3 waves of LTTE attackers were beaten all ends up by the Army's 58 Division today killing an LTTE 'Lieutenant Colonel' in the process as troops came dangerously close to Paranthan. The 'Lieutenant Colonel' trapped and killed by the SLA is thought to be from either Charles Anthony or Imran Pandian Reegiments. His body was taken away by the fleeing Tigers. Except for the leader's loss, the exact casualties to the LTTE in this fight is unknown at this point.
In the Kilinochchi front, the now fully breached L shaped curve of the LTTE's massive earth bund has become a staging area for SLA attacks on the LTTE's last major bastion Kilinochchi. Troops advancing from the western flank of Kilinochchi are around 5km away from the town center by today.
Troops were also 5km away from Mulaitivu Town, which is not very well fortified at the moment. As the 57 aand 58 Divisions held down the enemy, the 59 was able to creep up on the Tigers in Mulaitivu before an earth bund was built at Mullayaveli.
Thursday, December 25, 2008
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Good thoughts about how run a model. My statistical knowledge is just enough to do simplest analyses. Interesting here that SLDF may have played with models.
What you need is powerful computer simulation.
There must be guys among expatriates who could help. Lat Mile and Sujeewa appear to be potentially good hacks. Again SLDF knows best. If they need anyone they would probably contact II hope).
Anyway,
I think I'll call it quits for a little wee while. Better spend some time with the family (and Rana heh heh).
Ananda, the 43k x 400k was not my estimate but of Moshe's. But I can nevertheless defend his calculation by using the definition of per capita income. Per capita income is calculated by dividing the total output(GDP) by population irrespective of whether they are employed or not. Accordingly a family of three's income would not be 43K alone but 129k. So the definition of per capita income refutes your argument and validates Moshe's figures. But I have my own reservations about Moshe's figures becuase the more representative PPP Per-Capita income of a Canadian is not 43k but 38k. But here we do not talk about Economic lessons so I wish to rest my case :). Important thing to conclude here is that apart from the mixup of billions and millions, Moshe's statements represnets the ground level picture correctly.
isurujosh said...
[If my memory serves right. Once Asia Week or some famous mag listed Asia's most powerful persons and it had VP right ahead of CBK. I think one rationale was the financial might of around 1 Billion USD annaully commanded by VP. (Sri Lanka's economy was much larger but the CBK did not command the full wealth)]
Slave labor, milked by a mafia like team of slave-masters, whether it is in the developed world, or in Sri Lanka's Vanni, seems to be a very effective enterprise-tool for raising cash, ON DEMAND, shall we say!
However, when the safe haven in the Vanni comes to an end, countries that sheltered and coddled the LTTE are going to rue the day they allowed this particular venomous snake to feed and grow in their bosom.
Ananda, I always believe in "...coming home to roost". It has happened to all sponsors of terrorism. Simply look at my reply to Indira.
isurujosh,
Only the top 15.73% of families in the US make over $100,000 per year, and I doubt that a family of three in Canada would make $129,000 per year.
In 2007, the median US annual household income was $50,233.00 according to the Census Bureau, and the average family income in was about $72,400 (see below). Incomes in Canada would be somewhat lower in USD.
US Household Income
There is something definitely wrong in using an income of $43,000 per person based on the GDP for making this estimate. It is simply too high.
Yes Ananda, you are right when we take into account the distribution of income.
Moshe,
//Moshe said...
[it was tamils who started calling the A9 highway the kappang highway!!!]//
Well done, brother, I see your strategy, it is good and effective.
Keep it up brother.
Patriots and self-made Landless people,
Hope all had a fa...ntastic X'mas.
Rana and I had a good couple of hours yesterday.
"According to intelligence, out of about 800 square kilometers , the Tigers are now preparing an inner 300 square kilometer defensive fortification behind Iranamadu, Kalmadu, Viswamadu and Muttyankaddu tanks, and also covering Oddusudan North, Mulliyawalai north and stretching to Mulaitivu coast."
Well, Peelam is good 1.2% of land mass of Mother Lanka.
1. Vezapulle was asked to govern NORTH-EAST for 10 years by CBK(unelected but appointed) - Rejected by VP
2. LTTE was offered merged NE on a platter with a Federal model) - Rejected by VP
No wonder Sakkiliyas here call us "modayas". But feeling is mutual now. Time to address all teras "self-made landless people".
AnandaUSA and MyileRawana,
Timely discussion on how to mop-up LTTE infiltrators/sympathizes. I agree with both in principle but not the instruments. Statistical models are hopeless in explaining and negating behaviours of negative social elements. Proven tool are the rule of Law and Civil movements and education. I am for two steps,
1. Proscribe LTTE and constitutionalize separatism as a crime of the highest order in the land. Associations with LTTE/separatism would become punishable by severe penalties including freezing assets, imprisonment even death (at the moment Terrorist Prevention Act + white vans doing the job. But one day we need to get back to civil laws).
2. Educate and engage Tamil civil societies to look-after their own backyard and reward those who do a good job of it.
3. Bring leaders of NGO’s (and if possible INGO) to books if there is misappropriation of funds.
To supporters of “self-made landless people”,
Give-up LTTE come back to mainstream.
Good morning patriots.
isurujosh, Moshe,
Sorry to bug you both, but this has piqued my interest...
I now know why the Per-Capita GDP income is too high for making our estimate.
It includes the value of all goods and services produced not only by individuals but also by companies, whereas we are trying to form an estimate based on the ability of each wage earner to contribute to the LTTE.
As such, the correct income to use should be based on the total diaspora population and the estimated number of people per family to yield the number of diaspora families, and the income per family. Corporate earnings do not affect this calculation.
Indira,
Admirable post, brother.
You are doing a good job, keep it up, I am bit intoxicated for serious posts.
Don't forget, I am on my well earned holiday and do not like to spoil it too much.
Wow!
AK LMGs.
http://www.puthinam.com/full.php?22ImUcc3oV34dB1e302AOI4d3Yc40aU6D2e2RMM3b34ASe
Thanks.
Guys, I blew "Indira" by mistake.
Indira was created by me to bring up a discussion on Indian plans on Sri Lanka after LTTE.
My appologies. I will come back with some other idea.
LTTE with Advani the ex-prime minster of BJP. Having played Tamil Nadu card, the degenerates going behind the Indian opposition.
LTTE running behind BJP
It seems Tamil Tiger tongue always up someone's butt crack. Having licked the Nowegians, the Congress, the western world now the turn of BJP.
Ninja,
Almost wrong again, "THAMATH WALAKULU WALA WAGEI" brother, if you have patience, it will help you immensly.
You may have heard the say, "HANGI HANGI WES BANDATH NATANNA WENNE ELIYE".
Time will solve all problems!
"LIHANNA THIYENA MALLA OBANNE MOKATADA"
OR, Would I should say keep quite.
Samana,
I noticed it immediately but I don't think anybody else.
You should have carry on as nothing as happened.
Any way all history now, you have to kill saman and indira both. Reincarnation is the best medicine for the time being.
Guys,
LakbimaNews defence column says;
"....As mortars rained down on the troops, the Tigers used a T.55 main battle tank to direct fire at the army defence line. This was the first time in recent times that the LTTE used a tank against the troops...."
This was also mentioned in Rivira by Tissa Ravindra Perera.
DW,
Any comment on this? seems like they have at least one (captured?) tank in use...!!
Rana,
Where are you! Stop goofing off and join the fray!
We are missing you!
Absence, they say, makes the heart grow fonder!
DW,
Some bad news from A'lampil reported in Tamilnut. Any light?
The entire road from Puliyankulam to Nedunkerni captured by the SLA!
This means that the blue-colored "Area of Influence" in the Battle Map south of this road is completely cutoff from the A-34 road.
Tigers didnt loose Mulliyawalai they made a tactical withdrawal :)
Tigers reserve the right to make further tactical withdrawals if necessary
Oh brothers tigers didnt loose Tanniyuttu. Big lie. They made a tactical withdrawal :D
They want to get moda money from moda tamils oversease
ATTENTION: tigers in killi looking for a better place to do a tactical withdrawal to.
IMPORTANT: new place must not have SL army people
vanakkam modayas
december 27 maha moda day for doing maha tactical withdrawals
brothers we should celebrate :)
Ananada,
My brother, please give me some time to be with family, priority number one. I am asking for only one more week.
Mate, bear wih me, family obligations come first. I am with you all by my heart and soul but cannot post regularly due to constantly being out with the family. I assure you, I am having a jolly good time with my loved ones.
Can anybody ask for more than that?
Let me sum up an answer/comment to many issues at once.
Firstly the comparison of SL's GDP and Grossly Demonic Procurement collection of pussycats. I appreciate the ideas of all, but numbers are immaterial here. As per some defense magazine [Jane whatever] pussycats collect $300mil from abroad of which only 8mil is spent on non-weaponry spending [salaries etc]. As you pointed out some more come from extortion in SL.
I don't want to even compare with SL budget. This money of pussycat procurement collection is demonic on its own.
Now in the aftermath of possible sudden demise of pussycats this will be spent on countless lawyers and politicians to justify eelam. To change laws at world level in order to make room for their sadistic dream. This is the issue that I wanted to raise.
And for that they need the pussycats to be a past. Note that war can end only the pussycats. If we end them suddenly diaspora need is fulfilled. This is why I relieve all my anger and hatred with Fatpig and pussycats. Fatpig has to be alive for another good 20years at a place where he matters least [ex Norway]. He can't come out anyway so that makes it better. We need the hit-and-run pussycats to end gradually, maybe in another 10 years.
Not only that it will tie the demon generation of diaspora but also it will keep SLDF in check. I don;'t think post-SF SLDF will be this high in quality w/o a reason to be so. This is what Ananda is stating, but we can't expect such good thinking in next commanders and politicians can we?
In another 25years this generation of diaspora will end and the next will find Nov 27th as a papa's fanzy day which they use to convince the sexy tamil chic for dating. Until then they should live with the bastard child of their past, the pussycats. We should not kill the bastard for them to walk in red carpet of next marriage.
For infighting I should say I always read ideas, neither ppl nor words. So I'm fine with kunuharupa and academic content as long as it means something and meaning is good. As a policy I rarely reply if I feel it is getting nowhere.
I am suggesting all to avoid some endless arguments since they seem to continue way beyond its natural possibility. Someone is sitting behind pulling the threads and that is why we feel that some movements are not humanly but puppet-like. [Reply to this statement will also end up in the same dustbin, don't worry about that ok?]
For the war, now I am canvassing openly about Challai and Puthu as it seems obvious [reserved it so far for sensitivity]. Guys let pussycats count the km to Kili/Mula as that is what they worrry about right now. Let's start counting km to Puthu/Challai ourselves. All I want from SLDF in Kili/Mula is to max(harvest/sacrifice) and min(sacrifice) irrespective to other facts. The real battle is elsewhere.
Saman/Indira,
Well done, you got me. Cool anyway. What I wrote to Indira is applicable to the male pussycats too.
Rana,
take it somewhere else? yes good idea.
where should tigers do a tactical withdrawal from killi?
TAMILNADU! no SLA there :D
Navy destroys LTTE logistic Boat killing Four LTTE Carders North East of Point Pedro
http://www.navy.lk/index.php?id=1151
Terror leaders run away.
ananda-usa,
there are two "meanings" of GDP per capita.
the other one is that it is a ROUGH ESTIMATE (emphasis) of individual earnings.
for instance if the US GDP per capita is $43k (nominal), a family of 3 should roughly have $126k per year.
this is not "too much". in fact my married friends in the US earn MUCH more than this.
so our calculation makes sense.
if you calculate the TOTAL tamil diaspora economy, it comes to around $46 billion which is way higher than the SL economy.
the difference is $15 billion or around 50% over. there can be variations, but not enough to bridge $15 billion. in other words the "errors" in our approach needs $15 billion to change the conclusion which is not likely.
to go a bit further, SL raises 1.6 billion for defence which is 5% of the GDP (nominal).
in the case of tigers,
= 0.3 / 46 = 1%
this means LTTE fronts can raise their annual collection 5 times easier than SL!!!!!
of course VERY few ppl in the tamil diaspora (as a %) donates (and few ppl pay taxes in SL!!!) but there are extortions, etc. some ppl donate over $100,000 to LTTE FRONT org.s so on average it evens out.
TF the second conclusion is LTTE can MUCH easily raise their annual contribution than SL can raise its defence budget given there are no hindrances to fund raising.
from toiletnet,
"The bombers first struck Iyakkachchi around 9:20 a.m and attacked the civilian settlements in Vaddakkachchi, Ira’naimadu, around 2:10 p.m. Sri Lanka Army (SLA) kept firing artillery shells on Iyakkachchi, Ira'naimadu and Vaddakkachchi, as the jets bombed the areas."
excellent.
didn't we cry for this? we can call this a highly coordinated attack.
well done SLA and SLAF.
nade-sung had vowed to cause bloodbath and to attack economic nerve centres to "ease pressure" on the kili, para, mula fronts where tigers are fast losing.
but if LTTE MFs think they can bomb and "put pressure" on us they are mistaken.
SL should not change its tit-for-tat retaliation policy that worked wonders.
even now israel is VIOLENTLY retaliating a hamas adventure to "put pressure" on israel to do this that and the other. so far air attacks have killed over 200 trouble makers and a few of their kith and kin. hamas will soon have to stop shelling israel else their families will force them to quit.
if you give into them, they take it as a successful method. they will always intimidate us and get concessions. unfortunately violence is the only language terrorists understand.
Moshe,
"but if the model uses such fields like places terrorists lived/stayed, areas they met, areas they hid weapons, areas that provide support infrastructure, areas that can hide an outside easily, where the terrorists can easily intermingle with others, areas that can provide regional political support for protection, etc. then it will be very handy"
Good points. But almost all of these are highly correlated with ethnicity. So still, ethnicity will explain most of the variation, and almost always, your independent variable will be ethnicity. Often in stats, you take out the highly correlated variables before you run your model (or consider them as a single factor).
"another example is the east. a few weeks back SLDFs, etc. killed a large number of infiltrators in execution style. after that LTTE activities have become almost zero."
Here what happened was, Army Commandos were inserted and it was the end of the story.
"nade-sung had vowed to cause bloodbath and to attack economic nerve centres to "ease pressure" on the kili, para, mula fronts where tigers are fast losing."
Ha! Ha! Remember, the white fanged Chelvam also promised this before he tried to catch a falling MK80 from hitting the Eelam soil.
chinthana4lions,
mate, good work by whoever created this.
tell him to try and translate it into tamil if possible. it sounds "clumsy" but it is not so. there are hundred of thousands of tamils out there WAITING for this type of entertainment. unfortunately they have very few avenues.
we should ridicule the whole tamil elam movement.
also NEVER use the word "terrorist" in clips. have an attractive name so that TE supporting mother fcukers when they search, will find this type of things.
e.g. tamilnet.tv
had they named it differently, its popularity among the "target" crowd would be lower.
Sujeewa K.,
Will be short. You assume that the diaspora is a highly motivated unit. But it is not. It is gathered around the unifying theme of getting Peelam mostly because of the constant pressure exerted on them by the Sun Goat and his cohorts. Take this out, and the diaspora also will gladly go back to bumping up their own private coffers. GOSL could do more to have a liberal democracy in SL, so that there is absolutely no need for the Tamil diaspora to stick together to collude against our country.
rover,
unforunately ethnicity does come in.
but our exercise is to zoom in without using "tamil" as the only criteria.
not all tamil neighbourhoods are supportive of the LTTE.
Good Moshe, try to come up with some unique identifiers of terrorism, will be useful for our R&D team in Army.
OK. Back to work I think. Keep up the good work.
rover,
re: your answer to sujeewa.
i disagree.
tamil elam is a requirement, unfortunately bombarded on them for almost 100 years continuously.
first tamil elam was born in 1922.
1931, 1947, 1948, 1951, 1956, 1958, 1965, 1968, 1972, 1973, 1975, 1977, 1978, 1979, 1981, 1983, etc., etc. are ONLY justifications, not reasons.
what we should do is to FRUSTRATE the tamil elam project totally. this will FORCE the diaspora to mind their own business.
if they have any avenue of getting it, they jump into it.
rover, mayil, ananda, sujeewa,
thanks for bring up this timely issue.
will put it to my mates also and see how best we can approach this.
of course it is limited. but it would be better than harassing a lot of ppl which they think bcos they are tamil.
Moshe Dyan
Thanks for the advise, I have asked the owner to do the changes, hopefully he will do it soon...
Cheers...
http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=aCokNPni7RQ
Thanks Mosshe,
The last part of my reply to Sujeewa
"GOSL could do more to have a liberal democracy in SL, so that there is absolutely no need for the Tamil diaspora to stick together to collude against our country."
Perhaps is the key to prevent what you say.
But I agree, the cyclical invasion of Sri Lanka has occurred even before the times you mentioned (during the historic times as well). Education of the Tamil Nadu to shed their tribalism may perhaps help as well!
Cheers, mate...
chinthana,
you're welcome mate.
the tamil version of SLRC's wanni operation is VERY popular. so this will be a hit if it can be turned to tamil.
when you gave the link in DW the view count jumped from 5 to 42.
now LTTE MFs will also check what this new message from vezapillai is.
another one for the start of 2009, VP's new year message, then VP's thai pongal message on 14 january????
Victory can create opportunist vultures.
When a cricket team is winning, more and more people jump in the winning band wagon. Those who play 'elle' become cricketers. When the team is loosing, they jump out of the band wagon and vanish.
These are immature people.
Most of Tamils who sang for LTTE when they were winning have now vanished.
However Sinhalese has created an immature foolish force who now rally behind our Troops since they are winning.
Integrity is a character possess by an individual who has good moral values and people can depend on them in any situations.
The immature foolish force who goes after each and every military victory and who wants to ride on the back of our brave soldiers have been exposed.
Never bond with people with poor values even though they belong to your race. That is the biggest injustice you can do for your group.
Ninja
"I am not an academic and you have slight multiple personality problem. Take a deep breath and think about two different chairs before you sit down."
Here is little wisdom derived 2500 years ago:
Don't believe in a message if the messenger has titles and sounds credible.
Don't associate with bad people just because they agree with your mission.
The academic and qualified person may not necessarily be educated. The education should leave the insecure and foolish nature behind.
People guard the content (in this case our history) and they portray themselves as patriots, yet thugs at night. Our society have tolerated corrupt and thug politicians just for this reason.
I thought I saw a pussy-cat! I did! I did saw a pussy-cat! ...
Why get drunk and trying to read posts here?
Do you think mother lanka is a prostitute?
Rana said...
" You are doing a good job, keep it up, I am bit intoxicated for serious posts."
"...they (Sri Lanka) will never be allowed to set foot in tamil land again.." - Tamilselvan addressing international media (2001)
Monkeys should never under-estimate chena boys, because when monkey meets chena boy, monkey gets eaten.
'invation' should be corrected as 'invasion'. - sorry
Rover;
I wouldn't disagree fully with your idea that diaspora is not rigid or pure. In that line I'd like to add that more than 50% of tamils living out of SL and India oppose pussycats. My imagination is a single path possible out of dozen others, I agree.
Tamils had the sentimental pride and will for separate country, just in the same way a French would be proud of Napolean days when they controlled most of europe. But that is a very mild feeling. However it got very much stronger in the anger and vengeance [caused by events like 1983] which in turn has driven them to this distance.
A group among them used these sentiments to gang them up under one flag and that gang is what I call as pro-pussycat diaspora, or diaspora w/o classification [since there is nothing to discuss about rest of diaspora who are against pussycats].
They are bound by some controllers. Right now we call them the international elements of pussycats. We feel pussycat supremo drives them and they are a different form of soldiers executing the commands from Wanni. That is wrong. It is correct that they are carrying out orders from wanni. But the deal of these malicious diaspora elements and Wanni leaders is a two way outsource. Wanni dispatches short term commands to the foreign elements and pledge the revenge in return. Diaspora elements outsource the revenge to wanni and carry out the orders and procure weapons in return.
What I worry is IF we suddenly demolish entire pussycats. Imagine the case that we killed most of the leadership, punished the next tier and rehabilitate the remaining hardcore. Now there are no ACTIVE pussycats not even in secrecy. However those elements who controlled the diaspora for the pussycat needs remain at large. The mechanism to collect money is not gone. Note that of the $300mill, at least $100mill is given away willingly.
I agree that there will be corruption. Even now there are. But the reasons what bound the gang will still remain. Right now sparate homeland and anger/vengeance have got mixed up. I think they want one for the other both ways.
Pussycats and their violent ways have proven out to be the mistake of them. Diaspora chose to support terrorism thinking it will be a way of life in future. That was in 1980s. But now it has become a hindrance and a common cancer to the world. Diaspora will love if they can re-write history w/o pussycats.
Talk to the sensible pussycats around. See their support to pussycats is not emotional. Just an outsource company deals with a foreign arm. Once the deal is canceled, it will be end of story. No feelings at all.
Surely there will be conflicts among them. Some will be chased out others will debate on violence or otherwise. But w/o pussycats everyone will realize that they have only non-violent ways left.
My reasoning is a walk along a long road. There are so many logical junctures and paths diverting from this point. But mine is another possible path.
Risk is, if this happens we are not at all ready. Kohona et al are there but note that you ought to fight a 100 international hawks in the process. Dayan Jayathilake maybe one such guy for the job, but we need 100s of such.
What if they try altering UN level definitions, like the way how Karen Parker attempts. SL will be just a single member country. They can manipulate laws in such a way that SL will be mostly accountable.
What about the possibility of them opening up a dialogue with GoSL. Can we refuse it? Do we have enough power to overcome the possible international power they carry?
SL has to be very careful.
This is why I support diaspora gangster life style, mafia organizations, credit card crooks, etc. And this is why I wish that Fatpig will die in exile in another 20years. This is why I like to see pussycat in hit-and-run state for another 10 years.
Note that if they continue another 25years in this fashion, the pet will turn pest in the house of diaspora. And the homeland joke will be forgotten for ever.
We can bare a hit and run terror group with little guidance and direction. We will have a certain portion of their own siblings to counter it. Isn't it handy to have a bunch of terrorists and most inactive scale. It's like a fashion for 21st century. :)
TS,
[it took longer for the Sri Lankans to gather together, because we are non-racist.]
Reason why there was no second or third '83. There were more than enough poking in the eye (so many bombs/cold blooded massacres/etc.), but not a single tamil person/property was destroyed in retaliation.
Look how other countries/people react even for simplest of cases. How many trains have we burnt with people inside.
if we were racists, there wouldn't have been any minority left in this island. All these crimes against sinhala people are the gifts by these sakkiliyas for taking care of them and letting them live in peace in this land. Still we are extending our hand to pull these people out of the misery they created themselves.
[With every occupation and invation, the Sinhalese in particular have been tolerant of harrassment for a longtime before finally drawing the sword. And then we've always won.]
We never wanted to put our finger in someone else's a$$. but theres a limit that we can tolerate someone else poking their finger in our a$$. And since its always our a$$, the one poking the finger is sure get his fingers broken.
THIS LAND IN UNCONQUERABLE, UNLESS BETRAYED FROM WITHIN. IT HAPPENED IN 1815 AND IT ALMOST HAPPENED IN 2001
MY GOD SOORIYA...ANDAWANE OUR NATIONAL LEADER... ARMY HAS CUT TOTAL SOUTH OF ODDUSUDAN... ANDAWANE 500 CARDERS TRAPPED THERE... ANDAWANE I TOLD THEM TO TACTICALLY WITHDRAW.. ANE ANDAWANE, SOOSAI REJECTS TO FIGHT.. ANNA.. PETER ANNA.. WE ARE GOING TO TACTICAL WITHDRAW FROM MULATHIVE.. ANDAWANE WITHOUTH SOOSAI ANNA, ANNA...,,,ANNAAAA....GNAAAWWWWW
AAANDAWANE..... MUKARJEEE...SIRRRRRRRRRRRRR.. ANNA... PETER ANNA...JET ANNA.... PLEASE... GNAAAWWW...ANDAWANE... TEL PRANAAB MUKARJEE SIR TO COME TO COLOMBO...ANNA BEFORE WE TACTICALLY WITHDRAW FROM KILINOCHI, PARANTHAN AND MULATHIVE...
ANNA... THIS LRRP HAS COME TO WISHWAMADU.. ANNA THEY HAVE COME BEFORE WE TACTICALLY WITHDRAW.. HOW BAD LRRP ANNA....
Dec 28 (PTI) Tamil Nadu Congress President K V Thankgabalu on Sunday said the Centre would 'soon' send External Affairs Minister Pranab Mukherjee to Sri Lanka to try and bring about an immediate ceasefire in the island nation. "The Centre will send Pranab Mukherjee 'very soon' to Sri Lanka to prevail upon the Sri Lankan government to implement a ceasefire in the island nation and to bring about a solution to the Sri Lanka Tamil crises," he told reporters on the sidelines of party's 124th Foundation Day here..
Thankgabalu sir you are our God.....our dream god.. no use of trying thankgabalu sir.. you must stop.. Rajapakse.. Other wise.. you know.. What we do.. we do not dare to Tactically withdraww...Gnaaaaaaawwwwwwwwww
Dear 'Great' Mahinda,
One of the bags was under-weight.
http://tinyurl.com/94xfgk
In the future, please ensure that all bags meet minimum weight as specified by Geneva.
Thank You,
Sithsala said
(THIS LAND IN UNCONQUERABLE, UNLESS BETRAYED FROM WITHIN. IT HAPPENED IN 1815 AND IT ALMOST HAPPENED IN 2001)
Well said mate very well said .
We never got sword to hand first. Every time some one else attacked us first . we just defended our land from them . But all of them got very nice lessons by facing to our retaliation.
I think most of you have seen pics of Ammavuka tamilpuk.com that SLAF bombed herds and cows. I really concorn about this becase
These are the only meat left for me except human meats.
I am short of animal meats except human meats.
Usually I eat ammavuka tiger meat everyday thanks to Singala army.
I never eat Singala army meat because I hate them, but I copy army bodies in sevaral angles just to make diaspoora community happy and ask more money.
My big cock sucker Sivajilingam ammavuka doing good job these days in India. Indian fool assholes does not no our aim. One day we will fuck India too as we already did by killing Rajiv Gandol.
Many seek my email
daily_my_mother_fuckingvesaprbha_tamilpuk.com
Please email any ideas about tactical withdraws
Sorry Daispoora I mistake my emal here is correct one
daily_my_mother_fuckingvesaprbha@tamilpuk.com
1.Please email me any new ideas for tactical withdraws
2.how to survive with no foods and water
3.How to live in deep sea
4.How to go moon without shuttle
5.How to sell my old vesa amma
6.How to live like a ghost
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Is there any help for limiting our tactical withdrwas?
Sujeewa K.,
"I wouldn't disagree fully with your idea that diaspora is not rigid or pure. In that line I'd like to add that more than 50% of tamils living out of SL and India oppose pussycats. My imagination is a single path possible out of dozen others, I agree."
Thanks for the lengthy but very well articulated point. (I was the first to welcome you to the forum, if you remember.., more people are needed of your caliber, I think I said). Anyway, yes there are multiple scenarios that we need to consider.
"But the deal of these malicious diaspora elements and Wanni leaders is a two way outsource. Wanni dispatches short term commands to the foreign elements and pledge the revenge in return. Diaspora elements outsource the revenge to wanni and carry out the orders and procure weapons in return."
Very well put.
The recent (post 9-11) change in world's perspective on all forms of terrorism was the key factor in limiting the flow of diaspora money to fund violence in Sri Lanka. Most of the diaspora Tamils (the decent folks I associate with) are law abiding citizens, and they think deeply before contributing to fund violence in SL. However, they are kept in constant suspense/pressure by the terror king and his gang, by using the assets and relatives as hostage. They will be elated if the King dies, and will not contribute a penny to the LTTE in the current form. But there will be other sources of funding that will be harder to plug.
But I agree, the Sun Goat is more valuable alive (but not in our custody) than dead. If LTTE survives the run-over by the army as a fringe terror group, then still it would be easier to convince the IC and India that it is still an evil entity. With Pillai gone, it will be harder for us to convince those who matter that "Tamil struggle" is still illegitimate.
But if the Army catches the LTTE chief, or any of the top leaders (like Potta), they will definitely be knocked off, of this I am sure. Most probably, even the Top Officers won't see the Terror chief, the boys in the field will do the "needful".
So we need to prepare for this eventuality as well. The best way to do this, I feel, is to prepare an environment in Sri Lanka where all of diaspora's secessionist claims fall short.
I envisage that this could happen very quickly. If the war ends, money can be channeled to uplift the quality of life of our people. The relief after years of suppression, will give us a latent period where we could take things easy (but we should not). We should put all our efforts to make sure that people have hope and are satiated.
With positive strides in economy, if the per capita GDP rises close to around USD 5000, we have a very good chance that we can have a liberal democracy that does not fall. (It has been shown by multiple researchers, that when a country reaches a per-capita GDP of around 4500, liberal-democracy never fail). Simply put, we should address the grievances (most of which are economic) of all Sri Lankans.
I am friends with a top economic adviser to MR, and I have discussed my perspective with him as well; but lets see if they will have the courage to get rid of corruption that currently plague our country, and act on what is good for the nation when the war ends.
this image is really funny now.. Look who is asking what?
http://wannioperation.com/news/2008/12/a-traitor/
One more SLA Mother f**** has gone to hell -> Major General Lasantha Maheshkumara.
Lot more to come just like what happened in Elephant Pass.
One SLA child soldier brigade got wiped out.
Now undeniable evidence,
SLA recruits and uses child soldiers for fighting.
http://www.tamilnet.com/art.html?catid=13&artid=27856
/Now undeniable evidence,
SLA recruits and uses child soldiers for fighting./
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Moshe said...
[the other one is that it is a ROUGH ESTIMATE (emphasis) of individual earnings.
for instance if the US GDP per capita is $43k (nominal), a family of 3 should roughly have $126k per year.
this is not "too much". in fact my married friends in the US earn MUCH more than this.]
Moshe, I beg to differ. Your first statement above, that the GDP per capita is an estimate of INDIVIDUAL EARNINGS is incorrect. It is only a rough measure of the PRODUCTIVITY of a country, computed per resident of that country. It includes corporate output as well and is not a direct measure of individual INCOME, because the benefits of national productivity go largely to the richer segments of the population, and to corporate retained income held as undistributed assets. Family income as reported, is the the more relevant personal income data; it does not depend on corporate output.
The US average family income is much less than $129K, and a typical family has 3 members (e.g., In 2007, only 15.34% of families in the US earned more than $100K). Use the weblink I gave in a previous post to check the US Census Bureau numbers for yourself.
It is the FAMILY budget that has to accommodate the contribution to the LTTE, so the family income (say, average or median) is what should be used. Typically, a family has one wage earner and I assumed a family size of 3, although we can make a different assumptions on family size, such as 2 or 4.
In the US, a family earning $129K per family puts that family in the top 10% of family income. Do you think that the AVERAGE diaspora immigrant, largely smuggled into a country that would not give them a visa on the basis of qualifications had they applied through the legal channel, would be in the top 10% of family income? I don't think so.
Your married friends in the US must be the same as my married friends who earn, like me and my wife, much more than $129K. But they are usually highly qualified and hold professional jobs, and are in the top 10% of US families, and probably have multiple wage earners as well. They are not the poor unqualified immigrants smmuggled into the country through the back door and dumped on the welfare system, and milked by the LTTE in return for the "favour" rendered. The latter eventually do make it up the income scale by a dint of personal effort, but that is typically the next generation.
LOL..sri lankan child soldiers..thats got to be the biggest joke of the century. A country that allows only volunteers to join the defense force, how can they possible recruit child soldiers when there are enough men to join the armed forces, unlike terror LTTE group forcing at least 1 family member to join along with real pictures of child soldiers that are tamil all over the internet.hahhaha these tamil fuks must be the best at false propaganda. Now they are trying to provoke the sinhalese community in trying to get us to believe this bullcrap ...lol they must be out of their suicide mind. White vans are after these goons who publish such fake shit on tamilnet.
upul is back again? my my...identity theft wasnt enough for this guy? hahahahaha you want more.
A Message to all LTTE supporters..
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enjoy
Cheers..
My response to ExpressBuzz.com article:
[Move over and make space Karunanidhi, Ramadoss, Vaiko and Thirumavalan for your creation, the supreme monster and venomous serpent, Velupillai Prabhakaran is fleeing Sri Lanka to roost at home in Tamil Nadu. Make available your treasure, and your underage children, to be sacrificed for the cause of the Greater Dravidian Nation. Make sure you serve him without question, for he brooks no
dissent.
Mighty Vishnu, the creator and destroyer of worlds, in his infinite wisdom, has chosen Prabhakaran as his instrument to
dispense justice, that is both poetic and wondrous, to you; justice for the awful pain, suffering and death inflicted upon the people of Sri Lanka by you rabble-rousing, unpatriotic, seditious citizens of mother India!]
ExpressBuzz.com article:
[Centre delaying decision on Lanka: MK
T Muruganandham
First Published : 28 Dec 2008
CHENNAI: Charging the UPA government at the Centre with delaying a decision on the Lankan Tamils issue, Chief Minister M Karunanidhi on Saturday made a passionate and fervent plea to send External Affairs Minister Pranab Mukherjee to Colombo for ensuring a ceasefire there.
“The Centre should not forget that every moment of delay in ensuring a ceasefire means a Tamil life is lost in Lanka...we make a tearful appeal to the Centre to immediately depute Mukherjee to Sri Lanka as promised by Prime Minister Manmohan Singh to the all-party delegation on December 4,” Karunanidhi said at the DMK general council meet after being elected as party chief for the 10th consecutive term.
“We have, years ago, resigned our membership in the State Assembly for the sake of Lankan Tamils... now we are ready to sacrifice anything for the sake of the Lankan Tamils — even our lives”, he said.
Stating that efforts to save the Tamils should be in line with the policies of the Government of India, he said: “It should not be a path of violence and other anti-national means... We will accept the decision of the Centre on the issue”. The Centre should ignore the charges made by certain forces that the request for ceasefire was being made to favour the LTTE and not the Lankan Tamils, he added.
The general council adopted a resolution urging the Centre to depute the Mukherjee to Sri Lanka immediately.]
Upul says
"One more SLA Mother f**** has gone to hell -> Major General Lasantha Maheshkumara."
The actual news item
"...remains of Major Lasantha Mahesh during his funeral in Ragama..."
Moshe,
/what we should do is to FRUSTRATE the tamil elam project totally. this will FORCE the diaspora to mind their own business./
I guess you mean "ERADICATE the tamil elam project totally".
"FRUSTRATION or ACCOMODATION" did not work.
The 'great' sun-goat's making a goat of himself:
....Responding to questions, the senior officer said that the army took advantage of heavy commitment of LTTE assets to defend Iranamadu-Kilinocchi-Paranthan stretch of the A9 to swiftly advance on Mullaitivu.
The bottom line was that ferocious Tiger resistance on the Kilinochchi front had been at the expense of Mullaitivu, he explained. By the time the Tigers realized that the army had taken advantage of the situation, 59 Division had reached the outskirts of Mullaitivu.
Realizing their mistake, the LTTE had strengthened the Mullaitivu defences, he said, acknowledging that troops had experienced what he called ``an increased level of resistance.’’
``Now they have realized that both Kilinochchi and Mullaitivu were equally vulnerable and couldn’t be defended,’’ the official said.
It is time our self-proclaimed highly-intelligent diasspora jackasses airing their glorified hallucinations, to help the goat...
Saman,
[from what you addressed to Moshe]
I guess you mean "ERADICATE the tamil elam project totally".
This is the best thing, but how?
We can eradicate pussycats, no doubt. But how can we stop the maniacs in diaspora working on whatever plans it may think of in the void of pussycats?
And if they attempt to tackle the matter in diplomatic scale, what can we do?
Certainly we can respond in same language, but we're yet to show any colors in those lines.
It took 25yrs for our lads to create quality defense. How long will it take for us the reach competence levels in diplomatic circles?
Note that there is a dedicated big budget which can pay almost any amount to hire the best party.
"Pro-rebel Tamilnet website meanwhile said the rebels beat back the Army offensive killing more than sixty soldiers. Military spokesman Brigadier Udaya Nanayakkara however disputed the Tiger claim saying that only nine soldiers were killed."
Click
"Mullaitivu town has already become a ghost town as the LTTE has ordered all civilians to move out of Mullaitivu town as Mullaitivu - Oddusudan - Mankulam road were cut off by the troops, a few days ago."
Click
Troops take control of a luxury LTTE bunker. The Security Forces have taken control of a key LTTE camp in the Mulleyaveli area. Our Special Representative Sujith Vithana Pathirana said it was a luxury strong underground bunker.
He said it was a very strong bunker built with concrete to sustain air raids and heavy attacks. Attempts made by the LTTE to protect it clearly indicate its importance. The area had been used as an operations centre. The underground bunker comprised several stories. It had an entrance as well as an exit point. The bunker was fully air conditioned. This confirmed that LTTE leaders would have frequented the place. The bunker was put up close to a large house. It also had fans and pipe borne water. It was earlier reported that Prabhakaran and other LTTE leaders had used concrete bunkers in Mullaitivu and the surroundings to avoid attacks.
http://www.itn.lk/news_04_20081228.html
Really Cold,
//Why get drunk and trying to read posts here?
Do you think mother lanka is a prostitute?
Rana said...
" You are doing a good job, keep it up, I am bit intoxicated for serious posts."//
I want you to think again about the above post with following points.
- I was not drunk but knew myself about what I should do and should not do.
- I am on holiday during Christmass
- You are totaly new to this blog and don't know me much.
In addition to that don't think all others are just cheering to the winning side without feelings.
Do not try to judge others.
pansilu the nitwit,
I have met many monkeys like you in the past. I could simply careless whether I am in your list or not. Please take your fake punditry elsewhere. Regardless, you act the buffoon really well. This is not a place for your buffoonery.
Patriots,
Panislu the nitwit seems to be a reinvented Revy or Thalivar from LNP. He is here to change the focus of the blog from Defence issues to his own personal issues. It will be better if we ignore in the future.
ananda-usa,
appreciate your answer, mate. it is too important a topic that can't be brushed aside.
this might clear things.
Per capita income means how much each individual receives, in monetary terms, of the yearly income generated in the country. This is what each citizen is to receive if the yearly national income is divided equally among everyone. Per capita income is usually reported in units of currency per year. When comparing nations per capita income reflects gross national product per capita income, but it is also used to compare municipalities within nations. When determining the per capita income of a community, the total personal income is divided by the population.
anyway i agree that inequities exist. but by ultimate argument is,
the economy of the tamil diaspora > SL economy.
for this to change, their economy which is $46 billion should fall to $32 billion which is -30% on the 46. i cannot agree the inequalities can differ so much.
in the US close to 50% asian households fall into the first 2 brackets. another difference is the effective tax rate. although GDP (and GDP per capita) includes taxes, the household average income excludes taxes paid.
to compare like with like, SL's economy is compared against the tamil diaspora's economy based on GDP per capita.
Sam Perera, said:
//pansilu the nitwit,
I have met many monkeys like you in the past. I could simply careless whether I am in your list or not. Please take your fake punditry elsewhere. Regardless, you act the buffoon really well. This is not a place for your buffoonery.
Patriots,
Panislu the nitwit seems to be a reinvented Revy or Thalivar from LNP. He is here to change the focus of the blog from Defence issues to his own personal issues. It will be better if we ignore in the future.//
You are entitled to say what you want but who gave you the authority to advise others on what they should do or not.
When you don't have something good to write here, don't write at all.
saman & sujeewa,
"I guess you mean ERADICATE the tamil elam project totally"
no.
we cannot do it bcos it is not in our hands, unfortunately!
but what we can do is to convince the tamil diaspora, SL tamil community, the IC that tamil elam is never going to happen.
this is what i meant by "frustration". sorry to use a legal term (it has an ordinary meaning too).
the best way to do it is ethnic integration.
the best tool for ethnic integration is colonisation.
if the north is as diverse as the south, no one can demand the north to be given to a tribe.
essentially the "tamil elam" will be a sinhala majority region/country/state/unit!!!
no tamil racist will ask for it then!!
but if the mono-racial identity is kept, racists will be attracted to it as worms to a carcass.
e.g. this actually happened in the east to a great extent. imagine the worst case of holding a referendum in the east for tamil elam. most ppl will reject it.
Sujeewa,
All your Q’s are very valid. I do not think any one knows the exact answers. All, I can say is single mindedness, resolve and relentlessness are the key ingredients. But they are just words unless we develop decision making tools and responsive action frameworks. A mammoth task I should say. But such words provide the same impetus as a vision statement provides for a progressive organization. Let me share my views.
/We can eradicate pussycats, no doubt. But how can we stop the maniacs in Diaspora working on whatever plans it may think of in the void of pussycats?/
LTTE and di-ass-pora support would come to nothing if Tamil minority’s will to separate is taken out of the formula. That is what we must aim. Carrot and a stick approach is needed. As I have mentioned sometime ago we must create a Tamil majority who loves Sri Lankan way of life more than Tamil Nadu. Separatism by deed or word must be criminalized within our shores. If our constitution recognizes this no country can intervene.
And if they attempt to tackle the matter in diplomatic scale, what can we do?
Diplomatic intervention is only a response to a political drive or in case of mishandling or violating civilized way of responding to a political will. I firmly believe, we have already passed that point and bit out-of the woods in that regard. Obvious evidences are there to see. Credit must go to MR. But we must prove to the world that we are extremely serious about bringing normalcy and addressing genuine grievances of our people.
It took 25yrs for our lads to create quality defense. How long will it take for us the reach competence levels in diplomatic circles?
As I said before, nation’s development and acquiring defense capabilities are responsive or reactive (i.e. based on demand). Whereas diplomacy is a skill of a person (s). For example what late Mr. Kadiragamer managed to achieve in couple of years other folk would take couple of life spans. I fully agree with you, we are very week in this. Also, remember Tamils who left the country masterfully (for ealam struggle) got in to politics in the western world. Not many Sinhalese did that. There are some MPs who’s constituents dominated by Tamils votes (UK, Aus, Canada). On the other hand most of our diplomats sit on their asses and very poor in networking capabilities. What we must do is to identify leaders from our 2nd generation of migrants and sponsor and appoint them to diplomatic missions. For example our kids are doing extremely well here and they would be fantastic raw material. Or go for a talant identification (only on merit not on contacts) within the country and send them as international student to be trained in that field.
Surely these are long term strategies. But this is the national question which has driven to a 30 year war and 100,000+ lives being lost. This is a serious matter and need serious long term measures.
Do we have Southern political will to be that far sighted, I do not know?
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Moshe,
100% agree.
Your "FRUSTRATE" is as good as my "ERADICATE" :-)
Reliable Wanni sources say that once LTTE's death trap for SLA makes full-circle, you will see more Chena boys go down in red clay of Wanni land. According to that sources, LTTE never gonna give up Kili.
Oh man, the way LTTE amass the military hardware from SLA, they can make AK-LMG as their standard rifle for any new recruits.
Both defencewire and defencenet not active these days whereas fighting is going at full speed. Whats up?
Moshi,
Excellent post. However, successful elimination of LTTP militarily will convince ordinary tamils that eelam is done and dusted.
Diaspora will go on with propaganda but not effective without local support.
When LTTP is beaten and their weapons confisticated, lot of tamils will openly talk about integration.
As you said integration is the answer but protecting all sri lankans rights is more important to prevent next struggle which can raised its head from any community including sinhala and muslims.
although SLA is recording victories, casualties are very high due to LTTE's trench-bunt combination.
we discussed this b4 but nothing has changed in the battle front.
1. the view of trench warfare should change. trench-bunt is not the enemy.
2. what we need to do is to attack terrorists beyond the trench-bunt. this will increase the harvest and allow our infantry enough time to breach the trench-bunt.
also eartmovers can be used if adequate safety is guaranteed allowing larger weapons across.
bit more:
Successful elimination of LTTP militarily will frustrate almost all cool seperatists. A successful integration will eliminate cool seperatiss beyond recovery.
hi guys,
Please pray for the 17 year old child soldier who attained nirvana yesterday in Alampil front.
Thanks
pray for these child soldiers too!! more than 50 of them! wow!!!
V4V,
After a long time, you have assumed your previous ID again.
One brave heart going to Nirvana is not for you to celebrate, Look at 100s going into peelam permanently daily basis, that is what should worry you.
Moshe,
Let us agree to disagree on what GDP represents, and what is the proper data to use in computing the diaspora income.
Clearly, we have different opinions on this.
pansilu the nitwit,
You earlier said,
"Sam Perera,
I would like to drop you from my list but learn to overcome unnecessary fear for trivial things."
Then you said,
"When you don't have something good to write here, don't write at all."
Don't post comments addressed to me if you don't want a response. As I said, I have dealt with enough buffoons like you and you are not outstanding among them either. You just show the typical signs of a buffoon who is lost in own idiocy.
Sinna Paranthan defense worked for one good reason.
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Marksmen
A considerable number of Tiger casualties have been attributed to marksmen attached to this division. The snipers had killed as much as 65 Tiger cadres during this period. Last Tuesday (23) alone, they are said to have shot dead 28 in the open terrain in Sinna Paranthan. The following day Tigers launched a fierce assault on the troops of the 58 Division. But 17th Gemunu Regiment under Lt. Col. Keerthi Kottawatte beat back the assault successfully.
- nation.lk
*/
The same will work on other FDLs as well. The numbers of snipers should increase many fold. As I said before, LTTE are spread thin and mortar and the like will not be very effective. Furthermore, the bunt hide their movements making it difficult to judge where to fire mortar and artillery.
I thought it was strange they used an extra ordinary amount of firepower on the south east Iranmadu last week to dislodge the army. Why this area so important when Sinna Paranthan more significant? Perhaps the idea was to draw troops away from Paranthan.
The east is again becoming a problem with the Pallian and Karuna turf war. Will disarming TMVP be enough? One must leave the country until the LTTE problem is solved.
Hi Moshe Dyan,
I dont know whether you understand the diffrence between using child soldiers at the front and and backyard.
Please study the diffrence and let me know you have realised your fault.
Hi Rana,
:)
V4Victory,
Why all this commotion? Isn't Bruice Feign and his genocide song not getting much attention these days?
No one listens to 'Ellalan force' any more?
http://au.youtube.co/watch?v=0F1z5OXBVKE
What is going on?
defencewire, ogre,vajira or any other SLA guy,
I hope you have already seen the newly captured Mulyavaili Strong Bunker. Going by the description of this bunker with A/C, this bunker sounds more like one of the fat pig's hideouts. If you check the video, you can see that parts of the concrete has fallen off due to SLA or SLAF attacks. Nevertheless, I strongly believe that it is very important to study the engineering aspects of this bunker. I mean structural aspects mostly and air passage aspects secondly. I wonder if this bunker was designed to prevent air suction by thermobaric weapons? Either way, we need to study
1) How the structure was designed
2) How the access was provided
3) How it was powered
4) How the air ducts were designed
When we encounter the next bunker, we should be prepared to destroy it and occupant terrorists with the least effort.
A great place to get this going may be KDU Civil Department. I urge you to study these bunkers as soon as possible.
ananda-usa,
cheers!
Panhinda is very correct!
Each tiger felled by a sniper is a bonus. it is not only effective but cheap and saves our brave hearts well.
Dear DefenceWire,
No offense but I think it's high time for an update.
Cheers
Panhinda,
"The same will work on other FDLs as well. The numbers of snipers should increase many fold. As I said before, LTTE are spread thin and mortar and the like will not be very effective. Furthermore, the bunt hide their movements making it difficult to judge where to fire mortar and artillery."
Increasing the density of snipers will not proportionately increase the harvest. This is because a sniper has a huge area of influence and can take down any more or less stationary target within it. It should also be mentioned that once an enemy soldier is shot, the activity ceases for long periods of time. I know that at least for the TF1, the other troops to sniper proportion is quite adequate. Given that it takes a lot of resources to train and arm a sniper (and his buddy), the army is doing very well right now.
The LTTE is not spread thin. Its density increases as we corner them into a smaller perimeter/area. So arti/MBRL fire will become more and more important in the harvesting of the tigers. The only reason to hold back on the arti is when tigers intermingle with the civilians. In the FDL and the surrounding areas, this is not the case.
It is actually easier to JUDGE where the mortat/arti fire should be aimed because of the earth bund. However, the loss of the effectiveness of this firing is an entirely different issue if the enemy is well entrenched.
"I thought it was strange they used an extra ordinary amount of firepower on the south east Iranmadu last week to dislodge the army. Why this area so important when Sinna Paranthan more significant? Perhaps the idea was to draw troops away from Paranthan."
Under the current rainy conditions, it is easier to move infantry without armor. Paranthan region is ideal to unleash our tanks and Iranamadu for our 8 man teams. Tigers are hence very vigilant on what we will do using infantry in the forested Iranamadu region.
"it is easier to move infantry without armor."
oops, should have said infantry troops on their own than together with armor.
Guys,
This is about civilian casualties:
LTTP is using civilians to thier advantage. Therefore without countering that we cannot win this war or our casualties will be unnecessarily high.
Why we have to sacrifies our good lads to save civilians. Specially most of them are ignorent and helping terras by default.
I think, this is the time to forget about civilians and hammer them with everything we have got.
This will force civilians to rebel against vesapille.
In short, follow Israelies and strick them hard. Forget about zero civilian casualty principle and vapourise anybody mingle with terras.
If we do that within days their human shield advantage is gone, civilians will be agitated and even some tigers may joing civilians and rebel aganst vesapille's facist regime.
Guys,
As you know, Pottu Amman, who supervised Rajiv's assassination at Prabhakaran's request, has been relieved of his duties as the LTTE Intelligence Chief and is now under arrest.
It occurred to me that Prabhakaran may be packaging Pottu Amman for delivery to India as the sole scapegoat, in exchange for India lifting its ban against the LTTE.
rover,
/*
Increasing the density of snipers will not proportionately increase the harvest. This is because a sniper has a huge area of influence and can take down any more or less stationary target within it.
*/
Its not really the density of snipers but the rate of fire that it important. Obviously, the required rate of fire vary depending on the situation. When they charge, there must be equal number of bullets flying to match the rate they are charging at you. When the troops charge, there must be adequate number of sniper fire to cover troops as they advance. If the existing number of snipers can meet the required rate of fire then, there is no need for further adjustments.
/*
Given that it takes a lot of resources to train and arm a sniper (and his buddy), the army is doing very well right now.
*/
We currently have 2 tiers of specialist units. The top tier mainly by SF and Commando and the second tier manned by ordinary troops with some specialist training. Its probably the second tier that handle the bulk of the work.
Similarly, there is no reason why we cannot have a second tier sniper unit. The second tier will not need costly equipment or trining. They can be an ordinary trooper who generally good at sharp shooting armed with a standard issue weapon with a telescope. The second tier sniper will not need a buddy either.
/*
The only reason to hold back on the arti is when tigers intermingle with the civilians. In the FDL and the surrounding areas, this is not the case.
....
However, the loss of the effectiveness of this firing is an entirely different issue if the enemy is well entrenched.
*/
The problem with civilians is going to increase. This is an added reason why accuracy of fire will be more important in the future. They are also well entrenched. This means we can only shoot whey they pop their head out. There is definetely a role for arty. However, we cannot say it really has been effective.
waiting for 1000 comments for every update.. damn
If I combine Pottu Amman's relief and speculation of attacking Jaffna by LTTE, perhaps he was asked to put together the attack and he backed down.
"When they charge, there must be equal number of bullets flying to match the rate they are charging at you. When the troops charge, there must be adequate number of sniper fire to cover troops as they advance. If the existing number of snipers can meet the required rate of fire then, there is no need for further adjustments."
Bro, first snipers relish stationary targets. At the great distances that snipers operate at, even a slight movement, either by the sniper or the enemy soldier, the target would be missed. Second, snipers do very poorly shooting at charging subjects for two reasons, the reload time of the sniper rifle, which is usually manual (each bullet needs to be loaded manually). The movement of the enemy soldiers. The ideal weapon to get charging enemy (as they charge in droves) is the machine gun.
However, terrain is an important determinant for the number of snipers for a given front. If the terrain is cluttered and complex, more snipers are needed (as effective area of a sniper is reduced), if it is relatively open, like in Paranthan, only a handful can do the specialized job of picking off distant or hidden enemies.
Another thing is that snipers don't like to give away their hiding place. So they usually take a shot and lie low, so that enemy snipers don't locate them. In a charge, snipers often follow using his scope, an enemy soldier on the run, and usually shoot only when he stops or falls.
Sometime back, I wrote a little bit on how a sniper picks up his target and compensate for the fall of the bullet over great distances. Snipers never ever fire randomly, it is a hardwired fact.
One of the best sniper movies came out of Hollywood in the 90s.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0108171/
rana,
mate, but israel uses the "world's most precise" bomb which is GSP guided. the name is GBU39.
what happens is targets are taken with "minimum" (comparatively) collateral damage. of course hamas tries to show that the TARGET itself is civilian. sometimes they are!!
news agencies don't make things fair by israel. CNN has 20 pix, ALL from the palestiniean side.
now a ground assault is needed if terrorists don't stop attacking israel.
"It was in our power to set a high price for our blood, a price too high for the Arab community, the Arab army, or the Arab governments to think it worth paying."
on retaliation, dayan
Rover,
-first snipers relish stationary targets
-snipers do very poorly shooting at charging subjects
-snipers don't like to give away their hiding place.
-Snipers never ever fire randomly, it is a hardwired fact.
etc..
You are reading from the exiting sniper's rules book. Therefore, what you say is probably the accepted standard followed in the army as well.
What I am asking is to look beyond and see if you can adapt the role of a sniper into a current requirement (perhaps unconventional) that may cause a break through. What we need ultimately are results after all.
Rana
That post about getting drunk and trying to write here is for all Sinhalese writers who seem to be drunk by looking at some of their posts.
Life is all about judging and I have been judged by many different ways.
I came out of a party where number of 20 something from SL started getting drunk and then dancing. Alcohol has become a very necessary part of our so called Buddhist culture. I believe the values of our society is going down with alcohol and you were the guinea pig in airing out my frustrations.
Panhinda, sorry bro, no book is involved! Anyway, another thing that instructors stress is that snipers should always improvise. Mostly to blend into the environment, enhancing his gili-cloth from local material, and finally getting at the enemy through an improvised set of maneuvers that is sustainable in a given environment. So what you've said, snipers already do..
Diaspora economy > SL economy
This is a very foolish argument.
The overheads of people living in the west is very high. The take home salary could be 50% of what you make. From that one needs to pay for lifestyle expenses including children education.
The disposable income to contribute to whatever people are passionate is about 5% of what people make.
Most rich people are not that generous unless the donations comes with a ego boost or political capital.
One thing to talk about diaspora wealth. Another to talk about the liquidity of that wealth towards LTTE. I'd say, only a fraction of them are self motivated to donate to LTTE and that comes hate. Most of the donations comes from extortion and being creative in getting public money from governments.
Major General Milinda Peiris is going to be the new Commandant of the Kotelawala Defence University. According to a previous DW post, at 48 years he is the youngest Major General in the SLA. One of my family members who met him several times said that he is among the best and the brightest in the SLA. Officer training is critical to ensure that we have a future crop of military leaders who will guide our military institutions for years to come.
On another note, one of my family members met with a senior minister a few days ago. The minister indicated that the President has emphasized over and over again that the number one priority is minimizing civilian casualties. The President sincerely believes that this is the best strategy and is not doing so because of international pressure or public relations needs.
The LTTE obviously knows this and are holding Tamil civilians as human shields. Unrestrained aerial bombing of civilian population centers and unrestrained artillery bombardment of civilian population centers
ultimately hurts and antagonizes civilians who need to be wooed away from terrorists.
While the Govt's strategy constrains military operations to some extent and extends the duration of the war, it bodes well for Sri Lanka's future. Tamil civilians clearly understand that the Govt has their best interests at heart.
In our population, rarely, there are people who have resting heart beat rate of less than 48, these make the best snipers. They shoot between heart beats, gives more still time you know. Even in total chaos, there heart beat rates of these guys rarely rise above 100 (for a normal guy who has resting heart beat rate of 72, in excitement it could be as much as 120-160!). So the best snipers are a rare commodity.
Really cold,
//I believe the values of our society is going down with alcohol and you were the guinea pig in airing out my frustrations.//
Hello buddy, I am not a buddhist monk or social reformer. I am just an ordinary man who takes a drink here and there without debating it with high or low moral balance.
Now you are guilty as charged for taking me for a guinea pig for your escape or whatever it is.
So, I will keep quite, just for now but be careful in fututre when try to poke your fingers into others business.
Rana
//I am just an ordinary man who take a drink here and there without measuring it with moral balace.//
Let me rephrase my position about alcohol. I don't really care whether people drink or not. However, if people want to run around with a patriot banner and want to promote a Sinhalese Buddhist culture, they need to be aware that culture is not hypocrite.
I have taken some blind shots. What I really should be targeting hypocrites. If you are not one, you are cool with me.
CASC, it is time for the airways broadcasting defense news echo the sentiments about SLG's policy on civilian causalities and rehabilitation.
Right now the news ratio Battle news to civilian rehab are like 10:1. That ratio should be balanced.
It is time Defencwire publish some reports related to prevention of civilian causalities and how we help these people out.
ReallyCold,
"If we want to maintain and promote our identity, we have to respect the same desire by Tamils as well."
That is entirely how I feel, and why I have been giving Mayilravana ayya a hard time.
Really cold,
OK, mate. I really don't care whether others brand me a patriot or traitor, as long as I know what I am doing.
Now our positions are clear, let us cool it for good.
Looking forward to see many productive posts from you, brother.
Panhinda,
"Correct me if I am wrong, how does this prove a Tamil identity that is attached to the land?"
Mayilravana made no mention about Tamil identity that is attached to the land. He made a blanket statement that there was no Tamil identity period before the 19th century.
The kings of Jaffna did not consider themselves to be merely the rulers of the north. Like their Sinhala counterparts further south, they believed that they were the legitimate rulers of the entire island, even going to the extent of claiming ancestral links with Prince Vijaya.
It is too bad the Eelamist dumbasses are so clueless how their own history is intertwined with the Sinhalese.
"Tamil clearly evolved elsewhere and introduced into the island during invasions and other types of immigration."
SL Tamil culture most certainly evolved in Sri Lanka over the last several hundred years. If we place both Sinhala and Tamil legends side by side, both claim that they were established in Sri Lanka through invasion (Vijaya established Sinhala civilization through invasion, Kalinga Magha who originated from the same region as Vijaya established Tamil civilization through invasion).
"Also how did Tamils pronounce "Chola" since there is no "ch" phoneme in Tamil language or script? "
Yes there is. At the beginning of a word or when it is doubled, the "s/c" sound becomes "ch."
"It may have been "Czhola" where the zh is silent."
No. The so-called "zh" sound (which sounds nothing like z actually) appears later: "Chozha." It is a substitute for "l" and most SL Tamils use that English letter.
Wijepala
//
"If we want to maintain and promote our identity, we have to respect the same desire by Tamils as well."
That is entirely how I feel, and why I have been giving Mayilravana ayya a hard time.
//
Now that Mayilravana or Mayil(pahichcha)ravana has made himself to be a zero and proven his opinion is worthless, let's dive into this topic.
If Tamils and Sinhalese are sincere towards each other, this can easily be accomplished.
I usually refrain talking about this subject these days since there is a war.
Three things come to mind with this subject.
1) We need people to understand Tamil aspirations (the very basic ones at least, not the political big dreams) and sensitive about it when they write here.
2) We have to understand the war is and elimination of LTTE is very necessary before executing (1) or we can do them in parallel.
3) A task force has to be established to execute(1) after the war.
ReallyCold,
How come there be a thing called Tamil aspirations?
There can only be Sri Lankan aspirations.
New post out there..on DW
// last_mile said...
How come there be a thing called Tamil aspirations?
There can only be Sri Lankan aspirations.//
The term Tamil aspirations is a loaded one. I mentioned on my post the term 'basic'.
Which is practice and promote their culture the way Sinhalese want to do with their culture.
If you live in USA or Canada and want to practice your own Sinhalese culture, you have the perfect freedom to do so. This is how the mutual cultural respect comes in.
I am against bigger Tamil aspirations like autonomy or federal.
Ultimately, we all need to have common Sri Lankan goals. Tamils can't have special goals which are not common with Sinhalese or Muslims.
Mayilravana Aiya,
"On page 85 the reference to (English translation) "pure tamil" is made. This is in the 11th century. And as the proper names were transliterated did that include the words "pure Tamil"?"
Yes- 11th century came before 19th century thus scientifically disproving your argument.
"Just to illustrate null-hypothesis again, let us propose two examples of hypotheses:"
I didn't ask for examples of hypotheses. I wanted you to prove that there was a Sinhala identity before the 19th century and you did not answer. If you cannot prove Sinhala identity then how do you expect me to prove Tamil identity?
"If you apply this definition then the null-hypothesis of a "tamil" identity cannot be disproved in my eyes until mid-19th century."
But this is where your entire logic is flawed:
a) You are ignorant of Tamil culture, as you admitted previously i.e. your eyes have seen very little of Tamil culture
b) Therefore you are not qualified to make an educated judgment whether or not there was a Tamil identity before or after the 19th century
c) Any (non-educated) judgment you provide will lack credibility, because it is based on a lack of knowledge and not knowledge. That is why you can only describe Tamil culture in negative terms (ie what doesn't exist) instead of positive (what does exist).
I rightly compared you to Dr. Mithra Fernando because he was equally as ignorant of Sinhala history as you are of Tamil history.
"1)No dynasty referred to as Tamil
or 2)No language referred to as Tamil
or 3)No territory referred to as Tamil
or 4)No culture referred to as Tamil"
In that case your null hypothesis is easy to disprove:
1) There is no dynasty called "Tamil" since that term refers to a language, but kings have been evaluated in terms of their commitment to the Tamil language and literature as I demonstrated above.
2) The Tamil language has been referred to as "Tamil" from the oldest literature onward. There is nothing called "Tamyoli" which you have confused with "Thay moli/mozhi" (I corrected you on this before).
3) Tamilakam (again as I pointed out before).
4) The concept of "culture" did not exist in the ancient world- neither Sinhalese nor Tamils referred to themselves as having a "culture."
"I am on the other hand countering people like Thambaiah who have (rightly) restricted the emergence of the Sinhala identity to the middle ages for the wrong (aimed at attacking MahaVamsa and the concept of Sinhala identity itself) reasons."
And what are your "reasons" for talking about Tamil identity? If your opinions (since you have not established any facts) on Tamil identity are based on your irrational fear of a threat to Sinhala identity, as opposed to a genuine desire to actually learn something about the Tamils, then you are equally as misguided as Thambiah and Dr. Fernando and you lack scientific objectivity.
"I challenge the "Tamil" identity admittedly to protect the sovereignty of the island from being over-run by a modern day fascist Tamil-Dravidian state , true."
The problem is that Tamil identity has as much to do with LTTE fascism as Sinhala identity has to do with Sinhala racism.
"If I am getting so much under your skin that you have to accuse me of being anti-Tamil then we can stop our discussion."
It's not so much that you're getting under my skin that you are defeating your own purpose. If you want to protect Sri Lankan sovereignty then you will have to learn to accept the identities of all Sri Lankans, not just the Sinhalese. When you and other Sinhala chauvinists scream that the Tamils have no identity then you pave the way for thugs like Prabakaran to define Tamil identity on their terms.
You defeat your own purpose when you play a double standard, such as condemning the notion of race but praising Anagarika Dharmapala who entirely accepted colonial European notions of race and argued that the Sinhalese were a separate race.
As long as you see this from a Sinhala-centric perspective, you will lack the objectivity which the scientific method demands.
Moshe said....
[the best way to do it is ethnic integration.
the best tool for ethnic integration is colonisation.
if the north is as diverse as the south, no one can demand the north to be given to a tribe.]
This is what I have been advocating also.
My response at ExpressBuzz.com
Karunanidhi, Ramadoss, Vaiko and Thirumavalan: Here comes your creation, the supreme monster and venomous serpent, Velupillai Prabhakaran fleeing Sri Lanka to roost at home in Tamil Nadu. Offer up your hoarded treasure, and your underage children, to be sacrificed on the altar of the Greater Dravidian Nation. Serve him without question, for he brooks no dissent. Mighty Vishnu, the creator and destroyer of worlds, in his infinite wisdom, has chosen Prabhakaran as his instrument to dispense justice to you, in ways both poetic and wondrous; justice for the awful pain, suffering and death inflicted upon the people of Sri Lanka by these rabble-rousing, unpatriotic, seditious citizens of mother India!
ExpressBuzz.com Article:
['India will back LTTE struggle'
says Velupillai Prabhakaran.
P K Balachandran
First Published : 29 Dec 2008
COLOMBO: The Tamil Tiger chief Velupillai Prabhakaran has said that India is set to support his struggle to get for the Tamils of Sri Lanka, the right to self-determination.
In an e-mail interview to the Colombo-based weekly Lakbimanews, the LTTE leader said that an environment in which the Indian government would support the Tamil struggle in Sri Lanka was being created. “We are working to rebuild our contacts and relationship with the Indian Central Government through political and diplomatic channels. The environment, in which the Indian Central Government will support our struggle, is in the making.
Most people may not know this, but I believe some people are aware of this,” Prabhakaran said.
He said he would “fully reject” the suggestion that Tamil Nadu Chief Minister M Karunanidhi and the mainstream Tamil Nadu political parties had climbed down from their radical stand on the Sri Lankan Tamil question, leaving the LTTE high and dry.
“The people of Tamil Nadu and its politicians support our struggle irrespective of any political differences between them. None of the leaders there has given up the struggle in support of us.On the contrary, they are continuing to stage protests in support of us.” “All the political leaders of Tamil Nadu are supporters of our freedom struggle. They have immense love for our people and us. I would say that they raise their voice in support of our struggle without any ulterior motives,” Prabhakaran asserted.
STILL STRONG
The LTTE leader said that the belief that the group was on the verge of a defeat was misplaced.
Asked if he had any time table for securing an independent Tamil Eelam, since he was ageing, and there was no sign of independence, Prabhakaran said, “Ours is a freedom struggle. It has no time limits or age limits.”
Suicide bomber kills 8
At least eight people were killed and 17 were injured on Sunday when a LTTE suicide bomber exploded himself in front of the Civil Defence Force office on Hekkita Road in Wattala, the Media Centre for National Security (MCNS) said. Among the dead were five CDF personnel.]
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