A cautionary note on the present situation re Gen Fonseka. Our task was to allow things to settle down on their own which has worked. However, recent developments led particularly by a section of the diaspora Sinhalese is a cause of concern for DefenceWire.
DefenceWire team's stance up to now has been to avoid commenting on this dispute knowing fully well the capacity of both the present government and SF to come to a compromise on:
1. The direction the Sri Lankan Military will take
2. The direction General Fonseka would have to go
These may not be the most ideal directions for either, yet they are ones that are at best described as realistic and unavoidable.
There are many moves by politically motivated Sri Lankans, including Sinhala groups and also non Sinhala Sri Lankan groups to exploit a disagreement that has unnecessarily spilled over into the public's eye due to politics in the military and a very small section of the military in politics.
These groups, particularly those civilians involved who are not insiders or have little inside information can or will not understand the discipline of a professional soldier to take what he wants and to relinquish duty when required sans insubordination.
A professional soldier is not Dutugemunu. The Sri Lanka Army/Military is a modern Army/Military positioned within a democratic society. The professional soldiers serving in it will know when to let go. By asking them to perform a larger role based solely on selfish motives of individuals in the periphery, they may destroy that soldier and even themselves and their reputation.
The Sri Lankan Military and its leaders are now hailed the world over for their victorious feat. Their role in bringing peace to the country through military means will be remembered for decades to come as the ultimate example of a trained military executing its sacred task flawlessly from start to finish. But remember this, dear readers, military action is a means of achieving the end and the end is always political.
DefenceWire, as an impartial site whose work you have witnessed for over 3 years now wish to appeal to our readers to refrain from joining or supporting either 'camps' and to allow the professional soldier and professional politicians to resolve potentially resolvable issues mentioned above.
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«Oldest ‹Older 1201 – 1400 of 4363 Newer› Newest»Fonseka 2010, you are a Tamil and I can prove it.
Here is what you just posted for the 25th time.
You can only fool dumb patriots like Sam Perera since he thinks I am you.
[Fonseka 2010 said...
vAll Patriots,
We represent all Sri Lankans, not just one ethnic group. We will remember all the people who died on that day by lighting oil lamps, having anti-war dramas, selling books, posters, flags, videos, etc. but we will not for mass street demos in the west like how we did when we wanted the west to save our leader.
We believe that Singala chauvinists led by MR is the biggest obstacle we have currently. Our short term goal is to bring Ranil, Mangala, Mano, an Rauf to power. This will ensure full implementation of the 13th amendment. Later on we will request for referendum in Jaffna to get more devolution similar to a federal system.
November 10, 2009 6:07 PM]
Diyasena,
Thanks. I wasn't aware of that.
Fonseka 2010
Please don't spell Sinhala as "Singala." Only Tamil people and non-Sri Lankans spell it that way. People will think you are a not a Sri Lankan.
Also, stop using Obama's campaign slogan "This is CHANGE WE CAN BELIEVE IN". Sri Lankans are different from Americans or Europeans and are very skeptical of rhetorical slogans. Try something more down to earth.
Fonseka 2010;
What is the vision of your candidate regarding devolution, 13+ and self-determination of North and East?
Look at our manifesto.
http://fonseka2010.blogpspot.com
No to ethnic enclaves.
We can save billions of rupees by abolishing the PC system. We will have one country, one policy making body. We will try things like 3 deputy PM posts reserved for Tamil, Muslim and estate. Qulification for deputy PM is the community has to be at least 8%. So if Tamils drop below that they will lose the seat.
MR campaigners like the loser theys are have started misinformation campaign. This political terrorism will replace the cancer of tiger terrorism that ruined this country for many decades.
For policy related information and our manifesto you can visit our blog http://fonseka2010.blogspot.com
We are now very busy because of important logistical work to set the scene for the great General's political bid.
Fonseka 2010
Do you think Tamils should be sent back to TN and make Sri Lanka for only Sinhalese?
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Blogger Fonseka 2010 said...
We need uncorrupted people to lead this country
Muhamali debacle, who took the responsibility for arrogance and sleaziness?
The news of the incident reached Government leaders when the National Security Council was in session. It is here that President Rajapaksa heard the initial accounts. The Sunday Times has learned that there was neither naval nor air support when the operation got under way. The inclusion of naval and air support in a major operation, even to a lay mind it is clear, is of much significance. So are contingency plans for evacuation of the wounded.
The Commanders of the Navy and the Air Force were unaware of the operation. So was the Chief of Defence Staff (CDS). (How irresponsible- can we trust this guy with our country) Only after the offensive had ended, however, the Air Force had carried out sorties. One was on a guerrilla artillery gun position.
In the light of this a number of questions beg answer. What led to the poor planning of such an offensive operation without inputs from the Navy and the Air Force? Where does accountability for this for this serious debacle rest and was approval of the defence hierarchy obtained? These are just a few of the multitude of questions that arise. These questions are being raised in the national interest. Poorly planned offensives in the past have shown how they have imperilled life and limb of troops and demoralised a nation.
2nd
Who is this guy who sacrificed our young men, for internal political gains?
DefenceNet article and response to 2007 nov muhamali attack
DefenceNet said...
This was almost a repeat of the last year's failed Muhamalai advance. Only this time there was some damage control.
.......... but the sad part is that we keep doing the same mistakes over and over again. This sort of poorly coordinated attacks completely negate the advantage gained from group based attacks and even LRRP missions.
DefenceNet said...
hemantha.
"I think defencenet is using the term "politics" in a more general way. I guess he is referring to internal politics in the military (I am not sure what defencewire meant by that). You see, when there is some back stabbing occurs in our workplaces we call it "politics"."
Exactly. Whenever the word 'politics' is mentioned it doesnt always have to be associated with the defence secretary or the president. The military itself has a very complex structre.
and there are many otheres I will expose them when I have time.
Fellows I respect gen Fonseka, he commanded the militaty to free us from LTTE. but he was only successful because he was kept under tight control by the vigilance of President Rajapaksha.
With this move of aligning with traitors of this country. Gen Fonseka has lost all our respect, we will expose his arrogance and egocentric character and defeat him.
Remember Arjun had to fight his worshiped gradfather Bhishma to defend righteousness, we will do the same , even with a heavy heart.
Deshapaluwa,
Muhamalai incident was one of few setbacks of the last elam war. After that incident we won many battles and won the whole war. Using that for mud slinging purposes is very despicable.
Read the comments following that Defencenet article. During those times Gota, MR were in a vulnerable position. Myself, Asithrri bro. and many others were arguing behalf of them honestly (not for political ass kissing purposes).
Defencenet made an irresponsible comment in his article. I and many others questioned him. He was in a hard position because of that. Then I gave him an escaping path and he grabbed it wholeheartedly. And that is what you have posted as a great exposure.
We need uncorrupted people to lead this country. A leader who can return the country back to the parliamentary system where all ethnic groups share equal power. Check our plan. A leader who is willing to hand over the country to true multi-ethnic leaders like Wikramasigha, Ganshan, Hakeem, and Samaveera.
Fonseka2010 -Sri Lanka First
Yes We Can
This is CHANGE WE CAN BELIEVE IN
MIA,
Obviously, from what he has written, Moshe Dyan is more theoretical in his knowledge of Hindi.
However, he is also on the right side of the argument.
Hindi, along with English, is indeed the most 'common' language in India in terms of its usage and acceptance in states. I would say that - outside the middle class usage of English - Hindi is more popular.
It will get you by - probably* - in 'most' states in India. Even in most parts of the South you will find people who speak it.
I say 'most' because exceptions are the North east and Tamil Nadu in the South.
Obviously, Hindi is most commonly spoken in the North, center, East and West.
I speak from personal experience; I have traveled to quite a few states in India and have found Hindi/ English to be adequate*.
Incidentally, apart from the schooling system, and probably more than it, Bollywood has been the most powerful driver of the spread of Hindi in India, IMO.
*: I said 'probably' and 'adequate' because Hindi is likely to be enough for you to get by. There are always exceptions in a country as vast and diverse as India.
And how is everyone here these days post our dearly beloved and not at all regretted VP? Same ol' same ol' as I can read. :)
Blogger hemantha said...
Deshapaluwa,
Muhamalai incident was one of few setbacks of the last elam war. After that incident we won many battles and won the whole war. Using that for mud slinging purposes is very despicable.
Hemantha there were two Muhamali debacles,
1st in April 2007. Where Gen Fonseka went alone without even having airforce to evacute the casualties.
2nd in 2007 nov, again this one he tried to show to the other commanders (Navy and AF) that he can do withougt them.
We all know that Gen fornseka doesnt speak to Wasantha Karannagoda and he didnt like the senior guy AF commander heading the defence council.
There is no mudslinging these are the facts.
Gen Fonseka is not perfect man, he has his weakneses
His arrogance and egocentricity could have cost us the war.
The best evidence is that his latest alignment with the traitors.
Which makes us beleive us that he doesnot care about the National unity, but just about his ego
Hard to follow where the blog convo is heading if you dont read it daily. but nicely put DW.. im talking about the original post in this.
also I agree completely with Hemantha (one of the earlier postings in this convo) when talking about what the recent past has done to the mind set of the society.
moshe dyan asked why they didnt take him away and kill him .. for being a public nuisance? really ?
then theres a top ten list coming up on my mind to start getting rid of from now on.
we as a society have to put our two three four cents, ruppees, dollars, pounds, yen, effort, and what ever else it might take to make even a slight difference for the better.
also few bad examples do not do justice to the good ones.. there are very commendable police officers who would have handled that situation better.
the media certainly has their responsibilities to play too.
see .. you , I or anyone else can blog about these all we want .. but to get things done .. (im sure most of you here contribute in some way to make things happen ).. we do need to practice what is preached...
heres to a better future for Sri Lanka..
Blogger Fonseka 2010 said...
Gotabaya Rajapaksha fled the country when the war was raging.
If he stayed back he would have been killed by the UNP just like they killed Gen Kobbakaduwa.
An open letter to General Sarath Fonseka
Nimal D Kasturiaratchi
MBBS, Ph.D.Pelewatte, Battaramulla
Honourable Sir,
This letter is from one professional to another, who delivered the utmost, which will change the history of our country.
Sir, you are our hero. It is true that many others, including the heroic soldiers who gave their lives, were involved with the recent military operations and that the credit should go to them as well. But, we all know how you gave the leadership to the military operations as a professional. We are so proud of you and you were able to give our nation the strength and an opportunity to regain the sense of pride that we had long lost.
A weekend newspaper reported that you are about to enter politics as the common presidential candidate against President Rajapaksa. We are astonished, sad and depressed - hence this letter.
As we all know, politics is a dirty game and it is not for professionals. The contemporary destructive manifestation of politics dawned much before the Tigers and could have been even a cause for the insurgency that you eliminated successfully. But, now, to see you entering the politics is beyond our comprehension. Most Lankans agree that to clean up politics, one may have to adopt the same tactics that you yourself adopted during the elimination of the LTTE. You could probably do it within, but then you are risking your life. The fate that reached our beloved personalities like Mr. Algama and Mr. Janaka Perera (I do not know their professional designations) is good testimony. Further, it seems that you are joining the group that dragged them into politics and had them killed! Do not for a moment think that these were random events- they are probably not.
Sir, you are our ideal. When you remain with us you will give us strength and not the politicians. When you are in the exterior you are free with us and yet powerful. To give us pride, please remain with us. Do not, sir, allow rats to cash in on your popularity and professionalism. Within the old sociological distinction between status and power, we prefer you to have status. Be a Brahamin and not a Khastriya.
It seems that you are not too happy with the way the others try to take the credit for what you have offered to the nation. You are not the only victim in this regard. Many scientists and professionals that I know left this country because of the way they were treated by the state. How many engineers, architects, doctors, farmers, planners, and accountants do you see on the television screens depicted as those contributing to the nation’s welfare -almost none! Media are blind and are a sinister force and a cancer in Sri Lankan society. This country progresses because of the contributions of silent professionals and other workers who do their duty, without extra payments, diligently, as you did, amid obstruction by external and internal forces.
While at Nalanda, we were taught to be vigilant of forces that bind you to local mundane phenomena. As an Anandian, I am sure you were also taught these principles. So let’s be above such ordinariness and see the reality in its true perspective- Moha is darkness, and selflessness, is power.
The common candidate, they say, if elected will facilitate the abolition of the Executive Presidency. Is that what you aspire to? Do you want you to be used as a vehicle to make traitors come back to power? There are devils and there are worse devils. I do not need to remind you that this nation has local and international enemies. Our history testifies to their existence and they operate in all spheres even at present. These enemies have different agendas. Some of them are religious, some political and some geo-political. Are you sure that you are not joining the camp of the enemies of this country. We all remember, as you once mentioned, the treacherous act of signing a treaty with Mr. Prabhakaran. We all remember how the Sri Lankan government, under pressure from the West, was hesitant to ban the LTTE. There were people who went to Pamankada and to the Salvation Army to ridicule you. Many people narrate stories of how certain politicians in the camp that is trying to cash in on your popularity, were involved in bribery and corruption. Those are only a few instances that come to mind now. Sir, please think twice and please, please, do not let us down.
The Sri Lankan political-bureaucratic machinery has transformed into something which is beyond the comprehension of any political scientist or a management specialist. A professional who transformed a hospital into an international award- winning level was served transfer orders at six o’clock in the evening; a good example of the way this system recognises the contributions of professionals. Sir, you are not alone. We all are such victims! If you find the work environment unbearable you have the right to retire or resign. Before making such a decision try to be humble; a value that we all can borrow from Christianity. Your humbleness is for the nation and it will not be a submission to power. All failing, it is our humble request to you that you must remain with us, as hero.
Honourable Sir, soon after your victory, a friend who was working in Bahamas wrote me and asked me, "Isn’t history repeating?" Yes it was! You are not an ordinary person or a commodity. You are our nation’s hero. We want to die thinking that we were living in an era of heroes and in an epoch when history repeated. We want you to be our most respected hero and not our President. Please sir, do not betray the nation.
Nimal D Kasturiaratchi
MBBS, Ph.D.Pelewatte, Battaramulla
People who ask Fonseka to run
=
UNP, JVP, Mano Ganeshan, Hakkeim.
anonymous assholes like Fonseka2010 guy.
People who ask Fonseka no to run
=
Common people like the doctor in the above article. The maha sanga (Including the head priest of the Washington temple where SF did is infamous speech), SLFP and other supporters who supported Fonseka and the military during the war.
Lets see where he wants to find his friend
Deshapaluwa,
Hello friend, if politics is a dirty game and professionalism is honourable and clean; what you are doing here also dirty. You are playing plain politics here but requesting others to follow honourable and clean professionalism.
This is indeed like the particular crab going sideways asking/demanding fellow crabs to go straight.
Tell me friend, why you are playing dirty politics, if it is so bad? For what gain? Are you expecting favours from MR and GR?
Tell us what is your hidden agenda? Whatever it is, it cannot be noble and clean!
K @ K
guys,
shall we NOT talk about the muhamalai things????
we may have lost a couple of battles BUT WON THE WAR. tigers won a couple of battles but lost the war.
i had a major disagreement with the long ranger (who may be MUCH more knowledgable than me) over the muhamalai things at a time no one wanted to talk about it. but that was the time to discuss it. not now. that too SOLELY from a defence point of view.
dragging internal defence politics into it and WORSE dragging UNP-SLFP-JVP-TNA, etc. politics into it is unacceptable, me thinks.
"The Sunday Times has learned that there was neither naval nor air support when the operation got under way."
what MIA brags all the time.
i think he wants to go even further. he wants to show that bcos SOMEONE at sunday times reported it, so&so attacked/threatened to attack the reporters.
that's why i say there are a LOT of PARASITES trying to make political and anti-national advantages over this. so please lets not talk about it when it is not required.
aqua,
that is IF they wanted to kill. the way they conducted, they were intent on killing the poor man, which is bad.
it is not about killing ALL public nuisence creators. other countries handle it in certain ways. certainly not the SL way.
this landed SL in deep shit as i said.
"Bollywood has been the most powerful driver of the spread of Hindi in India,"
and in SL. which is a good thing.
Blogger Keshara-කේශර said...
You are playing plain politics here but requesting others to follow honourable and clean professionalism.
Nope I never did, I never asked any one to play clean politics, because there is no such thing.
I only asked Gen Fonseka not to get into dirty politics, specially with the traitors.
Is there anything wrong with that?
Some even accused me of mudslinging.
Wrong again
Mudsligning= Accusing with factually wrong things.
All what I have said are factually correct prove me wrong if you can.
What do you expect me to do when Gen Fonseka align himself with the Traitors?
කකුල් දෙක ලග වැද වැටිලා අනේ සර් UNP එකෙන්ම තරග කරන්න කියන එකද?
Not me folks, and not many other people who I know.
Blogger Moshe Dyan said...
guys,
shall we NOT talk about the muhamalai things????
Moshe
Its not us who brought war into politics, against our own, its Gen Fonseka himself. His candidacy against MR is it self bringing war into plotics against MR. Then Listen to his talk in Washington. he blames the government for taking the war lightly what is that? Did the government take the war lightly? That is pure politics by Gen Fonseka.
So if he wants to play polictis with the war, lets do it, lets let all the facts out about Muhamalai, Palalli, and the artillery on our own soldiers, etc ect.
MD,
Mate, prevailing political environment in Sri Lanka is very much connected to defence, territorial integrity and unitary condition of the nation. Therefore it must be discussed here. The outcome of next GE and PE will decide/shape our nation’s future and well being. It has to be debated.
So far the good general has not done anything wrong. All other things are speculations and hypothesis at various individual’s imaginary level. Therefore we cannot let few individuals to have political mileage at general’s expense.
K @ K
Blogger Moshe Dyan said...
"The Sunday Times has learned that there was neither naval nor air support when the operation got under way."
Moshe , you are disappointing me pal, Its not only ST, many other sources verified the same story.
Oh by the way SF day after the Muhalalai attack, during the pressconferance never denied this, he cant cause Air force commander will contradict him
Deshapaluwa,
What do you expect me to do when Gen Fonseka align himself with the Traitors?
Friend, could you please provide clear and foolproof evidence that the general has done the above?
I do not see any evidence so far, that is why I am reluctant to brand SF as a traitor!
K @ K
Blogger Keshara-කේශර said...
So far the good general has not done anything wrong.
Why did he want to get on stage and accuse the government.
Why did he secrtly met the traitor Ranil
Why did his agents met with the Kotia Mano Ganishan (Mano confirmed this)
desha,
but mate, SF didn't. its all speculation!!!
look at the washington speech FACTUALLY defence-wise.
ok, that winning a lottery part is BULLSHIT. like one said he may have confused with the DV lottery!!
other things are true.
1. we have to DESTROY hiding LTTE cadres (no need to mention though)
2. we have to resettle ppl
3. we have to stop celebrating may18th and get down to work.
but agree with the statement that IF SF wants to talk about war credits, HAVE TO talk about debits too!!
from DM.
"President Mahinda Rajapaksa yesterday said if Chief of Defence Staff General Sarath Fonseka submitted his resignation from the post with the intention of contesting the upcoming Presidential election, he would accept it forthwith.
The President made the comment when several Ministers inquired from him whether there would be a legal problem for General Fonseka if he wanted to resign soon to contest an election. The President had said there were many reports in this regard and if he received a resignation letter from General Fonseka he would act within half an hour to let the General know that he had accepted the resignation. The President had said he would act with a clear political conscience and would not hesitate to accept General Fonseka’s resignation from the post of Chief of Defence Staff.
Earlier there was speculation whether General Fonseka could resign from the post of CDS on his own wish without serving the full term of two years for which he had been appointed."
i hope not, bcos that makes SF the most useless CDS which unfortunately justifies the muhamalai allegation re: TEAMWORK.
the CDS position is all about teamwork and WORK.
i'm sure SF will set the strategic direction of SLDFs b4 resigning.
Blogger Keshara-කේශර said...
Friend, could you please provide clear and foolproof evidence that the general has done the above?
It is now a known thing friend, he is running, I said that weeks before.
People are now investigating the constitutional problems associated with the Chief of defense staff contesting in elections and the constitutional obstacles to his resignation.
I will answer your question with a question.
could you please provide clear and foolproof evidence that the general is not running?
Blogger Moshe Dyan said...
desha,
but mate, SF didn't. its all speculation!!!
ok, that winning a lottery part is BULLSHIT
Nope that is it, sure what the junk sites reported was crap, I agree.
But he clearly is not happy with the government and is accusing it.
"Why did he want to get on stage and accuse the government."
he didn't. he pointed out what MUST happen.
"Why did he secrtly met the traitor Ranil"
NEVER!!
"Why did his agents met with the Kotia Mano Ganishan (Mano confirmed this)"
NEVER!!
IF U TRUST MANO GONA, we have nothing to talk about mate.
Why did he secrtly met the traitor Ranil"
NEVER!!
"Why did his agents met with the Kotia Mano Ganishan (Mano confirmed this)"
NEVER!
IF U TRUST MANO GONA, we have nothing to talk about mate.
I will believe that these are not true when the good gen says so.
So far he had not denied when asked point blank. but just opted to play politics.
kk,
i disagree.
politics will decide the defence situ of the FUTURE not the PAST!!
that is why we should be futuristic not dwell on muhamalai.
but i can see an INCREASING NUMBER of ppl are reserrectinh muhamalai.
govt and SF should not encourage this.
Blogger Moshe Dyan said...
"Why did he secrtly met the traitor Ranil"
NEVER!!
"Why did his agents met with the Kotia Mano Ganishan (Mano confirmed this)"
NEVER!!
Wake up friend, we need you.
"So far he had not denied when asked point blank."
he hasn't denied - YES
not sure he was asked point blank.
"but just opted to play politics."
not true at all!!
Deshsapaluwa,
No, mate, I don’t have any evidence to suggest whether SF has decided to run PE against MR or not.
However, if he does that, he must have a good reason. The good reason may be his final act to destroy RW, Mangala, Mano Gona and their goons once and forever politically. Or he may have inside knowledge to suspect something sinister with MR regime. Or even SF may be a traitor to join with RW, Mangala and Mano as you claim.
Any way we cannot jump the gun, we will wait and see. Anybody can change his/her appearance/intentions in hiding but has to come out for the dance.
K @ K
Blogger Moshe Dyan said...
"but just opted to play politics."
not true at all!!
Politics is a subtle game mate. Read the tea leaves.
Blogger Keshara-කේශර said...
Deshsapaluwa,
Any way we cannot jump the gun, we will wait and see. Anybody can change his/her
wake up, wake up ........... oh I'm tired
MD,
I am not interested in the past. I do not care how we won the war. Most important thing is that we have won the war, not how.
I am only interested in the future because I have vested interest in future of the country and the nation.
K @ K
kk,
"I am only interested in the future"
mate, then there is no argument. thats what we want. not revisiting muhamalai.
we should be talking about keeping the team together, even if it is difficult.
if ANYONE actually tries to divide the patriotic camp (MR, SF, GR or anyone
SF is gone baby, there is no comming back.
Start building the camp without him now.
Desha/MD,
My last word on the matter:
Deshapaluwa seems to be fully convinced that SF has joined RW, Mangala, Mano clan with intention to destroy MR. I am not convinced, at least not yet.
However, I am convinced that nothing good will come from RW, Mangala, Mano and the clan. They are proven traitors and will reverse military victory. Therefore SF should not help these traitors unless he is expecting a bigger calamity from MR regime.
If SF is to do the wrong thing and jeopardise the present situation by giving into separatists and to the west, then I will not hesitate to brand him as the #1 traitor of the mother land.
K @ K
Blogger Keshara-කේශර said...
Desha/MD,
Deshapaluwa seems to be fully convinced that SF has joined RW, Mangala, Mano clan.
Remember me when he announce his candidacy
Here is another appeal by maha sange, way back on the 1st of Nov.
පින්වත් ජෙනරාල් සරත් ෆොන්සේකා විරු පියාණෙනි!
MD,
Even if we are to revisit Muhamalei or any other incident that will not going to tarnish good general’s reputation. In a war battle/s can be lost but winning the war at the end is the prime target. Our defence forces achieved that and destroyed LTTE terrorist org militarily and killed its leaders too. That is more than enough for me to be loyal to MR, GR and SF forever. If somebody is to betray the winning team, then he will perish, not the team.
K @ K
dear deshapaluwa,
remember the public pay your wages to work in public's best interest - not to extend rajapaske family dictatorship.
nevertheless i was hoping for someone slightly better than you. i guess rajapske cannot afford better quality propaganda given the amount of theft going on.
k,
there is a SMALL REMOTE possibility.
IF SF joins the UNP, reshuffles the top by replacing HOMAs/other traitors with patriotic or at least non-traitorous men and women, agrees not to divide the country on racist basis (including 13+), i will be against MR unless he betters it.
k,
"Even if we are to revisit Muhamalei or any other incident that will not going to tarnish good general’s reputation."
it does in a politically tense situ.
anyway i will not unless the actors talk BS and we have to do something to defend SL from liars. this situ hasn't arisen yet.
how stupid is this!!
"[TamilNet, Tuesday, 10 November 2009, 10:17 GMT]
Colombo Chief Magistrate Nishantha Hapuarachchi Monday ordered remand till November 12 for forty-five suspects, majority of them Tamils, arrested by the Criminal Investigation Department (CID) under the Prevention of Terrorism Act (PTA) and Emergency Regulations (ER)"
they are remanded for JUST 3 days but the report sounds like YEARS.
MD,
SF cannot reshuffle UNP top as long as RW is there. SF cannot make a patriot out of Mangala or Mano. In short SF cannot do anything with proven traitors. He can only bring down MR, if he joins UNP or UNA. We don’t want MR to go down unless SF has clear reigns to rule without interference from RW, Mongala and Mano like opportunists. There is no way SF will have such power with UNA.
K @ K
Moshe Dyan said...
from DM.
"President Mahinda Rajapaksa yesterday said if Chief of Defence Staff General Sarath Fonseka submitted his resignation from the post with the intention of contesting the upcoming Presidential election, he would accept it forthwith.
The President made the comment when several Ministers inquired from him whether there would be a legal problem for General Fonseka if he wanted to resign soon to contest an election. The President had said there were many reports in this regard and if he received a resignation letter from General Fonseka he would act within half an hour to let the General know that he had accepted the resignation. The President had said he would act with a clear political conscience and would not hesitate to accept General Fonseka’s resignation from the post of Chief of Defence Staff.
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O.K. people who are arguing about SF not contesting the election, could some one explain the comment by MR?
I mean if MR has to make a comment like this, that mean SF hasn't emphatically said that he is not going to contest. So all the comments about that he is not going to contest is rubbish. Assume that he doesn't want to answer the media, he should at least say something straight to MR. He hasn't done so. Therefore MR doesn't know whether he is contesting or not.
How can some one be straight and honest and then play this kind of games? How long does someone need to make up their mind to enter politics or not? Is he worried that same thing that happened to JP would happen to him?
Also Moshe, wouldn't it be good that SF says that he did not send representatives to meet Mano Ganeshan if that is the case? He need to play an active role in making sure that his name stays clean. If he doesn't have time to do this, just get a his secretary or some one like that to do that for him. Up to now his conduct has been absolutely appalling in the way he handles press.
Keshara-කේශර said...
Deshapaluwa,
Hello friend, if politics is a dirty game and professionalism is honourable and clean; what you are doing here also dirty. You are playing plain politics here but requesting others to follow honourable and clean professionalism.
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I dont' think it is not Deshapaluwa who has to explain him self, but it is SF. If he is doing things by the book, then Deshapaluwa wouldn't have to speculate on it.
If he can't get his voice heard on the media, just create a FB page for him and just say, no I didn't meet RW, Mano e.t.c. We are more than happy to believe him as long as he says it. In the absence of proper information coming in, it is normal for people to speculate.
Lets assume that there is a news article that say Moshe went and met Mano Ganeshan. What would he do, wouldn't he make sure that every news papers knows that he did no such thing?
What has SF done after the new article? Did we hear any thing from SF to say no he did not do such a thing and he is appalled by the just the mere mentioning of the fact.
I am not saying SF did meet MG, but he should make some effort to clear his name. Does SF know that the Internet Exist?
Thusitha,
Mate, The general is still a public servant who holds a high level portfolio. He cannot confirm or reject speculations without resigning from the post.
Take the two scenarios:
1. He is going to resign and contest next PE.
2. He is not going to resign but continue his position as CDS.
Scenario-1 will need him to resign at a chosen point in near future and then declare it, not before. With scenario-2, if he confirms his intentions to stay with the public service; MR will continue his businesses as usual.
He is clearly protesting against something MR has already decided to implement which he thinks is really bad.
K @ K
"SF hasn't emphatically said that he is not going to contest"
YES.
"So all the comments about that he is not going to contest is rubbish."
not enough information to decide.
did he say so?? why assume??
"wouldn't it be good that SF says that he did not send representatives to meet Mano Ganeshan if that is the case?"
yes, it is good. that will sort many things out.
but why spoil the suspense??? i know it has done some damage but nothing major.
"SF hasn't emphatically said that he is not going to contest"
YES.
"So all the comments about that he is not going to contest is rubbish."
$%&$#%*!!
did he say so?? why assume??
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You have a point there. What I should have said was he is undecided about the whole thing. If he has decided not to do so, then he should have come said so by now.
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yes, it is good. that will sort many things out.
but why spoil the suspense??? i know it has done some damage but nothing major.
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I think we had too much suspense for a year, can't take it any more. LOL.
Moshe Dyan said...
"SF hasn't emphatically said that he is not going to contest"
YES.
"So all the comments about that he is not going to contest is rubbish."
not enough information to decide.
did he say so?? why assume??
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I think It came out the wrong way.
What I was trying to say was that he is undecided about contesting or not. Therefore we cannot say that he is not going to contest. Therefore we cannot take a view point that he is not contesting, which is wrong.
"He is clearly protesting against something MR has already decided to implement which he thinks is really bad."
we discussed this.
1. not increasing the SLA to 500,000
2. not emphasising enough on the combat-readiness aspect of SLA. more emphasis on assisting reconstruction work
3. not giving enough power for the CDS position
4. taking away the 57 and 58 divisional commanders from operational (ground) positions.
- these 2 divisions achieved most SLA achievements
5. not "vinasha kirima" of some terrorists among IDPs(????) and/or resettling them.
6. doing 5 above speeds up resettlement. but without a larger army will lack security, according to SF.
7. possible disagreement on 13
MD,
All your reasons except last one are not good enough to do what he is doing. He is only an army commander. MR has more responsibilities and accountabilities than the general could fathom. In short MR is the executive president. SF should have something really nasty about MR for what is doing right now.
K @ K
OR may be.............
8. "i sacrificed 5,200+ my men to win this war. recognise me MORE. give me a high political position like PM, defence minister. give me a bigger reason to stay in SL than go to USA."
Is Gen. Sarath Fonseka Running for President of Sri Lanka?
Prove me wrong.
පොදු අපේක්ෂකයා ජනරාල් ෆොන්සේකා එක්සත් ජාතික පෙරමුණ තීරණය කරයි
Divaina reports
India wants its ships returned ?
India clearly does not want Sri Lanka to have a blue water navy. Colombo Dockyards has the technical capability to build some large vessels in the 100+ ton range. The Govt should use our local capability to meet the requirements of the navy.
http://www.dailymirror.lk/DM_BLOG/Sections/frmNewsDetailView.aspx?ARTID=67546
India wants its ships returned ?
India clearly does not want Sri Lanka to have a blue water navy. Colombo Dockyards has the technical capability to build some large vessels in the 100+ ton range. The Govt should use our local capability to meet the requirements of the navy.
http://www.dailymirror.lk/DM_BLOG/Sections/frmNewsDetailView.aspx?ARTID=67546
Blogger Moshe Dyan said...
OR may be.............
8. "i sacrificed 5,200+ my men to win this war. recognise me MORE.
You didnt say that.....
Were they his children or even relatives. What is the right he has over those men. GR atleast took care of the compensations to widowed families.
give me a high political position like PM, defence minister.
That is egocentricity
what about GR? who managed the whole defence structure, make him president?
then what happen to MR, make him GOD?
Blogger Thusitha said...
Lets assume ...........
What has SF done after the new article? Did we hear any thing from SF to say no he did not do such a thing and he is appalled by the just the mere mentioning of the fact.
I am not saying SF did meet MG, but he should make some effort to clear his name. Does SF know that the Internet Exist?
read my blog, there is a much more convincing political point to show that this meeting truly happened
Is Gen. Sarath Fonseka Running for President of Sri Lanka?
Blogger CASC said...
India wants its ships returned ?
we have much more pressing issues to discuss here.
.............. :-)
Is Gen. Sarath Fonseka Running for President of Sri Lanka?
Paan-Hingana (lolz, thanks OaOA) to දේශපාලුවා
{nevertheless i was hoping for someone slightly better than you. i guess rajapske cannot afford better quality propaganda given the amount of theft going on}
We too were hoping for someone even a fraction better than you whore to go bat for RW Ponnaya for President.
We need uncorrupted people to lead this country. A leader who can return the country back to the parliamentary system where all ethnic groups share equal power. Check our plan. A leader who is willing to hand over the country to true multi-ethnic leaders like Wikramasigha, Ganeshan, Hakeem, and Samarveera.
Fonseka2010 -Sri Lanka First
Yes We Can
This is CHANGE WE CAN BELIEVE IN
දේශපාලුවා said...
පොදු අපේක්ෂකයා ජනරාල් ෆොන්සේකා එක්සත් ජාතික පෙරමුණ තීරණය කරයි
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Yeah, it is going to be political suicide if U.N.P fails to get SF. But then again they are not going to win anyway. This might be nothing to loose type of play.
As keshara said, maybe SF wants there to be a bidding war for him. If this is the case, hopefully he doesn't get burned by the whole thing.
Folks,
We live in a crazy world; nothing will surprise me again.
It is true that, we Sri Lankans cannot do anything collectively without infighting and betraying fellow comrades.
I hope SF will have good reasons to go against MR; equally hope MR also has good reasons to side line the general.
Whatever their reasons; outcome of this conflict will be a disaster for SL.
K @ K
දේශපාලුවා ...
May be Sri Lanka should follow the Israeli model and allow war heroes to become politicians:
Moshe Dyan
Yitzak Rabin
Ehud Barrack
Benjamain Netanyahu
or we should have done what India did after the 71 war where they made the hero of that war General Sam Manekshaw a Field Marshall. That would have been the right thing. A title does not cost anything. A medal does not cost anything.
If General Fonseka was made a Field Marshal he would do what war heroes typically do, such as (1)inspecting honour guards (2) participating in military parades (3) opening military installations (4) going to temples and schools, etc, etc.
Hypothetically speaking, one can't blame him for his situation. In situations of unequal power, it is the person with greater power who ultimately decides.
Blogger Fonseka 2010 said...
Paan-Hingana (lolz, thanks OaOA) to දේශපාලුවා
{nevertheless i was hoping for someone slightly better than you. i guess rajapske cannot afford better quality propaganda given the amount of theft going on}
Friends you can see who is attacking me now.
The Tamil racist Panhida and the traitor Fonseka2010
We are mad with RW Ponna
here's why:
"The opposition leader, Ranil Wickremesinghe, says he has set out preconditions for the general to be acceptable as a candidate. These would include giving government portfolios to the Tamil National Alliance, a pro-Tamil Tiger parliamentary group.
To many, such a possibility seems scarcely credible"
According to our plan, these conditions were to be presented much later as then SF could have been pressured to accept them (once MR was kicked out of power), but now the Ponnaya has let the cat out of the bag!
This is now going to make things tough for all of us (RW, TNA, LTTE, JVP, etc.) and he alone is to be blamed.
Typical Ponnaya!
I should have given the link:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/8352676.stm
Blogger CASC said...
දේශපාලුවා ...
May be Sri Lanka should follow the Israeli model and allow war heroes to become politicians:
Sure, war heros has run for office through out the world.
But never against each other
No general has run against the president whom he served under during the victorious campaign.
We are heading to another curse. Just like the one that was cast upon us 2500 years ago by Kuweni
අතීතයේදී විජය රජු තමාට උදවු උපකාර කළ කුවේණීට පිටුපෑමේ ශාපය මේ රටට උරුම වූ බව බොහෝ දෙනාගේ පිළිගැනීමයි. යෝජිත ජනාධිපතිවරණයෙන් මහින්ද රාජපක්ෂ මහතා පරාජයට පත් කිරීම යළිත් වරක් අප මාතෘ භූමියට එබඳු ශාපයක් අත්වීමට හේතුවිය හැකි බැවින් අප ඒ පිළිබඳව අවබෝධයෙන් කටයුතු කළ යුතුය.
පූජ්ය උඩුවේ ධම්මාලෝක ස්වාමීන් වහන්සේ
{The opposition leader, Ranil Wickremesinghe, says he has set out preconditions for the general to be acceptable as a candidate. These would include giving government portfolios to the Tamil National Alliance, a pro-Tamil Tiger parliamentary group.
To many, such a possibility seems scarcely credible}
hehehe.....but "To many" here does not include our PaanGulla paraya!
Thusitha,
As keshara said, maybe SF wants there to be a bidding war for him. If this is the case, hopefully he doesn't get burned by the whole thing.
I believe that SF's image is partially burnt now. The more he remains silent, the more his image is going to burn. We won the war because of great team work. it is everybody's collective responsibility to continue the great team work while not disrespecting others. I hope that SF has a good assessment of the ground situation of the Sinhala voters. General Fonseka is considered one of the most outstanding soldiers, not an outstanding politician. When it comes to voting, I sincerely doubt that he has any chance against MR the warrior king. When the people equate MR to Gamini Abhaya, not SF, it is a done deal. Also the people despises Ranil, Mangala, Mano, Rauf, Ravi, Lakshman etc, lot more than they like SF. I have the feeling that the monkeys and donkeys have a higher chance in drowning together with SF if he really get suckered in to this bad deal. Regardless, it is the time for everybody to loose ego an reconcile.
Asylum seekers on hunger strike
(01:38) Report Nov 10 (Reuters)
Nov 10 - Female asylum seekers from Sri Lanka on hunger strike to draw attention to their plight from women's groups, as Australia says the boatpeople are economic refugees and not eligible for asylum.
Bugger! These bitches are going to lose weight even without going to the gym!
p.s. KB,thanks ;-)
Then again, I wonder if there is a MacDonalds in that area of Indonesia?
hehehe...
d,
"war heros has run for office through out the world.
But never against each other"
oh yes, they have. israel is just one example.
SF as we know him, cannot join with the traitors who seek to divide our motherland. I refuse to believe this. He might be critical of the government and so am I. But under any circumstances, he cannot join the traitors who supported LTTE. If I know what these gang of traitors did to destroy the country, well, he knows 1000 times better than me. I am sure that he will never join with the LTTE pooches.
While we argue out these matters, we must remember that there are a number of LTTE moles planted here in disguise of patriots. They would spread misinformation and try to destroy the unity of the patriots. This, we must never allow.
Remember, during 2002-2006 this was a country which was almost divided. Even MR went to war reluctantly and amidst LTTE provocations. But it is the patriotic forces which stuck together and gave strength to MR, GR and SF to win the war. Whatever happens, we MUST stick together. That is the only way that we could continue to defeat our enemy.
Now, LTTE does not have weapons. But they always can plant moles to spread disaccord. We must watch out for such approaches and fight back. What ever happens, we must pose a united front against the enemy. Otherwise, all the work done and all the lives lost would go to waste.
Should we ever be divided and fight amongst us, those who sacrificed their lives for the country would curse us and we would burn in the hell for eternity. Under no circumstances should we ever let this happen. Death to imperialists and their pooches; long live our glorious motherland!
casc,
"India wants warships it lent to Sri Lanka returned"
yes, they don't want SL to have bluewater capability.
1. SL can build 100 MT ones
2. approach china for a ship or two
sooner or later we will have to co-operate with a big boy in the region. and we definitely cannot patrol our waters alone, its too big.
hope this has nothing to do with,
1. RW's india visit and UNP's desire to dismantle weapons
2. asylum seekers from SL and to SL
3. indian plans to violate our waters far away from coast on a regular basis
4. TN fishermen issue
Blogger Moshe Dyan said...
d,
"war heros has run for office through out the world.
But never against each other"
oh yes, they have. israel is just one example.
I meant war heroes, not retired army personel.
War heroes are retired army personel who has won a war.
Blogger Moshe Dyan said...
"He is clearly protesting against something MR has already decided to implement which he thinks is really bad."
we discussed this.
1. not increasing the SLA to 500,000
2. not emphasising enough on the combat-readiness aspect of SLA. more emphasis on assisting reconstruction work
3. not giving enough power for the CDS position
4. taking away the 57 and 58 divisional commanders from operational (ground) positions.
- these 2 divisions achieved most SLA achievements
5. not "vinasha kirima" of some terrorists among IDPs(????) and/or resettling them.
6. doing 5 above speeds up resettlement. but without a larger army will lack security, according to SF.
7. possible disagreement on 13
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I was looking for the correct answer, you get that in many multiple choice q and A
ie
None of the above
If any one of those were the issue, he could have easily found enoug people in the government who would support his position and use that leverage to change Mahinda Rajapaksha, that is how it happen in any government.
මෙවට කියන්නෙ බබා හුකුං කියල
Deshal said...
SF as we know him, cannot join with the traitors who seek to divide our motherland. I refuse to believe this. He might be critical of the government and so am I. But under any circumstances, he cannot join the traitors who supported LTTE. If I know what these gang of traitors did to destroy the country, well, he knows 1000 times better than me. I am sure that he will never join with the LTTE pooches.
Deshal read my blog
Is Gen. Sarath Fonseka Running for President of Sri Lanka?
Prove me wrong.
An open letter to General Sarath Fonseka
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Honourable Sir, soon after your victory, a friend who was working in Bahamas wrote me and asked me, "Isn’t history repeating?" Yes it was! You are not an ordinary person or a commodity. You are our nation’s hero. We want to die thinking that we were living in an era of heroes and in an epoch when history repeated. We want you to be our most respected hero and not our President. Please sir, do not betray the nation.
Beautifully written article by Dr. Nimal Kasturiaratchi
Click here for full article
[Military ready to assist in operating essential services]
Good News ! Wishing you all the Best!
Let's teach a lesson for those Lazy guys..
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. The fate that reached our beloved personalities like Mr. Algama and Mr. Janaka Perera (I do not know their professional designations) is good testimony. Further, it seems that you are joining the group that dragged them into politics and had them killed! Do not for a moment think that these were random events- they are probably not.
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Good point. although all above occurred when LTTE was here. There was always a credible suspect.
Since LTTE is no longer here, there will be only be one suspect. That is why those who care about not creating anarchy must make sure Gen. SF is protected.
DoDo said...
An open letter to General Sarath Fonseka ....
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Before making such a decision try to be humble; a value that we all can borrow from Christianity.
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WTF. So being humble is not a value in Buddhism.
Other than that good letter.
Panhinda - பன்ஃகின்ட said...
Since LTTE is no longer here, there will be only be one suspect. That is why those who care about not creating anarchy must make sure Gen. SF is protected.
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The more likely suspect would be RW, because he will gain much more votes than when he was alive. The possible suspect would be external intelligence agencies who want to destabilize the nation.
Blogger Thusitha said...
WTF. So being humble is not a value in Buddhism.
Other than that good letter.
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Here is a better letter.
පින්වත් ජෙනරාල් සරත් ෆොන්සේකා විරු පියාණෙනි!
dear thusita,
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The more likely suspect would be RW, because he will gain much more votes than when he was alive.
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i suspect mosttly 'konde badapu cheennu' will buy that version.
Read my blog
Is Gen. Sarath Fonseka Running for President of Sri Lanka?
and prove me wrong.
Blogger Thusitha said...
Panhinda - பன்ஃகின்ட said...
Since LTTE is no longer here,
We shouldnt forget, that Laksman Cooray was attempting to assasinate the president many months after parabakarans death.
LTTE leaders might be dead, but not the low level carders and suicide bombers.
They are out their with a vengence. UNP and mangala are trying to drag SF into this danger to save themselves from political death.
deshapaluwa,
there will be few im sure that can be taken for a ride. but the vast majority will know who it was.
that is why MR rule will become untenable if anything out of the ordinary happens to Gen. SF.
only option MR has fight a clean fight.
panhinda,
"only option MR has fight a clean fight."
and that OBVIOUSLY includes exploiting ALL avenues of the SIXTH AMENDMENT to grill the (K)UNA selectively. it is legal.
moshe,
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SIXTH AMENDMENT to grill the (K)UNA selectively.
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i doubt both sides can go down that road considering,
10 years Northern Provice - UPFA
4 years NE Provices - UNP
pretty much add up to the same thing. i think both realised the complexities that existed then.
tamil issue that kinda solved itself. this struggle is about the next phase that affects everyone.
Blogger Panhinda - பன்ஃகின்ட said...
deshapaluwa,
there will be few im sure that can be taken for a ride. but the vast majority will know who it was.
that is why MR rule will become untenable if anything out of the ordinary happens to Gen. SF
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Nope public will blame UNP for dragging Gen into politics. The unpatriotic ,general sacrificing label is permenantly stuck with UNP.
Its easy to blame them, then on the other hand govrnment doenst control suicide bombers.
When Gen Janaka perera was killed Many people like you tried to stick it to the governmnet.
Dindt work
When Chandrika was attacked by a suiced bomber many like you and your godfather victor iwan said (even in his book) that chandrika planed it herself
People didnt buy.
I have one one advice to low lives like you.
Dont play politics if you dont know how to.
deshapaluwa,
/*
When Gen Janaka perera was killed Many people like you tried to stick it to the governmnet.
Dindt work
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exactly, becos LTTE existed as a suspect.
deshapaluwa,
everyone knows why this problem is here. they also know if MR abolish exec presidency everything goes back to normal.
its very simple. why he not doing so when its in Mahinda Chintana also?
OK folks,
Large scale mud slinging has begun. I was hoping it wouldn't come to this. But it seems MR has let loose all his balu kukkas. (Now it is irreversible)
Kukkas,
Remember one thing. You were the ones who started these mud slingings.
Mahen is all over the place.
Mahen arguing with Mahen and agreeing with Mahen. (If SF reciprocates accordingly I do not know where this is going to end.)
I am disgusted.
This may be the last time I am writing to this forum.
I know. Kukkas are never going to miss me. But I may miss few good men I met here. Like Ninja, Asithri bro. , Sam and few others. Thank you brothers. It was fun being with you.
Another avatar of Mahen is at work (LNP-stopterror) This is a sample.
"Matter of fact Army Intel that was under Sarath Fonseka was responsible for the murder of Sunday Leader Editor will be brought to attention. The attack on Sirisa TV station was also his intel group's action. The abduction and murder of many people are catalogued and ready for presentation."
http://www.lankanewspapers.com/news/2009/11/49968_space.html
Adios true Patriots.
Shame on you balu kukkas.
Blogger Panhinda - பன்ஃகின்ட said...
deshapaluwa,
everyone knows why this problem is here. they also know if MR abolish exec presidency everything goes back to normal.
බලපං මගෙ කොන්ඩෙ පිටිපස්ස දිහා, .... බැදල නැහැ.
I'm not going to waste time on you anymore.
Blogger hemantha said...
OK folks,
Large scale mud slinging has begun.
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Mud slinging= Baseless false attacks
Gen. Started it with his Washington speech with an anonymous, generalized attack against the government.
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"Matter of fact Army Intel that was under Sarath Fonseka was responsible for the murder of Sunday Leader Editor will be brought to attention. The attack on Sirisa TV station was also his intel group's action. The abduction and murder of many people are catalogued and ready for presentation."
Actually the UNP said this, way back, Then MR protected him against these allegations.
Why is SF allying with the people who attacked him?
Blogger hemantha said...
OK folks,
Large scale mud slinging has begun. I was hoping it wouldn't come to this.
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Where do you live Mars?
Politics is mudslinging.
A triple amputee of vietnam war who was injured during a battle, held his senate seat for several terms was defeated in 2004 after labeling him as a traitor (a triple amputee) and allying with Osama bin laden.
There is no such thing as clean politics prove me wrong if you can.
Gen. by entering politics will be defeated and will tarnish his good name.
Shame on him
panhinda,
mere statements cannot be used in this regard.
concrete evidence is needed like,
1. CFA which violates the 6 amendment
2. transporting weapons/goods for tigers
3. clearing communications equipment for LTTE at the port
4. accepting money from LTTE fronts.
e.g. ravi kallathoni
5. pongu thamil
many present (K)UNA big shots did this.
hemantha,
there are balu and balli kukkas for both sides!!
but leaving the blog is NOT the answer bcos these divisive buggers must be neutralised.
deshap,
stop this mud business. it cannot take us anywhere.
that ponnaseka2010 joker must be laughing now.
"Matter of fact Army Intel that was under Sarath Fonseka was responsible for the murder of Sunday Leader Editor will be brought to attention. The attack on Sirisa TV station was also his intel group's action. The abduction and murder of many people are catalogued and ready for presentation."
MIA said the same thing!!!
something BIG is going on here.
IF one team member thinks he can screw his other team members by teaming up with pigball, etc, he is sadly mistaken.
Moshe Dyan said...
hemantha,
there are balu and balli kukkas for both sides!!
but leaving the blog is NOT the answer bcos these divisive buggers must be neutralised.
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Yeah,
This blog does not belong to any political parties. This blog belongs to who ever puts nation first instead of their political affiliations. Therefore you should stay, otherwise this blog would have only one set of opinions.
Hemantha, you have to accept the fact SF will get mud thrown at him if and when he decides to come to Politics. It is reality and I am not sure there is any point about being upset about the fact.
Then you would need to think of as a politician. So naturally there would be plenty of mud flying every where. If he is serious about it, he should get some PR guys and do the same stuff Obama did so that he can address all the mud slinging. Putting your head down in the sand would not make the mud go away.
And if he decides to run, I am sure there would be lot of Patriots who love our armed forces would end up doing the same, not because he is running for the president, but because he ended up joining a crowd of traitors.
But lets wait for his decision, and we will find soon enough.
there has to be a way to calm things down.
no one really wins. there has to be compromises from all sides.
TN Reports
News reports from Colombo indicate Sri Lanka government is planning to revise the Theasa Vazhamai law of Tamils, which is a constituent legal code, ever since the formulation of the island’s current legal system by the Dutch. The urgency of the Sri Lanka state at this juncture is not social reformation but grabbing the lands of Tamils without legal hurdles, besides removing last vestiges of Tamil sovereignty in the state apparatus, Tamil legal circles said.
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Interesting. People say we have no problem buy land in the North. But now TN is crying to keep the law intact. Government should get this law ASAP as this is a discriminatory law.
Oh my God!
This is going to be the worst nightmare. Before long, international community will get to know about all HR violations, war crimes and media attacks with enough details and evidence to hang our winning team twice. Not only our so called patriots spiting upwards but they do it against the wind direction too.
Tamil ealam supporters and Diaspora will be laughing from arses.
K @ K
Perhaps its not advisable for Gen. SF not to join politics at this stage.
I suggest an alternative strategy. He should watch the progress from overseas. If things continue in a bad state, form a party of his own with expats and return to sl.
Everyone must read this:
http://www.lankaenews.com/Sinhala/news.php?id=11025
Panhinda,
Mate, I think SF has gone too far with seasoned politicians like MR. Not only he has experience, now he has power and support also. I cannot see how SF is going to come out of the hole which he dug himself like a fool.
I also like to curse MR and GR for letting down their trustworthy friend and a war hero like this.
K @ K
keshara,
Gen. SF is stickler for discipline and how to do things properly. i understand the reasons for him wanting to contest (if he does). he probably just cannot stand cheating goons such as MR.
karu jayasuriya for example ex-army officer - same could not stand MR nepotism and left.
going forward, i think the common candidate should be Rosi Senanayake - has national and international appeal and could possibly win even though a novice.
anyhow im off!
Hemantha,
Bro, please don't quit the blog. You don't know me but I know you for last two years, mate. You know know me very well with a different handle but not with this one.
Simply We cannot uplift down falling masses
but we need you here brother.
Panhinda,
Bro, I always respected you for speaking from your heart as usual. I am not that young but Rosi too old even for me. Rosi may be good for something else but not to lead the country.
You seems to be tired, go and have good sleep bro.
Keshara-කේශර said...
Panhinda,
Bro, I always respected you for speaking from your heart as usual. I am not that young but Rosi too old even for me. Rosi may be good for something else but not to lead the country.
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Haha. In mid sentance she goes from English to Sinhalese and then again back to English. Another confused member of the UNP.
Patriots,
Puffy had already posted the link to this article, but it deserves full exposure here at DW.
The dogs trying to split the GOSL and the SLDF can stop barking now!
Who believes their election gundus anyway?
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Defence Secretary speaks out on General Fonseka issue
Defence.lk
October 31, 2009
Responding to criticism of an alleged attempt to sideline Chief of Defence Staff General Sarath Fonseka and to deny the war veteran the credit he deserves for spearheading the war against the LTTE, Defence Secretary Gotabaya Rajapaksa says a group of bankrupt politicians are now working overtime to destabilise the country.
"This is nothing but a despicable plot being hatched at the expense of the entire country," Rajapaksa says.
Unlike the previous moves by the Opposition to weaken an elected government, this is an attempt to sow dissension among the country's battle-hardened armed forces, the Defence Secretary alleges. Those who play politics with national security in a post-LTTE era will incur the wrath of Gods and voters at the forthcoming elections, he says.
In an exclusive interview with The Island, Defence Secretary Rajapaksa, who played a pivotal role in destroying the LTTE, said that they (the Rajapaksas) had been accused of clipping General's Fonseka's wings by appointing him as the CDS. Dismissing that allegation as a canard, he said, whoever held that post had enormous powers and influence over the entire security establishment. In fact, the CDS chaired a powerful committee comprising the three service chiefs and other officials, who handled the country's defence, he said.
Defence Secretary speaks out on General Fonseka issue
....continued #1......
With the consent of the President, the Chief of Defence Staff may hold the post for two years and be given extensions in service biannually.
The CDS is tasked with issuing orders regarding strategies of the armed forces, assisting the Defence Minister, developing a strategy for overall work of the armed forces, coordinating intelligence activities among the armed forces, assessing the strength of potential enemies, preparation and evaluation of plans related to the armed forces, preparation of policies for the training of joint armed forces and preparation of policy for the UN peacekeeping operations etc.
An irate Defence Secretary rejected the Opposition allegation that the former Army Commander had been ill-treated by the government: "Let me tell you that General Fonseka was appointed as CDS with his consent. Although, I haven't discussed this issue publicly before, I have no option but to reveal what really transpired."
Rajapaksa said: "Once the army had wiped out Velupillai Prabhakaran on the banks of the Nanthikadal lagoon on May 18, we focussed on the proposed changes at the top command and the control structure of the armed forces. The President had to promote Navy Chief of Staff Rear Admiral Thisara Samarasinghe as the Commander before June 16, when he was due to retire. There were not many options. One of them was to appoint the then Navy Commander Admiral Wasantha Karannagoda as the CDS, thereby making the senior most serving navy officer Chairman of the apex defence committee."
Defence Secretary Rajapaksa said that after taking General Fonseka's opinion into consideration, the President had appointed the former army Chief as the CDS. General Fonseka succeeded Air Chief Marshal Donald Perera, who received top diplomatic posting to Tel Aviv.
The President had had no alternative but to move Admiral Karannagoda to a civilian post though the government very much wanted to retain him in the defence field, Rajapaksa said. There had been absolutely no effort, he said, to sideline any army officer. But unfortunately, the Opposition and a section of the media had gone to the extent of blaming the government for offering plum diplomatic posts to serving officers.
Responding to our queries, the Defence Secretary said that an influential section of the international community, too, had thrown its weight behind the Opposition campaign. Although the media had a right to criticise the government and support any political party, attempts to propagate lies could not be allowed.
The Defence Secretary said that then President J. R. Jayewardene had brought back Cyril Ranatunga from retirement to lead counter-terrorism operations. Gen. Ranatunga had executed the famous Operation Liberation in the Jaffna peninsula. Gotabaya Rajapaksa, who commanded Gajaba troops in that operation, recalled the then Army Commander Lt. General Nalin Seneviratne telling troops that he only provided officers and men needed for the offensive. Successive governments had similar positions but none had gone so far as to institutionalise the post of the CDS through a parliamentary Act, Rajapaksa said.
"Don't forget that I made critical changes. The Army Act and the Pension Code, too, were changed," Rajapaksa said. But, perhaps the most important change was to enable a serving officer to take over the CDS post, whereas all previous appointees had been retired officers, he said.
Defence Secretary speaks out on General Fonseka issue
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Dismissing allegations the CDS appointment had been an ad-hoc, the Defence Secretary said that a committee headed by veteran civil servant M. D. D. Peiris had taken over two years to finalise the proposal. "The committee interviewed all service commanders and many other senior military officials and also researched similar structures in other parts of the world before making submissions to the Attorney General's Department as well as the Legal Draftsman," he said. According to him, the final report had been reviewed by the defence top brass again before approval was granted.
The Defence Secretary said that process had been parallel to the war against terror.
He said anyone who had doubts was free to make inquiries from the committee. Nothing could be as bad as an attempt to claim that his appointment as CDS was a comedown for the General, Rajapaksa said adding that if one cared to go through the list of serving officers assigned to CDS, one would see that the argument being peddled by the detractors of the government did not hold water.
The Defence Secretary revealed that a section of the officialdom, too, had been uneasy about the creation of such a post. "In fact, some questioned the need for such a powerful institution," he said. "But I was confident that there would be no trouble and that the government had utmost faith in the armed forces."
While declining to comment on security provided to senior military leaders in keeping with the government policy, the Defence Secretary said that no one should take the Opposition's claim of lack of security for military leaders, seriously. "We have adopted unprecedented measures to protect the military leadership. They are given the best of security," he said.
Rajapaksa said there was nothing wrong in military personnel entering politics but definitely not in uniform. He said that their triumph over the LTTE had been the result of a joint effort spearheaded by the army. He said one of the most important decisions taken by the government had been to double the strength of the army while bolstering the the ranks of navy, air force, police, STF and Civil Defence Force.
Defence Secretary Rajapaksa, who survived an LTTE suicide attack within months of General Fonseka escaping death in a suicide strike, said the Opposition seemed to be making a desperate bid to challenge the President whose popularity was at its zenith. He said that the government was fully confident of meeting the threat and taking whatever action necessary to ensure peace and stability in the country.
Rajapaksa emphasised that the country's triumph over the LTTE was evidence that it was capable of facing any other threat successfully.
Courtesy : The Island
Panhinda,
A religious fundamentalist like Rosy Senanayake shall never be our president.
Sooriasegaram, a Tamil expatriate, tells his experience of his visit to Sri Lanka in August 2009 – Part Two
http://www.srilankaguardian.org/2009/11/sooriasegaram-tamil-expatriate-tells_10.html
I also like to see Rosi as the UNA candidate.
(Then MR can win by 80%)
Kattiyama set wela SF issue eka gana kathaa nokara immuda? Ethakota me 2010 hora thadiyage plot eka honadat peneyi. Ape kattiya api apita mada gahana kota eva yata yanavaa.
So pls let's stop it and focus on the evil elements in this forum and their plots
Jay/Missy;
You tactically withdrew from my Qs on IDPs. Being two ppl who constantly bark about that topic you bear responsibility to answer them.
Everyone;
Pls force Missy and Jay to answer my Qs on IDPs. They keep up high flying tear campaign, but when we ask something they ignore us.
You are responsible in answering Qs related to a topic that you raise.
I will be repeating my Qs again after this comment.
Missy and Jay;
Re: IDPs.
I have many Qs unanswered and hope you will not do so this time.
1. Do you think Wanni IDPs will never be settled?
2. What is the reason for keeping them in camps, as per your view? Note that for GOSL sending them is cheaper than providing for them.
3. If Pussycat cadres are among them, do you think that we shud still settle them and risk terror attacks?
4. Isn't having terras mingled among them, a good enough reason to keep them, until filtering is over? [although there exist many other good reasons like clearing etc]
5. Missy is endorsing to hand over them for friend's care. But that is purely abandoning them. Current process of settling them in their own lands with basic needs fulfilled is better. If we just dump them at friend's house how will they get their lands cleared? Any thoughts on this?
6. In case we are to settle them directly in their lands immediately, w/o bomb clearance, we'll here damages quite often. What is your take on this?
7. We hear that IDPs of east are settled completely, do you think it is a fake news?
8. If a group of ppl are kept in detention forever certainly that is unfair. But if the group of ppl are genuinely being settled within a realistic time frame, what is wrong in that? You/me can request for shorter time frames, but those who really do the work can come up with something realistic.
9. Eastern IDPs settled in < 3yrs. Isn't is a good enough timeframe?
10. IDP settling is not racially biased. Sinhala Tsunami IDPs still live in camps. In fact Northern IDPs are lucky, as nobody talks about Tsunami IDPs at all.
11. If I say that, not only your claim for northern IDPs is unfair, but also your disregard of similar IDPs in Tsunami camps is totally racist [as they're mostly Sinhala] how would you reason?
I need clean straight answers with facts, not many other proverbs, calls about my IQ level, or personal attack. Also no diversions.
We'll see how it goes
Patriots,
The terorist elements in our society have began removing cutouts of our General Fonseka.
The Road Development Authority (RDA) has received orders from the Presidential Secretariat yesterday (10) to remove any hoarding with the photograph of Chief of Defence Staff General Sarath Fonseka.
http://www.lankanewsweb.com/news/EN_2009_11_10_005.html
Sujeeva,
Missy who is an expert in everything known to mankind has gone back to the the engineering school to figure out how to restore the infrastructure destroyed by LTTE using caissons. She came up with some hilarious and clueless suggestions of how to fix the damages. For Missy, it is very simple, just use caisson. Given her Jedi knowledge in everything, she is wondering why things don't go forward in Sri Lanka like magic. It is unlikely that She and Jay Pina will ever answer your questions. However, they will be back after suffering from amnesia.
I am certain that the Great General will not make a professional suicide by electing for Presidency under a*se clowns UNP et al.
My wish is for Mahinda to hold Presidency for two terms, and put forward General Fonseka as the Presidential Candidate from the party for the next term (2016?).
Sri Lanka needs someone who is anti-corruption as a leader. Unfortunately, Mahinda has yet not proven in this aspect, even though he has been great in many other aspects.
May be Mahinda is a true 'politician' than a leader like Li Kwan Yu.
Sam;
If they talk so much about IDP, they gotta be answering us the ignorant laymen or village idiots questions. If my memory was right this whole "IDP Issue" came up when Missy COMMANDED ananda to go to an IDP camp ASAP and write her some report or something.
Fine, now it is their chance to return answers.
Truth is they have no answers, they only know to continue smear campaign of fake atrocities.
Another truth is they are not paid for answering our Qs.
Patriots,
The People's Campaign has made it to the frontpage of Irudina newspaper
http://www.irudina.lk/
[[The People's Campaign has made it to the frontpage of Irudina newspaper]]
Horaage ammagen pena ahuwaa wage.
guys, I will be off for a while. Few days. Pls get missy and Jay to answer my Qs on IDPs.
However I would like to come to a negotiation in case they do not have answers. That is missy and Jay shud stiop the topic IDP all together.
If they still talk about it, I would again raise my hand and ask my fair Qs. Pls help me in my absence.
Patriots, it's true that we defeated peelamists but we have not totally eliminated them.
So for the moment, this is a very useful news item which I manged to find on "How to Recognize a Peelamist"
http://www.nationalpost.com/news/story.html?id=2203768
If you see someone of this manner running around the neighborhood, please call the white van team (you know the numbers .. ha ha )
The former Vice President of Sri Lanka Nidahas Bhikku Organisation of Colombo District, Ven. Malabe Seelaratana states that there is no basis at all to issue a decree on General Sarath Fonseka in the event of his candidature at the Presidential election. The Ven. Monk pointed out that a decree on General Fonseka could be issued if he has been disloyal or engaged in some treacherous act in the country but not merely because he is contesting with President Mahinda Rajapaksa.
Speaking on a news item on a decree to be issued on General Sarath Fonseka, Ven. Malabe Seelaratana said there are many who have betrayed the country in the ruling party if they want to issue such a decree. He added that a prejudiced sector of the Sangha cannot take a decision without the collective consensus of all sectors of Sangha followed by an extensive deliberation.
Accordingly the Ven. Seelaratana makes a request to the public not to be mislead by the news items issued by a sector of favoured monks who also have got ‘Sarath Bheethikawa’.
I now support SF’s entry into politics.
Earlier I had some concerns but now that Ranil has laid down the conditions, I am ok. Yes, I am the Sole Representative of Tamils so what I say goes.
There is a view that this fuss is all about Ranil wanting to get at PE position (either directly or through a proxy) at ANY COST, but surely we will not believe such will we? No evidence of it anywhere right?
Can't spend too much time here as I am still trying to negotiate our way out of this mess in Indonesia and get to Australia where we will have all the comforts.
Do not believe all those stories you hear about me when I was in Canada. I admit I only shot at fellow Thamiz only a couple of times, threatened them only a couple of times, did heroin selling only for a couple of years but the blaady Canadian police framed me and deported me.
Anyway, I am very interested in Shri Lanka politics and hope to join TNA as a candidate very soon. UNP Ranil has promised us cabinet minister positions so I think this is my last refugee-inventing job.
/Rosi may be good for something else but not to lead the country/
Agree. She is not into this patriotic nonsense and therefore, she is a good woman.
There are rumors she can take a whole Pathola down her throat without batting an eyelid so I think she should join the canal enlargement program to apply her skills.
Ranil puts forth conditions for endorsing Fonseka’s candidature
Appoint govt. with Ranil as PM, revoke Emergency
Give TNA, JVP Cabinet posts, end Exec. presidency
TNA should accept Fonseka’s stand on Tamil issues
What a shameful man
Blogger Tamil Savior said...
There are rumors she can take a whole Pathola down her throat
May be thats what tempted certain ppl to ally with UNP.
Tamil savior do you have any news about who replaced Kumari Cooray for Hakiem?
දේශපාලුවා (about Ranil)
/What a shameful man/
I suggest you stop this kind of talk.
Did you know that....
If not for Ranil our boys would not have survived this long. Ranil asked SLN to allow over 19 shiploads of stuff to be brought to us not secretly, but openly via Mulativu, he disbanded many SLA posts and allowed us free movement including sending suicide cadres to Colombo, allowed us pongu-thamiz rallies (where we had effigies of SLA and bayoneted them and spit on them and set fire to them), gave us high-tech tel-sat comm equipment from Norway (that allowed us to track thamiz traitors and liquidate them), etc. etc.
So, please do no come here and blame this man who had a vision for peace and reconciliation in Shri Lanka.
දේශපාලුවා
/who replaced Kumari Cooray for Hakiem?/
This Hack-him was always a blaady womanizer. Too bad about Kumari but she played with a traitor - or should I say she played with short-change - and got burnt (pardon the expression here).
This Hack-him is now into many other targets and at the time my boat left, it was rumored she was doing a North-South, Top-Bottom dialogs with Rosy and Maithree. In the latter's case, Ranil is known to be overjoyed.
Sorry, since my boat left, I am out of touch with the scene.
දේශපාලුවා
/May be thats what tempted certain ppl to ally with UNP/
True.
Even here I see there is a RW UNP dog named "Panhinda" who is like that.
Now could it be that this dog can also take a Pathola all the way down his throat like Rosy does?
hak hak hak!
Time to check on the thangaatchis in the deck below as they were going on hunger strike. They will go on hunger strike, but I promised to feed them Pathola.
Bye all.
link-up of LTTE remnants and Maoists in India ?http://www.atimes.com/atimes/South_Asia/KK11Df03.html
two very good news items from toiletnet.
1. Sri Lanka expands number of troops and officers in its armed forces
2. Fear and suspicion have risen among the residents of Jaffna peninsula as Sri Lanka Army (SLA) in Jaffna is actively engaged in hastily setting up minicamps and sentry posts manned by small groups of soldiers in the interior parts of Jaffna peninsula, sources in Jaffna said.
only terrorists need to fear. others are happy.
the way to go.
SL has done a strategic mistake RIGHT THROUGHOUT history by dismantling defence forces after winning the war.
dutugemunu, vijayabahu, parakramabahu to DSS, SWRDB, etc.
only excpetion being the KANDYAN KINGDOM where they maintained a steady force. the results are OBVIOUS.
at least now we MUST maintain a sizable troop number.
pop = 20 million
1% = 200,000
landmass = 66,000 sq km
2 per 1 sq km = 132,000
at the very least we need (200+132)/2 = 166,000
ACTIVE troops at all times. we have to allow for vacation & leave as well.
if 4/52 are on leave at any given time, we need 166*(1+4/52) = 180,000 troops. with required equipment.
this is the minimum. we may need to constitutionalise this. otherwise a HOMA like RW will change it for the opportunity to do a blowjob to a tamilelamist.
SF factor in sri lankan politics
I personally believe that SF must not come to politics under UNP with Kiriella, Mano, Mangala and so on. If he comes it would be disaster for his carer as well as for him...what if he fails?
If he really wants to come to politics why he can’t come himself without any party?
We will never forget what kiriella, mano and mangala told about him and army ....
news about SF in hindustan times and thehindu.
General Sarath Fonseka, Sri Lanka’s chief of defence staff (CDS) and an architect of the military victory against the LTTE, is likely to resign by the end of this month.
Mano Ganeshan, leader of Sri Lanka’s Western People’s Front (WPF) and Colombo district parliamentarian, disclosed on Wednesday that his party along with several other opposition parties were engaged in discussions with Chief of Defence Staff Sarath Fonseka on fielding him as a candidate against President Mahinda Rajapaksa in the event of an election.
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if that happens he would become the MOST POWERFUL yet MOST USELESS CDS we ever had.
that is rather unfortunate.
mark my word, politics at the expense of defence, will be his end. especially so if he joins with RW crap.
win or lose, its the same fate. SF CANNOT change RW-mongal-gona son-hack-him crowd.
that is BULLSHIT.
either they will change him or change his death certificate.
SF should consider weighing up,
his dislike for MR
against
his direct and/or indirect support for traitors.
The article in the Island says that the war was won due to the integrity of the present armed forces. It’s a very interesting article to read.
http://www.island.lk/2009/11/12/features2.html
Blogger lankaputhra said...
SF factor in sri lankan politicsI personally believe that SF must not come to politics under UNP with Kiriella, Mano, Mangala and so on.
So does the vast majority of sri lankans
but not SF
If he comes it would be disaster for his carer as well as for him...what if he fails?
He is sure to fail
by the way now there is no "if", it is "When"
Read my blog
Is Gen. Sarath Fonseka Running for President of Sri Lanka?
and prove me wrong.
Sri Lankan troops will step in to run services
We finished one set of Terrorists, and another raises their heads up. Cannot believe people fall in to the hands of JVP.
They are one on the main reasons for the rise of the LTTE. Now they are doing it again.
Blogger Moshe Dyan said...
SF should consider weighing up,
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He has past that point.
giving the striking JVP MFs the taste of army ironfist is a good thing at this moment.
that will make their dumb brains realise what they will have when a former army general becomes the president!!!
JVP as always digging a toilet pit for its own grave.
desha,
we have to agree to disagree on this and move on.
its still IF not WHEN.
Deshapaluwa,
You seem to be an ardent MR supporter/fan/worshipper; I have few questions for you mate:
Q1. Why MR is not appointing constitutional Council and Election Commissioner according to 17th amendment?
Q2. Why he is reluctant to be firm with people like Mervin Silva?
Q3. Why he is spending so much public money on his presidential palaces and day to day affairs?
Q4. Why he is not taking actions against police brutality?
Q5. Why he is building family empire?
Q6. Why he is hiding his intentions on 13+ amendments so far?
I need answers to above questions to clear my mind about where he is going and what future hold for us, if he is to continue for next 6-8 years.
Thanks in advance for honest and meaningful reply.
K @ K
Deshapaluwa,
I think as Moshe suggests we need to move on.
No one knows what will happen. All of the news emanating from Mano Ganeshan and the UNP is false.
I too, like many Sri Lankans, pondered the what ifs of SF coming into the political picture.
The Government initially behaved irrationally about this possibility but they seem to have come to their senses. There is no point humiliating this man. That will only build up public anger against the Government.
The greatest danger to Sri Lanka is not whether SF comes into politics or not. It is whether foreign forces make an unwelcome entry similar to what happened under the JRJ regime (e.g. the Indo-Sri Lanka agreement). There needs to be eternal vigilance against that possibility.
kevin,
a beauty!!
thanks for sharing.
beautifully written.
http://www.island.lk/2009/11/12/features2.html
1. lanka logistics
2. elimination of arms dealers
3. standardization of purchases
4. involving the USERS in purchasing
5. using university physics, etc. professors in asessing capabilities of weapons
6. timing of purchases, managing lead times, stock control
7. investigating corrupt deals.
tigers knew we were serious by 2007. lack of corruption surprised them.
together with pro-LTTE media crappies they started inventing stories.
the corruption story about BLUE HORIZON-2 UAV (local name KELAMA) was classic. it changed the war.
LTTE should be happy when we allow corruption. why then were they crying for OUR corruption?????
idiots.
fonseka mahattayo oya desapalaneta enawa nam enne rata gena aadar
ekata nam newe.bala tanhawata.
mahinda hinda oya hamudapati wenna waram lebunane.e hinda balaye rasa dannawa ati.
mata matakai eka parak oya kiyanawa "mama desapalne
dannet nehe,karannet nehe ,danneti dewal karannet nehe,mama wurtheeya soldaduwek witarai".ane mage kata fonseka mahattayo.
me yuda jayagrahanaya kandayam jayak.oyage pudgalika wasanawak karaganna epa.
tawa eka wishesha deyak kiyanna one.nikan hari wanni yudde api paraduna nam , bella gahala yanne oyageda mahindageda.mahinda maththyage neda.ethakota dinnama oya weeraya.paradunama mahinda waga uththarakaru.
nikan warige naha gannetuwa mahattayek wage oyage wada kotasa karala nihatamani widiyata inna.rata maha winasayakata aran yannetuwa.
Blogger Keshara-කේශර said...
Deshapaluwa,
You seem to be an ardent MR supporter/fan/worshipper; I have few questions for you mate:
Nope You have misjudged me.
to me My country and nation is bigger than you, me, Fonseka or Rajapaksha.
We are not elamists who think Prabakaran is elam and elam is Prabakaran.
Q1. Why MR is not appointing constitutional Council and Election Commissioner according to 17th amendment?
There is a constitutional problem and a government officer hierarchy problem here, CA Chandraprema of the Island had an analysis in 2007 I will try to find it an post it in my blog.
Q2. Why he is reluctant to be firm with people like Mervin Silva?
That is politics, no where on this world you will find a politician without henchmen like that. Obama tried without briefly and failed miserably. MR has handled these people better. We dont have ministers sons going to clubs and terrorizing occupants everyday now. Nishantha Muthuhettigam is under arrest now. MRs ability to handle these people effectivly for their job is one reason why he is effective and why I like him.
Q3. Why he is spending so much public money on his presidential palaces and day to day affairs?
This is UNP mudslinging, you have spent too much time on lanka news web, can you show me credible reports on his palaces? I asked you a question like what lord buddha asked from Kisa gothami.
Day to day affairs is another matter, again no credible reporting. He's not spending money on Cognac brandy like other leaders. If he is spending money its on day to day affairs of the presidential office. So that money is spent on doing peoples work, whats wrong with that? we cant get work done for free, if hes spending a lot of money on work he must be getting a whole lot of work done.
Another technical point one spending money by government. You might have heard about Keynesian Economics, which shows that when government spend money that money is not burned it ends up in somebody hand, people of this country so they can invest that money on some project maybe employe a few more people. This is governmnet stimulating the economy. Read about it in my blog.
Q4. Why he is not taking actions against police brutality?
Again UNP Lanu. He has, more than any other government, not perfect, but better. There is an inquiry on SSP VasGunawardena, and a case against his wife and son, and the other police officers who were accomplices of the Malabe incidengt. The Agulan OIC and his acomplices are in remand case pending, The Bamba beach murder cop and accomplices are in custody. Tell me which political leader went even this far? We cant have a perfect world, what we need is the lesser of the evils.
Q5. Why he is building family empire?
Another Lanu. I dont understand this question. Sure he has many of his brothers and relatives in government postions. But havent they proved themselves as worthy. Dont you like how GR handed the war? Dont you like how Basil thwarted the Indian pressure, in 2007 December when they were almost about to intervene to stop the war.
This is called sinhalayage hati, we are a forgetful nation.
Again, tell me which leader dindt appoint his friends or leadres to vital postions? We cant have a perfect world. If MRs family appointees are inefficient then we'll speak against it, but if they are getting the job done why bother unless of course if you are jealous about it.
Q6. Why he is hiding his intentions on 13+ amendments so far?
This is a good question, not a political lanu by UNP. MR is under international pressure to devolve power beyond 13 (13+) this is no secret we see appeals by "international community" on newspapers web sites every day. If he passes amendments then that is detrimental to the contry and it undermines the victory over LTTE, and also its determental to his political base. By the way Ranil has said that he will provide the votes nessacry to pass 13+ if needed. if he says he wont pass 13+ international communinty will have a good oppertunity to isolate our country and push us into chaos and ruins. I think he's holding his word untill the heat over it passes away so that he can bring ammendments that are favourable to the country. This is a trick that politicians play every where in the worl. I am not beleiving this just because of blind faith, but becase of signs I see.
1. Not extending Dayan Jayathilaka.- Dayan proposed 13+ in the UN, without even consulting the president, you can see the president has slowly sidelined him.
2. Tissa witharana-- Tiss came out few months back and said that the all part council that was set up to draft an amendment is now ineffective, we all remember this Tissa witharan commision was proosing 13++ stuff, you can see MR has neatly sidelined Tiss too.
Historically speaking unitary state has been MRs trade mark, he is the only government MP to walk out of the parliment when Chandrika's political pakage was about to be voted in 1999 or 2000, and he depend on the Mahanayaka's so its hard to think he would go against his base.
This is my analysis, I think its fair, its blid faith. If you have facts and can show that MR is supporting 13+ tell me about it.
I need answers to above questions to clear my mind about where he is going and what future hold for us, if he is to continue for next 6-8 years.
Thanks in advance for honest and meaningful reply.
You see my friend we cannot have a perfect world we just have to settle to the least worst.
That about the most honest answer you'll get from a politician.
Apologies gentlemen, the answer was too long.
I will try to publish a cleaned up version with links in my blog.
OK, now these are the basic questions.
1. Which one will come first, PE or GE?
2. Who will contest for PE? From UPFA, MR. From (K)UNA..?
3. Will SF resign?
4. Will MR accept the resignation, if SF resigned?
5. Will SF come to politics?
6. Will SF join (k)UNA?
7. Will SF run for PE from (K)UNA?
8. Will RW too run for PE?
9. Who will win PE?
10. Who will win GE?
What next?
We have other questions too, why? if? if not? how?
Anyone like to answer these questions please do so. I will reply after nominations are closed. Until then good bye for every one.
Blogger CASC said...
Deshapaluwa,
I think as Moshe suggests we need to move on.
I already have and, doing something about it
No one knows what will happen. All of the news emanating from Mano Ganeshan and the UNP is false.
Nope they are true, read my blog (second article) please
I too, like many Sri Lankans, pondered the what ifs of SF coming into the political picture.
He's going to get humiliated and loose. and I dont like that.
The Government initially behaved irrationally about this possibility but they seem to have come to their senses.
Yes now they know Gen. can be beaten and it is way more advantageous for them than Ranil or anyone else running
I will have an analysis on this soon... in a couple of days ... :-)
fonseka mahattayo oya hadanne rate minisunwa walmath karanna.api mahinda sarwa sampurnaya kiyala kiyanne.
hebai mahinda wena nayakayanta wada rata gena hengimak tiyena bawa apita wiswasai.oya ada weerayek wela inne mahinda hinda.
ranilge anduwe hitiyanam koti ape kollanta wihilu karanawa tamai balanna puluwan.
Blogger Ninja said...
OK, now these are the basic questions.
1. Which one will come first, PE or GE? PE
2. Who will contest for PE? From UPFA, MR. From (K)UNA..?
3. Will SF resign?
4. Will MR accept the resignation, if SF resigned?
5. Will SF come to politics?
6. Will SF join (k)UNA?
7. Will SF run for PE from (K)UNA?
8. Will RW too run for PE?
9. Who will win PE?
10. Who will win GE?
Read my blog for the answers.
Read my blog
Is Gen. Sarath Fonseka Running for President of Sri Lanka?
I'm gonna step out for a little while. I'm not a big shot, just concerend about my country.
If you guys have questons about this SF saga, please post them in by blog as a comment.
I will try to answer all in my next blog.
Is Gen. Sarath Fonseka Running for President of Sri Lanka?
Deshapaluwa,
Thanks, mate. Not bad replies at all.
I agree that MR as the least bad out of the lot. Let us watch proceedings as they unfold. GR is excellent in his capacity as SD. SF also excellent in his capacity as commander.
“JAYAWEWA”
K @ K
whatever diagreements, deshap's answer is very good.
evryone has the right to political arseholes (opinions).
but national security is above all that.
nanda,
don't run away when difficult problems arise.
lol!
there are OTHER matters to discuss.
Kevin,
The article in the Island by the retired DIG is a gem. The country needs more rational and sane people like him.
friends,
A close discussion is held between SF(I) and MR. SF(II) reports.
The outcome is unknown
http://www.lankanewspapers.com/news/2009/11/49995_space.html
Hope this is true and will work.
ooops.... SF(2) seems to be correct...
see
http://www.lankadeepa.lk/
news at 2009 nov 11 at 10.40
saduni,
SF@LNP has a foot note refering to Lanka Deepa.
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