Latest military reports indicate that the LTTE could have a fighting force of around 2,000 cadres, majority of whom are those forcibly recruited during the Cease-Fire and paraded before the media under such names as "RPG Commandos", "Leopard Commandos" and "Black Tigers".
Sources indicate that these cadres are fighting largely out of fear and are ready to flee every chance they get. Their morale is low but are unfortunately trapped by hardcore cadres and are afraid to surrender to the Army due to brainwashed mistrust in the SLA. However, the Army recently discovered families of LTTE martyrs among the civilians who had escaped to the government's side.
The major concern now is whether the fighting, which is concentrated mainly in and around Puthukudirippu and Ampalavanpokkanai could shift to the civilian safe zone as the Tigers run out of places to retreat. These areas start just north of Mulaitivu Town as one crosses the Wattuwan Bridge in Mulaitivu north.
Areas like Mullaivaikkal, Vellamullaivaikkal, Mathalang and Puthumathalang are designated civilian safe zones. These areas continue to be used for military purposes by the LTTE in complete disregard for civilian safety. Even the agents of a powerful multilateral humanitarian agency recently revealed that the two Zlin 143s involved in the aerial suicide mission on Colombo had taken off from near a civilian settlement along a stretch of beach at Mullaivaikkal in the designated civilian safe zone.
Meanwhile ground sources confirmed to DefenceWire that it was the 53 Division which had reached the Puthukudirippu built-up though the Commander of the 58 Division was quoted by the media as saying it was the 58 which had first breached the PTK built-up.
Friday, February 27, 2009
Danger of LTTE taking the fight to civilian safe zone
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It can be a RAW hand behind this attack to down few birds from one shot. Think abt guys..
මචන් පිටර්, තෙරුන මදි, අයෙ කියපන් කො.
As our Foreign Secretary said, this attack won't damage our relationship with Pakistan.
We will let the authorities in respective countries to investigate and find out who is behind the attack.
The lesson we should learn from this is that terrorists have the ability to attack anywhere any place they wish. We have to be prepared.
As Gringo said, this is a good day to round up all the LTTE infiltrators and weed out the South.
It is reported that LTTE is active in Wilpattu again (perhaps about 40 of them). Similarly there are few in the Eastern jungles, and the newly liberated Mulative jungles. We need to smoke them out as well.
Wipe them out.. wipe them out!
මචන් පිටර්, දන් තෙරුනා බන්ග්, උබෙ අකුරු පොඩ්ඩක් වෙනස්. කොටි කටවල් වහිල වගෙ නෙ බන්?
In a terrorist attack reminiscent of the Mumbai attacks, 6 Sri Lankan cricket players were lightly injured while a third umpire was critically injured while on their bus. The incident took place outside the Qaddafi Stadium in Lahore, the capital of Pakistan's Punjab province. Five people have been confirmed dead from the security detail. While the Mumbai attack showed confusion and cowering Indian security forces, the Pakistani reaction, in contrast was swift, taking casualties but effectively repulsing an organized and surpise attack.
The attack was well organized and involved two bomb blasts followed by small arms firing. While five security guards were killed and several injured, the security forces managed to repulse the attack. The attackers numbered 12 and came on motorcycles, fired indiscriminately and then fled, leaving back ammunition bags and weapons. The firing continued for about 25 minutes.
Bags of ammunition was left in front of Al-Fatah store in neighborhood of Gulberg. Weapons left behind included 84mm Carl Gustav recoiless rifles, controversially a standard issue weapon to the Indian Army, a weapon not typically found with the Taliban.
Carl Gustavs are of Swedish origin and exported to the Indian army and never exported to the Mujahideen. RPG-22 rocket propelled anti-tank grenades, another standard issue for the Indian special forces (and another weapon less typical for the Taliban who more typically prefer RPG-7s) was also used. A senior defense correspondent, while remaining anonymous, states that the choice of weapons as well as other evidence, clearly indicates India's hand in the present attack and is being seen as a "response" to the Mumbai attacks.
Terrorist attacks perpetrated by RAW have many previous precedents but given the present sensitivities and the Indian reaction to the Mumbai attacks, they could prove to be a catalyst for heightened tensions between the two belleaguered neighbors.
Sri Lankan cricketers Kumar Sangakkara, Ajantha Mendis, Thilan Samaraweera and Tharanga Paranavithana received minor wounds. The Third Umpire is seriously injured and The cricket team has been recalled by Sri Lanka in light of these attacks.
Gavin Scovell, a sports producer and a witness to the attacks applauded the security detail for their rapid and calm response. In a press release, he stated:
"The guards were brilliant. They weren't panicking. They were very calm," Scovell said. "It must have been a terrifying experience, but they handled it well."
Meanwhile, two unidentified bodies have been found but it has not been released yet if these are of the attackers or of civilians.
Puk Batta,
Please tell us from where you got this post. A link would be highly appreciated.
Some time ago recently I met 4 Indian air line pilots here and one of them is a Tamil from TN and he said then how sad they are that their leaders are interfering in the affairs of SL.All of them have been to Col. on flights and have gone with their families on holidays. They all said how friendly our people were. To day I got a call from this Tamil Pilot who just landed somewhere in the world and was distressed upon hearing about this attack while he was flying. He was extremely distressed as he is a very strong cricket fan. He is extremely friendly just as most of the Tamil Nadu citizens I have met and all of them condemn the terrorists in Sl and their leaders helping them for no other reasons than for corruption. All of them say that they(the politicians in TN) should devote their energies in affairs of Tamil Nadu where there’s so much neglect. I find these Tamils so friendly and you can see many such young in Malaysia and they truly despise these terrorists in SL giving all Tamils a bad name. I too have met a few Tamils from Mauritius who are truly angry with these terrorists and one of them even said that they are happy to know that one of our’kings’lived and died in their island which they have adopted him as their king. I found out that they were referring to Ehalapola Dissawa who lived and died there. None of them speak Tamil but speak English and French and they have Tamil names. Also there there’s another lot in a sugar growing island in the Carrabian where the terrorist lobby tried to settle and do some sort of smuggling and they were all evicted as they had no part with their fake struggle.
[Bags of ammunition was left in front of Al-Fatah store in neighborhood of Gulberg. Weapons left behind included 84mm Carl Gustav recoiless rifles, controversially a standard issue weapon to the Indian Army, a weapon not typically found with the Taliban.
Carl Gustavs are of Swedish origin and exported to the Indian army and never exported to the Mujahideen. RPG-22 rocket propelled anti-tank grenades, another standard issue for the Indian special forces (and another weapon less typical for the Taliban who more typically prefer RPG-7s) was also used. A senior defense correspondent, while remaining anonymous, states that the choice of weapons as well as other evidence, clearly indicates India's hand in the present attack and is being seen as a "response" to the Mumbai attacks.]
You are a silly asking source from a journalist!!!
you may ask the expert!! defence-wire!!!
Puk Batta,
No offense, as much as I like to believe what you say, I want to know where this news is coming from. Obviously, there is no known journalist called Puk Batta, unless you are a journalist and you want to reveal your real name here.
coming from Pakistan miltary!!!
don't ask me anymore!!!
RC,
Look at this photo from Lahor. The intent to kill is amply clear.
Sam Perera asked a question
Puk Batta,
No offense, as much as I like to believe what you say, I want to know where this news is coming from. Obviously, there is no known journalist called Puk Batta, unless you are a journalist and you want to reveal your real name here.
You want to know his source, Sam? He's copying and pasting from this website:
http://www.grandestrategy.com/2009/03/9988123-indias-revenge-raw-attacks.html
You can find out who they are in the 'About' section.
there is one person still not fully out of danger!!!
Check this URL http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_Gustav_recoilless_rifle. Pakistan also present in the list of users.
velluprabhakaran said...
[ponna & lingam thinking is much worse. ha ha ha!]
i heard my name :D
The South Asian countries should work together to eliminate terror and bring peace and prosperity to their peoples.
This region together with China was the industrial power house of the world even in the 18th century !
But the region failed to produce quality arms in sufficient number which the west did and the conquered the region just with that.
It is calculated that, for the west to recover from current economic crisis, the best thing to do is to destroy the budding industrial infrastructure in the region.
We have LTTE, the agent of the west, trying to split India and SL. They are also trying to create chaos in the region with the help of Al-Quaida type terror outfits which were originally created by USA.
And to confound the things, it seems RAW is infested with LTTE agents.
If the Cricket team had been killed, it would have created a lot of resentment from us towards Pakistanis .. lack of appropriate security etc. This could have spoiled the great military co-operation that exists between Pakistan & SL.
The regional intelligence agencies must collaborate to weed out external threats ( Ex. Tamil Diaspora).
Sam Perera - Macho PuK BATTA is lying big time. its not the 3rd umpire who is injured it is the 4th umpire. 4th umpire got shot in his back several times.
PUKATA WEDI VADILA PORATA AMARUI.
PUK BATTA dont get offended, ETH MACHO BORU EPA.
Pakistani people love Sri Lankans, and they hate Indians. There must be an outside hand in this shooting.
Whoever responsible for this shooting, i think their target was to break ties between SL and Pakistan(this is only one possibility). Our leaders are not stupid to break ties with Pakistan in this kinda situation. Palitha Kohona mentioned in a phone interview that,(with NDTV i guess), this incident wouldn't break ties with Pak.
peeter suck-kiliya,
daughter or wife?
Sam and others
I now understand the bus has driver may have saved the players. Someone has said that a rocket like that has been fired and missed.
I thought the bus was the one next to the gunmen on the video, apparently it was a bigger one had some bullet holes in the front as well.
I was hoping to see spray of machine gun bullet holes and they were not there.
The media hasn't taken LTTE in to the front as suspects yet. They don't rule them out either.
Few of my predictions about possible statements by different parties.
- UNP: SL govt sent cricket team to the dangerous Pak, in order to obtain military supprt. So govt should go home.
- JVP: Govt officials spent xxx and yyy on safety calculations. Still terrorists attacked.
- Pussycats: two SL cricketers dead and 5 wounded on a deadly attack on SL team by MUSLIM terrorists
- Arujna: There was nothing wrong in touring in PAK. it was the fault of security evaluation of current board.
- Thilanga: Our cricketers are being risked by the previous and current cricket administrations
- Pramodya: Cricket has become life and death, players shud be given higher pay and insurance.
- Australia/England/SA/NZL: Pak has become too dangerous to travel. SL is also at closer proximacy to Pak, and Bangladesh was once a part of it. We will reconsider the tours in these countries. Notably India is not a risky place, and no change for all tours there and participation in IPL.
- ICC: [will list it for next board meeting in one year. Will start paying millions to this security evaluation firm who has no representative in Asia]
Defencewire uthumanani;
SKR pavasana paridi PTK Handiya vijayagrahanaya kara atha. Eya pala karanu manavi.
For those who are in to the war and defeating LTTE for the victory, I want you to pay attention to the fact that Tamil separatism is still alive and fully capable of doing damage to Sri Lanka even after LTTE is defeated.
How many of you disagree with NDS when he says Tamils are only 350 years old in Sri Lanka?
He claims that none of the Tamil scholar has challenged him on that issue yet.
The 1st half of his speech really make sense considering I usually don't agree with him issues about the west.
He trashes western science and it is a lifeline for most of us including myself.
not as pretty as Rana uncle's daughter though
http://www.dailymirror.lk/DM_BLOG/Sections/frmNewsDetailView.aspx?ARTID=42105
*cough* *cough*
nw who says sri lanka dnt hav media freedom?
"His daughter, M.I.A wishes to tour Sri Lanka"
Sirasa might organise a musical show too....
heh heh.....
fingers crossed....
xxx
;).
why kattaparichchaan is not comming now?
Puk Batta, Saul, and palival75
The evidence I see in media is highly indicative of the attackers' intent to kill SL players. Therefore, it is very likely that the attackers had a bone to pick with Sri Lanka or they were acting on behalf of some other party who had a bone to pick with SL. I am at a loss to believe that either India or Pakistan wanted to kill SL cricket players. I will give the investigation a few days to clarify the picture. As I stated above, with all due respect to my Indian friends, I am glad that this didn't happen in Mumbai. Otherwise we would have been mourning by now. It is the action of real battle hardened cops and commandos of Pakistan that saved the lives of SL cricket players together with the brave and sensible bus driver. This instance reminds me LTTE's attempt to take Pakistan High Commissioner Bashir Wali's life in Colombo and how our Commandos gave their lives to save the HC.
On a funny note, Ajantha Mendis could have handled the whole situation by himself alone if he had SL Army Special Forces training instead of Arty Gunner training. Still he could have provided good cover if he had the right weapon is his hands.
PB;
I am not surprised that your source is Pak military. They would always try to relate this to India, due to petty politics, Even Mumbai attack was linked to Pak long before they captured the terra with evidence.
BTW, hands of RAW, Pussycats are very much possible.
Sam
As I stated above, with all due respect to my Indian friends, I am glad that this didn't happen in Mumbai. Otherwise we would have been mourning by now....... This instance reminds me LTTE's attempt to take Pakistan High Commissioner Bashi Walis life in Colombo and how our Commandos gave their lives to save the HC.
Sam, no offence taken. I am in shock that this could have happened. My hearfelt thanks that the SL team players are all safe.
I will suggest that comparing the first few days in Mumbai to what happened in Lahore and Colombo is unjustified.
1. Lahore and Colombo were single strikes against one target. The attackers were in the open all through.
Mumbai was about 6-7 simultaneous attacks in different parts of the city. By the time the forces reatced the killers had mostly holed up in covered locations. Those that didn't, were taken out.
2. Lahore and Colombo were examples where the protection was provided by governments for single high value targets, and by highly trained, specialist, defence teams.
Mumbai was - initially- a case of poorly trained 'beat constables', typical in South Asia, against highly armed killers. I challenge most local constabularies, trained as they are for 'policing', to do much better.
Whether the response could have been better once the Indian special forces go into the game, can be debated.
"Ajantha Mendis could have handled the whole situation"
lol, i hd da same thought.....
bt of course as hez used to wrk with heavyguns, nxt time we can send a 130mm for thr safety. think v 'v gt alot in spare nw...
http://www.defence.lk/new.asp?fname=20090302_08
;]
xxxx
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Funny thing is, Jihadists always target Westerners; even in Mumbai they picked out US/UK passport holders.
RAW, as adventurous as it is, can only get itself around to target moda Lankans.
Chinthana4Lions,
It is absolutely hilarious. Isn't that language Kannada?
Sam Perera
Not sure what the language is , but yaaaaa so funny..heheheheehe :)
Panhinda said...
you are talking of some emotional connection which does not exist.
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emotional ? very much tangible brother when we were stuck up in jaffna with apx. 50,000 soldiers it was pakistan which sent us MBRLs in double quick time to stop the advance and they continue to do so what did india do offered ships to evacuate soldiers from jaffna how would it the balance of power if we lost the jaffna peninsula at that time
I am wondering...
LTTE coolies world over shout that Sri Lanka is unsafe and it is the worst place on earth. Then how come a claim to be Ex Terrorist who is an Economic Refugee living in London, comes to Sri Lanka and go back without any harm?
If he can safely come to Sri Lanka and go back, would he needs any further 'refugee protection' from UK?
i am personally ready to make peace with you singhalese,if you give us tamils equal rights.Otherwise you will never reach anything.Are you ready to do this? if not,the LTTE will continue the war in form of guerilla-attacks.And you know,that your army cannot win such a war.Give us the same rights you enjoy!!!! You are supressing us for decades
i am personally ready to make peace with you singhalese,if you give us tamils equal rights.Otherwise you will never reach anything.Are you ready to do this? if not,the LTTE will continue the war in form of guerilla-attacks.And you know,that your army cannot win such a war.Give us the same rights you enjoy!!!! You are supressing us for decades
CJ,
What are the Equal Rights you do not have?
OFF TPOIC (i.e. Not Cricket)
http://www.army.lk/morenews.php?id=20483
http://www.army.lk/morenews.php?id=20484
http://www.army.lk/morenews.php?id=20482
http://www.army.lk/morenews.php?id=20481
cj said...
i am personally ready to make peace with you singhalese,if you give us tamils equal
- CJ can you eloborate what equal rights mean? is it half (50%) of the country? If so you can Personally rest in peace in the jungles of Vanni.
BTW - who are these singhalese? you should at least know with whom you want to live with or make peace with.
anyone watch mangala samarasinghe on hard talk last night on BBC?
mahinda samarasinghe i mean..
TT said...
anyone watch mangala samarasinghe on hard talk last night on BBC?
No TT, I missed it, waiting for
Chinthana4Lions to give us the Youtube link tomorrow
puk batta says firing lasted 25 minutes but when i tuned into bbc in the morning (in europe) it was said that firing lasted only a couple of minutes. either puk batta is a sad die-ass-pooora trying to flame things up or was bbc mistaken in their morning news.
Ninja,
Startling discoveries from Mullative... They have been searching for CJ's lost stuff, but eventually have found those two.
CIA, LTTE, RAW, ISI all are the same. They are connected by gun running and drugs. All of them want instability of the region. One of these guys must have done it. Very interesting to hear that Pakistani captain decided not to leave with the SL team the last minutes. Was he given instructions to do so?
As an example, if they succeded in killing SL team, It would be good for the USA so that they can attack islamic militants. Same is true for Pakistani Govt. if there intention was to Attack Muslims so they can get sympathisers.
Can't discount LTTE as they can prove they are all powerful and attack from anywhere. They might not take responsibility as the attack did not succeed.
RAW because they can continue to kill muslims in Kashmir.
Would be very interesting to see who did it in the end. But we would never know who were the pupet masters who autherize this attack.
Cj
Why should you get any equal right when we are denied that. First we must tackle terrorism before we clean our own yard. So first thing first and no way any one will have any enclave to any group and that goes for our stupid nationalist too.
In am glad that the President is cutting short his visit to Nepal as the security in these countries are not reliable. We should not get involved in these fake organizations just a waste of time. We are never united and never will be for 100 years as we are stupidly tribal. That’s why India supported and trained the tigers.
With this attack to day I think that we in the island are under ATTACK BY THE MIGHTY TAMIL NADU,trying to annex us and commit GENOCIDE. Therefore I must ask my folks there to pack their bags seek refugee status in the West.
So the nearest country to us is UK,AUS,Canada,NZ and US.
CJ
[i am personally ready to make peace with you singhalese,if you give us tamils equal rights.Otherwise you will never reach anything.Are you ready to do this? if not,the LTTE will continue the war in form of guerilla-attacks.And you know,that your army cannot win such a war.Give us the same rights you enjoy!!!! You are supressing us for decades]
What about we fight. If you win, you will get your rights.
If you loose, you will be our slaves forever? Basically, your land will be taken over, your citizenship will be stripped down and you will only be given hard labor.
Wanna to take the challenge?
TT, colabathambi,
Mahinda Samarasinghe: Hardtalk- try this link.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/hardtalk/7921185.stm
Peter said:
”Almost all Indians are overjoyed about this incident. It is payback for Mumbai and a lesson to the moda Lankans who took up the tour, despite Indian displeasure.”
The real person behind Peter and his human qualities are shown clearly with the above couple of sentences.
Those who are conversing with this subhuman should reconsider their position with regards to Peter.
The saying of the day
[ Until the majority rights are given, there will no peace for LTTE Tamils.
The majority deservs the right to live without, Terrorism, discrimination, oppression, intimation, genocide by the Tamil minority. ]
JWick,
Where are you?
Been missing for days now.
Please stop pretending to be civilian and civilised and stand up directly for LTTE's Sun God given right to terrorise, genocide tamil people.
Please stop pretending to be civilian and civilised and stand up directly for LTTE's Sun God given right to terrorise, genocide tamil people.
Please stop pretending to be civilian and civilised and stand up directly for LTTE's Sun God given right to terrorise, genocide tamil people.
Please stop pretending to be civilian and civilised.
Pakistan Authorities have arrested 05 people in connection with yesterday shooting at Lahore.
Hopefully they will come up with the positive identification about those who are behind the attack on our cricketers.
The brave act of Pakistan Police personal possibly saves the lives of our cricketers. They have died while doing their duty to protect our players. We should be thankful to them and mourn the loss of precious lives.
I extend my gratitude and condolences to their family members.
Sadam husain didn't have weapons of mass distraction. But LTTP had!
http://www.army.lk/morenews.php?id=20483
At the end of the day, no matter you consider a house, a village, a city, a department, a company, a nation etc. you need a strong leader.
Sinhalese has not has the chance to establish that strong leadership until MR in the recent past.
Our leadership is still weaker when you compare with leaders like Obama.
This lack of Sinhalese leadership was the reason for Tamil uprising. If we had learned to whip the asses of trouble makers from earlier on, we wouldn't have created this mess.
From now onwards, we should make sure no minority or NGO or Western opinion dictate our governing of the nation.
Any NGOs working in Sri Lanka should be sent back to their own nations since we know none of them have helped us so far. You can see the mess they have created when you head North.
The way we govern ourselves has to come within.
If I am MR and I really care about the future of this nation, I'd start a Sri Lankan leadership institute right away.
Civilian (profile- 11784226754480920036),
Have you requested LTTE to release the civilians?
Where were you when rest of the Sri Lankans were getting attacked by LTTE?
How comes you have not wrote one word to criticise the today's Pakistani terror attack?
Stop fighting for terror, fight against terror.
Did some body notice the latest battle progress map?
it can be covered from a single lion flag now.
To see the map clearly we need to switch off those flags and other options.! :))
I'm wondering where are these bastards living now..? any idea..
with all the civilians.. armed accessories.. and with every thing...
they must be tight together.. like bunch of dumb monkeys..
Calvin-
Have you noticed that no LTTE bases any more either?
:)
Civilian:
[ri Lanka!! Please Stop The WAR
Sri Lanka!! Please Stop Killing Civilians]
You are asking to stop something we don't have. Remember, there is no war in Sri Lanka. What we have is a rescue operation.
Both government and LTTE is responsible for civilian deaths due to the nature of the operation. However government has never intentionally killed civilians, where as LTTE has.
If you can't stop your tigers, we will.
By looking at the shooting, it is clear there were no security for our team. To see a van with few police officers is absolutely appalling. Does the pakistanis think that is security?
Whoever was responsible for providing the security for the Sri Lankan team should be sent to prison with the terrorist for aiding Terrorism.
If it was not for the sheer luck, there our team would have been dead. I refuse to say thanks for the dead security guads. They did not save anyone. They were sent there to get killed by their own superiors.
Even Imran states that the security was so appalling.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/7921392.stm
Pottu,
Yeh :)) I didnt notice that...
no more...
I think army must be planning to extend the map to the whole world... or at least to India..
then they can reinstate those flashy LTTE camp buttons on Thamil Nadu, Toronto or Oslo.. :)
Calvin,
10 years time it could be in Canada / UK or some where else other than SL for sure.
After reading most of the materials related to yesterday shooting at Lahore; there is no doubt in my mind about India’s involvement in this abominable act.
It is not primarily to punish SL for undertaking the tour after India’s refusal to play with Pakistan but to discredit Pakistan government as well as deprive Pakistan Cricket Board from home series with any other countries and avenge Mumbai attacks too. They also slap SL cricket for not taking their advice not to tour Pakistan.
It is not a secret that Indian backed terrorists are operating in Pakistan soil and Pakistan backed terrorists are operating in Indian soil. The Lahore attack must be a dirty job of Indian terrorists who are operating heavily in Karachchi and Lahore. They have staged this attack carefully in such style to connect Mumbai and Lahore incidents together to discredit Pakistan.
Indians and their dirty politics are on the top again. Excellent Pakistan-Sri Lanka relation as at present is a sore thorn in Indians face and using covert operation to damage these relations could be the reason.
ananda,
from yesterday.
the theory is "you cannot make long term sustained gains from investing in another currency than you can by inesting in your currency".
so this clearly means you cannot earn very high rates by investing in rupees and then converting to $$s.
the best cause of action is NOT TO CONVERT!
this may help some ppl if they planned to invest in SLR.
DON'T DO IT!
(unless you are a more than average risk taker or plan to invest in SL long term.)
ananda, this is the crux of my argument. i hope you won't convert your $$$s, even if we disagree.
Nisal....
[Sadam husain didn't have weapons of mass distraction. But LTTP had!
http://www.army.lk/morenews.php?id=20483
]
Well observed.
Not a chance in this life for any outsider to save Tamil terrorists... when their long-term plans to cull the Sri Lankans are getting exposed.
These are truly scary scenes... and we cannot thank enough to the president for his vision and determination. In the early 2000s... I thought our only option was to 'hire' a leader on contract from the International Management Market... in order to save Sri Lanka.
Truly amazing... how the vision, mission and determination of a single individual change a course of a nation.
Look after your security and safety, Sir. Because the destination of Motherlanka… lies on your SPINE.
kasthuri,
from yesterday on, i'm waiting for BRAMAN to open his arsehole mouth.
watch out for his opinion. VITAL clues will be there. bugger is dumb enough he doesn't try to hide things either!!!
(hope he doesn't read DW!!)
gringo,
mate, i thought same.
BUT that doesn't end there.
1. what if MR dies tomorrow??
2. what should we do after he eventually dies???
from 1947 to 2005 we didn't have a LEADER of such calibre. even in 2005, we got him by a razor thin margin!!!
SL is SOOOOO vulnerable to BS leaders.
MR should IMMEDIATELY,
1. groom PLENTY of young MRs
2. change the consitution to make life miserable for a president, MPs who are not working for the betterment of the country taking him as an example
3. ban racism, seperatism, terrorism, supporting these crap
4. change the election law to filtre out these shit.
depending on BR is not going to work. his PR is VERY BAD and i doubt he will be successful in politics. he can work in the shadow of MR.
have written to THEM and talked to some many times but nothing seems to have happened. i recon patriots should bugg MR & co to seriously consider this NOW.
(and pls keep that namal idiot out of politics.)
My suspect list (based on media 'investigation').
1. RAW (possibly via hired terrorists)--50%
2. Terrorist group in PK--30%
3. LTTE (possibly via trrorist group in PK)--19%
4. Other-- 1%
Moshe...
I fully agree with you. These are extremely crucial days and any unpleasant surprise from the back door could turn the tables.
Full price for the past mistakes must be paid.
MR, in particular, has to be protected...
People stay united... and kill the Tamil terrorists like a PRIDE OF LIONS DOES... TOGETHER.
Enjoy the feast!
Ninja,
99% LTTE
1% Uncle Rana
Moshe Dyan said...
gringo,
mate, i thought same.
BUT that doesn't end there.
1. what if MR dies tomorrow??
2. what should we do after he eventually dies???
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Totally agree. It is very unlikely he will survive long. I can't beleive he is still alive. We need some one like him. Otherwise there would be a huge vacum when he is gone. Just like Rohana Wijeweera, Prabhakaran (Once he is gone). Otherwise we would be in Deep shit again. Since no one would be able to challenge MR, he should start grooming a successful leader ASAP as he has no fear of loosing his post.
Yeah, some one should publish this in one in a mainstream paper. We need to have a succession plan and we need to know who its going to be. God, please let it not be the current prime minister.
Thusitha,
What about current commander of the army as the successor to MR then?
and train young cubs to KILL by giving them the taste of the prey.
no insult to buddhism, but buddhist conduct of the ppl did hold us back for a long time from doing what we are doing today.
Moshe Dyan,
My undestanding is former politicians who were hiding behind the buddhism created and matured the cheese.
හමුදා බි්රගේඩියර්වරු 3ක් මේජර් ජෙනරාල් තනතුරට
යුද හමුදාවේ බි්රගේඩියර් තනතුරේ සිටි හමුදා නිලධාරීන් තිදෙනකු මේජර් ජෙනරාල් තනතුරුවලට උසස් කරතිබේ.
මේජර් ජෙනරාල් කමල් ගුණරත්න මේජර් ජෙනරාල් මනෝ පෙරේරා සහ මේජර ජෙනරාල් නන්දන උඩවත්ත එසේ උසස්වීම් ලැබුවෝ වෙති. මේජර් ජෙනරාල් කමල් ගුණරත්න 53 බලසේනාංකාධිපති වශයෙන් උතුරේ මානුෂීය මෙහෙයුමේ යෙදි සිටියි. දැනට පුදුකුඩිඉරිප්පු ප්රදේශය අත්පත් කර ගැනීමේ අවසන් සටන මෙහෙයවයි.
මේජර් ජෙනරාල් නන්දන උඩවත්ත 59 වෙනි බලසේනාංකාධිපති වශයෙන් උතුරේ මානුෂීය මෙහෙයුමේ යෙදී සිටියි. වැලිඔය ප්රදේශයෙන් උතුරේ මානුෂීය මෙහෙයුමට සම්බන්ධ වී දුෂ්කර ගමනක යෙදී මුලතිව් ප්රදේශය අත්පත් කර ගැනීමේ විජයග්රහණය කිරීමට 59 බළ සේනාංකය මෙහෙයවූයේ මේජර් ජෙනරාල් නන්දන උඩවත්තය.
52 බලසේනාංකාධිපති වශයෙන් කටයුතු කළ මේජර් ජෙනරාල් මනෝ පෙරේරා පසුව බස්නාහිර පළාත් ආඥාපතිවරයා ලෙස කටයුතු කරගෙන යයි.
- දිනමිණ 04/03/09
Pottu said...
Thusitha,
What about current commander of the army as the successor to MR then?
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Thusitha said...
Definitely not.
No one from the military. The person should be a good politician but with good connection to the army and a patriot, who doesn't bend down to international pressure. Having a good legal mind helps, because we need lot of bridge building to do after this war.
Thusitha said...
Definitely not.
No one from the military. The person should be a good politician but with good connection to the army and a patriot, who doesn't bend down to international pressure.
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Out of the qualifications you have given,
good connection to the army and a patriot, who doesn't bend down to international pressure - Already there
good politician - Well.. well well... let me know when you find one any where in the world.
Let's hope MR will be with us with out thinking too far ahead. That will help us to sort out the current issues and walk together.
/no insult to buddhism, but buddhist conduct of the ppl did hold us back for a long time from doing what we are doing today./
Sinhalese Buddhists didn't have any problem protecting the motherland for 2000 years; from King Dutugamunu to Weera Puran Appu.
After British era, with Olcott a new stream of buddhists (Olcott buddhists) emerged with knowledge of English language, western culture and science and they were in 'high' level social status. It is these people (and now most of them are marxists or 'former' marxists..listen to the guy at the end of yesterday NSD clip..) who oppose war saying buddhits can't kill. Vast majority of other buddhists (sinhala buddhists) do have common sense and also know buddhism.
Pottu said...
good politician - Well.. well well... let me know when you find one any where in the world.
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When I said good politician, I exactly meant a good politician. I didn't mean to say a good person. It is imposible for a politicians to stick to ideology or principals. That is his profession.
Moshe,
You haven’t seen it yet?
B. Raman already accused Harkat-ul-Mujahideen (HUM) for the attack. He is trying to white wash Indians.
Click Here
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The US was allowed to open a Voice of America station in Sri Lanka in 1980 and was believed to be interested in a Navy base at Trincomalee, due to an uncertain situation in the Phillipines. Meanwhile Tamil Nadu had become a stronghold for LTTE guerilla support and training in India, while Sri Lanka turned to Israel, Pakistan and South America for arms and training. Israel was even reported to have opened a Special Interests office within the US Embassy. Many of the world’s nuclear and military powers had convened in Sri Lanka and India’s doorstep.
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http://www.flashpoints.info/CB-Sri%20Lanka.htm
How come the brigadiers from the divisions from 53rd and 59th are promoted to Major generals while no promotions to the commanders of the 57 th and 58th who did most of the spade work are ignored? this is unfair.
Bottom line - SL cannot afford to make Indians insecure. They have a gigantic task keeping country of 1 billion in shape without breaking up. SL foreign policy has been like bull in a china shop. you just cannot afford to carry on like this.
KamalG is 53 commander. NandanaU had to get his promotion, he went all the way to Mullathiv and I think a senior guy. I think 55 commander PrasannaS and 58 commander ShavindraS are young guys but still get promoted soon.
Panhinda,
Muchun india never,I repeat never had the best interests of SL in their foreign policy agenda...
It's called the "Nehru doctrine"..
Any country in the south asia that might rise up/become prosperous in their own right and will not tow their line is considered a threat and they'll intervene through RAW and proxies...
this is exactly what happened in the 80's....
Sri Lanka had implemented free market principles and our country was blooming....
Indira did not like it...
Especially as india was under USSR shere of influence and a stagnant/closed economy...
that's why she jumped at the chance to fund,train tigers and co. to destabalise our country...
Pahinda
VOA had a relay station in Ekkala where I visited briefly in 1965.If what you are saying is true it may benefit SL with a safety net but having that in Trico might complicate matters as they being foreigners might be tempted to feel sorry for ‘suffering minorities’ and employ them. The Christian missionaries too genuinely fell for this trap and I know few here who now realizes that these minorities have taken them for a ride. This is the reason why most of the foreign Embassies employ them but they don’t understand they are hurting the local majority when contracts and employment are not fairly distributed Philippines have immensely benefitted by these bases in Subic bay and Clark’s AB resulting in may Philippines getting residency in US.I was told San Diego is full of them, one time employee at these bases.JVP might oppose this.
Panhinda,
I agree with you fully. UK and USA will never come to former glory again. China and India is the best as our allies.
We must make sure that we don’t antagonise India but manure tactfully without giving in.
and talk about reaping what you sow, chickens coming to roost and good old Karma.....
the woman and her son who was foolish enough to promote mom's agenda got it good from the beast it fed and nurtured....
So I say, to kow tow to India,worry about offending them with our foreign policy directives is a waste.....
we have to align with any country...be it china,US ,Pakistan... to give us leverage over India....
india has never been a honest broker to her neighbours...
don't see any change in her ways now...
doubt if ever will...
jack1234,
it wasn't a fear free market per se, but fear of US taking a foothold in the Indian underbelly. Had there been no cold war and no socialist-capitalist friction, they probably would not have interfered wehn we made ties with US.
VoA they suspected could be used for spying on their southern nuclear and defense facilities.
This is the same reason they refused us acquiring 3D radar from China.
They also had a fear US will establish a base in Trinco.
I havent yet seen any credible evidence to suggest India does not want SL to economically progress. But when InfoSys guy pulled out I began to suspect there was something there.
Got a can of Fosters in my hand...
this is for safe return of our brave troops who took PTK junction...
We owe them big,I mean Big time...
I suggest other than a housing scheme a GI bill sort of scholarship program to the soldiers..
as most of them are barely into their 20's....
It did wonders for the troops that came back from the WW II ...
Panhinda,
Muchun I say India is not agianst us economically progressing per se...
It's just that stronger we are as a country economically, more assertive we are foreign policy wise....
That I bet my bottom dollar India can not stomach...
they will mess with that any given time....
This I am pretty convinced of..
/no insult to buddhism, but buddhist conduct of the ppl did hold us back for a long time from doing what we are doing today./
This is partly true. Tamils have been told to seek shelter with Buddhists whenever they are in trouble. This was specially true in the Middle East.
When I asked about that from a Tamil lady married to a Sinhalese whether it is true or not, she confirmed.
She said Jaffna Tamils are the most opportunists (she was from Jaffna) than Eastern Tamil who's heart is bit warmer.
So my fellow friends, don't take Buddhism out of your house.
kevin, kastury,
reason foreign embassy prefer minorities is probably becos they are tri-lingual.
on the account of Indians taking locals for a ride, I think they made good poodles out of moda Jaffna folks in 1980 and they took idiotic Sinhala JVP for a ride also in 1971 I strongly suspect.
The fact that it took us this long to crack the code on how to defeat the LTTE has in my humble opinion nothing to do with us being a majority buddhist country....
Religion hardly,if at all is a factor...
what we lacked is astute and courageous political leaders and capable military commanders to come together for a common purpose(defeat LTTE)..
this did not happen until MR and SF crossed paths...
Think if Gen. Kobbakaduwa had the same courageous political masters..
we would have squished this fuckers long time ago....
the US declared "War on terror" foreign/defence policy helped us now as well...
But religion ... nah...
remember our Buddhist monks have been the most vociferous critics of the LTTE from the very begining...
That explains why LTTE butchered so many of our monks..
I think US doesn’t need VOA to spy on India as there are much better methods available to them. They might want Trinco as the future threat to them might come in the Middle East, Iran Afghanistan and even Pakistan.Trinco is at an ideal distance for their operations. I doubt that US will ever fall behind countries like China and India or even Russia as their infrastructure and mainly educational institutions so well established will keep them ahead of others and with the defeat of our labour government this time might put UK back to it former self. I can vouch for UK’s ability given the correct party at the helm.
Jack1234,
Prabhakaran's stupidity also helped.
1. assassination of Rajiv
2. Killing of childhood friend mahattaya
3. Investigation on Karauna’s corruption leading him to cross over.
4. Killing and harassing his own people.
5. No knowing when to stop.
kasthuri,
thanx. didn't i say so!!
guys,
this is STRANGE. such a fcuking coincident!!
just look at BRAMAN's article.
"Hum- Re-Pays An Old Debt To LTTE In Lahore
Monday, March 2, 2009 Leave a Comment
by B Raman"
did you notice it??
wow!
the incident took place on 3rd but BRAMAN wrote it on the 2nd. (i know there is a misprint but look at the coincident. besides he without any investigation knows who did it!!!)
this is like musharaf's telephone call to bush on 11/09/01 @ 7 a.m. US eastern time.
mush: i'm so sorry about the sad thing that happened today. all those ppl and buildings!!
bush: what buldings? what ppl?
mush: it is night time here. what's the time there??
bush: it is 7 in the morning.
mush: oh!! i'm sooo sorry. will call you later.
jack
It took us that long since we did not have the backbone to go after Terrorists. We were lead to believe that there can be only a political solution and no other leader had the spine to totally declare the war against them. Remember, since were were depending on foreign aid, we were not allowed to buy weapons to kill Terrorists.
We were told negotiate, negotiate negotiate.
Some of the politicians used LTTE to cover up their inability to govern as well.
The Sinhalese who ruled Sri Lanka prior to MR was not quite Sinhalese enough to declare a war against LTTE.
They never wanted to mess up the relationships with Tamils who never cared about Sinhalese.
Even today some of the Sinhalese don't have the backbone to express themselves really fearing they will be called a Racist.
Kasthuri said,
Jack1234,
Prabhakaran's stupidity also helped.
1. assassination of Rajiv
2. Killing of childhood friend mahattaya
3. Investigation on Karauna’s corruption leading him to cross over.
4. Killing and harassing his own people.
5. No knowing when to stop."
very true Kasthuri,
But Mahatthayas's importance has been over stated and exaggerated over the years I reckon...
The North/east split that resulted due to Karuna defection is the most crucial event as that took out of the equation about 6000 plus cadres and the need to put couple of divisions into eastern thetre to keep the calm...
otherwise we would not hit Killi for another 6 months to a year i say...
ReallyCold.....
the kind of spineless sinhalese you mentioned( the NGO affiliated/urban and snobbish) namely the UNP is all but a spent force....
all the better....
I'll add CBK regime to that list as well....
ninja and jack,
it was only one reason, a small one. obviously, believing LTTE cooked-up BULLSHIT was the MAIN reason followed by incompetency.
JRJ's "beliefs" led him to cut down the move by a great lankan thinker to produce guns and bullets in SL. would have been fcuking good for a start.
ppl generally hate killing no matter what the reason is. the death penalty was scrapped by SWORD's "beliefs". gradually the severity of punishment also followed a downward trend.
all our leaders tried really hard to sort things out peacefully even when LTTE showed no compassion.
etc, etc.
other societies with different "beliefs" were VERY quick to use extreme violence.
Jack1234,
Mahattaya was very popular figure among senior cadres of LTTE prior to his demis. He was the deputy leader and had over 500 loyalists. Most of them were systematically eliminated by Prbhakaran after killing mahattaya.
That is the starting point of disintegration of LTTE. After mahattaya’s demis only Karuna became deputy to Prabha and given full control over eastern region. This corrupted Karuna beyond his responsibilities and defected just before, he got killed by LTTE.
So Karuna’s defection and loss of eastern region is initiated by mahattaya killing. Even Anton Balasingham and his wife Adele tried to stop Prabha from killing mahattaya but failed.
SLA got good intelligence and material support from mahattaya and Karuna loyalists
Jack
Of cause.
We have been lead to believe White man is the master and follow their directions without any questions.
It takes some time to build the national confidence. The family and dirty politics prevented us from becoming very effective as a nation. It is happening right now too if you look at how many relatives of MR is around.
Neru in India had the vision to build that National Confidence through education and IIT is the result.
it was not quite karuna's split that helped us but HOW we used it.
if RW ponnaya was there he would have killed them all just to please the LTTE. in fact there was a clause in the CFA to disarm "para-military" groups. LTTE named TMVp as a paramilitary group.
A bit About R Premadasa and what he did; you decide who he was
In 1989 elections, R Premadasa became the second executive president of Sri Lanka. Soon after popular and able Lalith Athulathmudali amd Ganini Dissanayake was side lined and Ranjan wijeratne and Sirisena cooray were given high portfolios by the president.
He also overlooked Lalith and Gamini to appoint inert Wijethunga as the prime minister. On March 2, 1991, the Deputy Minister of Defence and the General Secretary of the UNP, Ranjan Wijeratne, was killed by a LTTE suicide bomber.
Plotting with the assassination of Lieutenant-General Denzil Kobbekaduwa, the secret transfer of weapons to the Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam (LTTE) by President Premadasa were not secrets to the sub sequent commission of inquiry. Also, the evidence given by the army deserter turned witness Wisva Kumara has been extensively discussed in dealing with the Commission of Inquiry into the assassination of Kobbekaduwa and nine others at Araly Pont, Kayts on August 8, 1992.
The commission also found that superior officers of the army, Special Task Force (STF) and persons who held executive and administrative positions in Premadasa's government, namely General Sepala Attyagalle, Secretary of Defense, K H J Wijedasa, Secretary to the President, Brigadier Bohoran of the army, Lionel Karunasena and Sahabandhu and Commandant and the Deputy Commandant of the STF and a host of other officers have all admitted and confirmed both in their testimony of the witness Wisva Kumara, to the fact that arms and ammunition, including 6mm RPG guns, mortars, self loading rifles, 400, T81 automatic rifles, T56 automatic rifles, pistols, hand grenades, ammunition and equipment for all communications sets etc and other components of modern warfare were given to the LTTE.
Tear gas rifles, tear gas, signal flames, pistols, finger cups, etc and hand-held integrated circuits, SG 700 car antennas, video cassettes, boot mounts, tilting boot mounts pipe mounts etc were also passed on. Furthermore, the LTTE ordered the import of numerous items, such as well drilling machines, radios, cables, mobile sets, head phones, microphones, batteries, amplifiers and water purification tablets which were imported and addressed to Defence Secretary General Sepala Attyagala, c/o A S Balasingham of the LTTE. The duty on these imported items was paid by the Defence Ministry.
Money was also secretly given to the LTTE in 1989 and in 1990. Weapons were given from Government stocks, from armouries, specially imported for the purpose of usage of the air force, army, navy and STF on the orders of the President, ostensibly to crush the Tamil National Army, thought to be fostered by the Indian Peace Keeping Force (IPKF), and through that the IPKF was able to read the intentions and the signals of the Sri Lankan Government and would leave the country.
On 11 June 1990, the LTTE surrounded the police stations in the Batticaloa and Amparai police divisions and asked the police to surrender and they would transport them to Amparai. The Government asked the police to act with restraint. Some police officers were prepared to hold their positions and fight and requested Artillery and Air support. Later that day IGP (Inspector General Police) informed that such a support was not available. The police were asked to surrender. They did so believing that they would be transported to Sinhala areas. In some stations LTTE opened fire and police officers were killed.
The LTTE entered all stations breaking open the gates and fences, broke open the armories and took all weapons and ammunitions. In the Amparai district the police officers were herded into vehicles and then taken to Kanchikudicahiaru jungles and shot dead.
Meantime, Luxman Perera, Member of the Municipal Council (MMC) wrote a play using the title "Me -Kawuda – Karanne Monawada?" (Who is he - What is he doing?).
Luxman Perera's drama was meant to be a satire on the Premadasa's administration. Luxman Perera joined hands with journalist and media man Richard Soyza.
A few days before the first performance of the drama, a van without a number plate arrived at Luxman's home at night and took him away. He disappeared. He was presumed dead. It was rumoured that Senior Superintendent of Police (SSP) Ronnie Gunasinghe was responsible for the abduction and murder of Luxman and Richard Soysa.
On August 30, 1991, Athulathmudali, Premachandra and Gamini Dissanayake were sacked from the UNP by the Working Committee of the Party to get killed later by either LTTE or our own gangs sponsored by the state.
Moshe Dyan,
In that case muchun I'll remove CBK from the guilty list....
MR wouldn't have propped up unless CBK had dissolved the UNP cabinet and called snap elections....
yup, CBK all is forgiven...
Patriots,
Here is a fun activity all of you chaps. Open the current Eelam map on defence.lk and click the button that says 'On LTTE Bases'. It pops up saying 'No Bases'. Jolly good show, eh?
Cheers!
jack,
"MR wouldn't have propped up unless CBK had dissolved the UNP cabinet and called snap elections...."
mate, have to disagree.
MR was the opposition leader by majority PA vote. JVP had no choice but join with the PA.
had the parliament not dissolved, things would have been VERY easy for MR. he would be the SLFP candidate backed by the JVP in 2005. it would have been after the tsunami, karuna-prabha fun times, massive fuel price hikes, etc. which would have been shit for the UNP.
i speculate in that event MR should have won with close to 60% vote and immediately dissolved the parliament and got a strong govt too.
the greed of the UNP in 2001 costed them the 2005 election and the greed of SLFP in 2004 costed them a strong parliament and almost the 2005 election.
Really Cold
‘We have been lead to believe White man is the master and follow their directions without any questions.’
I beg to differ from you on this above statement.
During all my education up to the Uni and now where my job in technology all the terms, units of measurements and all other well known inventions, terminology seems to have come from the West except for basic algebra that seems to have come the near East, not forgetting Vedic Maths that had come from India perhaps zero was discovered by the Dravidian race which they call zoiber.
Because these people seems to be progressive and advanced that our leaders, our people seems to send their children there. China and Japan seems to imitate the people here and build and refine on the discoveries made here. May be in future we in the East might lead them and for that we must change our mindset and culture and even religion that impede progress. Latter problem mildly exist in the West with the fundamentalist Christians that oppose stem cell research and the Catholic Church that still oppose contraceptives etc.
Fracster said yesterday after Lahore incident:
news just in >>>>> Jehan Mubark is the main suspect @ the moment :) ISI just spoke to gotta..and Mubark has switched off his mobile
Does anybody have any idea about this! I can’t understand what he meant and is waiting to see more info on this.
Kasthuri you're not serious, right mate?
Jack1234,
Not in my wildest dreams mate!
I never believed it, in the first place. Just checking whether there is further build-up on that.
My South Indian friends often said that we can’t rely on India, given them a choice
They will side with Tamil Nadu at the expense of SL,because unity of India matters more. Therefore we must reach to TN politicians and make them respect out sovereignty and the Diaspora tigers will exploit this factor which is the India’s weak point. Some in this blog said that we must make better weapons etc which I think is pointless.
As the terrorist Expert Rohan Gunaratne said we must bring religious and racial harmony where every minority feel safe and fairly treated and create legislation to punish the nationalist bigots among us who are intolerant to others. This will be a big problem for the island for generations to come and I don’t see any light in the tunnel when the President who is fighting to eradicate the terrorists in the North while terrorists close to him like Mervin is still in business. We don’t feel safe and secured with them around and I can’t Imagine how the minorities and other citizens feel. To be just and fair does not cost money but the will power of the people at the top.
Kevin,
As the terrorist Expert Rohan Gunaratne said we must bring religious and racial harmony where every minority feel safe and fairly treated and create legislation to punish the nationalist bigots among us who are intolerant to others. This will be a big problem for the island for generations to come and I don’t see any light in the tunnel when the President who is fighting to eradicate the terrorists in the North while terrorists close to him like Mervin is still in business.
We have a say in Sri Lanka:
කාගෙ කාගෙත් කිල්ලොට වල හුනු ටික ටික තියෙනව කියලා
So, Mahinda Rajapakshe is not exceptional in some areas.
Kasthuri,
"Those who are conversing with this subhuman should reconsider their position with regards to Peter."
We already know all about Peter and his journey to Sri Lanka to find his lost aunty. He is trying to get us upset, but if you think about it there's no need. Cricket players were slightly hurt but none were seriously injured or killed- no harm was really done and there was no "lesson for moda Lanka" for participating in the match. If the Paks want another match on their turf, we'll give them a good one.
Peter and his fellow travelers on the other hand are hopefully learning a far more fundamental lesson on the foolishness of starting a war that cannot be won. Hopefully he will explain to us why no one in the world is paying attention to the "genocide" in the Vanni- not even with these TN & diaspora halfwits barbecuing themselves (there's another question for Pete to answer- why nobody in Tamileelam is setting themselves on fire?).
Alas, it would be too much to expect Pete to generate the modicum of intellect to figure that out. A Sivaram he is truly not (and it is only now that I realize what a crime we committed by getting rid of Taraki).
The equal rights for tamils has to come from Tamils. The caste system in Tamils is the one that is depriving the rights of the tamil massess.
Second is willingness to give what you ask for (or what you already get). While Tamils live in Colombo, kandy and Galle and study in Colombo schools and in uiversities, and conduct business, the Sinahalese and Muslims should have the ability to do the same in Jaffna and Mullathivu.
We Sinahalese have always given and continue to give all communities equal rights. But we cannot give parts of this country to satisfy statehood dreams of any other community or any ethinic group.
"have written to THEM and talked to some many times but nothing seems to have happened. i recon patriots should bugg MR & co to seriously consider this NOW."
Awww.. again nobody in SL is paying any attention to Mushe's insightful emails. Now he's calling for us to "bugg" Mahinda to take him seriously. I'll send an email of my own if Mushe promises to grow up a little.
Mahinda is wise enough not to pay attention to Mushe, but he is not the architect of Sri Lanka's victory. That credit goes to Gotabhaya and Sarath Fonseka- if Mahinda did not have these two, he would not have achieved the current victory and Sri Lanka would be in a real mess.
The proof for this will be demonstrated after the war is won and Mahinda will have to deal with running the country without a war or the LTTE to occupy people's attention.
For the 2 days the Pakistan Team and the Sri Lankan Team went for training together. However on the third day or the day of the attack, the pakistan team said they would join later. How come your pakistani brothers are willing to scarifice your buddisht lives to safeguard their own arses.
It looks like its another crushing and humuliating defeat for Mahindha. He prostituted your cricket players so that he will get favours and weapons from Pakistan. Today they are suffering because of this.
Prabha likes cricket as it is rumoured. The LTTE till today has used the cricket match times to launch attacks but never attacked the team. Its so much easier in Sri Lanka to do so then in Pakistan.
Even B.Raman is trying to put a spin that the LTTE might have used their pakistani accuqantence for this. His spin also comes out almost immediately. Hence it may actually be a plan to immediately draw attention away from RAW. The sad bad is after being humuliated by the LTTE by not adhering to the battle plans he laid out, he know feels he needs revenge. Unfortunately he forgot the new zeeland team was attacked in pakistan 3 years ago and they were lucky they were in the hotel when the suicde bomber went off.
It serves Indian dual purpose to potray pakistan as a terrorist state and also justify why the Indian team should not go there.
Hum Re-Pays An Old Debt To LTTE In Lahore?
http://www.southasiaanalysis.org/papers31/paper3081.html
Regardless of the Indian involvement, its obvious that the Sri Lankan team was choosen by the pakistanis because, one you are insignifcant as a country, secondly the dead would generally be buddisht who are non hindu and no muslim. Hence who cares if they die in south asia except for your people of course.
The outcome of this action would also come as a warning for the sri lankan goverment and its people.
This also brings me to a point of the LTTE under Prabha brought about by Puligal blogspot. If the LTTE is not sole represntative of the tamils, then self imotalaitation overseas could easily turn into attacks against sri lankan entities overseas. This would be unabated and uncontrolled.
As much as the people of eelam get killed, raped and humuliated on a daily basis by the government of sri lanka, i do not think that since colonial rule, regardless of the differences, sports has always been a uniting factor. People of both countries have often forgotten their national differences when they play for their schools etc. In the years following eelam's independnece it would be good for both countries unlike india and pakistan to behave civily and conduct their "cold wars" on the cricket pitch or rugby feild.
Many Sri Lankan Tamils giving up on country
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jU_MxtpKJfuRnJVhDFoXaWnKeYhAD96MG7U00
Privacy Goes Public in Sri Lanka
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/03/02/AR2009030202399.html?hpid=artslot
with equal rights must come equal responsibilities.
the problem is lacking responsibilities especially from tamils towards SL.
the other tricky thing is equal rights should be for each individual (not community). so obviously a larger community will have more rights than a smaller community. this is normal.
SL should seriously consider cutting down rights of those who cannot bear responsibility. in other words giving all the rights to an irresponsible person is dangerous.
e.g. seperatists may not have the right to contest elections
e.g. terrorists may not have the right to life!!!
good night guys!!
catch you folks later tomo...
Wijayapala,
Your post make me go back a while:
"It is now generally accepted that the conduct of modern warfare is not only about troops, weapons, generals and battlefields - it is also about perceptions. The manner in which a war is perceived by states and their populations today can have a strategic impact on its conduct. Real time images of a battlefield, flashed round the world can shape strategic decisions about the war and the mindset of one's strategic allies. For many years, the role of media as an indispensable component of modern war making has been conceptualized and discussed in military journals and symposia as the "CNN effect. Analyses in LTTE journals and the tenor and content of discussions that Pirapaharan has had with some foreign media consultants in recent years clearly indicate that the Tigers have been making an extensive study of the "CNN effect". .."
CNN – Cable Network News
Dharmaratnam Sivaram aka Taraki (1959-2005), above is tribute to him.
Thanks for mentioning him again, a great writer who met his untimely death due to his writings.
navindran,
"In the years following eelam's independnece it would be good for both countries unlike india and pakistan to behave civily and conduct their "cold wars" on the cricket pitch or rugby feild."
very sorry mate. in that event it is rather better to wage open war with frequent mass killings, etc, etc, etc.
if you expect anything else, you are a fool. it will be like israel and palestine. or india and pakistan. or south korea and north korea. or even ethiopia and somalia!!!
Kasthuri
What you are written about Premadasa is interesting and we will read in the morning.
Before I sign off to work I have a joke about Premadasa that was going around the hill capital. It goes like this.
A kattadiya had said to Premadasa that his job will be taken by a person named Wije,having sleepless nights he began to look for this wije.
First he thought it could be Upali Wijewardena and he was dealt with.
Still the Kattadiya was saying this wije would take over his job then he began to look again and got rid of Wije kumaratunge,still the Kattadiyya was still going on of this wije and he started looking for this Wije and he thought he found that person in Wijeweera and he was history, but eventually when he was killed by the terrorists and he was succeeded by Wijethunge.
Contrary to what you guys says only brave politicians during that time were DB Wijethunge who unleashed the army under Algama and the STF on the terrorist in the East,Almost wiping them out.Ranjan too was brave enough call them terrorist and ordered them to lay down the arms, but Premadasa was not brave enough to call the people who murdered people terrorists and when his friend Thevis Guruge was killed he referred to the killers as unknown people, never referred to them as terrorists. I was there right through defending my plantation and business where I lost respect to our people or authorities who were cowards where a little chit by a kid was enough to close the houses, shops and even Police stations and I am grateful to the JVP to highlighting this weakness as I had the privilege to talk about it with Denzil who was at that time was in a camp in Polonnaruwa.
Kasthuri,
"After mahattaya’s demis only Karuna became deputy to Prabha and given full control over eastern region."
This is not exactly true- Karuna had been the Batticaloa/Ampara commander since 1987, he was the longest-serving LTTE district commander. He functioned quite independently from Mahattaya, the Vanni district commander who rose to prominence after Kittu left the scene.
Karuna was never appointed as Thalaivar's deputy. That position remained vacant after Mahattaya was deposed and executed. Arguably, Karuna was Thalaivar's unofficial deputy because of the clout he wielded (demonstrated by his participation in the "peace process").
Things went wrong after Vanni flunkies like Pottu Amman, Nadesan, and Thamilenthi got jealous of Karuna's independence and tried to centralize things. They called him to task for corruption, truly a joke given how the obese poruppalars (LTTE commissars) skimmed from the "liberation struggle," and the rest is history.
Same thing happened incidentally with KP, the LTTE's arms broker. KP's operation was incredibly crooked with him pocketing a lot of Peter's life savings (should have saved that for aunty), but like Karuna KP got the job done and that is what should have mattered. Sadly, Thamilselvan and Castro would have none of this and stripped the poor sod of his responsibilities, leading to all those arrests in the US, UK, and France and episodes like the Jeyadevan story.
"A bit About R Premadasa and what he did; you decide who he was"
Premadasa for all his faults got the Indians out of Sri Lanka, just as Mahinda (thanks to Gota) is getting the LTTE out. We all hate Premadasa largely for things that happened after the IPKF left- at the time, helping the LTTE fight the Indian invader appeared to be a good idea. Similarly Mahinda's legacy will probably be more determined by what he does after the LTTE departs and other issues take priority.
Wijepala
You seems to know so much about the tiger set up and I wonder you are an ex tiger,a friend of Jayadevan?
Seem a happy day for diASSpora... despite the testicle withdrawal from PTK..
/Navindran said...
For the 2 days the Pakistan Team and the Sri Lankan Team went for training together. However on the third day or the day of the attack, the pakistan team said they would join later. How come your pakistani brothers are willing to scarifice your buddisht lives to safeguard their own arses./
/Pakistan's cricketers came within a whisker of being caught up in the terrorist attack in Lahore this morning and owed their near-miss to a last-minute change of plan, according to the team's coach. Intikhab Alam said that the captain, Younis Khan, decided not to leave for the stadium at the same time as the Sri Lankans as they had previously.
According to Alam, both teams usually departed together at about 8:40am, but that did not happen this morning. "The Sri Lankans decided to leave five minutes early today and our captain had decided we would go separately," he said.
Alam said that the Pakistani players only came to know about the attack when they reached the nearby Mall road. They immediately returned to the hotel. "It was a terrifying incident and we sat down together worried about the Sri Lankan players' safety," he said. "We have been in touch with the Sri Lankan players and officials and we have done our best to show them our support."
He added that it was a black day in the history of Pakistan cricket, but insisted that the Pakistan Cricket Board should continue to try to convince other international teams that it was safe to tour the country.
"This could have happened anywhere in the world but we need to continue our efforts to convince teams it is safe to come and play in our country," he said.
A senior Pakistan board official has urged the international cricket community not to isolate the country following the attack. "I will only say what happened today is a great tragedy," the Pakistan Cricket Board's director of human resources, Wasim Bari, said.
"But at a time when terrorist attacks are taking place all over the world, Pakistan cricket should not be abandoned or isolated."
The former Test captain said he was greatly encouraged by statements coming out of Sri Lanka that they did not regret visiting Pakistan for the Test series and urged support rather than rejection.
"It is very easy now to just say 'let's stop going to Pakistan'," he added. "But we need the support of the international cricket community. We can still hold international matches. Terrorists have tried to hit cricket targets in other countries as well."/
http://english.people.com.cn/90001/90777/90852/6605523.html
To Aticus Finch,
Please check your af....@yahoo.com mails.
Send you a SOS!
Wijayapala,
This is not exactly true- Karuna had been the Batticaloa/Ampara commander since 1987,
According to my recollection LTTE was not established in East long after 1987. Correct me if I am wrong.
He functioned quite independently from Mahattaya, the Vanni district commander who rose to prominence after Kittu left the scene.
Agree….
Karuna was never appointed as Thalaivar's deputy.
However, Karuna was given a free hand in east until finance division of LTTE audited him and found out about missing LKR 50 million.
We all hate Premadasa largely for things that happened after the IPKF left- at the time, helping the LTTE fight the Indian invader appeared to be a good idea.
This was the worst idea, he should have let IPKF to finish the job by killing VP and his clan instead RP gave them rebirth with weapons and money.
kevin,
vesa-pala is a PRESENT tamil elamist. not an ex.
bugger got arse raped here by bloggers, left the blog and now returned to fool unsuspecting new bloggers.
NEVER expect anything patriotic from him!!!
Couldnt find a stronger word that Gruesome to describe the happenings in Lahore yesterday.Thank God all the cricketer's are safe.
Was glued to the TV all day long as all the channels showed clips of gunmen firing \ moving positions etc
Lots of conspiracy theories doing the round and Pakistan will have to get to the bottom of this incident to get the facts out.
3 suspects immediately come to mind in the aftermath of this incident.
1>Rogue elements in Pak's defence services - ISI or the Army who want to fish in troubled waters
2>Indian angle - India wanting to expose to the world about Pakistan and also sour the relations between Pak and GoSL
3>LTTE using its connection with Pak based outfits to strike at the willpower of GoSL \ Taliban based militia striking.
In my opinion the First and Second options,dont hold much ground.
Because,
1>Armed forces want to use the existing political turmoil in Pak.In anycase,it appears soon the military will take charge in Pak.They wouldnt have wanted such a controversy now.Entire World is looking at Pakistan with lots of worry and that is something the military establishment could have done away with.God forbidden,had something serious happened to any of the cricketers,Pakistan would have paid a very very heavy price for it.
2>Indian connection - India or RAW should be completely dumb to carry out a operation of such magnitude in Pakistan.India has completely tightened the screws on Pakistan diplomatically post 26/11.Why should India do anything that would release the pressure on Pakistan or make it fall from its high ground.People can argue it was a revenge operation.But definitely not on a High profile target like the Sri cricket team.The ramifications would have been too much had something gone wrong.Getting one guy like India did with Kasab and then India would have to dance to Pak's tunes just like Pak did now.More importantly the isolation that Pak faces in IC post 26/11 would have been turned back.India moved its cards very well to get Pak into the current position in IC.Why would they present a opppurtunity on a Golden platter to make Pak escape from it?
3>The third suspect are the Tigers\Taliban backed militia.One thing that struck me immediately as soon as the clippings came on TV yesterday was "These guys are not shooting to Kill".They were at very close range and had grenade's,RPG's and 2 cars laden with explosives.12 of them on a Fidayeeen attack could wreck havoc.But it was not the case.Their intentions clrealy seemed to take hostages ala the Munich Olympics scenario.Luckily for Srilankan team,their bus driver was alert enough and that saved them.Again,was it done by LTTE or was it done by the numerous Taliban backed militia we have to wait to know.But taking hostages would have meant the Pak govt would have bent over backwards to get them released.A hostage situation could have helped the Tiger's as well.But if this situation is true,then the ISI definitely would be fuming just like RAW did in the early 90's.For rogue they maybe,but ISI would never do something that would damage Pak in the IC.
The worrying point is 12 of those attackers went scot free after being in the public \ media glare for 15 long minutes.Thats pathetic and so is the security given to the Srilankan cricket team.Moreover this incident occured even after the route to Gaddafi stadium was changed in the morning.Pak has lot of questions to answer and hope they conduct a thorough investigation to get the cowards who launched these attacks.
Moshe,
Strange enough B. Raman's article about HUM being responsible for Lahore incident gone missing. Wrong date may be the reason.
It seems the date 2nd of March is not a mistake. May be he has written it (night of 2nd March) actually before the incident and posted after the incident with correct date.
The Pakistani driver Mehar Mohammad Khalil needs to be recognized for having the presence of mind to keep driving despite the tires being shot-up. Several bus drivers in Sri Lanka have done the same thing while under LTTE attack.
Kevin,
"You seems to know so much about the tiger set up and I wonder you are an ex tiger,a friend of Jayadevan?"
No to both- I just read a lot and connect the dots. I know more about the LTTE and Tamil militancy than any LTTE supporter I've come across. I've had to correct Peter's poor grasp of Tamil history a number of times.
"vesa-pala is a PRESENT tamil elamist. not an ex."
I see that your comment had gotten Mushe's blood pressure up. Hope nothing bad happens.
BBC fuckers and ICRC back to their old tricks again
The International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC) has warned of an impending humanitarian catastrophe in north-eastern Sri Lanka.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/7922096.stm
The ICRC has been lobbying European governments to exert pressure to improve the humanitarian situation, as the long and bloody struggle for Sri Lanka moves into a decisive phase.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/7922096.stm
It is very difficult to analyse the Indian factor in SL.Because of the Tamil Nadu politics and our terrorists’ influence with TN politicians. To be at peace with TN where Mrs Nehru had much support for congress party in TN she was compelled to allow the tigers to be given facilities there.
I remember the day we sat at the VIP table with General Artygalle at a function in London where a high official of the Indian govt invited himself to the function where one of our mates tagged along with me to listen to him as there was a general concern about the Parripu drop. I think he was from the RAW. He explained to us the obligation the central govt had to TN politics and he seems to appreciate Gamini Dissanayake like Ranil he seems to shuttle back and forth with Delhi. I think they realized the predicament of the Indian Central govt and it implication on us.
This special relationship was noted when Rajiv visited Colombo where at a presentation of guests to him he shook hands with all the guests in line that includes Gamini Dissanayake and after passing him he comeback and again shook his hand and pattered him at the back as if he was very special to Rajive.If we remember in answer to this undue interference from the TN Gamini was tasked to spear head the mighty Mahwali project where much employment was given to many Tamils in the East as well as to some Sinhalese and Muslims. He was winning the hearts and minds of the neglected Tamils who came to our fold, where I had the privilege of going to Bati and Trinco where we were entertained by the Tamil friends, where I manage to sponsor three Tamil kids in Trinity while the parents were sent to middle East. This development made people like Karuna,VP and another tiger leaders mad a leader named Karikallan conveyed his displeasure to the people working there.Gamini was made a target for getting down the Indians and doing the Mahavally project and settling Sinhalese and Muslim people there. I think VP didn’t like Gamini and Rajiv for this and was made history as uplifting the living standards of Tamils would have alienated the separatist cause, the reason for killing Rajiv and Gamini.There was a nasty campaign against Gamini by them saying that he had accumulated vast sums in UK and Australia. This is happening in SL where a national icon is being brought down by mere speculation and business leaders are in remand bringing chaos in our business circle with a confidence issue at the same time the clever tiger lobby had regained the FASTCASH trade depriving the much needed foreign exchange at this crucial time where all these FC outlets are now closed and our leaders are disgraced and locked up.For the sake of these problems MR must reign in RW who can get foreign aid to develop the island with the IT and other trimmings and keep the central govt of India happy and control the TN factor and JVP guys to be in charge of the rural areas of South. Time for party politics must be discarded for the sake of the country’s future.
kevin
You have misunderstood me.
There is a difference between working with westerners and worshiping them. I love science and I have contributed to it. Science no longer belong to westerners. It is as Sri Lankan as anything else.
In the 19th century, Sinhalese did not have the backbone to rise against Tamil Nationalism in front of the white people - that was what I was talking about.
Sri Lanka owes much to Pakistan for its help in supplying arms and military training to defeat the LTTE. However, the political situation in Pakistan is very tragic. All civilian governments in that country have been totally ineffective and corrupt. Also with a neighbor like India intent on destroying the state these regimes have not had the where withal to last very long.
A man who was in prison for twelve years and who has suffered persecution under a military and a civilian government (the previous Nawaz Sharif regime) is now head of state. His less than flattering nick-name is Mr. Ten-percent. Benazir Bhutto was resurrected by western regimes as an alternate leader when the west, specifically the US, felt that Musharaff was loosing popular support.
Zadari has been amenable to the west to which he owes his position. Some say he has been too servile to the west to the detriment of his country's own interests.
On Feb 13, Diane Feinstein, a Jewish-American U.S. senator from California dropped a bombshell. Ms. Feinstein, who happens to be Chairman of the U.S. Senate Intelligence Committee reveled to the world that U.S. drones that have been bombing Pakistan almost daily are actually operating from Pakistani airbases with the consent of the Pakistan government. This statement undermined any pretense the Pakistani Government was putting up that they had no control over the drone flights.
One of the mistakes Musharaff made was sending the army into the North West frontier when even the British had not done that during colonial times. Musharaff may have made many mistakes but his record on governance and corruption is much better than any civilian government in Pakistan. He picked for a Prime Minister and other top positions technocrats who held positions in the World Bank and other international organizations. Overall, I think, a military government is necessary for a country like Pakistan to survive.
"As the terrorist Expert Rohan Gunaratne said we must bring religious and racial harmony where every minority feel safe and fairly treated and create legislation to punish the nationalist bigots among us who are intolerant to others."
Suddha speak to us through Rohan Gunatathne.
Over few decades so called minorities have violated our right to steer the ship. When we opened our arms and invited them to make things better, we were laughed at. They only wanted was to build a better world for them and only for themselves.
I urge you to have the ability to stand up on our feet by ourselves before helping others.
When I started nationalists few months ago a friend of mine said who is going to rescue us when things going rough - it is the nationalists and find a way to cherish them.
Uncle Moshe Dyan
I presume you are talking about Wijayapala. He is a through bread Sinhalese Buddhist and never an Eelamist. Some of the idiots on this blog like Ananda-USA used to call me Eelamist as well.
People like you are the weakest links in the Sinhalese society. When your stupid minds can't take anything challenging and a different view, you simplify things by calling other as Eelamists.
You make your own Sinhalese friends stupid by misinforming them. This has been our weakness and you don't get it.
Grow up dude, grow a brain.
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kevin,
vesa-pala is a PRESENT tamil elamist. not an ex.
bugger got arse raped here by bloggers, left the blog and now returned to fool unsuspecting new bloggers.
NEVER expect anything patriotic from him!!!]
Wijapala
[Mahinda is wise enough not to pay attention to Mushe, but he is not the architect of Sri Lanka's victory. That credit goes to Gotabhaya and Sarath Fonseka- if Mahinda did not have these two, he would not have achieved the current victory and Sri Lanka would be in a real mess.]
I'd go one step up and tell the credit should go for LTTE for MR admin's success. GR and SF are dead people serving the government. Once they escaped, they became different men. While CBK changed for the worst after her escape, GR/SF combination became lethal against LTTE.
Watch This Video about Sri Lankan Forces
Indian said...
One thing that struck me immediately as soon as the clippings came on TV yesterday was "These guys are not shooting to Kill".
Dear Indian,
This was exactly my response also: these guys are not shooting to kill Sri Lankans! With the weapons they had, like the RPG, they could have blasted that bus easily to kingdom come.
I feel very sorry for the lives of the Pakistani guards who died defending our team.
However, I don't agree with your dismissal of the LTTE-RAW connection. Do you remember my thesis that there could be Rogue RAW Sub-groups still favoring the LTTE and the Greater Dravidian Nation agenda? These kinds of dirty tricks, to set Sri Lanka and Pakistan against one-another, was partly what I had in mind. This attempt will fail in doing that; I have no doubt.
When the full story comes out as to who masterminded this, my words then may prove to be prophetic!
Above all, we need evidence and proof; not speculations. Time will tell.
Hi Kasthuri,
"Thanks for mentioning him again, a great writer who met his untimely death due to his writings."
Actually I have a pretty low opinion of Sivaram, he was smart but had absolutely no sense of ethics at all and that probably led to his death. I don't regret his killing. I just realized though after reading Peter's posts that these guys just don't have anyone clever who can put a convincing spin on things anymore.
"According to my recollection LTTE was not established in East long after 1987. Correct me if I am wrong."
Check this out
"This was the worst idea, he should have let IPKF to finish the job by killing VP and his clan instead RP gave them rebirth with weapons and money."
I don't think IPKF had any intention of finishing the job or killing Thalaivar. Their goal was to "pressure" Thalaivar into their arrangement but no way he was going to do that. The evidence is that IPKF generals were talking about staying in SL for 10-20 years- they had no intention of leaving. I think Premadasa realized this which led to the alliance with LTTE.
Premadasa's big mistake though was trusting Thalaivar, and that cost him his life (R. Gandhi made the same mistake).
Uncle Moshe Dyan
I presume you are talking about Wijayapala. He is a through bread Sinhalese Buddhist and never an Eelamist. Some of the idiots on this blog like Ananda-USA used to call me Eelamist as well.
Moshe,
I tend to agree with RC on this. You are showing a phobia against Wijayapala. Let others decide their own.
BTW pals,
There is a new post from DW!
Indian,
"Couldnt find a stronger word that Gruesome to describe the happenings in Lahore yesterday.Thank God all the cricketer's are safe."
Thank you for your concern. Looks like you have blown a nice hole in Peter's argument.
I'm seeing all sorts of conspiracy theories about RAW and ISI. I do think that the Pak govt's claims of the attackers being the same sort of people who attacked Mumbai are credible. The ultimate motivation for both attacks was to weaken/isolate Pakistan.
rc & rana,
not true.
vesa-pala is a strong tamil elamist irrespective of his 'breed'.
he must be exposed. he is always taking new bloggers for a ride.
according to priyasantha who seems to know him (??) further confirmed.
anyway the best judges are bloggers themselves. unfortunately vesa-pala reveals his stripes.
no wonder a blogger raised the question NOT knowing anything about this shit!!!!
Moshe Dyan
" vesa-pala is a strong tamil elamist irrespective of his 'breed'."
I challenge you to justify this opinion. If you can't you will be in DefenceWire Hall of Shame.
Raman the nitwit is a Director, Institute For Topical Studies, Chenai. Why isnt he talking about tropical things like coconut and pineapples.
Wijepala is no longer an eelamist. Who wants to be a part of a loosing team...
හක් හක් හා...
Ananda-USA,
I understand your POV.Until investigation proceeds further,we can only consider the various possibilities.Lets wait and watch.
My thoughts were based on a simple query "Who gets the immediate maximum benifits on the success of a hostage situation"
I think the answer could be only Taliban based militia and LTTE.Not sure how the GoSL would have responded if those attackers succeeded in their mission,which I strongly belive was to take hostages.
Did rogue elements of RAW concour this attack,I am not really convinced as you are in this topic.I beg to differ on this.The stakes are much much higher and the fact that such operation was occuring in an environment completely hostile to RAW.One blip,like it happened in Mumbai when Kasab was caught alive,India and RAW would have lost the complete game they painstakingly built since 26/11.
My suspicion is strongly on Taliban based militia who are really hell bent on making Pakistan their new base since the US intervention in Afghanistant has eroded much of their base.Its not a secret that Tiger's have close relationship with Taliban - hope you remember Ramzi Yusuf entered the US with documents forged by Tigers.
Anyways,we have to wait and watch - but my fear is,will the current political turmoil in Pakistan allow a quick \ waterproof investigation.Unfortunately the answer seems to be NO
Indian said...
which I strongly belive was to take hostages.
You could be right! The taking of high-profile Sri Lankan hostages could very well have been the objective of the attack.
That is supported by the folowing observations:
1. They did not seem to want to kill the Sri Lankan cricketers
2. They could use the hostages either to rescue Prabakaran, or to demand a halt to completing the offensive against the LTTE. This is the LLTE's urgent need.
However, this still does not resolve the issue of who the party, or parties, assisting the LTTE could be.
Also, as you say, that may take a very long time to be disclosed, if ever.
Wijepala,
Thank you for your reply. You must know where Pottu is ?It’s only academic nothing sinister I assure you, perhaps you can ask Baratha?I am just writing notes about this war and we are just trying to put things in it’s place.
[/Civilian said...
Sri Lanka!! Please Stop Killing Civilians./
Add to peelaam dictionary.. whoever maintain that..
civilan = terrorist ]
Ninja,
I'm maintaining the Peelam Dicktionary. I first published the Peelam Dicktionary in www.shitamilnet.tv - The Sole Voice® of shitamil peeple.
Peelam Dicktionary - see comment #6
The updated Peelam Dicktionary follows:
Intelligent = retarded
Citizens = refugees
Civillian - Terrorist (Added by Ninja)
professionals = coolies
air crafts = tin cans
Tactically withdraw = stick the tail up your ass and run
Between the SLA and the Mulathivu sea = Between the devil and the deep sea
year = 73 days (so when some suck-kiliya says shitamils have been living in sri lanka for 2000 years, divide that number by 5 and u will get the correct number i.e. 400 years -- in the 17 th century in which shitamils were imported to Sri Lanka to cultivate tobacco.)
Fast-unto-Death = Just enough 4 whole days - (Added by Gayan)
RIP = Rot In Peelam (Added by Gayan) E.g. RIP Anton BalaLingam, RIP Shitamil Selvan
Shitamil Peelam organizations:
Leading Tamils To Extinction - LTTE - (Added by Asithri)
Frustrated And Retarded Tamils - FART
Suckkiliyas Hiding In Toilets - SHIT
Tamil Retards Organization - TRO
Federal Union of Crazy Kallathonis - FUCK
Your suggestions, modifications, additions, substractions, multiplications and divisions are wel cum.
Guys and Gays,
Who is the most beautiful -- Rana uncle's daughter or the girl in the Peeter suck-kiliya's (..159) profile pic?
Navindran suck-kiliya said...
[For the 2 days the Pakistan Team and the Sri Lankan Team went for training together. However on the third day or the day of the attack... ]
Attack? Oh my holy fucking gods!! Now the SL economy will collapse and suck-kiliyas will achieve Peelam in the pants.
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