The Sri Lanka Army who are virtually swimming in flooded low-lying areas in the north, yesterday decided to capture the A-9 Road from Kokavil up to Mankulam.
The A-9 is relatively untouched by the floods in some parts, unlike low-level byroads in the interior. Until yesterday, the SLA was careful to leave the A-9 untouched to entice civilian movements. The decision was made to recapture the A-9 in Kokavil after facing a dearth of plyable routes. Many of the routes used previously by the SLA are now fully submerged.
Both the SLA and the LTTE have slowed down their operations in and around Kilinochchi. Administrative and logistical difficulties caused by the flooding will be on the minds of field commanders on both sides before they embark on the next round of confrontations.
In the meantime, the Sri Lanka Army has quietly raised another task force. Task Force-4, which will some day become the 64 Division is expected to be deployed in the northeastern region, probably in Weli Oya to assist the 59 and Task Force 3 to reach Mullaitivu. Fighting in this sector is expected to escalate with the Army getting ready to fight the final battle for Alampil. To reach Mullaitivu, the 59 and TF-3 would have to take a 16km path northeastward.
Tuesday, December 2, 2008
Push for Mullaitivu to escalate
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«Oldest ‹Older 201 – 343 of 343Moshe,
you said:
//1981 population was around 14mn.
that is not the point. the assumption is when the tamils (NE ones) in SL are added to the die-ass-pora tamils, the total still remains 12.6%.
this should be applied to today's population of 20mn. then,
20mn x 12.6% = 2.52mn.
of this 0.8 is in the die-ass-pora.
that leaves (2.52 - 0.8) 1.72 mn in SL.//
The fault in your calc is to assume population growth from 1981 to 2007 is same for tamil population.
Therefore:
in 1981 12.6% of 14m is 1.764m
in 2007 12.6 of 20m is 2.52m
Therefore the population increase is 0.78m or 44% for last 26 years.
Then you are assuming 0.78 approx 0.8m migrated.
So we still have 1.78m or 8.6%!
In fact you are assuming growth rate for tamils and other races were same during last 26 years.
That is wrong, when people migrated, their growth rate not effective to SL but to where they migrated.
Year 2007 census shows Jaffna population growth as -24%, this due to internal displacement, migration and death due to fighting.
In fact actual migration and death due to fighting is much more than their growth, so effectively their numbers have gone down from 1.74m instead of growing.
However, whether their population is 8.6% or less do not warrant special treatment
Moshe,
Perhaps it is less-practical. I could think of several reasons.
- Most of our jets are bombers. They can't shoot but bomb at determined locations.
- Tiger hideouts are not properly determined when fighting takes place.
- Long long time ago we tried that and it didn't work attitude.
Ninja,
This war is not yet over. We have got significant gain in ground or real estate but LTTP core strength is only maginally down.
I don't believe everything I read from defence.lk and specially casualty figures were inflated.
defence.lk has suppressed info on counter attacks and recapture of the places.
Ogre said LTTP has 12000 cadres to defend Kili alone with 1200 hardcore fighters.
Then if you count all fronts including Mulative, Nedunkeni and all other places. Howmany, about 20000 total. Gen. SF estimates has gone for six already.
It is disadvantageous for LTTP to fight rigorously in a long FDL. So they have withdrawn tactically to make their FDL small. Now they are defending Kili, Paranthan, Oddusudan and Mulative areas with real gutty performance.
In fact some other sources, I read indicate some areas captured by SLA were taken back by them and we had to fight hard again and again to regain them.
I hope, I am wrong here but all indications are next few weeks will show us the real situ, we are in!
Rana,
[[In fact some other sources, I read indicate some areas captured by SLA were taken back by them and we had to fight hard again and again to regain them.]]
If so, why Tampilnut hasn't report those incidents. We know, Tamilnut always reported "SLA offencive repulsed" kind of stories.
Mohammed Zubair,
Mate, just after my posts describing wijayapala as a humanist, you said:
//Wijayapalanthan,
As we get closer and closer to Kili, your tiger stripes are becoming more and more visible.
Keep fooling the gullible bloggers here. Those of us who have been blogging for a while, and Asithri in particular has exposed you for what you are.//
I have a high regard for you, Asithri and most others who shows vehement feeling against Wijayapala.
You all may be correct because of longer history of blogging in here and other sites.
However, as a new comer to the site, let us draw our own conclusions about other bloggers.
I see wijayapala's posts are more realistic and humane than most of other posts.
That is why, I read all of his posts with an interest.
We cannot afford to attack or insult somebody just because his/her postings are contradictory to what we believe.
I may be a gullible prey to a somebody who is disguised as a patriot or to some others who were careless enough to brand an innocent as a traitor in a hurry.
Either way, disrespect on others judgement and spoon feeding someone else is not my style.
Still one mile from Killinochchi?
I'm in tears today after finding out that our good old General Tissa Weeratunga died some five years ago. I've been waiting for him to wipe out the LTTE in six months.
rana,
again you are confused.
may be i'm using the wrong terms. sorry if i did so.
by north-east tamils i meant TAMILS OTHER THAN PLANTATION TAMILS.
in all likelihood their population growth (whether in north-eat, otther parts of Sl or outside SL) should be similar to the general population growth.
remember i'm taking into account post-83 tamil migrants into the calc. so your concerns do not arise.
got it???? happy to explain.
Nisal,
mate, tamilnut is not reporting anything without filtering it with their coloured glass.
Let me give you an example:
We spend good number of soldiers in Muhamalei and Kilai front to have 01km teritory. What is happening there now. Do you know anything? why SLDF is silent about Muhamalei front?
We have captured Kokavil twice, if I am correct. Why?
Don't assume now, I am trying to demoralise you all but it is better, if we keep our eyes and ears open.
Navindran may be a bipolar hullucinist but read his writings carefully, you may find something inbetween his lines.
rana,
you aer 100% wrong about wesa-pala.
bugger hides behind what he pretends to show as "humanity" and promotes tamil separatist sakkiliyas.
mano ganeshan sakkiliya is same as wesapala (the unpaid slutt) sakkiliya.
he has many human rights organisations (including CMC - civilians monitoring some crap....) for his "humanitarian" BULLSHITT!!
Moshe,
Sorry, I don't see it but happy to leave it there, brother.
We don't have to waste our time on few percentages up or down.
But my argument is they do not deserve special treatment as demanded by power hungry monsters.
last mile,
value your comments. your concerns are valid but not quite relevant WHEN THE BATTLE IS RAGING.
"Most of our jets are bombers. They can't shoot but bomb at determined locations."
so this is what we need. same in the YK war.
"- Tiger hideouts are not properly determined when fighting takes place."
this is not a problem when the battle is on. e.g. - FLIR, etc. can figure out arti/motar positions.
"- Long long time ago we tried that and it didn't work attitude."
i don't think we tried this enough. there is a lot of potential. mi-24s are ACTUALLY doing it but i want jets to do it as well.
IF tigers launch unceasing waves type attacks SLAf WILL BE FORCED to do it preferably with cluster bombs. so it makes perfect sense to AT LEAST have this competency.
"But my argument is they do not deserve special treatment as demanded by power hungry monsters."
100% agree brother. this is the important thing.
after all, who cares (even they don't seem to care)!!!!
lol!!!
Troops Attack LTTE's 3 rd FDL at Muhamalai Northern War Front 2 nd of December 2008 (video)
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Moshe,
Before analysing wijayapala, let me explain my position, on this regard:
1. the present conflict between sinhala and tamil is not entierly tamils fault. We as sinhalese have to take equal blame on driving SL tamils against a blind wall.
2. India is the main culprit for destablishing our country using tamil militants.
3. If vesapille did not kill innocent civilians, pilgrims and buddist monks. If vesapille did not commit abominable crimes against humanity on ethenic sectors in SL. If vesapille stricly fought with armed forces while respecting Geneva rules for military engagements.
I will not be in this blog supporting SLDF.
I rather let them to settle it the way they want. I am here spending my precious time and labour only to see that LTTP is completely eliminated and vesapille and pottu is punished for their crimes.
Wijyapala is also agreed with me on that.
That is all, I am not interested in his other beliefs or theories. He has his own rights to believe and practice whatever, he wants.
As long as, he is not insulting our brave hearts, on pricipal, I am with him.
Moshe,
Vesapille is driving tamil fanatics into blind hatred against sinhalese and muslims to achieve his end of selfish goals.
Some tamil fanatics volunteered and other were forcibly taken to the pact, nothing ealse. All others including T'naady politicos, Norweygiens and few politicos from western world helped him purely because of well oiled propaganda machine.
Sujeewa Kokawala,
I agree with your view, that Kilinochchi should be used to tie down the LTTE cadres while the SLA goes after other objectives. The name of the game is to use encirclement, and cutting off supply routes, as a way of making strong points fall, without frontal attacks that sacrifice the lives of our soldiers unnecessarily. They have to withdraw belore being encircled or abandon those fighters to eventual death or surrender.
However, frontal attacks on FDLs at strong points cannot altogether be avoided, either to prevent the LTTE from withdrawing their cardres to other hot spots, or to create breakthroughs when intelligence shows that the frontlines are weakly defended by such withdrawals.
The civilians trapped along route A-35 will be able to flee only when the SLA encircles the stretch of A-35 between Velikkandal and Puthikuddrippu. That will make the escape path very short, and the impending defeat of the LTTE obvious to the bulk of these people who are held prisoner and are spied upon by Mahaveer family members.
All of these objectives must be reached very soon, well before the Indian elections. The path to achieving that is to slice and dice the remaining uncleared LTTE territory with tactical SLA advances that isolate strong points and population centers from one another and make them untenable.
I believe that VP will cling onto his fantasy of rescue by India, in the same way Hitler clung onto his fantasies of superweapons and fictional new divisions until the very last in Berlin. By the way, at the end, Hitler ordered his staff to destroy all resources the German people needed to live, because he concluded that they lost the war because the Germans did not fight hard enough to win, and did not deserve to live. That is the way of the megalomanic: never accept fault and take everyone with you to the next world.
rana,
"Some tamil fanatics volunteered and other were forcibly taken to the pact, nothing ealse."
this is ONLY one part of the problem. the problem is seperatism.
peaceful seperatism that started in 1920s is actually MUCH more dangerous than vezapillai's seperatism.
we can raape vezapillai's seperatism behind closed doors. but to kill peaceful seperatism is very difficult. but it must be killed BOTH by using polics and violence.
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rana,
continuing.....
so you agree that war is the way to tackle violent tamil seperatists.
we can move further.
the war must be carried out in such a way to kill both the violent form of seperatism and the peaceful form of seperatism.
why?
bcos war is only an extention of politics.
we CAN (CAN, CAN, CAN) achieve political ends through war. (of course political solutions are needed too).
FULL FLEDGED tamil seperatism started in 1920s. since then ALL (i mean ALL) major tamil parties in parliament was dominated by tamil racists. but thanks to the war, we have managed to SUPPRESS it to a great deal.
thanks to war, part of the hardline tamil seperatists left the country. the die-ass-pora cannot vote in SL. this gives a big political advantage for anti-tamil-eseperatsits.
a proper census after the war and re-assigning parliamentary seats in the north-east will seal the fate for peaceful tamil seperatism. therefore, for this to happen, we should win the war.
pending that, 1994-style elections should be held in the north-east. this can temporaily supress peaceful tamil seperatism.
in 1994, EPDP got about 10 seats and there was no problems as TNA causes today. it MUST be repeated until a reallocation of parliamentary seats.
how war helps this is anybody's guess!!!
TF my argument is.........
1. war is THE MAIN solution for violent tamil seperatism.
2. war is ALSO a BIG PART of fcuking and destroying peaceful tamil seperatism.
giving into peaceful tamil seperatism can NEVER bring peace and unity. it must also be destroyed, through war and through peaceful-political means.
Good Morning Sri Lankans and other dying Pure Breeds! Ha ha pls die ASAP!!!
Victory to SLDF!!!
Thanks DW for the up-dates!
It is good news all around after 2 days absent from the blog!
Best news of all is Meeharak Mahen going to open his own blog! Ha ha ha I am laughing my nuts off!!! Just to give a heads start to this meeharaka and to make it easy to get it going, I got few names too. If u choose a name from me then I’ll give u a banana! A massive one! Ha ha ha
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Meeharak Mahen, so, once u open ur own blog u’ll fcukoff from DW and DN? Can u fcukoff from DW and DN forever? I mean forever ever???
Imagine this Meeharak blog once all the Meeharak start visiting it! Remember we used to say “meeharak napu walak wage”?? that’s exactly how it will look like!! ha ha ha Pls don’t come back stupid!
Dues:
RIP Mj: Lalith Jayasinghe
Welcome back Ogre!!! Good to c u again mate!!! I have done my bit with helping a WIA family and waiting for the reply.
Good on Dinky Winky for teaching some rejected lord puffta bit about first aid and SL hospitals. These puffta’s haven’t been to SL after their parent got Refugee Visa but are experts in SL matters. How pathetic!
Rana, thanks for the email and reply on ur way soon.
Moshe,
Peaceful seperatism is almost dead, vesapille did it for us. If we can eliminate successfuly LTTP leadership and most of its cadres before this war is over, tamils cannot think about seperatism for next 20 years, providing we adderess their grievances without devolution of political power. We also need to reduce their population density in north and east by resettling our communities which were chased out by LTTP forcefully. Example resettling muslims in Jaffna and our villagers in Mavil aru, gajaba pura etc areas.
Morning AGG,
mate, you are back with showing vigour and vitality all over!
Take your time for replying, brother.
Moshe,
War is forced upon us by the basterd vesapille, he under estimated us very badly. Yes, this war is the answer for many problems forced upon us by various factions intensionaly or unintentionaly.
Wijeyapala,
I have also commented on some people's misplaced pride in some 'indo-aryan' ancestry, but will leave it at that.
The Hindus did not have structures such as dagabas to venerate their gods. Their temples originally were very simple affairs, usually a simple single-room brick building to house the god. It is for this same reason why Tamil Nadu as a whole does not have the same archeological finds as Sri Lanka
So they did not have any large temples?
Surely if there were structures that approach the scale of the temples of Madurai we would find them. It just never was there.
The language of the Nagadipa inscription made by King Parakramabahu should give an impression of the people who were living in Jaffna nearly a 1000 years ago.
Just because the motto of Royal College is 'Disce Aut Discede' does not mean that Romans were there. You can also find Latin scriptures in England (eg. Magna Carta) from the times well after the Romans left.
No doubt Tamil was an important language both in South India and Sri Lanka at that time.
But whether there was a continuous Tamil civilization in Sri Lanka is a totally different matter.
Rana
Yes, defence.lk do not report 100% truth all the time. They may not report some events and report partially - half truth when things are not good for them (us). And that's why we are here. Right now both DN and DW are lazy and/or don't report much but in the beginning they reported truth very efficiently and reliable manner: (From AAB attack when GS was hiding the facts), That's why many of bloggers are here.
And, yes defence.lk may report higher enemy casualties: Some time they say numbers are based on enemy communication and sometimes based on observations of ground troops. I don't know they inflate numbers by themselves. But if we believe them numbers via enemy communication has to be true again assuming SLA has got it rightly. But if the numbers are based on troops observations they may not be 100% correct as its difficult to decide one few hundred meters away is injured, critically injured or dead. However number of bodies hand over must be true.
For own casualties, I don't know why we do not report or report deflation numbers. However, defense minister report these to the parliament at end of each month and they must be true. I guess, when the news is hot GSL is reluctant to release true details and this is where opposition and enemy capitalize.
Usually each side want to show own casualties are relatively low while enemy casualties are high. While you are interested in real casualties and damages military planners may think it’s important to keep moral up of the troops rather than surrendering and hence they may choose false-propaganda or mis-information campaign as opposed to giving "accounting report".
Both sides do the same propaganda. But LTTE is expert in propaganda while GSL is not. Also, GSL has democratic enemy (opposition) while LTTE has none. According to GSL 10,000+ tigers are dead this year while it is 3000- according to LTTE. Now both of these can't be true. But our di-ass-pora believes 3000- figure becuz LTTE is too good in their propaganda and they like it. For us; opposition supporters do not like existing government figures.
Muhamale what happened: I am not sure. But Sarath Fonseka always say something else. He said "after we get pooneryn, we get K'chi and then we make a line and walk eastwards". But what happened; after Pooneryn they took Mankulama and TF3 now go along A34. Same for the numbers; Both DN and DW gave LTTE strength as 40,000+ when SLA started at Mavil Aru. I believe that figure as it makes sense and I understand Sarath Fonseka's numbers (for both existing cadres and time to end the war) as part of strategy. That is my choice and you like to believe him and later get contradictions!
I am with you regarding Wijayapala. I too do not agree with him 100% but he is kind of a person MR need to have in his team - my opinion.
/Navindran may be a bipolar hullucinist but read his writings carefully, you may find something inbetween his lines./
Rana
Navindran is little behind "Alice in Wonderland". He use all worst case scenarios for SL, 100% pesimistic for SL while 100% optimistic for LTTE. His theories remind me: He goes to a "poll waththa" (coconut garden?) and he see one "nidikumba" (?) plant. Now all his observations about that single nidikumba plant!
Ninja,
To the point as always. thanks bro, we are in the same wave length and propagating into the future. I want to believe defence.lk no matter for the moment even it exagarate achievements and reverses failures, Time will tell us the truth.
Ninja,
Agree but read what I said:
//you may find something inbetween his lines./
Most of the time he is in wonder land searching for the rabbit hole. Nevertheless, Once in a while he say some sensible things also.
kaatikuddupaan
/lately I've been suspecting that this forum is developing a supremacist agenda./
I don't think so. Well, time to time super intelegent, geneticaly superiour tamiz race sole reps come here and remind the sinhala modayas about thier supremecy but we don't believe.
/You talk of putting muslims in Jaffna ! Not even Sinhalese but muslims who are naturally hostile to both our races./
LTTE chased away with 24 hour notice 200,000+ muslims with thier clothes only. They are supposed to go back when peace is there. In fact, sinhala, muslim and tamils should be able to live any wher in SL as they like. That's for what we - SLA are fighting for.
/What do you want people like me to do ?/
We need you to understand how people belong to different ethnic groups can live in harmony, how to respect other people (those who with different views and different ethnic backgrounds are included.)
/Take this crap, while you destroy our demography and whole landscape./
It is VP has destroyed whatever you had in NE and rest of the SL as well, I mean mostly.
/If you still want the problems then we are ready to fight again for Prabhakaran./
Its not clear 'If you still want the problems' means. Mate, but if you need 100% pure tamil homeland you have to be with prabakaran - not with us.
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kaatikuddupaan,
//You talk of putting muslims in Jaffna ! Not even Sinhalese but muslims who are naturally hostile to both our races.//
In general muslims were never hostile to any race. From 1983, it is part of tamil community became hostile to both sinhalese and muslim communities.
Le me tell you something kaati, prior to 1983 riots, when we travel from colombo to jaffna, up to madavachchiya you people are travel as humble as you can, them from madavachchiya most of tamils change their colour and become hostileand arrogant to us. That is my own experience and it says lot about some people from jaffna.
Therefore, most of jaffna tamils had superiority complex and racism buil into them even before 1983.
In short, if you people don't want to live with other ethenic people sharing available resorces, then there is no place for you people in this whole world!
Moshe,
1. Can you give me an indication as to why Killi is receiving relatively more air sorties compared to Mullaithiwu.
2. Do we (SLN) have enough capabilities in softening Mullaithiwu from sea.
It seems like LTTE got another blow with the cluster bomb ban story
"The United States, China, India, Israel, Pakistan and Russia are among countries refusing to sign the cluster bomb ban."
Tamilnut was trying hard but no luck again.
The funny part:
"Norway, which has led efforts to ban cluster bombs, was the first to sign the Convention on Cluster Munitions, which bans the use, production, and sale of the weapons"
LOL
/Spot the word contest... Where is the word 'Tamil' in this text?/
Gringo,
This text was from US. They identified people - human beings, victims of flood - and offer help. If tamilnut editor wrote this then people become tamils and rain become sinhala racist government's another genocide or some thing!
Kaati ..
Yes There are muslims around the world who are and who believe that they should convert every person in the world to Muslims .
The Muslims in Sri Lanka have lived within our collective societies with less problems than most . So just because some muslims are extremists it is not right to persecute all .
they are a part of our society as much as any Sinhalese or Tamil is.
To punish them for an alleged view for a few is wrong . I think there has been a tunnel vision of hate that the LTTE has permeated in Tamil society , you are not the only one I have met with this view but it has surprised me a great deal
/Still one mile from Killinochchi?/
One happy tiger - No worries howcome SLA are now 1 mile from K'chi!
Rana
As I remember GSL never declared Kokavil libertaed twice. First they said SLA took Kokavil railway station and closing to the tower. It was fully liberated and announced few days ago.
If you see carefully all the time defence.lk reports 'key town' (Mallavi, Thunukkai etc) falls when SLA enters the town and they declare it is liberated after SLA takes full control of whole town. Of course, SF/commando teams enter well before infantry troops enter but GSL don't report that.
Yes, about Navindran. He just reminds us "its not all right... see there were mistakes, mis-judgements in past... history can repeat... be carefull... you may have this and that problems..." Yes, this is good. How good is that some one help us /GSL/ SLA in this way so that we can lookback, look forward and be more prepared! I think that's what we should do.
kaatikuddupaan,
Mate, you got some valid points there, about what is going in other places.
However, if we start from the platform you managed to explain vivdly, we will never achieve racial harmony in any country.
Please think again, brother.
kaati,
mate, value your comments.
but you are trying to play a game of sentiments with me knowing well that i have middle-eastern connections that are GENERALLY considred against muslims.
but i have overcome that (most ppl have). i don't even hate the aryans (apart from being part aryan)!!!!!!
did i tell you the story that when i was a kid (schooling in colombo) there was a fight with 2 (VERY good) muslims friends. i went home and said there was an anti-semetic attack!!!! i got it from my parents!!
we HAVE to (SHOULD, MUST, OUGHT to, GOT to, NEED to) live with ppl of ALL races.
if anyone can't do that, he/she has a SERIOUS problem.
ALL my tamils friends hate muslims sooooo much and they praise the LTTE for what they did in 1990. they too are VERY scared that ppl other than northern tamils will come to "their" areas after the war.
but in a civilised society "solutions" are not so easy.
we should find solutions WITHIN co-existance.
"If you still want the problems then we are ready to fight again for Prabhakaran"
a "fantastic" statement which i hear from my tamils friends OFTEN. we are against the LTTE when it create too much violence. we prefer to get our demands peacefully. but if you don't PEACEFULLY give tamil elam, we will fight; thats what they say.
we are ready to face it too!!!!!
the war is against tamil elam
saman,
mate, will give an analysis later.
for the time being q #2. - yes.
/true some of our people have this superior type attitude even within our own race. This is totally wrong. However there is no harm involved. Never would you find that this would boil into physically harming a Sinhala person or even another type of tamil./
Well, there may be people with such superiour mindsetting and not physically harming others. But when it comes to ethnic conflicts this superior/ inferiour complexity plays a key role. You say it... Some one else belive it... Some one else get killed...
If you made a decesion to kill your mind made the decesion first.. And what inside your mind mattars!
Also, yes: Muslims make some kind of troubles. But so far they have shown they can live in peace with the majority. And yes, things are different where they are the majority. But just becuz few muslims you can't say all of them are like that. We had a hard time convincing some sinhalese that all tamils are not like tigers.
DW and DA
Please read the "Long Ranger" article. Just, beautiful. Can you beat him with another good one (please)? I am bored of all this crying, whining and other BS in the comment section here at DW (not your fault). (Pardon me, few good bloggers posting here).
podi eka,
the facts you stated from TN are true.
SL never intended to sign the ban. probably SL is under pressure from the IC too. but the TN is trying to exploit the matter by catogorising the OFAB-500(sh) as a "cluster" bomb.
yes; still SL should not give a rat's arse about it.
12,000 SLA killed in 3 years, another 12,000+ wounded.
The cost of corrupt Mahinda's war...
http://www.tamileelamnews.com/news/publish/tns_10551.shtml
Task Farce 4 is apparently new conscript recruits that have not completed 8th grade.
By the way all those soldier poses DW keeps posting are completing fake. These are action shots commissioned by Ponseka to attract more gays of his ilk to the military.
Moshey
[the war must be carried out in such a way to kill both the violent form of separatism and the peaceful form of separatism. why? bcos war is only an extension of politics. we CAN (CAN, CAN, CAN) achieve political ends through war. (of course political solutions are needed too). FULL FLEDGED tamil separatism started in 1920s. since then ALL (i mean ALL) major tamil parties in parliament was dominated by tamil racists. but thanks to the war, we have managed to SUPPRESS it to a great deal. thanks to war, part of the hardline tamil separatists left the country. the die-ass-pora cannot vote in SL. this gives a big political advantage for anti-tamil-separatists.]
Moshey, I could not have said it better brother!
Kudos to you!
OaO Asithri
/12,000 SLA killed in 3 years, another 12,000+ wounded.
The cost of corrupt Mahinda's war...
http://www.tamileelamnews.com/news/publish/tns_10551/
-Upul AKA Revy/LNP
We have two happy tigers.
1. Counting miles to K'chi
2. Counting SLA bodies
Ha Ha AND 0.0000787 tigers dead in 3 years and 0.000787+ injured Ha Ha
http://www.tamzezaamfairytails.com/fairytails Ha Ha
In the aftermath of the Mumbai blasts, India's National Security Advisor, M. K. Narayanan has reportedly offered to resign but his resignation was supposedly rejected by the Indian Prime Minister. Instead they are supposedly going to sack a bunch of top level bureaucrats.
Either way it is good news for Sri Lanka. There is no doubt that Narayanan's unwelcome focus on Sri Lanka was probably one of the reasons for the recent calamity in Mumbai and Assam. Now the focus of the Indian political and defence establishment will be on the western coastline of India and on the borders with Pakistan.
One of Naraynan's claims is that he is an expert on Sri Lanka. Rather than helping Sri Lanka, he did all kinds of grandstanding to display his power and importance (e.g., issuing a diplomatic demarche to Sri Lanka about Tamil civilians being killed, sending warships and 3000 troops for the SAARC conference, telling Sri Lanka that it can't buy arms from China and Pakistan)
During the late 80's he was the head of the Indian Intelligence Bureau (IB) when that agency was creating havoc in Sri Lanka. He suceeded J. N., Dixit, as the National Security Advisor after Dixit died in office. Both Dixit and Narayanan came with a mindset that was stuck in the 1980s.
Rana
[the present conflict between sinhala and tamil is not entierly tamils fault. We as sinhalese have to take equal blame on driving SL tamils against a blind wall.]
Brother, I strongly and vehemently DISAGREE with you here.
I don’t know about you, but although my clan hails from our proud Ruhuney, I was born and raised in Colombo and went to a leading Colombo school for my education. Without sounding to be presumptuous and exhibiting any silly-vanity here, let me factually tell you that my parents were not exactly “paupers” and they did mingle with the Who’s-Who of the Colombo high society when I was growing up and the number of very well established – both in the private sector and the government – Tamils that my family associated were many, many in number. Most were either very successful businessmen, judges, lawyers, accountants and yes some were holding high ranking positions in the GOSL administration too (in both UNP and SLFP governments)!
As such, now when I look back I say to myself, where the FUCK was this so called discrimination that racist Tamils level against us?????
Leave aside my own background…
It is a fact (by recorded statistics) that Sri Lankan Tamils have always been one of the most privileged minorities in the world where members from that minority have had far above their percentage (in the population) the plum jobs as doctors, engineers, accountants, lawyers, and yes, even in the civil service of the country!
As such brother, I DO NOT agree that we Sinhelas “have to take equal blame”…
The fact is that these Tamils were always racist to the core (given the predominant “TamilNadu” factor; given the predominant “Hindu factor” of India, the mighty neighbor of SL) and they were always aiming to breakaway from the rest of Sri Lanka and form the separate state their Chola/Dravida ancestors could not.
First they agitated for power based on communal politics (e.g. asking for 50% guaranteed seats in the parliament as independence time!), which we resisted peacefully, to which they then became even more agitated and resorted to violence (e.g. like the burning of hundreds of CTB busses in Jaffna that I remember as a kid), to which violence (from them) we gave response even more violent, and so on and on, the cycle of attack-counterattack just spiraled downward as we all know.
If all this sounds strange to you, I suggest you talk to an older, Motherlanka-loving patriot (such as your father, uncle, etc.) who lived in Sri Lanka and saw the beginning of this vile “thamileelam” racism.
Cheers,
OaO Asithri
Wijayapalathan
[Arse}
Yep Sakkiliya...”Arse” is what I fucked in your Tamil racist whore-mother last night and let me tell you, she loved every bit (or drop should I say?) of it! Wanted an encore, but alas, I had run out of Viagra! LMSSAO!!!
Howz that Sakkiliya? Like it? I bet you do!
You Tamil racist Sakkili bitch may hoodwink some of our Sinhela patriots here with your seemingly “intellectual” talk, but let me tell you, NO, yours very humble OaOA always smelled the rotten bitch you are (must be that rotten/fungi thalathel odour), a mile away in fact, when you first came here.
Keep posting here Tamil racist gook...yes, keep trying to re-write SL history...at the end of the day we will liquidate every single of you racist motherfcukers and rebuild our Motherlanka to her yester-year’s glory! Not a mere promise, but a covenant…get it?
LMSSAO!!!
OaO Asithri
ali, ninja,
"12,000 SLA killed in 3 years, another 12,000+ wounded"
guys, without jumping into a sudden conclusion, read between the lines.
LTTE decalres the number of "mahaveers" annually after CAREFULLY studying the SLA casualties. they stop their count at that. that is how they have come up with 23,000. the reality is much much higher.
this is reverse engineering.
now they are basing their BS logic on re-reverse engineering!!!
SF mentioned that for the past 3 years 12,000 tigers died and an equal number was injured (may have died later).
phew!
now it is 100% certain that this 12,000 LTTE INITIAL deaths is CORRECT!!!!
monkey business of copying statistics!!!!! the fault lies in hanuman, their great great monkey!!!
DW,
This cluster bomb attack came on tamilnut few days back and everybody knew there will be a meeting to sign banning cluster bomb use headed by Norway dogs. Now keheliya has made some comments.I raelly don,t understand where goverment properganda people stand.All the time these idiots come up with some replies after damage is done.They should have started counter this properganda immedietly that news came out.
Norways was first to sign the agreement. My balls......yes they will sign and get the things done though terrorist groups, funding money and taking them to their bases and advising. What do these terrorist supporters say about USA.
Rana,
SLA didn't capture Kokavil earlier.They captured Kokavil railway station.Railway station is on the left hand side(west) of the A9 road. Kokavil town and TV tower is on the right hand side of the A9 road.SLA had influenced with small team penitration in Kokavil till last week.Last week only they captured entire area. I feel most of the bloogers who blame SLA don,t even have a proper road map of the country.Forget about geography of the Vanni.If you don,t have one try it in SL grocery shops in AUS or ask somebody in SL to send it you.A big one.
Talking about Muhammalai,SLA don,t have to go for another suiside mission.Some times patience pay a big price.If we have to take Muhammalai to EP,we have to position out MBRL's, arties and 120m motars in Poonarin and give heavy beating across KIlali lagoon on lttp concetration in that stretch. To do so we have to clear Paranthan and some areas to keep lttp arties away from Poonarin.lttp has maped every inch in Poonarin.Then only 53D and 55D can cross with minimum damage.From other side of the neck SLN has to guard and give some fire support to the 53 and 55.Then only we can go for maximum kill.Ofcourse we can extensively use SLAF in that area,since no civilians in that stretch.
Last weeks heavy rain fall was given both side bad news.lttp released gates on Iranamadu tank to slow/damage SLA ops.But unexpetedly the water has damaged some lttp area and their assets also.They miscalculated the water flow opening it and dreaming to damage maximum to SLA.We lost few soldiers for the sudden rise of the water level and flow.
I was in SL for a few days last week and took off from KIA only i realised how low and thik was the clouds were.SLAF have noway could operate at that condition.After about 150m onwards miles long thik clouds and covered entire country and part of south India as well.
Asithri,
cheers, bro.
mate, it is better not to answer this lowlife wesa-pala.
he wants tamil elam, FULLSTOP.
I've a suggestion for Mahen's blog.
Veza Pa*aya's Sakkili Slaves
I've been following this blog for quite some time. I felt there was some input needed regarding kaatikuddupaan's comment.
Muslims in general are okay people. Lately there has been a rise in islamic extremism especially seen here in the west. The muslims that are creating mayhem around the world are brainwashed or oppressed. For example Mumbai attacks could have been avoided if both India and Pakistan solved the Kashmir issue, as the attackers seem to be from that region. Ultimately to solve this issue it is the moderates that must rise and condemn these actions.
I'm not sure if this is true, but I've heard one of the reasons why LTTE kicked out the muslim population, was because many of them were informants and helping the SLDF.
Dear Patriots,
Looks like terrorists sympathizers in Norway have started their song and dance about cluster bomb ban treaty. In tandem this TNA goon Gajendran has started crying about them.
It's fantastic that our chaps had the foresight not to sign this so called 'Wellington Declaration'. If we had signed on to this dumb declaration, we would have agreed in principle that our stockpiles of such munitions should be destroyed. There are 75 countries that stockpile these munitions, so it's not like we are the only one.
We need to drop cluster bombs on the fat terrorist and his goons until the last goon is blown to smithereens.
Cheers!
Asithri,
Regarding your December 4, 2008 7:57 AM reply to Rana
Quote:
"[the present conflict between sinhala and tamil is not entierly tamils fault. We as sinhalese have to take equal blame on driving SL tamils against a blind wall.]
Brother, I strongly and vehemently DISAGREE with you here."
End Quote
I too come from a background similar to yours in Sri Lanka, have had, and currently have many SL Tamil friends. I totally reject the notion that there was any discrimination against SL Tamils that warrented the call for a separate state, either during the early Chelvanayakam days or the more recent period.
The problems seems to me that
1. they mourn the loss of the privileges they enjoyed under colonial rule as the formerly disenfranchised Sinhala people gained equal status after independence
2. they felt they could preserve those privileges in a Tamil-only Eelam carved out from Sri Lanka, with the help and support of Tamil Nadu/India.
3. they could retain equal rights in the "sinhala-dominated" south of Sri Lanka.
Who in the world can resist the temptation of such a great deal in which "you can have your cake and eat it too"? This reminds me of British Colonial Policy in the past that can be summed up as "what is mine is mine; what is yours is negotiable"!
In most countries emerging from colonial bondage, privileged segments of society lost ground as the disenfranchised masses came into their own and demanded social equity for the majority of the people. The privileged classes usually respond in one of four ways: 1. they fight to maintain supremacy, 2. they fight for a separate state, 3. they give up and flee abroad, or 4. they make common cause with the society at large and adjust their aspirations accordingly.
This has happened in many countries, such as Sri Lanka, and South Africa, and in India where the second phase is now underway with the poor clamouring for equity.
Wise and enlightened people choose the last path, for that is the dharmishta path towards a just and stable socity.
Asithri,
Brother, you said:
//Brother, I strongly and vehemently DISAGREE with you here//
So, you think, we as sinhala majority in SL very innocent on this conflict.
First what I heard as a child, some poor tamils were burned with boiling tar (biutuman compoubd) in late 50s.
Second what I have seen my self:
Gangodawila during early 70s: Our hooligans with pouring "JATHYALAYA" attacked poor barber shop with swords, that is the first time, I saw innocent blood in a conflict.
Third: 1981 Balangoda, Pelmadulla, and Kahawatta area: screless number of up country estate tamils were attacked and chased out from their estate lines.
1983, Wellawatta, Dehiwala, Ratmalana and Moratuwa, what I have seen is more than enough.
So, please do not tell me, we are innocent. I mean we didn't attack but we let those atrocities happened, it si all same.
That is what vesapille used to gather strength.
So, we equaly to blame.
We have say in SL: "THANI ATHIN APPUDI GAHANNA BE" , think about it.
If our low level patriotic basterds did not attack those people for 13 soldiers killed in the north. International opinion whould have been on our side. We are the people gave ammunition to LTTP to launch propaganda war against SL and sinhalese.
It is you that need to ask older people, what exactly happened in SL during last 50 years.
/ali, ninja, guys, without jumping into a sudden conclusion, read between the lines./
MD
Ya, I have to agree with you. You know, as usual before commenting I checked with my source and confirmed that:
/Task Farce 4 is apparently new conscript recruits that have not completed 8th grade/
So Upul/Revy is right.
But still good; they are 3 grades better than thier grade 5 drop out leader. Ha Ha
And all others except TF4 are PhD holders like Upul/Revy. Ha Ha
/12,000 SLA killed in 3 years, another 12,000+ wounded./
This is also true. There may be a zero missing. But the problem is TNA got the news with a typo and now going to worship and beg Man Mohan for ceasefire. Since they have 20 Man Mohan is going to do "kan kan booru" with them. Ha Ha
/By the way all those soldier poses DW keeps posting are completing fake./
This also true; completely fake. This is called posting genocide. Ha Ha
/These are action shots commissioned by Ponseka to attract more gays of his ilk to the military./
Surprisingly this is also true. The real reason Mon-gal crying also related to this GAY issue. Ha Ha
Now I am getting seriuos; Check this. How LTTE fool sinhala modyas army
BTW, Why do you guys suggest Mahen some long long names for his blog. He will have hard time tyoing such long URLs with getting page cannot be found. Ha Ha So please tell him some short name so that he can remember and type it correctly.
Earlier I used to watch cartoons in newspapers for fun...now di-ass-pora provide 100% free fun - full athal.
Ananda-USA
[I totally reject the notion that there was any discrimination against SL Tamils that warrented the call for a separate state, either during the early Chelvanayakam days or the more recent period.]
Very true!
Once the British-favored, unfair privileges and practices were on the downward scale (e.g. due to universal franchise where finally the down-trodden Sinhela Buddhist masses were going to have a say over their governance/desinty) in post-independent SL, these Tamil racist whore bastards/bitches got their knickers twisted around their ankles!
The rest is the contemporary history of Sri Lanka as we know today.
Cheers brother....
OaO Asithri
Othiyamale
ninja,
"ali, ninja, guys, without jumping into a sudden conclusion, read between the lines"
you got it in the right spirit!!
lol!
kaati,
"I have shed blood and I am not afraid to do it again to safeguard our nation"
our nation?????
i'm happy if it is sri lanka. in Sl there are ppl of all races in EVERY part of the country.
if it is not SL, you will never get it.
kaati,
Now you are threatening us. We have many people with arms to shed blood in SL. One more joining to them will not make much difference, if it is your choice.
However, I will not change my mind about sharing SL equaly with all races, any body can go anywhere, and live anywhere he/she decide. That is the bottom line, we will expect after the war.
Lankapura,
"So they did not have any large temples? Surely if there were structures that approach the scale of the temples of Madurai we would find them."
The Sri Meenakshi temple in Madurai was not always that big; it was a small structure that eventually grew in size over time given the patronage of the Pandyas, Vijayanagar, and Madurai Nayakar kings. There are a number of holy sites in Tamil Nadu which are tiny but are still highly important.
"But whether there was a continuous Tamil civilization in Sri Lanka is a totally different matter."
There was from about the time of Kalinga Magha (i.e. the fall of Rajarata) onwards.
Rana
Now I see why you go softy on this "Wijayapalathan" Tamil racist motherfucker!
You are just hung up on the effects (or manifestations) that came out of the Tamil racists' agenda that spanned well over a very long time before that “effects” or violence began.
You relate these violent incidences against Tamils (which I do not condone) as one-sided, but do you know what the Tamils did to the Sinhelas in the N & E of SL (in the 50’s and 60’s and 70’s) that may have precipitated such "mob" violence? What do you know about the horrific pogroms these Tamil racists have carried out against hapless Sinhela farmers as well as their temples and Buddhist priest in the N & E, in around or preceding the attacks you mention here against Tamils?
Yes, did you know that even our Lt. Gen Sarath Fonseka's family was attacked unprovoked in the predominantly Tamil dominated Eastern province (in Amparai to be exact) when he was just a child? (btw, the Tamil racist undercover motherfucker "Wijayapathan" vehemently denied this and tried to attack me until he was proven wrong in an earlier thread).
As such...
Let us not get hung up on violence and counter-violence...as it will get us nowhere because it will always be debated as to "who threw the first stone"...
But rather, let us look at the big picture...the root causes...
The big picture being that these Tamil racist motherfuckers were gunning for a separate state as far back as 1929 and so much so, in 1946 (long before all these violent acts from Sinhelas on Tamils happened as per your account) these racist motherfuckers DEMANDED from their (yes, they were favored over us Sinhelas) British masters that upon granting independence, SL Tamils MUST be given 50% of GUARANTEED representation in the parliament!!!
Rana, I think you seriously need a substantive "catch up" in SL contemporary history (not the mere “violent acts” or the kind of history that the likes of Tamil racist "Wijayapalathan" spews here)...sorry to say, but it appears you are seeing the trees and missing the woods man!
The bottom line: Sri Lanka’s territorial integrity and sovereignty is NOT negotiable (which I am sure you agree with)…and anything that even remotely threatens it, in my view, must be liquidate “with extreme prejudice.” If we are ever at that stage in our continuing 2600 year old civilization in our Motherlanka, in my view it does not matter who threw the fcuking first stone as Motherlanka’s territorial integrity and independence is paramount over all else!
OaO Asithri
Wijeyapala,
Can you explain to the largely ignorant bloggers about the Yalpanam Vypoohamalai?
That might prove that there was a continuous Tamil civilisation in the island from about the time of Kalinga Magha.
Rana,
"If our low level patriotic basterds did not attack those people for 13 soldiers killed in the north. International opinion whould have been on our side. We are the people gave ammunition to LTTP to launch propaganda war against SL and sinhalese."
It took a lot of balls for you to say that. Dumb-Arse, Mushe and other similar "low level patriot bastards" may not understand what you wrote but it makes no difference.
Speaking of which, I've seemed to have seriously pissed them off lately. Look at Dumb-Arse's love messages to me (something about how he wants me to get into his Arse...). It doesn't take much to bring out his Tamil-hating interior and expose his racist crap.
If you can educate the Arse on SL history, then more power to you.
"As long as, he is not insulting our brave hearts, on pricipal, I am with him."
The reason I don't talk much about the soldiers is that I know they don't read these blogs. If any current or previous soldier comes on this blog then I will show him proper respect (like David Blacker, who have far more sense than some of the keyboard generalissimos here), but it seems that they're not wasting their time.
On the other hand there are plenty of Tamils and others who read this blog, and I write to show them that not all Sinhalese get quiet when Dumb-Arses and Mushes get out of line. The LTTE is getting its ass kicked and many Tamils want to see whether there's an alternative.
"Ogre said LTTP has 12000 cadres to defend Kili alone with 1200 hardcore fighters."
I think that number is a bit high. 1200 at most are defending Kili.
"There have been archaeological findings in Jaffna from nearly 2400 years ago that had the early Sinhela letters on many artifacts dug out from that era"
LOL what a Dumb-Arse. The oldest Brahmi inscriptions go back 2300 years to the reign of King Uttiya who succeeded Devanampiya-Tissa, and they aren't in Jaffna. As for the fragmentary potsherds, they have Brahmi characters as there weren't any "Sinhala letters" back then, meaning they could have been in either language back then (since Tamil and Sinhala prakrit inscriptions both used Brahmi script).
Peace Be to All,
"Can you explain to the largely ignorant bloggers about the Yalpanam Vypoohamalai?"
It seems you got the title mixed up- should be Yalpanavaipavamalai.
Ananda-USA
[The problems seems to me that
1. they mourn the loss of the privileges they enjoyed under colonial rule as the formerly disenfranchised Sinhala people gained equal status after independence]
Bull's eye!
This is a fact that a “thamileelamists” especially an undercover "thamileelam" racist motherfucker like “wijayapalanthan” (whose' mother's Arse he wants me to service non-stop; at least so I take it from his OaOA attention begging posts! LMSSAO!!!) will never ever agree to!
I rest my case.
OaO Asithri
[It seems you got the title mixed up- should be Yalpanavaipavamalai.]
my my...such knowledge of exact Tamil history but zippo knowledge of Sinhela history from a filthy son-of-whore who calls himself "Wijaypala"...!!!
Yeah, and I am Charlie Chaplin!!!
LMSSAO!!! Truly LMSSAO!!!
OaO Asithri
Out of topic--
Can any one please explain why GSL is not worried about following.
1. Mihim air - Crash landed once with huge loss. Now again GSL is to re-invest. Eariler its said we need a national career. Now we do have SriLankan with GSL. Why continue, for a probable another bankruptcy?
2. Hedging - Huge possible loss. Why GSL don't wont to save our forex?
3. GSP+ : Well, we don't want to stop the war to get this. But it seems we can work out some thing with EU. Why we have given up?
4. Mumbai- I don't see our politicos using this effectively.
/UNP will not pressurize Govt. for ceasefire - Lakshman
Addressing the parliament today UNP MP Lakshman Seneviratne said that the UNP will not put any pressure on the Government to go for a ceasefire with the LTTE. As a party that had suffered the most at the hands of the LTTE, he said that they are keen to see an end to the war.
UNP to vote for defence budget
During the opening vote on the defence budget in parliament today UNP MP John Amaratunga said that the UNP will vote in favour of it./
Ha Ha It seems UNP has listened to Mon-gal very well....
Boys, kill me if I am wrong but Sinhalese and Tamils both (and Muslims too) are to blame for the mess we are in. Tamils wanted a piece of Sinhalese and SL and Sinhalese thought it is god given right to rule all!
We totally neglected the North and the Deep South! Politicians of all races ate the cake and kept the cake too.
If our politicians gave enough power and money and sex to North and to the Deep South, no youth going to chose a gun over pussy! But they kept all in Colombo!
U may know this story, one day Condoleezza Rice went to buy a jewelry and white women behind the counter ignored her and Rice said “I am earning more than u and that’s why I am in this side and ur behind the counter”! She didn’t took-up arms, why?? She knew she will get what she wants while living with or under whites!
According to Rice, her parent raised her to be “whiter than a white”! How cool is that! How good if a Tamil come to me and say “I am more Sinhalese or Sri Lankan than u”! I would be happy as a pig in the shit hole!
Tamil’s (politicians and leaders) started to build a fence and we for our ignorance didn’t let ordinary Tamil to become Sinhalese or Sri Lankans and we also help to build the fence. And Tamil politicians used that and they widen the boundaries saying we are racists and Tamil need separate land.
And just like JVP then came LTTP! Same story different ends! Only way to stop the blood bath, annihilate LTTP just like JVP including the SunGoat!
I have gr8 regards for Katti for realizing SunGoat is not the answer but mate, there is no way to no Muslims in north BS! One country and we all live where ever we like! And travel and hump!
We have to be smart! Not too-smart! Give little (not the Peellam) and get more! Let every body become Sri Lankans (if they don’t want then just like Aussies says FcukOff!) One country!
Look Guys, I am at a loss here!
Do we want to widen the gap between communities or heal our past wounds to build a new Sri Lanka after the war?
As I see majority of patriots opting for eye to eye strategy. GOSL is fighting the dark evil forces of vesapille with so many obstacles and difficulties. We have a duty for our younger generation to create a better SL after the war.
If we are to tread on confrontational path we will never achieve peace.
SLDF may beat LTTP and kill all pussycats but one day this will start again.
War must go on, LTTP must be beaten, vesapille and pottu should be punished for the crimes they have committed against humanity but we also need to create a conducive environment to achieve peace and harmony for all communities.
As said before, do not allow couple of irresponsible big mouths to over come majority opinion. Silent observers and real patriots must speak loudly and take over responsibility from radicals before it is too late again.
Amma G/G,
Well said, mate!
Can someone explain what is meant by AREA of INFLUENCE in the ORBAT map?
Thanks
Boys, time to go home! Thanks Rana and Wijayapala for some balance!
Die monkeys! Sooner the better! wanna banana??? Ha ha ha
News: 59 Div troops enter Alampil sea tiger bastion.
This is one hideout of the bunker rat. I hope that SLA will find terror bunker here.
wije,
"since Tamil and Sinhala prakrit inscriptions both used Brahmi script."
How much do you know about Tamil and Sinhala Prakrit? How much do you know about Brahmi script? Please enlighten the readership here about early Tamil and Sinhala scripts.
Sam p,
Thanks for the link, just a good news after long enough lull.
good night, Amma G/G!
[59 Div troops enter Alampil sea tiger bastion ]
And here's the best part...
[According to the defence sources it is said that the Mullaittivu has become untenable as the fall of Alampil would facilitate the assault on Mullaitivu. ]
Woo Hoo....Here comes Peelam!
Mahen,
It is better to start your blog as soon as possible.
Otherwise, you will not have many things to right. You are already late.
If you started your blog 6 months earlier, you could have inform us on red birds, strategy for recapturing of Adampan, Poonarin defensive strategy, ceaseless waves at Thunnukayi, strength of Nachchikuda earth bund, etc. etc.
Hey guys, prepare for a grate entertainment. Finally, Tamilnet.tv going to have a competitor.
Ananda -USA,
You got it all wrong, mate., when you replied to asithri on my reply.
I was not discussing about discrimination at all. I was talking about grusome violance shown against innocent tamil people in Colombo for something happene in north.
Vesapille, never had support from majority of tamils prior to 1983 but 1983 incident gave him the unexpected power to bring the carnage up to 21st century.
When I saw my tamil friends in Ratmalana air port refugee camp, all doctors, engineers, accountants, lawyers ete etc. sitting on the floor depending on "parippu" and bread we have provided, I knew, we will have a massive problem.
So please don't say that our side is innocent on this!
Asithri may say lot of filthy words to say something simple, but that does not mean he is correct. We also can beat him with filthy words, if we want but I can't go to such low levels.
However, I am here to stay in my position, no matter what others may have to say. One way or the other, i will fight for what I think is correct.
Guys I also seen a difference in some bloggers viewpoints as we have progressed through this war.. Maybe there is pride of our achievements thus far. But I believe militarily we cannot solve the main problem while LTTE must be crushed the main problem should be tackled with open heart...
1. We should acknowledge our mistakes because we have made few in the past. As Sinhalese we carry some of the blame for this mess.. (Not all the blame because that has to shared between both parties)
2. Tamils has to understand that they will never achieve a separate country till there is one Sinhalese living in this country and if ever Tamils want a separate country they have to kill every Sinhalese there is.
3. The best solution for everybody is to consider this as one country where Sinhalese Tamils Muslims have equal rights where ever they live in this country.
4. It doesn’t matter who started it now.. what matter how we can finish it.
If you hang on to the past have revenge in your hearts and believe that you are higher than other race, it doesn’t matter if we are Sinhalese or Tamils everybody loses..
One more point i forgot to say..
Most poeple who want the war doesnt accutally live in this country.. may it be tamils or sinhalese. poeple like us who live in this country want this war to end have better life. But if we are not willing to come to a middle ground then it is our loss.
There are tamil as well as sinhalese who dont want to find this middle ground. and they are problem to this war.
''12,000 war heroes killed and 12,000 more disabled, says Range bandara
(Lanka-e-News, December 03, 2008, 10.30 PM) Puttalam district United National Party (UNP) MP Palitha Range Bandara said that 12,000 war heroes were killed and 12,000 more were disabled due to the sacrifice of lives for the well being and security of the President Mahinda Rajapakse and his family.
Addressing a press briefing held in the official residence of the Opposition Leader today (03) MP Range Bandara said that the government had not carried out any development in the country.
He further stated that around 8000 women have been widowed due to war.
MP Range bandara said that the Rajapakse regime is conducting war in accordance with a political agenda and not in a way the casualties to the war heroes are minimized. He pointed out that LTTE had held war hero memorial ceremonies in Batticaloa and Ampara districts that the government claimed liberated. Thirteen such ceremonies were held in Vanni that is also claimed liberated.
Range Bandara stated that the UNP had no any deal with the LTTE and the war heroes day speech of Prabakaran proved again that the ceasefire under UNP government brought down the LTTE militarily whilst the government strengthened both militarily as well as economically ''
Dear Patriots? IS this true..? or as usual traitors..since they are talking truth..?
Malin
Couldnt have said it better myself
Wijayapala,
I had missed your previous reply to me. I had heard that Paranavithana went a bit crazy at the end. So, we have to shelve the strategy of South Indians and Sri Lankans being brothers on that count. But the genetic data the history of the collaborative relationship between Pandyas and Sinhala speak for themselves.
"Ado Mayilravana Aiye
"(Moshe, sahodaraya, Meyata nikan inna denna machan)"
Is there a reason why you need Mushe's permission to post here? I know he blows a gasket every now and then but I assure you he's quite harmless."
Heh Heh Heh (Why don't you speak a bit more Kunu Harapa in Sudda Sinhala?)
Regarding Eelam call. I think you should read KT Rajasingham's series on "Sri Lanka, the untold story". The call for Eelam came in 1919 according to him. They were at it before the Sinhala nationalists. Nevertheless it is much of a muchness.
Yes I have seen references to "Tamil" to mean "sweet".
Also,
TammOy = Mother
Oli= speech, sound
?Tamyoli= Mother Tongue
Is it not conceivable that stimulated by Dandidn's work and by Jain Buddhist presence, the Southern Indian and SL intellectuals began a simultaneous focus on the vernacular languages?
Thus Siyabasa would be contemporary with Tamyoli.
Another interesting (you may call it idiosyncratic) aside: the only South Asian language among Sanskrit, Tamil and Sinhala which has the root Tham appears to be sinhala (?Pali origin)- thus ironically Thamyoli is a synthesised version of Siyabasa.
Tamilakam as I have pointed out is a territory in all probability much smaller than say a Nadu or Desa even though an evident group identity had been assigned to such a territory.
Culturally there is very little difference among the South Indian "states" and Sri Lanka. Certain distinction between the regions can certainly be identified and to be noted is that the cultural practices in modern Tamilnadu are very similar to people of Jaffna (as I understand). Similarity in culture between the Sinhalas and the Malayalis can also be noted.
You may or may not be familiar in your specialty about the concept "Identity". To me, identity involves a sense of self which is continuous in time and is linked multidimensionally to one's family experience and history as well as the subculture one is brought up in. The latter brings up the sense of cultural identity which needs consistent cultural practices, and language and a territory which are fused to derive that identity. Such an identity is often given a specific name (e.g. I am English or Sinhala).
In that context an identity which can be considered Tamil (I am Tamil), stable through time with a clearly identified territory and language does not appear to have occurred until the 19th century (am I wrong in this?)
It is interesting that while we may be so interested and curious about the Tamil identity and even fascinated by its relationship to Sinhala, none of the Peelamists here are in the least bit interested. I would propose that this is because they are not interested in such an identity at all. Most them are English educated Thakkadiyas or LTTE educated Thal-Buruwas. Their motto is World Domination. Identity appears to be just a means to an end.
malin, brother,
I want to kiss you, maye. You understood, wher I am coming from.
First voice from silent but real patriotic man who understand our position well.
Sri lanka is nothing in the world map, we are depending on other big powers. If we are to carry this thsi war for another year or two we are finished, kapoth.
We must see a light at the end of this war and it has to be within months, we do not have years.
Think, my patriotic majority, if international community goes against us with India at a point, we are done, and loose every thing.
Dutch courage as Asithri shows is nothing, reality is every thing.
You do not have much time to decide.
kaatikuddupaan,
Once again thankyou for standing shoulder to shoulder brother. However, especially as you are a brother, there is no way I can agree about any discrimination against the Sri Lankan Muslims. A more loyal group to Mother Lanka one would not find. Please keep in mind that whether you are Sinhala, Tamil or Muslim in identity, most probably all such "ethnic" groups have the same group of maternal ancestors (at least).
Another matter. Majority of Muslims in SL as I understand belong to SUFI subsect of the Sunnis. They are extremely pious people who are evry much a part of the SL fabric. They visit the same holy places that the rest of SL do. (e.g. Samanala Kanda, Kataragama).
I think that your attempt at marginalising the Muslims is dangerous.
Furthermore, this fight to liberate Vanni is not only to liberate those trapped there (who are all our kith and kin) but also to liberate SL once and for all so that any Sri Lankan is free to move where ever they want to on the island without fear.
Bringing justice to the Muslims of Sri Lanka is a must in this regard.
With regard to India, that nation has much more to fear from numerous factions of terrorists whether they are Muslim or others. LTTE has had a great deal of business with these groups. India needs to be rescued from all these groups not just the Jihadis. Please do not identify Jihadis with Muslims any more than we would permit identification of Tamils with LTTE.
There is no longer any room within the multicultural nation of Sri Lanka for communally based favors. Any one, no matter their background should be able to have ownership of mother Lanka without fear or favour.
Once when I was very young and less knowledgeable, I wanted to stand shoulder to shoulder with Tamils because of what I perceived as Sinhala racism. By this I did not mean the Government, but what I saw among other young people whom I thought were in the minority but also issues such as the Franchise for the estate tamils. Many Sinhalas felt that way. This was way before 1983.
Since then many of us fell silent with shame. That is what the Sinhalas are like. We do not like our image to be sullied by such horrid acts.
However, that period also made me realise that the Tamils were not entirely innocent. That is when I saw the vicious propaganda leveled at the SLG and Sinhala people.
Now after having researched recent history I have great difficulty in standing by Tamils at all for two reasons:
1) I have realised that the Tamil leaders were much more blatant racists than Sinhala leaders ever aspired to be. As a corrolary as Asthiri has pointed out the violence was always two way and often deliberately provoked.
2) Until very recently I have not seen any Tamil publicly acknowledge the wrong done by Tamil leadership to SL and to the Sinhalas. Many sinhalas have acknowledged and apologised many times over.
I would still stand up for any rights of anyone in Sri Lanka. That includes Muslims. But if you want me to stand shoulder to shoulder with Tamils again, then I would require clear and present evidence of loyalty and generosity.
Brother Malin
Amen....
We need more of this.
Rana,
Good point....time is running out fast.
Cheers
malin, brother,
You touch a live point here, I can't speak for others but my self I am immune to what is going in SL.
However, I have lot of my dear friends and relatives whome I care very much. Therefore I also do not like any prolong war in SL.
Best strategy is to defeat the terrorism and live peacefully with others.
I am almost drunk now and good night, brother.
Hey Wijeyapalam,
You may have convinced some bloggers here with your "tamil is superior to Sinhala" and sangam era crap. I have been watching your posts and your main objective seems to be convince that tamil is superior to Sinhala both linguistically and culturally using your pseudo intellectual discussions and citations from dubious sources. You may have fooled the majority, but you have not fooled the likes of Asithri, MZ, Pakka-Lanka, Qrious and myself.
I have observed a pattern, every time we achieve a major military victory, you try to divert attention with your boring blatherings.
Guys, do not fall for this tiger in Lion's mane. As Asithri suspected, he is one of these high caste faffna tamils with a superiority complex who got right royally buggered by the fisherman caste, they have lost all their power and influence.
Guys,
I met a Muslim couple from Bosnia. They are traumatised victims of the Serbian campaign which killed a huge number of Muslim civilians.
These guys (Serb Army) were just animals.
The Europeans know how their own kith and kin behaved in this despicable episode in history.
It is easy then for the white dudes to believe that the darkies would behave in the same way as they have. After all they know themselves the deepest and darkest crimes they are capable of. Of course they come from an area which has been extremely traumatised for a millennium or so. A country like SL has managed to maintain the family connections and structures despite attempted trauma in the past 500 years. Such connectedness makes it impossible to have the emotional distance required to carry out the horrors at the scale that the Serbs did.
(That does not mean that we do not have our own animals who are capable of 83 type violence- obvious- but the scale was miniscule compared to Serbia, Nazi Germany or what the Traumatised Vanni/Jaffna people are capable of)
The Peelamists want to depict the SL Army in the same manner. They have been trying hard to manufacture such evidence. It is to the credit of the SLDF soldiers that they have gained the trust of (for example) Jaffna people. Nevertheless there will be more attempted traps such as the ACF incident.
It is most important that GSL has peremptory strategies against the propaganda war the the Peelamist Seeyas have, are and will carry out.
59 Div troops enter Alampil sea tiger bastion ..
The other battle formation of 591 Brigade, advanced northwards of Kumulamunai, has cut-off the Mullaittivu - Alampil main road in a location a few Kilometers north of Alampil and moved southwards with an effective thrust on Alampil.
According to the defence sources it is said that the Mullaittivu has become untenable as the fall of Alampil would facilitate the assault on Mullaitivu.
"59 Div troops enter Alampil sea tiger bastion"
Sea to sea, Anaconda is squeezing in all the Monkeys are dancing until the Anaconda opens the mouth and swallow them.
there is a reason why muslims can''t assimilate with us. their religious book quran openly states kill and humiliate the non believers.
Only reason why muslims are not doing jihad in SL is because they don't have the numbers yet. Once they reach a certain number then its the next civil war.
They can never assimilate with any of our races. They'll want to form a Pakistan like state in SL because it's their religious duty.
They are not like us tamils who also acknoledge the teachings of Buddha. Even Prabha does this.
SL muslims are getting radicalised hard by Saudi funded preachers. The government and public has no idea about this.
Anyways do you know in 1910, muslims actually stoned a sinhala perehera as it was interrupting their prayer, this caused a major riot which the british had to intervene.
You guys are so caught up in this ahimsa bullshit that you will end up strangers in this divine land.
I'm not threatening to rejoin LTTE, because it goes against many principles of our dharma. However if our country - I mean Lanka is being ruined by silly politicians who want to install muslims where tamils have vacated just to shove our nose in the dirt then what choice do we have than to take up arms again ?
These days Prabha is telling a lot of the hard core cadres to go back to Jaffna and Batti and lie low. Most of them will not do any more work unless threatened.
We have worked to destroy a major enemy of lanka and now
It is up to you Sinhala people to show that you will not betray us
"59 Div troops enter Alampil sea tiger bastion"
Sea to sea, Anaconda is squeezing in all the Monkeys are dancing until the Anaconda opens the mouth and swallow them.
Many of my beloved Diaspora sent me messages why I have different talk this time.
When you see the tape you can just see words and my mouth not going the same. I recorded it to 3 months ago and video editors just got 10 min footage and repeat it again and again matching my words.
Video editors took 2 months and 20 days just to edit this video. Even I was sitting and watching it and thought how talented my video and photographers.
Mathivani asked me why I am trembling in video. This bitch living luxury in South Africa asking me why?
How many times I pissoff my pants during this 10 min video footage.
Bitch
Diaspora I need money, Otherwise what for these hell talks giving.
Prabkakaran showed me his red bird yesterday when I was alone with him last night in the bunker...wink wink ;-).
Sinhalaya modayas will never get to see our leaders red bird. It is so beautiful, especially when you rub some thala thel on it...
I feel the need for some more thalaivar jiuce...
MY BELOVED DIASPORA LADIES SOORY THESE DAYS
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The battle of bastonge was seen as the turning point in Hilters battle. Most saw germany's failure in overcomming the seige of the town. What most do not emphaise that the seige was not on the 101st Airbone which is an exceptional divison. The seige was on germany and it was facing the italian front, the western front and the eastern front. Likewise resentment in germany was turning against hitler.
Such a similar situation is turning out in Sri Lanka. I mean the general population has no love for the LTTE but it has no love for the war either. No parent however rich or poor wants their kids to die. You guys here own a PC and live luxuriously while people suffer.
Sometimes a JVP uprising should target the rich. The reason Patil resigned is because rich people were scared after being attacked. All the way before poor worthless indiands died. Of course the magnitude of the tradegy had also contributed.
However if gota gets killed mahindha will want revenge. If a gota from rural hamlet dies or loses his leg, then a 100 000 funeral and words like the triple gem bless him suffice. I mean how many generals have put the losses down. Hiding the losses is the most shameful thing Mahindha and Sarath are doing.
Its their neck which they want to save. They want to go round prading the victory yet hide the price that is paid for the victory.
Ever wonder why i repeately call for a page dedicated to soldiers like Corporal Gamini Kularatne even though my dearest friend in this blog Sam calls me a LTTE LOVER (i prefer that Sam) Its because people always forget them. I mean ya some will say we will never forget etc.
Its inevtable that Sri Lanka will lose its territory in the north and east as such a divide was set in 1948. The lines were darkened over the years.
Malaysia after kicking out Singapore had the believe that Singapore will collapse and beg to rejoin her. Malaysia is the largest oil palm producer and was once the largest rubber producer. Its a net oil exporter and has gas reserves yet its behind Singapore. It will be always behind Singapore.
In Sri Lanka can you get a passport in 10mins, can you buy a property/item without having fear the possibility that it is not as promised. Do you go to any goverment department and get things done efficently without paying a bribe.
Some ministers and MPs in Singapore are university Proffessors. Once in the university, i pointed to a sri lankan, a minister (no security)after he walked past. He was shocked. He said in Sri Lanka how they behave when they come. This negating the need for protection against the LTTE. As the drama and fanfare in sri lanka was always there.
rana,
mate, i checked your blogger ID!
i couldn't believe it at first.
UNFORTUNATELY wesa-pala has achieved his objective of splitting the patriots. i have been telling this for a very very long time.
mate, don't insult asithri just bcos you don't agree with him. i know he uses coulourful language, but he is like the rock of gibraltar when it comes to patriotism.
there was a time when he used filth against me when i used to SUSPECT everything defence.lk said and BITCHED about everything about the SLDFs.
but i don't mind being called ANYTHING by a patriot. i took it in my usual way!
mate, please, please understand. the BIGGEST asset is the UNITY of patriots. no matter HOW GOOD your intentions are, if you split the patriots, you cannot be one.
the SL problem is dragging too long bcos there is no unity among the patriots. even janaka is at fault.
come to the fold, mate.
NAVEENDRAN BRO
"Sinhalaya modayas will never get to see our leaders red bird. It is so beautiful, especially when you rub some thala thel on it...
I feel the need for some more thalaivar jiuce"
Well said my ammavuka brother
thank you
thyank you
You know our ammavuka leaders red birds are beautiful.I just doubt how you came to know that. Pottu ammanvuka told me as million times sure you wife and grandma, lived in brothels of our ammavuka leaders before they migrated. So they had told you how beauti our blood dreaded Redbirds. They for sure had put Thal thel and massage it.
Dont be jealous Naveendran just go to sex shop buy a black thunder dongas and put some thala thel and push it hard your whores.
What an infiltration!
Our leaders red bird will defeat the modaya chena boys. Just you wait and see. You will never get to taste our leaders thalaivar juice....
Sinhala modayas will never get to clean toilets in Singapore like us Tamils. We are the best toilet cleaners in the world.
New terminal at Changi airport still has some squat toilets, because superior tamilians prefer to squat. That is why the tiger is most dangerous when crouching/squating.
Haha you moda sinhalayas.
I asked Santa Claus to bring us Ealam this christmas!!
Now what are you going to do modayas?!? Can your moda chena boys stop Santa Claus?? If you try anything against Santa Claus, the USA will be on our side. Obama and Hillary will not tolerate an attack on Santa Claus. Just you wait and see...
Hey tigers are not bad.. They are like lambs.
malin,
mate, there is some BS in your post.
it doesn't matter whether you are an american, australian, indian or whatever. what matters is the commitment to SL.
SOME ppl living in SL are parasites living on the money of expatriats. so the money earners for the country also have a right to dictate terms.
janaka was an australian when he died.
gotabaya is an american. some ppl say even basil and SF are american too. anyway henry steel olcott was an american!!
so now it should be clear, those who love SL have a say (and a right to) what happens in SL.
there are bloggers here who have been in an army (it doesn't matter what country it was). they have insight into the war than others.
the other problem is when one is in a well, he cannot see the entirety. most SLs living in SL (as usual) want a QUICK solution. once a very senior SLA officer (easy to guess) confided in me that he is disappointed with the quick-fix attitude of some SLs.
this will NEVER work.
the solution must be a resolution, not a compromise between RIGHT and WRONG.
i agree that what matters now is HOW the problem ENDs not how it started. but it will not end until what started it is resolved and remain resolved.
agree?
Moshe,
I would blame the war news blackout for this split or sudden differences in opinions.
We will soon see this crack propagate throughout the Sri Lankan society.
Attitude towards war will change to "Why Fight? Lets Talk!"
Mariyakade, Kaatikuduppan,
I am a muslim, I love Sri Lanka I have no doubts about it and if required I will not think twice about dying for it. My parents taught me to be patriotic.
If you don't know enough about the Quran or Islam first learn before you go on a wild elephant rampage before making baseless statements. Only uneducated idiots talk like this. Please do not measure everyone by the same yard stick.
Its high time that we realized that it fucking doesn't matter whether we are Sinhala, Muslim or Tamil. What matters is we stand united for mother lanka, All the bastardly countries who conspired to divide us to hinder our progress are far ahead of us. Stupid fuckers like you only waste time talking about marginalizing people to provoke communal violence and hatred amongst people, if you think in this line, you (or for that matter anyone who talks about marginalization/violence against fellow citizens) cannot stand under our flag, because the four corners of the flag preaches
1. Metta - Kindness
2. Karuna - Friendliness
3. Muditha - Happiness
4. Upeksha - Equanimity
There is more to the flag if you seek to learn, it is one of the most meaningful flags a country has.
If you are a true Buddhist you would agree with me. Noble Buddha did not use weapons or words to defeat evil he used WISDOM. Please excuse me if you are a seventeen - eighteen year old young blood who hasn't seen real life for talking to you like this.
Mariyakade, Kaatikuduppan,
I am a muslim, I love Sri Lanka I have no doubts about it and if required I will not think twice about dying for it. My parents taught me to be patriotic.
If you don't know enough about the Quran or Islam first learn before you go on a wild elephant rampage before making baseless statements. Only uneducated idiots talk like this. Please do not measure everyone by the same yard stick.
Its high time that we realized that it fucking doesn't matter whether we are Sinhala, Muslim or Tamil. What matters is we stand united for mother lanka, All the bastardly countries who conspired to divide us to hinder our progress are far ahead of us. Stupid fuckers like you only waste time talking about marginalizing people to provoke communal violence and hatred amongst people, if you think in this line, you (or for that matter anyone who talks about marginalization/violence against fellow citizens) cannot stand under our flag, because the four corners of the flag preaches
1. Metta - Kindness
2. Karuna - Friendliness
3. Muditha - Happiness
4. Upeksha - Equanimity
There is more to the flag if you seek to learn, it is one of the most meaningful flags a country has.
If you are a true Buddhist you would agree with me. Noble Buddha did not use weapons or words to defeat evil he used WISDOM. Please excuse me if you are a seventeen - eighteen year old young blood who hasn't seen real life for talking to you like this.
bungu,
you are right.
the war fires must be kept burning until the war is over. i see the wrong battle plan as the reason.
we have gone TOO FAR away from the "no dying for our land; let them die for theirs" concept.
if we have this concept, there is no need to fear about casualties. ppl have been VERY accomodative of casualties. as long as LTTE casualties were higher, they didn't mind, so to speak.
for this to happen, we should start looking at HARVESTING methods immediately. then, these should be glorified over the media.
i also feel a sense of "stalemate" is slowly invading SL; first the ppl as it happened in 1999.
in 1999 first signs of stalemate hit the ppl FIRST, not the SLDFs. then it grew to a reverse by april 2000.
govt should take note of it.
Ok Arsath, I will give you the benefit of the doubt, you claim to stand under one flag. However, would you please mind answering the following questions:
1 - Why do ALL Sri Lankan Muslims support Pakistan over the Sri Lankan team in cricket matches. And why do they ALL wave the Pakistani flags and not our own?
2 - Why do Muslims descrecrate Buddhist temples and Bo trees in the Dematagoda area and complain about noise levels of pirith chanting whilst ignoring the Aazam noise?
3 - Why do Muslims not allow the butchers that sell pork to operate in Hunupitiya (Akbar Town).
The above may seem trivial to you, but its all part of the grand plan.
8.5 KM LONG A-9 HIGHWAY STRETCH UP TO PULIYANKULAM & ALAMPIL TOWN CAPTURED
http://www.army.lk/morenews.php?id=18695
Moshe Dyan
What I am saying is that people living in this country feel the need to stop this war, and get on with a new life, People who have migrated may love this country so so much but they left this country and went because they wanted a better life. (Isn’t that why they left) In fact I myself may think about migrating like so many of my friends. Like so many other people these days who have applied for migration to AUS UK US NZ why? Because quality of life has gone down in Sri Lanka.
May it be Tamils or Sinhalese; poor people are feeling this war. They are the ones who are paying for the war. I can say I am middle class but I feel this war from my pocket too. I don’t mind going through any hardship to protect this country but there should be an end to this war. I always fight against anybody who tries to say this war is worthless because we are fighting to stop this country from breaking in two. As a Sinhalese I may want to hold my head up say to LTTE supporter’s look here we beat the hell out of you. But as a normal citizen I want to this war to stop.
So when it comes to negotiation for peace just because we hold upper hand we should not put Tamil aspiration’s down. We should always consider why they fought and where we made mistakes in the past. And come up with something that pleases majority of both sides. Lately I saw some comments saying that we should not consider requirement of Tamils. That is wrong. We have to look at what they want, what we can give and offer something that gives hope for both Sinhalese Tamil and Muslims.
Puliyankulam and Alampil also gone...
Where is Santa Claus?
All I want for christmas is Peelam...
Navindran....
New terminal at Changi airport still has some squat toilets, because superior tamilians prefer to squat. That is why the tiger is most dangerous when crouching/squating.
Ha Ha Ha...that a good one....!!!
the name of the game -
MAJORITY RULES!
any ass who cannot accept that better take the next plane out.
this whole problem started due to RIDICULOUS TAMIL DEMANDS. 50 - 50 FOR 10%.
no tamil or muslim gets anything by demanding. that's the sure way of not getting anything.
also "PROBLEMS OF TAMILS". what are the exclusive problems of local tamils? that the sinhala don't learn tamil? ha ha ha!
tamils should learn sinhala. like they learn malay in malaysia. look how well behaved the tamils are in singapore & malaysia. like puppies. they learn french in france, english in england. german in germany etc. if they can't learn sinhala they should swim back to shit nadu & chat in tamil while shitting in street pavements. sinhala are the people who civilised tamils.
tamils still thrash their own dalits to death in universities & marry dogs.(ambedkar university & man marries dog - both videos on utube). if that's the way they treat their own so called low castes, what can the sinhala expect? more hackings to death? claymore? Tamils are way more viscious than we sinhala can ever imagine. they treat their own child soldiers & women like shit animals. specially peasants. sinhala would never ever do those acts.
so sinhala friends be careful about the whining of dying tigers. if the murderous LTTE were winning they would have been singing a different tune & on our necks baying for our blood.
does anybody know that the sinhala word "maravara" comes from the south indian maraiver caste who came to sri lanka & acted as mercinaries for sinhala kings?
while I theoretically agree with others on a heavenly life living in harmony with tamils, it'll never happen practically. we still don't seem to understand that this is a fight that's been going on for 2,500 years. blaming 1983 won't get us anywhere.
after the war we should get EVEN STRONGER as insurance. then we'll have the respect of everybody. otherwise we'll be dust. this time we were fucking lucky that prabha chose mahinda over ranil. prabha fucked hinslef unknowingly. if prabha survives next time he may choose ranil, or worse. (somebody like mangala) god forbid.
it's only a matter of time.
it's upto us the sinhala, to cut the crap & to decide whether we want to survive as a race or not.
Rana, brother,
I am replying to your post of
December 4, 2008 12:35 PM .
I come from a family that sheltered Tamil neighbors and protected their property for several months after the 1983 riots. This was a very common occurrence all over the Sinhala south. I have no animosity towards Tamil people, and have many Tamil friends who concur with and support my views.
However, I am totally opposed to the LTTE and any others who demonize the Sinhala people in their quest to demoralize and enervate the Sinhalese as a pre-requisite to dividing and destroying Sri Lanka. I remember only too well just a decade ago when the Sinhala people were brainwashed into believing that they are in fact demons, and should give up their motherland to expiate their imagined sins. The responsibility for this lies not only with the enemies of Sri Lanka, but also vast numbers of our own leaders who hoped to profit from that con-job. They went around convincing gullible villagers that in implementing affirmative action programs we had discriminated, that the 1983 riots were a reflection of some inherent racism in us, and that peace at any cost, including dividing the motherland, was the best thing to do.
My vision for the future of Sri Lanka is that of a land in which all of its people, irrespective of race, religion, language or wealth can enjoy equal rights and live harmoniously together. To that end, I oppose all attempts, overt and covert, peaceful and violent, to undermine Sri Lanka's unity and security, and reject all attempts to embed ethnic divisions in the governing framework of Sri Lanka.
Born in 1948, the year of Sri Lanka's independence, I am probably much older than most of you patriots; nonetheless the patriotic flame burns just as brightly in my breast as in yours. In the 1983 riots, I too witnessed the violence inflicted against Tamil people, and read of the similar violence against the Sinhala people in Tamil areas. As you all know, this riot was triggered by the killing of 13 soldiers, but many of you don't know that nearly 4 years of hit-and-run raids against Sinhala people and government officials preceded it. It was done deliberately to provoke this kind of violent reaction, so that the Tamil community could be weaned away from the Sinhala people and from loyalty to Sri Lanka, and the Sinhala people demonized for it. I do not condone any violence against innocent civilians, but you have to understand that people are imperfect and the pot does boil over after repeated prodding. Those who keep abreast of racial, religious and caste violence in India, know that the fuse is much shorter there and the events much more frequent. Whereas the reasons for communal violence in India are many, in Sri Lanka it is invariably related to threats to the integrity of the country. This is the red flag to the Sinhala bull. While communal violence for any reason cannot be excused, I cannot equate that to racism or genocide in the case of the 1983 riots: those who deliberately set fires should expect to be burnt; even innocents.
I also distinguish the violence of this LTTE engineered communal riot from the largely manufactured charges of systematic discrimination and racism that Tamil separatists level against the Sinhala people. These charges form the pretextual basis for demanding a separate state. I have written at length in this blog as to why some of the affirmative action programs instituted by the GOSL were necessary to uplift those segments of the population historically disenfranchised under British Colonial policies, (and continued under the pre-Bandaranaike UNP governments), that privileged segments of the society lose ground when they are enacted, but that they are necessary in countries breaking free of colonialism. Recognizing the need to uplift Scheduled Castes, Tribal Castes and Other Backward Castes, India has instituted affirmative programs; so much so that one Indian Supreme Court judge stated that "in no other country in the world do communities struggle so hard to be degraded in solcial status to gain access to government benefits"! Therefore, it puzzles me why Indians object to affirmative action in Sri Lanka, and consider it to be dricrimination inflicted on the Tamils. Those policies in Sri Lanka laid the foundation for the high level of social equity we enjoy in Sri Lanka today in stark contrast to India, and has yielded high literacy, equitable labor laws, decent heathcare, cheap transportation, rural electrification, housing and widespread land ownership. This wave of enlightened policies lifted the boats of all needy people, irrespective of whether they were Sinhala, Tamil or Muslim. Some Tamils only see this as discrimination, and loss of priveleges they enjoyed under British Colonial rule, but ignore the benefits that have accrued to all needy people including their own.
It is this view that I reject in its entirety, for had we not done so, Sri Lanka would remain the cauldron of illiteracy, intolerance and violence that is India today. If India and Tamil Nadu thad not been pitted the Tamils against the Sinhala people, today Sri Lanka would have joined South Korea, Taiwan, Singapore and Hong Kong as an engine of economic growth.
Given that India and Sri Lanka attained independence at about the same time, ask yourself why Sri Lanka has progressed further than India towards social equity. The answer is that the Sinhala Buddhist majority community of Sri Lanka, unlike caste-ridden, religiously backward majority of India, was progressive and actively implemented enlightened laws to uplift all of its people. In every country, it is the politically dominant majority community that sets the agenda for social progress. If that community is backward and feudal in outlook, progress will suffer. Do you see discrimination on the basis of caste among the Sihalese? Yet, in Tamil Nadu caste-discrimination is endemic. Do you see Brahmins burning themselves in the streets of Colombo to deny government mandated benefits to poorer people? Do you see women denied benefits and education that men enjoy in Sri Lanka? In Sri Lanka the literacy of men and women is high and about equal; yet in India the literacy is low, and women are only half as literate as men.
I attended school and university in Sri Lanka; I did not see any discrimination between Tamils and Sinhala people, or between the rich and the poor. What I did hear of was that the lower caste people among the Tamils could not get access to the Brahmin run Hindu temples. I worked as a university lecturer and a government engineer; but nowhere did I see discrimination against Tamils. If the Tamils of Sri Lanka go to Tamil Nadu to live, they will experience what real discrimination is. So where was this discrimination by the Sinhala people against the Tamils? In fact, it is misrepresentation of an affirmative action program for university admission, built up from a molehill into a veritable mountain, and posed as intolerable discrimination that threatens the very survival of Tamil community of Sri Lanka. Lies...all Lies, manufactured to justify wholesale land grab in the eyes of the world! A land grab enabled by military and political support from Tamil Nadu and India.
My appeal to patriots here is not to buy into the allegation that Sinhalese have inflicted intolerable discrimination on Tamils. People who initiate violence must expect retaliation, however regrettable and misdirected against innocents that may be. It is not institutionalized racism, or genocide. Do not dwell on the tress and miss seeing the forest.
Mariyakade,
Here are the logical answers to your illogical questions
1 - Why do ALL Sri Lankan Muslims support Pakistan over the Sri Lankan team in cricket matches. And why do they ALL wave the Pakistani flags and not our own?
Answer: I do not know of a cricket ground that can accommodate all the Muslims in Sri Lanka, did you know that some of the Sri Lankan flags in these cricket matches were actually held by muslims!!
2 - Why do Muslims descrecrate Buddhist temples and Bo trees in the Dematagoda area and complain about noise levels of pirith chanting whilst ignoring the Aazam noise?
Answer:Please give me the reference for all these incidents, these are completely baseless bullshit. I used to live in Dematagoda, right next to Ali Denna Pansala. The lokuhamuduruwo knows me if you want to verify.
3 - Why do Muslims not allow the butchers that sell pork to operate in Hunupitiya (Akbar Town).
Answer:Why not SOME (I said SOME) buddhist do not allow to sell any meat at all? Thats there faith is not it.. So at certain times we have to honor each others practices and religion and compromise for each other at times. But I know these allegations are nothing but baseless.
Malli now I am convinced that you are nothing but a podi eka.. Malli.. these differences are always there in any country with multiple ethnicities that doesn't mean we fucking take arms against each other for every trivial thing or even suggest. We had enough of this fucking shit..
Part of the PLAN is only your fucking conspiracy theory.. I can tell you this.. no man wants anything more than good shelter, good food, and some people to love.
I consider Sri Lanka is mine, as much as it is yours. I live abroad because of this I understand the value of my country.. Stupid fuckers who live in Sri Lanka don't understand that they are siting on a gem.
I want you to sit back and think of this.
A mother cannot be more motherly towards some of her sons than the others she treats everyone equally.
By The Way you sound like you are from a particular political party.. Malli don't dishonor all the efforts and sacrifices made by our brave soldiers in the battle front, I believe they are not just fighting for Sinhalese, but for the entire nation.
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malin,
got a point there.
the way the war ends is most important. it cannot be a surrender and it cannot be a compromise between what is good for SL and what is good for TE.
a compromise is only possible between 2 good things (of different levels) or two bad things of different levels.
i know ppl in SL are FED UP of this VERY LONG military campaign. but it must be ended.
it is like curing cancer. some patients quit treatment b4 it is 100% cure. they are doomed. sometimes when treating cancer a body part may be removed. so be it.
similarly if we are to resolve this problem, we cannot entertain seperatism (that IS the problem).
but if seperatism is not allowed, most tamil politicians are not going to like it.
the solution is not "controlled seperatism". that only breeds further seperatism. the (political)solution is the official denial of seperatism.
it is going to be VERY hard on most tamils, but there is no other way. but soon they will realise that it was for their own good.
there are silent tamils who want a unitary SL where everyone lives with dignity. but their voices are unheard/suppressed. the grievances claims are very lucrative and they too can eventually get sucked in.
frustrate seperatism and there will not be further seperatism.
friends,
please don't fight with tamil and muslim patriots.
SL belongs to them too.
in my humble opinion, the GREATEST SL war hero was fazly latheef, a muslim.
All Patriots,
"please don't fight with tamil and muslim patriots.
SL belongs to them too.
in my humble opinion, the GREATEST SL war hero was fazly latheef, a muslim."
I agree with Moshe. We need to strengthen the Sri Lankan identity today more than ever. We all are proud of our heritage. However, it does not mean that the other's heritage is any less than ours. After all, we all are born in this land to be equal share holders of the country. Nothing less nothing more. Lets take a moment to remember the great LRRP patriots of all three communities who were exposed by the Sinhala basterd Kulasiri Udugampola and his political bosses and killed by LTTE. Once this is over, we need to bring these bastards to justice for the crimes they committed against the brave men of LRRP, specially the Tamil and Muslim heroes. As far as my self is concerned, I don't mind administering the traditional traitor's punishment to these bastards at a public square.
Arsath,
I am glad you have this viewpoint, but the problem is your viewpoint is not not shared by your brothers and sisters, in fact your are in a minority, I wish your brothers and sisters think like you, but the problem is they don't.
I have lived amongst Muslims both in Sri Lanka and in the Middle East. My earliest experiences were how warm and welcoming your community was, I used to play with mostly Muslim kids, and whenever I go to their houses (especially after Friday prayers), their mothers would feed me the most delicious food no matter what time of day it was. They were the most welcoming and hospitable people I ever knew. Then immigration to the Middle East began in the 70s, this where the problems started. They went to the Middle East and came back radicalized, the bloody Arabs had ingrained in them a superiority complex. Playmates who we once treated as brothers didn't even acknowledge us when they came back and they pretended that they were of a superior race, and we were humble minions. Girls who wore the Sari or Shalwar Khamiz started wearing Burqas, boys who once wore sarongs started wearing thobes, they pretended to be Arabs and excluded us and got into their ghettos, we were becoming strangers in our own land. Then I went to the Middle East and found the root cause, I say no further as you can probably guess what I would have seen.
No machan, I am not a podi kollek, I probably have more experience than you. I think you don't want to accept the changes that your community has gone through.
We need more patriots like you from your community, problem is they are hard to find and becoming increasingly rarer.
Moshe, I haven't forgotten, nor ever will forget the sacrifices made by the likes of Lafir and Nizaam.
Totally agree with moshe ..
Fighting with muslims or Tamils who believe in the concept of Sri Lanka is pointless . I dont care if they support pakistan on england in cricket matches and noise issues should be solved by municipality councils not war .
Weather Kaati likes it or not there were muslims domiciled in Jaffna and the north before they were chased out . They should be allowed to return . That is not an attempt to change the demographics at all . and personally I think changing of demographics is not a bad thing (i.e if the north was not mono ethnic it will be nearly impossible to start a war of this nature) IMO every race should live everywhere . (if you look at singapore this is a very conscious policy LKW pursued and has worked)
I am not suggesting social engineering like singapore but it is a goal we should all aspire to .
Very soon, we have to rename Mulathivu as Fazly Lafir City to honor this hero.
That said ..
We should keep tabs on wahabisum or jihadisum raising its ugly head in Sri Lanka . I consider this no different to keeping tabs on the JVP in the sinhala community or the LTTE in the Tamil community
I would like to promote a fight between "potato" aka rana vs assithiri aka pettykfir in a welterweights class. Only the TKO will decide the outcome of this fight and won't be any anonymous decisions from any biased panel which consists of mainly self-proclaimed defence analysts, patriots etc.
--cheers---
Ali,
Easier said that done, remember Jihadists and Wahabists have the support of Saudi Arabia, both monetarily and logistically.
I have heard that there are Sri Lankan Muslim youth fighting for the Al Qaeda and Taleban, I wish they fight for SLDF instead. That said, even now, lot of our intelligence corps are Muslims.
Still one mile from Killinochchi?
Modayas,
see hoe we have reloacted, Alampil & Puliyankulam to ...)).
now wait you Modayas®, we will do the same for Killinochchi also.
Modayas® are always Modayas®
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sinhala have only ONE LAND. tamils don't have the guts to fight for shit nadu – Their real homeland & seperation. So as a quick fix to their lack of guts to claim their real homeland they write BS history & archaelogy trying to prove their existense in SL without a shred of evidence.
If a boat load of invaders (from bengal, orissa or wherever) could come & take over an entire chola kingdom, that kingdom must have been on treetops run by monkeys. ha ha ha!
so who the fucks wants to split hairs by arguing about etchings or prehistoric dog shit buried in urns? It's like arguing about the origin of the chicken & egg. The irefutable fact is that the sinhala have ruled & defended SL for over 2,500 years. With massive monuments & evidence to back our claims. Nobody can even come even remotely close to our evidence. Type “sri lanka UN world heritage sites” on the web & check the facts. The dutch have a few monuments. Tamils have none. So much for the tamil homeland concept.
It’s very easy to say tamil monuments were small therefore insignificant & now lost. (like prabha's dick) ha ha ha!
sinhala have always been outnumbered by tamils 6-1. therefore ours is one of the greatest survival stories in the history of civilization.
If we leave our future in the hands of the likes of Dr. Jayalath Jyawardena (the tamil doc who’s in sinhala disguise) we’re bound to be fucked. The danger these traitors pose to SL is that they are intelligent & qualified. It’s like the dumb rogue who robbed the side mirror of a vehicle & ran. Along came the brainy crook who opened the door with a metal piece, got in, tampered with a few wires, started the vehicle & drove away!
The intelligent crook/ traitor does more damage cos they’re very subtle in their modus operandi.
I know for an absolute fact that jayalath was one of the pioneers of the UNP’s “border village” concept. He went around supplying sirens to the sinhala so called border villages so that they could sound them & run away when the LTTE attacks. Later it was exposed that at the same time UNP has supplied weapons to the LTTE. For god’s sakes! When the LTTE attacks the sinhala border villagers (with UNP weapons), they can run with sirens (UNP supplied) wailing. That’s one hell of a master plan hatched by master traitors to rid the north east of sinhala & muslims.
Where are the borders & border villages today?
Do we leave our future in the hands of these traitors? Or the likes of mahinda, gotabhaya & sarath?.
Vellu,
You took the words out of my mouth mate, nice one!
the danger of religious based society is that people of different backgrounds start INTERPRETING the religious scripts THE WAY THEY THINK IS RIGHT. then they'll start telling their followers how & when to go out, where & how to go, what to dress, drink,eat etc. The list will start growing. soon it'll be an endless list of demands with society becoming a loony bin. everybody wearing the same clothes will make us look like an ant colony. the entire garment industry & fashion industry will crash creating job losses & depression. Who’ll wants to look smart?
in afghanistan all women were barred from education by religious fanatics. Colombo muslims may say "that's wrong, but we're right, we only ask our women to cover themselves, they can learn & drive SUV’s, while we can dress in western attire & do business with western countries". but another priest from puttalama may say “ what? Who said so? Everybody including males must dress like the scriptures say” and start quoting a sentence of the scripts. but then who's REALLY right & wrong? the answer is both parties think they're right. both don’t give in. it can lead to added & totally unnecessary violence in a world already torn apart by race. Hitler killed 6 million because he hated jews & thought germans were superior. If he hated catholics or the pope millions of Italians would have been done. It all depends on how kinky & fanatical the ruler is. Look at prabha the self proclaimed sungod living underground. I doubt whether he has even seen the sun or daylight for the past year. Ha ha ha!
Galileo (the pioneer of the telescope & father of modern astronomy) was poisoned to death & buried like a pauper by the church for proving that the earth was not the centre of the universe a couple of hundred years ago. About 20 years ago he was exhumed & given a proper church burial BY THE SAME CHURCH. An earlier astronomer called Copernicus was spied upon heavily by the church but left alone since he said that the earth was the centre of the universe. Dead wrong but suited the pope. So religious establishments run by ordinary humans have acted like god when & where they please. And if given half a chance they’ll do it all over again. First they condemned & killed Galileo like a criminal. Two hundred years later exhumed the skeleton & give it a hero’s burial. It’s so simple it’s almost like child’s play. These priests who act god cannot even walk on water. Just like you & me. This is the danger of having fanatics & dictators who rule by scriptures & fixed theories (that are open to interpretation) & not by common sense & elections.
I am sure ALL religions must have done up creative people like Galileo in their own crazy way. It just happens so that the western ones got publicity & the others went unnoticed or got less publicity. The world would have been a much better place if thousands of brilliant people like Galileo were not persecuted by senseless rulers.(religious or otherwise).
The real plot is that these fanatical rulers crush any opposition by punishing them in kangaroo courts set up by themselves. That’s the real motive. these rulers want their gullible people to fall in line so that they can control vast amounts of money & power without being questioned. more unquestioning followers = more power & money at the expense of the followers.
bottom line = no elections. why? answer - Our people are religious, well behaved & happy, therefore we don need any elections. In fact we don't need anything apart from loyalty. no fashion, art, music, no nothing. BTW don't question us about how we spend the national budget which belongs to all of us. How our wives & children spend & live is none of anybody’s business.
Make suckers out of the followers & keep eternal power. Nice gravy train.
OVER 200 SRI LANKAN ARMY SOLDIERS DIED TO CAPTURE POONAHARI.
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CAPTURE OF POONAHARI AND THE HIGH COST OF CASUALTY
ACCORDING TO THE FORMER FOREIGN MINISTER MANGALA SAMARAWEERA THE SRI LANKAN ARMY SUFFERED OVER 300 CASUALTIES.
200 DEAD BODIES WERE BROUGHT TO COLOMBO AND KEPT AT 2 FUNERAL PARLOURS.
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OVER 1000 SOLDIERS SUFFERED SERIOUS INJURIES AND WARDED AT NATIONAL HOSPITALS.
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