A cautionary note on the present situation re Gen Fonseka. Our task was to allow things to settle down on their own which has worked. However, recent developments led particularly by a section of the diaspora Sinhalese is a cause of concern for DefenceWire.
DefenceWire team's stance up to now has been to avoid commenting on this dispute knowing fully well the capacity of both the present government and SF to come to a compromise on:
1. The direction the Sri Lankan Military will take
2. The direction General Fonseka would have to go
These may not be the most ideal directions for either, yet they are ones that are at best described as realistic and unavoidable.
There are many moves by politically motivated Sri Lankans, including Sinhala groups and also non Sinhala Sri Lankan groups to exploit a disagreement that has unnecessarily spilled over into the public's eye due to politics in the military and a very small section of the military in politics.
These groups, particularly those civilians involved who are not insiders or have little inside information can or will not understand the discipline of a professional soldier to take what he wants and to relinquish duty when required sans insubordination.
A professional soldier is not Dutugemunu. The Sri Lanka Army/Military is a modern Army/Military positioned within a democratic society. The professional soldiers serving in it will know when to let go. By asking them to perform a larger role based solely on selfish motives of individuals in the periphery, they may destroy that soldier and even themselves and their reputation.
The Sri Lankan Military and its leaders are now hailed the world over for their victorious feat. Their role in bringing peace to the country through military means will be remembered for decades to come as the ultimate example of a trained military executing its sacred task flawlessly from start to finish. But remember this, dear readers, military action is a means of achieving the end and the end is always political.
DefenceWire, as an impartial site whose work you have witnessed for over 3 years now wish to appeal to our readers to refrain from joining or supporting either 'camps' and to allow the professional soldier and professional politicians to resolve potentially resolvable issues mentioned above.
Thank you
Saturday, October 31, 2009
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«Oldest ‹Older 1401 – 1600 of 4363 Newer› Newest»sanduni,
you beat me into it.
i wanted to say MR should talk to SF and address his grievances IMMEDIATELY.
i came to this conclusion after checking out the BBC news item. in that the first photo shows SF and MR. SF looks really sad. it is a honest sad look. i feel pretty bad to see him like this.
MR should give SF WHATEVER he wants (at least until the elections are over). i don't think he will make bullshit demands. so far he hasn't.
anika fonseka mahattayo oba thuma chanda wedikawata awith mahindawa wiwechanaya karanne kohomada.
mahinda netnam oya ada nikamma nikam pus wedillak witarai.me anduwa hida neda oyage wurtheeyata arthayak labune.
oba thuma awankawama ratata sewayak kirimata desapalanayata enawa kiyana eka wihiluwak.
lankawa den kisiyam diyunuwe margayakata wetila tiyena mohote e siyallama apassata harawanna epa.mulu ratama saapa karai.
Moshe Dayan,
Yes, MR should give whatever SF demands at this stage. I dont think they have a big problem that can not be solved.
The problem is the politicians who try to put him to the dirty political game. L. Algama and Janka Perera came in to my mind.What they have achived from politicsÉ.
SF will be just a tool to gather sinhala buddist votes (now UNP is lacking) by polititians.
Even if SF and MR have patched up during the meeting they shouldnt let it be known to the wider world..SF should resign and accept UNA nomination,
THEN AFTER NOMINATIONS HAVE CLOSED SF WOULD ENDORSE MR AND PULL OUT..
Afterwards MR should give SF the field marshal's baton and make him Deputy minister of Defence or Sec. Def..Gota can be National security advisor..
November 12, 2009 7:06 AM
Moshe Dyan said.......i came to this conclusion after checking out the BBC news item. in that the first photo shows SF and MR. SF looks really sad. it is a honest sad look.
Moshe,
I think they both look rather distraught. I remember seeing Shekar Gupta's interview with President MR last year. The president has a personal gym and in the interview he looked very fit for a man who is approaching is mid sixties. Of course during the war, he could not go any where so he was forced to follow a very disciplined fitness regime. Not long after he came to office a group of Buddhist monks and lay people got him to ban alcohol from the President's house and from all Government functions. He seems to have aged a lot recently.
As you have indicated, its in his interest to resolve this matter amicably with General SF.
Diyasena said...
Even if SF and MR have patched up during the meeting they shouldnt let it be known to the wider world..SF should resign and accept UNA nomination,
THEN AFTER NOMINATIONS HAVE CLOSED SF WOULD ENDORSE MR AND PULL OUT..
Afterwards MR should give SF the field marshal's baton and make him Deputy minister of Defence or Sec. Def..Gota can be National security advisor..
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My thoughts exactly, but this would put the country in to chaos temporarily, which is not a good idea at the current state we are in.
Deshapaluwa,
Thanks. Not bad answers.
Yes as you said all the politicians in the world got hench man around them.
MR is taking his family to the politics. Yes he has a capable trust worthy family to do that. Not like RW. RW doesn't have a future family.He doesn't have sons or daughters.(Uge okkoma kollonge puk wala)sorry for that.
Who says RW doesn't do that?? His all close associates in the party and other places are Royalists ( I am not against Royal). Prove me if not.This was told by a good friend of mine a Royalist.Even senior party menbers are not happy about that. Why he puts all the conditions to SF??? He doesn,t want SF to be the commomn candidate.Is he not a dictator???? If not he should have resigned from party leadership long time back. Bull shit. When he went to India,Indians dislike SF as common candidate as he is a good friend of Pakistan and China.Still he wants to be the candidate.He knows SF is not like others and if becomes president!!!!!!!!??????
I don't like If SF becomes candidate for opposition. He is a great general.But not a experience politician.But still i am sure most of the people scared of him. Because he is a clean case at all fronts so far.
Still i want to see him as our war hero. Great commander we have ever produced.World best war stratgedist.
It will be a suicide if he decides to go and join with the traiters who went against him during the period he most wanted. If he takes that dicision there should be a valid reason also. That's why i feel people helped you should not be side lined. Mr is not smart in that way.Infact that is southerners' normal way of treating the people. Kick the people whom helped you.
casc,
i remember reading it from you sometime back.
yes, he looks like he has aged suddenly.
may he live long and prosper.
diyasena and thusitha,
good pla. but the last bit - NO!!
he should not. he should stay on. and lose the election (or win the elction and get rid of the scummies). its the executive president!!!
either way it is good.
if he loses, he should stay on and go for the GE, help govt get 2/3 on his conditions!!
3 birds in one stone. i can imagine RW's face!!!
Got a brief chance.
Glad to see the meeting between SF and MR. SF must be seeing the kinda fools who hang around in UNA and also seeing how nakedly they're gonna use him [their own public wording for that], and how unrealistic to get that as long as old fox RW is jealous.
So Sunday Leader again did a national service by slinging a ball of mud at him. It became an eye opener for SF, but a bulk of opium for hardcore UNP who prefer RW over SF. UNP's opium provider is S. Leader.
There is no better opportunity that MR can offer to SF than giving him an electorate inside Colombo. It will surely turn tables in the last fronttier of MR which he never won, plus, give SF a sizable region to work for. SF can take all the UNP votes already seasoned by likes of Sarath Manamendra in his Fonseka 2010 campaign. It is the best answer you can give to all the sneaky game players in the back of it.
And when victorious SF should be entrusted with a responsibility related to national security/police/coast guard.
Hoping for positive outcome before I take my break. Hoping to see good happenings when I come back.
Also wishing all the best for our expats who attend the presidential meeting tomorrow. Another hope for out future.
Meanwhile those shameless two arses Missy and Jay still stay away from answering my Qs on IDP. So next time the two pundits try to share their abandoned two soviet cents of IDP affairs, please somebody commemorate their good old mommas and tell them first answer my Qs before further building up conspiracy theory.
I want my Qs [anyone can add on] to be a baseline for any pundits of IDP to get qualified. Pls help to achieve that.
Friends as promised here is the article on 17th amendment, and why it is impractical.
වයිෆ් ගෙන් බැනුම් අහ අහ, රෑ නිදි මරාගෙන සර්ච් කරල හොයාගත්තා.
Read and enjoy.
An Amendment From Hell- C.A. Chandraprema analyses the 17th ammedment.
"The 17th amendment is inconsistent with the presidential system of government and indeed even with the parliamentary form of government."
"imposing the 17th amendment on this country was a major mistake made by the JVP."
MD,
Mate, you some times write complete BS here. I am sorry to say this but take this as a brotherly advice; It is better if you can slow down and avoid haste posts.
he should not. he should stay on. and lose the election (or win the elction and get rid of the scummies). its the executive president!!!
Give me reasons for him to lose purposely, his idea of contesting is to get what he wants, then why he lose it.
How can he get rid of scum’s; they are the majority and who holds balance of power.
if he loses, he should stay on and go for the GE, help govt get 2/3 on his conditions!!
If lose PE; why he wants to stay with UNA and make MR win by 2/3rd.
He is contesting to beat MR not to make him win. Also do not assume RW, Mangala, Mano Gona and the ponna clan is complete fools.
These statements are not logical at all!
Bro, think and write!
K @ K
I will not caste my precious vote to SF over MR ever.
Further, if SF contests with RW, Mangala, Mano clan; I will do anything and everything possible to bring SF down.
K @ K
Hi Guys
SF is going to resign today (Nov 12).
WHAT I FEEL IS HE WILL NOT GOING TO CHALLENGE TO MR.THIS IS A PART OF A UNBELIEVABLE BIG PLAN.
kk,
this is the scene.
in the given case of diyasena and thusitha, SF stays in the (K)UNA and contest the PE.
1. he MAY win - well and good
2. if he loses - still OK. he should take the (K)UNA to the GE. that is if he doesn't lose badly. he won't.
that gives him a say in getting likeminded ppl around him which makes it easier to work with in the parliament.
kk,
i was refering to this.
"Diyasena said...
Even if SF and MR have patched up during the meeting they shouldnt let it be known to the wider world..SF should resign and accept UNA nomination"
Patriots,
After three months of hard work, involving taking on political terrorists of many hues, the People's Campaign has tasted victory at first stage with General Fonseka submitting his resignation letter today.
The CDS post as you all know was a way for the Rajapaksa family to declaw our General and keep him away from the Sri Lankan people he loves dearly. The CDS post is useless and previously held by people like Donald Perera.
From now on General will focus on the people's campaign, which now has more than 15, 000 supporters on Facebook.
As we promised early in the campaign, in Januray we will release the full manifesto, a draft of which can be found on the blog fonseka2010.blogspot.com
We would like to take this oppertunity thank all the people who have supported us during the past difficult three months when political terrorists have been attacking us from all fronts.
Patriots, terrorism, beit Tiger terrorism or the political terrorism of the R Bros supporters, will never win.
Prepare for CHANGE.
SLFET,
Who are you and what is your source?
We need uncorrupted people to lead this country. A leader who can return the country back to the parliamentary system where all ethnic groups share equal power. Check our plan. A leader who is willing to hand over the country to true multi-ethnic leaders like Wikramasigha, Ganeshan, Hakeem, and Samarveera.
Fonseka2010 -Sri Lanka First
Yes We Can
This is CHANGE WE CAN BELIEVE IN
Fonseka 2010,
How is the weather up there?
Real Patriots,
Finally, General Fonseka is going to hand over the country to true multi-ethnic leaders like Wikramasigha, Ganeshan, Hakeem, and Samarveera.
Fonseka2010 -Sri Lanka First
Yes We Can
This is CHANGE WE CAN BELIEVE IN
Mamath hebey MR ta thamai me sare
chande danne. Meka me pareekshana kara kara inna puluwan welaawak nevee.
Fonseka 2010 ganang ganda epa honde..
Thawath ekak, SF aawoth mata honda wiswaasayak thiyenawa hamudaa palaanayak ethiwena bawa. Mekatanam mama kohomath kemethi ne.
If SF is going to resign it is a bad show. His expertise in military strategies and planning will be much missed.
But I guess there will be an equal or better replacement in the army!
DW,
Time to come up with a new thread.
this was published about 6 months back in unreliable lankaenews.
but it is interesting in the given things.
"(Lanka-e-News, May 28, 2009, 6.40 PM) Ranil Wickramasinghe, the leader of the United National Party (UNP) has sent a message to the President Mahinda Rajapakse informing that he will not contest the Presidential to let Rajapakse to win it without a contest. In return, Wickramasinghe has asked for the post of Prime Minister.
Three UNP MPs said to Lanka-e-News that they had come to know from the sources in the President’s office that three such messages had been dispatched. They said that in one instance the Speaker W. J. M. Loku Bandara had acted as the broker and in another Ranil Wickramasinghe’s close associate Lalith Fernando had mooted the idea."
1. the odea of premature PE was there immediately after vezapillai killing
2. RW had his doubts of winning even by then.
Guys,
/General Sarath Fonseka, the Chief of Defence of the Sri Lanka Army on Thursday resigned from his post, informed sources in Colombo said./ Tamil Net
Is this True
MD
I don’t know much about that Wicramasinghe who worked from an office behind BMICH.He should be groomed to be politician like the Prime Minister. It’s seems that he had done a splendid job coordinating the logistics for the war effort. He should be given a powerful position with all the authority to steam ahead with the development of the country’s rustic infrastructure. Should we bring the island to the standard of Singapore then we should fear nobody or any event trust upon us.
After reading that article I have began to have hope for my country of birth.
saman,
yes.
today morning i quoted hindustan times which said SF will resign by 30november. but never did i think it would happen today.
shit situ.
he was the most powerful CDS ever. but he didn't do a proper job at the CDS.
kevin,
yep. such a wonderful person.
it is heartening to know they are still left in SL's public sector.
even the writer of the article is capable of many good work.
there should be a system to pick and chose such ppl and should be given AUTHORITY and responsibility. never mind they have retired.
Moshe Dyan said...
saman,
yes.
today morning i quoted hindustan times which said SF will resign by 30november. but never did i think it would happen today.
shit situ.
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Shit, I thought this was another rumour. Any more news? Any idea what the next moves are?
Jay said...
..hic..
Announcement on 11th Nov?
November 8, 2009 7:18 AM
Hi Guys,
The good General has resigned...It is a shocking news..but 50 50 expected....
I think he has done this after discussing with MR yesterday... He must have just quit from his position but I do not think he will ever mix up with Awa-Mangala and Ran-nil and Gona-son.
If he is not happy of his new position, he has the right to resign... But he is from good stock who will never mix up with shit..
God Bless Sri Lanka along with MR GR and SF ever.... May Triple Gem bless you all for saving our beloved motherland. Let Solhem and his gang go to hell....
We should not foget howmuch pain he has taken during the final battle...without any break..following up everything and commanding live.... Without his master planning and tough stand we may not have won the war in such a short time... He also must be considered as a Father of the Nation..
Also Gota and MR deserve the same..for protecting the forces from external pressure.
Now MR should respect his resignation and not take his security away... He should be given the same protection may be forever...wheter he contests for Presidential Election or not...
But I strongly believe he will not go in that path to divide the country again and to allow ponna Ran-nil to sigh another pack with Solhem and dead LieTTE.
Therefore, Honerable dear President and Defense Secratary, Please do not remove our good Genarals security whether he is in duty or otherwise.....
Jay said...
Jay said...
..hic..
Announcement on 11th Nov?
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R U talking on some kind of code?
Sri Lanka's top general resigns, may run for president
COLOMBO (Reuters) – Sri Lanka's top general, who engineered the defeat of the Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam after a 25-year war, has resigned, sources said on Thursday, amid speculation he will run for president as an opposition candidate.
General Sarath Fonseka is expected to challenge his commander in chief, President Mahinda Rajapaksa, in an election due to be held by April.
If Fonseka enters the race, analysts expect it to weaken Rajapaksa's core voter base and erode the incumbent's present monopoly on claiming political capital from the war victory.
I am happy if SF is given the Foreign office in the USA provided they do not mingle with him... He can then work in a respectable position also protecting the interests of our country until he decides to leave permanently if he wishes so to join his daughters...
.... We need him around to respect him.. WE do not want to lose the respect to him and therefore we do not want him to join with the shit...
Patriots,
We can all see the desperation of the political terrorists of the Rajapaksa clan becuase they are using the 'Fonseka2010' name to try and descredit the People's campaign. They did the same and failed on Facebook also.
Patriots, today is a historic day in the history of our country.
From now on we will refer to Gen. Fonseka as President in Waiting.
Yes We Can!
CHANGE is on its way.
Once more we can be proud of this country of ours.
News/Gossip circulating in CMB.
MR does not call PE for another 18 months..
GE held early 2010 with SF as nominated PM?
Please do not belive or spread rumours.
For many months many people have been trying these tactics.
The People's Campaign is now stronger than ever before. Next role for Gen. Fonsea is President of the Democratic Socialist Republic of Sri Lanka.
If the Rajapaksa bros do not call PE in 2010 we will make they do it. There will be nonstop strikes across the country and also the men and women who put their lives on the line to rid this country of Tiger terrorism will also lend their support to eradicate political terrorists.
Patriots, it is time we Sri Lankans take back our mother land from foreign invaders and pathetic politicians looking to make billions for their families in the expense of all Sri Lankans.
Fonseka 2010 said...
If the Rajapaksa bros do not call PE in 2010 we will make they do it.
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So, is the Ponseka policy? Take over the country by undemocratic means? Threatening a democratic government?
NO. Gen. Fonseka will only become president after getting majority votes from Sri Lankans. But we are only saying we will make sure Sri Lankans have the opportunity to vote for their leader. That is the difference. Gen. Fonseka will never become a dictator.
[News/Gossip circulating in CMB.
MR does not call PE for another 18 months..
GE held early 2010 with SF as nominated PM?]
Bunch of Capos, MR and SF company, will fight for the supremacy, in that process blood will be spilled.
Either way I want these war-criminals dead within next year.
Moshe,
ok i see what you meant earlier.. regardless no offense was meant .. ur sincerity and well meaningfulness for sri lanka is known here as far as i know.
Fonseka2010 says
""Patriots, it is time we Sri Lankans take back our mother land from foreign invaders and pathetic politicians looking to make billions for their families in the expense of all Sri Lankans.""
what are you eating brother.
this sounds like you are talking about the UNP government Ranil and JR would like have.
theres good politicians on both sides. but the pathetic politicians outnumber the good. so what you wrote can apply to both the UNP and the SLFP or what not.
I really hope Gen. Fonseka does not put in a bit for the post because he should realize that he is being used as a pawn from a freaking desparate ranil ... i bet there are some members of unp ( apart from about 18 who left in disgust and such) who would want to beat the daylights out of him and have a DEMOCRATIC voting process to elect a new leader.. but NO.. you cant do that .. because the constitution of the party is such that you cant kick out the leader by any means.. and SHAMELESSLY ranil calls on MR to abolish executive presidency.. Which i hope MR will eventually do. He is entitled to have his run of one or two terms and lets hope that the rough edges we see right now will be ironed out.
meanwhile Ranil should eat his own words and at least change the party constitution where if the party members dont like the leader he should be able to be voted out of it .. without even trying to sort that issue in his party out .. this power hungry loser should stop trying to convince a good general to run for president just so he can get another whiff of power... (not to develop the country or anything like that).. just to let more robber barons run amok.
jesus buddha mohammed shiva ghanesh satan.. who ever.. lets hope we get rid of the pathetic politicians bit by bit in our country and pave way for a more responsible accountable set.
President MR
Leader of Opposition: SF
Not a bad idea at all....!
Guys, take a moment to remember who predicted it first.
Blogger දේශපාලුවා said...
Again
My analysis is not based only on junk sites.
1. Other reputed journalists articles.
2. Actions taken by the government.
3. Actions by SF
He is running man, he is running, no doubt about that, now the discussions are about whether hes getting only the leadership of the UNP lead coalition or the UNP leadership as well.
October 28, 2009 12:02 AM
Ponna Ranil's plan is to kill SF during presidential compaign with the help of CIA. Then they will blame MR for it and Ponnya will be UNF presidential candidate. He will make use of SF popularity to win elections.
Fonseka 2010 said...
Patriots,
When mother Lanka was in grave danger from internal terror, one man took up the challenge of leading our forces to victory.
Now, our mother land is once again in danger. This time from external terror in the form of India and West attempting to impose their own "solutions" on all our people, Tamils, Sinhalese and Muslims.
Let's HOPE that the same man, the greatest General in the world, will hear this call to duty.
Let's BELIEVE that he will lead our nation to victory from 2010.
Let's all say YES HE CAN!
August 18, 2009 7:17 AM
Patriots,
General Fonseka is a gift to our nation.
He is the man who will lead our mother land to its yet unfulfilled glory.
General Foseka should not contest under the banner of any existing political party.
With our support, he can contest under his own banner of national pride and unity.
If all patriots unite in the Fonseka 2010 campaign, then there will be no divisions.
We need a selfless man, who is free from all earthly desires, to lead our nation into its promised glory.
Please contribute:
1. fonseka2010.blogspot.com
2. twitter.com/fonseka2010
3. facebook.com/search/?q=fonseka+twentyten
August 18, 2009 8:07 AM
Kaurawa wanshaya Fonseka can never be the King.
Blogger Maha Raja(paksa) said...
Kaurawa wanshaya Fonseka can never be the King.
So you want a Royalist, living in Cambridge Place to be Raja?
Patriots,
Battle for DEVELOPMENT begins on December 1st.
Prepare for CHANGE.
I saw today SF on his way to Kelani Viharaya. He has to rethink about if he is having enough security for him. :(
He indirectly told to the media that his next move is to Politics..
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If he contest as we predicted as a common candidate with the help of Mano and mongal, there is no reason to worry MR about is election campaign. Mano will try to convince the tamil people to vote for SF and that will be one reason that Sinhalese vote for MR. OTOH most of the Tamils already decided they will vote for MR not for SF.
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So my request for our Hero Gen SF; please do not come to politics. You are always an Hero for us.
A better solution to peace process impasse in SL would be two-state solution.
Whoever thrones in Lanka, be it MR or SF or RW, SL will continue to be an apartheid state if they can't produce a compromising solution for both parties as Federal or 13th +++++.
[So my request for our Hero Gen SF; please do not come to politics. You are always an Hero for us.]
Ado Mukkal,
"Allaku Akhwar" is no longer your fuk buddy?
I predicted this first, I beat all the web pundits, all the seasoned veterans in newspapers , all of them.
I am the greatest.
[I am the greatest.]
Yes, Crocodile-man, you're the best.
Blogger Bhairav said...
[I am the greatest.]
Yes, Crocodile-man, you're the best.
And I will predict the Gen cant win.
Analysis later
Tamils in sri lanka are not entitled to any devolution in sri lanka...if they want devolution or to achive tamil national aspirations ...they must go back to toilet nadu or else DIE
Blogger දේශපාලුවා said...
There is no stopping boys he's running.
October 27, 2009 9:08 PM
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Blogger CASC said...
දේශපාලුවා
You should not believe anything that Lankaenews or LankaGuardian says
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Blogger Sam Perera said...
Deshapaluwa,
Please take a more cautios approach as CASC suggest
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Blogger Sujeewa Kokawala said...
Deshapaluwa;
Sorry mate. I am failing to see how SF can be a common candidate for PE.
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Blogger Moshe Dyan said...
do you think SF in right mind will ever join ranil, mongal, hack-him, mano gona-son, etc????
NOT EVER!
there is nothing to worry. this is a grand plan of MR-SF to split the few patriots who have been fooled by the UNP.
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Blogger Asithri said...
Deshapauwla,
Time out okay...I have been watching your posts for awhile and now I am beginning to get a smell
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Blogger Thusitha said...
දේශපාලුවා said...
This doesn't this is just an analysis of what would happen.
Yes, he is hypothetically speaking. That does not mean he knows what SF is going to do.
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Blogger දේශපාලුවා said...
Friends,
Lets not fool our selves, there is no stopping to this, mark my word its Oct 27 2009.
October 27, 2009 10:19 PM
Ha Ha, I'm good
Guys,
I think we are concerned too much about the whole thing.
We should always look from Sri Lanka's point of view. Not from any individual's.
As far as I can see, there's no immediate security threat to SL (as a result of this SF issue). GR and the team are doing great job as always.
Also, as a wise man once said, when you cross a river using a boat, don't carry the boat on your head as a respect to the boat. [HW: Who said this?]
Similary, we should not carry MR, SF or any other in our heads. We are greatful for what they did. But we have to carry on.
Also, everyone thinks, after being successful in one field, they are automatically qualified to be a politician. Eg. Arjuna R, a lorry load of actors and actresses. There's nothing wrong with these individuals. It only shows the pathetic situation of SL politicians.
I am optimistic. After all these new alliances and competition SL will have a better set of politicians at the end. [Note: I said better not best.]
I sincerely hope that Gen Fonseka will not contest under UNP or its gay alliances.
He simply can not win!
Gen Fonseka should not act like an insect who has shown a candle light.
He must act foolishly.
This is for his own good.
I know their whole family, and has been very close in some way. So, I know his character very well.
He is motivated by tasks, challenges, and accomplishments.
He may be thinking that it is one of the biggest challenges that has been given to him by anyone to contest and win the Presidential election, and his blood may be looking for that challenge.
It is time for him to give that blood rush a rest and say "NO"!
I suggest him to start his own private Defence Acadamy/Consultancy/Strategic Think Tank. I am sure that he would have ton of business and he would really 'retire' as a billionaire if he has done that.
It would serve his blood rush too.
I humbly request SF not to join the UNP loosers' club, who once gave away the whole country to LTTE on a plate.
Correction above: He must NOT act foolishly.
Blogger NOLTTE=Peace said...
I sincerely hope that Gen Fonseka will not contest under UNP or its gay alliances.
Hes gone baby
He didnt resign to work on his back yard vegetable plots.
new video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nlDqKWypH4k
general speaks about government
Come on, my good chaps, give the good general a break. He did his duty to the nation and fumigated each and every terrorist scumbag that dared to raise his or her ugly head. For all we know, the old boy will retire peacefully, play some golf and tennis, play with his grand kids, have an occasional gin&tonic, smoke a fine cigar, and generally have a bally old good time. He has bloody well earned it and we should wish him best of luck.
Cheers!
Crocodile man,
Obviously, many so called patriots- modas- down inside knew that Greed-man would flip sooner or later but they do not want to be marginalized by tribes-mindset of moda bandwagon for jumping the gun quickly before it becomes true.
These modas just worried about their non-existent image on this blog than their balanced perspective. You Sinhal modas are in a total paranoia that one less Tamil would make SL as one secured Lanka.
Blogger Bhairav said...
Crocodile man,
You Sinhal modas are in a total paranoia that one less Tamil would make SL as one secured Lanka.
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You dissapoint me man.
Blogger Chanaka said...
lankaweb, asian tribune sinhala.net attacking general sarath
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You mean politician Sarath?
aqua,
no offence taken, mate.
cheers.
2 avenues for SF IF he is going to contest PE.
1. (K)UNA
2. other
if (2), he will only spoil MR's vote and has 0% chance of becoming president. he may allow RW to win and have another tamil elam crap here.
if (1), he may or may not win.
if he wins, well and good. he is a patriots and will fight corruption. RW cannot bring in another tamil elam.
if he loses, patriots still don't lose anything. they have MR.
also he will spoil TNA votes. 2 ministerial crap posts cannot bring tamil voters to the (K)UNA.
so, it is actually good if he contests from (K)UNA than independantly.
now there is only a retired army general (there are so many) who is a POLITICIAN. he is not a army officer anymore.
so GR's order of keeping SLDF personnel from political bickering does not apply.
This is what he said 4 months ago
Politics not for me. SF on July 2009
"Politics not for me,’’ says Gen. FonsekaChief of Defence Staff General Sarath Fonseka last week dismissed speculation of the possibility of his seeking a political career saying he didn’t want to lose his popularity within 24 hours.
Addressing a packed press conference at the Joint Operations Headquarters, the war veteran recalled the fate of two of his senior colleagues, Maj. Gen. Laskshman Algama and Maj. Gen. Janaka Perera who perished in LTTE suicide attacks.
Referring to UPFA MP Mangala Samaraweera’s assertion that he wasn’t even suitable to command the Salvation Army, Fonseka said that the MP wouldn’t have made that ridiculous statement had knew the difference between the Salvation Army and the Army. (SF)
thusitha,
we discussed about SF's silence. i have to admite that you were correct.
he DOES use silence for his POLITICAL advantege. he does it again!!
now he says he will decide whether to enter politics or not when he hands over his uniform. ridiculous!!
just buying time. an OLD political trick.
what DEFENCEWIRE said has added meaning now.
well said DW.
Gents,
I want to second Konnapu Bandara's statement. Let's give him his credit. Don't malign him.
First, mate MD sorry about my misunderstanding about your post yesterday.
Well, Well!!
Mr. Fonseka has given resignation notice and seems to be SLG is going to accept it. My well wishes to Mr. Fonseka. Let us forget about him until he comes back and announce his real motives for early resignation. He may not announce anything till Nov 30th. However, I think he is going to accept a high portfolio outside Sri Lanka instead contesting PE.
Let us rally behind MR for the moment to beet day light out from UNA crap.
K @ K
puligal.blogspot.com is updated
puligal.blogspot.com is updated
puligal.blogspot.com is updated
Guys,
Do you think SF's resignation will affect SL defence in any significant way?
I don't think so.
Main thing is to carry on the good job you've been doing so far.
ie.
1. Discuss ways to colonize (to immunize againt elam) the north.
2. Remind and discuss how to destroy all artifacts of pussy cats.
Btw, just imagine if the coolies brought in by Dutch had any form of dexterity (I mean, draw pictures on stones, make tools with sticks, etc. Not writing books.) we'll be in deep shit.
Good that they only knew how to shit on stones.
Friend I predicted correctly that Gen. Fonseka will run.
Here is my analysis why his loss is inevitable.
Why General Sarath Fonseka cannot win
Friend I predicted correctly that Gen. Fonseka will run.
Here is my analysis why his loss is inevitable.
Why General Sarath Fonseka cannot win
tata,
words of wisdom.
"Do you think SF's resignation will affect SL defence in any significant way?
I don't think so.
Main thing is to carry on the good job you've been doing so far.
ie.
1. Discuss ways to colonize (to immunize againt elam) the north.
2. Remind and discuss how to destroy all artifacts of pussy cats."
"to immunize againt elam"
what lovely words. come to think of it. very true.
we should remain focused on long term defence of SL.
the powers of the CDS position was raised for SF, still we have to admit from a defence POV that SF did a lousy job at CDS position. SL has nothing to lose.
kk,
shouldn't. mate.
your first statement means you have a concience. not ready to accept BS. that is MOST welcome!!
should never hesitate to call BS, BS by ANYONE.
(of course with reasons). its a RARE 'ability' called integrity.
when you take my comment in isolation it DOES sound crazy. my bad. should have copied the context.
kb,
yes.
hope he does it gracefully as he has always conducted himself.
ppl calling him portuguese is unacceptable. how low can they go?
from island.lk
After the meeting while Gen. Fonseka was walking towards the door, according to highly placed sources, a smiling President Rajapaksa said, "Sarath, you can always come back to me after your defeat in politics."
lol! a good start for his political career.
"Gen. Fonseka’s resignation came hot on the heels of the UNP-led Opposition’s call that the CDS should wait till the President announced a snap presidential election at the SLFP Convention on Sunday (Nov. 15), to resign."
this is not an issue bcos,
1. the resignation comes into effect on 1 december
2. SF will announce his entry into politcs after handing over his uniform which will take a FEW WEEKS.
when that will happen is upto SF to decide.
jay was correct in his prediction.
1. that means SF was working to a plan which was known to some. (jay is no prophet!!)
2. tamil elamists AT LEAST knew it.
Blogger Keshara-කේශර said...
Let us forget about him until he comes back and announce his real motives for early resignation. He may not announce anything till Nov 30th.
He already has.
Read my blog
Deshapaluwa,
No; he has not yet announced his intentions to public. If he has, give us a link. Your article is all about your deductions; isn’t it?
K @ K
a) How can a ‘Green Card permanent residency holder’ from the US and aspiring to be a US citizen be a dedicated President to Sri Lanka. Isn’t it divided loyalties?
b) As the west is anxious to bring down the government, will Sri Lanka have a pro-western puppet government? And will the General be another Don Juan Dharmapala abdicating to the west?
c) How much money from the LTTE coffers had gone into the UNP and the lame-duck political parties to sponsor Gen. Fonseka as as a common Presidential Candidate?
d) Isn’t it obvious that the bankrupt politicians are using him to get back on the saddle?
http://www.lankaweb.com/news/items/2009/11/12/gen-fonseka-tenders-resignation-rise-and-fall-of-a-general/
The General and the President – Beware and take care, the ‘Portuguese’ are once again at the gates!
http://www.lankaweb.com/news/items/2009/11/12/the-general-and-the-president-%E2%80%93-beware-and-take-care-the-%E2%80%98portuguese%E2%80%99-are-once-again-at-the-gates/
Where is Asithri?
He is man in the know. He is busy doing incest?
maha raja,
cut this portuguese CRAP!!
1. portuguese are not a world power today. so how can they capture power in SL???
2. so that leave only one possibility. ppl with portuguese to capture power.
3. that is BS, irrelvant and racist.
for your information, fonseka is not a portuguese name. it is a jewish name adopted by the portuguese in turn re-adopted by SLs!!!
"When the Roman Legions overran the Jewish nation, much of the Jewish population was sent into exile throughout the Roman Empire. Many were sent to the IBERIAN peninsula. The area became known by the Hebrew word SEPHARD meaning "far away". The JEWS in SPAIN and PORTUGAL became known as SEPHARDIM or SEPHARDI, and those things associated with the SEPHARDIM including names, customs, genealogy and religious rites, became known as SEPHARDIC. Many of the names were of Hebrew derivation. A much lesser number were composed of a first name and a geographic location, many times the result of conversion.
The 'de Fonseka' surname (spelled da Fonseca in Portuguese) is a Jewish (Sephardic) name. The name is listed in a well researched website as a Sephardic name and was confirmed by the creator/researcher of the site Harry Stein as such.
The names listed on this site have been identified as Sephardic by civil and religious records and creditable authors. Many of the names have been changed in the course of migration from one country to another, such as Pena to Penha. This could be the reason why the spelling has changed from 'da Fonseca' to 'de Fonseka'."
LOL!
so either way you are wrong.
correction
2. so that leaves only one possibility. ppl with portuguese names to capture power.
Blogger Keshara-කේශර said...
Deshapaluwa,
No; he has not yet announced his intentions to public. If he has, give us a link. Your article is all about your deductions; isn’t it?
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Nope in my blog I have stated and analyzed his resignation letter. I have also provided a link to that letter there.
Deshapaluwa,
OK, mate.
You have been very informative on this matter.
Thanks, Keep it up.
We will see how the drama will unfold in next few months. We also live in interesting and exciting times.
K @ K
Blogger Keshara-කේශර said...
Deshapaluwa,
We will see how the drama will unfold in next few months. We also live in interesting and exciting times.
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and sad times.
Folks,
So far all signs indicate that MR. Fonseka is going to be a traitor of the worst kind. It seems his grievances are all personal and nothing to do with national interest. I also feel those who have green cards should not be elected to law making offices as somebody else already pointed out.
K @ K
kk,
"It seems his grievances are all personal and nothing to do with national interest."
based on the little info we have (including the timing of events), i too think so although i find it hard to say.
but then even if your dad does something WRONG, it is wrong. past good does not turn it otherwise.
foreign residents/citizens should not be allowed into parliament, PCs, president. including basil. there are 2 in the TNA.
that will set a very dangerous trend. invest in a political campaign, win office, rob, leave country. safe from corruption charges. may be come back for the following (skip one) election and do the same!!
Moshe,
Very interesting history behind the name Fonseka. Thanks for sharing.
MD,
Very true, mate. I think this green card affair of SF will play major role if he opted to contest PE. Nobody wants an executive president with one foot in USA and the other jumping up and down in Sri Lanka. It also can lead to an unprecedented corruption.
Mr. Fonseka’s popularity must have gone down by half now and the rest will also melt away when he announce his intentions fully.
I am not sure about his life also now. As a common citizen he may be without state sponsored security. He may have to get private security. There are Tamils fanatics as well as die hard Sinhala fanatics who will love to take law into their hands.
K @ K
puligal.blogspot.com is updated.
Many women are having their monthly cycles and not enough pads to keep them dry…
damn it!
Fonseka's grivences.
http://www.lankanewsweb.com/Sinhala/news/2009_11_13_001.html
anyway, these are the challenges I am facing right now…..hope you guys are not having any problems like these to deal with in your own world…..fcuk, what did I get myself into!
Fonseka's highly confidential letter has ened up in UNP-LTTE, lankanewsweb site. Nothing much.
මට අරක දුන්නෙනෑ මෙක දුන්නෙනෑ, මට ඇනුම්පද කිවවා, මට හරිම දුකයි ඒනිසා මම තරහයි
Right now I think Mahinda must stop all his other priorities and ask a Shri Lankan flight to come here with adequate supply of pad for our women.....after all, WE ARE SRI LANKAN as our placard said.
Ado Desha, stop complaiing....did you listen to my problems? How can you be so cold?
Fonseka Fonseka Fonseka....
is all you blaady bastards keep saying and here I am having a problem of uncontrolled monthly-periods from our Tamiz thangaatchis in the boat and it is beginning to rot and smell (like how it was in FDLs!)
Blaady Singala arrseholes, get you priorities in order okay....phew!
Ha ha ha this is hilarious guys.
In the letter Fonseka, accuse the president of being suspicious about him on a non existent military coup.
And now he wants to run for presidency.
Who wants to sit on the thorn?
By the way, what is this fuss about Fonseka? Is it about Gen. Fonseka and not about Malini Fonseka?
Sorry guys, we only get Indonesian newspapers delivered to this boat and many of us read them very well as many of us have lived in Indonesia for over 6 years but these blaady newspapers do not give enough coverage of the international scene.
ha ha ha.....I can say that too!
Blaady thangaatchis are bleeding and what am I supposed to do? I am not Mother Theresa you know....blaady modayas.
However, we Tamiz will prevail…..we will win….we will form our own Tamizeezam soon!
Patriots,
I want to add a few notes in this sad moment. Regardless of General Fonseka's current stand, he did his service our nation in his best capacity. Not only that he was instrumental in eliminating LTTE terrorists. I am not knowledgeable enough to comment on what triggered this whole deal. Regardless, General Fonseka is an outstanding hero of Sri Lankan history of 2550 years. I will not disparagingly talk about his unless he tries to bring LTTE back. Unfortunately, what General Fonseka didn't get is that our motherland is much bigger than Mahinda Rajapakse.
Our warriors sacrificed their limbs and lives to defend our motherland, not to defend Mahinda Rajapakse. Mahinda Rajapakse is the current personification of revival of Sri Lankan nationalism. It was under the leadership of Mahinda Rajapakse that we restored the backbone of our nation back to the time of Gamini Abhaya. Under Mahinda Rajapakse's leadership, we started walking again with our heads straight knowing that we have the grit, courage, and skills to stand up against terrorists and unwelcome invaders once again. That is what all the unwelcome western powers doesn't like and want to replace with a white master worshiper Ranil to make us a spineless nation.
I sincerely hope that General Fonseka will not associate top scum of Sri Lanka (Jaathiye Paahara Ballo). Indeed, these are the very same top scum who did their to ridicule General Fonseka. Negativity of these top scum far out weighs the positivity General Fonseka can bring in. Therefore, I will not hesitate to exercise my birth right of voting to defeat anybody associating top scum of Sri Lanka.
Blogger Tamil Savior
LTTE has been defeated well gone, and eelamits are not here.
Its not fun any more.
Find a different act
SF concludes his letter by saying.
"I have the honour to be
Your Excellency’s
Obedient Servant
G S C FONSEKA RWP RSP VSV USP rcds psc
General
Chief of Defence Staff"
this is not the way a letter ends usually, even in the armed services.
Ada Desha,
Tell me.....were you that character Simple Simon in the cartoon I saw long ago?
No wonder we call you modayas.....when we come across blaady bugggers like you.
sam,
SF did a fantastic job as the AC, a lousy job as the CDS for 4 months.
WK will do a much better job as the CDS.
a simple thing in management, you should never promote someone to a higher role based on his present role. his capablities should be assessed for the higher role as if in fresh recruitment.
(jack welsh an exception.)
this was never done. CDS (the top most military position) was given as a PROMOTION to SF.
previously it was donald perera. it was not a promotion. if it was a promotion, it would have been shanta kottegoda.
Deshapaluwa,
I will not consider LankaNewsWeb to be a credible source of news. Apaprently, LankaWebNews has some classified information also. I want to see a statement from General Fonseka himself regarding his reasons to resign.
MD
/SF did a fantastic job as the AC, a lousy job as the CDS for 4 months/
What JOB was that?
It is not that he did a lousy job, he did not do ANY job at all but earned a pin-padiya and went abroad to look into his private, family interests at the first opportunity!
Blaady modayas.....don't know head from toe, arse from mouth!
MD
[a simple thing in management, you should never promote someone to a higher role based on his present role. his capablities should be assessed for the higher role as if in fresh recruitment.]
Peter Principle! Peter Drucker....said this over 30 years ago!
hak hak hak.....modayas have forgotten Peter Drucker I see.
Deshapaluwa,
You shall realize that MR is not perfect. It is the time for him and his advisers to reflect how we came to this sad position. It is better late than never.
Twelve political parties recently formed the Eksath Jathika Peramuna, or United National Front (UNF), which has the stated objective of combating the "corrupt and despotic Rajapaksa family regime". The opposition coalition believes Fonseka's credentials as a war hero will attract a sizeable section of the hardline Sinhala vote, placing him in a strong position to defeat Rajapaksa. Fonseka indicated some weeks ago that he is considering a job change. "Generals wearing uniforms will not remain in the army forever," he said.
hak hak hak.....now which of you brainy-modayas ever thought that this is the END GAME? i.e. that in the end it does not matter if Fonseka won or not the PE, but the real strategy is, like the above tit-bit states, to deeply split your patriotic Singala vote, which will see the GE going to RW-UNA (with Tamil, Muslim votes to add strength) and then it does not matter if MR survived as HE President, as he will have to deal with over 75% UNA parliament and a UNA cabinet - which will impeach him and if not will make it hell for him to rule?
hak hak hak....you bugggers are analysing what is to come like as if it is rocket science....typical modayas, I would rather face forever my LTTE thangaatchis' menstrual-period problems and not your problems!
phew!
So read my lips modayas:
RW Clan is putting SF as the "common candidate" to not really win the PE, but to badly and deeply split the Singala vote base. Then they will go for the KILL at the GE and with the Tamil and Muslim votes, they will for the next Cabinet, with a large number of seats in the parliament.
Then they will impeach MR through sheer power they will exercise, especially with foreign help.
Wake up modayas....wake up and smell kavum-badina fragrance!
hak hak hak....
sam,
what appears in LNW in this instance seems correct. but somewhere i read there are 17 issues. where is the 17th one????
there is only one way this has reached LNW. SF has leaked it which is unfortunate.
The blaady toilet in the boat is once again overflowing. I must go now and unclog it with my hands (like how my ancestors always did in Colombo).
But, do continue to bury your head up your arse and not see the real issue at hand (as I described before)......and then you can kiss motherlanka goodbye soon.
Moshe,
If General Fonseka himself leaked any classified information, then that goes against the very grain of integrity he is talking about. I want to give him full benefit of doubt here. Is there any chance that there is a mole/rat in the government who leaks every detail?
Moshe,
There are some suspicious points in LnkaWetNews post.
English
"2. Appointing an officer pending a disciplinary inquiry who performed duties only as a holding formation commander in the final battle as my successor, disregarding my recommendations to appoint Major General G A Chandrasiri as the Commander of the Army who was the then Chief of Staff and an officer with an exemplary service as the Security Forces Commander in Jaffna for over 3 years. This has already led to a deterioration of the high standards I was capable of introducing to the Army, to my bitter disappointment."
Jagath Jayasooriya was NOT a holding formation commander, he was in overall command of Vanni. In fact, his authorization was required to fire MBRLs in the Vanni front. This simply does not add up.
Why did Mahinda Rajapaksha accepted the resignation of General Fonseka so readily?
I tend to think this is because MR would stand a much much better chance against General Fonseka in an election rather than a military coup!
sam,
possible.
1. but given the sensitivity of the issue only MR, lalith, GR would have seen it.
2. leaking it is HIGHLY detrimental to govt. so govt will ensure protection.
3. i can see MONGAL in the document!!!
i don't believe all these are SF's personal grievances. OBVIOUSLY the letter was done b4 SF went to US and SF was asked to add the last 3points by someone.
that bloody fool had not bothered to hide it among the other points!!
4. a mole in the govt would not leak it within 24 hours!!
5. so that means it was leaked by SF's new found friends or SF himself.
6. SF's resignation was first revealed by ravi kallathoni. there seems to be some communication.
7. mongal TOO ran to the kelaniya temple wearing temple attire. how strange!!
why SF went to kelaniya temple SPECIFICALLY where mongal had made a vow????
Sam Perera said...
Deshapaluwa,
You shall realize that MR is not perfect. It is the time for him and his advisers to reflect how we came to this sad position. It is better late than never.
Sam and friends,
I agree with Sam's assessment. There needs to be some introspection as to what went wrong. The Dayan Dayatilleke saga also showed that there was something fundamentally wrong with the Govt's actions. Dayan was responsible for saving Sri Lanka at the UN Human Rights council. Instead he was replaced one month after that event. The President did try to cozy up to him by taking him to Vietnam but Dayan declined an offer to serve as one of his advisors. Its a truism that once you hurt a person's ego that the person will not act rationally.
I think the problem is with the type of people surrounding the President. He needs to have more technocrats and professionals instead of the Mervin types.
This is a very sad situation and a tragedy for Sri Lanka.
that HOMA mongal is all over the thing.
if SF left MR and his mervyn crappy just to be with the likes of RW, mongal, mano, hack-him and other HOMA s, it is much worse for him. sleep with dogs and wake up with ticks.
they will either make him a LTTE arse licker or hack his arse in true homa style!!!
hope he will keep away from this. i may be hoping against hope.
"[TamilNet, Friday, 13 November 2009, 04:40 GMT]
22 Tamil political prisoners in custody within the Colombo Remand Prison (CRP) were attacked Friday morning by Sinhala prisoners, initial reports from Colombo said. Seven of the prisoners were rushed to Colombo hospital with serious injuries.
The attack on prisoners has taken place around 6:30 a.m. Friday.
Further details were not available at the moment."
the next step of barbarians whoever is involved. some MFs want another 1983. MFs time their actions VERY WELL!!!!
Folks,
When somebody has become too big for his britches; britches will snap and his trousers will fall.
How true; Mr. Fonseka is going to learn it in the hardest way. By the time MR, RW, Mangla and Mano Gona finish with him, SF will be nothing but a bat (wavula).
MR did the correct thing by accepting his resignation straight away.
K @ K
Sarath Fonseka's Resignation Letter
http://www.lankaenews.com/English/news.php?id=8644
5. Furthermore I have the honour to request that on retirement Your Excellency would be kind enough to grant me sufficient security which includes trained combat soldiers, a suitable vehicle with sufficient protection (Bullet proof) and escort vehicles for my conveyances due to the fact that I am considered as one of the highest priority targets by the LTTE, which they are yet capable of achieving. Also, I wish to bring to Your Excellency’s kind notice that over 100 men, six escort vehicles and a bullet proof vehicle have been placed at the convenience of the former Commander of the Navy, Admiral WKJ Karannagoda. I presume that such arrangements would be made available to me, considering the threat factor I am facing, which Your Excellency is well aware of.
Patriots,
I want to add a few notes in this sad moment. Regardless of General Fonseka's current stand, he did his service our nation in his best capacity. Not only that he was instrumental in eliminating LTTE terrorists. I am not knowledgeable enough to comment on what triggered this whole deal. Regardless, General Fonseka is an outstanding hero of Sri Lankan history of 2550 years. I will not disparagingly talk about him unless he tries to bring LTTE back. Unfortunately, what General Fonseka didn't get is that our motherland is much bigger than Mahinda Rajapakse.
Our warriors sacrificed their limbs and lives to defend our motherland, not to defend Mahinda Rajapakse. Mahinda Rajapakse is the current personification of revival of Sri Lankan nationalism. It was under the leadership of Mahinda Rajapakse that we restored the backbone of our nation back to the time of Gamini Abhaya. Under Mahinda Rajapakse's leadership, we started walking again with our heads straight knowing that we have the grit, courage, and skills to stand up against terrorists and unwelcome invaders once again. That is what all the unwelcome western powers doesn't like and want to replace with a white master worshiper Ranil to make us a spineless nation.
I sincerely hope that General Fonseka will not associate top scum of Sri Lanka (Jaathiye Paahara Ballo). Indeed, these are the very same top scum who did their best to ridicule General Fonseka. Negativity of these top scum far out weighs the positivity General Fonseka can bring in. Therefore, I will not hesitate to exercise my birth right of voting to defeat anybody associating top scum of Sri Lanka
Well, Well, Thanks B#1 for that post.
Most of Mr. Fonseka’s grievances are personal nature and he thinks; he was instrumental and he is the architect to destroy LTTE successfully. Unfortunately GR also thinks the same way. MY imagination tells me GR is more responsible for side lining the general so quickly and so heartlessly than MR.
The military victory over LTTE is a pure team effort. It is not for any single member to lose his mind with euphoria. MR, GR, SF, all other generals, all other brigadiers, and all other military personal played their part to perfection. Even BR, Foreign Ministry and diplomats played their role well enough.
All that leads me into one conclusion; SF and GR both got blinded by the victory and lost their respective heads miserable enough to put the country back into chaos.
I would conclude the post by saying that SF’s personal grievances are not an excuse to join with traitors and also that GR seems to be the architect of this latest downfall of SL patriotic club.
As a nation, we are not good enough to enjoy the fruits of freedom, success and prosperity because our wisdom of understanding each other is still 2650 years old.
K @ K
Everyone,
It is truly a disturbing moment at present..But there is something peculiar with SF's behaviour...We have to wait and see if he agrees to Ranil's conditions (that's if he is running of course)..SF is doing them a favour not the other way around,,He should be the one putting conditions..
But all the Ranil Ponz and eezhamish donkey supporters shouldnt be hasty to celebrate,,Would any any human being (Specially one as strong headed as SF), give up the excecutive presidency after winning it? Like Abdul Rasul (From some litte muslim party, ran for prez once), said in an interview (this was the time when CBK/GL wanted to bring in two tamil and muslim vice president)
'Onna kohomahari widiyakin mama up-janadipathi wela indiddi, Janadipathita saneepa nethi wela mata diwrum dunna wuna kiyamuko..ehtakota eya apahu awama mama mek ath ariy kiyala hithanawada..mona pissuda..Mang okkoma hirakaranawa"
Ado Bhairav,
F *** off with your F******g pulligal. (LOL)
According to the recent developments pointed out by the SF in his resignations letter, I think he made the best decision resigning from his post.
I salute you Sir!
But if he join with the traitors to contest PE, that would be a big mistake..
Diyasena also gone off his rocker, no wonder when modern Diyasena ( GR) acting like Brutus!
K @ K
KK,
My rocker i perfectly sound..Just wanted to emphasise that SF was not an obedient underling under MR..Then how will he be an obedient underling under RW (especially if he holds excecutive power)
SF's resignation letter seems to be written by RW (the mentioning of history etc.) and of course the last 3 grievances were Mongal's input..
Deshapaluwa said ...
දේශපාලුවා said...
This doesn't this is just an analysis of what would happen.
Yes, he is hypothetically speaking. That does not mean he knows what SF is going to do.
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Blogger දේශපාලුවා said...
Ha Ha, I'm good
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දේශපාලුවා
Before you went one wrote your analysis about this in Mahen's blog, I have been discussing this continuously with SK and Hemantha. I stopped because I didn't want to offend other blogger. I think there were lot of other bloggers here who had the same thoughts but stopped because many thought this would lead to a dog fight.
Your analysis has been good, but quite a few of us had come to the same conclusion some time ago. Even in the previous blog I have been commenting on this. Any way keep up the good work.
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Having said that, one thing that bothers me is what is behind all of this. Most of us are 90% confident that he is not going to win PE.
So, what is the whole logic behind him entering politics? Maybe what he is really doing is not trying to win the election, but to make both UNP and UPA become patriotic parties.
Or be in the opposition and help MR govern better. Which ever way, this is not going to be a bad thing for SL.
It is bit illogical to accept that he is been taken for a ride by idiot like RW. If he goes for politics, he is going with the knowledge that it is a trap, so he will be well prepared. So most probably what would happen is he would end up cleaning UNP up.
But having said that, he still can retire, because the stuff he had been doing lately is pretty much erratic behaviour and not the General SF we knew, who was very decisive.
Two weeks to Nov 27, just looking back over my shoulder and remembering the fun we had last year November with the peelamists .... counting the days to Nov 27... hah haaa WAIT AND SEE strategy .....feel like crazy now without the peelamists for the bite...
Did a man write SF's resignation letter or a women write it? The first part of the resignation letter is good. But the annexation part is embarrassing to even read (I mean the annexation part). If VP was read that he would be laughing in his grave.
Hopefully this resignation letter is a fake one.
Rebel,
Reliable source from vanni said that VP is still alive and hiding in jungle. (the source is Muttal Bhairav)
Who would take Gen.Fonseka's palce?
I mean in the JOC.
B#1, Ohhhh man, can you guys tell me the exact location he is hiding now ?(at least to locate him through Google Map)
Cause, GR and MR asked me to direct the Romeo and Juliet drama in the modern context and I chose VP as Juliet (what a cuti ...isn't it) and SF as Romeo.
Now I can't find neither of them to start the practice ....
I can understand why VP is missing since he did not want to wear the panties/ladies dresses donated by Mongal/RW and the gang (saying that he does not like the color of it)... But why SF ... ? I guess he doesn't like the part in the drama where Romeo is being killed by himself (using his own sword)
Do you guys think a remarkable man like SF would agree to do something
silly like that .. well I am not sure
By the way the drams will be on stage from 27th November. Got to run .. hey kitti kitti ... where are you my cuti....
sam & casc,
mates, it is true that there are bad ppl around MR. also MR did many blunders with SF.
like john kotelawala said, the arselickers are the same, only the arses that have changed.
but even without that SF would have resigned.
1. at least 2 grievances relate to GR.
2. at least 2 grievances relate to JJ
3. at least 3 grievances relate to HIM and his wife's seva vanitha work.
there is nothing wrong with GR & JJ. and GR is his senior. he need not be "BOLD" to make that observation.
MR should appoint General Chandrasiri as CDS now..
1. At least one of SF's so called gripes addressed
2. A capable man becomes CDS..
BTW JJ is not a lackey by anyway, he did a good job as commander of the vanni..
Sam Perera said...
Patriots,
I sincerely hope that General Fonseka will not associate top scum of Sri Lanka (Jaathiye Paahara Ballo). Indeed, these are the very same top scum who did their best to ridicule General Fonseka. Negativity of these top scum far out weighs the positivity General Fonseka can bring in. Therefore, I will not hesitate to exercise my birth right of voting to defeat anybody associating top scum of Sri Lanka
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Sam,
Initially I was against SF move towards politics. But when you think about it, even if he associate with Jathiye Pahara Ballo, it is not a bad thing. If he runs for the presidency as a common candidate, he will end up taking over UNP, or he will change it in a such a way that it would no longer be a suddhanta puka dena party.
Our biggest threat right now is the enemy within. Therefore by changing the make up of the UNP we are really making SL united.
Therefore in away I look at this as a positive development for SL. Hopefully SF would succeed in doing that. Converting UNP in to a bit more patriotic, nonsense party would be good for all of us.
Therefore all the best and all the luck for SF.
Enough of SF craps... a question to DW http://www.asiantribune.com/news/2009/11/13/will-pottu-amman-show-martyrs-day
Can this be a possibility ? Nothing is impossible sometimes right .. ?
MR accepts SFs resignation
http://www.sundaytimes.lk/cms/article10.php?id=4481
Diyasena, Thanks for the link.
Though you have made a good point that "MR should appoint General Chandrasiri as CDS", i do not think MR go for that since Chandrasiri become a good friend of SF.
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Thusitha,
SF issue from a differnt view. Nice one mate. SF is the man if he can turn the traitors as patriots. :)
B#1,
Too true mate, MR will probably appoint Vasantha K and further antagonize SF...(Or maybe he will leave the post open like the Consitutional council)..
However if Fonny makes the run for presidency Mr should give him the same VVIP protecetion that he himself gets..And the ggovernment should run ads repeating Ravi's Pamankada, Mangala's Salvation army and Ranil's thoppigala stories..This will force SF to distance himself from them somewhat..
And about asking help from Indians(to defeat a possible coup)?its the first time i have herd about it?or has it come up earlier?\
and isn't it just amazing that not many ppl knew abt it?
if ranil knew abt it he will surely have make a huge deal abt it, no?
agree?
Patriots,
Now is the time for us to identify the traitors within.
For months there weremany political terrorists that mocked us, called us terrorists and even aaccused us of being Tigers for saying the very same things listed by Gen. Fonseka in his resignation letter. Onyl difference is we said it at the time and Gen. Fonsek has losted collection in one letter.
Patriots,
Let's do away with any divisions and suspicions that may have lingered amongst us for past three months. Let's unite to relaise the full glory our mother land has to offer.
Patriots,
Let's all say YES WE CAN.
Prepare for CHANGE/
I wonder if gosl could prove if pottu had departed this world or escaped?
Moshe,
Sadly, the letter seems to be the culmination of some petty incidents. Its the rants of a man who perceives himself as being discarded and humiliated after the job was done.
In Sri Lanka's political culture, people curry favour and gravitate to those in power. When people are out of power they are humiliated or ignored at best. He went from a position commanding 200,000 men to commanding no one. It seems his former subordinates ignored him, which is not uncharacteristic in his situation.
General Sinha Ranatunga says in his autobiography that he reccomended Gen Kobekaduwa as Army Commander but that President Premadasa overrode him. He also says that after some altercations with the President he ended up as the UK High Commissioner. That was probably a prudent move on Premadasa's part. Of course he was a more pliable character. Ultimately its the President perogative as to who he appoints as Army commander.
This entire episode shows a lack of political finesse on the part of the Government.
November 13, 2009 5:35 PM
kevin said...
I wonder if gosl could prove if pottu had departed this world or escaped?
Kevin,
The editor of the Asian Tribune is K T Rajasingham. He is a closet eelamist. This is one of his fantasies.
CASC said...
This entire episode shows a lack of political finesse on the part of the Government.
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Not really. This is what happens every where in the world. If some one becomes too big for their boots the standard practice is to kick them out. In that respect, MR hasn't done anything special. MR needs to protect leadership and therefore SF needs to go.
War displaced living in ‘appaling conditions’
Gen. Fonseka said the plight of the war displaced, nearly 1.5 lakh Tamil civilians currently housed in Government run camps in the north, is of great concern to him as they continue to live in `appalling conditions’ due to lack of proper Government planning.
“..today many of them are continuing to live in appalling conditions due to the lack of proper planning on the part of the government and the IDPs who have friends and relatives elsewhere in the country must be given the choice to live with them until proper demining has been done in their areas.
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Can't believe SF said this.
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“Your Excellency’s government has yet to win the peace in spite of the fact that the Army under my leadership won the war. There is no clear policy to win the hearts and minds of the Tamil people, which will surely ruin the victory, attained paving the way for yet another uprising in the future”, the letter says
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Haha. What a joke. SF believe he can bring peace to the country. He would need few years in the opposition before he learn how to speak. He will need to understand how to reach consensus and how to negotiate. Then only he can think of bringing peace to the country. He needs to understand no one will jump to his command and would do thing his way.
Welcome to Democracy General.
Gen. Fonseka will not accept any military ranks bestowed after resignation. MR tries to belittle Gen. by offering Marshall title
Folloow us twitter.com/fonseka2010
Blogger CASC said...
Sam Perera said...
Deshapaluwa,
You shall realize that MR is not perfect. It is the time for him and his advisers to reflect how we came to this sad position. It is better late than never.
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I have said numerouse times what I hold great, is the future of my country and nation, not anyone of us, including me Fonseka or Rajapaksha.
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Rajapaksha is not Perfect, I never said that , he has not attained enlightenment.
But his is the least bad or least evil among the lot.
That is why we should support him.
Sam
Please read my reply Keshara-කේශර
One can wonder why Peter recently as 6 weeks ago put the image of "Pottu" on his profile id and keep that way until now.
And also Peter hinted on few occasions, i would say way back in June, that #1 is no more but #2 is alive.
I have the feeling now that "Pottu" is alive and well. It should scare all the war-criminals shit out of their pants since Pottu can keep the chain-moving against any kind of blitz thrown at him.
The history will repeat in one form or other.
One more thought about the dishonest Fonseka.
You guys might remember the UNP Ranil gang, Tissa A etal and Mangala has been telling that SF is their candidate even before the war was over.
I will try to find the newspaper-web rocord of that.
In his letter Fonseka laments that he was wrongfully under the cloud or suspicion for trying to take the power.
What does this tell us.
He was really trying to take power. This plot didnt hatch overnight, Fonseka had to have talked to Ranil-Mangy gang for a long time, may be even before the war ended as Mangy and gang boasted.
The governmnet should get concerned if the army commander is seacrtly talking to opposition leader who opposes governmnets all moves.
And now SF want to run for president.
" I was falesly accused of trying to get the power, but now I want power" is what fonseka is saying.
by crook or by hook.
His actions proves he is guilty of the charges he mention in his letter.
Pretty soon he will have to answer these questions infront of media.
Even before entering into politics Fonseka has proven he is a political mess. Its going to be entertaining to watch how he humiliates himself and ashamehimself publicly.
At the the day, I don't question President MR's or General SF's patriotism. They will do what is right for the country. However, I do hope that the Government will not persecute his relatives (Lankatruth has a list of his relatives in the forces who have been transferred) or people who were perceived as being close to him. I do wish the Mahanayaka Theras could have intervened and brought about a reconciliation. It is probably too late for that now. The President seems to be doing the right thing by keeping a low profile and by having his ministers control their tongues.
This plot dindt hatch overnight.
It started even before the war ended.
SF as common candidate was floated around way back.
The allegation of a military coup are true.
You cant conduct a coup with one man, you need many people in key places.
Even now they can be saboteurs. What else can they be.
Government should root out all of them
For the stability of this country.
Deshapaluwa,
It is a fantasy to think that anyone can take power illegally in Sri Lanka whether it is the government (unconstitutionally) or an individual. Depite 30 years of war the state has survived. We are not Pakistan or Bangladesh. 25,000 soldiers died to save the country from terrorists and not to prop up some individual. I don't think any military officer in Sri Lanka will follow an illegal order to stage a coup. To say that someone is plotting a coup is a scare mongering tactic to discredit an individual. There is no basis for a coup in our post independent historical experience or cultural context.
There was a British professor who wrote a book on this topic concerning Sri Lanka long before the eelam wars started. Its an interesting book :Coup Theories and Officer's Motives" Horowitz.
Deshapaluwa,
You are making very serious allegations that a coup was planned. I consider a coup to overthrow the democratically elected government of Sri Lanka is a crime against the people of Sri Lanka. However, when allegations reaches that level, we need to support them with solid evidence. It is our responsibility to provide that evidence. Can you please reveal those evidence for everybody's enlightenment?
Blogger CASC said...
Deshapaluwa,
To say that someone is plotting a coup is a scare mongering tactic to discredit an individual.
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What do you call the process, a countries army commander secretly calling or meeting opposition leaders, who oppose that governments and even the army commanders every move.
SF as common candidate was revealed even before that war ended. (might be even January 2009)
Did that happen spontaneously?
How come Sarath Fonsekas resignation letter even the Top secret part end up in the UNP-LTTE alliance web site Lankanewsweb? Its top secret you know.
The government never released the news about a coup.
1. Various agencies misleading Your Excellency by stating a possible coup immediately after the victory over the LTTE which obviously led to a change of command in spite of my request to be in command.
හොරාට කලින් කෙහෙල් කැන වැට පනී
Remember my friend
What matters most is our country and nation, not any individual
Blogger Sam Perera said...
Can you please reveal those evidence for everybody's enlightenment?
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SF's resignation letter, and his intention of becoming president.
dear paluwa,
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You cant conduct a coup with one man
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- Gen. SF always gave Mahinda credit ahead of any other in public interviews.
- Meanwhile, some idiot (proabably Mervin) spreads a rumor Gen. SF is attempting coup de et.
- Mahinda runs to Indian HC, setup war room with Indians to attack SL forces to protect himself.
THERE WAS NEVER A FucKING coup! only a rumor
but your Mahinda disgraced himself by siding with Indians and attack SL forces.
The problem why your Mahinda cannot trust anyone is he has given enough LANU to all sundry. he is now defensive thinking those whom he conned now trying to trip him hiding every corner. he is shadow boxing.
Patriorts,
Already the Rajapksa family has slashed Gen. Fonseka's security.
http://www.lankatruth.com/sin/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=4497
The People's Fonseka2010 campagin can assure you that the best military men are protecting our General.
Even if the political terrorists want to do somthing they can't.
Blogger Panhinda - பன்ஃகின்ட said...
dear paluwa,
Meanwhile, some idiot (proabably Mervin) spreads a rumor Gen. SF is attempting coup de et.
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Show me one sentence from a credible source, one government minister or MP indicating directly or indirectly of a coup.
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THERE WAS NEVER A FucKING coup! only a rumor
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So all this happened over night.
බලප0 මගෙ කොන්ඩෙ පිටිපස්ස දිහා, බැදල නැහැ
Deshapaluwa,
"SF's resignation letter, and his intention of becoming president."
I am unable to agree with you that this is the evidence of a military coup. Indeed, these acts are quite contrary to what you say. Resigning from CDS post is an indication that he cuts his ties with the military. His intention to become the president, even though not expressed by him yet, it appears to be through democratic means (unlikely that I will vote for his for aforementioned reasons). I firmly believe that we need some solid evidence, which I don't see here, to back up your serious allegations.
fonseka mahattayo thamange asweeme lipiya prasidda kirimata taram bala thanhawa iwawaha giyada.
ada obatuma general wune mahinda nisa.kotinma kiyatot obatumage wasanawa pedune mahinda nisa.
hitanna epa army witarai yudde kale kiyala.obatuma thaniwama lakunu daganna hadanawa.air-foce,navy,police netnam tama ape kollo merenawa.
obatumage asweeme lipiya kiyawaddi hittene nikan duk genewili lipiyak wage.
balaya nisa pahat weda karanna epa.
paluwa,
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Show me one sentence from a credible source, one government minister or MP indicating directly or indirectly of a coup.
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Someone in Mahinda inner ring (pick anyone i dont care! all are crooks anyway) gives Mahida the message.
President Mahinda Rajapaksa sought a meeting with India's High Commissioner Alok Prasad on Thursday (October 15) evening. There were fears of an attempt that night, to destabilise the democratic system through illegal means. It was in short, the fear of a mutiny in the Forces engineered by those disgruntled with the Government. That prompted him to inquire about help from India. Prasad, who has since concluded his term and left Colombo, contacted his Government in New Delhi.
...It was understandable to a point that the President got worried about the events that made him want to alert India last week, but the events surrounding the speculation as to whether Gen. Fonseka would enter politics were greatly over-blown.
http://www.sundaytimes.lk/091025/Columns/political.html
Fonseka 2010,
Let me be upfront here. I will not vote for anybody representing the side of top scum (Jaathiya Paahara Ballo). However, if something bad happens, I will never forget or forgive slashing security of General Fonseka. I sincerely hope that General Fonseka do not get overconfident and reckless like Maj. General Janaka Perera.
Blogger Sam Perera said...
I am unable to agree with you that this is the evidence of a military coup.
His intention to become the president, even though not expressed by him yet, it appears to be through democratic means
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My very point, if he there was no coup, he should retrie join his childern in US and take membership of Torrey pines golf course as Konappu said.
His intention of becomming president is one evidence of a coup.
He is the one (and the first) to officialy say there was a suspicion about a coup.
what we call in sinhala
හොරාට කලින් කෙහෙල් කැන වැට පනී
For the rest of the evidence
read my answer to CASC
As I mentioned before we should stop carrying MR, GR and SF on our heads for winning the war.
Actually, who/what won us the war?
I'd say the ideology that the LTTE should be defeated militarily won us the war.
Only a handful of people carried on this ideology initially. Then it became main stream. And that facilitated MR, GR, SF et.at. to win the war.
So, what should we do now?
We should carry on with the ideology for the next phase.
What's the next phase?
Immunize Sri Lanka against separatism (aka Eelam).
Then next generation of politicians (if not current) will pick up the idea and implement it.
So, how do we immunize Sri Lanka?
(say it loud)
Colonization!
Blogger Panhinda - பன்ஃகின்ட said...
President Mahinda Rajapaksa sought a meeting with India's High Commissioner Alok Prasad on Thursday (October 15) evening
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Proves my point, SF had a secret meeting with Ranil just a few days after.
Panhida man.........
why am I sensing desperation and panic from you?
Deshapaluwa,
What is wrong in General Fonseka running for presidency? He has equal rights, just like anybody else in Sri Lanka, to compete for the presidency. Can you please explain me why you think he should not do it if he likes to do so?
Tell us why these news stories made it to frontpage on DailyNews for three days even though many Sri Lankans have not heard of that country.
29 June 2009
World leaders denounce ousting of Honduran President
30 June 2009
People mobilize against Coup in Honduras
01 July 2009
Honduran coup widely condemned
And at same time Keheliya Rambukwella halved Gen. Fonseka's proposed increase in military.
And then Gen. Fonseka was given just two weeks to pack his stuff and leave office.
Are you saying the Rajapaksa brothers did not become paranoid about keeping power and also simply discarded the great General at the same time puting country's security at great risk by appointing JJ who was not at all qualified for the job of Army Commander but just a person who is a Yes Man for the brothers?
buddy paluwa,
there were tamils who never accept their own dictator do anything wrong.
it looks like sinhalese are no better! shame on you.
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Tell me where I said our leaders cannot be wrong.
To the contrary, I have repeatedly said MR is not perfect he has not attained enlightenment, what we should care of is about our country and nation.
You cant stick that label on me buddy.
Read my answer to CASC at
November 13, 2009 8:17 PM
Blogger Sam Perera said...
Deshapaluwa,
What is wrong in General Fonseka running for presidency? He has equal rights, just like anybody else in Sri Lanka, to compete for the presidency. Can you please explain me why you think he should not do it if he likes to do so?
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Sure he should run with the nationalistic forces. not with Jathiye pahara ballo.
Thanks Sam
Man looks like I hit the bulls eye.
Panhindha and Fonsesak2010 are panicking and going nuts.
Deshapaluwa,
I agree that he should not be with top scum. So far, I did not see any explicit reason from General Fonseka why he is not with MR. However, he has every right to select what ever the side he chooses. Now, getting my vote if he is on the side of top scum is extremely unlikely.
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