is about not fulfilling Tamil aspirations. Tamil aspirations include the acceptance of the Tamil homeland, Tamil right of self determination and Tamil nationality. Ethnicity matters most. If these demands cannot be granted outright, they must be granted in part. By the very least something must be granted that can be subsequently developed into these aspirations.

The political solution should actually create disunity in the country to the extent that space is created for Tamil aspirations. If the country remains unitary (the highest form of unity), there would be no space for these Tamil aspirations. Too much unity means Tamils will have to conform to the general Sri Lankan values and lose their aspirations.

North and the east must be unified so that a large part of the traditional Tamil homeland will remain in one piece. Colonisation schemes that change the ethnic balance of the north-east should stop. Regions should be vested with power, including legislative power and power over the subject matter of land. Power should be devolved to the largest possible unit created in the north-east. Development is a secondary objective as development without Tamil aspirations means nothing!

Race-based political parties are the key to governance and they must be promoted. The overriding concept is Tamil aspirations and Tamils, especially Elam Tamils have a say in governance of the north-east whether they live in Sri Lanka or not. Tamil Diaspora’s role is critical.

Military operations stand in the way to peace, in this view. Essential military activities may be carried out, but they too should cease at the earliest. Certainly no large “occupying army” should be barracked in Tamil majority areas. Democracy alone cannot guarantee this type of a resolution. Therefore, a certain amount of imposition is required to quell the majority rule. Help and pressure of international actors are musts in finding a solution based on this view.

Contradictory

Each of the definitions (the first definition and the second definition) contradicts the other. What’s more interesting is that a solution found according to one view, is a problem according to the other.

Suppose a solution was introduced that further strengthens the unitary status (the strongest form of unity) of Sri Lanka, allows “colonisation” of the north, helps national political parties to gradually replace race-based political parties or establishes a grievance handling procedure without regard to race, that “solution” will be seen as the intensification of the ethnic problem by those who hold the other view.

Similarly, if a solution introduces a federal structure in place of the present unitary structure, starts addressing race-based grievances, starts addressing problems from a racial perspective or further strengthens race-based political parties, according to the definition number one this “solution” would amount to the worsening of the ethnic problem.

One man’s solution is another’s problem!

All the pundits who advocate an unspecified political solution carefully avoid this reality. Those who suggest specific solutions, try to impose themselves on others. No attempt has been made to understand and respect these differences. It must be noted that no lasting solution can be implemented by hoodwinking one or both groups. These two views cannot coexist as they contradict each other. Superficial attempts to reconcile the two fail to bridge differences that arise outside the drawing board.

A Compromise

Theoretically a compromise should be possible. However, given the completely opposing views, a compromised solution will not work at all. A compromise between the two would only disappoint both groups and aggravate the problem. This has happened too many times. A worse situation can arise from a compromise. If only one party compromises, the other (the uncompromising party) can demand further compromises. This way the uncompromising party can gradually drag the other party into it’s extreme. Unfortunately this is what happened with all political solutions in Sri Lanka. Tamil Elamists demanded compromise after compromise from others while not budging a bit. Their greed knew no end that it ultimately led to the total breakdown of the political process. Certainly a compromise is not going to work again; it will only disappoint both groups and convince them to adopt graver methods!

Ignoring the problem is another way to handle it than complicate matters! Most Lankan politicians took the easy way out. However, the ethnic problem demands a resolution.

What should the resolution be?

The solution is out there

The ethnic problem coupled with the war, wrecked havoc throughout the country; mostly in the north-east. Commander after commander plundered the north-east in search of peace. Tigers too bombed civilians in the south hundreds of times. Amidst all these chaos, there are people who found solace, harmony and relative peace. They ran to these oases in hundreds of thousands from warzones.

There is a big difference between where they ran from and where they ran to. They essentially ran from mono-ethnic enclaves in the north to multiethnic communities in the south. Race mattered most in the mono ethnic enclave but it mattered less in multi ethnic communities. Belonging to the “right” race was a prerequisite to live in the mono ethnic north but was not so important in the multiethnic community in the south.


Had they waited till politicians found a solution to their problems, they would have died by now! Not only did they run to the solution, they became an integral part of the solution! Unfortunate events of 1983 didn’t repeat thereafter thanks to the multiethnic community that flourished in the south. Few unfortunate matters that affected only a fraction of the Tamil community in the south has happened by that left hundreds of thousands of them without a scratch. Unfortunately the north was cursed with tribalism and ethnic isolation which further bred intolerance.

If the southern model is introduced to the north, it will be as peaceful as the south. Of course it will not solve the terrorist element which has to be addressed militarily.

This solution although looks like a combination of the above discussed definitions, is actually divorced from both views. It is not based on a theory to begin with. It all started when people found a solution out of the mess that existed around them.

Politicians, academics, professionals, diplomats, priests and even Maharishis can split hair about importing alien solutions but none will work as the people’s solution has worked.

Also it is a fact of life that some problems do not have solutions. For instance there is no room for a separate Tamil (or Sinhala or Muslim) nation in the island of Sri Lanka. This fact must be formally established. That will not give any solace to those who want it, but it will help them recover from the misery of not having a solution to their problem. No solution can satisfy all.

Ananda-USA said...

My comment at GlobeandMail.com

You (Lanka Deepa, from San Francisco, United States) wrote:
Posted 27/01/09 at 5:29 PM EST

LTTE Supporters among the Sri Lankan (SL) Tamil Diaspora in western countries, and Indian Tamils in Tamil Nadu, are the only people who support the LTTE; the SL Tamils in Sri Lanka are heartily sick of the LTTE who enslaved them, tortured them, and killed them. These Diaspora Tamils, largely unimpacted by the violence they sow, still yearn for a racist aparthied Tamil-only Eelam state in Sri Lanka; which will never be realized. In the coming years, Sri Lanka will move towards one Sri Lankan identitity through ethnic integration; there will be no Sinhalese, Tamils, Moslems or Burghers in Sri Lanka, only Sri Lankans. There will be only one nation, populated by one people who love this Ratna Dipa Janma Bhumi of ours.

Do not be misled by this network of serial con-artists. Protect your own countries against separatism espoused by them pursuing the Greater Dravidian Nation agenda as articulated by Vellupillai Prabhakaran, and rabble-rousing communal Tamil Nadu leaders such as Karunanidhi, Vaiko, Ramadoaa and Tirumavalavan. Today they are begging for your understanding and help, all tears and smiles, but tomorrow they will seek to displace you from your own hearth and home. Equal rights and equal responsibilities are not for them; they seek dominance in pure-Tamil Eelams all over the world. Learn from us Sri Lankans who have suffered from their manipulative machiavallian schemes.

Their plea for your sympathy is only as deserving as that of the man who axed both his parents to death and pleaded for clemency because he was an orphan. If you love your people, think before you leap to conclusions!

Anonymous said...

Ananda USA

Good job

Rana said...

Moshi,

OK, tell me this: What India is going to achieve, if RAW managed to get VP and Pottu safely out of SL and hand over to this so called highly influential people?

On the other hand India is endangering its reputation locally and internationally against terrorism by helping LTTE leadership.

If Tamilnaadu helps VP and Pottu to escape, it will be a private and personal involvement, nothing to do with centre or provincial governments.

Sam Perera said...

Poor Sucker SK was complaining about India sending military aid to Sri Lanka as reported by TamilNet.

Palitha said...

Lalith,


58.

Ananda-USA said...

Tropical Storm said...

It is definitely devolution of power in a reasonable and incremental way to the provinces

TS, I could not disagree with you more!

This is the same path we have trodden in the past, and is a way to give the LTTE-supporters in peace what they failed to win in war.

Tilo said...

What the fuck is wrong with India !!!. don't they have their own problems to sort out... SL needs to get Pakistan more involved in this matter." an enemy of an enemy is a friend " India needs to realize that once eelam is out of reach for the terrorists they are gonna make a move on the state of Tamil Nadu, If india has it's territorial integrity in mind they should keep a close watch on these tamil nadu jokers. Tamils are one of the only races in the world that don't have a independent state for themselves, Which i think is a unfortunate situation.

Sri Lanka is an example for the whole world, Sl has shown that terrorism can be defeated by military means. negotiations aren't the only solution when it come to dealing with terrorists.

Moshe Dyan said...

rana,

"What India is going to achieve, if RAW managed to get VP and Pottu safely out of SL and hand over to this so called highly influential people?"


i don't know about handing them over to some ppl. india might try them for the assassination of RG.
they may or may not be punished.
also they are THE MOST VALUABLE to learn about terrorist warfare.


"On the other hand India is endangering its reputation locally and internationally against terrorism by helping LTTE leadership."

yes. that is why it is done through RAW - the secret service. all big boys do this. they get their secret service to do the dirtiest jobs. even if exposed formally, it doesn't matter. there is nothing anybody can do.

"If Tamilnaadu helps VP and Pottu to escape, it will be a private and personal involvement, nothing to do with centre or provincial governments."

this is connected to point #2. centre and provincial governments do not want to have bloody hands. so they get the secret service to do it.

this type of things are VERY common in modern world. even among friendly countries!!!
CIA had a hand in IRA; mossad had guys in CIA (and vice versa), coalition forces have guys in the sunni camp of saddam hussain, france bombed the RW in new zealand although the 2 countries were best friends b4, etc., etc.

wijayapala said...

Saul,

"I can certainly share my views; however, I am here as much to learn from you guys as to share any perspective I may have."

You have a great deal to contribute. Sri Lankans tend to have a superficial knowledge of India and you're in a position to set some ideas straight.

For example, a lot of us believe that north and south Indians don't get along and that N. Indians will be natural allies of SL or the Sinhalese, because of Indo-Aryan linguistic similarities or similar bullsh!t like that. We don't understand that while politics in India might be all local, the Indians tend to come together regarding their strategic interests. Mumbai, for example, was felt in Delhi, Kolkata, Chennai, and other places and cannot be described as a local phenomenon. A north Indian essentially is closer to a southie than he is with any other person in the world.

Maybe when we realize that we are closest with our SL Tamils, and when the SL Tamils realize they are closer to us than they are with Indian Tamils, things will get better in SL.

I have noticed that Indians tend to be conscious of SL security links with China and Pakistan. As I mentioned before, these were largely the result of the need to get weapons to fight the LTTE. With the war coming to an end, the priority will shift to reconstruction and rehabilitation. India can find opportunities to get involved and help which would result in a more positive image and influence.

Moshe Dyan said...

TS,

"Give the people good schools, hospitals and roads and they will do the rest themselves."

agree with the first part but disagree with the second part.

you may compare good schools, good hospitals in the north b4 1983. much better than the rest of SL even better than colombo!!!!

what happened????

we MUST destroy the ABILITY to get tamil elam. the ONLY SURE way to do that is to have sinhala and muslim ppl in the north at least equalling the number of tamils.

after that can anyone claim tamil elam???

no. if they do, still fine. tamil elam will have a non-tamil majority!! no one will take them seriously and even if a referendum is held in the north and east, ppl will decide against tamil elam.

territorial intergrity of the nation is too precious to depend upon hearts and minds of volatile ppl living in a historically volatile region.

Peter said...

How do you expect tamils to expect to integrate when ethnic cleansing is going on?
What's actually happening is tamils are being ethnically cleansed from non liberated areas into safe SLA held areas.

Bhairav said...

With every LTTE cadre killed genocide is happening.

If LTTE had the same weapons as SLA this could be the other way around. Dont forget that!

Rana said...

Wijayapala,

// Maybe when we realize that we are closest with our SL Tamils, and when the SL Tamils realize they are closer to us than they are with Indian Tamils, things will get better in SL.//

This is indeed the case for Tamils prior to 1983 that used to live out side Jaffna. However, some influential Jaffna Tamils were closer to Indian Tamils for selfish reasons. The same section of people have superiority complex and treated majority of fellow Tamils as low caste or as dirty Tamils. The ongoing war made majority of Tamils to live among Sinhalese for a considerable time now, but there were very little integration due to security problems and mistrust.

Once the war is over, proper integration of all communities will see that they are much closer to each other than they thought prior to the war.

The war will unite them all into one Sri Lankan family. I sincerely hope that I am correct here.

Swarnajith Udana said...

Sorry for the length. Hope that it helps.

I still have a problem with Wijayapala’s identity, but there was never been any doubts in my mind about his stand on the ethnic issue and the war. If he can be considered to be a traitor or an LTTE agent then I could be accused of the same even in a strong sense, but one of you (Rana) knows the people (Sinhalese) I know. When Rana visited Melbourne he could have easily found out about me if he persisted. He had my phone number, my real name and the e-mail address that I use with my friends and associates. If he inquired about me it could have been possible that he would have heard some dissenting views of me. Long time ago I walked out from dinner parties just because my Sinhalese hosts and/or their guests espoused so much offensive racist ideas, such as all Tamils should be killed. I chose not to sign petitions supporting SL Government due to then situation of indiscriminate killing of civilians both Sinhalese and Tamils. During that time that a few (may be very small minority) soldiers on leave terrorising their villages I refused to support the Army. It could have been possible, not likely though, Rana could have got views from them. But I believe that Rana never tried to do that since he trusted me from my open views. I would not have been offended if Rana tried to find out about me since it is so natural and prudent to do so. Blind trust leads to destruction.

Let us compare Wijayapala’s and my views.

(1) We are both against LTTE and he was never a sympathiser of LTTE, but in mistaken belief and principled stand on fairness and justice I was a sympathiser of LTTE. ( I WAS WRONG.)

Once I was threatened by Volunteer army office who happened to be in my staff he would come looking for in the next declaration of emergency and curfew. By the time I was out of country. As foolish as once I was my many relatives believe that I would have been killed during JVP insurgency by the security forces or JVP people. It was so foolish of me to be such confrontational and harsh in my criticism, but I never used filth against anybody whatever the provocation is.

(2) I sympathised with separatism Wijayapala never did. Wijayapala is against separatism and I just do not like it.

Rather than constitutional change what we need is a genuine heart change and respect for one another. Otherwise even If we have separate countries we can fight this war for extinction.

(3) Wijayapala holds a much stronger Sinhalease identity and sentiment than I do. (This was revealed in a private correspondence and it amazed me.)

I began to think of myself as just a world citizen that happen to be born in Sri Lanka and blessed with its rich culture.

(4) Reading Sumanadasa Wijayapala’s reading assuming that Wijayapala here and Sumanadasa Wijayapala are the same person, I know that Wijayapala has much more trust in Mahavansa than I do. Reading him my views have been tilted a little bit towards him.

(5) We both critically not blindly appreciate and admire Anandasagari
(6) We both denounce Nalin de Silva’s views as dangerous.

Prof Nalin was my teacher and he provided me reference letters when I was seeking higher education opportunities in the USA. His criticisms on science and mathematics are fare but he uses these criticisms to espouse a dangerous ideology similar to but not equal to National socialism of Hilter. During the peak of this campaign violence were committed by his followers. These philosophical views of him is related to constructivism for which I am a strong supporter and even stronger proponent (yes life is not that simple. Buddhist duality)

(7) He identifies with Buddhism. Since my high school years I stopped thinking myself as a Buddhist.

Nevertheless I have come to appreciate Buddhist philosophy even in a more stronger sense than when I was a strong Sinhalease racist and Buddhist.

(8) Wijayapala emotionally condemns (in his private conversation with me) brutal colonisation. So do I. but without such emotions.

Nevertheless I believe that neither he nor I thinks that any descendent of these colonial invaders has anything to do with this brutalism unless these descendents directly espouse such praise.

So I believe any one who condemns Wijayapala has much stronger reason to condemn me even in a stronger language.


But remember your evaluation of some one or some thing and how you express your evaluation is an evaluation of yourself even before it becomes a true or false reflection of your evaluated This goes for me very well. That is why I never call somebody a booruwa[donkey] (In a very difficult moment I called my little son a Booruwa. Then I apologised and told him that when I called him booruwa the real booruwa was me not him. He was crossing the road carelessly. I was shaken by the emotions that I could have lsot him. The morale is that we use name calling and filth out of fear, frustration, helplessness and when we are really week.).

I sincerely believe, with all admiration still in intact for Wijayapala, when he called Moshe Dyan Sinhala Modaya then it also goes for me. I am a modya too. In my evaluation I have been a modaya many times I will be modaya many times. Just because Dyan had a different view on Ananda Sangaree if he becomes a modaya then we all are modayas thousand times a day.

I had some glimpse moment that I can admire Dyan or Asithiri(Asithiri defended Rana when people abused his daughters’ names. We are not all saints or evil. We are misguided searching for the right path. We need to help each other. I am no better than you can become or you already are. I am not more evil than you can become or you are. We both have these potentialities with in ourselves.

Wars are not fought without ideology. Ideologies do not arise without some physical foundation. I thank Vajira, Purna, DW, duzz and many other who are doing updates. Foe that kind of news that I began to visit the forum. Still that is my major reason. I want to see this end very soon. Given that it is also important to talk about other aspects. If we do not like we can choose not to read or response to them. I also admire Vajira, Puran and others. They do not try to show “I knew it first” They complement each other for providing information.

Different points of views help us to debate within ourselves and others and to take proper stand. Moshe Dyan’s stand on Sarath N Silva has tilted my ideas toward his ideas. I was just thinking that Sarath was just a traitor. May be he is, may be he is not as Moshe argued.

I am not defending any individual but I am defending myself. That is, I am defending each and every one of your right to express your sincere and genuine (not necessarily correct or right ) ideas.

For any comments on this I will comment only if I think a further clarification is necessary. Any filth language towards me will be automatically returned to the sender even without receiving it. The senders will have to eat their own filth. When I see your faults it gives me a chance to correct mine. Thank you very much for that. Still I am faulty as ever.

Bhairav said...

While our elite cadres are descimated all you people can do is celebrate? This in itself is a low act. You should be weeping with us if as you say tamils are your brothers.

Peter said...

If tigers didnt hold back just so SLA casualties could be minimized then LTTE would still be in control of Mullaiteevu.

That policy is done and dusted now.

Rana said...

Swarnajith,

Sorry, mate. I completely forgot to take your TP number with me to Melbourne. That is why I couldn’t call you. Even, if I managed to call you, it is not for verifying anything about you. I trusted you from the very beginning. I do not want that much to see messengers; I can judge people from what they write. The other reason was, being busy with house hunting for my daughter, each and every day we were visiting open homes and auctions. Even I couldn’t go to a lunch with Mayil Rawana because of an appointment with a real state agent.

The moment you advised me to apologise to Asithri after I lost my control the other day, your exact word “immediate unconditional apology” gave me the complete profile about you and which enough to trust you with my life.

Thanks for your self confessional post too.

Sam Perera said...

Swarnajith Udana,

"I chose not to sign petitions supporting SL Government due to then situation of indiscriminate killing of civilians both Sinhalese and Tamils. During that time that a few (may be very small minority) soldiers on leave terrorising their villages I refused to support the Army."

I just copied a fraction of you blather as an exhibit to display what kind of person you are. Just because of certain actions of "very small minority of soldiers" you have chosen not to support the Army. Cutting to the chase right away, I am glad that buffoons like you are the minority in the Sri Lankan society. We have survived as a nation for 2,500 years since we had brave men and women who fought against invaders. Have we had a few more buffoons like you who think that the people should not support the men and women who are ready to give their lives for our nation’s integrity; we could have been in shambles today. Neither my heart nor my doors are open to absolute buffoons like you. Bogus scum like you shall not have a place in Sri Lanka. Your rightful place is the garbage bins reserved for mindless buffoons who do not appreciate the countless sacrifices of our soldiers.

ravana said...

huh.this time its hilarious..
for me mukahrjee came because karuandhi not happy with menon what he done his visit.on this visit it 's obvious they have asking about the ceasefire.if there is a ceasefire what we achieved is on a brick.
done worry about RAW,hes there until last 26th we have powerful information hes there.he cant move ..but MI knew that raw is for something.i came to update few war matters but the DW change my mind.have to go will catch up you with shortly

Moshe Dyan said...

peter,

"How do you expect tamils to expect to integrate when ethnic cleansing is going on? What's actually happening is tamils are being ethnically cleansed from non liberated areas into safe SLA held areas."

"safe SLA held areas". well, thank you.

i'm against high civilian casualties due to this STUPID haste to caputure everything by feb-04 (which will NOT work). mark my word.

but there is no ethnic cleansing by SLA.

ethnic cleansing means leaving behind one race and destroying the rest. SLA never did that. what they do is to get tamil civilians into safe zones and killing the remaining tamil tigers. it is a kind of cleansing act, no doubt but definitely NOT ethnic cleansing because on either side of the boundary there are tamils.


the genocide claim is same. BS.

IF SLA wants to commit genocide of tamils, why on earth should they endanger themselves by going to vanni????? they can SAFELY start it from wellawatte, mattakuliya, nuwaraeliya, talawakele, maskeliya, jaffna (under SLA control since 1995), batti, vavuniya.

better still, they could have started with tamils in the goverment first, jeyaraj, one SLFP tamil MP from batti, karuna, thonda, chandra, etc., etc.

so there is no intention to create genocide.

look at the % of tamils killed in the war against the total tamil population. it's insignificant. definitely there is no genocide.

wijayapala said...

I had missed this bit of DW's previous article:

"Tigers have now abandoned the bund-warfare strategy in this area and LTTE cadres are fighting hard based on the mistaken belief that they will be massacred by the Army if they surrender. Surrendered or captured cadres claim the cadres are frightened of the Army and have no knowledge of the Army's humanitarian side."

This is a great response to Mushe's dumbass suggestion of massacring Tigers who surrender.

"india wants SL to be under its influence and they will do ANYTHING for that. creating a "region" in SL that dances to the tune of an indian state of tamil nadu is part of the plan."

Mushe is quite wrong about India wanting a part of SL to be subservient to TN. During the IPKF years, the Indian-backed NE Provincil Council answered to Delhi and was actually hostile to Karunanidhi's government in Madras, which was pro-LTTE.

All Indian politics are local- at that time, Karunanidhi's DMK was in the opposition to Rajiv Gandhi, and therefore did all it could to sabotage the Congress government, to the extent of supporting the LTTE's fight against the IPKF.

If the SL Tamils are vulnerable to Indian influence, a bit of that is our own fault for telling them to screw off instead of working with them.

"also they are THE MOST VALUABLE to learn about terrorist warfare."

Mushe is speaking crap here. LTTE terrorism is a bit different from Islamic terrorism, as Kaatikuddupaan had once explained. Thalaivar and Pottu Amman are unlikely to be much help to the Indians.

Anonymous said...

/During that time that a few (may be very small minority) soldiers on leave terrorising their villages I refused to support the Army./

SU

Can you please tell us what kind of "support" you refused to give to the army?

wijayapala said...

Swranajith Udana,

Thanks for your comments.

"Reading Sumanadasa Wijayapala’s reading assuming that Wijayapala here and Sumanadasa Wijayapala are the same person,"

We are the same person.

"(5) We both critically not blindly appreciate and admire Anandasagari"

Correct.

I was not aware that Prof Nalin de Silva was your teacher. He should stick with math and should avoid discussing ethnic relations in SL.

"I sincerely believe, with all admiration still in intact for Wijayapala, when he called Moshe Dyan Sinhala Modaya then it also goes for me."

No, it should go for me and not yourself. I used the term 'modaya' because I felt it was the only way to make my disagreement with Mushe's short-sighted denunciation of Anandasangaree clear. I stopped using the term after the LTTE supporters came and started using it too.

Swarnajith Udana said...

Thank you Rana

Once again I state: any name calling any filth will not be recieved by me. Any evaluation of any thing is itself an evaluation of the evaluator also. That is very true about me too. It shows my richfulness or limitedness and may be both.

Thank you

Swarnajith Udana

Swarnajith Udana said...

Thanks Wijayapala.

Is Wijayapala your pen name or real name? Drop your personal details to my e-mail, please.

Also regardless how you have been treated by others when you know that you have made a mistake you need to do the immediate unconditional apalogy to anybody you have called names. That is how I feel. You can hold me to this principle whenever I make a mistake.

When you do it reflects you.

Thanks!

Ranjiht

Rana said...

Wijayapala,

// I was not aware that Prof Nalin de Silva was your teacher. He should stick with math and should avoid discussing ethnic relations in SL.//

How can I disagree with the above?

Swaranajith,

You may ignore Prof Nalin’s RACIST FOLLOWERS. “KATIN BATHALA KOLA HITAWANA DESHAPREMEEN”

Rajah said...

looks defencewire team had dream ?.

india running proxy war in sri lanka.

Indian commandos on ground, radar station run by Indians. Indian spy satellite and raw's spy plane used in war. Indian news reports saying India send 60 main battle tank on last Monday for final push up. now u have come with new story .

Mohan

wijayapala said...

Jay,

"did you ever wonder why tamils dont talk about error in their ways? All they want to do is kill sinhalese, SLA or otherwise. Look at comments from some of them on here for example. So it makes it very difficult to have sympathy for their cause."

You should go to Sri Lanka and talk with Tamils there. They don't say the same nitwit things like Peter, Mahen, etc. on the internet do.

"Tamils started this "struggle' of theirs in 1983, they struggled struggled and finally struggled out and the struggle is dead iwth a whole heap of them. Just because they keep repeating the '1983 mantra" doesnt make it true."

Unfortunately it is true. If you want to look at violence then you'll have to go all the way back to the 1956 and 58 anti-Tamil riots. We drew first blood; the real surprise is that Tamil militancy didn't begin until 12 later in the 70s.

"They started this and they got smacked and we shouldnt ever apologize for that."

If you can't apologize for the past then you can forget about any sort of political solution or "likable" formula. Addressing simple intangibles like these are far far more important than constitutional reform or even important things like reconstruction. In fact, it is this very refusal to apologize that forms the core of the Tamil perception of what you call "Sinhala hegemony."

From 1977 onward it was increasingly dangerous to be a Tamil in SL. Anti-Tamil violence by govt.-backed thugs, as well as intimidation and the fear of such violence pushed the docile Tamils into militancy. The security forces committed unspeakable atrocities against Tamil civilians in the early years of the war when they were not properly trained or equipped to deal with terrorism themselves.

The truth is that if we had been the minority and not the majority and had been treated like this, we would have done exactly the same thing as the Tamils. If Saul can understand why we distrust India then we should be able to understand why the Tamils distrust us.

That is why I have no compunctions at all about apologizing not only to Bhairav but even to half-wit LTTE bootlickers like Peter for the mistakes that we made and the sufferings that the Tamils have gone through. At least I have that much pride as a Sinhala and a Buddhist. I don't expect them to reflect on their own mistakes- it's for them to decide whether they have that much brains and b@lls to come to terms and move forward.

Rajah said...

Hello moshe,

"IF SLA wants to commit genocide of tamils, why on earth should they endanger themselves by going to vanni????? they can SAFELY start it from wellawatte, mattakuliya, nuwaraeliya, talawakele, maskeliya, jaffna (under SLA control since 1995), batti, vavuniya."

from wellawatte, mattakuliya, nuwaraeliya, talawakele to maskeliya - less chance of get killed. as long as you pay the police and white van we have good change of having good life.

jaffna batti, vavuniya - usually no blind shelling. people take some risk to get access to food and utility.here also they have to white van and police army.

Vanni - was very safe for long priod of time, exept occasional air ride. but now become cannon folder.

ask your self why 450,000 people decided to stay with ltte ?



mohan

Sam Perera said...

Jet the LTTE terrorist is back under the name vanni tamil. Perhaps, this was the missing jet TamilNut reported.

priyashantha said...

This Ranjith aka Swinejith Uranna came in another name.

It was Ass-imbeema Saha Dekkeema.

Another lunatic with the double profile syndrome.

Why do these suckers, arse lickers and Sereppu Supas have to come to a defence blog and crap?

Sam Perera said...

priyashantha,

I have rarely met a breed akin to SU, Monkeypala, RC, Pansilu Amman in SL. It seems that the 4th international is still expecting the world revolution like those religious nuts called witnesses.

priyashantha said...

Sam,

Remember Echolaliya who was discussing crap with Wijaya-Hapala (mage payya)?

That was Wijaya-Hapala himself trying to be important. When exposed he quickly vanished. (He may come back any time.)

These set of jokers are a few lunaitcs. Anyone can create a name and no IP address can be traced.

You and I can catch them easily. They cannot discuss anything in defence. Too dumb for that. Far too dumberer that they cannot hide their true colours.

I have a very strong feeling that Mithra Fernando is Sumanakka Wijaya-Hapala.

Pansilu said...

Sammy the Joker,

// I have rarely met a breed akin to SU, Monkeypala, RC, Pansilu Amman in SL. It seems that the 4th international is still expecting the world revolution like those religious nuts called witnesses.//

Agreed!

If people like SU, Wijayapala, RC and me were more common in SL, at least during last 50 years, SL could have avoided this conflict completely. Unfortunately racists like you and Appriyashantha with narrow tunnel vision and fond of playing for cheap patriotic gallery were more common in SL and made us all suffer during last so many years.

It is true, even today, therefore SL will have tremendous problem of eradicating racism even after the war.

Swarnajith Udana said...

Sam:

As a respond I can only tell you that I appreciate your stand against LTTE, so we both expect utter destruction of LTTE. I am not a Marxist, but once I was.

I denounce Marxism as a form of theology itself. I am not going to give my reasoning here because it takes a long article.

I am Swarnajith Udana for this forum and I signed a part of my real name by mistake. Rana knows this. Any thank you for showing me my mistake. I believe that you will be next kind enough to advise me do not be foolish enough to sign in my name in this formu. Thanks in advance.

This is an example how people jump to conclusions without giving any efforet to understand what one says.

I came and responded to say that just because yuo call me a Markxist or LTTE Agent I would not become one. Our evaluations only reflect limitedness or richfulness of our minds even before our evaluation becomes some thing relevant to what is being evaluated.

Thanks Sam !

Keep figinting against LTTE propaganda and but try to be thougtful. Namaskaram on your passion against LTTE, but be careful. With that passion (that is good) you might harm your friends too. I know that you do not want that.

Swarnajith Udana (You know part of my name though it ws wrongly spelled.)

I think this will answer all your future comments too.

keep up good wok sort out the bad.

priyashantha said...

Mohan the terrorist,

You live in Colombo, don't ya?

Why did you leave your beloved LTTE and come to Colombo?

Moshe Dyan said...

sam,

mate, mohan was NOT a terrorist. may be on the fence, now.


mohan,

450k is an exaggeration. that number cannot be more than 150k.

1. most of them were forced into it.

2. if given a freehand to go wherever during the war would come to colombo like half a million did.

3. there are mahaveer families who depend on handouts from the LTTE. they have no option than stay with the LTTE.

4. crossing over is dangerous business. LTTE will shoot if observed, may become targets of the crossfire, landmines may kill them, etc., etc.

"from wellawatte, mattakuliya, nuwaraeliya, talawakele to maskeliya - less chance of get killed. as long as you pay the police and white van we have good change of having good life.

jaffna batti, vavuniya - usually no blind shelling. people take some risk to get access to food and utility.here also they have to white van and police army."

so that's what i say. IF SLDFs wanted to do genocide, they could have EASILY started here. only about a million rounds of bullets needed which costs a fraction of the defence budget. but that will never happen bcos we don't want genocide.

if we commit genocide, we fall into the same LOW level of the LTTE who did a COMPLETE DOUBLE GENOCIDE in the north.

Sam Perera said...

Priyashantha,

"I have a very strong feeling that Mithra Fernando is Sumanakka Wijaya-Hapala."

Very interesting. This is very likely scenario. He is said to be a protege of Brian Seneviratne (a man with dementia). Mithra Fernando in the scum of Sri Lanka list. You can find his other information here.

Pansilu said...

Moshe Dayan to Mohan,

Well said!

Sam Perera said...

SU aka Ranjith,

I have met enough people like you in my life. I highlighted in my previous post about a few things you want to mask under the sheep clothing. Your fake preaching doesn't work with me. Please take your sheep clothing away.

Pansilu said...

Sammy,

Brian Seneviratne and Mithra Fernando is very similar to you and Appriyashantha but only on the opposite extreme.

Swarnajith Udana said...

SAM

You really blow me out my cover.

How bad I feel!

But, if you really know me, but how can you? It may be impossible. Good luck.

Amma Gahai/Gahawi said...

G’Day Boys, You guys are way off with VP thing. VP is safe and I met him over the weekend here in Melbourne with his ex. second in charge Pottu and current second in charge Pakayalan Master? Doing shopping in Chadstone shopping centre sipping a mango lassy.

I could not ignore them and said:

AG: G’Day!
Praba: Wanakkam
AG: wanakkam wanakkam! How r u ? U must be Praba?
Praba: fcuk u!what? Who? Wrong man, I am Peter
AG: fcuk u too!so this is Pottu?
Pottu: Fcuk no, I am Peter
AG: Ahhh fcuk me, u then, Pakayalan Master?
P Master: No man, I am Peter
Ag: Ohh kool, when did u guys jump to Melbourne?
Peter: We came to Malaysia and then Qantas to Melbourne
AG: So, who is in the front fighting?
Peter: what? Who fights? Ha ha ha anyway, u want us to remember all the names?
AG: Y eh, I know! Anyway, who is in the back holding all together?
Peter: Fcuking Nadesan! Ha ha ha

AG: ha ha … so what do u up to?
Peter: Peter to Peter and peter to AG….Do u know a good place for humping?
AG: Hunting? Yeh, we can shoot a Roo!
Peter: No no humping, bonk..u know bling bling…ahh s@x
AG: oh yeh mate, but vey hard to fix u guys with chicks boys. What’s up with Bata slippers and Kaki Pants and Bristle in upper lips? Smell like stinky poo too!
Peter: yeh, very easy to say to u brother…anyway, we can pay..we got $$$$
AG: kool, how much?
Peter: we don’t know! I got this card from mmmhhh P. Thambaiya and unlimited funds ha ha ha clown!
AG: Cheap or Expensive?
Peter: Best joint buddy, best joint!
AG: No prob, 1 h ???
Peter: ha ha ha young boy! U know , we old and diabetes and all…1/2h more than enough! With wife, it only takes 8 minutes! Ha ha ha

AG: kool! That will be 240 x 3 = 720 u got enough!
Peter: Yeh brother! U take ½ h too , we can pay
AG: Thanks but no thanks! I am vegetarian these days! No Gonnu for me buddy!
Peter: I kill u! u must hump one too!
AG: ha ha ha u can not even kill ur self u puffta!
Peter: Yeh, sorry buddy! Old habits no!
Peter: Peter to Peter to Peter to AG..can u get one Trani?
AG: who wants to pay a granny money man?
Peter: no no, no granny, trani! Boss like bit kinky u know?
AG: Do what ever u want. Don’t sit next to me ok?
AG: So, u guys want to cramp in to my car? Fatty can sit in front and u two in the back?
Peter: no no, we got a limousine waiting! Ha ha ha clowns pay for that!

- Oye.. Ojaye… Oye….Ojaye…

AG: Sinhala song ha?
Peter: fcuk u! it is an indigenous song
AG: yeh, true! I like it! Do u like Lunu Dehi too?
Peter: yeh man, fcuking classic!
AG: I know another song about an indigenous girl sang by Sunil Edirisinghe
Peter: yeh, what is that?
AG: “Aetha sitan enii Selli selliye, meatha sitan enni Selli selliye”
Peter: Oh, I know that, this is about this Indigenous chick with big boobs like Chandrika ha? Aetha indan than deka shelavi shelavi ennawa! Nice! #whistle#
AG: No dim-bat, it was about this Selli….
Peter: Chelva? Babar? Ha ha ha fcuking babar attained nibbana! Ha ha ha

Peter: Three cheers for the barber!
-Hip hip hooray x 3-

CASC said...

Lets not forget we are in the backyard of a great power. All great powers regardless of where they are located are intent on destabilizing their neighbors as a means of indirect control. It is not that India sympathizes with the LTTE. They simply prefer to keep the status quo where each side is in a state of dependence on India.

They helped the LTTE by sanctioning and supporting the Norwegians and by turning a blind eye to the large scale smuggling activities originating from Tamil Nadu. They helped the Sri Lanka Govt by providing military assets like the SLNS Sayura.

In 2000 when the Hon. Lakshman Kadiragamar went to seek Indian assistance after the collapse of the Elephant Pass Army camp, India very graciously offered to evacuate the Sri Lanka Army garrison from the Jaffna peninsular.


DBS Jeyraj points out the fallacy of eelam in his article "The LTTE at 32." He says even if an eelam was achieved it would have been immediately annexed by India or made an Indian protectorate. The Indian government was naturally quite upset by the Supreme court decision that de-linked the North and Eastern province.

India's experiment in dismembering Sri Lanka began around the same time that India was engaged in destroying Nepal, a landlocked country dependent on trade with India (Nepal has the legal status of being an Indian protectorate, so India claims it is ultimately responsible for Nepal's defence and foreign policy). Eventually about 60% of Nepla's countryside of Nepal was controlled by Indian- supported so called Maoist guerillas who had nothing to with Mao or China (ironically China supported the King). Two years ago the King of Nepal had to sue for peace and a group of student leaders who had lived and studied in India took over. India would have been very comfortable with a stooge like Ranil in power but it seems Mahinda is his own man and can't be bought off for any price by anyone.

Puran Appu said...

Sad story guys.

LTTE killed around 30 Civilians yesterday, and many wounded when they tried to entre the government controlled areas.

UN and ICRC fears that, around 300 civilians will be dead if not treated. LTTE prevented the UN and ICRC from transferring them.

Tamil Diaspora who funded the LTTE, Is this what you all wanted from the LTTE?

Swarnajith Udana said...

Any army may have a few people of bad discipline. When it is overlooked by the authorities it beocmes the mode of operation.

Now the situation has changed. Soldiers behave decnelty and bravely.

That is because, as I heard, Sarath Fonseka expect the best behaiour from soldiers.

I could become a door-mat (at least im my mind)for
a good soldier (Well-disciplined)
who put his life in life for his people vluntarily.

Swarnajith Udana said...

correction:

who puts his life in line

wijayapala said...

Here's a question for Sammy and Priya who are hurling their usual crap at Swranajith Udana:

If you two are such great Sinhala patriots, why were you deafeningly silent with Mithra Fernando was rubbishing the Mahavamsa on Asian Tribune?????

Anonymous said...

/If you two are such great Sinhala patriots, why were you deafeningly silent with Mithra Fernando was rubbishing the Mahavamsa on Asian Tribune?????/

Wijayapala

Well, you asked this from SamP and PS but let me add this.

It is surprising you asked so. How come any one who is not a history expert can answer to him? It is simply not possible.

Anonymous said...

SU

I asked you a question and may be you missed it. So let me ask again.. as I like to see the answer..

/During that time that a few (may be very small minority) soldiers on leave terrorising their villages I refused to support the Army./

Can you please tell us what kind of "support" you refused to give to the army?

Puran Appu said...

It was a special team which entered Mullaitivu town first.

Pansilu said...

Ninja,

Since you have answered on behalf of Sammy and Appiriya, I do the same on behalf of Swarnajith:

He didn’t do what you and most of others are doing, being “only a key board supporter”.

Swarnajith Udana said...

Thank you very mcuh Ninja for being kind enough to ask the question again assuming that I might have missed it. That was what really happened.

I am really grateful. Thank you also for giving me an opportunity to explain.

I just refused to condone the acts.
I said that as the pettition higlighted the crimes of LTTE
it should contain a sentence to the effect "we also implore the Sri Lankan
government to take every care possible to minimise harm coming to civilians, may it be Tamils or Sinhalease or Muslims.

They did not agree to put this in their pettition. I did not sign it.

Things like that.

Now I have begun to sign the pettitions but still I read it very carfully to see that it is compatible with my stand point. They do so I sign.

Thank you Ninja

Swarnajith Udana

PS

I do not blame or get hurt when people accuse me of what I am not.

It simply shows me that what a cancer is this LTTE.

Think about BABU. He was able to decieve Premadasa and his security agents.

I do not mind people being doubtful, but they need to really be careful otherwise they may end up accusin innocent people. This remind me Witchhunt in Britan.

This may also could from a LTTE agnet, couldn't it?

I took a risk when I contacted Rana with my real information. It took him by surprise. He returned me the same trust. We need to have doubt and we need to have trust. I know if I do not trust a persoon that I should later when I realised my mistake, it only hurts me. I do not wish anybody that pain.

Swarnajith Udana

Rana said...

Puran Appu,

Great article! Thanks, bro.

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Anonymous said...

Pansilu

I didn't answer on behalf of any one. SamP or PS can give their own answer. I just asked an obvious question from Wijayapala. (You should realize this if you read what I wrote carefully.)

I can't understand how you can answer on behalf of SU. (specially, for that question.. since it was probably a decision made by SU alone.)

When I once kindly said you to 'read all your writing here from the very beginning and see a psychiatric' I was serious.

Jay said...

"wijayapala said...
You should go to Sri Lanka and talk with Tamils there. They don't say the same nitwit things like Peter, Mahen, etc. on the internet do."

wijayapala,
I've lived most of my life in SL and I have talked with many tamils, some of whom in fact were my frinds. Generally speaking a tamil living in SL wont dare speak of their true hidden agenda while in SL surrounded by majority sinhalese. Why do you think as soon as they move out of SL they become activist for peelam cause? This is not to say there arent peaceful tamils who are happy to live out their life in peace and quiet. But do not make the mistake of putting all tamils into this one basket, big mistake.


"If you want to look at violence then you'll have to go all the way back to the 1956 and 58 anti-Tamil riots."

Why not go back all the way to time of king Elara and Dutugamunu?
The fact of the matter is we have to know what's relevant and applicable to todays generation. VP was 2 years old in 1956 and most of other tamil terrorist leaders were not even born back then, not to mention all cadres fighting now. So lets not be silly enough to drag this out into beginning of time.
wijayapala, I can see you have sympathy for tamils, mate that's okay but remember there's a time to be strong and resolute. Isnt it because of the backboneless-ness and the weakness of people of your time that so many sons of our mothers paying with their lives today?
Wijayapala mate you had your time back in the day, this is my time now and my generation has learnt something from history and we will NOT repeat mistakes of your generation, we will not be weak, we will not be a push over, and we certainly will not make the backboneless mistakes you have make in your generation so my children will have to pay with their lives to fix the legecy that I'd be leaving behind.

"If you can't apologize for the past then you can forget about any sort of political solution or "likable" formula. Addressing simple intangibles like these are far far more important than constitutional reform or even important things like reconstruction."

So we should apologize for their terrorist activities now? What message do you think it would send to the future generations? This is what they will hear - if you're not happy with anything at all start blowing things up until they will fall in line, apologize and bow down to demands.
This is exactly the kind of weak weak policies of weak men that got us into this mess. Wijayapala, with all do respect mate you're time has come to pass. Read a book, knit a few sweaters, bake a few cookies and die in peace please.

Anonymous said...

SU

Thanks for the clarification. I know some times people sign petitions even with out reading it. If you don't agree you don't sign - nothing wrong. I don't know about that petition you mentioned but any way no further questions.. no big deal.

Pansilu said...

All right: Mahadena Muttha from USA, hiding in American luxury, worshipping stars and stripes advocating Sri Lankans what to do.

What sort of a patriot is this, after getting free education from SL serving Yankees for green backs?

I would like ask him first to come back to your “JANMA BHOOMI” then start advising about 500,000+ SLA and unitary state etc etc.

“ME GOLLO THAMAI PITA RATA INDAGENA KATIN BATHALA HITAWALA KAPALLA KIYANNE RATE INNA MINISSUNTA.

Ananda-USA said...

Patriots,

I have been reading the latest crop of misguided humanists advocating the same follies that put Sri Lanka in mortal jeopardy in the recent past. A new "misguided humanists club" has emerged for this very purpose, some even acknowledging to have been "former LTTE supporters", but not now, we are happily informed!

These are the same people who had accepted or advocated the partition of Sri Lanka in the interest of "peaceful co-existence", without fighting back with every ounce of strength that we can summon to prevent it.

These are the same people who confused our citizenry into believing the pretextual accusations of "intolerable discrimination" leveled against the Sinhala majority; accusations designed to undermine our belief in the justice of our cause and the determination not to accept a divided country.

These are the same people who had no solution to our problems except to sit on the sidelines wringing their hands in hypocritical sorrow, while aiding and abetting the destruction of our country with their divisive discouraging pronouncements.

These are the same people, now that a few brave leaders have taken up the challenge of unifying the country, and brilliantly succeeding in its defense, who are re-emerging from hiding to tell us that we should dance to the same discredited tunes they sang in the past.

Sri Lanka should never again be allowed to fall victim to the arguments of these people who will neither recognize, nor acknowledge, the errors of their ways, their failure to defend this country and all of our people. Yet presume they know what we should now do to protect it in the future.

We should now instinctively recognize the subtle destructive arguments offered by acknowledged LTTE supporters, and their more-dangerous witting and unwitting Sinhala collaborators, for who they really are, and reject them in full.

Sri Lanka must be fair to all of its people; this can be achieved by enforcing equal rights and equal responsibilities, yielding NO MORE, nor witholding ANY LESS, without any devolution of power to ethnic regions.

FAIRNESS implies EQUALITY...no community should expect to be granted MORE, or expect to receive LESS. All of Sri Lanka belongs to all of its people, irrespective of ethnicity, religion, language or caste. Let us actively put that concept into practice. Let us move now to DISMANTLE ALL FORMS OF DEVOLUTION OF POWER to Provincial Councils on ethnic, religious, linguistic or caste bases, and eliminate all administrative units sufficiently large to undermine and challenge the national government.

We should quickly move to ethnically integrate the country and demolish the very foundation for separatist demands. If India presumes to oppose us on this, we should firmly say "No Thanks", for you are not qualified to advise us! In support of declining their advice, we should point out the complete chaos prevalent in their country, the low-level of social equity in India compared to our own, and request they get back to us if they need any advice from us in solving their problems.

frackster said...

To all diassassssporra !!!

pls tell this to tamilnut and any other..since of late, there has been a "flag Genocide" by the SLA !!! yes a "flag Genocide"" ...... no longer do u see the LLTE flag in SL( unless otherwise under the boot of a soldier)......

:)

owing to this genocide, the LLTE flag has gone extinct in SL and now can only been seen in Europe where the diasssssspooora live....

i think u guys missed this !! pls do tell the world about it

Saul said...

Wijaypala

For example, a lot of us believe that north and south Indians don't get along and that N. Indians will be natural allies of SL or the Sinhalese, because of Indo-Aryan linguistic similarities or similar bullsh!t like that. We don't understand that while politics in India might be all local, the Indians tend to come together regarding their strategic interests.

Correct. The differences in India culture are often exaggerated. As you very perceptively remarked,

A north Indian essentially is closer to a southie than he is with any other person in the world.

I do not want to write one long post, so am splitting my comments into 2 or 3 posts. Next one will be on the Tamil identity in India. Hope that perspective helps.

Saul said...

Wijaypala

Part 1: Chennai, or any part of Tamil Nadu that I have been to in the past, is 'different' from most of India. I'll start by saying that when I was traveling there, I was as much as a disadvantage as you would be or a Caucasian American!

Because- if you do not know Tamil in TN, then gawd help you because they sure as heck cannot/ will not speak our national language, Hindi!

Now having said that, the contribution of Tamil Nadu to the Indian identity, from the perspective of culture, arts, administration, architecture (those temples!), dance, cuisine, has been second to none, and better than most.

Pansilu said...

Ninja,

Why don’t you ask Ananda-USA to see a psychiatrist since he is the one who is writing pages and pages of obvious crap and posting it twice! Perhaps you fear an attack from fellow patriots. Ha ha ha

wijayapala said...

Ninja,

"How come any one who is not a history expert can answer to him? It is simply not possible."

In that case let me ask another question- how could anyone claim to be a "patriotic Sinhela" without knowing even basic history to refute rubbish written on the Mahavamsa??? Sammy can blather on about Sinhalese resisting S. Indian invasions but he can't take on one guy trashing Sinhala history?????

This comes back to my basic question- is it possible for a dumbass to be a patriot? To actually DO anything positive for SL?

priyashantha said...

Wijaya-Hapala said,

If you two are such great Sinhala patriots, why were you deafeningly silent with Mithra Fernando was rubbishing the Mahavamsa on Asian Tribune?????

We are not Sinhala patriots. We are Sri Lankan patriots who are Sinhala.

Mithra Fernando or any other motherfcuker cannot rubbish the Mahavansa. It is an establisehd chronicle of Sri Lankan history. No one can rubbish that. Mithra was only showing his ignorance if he tried to do that.

Who is Mithra Fernando? No one knows. An unknown dumbfuck probably coming in a pseudoname talking crap about the Mahavansa. Why should we care? Nothing happens to the Mahavansa and nothing changed in its credibility.

By responding to that type of dumbfucks talking bullcrap they get importance.

If Venerable Ellawala Medhananda Thero made such a statement then it is a different thing.

Tamils like Ananda Kumaraswamy got impressed with the Mahavansa. Those are real Sri Lankans. If we had bit more consideration for Tamils in 1983 things would be different. Then there will be more people like that.

Wije, don't worry about our Mahavansa. We believe it. No one can rubbish that. We don't need Mithra to come in another name to save the Mahavansa.

"Ballo biruwata kandu pahath wenne nehe."

"Burapang ballo burapang."

Ananda-USA said...

Moshe Dayan said..



territorial intergrity of the nation is too precious to depend upon hearts and minds of volatile ppl living in a historically volatile region.


Couldn't agree more with you!

Bhairav said...

If LTTE is a terrorist group then why do you think 450,000 decided not to leave LTTE controlled areas into SLA controlled safe territories?

Because all of their needs are met. Talk in tamil, follow tamil culture, celebrate tamil festivals, post a letter, watch tv, listen to tamil radio, serve LTTE army. Could any of these be done in SLA controlled areas?

Pansilu said...

Bhairav,

You mean other Tamils in south don't do all that?

priyashantha said...

Bahisrav,


Talk in tamil - Can
follow tamil culture - Can
celebrate tamil festivals - Can
post a letter - Can
watch tv - Can
listen to tamil radio - Can
serve LTTE army - Cannot but they can serve Sri Lanka army with salary, shoes, holidays, no need to arse lick VP

What a dumbfuck you are. They can do everything.

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priyashantha said...

Wijaya-Hapala,

If you want to discuss history go to Asian Tribune. This is a defence blog.

"Pissu da?"

Bhairav said...

[Pansilu said...
Bhairav,
You mean other Tamils in south don't do all that?]


no madaya
In south india they do but they dont in SL. Sometimes explaining things to you lot is just so annoying

Sam Perera said...

Pansilu Amman,

How do you know that Ananda is in USA? That is very funny. Furthermore, how do you know that the people here has not done anything for Sri Lanka and our forces? Did the little birdie tell you that or is that you wild imagination. As Ninja says, you most certainly need to see a mental doctor. If you time it you should be carpool with Wijayapala Master to the daily mental clinic.

Saul said...

Wijaypala

Part II: The Tamil are- culturally, artistically, from a literary perspective, from the contributions they have made to India - a magnificent people. More recently, Tamils lead in many walks of life in India- administration, science, armed forces*, etc. In fact, if you come from a particular group in TN, you are expected to be academically outstanding.

Now the flip side: Tamilians are also - by their culture, language, etc - 'different' from the rest of us. They have a unique pride, an identity within India. BTW, I wish to make clear that I see no possibility of separatism.

(BTW, Tamil politics is perhaps one of the dirtiest, even given how dirty Indian politics is. Use of vulgarities, crude epithets even by state level leaders is not uncommon).

What that cultural, adds up to, strictly IMO, is that Tamils feel a sub cultural empathy for other Tamils even more than most people. And that empathy reflects in any support that TN politicians (who like politicians anywhere in the world are quick to rabble rouse) have shown for the LTTE.

But does this support for LTTE have any teeth? As I said previously, not likely IMO. I doubt if, regardless of the empathy, the TN population is going to take to the streets in defence of their 'LTTE brethren'. But yeah, there will be local concern for the civilians.

* Just a little titbit of history: Interestingly - ironically - Major Ramaswamy Parameswaran, a famous and posthumous winner of the Param Vira Chakra, India's highest award for valour (Like your Parama Weera Vibhushanaya), got the medal while fighting the LTTE in Sri Lanka.

He was a Tamil.

Bhairav said...

[territorial intergrity of the nation is too precious to depend upon hearts and minds of volatile ppl]

Eezham democracy was way more stable than sinhalese government. We've only had 1 leader for past 30 years how many have you had?
Need I say more about stability?

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wijayapala said...

Jay,

"Generally speaking a tamil living in SL wont dare speak of their true hidden agenda while in SL surrounded by majority sinhalese."

Then you should go to Vavuniya or Batticaloa where you're the minority and they are the majority, to hear their views.

"Why do you think as soon as they move out of SL they become activist for peelam cause?"

The bulk of the expatriate Tamils left after the 1983 riots and that was their last memory of SL. But again, the trend of emigration began after things began to get difficult from 1977 onward.

"But do not make the mistake of putting all tamils into this one basket, big mistake."

You should listen to your own words.

"The fact of the matter is we have to know what's relevant and applicable to todays generation."

What happened in 1956 and 1958 is far more relevant than the Dutugemunu Elara war because it remained in modern memory. Prabakaran was only 4 years old during the 1958 violence, but it was the topic of discussion among the Tamils in later years.

Even then, Tamil militancy in the 1970s was next to nothing. The LTTE only had 30 members up until the 1983 riots, after which its numbers exploded into the 1000s. It is only after that point when things got out of control.

"wijayapala, I can see you have sympathy for tamils, mate that's okay but remember there's a time to be strong and resolute."

How does an apology make one less than resolute???? How difficult is it to simply say, "I am against Tamil separatism, terrorism, and the concept of an exclusive Tamil homeland, but the Sri Lankan Tamils as a people did not deserve to suffer as they did over the last 30 years"????

Apologizing will not change the reality that the LTTE and Tamil Eelam is defeated. Not apologizing will reinforce in the Tamils' minds that they will never be safe in the long run among the Sinhalese, and we will always have to be terrified and paranoid regarding the possibility of the separatists making a comeback (far from being "strong and resolute").
"Wijayapala mate you had your time back in the day, this is my time now and my generation has learnt something from history and we will NOT repeat mistakes of your generation,"

The mistakes of the previous generation was looking the other way when injustice took place. That is how we got this war. If you learned that lesson and acknowledge that mistake of your predecessors, then there is nothing to worry about.

Bhairav said...

priyasantha,

You have just emerged as cyber terrorist by going into personal details of bloggers and threatening their family members, for example, you called someone whom you thought WP. If you are in US, it won't be too long before you behind the bars.

What I see from you is typical lankan attitude. Unfortunately you do not know what is charter of rights, especially when you live in SL, it would be even harder for you.

Comment is free after all.

ReallyCold..... said...

Wije/Rana/Soul

// Maybe when we realize that we are closest with our SL Tamils, and when the SL Tamils realize they are closer to us than they are with Indian Tamils, things will get better in SL.//

I had so many Tamil friends and I felt a natural connection and common interest among us. The war destroyed such friendships.

I also realized that the blood is thinner between SL and TN Tamils. I had friends from each community and they weren't as friendly with themselves even though they had a common culture.

An average Tamil likely to have a free connection with a Sinhalese since the Sinhalese don't really care about the caste the Tamil belongs to.

It is ironic the short sighted people destroyed the Sinhala Tamil harmony.

Unknown said...

testing

NOLTTE=Peace said...

Guys.. Watch this video and listen to this carefully, it exposes LTTE.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzvmqoAR0zE

An Artillery Guns fires from very close by.

That means, LTTE has located artillery into the Safe Zone as the GOSL claimed.

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priyashantha said...

senthan said...

priyasantha,

You have just emerged as cyber terrorist by going into personal details of bloggers and threatening their family members, for example, you called someone whom you thought WP. If you are in US, it won't be too long before you behind the bars.

What I see from you is typical lankan attitude. Unfortunately you do not know what is charter of rights, especially when you live in SL, it would be even harder for you.

Comment is free after all.

January 28, 2009 9:00 AM


Bhairav said...

priyasantha,

You have just emerged as cyber terrorist by going into personal details of bloggers and threatening their family members, for example, you called someone whom you thought WP. If you are in US, it won't be too long before you behind the bars.

What I see from you is typical lankan attitude. Unfortunately you do not know what is charter of rights, especially when you live in SL, it would be even harder for you.

Comment is free after all.

January 28, 2009 9:02 AM


Senthan sakkiliya = Bahisrav sakkiliya.

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wijayapala said...

Saul, some quick questions

"Now the flip side: Tamilians are also - by their culture, language, etc - 'different' from the rest of us. They have a unique pride, an identity within India."

Aren't the Bengalis the same way?

"(BTW, Tamil politics is perhaps one of the dirtiest, even given how dirty Indian politics is. Use of vulgarities, crude epithets even by state level leaders is not uncommon)."

Really? I had heard that N. Indians considered the Tamils to be relatively sober and reliable, although some of the stuff that had transpired in Madras is amazing (like the assault against JJ in the legislature, or when an MLA opened his vetti without underwear when a female opposition member said that he was not a man).

It's an interesting contrast to SL Tamil politics, which before the war was dominated by lawyer types who avoided filthy language (while espousing dangerous ideas, nevertheless).

wijayapala said...

Pansilu,

Beware of fake Bhairav 03703042476739938814. He had fooled me too and I deleted my previous responses to him.

ReallyCold..... said...

wijayapala

Reading your last response to jay, it is clear that you have a compassionate view towards the plight of Tamils.

The world we are living now don't appreciate such views.

There is an intellectual connection between compassionate minds. However you may not find counterparts from the Tamil society.

It is possible when they build the fence around Eelam, they will use people like you as a post.

Some of the people we are dealing with are ruthless.

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priyashantha said...

Wijaya-Hapala,

Your antics with Mithra Fernando are like your discussion with Echolalia. This is called masterbation.

Reminds me the same dumb technique used by school boys to impress girls. If a boy wants to impress a girl, he will talk to his friends and agree to a plan. Friends will go and make cat calls to the girl and try to steal something from her. Then the guy will come and handle the situation and look like a hero.

If the girl is as dumb as the guy she will fall for it.

In both cases there is no threat. Wijaya-Hapala try to say that there was a threat to Mahavansa and he saved it.

My arrse!

Unknown said...

Puran,

Second one is from Lakbima Wednesday(28th, 2row) news paper with heading Muhude Gatum Mada Praba Pana giyeda?

I think Lakbima is correct not DW.

I don,t believe RAW story also much. May be they use their aeroplanes to search the norther war front.
Whatever, publishing this story put our national security more riskier than not publishing our own stories. There is a story about not publishing dvora story here. Its nothing to with national security.Its personal.Will wait till war finishes and we may get the right story.

Rana,

I agree with you.What political solution they want.Let inferiority complexed tamils to have their own authority in some wherelse in the world but mot in SL.We should live as srilankans. For everybody must have equal rights.Thats called national intergrety.As somebody said this PC system forcibly applied in SL must be demolished.Its waste of public money. Nothing is happening.RW ponnaya should keep away from becoming leader of our country.This gay bastard will do anything to lick white cocks.

I don't think RAW is dare to do the same mistake again.But i may be wrong.We don't know this powerful interligence service's hidden agenda.But now adays all this divided and control system is failling all over the world.
I feel best thing to control this problem is to show india we respect your concern about national security,but let not interfere with SL intenal affairs.Every time they try to do that we should take China and Pakistan closer to us.May be some of our bloggers may have more valuable ideas about thi matter.

priyashantha said...

Defencewire,

I respectfully disbelief your story.

RAW is after Rajiv's killers than protect them. I may be wrong.

Jay said...

wijayapala,
"What happened in 1956 and 1958 is far more relevant than the Dutugemunu Elara war because it remained in modern memory."

I'd ask you to get another definition for "modern"
something that's not from the last century or from prehistoric times.


"The LTTE only had 30 members up until the 1983 riots, after which its numbers exploded into the 1000s. It is only after that point when things got out of control."

Their milltancy has been growing since 1970's and has culminated and waiting to explode by 1983. They were waiting for a trigger, anything at all. Nothing was there so they created one by killing 13 of our officers in cold blood. So 1983 wasnt the cause, it was a mare trigger. THEY started this, if it wasnt 1983 incidents it would have been 1984 or 1985.

"Sri Lankan Tamils as a people did not deserve to suffer as they did over the last 30 years"

you forgot to complete above sentence by adding "suffered because of their terrorist and cold blooded mindset"

Isnt that funny now you yourself are talking about suffering during the "past 30 years," exactly the period when tamils were involved in terrorism? I would ask you to get off the high chair and take a look at your own crumbling arguments.

Good luck wijayapala, first I though you were an intelligent person who had a little sympathy for tamils which is perfectly fine. Congrats you've proved me wrong. Being weak and being not very smart is a lethal combination. No offense intended. bye bye.

abc said...
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Bhairav said...

[I respectfully disbelief your story.

RAW is after Rajiv's killers than protect them. I may be wrong.]

Priyasantha,

You hardly provide any constructive arguments here except being an online bully. Oops..you seemed to love MCQ(multiple choice questions) as you only disagree with DW's stand :)

cheers---

Calvin said...

“The Colombians (By Gomin Dayasri) ”

This was a nice article, and when I was reading through this, I felt how true some of his comments are. I personally battle through some vague arguments, between many “friends” regarding, why we should vote for MR in 2006.
And all my believes/thoughts became a reality at this very moment, and I have no regrate so far.

My favourite part of this article was;


It is their style to be different to mortals whom they consider less. If others were cheering with the forces reaching Killinochchi; instinct made them pick holes in a victory achieved with lives lost to defeat terrorism. Who ever did it, torching a TV station was breaking news not the taking of Pooneryn or Paranthan. They cheered for Colombo not for Sri Lanka. Without the LTTE they have to search for another effective force to destabilize the government with an opposition stupid; like the redundant war correspondent who has to find an isolated battlefield rather than go home without a war. Even the terrorists are better than a government they voted against. To keep the LTTE alive was a live factor to destabilize the government they hate- the psyche and hype of the Colombians. Instead of the four letter initials of the local terrorists if the name was Hamas or Hezebulla or Al Queida detested by the West possibly the equation may have changed.

:)

Unknown said...

[We will keep on fighting for a federal solution with or without VP. In the absence of one we would fight with all our might for full integration settlement.
Nothing less would ever be satisfactory for tamils.]

you bitches never learn eh!!!
keep on fighting for unfair, unrealistic goals like you always have...
as the past "fights" have shown you lot will achieve a lot

Ananda-USA said...

Detailed Video of Mullaitivu after Capture

Bhairav said...
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Anonymous said...

Wijayapala

You surprised me again. Anyway let me explain.

/In that case let me ask another question- how could anyone claim to be a "patriotic Sinhela" without knowing even basic history to refute rubbish written on the Mahavamsa???/

Basic history one knows may not be enough to counter arguments from an opponent in a sound way. That's why some one has expertise on history should do that job.

In fact, when it comes to history and if you are interested in truth what matters is your knowledge, fact, evidence you have - being a patriot may be irrelevant; probably, a patriotic one will spend time on such an issue.

I am not sure about your definition about 'patriot' but if you include history knowledge as a pre-condition to be a patriot I guess you can easily remove large portion of SLA from patriots, ofcourse depending on your standard for basic history.

/This comes back to my basic question- is it possible for a dumbass to be a patriot? To actually DO anything positive for SL?/

I am not sure what you really mean by bumbass here - if you mean uneducated or a dumb but still good people are included I think answer is yes. Most laborers, cleaners etc may be dumb but they do positive things to SL. In fact, they are much better than well educated, cunning, racist people (eg. peter) who do negative things to SL.

Ananda-USA said...

Hello Guys,

Before I going to bed, I would like share my comments which I put on NY times.

Saul said...

Wijeypala

Aren't the Bengalis the same way?

Yes but with an important difference - their language, culture, etc while very rich and diverse - is not as 'distinct'.

"(BTW, Tamil politics is perhaps one of the dirtiest, even given how dirty Indian politics is. Use of vulgarities, crude epithets even by state level leaders is not uncommon)."

Really? I had heard that N. Indians considered the Tamils to be relatively sober and reliable, although some of the stuff that had transpired in Madras is amazing (like the assault against JJ in the legislature, or when an MLA opened his vetti without underwear when a female opposition member said that he was not a man).

Yeah Tamils are considered hard working, sober, reliable and very intelligent. Except when they get into politics apparently! :)

The MLA vetti example is a classic!

Another example - ever heard of supporters setting themselves on fire when a leader dies? It has happened in TN.

ReallyCold..... said...

[priyashantha said...
Defencewire,
I respectfully disbelief your story.
RAW is after Rajiv's killers than protect them. I may be wrong.]

LOL!

This is like saying, I am sure the color of your shirt is red, although I could be wrong on that one.

Anyone who is using insulting language here show that they have had an abused childhood. In this case denial of a proper education.

Puran Appu said...

Gotymbara,

wait till war finishes and we may get the right story.

Yes. you are correct.

Bhairav said...

We are simple people, we just want to be left in peace. All we want to do is go watch a good tamil movie, write a good tamil song, throw a granade at what we dont like and go eat masala vadai.
Sinhalese wont let us do that

Ananda-USA said...

Patriots,

A Fake Ananda-USA is active again.

So here are the Profile ID's for the Real and Fake Ananda-USA:

Real Ananda-USA:13271938845222503043

Fake Ananda-USA:14570385733919207119

Anonymous said...

Wijayapala

Let me add this as well. I think whole majority of bloggers here are not history experts.. may be few excepted. So when you say things relate to history and they don't like it or agree with it they simply can't counter your arguments. So some simply do nothing while some reply with ~!@#$%^*. This is natural and if the same people start to argue with Mithra Fernando same will happen. i.e. "we don't agree with you, don't believe you, and !@#$%^. If you go to TV and argue with Ellawala Medananda theor or Prof. Rohana Mandisdeera or some one like that, that's fine. People come to DW to read some battlefield related stuff and its not fair to expect them to be history experts.

Karunabudhi said...

හමුදාව විශ්වමඩු බලය අල්ලයි

http://www.dinamina.lk/2009/01/28/_art.asp?fn=u0901281

Ananda-USA said...

Patriots, this is what I commented on the Globe and Mail regards to the current stimulus budget.

The lack of vision in recent Canadian politics will seriously deteriorate the country unless someone jumps in soon.

In my opinion, this is a result of neo-liberal economic policies (AKA globalization). We have to wait for the Yanks (and other economic powers) to make a move before we act ourselves. This has turned the government into "money managers" rather than "visionaries." Ironically the only party leader with a vision is Duccepe.

Anonymous said...

Pansilu

/Why don’t you ask Ananda-USA to see a psychiatrist since he is the one who is writing pages and pages of obvious crap and posting it twice! Perhaps you fear an attack from fellow patriots. Ha ha ha/

Crap or not is subjective but what's the problem with pages and pages writing? If you say one should see a psychiatric since one write pages and pages a lot of authors have to do that!

He may write lengthy ones and if one don't want to read it simply don't read - why ask not to write. I support freedom of expression.

Some people called themselves patriots have attacked me but I had no fear. (ha ha ha) Anyway I don't expect you to understand what I write (as it seems you didn't get what I wrote so far).

Ananda-USA said...

Patriots, expect me here around 11 am Est Tomorrow since I have to cover NY times, Economist, Globe and Mail newspaper and other newspapers in order to counter Eelamists's propaganda. Being on 401 and old pension benefits, I use my comment part on mainstream newspapers as 9-5 job.

Ra said...

Wijepala looks like an attention seeker. In real world no body cares for him or his arguments. We barely knew such a person.

In this virtual world of blogs he jumps in and shit everywhere like a child to gain attention.

Man you have a serious mental problem!

Mental cases like you can not be helped easily. Please go to www.echanelling.com and find a psychiatrist to get some help. I would be happy to provide financial assistance for you on that.

/Last Mile

Unknown said...

Hooo hooo!!!

Where's the counter attack??
Where is it?

Come on dudes give it your very best shot! Or Are the grapes sour???

B#1 said...

Ninja,

A big day for you. Cheers ! :)

------------------------------
I still believe VP has already escaped from the country with the help of IND.

Ananda-USA said...

My comment for Canada's stimulus budget on G & M.


A good article that not only correctly sums up the current budget, but the current crop of politicians that we are supporting.

All to often politicians react to situations, whether because they are unable to see what is needed or because doing nothing is a surer way of keeping votes than making mistakes. And we accept this mediocrity.

Elected politicians are our employees. They should have the skills to not only keep the country running, but to make it better, yet all too often we find we have elected caretakers rather than visionaries. Yes, we need to repair what we have, but we also need to look to the future and start building now what future generations will need. To do otherwise is to callously disregard the welfare of our own children and grandchildren.

Not only do many politicians lack imagination or foresight, they sometimes seem to want to prevent it in others. We are a rich nation. We are better off in this time of recession than almost anyone else. We should take this opportunity to put ourselves at the forefront of technological innovation, not look to what others are doing before even thinking of acting.

How often has Mr Harper said it is time for Canada to take it's place on the world stage? This budget could have been his opportunity. Could have been.

It might be argued that no government action will get us out of this situation, that all that needs to be done is to give the appearance of doing something. Perhaps we will one day wake up and want to spend more than we earn - and will. When that day comes, will we look back on today and wonder, "What if?"

NOLTTE=Peace said...

LTTE refusal to handoverCasualties

Either 300 casualties are,

1. None existent
2. Combat casualties
3. Purposely injured by LTTE firing at them to get the international attention

N said...

Guys,

You watch the match SL-IND on line;
http://indiaenglandcricket.blogspot.com/

TropicalStorm said...

India is one of the biggest obstacles to outside interference to get the war stopped. That being the case, the story about RAW wanting to save Velu may well be a canard launched to upset the Sl people and create a rift between the two nations. It could also be very useful for the LTTE, if Velu has actually escaped already.

We have a very professional army and lots of very influential friends all over the world who want terrorism eliminated.

Let's wait and see on this story, which doesn't really add up anyway.

Ra said...

This made headlines huh
http://defence.lk/new.asp?fname=20090128_04

My fucking donation did not get at least a confirmation email.

Ananda-USA said...

http://indiaenglandcricket.blogspot.com/


N,

It does not work

onecountry said...

cricket live streaming links

http://ind-sl-flash.blogspot.com/ (Freedocast - SL Local channel) - All OS/Browsers
http://ind-sl-ustream.blogspot.com/ (UStream - NEO) - All OS/Browsers

http://ind-sl-tvu.blogspot.com/ (TVU - CBN) - IE/FF on Windows

http://ind-sl-spvod.blogspot.com/ (SPVOD - SuperSports) - IE on Windows

onecountry said...

This is perhaps the best streaming link.

http://ind-sl-oox.blogspot.com/

Hakim said...

So India has not heard the idiom "Once bitten, twice shy"?... ha ha, so they want a second round, we will see what they get!

Moshe Dyan said...

last mile,

i was feeling the same way! that bugger had donated only $125!

but don't get disheartened, mate. we know they are lagging behind in adminstrative functions.

may be bcos ioma is involved. have met her. she is a very nice person; very practical minded. reminds me of a humble school teacher.

Moshe Dyan said...

hakim,

welcome back, mate.

God bless our war heroes.

Bhairav said...

Thanks onecounty

N said...

Ananda-USA,

I am watching the match now on line, you may try this if the links given by others don't work. http://www.cricketbroadcaster.blogspot.com/

On the previous link you can see below which says 'channel 1' ' channel 2'. Try 'channel 1'. Good luck.

Puran Appu said...

Guys,

I heard that everything will be over by the weekend.

Get ready to Celebrate like we never did before.

Moshe Dyan said...

thanks N and onecountry.

murali 500 (2nd highest tally), jayasuriya 13,000 (2nd highest tally).

Kirigalpoththa said...

Read the articles on nation on Sunday and bottomline today.

These true stories are awesome. I will never watch a WW11 film nor any other war film again. When I was small I thought Green berets or US SEALs were great. Our soldiers have made them look dwarves! Hope we can hear more stories of the braveries of our soldiers after the war. Hope some one would be able to make a film or two may be more.

All Sri Lankans will be able to proudly narrate these stories for generations to generations....to come

Man, this war is legendary!

Nisal said...

GREAT NEWS PURAN!!!

THANK YOU!

(don't you like to share some more info with us (only if possible))

Nisal said...

Military victories offer political opportunity to restore life

- Mukherjee

http://www.dailymirror.lk/DM_BLOG/Sections/frmNewsDetailView.aspx?ARTID=39006

Ananda-USA said...
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Observer said...

Yep Puran, I also heard something to that extent,

I think the game is over now. It is highly likely that it wont even take till Feb 4th to wrap up the scene..

Dumindak said...

Velu is always one step ahead, so he must have escaped even before the war started.

Ananda-USA said...

Patriots,

All of the following posts are by Fake Ananda-USA.

This is a guy who can't establish a persona of his own and wants to steal that of other bloggers! No self respect, I think!

Check the Profile ID (see below), before you assume it is me. Thx.

Profile Id of
Real Ananda-USA is: 13271938845222503043


You can use Collapse Comments if you dont want to view Fake Ananda-USA's posts (Profile ID: 14570385733919207119)

Fake POST#1:
Patriots, this is what I commented on the Globe and Mail regards to the current stimulus budget.

The lack of vision in recent Canadian politics will seriously deteriorate the country unless someone jumps in soon.

In my opinion, this is a result of neo-liberal economic policies (AKA globalization). We have to wait for the Yanks (and other economic powers) to make a move before we act ourselves. This has turned the government into "money managers" rather than "visionaries." Ironically the only party leader with a vision is Duccepe.


FAKE POST#2:

Patriots, expect me here around 11 am Est Tomorrow since I have to cover NY times, Economist, Globe and Mail newspaper and other newspapers in order to counter Eelamists's propaganda. Being on 401 and old pension benefits, I use my comment part on mainstream newspapers as 9-5 job.

My comment for Canada's stimulus budget on G & M.


A good article that not only correctly sums up the current budget, but the current crop of politicians that we are supporting.

All to often politicians react to situations, whether because they are unable to see what is needed or because doing nothing is a surer way of keeping votes than making mistakes. And we accept this mediocrity.

Elected politicians are our employees. They should have the skills to not only keep the country running, but to make it better, yet all too often we find we have elected caretakers rather than visionaries. Yes, we need to repair what we have, but we also need to look to the future and start building now what future generations will need. To do otherwise is to callously disregard the welfare of our own children and grandchildren.

Not only do many politicians lack imagination or foresight, they sometimes seem to want to prevent it in others. We are a rich nation. We are better off in this time of recession than almost anyone else. We should take this opportunity to put ourselves at the forefront of technological innovation, not look to what others are doing before even thinking of acting.

How often has Mr Harper said it is time for Canada to take it's place on the world stage? This budget could have been his opportunity. Could have been.

It might be argued that no government action will get us out of this situation, that all that needs to be done is to give the appearance of doing something. Perhaps we will one day wake up and want to spend more than we earn - and will. When that day comes, will we look back on today and wonder, "What if?"



POST #3:
http://indiaenglandcricket.blogspot.com/


N,

It does not work

abc said...
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Puran Appu said...

නිසල් (Nisal),

The news is straight from an officer of the 57.

They are very confident that they will clear everything within 78 hours.

God knows, lets see.

Puran Appu said...

72 hours.
Sorry.

Gannanuth amathaka wenawa machan.

ReallyCold..... said...

@Ananda-USA said...

{This is a guy who can't establish a persona of his own and wants to steal that of other bloggers! No self respect, I think!}

I fully agree!!

What do you call for those who verbally abuse others, like your friend Asithri?

Ananda-USA said...

Obserber,

What have you heard about the new developments?

Anonymous said...

Puran Ha Ha 6 hours.. no problem.. we waited 30 years..

Rover said...
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Rover said...

Wijayapala, DW, and others,

"I think DW blog has been hijacked by somebody from the original writer. I suspect this happend 6 months back."

Don't think so. But after checking with a couple of guys, I think I know why DW said this.

Any intelligence agency is like an octopus, with tentacles in disparate positions of interest. Usually even in the most testing of times, these tentacles don't really change, but the strengths they exert do.

Most intelligence agencies as you know strive to aim to work on the moral of "prevention is better than cure"; and the aim of DW writing, I suspect was this. It is to weaken a particular perspective that was gaining a little bit of momentum from within India. So DW article will exert a fair bit of pressure on that perspective to cool down.

However, sure, DWs major focus may have changed. (I like the old DW better)

Anonymous said...

India can't play cricket with Pakistan. SL can play with Pakistan and also India. (and win ha ha). (If needed SL play with China too. Ha Ha) That's SL is all about..

Nisal said...

Thanks Puran

Ananda-USA said...

[India can't play cricket with Pakistan. SL can play with Pakistan and also India. ]

Ninja,

You are talking about 3-some?

Rover said...

MOD can't really say what DW, said without antagonizing India. Hope you get my drift. Heh! Heh!

Rover said...

Oh, BTW, DW article will also keep the TN's LTTE supporting idiots happy. What if RAW planes are gathering intelligence for us; and TN LTTE supporters will think RAW is trying to help LTTE, and keep quiet.

Anonymous said...

Rover

But DW audience is SLA supporting Sri Lankans.

Puran Appu said...

Observer said...

I think the game is over now. It is highly likely that it wont even take till Feb 4th to wrap up the scene..

Yes Bro. It's true, I heard.

Pansilu said...

Ananda-USA said:

//Patriots,

A Fake Ananda-USA is active again.

So here are the Profile ID's for the Real and Fake Ananda-USA:

Real Ananda-USA:13271938845222503043

Fake Ananda-USA:1457038573391920//

I think it should be other way around. The person who claims he is real is the one writing fake lengthy posts. I like the other Ananda because his posts are short and sweet. LOL

ReallyCold..... said...

Cricket has slowed the flow of information to DW.

I think Jayasuriya should retire after today.

He has done his service to the country.

Ananda-USA said...

When the market opens tomorrow, let the audience decide who is fake and real.

Pansilu said...

Ninja,

//Some people called themselves patriots have attacked me but I had no fear. (ha ha ha) Anyway I don't expect you to understand what I write (as it seems you didn't get what I wrote so far).//

I am getting you quite clear like a whistle, mate. You are the one who can’t figure it out. Think hard buddy whether you can catch me, I will reveal it at the end and it will be shock to you!

BTW, I am sorry about the other day, I attacked you with filth but it is your fault, you call me LTTE supporter. I can stand anything but accusing as a traitor, no! and also I want to send you on a wild goose chase.

Anyway, don’t worry, these are all in cyber space, no harm done.

Cheers

Lalith Kuruwita said...

Janatha Party President asked Karunanidhi to accept the invitation and go to SL and request LTTE.

This is a good move. IF K'nidhi is actually worried about Tamils whay can't he request this?

Read the news below.

"Accept Rajapaksa’s invitation: Swamy
Jan 28 (Hindu) Janata Party president Subramanian Swamy on Tuesday said that Chief Minister M. Karunanidhi should accept the invitation of Sri Lankan President Mahinda Rajapaksa to visit Jaffna and Wanni and appeal to the LTTE to release civilians. In a release here, he said that since Mr. Karunanidhi often talked about Tamils being killed, it was necessary for him to accept the invitation to free them."

Lalith Kuruwita said...

Janatha Party President asked Karunanidhi to accept the invitation and go to SL and request LTTE.

This is a good move. IF K'nidhi is actually worried about Tamils whay can't he request this?

Read the news below.

"Accept Rajapaksa’s invitation: Swamy
Jan 28 (Hindu) Janata Party president Subramanian Swamy on Tuesday said that Chief Minister M. Karunanidhi should accept the invitation of Sri Lankan President Mahinda Rajapaksa to visit Jaffna and Wanni and appeal to the LTTE to release civilians. In a release here, he said that since Mr. Karunanidhi often talked about Tamils being killed, it was necessary for him to accept the invitation to free them."

Lalith Kuruwita said...

Lalith's opinion poll.

Who will catch the Fat Pig cautious

1 59
2 58
3 57
4 53
5 55
6 TF2
7 TF3
8 TF4
9 Other Division
10 Escape

Please make a selection in the Lalith's Opinion Poll.

I am collecting the names.

The winner will be annouced in two weeks.

Lalith Kuruwita said...

Situation as at 28-01-09

VP's pressure 162 117
VP's weight 140 KG

Aiyamperumal 01 KM
ALANKULAM 01 KM
Ampalavanpokkanai 01 KM
Chalai 00 KM 55 Captured on 25-01-09
Chilarattai 01 KM
Chu'ndikku'lam 00 KM - 55 Captured on 14-01-09
Chuthanthirapuram 01 KM
Dharmapuram 00 KM - 58 Captured on 13-01-09
IRANAIIRUPPAIKULAM 01 KM
IRANAMADU East 01 KM - 57 Captured on 15-01-09
Kaddaikadu 01 KM - 58 Captured on 15-01-09
KALAMADUKULAM 01 KM - 57 Captured on 17-01-09
KULAWEDDIDAL 01 KM - TF 2 Captured on 12-01-09
Kalmadukulam 01 KM
Ka'ndaava'lai 01 KM 58 Captured on 18-01-09
KARUPPADDAMURIPPU 01 KM
Keridattadu 00 KM - TF 4 Captured on 12-01-09
Kevil 00 KM - 53 Captured on 11-01-09
KULAWEDDIDAL 01 KM
Mamulai 01 KM
Marathampuval 01 KM
Masar 01 KM
Mullativu 00 KM - 59 Captured on 25-01-09
Murusamoddai 00 KM - 58 Captured on 12-01-09
Olumadu 01 KM
Palamattalan 01 KM
PALLEYADIRAKKAM 01 KM
PANDISUNDAN 01 KM
Periyakulam 01 KM
PIRAPPAVADDUVAN 01 KM - 59 Captured on 17-01-09
Pu'liyampokka'nai 01 KM - 58 Captured on 17-01-09
Puliyansekkaran 01 KM
Punnainiravi 01 KM
Puththukudirippu 01 KM
Ramanadhapuram 01 KM - 57 Captured on 16-01-09
Sinnaittimadu 01 KM - 57 Captured on 18-01-09
Tanniyuttu 00 KM - 59 Captured on 12-01-09
THADDAMODDAI 01 KM
Theravikulam 01 KM
Theravikulam 01 KM
Thonikal 01 KM
Udaiyaarkaddu 01 KM
Udayankattukulam 01 KM - TF 2 Captured on 17-01-09
Vaddakkachchi 00 KM - 58 Captured on 12-01-09
Vannankulam 01 KM
Vellamullivaikal 01 KM
Vellikandal 01 KM
Vishwamadu 01 KM - 58 Captured on 15-01-09

VP's Asshole ?? KM

Ananda-USA said...

[Some people called themselves patriots have attacked me but I had no fear. (ha ha ha) Anyway I don't expect you to understand what I write (as it seems you didn't get what I wrote so far).]

Ninja,

Whatever you say is diarrhea of mouth.

Pansilu said...

Guys,

How come maharoof comes to batting at three down? Other than Sana's 107 and Sanga's 44 it is nothing. I hope DPMDJ will do some thing!

Lalith Kuruwita said...

Ninja

SL team also won ICC trophy for the most disciplined team for last two years like SLA for last two years attcking LTTE minimising casualties.

DoDo said...

Thanks for the updates Puran machan. Appreciate it very much Bro.

:)

Lalith Kuruwita said...

TN asked Indian Government not to send the cricket team to SL.

I think all Tamils in TN are not waching the match!!!!!

Is there any player in the Indian team from TN?

DoDo said...

Pranab Mukherji has publicly acknowledged that LTTE must be militarily annihilated....!

Duka thamai Rnjiniiiiiiiiiiiii...!

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