Friday, April 25, 2008

24 Killed in Piliyandala Bus Bomb- UPDATED

A civilian passenger bus belonging to the Kesbewa Peoplized Transportation Board bearing number 63-4170 plying between Piliyandala and Kahapola that commenced journey at the Piliyandala Town bus stand was rocked by an explosion from inside the bus around 6.50pm this evening. 24 civilians including 17 males and 7 females have died in the blast so far.

The total injured in the blast currently stand at 63. 47 are male, 16 are female. Among the civilians killed are a 10 year-old male child and a Buddhist Monk. 12 Seriously wounded civilians are undergoing emergency surgery at the moment. 3 of them critically injured in the head are at the Colombo NH ICU.

The bus was making a left turn from the depot onto the road when the blast took place. The explosive device had been planted on the middle right hand side of the bus.

117 comments:

Peter said...

If this was the handy work of the LTTE, as the gov alleges:

1. SLA would have known about the plan via "intercepted radio communication".

2. MI would have warned DefeneNet and the likes at least a day earlier.

3. SLAF would have destroyed the "parcel bombers training base".

LTTE has lost at least 3200 cadres in 2008 alone. Combined with the thousands lost during the "liberation" of the east, LTTE would be short of manpower to guard its leaders let alone send some to the south. Never-mind the fact the all LTTE cadres, with the exception of Pirapakaran and Pottuamman, are "abducted children" who would simply "runaway" at the first given opportunity.

Peter said...

Quote of the day;

"We can't take responsibility for what's happening in areas not in our control,"

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/7357428.stm

Sam Perera said...

peter the idiot,

1)Are there any Sinhalese living in the LTTE controlled area or that matter is ther eany open and free movement withing Vanni?

2)Is the population in Vanni can not engage in pro-creative activities such that no new children can be born? If that is the case LTTE most certainly should run out of cadre by now.

3)Is you brain smaller than a pea?

CASC said...

Let's be clear -- Tamil Tigers are the terrorists in Sri Lanka, National Post,Canada

thiru said...

sam perera you think tamils can move freely around GOSL areas, haha good joke man. try being tamil for a day and you'll see the effects of how you are treated in colombo. You will end up in a jail and tortured.

hemantha said...

Daily Mirror Defence Column.

hemantha said...

"sam perera you think tamils can move freely around GOSL areas, haha good joke man. try being tamil for a day and you'll see the effects of how you are treated in colombo. You will end up in a jail and tortured."

What is the logic in this comment? If Sam Perera becomes a Tamil for a day he will end up in jail being tortured. That means if you choose a Tamil person randomly and watch him, within one day he should end up in jail and will be tortured. That means all the Tamils living in Sri Lanka are being tortured at least once a day like a ritual. Absurd logic. I wish we can do that for LTTErs.

This is the problem with LTTE sympethisers now days. They utter many thousand words. But no logic behind those. LTTE killed the cream of the Tamils. Now we are left with stupid terrorist sympathizers ("hun tsu's disciple" is an exception. He is a smart sympathizer).

Sam Perera said...

thiru,

"Sam perera you think tamils can move freely around GOSL areas, haha good joke man. try being tamil for a day and you'll see the effects of how you are treated in colombo. You will end up in a jail and tortured."

Do you have a doctorate in moronics? Doofus, there are more Tamils living in the South than the North these days. If Tamils choose to live in south with all the noted torture, there must be something worse happening in Vanni? Moron, take these two cents to buy a few clues before you open your mouth.

Sun Tzu's disciple said...

Hemantha,

I am happy to be bracketed with IIGEP/Alan Rock/Louise Arbour/SLMM/HRC/UN/AI/ICRC/etc etc.

Throwing around words like ' stupid' 'moron' ' idiot' etc reflect on the users level than on your target.Mistaking abuse for sound argument is a weak mans forte.

This bombing is tragic.Its a war crime.

thiru said...

hemantha and sam perera, why do you think there are more tamils in the south today? it's because of your GOSL's indiscriminate shelling, aerial bombardment and food and medicine blockade. You claim tamils can live peaceful, then why did the gosl kick out tamils from colombo in december back to vuvuniya?

Puran Appu said...

My sympathies to those who were killed and injured in this horrific premeditated attack on civilians.

Going back to previous threads, DN or DW might want to enlighten me on this:

If the SLA was aware of an impending Tiger attack, wouldn't it have been wiser to go in to an ultra defensive mode and train all available guns at them and wait for the attack. Given well-entrenched defenders generally have an advantage; we could have decimated the Tigers when the real attack came. Afterwards we could have called in the Air Force to attack the fleeing Tigers and their positions (i.e. if the Army is cautious about sharing intelligence with other arms of the tri forces) and pursued the Tigers without too much trouble. This whole story about the preemptive strike doesn't sound right to me. May be someone could explain why this was the better strategy.

The other puzzling aspect is, why wasn't the Air Force called in as soon as the fighting started and the Army decided to move southward. It appears as if the call went in much later. Is the SLA not willing to share the glory with the others? Are personal differences and egos beginning to hinder our fight against terrorism? Hopefully the government can provide the necessary and correct leadership in these important matters.

Finally, I have noticed that there is a tendency to label as traitors those who point out deficiencies in the strategies adopted by the government and the armed forces. While we should acknowledge whole-heartedly the positive contributions and sacrifices made by all Sri Lankans in this fight against terrorism, we should not let people escape scot-free for sheer incompetence.

Attack is the Best Defence said...

DW pls take some action against these terrorists here..
this seems getting oput of control.

Do u like ur blog to be a "nadagam maduwa" for the brianwashed lunetics....

Sam Perera said...

thiru,

Please take your spin elsewhere. You have demonstrated amply now to show you LTTE stooge side.

Kas said...

Get a life you pro-LTTE *****ds!!

Just a cracker here and there is not going to stop us from going where we are going. This is our country and nobody is going to mess around with it..... We will loose a few lives, maybe my life as well but I'm willing for that sacrifice for a better cause for the future of my motherland.

hemantha said...

Few days back a person called Beria (may be David blacker) was complaining that we were being unprofessional. One reason, we were calling names for terrorists. Eg. Carcass maggots. It made me wonder. Why are we doing that? The answer is simple. We don’t respect them. Actually we hate them. This is why we hate them.

Kahapola is a remote area in the neighborhood of Bolgoda Lake. Even though it is not that far from Colombo facilities are no better than in a remote village. Especially the transportation. In the Kahapola route up to Madapatha bus service is better. But beyond that point people has to mostly depend on CTB for their day today transportations. Sometimes people have to wait more than an hour to take a bus. Especially when a one bus is out of order. (Earlier, somebody was complaining “why people do get in to a packed bus without waiting for the next one”. Very insensitive comment. The next bus may come after one and half hours.)

The backbone of the economy is the earnings of the people working in the surrounding cities including Colombo. They have to wake up early. Otherwise they would miss the early bus and be late for the work. Because of the transport time they leave early and come home late. By Friday evening, after five days of hard work they are tired looking men and women. After Fridays work they take one bus to Piliyandala. Then they go to the market and buy some vegetables for next few days and some fruit or sweet for their kids. After this ritual they have to wait in a queue for the last part of their voyage. Even though very tired, being cheered up due to the sense of coming weekend they exchange pleasantries with many other known faces while waiting for the bus. 150 persons for a bus is a norm at this time. Many have to keep standing packed between the seats. People who are seated help those who do not have that privilege by taking their parcels and keeping them on their laps. Some parcels are placed under the seats.

These are the innocent men and women the terrorists intentionally targeted to kill with the full consent of their leaders. This is the reason why I hate them so much. There won’t be any civility between the terrorists (or terra sympathizers) and myself.

thiru said...

attack is the best defence, this method of yours is the true singhalese way-oppress tamils voices, that's how the war started in the first place!

thiru said...

Sam perera, answer the question why did your government displace the 1000 tamils from lodges in colombo in december? Since your government is so pure and sincere to tamils why did they do that? Can you answer that?

Eranda said...

DefenceWire,

Give them a white van ride. No katha no sina ;). Delete all their comments without any exception. This cry babies destroyed the standards of the DefenceNet blog and they trying to do the same thing here. Please do not let that happen in this blog.

Folks who read DefenceNet for a long time know what I mean.

thiru said...

attack is the best defence, if defencewire was to kick out terrorist supporters from this blog it would be all the GOSL supporters such as yourself-State terrorism!

Eranda said...

Sam Perera,

Ignore them man. You know what happened to DefenceNet.

thiru said...

look at eranda's comments, glorifying white abductions and you claim that we are the terrorists?

Sun Tzu's disciple said...

Hemantha,

fully agreed that civilians should never ever be targeted.The perpetrators if caught should be sent to the Hague.In the same way GoSL-supporters must also force GoSL to stop executing Tamils in cold blood(thousands after CFA, if UN/SLMM/AI/HRC to be believed).
The GoSL cannot claim moral superiority as long as it does the same crime.

Guns said...

Some one asked
"why do you think there are more tamils in the south today? it's because of your GOSL's indiscriminate shelling, aerial bombardment and food and medicine blockade. "

now i have a question
why do you think GOSL is Doing all that?

Upul said...

The GOSL is fully responsible for planting a parcel bomb on its own bus to frame LTTE. GOSL time to time to wants to remind sinhala public why its fighting the LTTE, so when morale low etc, they do these stunts against their own civilians. Life of Sinhalese is soo cheap that anything happens.

chamal said...

Thiru,

Oppressing voices and censoring bull**** are two different things.

Any further details on the bomb blast anyone? From Defencewire's description, looks like the bomb was planted on the bus before it started the journey. Thing is, driver & conductor are supposed to inspect the bus and make sure it's safe before starting, but looks like that hasn't happened here.

Rover said...

Vultures have landed here as well (Peter and Thiru). If you note carefully, these guys turn up in hoards as soon as civilians are killed anywhere (either Tamil or Sinhalese). Because these are terrorists who depend on the fear caused to gain a political goal. Hope the EU commission for prevention of terrorism through the internet is taking note. If these terrorists are in Sri Lanka, SLDF will take good care of them eventually.

Rover said...

oh, Upul too.

Upul said...

I was insulted you missed me :p

Rover said...

For the terrorists, the killing of civilians is a good time to get together and celebrate. And they make sure that that their political goal is also highlighted. This is done overtly and covertly. This is why they make sure to identify themselves as LTTE supporters.

Upul said...
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Upul said...

LTTE supporters don't support killing of civilians and fully condemn such acts. Who would benefit from an attack on sinhala civillians ?

Definitely the Rajapakse government no body else.

Eranda said...

DefenceWire,

Daily mirror reports,

"The jets bombed two heavy gun positions located about 10 Km to 12 Km south of the LTTE FDL. After observing that one of the guns was still operating, the pilots returned to the base re-armed the aircraft and carried out a devastating attack significantly damaging the artillery gun."

"Latest intelligence reports had revealed that the LTTE announced 84 names killed in the battle so far while 71 of them were now at Kilinochchi. Sixteen of them had been identified as leading LTTE leaders."

Is there any truth to this or should we take them with pinch of salt?

Note: this is only direct to DefenceWire to answer.

Rover said...

"why do you think there are more tamils in the south today? it's because of your GOSL's indiscriminate shelling, aerial bombardment and food and medicine blockade. You claim tamils can live peaceful, then why did the gosl kick out tamils from colombo in december back to vuvuniya?"

Absolutely not true, a majority of Tamils have been living in other parts of Sri Lanka even before the conflict started. For example, take the district of Colombo, get the population census reports and see for yourself.

Rover said...
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sensoryaphid_911 said...

what some of this terrorist advocates living abroad don't know is that there are almost as many tamil civilians in colombo as there are sinhalese... maybe more!I spent most of my life in Colombo, went to school and made plenty of friends, both sinhalese and tamil. The tamils with permanent residences have almost nothing to worry about, but for those who are temporarily visiting from sovereign areas that have been forcibly occupied by a terrorist organisation, theres obviously the risk of terrorist infiltrators. the police can't just wait around for more suicide bombings to happen... they have to be proactive! If that means the forcible eviction of a few civilians, it must be so.If there was no threat of civilian suicide bombers , this sort of occurance will not take place.

In the case of aerial bombings, its obvious that the airforce doesn't target civilians. These collateral damage are very difficult to avoid. Be glad that it isn't the US military your fighting! They will pay no heed to civilian casualties and just carpet bomb the whole of vanni! The SL airforce can do the same to an extent but the last thing they want is to kill civilians! There are times where misinformation can be fed to those in charge.

what i've seen from most of the terrorist supporters are gross exaggerations from the ground reality.

sensoryaphid_911 said...

pardon the grammatical errors, can't be helped when typing pretty fast.

Rover said...

"LTTE supporters don't support killing of civilians and fully condemn such acts. Who would benefit from an attack on sinhala civillians ?

Definitely the Rajapakse government no body else."

This is exactly what I meant when I said "this is done overtly and covertly". In this instance, the support for the LTTE is covert.

Rover said...

To explain my point further, once the damage is done, and the goal of the terrorists is achieved (terrorising civilians), the LTTE goes into a damage control mode. This is done by accusing the gov. of killing the civilians. A well known ploy in propaganda (black propaganda).

Rover said...

"LTTE supporters don't support killing of civilians and fully condemn such acts."

Final point. Upul pretty much admits that he/she is an LTTE supporter. But the above statement doesn't really say that the LTTE doesn't kill civilians. It only says, LTTE supporters don't support killing civilians. Readers, please read between the lines, and it is pretty much apparent what is going on.

hemantha said...

"In the same way GoSL-supporters must also force GoSL to stop executing Tamils in cold blood"

If I find an LTTE terrorist I hope I will have enough courage to remove him from this world. Any non-LTTE Tamil as a human being is a brother to me. But if he is a both Tamil and a terrorist do I have any other option. Of course not. Because, he may explode a bomb in a bus on the very next day.

The government is in the same situation. A terrorist is a terrorist. Tamilness in him doesn't make him any pure.

Secondly, the government intentionally killing a terrorist and a terrorist intentionally killing many innocent men and women are two completely different scenarios. The first if the government has no other choice is acceptable. The second is a crime and who commit those should be directed towards the first scenario.

Terrorists all over the world try to mix the two. Hope it won’t work.

Upul said...

rover yes read through and come up with other conspiracy theories like tigers are responsible for world hunger ??

or rise in rice prices ??

Get real.

Upul said...

Even B. Raman admits network of deception to fool sinhala people for so long:

http://lankaguardian.blogspot.com/2008/04/over-confident-sla-again-walks-into.html

chamal said...

"Get real."

That's rich, coming from someone who is 'real'....
Rover's comments are based on facts, unlike the crap that is given in answer to them.

"A terrorist is a terrorist. Tamilness in him doesn't make him any pure"

Yes, fully agreed. Terrorists are pursuing terrorism because their demands cannot be achieved in any other way. So they try to get them by making others feel "if we don't give it to them, we're dead". Giving reasons like 'oppressed ethnic group/religious group' are just crap to cover up their real objectives.

hemantha said...

The Island_editorial.

Peter said...

From time to time the party in power feels the need to kill some "civilians" in order to keep its poltico/military agenda on track.

There are two exclusive characteristics to these attacks.

They exclusively target "poor" people and the explosion is caused by a remote device.

A roadside bomb would have similar chances of killing a Minister's daughter in her S-Class as much as it has of killing a poor cart pusher. However, parcel bomb on a bus will only kill poor folks.

Yesterday's bombing produced emotionally charged photos to ease "human rights" pressure from IC, and remind the Sinhala people what they are fighting against.

Moshe Dyan said...

If any VIP from the MoD is reading this, he should consider retaliation.

Retaliation is not about revenging. It is about linking the cause and the effect together so that terrorists will think twice before attacking civilians again.

The reasons for the LTTE to attack civilians is to put pressure on the govt. to reduce operations in the north. If we fall into this we are finish as terrorists will ONCE AGAIN kill civilians whenever they want some concession from the govt.

It is like beggars. The number of beggars increase not in proportion to poverty, but in proportion to the lucrativeness of beggary.

In east timor there are fewer beggars than in the US as a percentage. The more you give the more they come.

When the LTTE finds that they have more to lose than gain by killing civilians, they will stop.

tikira said...

Prasanne silva to jafna,mmmmmm interesting move

Sun Tzu's disciple said...

Hemantha,

If you feel that GoSL has not been executing civilians then I feel sorry for you.I will prefer to believe the reputed independent agencies which clearly say so.In fact the absolute numbers of civilians executed by GoSL appear higher than that by ltte, even though each human being is priceless to their loved ones and counting numbers is silly if not cruel.
It is like two pigs in a mudhole in Sri Lanka, each one accusing the other of being dirty.

Moshe Dyan said...

tikira,

what's your source?

tikira said...

moshay,
personal but reliable

LKDOOD said...

BBC VIDEO REPORT FROM COLOMBO

LINK

Moshe Dyan said...

If PdS is appointed to jaffna that is JUST FANTASTIC.

if this is true, that means a paradigm shift in the defence top brass. they have admitted to their mistake (for the first time???).

PdS had to resign for suggesting increased SF activity in jaffna.

we need aggressive guys like that. He marvelled with just 40 SF guys in vaharei (???) and heaps of potential in the northern front.

Rover said...

"rover yes read through and come up with other conspiracy theories like tigers are responsible for world hunger ??

or rise in rice prices ??

Get real."

People know who is real and who is not (thanks Chamal), that is why LTTE has been banned in many countries in the world.

"Get real". Now this is called Ad Hominem in propaganda technique - attacking the opponent without attacking the opponents arguments.

Conspiracy theories? Again propaganda of yours, reading your first comment is enough to know who really conspires.

As I always say, LTTE can't achieve its goals even after fighting for 30+ years, as its core concepts are based on lies, deception and terrorism.

Chinthaka Wijesuriya said...
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scorpian said...

"The vacant post(55) would be taken over by 53 Division GOC Brigadier Gunaratne while Brigadier Prasanna Silva, who led the liberation of Mavil Aru and Vakarai is to be appointed GOC 55 Division soon."

Daily mirror

mottapala said...

I see two types of bloggers here.

1. Some tamils who contributes to the destruction tamil nation by supporting LTTE.[in simple terms LTTE boot lickin M**** F****]

Their primary objective in this blog is to wind up the sinhala bloggers and laugh their buts off when they react angrily.

2. Sinhala modayas who who gets wind up and go on writing loads.

I am not impressed. You are wasting your time and get your blood pressure up thus shortening your life span.

Use your brain. Keep cool. Do not respond to these idiots. Cant you see what they are doing?

mottapala said...

DW
By the way I have seen a tremendous improvement in the quality of your blog. Many of my friends actually gave up reading your blog.[here in UK].

Keep it up

Sam Perera said...

thiru,

Do you know who these 1000 people are? if youe knew, were there any LTTE operatives there? Is that all Tamils we ever had in Colombo. Please take your spin back to LNP.

Peter said...

I see a lot of "Bata" slippers

http://ap.google.com/media/ALeqM5hFUNiRcOJhwGIN1adEQ0TZWQl_xw?size=l

May be the bus was carrying "Sinhala Tigers".

thiru said...

sam perera, your logic is baseless and stupid, so to you displacing 1000 tamils is no big deal? and also to others claiming that tamils are living peacefully amongst the singhalese you should be ashamed of yourselves, do you know how many tamils get randomly interrogated on a daily basis in SL, how many tamils get shot on the suspicion that they are tigers, obviously not because you believe that every tamil getting killed are tigers, this is why the only option is two separate states, it is never going to work, eelam is the only option.

chamal said...

Thiru,

Where are you(Where do you live I mean) Alice's wonderland or somewhere? Not in SL, judging by your comments.... You talk like tamils are killed on the roadsides in Colombo. We live in SL mate. We know the actual situation. Please don't try to feed rubbish to us. You can try telling these to some idiot who has not been in the country for 15 years and maybe they'll believe it.

thiru said...

chamal, where do u think i live? you think i live somewhere outside? you think i was educated by a white man? Chamal, don't try to rub your singhalese chauvinism on me and try to tell me the bullshit that singhalese treat tamils equally, have you been to negombo lately? do you know what is happening to tamils living there? maybe you should go there and open up your eyes before you decide to come here and make jugments.

thiru said...

looks like another large offensive by the SLA in manalaaru, any updates?

Defencewire said...
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chamal said...

thiru,

I am not wasting my time and blog space here arguing, and this is my last comment in reply to you. If you are talking about searchings and arrests there is a war going on, and these are not uncommon things. But everybody (who are suspicious) is subject to them, not just tamils. And you think our areas are not checked? Yes they are buddy. Come out of your dreamland before you post your next commend in blind rage.

Defencewire said...

Ok, This is getting on our nerves right now. Stop arguing like a bunch of little girls and focus on what theme is discussed. Your chicken or egg stories and the innocence and the rape BS is not amusing anymore. We have heard all that before and it makes no different if you say it again. If you want to change it, go back to your country or Eelam or whatever and practice what you preach. If this continues, not a single comment will be allowed.

mottapala,
What do you mean people in UK don't read us?

thiru said...

defencewire, you can try to suppress tamils voices but it will just snowball in your face, you delete thiru, dinesh will show up, you delete dinesh, kumar will show up, do you catch the drift. If you are getting annoyed it's because the truth about ur GOSL is getting exposed.

chamal said...

Defencewire/Guys,

Sorry I got a bit carried away with arguing. But it sure is not the 'truth' that annoyed me. Won't happen again. I'm shutting up.

perein said...

DW-
I see the pain mate, but because of one or 2 guys mess around you should not think about closing the comments for general public. Worst come to worst we should find another way to handle the matter.
Ignore the stories about UK audiance giving up the reading of this blog. That's not true at all.

I do know more and more people uses DW blog daily basis and they keep recomending to others.
Keep up the good work, we all waitting to read your posting.

Peter said...

Give "Chamal" a bottle of arrack and a copy of the voters list and he will generate another Black July.

perein said...

Chamal-
Keep the cool bro. I know how painful it cold be. When you see the user name of those who we should avoid, ignore reading them.

chamal said...

perein,

lol.. don't worry mate. As I said I'm keeping my mouth shut about it.

Rover said...

Thinking of starting my own blog, as it is hard to show what terrorism really is, and the fallacies of the LTTE's core concepts without offending too many people (including the administrators). I'll leave the erudite commentating in this blog for people like Mottapala. Good luck in controlling the horde.

Eranda said...

Rover,

Please do that and wish you all the best with reasoning with them. :)

Rover said...

Thanks Eranda. You seee, I don't need to reason with them, once the argument is done effectively, others reading it (people who have the potential to be terrorists, or agencies/govts. involved with supporting terrorists) will reconsider.

Rover said...

If you let Ltters come into a blog and spew untruth, when a heinous crime has been committed against civilians, and then leave unscathed having finished achieving their objectives, that is even more damaging to the civilians of the country (and also denigrative to the victim who lost life). An unknown visitor reading the blog could very well come into the conclusion that actually what these guys are telling is true. The repetition (especially when unchallenged) makes people believe that what is being said is true. In propaganda terminology it is known as argumentum ad nauseam.

Finally, even when we were the victims, LTTE gets an advantage out of this. Ok, thats it.

Eranda said...

Rover,

That’s what I'm saying man. The Administrator should be more proactive and delete all the bull crap as soon as they appeared in the blog. As readers and users we should never replied to them until administrator delete them.

I think it is high time the administrator and the users come up with these terms and otherwise same thing will happen here that already happened and happening in the DefenceNet.

Rover said...

But if you make a half baked argument, it can backfire on you. So you need to argue your point through. I will post an article on propaganda techniques and how to counter them so that many Sri Lankan patriots will benefit, in what ever they do and where ever they are (if someone else does this before me, good for them).

mottapala said...

DW,
You have misunderstood what I said. I didn't say people in UK don't read the blog. I said some gave it up.

I see a big change now. Take this as a compliment:)
[I have even brought your blog to the attention of couple of serving Generals. They read it daily :)]

mottapala said...

'We have heard all that before and it makes no different if you say it again. If you want to change it, go back to your country or Eelam or whatever and practice what you preach.'

The way to go DW. No hanky panky. Your blog your rules. take it or leave it.

These poor tamils are harresed everywhere. They cant go to north, AF is bombing them. Come to south the police lock them up. Come to the cyber space poor sods are bullied! Complaining, complaining, complaining..............

Rover said...

"As readers and users we should never replied to them until administrator delete them."

The question Eranda is will they be deleted? I don't think so. Freedom of expression perhaps also comes into play (I don't know if DW is concerned about this, but some of the administrators are).

The administrators also can't constantly monitor the comments of the readers. Its just not feasible.

To complicate the matters further, most of the visitors that visit a news blog spot just read the article, and perhaps the comments that are already there only once.

So if there are a lot of untrue comments left by the LTTErs that are not challenged at that point of time, people will believe that these are true.

I saw Peter's comments last night. And they are still there. So someone has to do something about it. Those arguments need be analyzed and proven wrong, if they are not removed quickly.

We'd better stop talking about this, or the two of us will get pulled up for breach of the blog code.

LKDOOD said...

Defencewire said...

mottapala,
What do you mean people in UK don't read us?

--

i read it everyday :)

Rover said...

Lkdood,

"Defencewire said...

mottapala,
What do you mean people in UK don't read us?

--

i read it everyday :)"

Don't take too much notice of a Mottaya (he calls himself Mottapala mind you) who can call people who were trying to prove the vile untruths of the LTTEers as "Sinhala Modayas". Some of these guys who are trying to protect the Sinhalese may not even be Sinhalese!!

Sun Tzu's disciple said...

rover,

I think ltte-supporters like peter has OWNED the propaganda contest with GoSL-supporters like yourself.

e.g. You are getting worked up by peters comment.It is obvious that he is making sarcastic humor nothing more.But you took the bait.There is a poster ' Qrious' on GoSL side whose posts are similar to peters--bitingly sarcastic and funny.
By entering into a pissing contest you are advertising your weakness.Dont think everyone can be fooled by propaganda--most people can see through the deception of both sides.So relax .

Rover said...

They could be married to a gorgeous Sinhalese!

LKDOOD said...



defence.lk

SLAF raids LTTE artillery positions - Welioya

Air Force fighter jets made precision air raids at identified LTTE artillery positions located North of Welioya this evening (April 26).

According to Air Force Spokesperson, Wing Commander Andrew Wijesooriya the air sorties were launched at around 5 pm.

Peter said...

I think DefenceWire is cleverer than DefenceNet. The latter is inclined to emotionally charged activity and lacks the foresight necessary for propaganda.

If someone says something you do not agree with; either counter the comment with your own, or simply ignore it. Deletion gives the impression that you are trying to hide something. Gagging /censorship is an age-old concept that has no place in modern propaganda.

Rover said...

Yes, Sun-Tzu, thanks, I erred on that, was in haste. I didn't use the best case to make my point. I used it mostly because it was the first post, because I was also talking about the length of time that post was there.

About propaganda, seeing through propaganda is what I need to comment on extensively.

Eranda said...

Rover,

You raised very good points. I think DefenceWire should explain how he is going to handle the situation; and we should act/help accordingly.

Rover said...

"GoSL-supporters like yourself"

You erred on this big time. As soon as I tried to refer to Peter, who by his comments seems to be like an LTTE supporter, you thought that I was a GOSL supporter. People could be much more than that. I could be someone who does not support terrorism as a tool to gain political advantage for instance.

Unfortunately we don't have Generals like Sun-Tzu who thought the best victory is in a war that is won without being fought. So for the time being, we have to put up with the bloody war.

Peter said...

"Air Force fighter jets made precision air raids at identified LTTE artillery positions located North of Welioya this evening"

How many arties does LTTE have?

Muhamalai, Nagarkoil, Mannar, Vavuniya and now Manalaaru. At 3 pieces each you are looking at a minimum of 15.

Rover said...

"You raised very good points. I think DefenceWire should explain how he is going to handle the situation; and we should act/help accordingly."

Eranda, we'll see how this works out DW was my safe heaven, were I could talk and ask questions about defense matters. And I was jolted to see it rampaged by terrorists, and hence the rather unusual reaction from my part. Nice talking to you, cheers.

LKDOOD said...

Sri Lanka arrests 9 over bus bomb

LINK

Sun Tzu's disciple said...

rover,

sorry you are the one who is supposing things.I call you Gosl-supporter from the sum of your posts over quite sometime(includ DN).
Even if you are not its not cause for getting worked up.Relax.

Rover said...

Sun Tzu,

So you are telling me that I am a GOSL supporter, when I am saying I may be not?

Ok, lets say, I wanted to depict myself as a GOSL supporter. Was I successful?

According to you I was. End of argument?

Peter said...

"LKDOOD said...

Sri Lanka arrests 9 over bus bomb"

It must have been rather a huge bomb; if it took nine people to carry it.

Rover said...

And what is all this advise about relaxing mate, I am relaxing. Did I touch a nerve somewhere? Blogging is what I do to relax.

Peter said...

"military sources told AFP that four soldiers were killed and many more wounded in long range attacks launched by the Tigers"

http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5hLpVyGdMbm2JB7pbcYWJFA1hEskw

Sun Tzu's disciple said...

Relax. End of argument.Done.

Rover said...

"Relax. End of argument.Done."

You mean blog more?

As relaxing = blogging for me.

After all, Sun Tzu's disciple is not made of same stuff as the Great General Sun-Tzu.

General Sun-Tzu would never have picked up a needless argument with someone who was not really attacking the great general himself.

Hope we part as friends.

Sun Tzu's disciple said...

rover,

I feel your English-language skills may not be up to the mark.Hence you are seeing offence where there is none, picking arguments where there is none, wasting blog-space on non-military chatter, taking bait from others and the like.

We are neither friends nor enemies.Let this be the last post.Bye.

hemantha said...

Rover,
"And what is all this advise about relaxing mate"

He is trying to infer that you are disturbed. A way of changing your mode to defensive. Just don't worry. Keep up your work.

Rover said...

Sun Tzu,

"I feel your English-language skills may not be up to the mark.Hence you are seeing offence where there is none, picking arguments where there is none, wasting blog-space on non-military chatter, taking bait from others and the like."

Wow! Now this is called Ad Hominem in propaganda technique (I taught this to Upul in the morning) - attacking the opponent without attacking the opponents arguments.

Pray may I ask, was it you who talked to me first or I to you? It was you. So I should have the last say.

You were calling me a GOSL supporter! If you said I was a SLDF supporter, I would have been ok with it. It is because I know the language really well that I was disappointed (especially when it was coming from you).

Sun-Tzu (this is the great general, not the disciple) also said you need to know your enemy really well before setting about subduing him.

Rover said...

And hence, my final conclusion is you are not good enough to be called Sun-Tzu's disciple. Sun-Tzu would fart in his grave.

Finally, Sun-Tzu would have said he would be like to friends with someone when/if it was offered to him. Remember his most venerated statement? The best victory is the one that is made without fighting a war (not verbatim). This meant, try to make friends with your enemy, as was is always costly.

Rover said...

Thanks Hemantha, Now I am off. Lets see if Sun-Tzu would be unmanly enough to back-stab me, when I am not here to defend. Bye.

Rover said...

Damn, Halfway down the stairs, I remember that I should have said Sun-Tzu's Disciple instead of Sun Tsu in my last post. Sorry.

Peter said...

My penny's worth

Rover said: "as I tried to refer to Peter, who by his comments seems to be like an LTTE supporter"

In the above mentioned instance you have assumed that I am an LTTE supporter. Likewise, Disciple made the assumption that you were a supporter of the GoSL, based on your comments.

I know who I support, and you know who you support. It is not for others to dictate our alliances.

Please don't get so emotionally charged. Just remember that "comment is free".

londonistan said...

Peter. You shame all decent tamils. Stop embarassing us and yourself.

Peter said...

londonistan said...

"Peter. You shame all decent tamils. Stop embarassing us and yourself."

Is it 'cause I is black?

Sun Tzu's disciple said...

rover,
you have an obsession about getting in the last word.Coming back from stairs just for this!
LOL!

LKDOOD said...
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LKDOOD said...




Tigers launch air attack in Welioya: no damages caused:

it was reported that 3 bombs were dropped by LTTE today (April 27) at the military forward defence lines in Welioya at around 1.45 a.m.

defence.lk


..Military spokesman Udaya Nanayakkara said two light aircraft of the rebel Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam (LTTE) dropped three bombs at the Forward Defense Line of government troops in Welioya

Xinhua


LKDOOD said...



radio australia report

Tamil Tiger rebels using light aircraft bombed two military targets in northeastern Sri Lanka early Sunday

Military sources say at least one soldier was wounded when the rebels hit two targets in the Weli Oya region....

The damage caused is insignificant, but the attack is symbolic and shows that the rebels have coordinates of military installations

Sources say the rebel aircraft managed to withdraw unchallenged despite new anti-aircraft defences set up by the military in the island's northern and eastern regions.

Upul said...

The target of the LTTE attack was an arms depot and artillery launch pad used by GOSL terrorist to perform unprovoked attacks on Tamil territory. Both targets were said to have been completely neutralized.

upul said...

I would love to see all singala dogs getting killed like rats. I will lick Thalaivar's balls for ever.

Gringo said...

[I will lick Thalaivar's balls for ever.
]

Correction... Thalaivar now has only one ball... The Eastside ball has been miplaced... lately.
(Check it out... if not sure!)

Nah...the Northside one wouldn't last forever either.. ... It's melting fast... right?

prish said...

I don’t understand why LTTE is trying to separate Tamils from Sri Lankans it only caused to end valuable 70,000 lives. As we all know where ever we go or stay Tamils and Singhalese live peacefully unless this LTTE is trying to gain undue sympathy showing a wrong picture to the world. This is what we all should admit and try to correct.. If you are a Tamil think how easily you can come to south and even if you are from north.. I understand the times when the war is intense there will be checking just to make sure u too are not going to die in a suicide attack. But just think as a whole we live with Tamils in Sri Lanka.. They have their own identity.. As Sinhalese aren’t we respect them.. Aren’t they our friends.. I have Tamil friends in Sri Lanka living next to us.. Are we fighting.. We all live together.. Just let the world know this war is wrong.. Sri Lanka is just one country for all of us.. We lived peacefully unless the times some power maniac come and brainwashed everyone to hate each other. This is the truth and this is what world should know.. Sri Lankan government is a legitimate government to all the races living in Sri Lanka.. We all vote for that government. It is representing the whole nation. We as Sri Lankan are not suppressed or under any grip of power. We all are free. Tamils Muslim Sinhalese no matter what. So as real Sri Lankan try to give the real situation to the world to understand.
This LTTE is not a legitimate organization.. so it should be beaten and freedom should prevail to the innocent Tamils who live under LTTE iron arm.

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