Civilians have started arriving in their thousands by today. 522 civilians came yesterday and 2000 civilians had arrived by this evening. 25-30 LTTE cadres, who abandoned the movement, were also among them. This was the largest number of civilians to have returned to date and indicates the LTTE is really crumbling.
The 30-man Tiger team, which breached the 59 defenceline few days ago was completely annihilated along with several other Tiger teams in the general area Mulaitivu by a combined Special Forces, Commando and SLAF Mi-24 mission. The Tiger team from Ratha regiment, commanded from afar by Theepan had got more than they had bargained for. Although successful initially in firing a few RPGs at an Army Bus, Tractor with trailer and 2 tanks, the Tigers were systematically surrounded and picked off by the superior SF and CR teams.
Meanwhile Brigadier Prasanna Silva's 55 Division has finally entered Chalai. The declaration of the capture will be made within 24hrs as Sea Tigers putting up stiff resistance to guard its last entry-point into the sea were finding it extremely difficult to fight on due to the unconventional tactics employed by the veteran Special Forces officer and his junior commanders.
Thursday, February 5, 2009
Chalai about to fall as civilians start returning
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«Oldest ‹Older 801 – 1000 of 1651 Newer› Newest»Peter,
Thanks for the respond towards LTTE view with your findings.
One other thing I would like to find out from you.
What's your personal view about LTTE please?
Should they give-up arms? or should keep fighting with arms?
If they should fight with arms, why and what would happen to civilians?
very well mate thanks.
and how is that cute little crush of yours on Hon. VP?
is the eelam flame burning strong as ever?
Hi pete,
I like your change of heart. What we have been telling all the time
Is this real Peter or fake Peter? If real one, is he drunk?
this post of this tamil bandit,that 55.000 LTTE-cadres plan a huge offensive in PTK is the funniest story i have heard over the last weeks. After the fall of PTK he will tell us,that the 55.000 barefoot elite soldiers have tactically withdrawn to the ocean to act as suicide swimmers to destroy the SL-Navy. I´ve heard rumours,that they are already trained for this mission by Ian Thorpe and Michael Phelps,LOL.
Weli,
Change of heart?
Jack,
Please upload it online; I would love to have a read.
peter still it's not too late to admit the errors of your ways and cross over to this side
heck we will even make you into a parlimentarian or something like that!
remember Gota's amnesty is for all the low level cadres
think you should easily qualify
think can go visit Mullaitivu after a while
once you've undergone some vocational training and so forth
become a productive son of the land
so are you ready to give up on Eelam peter pan?
perein,
My strict personal opinion is that the LTTE should do whatever it thinks is correct.
As for the civilians, there is apprehension as to what fate awaits them in Vavuniya.
Now, most Sinhalese would get a moral relief in the belief that all the civilians are being held hostage.
Likewise, most Tamils would like to think that the civilians are staying there for protection from the LTTE.
In private, however, most people would admit that the truth is somewhere in-between.
so are you game my boy?
Jack,
Really? I didn't know about the vocational parliamentarian course. Giving an all new meaning to "spreading democracy"?
Pete,
Change of heart?
To live in this Island as one nation not forced, but the only way for both our races to move forward
weli,
In my opinion, understanding and not assimilation is necessary for survival.
And survival means moving forward; that is the theory of evolution.
http://www.defence.lk/new.asp?fname=20090207_06
Our troops are close to PTK
have to go
keep up the good fight peter my boy
or if you come to your senses come over to this side and we can use a fella with your propaganda skills
when the rebuilding work start
think hard my man
Peter-
Peter said...
perein,
My strict personal opinion is that the LTTE should do whatever it thinks is correct.
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Mate, some one who's well educated with an open minded, why do you have to go with the flow? I always had respect towards your openions. Surely going foward too.
There is no secrete past Sri Lankan gov's had discriminated against the Tamils. But it's no longer the case.
Every one learnt the lessons.
What I do not understand is, why LTTE still fighting to get killed?
jack,
Thanks, but no thanks.
Peter
I also don’t believe in forceful integration. And I also don’t like this brain washing of innocent Tamils saying Sinhalese are the raciest nation in the world. The main reason for my hating of the LTTE is that they are the biggest stumbling block for this co –existence. At the same time I hate the singhala extremist parties too.
perein,
There is more to LTTE than what meets that eye.
That's, there are elements beyond the Bhanu and Sornam who are discussed of here.
The whole struggle is built on trust. To an outsider, it may seem blind, fanatical even. But that is the way things are.
{{{ Peter said...
I am going to Colombo on Tuesday.
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Peter,
have you found a place to park your DICK in Colombo??
By the way, is it still 1 KM to KILLI?
Karu,
Voluntary co-existence requires freedom of choice.
No Sri Lankan government has been brave enough to offer the Tamils that freedom.
They all fear, as you do, that Tamils have been brainwashed into hating Sinhalese and that we will move away, given the choice. Truth couldn't be further.
LTTE will become irrelevant in an era where the Tamils feel free and secure.
A "solution" can melt the stumbling-block.
Lalith,
It has been parked. Will be revved as soon as the CCTV is turned off.
Peter,
Trust has gone missing some time ago from LTTE side.
Simply do not undestand why some take the things the way it is.
It's very good to chat with you mate.
Take care and stay away from danger. Mother Lannka does not wana loose a educated person like you.
Quotable quote from Velu to the Tamil Diaspora.
If J.R. Jayawardena was a true Buddhist I would not have taken a gun.
he he heeeee.....
J.R. Jayawardena became the leader in 1977, Velu took a gun and killed in 1976.
he he heeeee.....
Perein,
Not necessary to dazzle me in compliments if all you want is a decent exchange of views; after all that is what blogger is for.
As for trust in LTTE, there are those who trust and those who don't. I haven't seen any significant net movement either way. If anything, current situation is forcing the fence sitters to polarise.
Mathamathika;
SK, if you listen to what she says here, you might not consider her to be a worthy daughter of Sri Lanka
Who said that I am considering her as a worthy Sri Lankan. She's a bloody pussycat bitch. But President of SL can always issue such a note and let her bite her own words. President of SL does not have to be honest has he?
It is a plot which I suggested.
All of a sudden this blog has become relevent. No more Sinhala Moda Hena boys or LTTP terroist.
We are discussing real issues. Assimilation is not the solution. Never worked anywhere.
Trust of each other is the solution as I see it..
We Sinhalese should get out of he minority complex., and the Tamils should foster that trust.
MIA isn't actually pro-LTTE.
She has just found a niche in the anti-war/anti-Bush "change" hippi movement.
Peter
For me- freedom of choice involves freedom to live any place of choice, freedom to follow any religion of choice, freedom to live ones way of life as far as it does not limit the others freedom, freedom to chose the people governing us, freedom to use the language of choice, freedom to enjoy equal opportunities etc., I strongly believe there are limitations of these freedoms for all Sri Lankan at different levels. I believe in a future where all Sir Lankans enjoy these freedoms
Wlei,
You sound like Premadasa to '89.
Unfortunately, textbook strategy sometimes takes precedence and screws things up.
If you are old enough, or have any contacts with the people of that era, you'll know what I mean.
Sujeewan,
MIA has been out of SL to know the relality that is mordern Sri Lankan society. So lets give her a margine of error till she visit SL and find for her own.
I met many tamil youth in LON who beleives the same. They had never been to this beatiful Island all their life.
Karu,
Actioning ideals is more difficult than it sounds.
"MIA isn't actually pro-LTTE."
maybe true.. she is only using her deceased father and some interesting controversy to gain popularity!
"I met many tamil youth in LON who beleives the same. They had never been to this beatiful Island all their life."
better be in denial than accepting your mistakes.
typical human nature
Peter
I agree. But we all have to understand that is the only future we have and work towards it.
Her father is alive. He is doing some Ph.D at Cambridge.
UK not US.
Pete my friend,
I'm from a era long before Premadasa.
I had to hold the hand of a tamil friend when he got the news that his house was bernt in '83.
I kept few of them as refugies in my home then. The hatered we have for each other have to end for a new life to begin
Karu,
Freedom of choice means to be allowed to choose from more than one option.
Where Tamils are given only the option of Sri Lankan identity, the concept crumbles.
As I said earlier, most Tamils don't hate the Sinhalese. Neither do we rate ourselves as closer to Indians; if it was so, we would not have fought the IPKF.
Sinhalese simply haven't been brave enough to give the Tamils that choice. Rightly, or wrongly, you fear.
Wlei,
The hostilities will end when one side decides to give up arms and unconditionally surrender. Most likely SLA at this stage.
In which case weli,
Why do you think the IPKF came, LTTE fought against them and Premadasa provided the weapons?
Lol, looks like I have awoken the fake.
Fake, you have to make some changes to the profile.
"I kept few of them as refugies in my home then. The hatered we have for each other have to end for a new life to begin"
i was in my 20's then. we kept our neighbor who was a shop keeper and his whole family hidden for days..
they are still calling me every now and then from australia...
I could see LTTE not doing well in wanni, which is why i'm trying to suck up to you lot. Imagine if SLA won.
Then I'll flip sides and sing namo namo matha
"Neither do we rate ourselves as closer to Indians; if it was so, we would not have fought the IPKF."
Yes.. u rate yourself close to tamil nadu. Not india.
India and Tamil Nadu are totally differant..
Fake,
You haven't read some of my comments from mid-last year.
When I do find people willing to have an open discussion, I do engage them appropriately.
When I find people like you, in your real identity, only looking for a cheer leading replacement in-between cricket a series, I do chant namo namo moda Lanka.
Fake Peter,
Some times you do need to respect the meaningful conversations please.
Yes I know Peter,
The truth is sometimes bitter and, of course again u come from never land are related in some way to Charles Anthony and Charley Chaplin, I hope u join them soon.
Peace..RIP
Tamilnet reports 1000 SLA killed
This time it's true because its from a credible source.
He's well educated, he knows how to count and stuff, I think.
duzz,
If we rate ourselves as closer to Tamil Nadu, we would not have fought the IPKF.
If you are as old as you claim to be, you would have some idea as to what happened, behind the scenes, between the LTTE and the Premadasa regime.
There are Tamils who rate themselves as children of Tamil Nadu. Frankly, they are with you in the form of EPDP. Just look back at the history of Douglas Davanada if you want to identify New Delhi's quislings.
I have plenty of posts to prove that I'm meaningful. And I have intelligent discussions with moda Bandas because I'm intelligent.
Well Duzz,
Most here don't know what happened then and how our hearts cried out fr our follow bretheren.
Lets forget the past. As One Sebastian said as Ananda quated the Tamils too have to take a major share of lost opertunities.
The Hardliners of both our comunities took over from us and now we are paying the price.
A Generation lost in war.
Lets strive to build a better tommow
Between the LTTE and the Premadasa regime there were a lot of intelligent complexities. I'll be happy to discuss them.
Most of you guys have had an overdose of western media.
War did not start in '83 because of the riots.
Neither did the Diaspora all flee to the West in August '83.
As I said earlier, we don't all hate Sinhalese as an ethnicity.
Neither are we stupid enough not to understand the political posturing that was responsible for '83.
Fake,
At first I thought you wanted to irritate me.
Then I thought you were trying to disrupt the blog.
Now, I really don't know what your intentions are.
weli polanga,
exatly.. what has been done has been done..
its time to let go of differences and unite.
peter,
I know that Premadasa was no saint. A big part of sri lankans hate him as well as love him. And douglas is also a viper that could bite the hand that feeds him.
I accept that in those days grave mistakes were made by both parties. well you have to know that there are extremists in every community. But u have to accept the fact that people can change. U have made up your mind about sri lanka and its peoples. all i ask is you to visit wanni region, east,south and see for yourself the changes that has been done.
Look Peter
As I have said before, Im not a Singhala, Nor a Muslim, But Im after ur ass for having tormented Sri Lankans day in and day out for the past 30 years, pay back time...
War started much later when you invaded Jaffna then again after the ceasefire after closing mavilaru.
I'm not overdosed on western media because that was only reported in western media. No body in SL knew about it.
Overdosing on western media is for moda Bandas in SL.
I have other things to overdose myself. Things you could only get from a pharmacy.
I think "83 was the biggest blunder Sinhalese made in our 250 year history.
We gave an invitations for the rise of Tamil Nationalism in a big way by it.
Most of my Tamil frends lived as Sri Lankans till then, but not there after.
And we are still paying for it
oh well suck on it then, and trust me, I dont even look at a T.V, nor go through news papers, Im pretty much cyber oriented
duzz,
I was in Vanni more recently than you may believe. I do travel often to Colombo and Trinco.
Most Tamils only believe what ever their relatives back home tell them. This is why DefenceLK's videos and marches in Jaffna have very little impact on Diaspora attitudes.
As I said earlier, we don't all hate Sinhalese as an ethnicity, we only hate all individuals that belong to that race.
Ever heard the saying Can't beat them join them?
Fake,
Stop it because you are irritating and you are disrupting the intelligent conversations on the blog. I've never done any one of those things. Ask anyone here.
weli,
Yes '83 was tragic, but Tamil nationalism was awoken by a number of acts which wanted to re-write history. A lot of nationalist sentiments that would have been ignored by most students gained vigour when the teacher reiterated that an event/period/person had been modified or marginalised in the Colombo printed text-books.
I do travel often to Colombo and Trinco, because lot of tamil girls there. After all I'm a man with many needs despite the size of my man organ.
diaspora does not care for innocent tamil lives. all that they want is a broken SL.
Look whose preaching I'm surprised at myself. Maybe my blog on mahavansa rubbing off on myself.
Fake,
You sound like a teenager.
Most decent conversations are often had between people with dissenting views, not the same parroting.
Two senior LTTE sea tiger leaders and 15 cadres were confirmed killed during SLAF air raids Yesterday. Sources say Soosai was believed to be there
Ada Derana News allert
Come to guru and ask if you have any more questions on 83, diaspora and premadasa. You wouldnt find this info anywhere else, I've learned a lot from reading vadai wrapping newspapers.
Asso. Prof. Sisira Jayasuriya of Australia
He says :
1. 300 civilians got killed in one incident. => SJ does not refute this claim and compares it to what is happening to civilians in Gaza and Iraq! In other words, this war should be stopped to save civilians.
2. He affirms that SL is not a multi cultural society and indirectly justifies the "struggle" of the LTTE. => This is completely false.
3. He says the core of the LTTE is intact & invincible. => what RW/JJ/LTTE says. In other words there is no use fighting against LTTE .
4. When LTTE is defeated bombs will be exploding again in Colombo => Again say that SL has to bow down to LTTE.
5. He claims himself to be from the Singhala community.
Now folks, this man was seated by the side of 2 whites, in the land of WASPs. His servility was evidet by the way he was seated with a curved back. Is it the eagerness to serve his adopted country that make him a traitor to the land of his birth?
Really curious to know about this new character.
Talking about same parroting.
1 mile to PTK?
u no what!
LTTE 2 days go attacked army & took haul of arms(including mortars and "hundreds of arms") according to tamilnet. Photos of the preparations for the attacks are posted in tamilnet. That was 2 days ago.
BUT..
there arent any pics of captured arms posted there...I wonder why.
My frends suggested may be they don't have any cameras(all distroyed) or batteries have gone low....
It seems 2 be that tamilnet have started to post articles which they
hope to be true. (does not matter much b'se there wernt much truth there b4)
camer
Dear Pete,
Sri Lankan History was written by the Sanga (Mahawansa) and their main ai was to create an Theocrasy where they can prosper.
We have to come out of it as a nation if Sri Lanka want to prosper as one nation
oi peter
Peter said...
My strict personal opinion is that the LTTE should do whatever it thinks is correct.
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Just sallow a frigging cyanide and go to hell will ya, you guys really piss me off, well educated (with SL money)and soft spoken and enjoy all the kindness of Srilankans.
Then try to justify all the sakkili work including blowing kids and women and making everyone life miserable.
you get a passport and get to vote and have all rights as anyone else. even we pay for your birth. I think we have done so much unjust to other Malays, Burgers etc (apprently there are 20+ ethnic groups in SL), just because you guys speak different language it does not justify all this 30+ years of idocrasy.
If you want a friggin homeland then go to Tamilnadu.
Dont try to fcuking justify your lowcast act here.
MathaMathica,
He doesn't want the LTTE to benefit form the underdog syndrome that is prevalent in the West.
His learning shows.
aka,
As I said before, I visit Trinco quite often and I've witnessed what's reported on Tamilnet to be totally true. They never use doctored pictures or fabricated stories. If you repeatedly report fake stories then a lot of tamils will visit blogs like this to get the real story.
weli,
For most Tamils, Mahavamsa is irrelevant.
There really isn't any religious animosity between Tamils and Buddhists. In fact, we even go to Buddhist temples.
You believe in a version of history, and we believe is a slightly dissenting one.
Now, when you say we must believe what you believe we create a problem and awake nationalisms.
If you had just let things as they are, no one will even bother with history; for most people it is just boring.
http://www.army.lk/maps/map1.gif
the battlefield-map is again updated:
Do you have news from the coast? why is the 59th north of Mullaittivu not advancing?
Peter and other terrorists,
Have you ever thought why all cries for help from IC are ignored?
People are fed up of terrorism. No one is going to give-in to terrorists how hard you try to fool IC. You took the wrong bet.
It's a nice dream for every race to have their own little island. Why not make TN your own Tamil country? They seems to be very concerned about Tamils.
If you have a legitimate concern, why not use all the tamil propaganda energy and resources to communicate and negotiate with SL government. That's your only hope.
Israel managed to establish their country. Tamils are taking many similar tactics for Peelam. IC don't want another headache like that in Asia.
Peelam is gone dude. Find another way to liberate yourself, hopefully a civilized democratic way this time.
Oh look, I'm going to give a sermon, why dont you sit around and pay attention now. Because everybody cares about what opinions I have.
Pandula,
First overcome your caste preoccupation. Then I can consider your role in inter-national understanding.
Can some body verify the following Tamilnut report.
"http://www.tamilnet.com/art.html?catid=13&artid=28326"
{{{Tigers seize SLA arms storage in PTK
[TamilNet, Friday, 06 February 2009, 16:02 GMT]
Liberation Tigers of Tamileelam (LTTE) this week seized an arms storage from the Sri Lanka Army (SLA) in Puthukkudiyiruppu (PTK), sources close to LTTE told TamilNet Friday. Hundreds of SLA crack commandos were drawn into Mannaka'ndal and Keappaapulavu 'boxes' and were cut off from their rear supplies during a pre-emptive strike by the Tiger forces, resulting in the loss of more than one thousand SLA soldiers since February 01. An arms storage, which was full of weapons as the SLA was in full preparation to launch its 'final assault' on PTK was seized by the Tiger commandos engaged in the preemptive strike.
Tiger female commandos in final preparation before the preemptive strike [Photo: LTTE]
An LTTE commando with mortar [Photo: LTTE]
An LTTE commander of the female fighters [Photo: LTTE]
LTTE female commandos before launching the attack [Photo: LTTE]The sources further revealed that there were at least 20 mortars, thousands of shells, several hundreds of assault rifles, Rocket Propelled Grenades (RPG), RPG launchers and a conservative estimate of one million rounds were among the arms and ammunitions seized by the Tigers. The Tigers had emptied the store of stockpiled arms and ammunitions by the time the Sri Lanka Air Force (SLAF) bombed the location of its own arsenal.
Meanwhile, more than 100 SLA soldiers perished in a Black Tiger attack on Tuesday in Keappaapulavu, according to Wednesday edition of Eezha Naatham daily, the only newspaper printed in LTTE controlled territory.
The newspaper displayed photos of Black Tiger (BT) cadres with the LTTE leader Velupillai Pirapaharan.
The BT cadres rammed an explosives-laden vehicle into the SLA installation and the Tiger commandos stormed the 'box' and brought it under their control.
Meanwhile, reliable sources in Vavuniya, quoting informed Sri Lankan military officials, said an SLA Colonel who had refused to retreat with his soldiers and was insisting his rear command re-establish supply links to his stranded unit, was the target of the BT attack.
The sources in Vavuiniya also quoted Sri Lankan military officials as saying that there have been a number of surprise attacks and ambushes by LTTE units operating deep inside the SLA occupied territory in recent weeks.
Around 20 supply vehicles of the SLA that attempted to link up were destroyed in the attack. The Tigers also seized heavy weapons and military hardware, the sources further said.
The LTTE has released photographs of female commandos taken before the pre-emptive strike.
Meanwhile, defensive fighting was reported north of Mullaiththeevu near Chaalai.
Tiger fighters in a tank heading towards a frontier. }}}
I need to get on with Sinhalese now LTTE is losing all ends up. Lets see how many of these I could fool with my extremely intelligent stories about premadasa and mahavamsa.
guys,now the complete 53th is back south of PTK!!!
http://www.army.lk/maps/map1.gif
I am superior regardless of my willy size and that's why I'm here to teach you about mahavamsa.
So questions please
Fake,
This isn't a school playground for me to "get on" with people. If I don't like reading anything here, I'll simply surf one of the billion odd other sites on the net.
Why not go and preach your own misled diaspora? Stop crying and begging IC. No one is going to listen anymore.
Pick yourselves up from this defeat and do something meaningful, productive to the world and you will get your rightful place in the society. There are no easy ways or shortcuts for glory.
Pete my friend,
I never asked you to believe in Mahavansa. I said that it was written by monks for their own glorification.
It is all about who buit this that Stupa or This Stupa with little mention of Waves or Tanks as we call them.
We haven't found a Royal Palace in Anuradhapura yet (although we found many in Malathive).
I think many of us are so mixed together our races are irrelevent now.
Can you tell me how you have Ariyaratnams and Aiyasinghams as Tamils (Dravidians)?
We got mixed up true and squre and now fight from both sides of the divide called race.
Hi CJ
Yes latest news in the following PULLI GUL Report.
{{{{{With the LTTE being cornered into a smaller and smaller area of land, everyone has been waiting for the "final stand", a battle where the LTTE launches a fight till the death against the Sri Lankan army surrounding them. The first question that comes up in regards to a final battle is where would the LTTE choose to defend themselves. All military analysts have been expecting the final stand would take place in Mullaittivu, where for years it was believed the LTTE had stocked their heavy weapons. It came as a shock to most when the LTTE withdrew from Mullaittivu without a fight. It was then thought that the LTTE must be planning to hold their final battle in Chalai, since that is the head quarters of the sea tigers, which would give the LTTE more firepower, plus a chance to escape by sea.
The problem with this thinking is the foolish military analysts are looking at the LTTE as an ordinary military force, and based on that they are extrapolating what they suspect the LTTE must be planning. It is true that most armies, when faced with insurmountable odds, would definitely keep "escape" as a high priority in their war planning. Thus Chalai and Mullaitivu would be the obvious places to hold a "last stand"... but only if we were talking about an ordinary army manned by hired staff. The LTTE is not an ordinary army. They are as unconventional as could be imagined, and escape is the last thing on their minds during combat.
When the LTTE withdrew from Mullaitivu, military analysts were shocked and confused. Everyone had been 100% certain the last stand would take place in "the rebels main military bastion". What we all need to realize is the LTTE had fooled the entire world. Their military might had never been based in Mullaitivu. Why would you station yourself in a place that was previously your enemy's military base? Only a fool would mass all of their military power into a place that was completely known to the Sri Lankan army. The Sri Lankan army ruled Mullaitivu for years, and it was they who built the military fortifications in Mullaitivu.
The LTTE are much more intelligent than what the world is giving them credit for. They made everyone believe Mullaitivu was the center of their military power, and that Chalai was the center of their naval power, but when the Sri Lankan army marched into both of these places with little confrontation they found nothing at all. The LTTE had completely withdrawn from both of these cities without any signs of the great "last stand" that everyone was expecting.
As we get closer to the end game, it has now become apparent that the LTTE is going to make their last stand in Puthukkudiyiruppu. If you study the satelite maps of the region this makes the most sense, as the built up city of Puthukkudiyiruppu extends all the way to the coast. Though the newspapers keep mentioning that the LTTE will resort to jungle warfare, the fact is most of the jungle exists south of the A-35 road, which is government controlled territory. There is very little jungle left in LTTE controlled territory. The final battle plan of the LTTE does not involve jungle combat, but urban combat.
Day after day the Sri Lankan army makes claims of more LTTE camps being "overrun". In each case they make claims of recovering 10 or 20 bodies of LTTE fighters. But while they are able to show photos of broken tractors recovered from the "battle sites", as well as empty plastic barrels supposedly filled with petrol, they have never been able to show the bodies of these LTTE fighters they claim to have recovered.
Oddly, the morgue in Vavuniya, which only has a capacity to hold 40 to 50 bodies is not hitting its capacity. The morgue is not allowed to burry the bodies of LTTE soldiers without receiving a court order, and only two such orders have been given since the beginning of this year. Those two orders covered the burrial of around 70 LTTE bodies in total, and they were from the fighting in Kilinochi. So from this it is clear that the claimed recovery of LTTE bodies is false. If these bodies were actually recovered on a daily basis:
1) there would be photographs. The army is willing to show photos of every little thing they recover, from empty barrels to broken tractors, yet not a single dead LTTE body.
2) the morgue in Vavuniya would be full.
3) the morgue would be applying for court permission to burry these bodies.
Since none of these three are occuring, it is clear that the LTTE is not being overrun, but it has been withdrawing from all sides, bringing their forces into the Puthukkudiyiruppu area for their final stand.
It is known that the LTTE possesses around 10 main battle tanks, several armored personel carriers, many large artillery pieces, and perhaps a couple multi-barrel rocket launchers. Yet the Sri Lankan army has yet to find a single piece of heavy weaponry. The one recovery they did make was of a damaged 152 mm artillery barrel that was abandoned by the LTTE.
What will be interesting will be to see how the LTTE chooses to use these heavy weapons in the defence of Puthukkudiyiruppu. They must carefully hide these weapons to avoid Sri Lankan air strikes. From past experience, the LTTE's tactic is to bring their tanks out and fire on a target for a few minutes, before quickly moving the tanks to other locations for hiding. We must remember that the LTTE possesses advanced radar facilities, which warn them of any incoming air strikes much in advance. It is for this reason that the Sri Lankan army has resorted to using helicopter gunships, which can fly below radar level.
If we look closely at the satelite photos of the region, we see that both Chalai and Mulaitivu are split in the middle by water inlets from the ocean. These create ideal natural defence lines. If the LTTE was to try to make a stand against the Sri Lankan army, it would be intelligent to try to hold the advancing army at these two points and then send the bulk of their fighters to the middle (south and west of Puthukkudiyiruppu). The inlets in Mullaitivu and Chalai allow the LTTE to defend these positions with minimal manpower. Basically the coastline invasion has been sealed off on both sides, tying up two full Sri Lankan divisions, while the LTTE has to commit a small fraction of soldiers in return. The Sri Lankan army will have to resort to ferrying their armor across these inlets, which will leave them completely vulnerable to counter attack pushes. Any soldier or armored vehicle that crosses the inlet will be unable to retreat, and thus a sitting duck. It is highly possible that the LTTE may allow the army to cross these inlets to trap them, and then make a large push against them to completely wipe out the trapped forces.
While two divisions are sealed off on the coast, the remaining divisions are approaching from the South and West towards Puthukkudiyiruppu. What is interesting in these places is that the LTTE has given them the forest. The LTTE is defending the city, and the Sri Lankan army is positioned in the forests to the South and West of Puthukkudiyiruppu. While all military analysts expected the LTTE to make their stand in the forest, they have done the exact opposite, and have given the forest to the enemy. What could be the reason for this?
Militarily the LTTE is brilliant. They have convinced the entire world that they would make their stand in Mullaitivu and Chalai, and then resort to fighting from the jungles, but in reality they have done the complete opposite. They have given the jungle to their enemy, who is not used to defending from the jungles. It is a death trap for the Sri Lankan army. The LTTE is planning huge counter strikes into the jungles occupied by the army. In such a situation the Sri Lankan army will be completely unable to call in airstrikes, as the thick jungle canapy will not provide the necessary visibility.
The basic strategy is as follows: Allow the Sri Lankan army to take positions in the jungle, while LTTE holds the urban city line. When the Sri Lankan army brings in supplies to their jungle base camps, launch heavy surprise attacks under the cover of the thick jungle, leading to panic amongst the enemy soldiers. For the Sri Lankan army, resupplying their forces deep in the jungle will be extremely difficult, and airstrikes will be completely blind.
But how long can the LTTE continue this strategy? If we go by the estimates given by the Sri Lankan army, there are only 500 LTTE fighters left. If this was true, they would not be able to hold off the 7 approaching Sri Lankan divisions on 7 different fronts for a single day. We should note that all of the videos coming out of the LTTE held Vanni show one thing: order. There are no signs of panic. If the LTTE had only 500 soldiers left, we would not see people peacefully moving about in an orderly way. The LTTE infrastructure is very much still existant and functioning in the cities they control.
Let us look at it from another angle. What if there really are 400,000 civilians displaced in the area they control. The populations of kilinochi and mullaittivu are much more than 500,000 people. If 250,000 people displaced from kilinochi, and if 150,000 people were already in Mullaitivu, then that would total 400,000 people. Out of that 400,000 people, how many are ready to fight and how many have received defence training? What if 10% of those people were prepared to fight for their country? 40,000 new soldiers. And what if the LTTE actually had 15,000 hardened soldiers under their command? That would give them an army of 55,000.
So its up to you to decide whether you think the LTTE was administering 15,000 square kilometers of territory with only 500 soldiers. Its up to you to decide whether you think the LTTE spent the last 6 years building roads and skyskrapers, or whether instead they spent their time training their civilian population as a defence force. If its the later, then the Sri Lankan army is going to be in for a surprise in Puthukkudiyiruppu. The final stand may not be as final as you expect.
As a last note, let us analyze the numbers on each side. The Tamils are fighting to the death, knowing full well that they will likely die. That is their glory. The Sri Lankan soldiers on the other hand are poor farmers who are only there to receive a pay check. They don't want to die, and if things start going badly they will run to save their lives. There are 7 divisions, each with around 8,000 soldiers in them. For ever 1 soldier killed, there are another 2 soldiers injured and taken out of combat. In addition to this, for every soldier killed, there is another soldier that will desert. If a division loses 50% of its personel, it is effectively defeated and will not be able to go into battle. For this to happen each division would only need to receive 1,000 soldiers killed in battle:
1) 1,000 soldiers killed in battle
2) 2,000 soldiers injured and removed from combat
3) 1,000 soldiers desert
This adds up to 4,000 soldiers, or 50% of the entire division removed from combat, which would make the entire division unusable.
All the LTTE has to do is inflict 1,000 deaths to each division, and this battle will end with a huge loss for the Sri Lankan army. That is an impossible feat if the LTTE is down to just 500 soldiers, but if the LTTE actually has 55,000 soldiers as some suspect, then there is no way the Sri Lankan army will be able to sustain their invasion.
This battle may actually be the turning point in the war. In just a few weeks, Sri Lanka's international image has completely changed. It is now looked upon as an international villain, perpetrating genocide, bombing hospitals, etc. The president has given interviews where he has repeatedly stuck his foot in his mouth, making himself look like a fool in front of the entire world. His statements justifying the bombing of a hospital, his criticism of murdered journalists, and his calling aid agencies as terrorists have exposed him to the world. If this war does not end within a matter of days, and if instead it is dragged on for months, the world view will likely shift dramatically towards the Tamils side. There is a strong posibility that the LTTE will emerge from this with full international backing, along with a strong military victory against the Sri Lankan army. If such a scenario comes true, this battle would surely be the decisive turning point in the struggle for Eelam. }}}}
Is it just coincidence that I changed my tune now LTTE is limping on all fours.
Blogger MathaMathica said...
Asso. Prof. Sisira Jayasuriya of Australia
OOOk tuh !
I know there are billions of sites. Did you people on here know that?
Funny how I end up on the same site though. Maybe I'm too busy clicking my other mouse in all the wrong places. Well finding my mouse is never easy, I need a mirror most of the time.
I'm superior AND intelligent. Its with my super intelligence that I figured there were billions of other sites and sometimes I go there.
So who else wants to make friends with me now?
weli,
Truth is that none of us know exactly what happened in 1200 AD or 300 BC. We just read whatever and believe whatever.
However, when the Tamils believe in a certain version it is better to leave us to it, than to impose another version. Forced imposition gives credibility to existing belief and makes one feel under threat.
Kids who would have otherwise slept through history lessons became nationalist because notable changes were spotted in Colombo printed text-books.
I frankly, don't give a damn about 1,300 AD or 1,700 BC. It has little strategic impact on modern governance and on an ideological basis it won't gain acceptance amongst New World states.
Lalith,
As someone pointed out most of these photos are from Oct 08. Even the Tank seems to be crewed by SL soldgers to e even though we lost some to LTTE few years back
So whatever happened in 1200bc yes that was the reason LTTE took up arms.
Any more questions on history?
Multi handed god would be proud of me.
You are over estimating LTTE. They simply ran out of fire power and morale of cadres. Few hundred remaining are fighting desperately guard Senior leader as they don't have anything else to defend anymore. It's just a matter of time now.
Still having trouble finding one of these billion sites. Its like trying to find my willy gosh.
Children just escaped from the grip of the tiger
These children should be cared for with all our hearts. Both Tamils and Singhalea communities are accountable for the sufferings of any innocent specially the children.
Fake,
With all the comments you post, you could possibly be making a positive contribution, if only you could get yourself around to articulate opinions.
Forget the 5000 civilians who came out today, in general civilians are not coming to liberated areas because they dont want to come out.
You want proof? Just look how many of those who came to liberated areas are fighting to go back there.
Fake Peter (suffix 61)
I agree with Duzz on this one.
Just for once allow us a conversation with the real Peter. You are the best fake I have seen and I know this is the "passive moderation technique" employed by Defencewire. It is amazingly effective. But just now Peter is in a lucid, conciliatory mood. Please just have a cup of tea for another half and hour or so.
Peter: can I pose a hypothetical question?
Assuming Tamils were given a free choice on their future and they choose to stay in Sri Lanka, what sort of policies and programs do you think the government should immplement to justify such a free choice? I guess you could call these nation-building strategies. What should be done to shed the past and map an attractive path into a future where Tamils would feel they have a vested interest in a stable, united Sri Lanka?
John,
As I said earlier, no sane Tamil believes that '83 was endorsed by the Sinhalese as a nation. Nor have we been brainwashed into hating Sinhalese.
What happened then was political posturing. Tamils were mere props that were trashed around.
The "unitary" constitution, as it is today, is the medium that encouraged the posturings of the yesteryears. For as long as the medium remains the same, a politician of the future can easily be tempted to play to the gallery, just one more time.
What is needed is a review of the constitution and aqueduct safety measures put in place.
I am not going to repeat my earlier comments, but in summary, LTTE will cease to exist when and only when Tamils are able to exercise freedom of choice.
For the teenagers,
Not even Rajapaksa would want the LTTE to vanish away before the actual conflict is over. I believe that the Sinhalese are fully aware of India's intentions.
Freedom of Choice, so does your freedom of choice state that u can grab a part of this country and call it your own, depriving the rest of the population from there proper homelands..dude youve got so much shit up your head, look Im a burger, If I told you this country owes me a block of land where I can govern, is this the principle you are inviting, you see if one race can do it so can another, before u know this country will be in 5 peices governing themselves with the leader of each being a rebel, hungry for moneyd pig..
Peter
Even with a constitutional review, I doubt there is anyone in Sri Lanka with the ability to control rabble-rousing populist politians, be they Tamil or Sinhala. This requires a cultural change that may take years.
(By the way what are your thoughts on 13.)
More what I had in mind were economic, social, cultural initiatives that might make "Sri Lankan" a more persuasive meta-identity for Tamils.
Punisher,
You are thinking like a computer: 1 or 0.
In the past 20 years, there have been a lot of imagination from both sides; and, in the future there will have to be.
John,
We can't change the profession of politics; it is the same in every country.
However, the constitution, which is the medium, should prevent political posturing turning into an '83.
Unlike the African conflicts, ours is not one that was borne out of economic hardships or lack of education.
As for the 13th, here is a hint: it was drafted by India.
The Tamil proverb ‘Sirru Pillai Verlanmai, Veedu Vanthu Seraathu (efforts of small children at agriculture, will not bring a harvest home)’ has been proven true. Although the ‘Boys’ who spearheaded the initial Tamil militancy, became ‘Ageing men’ with time, they failed to bring the expected harvest home!
Sounds like David BS
Peter
Ok, the Constitution.
What specific amendments would you recommend that would both keep Sri Lanka together and asuage Tamil fears that they will become victims again.
Sorry left the ? mark off the last post.
Peter? You there?
John,
Read your constitution, marking off any clause that you feel could give rise to another '83 and add any clause you think could prevent one.
That I believe is the best contribution anyone who is not the on the front-line could make to either of our people.
Puka Bata,
Read Narendran's article in full.
Of you want, his previous writings can be found at tamilaffairs.com
Peter,
I have my own thoughts on this but I very much want to hear an educated, engaged Tamil view. This is a debate we really need to start now.
So what, in your opinion, are the offending clauses and what do you propose replacing them with?
SLAF bombing the crap out of Soosai hideout - video now on Defence.lk
A CALL TO ALL LTTE-MEMBERS IN PTK;ESPECIALLY FOR THE "PRABHA-YOUTH" ;ALL TAMIL CHILD SOLDIERS:
PLEASE LEAVE YOUR POSITIONS IN PTK.THERE IS NO SENSE IN DYING A SENSELESS DEATH;YOU ARE STILL YOUNG AND THE FUTURE LIES AHEAD OF YOU.
DO NOT BELIEVE THE PROPAGANDA OF YOUR "GREAT LEADER PRABHA";THAT THE SLA WILL KILL ALL TAMILS;THEY WILL NOT KILL YOU.EVEN WITHOUT TAMIL EELAM YOU WILL HAVE A BETTER FUTURE AFTER THE WAR IN SRI LANKA;YOU WILL ENJOY ALL RIGHTS. PLEASE LEAVE YOUR COMBAT POSITIONS IN PTK;WHERE THOUSANDS OF YOU YOUNG TAMILS ARE NOW AWAITING THE FINAL ARMY ASSAULT.WITH WHICH WEAPONS DO YOU WANT TO RESIST? WITH YOUR OLD RIFLES;WITH YOUR OLD GRENADE-LAUNCHERS AND YOUR FEW ARTILLERY-INSTALLATIONS???THE DEFENCE OF PTK WILL NOT LEAD TO A HEROIC MARTYR DEATH;BUT TO A COMPLETELY SENSELESS DEATH.THE MODERN-EQUIPPED SRI LANKAN ARMY IS APPROACHING PTK WITH 8 DIVISIONS;TENTHOUSANDS OF SOLDIERS;HUNDREDS OF TANKS;HEAVY ARTILLERY;AIR JETS;COMBAT HELICOPTERS ETC...
DO YOU REALLY THINK;THAT YOU CAN HALT THIS STORM FOR ONLY FIVE MINUTES?????????????
PLEASE GO HOME AND HIDE WITH YOUR PARENTS UNTIL THIS WAR IS OVER IN 10-20 DAYS.THEN A BETTER LIFE WILL BEGIN FOR YOU.PLEASE LEAVE YOUR LTTE-OUTFITS AND DEFENCE POSITIONS IN PTK!!! WHEN THE ARMY WILL ENTER THE TOWN IN THE COMING DAYS AND YOU ARE STILL THERE;YOU WILL ALL BE KILLED!!! PLEASE LEAVE!!!!!!
John,
It is your opinion that you should present and make a case for.
My opinion isn't much different to earlier, rejected amendments.
Peter,
With respect that is not an answer. I'm the one asking the question, and you are the one avoiding giving a constructive response.
Does anyone actually believe that LTTE can or would hide the death of a senior leader?
TamilNet was the first to report the deaths of Raju, Shankar, Ramanan, Tamilselvan and Charles.
Yet, some don't fail to get excited.
CNN did the justice.
Good ana balanced interview with Maniac In Action
Note the stoned face of the reporter when she lies.
Finally you can market PMS. Got to love the west.
John,
The power to amend the constitution remains with you. Hence, it is your amendment that will, if ever, be of any use.
Reading through the constitution with one eye on '83 would, at least, be an eye-opener.
MathaMATHICA
I also watched the interview, I feel he is a pathatic guy, If i had few pennies in my pocket i will throw at him. He looks very uncomfortable, I cant imagine how he teach in university.
His character is totally unbecoming of an associate profesor. He did nt have any self confidence in front of two white people. I have seen some LTTE goons talked much better in BBC.
He is same like Brian Seneviratna.
AN URGENT CALL FOR ALL YOUNG TAMIL LTTE-FIGHTERS IN PTK!!!! PLEASE DISTRIBUTE THIS CALL EVERYWHERE YOU CAN TO SAVE THE LIFES OF THESE POOR "PRABHA-YOUTH"-BOYS!!!!!!!
A CALL TO ALL LTTE-MEMBERS IN PTK;ESPECIALLY FOR THE "PRABHA-YOUTH" ;ALL TAMIL CHILD SOLDIERS:
PLEASE LEAVE YOUR POSITIONS IN PTK.THERE IS NO SENSE IN DYING A SENSELESS DEATH;YOU ARE STILL YOUNG AND THE FUTURE LIES AHEAD OF YOU.
DO NOT BELIEVE THE PROPAGANDA OF YOUR "GREAT LEADER PRABHA";THAT THE SLA WILL KILL ALL TAMILS;THEY WILL NOT KILL YOU.EVEN WITHOUT TAMIL EELAM YOU WILL HAVE A BETTER FUTURE AFTER THE WAR IN SRI LANKA;YOU WILL ENJOY ALL RIGHTS. PLEASE LEAVE YOUR COMBAT POSITIONS IN PTK;WHERE THOUSANDS OF YOU YOUNG TAMILS ARE NOW AWAITING THE FINAL ARMY ASSAULT.WITH WHICH WEAPONS DO YOU WANT TO RESIST? WITH YOUR OLD RIFLES;WITH YOUR OLD GRENADE-LAUNCHERS AND YOUR FEW ARTILLERY-INSTALLATIONS???THE DEFENCE OF PTK WILL NOT LEAD TO A HEROIC MARTYR DEATH;BUT TO A COMPLETELY SENSELESS DEATH.THE MODERN-EQUIPPED SRI LANKAN ARMY IS APPROACHING PTK WITH 8 DIVISIONS;TENTHOUSANDS OF SOLDIERS;HUNDREDS OF TANKS;HEAVY ARTILLERY;AIR JETS;COMBAT HELICOPTERS ETC...
DO YOU REALLY THINK;THAT YOU CAN HALT THIS STORM FOR ONLY FIVE MINUTES?????????????
PLEASE GO HOME AND HIDE WITH YOUR PARENTS UNTIL THIS WAR IS OVER IN 10-20 DAYS.THEN A BETTER LIFE WILL BEGIN FOR YOU.PLEASE LEAVE YOUR LTTE-OUTFITS AND DEFENCE POSITIONS IN PTK!!! WHEN THE ARMY WILL ENTER THE TOWN IN THE COMING DAYS AND YOU ARE STILL THERE;YOU WILL ALL BE KILLED!!! PLEASE LEAVE!!!!!!
Finally, areal footage of damaged Mulathiev Hospital by SLDF. What a shame to bomb a hospital when civilians and injured seek hospital in a no shell zone.
K,
I'm off to have dinner.
Still have dozens of emails to get through; so, will be back later.
Peter
So it seems that 1983 is at the root of all your grievances. But as many may have suggested, this was the result of a unique conjunction of an immature, inexperienced polity, an incompetant leader (just my view) and a socio-cultural head of steam that had been building for some time.
I think that most people would acknowledge that Sri Lanka has moved light years beyond that now. You visit regularly, so even you must recognise the change that has occurred. Am I wrong?
Do you really think that the powers that be would ever allow another 1983 to happen? Speaking for myself, I think its inconcievable.
Soosai's luxury Manson destroyed in air raid- Puthukudduyiruppu
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5qIUecwsuA
1983 was the most notable ignition point of the conflict, but it was by no means the beginning.
SWRD is the one of the most short-sighted politicians, if not the most, to have led SL and I think he is the real culprit. After half a century, we are still paying the price for one man's stupidity. What he did was stupid with a capital "S".
To the Fake Peter (Suffix 61)
Thanks for letting us go on this one.
John.
Chinthana,
Thanks for the link bro. Defence.lk is too big and hence too slow :)
Your comments here please. Free forum without IDs/PWDs
soorapappa
not a problem mate. ..
by the way how stupid these ltte has to be, once the bunker is destroyed next min earth moving vehicles arrives, then we bomb those again...hehehe bonus for us hey ......very nice to see.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCokNPni7RQ
AN URGENT CALL FOR ALL YOUNG TAMIL LTTE-FIGHTERS IN PTK!!!! PLEASE DISTRIBUTE THIS CALL EVERYWHERE YOU CAN TO SAVE THE LIFES OF THESE POOR "PRABHA-YOUTH"-BOYS!!!!!!!
A CALL TO ALL LTTE-MEMBERS IN PTK;ESPECIALLY FOR THE "PRABHA-YOUTH" ;ALL TAMIL CHILD SOLDIERS:
PLEASE LEAVE YOUR POSITIONS IN PTK.THERE IS NO SENSE IN DYING A SENSELESS DEATH;YOU ARE STILL YOUNG AND THE FUTURE LIES AHEAD OF YOU.
DO NOT BELIEVE THE PROPAGANDA OF YOUR "GREAT LEADER PRABHA";THAT THE SLA WILL KILL ALL TAMILS;THEY WILL NOT KILL YOU.EVEN WITHOUT TAMIL EELAM YOU WILL HAVE A BETTER FUTURE AFTER THE WAR IN SRI LANKA;YOU WILL ENJOY ALL RIGHTS. PLEASE LEAVE YOUR COMBAT POSITIONS IN PTK;WHERE THOUSANDS OF YOU YOUNG TAMILS ARE NOW AWAITING THE FINAL ARMY ASSAULT.WITH WHICH WEAPONS DO YOU WANT TO RESIST? WITH YOUR OLD RIFLES;WITH YOUR OLD GRENADE-LAUNCHERS AND YOUR FEW ARTILLERY-INSTALLATIONS???THE DEFENCE OF PTK WILL NOT LEAD TO A HEROIC MARTYR DEATH;BUT TO A COMPLETELY SENSELESS DEATH.THE MODERN-EQUIPPED SRI LANKAN ARMY IS APPROACHING PTK WITH 8 DIVISIONS;TENTHOUSANDS OF SOLDIERS;HUNDREDS OF TANKS;HEAVY ARTILLERY;AIR JETS;COMBAT HELICOPTERS ETC...
DO YOU REALLY THINK;THAT YOU CAN HALT THIS STORM FOR ONLY FIVE MINUTES?????????????
PLEASE GO HOME AND HIDE WITH YOUR PARENTS UNTIL THIS WAR IS OVER IN 10-20 DAYS.THEN A BETTER LIFE WILL BEGIN FOR YOU.PLEASE LEAVE YOUR LTTE-OUTFITS AND DEFENCE POSITIONS IN PTK!!! WHEN THE ARMY WILL ENTER THE TOWN IN THE COMING DAYS AND YOU ARE STILL THERE;YOU WILL ALL BE KILLED!!! PLEASE LEAVE!!!!!!
just came home after going to the election rally in kurunegala..
not sure if UNP is going to win a single seat @ the provincial council!
close to 600 000 people..
http://www.maniacworld.com/are-you-going-to-finish-strong.html
Peter anna . we know that you know how to count very well unlike your fp and the gang .
Tamil shit reports that they killed 1000 SLA and weapons .then it should be more than 1000 T56:))
Anna plz help them to count :)))))))may be they are thinking zeros do not have any value after putting 1 in the first .
dayata kirula is sooooooooo packed that i stayed for 1 1/2 to get into BMICH and another 1 1/2 to get out of it without seeing a single exhibit cos it was so jammmmmmed packed :(
every bone in my body hurts by getting crushed by the crowd !!!!
http://www.maniacworld.com/are-you-going-to-finish-strong.html
duzz,
fantastic video.
i thought he was a charles anthony brigade member after mullathivu.
ha ha ha!
Susai is dead! huu haaaaaaaaaa....
Rupavahini shows video footage of bombing the 2 story building with an under ground bunker. immediately after the first bombing, video shows a bako is trying to clear it off and rescue some from underground. SLAF bombed the place again completely destroying the place with the bako.
they say susai and 15 leaders dead!
way to go SLAF!!!
100 commets up :)
I mean 1000
Looks like Mahen has joined tamilnet.
The sources further revealed that there were at least 20 mortars, thousands of shells, several hundreds of assault rifles, Rocket Propelled Grenades (RPG), RPG launchers and a conservative estimate of one million rounds were among the arms and ammunitions seized by the Tiger
Hundreds of SLA crack commandos were drawn
Hundreds of SLA crack commandos were drawn
Uge ammage H******, asa athi
any eelam fucker can hom behind the scenes. but no negotiations.
1]nothing to negotiate about.
2]tough luck. tamils completely missed the bus. sinhala have sacrificed too much to give anything. cost is priceless.
3]tamils who've been crying even before sinhala got independence, get what the muslims, malay & burghers get. nothing more.
4]even if we didn't sacrifice anything tamils still get nothing more than what's existing now.
sri lanka will always be ruled by sinhala.
time goes on.
TIC TOC TIC TOC TIC TOC TIC TOC TIC TOC TIC TOC TIC TOC TIC TOC.
" Theraputtha said...
Susai is dead! huu haaaaaaaaaa...."
It is not confirmed yet. Lets see how this goes.
velluprabhakaran and duzz
[ http://www.maniacworld.com/are-you-going-to-finish-strong.html]
You should see the way my neighbor trying to get up when he is drunk!
Mahen got food positioning, hik hik hik,,,,,,
AN URGENT CALL FOR ALL YOUNG TAMIL LTTE-FIGHTERS IN PTK!!!! PLEASE DISTRIBUTE THIS CALL EVERYWHERE YOU CAN TO SAVE THE LIFES OF THESE POOR "PRABHA-YOUTH"-BOYS!!!!!!!
A CALL TO ALL LTTE-MEMBERS IN PTK;ESPECIALLY FOR THE "PRABHA-YOUTH" ;ALL TAMIL CHILD SOLDIERS:
PLEASE LEAVE YOUR POSITIONS IN PTK.THERE IS NO SENSE IN DYING A SENSELESS DEATH;YOU ARE STILL YOUNG AND THE FUTURE LIES AHEAD OF YOU.
DO NOT BELIEVE THE PROPAGANDA OF YOUR "GREAT LEADER PRABHA";THAT THE SLA WILL KILL ALL TAMILS;THEY WILL NOT KILL YOU.EVEN WITHOUT TAMIL EELAM YOU WILL HAVE A BETTER FUTURE AFTER THE WAR IN SRI LANKA;YOU WILL ENJOY ALL RIGHTS. PLEASE LEAVE YOUR COMBAT POSITIONS IN PTK;WHERE THOUSANDS OF YOU YOUNG TAMILS ARE NOW AWAITING THE FINAL ARMY ASSAULT.WITH WHICH WEAPONS DO YOU WANT TO RESIST? WITH YOUR OLD RIFLES;WITH YOUR OLD GRENADE-LAUNCHERS AND YOUR FEW ARTILLERY-INSTALLATIONS???THE DEFENCE OF PTK WILL NOT LEAD TO A HEROIC MARTYR DEATH;BUT TO A COMPLETELY SENSELESS DEATH.THE MODERN-EQUIPPED SRI LANKAN ARMY IS APPROACHING PTK WITH 8 DIVISIONS;TENTHOUSANDS OF SOLDIERS;HUNDREDS OF TANKS;HEAVY ARTILLERY;AIR JETS;COMBAT HELICOPTERS ETC...
DO YOU REALLY THINK;THAT YOU CAN HALT THIS STORM FOR ONLY FIVE MINUTES?????????????
PLEASE GO HOME AND HIDE WITH YOUR PARENTS UNTIL THIS WAR IS OVER IN 10-20 DAYS.THEN A BETTER LIFE WILL BEGIN FOR YOU.PLEASE LEAVE YOUR LTTE-OUTFITS AND DEFENCE POSITIONS IN PTK!!! WHEN THE ARMY WILL ENTER THE TOWN IN THE COMING DAYS AND YOU ARE STILL THERE;YOU WILL ALL BE KILLED!!! PLEASE LEAVE!!!!!!
Even if he (Susai) survived, he won't live more than 15 days. ;)
නිසල් - நிசல் - Nisal ,
Do you know the difference between BTR 80 and WMZ 551?
Is WMZ 551 the Chineese version of the Russian BTR 80?
Which one is suppose to be the best?
Any Idea?
ReallyCold,
Sorry for taking long time to answer mate, Anyway I don't intend to waste other blogger's time dragging this conversation any longer. But I try to give my honest opinion,
No job should be a secure job. It is that insecurity that makes productive workers.
Strongly disagree. There are lot of research has been made in to this area and found out that this model doesn't work . Infact it harms the overall business structure in a negative way. Because of insecurity people loose their creativity, if that happens no sustainable business can exists, certainly not in the long run. Without having a sustainable business structure economy will collapse (Sounds like Navindran ha :)).
MayilRavana,
Upali Wijayawardene was an example of an aristocrat who had such good will among the common man. Unfortunately no one mentions guys like him any more.
Couldn't say it better bro. Sri Lanka is desperate to have such entrepreneurs at this juncture to build our economy. Currently we are lacking such charismatic leadership and vision in our business sector.
Sujeewa Kokawala,
I still see you visualizing the govt sector role and "services" than business. Sorry I'm not a supporter of that system. It can be initiated an run successfully only for one generation. Then after chaos. In fact those
who started heavily state oriented economy in 50s 60s and 70s are main culprits of downfall today. This sector is what caused all the corruption of which you complain now. Such systems are not sustainable.
I certainly agree with you mate. The main problem with government sector is that there is NO vision and leadership. Even if we have
those, with the current corrupted system it's way hard to make it work.
monaragala is returning to normalcy fast.
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MONARAGALA: IN THE JUNGLES of LUNUGAMVEHERA in MONARAGALA an army patrol was fired upon by some civilians using small arms from an illegal cannabis cultivation around 3.00 p.m. on Friday (6).
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puran,
THe russian BTR 80 is the 8th edition from a long line of APC's. THey are battle tested. That means to design the vehicle direct input from battle commanders were taken.
u and i both know that the russians know 1 or two things about armor.
the WMZ is a bit smaller and a bit less powerful. BUt in this case i'd go russian
Civilian exodus has begun it seems. Rama in Rupavahini said people are coming to government areas by thousands. Providing basic needs to these people is a huge responsiblity for the gvt as well as a huge cost. Gvt should arrange something for the general public to contribute to providing the basic needs of these people. Like in flood situations for example. I am sure people would be more than willing to contribute. It will provide an opportunity for masses in the south that we do care for our brethren from the north irrespective of race. Also will reduce the burden on gvt.
People with influential powers over the authorities please consider.
close to 15000 IDPs sought protection of the forces in V'mdau and D'puram.
escaping civilians are coming at a rate about 100 per hour
LTTE APC destroyed
LTTE 'Mech Infantry" type intrusion turns fiasco; 15-20 terrorists killed
Sri Lanka Army 14 Gajaba Regiment and Armoured Corps soldiers operating at the 59 Division frontline have foiled an attempted LTTE intrusion by an improvised armoured personnel carrier this afternoon (Feb 7).
According to the battlefield sources, the terrorists have attempted to breach the army forward boundary south of Puthukkudiyiruppu junction using a similar tactic used by the army mechanised infantry. However, the attempt tuned a fiasco as the well-prepared soldiers received the inrushing armoured vehicle with rocket propeller grenades (RPG) and a shower armoured tank fire.
Troops have observed about 15 -20 armed cadres in the vehicle before it was destroyed. The sources said that there about 10-15 bodies of slain LTTE cadres could be visible scattered in the no man's area.
people from west of a9 probably can be settled back in their homes straight away. the sooner they are settled back the more people can be taken in. it will aslo keep costs to a minimum.
LOL,to use only one russian APC with 20 men for breaching a FDL,is this the large LTTE-counter offensive? LOL LOL LOL
Cj,
THen we'd have to sell all the AK's we bought dude..
And i hope you know what u are talking about
Mi24, Mig , T55, Ak 47s , Mi17 all russian.
Chinese weapons are cheap..
duzz,
Thanks Mate. Really appreciate it. :)
most of pur weapons are from China,India,Pakistan and Iran,ask General Fonseka. Chinese weapons today are much modern than the old russian shit. By the way, the best weapons are of course western weapons from Germany,Britain,France and the USA,but these countries do not sell weapons to us,unfortunately. Some ultra-modern german tanks,british artillery and US air jets and this war would have been ended already one year ago
"Free burial for Soosai and Romesh with complements from SLAF"!
What a way to go, Thillaiyampalam Sivanesan! (somewhat similar to Uday & Qusay Hussein!)
[[Puran Appu said...
නිසල් - நிசல் - Nisal ,
Do you know the difference between BTR 80 and WMZ 551? ]]
No idea bro, I'm not a military expert.
Do you have any IT related questions ? ;)
Who ever didnt watch this yet,, here is the link again...
Soosai's luxury Manson destroyed in air raid
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5qIUecwsuA
[[[Some ultra-modern german tanks,british artillery and US air jets and this war would have been ended already one year ago]]]
even the strongest tank & entire crew can be busted like a papadam by one shoulder fired missile fired by one person at the cost of a fraction of the tank & its valuable crew.
it's the men & their motive behind the weapons that matter.
americans lost badly in vietnam while enjoying overwhelming superiority in weapons.
north vietnamese beat them using russian & chinese weapons. they were highly motivated & tactically superior.
USA were hampered by bad misjudgement,lack of vision & motivation.
the israeli KFIR's & Rusian mig 27's are proven anti terrorist material battle tested in middle east & chechnya.
although USA weapons are tchnically superior israeli & east european weapons are more value for the money paid. specially for our requirements.
[[Puran Appu said...
Looks like Mahen has joined tamilnet.]]
Mahen's theorem:
Diaspora is ready to accept any story without hesitation, if and only if the story is highly extravagated.
Proof:
http://www.ellalanforce.blogspot.com/
well well,one pig down, actually a sea going pig,this time given an express funeral service FOC, he should thank the air force for saving him the embarasment..
American & Eropean weapons much superior most others. But they never sell thouse to us.
While Russian are of better quality than than Chinese there is a big price difference.
Most important thing is to byu the weaponse we require, not what is in the market.
Dear Panisher,
We will win this war when Tamils (not LTTE) loose their will to fight. So Soosai or Praba is not a part of the equation
if RW was in power by now instead of LTTE sinhala would have definitely had to use bakkos to dig up the rubble in colombo & suburb after LTTE bombings.
(wellawatte & kotahena would have been spared for sure, ha ha ha!)
Unless the 7 LTTE air fields were built for commercial traffic?
for example carrying tourists to visit malathi brigade slut strip tease shows in future eelam?
ha ha ha!
America's wr in Vietnam was lst b4 any US solder steped tnto VN.
It had more to do with their theories than the ground situ
I think we have won this round, but this is a war that has been going in for centuries.
Like the 100 year war between the English and the French. (it went for 112 years if I'm not mistaken)
I think we have won this round, but this is a war that has been going in for centuries.
Like the 100 year war between the English and the French. (it went for 112 years if I'm not mistaken)
Lankan TV reports in reference to army sources,that some forward units from the 59th and 53th divisions are now only 100 meters away from the southern outskirts of PTK and are ready to leave the jungle to enter the town. Any additional info?
an excerpt -
from defensenet
By: Dr.Rajasingham Narendran
[[[To have expected humanitarian considerations for Tamil civilians will thwart the government push for victory, was a serious miscalculation- probably the last, by the LTTE. Sri Lankan governments were not bothered by humanitarian considerations with regard to even Sinhala civilians and Buddhist monks in their mission to crush the JVP insurrections! I have been told by senior police officers of that period how brutal and inhuman the counter - insurgency operations were. The Sri Lankan government cannot be accused of discrimination against Tamils in this instance!]]]
although i do not personally endorse the methods used to crush JVP, sri lankan govt. had no choice at that point of time.
it's proof that not even a vestige of post war LTTE can exist in SL.
SLA will crush them like egg shells.
added problem for LTTE will be the tamil civilians & dieasspora coming for revenge. the remaining LTTE hot shots better follow the zurich leader's xample & admit themselves to the nearest loony in.
ha ha ha!
ps - I have witnessed first hand & close up how the insurgency was crushed in late 80's. believe me friends, LTTE will be ground into fine dust.
cj,
What is the TV station??
TV Lanka
it seems,that PTK will fall between tuesday-friday next week. This is my personal guess
What is the relevence of Keheliyas prediction of getting by 7th Feb?
CJ - I think the end will be much sooner than that.
Dear Velu = Don't think that average ri Lankan accepted the way JVP inserection was crushed in 70ties & 80ties. Not even the Current President accepted it
My personal opeenion is that LTTE lost this war way bak in 2001, when they overan Elephant Pass.
They have been in widrawal since. Lost the cream in that operation although they were succesful.
During the Peace Accord they just bluffed as a real fighting army.
another excerpt from
By: Dr.Rajasingham Narendran
(February 07, London, Sri Lanka Guardian
[[[The LTTE should be remembered for many things. Its organizational abilities, innovativeness, resource mobilization skills, battle tactics, bravery and propaganda prowess will be part of legends and history for thousands of years. The LTTE was able to garner the enthusiastic and overwhelming support of most Tamils within a short time of its emergence. It had come to embody their aspirations for respect as a people and resistance to Sinhala misrule.
Tamils gave the LTTE their unreserved trust. However, its brutality, resort to meaningless violence and terrorism, lack of moral scruples, inflexibility, deviousness, disrespect for the people it claimed to lead and inability to adapt to changing circumstances will also be equally remembered.]]]
the second paragraph completely cancels the first & takes the LTTE well back into minus antarctic territory.
ha ha ha!
"the chinese weapons are much more modern than the old russian shit. only idiots believe in russian army strength any longer.In Georgia they lost 4500 soldiers in five days,i would not even buy a single weapon from this cloake called russia.We should buy weapons from China,India,Iran and Pakistan,as we used do do it over the past years"
I believe it's high time we should start developing our own weapons, at least start with guns. We all ready make the DOVRA, UNICORNS and I believe if we round up some high talent from our universities as Katubadde and peradeniye and embed them with the army engineers and technicians we will be able to come up with our own designs.
I am studying a MSC in Mechanical Engineering in MANCHESTER UNIVERSITY, and I already have sent some technical (not the full version, of course) to the Sri Lanka MOD about a 6X6 wheel tank design I came up with, still waiting for a reply.
All sri lanka needs to develop it self is proper leadership and guidance, and fortunately after a long time we have it now.
MOST UGLYEST TERROR GROUP IN THE WORLD = LTTE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCCr4aySVPM
CJ,
"the chinese weapons are much more modern than the old russian shit."
Not exactly- the Chinese stuff are knock-offs from Russian stuff. They might be "newer" but not necessarily more modern more or less better quality.
weli_polonga,
I agree with what u said about LTTE bluffing exposed & the way jvp uprising was crushed.
there was a time when we admired what the JVP shadow govt.was doing in their areas of influence. we thought they were executing justice.
but soon they became extremely unpopular when their hard & fair laws became harsh & unfair.
when they attempted murdering the armed forces they really got the works. it was out of our hands.
they'd lost both the public & the military support.
exactly the same thing happened to LTTE. it was a carbon copied script but with a longer time frame for LTTE.
Dear Velu
VP will be a hero for any generations of Tamils yet to be born.
Probebly no one will remember SF of Goya in anothe decade.
We (Sinhalese) had many heros in our time. But there are allready forgoten.
Dear Velu,
Don't put all the blame on JVP. Our own Militery did very baberian things to crush it. We all blame the politickos for it now.
But the SL Forces too have to take a major portion of that blame.
Guti;
I certainly agree with you mate. The main problem with government sector is that there is NO vision and leadership. Even if we have
those, with the current corrupted system it's way hard to make it work.
Let's say, at genesys there was no corruption. In fact that was 50s/60s/70s. Say they had a vision. Both above can be debated. But for the sake of logic let's say so.
But in a multi party democracy, the state sector goes through a see-saw like policy alteration. In any country this occurs. In first world, where regulations do not belong to parties and politicians the see-saw effect is minimal. But here, the govt sector is taken upside down sometimes even twice every decade.
So in few decades, systems start malfunction anyway.
I am not saying that everything should be privatized. Surely there are genuine services like military, education, welfare etc. Also there are some semi-service like sectors such as health, transport, media, which should be heavily regulated and compensated for the needy. But why the hell did they take over enterprise, production, sellable services such as electricity, telecommunication, etc? Also R&D, funded R&D sector, which was never to be.
Classification should be field oriented. For an example when foreign medicine firms strangle public, I stand by the step taken by Prof Bibile. But why do we have to state run plantation? Why did we produce milk powder or batteries by state? What advantage does it bring?
Take a look at Australia [if you know the systems there] to see how they blend socialism and capitalism at right proportions.
SL thought of govt doing them all. In fact SLFP thought so. UNP thought of complete private sector with all freedom. Socialists added a further mess. Finally we are left with a mammoth corrupted govt sector. Every politician puts his supporters into an institute under his ministry after election. Institutes are over staffed. And after sometime the theme is lost and they think these institutes are run in order to cater the employees with a living. Of course you cannot forget their unions either.
THIS happens inevitably. It is like gravity. You cannot run a system of this sort. In the back of this process good entrepreneurs faded as they had to combat policy and perception.
What our friends in the other side of the debate are suggesting is an idea which looks like this. Expats come here to develop nation by getting employed by local structures. Sadly we do not have much in private sector. So unless they bring investments with them, they only have govt sector. And they will end up being part and parcel of this system.
During Premadasa days what our state engineers did was supporting his gam udava. They had to do work like building pandols. Right now I'm sure such ppl must be put to work in events like Deyata Kirula. Politicians think taht these are development work. But sadly they mean nothing.
Our tiny private sector is doing whatever they can, but ending up being insignificant. This is why foreign aid is a critical factor of our economy.
So the bottomline of my whole point is to convey the message to expats. What the nation wants is investments. Not your coming back and joining the day-today hazzle of other sri lankans. And we are unable to pamper you with these complains. Sri Lanka is not a perfact place [nowhere is for taht matter]. So please make do with what we have here in SL. Try to make a difference with whatever protocol we have, instead of demanding magic.
When it comes to weapons, what we need is what we can bye cheaply to get a job done.
There will always be much better weapons we can't afford or not sold to us
weli_polonga,
vesapilley is fast becoming a villain even before his death. he'll soon be made the biggest villain for fooling & taking advantage of a desperate, gullible tamil public here & overseas.
he really led them up the garden path by their noses in nooses with his synthetic heroism, mono ethnic mentality & inflexibility.
the heroism of the uprising is cancelled many times by the LTTE villainy to it's own people. this is written by many tamils including Dr.Rajasingham Narendran.
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