3 waves of LTTE attackers were beaten all ends up by the Army's 58 Division today killing an LTTE 'Lieutenant Colonel' in the process as troops came dangerously close to Paranthan. The 'Lieutenant Colonel' trapped and killed by the SLA is thought to be from either Charles Anthony or Imran Pandian Reegiments. His body was taken away by the fleeing Tigers. Except for the leader's loss, the exact casualties to the LTTE in this fight is unknown at this point.
In the Kilinochchi front, the now fully breached L shaped curve of the LTTE's massive earth bund has become a staging area for SLA attacks on the LTTE's last major bastion Kilinochchi. Troops advancing from the western flank of Kilinochchi are around 5km away from the town center by today.
Troops were also 5km away from Mulaitivu Town, which is not very well fortified at the moment. As the 57 aand 58 Divisions held down the enemy, the 59 was able to creep up on the Tigers in Mulaitivu before an earth bund was built at Mullayaveli.
Thursday, December 25, 2008
Prolonging the inevitable unsuccessful today
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Last mile...yes..indeed....
I just felt a bit uneasy seeing the increased pora talks from our side (me included)......
I guess its a natural thing, to brag..but we shud not let that get too much to our heads...
VP email interview
# Any one knows VP's email ID? I also like to have a sinna interview. Ha Ha I didn't know sooriya thevan can read or write. Ha Ha
# I think Padesun or some loser did this.
# Few points;
1. "We get Indian centers support"
Firing Pottu can be part of such approach.
2. "Recent K'chi attack shows we are not weak"
So this was the main objective. Its important for any terror group to convince the world that they are not weak. So LTTE sacrificed thier hardcore elements just to get that few dead bodies => propaganda => not weak.
I found 3 jokes as well.
1. "We didn't do any terror attacks".
The other way of saying our cadres got caught. Fcuk those white vans.
2. "JanakaP was not killed by us"
LTTE way of saying 'we killed him'.
3. "Our air force operations was defensive"
Our ones too.. Ha Ha
http://www.srilankaguardian.org/2008/12/ltte-human-element-saves-srilankan-army.html
What you guys think of the content of this article?
LTTE is using captured POW to the max.
One thing that I don't understand is why SLA is sending new recruits to the Wanni battle after the basic training?
Is that the practice of every Army in the world?
190 killed in Israel attack
Al Jazeera version
AFP version
Vajira-
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If possible I will ask one of them to contact you as they have being in this blog for a long time.
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Please do not publish those info to public domain bro.
Ninja,
Time to time caputured locations need to get altered.
Those Kili info happened to be accurate at that point of the time.
This is not a game of Cricket or football. We need to avoid heavy casualties.
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Only for Modayas
mee yakka blog ekkake hadagenaa, harima karadarayake appita.
My Eelam dream
Where are the human rights activists, when innocent people are being killed in hundreds in indiscriminate attacks everywhere ?
Sri Lankan Air force is doing a wonderful job, while protecting the lives of innocent civilians.
This is the latest news from Gaza city:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081227/ap_on_re_mi_ea/ml_israel_palestinians
My blog can be found here.
Above is from fake.
Do not abuse. Use it for info only.
/We must also prepare for the New Year ahead with new strength and focus./
ya.. Cook some milkrice, buy viagra and pair of sun glasses.
Thanks Mahen, for entertaining us.
Sujeewa and Ananda, thanks you so much for your replies. Yes I am new here and learning. LTTE had done a successful attack by landing from sea in EPS. So I did not want to discount the pro-LTTE claims too much. Furthermore we all are well aware of failed attempts of large scale attacks on Colombo on X'mas and 31st night. Attacks in Colombo and an attempt on Jaffna can help greatly in psychological terms. Pychology seem to be LTTEs latest strategy to keep diaspora money coming in even after their loss in the conventional warfare. I think they are already preparing for the guerilla war. What do you think?
Indira from the dead, last time you sympathised with Ealem you lost your son or may be you wanted him to meet you with dead soon? What do you expect this time?
Isurujosh,
I do not rule out an attempt to attack Jaffna, but I still think that most of thrust will come from land. The need is in 1000s of ppl and hence essentially via land.
There are two reasons that may intensify it. The three locations Para, Mula, Kili are about to fall. And most importantly is Para falls, then EPS becomes inaccessible via land. So this may make some hopeless and hence giving the remaining force towards Jaffna. Secondly I think Fatpig will need some major act for covering of his escape.
[Mineral sand mining to commence in Nilaweli, Mullaitivu
The coastal land area from Nilaveli to Mullaithivu is to be reserved exclusively for Lanka Mineral Sands Limited(LMSL), to explore and mine heavy beach mineral sands.
]
Whaaaaaaaaaaaat?
Kawda yako ape Tamil homeland ekey mewa karanne?
Much has been said about defeating the terror of LTTE (quite rightly so) - but what happens after then? Has the GOSL or any politician got the back bone or credibility to come up with a solution to the problem/issue. Generations have grown up with the mis-trust mis managaement and the farcical events that have gone on in SL to resolve this amicably.
2009 would be a year of make or break
isurujosh,
[I think they are already preparing for the guerilla war. What do you think?]
I absolutely agree with you. I think Velupillai Prabhakaran's plans to wage an extended guerilla war are already quite advanced, but he will wage it from abroad in Tamil Nadu. Remember all those boats abandoned on beaches in Tamil Nadu recently? That is the arrival of the advance guard preparing for the relocation to TN.
I think there are people in TN who will hide him, protect him, and enable his communications with the guerillas in SL. He won't take the chance of remaining in Sri Lanka, if there is no uncleared areas to provide a safe haven for him and his imperial guard. That is why he should be prevented from leaving SL (if he has not fled abroad already) at all costs.
I agree with Moshe & disagree with Sujeewa on the following point: it is time to take out VP. In my judgment, he is a greater liability than an asset to combating separatism & terrorism in SL at this point. If he is alive, he will rally TN and the SL Tamil diaspora behind him, and will keep the pot boiling in SL. If he is caught alive, we will have to try him, waste time & effort doing that, and risk his being released under foreign (and possibly internal) pressure in the context of "negotiations." We don't want to negotiate with a inflexible mass murder like him again, ever...this war would have ended decades ago without him. If he is dead, the LTTE will not have a leader with the ability to control and focus it. Also, if he is dead, the LTTE funds collecting mafia will divide into groups fighting for the money & tax-base out of greed, will lose focus on the Eelam struggle, and will destroy each other. The advantage of his being wanted for Rajiv Gandhi's murder in India, will not offset the liability of his continued leadership of the LTTE. India still wants the next level of Rajiv mudrders such as Pottu Amman and is opposed to the proscribed LTTE.
In the immediate post-war period, it is important to catch and punish the LTTE leaders below Prabakaran, to rehabilitate and release the rank-and-file LTTE cadre under probation & continuous monitoring (these people will be the base guerilla force and a potential dormant fifth column, already trained for that purpose with contacts etc), and most importantly, to locate the arms, ammunition, explosives, detonators and communications equipment, etc stored and hidden by the LTTE for waging the guerilla war.
Finally, the LTTE should be proscribed in Sri Lanka, and not be allowed to metamorphose into a political entity in Sri Lanka. In fact, a constitutional amendment should be passed to proscribe all parties advocating separatism and communalism in Sri Lanka, with special emphasis on party names that reflect those objectives.
Just my two cents worth.
Ananda-USA
Good analysis and i would tend to agree with most of what you say except for the following
- I'm reliably informed the late LK (Foreign Minister) did a deal with USA,UK,India and other influential countries not to proscribe LTTE in SL in return for those countries to ban the LTTE and bring about the pressure on the terror establishment on funding etc etc
- USA, UK and more particularly India will want concrete guarantees from GOSL that tamils (liberated from the north) are able to move freely in SL and not subject to registration and other restrictions recently placed on tamils in the South. (understandably a tall order)
- Following the liberation of the North, i wonder if USA/Uk/EU and/or India would allow another "gun totting democracy" thats happening in the east of SL.
Regrettably I'm not very optimistic we are out of the woods. GOSL has lost so much credibility with the international community it requires someone with a strong will, interlect and determination to knock some sense into both sides.
Thats my two cents!
Mayila,
//Punchi,
Now that you have my attention, you should know that I have taken the role of dealing with psyops by Pussycats on this blog.//
Everybody knows by now, you just write 80% of garbage and other bloggers hardly even read them. Dealing with psyops, my arse!
//When you came barging into the blog, you decided to do it by attacking a number of characters here.//
I did not attack any one but tried to think at their characters loudly.
//You soon met your match in every way possible.//
I do not care whom I met here. I only read their posts.
//There were questions then whether you were a cat.//
Cat or no cat try to meet my writing without trying to take others help by branding me as a terra. That is "kasippu simiyons" tactic.
//Your claim to be a "Human Behaviour" expert was easily exposed.//
I have never said I am a human behaviour expert. I only said "I am studying bloggers" specially those who are sick. You are one fine example of them.
//You do remember the one about the Freudian stages of development don't you. I wondered which stage you were stuck at. Just to remind you, the stages were,
Oral- (C*@k sucker)
Anal- (take it up the @r$#)
Genital-MF
What only some of us have continued to consider is whether you are actually a Puddy Tat. Well, it is noted that your attacks have been specifically on patriots of the Blog.
Your posts have been largely petulant ones whinging and gossiping about other posters. There has been little of depth in reality.
However, it is still possible that you may not be a puddy tat.
That would have to make you a spoilt little rich boy.//
Well, the above is a good example provided by yourself That you are nothing but an empty pot which just trying to sound like a drum.
The rest of your post utter garbage and.......
//Little: Well (Heh Heh Heh)//
The heh heh heh and hoh hoh hoh shows your stupidity, nothing else.
//In either case, (Puddy Tat or MF) that makes you a Sakkiliya eh?//
The above shows your low class and character as illustrated below:
Remember "Nachachcha wasalo hothi" "Nachachcha hothi brahmano"
"Kammana wasalo hothi"
"Kammana hothi brahmano"......
Anyone become "sakkiliya" only by his actions not by his/her birth. Therefore calling others "sakkiliya" you became a sakkiliya like "kasippu simiyon". Other two names which I don't want to mention in a blog like this are also fitting names for you and only for you.
Nadesung kaput ?
Well may be some others too ?
Ali,
Brother, is ther any news about "Nade Sung"?
Could you please write what you know?
Thanks buddy!
Ali,
Mate, I am also interested to read what happened to nadesen.
Not sure it is nadesung that was the first news . It is possible
But a lot of the second level gone . I cant read this but this was posted today .
http://www.sankathi.com/index.php?mact=Album,m3,default,1&m3albumid=37&m3returnid=79&q=79
Rana .
Not a 100% mate .. but there was an attack on a so called gathering and it is expected some are dead . There is abuzz it is nadesung . Some sources say it is others like thleepan. no 100 % confirmation
The guys in the sanakti may not be that group , I think it was the sinna paranthan group
Guys,
Slowly but steadily our boys are marching forward. One by one LTTP strong holds are crumbling down.
LTTP fighting hard, means leadership is sacrificing good fighters to save his pride hopefully.
I have very high respect for MR, GR and SF for tightening screws on final stage. I am sure they will finish it satisfactorily.
Ali,
That will do!
Thanks, bro.
After brief encounter with my LNP friends here is what I gather.
UpulJ(Some speculate that he is the brother of Jagath Dias the Supreme commander of the 57 division.
)
Their communication systems have died since the capture of the tower in Mulliyawalai(25 Dec),probably that was the meeting(on 27 Dec) all about to establish an auxiliary communications when they were pulverized by SLAF without advanced warning.
Some are speculating that Nadesan is gone.
Vigilante,
Good post, thanks, mate.
Boyz,
Pukeharan's end is closer, he will be killed by his own militants. It can happen within eelam borders or in tamil naadu, if he opted to hide there.
Make a note!
If SLDF keep up the pressure for another 06 weeks.
PUKEHARAN WILL BE KILLED BY HIS OWN CADRES!
It can happen at any moment, what we need to do is keep up pressure. His cadres now begining to understand what is really going on.
Vajira,
Please be cautious about who you share information with. There are bloggers who are infact LTTE diehards but pretending to be SLA supporters. If I were you , I wouldn't share anything with any blogger, no matter how trustworthy they are.
It is paramount SLA avoids debacles
like Athurugiriya and Major Muthaleef.
Jet
What should Sri Lanka do for the land captured by SLF from LTTE?
Should they keep them?
Let's say you hit me and ran. I ran even faster, caught you, beat you up and took your shoes. What should I do with them? Give it to someone who doesn't have or keep them?
I agree with Vigilante.
Trust no one here to share information unless you know that person directly.
That is why I said people like Asthri who sounds so racist could be deployed by LTTE to make Tamils angry to get their support.
முல்லைத்தீவை நோக்கிய சிறிலங்கா படையினரின் முன்நகர்வு முறியடிப்பு: 50 படையினர் பலி; 75 பேர் காயம்; 16 உடலங்கள் மீட்பு
முல்லைத்தீவை நோக்கிய சிறிலங்கா படையினரின் பாரிய முன்நகர்வு நடவடிக்கை தமிழீழ விடுதலைப் புலிகளால் நேற்று முறியடிக்கப்பட்டுள்ளது. இதில் 50 படையினர் கொல்லப்பட்டுள்ளதுடன் 75 பேர் காயமடைந்துள்ளனர். படையினரின் 16 உடலங்களும் படையப் பொருட்களும் விடுதலைப் புலிகளால் கைப்பற்றப்பட்டுள்ளன.
இது தொடர்பாக விடுதலைப் புலிகள் தெரிவித்துள்ளதாவது:
முல்லைத்தீவை நோக்கி சிறிலங்கா படையினர் நேற்று சனிக்கிழமை அதிகாலை 5:30 நிமிடமளவில் ஆட்லறி மற்றும் பல்குழல் வெடிகணைச் சூட்டாதரவுடனும் கனரக போர்க் கருவிகளின் சூட்டாதரவுடனும் பாரிய முன்நகர்வினை மேற்கொண்டனர்.
இம்முன்நகர்வுக்கு எதிராக விடுதலைப் புலிகள் கடும் எதிர்த்தாக்குதலை நடத்தி பிற்பகல் 1:00 மணியளவில் படையினரின் முன்நகர்வினை முறியடித்தனர்.
இதில் சிறிலங்கா படையினர் 50 பேர் கொல்லப்பட்டுள்ளதுடன் 75 பேர் காயமடைந்துள்ளனர். படையினரின் 16 உடலங்களும் படையப் பொருட்களும் விடுதலைப் புலிகளால் கைப்பற்றப்பட்டுள்ளன.
கைப்பற்றப்பட்ட ஆயுத விவரம்:
ஏகே எல்.எம்.ஜி - 08
81 எல்.எம்.ஜி - 01
ஆர்.பி.ஜி - 04
லோ - 02
ரி-56-2 ரக துப்பாக்கிகள் - 08
ரி-56 ரக துப்பாக்கிகள் - 02
உள்ளிட்ட பெருமளவிலான படையப் பொருட்கள் கைப்பற்றப்பட்டுள்ளதாக விடுதலைப் புலிகள் தெரிவித்துள்ளனர்.
"PRABHA WILL BE KILLED BY HIS OWN CADRES!"
This is a very possibility and it is called implosion.
Remember the days LTTE killed all the other groups and became the dominant? Before that they were fighting among themselves like Tamil gangs in Toronto or East London.
Few Tamils have already told me a Tamil likely to kill Prabhakaran before a Sinhalese does.
more modaya made the kissed
lolz
House of Cards in Iraq: Can someone replicate something like this for LTTE?
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/iraq/leader-cards.htm
Really Cold,
You are not the first one who speculate "kasippu simiyon" is a LTTP mole planted to disrupt the blog.
"Wijayapala", "Purely Speculative but could be true" and several others said the same thing.
Myilrawana is trying to protect "kasippu simiyon" why either he is scared of filthy attack from him or MayilRawana is also a tiger in disguise.
2 students, child wounded in SLAF attack
Sri Lanka Air Force (SLAF) bombers Saturday noon bombed a locality, at 9th division in Puthukkudiyiruppu of Mullaiththeevu district, where refugees are settled with ICRC provided shelters, causing injuries to at least three civilians, initial reports from the medical authorities at Puthukkudiyiuruppu hospital said. Two teenage students and a 4-year-old child were the wounded victims rushed to the hospital.
The victims were identified as 4-year-old Sevarajah Selvaranjan, 10-year-old Amirththasan Vithusalini and 18-year-old Saththiyaseelan Saththiyarajah.
Thanks for the 16 bags of fertiliser; photos in the morning.
Now it is time to 'mooch Mulaitheevu.
Ananda-USA,
If VP or Pottu get killed in this war so be it. However, apart from the potential strategic value of information mining (assuming there is more to be gained other than what is in the databases) there is the advantage of International Exposure of the diaspora.
Can you recall how small Saddam Hussein looked especially after his arrest?
As I understand both these guys have been convicted and sentenced to Capital Punishment in two countries (is that not right?).
On top of that an International Crimes Against Humanity trial (carried out jointly by SL and India of course) would go a long way in damaging the Tamil Diaspora who have funded and supported this for 30 years. They know who they are and they are in positions in which those whom they have lied to know. This is an important opportunity.
Did you not notice that guys like Navindran and Bhairav let it out some time ago that VP is expendable. He has in fact being the cat's paw. The real cat is still OS.
jet
If I want to come down to your lower level, I will show you pictures and info related to dead LTTE carders. I don't play that game since I have more than two brain cells.
Peter
You will be fertilizer one day as well. Do you think SLF has surrounded Mulathieve district to open up a new fertilizer factory?
RealCold,
All's fare in love and war. It is just tactics. Different bloggers use different methods. Nothing personal. Aim is to expose possible terras. Others will be ignored.
LTTE Human Element Saves Srilankan Army New Recruit’s Life
by Arush
He could have breath his last in few minutes or would have tucked with other dead bodies of his colleagues. Founded among eight dead bodies, he was sustaining serious injuries in the neck and the arm, had the luck to live thanks to the humanitarian nature of a LTTE cadre, who is fighting a battle to push back thousands of SLA still suffer for the sake of a Mahinda regime’s political dream to have a single majority.
The fighting escalated at 1.30 am on 16th of December as the LTTE was still holding ground at the Kilaali – Mugamalai – Nagargovil front line. Two brigades of the 53 division, led by Brig. Kamal Kunatatne was taking its maximum effort to capture the front line bunkers at Kilaali front. After nine hours long heavy fighting, the LTTE managed to push back the SLA with heavy casualties.
While recovering dead bodies of the SLA soldiers, the LTTE cadre found a soldier was still breathing at 7.00 p.m. The field medics gave him first aid. After regaining consciousness he pleaded for some water. Honouring the moral values, the LTTE medic copes did not let him die and they treated him as one of their colleagues and were given proper treatment at northern front field hospital. He was then brought to the nearest Ki'linochchi hospital for further treatment where he was treated.
The young soldier R.A. Nishan Ranasinghe (22), who was attached to the "Sinha Regiment" and he was a resident of Anurathapura. Trained in Diyathalawa Army Training Centre, the young soldier was brought down to battle front forcibly. The blindfolded soldier was just dropped at battle fronts and forced to fight.
Most of the soldiers are sent to battle without proper training. In the modern military, every soldier received basic infantry training before any other training. There, they learn how to be a strong member of their new team, the standing orders that they need to follow, and how to keep themselves battle ready.
But Ranasinghe was sent to the forefront of the offensive immediately after completing his military training on 25 November. The Prisoner of War (PoW), who was allowed to talk to media while he was in Ki'linochchi hospital, said he had studied up to 7th standard and joined the SLA considering the economic benefits, but did not expect that he would be sent to the battle front immediately.
R.A. Nishan Ranasinghe, further said he joined the SLA on 25th of July, 2008 and He was sent to training on handling weapons and facing the battle with 659 new recruits. Following his three months crash training, Mr. Ranasinghe was dispatched to 53 Division, which is in Kilaali front. He had been involved in major military operation within fifteen days of completion of his training.
On the night of 09th of December, he was amongst those sent to the offensive and was ordered to move forward at 2:30 a.m. Amid heavy LTTE resistance, they were then ordered to retreat, but he was wounded and lay on the field for nearly 12 hours from 6:30 a.m., without any effort by the SLA to rescue him.
"I was abandoned in the field by my colleagues after I was wounded. I was lying amongst the dead soldiers when the LTTE found me, treated me and eventually saved my life.
I joined the military because the salary was high and I was promised that I will not be taken to the battle field for two years. But shortly after joining they brought me to Jaffna and within six days they throw me in this front line.
There are many Sinhalese youths who have been fooled in this fashion to join the army. I was one of 35 members of the platoon with which took part in this battle. I only knew the situation after I joined the army.
We were brought to the Kilaali battle field, there were four of us together in the team of 35. I do not know what happened to the other three at the battle" he has said in an interview in the Wanni.
Know nothing about the strength or the fighting capacity of the LTTE, the young soldiers were shown heroic political pictures of the government and have misled by saying that the SLA would confront any battle against the LTTE. The young soldiers were given an assurance that the SLA would win the battle and they are fighting a wining battle. Still recruiting young soldiers to keep the battle going, the SLA which is fighting a losing battle with an inexperienced and poor man power to control the vast territory, gives hopes for a winning state for Sinhalees while shutting down all the possible media links to know the truth about the battle.
No independent reporting from the war zones is permitted. The government’s efforts to whip up patriotic fervour are designed to drown out widespread discontent over war and its economic burdens. The actual number of army casualties is likely to be far higher than the government information, most of the injured soldiers are without legs, hands, sight and others their hearing. Many of them had been engaged in the fighting for Kilinochchi. Most were reluctant to talk, about glimpse of the ferocity of the battles, because possible victimisation by the military and associated thugs.
Arriving at a very decisive stage, the SLA is still maintaining their propaganda tactics. According to the information, has become very hard on those who try to flee the battle zone. The outfit does not spare even children and the sources said the SLA now recruit small children to employ them in the other work, but some time they are also being sent to battle fronts.
Most soldiers are economic conscripts—young men and women, mainly from rural Sinhala areas, who have joined the military because of the lack of jobs and educational opportunities.
The soldiers had told their parents that "Do not worry mum and dad we will not be put straight into the battle." But the events are other way around, new recruits were blindfolded and drop at the front lines and as they have no option they are forced to fight for their survival. In this war nearly twenty five thousands of soldiers have deserted the military as a result of harsh conditions and abuse. The military police raided their homes randomly and detained them at the Boossa detention camp.
Ranasinghe had wanted to live. His story will be the best example to show the difference between a professional army and a political motivated army. "The war is for the government’s survival" a soldier’s neighbour said regarding this war.
But other side, the government treated the Tamil civilians in an inhumane way in not only for Wanni but also in government controlled area as well, there were thousands of civilians killed, disappeared and kidnapped. President Mahinda Rajapaksa brothers' military campaign had been uprooted over 275,000 civilians from their homes in Wanni. While they struggle to survive the Sri Lankan military has bombed and shelled their villages, schools, hospitals. An official of the World Food Program told the BBC recently that conditions for displaced people in the northern conflict zone are "as basic as in Somalia".
But, the fate of Ranasinghe turned a new leaf in his life and he will live to tell the difference. The mission to rescue another ‘human’ at the battle front was a success due to immediate actions by the overall counter Wanni operation Commander Colonel Theepan, the young soldier was given a new lease of life. It will be a show piece to tell the world that the LTTE is carrying a liberation struggle for Tamil’s rights and not even a battle against those who misled by the government. Not only Ranasinghe but many SLA soldiers who captured previously with serious injuries were given medical treatment alike the LTTE fighters wounded in the battle fronts.
The highly discipline LTTE cadres carried Ranasinghe, more than several kilo metres from the point that they were fighting simply to save a life of another human being. They did not disregard the international humanitarian laws and even the LTTE cadres at the front lines are well aware about those values - not to kill even an enemy who is fighting for life.
Already suffering from bleeding Ranasinghe was carried by a stretcher to the nearest Northern front Medical field hospital (MFH) where he was given immediate treatment. Then he was transported in an ambulance for more than twenty kilo metres to Killinochchi hospital where the doctors gave him treatment for the neck injuries.
Then his journey for freedom as well as for life was ended at the Killinochchi Hospital, where he is now given special medical treatment and care. But Killinochchi Hospital also has came under artillery fire by the Sri Lanka Army despite the Sri Lankan army POW is getting treatment. Its mean, the Srilankan government do not regard the international humanitarian laws forever.
nemesis,
cheers mate.
sujeewa,
100% true.
some time back i said the tamil diaspora's economy is BIGGER than the SL economy and had to face @#$!^$% from some good guys too.
well, i'm not here to make friend or to get popular. so i stand by my assertion.
the tamil diaspora's economy is UNFORTUNATELY, is MUCH BIGGER than the SL economy!
PLUS it is growing UNFORTUNATELY, faster too!
so we need to have some other mechanisms in addition to economy based methods like tougher laws in SL (and other countries too), fruatrating tamil tribal aspirations in SL including specifically banning them, etc.
this will be the key battle AFTER the war. good to see patriots are taking it up in time for the big event.
Some sakkiliya who thinks he is a military expert called arush from wales wrote that crap .. lol
Jet,
Remove that crap. We already read it.
It won't make matters any better for LTTE.
Latest, it looks like number of second level LTTE leaders are gone.
LTTE diehards in LNP are silent.
"I remember that his analogy of Stalingrad and the possibility of Kilinochchi turning into a Stalingrad for the Sri Lankan military was rubbished in a riposte that exposed Raman’s lack of knowledge of that battle in the Soviet theatre of war.."
http://www.sundaytimes.lk/081228/Columns/thoughts.html
Ninja,
Ha ha ha
Yes this is a video from the Real Tamilnet(TM), also known as Tamilnet.tv.
The boys from that site have put out a number of very funny videos which can be found at their site.
This one was put out some months ago from what I remember.
The site attracts diaspora/LTTE gooks like bees to honey.
VESAPILLAI - the fcuking arse coward - IS HIDING AROUND IDP CAMPS!!!
- from defence.lk
"Sri Lanka Air Force fighter jets have carried out air strikes this morning (Dec 27) targeting two locations frequented by terrorist chief V. Prbhakaran.
Air Force spokesperson Wing Commander Janaka Nanayakkara told defence.lk that the jets have targeted a hiding place of the terror chief located in thick jungle 1 km southeast of Vishwamadhu tank around 8.45 AM. Then, the jets have pounded a secret meeting place of the senior LTTE leaders located 1.5 km southeast Puthukkudiyiruppu at 12.45 PM, he said. The second target was also a boat modifying workshop of the LTTE, he added."
- from toiletnet.
"Sri Lanka Air Force (SLAF) bombers Saturday noon bombed a locality, at 9th division in Puthukkudiyiruppu of Mullaiththeevu district, where refugees are settled with ICRC provided shelters, causing injuries to at least three civilians, initial reports from the medical authorities at Puthukkudiyiuruppu hospital said. Two teenage students and a 4-year-old child were the wounded victims rushed to the hospital."
there are at least 4 ways to address this issue. some are not effective.
1. the SUCK-KILL-Y view. according to this SLAF should not bomb ANYWHERE civilians are. if we follow this LTTE will have a fantastic way to protect their assclowns. they will simply hide in IDPs!!!!!
even ananda sigari is in his shit mode (he has bi-polar disorder), he is of this view. other extreme terror supporters are worse, obviously.
2. bomb tiger hideouts regardless. the geneve convention allows attacking areas tenantated by civilians IF the enemy uses them for military purposes.
3. make civilians leave these highly dangerous areas then bombs them to shitt. but the coward will also move with them. there is a small catch here. the coward needs underground manholes to hide and it is not easy to dig these quickly (especially to meet the luxary needs of the coward).
4. targeted decapitation. may be by "DPU" teams; more precise bombing. but is the effort worth it? i don't think so.
Vigilante,
Well said about whom you can trust.
BTW
There is no doubt in my mind about Asthiri's credentials. I have seen him post elsewhere. Never has he betrayed the petticoat of a puddy that.
Moshey has spoken about the wealth of the Tiger Diaspora. They also have established themselves very deep over 30 years. They come in many guises.
We have to counter all that and they have a head start. I am sure the boyz can eventually learn to workout who's who.
The campaign to protect Lanka only starts with winning this war.
Rana,
How are you mate. Missed you here. Hopefully you had a good break. I hope you met AGG and he made you have a good hearty laugh.
Hope you are feeling well.
Heavy fighting in Mulathivu.
"the tamil diaspora's economy is UNFORTUNATELY, is MUCH BIGGER than the SL economy!"
I want everyone to assume this is a true statement without looking at real facts to verify it.
This is Case #1 for No Federal or Autonomy.
Ponnaprabas last speech from Killinochchi...
http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=YkxlZcTvPkc
HAHAHAHHAHAHA
If you take the best case scenerio, Diaspora's capital and political power can be same as US Jewish who forces US to dump $Billions to Isreal.
Imagine Tamil autonomyin Sri Lanka and the 1 Million diaspora has influence over Tamils in Sri Lanka.
This is why I am tough on foolish Sinhalese on this forum who does nothing but verbally abuse others.
The Sinhalese don't have 1 Million people living in the west since they were not allowed to migrate as fake refugees. Those who did to west did so mostly for blue collar positions.
My view is that there are enough or more Sinhalese in USA to match with Tamil Diaspora. Some of the diaspora have been very well organized politically. A US congressman once contacted a small Sinhalese group has made that statement.
Diaspora brain power is behind LTTE. Sinhalese brain power is not behind the government.
Educated Tamils will support ruthless murderous immoral LTTE. The educated Sinhalese will not do that. They see our corrupted government before their patriotism since they are not blind patriots.
Most Buddhist temples in USA suck the energy and capital of Sinhalese for something none productive with nothing returns to the community since some of the monks can be high maintenance.
MR admin has so far failed to gain the full support of Sinhalese in USA and they distanced themselves with the qualified bunch by appointing his own cousin as the top consulate who everyone knows not the most qualified.
The brains that abuse alcohol for every excuse to have a party can't give vision to our nation.
I ask people to stop being foolish and be smart. Arrogance can take you so far, we will be outsmarted by the rest if we don't learn to grow our brains.
Guys,
It is likely LTTE might be eyeing Jaffna for a surprise attack using all its existing resources.
This could distablise the whole wanni region.
Any one wants to say anthing?
Guys where is Dharmapuram located? Is it close to Putukkudiyiruppu or Iranamadhu? I couldn't find it in the defence.lk map.
"Leave aside the improvement in battlefield performance, many people have forgotten the fact that it was not too long ago that Army deserters were causing havoc in all parts of the country as hired killers, armed robbers, rapists etc, and it was not uncommon for serving soldiers to go and rob houses at gun point while on duty. But primarily because of his zero tolerance to indiscipline, such incidents by serving soldiers or deserters are almost non-existent today. Even common incidents of the past, like soldiers clashing with Police or civilians at the slightest provocation, too are now unheard of."
-Defence Column, The Nation
click here.
Gutikewa,
If the place is also called Tharmapuram then it is located on A35 12 km west of Paranthan.
It is good to raise speculation of possible scenarios. I am hoping some people are reading this blog not to get the messengers, rather to get the message.
Vigilante said...
" Guys,
It is likely LTTE might be eyeing Jaffna for a surprise attack using all its existing resources.
This could distablise the whole wanni region.
Any one wants to say anthing?"
ok unbelieving arsholes and motherfcukers (good guys can refer it too).
canada-
tamil diaspora - 400k; nominal GDP per capita - $43k - total economy of them - $17 m
uk -
td - 300k; GDPPC - $46k - TE of the TD - $ 14 m
these twos are $ 31 m which is SL's GDP (nominal)!!!!
there are other BIG diasporas in france, germany, australia with an economy of $2.4 m each.
plus many more other smaller communities.
(credits to whoever mentioned this somewhere b4 me.)
there is a smaller sinhala diaspora but they don't support the war/anti-seperatism. apiwenuwenapi is not war/ anti-seperatism.
surrendering to the tamil diaspora is the most IDIOTIC thing to do. what should happen is to frustrate tamil aspirations in SL, make them IMPOSSIBLE to get and have tougher anti-seperatism laws (should be against ANY anti-UNITARY movement).
this will "frustrate the TE project" (BTW this is THE political solution) and they will either mind their own fcuking business or just waste money for nothing until they MTOFB eventually.
Guti,
Sorry. Not towards West. Sould be "Towards East".
When human beings are left behind and not given the opportunity to do something productive, they will be destructive.
Most people don't have this vision that the west has.
Soldiers now has a real purpose to join the forces and sacrifice their lives unlike before. They will likely be self motivated to be better soldiers than thieves.
The government has to recognize this and find a way to employ people. Busy mind can never be misguided by Terrorists or political thugs.
If you want to respond to this and say WRING, be prepared to show some facts.
//hemantha said...
"Leave aside the improvement in battlefield performance, many people have forgotten the fact that it was not too long ago that Army deserters were causing havoc in all parts of the country as hired killers, armed robbers, rapists etc, and it was not uncommon for serving soldiers to go and rob houses at gun point while on duty. But primarily because of his zero tolerance to indiscipline, such incidents by serving soldiers or deserters are almost non-existent today. Even common incidents of the past, like soldiers clashing with Police or civilians at the slightest provocation, too are now unheard of."//
When people try to have a serious discussion, another foolish guy try to sell 'saravita' to a defence column somewhere.
Moshe
"
tamil diaspora - 400k; nominal GDP per capita - $43k - total economy of them - $17 m
uk -
td - 300k; GDPPC - $46k - TE of the TD - $ 14 m"
Let's take the best case scenario. This $30 million is a tiny number. What is most important is their political power. If LTTE is destroyed, these people will have no mission in Sri Lanka to support to.
If you add 15% commission our political leaders are getting, they can easily exceed this $30 mil number.
kannimoli gives me erections! IMO she MAY BE the sexiest bitch in asian politics today.
there was a good screww of similar model i forced my 8.75 in 2002 when they had come to see xmas in col from jaffna!! she thought xmas papa (santa clause in tamil slang)means papamaram (pawpaw tree)!!!!
hemantha,
Thanks buddy, really appreciate that.
Capture of Sinna paranathan shooked LTTE swiss leader , shan thevarajah who phoned Nadesan for the clarification.
http://www.divaina.com/2008/12/28/defence.html
LTTE has shaken to the core...
ReallyCold,
If I remember correctly, LTTE left Millitary hardware close to the SLAF base in Colombo(it was close to the Island editorial office) just before they attack Anuradhapura Airbase.
On the same lines, LTTE is talking about attacking Colombo and Mulathivu, but their real attack might launch somewhere else.
That is what the SLA should expect.
Expect the Unexpected whenever you fight LTTE scum, includng this forum.
Good strategy (cleary seen from the action by SF) to delay the capture of Killinochchi so that Mullativu can be captured.
MD,
I believe SL GDP is US $32 billion (the figures are given in millions - $32,347 million is $32 billion).
Mayilravana Aiye,
"You haven't read Mr. Rasalingam? Or Mr. John Pulle?
Haaa Haaa Haaa
Well maybe you should."
Have you read Mr. Adrian Wijemanne? Or Dr. Brian Seneviratne?
Haaa Haaa Haaa
Well maybe you should be more familiar that there are Sinhala supporters of the LTTE just as there are Tamil opponents of the LTTE.
"As far as your expertise in history of literature goes, I give that to you. But it does not protect you from being criticised by a layman scientist applying more rigorous methods than you might apply."
Then please criticize and give evidence. As far as I can tell, your "rigorous methods" consist of Appeal to Ignorance: if you are ignorant of something, then that thing must not exist. That appears to be your sole method to proving that there was no Tamil identity before the 19th century.
The two most common forms of the argument from ignorance, both fallacious, can be reduced to the following form:
Something is currently unexplained or insufficiently understood or explained, so it is not (or must not be) true.
Because there appears to be a lack of evidence for one hypothesis, another chosen hypothesis is therefore considered proven.
"You have chosen not to answer them except in derisive manner."
I use derisive language when I come across ridiculous statements passing for scholarship. I responded to Dr. Mithra Fernando's garbage about the Mahavamsa in a similar way and you thought it was appropriate. But somehow it is inappropriate when I direct it at you.
Your article on lankanewspapers.com is full of inaccuracies and flat-out falsehoods. No level of scientific rigor or impeccable can save arguments based on bad information and unfamiliarity with the subject. I have already pointed out your errors, to which you did not respond, and you continue to repeat them despite my corrections.
The word "Tamil" was already in use among the Tamils centuries before Mahanama wrote the Mahavamsa, both in Tamil inscriptions and literature. Your argument that the term "Tamilakam" was invented by Jains/Buddhists to describe Saivite pockets is both preposterous and wrong- Tamil literature clearly delineates Tamilakam as a single region extending from southern Andhra Pradesh down to Kanyakumari. No mention whatsoever of pockets or even Saivite religion.
Prof. K. Indrapala's article on the oldest Tamil inscription in Sri Lanka. Note the praise on p. 85 of Irattapatikontacholan who was "the rock of support to pure Tamil."
"What we will not accept is any insidious attempt to convince us that there was a "Tamil" identity in ancient times. It is up to you to prove it."
On the contrary- the burden of proof falls on you. **No scholar has presented or even accepted the view that there was no Tamil identity before the 19th century**- that is your own delusional thinking stemming from your ignorance of all things Tamil as well as a pitiable fear of the Eelamists destroying your Sinhala identity. YOU have to write the academic treatise- and your lankanewspapers article unfortunately does not qualify.
"The relevance of what you say on this blog is that it could be construed as an attempt to subvert the sovereignty of Lanka via attacks on Sinhala identity."
I can care less what dumbasses on the internet think- particularly racist dumbasses who are scared shitless of the Tamils and consider Tamil identity a threat to Sinhala identity (are you one of these dumbasses Mayilravana Aiya??). If they don't like what I have to say, then present evidence instead of resorting to pathetic threats.
4 more sea tigers with their boat attained ealam today..
Wijayapala,
You never answered my post (many moons ago) about the applying the scientific method to establishment of the concepts of Sinhala and Tamil identity. I am not going to repeat those principles again.
When I presented the idea that same rigor should be applied to considering the evolution of "Tamil" identity as was applied by SJ Thambaiah to Sinhala identity, your answer was that he is an anthropologist and you depend on historical literature.
I also asked you honestly to educate us about real Tamil literature that refers to a "tamil" identity both from an internal external sources of validity, you never did that.
What you currently present is going someway towards that.
Thank you for that brother.
Now I request one thing of you. Given the article by the Tamil Gentleman who is seeking to claim that Duttugemunu was "Tamil", this request is particularly important.
If you are the expert historian then please run a series of posts for all concerned, so that we can learn from you the basic evidence for considering that our identity originally was "Tamil".
I suspect we are talking at two different levels here, but please don't dismiss what I question and instead propose why my hypothesis is wrong. This is the basic scientific principle.
The test of the null hypothesis.
ReallyCold,
Mayilravana is my ayya and I care about him, but unfortunately he is wrapped up in the statements of Eelamists which real scholars have not accepted. This has led him to make contradictory statements, such as condemning the Dravidianists use of race while praising Anagarika Dharmapala who had insisted that the Sinhalese were a distinct race.
I don't know why mayilravana aiya is afraid of the Eelamists- after all the LTTE is getting beaten and its bootlickers are stuck in denial mode- but his paranoia is pushing him into an anti-Tamil corner. There will be no "joint vision" with the Tamils as long as he and others insist that Sinhala identity alone is the foundation of Sri Lankan sovereignty.
We first ran into each other on asiantribune.com, where I wrote sarcastic articles supporting the Mahavamsa as a source of SL history:
Response to Dr. Mithra Fernando’s “The Myth of ‘Lion Ancestry”
Response to Glimpses from the Mahavamsa
Just as Dr. Fernando believed that he could bring Sinhalese and Tamils closer through Mahavamsa-bashing, it seems that Mayilravana ayya believes that Tamil-bashing will bring them together.
"From what I can see (correct me if I am wrong), Sinhalese is a originated from Sri Lanka. Sinhalese have been living in Sri Lanka long enough to develop their unique language. Perhaps Tamils haven't been living here long enough to develop their own."
Not true. The Sinhala language evolved from the prakrits in central-eastern India, ranging from old Magadha through Kalinga. That is the conclusion of Prof. W.S. Karunatillake. There are some words which are indigenous to Lanka but the grammar and vocabulary as a whole pin Sinhala as an Indo-Aryan language, with significant Dravidian/Tamil influence.
Sri Lankan Tamil language has very different dialects from those found in India, given the fact that it began to evolve separately from at least the 13th century onward. It has retained many features of medieval Tamil but has changed other features as well, giving it a "unique" status not entirely different from that of Sinhala (although Sinhala is a separate language from N. Indian languages, unlike SL Tamil which is a separate dialect of Tamil).
This distinction has led to a notion among some SL Tamils that their language is superior to that of the Indian Tamils. Many SL Tamils who visit Chennai cannot even understand the Tamil spoken there (and many Indian Tamils have only slightly less problems understanding the SL dialect).
Perhaps one way of building an inclusive "Sri Lankan identity" is to acknowledge how the different cultures in SL are unique to the island. Obviously this is the case for Sinhala Buddhist culture but it is also the same for the SL Tamils- which is why there will never be a merger between "Tamil Eelam" and Tamil Nadu to form Greater Dravidistan.
You will not be able to create this common identity by forcing the Tamils to believe that they have no identity, and that they are a threat to the Sinhalese.
Dear Mayilravana aiye,
"You never answered my post (many moons ago) about the applying the scientific method to establishment of the concepts of Sinhala and Tamil identity."
I don't know what you mean by "scientific method" since you don't believe in educating yourself on the topic of your discussion (Tamil identity) and providing evidence.
Therefore I have this proposition. The Eelamists claim that there was no Sinhala identity before the 19th century. How would you respond to this statement? I will give an answer regarding Tamil identity based on your response on Sinhala identity. You are free to write one post or a series of posts.
"Given the article by the Tamil Gentleman who is seeking to claim that Duttugemunu was "Tamil", this request is particularly important."
Since I have not even heard of this article, I don't consider your request to be important. The Sinhala identity will survive ayya.
RealCold,
You say
“If you want to respond to this and say WRING, be prepared to show some facts.”
Then you say
“When people try to have a serious discussion, another foolish guy try to sell 'saravita' to a defence column somewhere.”
You must be referring to the link I posted to “Nation”. (And I was not addressing to you.)
Usually I never waste my time explaining to bitches. For this once I will make an exception. First let me clear about this “wrong” comment. (Not WRING as you stated).
You said
“"Sri Lankan Tamil population has now dropped down to 5%....”
I said “wrong” to make you dumb head to check the facts. Instead you wanted me to spoon feed you. Then when I told you to where to start the search you wrote this.
“I am quoting something someone said few months ago and you are quoting numbers from almost a decade ago.
How silly.”
Then I tried to ignore you because I didn’t want to waste my time on you. So you thought I am week and started usual bitching.
So I am going to spoon feed an ass just for this once.
1. This “SL Tamil population is 5% myth” originated from the people who misread the 2001 census report. In it, SL Tamil population is given as 4.37. (Indian tamil 5.08%, but no relevance here) They did not know that no census was conducted in the following Tamil majority districts.
Jaffna, Mannar, Vavunia, Mulathivu, Kilinochchi, Baticaloa, Trincomalee
Ampara was the only district in NE included in the census.
So currently, the percentage of the Tamil population living in the country but outside the said districts must be close to 5% since lot of Tamils moved to Colombo (from Jaffna) after 2001. (article census 2001).
click here.
2. Then one has to take in to account the Tamil population currently living in the above 7 districts.
In Army controlled area in Jaffna 450,000
In LTTE controlled area Wanni 250,000
In the District of Trincomalee 100,000
In the District of Batticaloa >200,000
It’s more than one million i.e. greater than 5% of the population. Here I did not take in to account the Tamil population living in the government controlled area in Wanni.
(don’t ask me to state article names and everything where the inf is. UN, and RELIEFWEB would be good sources)
So when one add both the total is roughly around 10%. (not 5% as you stated).
Now you fucking idiot, you wasted my time because firstly you had no common sense to understand this 5% number is ridiculous and secondly you had no resources or brain to find the facts and crunch the numbers even after I mentioned where to start.
Now you say
“When people try to have a serious discussion, another foolish guy try to sell 'saravita' to a defence column somewhere.”
“serious discussion” my dog’s ass. (like that 5% bull shit)
You are so great at bitching around. Asithri knows the best language to use for a bitch like you. Apart from all those you are so boring too. That is the most unbearable part.
Wijepala
Any time I will be willing to embrace diversity. In fact when i started talking about it, the Eelamists thoroughly rejected. They are always single minded about Eelam and any mechanism to bring Sinhalese and Tamils together is a threat to them. Sinhalese branded me as an NGO.
In the past, Tamils and Sinhalese have very well accepted each other through marriages and also accommodating Hindu kovils within Buddhist temples.
That unity has prevailed within certain pockets outside Sri Lanka as well. It is difficult to maintain with the LTTE war.
If we want to maintain and promote our identity, we have to respect the same desire by Tamils as well.
I am however will work hard to destroy the other party when we are at a war and build bridges when we are at peace.
Have you read this?
One reason that the terrorists are losing the war maybe because they don't have "SOLDIERS" ! All are "LIEUTENANTS" and above!!
For 18-year-old Subramaniam Priya, life was a flowing stream of hopes and dreams until one fateful day in February early this year. Life was a challenge for this bright eyed teenager with war spreading its claws towards Mulankanvil in the Kilinochchi area. Before the war extended to her hometown, life continued in a sometimes slow, sometimes fast pace. The village was filled with laughter and good cheer. Uninterrupted transportation led them to the hustle and bustle of street markets with the air filled with the screeches of street vendors.
The air is freakishly quiet now. No more children running around, no more constant honking of the buses. The air is stale…and life is an episode of a war-horror movie.“Everyone is afraid now. No one knows when the LTTE will come and take their children or parents away. No one knows when an air raid will assail our village. Everyone lives in fear,” says Priya. “We lived very happily before war tore into our village,” she continues, “people in the village hate the LTTE, they hate them because they come and tear apart families; forcibly recruiting them to the movement and taking away their children.” “They sometimes take away children who are small, some are not even 16.”
She is full of remorse about the harm caused by this never ending war and blames the LTTE for the lies woven about the Sinhalese and the Sri Lankan Army. She sees the futility of it, the stark ineffectuality of the Sinhala-Tamil clash.
“There were five members in our family. Now, with me here, in Colombo there’s only two left of our Subramaniam family,” narrates Priya. Her father was a Poosary (a Hindu priest) and her mother was a typical housewife, they were proud parents of three children - two girls and a boy with Priya as the eldest. They gave them education hoping that someday they will be able to leave the LTTE territory. She studied up to Grade 11. “I was all prepared to sit for the G.C.E. O/L examination in 2006 but was brought down with high fever. I was admitted to the Mulankanvil Hospital and therefore could not write for the exam.” She then got prepared to face the exam in 2007 but fate again double crossed her and on her way to the examination she got devastating news. “I was on my way to the exam when I got the news that my parents had been killed in an Army Kfir attack. I had to rush back,” she wails, and thus her education was hindered. “I did not get another chance as I had to join the LTTE in 2008. I had no other way.” With two small siblings aged 12 and 9, Subramanium Priya was the only one left to adhere to the laws of the LTTE.
With tears in her eyes she bid her old happy, carefree life goodbye and entered the world of the LTTE on February 23, 2008. Waking up at 4.30 a.m, her life unfolded before her under harsh and tiresome training. “The training was really hard; there was a lot of running and jumping about to do, but it wasn’t very hard for me,” said Priya proudly as she claims that she was quite a sports person in school. “I participated in a lot of track events; 800m and 1500m were my best.” she said. She had won numerous awards and certificates to prove this. Unfortunately they are all at Mulankanvil today. Her joy and pride is a certificate she has received for winning first place in the 800 or 1500m at a sports meet held at Trincomalee in 2001 with the signature of the president. “President Mahinda had signed my certificate,” she smiles.
Therefore, the training wasn’t unbearable for her; “Some others used to always cry. They couldn’t keep up with the atrocious training.” All LTTE fighters undergo a programme of rigorous training. A typical training schedule is spread over a period of months, which, according to Priya is merely two months; during which they receive training in handling weapons, battle and field craft, communications, explosives and intelligence gathering, as well as an exhausting physical regimen and rigorous indoctrination. Priya says that one month of vigorous training and another month of all round education in military and political field of study wrap up the training and education period. “They had to prepare us soon for battle.” The women allegedly endure the same tough training as men and are broken up into combating, intelligence gathering, political and administrative entities. She had also received Sea Tiger training.
All cadres are carefully indoctrinated on the authorised position; they are fighting against an unresponsive and discriminatory Sinhala majority for a separate State – Eelam; the cadres must banish all fear of death from their minds and be prepared to lay down their lives fighting the Government forces, or consume the cyanide pill fastened around their necks when capture is imminent. The LTTE places immense emphasis on the cult of martyrdom. Thus every morning at 6.30 am they are sworn in, when they pledge their lives for the safety of the movement and protection of ‘their earth and land’, said Priya with an impish grin with eyes cast down.
She is full of remorse for joining in the movement and says that if she had any other choice she would even have thought about it. While she was a cadre, the LTTE had showed uncanny video tapes of how the Lankan Army treats the LTTE cadres who are taken into their custody. “It was torture. They showed us clips where the army was persecuting our members who were caught in a village close to Jaffna. They made us hate the Sinhalese race; and our hatred made us unafraid to battle. They taught us to fight for revenge,” says Priya adding that however she knows now that they were explicit lies. “I wish they know that the Sinhalese are not like that. They have treated me very kindly, given me new clothes and they look after me well. I don’t ever want to go back,” said Priya.
LTTE leaders have established a new method of encouraging the recruits by illustrating the fact that all are important. And every one is a huge asset to its community. They have no rank called ‘soldiers’, their ranks start from ‘lieutenant’ to show that they are all holding important positions. Eighteen year old Subramanium Priya was also a lieutenant. She was forced to the Pooneryn defence line on October 31. She says that there were both males and female Tigers in the Pooneryn line but most were females. “There were about 150 of us in a few bunkers spread close to each other; out of which about 100 were female cadres. But we were not treated specially by anyone. We were all regarded as the same. We were all there to fight.”
She was injured and caught in her first battle itself and she praises the Lord for taking her away so soon. Priya explains the capture illustratively by marking their bunkers and the army bunkers on the back of her new book given to the army; “there were 3 LTTE bunkers within a short distance of each other. Each had 4 women cadres. We were in the middle bunker, and the thick forest was around us,” explains Priya. Around 4.30 in the morning, a woman from the bunker situated at her right hand side was bitten by a snake and all 4 of those occupants came to her bunker. “There were eight of us in our bunker that night,” recalls Priya. “Around 5.30am we heard some noises from the jungle; we called out ‘Anna, anna’ (brother, brother) but got no response,” it was then that they knew they were not brothers from their LTTE family. “We panicked but soon got the message across to the others in the left bunker.” But, says Priya, they were too late. The Army had ambushed them by then. “I saw our leader fall. And then I was injured. I fell and did not want to get up and fight again.” Instead she ate her Cyanide as ordered and remained where she fell until all the chaos decreased around her. “I heard gun fire, heard some screams of pain but I did not open my eyes. I was surprised I did not die.” Subramaniam Priya, a Hindu girl who worshiped and believed in Lord Hanuman praises the Lord for her escape. “I know He is the one who ate the Cyanide, not me,” says Priya pointing at the pendant around her neck. “He protected me. Didn’t let me die and gave me a second chance and left me in the safe hands of the army.” Later she was carefully carried by an Army personnel, even then she pretended that she was dead. “I didn’t want to get tortured like what we saw on the tapes,” she said.
However, the Sri Lankan Army not only gave her the necessary medication she needed, looked after her and carefully nursed her back to life. When we met Priya, she was all bright-eyed and easy going. Her enthusiasm for having someone to converse with was evident. Her shyness seemed to wither away in a few minutes and she was happily chatting away. She is not so different from any of us. The only difference is that she is a Tamil who turned out to be an LTTE cadre, without her voluntary consent. Her hope is to become a good sportswoman and be fluent in both Sinhala and English languages and she asks shyly if I would be kind enough to drop in some books in all three languages. She wants to turn back her life, to relive every moment from now on. And for her, the Army has given her another chance. “I got my new clothes from them,” she says silently but proudly, “We were not allowed to wear pretty clothes in the LTTE.”
She then reached under her pillow and withdrew a small exercise book which contained poems she had written. She read them to me while our translator decoded it for us. She has written about the futility of war. How no one will be able to attain victory as this is a worthless cause. “There can only be one ruler. One government,” she says, “either a Sinhalese President or Prabhakaran; but not both.” Her intelligence overwhelms us. She continues, “All men and women have the same blood. It’s red blood that flows in our veins. Killing another is killing yourself. So how can one win over another’s death?” she questions. “We will all die if this war continues.”
“I don’t want to go back. Even if I do they will kill me for staying with the LTTE. And my family will lose all benefits,” she declares. Benefits as in the privilege of having a fence around the compound, the ability for cultivation and being given ration cards. “We are poor and these little things means a lot. Anyway if they know I am alive they will harm my family.”
“I only saw them thrice since I joined the LTTE but I hope they are doing well. I wish they were here with me, because I am being looked after well here,” says Priya, “I wish they all know that the big brothers and sisters in the LTTE are spreading only lies about the Sri Lankan Army. They are good people, fighting for what is theirs just like us; they are not brutal or harsh. In fact I am happier here,” she says.
“I want to say something to my brothers and sisters in the LTTE, but I know they won’t believe me. I want to say, not to be afraid of the Lanka Army. They are only human like us, and they treat you better than the LTTE,” concludes Priya.
After fully recovering from her scars at battle she will be enrolled at a rehabilitation centre, where she could pursue her interest in sports and bilingualism. She will then be put out to society with employment. “We will help her rebuild her life and give her the proper guidance and help needed to give her a promising future,” stated Captain Hemantha Dayarathne of the Sri Lankan Army Media Centre
(from DM online)
Wjepala,
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No scholar has presented or even accepted the view that there was no Tamil identity before the 19th century
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The inscription in "pure Tamil" was written some where between 900-1100 CE. It apparently mention a viceroy of the South Indian Chola empire who had invaded the island during this period.
Correct me if I am wrong, how does this prove a Tamil identity that is attached to the land? Tamil clearly evolved elsewhere and introduced into the island during invasions and other types of immigration.
Hemantha
"When people try to have a serious discussion, another foolish guy try to sell 'saravita' to a defence column somewhere."
This was in reference to the guy who is posting multiple links every 5 seconds or so called 'defence column'.
If I have to tell you something, I will tall you directly.
So, you were sitting on your tail and blamed me for your pain for nothing.
"Usually I never waste my time explaining to bitches."
You don't have to disclose your relationship with your mom here.
Jet
[They did not disregard the international humanitarian laws and even the LTTE cadres at the front lines are well aware about those values - not to kill even an enemy who is fighting for life.}
I appriciate the LTTE carders who follow internatial Laws; ? Then who were those M fuckers hacked inoscent infants and civillians to death in Sinhala villages or who are bombing the buses etc.
Fuck of Jet
This is the first time I saw Hamantha losing his cool this much :-)
Whoever brought in, the population figures are debatable as people move around a lot and the correct figures are always not a being a possibility owing to many reasons. However, various publicly available sources provide a platform for us to make the calculations. My biggest source has been reportings by AGAs asking for "relief matter" and many things for people under them.
They may be exaggerating figures by 30% too. Who knows!
Anyway no relevance to this discussion, I posted the following at our LTTE Monkey's Blog,
"Jaffna 400,000
None-Liberated Areas 230,000
Liberated Areas in Vanni 110,000
East 230,000
Colombo and suburbs 330,000
Indian Tamils in the Up Country- 540,000
Total Est., 1.61 M Tamils living in SL.
Sri Lankan population est 21M
That means 7.6% of Sri Lankan population is Tamil.
What a self-genocide!
From 12% to less than 8% in 25 years - a great record!
The next 5 years will double the rate of Tamil population decline if the war persisted, and the Tamils would be reduced to less than 6% of the total population.
What an achievement by stupid Eelamists! Keep strategizing to destroy Sri Lanka as well as your own population!"
My figures for Tamil % numbers was quoted from a DBSJ's article you find here.
http://www.thebottomline.lk/2008/05/07/dbs_col.htm
The Sinhalese who has the gun pointed at a Tamil with hate and rage will not hesitate doing the same for own kind as well. This is exactly what LTTE did.
I will kill the enemy with no hate since it is the necessary next step when everything else has been exhausted.
The hateful person who respond with rage is a looser forever and people like Hemathan and Asthri are no exceptions.
Also how did Tamils pronounce "Chola" since there is no "ch" phoneme in Tamil language or script?
It may have been "Czhola" where the zh is silent. Indrapala knows the problem and gets around it with 'Cola' as in Coca-Cola.
onespirit,
yes. but that doesn't change the conclusion.
rover,
that is news to me. israeli politics is VERY much influenced by outsiders. also it has to differentiate from its nasty enemies (except the southern one)
anyway it doesn't reflect the wishes if its ppl, especially the conservative crowd.
who said i agree with hitler, vesapillai and vesapala???
never.
what i said was even in all of these barbarians i see some hint of good.
re: v-pala...of course yes, it is possible.
Wijayapala,
Thanks for the link. On page 85 the reference to (English translation) "pure tamil" is made. This is in the 11th century. And as the proper names were transliterated did that include the words "pure Tamil"?
These are important observations to be made.
Just to illustrate null-hypothesis again, let us propose two examples of hypotheses:
1) Tamil identity has existed at some point in history
(Null hypothesis would that such an identity has never existed- the proof then would be in an attempt to disprove the null hypothesis)
This depends on the definition of identity. One definition would be an enduring consciousness among a people with a language, distinct culture and territory which were/are all described by the identity (described say by a word- Tamil)
If you apply this definition then the null-hypothesis of a "tamil" identity cannot be disproved in my eyes until mid-19th century.
(The same is not true for Sinhala consciousness which emerged in the middle ages -post Chola invasion- see Thambaiah).
2) Tamil identity was the precursor of Sinhala identity.
This would require a corrolary:
a)A Tamil identity was present prior to emergence of the Sinhala dynasty (the latter being the precursor- presumably unless one takes the Sivuhela myth in to account)which was considered the origin of evolution of the the sinhala identity.
The null hypothesis is that there was no such an identity:
i.e. 1)No dynasty referred to as Tamil
or 2)No language referred to as Tamil
or 3)No territory referred to as Tamil
or 4)No culture referred to as Tamil
The evidence could be internal or external. If any of the conditions of the null hypothesis is present then it proves the null-hypothesis.
So my brother you are wrong in asking me to provide the burden of proof. The burden of proof is on you to disprove either of these null-hypotheses the first prior to 19th century and the latter prior to Muttasiva.
I have already disproved the null hypothesis at the level of the 19th century for the first hypothesis.
noltte,
if you are including indian tamils, the total tamil 5 was more than 15% in 1981. i recon it was around 18% then.
your addition is wrong. it should be 1.84
anyway the overall conclusion still holds.
ReallyCold,
"You don't have to disclose your relationship with your mom here."
Weren't you the one who was complaining when Asithri mentioned your mom?
Then you advise
"The hateful person who respond with rage is a looser forever and people like Hemathan and Asthri are no exceptions."
A maggot advising to a butterfly. And the bitch has changed my name to Hemanthan.(of course with no hate)
mayil,
there was NEVER a seperate tamil identity attached to a territory in SL until around the 14 century.
if there was such a unit, it would have got SCREWWED as it is getting whacked today.
in ancient SL, tamils, etc. could only live if they supported the "sinhela" kingdom.
bomb explosion in wattala kills 5 people.
suicide bomber attacks.. finally some interesting story for the Maharaja(sirasa) media
About the Tamil Diaspora.....
I doubt that their economy is a big and powerful as some people here say. I have tow reasons to think so.
The first reason is.. lets say that the average annual wage in Canada is $43,000. Does this mean that EVERY ONE of the 400k Tamils living in Canada earn 43k per year? What about the old people who are too old to work, or the young children who are too young to work? This 400k number also includes the old people and you children. Lets not forget that.
The second reason I doubt the highly talked about super size of the disapora economy is because the cost of living in the West is on average the highest in the world. Sure the diaspora does earn high annual wages compared to Lankans, but their expenses are also much higher. They have to pay rent, mortages, utility bills, education expenses of their kids plus many more other expenses. In other words, they may earn a lot, but their expenses are also a lot.
Thats why this diaspora is only able to muster about $200-$300 million dollars of funding for the LTTE annually. And this amount too has to be forced out of the diaspora wallets by the LTTE henchmen. Some Tamils are reported to be going into debt and re-financing their mortages in order to pay the amount demanded by the LTTE.
BTW the Sinhalese have about a 400,000 diaspora worldwide, about half of them live in the west.
Duzz,
"bomb explosion in wattala kills 5 people."
This must be one of what Nadesan maggot was talking about.
Yes, good time for Sirasa.
Huge explosion...
VVIP was targeted in Wattala.
SLA ambushed in Alampil, 59 division massacred by LTTE from behind.
hemantha
Here is your problem dude. You are just another self proclaimed foolish patriot.
Twice you have sat on your tail.
I wrote "Hemathan" which is a typo. My slow fingers has added 'n' at the end which you read as "Hemanthan".
Remember what I told you when you spoke of Buddhism Wisdom to protect a racist like Asthri?
I said I will take the word if you follow it by yourself.
Weren't you that predictable my little boy?
No wonder Buddha Sasana is full of crooks with thugs like you.
Thanks so much GoldenEagle! With a Liberal democracy in Sri Lanka, we can not only tackle gay and other issues but also the putative ethnic problem.
NoLTTE,
Your numbers looks completely off (a rare occurrence). Figures for outside NE, you can use 2001 census.
For Batticaloa and trinco, the recent election results would be useful to get an estimation. Specially for Batti.
Moshe,
SL Tamil population was used to be 12% as you said correctly. I think it may have gone down to around 10% when the available numbers are added. There is a distant possibility that it can be as low as 9%. But not as low as 8%.
Rover
I have never really understood the hatered for gays even among my friends. They have such intense dislike for gays. For some reason I never really had that kind of hatered of them.
I take a very similar view of the recent ban of online porn in lanka. This ban will not work, they are so many ways people that navigate past the barriers in the cyber world.
Besides, a recent study has shown that countries in which porn is legal tend have lower rapings per capita than those countries that ban porn.
Human nature is human nature.
rover,
you judged a totally different thing from what was about "decriminalization of homosexuality".
this is in no way a "liberal view" TOWARDS gays as you put it. it is much less than that.
homosexual acts between willing adults need not be criminal; i agree. it is only immoral. it doesn't affect the rest of the society. it has no bearing on families either.
Moshey,
Thanks mate; I know that. What I question is even their identity. They did not call themselves "Tamil". The dynasty called itself "Aryachakravarti".
If you see my latest reply to Wijeyapala you will see how the scientific method can be applied to this question. It is really up to Wijayapala to disprove the null-hypothesis that there was no "Tamil" identity prior to the 19th century (I have disproved it as have many historians) for the 19th century.
Wijayapala,
Why are you making an uninvited communication with ReallyCold (aka PukaSeethala) about my view of "tamil". Please don't compare me to Lankamithra Fernando, I would not apply his warped logic to any thing. I am on the other hand countering people like Thambaiah who have (rightly) restricted the emergence of the Sinhala identity to the middle ages for the wrong (aimed at attacking MahaVamsa and the concept of Sinhala identity itself) reasons. It is their wrong sentiments that I am countering when I apply their own criteria to Tamil identity. Their method is not wrong and it demonstrates significant holes in the assumption of a Tamil identity in middle ages let alone in ancient times.
If I am getting so much under your skin that you have to accuse me of being anti-Tamil then we can stop our discussion.
I challenge the "Tamil" identity admittedly to protect the sovereignty of the island from being over-run by a modern day fascist Tamil-Dravidian state , true. That does not make the logic of my argument any less valid. Please distinguish "motivation" from "logic".
Hemantha,
You can see how the girls who did not like the filth that the uncles spoke are beginning to show their petticoats.
"Hemanthan", heh heh; I've heard people refer to Wijayapala with an "n" at the end derisively. But I rather suspect that in your case somehow an unconscious mistake was made which cannot be retrieved now.
Hemantha
The 5% number is CIA factbook is only for the Sri Lankan Tamils this does not include the upcountry population.
The Sri Lankan tamil population has decreased due to emmigration and war. The upcountry Tamil population has been growing slowly buts its birth rates are also decreasing fast just like the rest of the ethnic groups in Lanka. As a whole Lanka's average birth rate is decreasing and is already below the replacement level of 2.1 children per woman.
GE,
of course there are income disparities. in SL also it is there. but FYI, the SL tamil diaspora in canada, UK, france, germany, australia are not in the lowest income bracket.
the older ppl argument is not a consideration at all. that is applicable to the SL per capita as well!!
the cost of living is also a no consideration. ppl in those countries can save a dollar much easier than sri lankans!!!! and LTTE has other means of milking them as well.
the thing about the sinhala diaspora is different. they rarely contribute to war comparatively.
ReallyCold
"I wrote "Hemathan" which is a typo. My slow fingers has added 'n' at the end which you read as "Hemanthan"."
Lets read it again. you wrote "Hemathan and Asthri ". Ok, Let's say you made a mistake in my case. How did you change Asithri's name to Asthri. Another mistake? A devil trying to preach.
And you didn't comment about this part
"You don't have to disclose your relationship with your mom here."
Weren't you the one who was complaining when Asithri mentioned your mom?
As I said earlier you are a waste of my time. Keep bitching around. Bye,bye.
Panhinda,
About your reply to Wijayapala.
My point is this; we can (i.e. the man on the street) see that sinhala identity gradually evolved over a period of over a thousand years until the Chola invasions precipitated a "national consciousness" for which there is proof. Historians provide this for us in easily accessible Text books. The Internet is also full of such evidence, extensively discussed.
There is no such proof of stage by stage evolution of a "Tamil" identity. It suddenly springs up in the 19th century based on discoveries of the Sangham literature. Any calim for contnuity of a "tamil" identity is based on relebelling of Pandya and Chola and Pallava inscriptions.
I have asked Wijayapala to show us otherwise. He has not done so. He keeps avoiding my requests for scientific proof. This is the second time I have given a thumb-sketch tutorial on the scientific method.
"The 5% number is CIA factbook is only for the Sri Lankan Tamils"
not quite.
it is for SL tamils in SOME districts of SL ONLY.
[(lakbima)A special police team arrested the brother of former head of the LTTE’s political wing, S P Thamilselvan, outside the Fort railway station last week.
]
What was the delay in dispatching a white van? Gasoline crisis?
Names of Tamil terrorist barbarians and their sponsors need not occupy the respectable spaces of newspapers or the web. Just arrange 'accidents'.
Upul,
what the source you getting these info from?
Let me guess
In your DREAMS HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHA
Upul said...
SLA ambushed in Alampil, 59 division massacred by LTTE from behind.
Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaa right, as our lions are that dum, stop dreaming man, get your stuff ready,,,,,,start running,...cuz SF is after your monkey ltte ass
LOL:)
another LTTE arms ship has been destroyed. this is the second in a matter of weeks.
no doubt the MFs are getting weapons.
i'm sure there are plenty of other ships. when we destroyed around 11 ships, we called it the "original fleet".
we should take all their vessels.
GE,
Please refer to my earlier comment related to this. (Sorry it contains lot of bashings). My numbers for the north and east was taken from recent sources. They are not exact. But should be close.
gringo,
120% with you, mate. they don't deserve anything else. they also don't have an enforceable legal right for practical reasons!!
in this business, kindness IS weakness.
GoldenEagle,
I agree with your views. Though the gay community does not contribute to any of the major issues that face the Earth, such as climatic change, famine, wars, degradation of the environment ect. which are primarily caused directly by human population explosion (a habit exclusively associated with heterosexual activity), they are totally disparaged by many. This is mostly because the two major religions, Christianity and Islam disparage it. Buddhists and Hindus do not have to contribute to these primitive notions. But we must one must remember that the west, whose roots are embedded well within Christianity do not disparage it anymore. It was really silly that Sri Lanka sided with the barbaric Arabs without supporting the UN resolution with the West, two Buddhist Asian Buddhist countries - Japan and Nepal) and Israel.
Yes, online porn, again a stupid populist maneuver by the GOSL mostly to cater to whose who do not even have internet facilities (like aththammas in villages)!
In the west, where internet porn is prevalent, at least most of my friends, don't even look at it. They have had the real thing for years (!), and are fed up with all sorts of porn.
Moshe,
"another LTTE arms ship has been destroyed. this is the second in a matter of weeks."
Cool, we are back in business!
hemantha
When I talk to LTTE followers, I get the feeling that they have a very immature mentality. Unfortunately you show the same behavior.
If in doubt, learn to ask for clarifications before jumping into conclusions.
I never complained when Asithri personally assaulted me and never responded to him by going down to his level. For both you and him, I used your own words against you.
I rather say 'Hello' than bye bye since I am not done.
rover,
yes; but this means LTTE is getting a steady flow of weapons.
but you are right we are back in business that's what it means
Mailravana
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There is no such proof of stage by stage evolution of a "Tamil" identity. It suddenly springs up in the 19th century based on discoveries of the Sangham literature.
*/
Don't forget there are some scholars who claim "Tamil Sangam" itself is a hoax. None of it can be dated and no one knows the authors of these literature. This means any tom dick could have written and claimed it as "authentic Tamil" lit.
MayilRavana
// Wijayapala,
Why are you making an uninvited communication with ReallyCold (aka PukaSeethala) about my view of "tamil". Please don't compare me to Lankamithra Fernando, I would not apply his warped logic to any thing.//
Another immature self proclaimed patriot.
If LTTE is replaced by LLSL (Liberating Lions of Sri Lanka) like you, it will be like changing pillow for the headache.
They are ganging up on good people here...
They are trying to take one by one....
Exactly!
Mayil,
You see here. This nut case is in love with me. The devil talks about my mom. Then preach. Simultaneously he changes both my name and Asithris. Then he says it is his fuking fingers.
Then preach again.
(No kid shold be sent to this type of loving grand fathers)
hemantha,
i BADLY wanted to jump in too.
but i resisted.
responding to them makes them feel important.
you jumped in with good intentions; to point out a fact. but then what happened...........#$^%&%^&*.
hemantha with Last_mile and Mayil
"They are ganging up on good people here."
Don't you see your mentality has some parallels with LTTE?
The reference to 'peace dove' comes to my mind.
If you are fighting for a nation and the object is winning the war, you need to work on the fundamentals.
Without a solid moral foundation, you go no where.
"Without a solid moral foundation, you go no where."
The retard who talked about my mum is now talking about moral.
(Raping grandpa)
Moshe,
"yes; but this means LTTE is getting a steady flow of weapons."
Yes this is worrisome. Still money is flowing into LTTE coffers, and still the diaspora supporters are making sure that LTTE goes through with the business plan that they came up with 30 years ago.
Vigilante;
It is likely LTTE might be eyeing Jaffna for a surprise attack using all its existing resources.
This could distablise the whole wanni region.
Any one wants to say anthing?
I fully agree. In fact I have been stating something similar. However I do not agree that it will be so caled "full force". There will be many sacrificial goats but not so many hardcore. Equally I do not think that it will have any intention of capturing Jaffna. If they has a little brain they should know the feat is beyond reality even at their full power.
So the speculated Jaffna attack would be more of a media stunt for me. Also it can be utilize as a backup for Fatpig to escape. For these very reasons I do not expect to see full force hardcore participating in it.
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student;
Good strategy (cleary seen from the action by SF) to delay the capture of Killinochchi so that Mullativu can be captured.
I'd like to see them capturing Puthkudiruppu and the adjacent shore line before actually capturing either of Kili/Mula
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Moshe & others;
On diaspora after Pussycats.
Now there is another big concern. Look at the storm in making. In the
back of all celebrations of SLDF glory, don't you see diaspora getting ready for the void of pussycats? The bullets and bombs are replaced with legislation and statements. Demon look of fatpig and pussycats is replaced with not even asian looks of Fein and Parker et al.
A new movement is in formation to replace pussycats. Totally different, purely peaceful and more demonic than the predecessor. No wonder why everyone wants to bury the death and destruction with fatpig et al.
A new bloodless vehicle body is being made to plug the $300mil engine and run off, they will happily burn the blood stained old body called pussycats.
Biggest hurdle is, with the lack of Pussycats we will loose support of world at a great deal as Pussycats are the mistake of diaspora. I wanna see Fatpig alive in exile for this reason. As I said he's the hedging for us. He will make sure demise of pussycats is gradual and there is no replacement.
Rear Cold (Puka Seethala),
Without a solid moral foundation, you go no where.
Aney balu keri ganda gahana patta vesige putho, who the hell are you to talk about morals?
You are fighting only with good people here. You are already friendly with the bad lot.
Why?
there has been a terrorist bomb attack in wattala.
buggers are testing the waters.
hope this will be retaliated so that there will be no further adventures.
hemantha
It is obvious you are running out of filth to harasses me. Asithri is actually very creative in this department.
"(Raping grandpa)"
Is this you call your grandpa?
This is what you said:
"Usually I never waste my time explaining to bitches."
This is how I responded:
"You don't have to disclose your relationship with your mom here."
This technique is called burning you from the fire you started.
I never took your insults and reflected back to you. You are still in pain.
I made all you guys fools of defencewire. None of the technical arguments you are trying to make aren't credible anymore.
I kindly ask you to clean up your acts since it is still not too late. If you need, I will be happy to help you immature souls.
hemantha, Asithri, MayilRavana, Moshe Dyan, last_mile, and priyashantha.
You really make the Sinhala nation very proud.
There is no difference between people like you and LTTE fanatics.
sujeewa,
another prophetic observation.
indeed. when tigers are done away with, we will have little to show to the world why we are continuing with high handed counter terror measures and why we are not entertaining their BS agenda.
but SL has the right of self-determination. i recon we should get into the prime principles of self determination (why it is there, what makes ppl want it) and seek ways to counter this BS.
good governance and transparency which are very far away for SL needs to be seriously looked at.
Rear Cold,
"Sinhala nation".
Where is that? Give me latitudes and longitudes please if you can.
If you can't it is another rubbish story from you as usual.
I googled "Sinhala nation" because I didn't know. From the results I got, I can see who is using such vocabulary.
Here is the google list.
www.tamilnet.com/art.html?catid=13&artid=10216 - 37k
www.tamilnation.org/tamileelam/fundamentalism/index.htm
www.sangam.org/articles/view2/?uid=542 - 21k
www.eelam.com/2006/tamilnationalleader_speech2006.html - 24k
www.ltteps.org/?view=2063&folder=9
This reveals who you are.
Conversation of the day:
"Without a solid moral foundation, you go no where."
Priyashantha said
"Aney balu keri ganda gahana patta vesige putho, who the hell are you to talk about morals?"
I categorically condemn this type of behavior and trying to discredit Sinhalese people of Sri Lanka.
Years of kassippu (Alcohol) abuse and Baila Dancing finally showing up.
Mayilrawana, mate you said:
//Rana,
How are you mate. Missed you here. Hopefully you had a good break. I hope you met AGG and he made you have a good hearty laugh.
Hope you are feeling well.//
Thanks for your kind words, brother.
Just came home from Melb: city, some shopping for ladies in Victoria market and good sinhala curry meal from "CURRY BOWL" at Elizibeth street, down town.
Yes, had a good time with AGG and Saman, another one week here and back to usual routine.
You are doing great, keep it up.
priyashantha, if you google your mom's name and somehow that got linked in to a porn site, what do you call her?
Moshe,
Please machan. Leave it with the gay thing. There are some fish here to fry.
Pukaseethala and Puchisilu have just graduated form possible to probable Puddy Tats. They inadvertently or not, lifted their dresses a tad too high to show just the glimpse of striped petticoats.
In my observations here you and Asthiri are my sensitive instruments (if I may use the term). You always appear to pick on puddy tats early before anyone else has a chance.
In my view (despite your respected opinion) Wijayapala is still only in the possible category. He could very well be doing very important patriotic activity elsewhere according to Rana. So to me he is a brother.
But these two love birds of Bhairav (did you notice how Bhairav pointedly distances humself from them at an important juncture when they were gossiping while Zohan- aka- Asthiri was away?). Only thing was he was gloating a bit too much about it. I suspected them then but the likelihood that they were just a couple of testosterone-high school boys was possible. But what Hemantha says is correct. They have been trying to pick one patriot at a time and making it look like like petulance. Very clever.
I think Bhairav anna and may be even Nuttindran may be sitting at a panel coaching these guys behind the key boards.
C'Mon LTTE annas you can come out now. Your love birds have been caught.
Jay said...
[- I'm reliably informed the late LK (Foreign Minister) did a deal with USA,UK,India and other influential countries not to proscribe LTTE in SL in return for those countries to ban the LTTE and bring about the pressure on the terror establishment on funding etc etc]
I have not heard anthing concrete on such an agreement between LK and USA,UK,India. I have heard of exasperated announcements by representatives of Western countries in public fora that the GOSL is asking them to take steps which the GOSL itself has not taken, or is willing to take, in Sri Lanka. To me, it has always seemed quite unreasonable; and as reflecting the disunity and the stupidity of our own politicians. In any case, the entire global climate against terrorism has now changed; no country (except Tamil Nadu) will now oppose proscription of the LTTE on any grounds. Terrorism in far-off largely forgotten backwaters of the world are coming home to roost in the developed countries of the world, and their self-interest in survival is now at stake. It is only a case of whose ox is being gored at any given time.
[- USA, UK and more particularly India will want concrete guarantees from GOSL that tamils (liberated from the north) are able to move freely in SL and not subject to registration and other restrictions recently placed on tamils in the South.
(understandably a tall order)]
Which country, that is facing terrorism as SL has, can give such guarantees? In the US, habeas corpus and many other civil rights were suspended after 9/11, as part of the Patriot Act. In the wake of the Mumbai attack, India's Lok Sabha has just past a severe Prevention of Terrorism act, giving many powers to the security forces that infringe on the rights of citizens. India has for years enforced such laws in Jammu & Kashmir. It is not that all Moslems in J&K are terrorists, but all terrorists in J&K are Moslems. In Israel, there is a very rigorous pass system in place for Palestinians to control terrorism. It is not that all Palestinians are terrorists, but that all terrorists in Israel are Palestenians. In Iraq, the US not only fired all Baath party members from their jobs, but blacklisted them from all government employment. Finally, how many 9/11's and Mumbai's has SL suffered in the last 25 years?
Finally, like the GOSL, I differentiate between innocent law-abiding Tamil citizens, and Tamil terrorists. The problem is, that while all Tamils are not terrorists, all SL terrorists are Tamils. Without documentation, how are we to distinguish between these two groups? Every LTTE cadre we are capturing claims to have been conscripted, and every refugee claims to be fleeing the LTTE, but I very much doubt this. Hidden among them are the urban guerillas of the future. So what do you do; just trust them and free them, or institute a system of control and monitoring that can be gradually relaxed in time, as they show themselves to be deserving? Tough times, call for equally tough regulations; only people who have never lived through such situations, or want to keep our society vulnerable to acts of random terrorism, ask for the dismantling of reasonable security safeguards and placing the lives of innocent people at risk.
I think, in the current climate of global terrorism, the international community will understand this. The GOSL could convene an international conference, including countries that face the same problem, and pose the question to them: What safeguards would you implement to protect your people. With the monkey placed on their own scarred backs, I guarantee you that any reasonable GOSL proposal will be vindicated. It is question of how smartly and reasonably we approach the problem, to win the consent of the global community, to solve this very difficult problem of maintaining both security and democratic freedoms in a country beset by terrorism.
[- Following the liberation of the North, i wonder if USA/Uk/EU and/or India would allow another "gun totting democracy" thats happening in the east of SL.
Regrettably I'm not very optimistic we are out of the woods. GOSL has lost so much credibility with the international community it requires someone with a strong will, interlect and determination to knock some sense into both sides.]
I disagree that GoSL has "lost credibility with the international community." On the contrary, with the way the GoSL has conducted this war, it has gained in stature and credibility. As I said before, every country beset by terrorism will be an enthusiastic supporter of Sri Lanka.
Regarding whether the US/UK/EU and/or India would allow a "gun toting democracy" in SL, the days of the armed TMVP cadre is only a temporary phenomenon, to enable their survival in the face of LTTE cadre infiltration. Even as I write, the plan is to disarm the TMVP, inducting some of them into other SLA units. Hopefully, this will be done in a way, where they are a very small minority in each unit, thus preventing their coalescence back into solely TMVP units.
The bigger question of whether the US/UK/EU and/or India will permit a "gun toting democracy" as you term it, in Sri Lanka as a whole, with a large permanent SLDF of 500,000 and a 4,000,000 man National Guard (including every able bodied adult citizen) as I have proposed here, and elsewhere, the answer is in two parts:
India will oppose it, because they would like to keep Sri Lanka permanently under their thumb forever to manipulate as it wishes like a puppet on a string. Here, we have to reassure India that we are no threat to India, and will help defend India's security as if were our own. However, given that we cannot rely on India for our defence, as the past has amply proven, SL has to go ahead with developing a military capability similar to Israel's that can withstand all regional threats to our security.
To be able to do so, we have to develop economic and military alliances with other powerful countries in the world, including the superpowers, for alliances change with the direction of the wind, but national interests are permanent. If Sri Lanka does this wisely, participating in UN peacekeeping missions, in anti-pirate patrols offshore Somalia, and developing bilateral and multi-lateral military collaborations, being a good global citizen avoiding demonization and creation of unnecessary enemies, but always keeping up a strong defense establishment, Sri Lanka will succeed in defusing all opposition to creating and maintaining a large military self-defense force. The key to maintaining military strength is economic strength. The military establishment can be structured to contribute to the economic vitality of the country by training the citizenry in military related scientific and engineering skills, in military R&D, manufacturing and construction skills, and developing a defense industry to offset its own cost. Israel is the best example of a small country that has succeeded in achieving this goal, that Sri Lanka should emulate.
The next step, should be to break away completely from past policies geared to "devolution of power to ethnic minorities" and to replace it with a concept of one country, one multi-ethnic people, one set of rights, and one set of responsibilities for all citizens.
To this end, the goal should be to dismantle all existing ethnic structures, adopt educational and governance framework and policies that lead to, as far as possible, a homogeneous mix of people throughout the land. No more Jaffna Tamils who have never sat side-by-side with Sinhala people in their formative childhood years, and no more Ruhunu Sinhalese who have never set eyes on a Tamil. We have to move away from large ethnically constituted provinces under the control of ethnic leaders who will work to further embed and strengthen ethnic divisions, into smaller districts, cities, towns and villages where leaders are elected to government based on universal franchise.
It is not a question of "being allowed" to do any of these things, but of having the vision, the will, and the determination to do whatever is necessary to ensure the future survival and prosperity of our country and our people. Those who dare the impossible, may succeed, those who do not will never know.
Moshe,
"hemantha,
i BADLY wanted to jump in too.
but i resisted.
responding to them makes them feel important.
you jumped in with good intentions; to point out a fact. but then what happened...........#$^%&%^&*."
a prophetic observation. Thank you.
hi Guys,
Hope all yoiu knew about the navy victory,but guys these are not ships, actualy these are little bit bigger than trawlers but def. it can carry at least 4 to 5 days stock.
few weeks before they got130 and 120 mm ..may be big ship in some where the indian shallowwater any way def navy will take this too.
15th dec we have gained aniother war ship(110m) from the india will start it usual routing may be first week of january.teretery getting smaller day by day.
there no point to give credit to the our forces now they are clearly the far best than any one in the world.for all bogger who speaking about LTTE i have very fresh news that chille yoiu up[.
WE ARE GETTING 6NEW DWORAS FROM THE FRIENDLY COUNTRY..FUN ISNT IT..BUT THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IS ONLY THING WE NEED TO GIVE THEM ONLY A SECURITY PLAN THATS THE DEAL..I DONT WANT TO MESS YOU GUYS I AM NOT TELLING THE COUNTRY..NOW AFTER SO MANY OF YEARS THIS IS THE SITUATION.NO WORRY ABOUT THE WAR IT WILL END..DO NOT WASTE YOUR TIME TO TELL SLA CASULATIS ..SIMPLY WE ARE MUCH BIGGER THAN YOU THINK..MUCH BETTER ARMOURED YOU EVER DREAM..
Guys
The largest geopolitical forces in the world are interested in keeping Sri Lanka one country. They have their reasons. These global players are far more powerful than whatever the diaspora can cook up if the LTTE threat is finished off.
Thats all I will say.
Remember the old saying,......
"Countries have no friends, they only have interests."
This saying was true in the past centuries, is true today and will be true in the future.
I think our old friend CrimeWash is back with a new identity.
Rana,
Are you still in Melbourne? may be I can come down= (in my private jet heh heh). Is there a non-traceable e-mail I can contact you on?
mean while last week we have lost anothr brave copral and 2nd LT. in south of kili.who hits sigle handedly to the enemy for more than 4 days contnuisly.
there will be a day you will be remebered as true sons for the motherlanka.
Ravana my young brother,
You make an old man very happy.
Heeeee Hooooo
guys,
One dog barked:
//"Aney balu keri ganda gahana patta vesige putho, who the hell are you to talk about morals?"//
Read the above and judge yourself guys, whether, I am wrong.
These are the dogs, we should chased out from the blog.
Sumanadasa Wijayapala,
Too similar to Wickramabahu Karunarathna.
mayil,
very sorry, mate. i have stopped that.
Mayilrawana,
//Rana,
Are you still in Melbourne? may be I can come down= (in my private jet heh heh). Is there a non-traceable e-mail I can contact you on?//
use this:ranakamee@gmail.com
However, don't expect prompt reply, as I am on the run till 5th January.
Sujeewa and Moshe,
I hope GSL has been planning for this moment (i.e. going after the diasporic treat after the cats paw is cut off).
I think guys like Dayan Jayathileke (btw JVP hate his guts), Rajeeva Wijesinghe and Palitha Kohona have already been on to it. If we can do our bit we should also. If GR asks I am ready.
last week every day 10/11 air sorties...i saw one pilot geetting a cup of tea in between the 2 sorties sitting his cockpit. this is the reality every ones wants to finish this,,finish this as quick as possible..
now to sad stoty guys,
lastw eek awe have lost one whole platoon 0f 47.in side the north of parantha.when this platoon hits the field they saw more than 100 of ltte carde runnig for their lives..unfortunetly SLA never thouhght abouth the tactics..they ran and folow them ..its too late when they saw another line of ltted hiding in tha ame places.sometime too much moral badly hit us in last few months.brain matters most not the heart in battle field.
ok guys please restrict you travellimng for at least 2months.not onlyin colombo everywhere in srilanka.
where's Rana,
hardly anaything about him
Jay said...
[- I'm reliably informed the late LK (Foreign Minister) did a deal with USA,UK,India and other influential countries not to proscribe LTTE in SL in return for those countries to ban the LTTE and bring about the pressure on the terror establishment on funding etc etc]
I have not heard anthing concrete on such an agreement between LK and USA,UK,India. I have heard of exasperated announcements by representatives of Western countries in public fora that the GOSL is asking them to take steps which the GOSL itself has not taken, or is willing to take, in Sri Lanka. To me, it has always seemed quite unreasonable; and as reflecting the disunity and the stupidity of our own politicians. In any case, the entire global climate against terrorism has now changed; no country (except Tamil Nadu) will now oppose proscription of the LTTE on any grounds. Terrorism in far-off largely forgotten backwaters of the world are coming home to roost in the developed countries of the world, and their self-interest in survival is now at stake. It is only a case of whose ox is being gored at any given time.
[- USA, UK and more particularly India will want concrete guarantees from GOSL that tamils (liberated from the north) are able to move freely in SL and not subject to registration and other restrictions recently placed on tamils in the South
(understandably a tall order)]
Which country, that is facing terrorism as SL has, can give such guarantees? In the US, habeas corpus and many other civil rights were suspended after 9/11, as part of the Patriot Act. In the wake of the Mumbai attack, India's Lok Sabha has just past a severe Prevention of Terrorism act, giving many powers to the security forces that infringe on the rights of citizens. India has for years enforced such laws in Jammu & Kashmir. It is not that all Moslems in J&K are terrorists, but all terrorists in J&K are Moslems. In Israel, there is a very rigorous pass system in place for Palestinians to control terrorism. It is not that all Palestinians are terrorists, but that all terrorists in Israel are Palestenians. In Iraq, the US not only fired all Baath party members from their jobs, but blacklisted them from all government employment. Finally, how many 9/11's and Mumbai's has SL suffered in the last 25 years?
Finally, like the GOSL, I differentiate between innocent law-abiding Tamil citizens, and Tamil terrorists. The problem is, that while all Tamils are not terrorists, all SL terrorists are Tamils. Without documentation, how are we to distinguish between these two groups? Every LTTE cadre we are capturing claims to have been conscripted, and every refugee claims to be fleeing the LTTE, but I very much doubt this. Hidden among them are the urban guerillas of the future. So what do you do; just trust them and free them, or institute a system of control and monitoring that can be gradually relaxed in time, as they show themselves to be deserving? Tough times, call for equally tough regulations; only people who have never lived through such situations, or want to keep our society vulnerable to acts of random terrorism, ask for the dismantling of reasonable security safeguards and placing the lives of innocent people at risk.
I think, in the current climate of global terrorism, the international community will understand this. The GOSL could convene an international conference, including countries that face the same problem, and pose the question to them: What safeguards would you implement to protect your people. With the monkey placed on their own scarred backs, I guarantee you that any reasonable GOSL proposal will be vindicated. It is question of how smartly and reasonably we approach the problem, to win the consent of the global community, to solve this very difficult problem of maintaining both security and democratic freedoms in a country beset by terrorism.
[- Following the liberation of the North, i wonder if USA/Uk/EU and/or India would allow another "gun totting democracy" thats happening in the east of SL.
Regrettably I'm not very optimistic we are out of the woods. GOSL has lost so much credibility with the international community it requires someone with a strong will, interlect and determination to knock some sense into both sides.]
I disagree that GoSL has "lost credibility with the international community." On the contrary, with the way the GoSL has conducted this war, it has gained in stature and credibility. As I said before, every country beset by terrorism will be an enthusiastic supporter of Sri Lanka.
Regarding whether the US/UK/EU and/or India would allow a "gun toting democracy" in SL, the days of the armed TMVP cadre is only a temporary phenomenon, to enable their survival in the face of LTTE cadre infiltration. Even as I write, the plan is to disarm the TMVP, inducting some of them into other SLA units. Hopefully, this will be done in a way, where they are a very small minority in each unit, thus preventing their coalescence back into solely TMVP units.
The bigger question of whether the US/UK/EU and/or India will permit a "gun toting democracy" as you term it, in Sri Lanka as a whole, with a large permanent SLDF of 500,000 and a 4,000,000 man National Guard (including every able bodied adult citizen) as I have proposed here, and elsewhere, the answer is in two parts:
India will oppose it, because they would like to keep Sri Lanka permanently under their thumb forever to manipulate as it wishes like a puppet on a string. Here, we have to reassure India that we are no threat to India, and will help defend India's security as if were our own. However, given that we cannot rely on India for our defence, as the past has amply proven, SL has to go ahead with developing a military capability similar to Israel's that can withstand all regional threats to our security.
To be able to do so, we have to develop economic and military alliances with other powerful countries in the world, including the superpowers, for alliances change with the direction of the wind, but national interests are permanent. If Sri Lanka does this wisely, participating in UN peacekeeping missions, in anti-pirate patrols offshore Somalia, and developing bilateral and multi-lateral military collaborations, being a good global citizen avoiding demonization and creation of unnecessary enemies, but always keeping up a strong defense establishment, Sri Lanka will succeed in defusing all opposition to creating and maintaining a large military self-defense force. The key to maintaining military strength is economic strength. The military establishment can be structured to contribute to the economic vitality of the country by training the citizenry in military related scientific and engineering skills, in military R&D, manufacturing and construction skills, and developing a defense industry to offset its own cost. Israel is the best example of a small country that has succeeded in achieving this goal, that Sri Lanka should emulate.
The next step, should be to break away completely from past policies geared to "devolution of power to ethnic minorities" and to replace it with a concept of one country, one multi-ethnic people, one set of rights, and one set of responsibilities for all citizens.
To this end, the goal should be to dismantle all existing ethnic structures, adopt educational and governance framework and policies that lead to, as far as possible, a homogeneous mix of people throughout the land. No more Jaffna Tamils who have never sat side-by-side with Sinhala people in their formative childhood years, and no more Ruhunu Sinhalese who have never set eyes on a Tamil. We have to move away from large ethnically constituted provinces under the control of ethnic leaders who will work to further embed and strengthen ethnic divisions, into smaller districts, cities, towns and villages where leaders are elected to government based on universal franchise.
It is not a question of "being allowed" to do any of these things, but of having the vision, the will, and the determination to do whatever is necessary to ensure the future survival and prosperity of our country and our people. Those who dare the impossible, may succeed, those who do not will never know.
Rear Cold,
I searched it, nothing came up.
But when I searched your mother's name, I got the following.
"A luxury brothel house was raided by the Welikada police on Friday. Six prostitutes, (deleted because it had your mother's name) from the outstations (in the age group of 20 to 25) were arrested and brought to the Welikada police station.
The owner is a reputed attorney-at-law in Battaramulla. The brothel is situated at Attygalle Mawatha, in close proximity to the Welikada police station.
The raid was conducted under the supervision of OIC, Welikada, Sagara Liyanage. He said the raid was conducted after a surveillauce report submitted by a police decay.
The police party which conducted the raid included, IP, Francis, SI, Kahandawela, SI, Ratnasinghe, Sgt. Vijith Ananda, PCs Dharmasena, Saman and WPCs, Menike and Akila."
Priya and Mayil,
I think Moshe is correct.
ravana,
How are you mate? I am reading the blog time to time, brother. but no time to post much, when you are holidaying with wife and children.
I will be back to normal after 5th Jan.
Keep it up brother and give as good as you get to pussy cats.
Ananda-USA,
regarding your reply to Jay, beautifully put. I generally don't read the cut and paster's posts. He makes it easy by putting it in bold.
I personally think that one does not necessarily need to target ethnic groups to search for terras. On the contrary it might be better to do some statistical analysis and predictive modelling to identify likely neighbourhoods in which terras could be found. Such neighbourhoods will in general include large proportions of Tamil speaking people.
I don't think Sri Lankan citizens will mind the inconvenience of House to House searches provided the "officers" concerned are courteous. I have implied the need for this to Defence Dep. I hope they have taken note.
As you know there is a lot that could be done to ensure a smooth process occurs here. If SL can do this successfully in manner that is acceptable to citizens and in particualr to Tamil citizens then the method could me exported (;).
/ReallyCold said...
Peter
You will be fertilizer one day as well./
Unfortunately, not for his homelessland - to New Malden.
Patriots,
This "gay rights" issue is a red herring dumped on this blog by you-know-who to drag down the patriots, and disrupt the blog.
Just ignore this irrelevant issue!
Pissululu = Rear Cold
Or are they two lesbos? Where are the whores anyay?
After I exposed Rear Cold, she quitely vanished. Now she will come just for a cheap show.
Hemantha,
Got it.
But monkeys are fun.
MayilRavana said...
[I personally think that one does not necessarily need to target ethnic groups to search for terras. On the contrary it might be better to do some statistical analysis and predictive modelling to identify likely neighbourhoods in which terras could be found. Such neighbourhoods will in general include large proportions of Tamil speaking people.
I don't think Sri Lankan citizens will mind the inconvenience of House to House searches provided the "officers" concerned are courteous. I have implied the need for this to Defence Dep. I hope they have taken note.
As you know there is a lot that could be done to ensure a smooth process occurs here. If SL can do this successfully in manner that is acceptable to citizens and in particualr to Tamil citizens then the method could me exported (;).]
Good ideas, brother.
In fact, it would be good to ask some non-TNA Tamil leaders for their input what they would do to secure the country against terrorist infiltration. Most law-abiding Tamils are sick of this conflict, and they may provide some good suggestions.
MayilRavana,
"On the contrary it might be better to do some statistical analysis and predictive modelling to identify likely neighbourhoods in which terras could be found. Such neighbourhoods will in general include large proportions of Tamil speaking people."
What would the input parameters into the model be? ethnicity, income, occupation, education level, family size? Anyway, ethinicty will explain most of the variation. So modelling will not be useful for Sri Lanka's terrorist problem. For other nations, where terrorists/criminals are homogenized, it is useful to model (in fact it is done!).
Oho,
Another self appointed exposer to catch tigers. Be real man, if you are so good, help police to catch real disguised bastards who are trying to blow innocent people in Colombo, rather than attacking true patriots.
Or keep quite for sake of everybody else.
c'mon guys Sri Lanka's economy is 32 Billion USD and 1 Billion is 1,000 million!!! Our defence budget alone is 1.5 Billion USD. Someone here estimated annual Diaspora contribution as 300 million USD. If he's true then diaspora contributes only 20% of Sri Lanka's defence budget.
/Pansilu said...
Mayila,
I always suspected that you are nothing but a pretender who is trying hard to be an academic but only managed a clown dance without cloths in public./
WOW what a great job! I am very convinced now M-Ravana is a pretender and not an academic, and also what a nice way to find it. You have saved millions people fooled by him. Pansilu, keep up your good work.. expose all others who pretend to be academics, professionals, etc. People in this blog, I am sure, are very much interested in knowing that.
Hemantha Bro,
I know it. But I took on the burden of herding cats at inception.
It is something I feel compelled to do.
I have been watching these guys since the unfortunate Asthiri-Rana incident. This was heart-breaking for many of us to see injuries on Knights. I know they have both been privately counseled by brothers.
However, these two (Punchi and Seethala) have been at it ever since. They use a primitive but very effective technique called “splitting”. This involves going after and isolating individuals in a group. They may niggle them until something gives and sit back and enjoy. The British used this effectively in the “Divide-and-Rule” policy.
There are one of two things that they do to the isolated individual. Either they idealise (seduce) him/her by making the person feel special, the only one who understands or they devalue (villify) and encourage some disemboweling from others while they do it in tandem. It is most important that those who feel seduced guard against it and for all to come to the aid of a brother who is being targeted for vilification.
That is the best way of dealing with those who utilise splitting against a team. The team must stand together. It is important that the brothers are in general aware of this technique.
/Upul said...
Huge explosion... VVIP was targeted in Wattala./
/LTTE suicide bomb blast near Catholic Church ; 6 killed, 19 injured- Wattala /
1 soldier and 5 CDF guys VVIP to Upul.. Anyway Sirasta Naththal and Happy (late) X-Mas to Upul too
Guys,
When ever a new confident patriot tried to make stand without licking some senior bloggers arse. They immediately suspect his/her motives and brand him as a tiger mole.
Well, because of that some good patriots could not post freely here.
All senior blogger, we don't care how long you have been blogging or who you know from other blogs.
Stop being paranoids. Let others to post their voice freely.
You have no rights to judge others whether they are sinhala or tamil.
Who are these self appointed guardians:
If you have just 2-3 weeks experience here, you know who!!!
Moshe & others,
Regarding arms shipments:
The vigilance of India, together with the shallow western seas off Sri Lanka forced the terrorists to limit most of the gun-running activity (that involves large ships) to the Eastern coast.
With the fall of the western seaboard, the terrorists are faced with the monumental task of landing guns on the Eastern seas that are now heavily patrolled by the SLN.
My major concern is that they may be able to get some MBRLs to fight us, which will see our causalities soar disproportionately (simply as there are more of us involved in a defensive role in this conflict).
There are still loopholes in the Navy (DW can actually tell us all about these if they wish, but they mostly highlight the failures of SLAF), which the terrorists exploit routinely; and these need to be plugged. Reliable intelligence is the key for this of course.
It is not just a random event that MR's son joined the Navy. Think of the period he joined, and what the Navy has done lately, and the potential for the Navy to do well.
Boyz,
I think you will all enjoy it. This is a video about Cat-Herding
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pk7yqlTMvp8
Enjoy.
/Heavy fighting in A'lampil, Tigers seize arms, recover 16 SLA bodies/ - monkeynet
Pre-new year dose .. Why monkeys are late? They are supposed to come here by this time and teach lessons in English to singala modayas. May be waiting for pics.. Anyway let's expect the monkey show soon..
My condolences to the families of victims at Wattala.
In the past two years there has been immediate retaliation in terms of bombing of LTTE targets. This is a good anti-terra tatic as the terras got it worse than what they gave. E.G. Assassination of Tamilselvan.
Now Security Forces have less options. They have civilians in Vanni to protect. However, what Ananda-USA said has to be put to action so that there can be (hoepfully) proaction rather than rection. But if reaction is all that's left, then react swiftly and efficiently, leaving law-abiding citizens with little inconvenience and yet netting multiple terras. Preferably, this should happen routinely (proactively).
Ninja,
Mate, do not come to conclusions hastily, read and watch the blog for few more weeks.
I know man of your intelligence, could make a better judgement later.
I do not attack any body without a good reason but try to ridicule some for obvious reasons.
Check our words and meaning, compsre it with others, you will understand.
mayil & rover,
but if the model uses such fields like places terrorists lived/stayed, areas they met, areas they hid weapons, areas that provide support infrastructure, areas that can hide an outside easily, where the terrorists can easily intermingle with others, areas that can provide regional political support for protection, etc. then it will be very handy.
actually there are such models in SL as i know. of course not in readily usable formats!!! they have been very effective.
another example is the east. a few weeks back SLDFs, etc. killed a large number of infiltrators in execution style. after that LTTE activities have become almost zero. SLDFs, etc. knew exacty the neighbourhoods where troublemakres frequented. action was not taken bcos civilians were also involved.
but then the boiling point was reached.
after all terrorists also feel "out of place".
getting ppl's co-operation is most important. however, ppl are not going to co-operate unless,
the cost of co-operation < k * the cost of non co-operation.
for them.
where k is a "constant".
we need to increase "k" as required.
e.g. if harbouring a terrorist is a crime where the culprit can easily escape the legal process (this is the case), and "other" processes then "k" is very low.
there was a time when the govt itself ridiculed search operations! then "k" goes to decimals!
/Pansilu said...
You have no rights to judge others whether they are sinhala or tamil./
/Pansilu said...
Moshi,
You are the most interesting character in the blog. You don’t have to reply, I can study your character from your postings. Though you hide behind a name of a one eyed general, your true character is quite different. You are shy, fearful and easily alarmed but opportunely.
Sam Perera,
I would like to drop you from my list but learn to overcome unnecessary fear for trivial things.
cheers
Rana,
Very complicated, some times like a violent storm, after a while serenity is over pouring and most of the time calm and collective. Are you taking tranquillizers to overcome anxiety? You are not moved that much on my presence but careless answer.
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MayilRawana,
I am not an academic and you have slight multiple personality problem. Take a deep breath and think about two different chairs before you sit down.
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Amma Gahai/Gahawi,
Sorry, friend, I am not interested in your behaviour patterns. Your approach to badminton is also quite normal to me. Though you are showing some form of mental sickness, it is not serious but cannot reveal it, in a public forum.
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/Pansilu said
Stop being paranoids. Let others to post their voice freely/
Enjoy..
Rana,
have sent a message. Baya wenna epa. Onnan tikak Hina wenna.
Patriot Anand-USA,
"Patriots,
This "gay rights" issue is a red herring dumped on this blog by you-know-who to drag down the patriots, and disrupt the blog."
I didn't know that lord Valdamort was real!
isurujosh,
yes.
but the comparison is wrong.
1. LTTE has VERY little to spend on other than weapons.
no salaries. food; hospitals; medicine thanks to GOSL.
2. the bulk of SLDFs budget is for salaries!!!!!! budget other than salaries is only $500 m (roughly)
3. defence capital budget is less than $200 m of the $1.5 b which is smaller than LTTE's annual collection.
4. to fight a terror/rebel group roughly 3 - 22 times more manpower, etc. is required.
5. when 4 is applied to 2 above, we MAY need 3*300 - 22* 300 = $900m - $6.6b a year.
but we have only $500m for that!!!!!
look at it another way.
LTTE is the 2nd richest terrorist group in the world but SL is not the 2nd richest country fighting terror!!
hope it is clear.
this is typical of human behavior.... we are living from one crisis to another, with out some crisis, fight, cause to fight for, idea to defend most of us feel a sense of unworthiness...its as if our mundane "normal life" is not interesting enough, so we hide behind nicknames ,online personalities and handles and fight for various causes and beliefs.....
When we have a common enemy we get behind a common cause and fight, but take away that common threat to our continued existance infighting begins....
(Looking at the blog, I guess we can find parallels to what happened to the LTTE in the peace-talk times, with the infighting and the eventual departure of karuna, the same phenomena in a smaller and less violent way is happening here.... no blood is shed, but words, sentences and arguments thrown around in plenty....)
"LTTE is the 2nd richest terrorist group in the world but SL is not the 2nd richest country fighting terror!!"
Very well put Moshe. Usually a handful of people can do violent acts through the terrorism (as I always said attacking civilians of a country to attain a political goal). It is indeed scary what so many violent and rich people (this include the LTTE supporting diaspora as well) could do to Sri Lanka. And given the circumstances, GOSL has done well (at a cost to her citizens of course).
isurujosh said...
[c'mon guys Sri Lanka's economy is 32 Billion USD and 1 Billion is 1,000 million!!! Our defence budget alone is 1.5 Billion USD. Someone here estimated annual Diaspora contribution as 300 million USD. If he's true then diaspora contributes only 20% of Sri Lanka's defence budget.]
Your figures are correct, as stated.
But consider this: The GOSL indirectly provides a significant supplement to the LTTE budget not accounted for in the $300 million.
The GOSL provides all of their food, fuel, other essentials, medicines,hospitals, schools, paid all government servants in the North (and the East until recently) who were taxed by the LTTE to supplement their income. The LTTE also collected all NGO and INGO funds, took possession of all of their equipment, including the earth moving equipment now used to build earthbunds, all free of charge.
In addition, their operatives collected contributions from their supporters living in the Sinhala South. From the Federal Govt of India, and from politicians in in Tamil Nadu, such as Karunanidhi, they received millions of dollars in cash and kind.
Furthermore, they generated substantial income from gun-running, people-smuggling, selling false passports and documentation, drug=smuggling and distribution, credit card rip-offs, prostitution, money-laundering and various other illegal businesses and scams. This income probably amounts to $500 million per year.
There is also the value of the free labor provided by the slave laborers who have created the defences, and built the concrete graves, and the labor of all of the fighting cadre, including the suicide Black Tigers, to whom they did not pay a cent. The GOSL, in contrast, has to pay for all of these services.
The sum total value of the DIRECT and INDIRECT (IMPLIED) income well exceeds the $300 million SL Tamil diaspora contribution. I would guesstimate the value between $1.5 and $2.5 billion dollars a year.
As we have seen in the liberated areas, the LTTE spent money only on buying concrete for the grave yards, and buying arms, ammunition, ships, planes, boats, engines, communications equipment and all other essentials of war.
In contrast, the GOSL includes everything directly related to defence in the $1.5 billion budget, and the cost of other infrastructure and government support personnel in other parts of the budget.
A much larger fraction of LTTE's budget was devoted directly to their war effort, whereas a large fraction of Sri Lanka's defence budget is allocated to protecting civilian areas as well.
This illustrates the utter foolishness of the fight-a-little, talk-a-little, feeding and housing the poor terrorists out of our pockect style-of-war that has been pursued by successive Sri Lankan governments over 30 years.
Do you wonder, then, why LTTE agents at this blog consistently call all Sinhala people "Modayas"?
Mayilrawana,
I send you a reply brother, check your mail.
-Rana-
Moshe, you said ...
QUOTE
canada-
tamil diaspora - 400k; nominal GDP per capita - $43k - total economy of them - $17 m
uk -
td - 300k; GDPPC - $46k - TE of the TD - $ 14 m
these twos are $ 31 m which is SL's GDP (nominal)!!!!
UNQUOTE
you have by mistake used millions instead of billions and that is what i tried to correct.
I had fugured out that LTTE's 300m is more or less as explosive as Sri Lanka's 1.5B and that is why I have been consistently talking about the danger posed by the diaspora money. If you observe my few posts you'd see that I never underestimated Tamil diaspora money.
But there is a good news too. The majority of the diaspora's new generation born and raised in western countries don't care much for the cause and are increasingly reluctant to contribute as generously as their predecessors used to.
isurujosh,
you are absolutely right. thanks for pointing out.
guys, my apologies. economy figures are in US$ billions.
ananda-usa,
you are right about the total LTTE earnings. the $300 million is regular contributions from the tamil diaspora ONLY.
LTTE EARNS money on top of that in SL and worldwide.
it was tamils who started calling the A9 highway the kappang highway!!!
PTOMS would have been the icing of the cake!
Ananda, please have a look at my answer to Moshe. I have wanted the correction to be made on the nominal value quoted in his post. eg: 43k$ x 400k population is 17 Billion not 17 Million.
To a critical mind the difference can give a lame impression about our posts and wanted it recognised and rectified before we move forward. I supppose you understood my intentions now :)
sri lanka is the only country that feeds the enemy before they kill them...
tons of parippu and artillery dispatched to wanni at the same time. LOL
like pigs at the butcher(feed them, then kill them)
Hi Rana,
Message sent. Hear from you soon.
"like pigs at the butcher(feed them, then kill them)"
lol!
the fatter and healthier they are the better!!
If my memory serves right. Once Asia Week or some famous mag listed Asia's most powerful persons and it had VP right ahead of CBK. I think one rationale was the financial might of around 1 Billion USD annaully commanded by VP. (Sri Lanka's economy was much larger but the CBK did not command the full wealth)
More importantly we Sri Lankans must now prepare to fight the next chassis fitted with this 1Billion HP engine. Come to think of it. It is the power of a million Veyronnes lol.
Fighting in Alampil north.
Soldiers gone missing presumed dead.
http://www.army.lk/fulsit.php?idx=1173
isurujosh,
Yes, I understand, but my post about the total effective income of the LTTE being much greater than the diaspora contribution is still valid.
Also,your calculation of $17 billion for diaspora salary income would be too high if it assumed that every one of the 400,000 people is a wage earner. If we assume a family unit of 3, and one wage earner per family, then the $17 billion becomes more like $5.7 billion.
The estimates I also have seen being quoted of the diapora LTTE funding is around $300 million. So, the (300*100/17000)= 1.76% contribution from each wage earner (which is too small, I think) increases to 5.3%. This is about right, I think for a family of 3 in US or Canada for whom $43,000 will barely afford a comfortable living.
Four LTTE bodies found in Batti. after the clash.
http://www.army.lk/fulsit.php?idx=1173
Moshe said...
[it was tamils who started calling the A9 highway the kappang highway!!!]
Sorry, I didn't see your post before I submitted my post; we are on the same wavelength.
I had missed the A-9 turnpike "kappang" tolls!
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