Friday, August 7, 2009

KP Arrest -- UPDATE

We have received credible information on the arrest of two individuals, one a middle aged man traveling on a non-Sri Lankan passport at an undisclosed location in Bangkok in a joint stint launched by Thai and Sri Lankan authorities. The travel documents and said identity confirms with an alias of LTTE operative Shanmugam Kumaran Tharmalingham.

The man was carrying travel documents both under his own birth name and under other aliases at the time of arrest. A group of Sri Lankan officials is expected to fly the said two individuals to Sri Lanka shortly. Please await further information as it is made available.

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Ananda-USA said...

Loku said....

[He hates LTTE but is still an Eelamist.]

Yes... it appears to be so, and here are some my conclusions about why that is so.

DBS knows, through personal experience, that the LTTE had no regard for academics and/or educated theorists. Those who fell into that category, but did not want to serve as cannon fodder under the "illiterate" VP and his henchmen, felt shut-out of the power structure that they wanted to be a part of, and in fact, LEAD while VP attended to the dirty work. Engineers who could be put to work building weapons for him, was as far as he was prepared to tolerate college graduates.

I know several Tamil intellectuals like that, who wanted to be a part of the Eelam Enterprise and lead the political struggle, but got kicked in the teeth when they started to express their opinions to VP and his close associates. VP was an absolute dictator, he didn't want theorists pontificating to him, much less those from the old Tamil elite.

Nirmala Rajasingham, whose sister Rajini Thiranagama was assasinated by the LTTE, is a perfect example of someone who joined the LTTE, was sprung from jail by the LTTE, and had to flee abroad to escape the LTTE when conflicts arose. VP was not an intellectual; he distrusted those who were, and surrounded himself with largely illiterates and killers, for whom lack of learning was not a drawback, but a qualifying credential for leadership.

The mindset of the TAMIL OLD GUARD who felt EXCLUDED by VP, can be detected in DBS's comment that Karuna is NOT a good person to lead the Tamils in the future.

I agree with DBS in that; such leaders are insecure and will ultimately want to rule by fear and fear alone; the argument of force supplanting the force of argument.

DBS's reasoning, I think, is that Karuna does not have the intellectual background and sophistication to achieve some form of Eelam going forward and to rally all segments of the Tamil community. He fears that Karuna, Pillayan and others will again SHUT out the Tamil intelligentsia that DBS wants to be resurrected to lead the struggle.

DBS is a Tamil Nationalist, an ardent "Federalist", and a separatist deep in his heart. I came to this conclusion by carefully reading his writings. But that is OK, because I am an ardent Sri Lankan Nationalist opposed to all Communal Nationalists. We just have to be aware of where he is going with all of this, and be prepared to oppose and defend, when his activities undermine Sri Lanka's peace and security.

He knows that separatism will not work ANY MORE in Sinhala majority Sri Lanka, no matter how long they struggle. He knows that achieving an independent Tamil state in Sri Lanka by the force of arms will fail in the FORESEABLE FUTURE.

He bemoans the fact that VP & LTTE did not allow the TAMIL OLD GUARD to handle the politics and help achieve Eelam. When the VP-Karuna split came, DBS states he tried to patch up the division, to no avail. Why did he do that .. clearly that was not in the interest of the Sri Lankan nation fighting the LTTE, and of which he was a citizen? It was because he wanted Eelam as badly as any other Tamil Nationalist. Who can resist greed and give up the opportunity to eat somebody else's cake and have yours too?

I think that he now wants to accomplish two things:

1. Restore the old Tamil elite that was destroyed by VP & the LTTE back into national politics,

2. Organize them to achieve autonomy for Tamils within Sri Lanka, using as many Sinhala idiots as possible to help him do it, and

3. Achieve that as far as possible by stealth, without arousing the GOSL, or the Sinhala majority, by demanding too much too soon, up front.

Ananda-USA said...

On DBSJ

.....continued....

DBSJ is VERY CAREFUL in his statements to generate as much support from as many people in the Sinhala community as possible; particularly those people, who for various good, but foolishly misguided reasons, and bad self-serving reasons, will help him with that agenda.

One indication of the care with which DBS's is treading this path forward is his advice to one ardent Eelamist bemoaning the lack of an independent Tamil nation, and urging the continuation of the armed Eelamist struggle in Sri Lanka.

DBS said that struggle should be taken up in Tamil Nadu, India, instead of Sri Lanka. I agree with DBS that TN is the right place for it, but I know that if it were to succeed, it would be VERY BAD for Sri Lanka. Furthermore, many Tamil people would die in India to achieve something that is NOT IN THEIR BEST INTEREST; they just reject the racist politicians trying to arouse them and adjust to living as citizens of a great nation.

DBS's motive in saying that is two fold.

1. He does not want to arouse the Sinhala majority now, for that would lose all support from Sinhala people, and would compromise the Eelam-by-Stealth approach.

2. If an independent Tamil Nadu is created, it would vigorously support Eelam in Sri Lanka, much more than India, while raising the possibility of annexation of Eelam to TN in the long term.

That, after all, was the ULTIMATE GOAL of the Eelamists, with independent Eelam in Sri Lanka serving as the springboard for the independence struggle to be waged in TN, and union of Eelam and TN to occur soon thereafter.

In summary, your assessment that DBS hates the LTTE, but he is still an Eelamist, is absolutely correct.

Maha Raja(paksa) said...

SP, so it is happening to many of us. Any way we can expose this? Once I remember The Hindu publishing an article about a story in DBSJ blog. It then quoted what Sinhala, Tamil and Muslim commentators had said. You know al those comments would have been by DBS himself.

Ananda, that is a very good reply you have given there. You need to publish it on a main page. Why not send it to AT, MoD and LankaWeb?

I fear stealth Eelamists more than terrorists. That's because with known Eelamists lies no one listens. All the LTTE supporters were ignored when they did hunger strikes and road blocks. But when a stealth Eelamist lies people listen. DBS has been quoted by the BBC many times. I have also seen him on CNN and other media. We need to expose him now. The foxes are harder to spot than tigers. Main danger now is from them.

The price of freedom is eternal vigilance.

Sujeewa Kokawala said...

Is that true that 8/9 memebres of Standing Committee of Politburo of PR of China are Engineers, including President and Premier? I happened to read it in a Time magazine.

It is an interesting phenomena, for good or bad. Surely the only country in the world.

CASC said...

Another joker is coming to give unwanted advice ?



Top U.N official to visit Sri Lanka, discuss refugees

UNITED NATIONS (Reuters) - The top U.N. political official said on Monday he would travel to Sri Lanka this week to press the government to enable refugees to go home and other issues following its defeat of Tamil guerrillas.

Lynn Pascoe, head of the U.N. political affairs department, told reporters he would set off on Tuesday, at the request of. Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon, who himself visited Sri Lanka in May, days after the separatist rebels were crushed.

Aides said Pascoe would spend several days on the island and was expected to visit camps in the north for people displaced by the fighting, and to meet President Mahinda Rajapaksa and other officials.

The victory over the Tamil Tiger fighters ended a 25-year war. But while the Tigers were classified as a terrorist group by Western governments, Colombo is under Western and U.N. pressure to make good on its promise of returning 80 percent of the 280,000 Tamil people in camps to their homes by year-end.

Rights groups have charged that the people in the camps are treated poorly and are being kept there longer than necessary. Authorities say they need to weed out possible Tamil fighters and clear land mines before full resettlement can occur.

Pascoe said Ban had spoken to Rajapaksa by telephone on Monday to discuss the resettlement as well as promises the government gave him during his visit to investigate any rights abuses and launch a political dialogue with the Tamils.

"We have been concerned about the pace of progress since the secretary-general was out there," Pascoe said. "We're particularly concerned about the (refugees) in the camps, and getting them out, getting them home."

"The secretary-general said that he would like for me to go out fairly quickly to deal with follow-up issues and where they're going. President Rajapaksa agreed and so I'll be on the plane tomorrow with a small team," Pascoe added.

The United Nations is also concerned about two Sri Lankan U.N. employees being held by authorities and has criticized Colombo's expulsion of a spokesman for the U.N. children's agency UNICEF. The government said the spokesman, James Elder, had spread Tamil Tiger propaganda. The agency denied that.

"A whole range of human rights issues need to be discussed," said Pascoe, a former U.S. ambassador to Indonesia. But he added that he did not think responsibility for rights violations lay exclusively with the government.

The United Nations has sought to maintain a high profile over Sri Lanka after Ban was criticized by some advocacy groups over the timing of his visit, which the groups said appeared to endorse the army's victory. The U.N. denied that and said Ban had negotiated toughly with the government.

Sam Perera said...

Scum of Sri Lanka (Jaathiye Paahara Ballo)

featured Scum of the day

Jehan Perera and Pakiyasothi Saravanamuththu

This pair is currently engaged in bringing bogus war crime charges against Sri Lanka in collaboration with their white paymasters. The linked article says that Jehan Perera has explained his position to SL ambassador to US. These two monkeys are not an elected representatives of Sri Lanka by any means. Any position they take values nothing compared to opinion of an average Sri Lanka citizen since they are paid stooges of white masters and Eelamists.

Ranil Wickramasinghe
Lakshman Kiriella
Ravi Karunanayake
Vajira Abeywardena
Jayalath Jayawardena
Mangala Samaraweera
Rauf Hakeem
Wickramabahu Karunaratne
Kumar Rupasinghe
Jehan Perera
Sunanda Deshapriya
Sunila Abeysekara
Mano Ganeshan
R Sampanthan
K Sivajilingam
G.K. Ponnambalam
other TNA sakkiliyas
Duleep Chikera
Pakiyasothi Saravanamuttu
Rohan Edirisinghe
Mithra Fernando
Tisaranee Gunasekera
Priyath Liyanage
Rayappu Joseph
Rosy Senanayake
Sonali Samarasinghe
Nimalka Fernando
Sirithunga Jayasuriya
Dayasiri Jayasekara
Iqbal Athas
Lal Kantha
Anura Kumara
Malik Samarawickrama
Lalith Kothalawala
S.B. Dissanayake
Brian Seneviratne
Sisira Jayasuriya
Johnston Fernando
Ranath Premalal Kumarasinghe
Sucharitha Gamlath
Jayantha Senevirathna
Nirmal Ranjith Devasiri
Terrence Purasinghe
Chandrapala Kumarage (Attorney-at-law)
Yohan Devananda
Patrick Fernando
Kumar David
Basil Fernando

NOLTTE=Peace said...

LTTE and Peelamists have two strategies,

Force Sri Lanka through international pressure to adapt to,

1. Federal System or
2. Conduct Referendum

Both ways are sure tickets to Eelam grab.

We should never give into the two.

The Peelamists have invested too much money and time on the fake Homeland Project, and they want to somehow see a return.

There is lot of pressure from the average diasphora Tamil to Peelam Die-Ass-Phora Tamils who got the formers' money to deliver some kind of result.

BTW, there is a good news to share. GOSL has today brought down $1.5 Billion of funds that have been under KP's management in 20 accounts in one particular country.

This is a great achievement by GOSL within a short period.

Sam Perera said...

NOLTTE=peace,

"BTW, there is a good news to share. GOSL has today brought down $1.5 Billion of funds that have been under KP's management in 20 accounts in one particular country."

Can you confirm this news? Was it posted elsewhere?

NOLTTE=Peace said...

CASC,

"Another joker is coming to give unwanted advice ?"

I personally like them coming without any pre-set agenda.

If they come with an open mind, then it is good for us.

But the issue is, they all come here with pre-set agendas, and with already set targets to achieve.

When they could not achieve them, then they go into misinformation.

Remember Alan Rock -the LTTE stooge who slept with the most notorious LTTE men and came to Sri Lanka to discredit the government?

..and Louis Arbour!

Not the mention Nambiar who was constantly in touch with LTTE arms smuggler KP, and got caught in a toilet in the Airport having satellite phone conversations with KP.

That is how the UN is infected with undesirable shady characters.

SR @ LK said...

Open source software projects :
University of Moratuwa becomes World's Hot Spot

http://www.dailynews.lk/2009/09/15/news02.asp

CASC said...

Sam Perera said...
Scum of Sri Lanka (Jaathiye Paahara Ballo)
featured Scum of the day
Jehan Perera and Pakiyasothi Saravanamuththu

Sam,

US Institute of Peace and CSIS sponsored their session in Washington, DC which was attended by about 40 lower level bureaucrats. USIP is chartered by the US Congress and is 100% funded by the US Government. CSIS receives about a quarter of their funding directly from the US Government. There is no doubt a massive conspiracy to undermine the Sri Lanka government through these quislings.

NOLTTE=Peace said...

Sam,

The news 'will be posted' if not already have not been posted!

Sam Perera said...

NOLTTE=peace

"Sam,

The news 'will be posted' if not already have not been posted!"

This is even more interesting than capturing KP himself. I like to Ponna Peter's facial expressions when he hears this news.

ඉයන් said...

LSEtoBuySLfirm

London Stock Exchange to pay GPB 50 Million to buy Sri Lanka's Millenium IT. The reason is Millenium has the best Stock Exchange Software.

Ananda-USA said...

Sam Perera said...

[NOLTTE=peace,

"BTW, there is a good news to share. GOSL has today brought down $1.5 Billion of funds that have been under KP's management in 20 accounts in one particular country."

Can you confirm this news? Was it posted elsewhere?]

Yes, indeed, IF TRUE this would be a GREAT VICTORY and a DEADLY BLOW to the LTTE.

Use THEIR MONEY for Reconstruction & Rehabilitation, and for upgrading the SLDF!

Talk about POETIC JUSTICE, there is a JUST GOD in Heaven!

No-LTTE=Peace, where was this news published? Can you confirm this?

Moshe Dyan said...

UN given access to IDP camps!!

allowing one UN undersecretary to IDP camps means the UN has been given access. so they can no longer deny that.

what will they find in IDP camps???

murder, torture, etc.????

not at all. the BS is going to come out.

Moshe Dyan said...

i doubt the story about $1.5 bn tiger money.

KP alone cannot do that.

something tells me that this story and ranil's story of 38 MT gold are LINKED!!!

ranils says the govt plans to sell 38 MT of gold held by the govt. to get money.

gold price per ounce = $1,010
ounces per kilo = 35.27
sales volume = 38,000 kg
price = 38,000*1010*35.27
= $1.4 BN

strangely the two numbers equate!!

1. the govt is lying to cover up a MASSIVE corrupt deal

OR

2. ranil is lying to blame the govt and discredit the govt its good work of getting tiger money by screwing the tigers

now which one is the truth???

i'm no fan of the HOMOSEXUAL ranil clan, but my gut feel is #1. i may be wrong.

Moshe Dyan said...

the next BULLSHIT is on its way.

""There are situations that have already been handed to us. There is a report from the Department of State on the war in Sri Lanka due in Congress [on Sept. 21]. Additionally the office, together with the Secretary for Global Affairs and the Secretary of State, has the responsibility to collect information on ongoing atrocities and it is then the responsibility of the President to determine what steps might be taken towards justice."


let me repeat...LTTE did NOT commit war crimes. it was tamil separatists who committed war crimes in aranthalawa, etc., etc.

there is no point hammering the LTTE now. its dead.

we have to stab tamil seperatists. who says the crimes alleged on the LTTE were done by the LTTE?? who says aranthalawa massacre, etc, etc. were done by the LTTE?? there is no evidence. but there IS evidence that they were done by tamil seperatists to drive sinhalas out of what they call tamil elam.

we have to take up this position.

any opposing views???

NOLTTE=Peace said...

MF&ckers at work ..

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sinhala/news/story/2009/09/090915_un.shtml

NOLTTE=Peace said...

Congratulations to Tony Weerasinghe for his achievements.

He is a great personality, who underwent immense hardships to bring MIT to this state.

He went through challenges that many others would turn back and give-up. But Tony never gave up.

Now his software has proven that they are world's best.

Great achievement for a Sri Lankan.

Congratulations Tony!

KB said...

Exiled political activists of Sri Lanka's Tamil Tiger rebels say they will form an international government to pursue their political demands.

...

Their rhetoric is strong - they refer to the government's "Sinhala-Buddhist genocidal forces".

But they have repeated that their new approach will be political, not violent.

That is unlikely to soften the attitude of the government here, which has made it clear that it is now hunting the Tamil lawyer who has signed this document, Visvanathan Rudrakumaran.


Bugger! These Eeelam donkeys have a short memory as same their animal counterparts. When they are whacked they bray and cry loudly. Then the donkeys go quiet licking their wounds. But after a month or so they forget the pain and start their incessant braying again.

Cheers!

KB said...

[Congratulations to Tony Weerasinghe for his achievements. ]
NOLTTE=Peace, dear chap, they have a lot of top notch talent. I know their CTO Hemantha Jayawardena who is a brilliant chap. He graduated from MIT with a near perfect GPA.

Cheers!

Ananda-USA said...

Moshe,

The 38MT Gold = $1.5B connection you made is amazing!

What exactly is the SOURCE of this gold? Could it be possible that this is Gold recovered from an LTTE hoard in the Wanni?

Ananda-USA said...

Moshe,

This report says 37MT and Rs. 1.4B instead of $1.4B.

............
Claim of selling gold is not true, Sri Lanka Central Bank says

ColomboPage.com

Sept 15, Colombo: Sri Lanka's Central Bank Monday said the allegations that it is planning to sell large quantities of gold from its reserves are untrue.

The allegations are malicious and obviously made by certain interested parties who are attempting to mislead the public, the CB said in a statement.

Leader of the Sri Lanka's main opposition United National Party Ranil Wickremasinghe Monday has reportedly said the CB is planning to sell the 37 metric tons of gold reserves valued at about 1.4 billion rupees to a private company to pay off the debts without the approval or the knowledge of the Cabinet.

Clarifying its position, the CB said the official international reserves of the country are managed by the Bank and held as foreign currency balances in reputed international banks overseas, foreign currency denominated instruments and gold.

According to the CB, it conducts transactions with foreign counterparts in all foreign assets, including gold, as a part of its international reserve management operations in accordance with the Monetary Law Act.

"With the recent sharp increase in the reserve position, the Central Bank has further increased its gold holdings as part of its reserve management strategy. The public is therefore notified that these allegations are blatantly false and should not be misguided by such false information," the statement further said.

Ananda-USA said...

Sam (Perera),

Can you please respond to my email? Thanks!

Ananda-USA said...

Thusita,

Did you read my email reply? :)

Moshe Dyan said...

Ananda,

thanks for the link.

the price (stated in ounces) fluctuates rapidly. just 6% change can achieve the same proceed for 37MT as 38MT would get if the price was 6% lower (1,010).

can't remember where i got the 38 MT from. my bad. a difference of 1,000 kg of GOLD is unforgivable!! lol!!

still i have some doubts bcos it is only the CBSL saying this.

if RW is twisting the truth to save the sorry arses of the LTTE, he is a bigger traitor than he presently is.

Ananda-USA said...

Vaiko is beating the Communal EELAM drum again!

..............
MDMK to get global support for Tamil Eelam

ExpressBuzz.com
September 15, 2009

TIRUCHIRAPPALLI:MDMK Tuesday said that it would strive hard to ease the 'sufferings' of Tamils in Sri Lanka.

The party, in a resolution at its regional conference here, inaugurated by party chairman Vaiko, said MDMK was 'determined to amass global support for a separate eelam for Tamils in Sri Lanka'.

In another resolution, it said the party was 'committted to remove' the DMK government out of power in Tamil Nadu.

It said that MDMK would seek the support of public in removing the government, as it had 'failed' to fulfil the promises given to people during the time of elections.

It said, the government was unable to control the price rise of essential commodities.

The DMK government could not solve the Palar and Mullaperiyar dam issues with Andhra Pradesh and Kerala governments respectively, the resolution said.

Ananda-USA said...

Why is Karunanidhi splitting hairs to recant his old stand against Hindi?

Like Richard Nixon who "misspoke himself" implying that "I" cannot be held culpable for the words of "himself", is Karunanidhi also invoking an independent dual-personality to deny responsibility for his own utterings?


...............
DMK not against hindi: MK

Deputy CM M K Stalin with MP Kanimozhi at the coin release function

ExpressBuzz.com
September 15, 2009

CHENNAI: Chief Minister and DMK president M Karunanidhi on Tuesday asserted that at no point of time, even during its anti-Hindi agitations held in 1937- 38, the DMK was against Hindi but was against imposition of Hindi to suppress Tamil language.

At the valedictory of the birth centenary of former chief minister CN Annadurai here, Karunanidhi said “We have never said down with Hindi”.

Instead, we have only said “down with imposition of Hindi”.

Karunanidhi, who spoke in the presence of Union Finance Minister Pranab Mukherjee, said “Even now the DMK is firmly against imposition of Hindi. At the same time, we have no hatred towards any language.” It is to be noted that of late, Karunanidhi had been saying that the DMK was taking shape as a pan Indian party not only because it had a few MPs and ministers at the Centre but even in terms of spirit.

Thusitha said...

Ananda-USA said...
Thusita,

Did you read my email reply? :)

--------------------------------
I got an email few days back. I already responded to it.

ඉයන් said...

British retail consortium has called on the EU not to penalise Sri lankan workers or British shoppers by withdrawing the GSP+ concession.Adaderana.lk

Thusitha said...

Moshe Dyan said...

if RW is twisting the truth to save the sorry arses of the LTTE, he is a bigger traitor than he presently is.

---------------------------------
He already is the biggest traitor. It is bit difficult to sell Gold that is under the control of Central Bank. The only thing he is trying to do is give the government bad publicity. Never seen a traitor like him before.

Also it is not a bad time to sell gold.

Ananda-USA said...

Recently I wrote here about DBSJ's goals. Here is a post from DBSJ's website is relevant to that discussion.

Read the last paragraph; it echoes the views of many of us here.

............
#140. Rajan | September 14th, 2009 at 11:42 am

#124 Dilshan F

You are absolutely correct. It’s mainly a social problem but there is also a political consequence of it. I’m a Tamil, so I can say this. Do you know the worst kind of racist in Sri Lanka? It’s the Jaffna Tamils. I’m not from Jaffna but grew up there, so I know these people very well. They looked down on everyone; for them Singhalese are ‘modayas’, Vanni Tamils are ‘kaddans’, upcountry Tamils are ‘thodakaddans�, and Indians are ‘vadakathayans’. Oh my god, I have never seen a group of people who is so arrogant and uncivilized but claimed to be educated.

They suffer from superiority complex and will go to any level to bring others down. Even if you look within Jaffna community, they do segregate among themselves. They looked down on the people from islets, Vadamarachi or Thenmarachi. And add the caste system on top of it; you can see this place as hell on earth for someone who is not from Jaffna.

After the independence, obviously Singhalese wanted to turn the table around and set out to claim their superiority. Also they wanted a payback for what they went through in the hands of these �educated� Jaffna Tamils. But unfortunately, they saw no difference between Jaffna Tamils and others. Singhalese started to pass laws which would marginalize Tamils and create resentment among all.

You also have to remember that Jaffna Tamils always felt that they are so special that they would never live under Singhala rule. So they came up with �Vaddukoddai� resolution legitimizing the quest for separate land. Other Tamils had to join this bandwagon mainly due to the atrocities committed by our forces.

The worst part of this whole saga is that what started in Jaffna ended up in Wanni. For what Jaffna Tamils set out to do, the Wanni Tamils paid the price dearly. Most of these Jaffna Tamils have settled down in foreign countries as �refugees� while the real refugees are still behind the barbed wires. Now these people are in the west, they really believe that they are far superior race just like the Jewish did. But this race only include the Jaffna Tamils, no other Tamils can join this.

Bottom line is that as people we all need to change. It doesn�t matter if you are Singalese, Tamils or Muslims or whatever, we are all people/human beings. Our people need to learn about diversity, tolerance and acceptance. Judge another person for what he/she stands for, not for where they are from or what their �daddy� did. People need to grow up. Show compassion to each other, break that ethinic barriers; soon we all can feel that this little island belongs to everyone and no one is better/worse than other.

kevin said...

I think it’s a good idea to sell half that gold and improve the infrastructure of the country and there are many possibilities where this valuable asset could be used. If one could work with true sincerity, dedication and honesty then one could do wonders with that money. Proper use of these assets will pay dividends and will be able to recover money invested in 5 to 7 years, just as we business men do. This will enable us growth and income.

Moshe Dyan said...

"War and disregard make Tamils hard and determined
[TamilNet, Wednesday, 16 September 2009, 08:44 GMT]"

seeing a kundi like damilvany naked makes me rock hard whatever with determination!!!

these hate breeders should be screwed by a pack of dogs. i pity those dogs.

Thusitha said...


Freedom curbed in Sri Lanka


The former president, who is on a visit to Kerala, was speaking to the media after calling on Chief Minister V. S. Achuthanandan at the Secretariat on Tuesday. Ms. Kumaratunga said that there was an overall feeling of fear in Sri Lanka. “I fear for my life, if I speak freely, though my party is in power (as part of a coalition),” she said.

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Did this women got f***ed by a Tiger or what? Why does she keep on going to India?

Ananda-USA said...

Provisional Adjunct Temporary Fleeting Evanescent Transnational Government of Tamil Eelam (PAFETGTE) has been "handed over" in chains to the Confused International Die-Ass-Pora by "the LTTE".

The Question is: Which WING of the LTTE did that?

Is it the KP Arms Purchasing Wing, the Castro Superior Intelligence Wing, the Peace Secretariat Wing, the Tamil Nadu Liberation Wing, the Left Wing, or the Right Wing, or .....?



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Movement handed over Tamil Diaspora: LTTE

P K Balachandran
ExpressBuzz.com
September 16, 2009

COLOMBO: The Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam (LTTE) claimed on Tuesday, that they had handed over the struggle for the self-determination of the Tamils in Sri Lanka to the Tamil Diaspora. They added that the Provisional Transnational Government of Tamil Eelam (PTGTE), which Selvarasa Pathmanathan alias KP had proposed, should not be taken as an LTTE institution but as an institution of the Tamil Diaspora.

In a statement published in the Tamil website www.puthinam.com Visuvanathan Rudrakumaran, the coordinator of the committee for the establishment of a PTGTE, said that it was a fact that an LTTE leader, Selvarasa Pathmanathan, the Head of the International Department of the outfit, had proposed the formation of PTGTE. It was also a fact that it was KP who had proposed that the Tamils’ struggle shed militarism and replace it with democratic and peaceful methods. KP had also said that the PTGTE would be a democratic institution.

But this did not make the PTGTE an LTTE institution, Rudrakumaran said. It would be an institution of the Tamil Diaspora. He noted that KP had explicitly said that the LTTE had entrusted the next phase of the Tamils’ struggle to the Diaspora.

The PTGTE’s aim would be to lobby with the governments of various countries for the recogniti on of the Lankan Tamils’ nationhood, their claim to a Homeland in the north and east of Lanka, and their right to self determination.

Rudrakumaran said that the Tamils living in Sri Lanka itself would not be participating in the proposed PTGTE because the Sri Lankan government had given them no political space at all to express themselves.

Ananda-USA said...

Guys,

I don't see the BBC criticizing India for being harsh on the Maoists, in this article.

All I detect is "GENUINE HEARTFELT CONCERN" for India's integrity.

Wow! We expect a verbal whipping to be administered to India as Sri Lanka receives under similar conditions. We expect some even handedness here from the world famous British Broadcasting Corporation!

Discrimination, I would say.

Wouldn't you?


..........
India is 'losing Maoist battle'

Maoists have a presence in almost 200 Indian districts

India's Prime Minister Manmohan Singh says his country is losing the battle against Maoist rebels.

Mr Singh told a meeting of police chiefs from different states that rebel violence was increasing and the Maoists' appeal was growing.

The rebels say they are fighting for the rights of the poor.

They operate in a large swathe of territory across central India, and in some areas have almost replaced the local government.

More than 6,000 people have been killed during their 20-year fight for a communist state.

'Going up'

"I have consistently held that in many ways, left-wing extremism poses perhaps the gravest internal security threat our country faces," Mr Singh told a conference of Indian police chiefs in the capital, Delhi.

"We have discussed this in the last five years and I would like to state frankly that we have not achieved as much success as we would have liked in containing this menace."

The prime minister said that despite the government's best efforts, violence in Maoist-affected areas was going up.

The prime minister admitted that the Maoists had growing appeal among a large section of Indian society, including tribal communities, the rural poor as well as sections of the intelligentsia and the youth.

Mr Singh said a more sensitive approach was necessary in dealing with the Maoists.

"Dealing with left-wing extremism requires a nuanced strategy - a holistic approach. It cannot be treated simply as a law and order problem."

The rebels operate in 182 districts in India, mainly in the states of Jharkhand, Bihar, Andhra Pradesh, Chhattisgarh, Madhya Pradesh, Maharashtra and West Bengal.

In some areas they have virtually replaced the local government and are able to mount spectacular attacks on government installations.

The rebels say they are fighting for the rights of poor peasants and landless workers.

Thusitha said...

Any truth in this?

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UNP MP Kabir Hashim said, the total borrowings of this Govt. for just three years, 2007 to 2009 is Rs 1504 billion. This amount exceeds the total borrowings made during the period of 56 years since SL got independence, that is from 1948 to 2004. In other words, the President Rajapakse Govt. in three years of its existence has indebted the country to a greater extent than all the Govts. in 56 years
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Anonymous said...

Guys,
what do you think about this idea,

If you see, so many countries are crying on behalf of diaspora to resettle IDP ASAP.
Government use demining and development as excuse to delay it (it is true)

So best way to handle this issue is to devide the area in blocks , exactly like, what we did for oil exploration and ask those crying countries to demine and gurantee the safaty and basic devolopment of the area to resettle the IDP.

Problem is solved.

Either those countries has to take the challange and show their genuness about the issue or keep fcuking silence.

Moshe Dyan said...

thusitha,

that PIG is lying from his pigarse!!

debt in 2004 = $10.85 bn
debt in 2009 = $12.20 bn

NET increase = $1.35 bn
= Rs 150 bn

the net figure has to be taken. otherwise it is not relevant.

Moshe Dyan said...

patriots,

OBA-MA so far kept more or less silent on SL.

that was HUGELY beneficial for SL.

he may not keep silent after 21 september. we have to be proactive and keep him UPTODATE on resettlement, etc.

Jay said...

(The President has ordered the immediate removal of Cultural Affairs and National Heritage Ministry Secretary Wimaladasa Samarasinghe after he was blamed for the President’s fall at the State Literary Day held at the Presidential Secretariat.)

Must have been a culture shock for Samarasinghe to serve under MR!

Jay said...

Denial and rage in Sri Lanka

The shelling might have stopped, but the persecution continues. Sri Lanka's government must let the international community in.

Article in the UK Guardian

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2009/sep/16/sri-lanka

The International community will keep hounding SL until Independent witnesses and media are allowed in to the North and North East.

Interesting developments brewing in the background that could surface the next few weeks.

Jay said...

Sri Lanka’s Attorney General Mohan Peiris is due in UK tomorrow to explore the possibilities of taking legal action against British broadcaster Channel 4 for airing controversial video footage of alleged military killings of unarmed LTTE cadres, Disaster Management and Human Rights Minister Mahinda Samarasinghe said.



Speaking to Daily Mirror online the Minister, who is in Geneva for the 12th UN Human Rights Council session, said that the Attorney General would meet with the lawyers representing Sri Lanka and discuss with them the best legal way in which to proceed with the broadcaster. He said that the AG would also meet with the Press Complaints Commission in the UK with regards to this issue and seek redress.

Excellent news!

Jay said...

Online Petition to condemn the recent refusal of a visa to UK for Lankan Foreign Secretary Dr. Palitha Kohona

Lankaweb.


Lankaweb and Tamilnet are neck and neck on entertainment value.

I love to read the letters from Asoka Weerasinghe from Canada. He is an absolute gem!

Jay said...

Foreign investors weary of investing in Sri Lanka- Harry. J


The Honorary Counsel to Denmark and business tycoon Harry Jayawardene, at a meeting with Foreign Minister Rohitha Bogollagama this afternoon, said that foreign investors are weary of investing in Sri Lanka due to the impact the local judiciary can have on business related matters.

“The business climate has not improved as expected. Investors are shy to come to Sri Lanka. We need to have some sort of policy decision where the Supreme Court cannot reverse business decisions worth millions of dollars,” Jayawardene said at the meeting where Sri Lanka’s other Honorary Counsels were also present.

Responding to this, Foreign Minister Rohitha Bogollagama said that while the argument raised by Mr. Jayawardene was a valid one the independence of the judicial system has to be maintained.


"the independendence of the judicial system has to be maintained"-
Thats a good one Bogoll.

hmm.. CPC Oil Hedge,Waters Edge, PB Jayasundara,MIG deal. Selective amnesia

Jay said...

Keeping memories alive 20th anniversary of Rajani’s assassination

http://transcurrents.com/tc/2009/09/keeping_memories_alive_20th_an.html

Her spirit and courage unmatched.

CASC said...

Nitin Gokhale, a reporter for the Indian TV station NDTV, has written a book titled "Sri Lanka from War To peace." He was interviewed by Rediffnews regarding his book.

http://news.rediff.com/interview/2009/sep/14/prabhakaran-was-a-good-weapon-to-use.htm



'Prabhakaran was a good weapon to use'

Ever since the war in Sri Lanka ended, one question that has persisted is India's role in the battle against the Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam.

NDTV Defence and Strategic Affairs Editor Nitin Anant Gokhale's book Sri Lanka: From War to Peace answers that question. India gave Sri Lanka helicopters, supported it with intelligence and the Indian Navy effectively pinpointed LTTE ships and shut the r on the rebels.

While China and Pakistan merely gave Sri Lanka the muscle, says Gokhale, India helped the island nation land the knockout punch.

In this interview with rediff.com's Krishnakumar P, Gokhale discusses India's role, the death of LTTE chief V Prabhakaran, the lessons for India and how Sri Lanka still looks at its big neighbour with respect.

How exactly did Prabhakaran meet his end?

In the last two days, the Sri Lankan army had intelligence that all the top LTTE leaders were in a narrow lagoon. They knew this from people who were coming out, and also one of his bodyguards who was captured.

The LTTE had tried to break through that lagoon. They launched waves of attacks, like they are known to do. The idea was to come out of the lagoon and get into the jungles of Mullaitheevu.

Prabhakaran's son Charles Anthony died in the first wave of attacks.

If the rest of the top leaders had managed to escape, the war would have been extended. But the army had deployed two defence lines and one of the reserve forces.

When they spotted some movement in the mangroves, they engaged in a gun battle and the top leaders were killed. When President Mahinda Rajapakse addressed the nation, he didn't mention anything about Prabhakaran.

Then Colonel Karuna was flown in to identify the body. It took three hours for a positive identification, as they call it.

You have been following this war, Eelam war 4, since it began...

The day after the failed assassination attempt on Lankan army chief General Sarath Fonseka, I went to Colombo and went to the east where the fighting was happening...

Did you get a sense then that this would be the biggest and bloodiest phase?

I could sense that this army was taking losses. Earlier leaderships did not want to take losses. But that this leadership was different was very evident. But it did not seem very apparent till January 2007.

What were the key aspects of Eelam 4?

As General Fonseka told me: "This time we were playing for a win, not a draw." Earlier, governments would go a distance and pull back. But this time the politico-military objective was to finish the LTTE militarily. Human rights be damned. The Tamil issue, the devolution of power would all come later, it was decided.

The second key thing was the total synergy between the three forces, which was never seen before.

Earlier, the navy used to be their weakest link. It had large boats that used to come under LTTE suicide boat attacks. When such a boat went down, it was a loss of about 40 lives and $15 million.

The (then) naval chief Admiral Vasantha Karannagoda said 'Let me take them on at their own game.' He started building smaller boats. They were called arrow boats.

The navy started adopting the LTTE's swarming tactics. The air force too.

Leadership makes a difference. The air force was earlier basically an air transport wing of the army. This time, helicopter gunships were used, casualty evacuation used to happen. So the army knew it would be backed fully.

CASC said...

con't

What was the single biggest turning point?

When they took the east, they realised the LTTE could be taken on. That was the biggest morale booster. Another thing was that the international atmosphere had changed after the 9/11 attacks in the US.

How will you quantify India's role?

When Rajapakse took over, he came to India within a month of taking oath. Initially, he was also saying that he would negotiate. He added that he didn't think the LTTE will be interested.

India straightaway told him that it won't give Sri Lanka offensive weapons.

Within a while of liberating the east, two teams comprising three members each were set up on both sides. They were constantly in touch. Thus, India was always in the loop.

We gave them MI-17 helicopters, but told them to fly those in their colours. The Indian Navy also played an active part in the LTTE's defeat. And we gave them intelligence.

We also denied the LTTE space to come out. We shut the door on them.

India was very clear that the LTTE was a terrorist organsiation. India said 'Go ahead with your operations', but was very clear in telling Sri Lanka not to harm civilians.

In percentage terms, how much did India help Sri Lanka in the war against the LTTE?

About 25 per cent.

In terms of importance?

Very important. Lanka knows despite the hue and cry, India cannot be ignored. And Sri Lanka holds India in respect.

India was quietly supportive of the military and also helped with humanitarian assistance.

Although there is a school of thought that India is no longer important, there is not enough evidence. The port that China was given, remember that they came to India first.

Only when India refused to give them arms, did they go elsewhere. But they have given another port, the northernmost, to India. Trincomalle is with India.

India's importance in the public eye may have diminished. But the Sri Lankan State knows it is a big power.

What role did China and Pakistan play?

China's role is mostly commercial. They gave out weapons at a discounted rate and also gave them a line of credit.

Pakistan mostly gave them training because India expressed its inability to do that. Although, I must say that about 800 officers come and train in India every year. Most senior officers I met in Sri Lanka had done at least three courses in India.

Pakistan's and China's help was mostly commercial in nature and they were able to be open about it.

As I say in the book, Sri Lanka won this war with China and Pakistan's open backing and with India's covert support.

So, the most hands-on help was given by India?

Absolutely. There is this lobby in India that is anti-China. They are obsessed with China. Even in Myanmar, only after India declined did they go to China.

What are the lessons that we can learn?

This is the only second instance in the world in the last 50 years where an insurgency has been put down militarily. Here, we don't do it. Especially in the last 30 years or so it has never happened.

But I don't think we can repeat what happened there. There are some lessons, but we can't take the full template because India is a much more open society and vibrant democracy and has a stronger press.

CASC said...

con't

Can the North-east problem or the Naxal problem be solved militarily?

No. It can't be done. Unlike the North-east and the Naxals, the LTTE created a state within a state, a territory within a territory. It became important to clear the area. You have to clear the area.

In the North-east or Naxal-controlled areas or Kashmir [ Images ], you can't do that.

The lesson is that you can take a military solution up to a point. But you also have to give the military a free hand. In India we always interfere. Be it with ULFA (the United Liberation Front of Asom), the Naga rebels or in Kashmir, as they were going to deal a final blow, you pull them back.

Once you have decided on it, you can't succumb to the liberal view.

Any non-military aspects of this war that stood out for you?

Nobody was ready for the kind of people who came out of LTTE controlled areas. At one point, 80,000 people came out in one day. If not anything you have to at least feed them.

Lanka failed to gauge the humanitarian issue. They could have done better. They never have dealt with this kind of thing. This is where the expertise of an army like India comes in. A force like the Indian Army [ Images ] would have handled it far better.

Politically, why do you think the ruling party fared badly in two local bodies election recently?

That will happen. The Tamil National Alliance has a hold in certain areas. That shows that like the Rajapakse brothers keep saying, they did not rig it. So they will see it as a victory.

What next?

Rajapakse has shown in the final analysis that a small nation can eliminate terror and still stand up firm against the West.

There are a lot of games going on in the Indian Ocean. The US wants a lever with Sri Lanka. Prabhakaran was a good weapon to use. Likewise the Scandinavian countries were the arms suppliers to the LTTE.

In fact, Fonseka told me on record that 10 minutes before they were killed, ambassadors were calling up the defence secretary (Gotabaya Rajapakse, the persident's brother) to save them (Prabhakaran and top LTTE leaders).

Fonseka said any fool would have known that a ceasefire appeal at that time was to save Prabhakaran and not the people, because there were no people there.

The issue had two aspects: Military and political.

Tamils will very frankly never get the kind of autonomy they have been demanding. But Sri Lanka now has to treat them with dignity. The death of one Prabhakaran should not give rise to another.

This is the chance for Rajapakse. He cannot afford to go wrong. There is too much international scrutiny. India has told them, 'We supported you in the international fora but that doesn't mean you can act with impunity...' So, the real test is to win the peace.

CASC said...

India will soon become Sri Lanka's largest trading partner because of the free trade agreement, and a soon to be implemented financial services agreement, which I understand will be implemented next year. What we also need are some top notch Indian high tech universities like IIT or Birla Institute of Technology to set-up shop in Sri Lanka.

It seeems that the Indian companies are already planning to make major capital investments in Sri Lanka. Many of these conglomerates are huge by world standards.

The Mahindra IT Group mentioned below I believe is India's largest IT company.

http://www.india-server.com/news/reliance-industries-in-talks-with-sri-12424.html

Reliance Industries of the Mukesh Ambani group is planning to explore oil in Sri Lanka, for which talks with the government of Sri Lanka are in progress. Sri Lanka's Minister of Investment Promotion Navin Dissanayake told the media on Modnay from New Delhi that the government of Sri Lanka is "in talks with Reliance for petroleum exploration". He also told that Reliance Industries is keen for exploration in Munnar as well as the Southern basins. The Indian unit of Cairn Energy has already entered an oil block located in the Munnar fields with an investment of about $400 million.
"So, if Reliance is coming, it will be into that figure at least," said Dissanayake. He will be holding talks with the officials of Reliance Industries in Mumbai. He added that Sri Lanka was also in talks with Mahindra group to set up a IT park at an investment of $70 to $100 million. Besides, another major Indian industrial group, Aditya Birla Group, has sought to build a $50-million Carbon Black factory in the island country, Dissanayake added.

Sam Perera said...

Ananda,

I sent a replay 4 hrs ago.

NOLTTE=Peace said...

Looks like Jay is enjoying a lite day!

Jay said...

..hic...
cheers

Sam Perera said...

Moshe,

Damilvany was in NFZ in the final days. She was suspected to be a western agent. To some reason, we couldn't gather enough information about her,

Jay said...

Sam P
I understood Damilvany plus 3 other British Passport holders were volunteer aid workers (oops ..sorry you call them Western Agents) held in the IDP camps and were subsequently released as a result of pressure from the UK Govt and UNHCR (Tiger payrolled).

I'm amazed GOSL did not get them to sign a "statement" before they were released.

Sam Perera said...

Jay,

Can you please clarify the difference between

(1) an aid worker,
(2) a political activist, and
(3) a western agent?

Did you take any time to listen to Damilvaney's own words in the interview as to why she was there? Please listen to what she says before you put you two cents worth next time.

Sujeewa Kokawala said...

Jay;

With lots of conspiracy theory, you pulled a valuable post about Rajini T.

Let me leave my human feelings for her kids and loved ones, as that is not my topic here.

A grad of her kind who used SL state resources to max, and won a schol granted for this island itself, turning up for Pussycats is a crime. I only knew her anti-pussycat past, but now it looks that she's one of the pioneers of militant loosers.

At a time of her death she was a great asset for us to preserve. We regret that. But she deserves every bit of her death. Imagine the number of civilians killed by "innocent" militants whom she cured. And the amount of fools who turned up for the madness due to her influential figure. And the amunt of her top class brain that contributed dcreating teh killing machine.

And she's doctor herself !!!

She would have missed SL bullet for many years, but git her own deserving death.

Anonymous said...

everybody knows, who is puligal admin now.

poor diya-bariya

Anonymous said...

Damilvany is the one, who was wishked away by british officals in SL air port.

Anonymous said...

http://www.adaderana.lk/news.php?nid=5271

Lankan immigrant fired from Boston Pizza for non-proficiency in English

Lankan immigrant.. or Eezhaam Thamizh..? Canada has started genocide.. How come tamilnut not reporting this tamil affair to the world..?

Anonymous said...

/Damilvany is the one../

Whaat? How come white vam missed her..?

Bhairav said...

Badri is the original blog owner of Puligal.blogspot but he decided to take the time off for a while, so i've become a temporary admin.

Anonymous said...

/'Why isn’t the list of IDPs under security forces published'

Sep 17 (LT) JVP MP Bimal Rathnayake has asked Minister of Justice and Law Reforms Milinda Moragoda on what grounds the government doesn’t publish the list of names of the IDPs who surrendered and also of those who were apprehended after the war./

Why didn't JVP publish a list they killed in 87-89?

Ananda-USA said...

Army on 'Operation Alert' along China border

ExpressBuzz.com
September 16, 2009

NEW DELHI: The Indian Army has mobilised its troops to forwards posts in Jammu and Kashmir and along the northeastern border with China in an exercise named Operation Alert, a defence official said Wednesday.

"About 50 percent troops on the Line of Actual Control have been mobilised to forward posts. The mobilisation would last for nearly a month," a senior Indian Army official told IANS.

The mobilisation of Indian troops has come close on the heels of a high-profile war game launched by the Chinese army. China had deployed close to 50,000 troops in its biggest cross-country tactical mobilisation exercise that has sent alarm bells ringing in India as it is seen as Beijing's efforts to improve its ability to deploy troops in Tibet whenever reinforcements are required.

However, the Indian Army officially refused to term the mobilisation as a counter to the Chinese army's exercise.

"Operation Alert is an annual exercise conducted during this time of the year to undertake the maintenance of the forward posts," another Indian Army official said.

In the past months, there have been several reports of Chinese troops intruding into Indian territory in the Ladakh region of Jammu and Kashmir creating anxiety about Beijing's aggressive designs.

The Indian government has, however, sought to play down the incursions, saying these are routine incidents that occur due to differences in perception about the Line of Actual Control.

Thusitha said...

Ninja said...
/Damilvany is the one../

Whaat? How come white vam missed her..?

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If defence did not wish her to leave the country, how come she was given her passport back?

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Ananda-USA said...

andare said...

[ So best way to handle this issue is to devide the area in blocks , exactly like, what we did for oil exploration and ask those crying countries to demine and gurantee the safaty and basic devolopment of the area to resettle the IDP.]

Andare,

Interesting idea, like the way Buddhist temple structures are built, but it can have severe adverse repercussions. Let me explain.

Giving responsibility for pieces of Sri Lanka to other countries to develop, amounts to an abdication of sovereignty.

They will demand total control over "their canton" and function as law-unto-themselves beyond the control and purview of the GOSL, just as the iNGOs and their local NGOs did in the immediate past.

Very quickly they will bribe and corrupt everyone in sight, and a whole host of locals will jump on that gravy train, and make a career of collaborating in the undermining of their own country. If they fall into trouble, and have to flee abroad, they will receive visas and financial assistance from their foreign masters for that. Thus, we will create an anti-SL Sinhala Diaspora in addition to the LTTE Tamil Diaspora.

To prevent this, I have long advocated that all foreign funds and resources provided as aid be delivered to, and be administered by, the government, and their use assigned to projects with permanent government oversight. Let ALL THE PEOPLE hired to work on them be GOVERNMENT EMPLOYEES, not employees of these foreign agencies. Consequently, all employees are subject to GOSL rules and regulations, without allowing any incentives to undermine the nation.

We can give the sponsors all the credit, take them on tours, honor them for their contributions, but no room must be left for them to directly bribe and corrupt people and destabilize Sri Lanka from within.

This was one of the MAIN BARRIERS that emerged in the last 30 years to assist and grow the LTTE and to make the GOSL IMPOTENT in reunifying the nation and extending its writ over the entire country. Not only ordinary people, but government parliamentarians and officials were bribed by these foreigners.

This NETWORK of iNGOs and NGOs was rendered impotent by the present GOSL, and that process must CONTINUE to their being rooted out, their bag and baggage, and local operatives included, ENTIRELY from Sri Lanka.

NEVER AGAIN should they be allowed to re-establish themselves and operate as sovereign sub-national anti-national entities.

ඉයන් said...

The reason we need more CoffeeHouses in Colombo

Moshe Dyan said...

MR's chair incident is ugly.

even if the bugger was responsible, sacking him shows that MR is fast becoming an ARSEHOLE.

we should not let that happen. pride goes b4 a fall!! those who like to see MR fall, will encourage his rapid pride build up.

true patriots should NEVER clap when MR does something DUMB.

so far he was well grounded. it will be his end if he continues to behave like this. pathetic!!

Moshe Dyan said...

"Sivam, had arrived in Colombo in March 2002, soon after the implementation of the Cease Fire Agreement (CFA) between the LTTE and the then government."

a familiar tale!!

there must be hundreds like this. we have to white van them ALL after they part with their valuable - most importantly, info.

Moshe Dyan said...

"malayalee M K Narayanan declares war on Tamil die-arse-pora
[ToiletNet, Wednesday, 16 September 2009, 11:54 GMT]


"The funding lines of the LTTE are still intact and there is always a possibility that disgruntled elements in the Tamil diaspora across the globe could get together to help the terror outfit regroup and rearm," said M K Narayanan"

mk narayan is one of four malayalees who engineered the arseeraape of eazyham tam-ill tigers. the other 3 are, ak anthony, nabiar (not the toilet mobile phone a-hole), can't remember. tamil madu and kerala had a long standing dispute dating back to pre-colonial times.

lol!

Moshe Dyan said...

excellent move, again, narayan. help SL get to these terrorists. they are a threat to india too.

don't be fooled by political solution crap. LTTE is still around. we have to get rid of them first b4 a PS.

TropicalStorm said...

Moshe

I've supported the present SLG in its war against terrorism without any reservations.
But events since then are starting to make me rather uncomfortable, particluarly since I was a first hand witness to the level of arrogant behaviour these guys exhibit towards fellow Sri Lankans on a daily basis. For the average Sri Lankan, whether sinhalese or tamil, life is not going to become easier, but rather promises to be bleaker if this trend continues.
We do hear of all these stories of how the govt is committed to eliminate thuggery, corruption etc, but what's rally happening is that they are eliminating political opponents and even potential future threats under the guise of that doubtful and debatable legitimacy.

I only hope that ten years from now, all Sri Lankans will NOT be praying to a foreign power to invade us in order to save us from the present outfit.

Remember the guys who appointed themselves to be the 'sole-representatives' of someone, a few years ago, and how that ended?
History has a way of repeating, and we may be witnessing the start of the next vicious cycle of that same history, this time it being the turn of the sinhalese...

scary, man, scary.

Anonymous said...

/MR's chair incident is ugly./

You fell off from a chair.. then what u should do? Get another one if needed, sit again, move on with your work.

I really can't explain this but I am pretty sure using some college pysics you can understand why imbalance happened; probably this can't be a result of saturn moving..lolz

Piyasisri says his ministry has no part in seating arrangements which was done by PSD. PSD says they found nothing wrong in the chair. Anyway this is a simple usual thing. BTW, did vezapillai fell down from a chair..? HIKz

KB said...

[Badri is the original blog owner of Puligal.blogspot but he decided to take the time off for a while, so i've become a temporary admin.]
Bhairav, my poor fellow, is he by any chance suffering from Eelam Deficit Disorder (EDD)?

Cheers!

MayilRavana මයිල් රාවන said...

Moshe,

"let me repeat...LTTE did NOT commit war crimes. it was tamil separatists who committed war crimes in aranthalawa, etc., etc."



100% with you; it ain't over yet.

CASC,
Good to see the Indian side of the War against LTTE. While we don't have to bend over, we must keep in mind the importance of India fro SL's own survival. In fact SL might be the only truly loyal neighbor India can count on at present.
Both need each other.

Ananda, Sam etc.
Yo!

Moshe Dyan said...

TS,

mate, fully agree with you except for this part.

"but what's rally happening is that they are eliminating political opponents and even potential future threats under the guise of that doubtful and debatable legitimacy."

this is NOT happening actually.

1. there were no attacks on UNP, JVP, TNA fellows by the govt.

election time attacks and village level attacks are too common at ALL TIMES and there is no govt involvement.

2. abductions, mysrious deaths didn't kill ANY political activist

3. ANY ONE can critisize the govt and nothing happens. all the private media do that BIG TIME. nothing happens.

critisising the military apparatus is a different thing.

govt being SELECTIVE in choosing to punish those who cross military matters is a different thing. it is legit.

e.g. there are 10,000 NGO, media, etc. fellows critisising the defence strategy and call it genocide, war crimes, etc., etc. and demands the blood of sovereign SL.

instead of punishing the 10,000; the govt PICKS a few who are also political opponents.

this is JUST & FAIR bcos they ANYWAY need to be punished for anti-SL & anti-defence work.


the others are lucky, that's all.

e.g. when i was in primary school i had a fight with my friend who was a prefect and i was not in that year. during the recess prefects used to catch guys who run!!! (strange, strange come to think of it!!).

as expected alot of kids ran!! hora-police was a hit among the kids.

my firend caught me and produced at the principal's office. i cried and explained to pina what happened. he believed me. but he said, I had been naughty comitted an offence and that's all that mattered!!. others are lucky to get away. MAY be they might get caught one day. i was caned. fair.

if i were to escape punishment, i should not have violated the rules.

Moshe Dyan said...

i don't think the rejection of channel-4 BULLSHIT hit home. even for some patriots. you have seen the full ppt presentation of this. but stil..."

the point is this. a camaera phone cannot record the images and sounds seperately. there is absolutely NO WAY the sound track and images do not go together.

this means the vid is fake WITHOUT ANY DOUBT.

IF a sound track was introduced to a GENUINE video, then there is no proof that the killers were talking in sinhala!!!

anyway there is another clip which i posted a few days back, where they talk in TAMIL!!

Bhairav said...

TropicalStorm,

Be a moda Sinhalese and stay in the Mahinda bandwagon, or face the fate of "Rana" who was isolated by the fellow hawkish modas bcoz he bashed GoSL to some extent whenever he was drunk.

Learn the trade from Sammy Sosa how he plays the patriotic card and steal few lines from Ananda-Sellout's postings, you will become lead patriotic Moda here.

MayilRavana මයිල් රාවන said...

Will the real Stone-Dick stand up!

Konnapu Bandara said...
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KB said...

Firstly that this footage was not videoed using a mobile phone camera as was stated in the Broadcast but rather by a device such as a digital camcorder.

Secondly that the audio track was clearly dubbed and, thirdly the sound of the shooting was coming from a long distance rather than that of a gun from point blank range as shown in the video.

Clarifying his findings Major P.A Bandara showed that the so called previously "killed" man has his leg kept parallel to the ground in one frame. As soon as the other man is "shot" the dead man's leg is lifted up.



Moshe, old boy, above points from the article in defnce.lk need to be spread far and wide in every blog and news comment section that spreads these falsehoods about Lanka. Yes, we did wipe out the dastardly terrorists without mercy, but there is no real proof existing of the way it was done. What's left are the nightmares Peelam retards suffering from EDD (Eelam Deficit Disorder) see every night. I am sure most of the retards suffering from EDD also now have ED (Erectile Dysfunction).

Cheers!

Anonymous said...

/So best way to handle this issue is to devide the area in blocks , exactly like, what we did for oil exploration and ask those crying countries to demine and gurantee the safaty and basic devolopment of the area to resettle the IDP.

Problem is solved./

Problem created.

We need to get rid of sub-contracting mentality. We won the war by ourselves and not sub-contracting.

This is some thing west actually asking for. (Ibba diyata damma wage…) This time west will use INGOs avoiding last time errors.. We rather suggest them to donate good demining machines and show their concern by deeds not words. (GSL spend a lot on buying them.)

Bhairav said...

If anyone thinks that they can get away by killing 30k+ innocent Tamils brutally in less than 5 months span, they're clearly in moda's paradise.

MayilRavana මයිල් රාවන said...

Moshe,
I saw the "original" CH-4 video in Tamil from a link in Lankaweb. Has this been "tested" in the same as the CH-4 video to establish its authenticity? How was the "original" obtained. Anyone know?

All the other features proving that this was faked are there:

Leg of a previously dead man moving (voluntarily)
Blood spread
Unsynchronised audio
Skin colour of the majority particiapnts (if you live in Sri Lanka we all get a tone or two darker than we would be if we lived in different latitudes. Any one who visits Sl after being in cooler climes for about a month will attest to this) etc.

I live in a country where the natural grass is quite different to that of SL. Look at the grass! There is an artificial structure in the distance which looks like a microwave tower. Where was this video taken. Can some one with access to the HD video work out the locality? Even the trees in the distance should be scanned to identity locality.

GOSL should be able to take CH-4 to the cleaners with this. Followup with Al Jazeera and CNN.

STONE-DICK

Who are the Modayas now?

KB said...

[If anyone thinks that they can get away by killing 30k+ innocent Tamils brutally in less than 5 months span, they're clearly in moda's paradise.]
This poor fellow, Bhairav, has EDD, ED, VD and is smoking a Bedi. Furthermore the poor bugger sees General Sarath Fonseka RWP, RSP, VSV, USP, rcds, psc, SLSR in his nightmares.

Cheers!

Anonymous said...

@ MD and TS Re: MR

MR will not be there forever. He has to leave one day. Ha has the choice now to decide whether to go home after his second term as respected leader or start going downward direction in politics.

All the politicians in general are corrupted. Public ignore such corruption, thuggery and jokes upto certain extent and until an alternative is seen. It seems MR and SLFP politicos has estimated that they can go beyond the average limit due to the war victory.

MR 80% election margin is not an equilibrium state. Its an unstable, maximum. We should expect this to settle down some where closer to the equilbrium which is around 50%. What we see today is very unusual political dynamics due to the war victory; I don't know how long it will last.

Having no alternatives from opposition is not good for the country (though it makes things easy for any ruling party.) I don't see such emerging politicians from UNP.

People who originally UNP and supported MR during war will probably switch; Its a matter of time - as one could see even from blogs nowadays. Question is will they find real leaders for their party?

Bhairav said...

Ninja,

You often talk about the equilibrium bcoz your dik subsidizes your head?

Moshe Dyan said...

"poor bugger sees General Sarath Fonseka RWP, RSP, VSV, USP, rcds, psc, SLSR in his nightmares."

OMG!!!

this is like many LTTE female cadres (and male cadres too) dreaming about IPKF "sexual atrocities" EVERY NIGHT as stated by rajini thiranagama!!

what a punishment.

the modayaland has gone TRANSNATIONAL!!!! NO land at all!!! can there be worse dumbasses than these???. i mean NO LAND AT ALL!!

lol!!

this is getting funnier.

only BLOODYRAV can come up with this type of crap. i can see his handle again after a long time. bugger is revisiting DW in search of BULLSHIT to prepare "thiruneeru" (holy ash on his thangachchi's forehead)!!!

wearing BULLSHIT on forehead???? disgusting??? no. it gives intelligence to get arse raaped from modaya chingala army and the modaya IPKF army.

Ananda-USA said...

MayilRavana,

Yo, Hoo! Good to see you popping up to join in the fray, sgain, bro!

Moshe Dyan said...
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Thusitha said...

TropicalStorm said...
Moshe

I've supported the present SLG in its war against terrorism without any reservations.
But events since then are starting to make me rather uncomfortable, particluarly since I was a first hand witness to the level of arrogant behaviour these guys exhibit towards fellow Sri Lankans on a daily basis. For the average Sri Lankan, whether sinhalese or tamil, life is not going to become easier, but rather promises to be bleaker if this trend continues.
We do hear of all these stories of how the govt is committed to eliminate thuggery, corruption etc, but what's rally happening is that they are eliminating political opponents and even potential future threats under the guise of that doubtful and debatable legitimacy.

I only hope that ten years from now, all Sri Lankans will NOT be praying to a foreign power to invade us in order to save us from the present outfit.

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Mate,
Most probably you might be right on some of the stuff you are saying. But can we cut some slack to MR for year or two.

The war finished only few months ago. There is still a need for very strict control of the media and people. As you can see, the threat to the country is definitely not over. Every one want to destroy MR now. It seem like they are creating lot of BS stories just to discredit MR. That is the only way that they can take MR down.

Think about it, if MR goes, who is our alternative? Some one from UNP? The country would be given back to LTTE within few months after UNP coming to power. Are there any one who is capable of running this country at this stage other than MR? If not, we need to give our full support to him for at least 1, 2 years. Then only we should start complaining.
When things settle down and we are sure there is no chance of LTTE or their sympathasiers getting hold of the country, then scheme as much as you want to get rid of MR. At this stage, I don't believe it is the right thing to do. If we create instability in our country, the people who would end up suffering is our armed forces.

I believe the harbour at Hambontota is one of MRs idea. If that is the case, this would be one of the best things any President has done this country (Would be second to the ethnic integration drive by DS.). If we properly take advantage of this, SL would be in a very good position for future growth.

Can't you remember all these neigh sayers (Specially Peters regular currency updates) about SL would be getting ruined economically. And see what is happening within few months after winning the war. So be bit patient. We waited thirty years and what does it matter another year or two.

TropicalStorm said...

Ninja

The Rajapaksa clan will want the world to think they can do 'a la Singapore' in their own style. Even India may believe in such a happening, which they can then flaunt as their creation; just as they claim the military victory to be somehow theirs..
This rationale harks back to the days of the cold war, when the US created pockets of prosperity as show-pieces for the socialist bloc to watch; Japan as a model for against the USSR, S.Korea against the North, Taiwan & HK ag. Red China.
The Indians can be expected to follow in the foot steps of the US, in particular when it comes to regional politics, including the adoption of tactics similar to the Monroe doctrine for military intervention.
Bet your socks on this; MR and clan will play the Indians' and everyone else' hiden agendas for their family's personal gain. Any economic fall-out that benefits the country will be incidental.

TropicalStorm said...

Thusitha

I agree with you that MR needs the support of the electorate at this point, but these guys are going to tale that for granted, and will game the system over the long term.

Of course we will then have to vote them out. But for now we need to support them.

My point being; we need to be loyal to the country, and not any person or party. If that lesson isn't learnt, then we haven't learnt anything from the most horrendous tragedy of our times.

TropicalStorm said...

Bhairav

To start with, it was the LTTE that killed most of the Tamils. So if you are waiting for a judgement day when the bad sinhalese are going to face your foreign 'massah's firing squad, then you've surely lost your marbles.

BHut, don't believe me..just wait and see..

Moshe Dyan said...

TS, ninja, mayil and thusitha,

i want MR to be there for a long time. but i want him to be the same he WAS. hardworking, DOWN TO EARTH. not premadasa style. but unfortunately he is moving in that direction.

we have to bring him to the right path than scrap him altogether.

MR has not been reckless economy-wise. he has done a great deal. MOST of his work are yet to bear fruit.

Anonymous said...

TS

Your claim could be either true or false. Let's assume its true. What's the solution / alternative? Unless and until nation finds leaders better than present ones, they will stay with Rajapakse clan instead of RW-CBK-Mongal clan (no matter how they treat their families).

TropicalStorm said...

Mayil Ravana

These videos are the creation of a group called 'war without witness'. These were the same guys who circulated pictures of large numbers of 'dead' who were actually quite alive when found later by SLA forces. They'd been made to lie on the ground like dead and photographed, for propaganda purposes.
Our guys not only found the alive 'dead bodies' but have located the positions and the other material used in manufacturing such 'evidence'.

TropicalStorm said...

Ninja

That's a self-defeating argument. The 'next demon is worse' never got anyone anywhere in life. Leaders are not born, they are made. If you look for the same solutions in the same places we've looked all this time, the same solutions are going to be found.

That's why we will need to find leaders elsewhere.
Never under-estimate Sri Lanka's potential as a country to find people of ingenuity. Our failurte has been our reluctance to stray from the beaten path.
When we broke off from the old path, we won the war.
If we again break from the beaten path, who knows, little known talent may surface to lead the nation in the right direction. It is a risk we have to take, perhaps in a couple of years time..not today.

Anonymous said...

/we have to bring him to the right path than scrap him altogether./

That's what country needs at this moment. Real patriots are reluctant to go against MR now as even now west/ LTTE di-ass-pora trying hard to remove him. Those NGOs, INGOs, 8-man organizations critizising MR now have their own agenda which is focused on their personal growth.

Ananda-USA said...

Patriots,

These are comments I posted at ExpressBuzz.com on various topics. Please feel free to use these as appropriate.


Comment#1:

Guess what? The Ferocious Fighters of Tamil Eelam got OUTFOUGHT and WIPED OUT in the Wanni in Sri Lanka. In the past, they BRAGGED ad nauseam about the MILITARY GENIUS of the SUN GOD Thalaivar .. the ANOINTED ONE! WE heard ... ad nauseam... about the "Cease Waves" of "Ferocious Tigers" running amok! Now ALL OF THAT BRAVADO is GONE FOR GOOD. Now, they are WAILING all over the world claiming to be ABSOLUTELY INNOCENT VICTIMS OF VIOLENCE. VICTIMS my BLOODY FOOT! The VICTIMS are the over 100,000 innocent civilians shot in the head, blasted into pieces, sliced and chopped every which way, strung up from lamp posts, driven away from their homes in ethnic cleansing, mothers wailing for their kidnapped children, while the LEADERS of these MONSTERS lived luxurious lives in MANSIONS with SWIMMING POOLS ... in Sri Lanka! BLOODY CON ARTISTS from beginning to END! Ferocious TIGERS then, PUSSY CATS now!

Comment #2:

OK, Guys...How many of you are WEEPING for the SUN GOD. Raise your hands now, DON'T BE SHY! What only 0.05% of the AUDIENCE? Now WHY is THAT? This guy tortured thousands of Tamils and Sinhala people in BARBED WIRE CELLS in the now liberated TOTURE CAMPS in the Wanni. Soon, these CAMPS will be on the "Sri Lankan Holocaust Museums" circuit for all to see. He gave orders for over 150,000 people to be shot dead, blown to bits, hacked to pieces, starved to death in his WANNI GULAG and all over Sri Lanka. If you still feel sorry for this MASS MURDERER, then I advise IMMEDIATE PSYCHOTHERAPY for you. Velupillai Prabhakaran and his MURDEROUS CREW deserved EVERYTHING they got; it was nothing less than POETIC JUSTICE! Please don't SHED any tears for this man and his followers!

Comment #3:

Ah, yes! The AXE murderers of the LTTE are now preaching non-violence and democracy. When blasting over 100,000 people to bits, hacking entire villages of people to death, and killing all dissenters among their own people, failed to win a racist mono-ethnic aparthied Eelam state, we now have the same people preaching the virtues of democracy to us. Democracy there was, before all this violence was unleashed upon the people of Sri Lanka, and to democracy we will return the entire island of Sri Lanka, when this war is won in its entirety. One country, one people, one destiny, equal rights and responsibilities. No Eelams. Patriotic Indians watchout...these same arguments will be offered by these same separatists to destroy your own country from within!

Comment #4:

DIRE PREDICTIONS OF HUMANITARIAN DISASTERS, by self-serving TAMIL TIGER activists, stoked the flames consuming the GULLIBLE. "KILINOCHCHI will be Sri Lanka Army's STALINGRAD" cried the LTTE propagandists, the PUSILLANIMOUS PUNDITS of yesteryear. Other NATTERING NABOBS OF NEGATIVITY conjured up images of DHARMA-ASOKA's bloody victory in KALINGA over two millinenia ago, sweeping the seminal result of that victory under the proverbial carpet: It laid the basis for the GOLDEN ASOKAN AGE of INDIA. The eradication of the LTTE by leaf, branch, trunk and root from SRI LANKA will now usher in A GOLDEN RAJAPAKSIAN AGE for SRI LANKA securing to President Mahinda Rajapakasa IMMORTAL FAME. In contrast, Prabhakaran will be PILLORIED in human history, and hung up in the company of ADOLF HITLER and POL POT, as the most diabolical and monstrous leaders OF ALL TIME!

Ananda-USA said...

ExpressBuzz Comments

.....continued....

Comment #5:

President Mahinda Rajapakse is the ELECTED PRESIDENT of a THRIVING DEMOCRACY as old as INDIA's own. As US President ABRAHAM LINCOLN, and his disciple PRESIDENT GOWON of Nigeria, did in the US and Nigerian civil wars, Mahinda Rajapakse has brought a war of NATIONAL LIBERATION & NATIONAL REUNIFICATION sucessfully to a close. His GOAL is to eradicate a monstrous movement of MASS MURDERERS seeking to create a racist mono-ethnic aparthied state by leaf, branch, trunk and root from our MOTHERLAND of SRI LANKA to preserve its UNITY and the right of its people to pursue life, liberty and happiness without let or hindrance. He will BIND and HEAL the wounds of our nation in the coming years and usher in a GOLDEN ASOKAN AGE to SRI LANKA, as the Great Dharma-Asoka of old did after the Kalinga wars in INDIA.

Comment #6:

The MAHAVAMSA .. The Great Chronicle of Kingship in Sri Lanka .. assailed as a "monumental yarn" by the INCURABLY DISAPPOINTED EELAM RACISTS lamenting their losses, played a pivotal role in unraveling the glorious history of ancient INDIA. Without the MAHAVAMSA epic, the GOLDEN ASOKAN AGE would have remained shrouded in the mist of time; and the ASOKAN STANDARD would not grace the NATIONAL FLAG of India today. Indians would have been robbed of the memory of their glorious monarch who not only UNIFIED the land and its diverse peoples by CONQUEST, but also enacted DHARMISHTA LAWS founded upon the TEACHINGS of that other GREAT SON of INDIA, the GAUTAMA BUDDHA. Our SINHALA ancestors, descended from India, accepted EMPEROR ASOKA's gift of BUDDHISM, making them OUR VERY OWN TREASURE. Through MILLENIA, they dedicated themselves, to ensuring that this hallowed heritage SHALL NOT PERISH in Sri Lanka.We, their PATRIOTIC DESCENDANTS, continue their march towards the Asokan Ideal of DHARMISHTA RULE, with kindness and compassion for the innocent and deserving, and unwavering firmness towards all who trangress upon our sovereignty and our people.

Comment #7:

EELAMISTS vent their frustrations against the MAHAVAMSA (The Great Chronicle of Sri Lanka) bemoaning the lack of a comparable LITERARY HERITAGE and HISTORICAL RECORD of their ancestors achievements. But, know this: The Mahavamsa is only the TIP of the LITERARY ICEBERG that underpins the SINHALA HERITAGE; it is supported by the CHULAVAMSA (The Lesser Chronicle), the DIPAVAMSA (The Island Chronicle), the RAJAVALIYA (The Regal Heritage), the PUJAVALIYA (The Religious Heritage), the HANSA SANDESAYA (The Swan's Message), the SALALIHINI SANDESAYA (The Nightingale's Message), the PARANGI HATANA (The Portuguese War) .....Ad Infinitum....recounting the heritage and the struggle of the Sinhala people to DEFEND and PRESERVE whole their Resplendent Nation of Sri Lanka. May CONFUSION and PAIN reign among Sri Lanka's ENEMIES. DEATH to the EELAMISTS!

Comment # 8:

Our good friends and relatives in India INDEED won the final Compaq Cup cricket match, and we congratulate them for a game WELL PLAYED! The previous match was won BIG by Sri Lanka! We will work and play, WIN & LOSE to each other NOW and FOREVER in a spirit of GOOD FELLOWSHIP. No amount of KEROSINE poured on this RELATIONSHIP by EELAMISTS seeking to DIVIDE & CONQUER will destroy this umbilical RELATIONSHIP between our two countries. So, VENT your ANGER & FRUSTRATION as much as YOU LIKE, my LTTE Dia-ASS-Pora monkeys, but YOU WILL NOT ACHIEVE your GOAL of driving a WEDGE between us!

Ananda-USA said...

Konappu Bandara said...

[[If anyone thinks that they can get away by killing 30k+ innocent Tamils brutally in less than 5 months span, they're clearly in moda's paradise.]
This poor fellow, Bhairav, has EDD, ED, VD and is smoking a Bedi. Furthermore the poor bugger sees General Sarath Fonseka RWP, RSP, VSV, USP, rcds, psc, SLSR in his nightmares.]

KB,

You don't understand, brother...only the LTTE .. the Ferocious Tigers .. are allowed to kill like that.

Sneaking up on innocent villagers at night and hacking them all to death, executing over 1,000 prisoners after extracting their blood for their blood bank, bombing hundreds and thousands of people to bits... these are acts reserved for courageous Fearsome Tiger warriors. SINHALA MODAYAS are not allowed to WIPE out Ferocious Tigers in battle when they REFUSE to SURRENDER ... NO, NO, that is GENOCIDE!

Well, looks like the FEROCIOUS TIGERS got their Comeuppance in Trumps; now they are all VICTIMS WAILING like PUSSY TATS!

Than, Bethakawath Bhayanaka Demala Kotiyek Hoyaganna Barilu, UN Okkama Civiliansla!!

Moshe Dyan said...

if "genocide" can turn tamil tiger terrorists into "tamil civilians", INSTANTLY, we know what to do!!!!

Moshe Dyan said...

if "genocide" can turn tamil tiger terrorists into "tamil civilians", INSTANTLY, we know what to do!!!!

Thusitha said...

TropicalStorm said...
That's why we will need to find leaders elsewhere.
Never under-estimate Sri Lanka's potential as a country to find people of ingenuity. Our failurte has been our reluctance to stray from the beaten path.
When we broke off from the old path, we won the war.
If we again break from the beaten path, who knows, little known talent may surface to lead the nation in the right direction. It is a risk we have to take, perhaps in a couple of years time..not today.


--------------------------------
Mate,
We need to think about the cost and benefit and risk rewards.

For the last thirty years, I can't say that I like any of the leaders. So what makes you think that we will find someone after MR.

Say there is this possibility, but is it worth the risk at the this moment. As far as I am concerned it is not worth it.

Also don't worry too much about MR holding to power for too long. We are Sri Lankans. We are well known for dragging people down instead of helping them to go up. Haha.

---------------------------------
---------------------------------
MD, you are right about making sure MR stays the same. But what I believe what is happening here is that NGOs, other government e.t.c and of course the LTTE media doing their level best to make the people go against MR. As an example, who made such a big deal about MR falling down? Who publish that story? I mean is it newsworthy? Most probably these people have their own agendas.

We should not concentrate on MRs day to day stuff. We should look at MRs macro policies and where that would leads our country in next 5-10 years.

Moshe Dyan said...

thusitha,

"We should not concentrate on MRs day to day stuff. We should look at MRs macro policies"

yes. at the same time MR should not allow day to day stuff affect his good name.

MR's popularity is falling.

may 09 - 85%
june 09 - 80%
july 09 - 75%
aug 09 - 70%
sep 09 - 65%
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.
.
.
jan - 45%?????

its not the NGOs sakkili behaviour but HOW MR takes up the challenge that decides his popularity.

there are plenty of other challenges that makes him unpopular.

e.g. mervyn, GSP+, IDPs (at least among the IDPs), election violence, corruption, nepotism, waste, 110 ministers, etc.

so he needs all the popularity in the world.

there is another side to it. the larger his parliamentary team, the better. if close to 150, there is a chance of making some VITAL constitutional changes. this is a tough call but it becomes tougher if MR doesn't at least maintain his popularity.

the hard working, honest, down to earth MR won the 2005 PE. that is biggest proof of success if he retain the same traits.

Ananda-USA said...

US to in crease troop level in Afghanistan from 62,000 by as much as 45,000

My advice is increase by 150,000 much faster while growing the Afghan Army to 500,000+ and pumping in money for economic development.

Security is critical, but livelihoods must also be secure. The Afghans must have more to do than grow poppies!

.............
Request for more troops 'very soon'

Politico.com
By Jen Mascio
September 16, 2009

The nation’s top military leader told the Senate Armed Services Committee Tuesday that top Pentagon officials will likely support a request that will come “very soon” for additional troops for the war Afghanistan.


Though Adm. Michael Mullen, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, has not yet seen a formal request for more U.S. troops, the commander of U.S. forces in Afghanistan, Gen. Stanley McChrystal, recently completed an assessment of progress in Afghanistan that recommended revising how the United States implements its war-fighting strategies there. Many analysts said McChrystal’s report was a precursor to a request for more soldiers.


And after hearing those recommendations, Mullen said Tuesday, he concluded that “a properly resourced counter-insurgency probably means more troops.”


He elaborated, saying that during the war in Iraq, the nation learned valuable lessons about fighting counterinsurgencies, including that those campaigns needed to be “properly resourced.” And the fight in Afghanistan has been shortchanged for the last eight years, he said.


In Afghanistan, Mullen said, he and the service chiefs, McChrystal and Gen. David Petraeus, the commander of Central Command, support waging a classic “properly resourced” counterinsurgency.


“You can’t do that from offshore, and you can’t do that by just killing the bad guys. You have to be there,” Mullen said. “This is Gen. McCrystal’s view and my view and that of Gen. Petraeus and the Joint Chiefs.”

Sen. John McCain, the committee’s ranking member, who backed a surge of U.S. forces in Iraq, said he now wants to see that strategy replicated in Afghanistan.


“We will need more combat troops in Afghanistan – not less,” McCain said.

Anonymous said...

/UN Under Secretary General for Humanitarian Affairs John Holmes says the United Nations was “extremely frustrated” with the lack of progress in various areas since the end of the conflict in Sri Lanka, particularly with regards to what has been happening to the internally displaced persons./

/UNICEF website says, in Sudan, "Some 4.7 million people are currently directly affected by the conflict, out of a total population of around 6.2 million" IDMC says, " 2.5 million people are internally displaced in Europe and Central Asia" "There were an estimated 11.6 million IDPs in Africa" There are 3.1 million IDPS in middle east./

Extremely NOT Frustrated..

Ananda-USA said...

UN, EU adopting double standards: Lanka

P K Balachandran
ExpressBuzz.com
September 17, 2009

COLOMBO: Sri Lanka has accused the UN and the European Union (EU) of adopting double standards in regard to allegations of human rights violations in the island nation.

At the 12th session of the UN Human Rights Council in Geneva on Tuesday, Sri Lanka’s Attorney General, Mohan Peiris, said the European Convention on Human Rights (ECHR) did not confer unfettered expression granting a licence to indulge in sedition and terrorism.

“I would invite the attention of the Council to Borgan vs United Kingdom (1998), where the UK used derogation in relation to the Prevention of Terrorism (Temporary Provisions) Act 1974-1989, permitting the detention of terrorist suspects without access to a court of law, which was otherwise in contravention of Article 5 (the Right of Liberty).

It is thus preposterous that double standards have to be applied when it comes to Lanka,” Peiris said. He pointed out that in October 2002, even the Inter-American Commission had occasion to comment that freedom of expression was qualifiable and derogable in times when terrorism had to be combatted.

TISSAINAYAGAM CASE: On the sentencing of Tamil journalist J S Tissanayagam to 20 years RI, Peiris said the UN Human Rights Commissioner Navaneetham Pillay had failed to refer to the most serious of the charges levelled against the scribe — that he had received money from the LTTE and used those funds to propagate the LTTE’s cause of terrorism.

“These facts have never been denied by Tissanayagam.

It is, therefore, unfair and misleading to insinuate that Tissanayagam was convicted merely for criticising Sri Lanka’s army in two publications,” he said.

CHANNEL 4: Sri Lanka had decided to send the Attorney General to the UK to examine the possibility of filing a case again st the British TV station, Channel 4, for airing what it considers to be a doctored video on the execution of Tamils. Channel 4 has also volunteered to show to the Lankan government a video on the allegedly pathetic conditions in the camps.

EU TRADE CONCESSION: According to media reports, the EU had handed over to Colombo a list of human rights violations, and Colombo had replied. The EU is to decide in October if, in view of alleged human rights violation, products from the island nation should continue to get zero duty entry into its member countries.

Jay said...

ANDY DUNCAN, CEO of C4 RESIGNS (before he got the sack)FOR MISMANAGEMENT.

I cant wait for Walter Jayawardne or Asoka Weerasinghe to pick this story with a "slant" on Lankaweb.

soorapappa...සූරපප්පා said...

Hi guys,
Not followed or read comments for some time. Received below e mail this morning. Interesting !!!
“The LTTE in SL army uniforms killing their own people...
Dear Friends,
Mr. xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (an internet pal of mine who is also a Royalist and had been here in Japan) informed that he had found the ORIGINAL video which was faked and telecasted on CHANNEL 4, UK to tarnish the image of Sri Lanka and our armed forces.
He has already uploaded the said video on this web portal, SRI LANKA ALMANAC VIDYUTH KOSHAYA.
http://www.sri-lanka-almanac.com/sri_lanka_almanac_tamil_tiger_ltte_terrorism_portal/channel_4/original_video.html”

soorapappa...සූරපප්පා said...

link again

http://www.sri-lanka-almanac.com/sri_lanka_almanac_tamil_tiger_ltte
_terrorism_portal/channel_4/original_video.html

Jay said...

Soorappa,
Its kind of old news. Saw the "original" fake video last week.
In any case the horse has already bolted...

It's highly unlikely the West is going to take any notice due to credibility issue.

Sujeewa Kokawala said...

Jay;

It's highly unlikely the West is going to take any notice on any war crime videos anyway.

Only the hawks on NGOs, and eelamists are screeming.

If any authority takes it to notice, sure enough it suddenly becomes "contreversial".

What si your gain out of it?

1. defame SL in world population?

Oh they'll give rat's care

2. punish SL via UN?

Already proven it is fake, so you can have a hearing and confirm it.

3. Make eelamists happy?

Like cyber sex, yeah.

4. Waste more mutti kasi on lobbyists and journalists?

Yeah you have to.

But indirectly you have a -1 point.

-1 making Ch4 liable for us. If it is possible to sue them, that will conclude our long fight with them.

I pity you guys.

Sujeewa Kokawala said...

Buy-raw;

"30k civilians included > 25k listed [and there are more unlisted] terras as every terra is a civilan". Yes we killed them. That si what they called war against terror. Whole point of that war was to kill the terrorists.

NOLTTE=Peace said...

Soorapappa,

What you claim is true, please submit the link of the Original Video to the Defence Ministry.

It may not be old news.

No_MESS said...

The West has indeed taken notice of the fake video!

Alston acknowledges Channel 4 video inconclusive

BTW –It’s amusing to see Trans-Patriots, looking down on true PATRIOTS of the likes of Walter Jayawardne and Asoka Weerasinghe

Jay said...

SK,

Think you failed to realise that, in the absence of independent observers, journalists and other recognised organisation allowed access to the camps and the war torn areas plus the expulsion of the likes of James Elder, any video (false or not) will be taken seriously by the West and the Western media as we have recently witnessed with the C4 videos.

The West have nothing to lose. SL has lot to lose.

C4, Al Jazeera, CNN, BBC will continue to air videos from the North and interviews with released IDP(or should thet be called returnees?) until GOSL allow independent access. What is GOSL afraid of? What are they hiding?
De-mining excuse is a load of bullshit. They can easily cordon off places they believed to be mined. Terrorist hiding among the civilians. Yes, thats possible but then again the 200 odd thousand civilians have and would have been part of LTTE in some form or another.

Finally, people in here accuse me of being a terrorist, terrorist lover, eelamist etc for speaking against the Govt and standing up for basic human rights and freedom of expression. How wrong you are and i have no wish to waste my time to convince otherwise except to say over the past 5 years LTTE thugs in UK and France have hounded and threaten me at my home in London and in South of France.

A moderate stuck between a vicious blood thirsty terrorist group and a cruel,corrupt,weak, uncaring and thuggish government.

Sri Lankans (I mean the real ones living in SL) today recognise the dangerous trend of this government, where the “traitor” label is thrown out so freely to all those who disagree and the people are expected to cow down to unscrupulous characters.
When one’s own government can openly label someone a traitor for merely disagreeing with it, does this not in itself lay the framework for rebellion and separatism?


Finally, GOSL has a cat in hells chance of successfully suing C4 but i hope they do take legal action against C4. I want to the disclosures.

ps. what is mutti kasi? money?

Jay said...

No Mess-
Thank you for the DM article.

It hardly said anything new or anything at all but i like the sentenace..

“The only way to do this is for an independent and impartial investigation to take place,”

Jay said...

On second thoughts the DM article posted by No Mess shows that GOSL has shot itself in the foot.

No enquiry conducted by GOSL can be considered impartial or independent.

Sam Perera said...

Jay,

(1) Can you please tell us how an inquiry can be carried out without knowing when and where this alleged incident has happened?

(2) Can you please tell us how we do an investigation of dead bodies that move legs us and down?

CASC said...

No_MESS said...
The West has indeed taken notice of the fake video!
Alston acknowledges Channel 4 video inconclusive

No-Mess
Phillip Alston's acknowledgement is like Hans Blixe's admission after the invasion of Iraq that the evidence was false. I remember Collin Powell going to the UN General assembly with pictures of missile tubes and chemical weapons.

Just in case anyone forgot, it was Tony Blair who fired the Director General of the BBC because of
commentary critical of his Iraq policies. Then there was that
scientist Dr. David Kelley, who was undermining Tony Blair's dodgy
dossier by leaking information to the BBC. He was found with his
wrists slashed although his family members insist that he never
displayed any suicidal tendencies.
Probably a job done by MI5.

Two weeks ago the German Air Force killed 100 civillins in an incident in Afghanistan.

A poor country like Sri Lanka is supposed to get advice from the white hamuduruwas in matters of human rights. As I have said before Sri Lanka's future lies with partnering with China and India. As the former Indian Prime Minister Vajpayee said during the Queen's visit to India on the 50th anniversary of Independence, Britain is a third-rate world power. Its better to partner with the new asian powers than with the have-been colonials of this world.


http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/blair-arrives-in-bangladesh-urging-calm-in-the-region-672109.html

"Robin Cook, Mr Straw's predecessor as Foreign Secretary, got his fingers burnt during an earlier trip in 1997 by offering British help in Kashmir. The offer led to India describing Britain as "a third-rate power" and largely wrecked a state visit by the Queen marking the 50th anniversary of independence."

NOLTTE=Peace said...

Jay,

Keep contributing here. We would like to hear not only praise but criticism too. People like you contributing here brings in dialog, arguments, and counter arguments.

However, you should be strong enough if someone accuses you being a traitor or a terrorist. It comes as a parcel, when you disagree with anyone having strong views.

Your viewpoint on world matters (will say Sri Lankan matters) are important.

I may not agree with your view point in many occasions, but in many occasions your comments have given me the opportunity to remind about other viewpoints on similar matters.

"Your comments about IC has nothing to lose, but SL has many things to lose is a very valid and intelligent comment"

Yes, they can do whatever they want, whether right and wrong, as they have "power".

It reminds the GOSL to be innovative in its approach in dealing with IC.

Sujeewa Kokawala said...

Jay;

[[Think you failed to realise that, in the absence .... will be taken seriously by the West and the Western media as we have recently witnessed with the C4 videos.]]

West means who? Public? No, I don't think so. What you call by west are a handful of diplomats and NGO hawks. Well, for them, they're convinced of war crimes w/o any evidence anyway.

Real catch is how this one video once in a while is gonna impact public opinion. Especially when it makes a controversy rather than a conclusion.

If the public find GOSL is not so credible, equally they will be skeptical for what the pro-terror groups and hate groups deliver. It is even steven.


[[The West have nothing to lose. SL has lot to lose.]]

West as Diplomats right? I agree that there will be the odd diplomat who's always cursing a bad spell on SL. But they are not created by the video of Ch4. These buggers have deeper roots and more pragmatic reasoning.

There is no win or loss based on Ch 4 video. I doubt whether THAT can impact anything serious. In serious grounds itv will always be regarded contreversial


[[C4, Al Jazeera, CNN, BBC will continue to air ... until GOSL allow independent access.]]

Well, they will do it regardless that, only until there is a $$ value in SL. They will forget SL like they did with any other such country once the profits on its news start to fade.

[[What is GOSL afraid of? What are they hiding?]]

GOSL is not hiding anything. Any evidence of the killing of terrorists can be erased far faster than this. If there are matters to cover, I'm sure they will mobilise their 250k force into it ASAP.

[[De-mining excuse is a load of bullshit. They can easily cordon off places they believed to be mined.]]

As if you know what they're. I a strict sense the whole North shopuld be de-mined. But that will not be so. Faster the govt is pushed, more risk the civilians will have. Some more poor Wanni ppl to loose legs, thanks to the people whom push the govt to gain political mileage. Sadly these ppl have been seen as livestock by them for few decades now.

[[Terrorist hiding among the civilians. ... civilians have and would have been part of LTTE in some form or another.]]

Here you are reasoning fake. [And that is why I believe you're not genuinely anti-LTTE]. Obviously the idea is not to punish whoever helped pussycats in whatever way, but to find out the remaining hardliners whom, if released, will be the moral boosters for another eelam war. They do not number so many, only that they can't easily be found.

Regarding punishing GOSL is futuristicrather than retro-respective. Tissanayagam, Masters and Karuna explains you the policy on punishment.


[[Finally, people in here accuse me of being a terrorist, terrorist lover, ...]]

I have no strict label for you, but individually taken you have the habbit of pulling the foot of SL in matters that should be straight forward. Also you are hiding sonme facts very nakedly. This nature tells me that you're an enemy of state, but among the enemies there can be factions. I don't really care to know how connected you're with LTTE as i always say, they're only teh bloody tip of iceberg.

[[to be contd]]

Sujeewa Kokawala said...

[[continued]]


[[A moderate stuck between a vicious blood thirsty terrorist group and a cruel,corrupt,weak, uncaring and thuggish government.]]

Mostly such moderates are lunatics. Ones like A T Ariyaratne who'd meditate for the tigers to give up weapons. Be pragmatic, and you'll see taht there is nothing realistic left in the middle.

SL is not a purple democracy with thin-glass transparency. It has its own wounds. Nobody is perfect either. We are only parting teh matter between pragmatic and existent factions. We do not imagine some other kinds of people.

And we're critical on matters that count. But we do not deliberately pull the leg with hidden facts at hand


[[Sri Lankans (I mean the real ones living in SL) today recognise the dangerous trend of this government, where the “traitor” label is thrown out so freely to all those who disagree and the people are expected to cow down to unscrupulous characters.]]

I never care for teh label. At times when I feel things go wrong I do criticize. But I do not want to debate on 100% idealism. Just after war you guys demand some things atht do not even exist in the most peaceful countries in the world.

[[When one’s own government can openly label someone a traitor for merely disagreeing with it, does this not in itself lay the framework for rebellion and separatism?]]

Another daydream or lunatic claim. Govt never labelled individuals anyway. Certainly the separation and rebellion come as a reaction to matters in life, but we suppress them as they only makes things worse


[[Finally, GOSL has a cat in hells chance of successfully suing C4 but i hope they do take legal action against C4. I want to the disclosures.]]

Nor do I believe that we have a big chance, but we should try

[[ps. what is mutti kasi? money?]]

Good guess

CASC said...

Asian Tribune's write-up of the original fake video is good.

http://www.asiantribune.com/news/2009/09/17/channel-4-fake-video-footage-last-original-has-emerged

On the question of law suits, sometimes the purpose of a law suit is not necessarily to win but to cause your opponent to expend resources. That's the last thing any profit making coporation wishes to do.

If GOSL retains a law firm in the UK, then Channel 4 will have to do the same. According to the Independent article Channel 4 is 150 million pounds sterling in the red.

No_MESS said...

CASC - "According to the Independent article Channel 4 is 150 million pounds sterling in the red."
-------------------------
Yes, and ITN News who produces news programming for Channel 4 is in serious financial trouble too.
Link 1
Link 2

kevin said...

Sujeewa K said..
‘West means who? Public? No, I don't think so. What you call by west are a handful of diplomats and NGO hawks. Well, for them, they're convinced of war crimes w/o any evidence anyway.’
These guys who speak against and act against the interests of countries like SL has no mandate from their people.
These few who speak for West must address the issues that had arisen from the displacement of innocent people of a another island called Diageo Garcia where these innocent people are held up in a country thousands of miles away from their home land. People in the west are deadly against this but their politicians think otherwise

No_MESS said...

“But their argument doesn't ring true, particularly when the people being held in detention are Tamils and not Sinhalese. It's highly unlikely that Tamil villages are the only places where mines were laid, or where there is unexploded ordnance. So the argument of "protective custody" falls flat.”

Losing the peace in Sri Lanka - by Andrew E. Mathis.

There's One Born every second.

Moshe Dyan said...

i said so. its tru, unfortunately.

"Jaffna youths disinterested in joining police force
[TamilNet, Thursday, 17 September 2009, 05:23 GMT]
Despite efforts made by Minister Douglas Devananda to recruit Tamil young men and women from Jaffna district to serve in the police stations in Jaffna district only a few of them have shown interest, sources in Jaffna said. The minister made a public request in the media again Wednesday calling the Tamil youths to join the police force. Meanwhile, Tamil National Alliance (TNA) including its parliamentary leader R. Sampanthan and civil society representatives in Jaffna expressed strong protest against this scheme pointing out that the government, without placing a just political solution for the Tamils, is using this as a ploy to deceive the Tamils showing that it is sharing police powers with the Tamils in Jaffna."

few issues.

1. we need regional police officers.

2. outsiders cannot ALWAYS police ppl. this leads to alot of friction.

3. MOST ELECTED POLITICOS of the ppl of the north will always be TNA or any other similar "T".

4. they will ALWAYS disrupt this and ppl voted for them, ppl listen to them.

5. as the japanese mgt theory goes, if you can't overcome competition, CHANGE the 'battlefield'.

6. we have to change the ethnic composition in the north from tamil-only to MULTIETHNIC.

7. then ppl of all races will join the police and TNA would be a small party in the north. tamils will prefer multiethnic parties.

8. if the govt holds the northern PC election AFTER the southern PC election and BEFORE the presidential election, then it would be a wrong footing for the PE. govt will be heading into the PE with a LOSS at the previous election!!!

9. i'm 100% certain TNA, TULF, ITAK, and other tamil RACIST parties will win the NPC. (unless an EPDP 1994 thunderbolt operation is lauched on the election day).

10. ITAK, TULF, TNA = "ethnic" problem

Anonymous said...

/Alston says government probe into video inconclusive
UN Special Rapporteur Philip Alston has said that he could attest, based on the information made available by the Government, that four separate investigations undertaken into the controversial Channel 4 video have been “prompt” but was not thorough or impartial./

You can't wake up who pretends sleeping...

Anonymous said...

http://www.island.lk/2009/09/18/news20.html

GR knows what west is up to...

Anonymous said...

http://www.dailymirror.lk/DM_BLOG/Sections/frmNewsDetailView.aspx?ARTID=61796

If they sang this song earlier they could have saved all those tamils who died for a grade 5 drop out..

Sam Perera said...

Ninja,

"GR knows what west is up to..."

We all knew what US is up to for a while, that is to maintain their instrument of interference in our countries. Now that LTTE is eradicated from SL but some are remaining in US and the west,it will be interesting to see how they are going to follow this up. After all, all the dirty covert moves by US in UN was defeated by our diplomatic warriors and it is unlikely that they will ask for another round of dance. Furthermore, we don't get a thing from US and the general public doesn't view US in any favorable light like we used to do. Therefore, US has little or no leverage in turning our knobs. Any dirty action by US and the west against our forces will make the people of SL more independent and view the west in a very negative light. General impact of this pro-terrorist acts by US will be that average Sri Lankans will be more hostile towards western diplomats.

Anonymous said...

These so called war crimes allegations, human rights violation accusations, IDP resettlement demands, demands for "independent" inquiries, demands for probes for videos, UN clowns visits etc etc all are just one step in west's strategy for taming SL. Next step is finance related threats, cutting GSP+ etc.

Do you think is it possible that any media professional in any reputed media channel airing some bogus video for no reason? All western agents, UN coolies, INGO crows, refugees in opposition, and former LTTE propaganda fronts (aka western media) are now in well planned, well organized combined effort against and in taming SL...

We can win this war too.. Public need to understand the reality, make GSL to take correct moves, use right people, put the GSL in right direction, back the leaders, be unite and play the cards wisely..

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Ananda-USA said...

My Comments at UN, EU adopting double standards: Lanka

Comment #1:

Western Double Standards rejected by the World. Terrorists hiding behind Civilians and yelling "genocide" FAILED to HOODWINK the world. These western countries, their politicians handsomely paid by the LTTE, want to keep wars going in emerging Third World nations, to destabilize them, weaken them and prevent the emergence of NEW COMPETITORS to their ECONOMIC DOMINANCE. They are against TERRORISM only when their own economies are affected; BUT terrorism in emerging countries should be FOSTERED! HYPOCRITES !

Comment #2:

LTTE Eelamists write here defaming both the SINHALA people and their leaders, and the TAMIL People under Sinhala names to mislead Indian Tamils and GAIN THEIR SUPPORT for their AWFUL DEFUNCT agenda. True to their character, these CON ARTISTS par EXCELLENCE are trying every trick in the book to drive wedges in the GLOBAL COMMUNITY that now appreciates the TRUE NATURE of the LTTE Diaspora. After 30 years of MURDER & MAYHEM in Sri Lanka, they have NOTHING, ABSOLUTELY NOTHING, to SHOW for it; ALL of their EFFORTS have COME TO NOUGHT. Their ANGER & FRUSTRATION knows NO LIMITS. LYING & HOODWINKING has become an INGRAINED HABIT they CANNOT CAST OFF ... so they alternately WAIL as VICTIMS & RANT like MADMEN .. NOT REALIZING that EVERYONE KNOWS who they are, and are FIRMLY RESOLVED to FRUSTRATE THEM. So, GRADUALLY .. they GO MAD, INSANE, and INCOHERENT as we see here. In the fullness of time, they will WITHER AWAY .. consigned to the GARBAGE HEAP of HISTORY!

Bhairav said...

Buddha is bleeding!

Moshe Dyan said...

these toilet sakkiliyas have been reading DW!!

"Tamil group raised the following concerns with the Minister, according to the attendees to the meeting:


Minister should officially invite the leadership of the Tamil National Alliance (TNA), the Tamil party representing the Tamils living in Sri Lanka.

tamil leadership???? we'll see to that!

The way GoSL is handling the IDPs is tantamount to giving collective punishment to the innocent Tamils under the disguise of weeding out former rebels and Australia should take direct action.

there is nothing wrong with weeding out former TERRORISTS

Pointed out Changing the demography of the north by Sinhalese colonisation and SL government’s plan on permanently dividing the North and East by developing an Air Base in the Welioya region."


so what's wrong??? we are not doing it to another country. it is allowed in the same country. it is NOT a war crime TF. await MORE surprises!!


Urged Australia to start an initiative to form a group of like minded countries at the forthcoming CHOGM in November and the Tamil Diaspora could muster support from the like minded countries including UK, Canada, and South Africa."

this crap of "like minded governments" is a way to include that TRANSEXUAL TOILET GOVERNMENT into it.

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Ananda-USA said...

Patriots,

The delay in releasing IDPs, willy nilly, so to speak, without screening, demining, and other preparations is being held out as some dark plot by the GOSL against Tamil people. This self-serving stand by the LTTE Diaspora, and their lackeys worldwide, ignores many real issues.

Demining is needed NOT ONLY for preserving the limbs and lives of the residents of the Wanni, but also to prevent them from being dug up and used in Improvised Explosive Devices against other people, including the armed forces personnel.

Who will dig up mines and hidden caches of LTTE weapons? The committed LTTE cadre hiding now among the IDPs and elsewhere in the country, and released prematurely before detection with IDPs returning to their homes, will do it.

In addition to these issues related to the danger of mines as explosives, how can IDPs survive without any infrastructure necessary to life?

Without shops, where will they buy groceries?

Without police, who will protect them from again being taxed and conscripted by LTTE cadre?

Without medical centers, who will provide medical care?

Without schools, how will they educate their children?

Without buses and bus stands, how will they get about?

Without post offices, how will they communicate?

Without village/ town administrations, who will attend to local administration, or gather taxes?

Without jobs, how will they earn money to live?

Without markets, where will they sell their goods and services to earn a living?

People released and asked to fend for themselves without any help provide fertile grounds for the resurgence of terrorism. We see this very clearly in Afghanistan, in Somalia and elsewhere.

The LTTE would love the IDPs to be released into a VACUUM that can step into and fill again. LTTE agents in Sri Lanka and in the Global Diaspora, are AGITATING to get that freedom of movement for the LTTE cadre .. brainwashed indelibly over 30 years, and trained to snap to attention when the command is given.

The GOSL and the SLA, KNOWS ALL OF THIS and is not going to fall into that TRAP of laissez-faire terrorism again.

The SLDF and the POLICE will be omni-present in the former LTTE areas, their local numbers KEEPING STEP with the release of the IDPs. Law-abiding people will have NOTHING TO FEAR as they go about their lawful activities, but the MISCREANTS will be kept under close observation and not allowed even to sneeze too loudly.

And, THAT IS HOW IT SHOULD BE! Not only the Wanni IDPs. EVERYONE in Sri Lanka needs to be able to live in peace and security .. and this is the ONLY WAY TO GUARANTEE IT!

Westerners living far away from terrorism, and theorizing about how to maintain equity and security in Sri Lanka, should be told to GET LOST! We KNOW better, having LIVED through it!

Moshe Dyan said...

i dearly hope that the west is reminded of terrorism AGAIN.

they seem to have forgotten the vital lesson of 9/11.

its that time again!

otherwise why double standards against SL??? after all SL is only doing its share of US's war on terror.

Sam Perera said...

Ninja and other patriots,

"We can win this war too.. Public need to understand the reality, make GSL to take correct moves, use right people, put the GSL in right direction, back the leaders, be unite and play the cards wisely.."

Yes, we need to play the game in the same unity we have up to now. One of the first steps we need is to send all traitors like RW, LK, RK, JJ, VA, Muththu, Samaraweera, Perera to the political oblivion. Muththu and Perera has no political front. Therefore, we need to take legal action against them for collaborating with foreign powers to destabilize our country. As for those traitorous green monkeys, summarily defeating them in the elections is the most important. People as well as soldiers were in high morale in our war against against LTTE terrorists and their stooges. We need to maintain the same focus on these unsavory western attempts by continuously educating our people. Meanwhile, MR and his team should clean up the system. We shall never forget that the magic that keeps us ticking is the "hope of a better tomorrow." Stay around Ninja and other patriots, we have many battles to fight together.

Ada Pamanak Novey Apata Hetak Thiyenawaa,
Arunaluken Hinehee Nawa Lowak Thananawaa,
Anduren Bara Aakara Thula Menik Dilenawaa,
Desa Basa Resa Apey Athin Eliya Wetenewaa

Bhairav said...

Buddha is bleeding.

Thusitha said...

Bhairav said...
Buddha is bleeding.

September 18, 2009 8:40 AM

--------------------------------
Yeah,
Ever since you guys landed in SL, Budhha has been bleeding.

Moshe Dyan said...

"Ada Pamanak Novey Apata Hetak Thiyenawaa,
Arunaluken Hinehee Nawa Lowak Thananawaa,
Anduren Bara Aakara Thula Menik Dilenawaa,
Desa Basa Resa Apey Athin Eliya Wetenewaa"

a fantastic song by victor ratnayake. remainds me a trip i made as a kid to some ancient place.

but this battle is VERY difficult. anti-SLs have MBRLs in this battle.

we cannot win this battle outright.

to make things worse, some hypocratic countries are also supporting this BS. we can NEVER beat them.

if anyone says we can beat these hypocrites, he is an IDIOT. we can NOT. accept that patriots.

what we should do is to,

1. COUNTER ATTACK
2. pull the rug beneth their feet
3. retaliate appropriately.

#1
URINEPEE ponnayas are publishing paid ads in newsmedia TIMED to get attention of visiting MFs.

ok. close to the PE, govt should bring in laws banning ANY negotiations on the UNITARY STATUS, territorial integrity of SL. also totally ban ANY talks with the transexual govt.

get the sangha to endorse it.

present it to parliament to obtain 2/3.

victimise those who don't support it PUBLICLY by calling them TRAITORS right ahead of the PE.

#2
colonisation

just think why do they cry???
why LTTE gives money to MFs to cry???

why??? why???

bcos the north is still AVAILABLE for the tamil elam project. the virgin is there to be married. we should destroy this ASAP.

#3
LTTE NEVER committed war crimes, bomb blasts, etc. those were done by TAMIL SEPARATISTS.

why stab the dead man's chest????

find and label the right culprit.

we have stopped firing but they have NOT. so what should we do???

CREATE a reason to fire!!! not physically of course, but by other means.

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Sam Perera said...

Moshe,

We need to democratically defeat western agents who are also elected members of the parliament. Also we need to legally defeat unelected elements like CPA. Meddlers like Robert Blake will have no chane in the hell if we defeat his stooges like Ranil Wickramasinghe in the political arena. It won't be a difficult task if the people will be reminded of their traitorous acts and following of white masters like dogs. Our soldiers restored our dignity through their blood, limbs, and lives. We simply can't allow these traitorous monkeys like Ranil Wickramasinghe to sell our souks to his white masters.

KB said...

[ Bhairav said...

Buddha is bleeding.]
Bugger! Looks like this poor Bhairav is having her periods today. How about sticking an extra sanitary pad in you mouth as well, eh?

Cheers!

Anonymous said...

Govt is doing its best, but not fully innovative to manage situation.

As soon as camps were populated, I have suggested to release old and very young people to their realtives out side with propoer monitoring and control. i.e. to report these families to nearest police station every week or month untill fully cleared.
If we have done that before, we would have save lots of money and good will of the people.
Other biggets advantage is , since they going to live among true multicultural socialty, it helps to weedout tamil nationalistic thinking and home land thinking from the people.

Other ideas.
1. GOVT should have invited to all able communities to take a families to their custody with proper security control untill areas are ready to resettle.

2. Arrange camps blocks according to different regional secratariats to manage resources easily

3. Invold people in camps for the development of their own areas with a salary, rather bring people from out. The n they know thw situaltion very well about their areas and when can they go and settle.

Some time its stareange to see, this same tamil people were digging miles of trenches for LTTE, but they have failed to make a small draining system around their own hut to protect from rains.

To Ananda,
I mean giving blocks to play on our rules.

Ananda-USA said...

Guess What, It is as I had Anticipated!

The (KP) Arms Purchasing Wing Vs. the (Castro) Superior Intelligence Wing WAR is ON AGAIN!

They should try being MODAYAS like us, for a change!

Sri Lanka Muthukatayata Jayawewa!


.....continued........
Split in LTTE over goal of new government

ExpressBuzz.com
September 18, 2009

COLOMBO: Differences have arisen in the pro-LTTE Tamil Diaspora over the goals of the Transnational Government of Tamil Eelam (TGTE) proposed by the head of the LTTE’s international department, Selvarasa Pathmanathan, alias KP.

Radicals represented by the editorial board of www.tamilnet.com said on Wednesday that the basic document on the proposed TGTE sent out by the US-based lawyer, Visuvanathan Rudrakumaran, had not stressed that the Tamils’ goal was the formation of an independent Tamil Eelam in north-east Sri Lanka.

“The whole concept of transnational government will be misled if it is oriented merely with an idea of negotiation. It is not just a negotiation platform. There is no need to show Tamils have demcoratically dropped their aspiration just because some powers want it as a pre-requisite for negotiation,” it said.

VOTER REGISTRATION DECRIED: The editorial criticised Rudrakumaran’s document for saying that elections to the proposed TGTE would be based on a voters’ register. Such a register would be dangerous as well as unrepresentative, they said.

Ananda-USA said...

Konappu Bandara said...

[[ Bhairav said...

Buddha is bleeding.]
Bugger! Looks like this poor Bhairav is having her periods today. How about sticking an extra sanitary pad in you mouth as well, eh?]

Actually, Bhairav has been posting at ExpressBuzz.com under "Mahavamsa" and other handles attacking the Buddha, the Mahavamsa etc, and everything we value.

It is all disconnected nonsense, but I suppose it comforts him in this world, although he is unknowingly extending his journey through sansara; poor man!

Moshe Dyan said...

sam,

you and i (and other patriots) stand by SL NO MATTER WHAT. but MOST SLs are not. they are easily gullible and media power is UNFORTUNATELY concentrated among the MFs EVEN in SL!!

so how can we think of winning the media war overseas when we can't win it in SL???

my take on the media war is this.

1. get ENOUGH leaway so that the govt can go ahead and do things.

2. do things that CREATE a media hype for us.

3. frstrate the TE project so that TE media has nothing to say.


the OCTAPUS is much bigger than we can imagine. it has money and more than willing to give away money.

LTTE money goes to the CPA, UNP, LSSP, TNA, etc, and money speaks and attracts ppl. this is in addition to the media backing TE MFs are getting. MOST western societies sympathise the UNDERDOG not knowing its a mad dog!! all these in developed countries put TE MFs ahead of us.

OneNation (formerly TTBO) said...

The senior sea tiger leader 'Chelian' was who supposed to have died in a sea battle some time back was recently picked up in an IDP camp. This was based on the confessions of a tiger cadre who had insisted he has seen Chelian in the camp. The navy had insisted he was killed during the sea battle long time ago. Shows the importance of screening the IDPs. Not sure if this was in the media, but this is from a very good source. The source could not stress enough the importance of screening the IDPs.

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kevin said...

There’s no doubt that there are still escaped tiger big wigs lingering in that IDP camps and most probably they will bribe their way out to seek positions abroad. We should process each and every person there before we release them irrespective of what the IC wants us to do.

Moshe Dyan said...

breaking news....

US missile shield in czech & poland has been scrapped!!

in return US wants more cooperation from russia on,

1. iran
2. afghanistan
3. other global affairs

both russia and US taking the same side on global affairs is not good at all.

but vladirmir ruzputin is not likely to jump in soon.

CASC said...

The army is doing a major tatoo for its 60th birthday. I really enjoyed going to these tatoos as a child before the eelam wars began. Most of the equipment back then until the early eighties was what was left behind when the British left Ceylon. Some of the ancient Saladin and Ferret scout cars from the era are still around and appear in some of the parades. I do hope the Army creates a museum to preserves some of those relics. With the LTTE gone, I think the army will now emphasize some its ceremonial aspects while maintaining its military readiness.

Sam Perera said...

Moshe,

US-Russia corporation is great for everybody. This seems to be an agreement by US to not to poke their nose in to matters pertaining to neighbors of Russia. However, neither US nor Russia will be ready to give up their own turfs. In summary what we see here is just maintenance of the status quo.

CASC said...

Italy today lost six soldiers in Afganistan and Prime Minister Berluscuni is talking about withdrawing the Italian contingent from that country. Afghanistan been called the graveyard of empires. I think it would be true to say that this goes back to the time of Alexander the Great. Neither Czarist Russia nor the British Empire could get a hold on that place. In modern times, the Soviet Union tried and now a group of western countries are trying to tame that country.

Rudyard Kipling wrote a poem that commemorated the 1880 Battle of Maiwand in which the Afghan followers of Ayub Khan defeated a British brigade, which included Indian soldiers,during the Second Anglo-Afghan War.

"There was thirty dead an' wounded on the ground we wouldn't keep -
No, there wasn't more than twenty when the front began to go;
But, Christ! along the line o' flight they cut us up like sheep,
An' that was all we gained by doing so.
I 'eard the knives be'ind me, but I dursn't face my man,
Nor I don't know where I went to, 'cause I didn't 'alt to see,
Till I 'eard a beggar squealin' out for quarter as 'e ran,
An' I thought I knew the voice an' - it was me!
We was 'idin' under bedsteads more than 'arf a march away;
We was lyin' up like rabbits all about the countryside;
An' the major cursed 'is Maker 'cause 'e lived to see that day'
An' the colonel broke 'is sword acrost, an' cried."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Maiwand

Sam Perera said...

CASC,

It is remarkable that US (Bush) made the same mistake other did when they had every chance to finish it. I think that it was Rummy's idea to operate with a small force. Also they themselves got distracted with Iraq.

No_MESS said...

“On the other side, you had to rely on the sophisticated means of internet video distribution run by the LTTE – the Tamil Tigers. Daily, remarkably, new chilling images emerged; though of course these were almost impossible to verify, they would have been near impossible to fake as well.”

The trouble with reporting on Sri Lanka - Nick Paton Walsh /Channel 4

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So now, we’ll have to prove that the video was easy to fake as well – Any good actors reading this blog?.

CASC said...

Sam,

Yes. Its remarkable that the US made the same mistake that the Soviets made.

Before the Soviets, these folks were fighting with 200 year old muskets.
Pakistan also made a big mistake going into the NWFP. The British learnt their lesson and never went beyond the Khyber. Until the Taliban came around there was no political ideology. The fights were basically petty feuds among warloards and clans over basically minor matters. The place is ungovernable.

Jay said...

SK
Thank you for your response to my comments, permit me to respond accordingly time permitting.

(West means who? Public? No, I don't think so. What you call by west are a handful of diplomats and NGO hawks)

I dont mean the public nor the bloated NGO nor the diplomats who come and go with specific agendas. I mean't the credible IC who continually question the misdemeanors of the current regime on human rights issues.Experience tells me (Evidence by recent events) what ever "independent" reports put out by GOSL is taken with a pinch of salt.

(Lose to the West or SL)
IC and the West will unfairly penalise the general SL populace to no fault of their own.Like the IMF loan the GSP+ will i believe be extended but they will make an issue of it.
Btw i was privy to minutes of a meeting held between MR and the members of Apparel Manufacturers where he blatantly told them i dont care if we dont get the GSP+ if we have to cow down to the European trash to demean our armed forces!.. Thats another story ..

(C4,Al Jazeera, CNN, BBC- Well, they will do it regardless that, only until there is a $$ value in SL)
There is no $ value in SL. They get better returns in exposing high profile international figures and whose Shagging who. ie Randy Berly (Italian Pres). SL is way down the bread line.

(I have no strict label for you)
I prefer you call me a traitor than a terrorist, terrorist lover or an elamist. Frankly, it would be a privilege and an honour to be called a traitor by the DW bloggers. Because i belong to many millions of Sri Lankans who believe that MR won the War but not the peace or human dignity.
MR legacy will have positives BIG Plus(eg- getting rid of a ruthless bunch of imbecile terrorist)but regrettably as always(perhaps unfairly) he will also be remembered for concentration camps (IDP Camps), Jayalanka Housing Programme, Human rights issues,media suppression,alleged war crimes and Lasantha & JS Tissa.

I'm sure years to come we could be writing and debating about this as one does about SWRD, Premadasa, JRJ, CBK, RW et all.

On a seperate note i was suprised to note whilst reading the Observation Tial Report on JS Tissa that the Judge Deepika Wijesundra is the sister of the Officer who signed the Indictment against JS Tissa her interlocutory decision to allow into evidence what counsel for JS Tissa described as a forced confession, and subsequent denial of the accused’s right to appeal this decision.
He received Rs1,500 from an LTTE source direct to the Subscription Account to which he had no knowledge of until his arrest.
Interesting!

So supplying arms to the Terrorist
(JRJ,Premadasa, RW, CBK) and paying Rs 500m to the terrorist (MR)is ofcourse not a crime under the PTA.

Have a nice day all.

Moshe Dyan said...

re: US-SU-afghanistan....

also russia is doing the same mistake US did in afghanistan in 1970-80s!!

at that time US gave weapons to mujahiddin. and the russo were beaten comprehensively.

but that was not to be the end of it.

russia (SU had collapsed) armed the taliban against the mujahiddin. even today this is the case. russians want the americans to suffer what they suffered. (although US casualties are FAR LESS).

russia also faces the al qaeda threat but no threat so far from taliban. and the hypocricy goes on, on both sides.

nothing much would happen.

as sam said, they will maintain the status quo.

re: missile shield

the START nuclear proliferation treaty ended this year. this means the 2 big boys can restart neclear weapons development. russia has already started it in a BIG way. oba-ma went to russia 2 months ago to sign a fresh agreement but nothing happened. the missile defnce sheild must go, russi insisted. so now we have this.

ruzputin feels he won. he indeed won in the "czech/polish missile crisis". this will EMBOLDEN the fellow to do more aggro stunts. now he will cry over ukrain & georgia becoming NATO members!!

we are in another cold war.

but now it is most certain that russia will NOT sell c-300s to iran.

Bhairav said...

[MR legacy will have positives BIG Plus(eg- getting rid of a ruthless bunch of imbecile terrorist)but regrettably as always(perhaps unfairly) he will also be remembered for concentration camps (IDP Camps),]

Whether you like it or not, MR's head will fall off from the chair next time unlike he himself fell off in earlier time. He certainly knows that his days are numbered by his own folks or external ones. Let him live in fear for awhile for what he did to 10s of 1000s of innocent Tamils.

Whole mainstream Sinhalese supported the war when everyday 100s of innocent Tamil kids and women were blown into pieces in daily basis by their artillery guns. If one can think that any future threat is over, they're in clearly in fools' paradise. When next time Tamils start the arms struggles, it will be ultimate blow to Sinhala invaders and chauvinists.

Anonymous said...

/Whether you like it or not, MR's head will fall off from the chair next time unlike he himself fell off in earlier time. He certainly knows that his days are numbered by his own folks or external ones. Let him live in fear for awhile for what he did to 10s of 1000s of innocent Tamils.

Whole mainstream Sinhalese supported the war when everyday 100s of innocent Tamil kids and women were blown into pieces in daily basis by their artillery guns. If one can think that any future threat is over, they're in clearly in fools' paradise. When next time Tamils start the arms struggles, it will be ultimate blow to Sinhala invaders and chauvinists./

HIK HIK

Sam Perera said...

Bhairav the Terrorist,

I usually don't respond to subhuman terrorist scum like you. It was your LTTE who killed 100s and 1000s of innocent civilians. Your LTTE killed innocent civilians by bus bombs, car bombs, air plane bombs, train bombs, suicide bombs, beheading, chopping, slicing, dicing etc, the list goes on. The worst terrorist the world has seen, Prabakaran is gone but his sttoges like you are still around. We will never forgive unreformable terrorist stooges like you. Just like Velu, you too have a place guaranteed in Sri Lanka's unmarked grave reserved for faceless and nameless terrorist. Stop your dirty acts of terror and learn to live like a human being.

Moshe Dyan said...

"When next time Tamils start the arms struggles, it will be ultimate blow to Sinhala invaders and chauvinists./"

lol!

we will be fighting the next tamil thangachchi struggle with our penises!!

this time it was tam-ill genocide, next time it will be GENITAL-O-CIDE!!

these MFs are very lucky to get away with 30k dead, next time it will be 300k.

Ananda-USA said...

Moshe,

Do you think that the Russians are stupid enough to dump their long standing allies just because Obama made a better, more rational decision now?

I don't think so. The Russians won't allow their security to be held hostage to the fickle political winds in Washington, which may reverse tomorrow if Administrations change.

Moshe Dyan said...

Ananda,

iran is not a long standing ally of russia. now iran is becoming an arseache than anything else.

the 2 nuclear power plants are built by russian govt companies. work has been going on without any stop. but while acquiring nuclear technology iran threatens to WIPE OUT other independant, UN member countries!!

this is highly embarssing for the nuclear technology providers.

russia has already offered to cooperate in building a joint missile shield in armenia to defend europe from any POSSIBLE (EXTREAMELY unlikely though) iran missile attack. ruzputin has promised israel not to sell c-300s to iran. IF iran INSTALLS c-300s, it will be impossible for israel to lauch a pre emptive attack on iranian nuclear facilities (peaceful and otherwise) and neutralise them.

iran is a million times better than USA, but unfortunately trying to immitate BULLYING tactics from USA. and bullying is against a much smaller nation in the region just bcos it is not an islamic country.

Ananda-USA said...

Moshe,

The Russians never believed the explanation that the missiles to be installed in the Czech republic and in Poland were directed against the Iranian threat. For them, it was the equivalent of the Cuban missile crisis. We should not have pushed Russia into that corner, and I am glad for US's sake that we have pulled back from that posture.

With regard to Iran, Iran is a longer-time ally of Russia than the US and one that is important to Russia in view of its need to placate its Moslem citizens.

Iran has always denied "acquiring nuclear technology to WIPE OUT other independant, UN member countries" as you claim. That is an ASSUMPTION that Israel, which is reputed to have 200 nuclear missiles of its own, makes and pushes hard for other major nuclear powers to accept in order to isolate Iran.

Iran, unlike Israel, is a signatory to the NPT and has always maintained that it is developing nuclear technologies for energy. Given the fickleness of global alliances, do you really expect Iran's leaders to rely on the western powers for the nuclear technology that it needs to assure energy security for its 80 million (and growing) people in the future?

As an analogy, we SL patriots have been advocating indigenous production of weapons in Sri Lanka to assure access to most weaponry that Sri Lanka needs to defend itself. This is driven by Sri Lanka's experience of being denied the weapons it needed to defend itself by most western countries. Iran is no different; it anticipates being blackmailed on nuclear fuel for its power plants when it needs it most, and is determined not to rely on the current nuclear powers for it. Their logic is impeccable.

Finally, an often proffered argument for concluding that Iran is after nuclear weapons and denying Iran nuclear technology, is that Iran is "Floating on a SEA OF OIL," so it does not need nuclear energy. Nothing could be further from the TRUTH. I have a study by MIT that states that Iran's internal consumption of petroleum is increasing so rapidly that Iran will be a NET IMPORTER of petroleum within a DECADE. This confirms my own independent assessments.

The Iranian leaders KNOW THIS, and they are moving to assure a plentiful supply of energy for their growing population and industrial growth far into the future by developing nuclear power plants, including nuclear fuel production and spent fuel reprocessing facilities, while they have the PETRO-DOLLAR INCOME to pay for it. That is a PRUDENT direction for them to take; a direction I would love to see us taking in the US without opposing the construction of nuclear power plants.

Yes, indeed, the development of nuclear materials processing technology, and spent fuel reprocessing capabilities, does bring with it the capability to enrich the fissile materials to levels suitable for weapons production. But that is something we cannot ASSUME they will do, and then use that to deny them the rights guaranteed by the NPT, especially when we look at what other non-NPT powers in the region have already done. If we push too hard, Iran could reject the NPT altogether and go it alone .. they have the technical expertise to do that.

In my view, trying to prevent Iran from becoming a nuclear power is a FOOLS ERRAND that will not succeed. They have the money, they have the brains, they have a LARGE supportive population that cannpot be easily cowed, and they have the WILL to do whatever is in their national interest. The MORE foreigners push, the MORE the people of Iran support it.

Ananda-USA said...

On Russia & Nuclear Iran

.......continued....

The threat of a nuclear armed Iran is not as catastrophic as some would paint it. Ever since WW-II, the world has coped with MULTIPLE NUCLEAR ARMED COUNTRIES, because every nation realizes that first use would invite retaliation in kind which they will not survive. So, it is a doomsday weapon that cannot be used; its role is that of deterrence while they engage in conflicts by non-nuclear means. The point is, a nuclear Iran will not be the catastrophe it is made out to be; at least no more and no less than the current nuclear powers. All that it will mean is that Iran will be more immune to conventional foreign threats.

That said, I read in Newsweek today that Israel under Netanyahu is threatening a "PRE-EMPTIVE" attack on Iranian nuclear installations. That would be a DISASTER for the entire region .. because Iran is a completely different kind of animal than Iraq whose reactor was destroyed in a pre-emptive attack by Israel. Iran's nuclear installations are constructed so far below the ground that they ARE IMMUNE to any and all existing EARTH PENETRATORS, or those that can be feasibly developed. These facilities WILL SURVIVE any attack Israel can launch.

Even if Israel attacks Iran's facilities and destroys its surface facilities, it will only place itself in a quandry by becoming the aggressor in a warlike act by the UN, and most countries of the world. It will justify ANY and ALL RETALIATION by Iran. Israel will be initiating a conflict that it cannot end. As such, Israel will ultimately have to rely on its ability, at any time, to retaliate with nuclear weapons if attacked with nuclear weapons by Iran; it can do no more than that in a practical sense, so all of this saber-rattling by Netanyahu is useless.

I am only giving you my ANALYSIS of the situation; I am not taking any sides in making these comments.

Moshe Dyan said...

Ananda,

yes, that is why i brought up the topic!!

israel has a small window of opportunity to do so and it MAY do it B4 iran acquires c-200s or c-300s. there cannot be another nuclear power in ME. that will lead to a MASSIVE arms race in the MOST VOLATILE REGION IN THE WORLD!!!

of course iran didn't say it will wipe out israel USING NUCLEAR WEAPONS. but it is TOO OBVIOUS. no other weapon can do it!!!

I PRAY THAT THERE WILL BE NO VIOLENCE.

russia never had iran as an "ally". it was friendlier than the US, especially after the YELTZIN era. and russia is not likely to interfere militarily IF war breaks out. but US certainly will. iran's underground facilities are not immune to an attack. there are many air delivered and missile delivered weapons that can destroy underground facilities.

israeli threats FOLLOWED iranian threats. not the other way round.

i value your well articulated points and i may be biased. but every country must defend itself taking a LONG TERM view. there is no point doing anything when iran has nuclear weapons that can beat israeli nuclear arsenal. this has to be nipped in the bud, me thinks.

but i sincerely hope that things will be sorted out peacefully bcos iran is a blessed country. it is a great country. may G~d bless all the world leaders and iran to tread the path of COEXISTENCE.

Moshe Dyan said...

Ananda,

obviously the czec/poland missile shield was NEVER about iran. it was about TOPOL-M russian missiles!!

on the subject of israle....news..

"Overriding Western objections, a 150-nation nuclear conference on Friday passed a resolution directly criticizing Israel and its atomic program for the first time in 18 years. Iran hailed the vote as a "glorious moment.""

developing countries voted for the resolution, i hear, and MOST developed countries have voted against it.

but nothing will change.

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TropicalStorm said...

We have serious problems-

http://srilankan-news.blogspot.com/

TropicalStorm said...

Ananda

I disagree.
Israel has the capability to stike Iran and will not hesitate if it bcomes essential. In retaliation Iran has few options except intensifying support to groups fighting Israel and/or targetting Israeli missions abroad.
Israel has learnt to live in a threat environemnt for a long time and is no stranger to such an eventuality.

susantha said...

Tropical storm

" Israel has learnt to live in a threat environemnt for a long time and is no stranger to such an eventuality."

that is exactly what SL too must do its high time we adapted to live with threats after facing Tamil terror for 30 years..

Sujeewa Kokawala said...

Ch4 and other activities - Lots of names revelaed

Sujeewa Kokawala said...

රටට මඩගහන සමුළුවක්‌ ලබන මස ජර්මනියේදී

කීර්ති වර්ණකුලසූරිය

ශ්‍රී ලංකාවේ ප්‍රතිරූපයට හානි සිදු කිරීමේ සමුළුවක්‌ ඔක්‌තෝම්බර් 2 සිට 4 දක්‌වා ජර්මනියේ ස්‌ටුවට්‌ නගරයේ එවැන්ජලික්‌ ඇකඩමියේ පැවැත්වීමට කටයුතු යොදා ඇතැයි අනාවරණය වේ.

මෙම සමුළුව මෙහෙයවන්නේ චැනල් ෆෝ වීඩියෝ පටය බෙදාහැරීමට සම්බන්ධ ඉන්ටර්නැෂනල් නෙට්‌වර්ක්‌ ෆෝ ශ්‍රී ලන්කන් ඩයස්‌ පෝරා නැමැති ව්‍යාජ සංවිධානයයි. ශ්‍රී ලංකාවේ රජය අතිබිහිසුණු ක්‍රියාදාමයක්‌ මත හමුදා මෙහෙයුම නිම කළ බවත් ද්‍රවිඩ ජනතාවගේ හිමිකම් මර්දනය කරන අතර ද්‍රවිඩ විරෝධී පිළිවෙතක්‌ අනුගමනය කරන බවත් ජාත්‍යන්තර ප්‍රජාව වෙත සාවද්‍ය ප්‍රචාර දියත් කිරීම මෙම සමුළුවේ තේමාව වී ඇත.

මෙම රාජ්‍ය විරෝධී සමුළුවේදී ජර්මනියේ කොටි ඒජන්තවරුන්වූ මන්නායි සිවරාජන් - යෝගනාදන් පුත්‍රා නඩරාජා සුසිදරන් සහ ජර්මනියේ ක්‌ෂමා සංවිධානයේ නියෝජිත රෙංගම් මුලර් දේශන පවත්වන බවට තොරතුරු අනාවරණය වී තිබේ.

Bhairav said...

[that is exactly what SL too must do its high time we adapted to live with threats after facing Tamil terror for 30 years..]

Right now, you guys have shifted the balance of military in your favor but Tamils still hold onto their political ground. It's matter of time before Tamils find innovative ideas to use the tactical weapons and put the Lanka into dust.

Everything in Sorry lanka should be military targets in coming days for Tamils and i encourage the Sinahal chauvinists to colonize the Tamil homeland, so that we won't feel bad when we get rid of those scummies.

Key to success of next Tamil military struggle is tactical weapons. Anything and everything that can put sorry Lanka into stone ages should be used.

Bhairav said...

Who cares about 13A plus or negative, I only believe in Tamil Eelam that should be achieved with the break of India in 3 to 4 decades time.

You can rape any woman you want or kill any Tamil you want but you can't break the spirits of the Tamils. History will always repeat in some form or other, this time you will be in the receiving end.

susantha said...

Bhairav the tamil donkey

we are not afraid of your threats

we dont need ur permission or ur appreciation to colonise the tamil homeland actually sinhala homeland..

we are well aware that you cholan dogs will try to destabilize sl thats what is in ur genes ..always cause trouble in SL...we will fight u animals till the end.....that is why we are strengthening our forces..to crush u like EGG SHELLS.. we could expect an attack once in a while....but most sl citizens are used to terror we didnt bow down to tamil terror for 30 years when the tamil terror was powerful...do these cholan sakiliyas think we will bow down now when we are in a position of power...just like the US,isral,china,russia,india we will MANAGE AND EFFECTIVELY CONTROL the threats not give into the ENEMY....

u look at the east it will be a sinhala majority area very soon ..sinhalese people are buying lands massively in the east....

I too will make an investment in trinco next year...

Gen fonseka recently said in an interview that the operation of destroying tamil extremism and elamism is not over and its till continuing...

Bhairav said...

[Israel has learnt to live in a threat environemnt for a long time and is no stranger to such an eventuality.]

When the status quo is broken with the Iranian nuclear build up, it is matter of time before any Muslim fanatic will pull the trigger on Israel. Striking the Iranian nuclear facilities is bad as doing nothing for Israel/US. Their only way forward is accept the Palestinian state and strengthen the security of Israelian people or face the unthinkable.

Anonymous said...

http://lakbima.lk/Mandakiniya/manda_2.htm

This is the sad situation. Majority now think "the war is over.. no problems after this.. every thing will be fine". This is too bad when this is the case among top level.

/"Israel has learnt to live in a threat environemnt for a long time and is no stranger to such an eventuality."/

/that is exactly what SL too must do its high time we adapted to live with threats after facing Tamil terror for 30 years/

Yes, however this is not new to SL anyway... We knew how to survive for 2500 years when the much stronger invader lives few miles north..

However we didn't knew how to deal with west.. We defeated west military wise in many places (Gannoruwa, Mulleriawa..) but finally west turned their military defeats into a 500 year long political victory. If we don't act wisely west will repeat the same..

Bhairav said...

Susantha,

This time Tamils won't play with the AK-47s or T-86 rifles anymore.

susantha said...

ninja

i think sl coudnt defeat the british(not all westerners) invaders because we didnt have strong leadership....not because of "not knowing any particular tactic"

and SL was one of the most difficult places for british to control in their whole empire
another place was egypt...

susantha said...

bhairav first of all very few tamils played with ak-47s and t-81s....they generally used t-56s....

whatever u play with we will screw u..

weather u play economically ,politically,militarily,diplomatically we know how to deal with ur PSYCOPHANTIC Ethnic group

the TNA is already dancing to the govt's tune....

Anonymous said...

/Key to success of next Tamil military struggle is tactical weapons. Anything and everything that can put sorry Lanka into stone ages should be used./

Most of the LTTE di-ass-pora have now realized after 30 years that peelaam is not possible by military means (at least with grade 5 drop out leadership). And the alternative is already in practice, (super duper some we tamils still don't know.)

General formula is to pick an obedient (sinhala) guy who wants power, and make him the leader for part of SL and the other part given to (sinhalese') enemy and you control entire SL. (This is done by west.) This has been done several times in history in various means.

Simply, what any one who need thamizh peezaam hould do is; join, support UNP/RW, mongal, CBK team. You will find other makkas (WikramabahuK, INGO refugees etc) there with their federal, socialist, communist, theories which recommends power devolution, self determination, confederation, human rights etc and do as west say. If majority of simple people also join the same camp peelaam is possible in a few decades.

Anonymous said...

Susantha

We lived with suicide bombers and 40,000 terrorists and defeated it. Threats in a blog from one such terrorist refugee is the last thing you need to waste your time in. However, you get the free chance to see how a typical tamil racist terrorist in a white masters country with all the luxury behave. Thamiz Peezaam is some thing they are addicted to. You see how such terrorist monkey live his life when he choose not see a psychiatric.

Ananda-USA said...

Moshe & Tropical Storm,

1. The demographics and economic growth in the region will ultimately create several powerful countries far larger than Israel. Their capabilities will OUTRUN Israel's own resources. Isreal will not be able to maintain its current stance of military and/or even economic dominance.

2. Therefore, Israel should move towards limiting its creeping expansion and make peace with its neighbours. It should begin now to establish friendly relations with Syria, Hezbollah, West Bank, and Hamas in addition to strengthening its amicable relations with Jordan and Egypt.

3. When some accommodation is achieved with these parties, Iran's influence on Shiites in the region will decline.

It is important to note here that Iran has NEVER ATTACKED another country FIRST. It has NEVER BEEN an AGGRESSOR in recent times. In particular, Iraq precipitated the Iraq-Iran war hoping to make hay while there was internal turmoil within Iran. It unified the Iranians and Iraq just BARELY survived, if only because of US weapons delivered to Saddam. That was a misjudgment of IRANIAN CHARACTER of monumental proportions on Saddam's part .. it backfired in trumps. Despite Ahmadinejad's rhetoric, and Iranian assistance to fellow Shiites in the Hezbollah, Israel should not make the same mistake Iraq did .. for its own sake. I repeat, Isreal will not be able to win this one in the long term.

4. Both of you have contested my assessment on the inability of Israel to EFFECTIVELY strike Iran's NUCLEAR FACILITIES.

I have professional knowledge of these matters, do you? Certainly Israel can bomb Iran's surface facilities, but short of a ground based attack with commandos entering the DEEP SUBTERRANEAN FACILITIES and destroying them, bombing from the air using EARTH PENETRATORS, guided-missile Thermal Weapons, and such like WILL NOT WORK. The presence or absence of the c-200 and c-300 Russian air defence systems in Iran will not change the equation drastically. Iran is WELL PREPARED to survive bombing at the SURFACE and to REPEL any commando attack before or after the bombing. Let me repeat, IRANIAN NUCLEAR FACILITIES will SURVIVE such an attack.

Then, What? Well, Iran will probably fire short and medium range missiles back at Israel, which will cause some damage and take some lives. Iran will also egg Hezbollah on to reinitiating the conflict along Israel's northern border, and significantly increase its assistance to Hamas.

However, BOTH Israel and Iran will survive with their military and economic capabilities largely INTACT but on a long-term war footing. IRAN will win the PROPAGANDA WAR, and may even get more assistance than before for its defence and nuclear developments from Russia and China.

The only real way of cowing Iran, an INVASION BY LAND by Israel and US cannot even be contemplated, given the size of Iran's military establishment (1,000,000+) and readiness of its civil defence units including its militia to fight. Also, the US is too committed elsewhere, is in deep economic trouble, and Obama is very unlikely to engage in such unwise brinksmanship. So, a massive invasion by LAND is OUT.

Iran will reject the NPT, and will race towards nuclear weapons. NO ONE, except perhaps the US and the UK, will critisize IRAN for doing so. The Iranian people will rally round, and support the Govt of Iran 99%; this will destroy any hope of an internal democratic revival.

So, what will have Israel gained having shot its bolt with a military attack? NOTHING. In fact, it will have LOST a lot. If Netanyahu goes ahead with this gamble, it will be a DISASTER for Israel, and the entire region. Many will die, Iran will emerge strengthened, and nothing will be solved. It is LUNACY!

Ananda-USA said...

Moshe & Tropical Storm,

I forgot to add, that if Iran is attacked by Israel with US support, Iran will Destabilize Iraq and Afghanistan in a BIG WAY, and FRUSTRATE all US goals in both places.

They have an enormous LEVERAGE, and presence on the ground, in both of these countries.

Jay said...

Lanka News Web learns that Milinda Moragoda has extorted a sum of US$ 1 million by telling Sri Lankan born American businessman, Raj Rajaratnam that the government had details to prove he had links with the LTTE.

The President has got Justice and Law Reforms Minister Milinda Moragoda to deposit the money in the recently established fund to rehabilitate LTTE detainees.

It is learnt that Milinda Moragoda and several highly placed officials in the defence establishment are engaged in extorting money from foreign businessmen claiming the government was in possession of details to prove they have had links with the LTTE and that money

had to be paid to make the government remain silent on the issue.

It is also learnt that many of these foreign businessmen deal with black money

DESPICABLE!

Ananda-USA said...

Hooray, SOMEONE in the GOSL is listening to what we say!

.......continued....
Army to play development role in Sri Lanka: Samarasinghe

The Hindu
September 19, 2009

After successfully defeating the LTTE, the Sri Lankan army is ready to play a significant role in the development of the country, Sri Lankan Army Chief of Staff Major General Mendaka Samarasinghe has said.

“Apart from its primary role it (the Sri Lankan army) will also play a big role in the development drive of the country in the future,” Samarasinghe said yesterday in an address to the media at the Army Headquarters on the diamond jubilee celebrations of the Sri Lankan Army.

He said the strength of the Sri Lankan Army had grown more than ten fold since its inception in 1949 to date, as it got ready to celebrate its diamond jubilee as a victorious Army.

The top army official said the Army’s strength has reached around 2,00,000 as of today due to the rigorous recruitment drive carried out during the past two to three years to fulfil the battle requirement to defeat LTTE “terrorism“.

He said the Army will organise the diamond jubilee celebrations in October not only to showcase its achievement but also to encourage the youth to join the Army as a career and as a noble profession in the future.

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