Tuesday, October 7, 2008

More Divisions, Brigades and Squadrons for Tiger hunt

Commando Regiment Recruitment Posters (Old Version)
Troops are planning a major showdown in the coming weeks. Further details of this plan have to be withheld for obvious reasons. The new operational engagement will span all areas of current operations.

The Army is also preparing to raise Task Force 3 following requirements for another Holding Division. Task Force 3 will be semi-offensive and will be deployed in newly captured areas, most likely in the northwestern theater of operations. The decision was made at the last Security Council Meeting headed by the President.

The original plan was to increase the strength of the existing Offensive Divisions to four Brigades each and to supplement the additional needs with the SLN and SLAF. All three branches of the Armed Forces have experienced unprecedented success in recruitment lately. Army basic training has also been totally revamped with freshers being trained to operate in small teams.

The SLN will be deployed in strategic areas of naval significance such as Vidattaltivu and once secured at Nachchikuda, Pooneryn, Alampil, Nayaru, Chalai etc. The SLAF will perform a specialized role in both defensive and offensive formations in support of the Army in newly captured areas.

The first recipient of a 4th Brigade was the 57 Division. In the coming months additional Brigades will be raised and subsequently deployed under the 58, 59, 61, 62, 53, 55 and 56 Divisions, based on need and priority. This will result in the addition of at least another 15,000 troops to the Army.

Special Forces Recruitment Posters (Old Version)
Regiment 4 Special Forces, operating out of Weli Oya will also become a fully fledged Regiment in the coming months. Established originally with only two Squadrons of 153 Special Forces each, 4 Special Forces now has 3 Squadrons and requires only one more Squadron and an Administrative Squadron to complete its status.

The 3rd Squadron was added recently by combining experienced men and freshers who passed-out from the Maduru Oya Special Forces Training School on 28th June. 4 Special Forces has been very active lately. Its troops ambushed an LTTE bus killing 7 hardcore LTTE cadres injuring another 12 at Puliyankulam yesterday.

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Rana said...

Hmmmmm,

They have teritory advantage, they know every inch in Kili area.

Strategies seems to be similar by both sides. Choose your target and attack if safe. These are small scale intrusions.

However, our numbers are large, food and medicine supply is good. We got similar or better weapons.

Air support, more arti and mortar.

I don't mind go slow with care but do we have time to prolong this war?

Mounting pressure from India and IC...

Hmmmmmm.....

Peter said...

All,

Give DW sometime. May be his supply of laxatives have finished. He'll have to work a bit harder to pull something out of the rear end.

http://peterratna.wordpress.com

TropicalStorm said...

Sujeewa, ninja, TK

Talking of or to the tamil daispora is meaningless. Because there's really nothing to atalk about. There never was.

These guys are hardwired racists. They cannot be negotiated with. To do so, is to encourage them to start snarling, get to growling and then start biting. Its much easier to shoot them on sight as you would with any rabid dog. Life is short and it need not be wasted on crappy and insane mongrels.

They are their own problem, not ours. No one should make that mistake.

THere are those who will live in peace with us. That's good enough.

Once this war is over, SL needs to follow thru and take the fight to those who we have now identified from overseas for financing of terror in SL. The right plans are now being drawn. What we need is political commitment to carry it thru with the involvement of the respective foreign governments.

Rana said...

Peter,

You are the one who is having hard time with back pain due to sore arse.

Go to Pottu, I think he is good at cleaning bad arses of tiger lovers.

Amma Gahai/Gahawi said...

Top of the morning to all!

I work up to wired and wonderful world of TamilNet! The LTTE terrorists in the jungle managed to count how many SLA dead but no LTTE Terrorists casualties. May be they are still counting how many LTTE terrorists dead! May be too many dead and LTTE Terrorists having trouble counting!

“onru; , irandu; , moondru, ...oh fcuk I missed one…back to first one… onru; , irandu; , moondru …. Who the fcuk shooting at me??? …Sh#t I miss one again… onru; , irandu; , moondru ….Hi thangachiiii…. I am the captain… wanna quickie?....oh fcuk me dead… I lost count again… oh fcuk it! I can’t count again.. ..just make it “aayiram LTTE terrorists dead”!” aayiram??? 1000??? Yeh, WTF we all will be dead soon! I am just practicing “Short Selling”

Anyway, big thanks for all the feedback boys! Apino: it would be wonderful if some one to forward the Real Ravana story to my email address one day!

Rana said...

Amma G/G,

I remeber reading "JANAKIHARANAYA" sinhal version of Ramayanaya by Valmiki when we were in theschool. It was so boring we ended up only reading "Samboga Warnana" part.

As you know what is called "Drushsha Kawya" has ten "Warnanas" or illustrations. "Samboga" is the sex part. That was the only interesting part to us at 16.

Moshe Dyan said...

hemantha,

you are partly correct. supply lorries pass through maankulam and oddusudan roads (and other B grade roads) avoiding A9.

but other humanitarian supplies including services (doctors, red cross workers, ambulances, etc.) still pass through A9 WHENEVER possible.

Rana said...

According to the legend Rawana had ten heads and so many arms but how many dicks I don't know. Must be around 10 or so, it is no wonder Seetha loved him and got pregnent!!!

Moshe Dyan said...

thambala/TS,

we should cut across the A9 now.

and MBRL fire should also be directed to areas north-east, south east and east of kili where tigers run to.

SLAF should attack tigers AS THE INFANTRY MOVES FORWARD as well.

we have discussed the dire need to have the rapid deployability of air cover.

we badly need it. use of cheap, low maintenence planes/copters, plenty of them with the ARMY would be helpful.

please excuse me for a silly suggestion. if it is possible to take arti rounds in a cessna type of a plane and if they explode when dropped to the ground, drop these on tiger gatherings at the DEAD HEAT of the battle. would be VERY effective.

avoiding run fire range is enough.

mi-24s are good, but due to the value and VERY complex maintenence they are best managed by SLAF. SLA getting a heli from the SLAF has been somewhat difficult. getting them in time has been very difficult. already MILs are doing well in "neutralising" LTTE positions IN SUPPORT of ground troops. but we need a go between.

....expecting a verbal bashing..............

Rana said...

Moshe,

I agree with taking Mankulam first and establish another entry/exit point temporaly.

untill A9 ( mankulam south) is fully clear.

Then troops can cross A9 between Mankulam and Kokavil.

If we use MBRL heavily towards east, civilian casualties be high and Indian pressure may mount.

Rana said...

Somehow, we must take the battle to them while they are trying to stall.

Time is the key for success. They want more time to prepare and mobilise. We should not delay it more than required.

Amma Gahai/Gahawi said...

Sujeewa: wonderful!

U have stole some of my thunder as I also wanted to do a bit about Intelligent Tamils race calling Sinhalese moday!

Intelligent Tamils race calling Sinhalese moday as same as all the Indian and SL people living in Australia calling Aussies “dumb” and calling themselves the Intelligent ones! I know Aussies are laughing their ars@ off for that!

Other thing I noticed about Di-Ass-Pora morons who do some feed back in DN and DW are all ways short of ideas and topics! But they are very good @ repeating same BS over and over and talk about 83, language policy and mythical and racist 2 acres.

This “Intelligent Tamils race” thinks that Sinhalese are modays and they were born to educate Sinhalese. I would say “go jump to an open pit toilet”. How u going to educate some one else when ur short of wisdom and being spoon fed so much crap from the cradle and lacks the lateral thinking.

And other thing this “Intelligent Tamils race” often do is bragging about is their academic skills. This is the same thing Indian and SL community in Australia doing today. But, who runs the country? Aussies!

I always had a high regards towards Tamil Business community in SL. They run about ¼ of the countries economy and very smart! But most of the Tamil Academic community in SL (and even in overseas) in the other hand nothing but winghers and traitors! All they have is a just a piece of paper and access to a key board!!

Amma Gahai/Gahawi said...

Boys, sorry about my spelling! Should be ” I woke up to… “

I am a dyslexic anyway ! : )) or a modaya !

Anonymous said...

I often see many of our political leaders (eg.SB) and many so called educated sinhalese say "we all came from India, so SL belongs to all of us, all are same" etc. OK. But the problem is they start like that but end justifying federel system or 'tamil demands'.

Well, legally every person has equal rights and must be treated same way. Then how come one specific ethnic gruop can get any thing special? Gen SF's recent statement which was subjected to critisism from all like UNP/hakeem co. made me think about what he said.

He said SL belongs to sinhalese. He didn't say SL doesn't belong to other Sri Lankans. OTOH does not SL belong to sinhalese?

Myth

"Sinhalese came to SL from India."

Firstly, We use the term 'India' to refer the land/kingdom esixted at that time as 'barathaya' or 'dambadiva' or parts of it. Since present India is a product of British, technicaly its history started as a British colony.

If sinhalese came to SL from India there should be sinhalese living in India at that time. But this is not true.

Truth is some people came to SL 2500 hundred years ago and after 2-300 hundred years they establish a new langauge known as sinhalese today togther with a culture and political identity uniqe to them.

Some people treat sinhales as forigners saying real local are 'vaddas'. (Real motive realtes to tamiz eezaam rather than 'vaddas'.)

We note that after they came to SL no matter what they didn't go back to where ever they came. This is in contrast to south indian invaders. Even after ruling few decades from Anuradapura south indian invaders went back to south india when they were attacked later by sinhala prices/kings.

Even today you can see tamiz refugees leave the 'homeland' and go back to tamilnadu (they know from where they came here) while 'sinhala invaders' dying in the sinhala soil no matter what happan, simply due to there is no other extra homelands for sinhalese to run back.

Anonymous said...

Sujeewa

Spot on again mate.

For me, a person who lives in a europian country, having good education, good job, house and very good peaceful life with every thing for entertainment, giving money to some outfit to kill civilians, carry out bombings and even make killing his own ethnic groups' innocent poor kids is SICK. MENTALLY RETATED. METALLY HANDICAPPED. Must see a doctor/ councelling immideately.

Rana said...

Ninja,

Mate, it doesn't matter, where we came from. What matters in we were here for thousend years now. All those years as majority we ruled this island.

For next thousend years we will rule it. Others can live peacefully, if they respect law ond order of the country they are living.

It is same for any country.

Then what is the problem. Problem is indians and their dirty politics. Wherever they go they want political power, decision making power and executive chairs, and freedom to earn as much as they want.

This the problem. Examples;

Fiji Islands
Malaysia
Singapore
UK
Canada
Australia etc.

Indians are born with greedyness running to their bones.
Whether it is north or south Indians are same.

History said...

History of Sri Lanka is very much influenced by Indian Historian. To back it that up we have many who wants to lick India’s ass. Unless we change our education system to pump in some real talent in this arena, our history will always be defined in favor of India. We don’t have people who can stand tall among Indian historians. I have personally talk to some, and they have told me how India dominate..

Very recently I saw a wiki article named Mahābhārata,

1. They claim that Mahabharata is India, which is wrong

2. They claim that Sri Lanka was part of Mahabharata, that again is wrong. I read mahabarata many time, but could find a place where it says Sri Lanka is part of Mahabarata (but it says king of Sinhalas took part in the war). I saw under discussion section some people have asked the source they have used for the Map of Mahabarata too..

So ninja and mailravana,

If you don’t know, there was a time where according to wiki the emperor Ravan was a Tamil King..

Asithri said...

Hey Thamileemist/LTTE dog-fcukfests...

I am HERE...by special invitation from my brother AmmaGG!

So let's see which LTTE son/daugher-of-whore has an axe to grind today...

Come baby...come to poppa...

OaO Asithri

Amma Gahai/Gahawi said...

HA HA HA Asithri! What an entry! Wannakam!

Amma Gahai/Gahawi said...

Mr. Brown, Peter and FreadomFighter: meet , OaO Asithri!!!!

Asithri said...

I see some unenlightened, uneducated discussion on Sinhelas history here by some half-baked kooks, so naturally OaOA feels compelled to join in...ouch!

Let me ask you bloggers here...which of you so called experts on "Sinhelas history" has traveled widely in India, especially the NE states of India like the Bihar, Bengal, Orissa in "search of roots" like I have done?

I guess not many...if any I bet!

Well, let me tell you I have.

The Sinhelas identity is so strong in these three states that I found it hard to believe that I had been living in a cocoon thinking that Sinhelas landed on SL from the sky all my life!

For example, in Bihar there is an ancient city - over 2800 years old - that is called Anuradhapur! Yes, "Anuradhapur"...coincidence?

Well, let me take you to another more touching experience...in Bengal I came across a man whose proud family name (over 1000’s of years he professed) was "Veer-shekar" and when I asked him what his name meant he said "bravery at highest"...Wow!

So, how many of you so called Sinhela history experts here know the meaning of "sekera" or "sekara" at the end in many of our Sinhela names?

I guess only a very few if any, but I see they come here and talk like bloody historical/linguistic experts! LMSSAO!!!


"sekera" or "sekara" at the end of Sinhela names is the same as Indian "shekar" and that in Sanskrit means "at the highest point"...!!!

Well well...looks like some of us need to close those gaps in our paltry, meager education about ourselves…isn't it???

An undeniable, unalienable fact from not only my research but academia:

Sinhelas came to SL from the NE India and today's Sinhela language has a close connection to the modern day Hindi as they have the same origins. I know of a Sinheal dude who fell in love with a New Delhi girl, married and settled down in ND and in 3 months the cat was fluent in Hindhi (when I visited him)!

I suggest some of you so called Sinhela-history kooks here need to travel and experience first hand what “India” is all about!

OaO Asithri

Louie Jacques said...



DW,

In ur title you "Unbiased Defence NEWS" then u should mention every news, like day before yesterdays' army death fig, tamil nadu issues...etc

otherwise change ur title to "Government defence new" or "MR mouth orgen"

Asithri said...

[Mr. Brown, Peter and FreadomFighter: meet , OaO Asithri!!!!]

The pleasure is all mine...mostly humbly yes, I say again the pleasure is ALL mine!

LMSSAO!!!

OaO Asithri

Asithri said...

"Lasantha" Wickrematunga of the Sunday Leader:

Said to DW:
[otherwise change ur title to "Government defence new" or "MR mouth orgen"]

Never mind DW, how about you change your title to "RanilW Ponnaya's felletio- instrument"...???

LMSSAO!!!

OaO Asithri

Moshe Dyan said...

wow!

thanks OAOA for sharing first hand experience here.

and welcome to DW.

Asithri said...

AmmaGG

[HA HA HA Asithri! What an entry! Wannakam!]

Wannakam my dear sinna/periya thambi...wannakam indeed!

It is indeed Wannakam all the way to burning those toxic terra bodies on tyres, in Sakkilinocchi!!!

LMSSAO!!!

OaO Asithri

OaO Asithri

Louie Jacques said...




Dw,


Please let me know the meaning of "Unbiased" ??? (even u called tamilnet/tamil.... pro-ltte webs)



simply it is pro-SLA. that is OK, But,at least u should remove the "Unbiased" part



Moshe Dyan said...

hi lasantha,

if you are behind the "sundry leader" and the "mourning reader" newspapers, please add the phrase, "ranil's orifice" underneath the name.

someone very reliable told me that lasantha and harris wickrematunga (now in canada) used to live down wasala road in kotahena in the 1970s and a group of boys including him used to regularly screww lasantha at a spot down mayfield lane. is it true?

is that why you joined ranil?

Apino Dannachess said...

Bro Amma Gahai/Gahawi

Try the following link for Ramayanaya:

http://www.valmikiramayan.net/

http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/rama/index.htm

Note: had no time to read and check it myself.

Keep up the good work.

Cheers
P.S. I hope based on the above, you would write your version of the Ramayana ...I mean completely. It would be a hit bro.

Apino Dannachess said...

Dear Bro Asithri,

Glad to have you here and thanks for the good write up.

Cheers

Asithri said...

A word of clarification...

The purpose of relating our Sinhela "connection" and my personal experiences in NE India where I was on "in search of my roots" has nothing to do with...

Sucking up to the bloody Indians today!

Many in the Indian establishment are so brainwashed over the "Tamil Hindu" factor that they would not know if the bloody carcass of the Hanuman dead monkey rose from dead and fcuked their mother!

However, equally important…I have met "today's intelligentsia" in India who are the modern, much, much more enlightened vis-a-vis is the Sinhelas younger generation in India and they, being broad minded, are indeed quite sympathetic to our perspective irrespective that the majority of us are "Sinhela buddhists"...!

My particular style is to not to bend down and c-suck these Indians (like how "thamileelamist" do shamelessly, including how Bala the Paraballa did towards his last stages) but to associate with them in a steadfast, dignified and mutual affinity fostering climate. When you adopt such a disposition, you will be surprised how they begin to listen to you and respect you and your Sinhela race (that is under attack today from the “racist thamilians in Tamilnadu” – as they usually love to put it!).

OaO Asithri

Asithri said...

apinoD / Moshey,

Thanks for the welcome bros...I knew about this DW blog (and often thought well about it), but was too damn busy to post in both (DN and DW), but when my dear bro AmmaGG nudged me, I couldn't resist the temptation! LOLZ!

Gotta go now...

As big Arnie said...

“I will be Baaaaaaack!”

LMSSAO!!!

OaO Asithri

Amma Gahai/Gahawi said...

OaO Asithri: ha ha nice! Just wait for the real clowns to turn-up!

Apino: Thanks mate, I’ll do my best!

Lasantha: do u know how the name Lasantha originated? Lasantha<<<< Lasa-atha <<< Lassana-Atha (beautiful arm). I knew ur a w@nker!

Jambudipa said...
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Jambudipa said...

Asithri,

/*
Sinhelas came to SL from the NE India and today's Sinhela language has a close connection to the modern day Hindi as they have the same origins.
*/

Bear with me here. I am exploring the possibility whether could have happened in reverse! Either Sinhela's landed from North India or they were here all along and migrated to other parts later. If the geography of this region is observed, the first migrants would end up in the southern most tip of the continent. At that stage, the land mass would have been an contiguous region not yet separated into an island.

Then we have the lion story. I have always wondered whether there is a connection there with 'Lion of Babylon'.

http://www.atlastours.net/iraq/babylon.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mesopotamia

There has never been any lions in this region. Where did the inspiration for a lion come from unless the people who migrated here from Persian/Mesopotamian civilisation?

Connecting both things together, I am floating the idea Sinhela's are in fact migrants from Mesopotamian civilisation who arrived in this region 7000 BCE and spread across the entire subcontinent.

Jambudipa said...

I am open to ridicule! but just remember before anyone open their mouth even Columbus was ridiculed when he said the earth was not flat! :)

Asithri said...

Panhinda

Mate, I beg to disagree with your assertion that:

“There has never been any lions in this region”

India once had a vast lion population by historical accounts and many Indian epics allude to lions in various shapes and forms.

Although in my travels in India I did not go into Gir national park or other wild-life/game parks to see lions, there’s enough literature about lions inhabiting in India, even to this day, and here is one such sample site:

http://www.wildlife-tour-india.com/indian-wildlife/indian-lion.html

However, mate, I take your point in the spirit it is directed…in that, yes, the lion was an esteemed/venerated symbol in the Persian/Mesopotamian civilization and given that the Indo-Aryans of India actually migrated there from central Asia over 6-5000 years ago, your assertion that the lion in the Indian context really had its origin in the “Lion of Babylon” or some Persian context may hold some credibility.

After all, Persians (i.e. the modern day Iranians) are the closest link that the Indo-Aryans of India (of which the Sinhelas of SL are an extraction) have today to a non-South Asian nation (as they, the Persians, themselves are Aryans and not Arabs, although they live in a sea of Arabs) might add further credibility to your view.

However, I would like to point out that as far as I am concerned, these interesting historical discussions must be made only in that context (history) and not in any superiority context to differentiate against our fellow man - especially to NOT differentiate against our fellow Sri Lankans who are non-Sinhelas.

Sounds reasonable? I bet!

Must really scram now...catch you later mate.


OaO Asithri

Apino Dannachess said...

Dear Bro Panhinda

Interesting views and really original thinking ........I believe people are broadminded enough not to ridicule these.
-----------------------------
Dear Bro Asithri

And a nice reply .

-------------------------------
While historical writings and archeological remains might help us to find the origins of Sinhala people, there is one fool proof method that can answer most these questions. That’s is the study of human DNA….which is the inbuilt recording mechanism that all of carry which meticulously records our ancestry.

Allow me to quote from the National Geographic site about their Genographic project:
_____________________________________________________________________
A Landmark Study of the Human Journey
Where do you really come from? And how did you get to where you live today? DNA studies suggest that all humans today descend from a group of African ancestors who—about 60,000 years ago—began a remarkable journey.
The Genographic Project is seeking to chart new knowledge about the migratory history of the human species by using sophisticated laboratory and computer analysis of DNA contributed by hundreds of thousands of people from around the world. In this unprecedented and real-time research effort, the Genographic Project is closing the gaps of what science knows today about humankind's ancient migration stories.
You may refer the following link:
https://www3.nationalgeographic.com/genographic/


Such a study will lay to rest all the speculations, but might result with unpalatable outcomes too. For example as a result of this study they found out that Thomas Jefferson had Afro/Arabic roots.

Even at the early stages of the study one thing is clear, there is no one pure race as such. Like the song says….all mixed up.

I know the DiAssPora says that most of the present day Sinhalayas are actually Tamils. But I wonder we don’t have the typical “Perumal” look.

Cheers All

Amma Gahai/Gahawi said...

Apino : “Perumal” look! Ha ha

My favorite is “Rajinikanth” look!

Anyway, Good Night to all and May u all have a Super Wet Tamil Eellam Dream!

Jambudipa said...

Asthri yes, makes sense. Apino.. cheers matie!

V4Victory said...

For those of you asked the updates of Vanni Operation

Sun Tzu's disciple said...

V4V,

Do I see some Tigers wearing armour vests?
What are the small green plastic containers that I see captured from SLA every time? ( I'm not talking about the rounded water canteens)

Unknown said...

MD,
I agree with you about cheap helicopters and planes. I once mooted this idea, perhaps in a bit more different way.

These should belong to the army. One successful argument against this was the damage that would be caused to these assets by stationing them near to battle zones.

MD if it's ok with you can you mail me at thambala@gmail.com ?

Unknown said...

MD, sorry that should be thambalagamuwa@gmail.com

Unknown said...

Looks like justice is catching up to the Mahindha mama and gang.

Sri Lankan rice farmers who fought against President Mahinda Rajapakse and his powerful brothers, trying to construct an international airport on their paddies, say they won because their cause was just and enjoyed popular support.

"There was no hidden agenda. It was not a personal battle; I fought in the national interest and 800 families were involved in the campaign. Why did the Rajapakses back off? Maybe because we were clean and honest," says H.M. Premachandra, 52, president of the local paddy farmers' society that so successfully
campaigned against the airport.

http://www.ipsnews.net/news.asp?idnews=44187

Apino Dannachess said...

And some more updates too:

http://www.defence.lk/new.asp?fname=20081009_02

TamilNut is yet to report this....may be busy searching for the civilians casualties....makeup artist must be late today....

Cheers Weva

Apino Dannachess said...

Looks like the entertainment starved DiAssPora are clutching at straws.....ANY NEWS IS GOOD NEWS for them.

If it makes them happy, here some more similar news items:

http://www.colombopage.com/archive_08/October8182058SL.html

http://www.colombopage.com/archive_08/October8120243KA.html

http://www.colombopage.com/archive_08/October845352KA.html

http://www.colombopage.com/archive_08/October815242SL.html

If such Anti-Mahinda news relieve them of their frustrations, hypertension, angst....then I'm more than happy to post some more.

Cheersma Weva

Apino Dannachess said...

Guys,

Like Saman K'wala said, lets not attack these DiAssPora Juveniles and ancient turd honkers (old Farts) ....lets study and help them to rid their angst...frustrations.

After all they were part of our fellow countrymen.

These Net-Hooligans are akin to Vultures. They will only surface in this blog when there is some carrion to feast on, carrion being the carnage of civilians by their terrorist minions.

And when they do appear, most often than not they leave behind comments similar to street graffiti...lot of colour sans substance.

You will not see them hovering above, when their terrorists are getting a beating.....that's about to happen.

So, lets shower them with Metta....

Cheers

Apino Dannachess said...

And here is stress leaving mantra to our DiAssPora brothers: Recite it often.

OOOOMMM

First verse:
Maninda Modaya!
Mervin Soorya!
Gotaa Buruwa!
Ranil Weeraya!

2nd verse:
Sinhalaya has no history!
Their ancient ruins a mystery!
There 2000+ year old existence a conspiracy!
Yet they claim superiority!

3rd verse:
SLA is a gonna...we kill them 20 per day!
SLAF is a gonna...we down their migs dozen a day!
SLN is a gonna...we send them to bottom every day.
STF is gonna....we claymored all, the other day!

OOOMMM

May you be content with yourself.

Cheers

Apino Dannachess said...

Some more updates guys:

How dare they call freedom fighters, Terrorist! Shame shame..shame.....andawanei!!!!Mokada Wune!!

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
UN, US ,Russia, EU, Australia Condemn Barbaric LTTE suicide attack in Anuradhapura

Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon deplored the latest suicide bombing in Anuradhapura, which has killed many people, including retired army General Janaka Perera, and wounded scores more.

"The Secretary-General strongly condemns acts of this kind that have caused the death and injury of many civilians throughout Sri Lanka," Mr. Ban's spokesperson said in a statement. "He reiterates his consistent position that no cause or grievance can justify indiscriminate attacks against civilians."

The United States in statement condemned the attack " in the strongest possible terms".

"Also killed in this heinous suicide bombing, which occurred during the ceremonial opening of the office of the North Central Province opposition leader, were several members of the provincial council and numerous other innocent bystanders. We express our deepest sympathies to the families of the victims and the people of Sri Lanka".

"The United States denounces this reprehensible attack on civilians. Its perpetrators have advanced no cause other than to bring further suffering to the people of Sri Lanka. Only a political solution, not further violence, can provide a way forward to ending the country's deadly conflict," the statement issued by the US Embassy in Colombo said.

Meanwhile, European Union External Relations Commissioner Benita Ferrero-Waldner deplored the suicide bombing.

"I condemn in the strongest possible terms this appalling act of terrorism which cannot be justified under any circumstances," said Ferrero-Waldner.

The Embassy of the Russian Federation in Sri Lanka also expressed "its profound condolences to all bereaved family members of those mercilessly killed and injured as a result of barbaric suicidal terrorist act committed in Anuradhapura on the 6th of October, including the former Ambassador of Sri Lanka in the Soviet Union Dr. R. Johnpulle with his spouse and the former Envoy of Sri Lanka in Australia and Indonesia Major-General J. Perera with his spouse".

"We strongly condemn terrorist activity in any part of the world whatever slogans are used to justify it and express our confidence, that the friendly Sri Lankan people will soon secure peace and stability throughout the island." the statement said
+++++++++++++++++++++++++

My deepest sympathies to the DiAssPora brothers....how dare they call such names!!!!

reasonablytreasonable said...

Ninja,

"Gen SF's recent statement which was subjected to critisism from all like UNP/hakeem co. made me think about what he said. He said SL belongs to sinhalese. He didn't say SL doesn't belong to other Sri Lankans. OTOH does not SL belong to sinhalese?"

That's bull, and you know it. If Prabhakaran announced, "this country belongs to the Tamils", everyone would be up in arms. But when Fonseka says it, you rush to twist his words to escape the racist implications enmeshed therein.

Let's look at Fonseka's quote in full; I believe only the full quote gives it justice:

Fonseka said: "I strongly believe that this country belongs to the Sinhalese but there are minority communities and we treat them like our people. We being the majority of the country, 75%, we will never give in and we have the right to protect this country. We are also a strong nation. They can live in this country with us. But they must not try to, under the pretext of being a minority, demand undue things."

Notice how he constantly uses the words "we" (i.e. the Sinhalese people), in contrast to "they" (i.e. the minorities like Tamils and Muslims). The CLEAR implication of his words, is that Sri Lanka is a Sinhalese country, and the other minorities are just visitors.

And people wonder why there is a raging civil war!

Sujeewa Kokawala,

Actually, references to the Mahavamsa and other canonical works of Sinhala-Buddhist culture are not primarily made by Tamil nationalists, but by Sinhala nationlists (the JHU is a prime and powerful example). The appeal to ancient texts and traditions is a common feature of reactionary right-wing politics all around the world.

There is no denying that the toxic admixure of Sinhala-Buddhist revivalism with national politics in recent decades, and the divisions it has cultivated between Buddhists, Hindus, Christians and Muslims, is helping to fuel the flames of sectarianism in Sri Lanka.

Jambudipa said...

Each of these anti-personal mines require a AAA battery to operate. Few large consignments have been captured recently while being smuggled. I am pretty sure many still are smuggled via sea and minor roads.

In few countries there is a legal requirement to notify authorities if large quantities of suspicious items are purchased from wholesalers and other merchants.

I am thinking we need to do the same. Merchants must notify the Police if attempts are made by anyone for quantities larger than usual with cash payments for these banned goods such as batteries.

Moshe Dyan said...

thambala,

sent an email to your account.

perein said...
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perein said...

Nama-
Please note LTTE does not represent the whole Sri Lankan Tamils. Therefore please do not generalise and bring the all Tamils to the
discussion.
Please Let's avoid the racism and discrimination.

Apino Dannachess said...

Breaking News:
Another "Puss Wedilla"!!! so....

So now anything is game; the retired, any minister....are we getting desperate here????
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Female suicide cadre targeted Maithripala’s convoy – Police



Police media spokesman confirmed that a female suicide cadre had jumped at the convoy of Minister Maithripala Sirisena when he was returning from Bandaragama. The minister’s vehicle was not damaged. Two vehicles of his convoy sustained damages. Six persons were injured from the blast.

Apino Dannachess said...

At this rate, the Gorilla Mervin too will be targeted.....

Apino Dannachess said...

More info on the today's stunt.....for God Sake Minister of Agricultural Development & Agrarian Services!!!!

Who's next....minister of Woman's affairs? Minister of Forestry ( or shall I say deforestation) ?

This is sure damper on our DiAssPora brothers recent jubilation over Gen. JP's death...Sorry guys...we feel for you.....




Minister Maithripala Sirisena escapes LTTE assassination attempt - Boralasgamuwa [Updated]

[Minister of Agricultural Development & Agrarian Services Development and General Secretary of Sri Lanka Freedom Party, Maithripala Sirisena had a narrow escape from an LTTE assassination attempt this afternoon (Oct 9).

A female LTTE suicide bomber exploded herself targeting the vehicle convoy of the Minister at the Pirivena Junction , Boralasgamuwa around 1.15 PM. Police confirmed that the explosion has caused no harm to the Minister.

According to the latest information , no one except the suicide cadre has been killed in the explosion. Seven others including Deputy Minister of Agrarian Services Siripala Gamlath have sustained injuries. According to the hospital sources , Minister Gamlath has suffered only minor injuries. Five of the injured have been admitted to the Teaching Hospital , Kalubowila, the sources added.

More information will follow..

Apino Dannachess said...

When the Terrorist are beaten militarily, more and more civilians will be targeted in Colombo...I hope necessary precautions will be taken by the People Driving the War effort....Commanders, DefSec etc.

Be safe brothers.....rabid cats are on the loose.....

PHANTOM-X said...

apino said...

Be safe brothers.....rabid cats are on the loose.....

correction brother...

We Lions belong to the Cat family...Cats are clean animals...Felines are always clean...!!!

LTTE and it's leader "The FAT PIG" belongs to Pig family...The Wild Boar, Sus crofa cristatus) is a close relative of the FAT PIG and LTTE Piglets. Pigs are not clean, they stink, and thats why they always like to swim in open pit toilets...!!!


Ha Ha Ha.... : )

Moshe Dyan said...

tigers have become bold recently.

2 suicide attacks within 4 days!!

after the first one there were no retaliatory attacks; that is what made them bold.

it time to punish them hard and send the message loud and clear that IF they try anymore experiments, kili & mula will be made living hells.

retaliate!

MrBrown said...

Cry loud till tiger hear it..:-)

Jambudipa said...

Time to embarrass the LTTE. When LTTE pay people to act for them, they must make it convincing next time. The Lankan navy does not carry "sickles" in their arsenal.


Sri Lankan Navy attacks Indian fishermen
- 9 Oct 2008, 1300 hrs IST,PTI

"Police said that the fishermen, who were travelling in 15 mechanised boats, were attacked with iron bars, sickles and nylon ropes by Lankan navy personnel who also fired over 50 rounds in the air."

Adrenaline_Grin said...

I am with echolalia on SF's comments. I thought the same way too but you said it better.

SF's a great general but i wish he would leave politics to the politicians.

Apino Dannachess said...

Dear Phantom-X

I stand corrected.

"Podi Mishtake ekak PantongEksh Aiye !"

:)
Cheers

Jambudipa said...

http://www.ltteps.org

While the Sri Lanka Air Force had destroyed a large number of civilian homes in Vanni in the pretext of attacking LTTE military bases over the last one year, the civil administrative structured of the de-facto Tamileelam government were left intact for fear of reprisals on the parallel structures of Sri Lanka by the LTTE.

They could try to bomb govt civilain buildings i.e. CEB etc. Most probably drive in bomb. Its probably a good idea to have suitable barriers infront of all important govt buildings.

Infinity said...

We'll take steps to ban MDMK, says Jayalalithaa
http://www.hinduonnet.com/2002/07/13/stories/2002071305030100.htm

Ban MDMK, says Union Minister
http://www.hindu.com/thehindu/holnus/004200810091833.htm

Corey said...

Jayalalitha Supports Tamils, not LTTE:
We'll take steps to ban MDMK, says Jayalalithaa

By Our Special Correspondent
CHENNAI July 12. Accusing the MDMK of continuing to proclaim support for the Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam, the Tamil Nadu Chief Minister, Jayalalithaa, today announced that the State Government would take necessary steps to ban the party.

``I think the MDMK deserves to be banned because in their executive committee meeting, they have passed a resolution that the very purpose of the existence of the party, the very purpose of their participation in the Central Government is only in order to support the Tamils in Eelam. It shows they are not here to do anything for India or for Tamil Nadu or for Tamils in India,'' she told reporters.

``When they are so vocal in their support for a banned organisation, and when they go on obstinately proclaiming that they will not change their stand, and that they will continue to support the LTTE, I think that it is something very dangerous which cannot be tolerated. We are going to initiate steps to have the MDMK banned,'' she said.

Asked if the State Government would demand the resignation of the MDMK Ministers from the Centre, she said she could not give a ``blow by blow'' account ``like a cricket commentary'' of what her Government intended to do on the Marumalarchi Dravida Munnetra Kazhagam.

To a question whether the State would ban the MDMK under its own laws, she said the State could not ban an organisation throughout the country. The State Government would take steps as and when necessary. ``I cannot give statements just in order to provide sensational headlines for you.''

Denying that the AIADMK Government had any ``political motive'' in arresting Mr.Vaiko, she said she did not consider Mr. Vaiko a competitor. ``I do not consider Mr. Vaiko as a rival at all. He never has been a competition to me, he never will be,'' she said. The arrest situation was not of the Government's choosing. ``Left to me, I would rather not have taken this action,'' she added.

Asked why police had sought non-bailable warrants when these were not necessary under POTA, she said they felt that these were necessary.

Asked about the use of POTA against other parties such as the PMK, the DPI and the DK, which are also supportive of the LTTE, she said the statements of the leaders of these outfits were ``carefully worded'' and did not attract the provisions of POTA. But if they supported the LTTE openly in the manner of Mr. Vaiko, the Government would take action against them too.

Asked about the BJP's description of the arrest as ``unwarranted'', Ms. Jayalalithaa said the statement of the BJP spokesman, Arun Jaitley, was made out of ``political compulsions.'' The arrest of Mr. Vaiko would not give ``new strength'' to Tamil nationalist groups. The Government would put down the activities of such groups with an ``iron hand.''

If people like Mr. Vaiko, who glorified a terrorist and criminal like Prabakaran, were allowed to make statements in support of the LTTE, it would corrupt the mind of a whole generation. The LTTE was a terrorist organisation and its leader, Prabakaran, was a proclaimed offender in the Rajiv assassination case.

Answering a question, she said she was not involved in any way in the Sri Lankan peace process, but she had warned the Sri Lankan Prime Minister, Ranil Wickremesinghe, in her capacity as a good friend that the LTTE was ``unreliable.'' Groups such as the TNLA and the TNRT gained a new life because of the support of the LTTE, which had links with the ULFA and the PWG.


MDMK Minister throws a challenge
Coimbatore July 12. The MDMK treasurer and Union Minister of State for Non-Conventional Energy Sources, M. Kannappan, today dared the Tamil Nadu to ban his party. ``We have done nothing to warrant such action'', he told presspersons here, adding that the State had no powers to ban a political party.

Sujeewa Kokawala said...

First of all [I forgot this last time] this Ravana analysis is a beauty from AmmaGG. Abundant creativity. Enjoyed to maxa. Shared with many pals [w/o ur consent, whoops - but I kept your name in it, which caused them asking why that name]

Thanks for responses for my posts. It is very important to study Tamil diasporah mentality, whether you are planning to raise attempted genocide charges at Hague, or you're planning to heal their pain in some sort of counciling or it is just your interest.

Panhinda+OaOA I like the topic of yours in an academic interest, the origin and expansion of sinhala. Will try adding some to your topic if time permits [in a separate post]. But I see no relevance of it to decide who shud live in SL. Even an eskimo deserves to live in SL if they come thru right PR process. Every race under the SL airspace have the same right [and nothing special].

Let me start on that very note - nothing special. If SL is home for all why do some claim that two of its provinces as their "native homeland"? Let us see the self-cheating, obsessive, addicted, cheap cunningness they exhibit as usual. Diasporah I do not intend to blame you here, just trying to get the rusted "reasoning" module in your brains to trigger some pulze.

First of all, how stupid a choice - North and East provinces.

- These provinces are marked by the British. How nice that your native homeland was marked only by the British [1796CE onwards]. I thot your chola descendant race has ~1000yrs of history in SL. Now if you take the british oriented limits as your "homeland", you've been natives of it only for ~200yrs. Well now dont tell me 200 > 2500, or this is a bug in Mahawamsa.

- If you're the god given owners of this island, and Sinhala are some invaders [the famous myth of yours], then you ought to call entire SL as your native homeland. Dont think of us the invaders. Do the right thing. Why just two provinces?

[SL is indeed your native homeland, and ours too, as civilised brains decide it based on the birth of the individual, not the oldest fore-father. And educated brains know that tracing one's forefather back in time, ends up in ameoba or amino acid, nowehere inbetween. i.e. no human race has existed seperated from others]

- What evidence do you have to call these provinces as your homeland. In liberated east, when they dig below the level which pussycat earthworms contaminated, they find archeological evidences which always lead to Sinhala. Imagine, the earth worm specialist pussycats still cant dig the total height of the dust pile that got collected throughout the long sinhala history.


And now, since you guys always dig the depth of the ancient books like Mahawamsa let me talk about it.

- You blame Mahawamsa, but your SL-borne forfathers of pre-history didn't write any-wamsa. It may lead anyone to believe that they never existed. Your history books are written by the likes of, Ponnambalams, Chelvanayagams, and Balasinghems. What a long history.

- The fancy fairy-tale of yours that, you the pre-aryan yakka descendants who ruled the "homeland" until the invader Dutugamunu overwhelmed Elara. This is purely based on Mahawamsa. I mean, all your fabrication is done on the platform of this book. No wonder you respect and love it so much. For us, it is one of the legend-based fictions [history experts, first part of Mahawamsa is a fiction which he composed on known legends, written to teh standards of Maha Kavya]. We refer it for the academic purposes only.

- As per the fiction of yours, you were invaded ~161BCE and from then on, you're "occupied" for 2000years. Let's say that your fantazy tale is real for our ease. What unfair act is this? "Occupation" against SL tamils is even 10times longer than the "occupation" against aborogini Aussies by anglo-people. My frnds, ppl call a 2000yr old occupation as "an independant nation".


And now I come back tp my prev topic - psycho-disorder. This is an overwhelmingly unrealistic tale of million missing links [in fact all links missing]. I would expect to hear this during an over-the-fence argument in some shanty, where they try whatever method to prove they own the land in dispute. You guys are educated. You guys are well relaxed and well off. This is very kiddish and cheap.

Why? Because you guys are vultures waiting to create some opportunity somewhere. You found the soft-hearted and UNP-SLFP divided SL.

Diasporah, You are cheating yourself. You're obsessed with "homeland". You hve lost reasoning amidst these.


Now Echolalia, you stated that you guys keep on refering to Mahawamsa as some ppl [like JHU] do so. Every govt has a right wing component, but the entire govt is not run on their vision.

[Even Pauline Hanson of Australia's OneNation party previously contested under the national party which is a key member of Howard administration. Just because of this Howard is not regarded as a die-hard racist]

- Compare this with Diasporah. Like drug addicts they keep on spreading their myth and mostly they are racist. We have 3% racists, diasporah has ~80%.

Diasporah Gentlemen [and ladies], a fraction of your brain will be enough to understand the kiddies games here.

Note one thing. You can cheat yourself. But your dream will come true only in a fantazy fiction like Harry Potter.

NOLTTE=Peace said...

Sujeewa Kokawala,

Great stuff man.. debunk the Tamil die ass pora myth..

You know what Tamil Civilisation started in SL and SL Tamil exiles populated the entire Tamilnadu...

Not the other way around..!

Vigilante said...

Sujeewa kokawala,



Your service is very much needed in www.lankanewspapers.com

However, may be its a waste of time to convince these hopeless LTTE maveers who live everyday with a bunch of lies.


Any way keep the articles comming.

It helps very much....

Vigilante said...

http://www.army.lk/morenews.php?id=17134

TigerKiller said...

Sujeewa Kokawala

You are genious man !! . Keep on writing . I enjoy and learn from You !

thanks

TigerKiller said...

Sujeewa Kokawala

Actually You should write a book one day

Moshe Dyan said...

way to go!!

didn't we discuss it here just 2 days ago????

"SLA shelling blocks A9 again
[TamilNet, Thursday, 09 October 2008, 14:27 GMT]

Sri Lanka Army (SLA) has stepped up artillery shelling targeting the A9 road from Vavuniyaa to Maangku'lam where traffic is diverted east of the A9 road into Mullaiththeevu district. The entire strip of the A9 highway between Vavuniyaa and Maangku'lam has been blocked after a bus narrowly escaped from the shelling on Wednesday. The reports of SLA blocking the route comes a day before humanitarian supplies are expected to arrive in Vanni."

Rana said...

Morning Moshe,

Yes bro, Thangavelu Pukakaran's "KAPPAN" highway is getting shelled.

Very soon arse hole is going to loose A9 from Omanthai to Iranamadu. Infact they are already avoiding most of the A9 due to close proximity of SLA troops.

Yesterday I saw some vedios with fierce fighting in Kili, west front. It is so nice to see thet our boys are taking tigers face to face!

Moshe Dyan said...

morning rana,

the southern situ is a bit worrying.

POINT A

1. JCP attack on monday
1.5 NO retaliation from SLDFs which is strange
2. another on thursday
2.5 NO retaliation so far
3. NO punishment = encouragement for tigers which means more attacks to come.

POINT B

1. there is reason to believe that southern security is going to be handled the CONVENTIONAL way following the registration of ppl.

2. this is a receipe for DISASTER

3. counter-terrorism warfare includes abductions, executions, EFFECTIVE interrogation, tracing terror suspects THROUGH civilian leads, etc.

the moment we go back to conventional tactics, security collapses like during CBK & JRJ times. RP, DBW and parts of MR eras were less turbulant thanks to the use of TRIED & TESTED counter-terror measures.

this is not a time to experiment stupid methods. govt should stick to what worked so far.

Anonymous said...

Two days ago ZTPE killed the democratically elected (in fact, getting the highest number of preferential votes) opposition leader of NCPC, Janaka Perera.

(It is kind of sad that every one forget this part. JP has the right to be a part of democratic system and he was no more military man at the time of attack. Still BBC and other HR champions mentioned allegations made by LTZE against him, which were not proved, and skipped the part that he was a politician work in a democratic system, in their reports.)

Now LTTZ targeted another democratically elected politician and minister. (Of course, Maithreepala Sirisena also got the highest number of preferential votes in Polonnariwa district.)

Thus within four days LZTE targeted two politicians who represents public. What has done by the so called INGOs/ NGOs/ western diplomats/ Robert Blake etc/ HR champions and all those who fight, protest and crying for democracy? Did they find LZTP’s method of killing civilians using suicide bombers is any more democratic than what SL have now?

When LZTE killed RanjanW some people said Premadasa did it. When LTZP killed GenDenzilK and others some people said Premadasa did it. When LZTE killed LalithA some people said Premadasa did it. When LTTP killed Premadasa then also the same people said Premadasa did it. (SLFP politicians included.)

Now when LZTE targeted CBK UNO said she did it. When LTTP killed LakkiA UNP said PhilixP did it. When LTTP killed JanakaP UNP now say GR did it. Now when LTTP targeted MaithreeS UNP will say MR did it.

LTTE is not just the most dangerous and ruthless terrorist organization in this world. It is the luckiest terrorist outfit too.

We will see more stupid suicide bombers blow up within next couple of months. It is our (public) vigilance need to make sure they will die just killing only themselves. I hope in either case it will be a pleasure for diaspora. (well, we don’t need to say ‘diaspora modayas’ as any one who support LTPZ willingly must be modayas.)

Anonymous said...

Sujeewa Kokawala

Another good one, and keep them coming however keep in mind you are another modaya. Our 'very inteligent' diaspora has (some how)all the authority to find and brand who are the modayas in this world.

//These provinces are marked by the British. How nice that your native homeland was marked only by the British [1796CE onwards].//

In fact this was marked for a second time. In the first marking they divided SL into 5 provinces. Later into 9 provinces. In iether case thier aim was to divide and weaken the sinhala unity.

British faced two big freedom struggles from sinhalese. And they found the sinhala admin system was based on some geographical dicisions. (gam, korala, paththu, disava etc) And the people within each unit has their own leaders and the unity. What brits did was making new provinces in such a way there wont be that unity and leadership any more.

//You blame Mahawamsa, but your SL-borne forfathers of pre-history didn't write any-wamsa.//

This is the other joke or the sad part of 'eezhaam peedom struggle'. Elara, kalinga maga and all other invasions and any thing peelaamistanees claim on based on the same mahavamsa they hate.

Jambudipa said...

Sri Lanka's Tamils : Whose victory?
-The Economist

http://tinyurl.com/4zhayj

Few EzyHam zealots running riot in the readers reply section.

Jambudipa said...

Sujeeva,

/*
Panhinda+OaOA I like the topic of yours in an academic interest, the origin and expansion of sinhala. Will try adding some to your topic if time permits [in a separate post].
*/

i look forward to read it.

Anonymous said...

echolalia

SL is a democracy and its different to LTTE's eezhaam fantasy. A newspaper asked a question from GenSF and he gave an answer. Thus it is his personal view and part of the freedom of expression. And, other people's criticisms and the criticisms of those criticisms also part of the freedom of expression.

GenSF work under the SL law and there is nothing to worry about one of the sentences he made with his duties. However this is different to LTTE mechanism. Did you find anything wrong in any of VP's or other LTTE leaders statements? (Well, VP's one and only annual talk is written by someone else.) OR did you find anything wrong with what LTTE do so far? (For example killing civilians in suicide bombings.) If so let us know.
PS. It seems you expect GSL/SLA/SLDF to be 100% correct according to all the standards in this world. Zero collateral damages. Can you tell us what kind of ‘standard’ you expect from LTTE?

Rana said...

Moshe,

I agree with your points. However, SLDF needs to be careful in retaliatory actions mainly b'cause Indian factor and secondly western concerns. You cannot prevent cowardly suicide attacks on civilians but important officials should be protected at any cost.

SLDF should tighten security measures behind FDLs. Tigers can infilterate to south from FDL lines and sea. They have hidden explosives and arms, mines every where.

White vans and anti terrorist uunits in civilian cloths is good answer. No arrests, no courts only bullets.

However, battles should go on, according to reports yesterday we had a good harvest. If we can kill another thousend in October, assuming most of them from elite groups like Imran Pandians, Charls and Ratha brigades, that will weaken LTTE militorily.

Other thing is increasing air surveillance to detect cadre movement and strength all areas. If we know the strentg and movements SLDF can ambush them, even Navy can do a surprise landing closer to battle lines, in places like Nachchkuda.

As it seems SLAF is still not hitting their targets accurately, that is a worry to me.

මොරටු සමන් - MoratuSaman said...

Thawatikie ohoma yan...

Killinochie final fireworks almost about to start....

white man and van should deploy elsewhere...the best solution for Eelam hunger..

elakiri

Amma Gahai/Gahawi said...

Boys and Girls and anyone in between (nothing wrong being in between anyway)!

I have a dilemma!!

As Sri Lankan we used to say “Sinhalese, Tamils, Muslims and Burgers ect. As some one posted earlier new SL population senses shows Muslims population have out numbered Tamil population? Correct?

Then, as Tamils always asked for the recognition then we should recognize Muslims achievement. So, now in Sri Lanka when we referring to the communities we should use Sinhalese, Muslims and Tamils ect. From now on! Am I correct?

Regarding the Muslim issue, this what Arthur C Clarke said: “Historically, Islam had a great deal of tolerance for other views and offered the world its priceless wisdom in the form of astronomy and algebra. And, as you know, Islam helped rescue Western civilization from the Dark Ages by preserving classical texts and transmitting them to the West. We, on the other hand, burned the library at Alexandria. If Islam hadn't fallen into internecine warfare and had gone on to conquer the rest of Europe, we'd have avoided a thousand years of Christian barbarism.”


I grew up in the wonderful town of Galle and lived 15 to 10 minutes off the town on my Chally Bike (guys remember Chally bike mania we had in 1990’s??? of coz I didn’t had a license as I was underage and hardly wore my helmet as I didn’t want to mess up my nicely gelled hair ! lol)

We lived in a street (Kinnda “T” junction and Sinhala families lived in the bottom part of the T and it had a “dead end” and Muslims were on the top part of T. So, if the wanted they could have cornered us and beat the sh#t out of us) where Sinhalese out numbered by Muslims! Yes, true! But we had a wonderful relationship with them.

We had our moments, when Sinhala and Muslim fist fights broke out in SL (mid and late 80’s) we were bit cautious as we were out numbered. But as usual, my father said “no way these people going to attack us! We are friends! But my mums elder brother was a nut case. Ex. JVP (1970’s when he was young) and big timer in civil service but still had his connection with “friends with weapons”! Only thing my father would do on these times was to call a friend in Army or Police and get an Army or Police Jeep to come with 2 of them and hang around our street.

But every time something brewing my uncle would come to our place and put a contingency plan to my mum as my father have no interest in weapons and petrol bombs but my father always gave up to my mums nagging!

Boys, don’t ridicule me on these and say BS as these are best times of my young life! My uncle would bring his “friends with weapons” and taught kids in the street how to make a “Perfect Petrol Bomb”. And he would proudly show my father the weapons he brought to protect us and as usual my father would say “show it up in ur ars@”!. Yes, we as kids loved it and I (think) still can make a “Perfect Petrol Bomb” but I have never got to throw any of the PB’s I made! So, I still don’t know how good my PB’s were! lol

Anyway, we never went to war with our Muslim friends! Only war we had with them was monthly Cricket match. Sinhala boys Vs Muslim boys cricket match played for a “Tin of tennis Balls (4)”. Winn to loose ratio was about 40% to Sinhala boys as frekaing Muslims boys were too good.

One guy stands out! Captain of Muslim Boys team.. fcuking Sumsudeen! He was short guy (bit like Kaluwitharana) bat 1 down or 2 down. He would come to crease wearing his “Sarong” and take it off on the middle of the pitch and hand it to umpire (ofcoz he had a short underneath)! On a bad day, he would smash quick 40 or 50 in 5 to 10 overs! In a good day, he is a fcuking pain in the ars@! I was one of the younger boys to play for our team and had a good reputation as I played bit of cricket for school team. One of the Sumsudeen’s bad day, fcuker smash me for 4 sixes in one over! So, Sumsudeen… if ur reading this (hope ur doing gr8) I am still looking to k#ll ya! : ))

I remember on Ramadan period, every day we get our share of delicious “Muslim Kanda/kanji”. For the whole fcuking month they take turns to send us our share. And on the last day we get plates and plates of Muslim Rice/Burriyani and so many other delicious and wonderful foods! I still recon those were the best food I ever had! Thanks for that my friends. And Two Hoots for those beautiful girls on veil (only top of the head ofcoz not the whole face like fcuking Thaliban) I had massive crushes (u girls still comes to my dreams time to time lol).!! We returned favor on our New Year!


And last not least, Three Cheers to all the Muslim boys who hang around (smoke and drink and other sh#t too!) with me/us on after school, private classes and played Cricket and Rugby with me/us and played soft ball cricket in Galle Fort Rampart and had a swim with me/us in Galle old Jetty ! Hope u all doing gr8!

.

P.S. Tamil terrorists and LTTE di-ass-pora: pls don’t use my feedback as launching pad to repeat the 100milion+ times repeated 83 story!

Boys, hope I have not wasted ur time and space! If I did, then I am really sorry!

AmmaGahai

Rana said...

Amma G/G,

Good yarn mate!

I never had such a luxury b,cause I grew up in Pannipitya where there is no tamils or muslims. I also did all you did but with 100% sinhala crouds, what a pity!

Muslims are smarter than most of tamils but most of them go for business rather than higher education. Tamils are not very intelligent but hard crammers, that is why they get a degree somehow. My final year I shared a room with a tamil boy from Vevetithurei who did math special while I was studying for electrical/electronic course. This guy was lower than average.

Even in those days, we saw good respectable tamila students as well as Zakkiliyas. This zakkili croud is the problem. A good tamil is religious, peaceful and friedly with others.

Amma Gahai/Gahawi said...

Rana, “zakkili crowd “ lol true! Shame I didn’t had Tamil friends while I grew up. I got very good Tamil friend here and he is a rehabilitated Hardcore LTTE supporter! Yes, true! Rehabilitated by a very nice Sinhala Kumarihami!!!! Lol

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Jambudipa said...

Amma-G,

/*
I grew up in the wonderful town of Galle and lived 15 to 10 minutes off the town on my Chally Bike
*/

I was born in Galle and ancestral home was there. Never really lived there though.

With the Muslim issue, I hate to generalise but it appears to me their strength is in business and enterprise. I always do all my business with the Muslim community. I do it with them because I always get a good quality and courteous service. I find, the quality of customer care and service typically do not exist with the others - especially the courtesy aspect.

October 10, 2008 7:53 AM

Amma Gahai/Gahawi said...

Panhinda: “Born in Galle” wonderful!

On business and enterprise, fully agree with u. They know how to do business!

KB said...

Dear patriots,
We are almost done obliterating (Sa)Killinochi shanty town. Lets finish this quickly and establish a 'Novus ordo seclorum' - a new order of the ages like our great kings Abaya Gamini and Wimaladharmasuriya did.

Cheers!

wijayapala said...

Echolalia,

First of all I want to say that I condemn Fonseka's statements (although not the man himself). It is not possible to simultaneously argue that minorities have equal rights to Sinhalese and that Sri Lanka belongs to the Sinhalese. You have to choose one or the other and then live with the consequences.

"If Prabhakaran announced, "this country belongs to the Tamils", everyone would be up in arms."

Who's "everyone" you're talking about? The Tamils? You know as well as I that any Tamil who disagrees with Thalaivar gets murdered- you or I on the other hand don't have to worry about criticizing Fonseka. And FYI, Prabakaran DID announce that N-E Sri Lanka belongs to the Tamils and only the Tamils.

"There is no denying that the toxic admixure of Sinhala-Buddhist revivalism with national politics in recent decades, and the divisions it has cultivated between Buddhists, Hindus, Christians and Muslims, is helping to fuel the flames of sectarianism in Sri Lanka."

And you will certainly agree that toxic Tamil nationalism has brought the Tamils of Sri Lanka to the point of utter ruin, yes?

KB said...

Magnus ab integro saeclorum nascitur ordo. Iam redit et Virgo, redeunt Saturnia regna. Iam nova progenies caelo demittitur alto.


"The great order of the ages is born afresh.
And now justice returns, honored rules return.
Now a new lineage is sent down from high heaven."

Cheers!

Asithri said...

AmmaGG

A most wonderful "down the memory lane" account brother...I enjoyed reading it very much!

Although my ancestry is in our beloved Ruhuney (in Galle/Akurassa to be exact), my later-years’ ancestral folks had moved to Colombo and established themselves while having/maintaining their strong (and proud) roots to our "Dakuney"...but in my case, no, I did not grow up in Dakuney like you did, but in Colombo and attended a leading Colombo school (many patriots here know which it is) and as such, most of my fondest memories - very much like yours AmmaGG in Galle – were mingling and living with those well-built, hard-drinking, hard-partying Burgher boys and chic and quite “forward” Burgher gals in Colombo.

Yep matey, aha, those Burgher gals at that time (most are in Australia today I know; married with kids too! Some are divorced I hear…yes, may be time for a trip to D/U!) were a sight to behold...especially when they wore those mini-skirts that our Sinhela girls were (mostly) forbidden to wear at that time even in Colombo!

Aha, the Sri Lanka we knew...the SL we grew up in without ethnic hatred although we in our own way were strongly aware of our own ancestries and had fun-loving rivalries with a clean sense of fun all round!

However…

The only oddity to this type of story is the fcuking racist Jaffna Tamils (who later became the LTTE) - who never ever blended in with the "Sri Lankan" ethos...

No wonder we have a so called ethinic problem today...a problem that is almost now "cleaned up" and must continued to be cleaned up “with extreme prejudice" as yours humble OaOA loves to say!

PEACE to all my patriotic SL brothers/sisters!

OaO Asithri

wijayapala said...

Amma-G, I owe you an answer. If Kaatikuddupaan is reading, he can add anything he likes.

Some people believe that Pottu Amman, the LTTE Black Tiger and intelligence commander is Prabakaran's most dangerous asset. After all, Pottu masterminded the deaths of countless Tamil dissidents and leaders, including both the Indian and Sri Lankan elected leaders. If Janaka Perera's recent killing or the attempt on Maithripala were not planned by Pottu, they were planned by flunkies trained by Pottu. I can understand why the politicians make a big deal out of him.

Yet for all this, we have to ask ourselves a very basic question: what has Pottu Amman done to shape the strategic balance of the conflict between Sri Lanka and the LTTE?? In other words, can we point to any single thing or series of things which Pottu did to bring the LTTE closer to achieving Tamil Eelam?

Here's what I have to show:

1) By orchestrating the murder of Rajiv Gandhi, Pottu irretrievably and firmly set India against the LTTE and Tamil separatism. No level of begging and sobbing by dead Balasingham or third-rate Tamil Nadu twats like Vaiko or Ramdoss could ever change this. On the other hand, the LTTE gained absolutely nothing from killing Gandhi.

2) Suicide bombing has gotten the LTTE on the terrorist list of most countries in the civilized world. The LTTE briefly stopped suicide bombing after 9-11 and the CFA, but it took it up again heedless of the consequences.

3) In the history of the LTTE, it has been the military division, including units such as the Charles Anthony Brigade and Sea Tigers, which brought real power to Prabhakaran. It is the military division which occupies territory where people live. It was the military division that defeated the SL military in the past and thus paved the way for the CFA, nearly resulting in total victory. It is a fact that the military division is the foundation of the LTTE's entire enterprise.

Building an efficient military force requires a strong level of cooperation between commanders and their troops. The commanders just can't issue orders- they have to be able to trust their men to do their jobs, and the men have to have faith in their commander's experience and skill. The LTTE used to have this setup but it's now gone thanks to Pottu.

Karuna left the LTTE because he believed that Pottu was out to get him. From that point onward, everything went downhill for the LTTE, namely losing the east and having to watch ex-tigers take over. Since then, Pottu has been very busy sowing fear and distrust into the military division. DBS claimed that the Sea Tigers blamed Pottu for Soosai's mishap at sea last year, where Soosai was badly injured and Jr. was killed.

I have given a long answer but I hope it answers your question.

Amma Gahai/Gahawi said...

Asithri:

u r welcome to do a trip D/U and would be nice catch up for a beer. I can invite wijayapala too! : )) Untill u do ur trip u can always pass me the contact details for those divorced Burgher gals (under 40?)! I am sure they need a shoulder to cry! Ha ha ha

wijayapala :

Thanks mate! Yep, make sense. I thought Pottu was the different between SLA and LLTE. Once Pottu start spying on own team members, I guesses sh#t hit the fan!

Bhairav said...

Who is actually updating this DW lately? DW, please tell your wife not to update this blog anymore, enough of her glorifying statistics like more division/brigades and how many panties she about to stitch etc.

DW has become just another DN which is nothing but defence.lk.

Anonymous said...

http://www.tamilnet.com/art.html?catid=13&artid=27153

tamilnet says,
6 livestock were killed at Kumarapuram.

there is a possibility that VP is among them

wish other five to be poddu, soosai, bhanu, theepan and jeyam.

wish all of u a productive day
cheers

V4Victory said...

Goodday everyone,

I read a real terrorist story in SrilankaGuardian which may help SL ministers since they become more vulnerable recently in the long run war.

Louie Jacques said...




Defence Wire,

if U r really unbiased at least U must mention "innecent civilian casualties in wanni".. there were lot of people killed by our defence forces as well.

Why r U keeping ur mouth shut ?
"TRUTH HURTS !!!!!!!!!!!!"




Louie Jacques said...



Civilians are civilians wheather they r sin... or tami..... this further says U r against tamil....
that is a kind of terror.....



Moshe Dyan said...

lasantha,

if you don't like DW, why do you come here?

DW appeals to MOST bloggers and visitors here. that's all that matters.

DW has posted about civilian casualties manytimes IN THE RIGHT PERSPECTIVE.

winning the war is the only sustainable way to permanantly end all civilian casualties for good.

Jambudipa said...

v4vic,

Thanks for this article. Writing from Kilinochi I guess K. Mylvaganam cannot truly be open and be free to write his thoughts. I also felt he was being disingenuous when he did not reveal everything about the army operation in 1995 to capture Jaffna. This was when little Puli was uprooted from his home and all his troubles began. His family lost everything in the displacement. What this reporter does not reveal is the fact over half a million people were forced out from Jaffna to Vanni by LTTE. This was knows as the 'Great Exodus'. This is exactly what LTTE is doing now with others in Vanni. Had LTTE left people alone, little Puli would have grown to be a big Puli. He would have been able to realise his dream by going to university in Jaffna.

Similarly, what else is this reporter hiding? I guess, if you are not free to be open, best thing is stop writing altogether.

Rana said...

Thanks Amma G/G for your comment,

Thanks Wijepala for your comments too, I believe almost everything you said is correct bro.

Now, there is this BHairav Zakkiliya, "Ado Punde" you don't know anything about Zakkili brain, they do all sort of cheating to pass exams, my room mate from Velvetithurei told me how they used to cheat on multiple questions in physics and chemistry with marked ruler passing around.

Still the bugger could not get a good pass but ordinary pass in his degree. I was the one who teach him how to do maths most of the time, you basterd.

If they are so intelligent why they are still cleaning toilets MF?

However, your race is not belongs to Sri Lanka b'cause they are too smart or any other reason, who cares. Go to south Africa like Maduvani (VP' wife). I am about to ask Gen. SF to go to SA and bring Maduwani by covertly/overtly to sri lanks and F**k her relentlessly until FAT ARSE come out from his rat hole for dual with SF. then we can see tiger vs lion and who has the real balls!!!

Puran Appu said...

DefenceWire,

We are waiting to hear some hot news from you.. Any news from the battle fronts? How far is it now to Kilinochchi?

PHANTOM-X said...

Lasantha said...

Civilians are civilians wheather they r sin... or tami..... this further says U r against tamil....
that is a kind of terror.....

Geeez man....are you out of your mind..?
We are not against Tamil's and majority here are NOT racists.
People here agree on one thing, that is elimination of Terrorism.
you are right, civilians are civilians whether Sinhalese or Tamils. LTTE is responsible for holding the civilians.Without civilians the LTTE is dead and gone.

Pottu said...

I can see most of you been discussing about me.
My brave son Peter will be handling all the comments later today. (He's half bro to Charles Anthony.)
So do not hurt my brave son Peter's feeling.

Pete.. .Waanga.. Waanga to Appa...my pulleee

Hi..hi... He..he..

Anonymous said...

Sinhalese pro-LTTE UNPers and other sinhala opportunists are to be blamed for the death of our war hero Janaka Perera.

RIP Janaka! May your spirit be able to watch how our brave soldiers liberate & unify the lost land!

We salute you for defending Sri Lanka!

perein said...

Gallemalli-
Long time no see. Welcome back bro.

SunGod V.Pirbakaran (prabha) said...

DEFENSEWIRE

NOTHING COMING OUT FROM YOU FOR DAYS. WHY NOTHING HAPPEN IN BATTLE FIELD?.

CAN YOU GIVE SOME EXACT CLARIFICATION ABOUT CASUALITY FIGURES. BECAUSE PM RATNASIRI PRESENTED SOME FOR PARLIMENT WHICH WE CANNOT UNDERSTAND. WHEN WE GONE THROUGH ALL MONTH NEWS FROM DEFENSE MINISTRY SITE THEY NEVER INDICATE THAT TOTAL. WHAT IS THIS BULLSHIT FROM THE GOVERNMENT. IF WE SAY FOR SECURUTY REASONS GOV NOT GIVING THESE DETAILS WHY DO THEY DO THAT IN PARLIMENT. OUR HEROIC FORCES SACRIFICE EVERYTHING TO SAVE MOTHERLAND. BUT GOV ?....

TOO MANY CORRUPTIONS
TOO MANY MINISTER
TOO MANY EXPENSES
TOO MANY PUPPET SHOWS

THIS IS A COUNTRY PEOPLE LIVE IN LOT OF HARDSHIP. AS SAME AS OUR BELOVED BROTHERS IN THREE FORCES. BUT CANNOT SEE THAT FROM GOVERNMENT OR MR. LEADERSHIP DRAMA IS NOT ENOUGH THEY MUST SHOW IT PRACTICALLY.

DW, PLEASE TELL US THE TRUTH ABOUT WAR FRONT.

Peter said...

DW must experiencing a shortage of laxatives.

Ppl should give him sometime.

Chapter 2

Apino Dannachess said...

Bro Moshe,

Looks like your request for punishment is taken up by the SLAF:

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Triple Air raids target LTTE dens in Kilinochchi

[Click to magnify/shrink] Sri Lanka Air Force fighter jets launched 4 air strikes targeting 3 vital encampments of LTTE terrorists this morning (Oct 10), air force sources said.

Air Force spokesperson Wing Commander Janaka Nanayakkara speaking to defence.lk said that the first of the 3 air raids was taken at 6.30 AM targeting an LTTE communication centre located 3Km , northeast of Paranthan.

In addition, two air raids were taken at 7 AM targeting an LTTE leaders' hideout located 2km northeast of Kilinochchi town, he said.

At the same time, the third air strike was taken targeting a den of LTTE suicide bombers, also known as Black Tigers located 1.5 Km west of Paranthan, he added.

Speaking further, Wing Commander Nanayakkara said that all three targets were effectively engaged.

<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

May the Racist Pigs ( No longer Putty Tatta as corrected by my fellow bros)roast!!!!!
Cheers

Apino Dannachess said...

DW, we are at your mercy for some insider news. So this is not a demand but a humble request.
.......................
Any news on the following?:
* LTTE counter offensive in Mullaittivu crushed; 49 terrorists killed in clashes yesterday
Oct 09 (MOD) The focus of the Wanni liberation operation turned to Mullaittivu front yesterday (Oct 8) as troops of 59 division crushed an LTTE counter offensive in the Andankulama area. According to finalized military reports 49 terrorists were killed and another 32 wounded in yesterday's fighting both at Wanni and Northern battle theaters.

Cheers

Apino Dannachess said...

Bro Amma Gahai/Gahawi

Nice write-up about your childhood. It brought back similar happy memories about Galle, although I’m from Kalutara. As my BIL was from Galle, every school holidays I got to spend about a week with my BILs bro who was the same age as I.

Our usual haunts were Gall Fort, Unawatuan Beach, Rumassala Kanda. We would gas up my BILs old Fiat car / Mahendran Jeep and go around Galle. Or sometimes we would just bike it out aimlessly.

Whenever I return to Sri Lanka, I still go to Galle Fort, coz it’s a such a wonderful place to be.

Thanks Bro

V4Victory said...

Hello DW,

small request, can you block abusive bloggers for a short term or atleast instruct them to write in good manner?

Please dont allow them to write vulgarly.

Apino Dannachess said...

Bad news for our DiAssPora Bros'

_________________
Action sought against pro-LTTE outfits

Special Correspondent

PUDUCHERRY: Union Minister of State for Planning and Parliamentary Affairs V. Narayanasamy on Thursday demanded action against the organisations that supported the Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam (LTTE).

Replying to queries on reports relating to certain political parties and organisations extending support to the LTTE “under the guise of opposing genocide of Tamils in the island,” he told reporters here that the State governments including Tamil Nadu, should take action against those individuals and organisations for backing the banned outfit.

He also flayed the general secretary of the MDMK , Vaiko, for “openly expressing views in favour of the LTTE.”

He also referred to the steps taken by the Centre through diplomatic channels to stop the killing of Tamils by the armed forces. , besides stressing the need to ensure safety and security of the Tamil population in the island.

http://www.hindu.com/2008/10/10/stories/2008101060091100.htm

So much for the support from India.

Looks like the Indians have better memories, than us Sri Lankans. How can they protect the murderers of one of its illustrious sons?

Dance & Make Noise while you can.

Cheers

Apino Dannachess said...

In Sinhala we say "Balloth Ekka Nidagathama, Makkoth ekka thami Nagitinne"

So the presence of the DiAssPora Dogs in this blog are the leading cause for vulgarity here.....

V4Victory said...

Apino,

Nothing going to work out against pro-ltte parties because it has become a sensitive issue now. It could reverse if and only if LTTE shows its upper hand in the current operation. This is just a kinda game.

V4Victory said...

/*
In Sinhala we say "Balloth Ekka Nidagathama, Makkoth ekka thami Nagitinne"

So the presence of the DiAssPora Dogs in this blog are the leading cause for vulgarity here..... */

You repeat the same thing again man. We may have diffrent political beliefs, but we are humen. Dont forget. This is comment place.

Moshe Dyan said...

apino,

yes mate; that was my prayer; i'm happy now.

SLAF, keep up the good work. may god bless you.

Katch said...

Hi Guys,

An interesting article from Dushy Ranatunge. He had to have a body guard to protect him from ltte goons in London because he exposed some of there scams sometime back.



Sri Lanka is a Republic, not a Sinhala country.


by Dushy Ranetunge in London

(October 09, London, Sri Lanka Guardian) Ven. Ellawala thero’s comments about Sri Lanka being referred to as a Sinhala country is interesting.

But the interpretation of what was meant by the term “Sinhala” then and now should be made clear.

Today the word “Sinhala” has a ethno-linguistic meaning, similar to the word “Tamil”.
But in the past, and for most of our history, the word “Sinhala” had a completely different meaning, similar to Chola, Pandya, Kerala, Kalinga, Sinhala etc. referring more in terms of a Royal house/kingdom.

Under this Royal umbrella, the people would have identified themselves under various tribes, clans and castes. For example the people who built Buddhist structures in Tissamaharama would not have identified themselves as “Sinhalese”, but as “Nagas” or some other tribe, as Magama and Kelaniya were known ancient “Naga” settlements. Tissa we are told is more a “Naga” name than a “Sinhala” one.

The Mahavamsa refers to the Naga’s defending the Western gateway into Anuradhapura and sitting on a throne, equal in size to the Sinhala king.

Dutugemunu carried the Royal standard of a Lion, but this Lion flag did not signify an ethno-linguistic race, but the Royal house, under which various tribes would have united. This perhaps enabled a Tamil Buddhist Velu, also known as Velu-Sumana to fight under the Lion flag, together with many other tribes such as the Nagas.

This concept also enabled “Sinhalese” generals to fight in Elaras army and for “Sinhalese” people in Anuradhapura to love and respect Elara as a just ruler. Of course they were not “Sinhalese” people in today’s sense, but various tribal inhabitants of Lanka, identifying themselves under the royal patronage of Elara and Dutu Gemunu.

This concept also enabled “foreigners” from South India and “Catholics” to sit on our throne as the “Sinhala” king enabling present day tribalists to misinterpret the meaning of “Sinhala” and to celebrate these “foreigners” and “Catholics” as champions of the “Sinhalese” ethno-linguistic identity.

So we have a “Tamil” Perumal who become a “Sinhalese” Sapumal, a “Sinhala” champion who invaded Jaffna and built the magnificent Nalur Kandasamy Kovil in Jaffna. A Buddhist monk even wrote Sandeshayas to his glory. Even to this day the Kattiam at the Nalour kandasamy kovil mentions his name as “Sri Sangabo, Buvanekabahu”.

Don Juan of Austria, a baptized Catholic is also celebrated as the “Sinhala” champion, Vimaladharmasuriya I of Kandy. He was married to the Catholic, Donna Catherina, the Empress of Kandy and the mother of Rajasimha II, another champion of the “Sinhalese” who besieged Portuguese Colombo. His brother Prince Kumarasimha was also known as Xavier Kumara Banda, a baptized Catholic.

Significantly, the Mahavamsa refers to “Lanka” rather than “Sinhale”. “Hela” or “Sinhaladvipa”, terms which are given disproportionate publicity for mischievous reasons, by present day tribalists, who are trying to give a particular tribe in Sri Lanka some kind of pre-eminence.
This same evolution of the word “Sinhala” from a Royal/kingdom identity to a narrow ethno-linguistic identity has taken place with our flag.

The Lion flag is the royal standard of the Sinhala royal identity and not of any ethno-linguistic Sinhala tribe. The Kings of Sri Lanka carried this Lion standard and they, and the Lion flag, commanded the loyalty of all the many races and inhabitants of Lanka.

But since the demise of the Kandyan Kingdom and the rise of tribal nationalism in Sri Lanka, the relatively new concept of the Sinhala ethno-linguistic identity has taken sole possession of the Lion flag as their own flag, excluding all the other peoples the Lion flag represented previously as the flag of the Royal house.

So today we have to accommodate the other inhabitants of Sri Lanka, outside the Lion flag in terms of a green and an orange strip.

From the time of Dutu Gemunu to Sri Vickrema Rajasimha, the Lion flag also represented those who are represented today by a green and an orange strip.

The evolution of the identity of the Lion flag is the tragedy of Sri Lanka, of alienating some inhabitants of Lanka based on the new European concept of ethno-linguistic nationalism. Europe has defeated its demons and moved on, while we are still stuck in old outdated nationalist concepts of a colonial era.

The concept that from the moment that Vijaya landed, we were one cohesive group of inhabitants identifying ourselves as of the Sinhalese tribe, living in Sinhale or Sinhaladvipa is a mirage, far away from reality.

Being an island, Sri Lanka had a constant stream of settlers, from various nationalities and tribes, enriching our culture and nation. DNA testing may prove that most of us, including our present political and military leadership are of South East Asian, South Indian and European descent.

The passport that Rev. Ellawala carries identifies him of not as being of Sinhale, Hela or any other classification based on a particular tribe, but as a citizen of Sri Lanka, a republic, which functions on the foundations of equality and citizenship and not of any particular tribe.
The constitution of Sri Lanka and parliament functions on this basis.

The concepts of Hela, Sinhale, etc as narrowly interpreted by present day ethno-linguistic tribalists never existed in our 2500 year old history. Those who advance such misguided theories share the limelight with the likes of the KKK, the British National Party, the National Front and even Adolf Hitler.

Germany for Germans and the Jews for the gas chamber? No…no… we are more respectable, so we will let the Jews live among us, as equals, but remember, Germany for Germans.

It is incredible that at a time that we are fighting to defeat Tamil Eelam, some others are advancing perceptions of a Sinhala Eelam, “Sinhale Ueber Alles”.

For those who are confused let me gently remind them that we are not living in Hela or Sinhale, but in the Democratic Socialist Republic of Sri Lanka, constituted under law under the concept of equality and citizenship. - Sri Lanka Guardian

Jambudipa said...

There is a news report late Gen. Janka Perera did indeed request security from Anuradhapura Police but none was forthcoming. This was the police who stood by watching when Dr. Pulle's house was burnt down by political goons lead by SLFP PC thug Berty Premalal Dissanayake and his brother-in-law. The magistrate was highly critical of the Police. Dr. Pulle also died in the bomb blast. There is criminal negligence here by the Police and possibly Berty Premalal. Berty may have even helped the LTTE to assassinate the General. Who knows, he may have even given information to LTTE for the AAB attack. This crook will do anything for a buck.

Roaring Roy said...

Patriots, their is this article from Kusal Perera in the Daily Mirror, that deserves a comment from you all. I've done my part as well as I could.

Thank you.

http://www.dailymirror.lk/DM_BLOG/Sections/frmNewsDetailView.aspx?ARTID=28703

Unknown said...

SHOOTER,

"TOO MANY CORRUPTIONS
TOO MANY MINISTER
TOO MANY EXPENSES
TOO MANY PUPPET SHOWS"

FIRST ONE I ALSO DON’T ACCEPT.
BUT WITHOUT THIS TOO MANY MINISTERS (SLFP + PART OF UNP-KARU’S PARTY-)/EXPENSES (MAHINDA HAS TO GIVE MINISTERIAL POSTS TO EVERY ONE) ETC ETC…., UNP WILL TURN MAHINDA’S GOV.
THEN TOTAL VICTORY WE HAD UP TO NOW WILL BE REVERSED WITHIN A DAY OR TWO…. (NO WAR –> “CFA”)
SO DON’T BLAM…. IF YOU WANT TO BLAM, THEN DON’T ASK ANY WAR SITUATION /INFORMATIONS……..

Jambudipa said...

- LTTE arms ship sailed from Kampuchea
- Norway tired of LTTE

Reports LankaEnews.

Moshe Dyan said...

panhinda,

intersting.

i have no regard for this bertie.

but the conduct of UNP to which janaka belonged to, is very puzzling. read in the island?? today about few suspicious things surrounding the case.

how many UNP MPs participated at the opening ceremony of the UNP anuradhapura office?????

at least anuradhapura district MPs could or should have participated!!

then the air lift, childrens' political vows, etc. apparently they had vowed to continue JCP's work in NCP after their studies. bullshit. they are our family friends. they will NEVER do that.

clearly JCP's funeral has become a BIGGER political gamble for the UNP than his life.

we are talking about a war hero!! its very sad.

Apino Dannachess said...

v4victory, Sorry Bro, SSSOO! there is some humanity left after all!

Yes, I did repeat it, intentionally for the consumption of the English (only) Speaking DiAssPora Bros.

Nothing personal, but I'm willing to go the whole 9 yards...on this issue ( your freedom struggle and our struggle to liberate Sri Lanka of pestilence) and I limit it at that.

Lets finish this and then we can talk humanity. Not that I like it, but the nature of the thing is such, humanity and the so called struggle don't jive well. One is achieved at the expense of the other. I'm not disillusioned to think otherwise.

And any attempt to tackle both at the same time will send us both ( Sri Lankans/ Eelamist) on downward spiral....leading to incremental suffering on both sides.

So let’s work hard at our goals and I wish you well in your endeavors.

Let me put it another way. Let’s think of this blog as a Gypsies Musical Show. Thus the audience here will be Gypsies fans and the songs sung are meant for the consumption of said fans. Songs may be meaningful, and may be downright silly, but as fans we like em’ all!

We are happy bunch singing along with a occasional hoot or two from a drunken fan ( mind you we have them). Now lets imagine we are singing “ Nayaka Waddage Duwa Gomari Hada Kari……”, and one of our DiAssPora Bros come crashing with “Adi Ennadi Rakkamma….”…………. give me a break , what do you expect from the fans.

The decent fans will remind the DiAssPora Bro’s that he is in the wrong musical show singing the wrong song to wrong crowd. And we have done that.

But just like any sample of fans we too have few fans with short fuses and all. These guys will dispense with the pleasantries and tell th DiAssPora singers to go hang.

An intelligent DiAssPora Bro will respectfully leave the show and may go to his “BonyM or Bony Mennon” show….you should try that. Really good one too.

Is that what is happening here. Hell No!. DiAssPora Bro now tries to grab the guitar from “Piyal Malli” and tries to sing “Hutch Hutch Kothahe…oops sorry Kutch Kutch Hothahe”.

Man! its luck if the DiAssPora Bro leaves with his pants still covering his posterior.

Even Sunil Aiya might resort to vulgar comments.

Hope this clarifies it.

Cheers
P.S. When all this over, you are welcome to share a good cup of toddy (Raa Polkatta) with some hotly boiled manioc cum lunuimiris…..in Kalutara. Conversely I would like to try some Kitul Raa in Kili or Jafna….

Jambudipa said...

Moshe,

I understand issue with the coffin being air lift etc only political grand standing. The non-participation of UNP stalwarts is puzzling but can be simply put down to no more electioneering needed there. Anything else is mere speculation.

On the other hand, the threat on the lives of UNP members by this Berty dude is real. He has shown intent to case harm to Dr. Pulle who was killed in the blast. Berty should be one of the prime suspects in the killing of both the General and Dr. Pulle.

The question arises why wasn't the Police present at the event? It also very likely Berty influenced the Police to stay away knowing this was about to take place.

Roaring Roy said...

At last, here comes counter propaganda that was lacking for a long time from the GOSL'S side.
Enjoy!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFmdzTI809E&feature=related

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ammapa!

reasonablytreasonable said...

Wijayapala,

"First of all I want to say that I condemn Fonseka's statements (although not the man himself). It is not possible to simultaneously argue that minorities have equal rights to Sinhalese and that Sri Lanka belongs to the Sinhalese. You have to choose one or the other and then live with the consequences."

So let me get this right - you think agree that it is impossible to argue that 'minorities' have equal rights while claiming the country belongs to the Sinhalese, yet somehow it IS possible to support the head of the armed forces who clearly believes this to be the case? I admire the moral acrobatics it must take to maneuver yourself into such a stance.

Meanwhile, several important questions remain. For instance: why would such a prominent figure make such a provocative statement? Why does he believe this, and feel the need to publically make it known? What implications do such racist sentiments have for the future of 'minorities' in Sri Lanka?

I would suggest that you take time to consider these questions, with due consideration of the country's history of communalism (stoked by people with the same mindset as Fonseka).

"Who's "everyone" you're talking about? The Tamils?"

I used "everyone" as a rhetorical device, aimed at the people like ninja, who were defending Fonseka's comments.

"You know as well as I that any Tamil who disagrees with Thalaivar gets murdered- you or I on the other hand don't have to worry about criticizing Fonseka. And FYI, Prabakaran DID announce that N-E Sri Lanka belongs to the Tamils and only the Tamils."

Au contraire, people all across (GoSL-controlled) Sri Lanka *do* have to worry about their safety if they denounce Fonseka and the war effort. And not just Tamils. 'You know as well as I do' that repression of political dissidents is on the rise across the country, as HRW and AI have documented.

Of course, the intensity of this repression is not uniform. So whilst it may be true that 'you or I' do not have to fear (depending on where we may live), in GoSL-controlled areas which are more volatile, criticism of Fonseka can land you a free ride in a white van.

"And you will certainly agree that toxic Tamil nationalism has brought the Tamils of Sri Lanka to the point of utter ruin, yes?"

Nationalism is a dead-end, yes.

I do not equate Tamil nationalism with Sinhala-Buddhist nationalism though. I think they are both equally infantile and silly, but they have very different roots, and those roots are important for a political understanding of Sri Lanka today.

Sinhala-Buddhist nationalism arose as a dominant political force well before Tamil nationalism did. Tamil militancy and separatism was not an issue at the time the Sinhala Only Act, standardisation, or the 1972 constitution, were introduced, for instance.

The 1972 (or 1971? Might have the year wrong) constitution actually stated this: "the Republic of Sri Lanka shall give to Buddhism the foremost place and accordingly it shall be the duty of the state to protect and foster Buddhism".

Remember, this was all before Tamil nationalism and separatism had any significant political currency. Even if you were to argue that it did have some currency, it had no where NEAR as much currency as Sinhala-Buddhist nationalism did, given the facts stated above (e.g. refashioning the whole constitution to suit Sinhala-Buddhist nationalism, making Sinhalese the only official language etc.)

Tamil nationalism did not grow in a vacuum; it grew and gained mass support, directly in response to the above.

Why are these things important now? Because nothing fundamental has changed. Sri Lanka's rulers, bereft of any genuine way to garnish popular support other than populist appeals to racism (and notice how the targets have been growing ever larger? Not just Tamils now, but Muslims and Christians), continue to fracture the country along ethnic lines to maintain their grip on power.

reasonablytreasonable said...

Sujeewa kokawala,

"Now Echolalia, you stated that you guys keep on refering to Mahawamsa as some ppl [like JHU] do so. Every govt has a right wing component, but the entire govt is not run on their vision."

No, not every government has a right wing component equivalent to the JHU.

Many countries have far-right wing parties, like the JHU, that is true. But only in countries that are culturally stagnant do parties like JHU actually join the government. You don't see the BNP in power in England, or Le Pen in France (though he did come close), or Buchanan in America.

"Even Pauline Hanson of Australia's OneNation party previously contested under the national party which is a key member of Howard administration. Just because of this Howard is not regarded as a die-hard racist"

Pauline Hanson did not contest under the national party, she originally was going to contest under the Liberal Party, but then she was expelled from the party. Do you know why? Because of racist comments she made to Aboriginals! Your point defeats itself. If Sri Lanka's political parties lived up to the same principle (i.e. expelling everyone who makes a racist comment), it would be a virtually empty parliament house. Its government certainly wouldn't have the largest cabinet in the world, that's for sure!

"Compare this with Diasporah. Like drug addicts they keep on spreading their myth and mostly they are racist. We have 3% racists, diasporah has ~80%."

I do not think ordinary Sinhalese people are racist. I think their leaders appeal to racism to create a climate of fear and suspicion, while they siphon the country's wealth to their personal bank accounts and those of their buddies.

reasonablytreasonable said...

Ninja,

"SL is a democracy and its different to LTTE's eezhaam fantasy. A newspaper asked a question from GenSF and he gave an answer. Thus it is his personal view and part of the freedom of expression. And, other people's criticisms and the criticisms of those criticisms also part of the freedom of expression."

Earlier, you tried to defend Fonseka's comments. After I posted his words in their entirety, and exposed them as racist, you've changed your tune - no longer are you defending the words themselves, but his right to say them!

No one is denying Fonseka his freedom of speech. If he thinks of Tamils as "they" and Sinhalese as "us", that is perfectly up to him.

Just don't expect "them" (minorities) to feel very proud of their country, knowing that their most senior leaders think of them as just passing visitors.

"Did you find anything wrong in any of VP's or other LTTE leaders statements? (Well, VP's one and only annual talk is written by someone else.) OR did you find anything wrong with what LTTE do so far? (For example killing civilians in suicide bombings.) If so let us know."

I find plenty of things wrong with Prabakharan's statements. If this was a blog full of Tiger supporters, maybe I'd spend more time talking about them.

"It seems you expect GSL/SLA/SLDF to be 100% correct according to all the standards in this world. Zero collateral damages. Can you tell us what kind of ‘standard’ you expect from LTTE?"

I don't expect anything from either the GoSL or LTTE, other than the same things we have seen since independence. Dead-end nationalism, unapologetic corruption, gross human and civil rights violations, economic recklessness.

hemantha said...

"Berty should be one of the prime suspects in the killing of both the General and Dr. Pulle."

LTTE now is selling suicide bombers. It looks like Berty has bought a one (or two if it was a 'buy one get one free' deal, according to an LNP comment).

Infinity said...

echolalia,

***Dictatorship of Elam/LTTE***
*Dictatorship
*Ethnically cleansed
*No free press
*No freedom of speech
*No freedom of movement
*No freedom of assembly
*No elections
*One party
*All tamils expressing dissenting views systematically assassinated
*Attacks civilians in order to to create ethnic hatred
*Racist ideology and racist education of the population
*Forced conscription and use of torture against deserters
*Child soldiers
*Use of civilians as human shields
*Numerous large scale criminal activities in other nations - and then demanding that the same nations should support the LTTE and reward its leader with a personal dictatorship
*No control or insight of any kind of where collected funds go - so safe to assume a large scale corruption at many stages and very large personal Swiss Bank accounts for LTTE leaders inside and outside Sri Lanka and their relatives and cronies
*Recognized as a terrorist group in large parts of the world
*VP wants his son to follow him as dictator so his people/serfs can live under such glorious conditions forever

***Sri Lanka***
*Elected government and president
*Numerous political parties with very different views
*Freedom of speech
*Freedom of assembly
*Freedom of movement
*Regular elections
*Numerous ethnic groups living together
*Numerous newspapers expressing very different views often criticizing the government- like the Sunday Leader frequently quoted by the pro-LTTE websites
*Volunteer army
*Attacks military targets
*Many development projects, local elections resulting in democratic Tamil leaders, and settlement of almost all IDPs in the East
*Internationally recognized state
*Support or no serious condemnations from almost all other governments

Jambudipa said...

hemantha,

You know it was a suicide bomb even before coroners report has finalised? How come? The report is to be released under the jurisdiction of your uncle Berty as well. Can this be believed considering he has already interfered with the investigation?

Every time there is a crook you jump in championing their cause. Why is that? Dumb questions also. What is wrong with you buddy?

Bhairav said...

Now, there is this BHairav Zakkiliya, "Ado Punde" you don't know anything about Zakkili brain, they do all sort of cheating to pass exams, my room mate from Velvetithurei told me how they used to cheat on multiple questions in physics and chemistry with marked ruler passing around.

Still the bugger could not get a good pass but ordinary pass in his degree. I was the one who teach him how to do maths most of the time, you basterd.


It tells that you are one dimensional fuck up. For your info, at least, 50% of the students in University cheat directly or indirectly in their lab works/exams etc. Being just consumer of degrees and diplomas won't define for who you are, it's all about how to use your knowledge in the real world.

No wonder you are another fucked up typical Lankan boy.

reasonablytreasonable said...

Infinity,

I don't see the point of your post? You've listed all the bad things you can think of about the LTTE, and listed all the good things you can think about the state of Sri Lanka.

Since I have no reason to defend the LTTE, I do not see any reason to refute the statements you made about them.

As for the points about the government of Sri Lanka, almost all of these are either falsifications or simplifications.

Let's examine each.

*Elected government and president

The voting irregularities that characterise almost every election in Sri Lanka are well documented. These have been particularly nasty in recent times, especially in the Eastern Province election (voter intimidation was documented by independent groups like People's Action for Free and Fair Elections)

*Numerous political parties with very different views

Though if they voice those views, there is always the threat of death or disappearance.

*Freedom of speech

See above. If there is freedom of speech, why did the government ban the anti-war film Pura Handa Kaluwara?

*Freedom of assembly

See above. This is a particularly ridiculous given the frequent emergency decrees and curfews that are announced, especially in Tamil areas, which prohibit any freedom of assembly.

*Freedom of movement

See above.

*Regular elections

Regular is different from fair.

*Numerous ethnic groups living together

But remember, "this country belongs to the Sinhalese"!

*Numerous newspapers expressing very different views often criticizing the government- like the Sunday Leader frequently quoted by the pro-LTTE websites

Half of these papers get censored beyond coherence at the whim of the government. Have you picked up the Sunday Leader during a censorship period? It's a criminal waste of paper, you can't read half the thing for all the 'CENSORED' labels plastered over it.

*Volunteer army

The Karuna group, which now works for the SL government, forcibly recruits children. Even the US State Department notes this, and the US is an ally of SL.

*Attacks military targets

It also attacks non-military targets, like orphanages, and it abducts and kills unarmed civilians who have not been convicted of any crime.

*Many development projects, local elections resulting in democratic Tamil leaders, and settlement of almost all IDPs in the East

You mean like Karuna and Pillayan, who forcibly recruits children?

*Internationally recognized state

So was Cambodia under Pol Pot, so what?

*Support or no serious condemnations from almost all other governments

That's not true. Sri Lanka's human rights record has been severely criticised by the US and European countries. In fact, SL lost its membership of the UN Human Rights Commission despite spending millions of dollars lobbying to retain a seat, because of its human rights violations.

Moreover, the EU threatens to withdraw lucrative garment trade concessions to Sri Lanka on the grounds that the government is breaching UN conventions, particularly those related to human rights.

Ruslan said...

echolalia,

Mate mind if i ask you to point out the sources where you find for those clarification of yours.. :)) that's a huge list of accusations isn't it?

Ruslan said...

don't you think when criticizers pointing finger to us (SL).. there are more fingers directing to themselves.. Like US.. i mean they got wonderful Human rights records do they? just .50 Cents.. :))

hemantha said...

Panhinda,
I did not ask any questions from you. You were the one who was asking questions. This is a one of them.

"You know it was a suicide bomb even before coroners report has finalised?"
I heard many I witnesses speak. Who were closer to Janaka. Some of them are injured. I believe them.

Then you say "Dumb questions also".
I completely agree with you.

Every time LTTE pigs kill a politician dumb asses in the south try to place the blame on political opponents. LTTE always used the friction between political parties to make chaos in the south. They kills one, the idiots among the followers of who killed blame the other party. The result: Political chaos. The best example is the Athulathmudali Murder. LTTE killed him and ruined the life of Pr. Premadasa, first politically and then physically (when he put his guard down).

"Every time there is a crook you jump in championing their cause."

This is a dumb comment. You must be referring to the one comment I made about Jayasundara, while discussing the chief Justice. You generalize it to "every time". In that comment also I didn't champion his cause. I clearly said that he should be punished including all the other crooks. Please read the comment again. If you still can't find (or understand) let me know. I will guide you through.

reasonablytreasonable said...

ruslan,

Are there any particular facts or accusations which you would like me to provide evidence for? I am happy to do so, because I take the veracity of information very seriously.

If you want evidence of systemic human rights violations (by both the Sri Lankan government and the LTTE), a good place to start would be this 2007 HRW report on Sri Lanka: http://hrw.org/reports/2007/srilanka0807/

Before you cry 'bias', note that HRW is a well-respected independent group, and they heavily critcise both the LTTE and the government.

"don't you think when criticizers pointing finger to us (SL).. there are more fingers directing to themselves.. Like US.. i mean they got wonderful Human rights records do they? just .50 Cents.."

Amnesty International and Human Rights Watch are not hypocrites. These are independent non-governmental organisations that, and to my knowledge, no one has ever accused them of systemic human rights violations. On the contrary, people who work for those groups risk their lives every day to report on the truth.

I agree with you that the US is definitely itself a routine violator of human rights violations. The reason I cited the US State Department is because the US government is a friend of Sri Lanka, so no one can claim that they are being 'biased' against the Sri Lankan government.

Simple question: Why would Sri Lanka's own friend accuse it of human rights violations, if those violations are not true?

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PHANTOM-X said...

echolalia...

NGO's don't want an end to this war. Because of this bloody war they get all the dollers. it's a business...

Infinity said...

***Dictatorship of Elam/LTTE***
*Dictatorship
*Ethnically cleansed
*No free press
*No freedom of speech
*No freedom of movement
*No freedom of assembly
*No elections
*One party
*All tamils expressing dissenting views systematically assassinated
*Attacks civilians in order to to create ethnic hatred
*Racist ideology and racist education of the population
*Forced conscription and use of torture against deserters
*Child soldiers
*Use of civilians as human shields
*Numerous large scale criminal activities in other nations - and then demanding that the same nations should support the LTTE and reward its leader with a personal dictatorship
*No control or insight of any kind of where collected funds go - so safe to assume a large scale corruption at many stages and very large personal Swiss Bank accounts for LTTE leaders inside and outside Sri Lanka and their relatives and cronies
*Recognized as a terrorist group in large parts of the world
*VP wants his son to follow him as dictator so his people/serfs can live under such glorious conditions forever

http://www.defence.lk/pps/waragainst.pdf
http://www.defence.lk/pps/LTTEinbrief.pdf
http://www.fbi.gov/page2/jan08/tamil_tigers011008.html

***Sri Lanka***
*Elected government and president with regular elections.
*Numerous political parties with very different views. Just look at the different websites of the parties, including that of the TNA.
*Freedom of expression
*Freedom of assembly
*Freedom of movement
*Numerous ethnic groups living together
*Numerous newspapers expressing very different views often criticizing the government- like the Sunday Leader frequently quoted by the pro-LTTE websites
*Volunteer army
*Attacks military targets
*Many development projects, local elections resulting in democratic Tamil leaders, and settlement of almost all IDPs in the East
*Internationally recognized state
*Support or no serious condemnations from almost all other governments. Give a source for a government seriously condemning Sri Lanka if claiming otherwise.

We can look at the widely respected Polity ranking which gives a score from -10 to 10: 6. http://www.systemicpeace.org/polity/SriLanka2006.pdf

Or we can look at Freedom House's evaluation. 4 out of 7 for both political and and civil liberties. So can certainly be improved but better than many other developing nations. "Elections are open to multiple parties, and fair electoral laws and equal campaigning opportunities ensure a competitive political process. While elections are generally free and fair, they continue to be marred by some irregularities, violence, and intimidation, and the LTTE generally refuses to allow free elections in areas under its control. The independent Center for Monitoring Election Violence reported that the 2004 parliamentary elections were considerably less beleaguered by violence and malpractice than previous polls. The European Union’s Election Observation Mission noted that the 2005 presidential vote proceeded fairly smoothly in the south, despite some inappropriate use of state resources and biased reporting by both state-run and private media outlets. However, voting in the north was suppressed by the LTTE, which enforced a boycott through acts of violence including grenade attacks on polling stations and the buses intended to carry voters into government-controlled territory." http://www.freedomhouse.org/template.cfm?page=22&year=2008&country=7493

PHANTOM-X said...

echolalia...

so many people died and got arrested in 1989-1991...were they sleeping (NGO's)...??

PHANTOM-X said...

echolalia...

This echolalia is very shrewd. He shows the badder side of third world countries. according to him Sri Lanka is the only corrupted country in the whole world. so he highlights Sri Lanka. and goes on to become the saviour of NGO's.

ane huke apath nathe...ponnainta thanak nathe...!!! get a life you parasite...!!!

PHANTOM-X said...

ecolalia....

where are you...???

here doggy...here doggy....go go go...fetch that bone....quickly....

ha ha ha....hooooo hoooo...

Ruslan said...

Human Rights Watch!!!.. Lol.. Get A Life Pal.. Lol.. Amnesty International and Human Rights Watch are not hypocrites That explains alot.. i've got No words for you.. :))

Sam Perera said...

All,

While we are proud of our respective ethnic heritages, we should look beyond our past to build a new Sri Lanka identity. We should consider us to be Sri Lankans first and then what ever our ethnic origin.
This is another great step to bring all communities together. Give our best help to the heroic youth from the Eastern Province to be a part of this historical war against LTTE terror and to reinforce our Sri Lankan identity, yes just like our cricket team does.

Anonymous said...

echolalia

Fonseka said: "I strongly believe that this country belongs to the Sinhalese but there are minority communities and we treat them like our people. We being the majority of the country, 75%, we will never give in and we have the right to protect this country. We are also a strong nation. They can live in this country with us. But they must not try to, under the pretext of being a minority, demand undue things."

You said //Earlier, you tried to defend Fonseka's comments. After I posted his words in their entirety, and exposed them as racist, you've changed your tune - no longer are you defending the words themselves, but his right to say them!//

Here is my opinion about SF's statement; I said the same thing while ago in DN.

1) If SF didn't make that statement it is much better at this time unless he plans on a military government or something, which is highly unlikely. It is usual in SL media to change things in such way their customers like to listen and publish. Most of media reported this as "SF said SL belongs to sinhalese only" and UNP and others tried to score on this manipulated version.

I don't have any problem with his statement, its his personal view and I don't see any anti-tamil thing there. My worry was this kind of sensitive statement gives a chance to the enemy to manipulate or interpret it to their advantage.

2) We always say SL is a country for all sinhala, tamil, muslim people, We all live here as a Sri Lnkaan nation like members in a single family etc. This is GSL official stand. But the reality is different. In reality an influential section of the society think in lines of races (sinhala / tamil). (eg. LTTE) Otherwise how come a 30 years’ war? SF's statement reflects this current reality. While GSL stand reflects our future. 2mn tamils living in SL is also a reality and they are going to be here with 18mn sinhalese. Thus we have to find a way in integrate every one into sri Lankan nation. Recruiting eastern karuna cadres is a good start. Long way to go.

I hope this makes things clear for you.

Anonymous said...

Hemantha

//Every time LTTE pigs kill a politician dumb asses in the south try to place the blame on political opponents. LTTE always used the friction between political parties to make chaos in the south. They kills one, the idiots among the followers of who killed blame the other party. The result: Political chaos. The best example is the Athulathmudali Murder. LTTE killed him and ruined the life of Pr. Premadasa, first politically and then physically (when he put his guard down).//

You are right but it is more than you said. SLA is a subsection of SL socity which is divided in party politics. So when LTTE killed an SLA officer who is known as loyal to one party and the same party blame opposing party this efect go insida SLA as well. I think LTTE expect to popup opppertunities due to this divisions in SLA.

Our party loyalness is too stronger than the bond to sinhala nation. I guess if LTTE decided to fight just against one party UNP,JVP or SLFP, one way or the other this war is over long ago.

Jaya2008 said...

See how they appreciate the food provided by the Government for IDP families.What would have happened, if the explosives were not detected? They sent food with explosives. What a bunch of loosers.


Part of the article appeared on Tamilnet:

http://www.tamilnet.com/art.html?catid=13&artid=27157

Each IDP family is given only half a litre of coconut oil in their ration in addition to rice for 7 days, dhal for 5 days and flour for 4 days. Sugar has not been supplied for 3 months. There were lorries with sugar in the last convoy of humanitarian supplies, but they were among 9 of 60 lorries which were not allowed to cross into Vanni after a controversial 'discovery' of explosive in one of the vehicles. It was believed to be a sabotage to block humanitarian supplies, local humanitarian workers at Ka'ndaava'lai division said.

reasonablytreasonable said...

phantom-x,

Before I address your points, I will point out that you have been unable to invalidate ANY statement I made. Nor has anyone else. Instead you've resorted to name-calling.

"we all know that you are batting for the LTTE. "LTTE Pimpiya" is the correct word...
you are here for a purpose...that is to discredit our motherland."

Nice work with the name calling ("pimpiya"), but you can't win an argument by calling people names.

I am not batting for the LTTE - show me one statement where I have expressed my support for the nationalist goals of the LTTE or its methods. I have never done so.

You seem to think anyone critical of the SL government is, by definition, pro-LTTE. This is a dangerous position and helps explain why so many innocent civilians are being carted away to their deaths in Sri Lanka. It also exposes how illogical your thought patterns are.

"If you take all the Asain third world countries like India, Bangladesh, Pakistan, Vietnam, etc the situation is almost the same...no big deal...so why r u highlighting Sri Lanka...???"

You're not seriously asking me that question are you? You want to know why I am highlighting Sri Lanka? Maybe...it might have something to do with the fact...that....THIS IS A SRI LANKAN BLOG?

Yes, those other countries have human rights violations too. That does not mean it is "no big deal".

In actual fact, Sri Lanka's human rights violations are worse than the country's you named as of now, mainly because the war in Sri Lanka is far greater in intensity than any conflict in India, Pakistan or Vietnam. Though if you look at Kashmir, for instance, there are significant violations.

"NGO's don't want an end to this war. Because of this bloody war they get all the dollers. it's a business..."

Amnesty International and Human Rights Watch are NOT aid organisations. They are non-profit human rights advocates - i.e. they do not make money out of war, so your statement is blatantly untrue and (again) illogical.

The people who DO make money out of war are the arms manufacturerers, and the military-industrial complex in Sri Lanka. THEY are the ones who have an interest in prolonging the war - they (unlike AI and HRW) actually do make big profits.

They also do not risk their lives, as they are far from the battlefield. The people who work for AI, HRW (+ aid organisations) daily put their lives in danger, because they work in the most dangerous parts of the country.

"so many people died and got arrested in 1989-1991...were they sleeping (NGO's)...??"

No, they were not sleeping. The violations to which you refer were recorded by AI.

Some of them are highlighted in this document (just search for '1990'):http://www.amnestyusa.org/document.php?lang=e&id=ENGASA370012008

Notice how an entire section of that report is devoted to criticising the LTTE's violations.

"This echolalia is very shrewd. He shows the badder side of third world countries. according to him Sri Lanka is the only corrupted country in the whole world."

I never ever said Sri Lanka is the only corrupt country in the whole world. It is an especially BAD country in terms of human rights violations - it is one of the worst in the world. For instance, it has the highest or 2nd highest number of disappeared people (raw number, not just per capita), and it is the 3rd most dangerous country in the world for journalists to live in. Amongst other things.

reasonablytreasonable said...

Ruslan,

"Human Rights Watch!!!.. Lol.. Get A Life Pal.. Lol.. Amnesty International and Human Rights Watch are not hypocrites That explains alot.. i've got No words for you.. :))"

I'm not surprised you have "no words" for me. Like phantom-x, you are unable to invalidate or deny any of the FACTS I have presented for you, compiled by independent, non-politically alligned groups that operate on the ground.

You call AI and HRW hypocrites, without providing any evidence. I would suggest this is because you can't find any. Perhaps you think they are hypocrites because you think they only criticise the SL government, and not the LTTE? False. They criticise both groups heavily.

reasonablytreasonable said...

ninja,

"I don't have any problem with his statement, its his personal view and I don't see any anti-tamil thing there. My worry was this kind of sensitive statement gives a chance to the enemy to manipulate or interpret it to their advantage."

I don't see how you cannot see the anti-minority perspective of Fonseka's words. He says "this country belongs to the Sinhalese", then refers "they" (i.e. minorities), making it clear that he meant that the country belongs to the Sinhalese exclusively. If he meant that "this country belongs to the Sinhalese" + Tamils and + Muslims, be wouldn't have made the reference to "we" and "they" in the subsequent clauses.

But we'll have to agree to disagree on that one.

"We always say SL is a country for all sinhala, tamil, muslim people, We all live here as a Sri Lnkaan nation like members in a single family etc. This is GSL official stand. But the reality is different."

It is the reality that is important, not the 'ideal' situation that only exists in people's minds.


"In reality an influential section of the society think in lines of races (sinhala / tamil). (eg. LTTE) Otherwise how come a 30 years’ war? SF's statement reflects this current reality. While GSL stand reflects our future."

Why do you separate Fonseka's stand from the GSL's stand? First of all, Fonseka is an integral part of the government. Secondly, there are far more extreme elements in the GSL than Fonseka, like the JHU ad JVP elements. How can the GSL reflect the non-racialist future, if it is, and always has been, stacked with racists

hemantha said...

Ninja,
I really hope this shitty behavior does not leak in to the Army.

hemantha said...

Tigers have only to attack;
others will defend them
-The Island

http://www.island.lk/2008/10/11/features5.html

hemantha said...

Know thy enemy and act accordingly
-Editorial (The Island)

click here

Moshe Dyan said...

"Tigers have only to attack;
others will defend them"


very well said!

hemantha, thanks for the link.

panhinda,

killing JCP by LTTE is like killing rajiv by them. rajiv was killed AFTER the IPKF had left!!!

for most time after 2001 JCP was abroad and LTTE had no chance. they grabbed the small opening.

your claim that there was NO police protection is WRONG. there was an article in lankaguardian with the NAMES of police offices and NUMBERS doing duting from 6 AM!!! it was by a retired colonel from kandy recently.

Anonymous said...

echolalia

I think I made my point clear in the earlier post. I don't find any thing wrong in SF statement except he giving enemy the chance to mis-interpreting it.

Let me repeat.
1. SL belongs to sinhalese. I agree. (This is my belief based on what I have learned regarding our history in my life. If one proves it is tamils who build SL and not sinhalese in last 2500 years, I am happy to see that evidence.)
2. Other citizens (tamils/muslims) can stay here. I agree.
3. Minority should not make unfair demands. I agree.
Now we live here in this reality.

4. We need to work towards living all sinhala tamil people together in SL.
This is we should go in future.

SF is one officer and he will go home after some time and it is the SL (legal) system / constitution what matters as it decides the way. That's why some parties demand changes to that. I don't know why you bother this much about a single sentence.

//It is the reality that is important, not the 'ideal' situation that only exists in people's minds.//

Finally, I am sorry to say this to you. How many statements MR/GR/SF previous and current politicians have made regarding the conflict? What makes you think single sentence of SF undo everything else. Isn’t it much better analyze the whole thing in recent political history together with practical actions? (Think, making a statement of saying Pilliyan can be CM and he is really being the CM very different. Isn't it?)

Now if you believe your own words tell me; disregard everything relates to one party which is the LTTE and analyze everything relate to the other party in a two party conflict. So does this your method close to reality in SL OR 'some ideal' situation that only exists in your mind?

//Why do you separate Fonseka's stand from the GSL's stand? First of all, Fonseka is an integral part of the government. Secondly, there are far more extreme elements in the GSL than Fonseka, like the JHU ad JVP elements. How can the GSL reflect the non-racialist future, if it is, and always has been, stacked with racists//

1. What SF said was his personal view, he later said so and GSL also said so. So why do you believe SF and GSL have same stand when both parties said it is not? You are free to believe what you like but I am not able to fix your believes.
2. I don't know your definition for racist or extremist. But I am pretty sure the hindrance to political solution, peace, ethnic harmony and integrity is NOT JHU or JVP when you consider LTTE factor. (But unfortunately LTTE is out of your method of analyzing.)

Anonymous said...

Hemantha

//I really hope this shitty behavior does not leak in to the Army.//

That's every one's hope (may be except UNPs). As SLA is supposed to have some 'dicipline'.

TropicalStorm said...

echolalia

You preach from a self-appointed authority indicating some form of superiority of these so called 'human rights' outfits when they dictate terms to nations like SL. The problem average joe has with them is that these organizations have proven to be just hooting hyenas, living off the fat of the land. They do nothing other than criticize one and then the other, but not those who have teeth to bite them.

The way these guys approach and try to dictate to third world countries and how they mumble some apologetic whines to countries like the US show quite clearly who they are. I can prove this to you first hand. Please do come see me, I will water-board you and let's see if your human rights buddies will do much for you.

SL needs to deal hard with these sordid bastards. Chandrika did once, when she kicked out the ICRC ragtag mafia that tried to play funky games with her. They came back begging to be let in, and behaved themselves ever since.

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hemantha,

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The best example is the Athulathmudali Murder. LTTE killed him and ruined the life of Pr. Premadasa, first politically and then physically (when he put his guard down).

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The journalist who took a photo of Premadasa's wife showing knickers while plying tennis vanished nowhere to be seen. Many allege the man was killed by Premadasa. Many allege he had a hand in other killings as well over petty personal issues. Most had nothing to do with national security.

When Athulathmudali was murdered, quite naturally Premadasa becomes a suspect. He became a suspect not because of 'southern political opponent want to create friction', but purely because of the style and quality of his governance. Had he been an upright statesman, these allegations would have never been made. LTTE would have been exposed alone naked as agents of terror.

Similarly, Berty had just burnt down the house of a member of the opposition. Had Berty been punished, LTTE would not have any grounds to exploit the situation and the General will perhaps be still among the living. Now imagine some other VIP gets assassinated in Anuradapura. Who will it be this time? Would the suspect be Berty or LTTE? If the law-and-order prevailed, and Berty was jailed, only LTTE would have become suspects. But as it is now, you will always have people questioning who killed whom. Berty, Mervin and others thugs like him makes the government and the country weak in the face of terrorism. Why do you want to keep them there?

As I said to you previously, LTTE exploits the fallibility of the system of governance and flaws in law-and-order to their advantage. The 'chaos in the south' will disappear when there is rule of law and good governance. The executive is partially responsible for the Generals death because he nominated a known thug to an important position against the advise of many.

It looks like its me who has to guide you through this complexity.

Ruslan said...

Guess someone wants to paint NGO beggars in a good color.. since they got a bad name every corner in the country.. echolalia, even if you stand by your head, the image NGO has now not gonna change in Sri Lanka.. so all your "Sweet Talks" will not gonna work in here pal. after this war there will be no INGOs in these Region.. so no more begging bowls for INGOs. so your "Human Rights Teachers" can try harder somewhere else in the world. :))

Louie Jacques said...





Dear all,

Many of U blamed me that, I’m doing party politics out of the death of JP. See what happened recently :

A helicopter was asked in order to transfer the remains of JP to Anurathapura. So without any issue Defence ministry officials agreed to that. Then MR and GR jump into the scene and stoped that with great pleasure. That is there are even angry with the remains of JP. What a shame !!!

I would like to recall an important even happened in 2000. There were a group of SLA round-up by LTTE. In order to safe them there was a need for a high profile officer … no one is ready to take that challenge including current army commander. Our JP is the only one who took that challenge and safe the soldiers.

For a person like him MR & GR treat like this !!!!!! Due to this JP’s remains waited in Galle Road for hours time…..

Everyone should understand that this is just a sample of “HOW MR and GR RESPECT OUR ARMED FORCES”

Louie Jacques said...


Note :

Hon. Min. Kehaliya Rambukwella's famili member using helicopters for the holiday visits !!!!!!!!!


wijayapala said...

Echolalia,

Allow me to congratulate you for not responding to trash-talk with trash.

"So let me get this right - you think agree that it is impossible to argue that 'minorities' have equal rights while claiming the country belongs to the Sinhalese, yet somehow it IS possible to support the head of the armed forces who clearly believes this to be the case? I admire the moral acrobatics it must take to maneuver yourself into such a stance."

I don't know what you mean by moral acrobatics. My support for Fonseka goes only as far as the war effort is concerned. If one believes that the only way to deal with the LTTE is to destroy it, then that same person cannot turn around and denounce the person who is best-suited for that task. I can only criticize actions of his that undermine that cause, such as those comments of his.

"Meanwhile, several important questions remain. For instance: why would such a prominent figure make such a provocative statement? Why does he believe this, and feel the need to publically make it known? What implications do such racist sentiments have for the future of 'minorities' in Sri Lanka?"

As Ninja pointed out, Fonseka is a soldier not a politician. He does not make calculated statements with ulterior motives. I take it at face value that he believes that Sri Lanka is the Sinhala homeland (as the basis of Sinhala nationalism always was, and will always be the immutable reality that there is no other place on Earth where the Sinhalese had been able to survive as a civilization). Therefore, a much better question to ask would be, "Why does Sarath Fonseka (and others like him) hold these beliefs?"

"I used "everyone" as a rhetorical device, aimed at the people like ninja, who were defending Fonseka's comments."

In that case you were not specific enough. Prabakaran's claim that the N-E exclusively belongs to the Tamils did NOT cause anyone outside Sri Lanka to "be up in arms."

"Au contraire, people all across (GoSL-controlled) Sri Lanka *do* have to worry about their safety if they denounce Fonseka and the war effort."

Yes, I know about Athas and Noyahr, and if you read my previous comments here and elsewhere you would know that I oppose the hate speech against him.

But Sri Lanka is still a democracy. There is still an opposition (which is floundering these days not through any design of the ruling powers, but due to its own incompetence and short-sightedness) and an option for people who oppose the current regime. This is where cheap efforts to equate the LTTE and the current GoSL fall flat.

"Sinhala-Buddhist nationalism arose as a dominant political force well before Tamil nationalism did. Tamil militancy and separatism was not an issue at the time the Sinhala Only Act, standardisation, or the 1972 constitution, were introduced, for instance."

And what is the cause of Sinhala-Buddhist nationalism (I sort of gave away the answer above, but I'm interested in hearing your answer)?

"The 1972 (or 1971? Might have the year wrong) constitution actually stated this: "the Republic of Sri Lanka shall give to Buddhism the foremost place and accordingly it shall be the duty of the state to protect and foster Buddhism"."

Neither the 1972 Constitution nor state-protected Buddhism created Tamil militancy. The Thangadurai group (of which Prabakaran was the youngest and one of the earliest members) traced back to 1969. Standardization in 1972 pushed the Jaffna youth towards "militancy" (Thamil Manavar Peravai) but the level of violence in those early days was quite low.

Prabakaran was not motivated by standardization as he was a high-school dropout. It is unlikely that he would've grasped the relevance of the 1972 Constitution as he was only 17 years old when it became the island's basic law. I leave it to you to explain where Thalaivar derived his sense of Tamil nationalism.

"Remember, this was all before Tamil nationalism and separatism had any significant political currency."

You have your history a little mixed but to an extent you're correct. Tamil nationalism became a major political force among Tamils after "Sinhala-Only" in 1956, although ITAK traced its origins back to 1949, well before the establishment of the Sinhala nationalist SLFP.

The first ethnically-based party in Sri Lanka was not Sinhala but Tamil.

"Tamil nationalism did not grow in a vacuum; it grew and gained mass support,"

That is fine, but the above does not sound very different from Sinhala nationalism.

"Why are these things important now? Because nothing fundamental has changed. Sri Lanka's rulers, bereft of any genuine way to garnish popular support other than populist appeals to racism"

How did Mahinda Rajapakse's presidential campaign feature racism?

"You don't see the BNP in power in England, or Le Pen in France (though he did come close), or Buchanan in America."

Sri Lanka's proportional representation system ensures that no party can come to power without a coalition. For example, Ranil Wickremasinghe came to power in a coalition with the TNA, which was and is nothing but a mouthpiece of the LTTE. He could have rejected the TNA but he would have then only had a minority government.

"I do not think ordinary Sinhalese people are racist. I think their leaders appeal to racism to create a climate of fear and suspicion, while they siphon the country's wealth to their personal bank accounts and those of their buddies."

Correct that racism in Sri Lanka is mostly top-down, but there is a little more to the story. The leaders are able to get the people to go along because the leaders control access to resources. This is the same story in many developing nations where the people are in a dependent condition.

wijayapala said...

Ruslan,

"Human Rights Watch!!!.. Lol.. Get A Life Pal.. Lol.. Amnesty International and Human Rights Watch are not hypocrites That explains alot.. i've got No words for you.. :))"

Human Rights Watch exposed the LTTE's continuing use of child soldiers and murder of Tamil dissidents during the early ceasefire. It played a significant role in getting the LTTE banned in the EU (our Foreign Ministry by contrast played next to no role).

reasonablytreasonable said...

ninja,

When you say that "SL belongs to the Sinhalese", what exactly do you mean?

If you mean Sinhalese are the original inhabitants, we both know that is not true, since the Veddhas lived on the island before anyone else. Does that mean the country belongs to the Veddhas?

Most standard historical textbooks (the ones not written by extremist Tamils or extremist Sinhalese) note that Tamils and Sinhalese have had a long (2000+ year) history on the island of Sri Lanka. For instance, the following type of statement is common to find in most official encyclopedias: "Indo-Aryan emigration from India in the 5th century B.C. came to form the largest ethnic group on Sri Lanka today, the Sinhalese. Tamils, the second-largest ethnic group on the island, were originally from the Tamil region of India and emigrated between the 3rd century B.C. and A.D. 1200." (source: http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0107992.html)

The article goes on to state that "Sinhalese and Tamil rulers fought for dominance over the island. The Tamils, primarily Hindus, claimed the northern section of the island and the Sinhalese, who are predominantly Buddhist, controlled the south."

So it is clear that both Sinhalese and Tamils have had a very long presence on the island. There is ample archaeological evidence that each group made a substantial contribution to culture and economics in various parts of the country.

At most, it is possible that the first Sinhalese arrived 200 years before the first Tamils, though this is very difficult to establish historically, and is flimsy grounds for saying the country 'belongs' to the Sinhalese.

The reason I take Fonseka's statement seriously, is because it is not an isolated remark, but part of a pattern of racial supremacism that has arisen in mainstream Sri Lankan politics, especially with the advent of the JHU, which is a partner in government.

You ask an important question: "Isn’t it much better analyze the whole thing in recent political history together with practical actions?"

I agree with you; statements are important, but real facts are even more important. I do not think the facts on the ground for Tamils (or Sinhalese, for that matter) are improving, but instead they are getting worse. Random arrests, disappearances, impromptu curfews, crackdowns on political dissent are just some examples. These are not just my opinions, but the opinion of the US State Department, HRW, AI and many other organisations.

Also, if things are improving on the ground, then you would expect racist parties to get less support, not more support, right? Then why is JHU and JVP support rising, not falling?

Making Pillayan Chief Minister does not contribute anything. Since the Eastern elections were a sham (according to independent election monitors), it is hard to know whether he has popular support. I suspect he does not, since his group forcibly recruits children (according to the US government), and is involved in the white van abductions.

It is a common tactic for governments to pick and choose leaders of their liking to run certain parts of the country. Like the Chinese minister for Tibet is actually an ethnic Tibetan, but he approved the Chinese military crackdown in Tibet earlier this year, and is enormously unpopular.

There are 2 reasosn I've focused on SL government violations and not those of the LTTE. Firstly, this is a pro-government blog, so there is no point preaching to the converted. Secondly, I believe that the historic rise of Tamil nationalism was a reaction (albeit a naive one) to the systematic racism built within the Sri Lankan state. As I have argued, that racism still exists. So it follows that even if the LTTE were defeated, those racist practices would continue (since they were already there before the LTTE was even created!)

Louie Jacques said...

echolalia,

I do agree ur argument to a certen degree

Bhairav said...

[As Ninja pointed out, Fonseka is a soldier not a politician. He does not make calculated statements with ulterior motives. I take it at face value that he believes that Sri Lanka is the Sinhala homeland]

Hitler said Aryans were the best, many followed him to prove his idiocy, and one Rwandan prominent Hutu religious leader said in early 90s that Tutsies are cockroaches and put where it belongs- 1M+ heads rolled within 6 month period. SF, the commandeer of 250,000+ Srilankan armed forces, says that Srilanka is Sinhala nation- if a person like SF who is in a prominent position can say just like that, how many of his colleagues and his soldiers will echo his same tone? If he does not know what is off limits to him regardless of what heart says to him, he should not be in a position he is in now. How many of the Sinhala village boys have been brainwashed by his comments are unknown.

One thing is clear to Tamils that if SF can claim as what he said, then most of the lesser known Sinhala village boys will echo the same tone as they clearly will engage in atrocities against innocent Tamils in the remote Tamil villages.

Wijayapala, you have just become a proven idiot by defending SF's stand.

Bhairav said...

Many times I told you here that Sinhalese have mood swing problems in their genetics. They will call you as friend today, tomorrow they will chop your heads in your bed.

History said...

I can go on to have a long winding arguments about who really own this country, whether Sinhala is a derivative of another language or anything else.. But seeing the kind of facts that most of you use to prove something it is obvious that we go nowhere.

One claimed that Sinhala Language was derivate from Hindu, his reasons for that were unbelievably childish, he said that he travel to many places in India and he found a city name Anuradhapura in India and blabla bla.. The type of confident he shown, made me feel not worth having any kind of rational argument with him about what he said..

There is another talking claim that Sinhalese came to Sri Lanka from India, the origin of Sinhala ethnic group is through Indo-Aryan, he is directly referring to some official encyclopedias.

The origin of the Sinhala language has been the subject of much controversy, and has lately provoked much debate. If you are in around Sri Lanka go and meet or talk to someone like Arisen Ahubudhu.. He is the living god on this subject, and then refers to other sources as well. That will surely put you in a better position to talk about all these..

Let’s put it this way, let’s forget the history for a second and let me ask you one question. Given that today 70% of Sri Lankan are Sinhalese, isn’t that the right and also the duty of Sinhalese (of Sri Lanka) or “Sinhalas” (of Sinhala) to lead and drive this nation in the right direction? Isn’t that what the Army commander said..

Please enlighten me, if I am wrong..

Bhairav said...

Day by day,DW is becoming a home of idiots, thanks to DW's wife who updates this blog lately with her glorifying stats of 38AA,38B,38C- more divisions, more brigades, more squadrons etc.

Bhairav said...

[Given that today 70% of Sri Lankan are Sinhalese, isn’t that the right and also the duty of Sinhalese (of Sri Lanka) or “Sinhalas” (of Sinhala) to lead and drive this nation in the right direction? Isn’t that what the Army commander said..]

Lets say 17M are Sinhalese, out of 17M, 1M is Middle East Sinhala sex workers, 250k youth are sex workers in Colombo, 15M hand to mouth society, then only you have 750k productive Sinhala citizen. Is it fair enough to say that Sinhalese are the only ones who should lead the country while 3M of other community productive folks are available?

Bhairav said...

history,

Just like some say frequency does not matter in sex but intensity, i would say quality matter, not the quantity when it comes to leadership of the country.

reasonablytreasonable said...

Wijayapala,

"I don't know what you mean by moral acrobatics. My support for Fonseka goes only as far as the war effort is concerned. If one believes that the only way to deal with the LTTE is to destroy it, then that same person cannot turn around and denounce the person who is best-suited for that task. I can only criticize actions of his that undermine that cause, such as those comments of his."

It seems we both agree that the LTTE, and Tamil militancy more generally, had its origins in legitimate Tamil grievances, vis a vis state discrimination.

It seems strange then that Fonseka, a proponent of that very chauvinistic outlook, could be the man best suited to ending the LTTE. Whilst theoretically, he may be capable of leading the army to seizing most or all LTTE-controlled territory (though this is not a sealed deal, like many seem to think), that is not the same as winning the war. Fonseka himself said in an interview that some level of insurgency could continue forever; this would not surprise me, if leaders of his ilk continue to alienate minorities with their comments and actions.

"As Ninja pointed out, Fonseka is a soldier not a politician. He does not make calculated statements with ulterior motives. I take it at face value that he believes that Sri Lanka is the Sinhala homeland (as the basis of Sinhala nationalism always was, and will always be the immutable reality that there is no other place on Earth where the Sinhalese had been able to survive as a civilization). Therefore, a much better question to ask would be, "Why does Sarath Fonseka (and others like him) hold these beliefs?"

He made the statements not in private, but to the foreign media. Unless the Sri Lankan government is incredibly naive politically, they would have briefed him beforehand on what face to present to the rest of the world. It is possible that he made the comments off the cuff (which is bad enough), but I should think unlikely, given the nature of the interview.

"In that case you were not specific enough. Prabakaran's claim that the N-E exclusively belongs to the Tamils did NOT cause anyone outside Sri Lanka to "be up in arms.""

I take it as assumed that Ninja, and others likeminded, are none too pleased that Prabhakaran claims that the NE belongs exclusively to Tamils, since they believe those areas "belong to the Sinhalese".

I did not mean they are literally up in arms, of course. I doubt most people posting here have ever held a gun in their life.

"But Sri Lanka is still a democracy. There is still an opposition (which is floundering these days not through any design of the ruling powers, but due to its own incompetence and short-sightedness) and an option for people who oppose the current regime. This is where cheap efforts to equate the LTTE and the current GoSL fall flat."

It is not just Athas and Noyahr, of course, but a huge speight of attacks that now make Sri Lanka the 3rd most dangerous country in the world for journalists. And, at the risk of sounding like a broken record, the country with one of the highest number of missing persons in the whole world. It is not just journalists who are targets of extrajudicial abductions and killings by the government forces and its lackeys, but civilians too.

Whether or not the level of political repression today disqualifies Sri Lanka from being considered a 'democracy', I do not know. Most southern areas probably resemble a typical South Indian democracy, but I certainly would not consider the Eastern Province elections as anything resembling democracy, characterised by they were by wholesale voter intimidation and fraud.

"And what is the cause of Sinhala-Buddhist nationalism (I sort of gave away the answer above, but I'm interested in hearing your answer)?"

When I talk about Sinhala-Buddhist nationalism, I am not referring to its mere existence. There have been, and probably always will be, small numbers of people adhering to those ideas. What I mean is the spread of these ideas across the mainstream, Buddhist revivalism, and the rise of the JVP and especially JHU.

I disagree with your explanation, if the following is an accurate summary: "the basis of Sinhala nationalism always was, and will always be the immutable reality that there is no other place on Earth where the Sinhalese had been able to survive as a civilization". This is an ahistorical position that fails to explain the definite origins of revivalism and Sinhala nationalism in the late 19th century. It took place as local capitalism expanded, and was led by political impulses from Buddhist monks (like Hikkaduwe Sri Sumangala) and laymen (most famously Dharmapala). In other words, it is no concidence that Sinhala-Buddhist nationalism was promulgated at a time when the Sinhala capitalist class was increasingly coming into its own, exemplified by their involvement in the anti-Muslim riots of 1915.

"Neither the 1972 Constitution nor state-protected Buddhism created Tamil militancy. The Thangadurai group (of which Prabakaran was the youngest and one of the earliest members) traced back to 1969. Standardization in 1972 pushed the Jaffna youth towards "militancy" (Thamil Manavar Peravai) but the level of violence in those early days was quite low."

It may not have "created" militancy, but it helped to give it an impetus and critical mass. Nationalist and lunatic fringe ideology always *exist*, they just don't always exist in *large enough numbers to really matter*. My point is that the rise of Sinhala-Buddhist nationalism and its close coupling with the Sri Lankan state, was the driving force behind disenhanting enough Tamils to drive the LTTE and others into the mainstream.

"Prabakaran was not motivated by standardization as he was a high-school dropout. It is unlikely that he would've grasped the relevance of the 1972 Constitution as he was only 17 years old when it became the island's basic law. I leave it to you to explain where Thalaivar derived his sense of Tamil nationalism."

I don't ascribe immense significance to Prabhakaran as an individual; here merely represents definite political currents. He may or may not have cared much about standardisation, but he would not have got very far if hundreds/thousands of Tamils who *were* effected by standardisation didn't flock to his arms. If Prabhakaran didn't exist, there would have been others in his place.

"How did Mahinda Rajapakse's presidential campaign feature racism?"

By forming an electoral pact with the JHU, an openly communalist outfit. This pact was not merely a theoretical one, but had definite implications for policy (an end to the ceasefire; abrogation of the government-LTTE agreement for joint administration of tsunami aid; rejection of federalism as the basis for any peace deal).

That he may not have been able to govern without forming that pact is hardly an excuse; that merely underscores the normalisation of communalism in Sri Lankan politics.

"Sri Lanka's proportional representation system ensures that no party can come to power without a coalition. For example, Ranil Wickremasinghe came to power in a coalition with the TNA, which was and is nothing but a mouthpiece of the LTTE. He could have rejected the TNA but he would have then only had a minority government."

The influence of the TNA on UNP politics was and is negligible, compared to the influence that the JHU has on the Rajapakse government (see above). I do not think any TNA members were appointed ministers (compare that to the JHU). The TNA influence was as negligible as the influence that groups like the EPDP had on the former PA government.

Since you accept that Sinhala-Buddhist nationalism was and continues to be a point straining the country's unity, why exactly do you think things will get better if the LTTE are defeated? As we both seem to accept, this nationalism owes itself to more deeply entrenched factors than the LTTE - it would follow that if the LTTE are defeated, they will simply be replaced by other Tamil militant groups, for the same reasons the LTTE emerged in the 1970s. A more likely scenario is that the LTTE will continue to fight indefinitely, blostered indefinitely by a steady recruit of Tamils angered by the SL government's policies, which stem from the entrenched ideas we have been discussing.

Bhairav said...

Ado echolalia,

By default, you are allowed to write two window full of comments in this blog. This rule is simply enforced to protect the sights of senior citizen , of them many have long sighted problems here, and they cannot afford to scroll back and forth the screen to read your garbage or value added contents.

reasonablytreasonable said...

tropicalstorm,

"You preach from a self-appointed authority indicating some form of superiority of these so called 'human rights' outfits when they dictate terms to nations like SL. The problem average joe has with them is that these organizations have proven to be just hooting hyenas, living off the fat of the land. They do nothing other than criticize one and then the other, but not those who have teeth to bite them."

I'm not sure what you're trying to say. I am not 'preaching', and I have no 'self-appointed authority'. I merely uphold the same standard of human rights, enshrined in the UN Declaration of Human Rights, which are inalienable, and to which the Sri Lankan government is signatory.

If you don't think the Sri Lankan government should adhere to human rights, that is fine. But then why is it a signatory?

Also, I hope you are aware that the international community does not look kindly on rights violators (see the examples I gave earlier about trade consequences with the EU, and Sri Lanka's loss of the prestigious human rights seat at the UN)

Incidently, if Sri Lanka loses its lucrative trade agreements with the EU, in today's economic climate, with 30% inflation in Sri Lanka, that would likely spell the the end of the current government. Unless it invokes an emergency decree, postpones elections and imposes dictatorial rule, which is possible.

"Please do come see me, I will water-board you and let's see if your human rights buddies will do much for you."

As much as I appreciate the offer, I'll have to decline.

Unknown said...

Has any one got any idea, where i can obtain the full version of the Mahinda's interview to the Al-Jazeera TV?

thanks

Bhairav said...

[Has any one got any idea, where i can obtain the full version of the Mahinda's interview to the Al-Jazeera TV?]

Real Sir,

If Mahinda did secretly videotaped his interview then shipped to Al-Jazeera TV just as what Alqaida leaders do, then it will take a week for mainstream audience to see the clip.

Unknown said...

Mate Bhairav!

thanks for the comment.

i watched it in bits and pieces. and i could not believe and stop laughing about his comments.

the DW community comment on anything and every thing the tamil media say, and no one commented on MR i/v.

may they also think it was a laughing matter.

Rana said...

Guys,

I remeber somebody said DW's wife has written last few postings. I tend to agree with him/her now.

May be DW is missing in action or got caught in a suicide bombing.

Or he has no access to real SLDF info.

Bhairav said...

[i watched it in bits and pieces. and i could not believe and stop laughing about his comments.]

Real,

He already has his Oscar award for his famous speech from the last Cambridge University meeting in London where he said failing to LTTE means world fails to global terrorism- maybe he borrowed few scripts from Bush whose buzz words are terrorism and WMD. I do not think MR will surprise anyone by making laugh in Al interview than what he did in Cambridge speech.

Moshe Dyan said...

"Deputy sea tiger leader killed"

a fitting tribute to janaka

Rana said...

"Deputy sea tiger leader killed"

true SL, from where you got this info. I see it in your own site not anywhere else. Please post more details ASAP with your source.

perein said...

Rana-
Here we go...
http://defencenet.blogspot.com/

Rana said...

Pererain,

Thanks buddy, I got it. I will put it here for others:

DN reports,
Out of all the units in the Sri Lanka Army, the LTTE perhaps fear the Long Range Reconnaissance Patrol (LRRP) the most. Their fears were renewed today when LRRP took a price target deep inside LTTE held Wanni. The target was the deputy leader of the sea tigers, Chelian. Chelian and two others are believed to have been killed when the double cab they were travelling in was blown up in a roadside claymore explosion. The incident occurred today at 6.30AM, deep inside LTTE held territory in Mullaithivu.

Chelian once commanded the sea tigers at a time when Soosei was critically injured due to an explosion.

londonistan said...

bhairav,

'...last Cambridge University meeting in London...'

Hm.. not very good geographical awareness there tubby.

Bhairav said...

[Hm.. not very good geographical awareness there tubby]

Londonistan,

ok, it is Oxford.

perein said...

DW-

Aware of the current media silent due to well wanted activities, could you please start a new thread with some bulletin.

Bhairav said...

[Aware of the current media silent due to well wanted activities, could you please start a new thread with some bulletin.]

Perein witch,

Why do you want bulletin? It's not a weather report buddy.

perein said...

Or Bhairav-
What's happening to you recently... I thought you have bit more common sence than any of others out of
Shyam and Peter, Kuttu....
Please do n't let your self down, think wide as usually does.

Let's help poor dieing LTTE to give up the terror and have a life...

Infinity said...

echolalia, I am sorry to see that you just apparently read, believe, and quote pro-LTTE lies from propaganda sources such as Tamilnet without checking the facts yourself.

Paffrel on the Eastern Provinical Council Election: "Conclusions: Despite the shortcomings of the election and relatively low participation of about 60 percent, these elections were important in that they represented for the first time the hopes and opinion of the people of the east through an electoral process that was confined to the Eastern Province alone. PAFFREL believes that having elections in the east, although flawed, can be an important step towards empowering the people in the province to democratically determine their future."
http://www.paffrel.lk/pdf/paffrel_interim_report_10_may_08.pdf

However, more important than such local Sri Lankan monitoring groups which can be influenced or threatened by various parties are the statements by international monitors.

AAEA Observation Mission
"The 2008 Provincial Council Elections in the Eastern Province of Trincomallee, Batticalloa, and Ampara were conducted peacefully and in an orderly manner."
http://www.aaeasec.org/d_5.html

MayilRavana මයිල් රාවන said...

DW,
Your writing style is is very easy on the eye and entertaining and informative. Have you thought about publishing your collection after the War is over? With added subtext and explanatory notes of course.

History,
Agree wholeheartedly about your last comment bro. It may be interesting to followup on the current genographic data which demonstrates that most South Asians are descended from among 7 men (direct male descent) and from about 3 females (direct female descent). This makes sense as South Asians certainly look alike to others. Furthermore all languages in SA are related (including Tamil despits what the "Dravidians" might claim) and have scripts with a common ancestor. One thing we can be certain of though is that Sinhala is a langiuage indigenously evolved in SL.
And about Ravana being a Tamil emperor (Bull crap- show me reference to Tamil in ancient texts- the name was invented by Buddhists to describe those whom they despised). Then the real Modayas decided that they would take it up as their "racial title". Bro, the Genographic Project has demonstrated once and for all that there no races. So, I think it is time that we looked forward as you said and acknowledged the reality of today. Sinhala being the language of Sri Lanka and Sinhalas only becoming an ethnic group after the advent of the British. The rest are also cousins but may have male ancestors of relative recent migration (800 years). Many of us who are sinhalas also have such ancestors. It is important that Sri Lankans no matter what language they speak display allegiance to Unity of the one land. Any one else should be considered traitors or enemies. It does not matter whether they speak Sinhala or Tamil or follow Buddhism, Hinduism, Islam or Christianity.

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