Monday, February 9, 2009

Death toll rises to 24 SLA KIA in IDP camp attack-updated

The death-toll in the suicide attack inside the IDP camp today has risen to 32, which includes 24 Sri Lanka Army personnel and eight civilians. 42 civilians were also wounded in the attack. The attack occurred when officers and men attached to the military garrison dedicated to assisting returning civilians was preparing to serve a fresh meal to the civilians. A small Tamil child was also killed in the incident.

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Lalith Kuruwita said...

{{{ Veeran said...
He should make sure all LTTE carders dead

Already 15000 tigers Dead as per ur Lie.lk for lsat two years.

only 500 left keeping at bay 50000 SLA.

are they having super power ?}}}

The truth is LTTP is holding up Civillians by force, otherwise the war would have finished few weeks ago.

B#1 said...

Pandula said

[SLA should ask tamil civilians to screen their own people]

This is the best way i think and they might have already adopted this method. Tamil civilians are the best weapon that we should use against LTTE.

Lalith Kuruwita said...

{{{Veeran said...
I think we should try and get a PR for Veeran, which will ease his tension

I want not a Fucking thing persoally for me.
Give everything what we started to agitate peacefully for.

}}}

You mean you need to get PR in Canada for all Peelamist in SL.

That is the best. Then we will have only non Peelamist tamils in SL.

Peter said...

As long as 1 soldier dies does it really matter how many civilians get caught up?

Peter said...

LTTE said it wasnt safe to leave, they left and LTTE was right.

Yam said...

DW we need some regular updates as things change rapidly

Peter said...

If you want to cross over to moda Banda side they deserve to be treated as such.

Peter said...

I sometimes visit columbo but there's a large tamil population. I dont like rubbing shoulders with Chenna boys.

Lalith Kuruwita said...

Hi Peter

How is the parking? Good ??

Is it tight or loose?

IS it still i KM to KILLI?

velluprabhakaran said...

peter's already contacted BOI sri lanka to open the proposed ex -malathi brigade strip tease night club in mullathivu.

he came to finalize the deal

ha ha ha!

gladiator said...

Peter,

''I dont like rubbing shoulders with Chenna boys.''

Well u have to get used to it pete coz chena boys gonna be everywere in ur plam

Peter said...

Fakes are hounding me

Peter said...

Does anyone have contact with David?

I want to meet him.

Peter said...

Laltih,

I'll let you know tomorrow.

Good to see that good old Western culture rubbing onto the office workers here.

velluprabhakaran said...

[[[Ever know of two sons of Thalaivar Charles & Balachandran who are in the midst of the action unlike ur Hampanthota Buffalo son ?]]]

sakkiliyas Thalaivar Charles & Balachandran are busy inside mullathivu bunkers fucking the sakkily malathi brigade sluts like rabbits.

ha ha ha!

velluprabhakaran said...

the west has started deporting the first bogus peelam refugees.

peter's first. he's already in colombo & stranded with nowhere to go.

ha ha ha!

kavee said...

Quote from India Post;

Prabhakaran is on the run like a hunted warthog and the LTTE is holed up in a tiny area using the local civilian population as human shields. Like all wars this too has taken its toll on the civilian population and the Tamils need to understand that it's the LTTE that brought this upon them and not the SLA or the SL Govt.As for the support by the political parties in Tamil Nadu and the Tamils in India, they need to understand that this is an internal matter of Sri Lanka. Every country has the right to defend and protect its unity and integrity…and Sri Lanka is doing all it takes to prevent the North from secession.

Link http://indiapost.com/article/communitypost/5487/

Peter said...

velluprabhakaran said...

the west has started deporting the first bogus peelam refugees.

peter's first. he's already in colombo & stranded with nowhere to go.

ha ha ha!

----------

Lol

You just can't believe that anyone would travel to Colombo by choice.

It does stink. But what to do.

Peter said...

Someone once described India as the "Sh~t stain" on his pricey globe.

velluprabhakaran said...

peter,

suddenly colombo stinks of thala thel today. wonder why?

ha ha ha!

onceinawhile said...

vajira, dodo, duzz, rocky, puran, mates any news? any at all????

Peter said...

In Tamil we have a saying:

கழுதைக்கு தெரியுமா கற்பூர வாசனைன்னு

That goes for your thala thel comment.

Peter said...

Can you recommend anywhere nice for dinner?

Unknown said...

peter try ammbakissa

DrJones said...

"the rajapakse govt. cannot fool all the people all the time. by playing patriot marching bands and army commercials, you fools think your military is actually making progress ?"

Is our military making progress?

IS OUR MILITARY MAKING PROGRESS?

Buhahaha.

You will be surprised that there still are fools who support LTTE terrorists - yes, that includes dimwits like you - who STILL BELIEVE the LTTE is still in control of the north and the east.

DrJones said...

Peter, if still undecided where to go for dinner, try "Beach Wadiya" in Wellawatte. It used to be nice.

Unknown said...

Dr Jhons,

"the rajapakse govt. cannot fool all the people all the time. by playing patriot marching bands and army commercials, you fools think your military is actually making progress ?"

Where is this from?

Unknown said...

sorry DrJones. Misspelled ur name

velluprabhakaran said...

peter,

can't understand tamil. so u own the comment. i don want it. no buyers.

ha ha ha!

DrJones said...

Veeran,
"I want not a Fucking thing persoally for me.
Give everything what we started to agitate peacefully for."

(Yes, you started peacefully before getting violent)

Read, as you do not seem to get the message that is so clear.

You will get fuck-all from us. if you need a separate state, fuck the hell off to Tamilnadu where your ancestors came from. After all it has 60 million of your people there (they fucking stink but you will appreciate it is a different matter), another few hundred thousand terrorist supporters in to Tamilnadu is not the end of the world for them (TN).
You already have your bleedin seperate state there.

The ones who think they are Sri Lankans before anything else, are free to stay. The rest, yes it includes you, could jump in to the sea and die for all we care. That is likely your option anyway in the coming weeks when your brothers lose all their MEN, their FUGLY women and our LAND.
Eelam? Sweet dreams!

Oh, also - Good luck with your visa status as an asylum seeker.

velluprabhakaran said...

tamil dieasspora children are now being shown how to lose by peelamists.

when are u gonna teach them how to win?

3,000 AD? ha ha ha!

DrJones said...

"only 500 left keeping at bay 50000 SLA.

If the LTTE fuckers are oh-so-brave and battle-hardened to keep 50k SLA "AT BAY" (Whoo hoo!) then let them release the civilians kept hostage. Then, within 24 hours you will get to see who's the daddy.

Peter said...

Jones,

Love Beach Wadiya but a bit far from Wellewatte and wouldn't want to bump into anyone I know either.

Any similar but meat-joint closer to Maligawatte?

gladiator said...

Pete
Ambakissa is the best

boyrocky said...

onceinawhile macho,

didnt get to know any highlighted activities during the day. the intensity of the fighting in the puthu area reduced a little bit after SLA experienced a large chunk of civilian influx today at the FDL. TF4 troops are only 500m away from the city.

the interesting topic today was the fact that a couple of indonesian 'pirates' were caught by the SLN around the peduruthuduwa area. everyone fails to understand how and from where they got into the water. they were said to be engaged in the submarine activities and believe that they must have fled from chalai when the fighting began. (problem is how did they escape the SLN defence line around Mula?) The story the indonesian people say is not possible to believe. What they say is that some terras threatened them to take them to India but it cant be true.

DrJones said...

Osza,
That's what veeran earlier said, about 60-70 comments earlier.

Unknown said...

Ok. Thanks. Guess I missed it. Usually don't read the bugger's comments.

DrJones said...

Peter,
Maligawatte - try Buhari
Or Bake House near Townhall - Deans Road
There is also a new joint in Nawala, called "Peninsula" serving Jaffna cuisine (so they say). I recommend though.

onceinawhile said...

Rocky,

Thanks mate. Thats something..

Peter said...

Thanks,

Buhari sounds good. Sure Muslims would sell some spiced authentic biriyani.

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kavee said...

For all food lover's interest,

A list of food outlets in Sri Lanka

Peter said...

I know a lot about muslim girls, once one tried to convert me.

Peter said...

But I put my faith in what you called elephant god and lion god a long time ago. We dont change that easily.

Peter said...

That reminds me today's offering of fruits, vege's didnt do it for me. Back in 10 mins.

NOLTTE=Peace said...

A great news heard today. Our beloved Paul Harris will be heading back to Sri Lanka.

Paul Harris is one of the rare personalities with a great wisdom who exactly understood what LTTE is and its motives that a PWP like Ranil could not understand.

During his posting in Sri Lanka, Paul did a millions of dollars worth yeoman service to Sri Lanka without any cost to her.

This is a person with a great love and affection for Sri Lanka, as no other Brit did this kind of service.

These are the exact kind of persons who should get Knighted by the Queen - the Brits who bring respect to Britain.

Sri Lanka should give him an honorary Citizenship as well as one of the Honorary Titles and honor him for his service at least.

Here again, listen to one of his speeches,

(Sir) Paul Harris

NOLTTE=Peace said...

Army.lk says,


Troops of the 8 SLLI (Sri Lanka Light Infantry) commanded by Lieutenant Colonel IPSITHA DISSANAYAKE successfully facing the LTTE resistance for two days moved southwards from the A-35 road and captured the KURAVILKULAM intersection from where a few roads branch out to different directions.
This area is the main LTTE stronghold to the immediate west of PUTHUKUDIYIRIPPU.

One container full of MPMG (Multi Purpose Machine Gun) and T-56 ammunition was also recovered by the troops from the area.


I love to see a Video of this ammo container.

Nisal said...

57 Division Troops Capture KURAVILKULAM Junction


Theravilkulam surrounded??

Nisal said...

One container full of MPMG (Multi Purpose Machine Gun) and T-56 ammunition was also recovered by the troops from the area.

Thanks diaspora for sending more and more ammunition.

sjinadasa said...

What do we actually do with captured arms and ammunition ? I don't suppose we use the arms, but where do they end up in ?

Unknown said...

Here is the video of One container full of MPMG (Multi Purpose Machine Gun) and T-56 ammunition

http://vimeo.com/3160138

Unknown said...

http://www.vimeo.com/3160138

NOLTTE=Peace said...

LTTE is shelling the safety zone.

This is their last ditch to get international attention.

SLAF should capture LTTE shelling on video and expose the barbarians!

sanercomic said...

http://sanercomic.blogspot.com

NOLTTE=Peace said...

SLBC should ask Nigel to shove his $200K up in his rear and f&ck off from Sri Lanka!

GOSL should not allow these f&cksters to abuse Sri Lankan airwaves to continue LTTE propaganda!

Unknown said...

Guys

What is this ICRC ferry struggling, to take sick or VP. may be VP chartered this ferry. see how good red cross is.

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Anonymous said...

@ senthu video

This shows that this PTK attack was expected to be like unceasing wave type - turning point attack. Previous such attacks were also video recorded and distrubuted among diASSpora for fund raising. LTTE used their maximum strength undoubtedly. Fall of Challai easily at the same time without immediate counter attacks as they do usually, explains. They have only 5 bodies and tractor with some bags - that's all they have to show diASSpora this time. No captured MBRLs. As diASSpora can think any thing as in the bags, assuming it to be full of LMPGs is ok. Anyway, arms and ammo is not the problem for LTTE. Problem is where to stand (land shrinking) and who will carry the arms (cadres dying). The much waited final LTTE counter attack happened and couldn't reverse any thing - a complete failure.

Peter said...

My Dear Diaspora

we can kill more more Innocent civilians than we killed so far..

to kill all the civilian we need more money and more ammunition. so now we need some money to kill the people.

some time he/she may be your relation. sometime not...

but the thing is when they become uncontrollable stage we have to kill them to win our freedom. its not our 100%. its your, you are the one who help us. so then you can come and settle here.

please my diaspora this is the time to help us. we will kill all civilians. if you have any relation please give us a list. then we can use soft weapon like light machinegun.

we dont kill children purposely. but when they cry we have to shut their mouth. so cant help. we dont kill them, but using light machine gun we randomly fire. but unfortunately they (children) come to target. this is not our fault. this is the fault with machine gun you sent us. next time send us good gun. then we can target adult.

Puran Appu said...

Guys,

Nothing much from the fronts than
The news that our guys have slowed down a bit for the civilians to flee. Still plenty of Civilians to come.In the Mean time Snipers are doing the hunting in a big way along with limited, careful offensives. More attention is paid to make the defenses strong too and additional troops are called in.

LTTE is making desperate attempts to break the SLA defences, all ends in debacles for the LTTE. It said that many LTTE bodies are shattered all over and arms are recovered in big numbers than never before.

Most of Our guys are less than 500m s' away from PTK. We were beaten back in PTK, few days back but our guys have taken back the loss ground. TF 2,3 & 4 are almost at A35.

There will be a big Final push from all fronts very soon. Many experienced officers of the 57 is with 59 to assist 59.

Guys any news from 55????

Anonymous said...

the 55th is bogged down south of Challai,because the single road leading to the south is mined! Everything is shit and hard work,we will not be able to defeat the LTTE in February,my new guess is march

NOLTTE=Peace said...

My guess is, we would reach April when we take the last rat out of remaining areas, as we have to fight many battles avoiding civilian casualties.

June 30th is a nice date to aim for declaring all clean, after de-mining major areas.

My worry is, still LTTE can walk from safe zone to Vavunia on foot, bypassing all the units.

One of the most recently captured LTTE suicide cadre has done exactly that.

Unknown said...

"We were beaten back in PTK, few days back but our guys have taken back the loss ground. TF 2,3 & 4 are almost at A35."

it was not actually beaten back.. the tactic was to thin out the FDL to the sides. it worked well. Terras came at full force and met with low resistance 592 and 593 flanked them and hunted em down. with the 2 commando brigades at the back.

counter attack came at sunday. we were back to 500m from PTK junction and builtup by midday monday.

Anonymous said...

Puran

See LR. 55 will not advance south until 58 do so.

perein said...

cj,
Does not matter Feb or March. Good thing is we will be wiping out the LTTE terror from mother Lanka soon.

Anonymous said...

/
My worry is, still LTTE can walk from safe zone to Vavunia on foot, bypassing all the units./

This is unavoidable. No way to stop a single person doing that. But should be able to stop 100 doing that.

@ Finishing Date - Let SLA decide.

Unknown said...

cj,

55th has actually slowed down. not bogged up. because the 58th brigade which covers their left flank cannot move down southwards in the main land near to the west band of the lagoon. advancing in a narrow patch of land is never a good idea. And there is always the safe zone obstacle.

591 snipers and armor are softening up the defenses north of mullaitivu.

Peter said...

CJ we need to kill civilians before SLA.

as you said we actually tactically withdrew from chelai.

CJ can you ask more money from our donkey diaspore to fund us for killing tamil people.

then we would be the only Tamil who run our country (Tamil elam) when the number is less its easy to manage.

Unknown said...

Finish Date : April 01





















































































































































2051

Anonymous said...

why is the 58th not able to advance southwards? yesterday they captured Sugandipuram

Unknown said...

its mainly because of the safe zone. And if they do they will have to keep on a very narrow front. that tactic was proved unsuccessful when operation Riviresa failed.

Anonymous said...

i shit on this stupid safe zone.it´s all a political farce. It´s time for our troops to launch a final major offensive to storm the remaining LTTE-lands. Can´t hear this double-morale any longer,no one cares about the civilians,neither our army nor the LTTE. this is business as usual in a war. When the war will be over,the civilian suffering will be over,so we should finish off the LTTE with a major offensive on all fronts now!!!!!!!!

Anonymous said...

duzz,sooner or later we have to storm this strange safe zone.why waiting? encircling this zone is a stupid idea,we should push the LTTE into the corner,into the coastline. This Safe zone is an unnecessary barrier for our troops. If we storm this zone,we will safe more lives than in the actual artillery-mess from both sides

NOLTTE=Peace said...

CJ,

Can´t hear this double-morale any longer,no one cares about the civilians,neither our army nor the LTTE.

No, we do care, but the LTTE!

Army has been "well-instructed" from the very top to making sure that we adhere to zero civilian casualties. The generals are putting heaps of efforts on Zero Civilian Casualty Policy when making battle-plans.

Puran Appu said...

duzz, cj, Ninja,

Thank U for responding guys.

Lets see. BIG DAY is not that far away. It's the matter of time now.

LONG LIVE OUR HERO'S.

By the way, get ready for the general elections some where in July/ August.

LONG LIVE MAHINDA. LONG LIVE GOTA. LONG LIVE OUR Gen. Fonseka.

Brave1 said...

Mathangi "Maya" Arulpragasam was born in Hounslow, London, the daughter of Kala and Arul Pragasam. Her family is of Tamil descent.

http://indiapost.com/article/communitypost/5487/

Man this bitch MIA was saying she was born in SL....while this articles she is born in UK...

What a slut she is....she can say lie like...breathing...

Puran Appu said...

cj,

Safe zone is not an unnecessary barrier. It was created for a purpose and we are getting it's dividends now.

NOLTTE=Peace said...

CJ,

We have not fired a 'Single Artillery" towards the safe zone!

It is the LTTE who have fired into the Safe Zone to discredit the Army.

Our artillery guns can be fired to the nearest 30 feet on any given occasion.

We use high-quality munitions (unlike LTTE's home made or black-market munitions), and they fire accurately.

GOSL has nothing to gain with firing at civilians.

But for LTTE, lot to gain from discretely firing at the safe zone.

Puran Appu said...

cj,

Our guys will storm in to the safe zone at the correct time. Lets leave it to them.

NOLTTE=Peace said...

CJ,

What happened to your earlier handle "Renegade"? Did someone steal it.

You first came as Rifard. Then change the handle to Renegade, and now CJ.

Rifard > Renegade > CJ

Vanni Tamil said...

Guys,
I dont usualy watch this things but when I was looking at the video
at http://vimeo.com/3160138

unlike Sarath fonseka'a claim, in this vedio itself there are more than 500 LTTE.. So whats happening there

Peter said...

I was expecting more war euphoria in Colombo.

Peter said...

No one seems to be excited.

Peter said...

CJ we need to kill civilians before SLA.

as you said we actually tactically withdrew from chelai.

CJ can you ask more money from our donkey diaspore to fund us for killing tamil people.

then we would be the only Tamil who run our country (Tamil elam) when the number is less its easy to manage.

Peter said...

Perhaps I am not expected to the right people.

Puran Appu said...

Latest estimate is that, there is around 700 Hard Core Carders. This is excluding the new recruits. Still there is some hunting to do.

When the hunting is going on, we will see the remaining, deserting the outfit and surrendering.

Peter said...

Is fake on here 24/7?

Peter said...

That video looks like clearing ops

Peter said...

Fighting is far more gruesome than that.

Anonymous said...

NoLTTE,
Renegade! and rifard are the same. CJ also sounds same.

Peter said...

hey there is a fake peter.. his profile id is ending 19159.

dear all.. we need another three days to kill all uncontrollable civilians. today we actually did random fire. cos this idiot civilians wonna go to GOSL area.........

therefore fund us. we can win the freedom when the civilians are not there...

NOLTTE=Peace said...

I would like to drain the Safe Zone at the first opportunity.

It would be advantageous to the Army in the long-run to focus on getting the safe zone drained, and get all the civilians to the Army Controlled area at the earliest opportunity.

Not only the Human Bombs, Army should be aware of,

Suitcase bombs
Cart bombs
Artillery fired by LTTE to the IDP centres

etc.

Our generals should not go to newly liberated areas and touch, handle what terrorists left.

Places could be booby trapped or laced with deadly germs or chemicals.

The best way to drain the Safe Zone is to attack LTTE from every side and give a great focus to the Safe Zone. This will prevent LTTE focusing solely on the Safe Zone.

If we were to liberate all the other areas first, and tried to liberate the Safe Zone at last, it will allows LTTE to focus all their resources on defending the Safe Zone.

Peter said...

Hmm

Sounds like some bus bombs to counter any does in the West.

gladiator said...

Pete ,

u r a bloody bugger. u said u r coming here just for three days and u r not going even to see ur parents ..now u got enough time to chat with bloggers

Peter said...

Mind you, have to invite the media first.

Anonymous said...

/unlike Sarath fonseka'a claim, in this vedio itself there are more than 500 LTTE.. So whats happening there/

What 500? There are around 50 max. When diASSpora going to stop listening to SF's claims..? hikz

NOLTTE=Peace said...

Vanni Tamil,

In Vanni, is 1 = 20?

Peter said...

I am about to go to bed. A little time posting random stuff around the net.

Brave1 said...

Mathangi "Maya" Arulpragasam was born in Hounslow, London, the daughter of Kala and Arul Pragasam. Her family is of Tamil descent.

http://indiapost.com/article/communitypost/5487/

Man this bitch MIA was saying she was born in SL....while this articles she is born in UK...

What a slut she is....she can say lie like...breathing...

Peter said...

Nrave1,

I don't think she ever said she was born there.

She went to Jaffna when a few months old and staid there 'till she was about 10.

Vanni Tamil said...

Ninja
I dont get it ??

Peter said...

n another sad event for our Eelam Struggle it has been noted that as many as 8000 Traitorous Worthless, Low caste Tamils have sneaked off during the night and escaped the “protection” provided to them by the Heroic Freedom Fighting LTTE!

These Tamils were in fact Traitorous Lackeys (probably of Eastern Tamil or Upcountry Tamil descent) that were just squatting in Eelam and sucking from our Generous Welfare System (provided Free of charge by the GoSL). It has seemed that when the going gets tough, the Traitors run to the arms of their Masters.

Needless to say that they will not be missed, and should anything bad happen to them as they cross dangerous jungle Terrain to fall on their knees to their Sinhala Masters, that we here in the LTTE controlled area of Eelam will not be shedding any tears for their loss. In fact we hope and pray that a Suicide Hero or Two detonate themselves in one of those IDP camps set up for such Turncoat Tamils by the Sinhala Army.

If they happen to get some bullets on the back when they are leaving us we are not responsible because it is the GoSL’s responsibility to protect all civilians.


We LTTErs and our Faithful Human Shield Brigades of the Tamil Eelam Army will remain here, safe and sound, in the Flourishing Disease-Free Jungles of Eelam while Thalaivar finalizes his plan to defeat the GoSL armed forces once and for all.


href="http://tamilnet.tv">click here for more information and Photos

Anonymous said...

Brave1

MIA was not born in SL, not a SL citizen but fighting for LTTE - same case as for many diASSpora peelaam warriors.

Wanni tamil

Just count your fighters in the video and tell us how many.

Peter said...

I am tempted, but really can't be arsed to create another google account.

Unknown said...

majority(more than 60%) IDP's received at camps are women and small children. Many of the able bodied males and teenagers are kept by LTTE and are being forced into weapons training.

THe hardcore carder base is severely depleted now.

Peter said...

Thanks for the update duzz.

What will moda Lanka do without intelligent agents such as yourself.

Unknown said...

"Mathangi "Maya" Arulpragasam was born in Hounslow, London, the daughter of Kala and Arul Pragasam. Her family is of Tamil descent."

wow our Kfirs went on bombing runs from Katunayaka to London? (she said her school was bombed)

those israelis sure know how to make a flying machine.. :))

Brave1 said...

Finish date April 1st...

GOOD day to send the biggest joker to the hell....

..and ever since then....we'll have better meaning to the day...

Anonymous said...

/THE 574 Brigade troops commanded by Lieutenant Colonel SENAKA WIJESOORIYA of the 57 Division under the command of Major General JAGATH DIAS entered the west of KURAVILKULAM build-up this afternoon (10).

Troops of the 8 SLLI (Sri Lanka Light Infantry) commanded by Lieutenant Colonel IPSITHA DISSANAYAKE successfully facing the LTTE resistance for two days moved southwards from the A-35 road and captured the KURAVILKULAM intersection from where a few roads branch out to different directions.

This area is the main LTTE stronghold to the immediate west of PUTHUKUDIYIRIPPU.

One container full of MPMG (Multi Purpose Machine Gun) and T-56 ammunition was also recovered by the troops from the area.

Fighting between the 574 Brigade troops and terrorists are still going on./

# Does this mean A35 cutoff from east of PTK?

# Thanks for the arms and ammo, diASSpora.

Peter said...

One container full of MPMG (Multi Purpose Machine Gun)

and

T-56 ammunition

was also recovered by the troops from the area.

Brave1 said...

Peter...

watch the interview once more..she says she was born in SL.

Or is it me who has to watch it again?

Unknown said...

that info was confirmed by saman kumara ramawickrama who reported that majority of the IDPs were women and children.

Many photo footage from wanni show civilians being trained by LTTE.

and soosai being unheard on the airwaves for 3 days now.

Peter said...

Tamil kids, unfortunately, aren't clever enough to go to school before they are six months old.

MIA, being Tamil, is unlikely to have been to school as a baby in London.

Peter said...

dear All my Fans

we lost another 3 senior carders. the genocide Srilankan Army Killed Our innocent Pink LTTE carders. our Pink carders are really nice. most of are she males. why this genocide SLA killed our Pink tigers. the things they did actually armed the Robin Hood Firearms. those are toys we always use this arms to play with children. we lost three pink tigers and now there are only 152 senior pink tigers.. what a pity,,,


colombo massage is this...

Three armed LTTE terrorists on two motorbikes were observed by the 58 Division troops in the SURANTHARANPURAM area Tuesday (10) afternoon and opened fire at them killing all of them on the spot.

It is believed that those terrorists were on their barbaric LTTE mission of killing innocent civilians fleeing with their children and family members to Security Forces-held areas for safety.

Troops later conducted a search in the area and recovered three dead bodies of the terrorists along with their weapons, two radio sets and two motorbikes.
Meanwhile, LTTE terrorists unable to face the attacks by the troops have started to abandon their weapons in the positions where they were deployed and flee the areas for life.

The 58 Division troops have so far recovered a number of weapons abandoned by terrorists in trenches.

Twenty three T-56 weapons, forty two 60 mm mortar launchers and forty one RPGs (Rocket Propeller Guns) were among the weapons recovered.

Unknown said...

ninja,

A35 was cut off indeed. But it was done by the troops of Tf2.

Peter said...

Brave1,

I think you have to watch it again.

She always says she went back when six months old.

Peter said...

We lost Chellaiyan and Vinayagam.

Please help us find another name for him.

Anonymous said...

Duzz

So Kurvilkulam junction taken by 574 is not in A35?

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Anonymous said...

Genocide

Brave1 said...

Guys...what do u say for ending the war on 1st April, 2009?

Correct.?

gladiator said...

Brave1,
wat about Apr 17

gladiator said...

Brave1,
wat about Apr 17

Rover said...

ReallyCold,

"Rover, great job.
Would you be interested linking your name with the blog?"

I debated this and decided against it. Most people in my country (SL) are not liberal enough to understand some of the ideas that I need to talk about. Pushing them to be better people is my goal, and we are not quite there yet.

Thanks for your suggestion though.

Anonymous said...

let´s wait for a new battlefield-map on SLA-website,maybe tomorrow. Then we will see,how close the 58th and all other divisions are to PTK and the A-35.our actual main problem is the remaining coastline under LTTE-control. The 55th and 59th have to advance beyond a single bridge,which are mined.and on the end of the bridge the LTTE has good fortifications. It´s difficult to overcome these defences,the 59th north of Mullaittivu is not able to adcvance for 17 days now. Reminds me on the war-movie "Bridge of Remagen",where the US-army had the same problems in Germany for many weeks. This is the most difficult task at the moment for our army

onecountry said...

cj:

One salvo of MBRL would take care of the bunker near the bridge. There are no civilians in this area. We must go with minimum casualties.

NOLTTE=Peace said...

Why waste MBRL? An RCL would do the job!

ReallyCold..... said...

Rover

[I debated this and decided against it. Most people in my country (SL) are not liberal enough to understand some of the ideas that I need to talk about. Pushing them to be better people is my goal, and we are not quite there yet.]

Well, you understand the audience more than myself. This is an interesting fact considering our higher literacy.

Just reading and writing isn't enough. We need to teach people on critical thinking as well.

There is so much you can tell from a person than by first impression, accent, where schooled, who the parents/relatives are, and the list goes on.

mottapala said...

Moshey
I see Sangarie as the tamil equivalent of the Dr JJ of uNP. Now his aim is not the tamil cause, but to win the next election if any. He is simply trying to score points here. In a very short time he will be claiming he is the sole representive of the tamil nation.

BTW I dont think Gota will be so idiotic to give in to Sangarees requests, he has come so far, he will go the next bit untill this problem is solved. Gota and SF are masters in this kind of under ground work. Thay started even before real war started. How the hell they stoped attcks in Colombo?

Not only Sangaree, we will see a whole bunchof opportunistic tamil saviours springing up in the next few months.

NOLTTE=Peace said...

CJ is avoiding the question!

Why did you change your handle from Renegade to CJ?

Or is this kind of double op similar to much publicised 'rana's one?

Moshe Dyan said...

mottapala,

100% true.

"In a very short time he will be claiming he is the sole representive of the tamil nation."

this is EXACTLY what the man is after. any "sole representation" is BAD.

but the problem is not GR or SF. they cannot be fooled. i fear MR. i suspect MR intervened in some ASS requests b4 and overruled GR and SF.

e.g. when night air attackes were halted for a long time from april 2008

e.g. allowing the train to vavuniya despite repeated attempts by SLDFs to stop it in medawachchiya

e.g. APRC working on a "federal" type of a solution despite wide spread disagreement

e.g. removing EPDP from kilinochchi development. EPDP has done an EXCELLENT job in jaffna. ALL development work during war time was done by them. we know ASS is not getting on well with the EPDP for the reason you mentioned above. the fact that ASS represented kili earlier does not make sense. he did so from the TC and TULF under RACIST+SEPERATIST agendas.

Lalith Kuruwita said...

{{{One container full of MPMG (Multi Purpose Machine Gun)

and

T-56 ammunition

was also recovered by the troops from the area.

}}}


All these containers were imported during Ranil Ponnaya's period.

I also heard that some of UNP supporters & LTTE supporters were saying after the presidential election that containers of aids from Australia & Europe were held up in the Colombo harbour for checking. There is a lengthy delays and food items & medicenes got expeird at the Harbour.

I remeber even some NGA's & INGA's were complaining to MR the delay espeiially about the stuff sent by TNO. I was also critical of MR at that time.

Some time later the Governemnt found that a lot of containers had ammunition and other war items in those aids containers.

Now we can see that we found a lot of containers in this Mullativu Jungle. All these are brought in during Ranill Ponnaya or after the Sunami as aids from TRO and oter LTTP supporters.

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Anonymous said...

Tamiz Eezaam out side SL

Suicide bomber arrested - V'madu

Target - Shavindra Silva

28,000 cross over since Jan 1 (genocide)

PTK attack

MathaMathica said...

Mottapala said.. : ... he will be claiming he is the sole representative of the tamil nation.

IMHO,

We have to watch our vocabulary. The next generation of Sri Lankans must be aware of only one Nation in Sri Lanka – that is the Sri Lankan Nation.

A Nation is a group of people who are decided to share a common destiny.

We dont have the luxury to have a special destiny for the SL Tamil community. This small island requires every body living there to share the pleasures and pains of all its inhabitants – a common destiny.

Talk always about the Tamil Community, avoid using the term Tamil Nation.

Rover said...

ReallyCold,

Thanks; your views are noted, and respected.

Sometime back, in DW, I talked a little bit about the need for our country to be a liberal democracy instead of just a democracy. The topic I selected to pass this on was perhaps unfortunate, but it was contemporary. The topic was gay-rights. After I wrote a little account, a couple of folks thought I was gay!

By looking at the way people use gayness to denigrate people (Ranil Ponnaya, Mon-gala ect!), I thought, - wow, it is dangerous to say some of this stuff to some of these folks.

In the future, I am thinking of writing several notes on extremism, terrorism, ineptness ect. and some of the stuff will "hit" our folks too (if they don't take it in the right spirit that is).

So explicitly, this is the reason for the anonymousness. I need to express myself fully, with no bars held, if I believe that it will do good to our country.

Mango said...

Time for Sri Lanka to unleash their own 'Munich'?

The USA does it. The UK does it. France does it. Russia definitely does it. Israel does it on a tediously regular basis.

"It" may not be strictly legally correct. What is 'it'? Hunting and killing the state's enemies who operate with impunity in foreign territory.

For Sri Lanka, Selvarasa Pathmanathan known as 'KP' is a priority target. As the LTTE's chief arms procurer, he has enabled VP and the LTTE to indulge in a 30-year orgy of unremitting murder, from innocent villagers of all ethnicities to democratically elected politicians including two Heads of State.

KP has now been named as the LTTE's Head of (newly established) Department of International Relations. If VP is killed, or prevented pushing for Eelam, KP will be hugely important for the LTTE's survival.

He has an unrivalled network of arms procurers including a still-functioning shipping network. He's alleged to be in Thailand or similar state, living under some sort of quasi-official protection.

His disappearance (preferably through a deniable 'Munich' type operation) will leave the LTTE in doubt that their senior operative will never live in peace. Senior politicians (and their families) in Sri Lanka already live under permanent death threats from the LTTE. What more fearful threats can the LTTE bring to bear as the result of a 'Munich' operation?

When the inevitable Human-rights retards start bemoaning this policy of targeted assassination, the GOSL should politely direct them to begin their inquiries and protests starting with the US.

NOLTTE=Peace said...

It looks like these goons want to poison someone using "Monitor's Oil"

Both are Tamils.

Have been caught while brewing "Monitor Oil"

http://www.lakbima.lk/articles/news16.htm

NOLTTE=Peace said...

ReallyCold,

You sounds like you have no much tacit knowledge about Sri Lankan culture and terms.

On another note, you can not impose Western ideologies on Sri Lanka too.

The word Ponnaya is mostly used in Sri Lanka to describe someone who has an "inability". It does not necessarily tell that person is gay.

When most of the patriots use the word "Ponna" to describe Ranil, they use the word to communicate Ranil's "inability".

Ranil being gay is another issue. We do not give a "puk" about it, but want to protect our kids from going near them or taking part in UNP "Youth Activities".

NOLTTE=Peace said...

Gringo,

If you would compensate some foreign organisation's for their own hard-work worth, they will bring KP to your door!

It is the commitment we need from GOSL to bring that person to the door.

ReallyCold..... said...

@Rover

[After I wrote a little account, a couple of folks thought I was gay!]

So, you are not? I thought I have some company here.

I am trying to fight against the white van culture. The other issues are way beneath my book.

I think Sri Lankans often make fun of anything and gays are not an exception. When I say we are the land of discrimination, someone immediately called me LTTE.

Gayness is part of our society and people say few of our past key leaders have been them including RW and Upali Wijayawardana.

I think we are more accommodating about it than the name calling behind pseudo names.

Whatever you think make sense, it was just a suggestion.

ReallyCold..... said...

@NOLTTE=Peace

[You sounds like you have no much tacit knowledge about Sri Lankan culture and terms.]

How so? Did you get confused between Rover and ReallyCold?

[On another note, you can not impose Western ideologies on Sri Lanka too.]

Can you give an example?

[The word Ponnaya is mostly used in Sri Lanka to describe someone who has an "inability". It does not necessarily tell that person is gay.]

Let's cut the crap.
We call 100% Gays ponnaya.
We call 100% Trans gender ponnaya
We call x% straight ponnaya as well.

[ Ranil being gay is another issue. We do not give a "puk" about it, but want to protect our kids from going near them or taking part in UNP "Youth Activities".]

Dude, I remember seeing guys having sex with each other in my Buddhist school and they were not gay. Boy scouts were notorious for that. Don't we hear that from some of the temples as well?

Sri Lankan male are more sexually frustrated than rest of the world due to our culture and their gayness has been source for entertainment until their mom find a suitable girl.

Rover said...

RC,

"So, you are not? I thought I have some company here."

Heh! Heh!, not really ready to talk about my sexual convictions here!

MathaMathica said...

[NOLTTE=PEACE said … : Places could be booby trapped or laced with deadly germs or chemicals. ]

Hope SLDFs study these subtle type of warfare. The key personalities of the Govt. Must also be alert.

On a lighter vein, GR should avoid shaking hands with BBC etc journalists. Even sharing the air with them ( to be in the same room) can be contaminating.

Rover said...

Yes, noltte=peace, you should have addressed me (Rover) not reallycold.

But I assure you mate, that I know the Sinhala language inside out.

Did I try to impose a western ideal on us? Liberalism is a Buddhist concept that west borrowed from us!

I was not talking about ponnayas or gays, I was talking about liberalism.

Rover said...

" How so? Did you get confused between Rover and ReallyCold? "

Now someone is going to say Rover=ReallyCold!

Earthbund said...

Video on LTTE capture SL's Arms storage

http://www.vakthaa.tv/v/2998/01.02.2009

NOLTTE=Peace said...

My apologies to both Rover and ReallyCold!

I addressed to Rover!

Liberalism also should have its limits. But, Sri Lanka has an established culture and you can not impose all the liberal views on Sri Lanka just like that.

Thoughts of Eastern Liberalism is built on the existing cultural foundations and does not go into extremes.

With reference to Buddhism, Buddhism only asks is to avoid refrain from sexual misconduct i.e. rape, adultery etc.

BTW, Mon-gala is so much referred to sound to give the impression of "Mongal" than his Gala orgin.

Rover said...

"Video on LTTE capture SL's Arms storage "

Even if these are SLA arms, for how long can LTTE retain these? Soon all arms are going to be SLA arms storage.

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Rover said...

No worries mate, noltte.

"Liberalism also should have its limits."

Of course.

MathaMathica said...

The best we can learn from everyday Hinduism is the worshipping of Laigam/Yoni (Shiva/parwathi) union.

It brings into open one of the most powerful driving force of almost all what is living. Celebrating it moderately is very good for the health, creativity and growth of the young .

Otherwise, it is the best path to hypocrisy and duplicity.

Gringo said...

[Tamiz Eezaam out side SL
]

Congratulations, Tamil Diaspora. If I ever read anything sensible, realistic about a separate Tamil estate, this is it. Great display of maturity.

Also, this is an achievable dream, taking into account the possibilities, space and the intense support by the foreigners. (Once there was a suggestions for a separate state for Palestinians in Canada.)

But wherever the Eelam is... here's a friendly warning... (no threat... no rhetoric...) We'll cut off your balls and throw them to the all Sri Lankan crows... if you ever try to mess with proud, moda, village and poor chenna boys...

true srilankan said...

# Final act
Click here

# The Indian stand
Click here

# Situation report (Feb 10) by SLA
Click here

# International coup d’tat against Sri Lanka
Click here

# LTTE woman suicide bomber targeted Brigadier Shavendra Silva, Commander of Sri Lanka Army’s 58 Division
Click here

# The Future of the Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam
Click here

MathaMathica said...

The British High Commissioner was accompanied by his Program Manager Sweta Velpillay and Political and Press Officer Niruban Muttiah ..

Reminds the colonial preferences ...

ReallyCold..... said...

Noltte
[Thoughts of Eastern Liberalism is built on the existing cultural foundations and does not go into extremes.]

Whether we like it or not, Colombo is very liberal. It is very multicultural, integrated, westernized as well as Easternized, and very open to Gay/Lesbian issues.


[With reference to Buddhism, Buddhism only asks is to avoid refrain from sexual misconduct i.e. rape, adultery etc.]

Agreed.

ReallyCold..... said...
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ReallyCold..... said...

Talking about liberalism, I don't think we can ever realistically expect Sri Lanka to be a liberal society.

When people talk about Liberal, I am thinking nations like Holland or Sweden.

Sri Lanka will be Buddhist/Hindu/Christian/Islamic marsala society.

The Buddhism in our culture today is nominal with respect to Buddhist philosophy since we tend to interpret it the way convenient for us.

Buddhism is for us is like the Mercedes Benz we have that we never care to drive. It just sits there in the garage and take the tuk tuk to work.

Ironically I find lay Buddhists who are more inspired by Buddhist Philosophy than some of the Buddhist clergy.

When the flood gates are open, we will be well westernized society. Those who care about our traditional values will be left out and be in misery forever.

The world is flat, again. Flat world can't expect to have distinct cultural boundaries.

If I have the choice, the path I will take is spiritual than liberal.

කස්තුරි..Kasthuri said...

Civilian problem in the zone of conflict

By 1990 LTTE realised the potential benefits from trapping civilians into areas under their control. The benefits they have experienced and sought after are as follows:

1. SLG was forced to supply free heath care, education and civil administration.

2. International community help through ICRC, UN, NGO and INGO.

3. All executives and workers in the above sectors were paid by the SLG but controlled by the tigers.

4. LTTE killed high ranking SLG officers who are not carrying out their commands and discouraged others to follow orders from Colombo government.

5. LTTE was free from the burden to look after its community but got the lions share from the above services.

6. LTTE launched massive campaign to brain wash children using government run schools.

7. LTTE taxed them heavily.

8. LTTE forced trapped civilians to work for them, constructing ditches, earth bunds and manufacture of war materials.

9. LTTE used civilians to recruit their cadres.

10. LTTE used civilians to build human right violation campaign to discredit the SLG.

11. LTTE used civilians to make it difficult for armed forces to launch offensives against them.


As the area controlled by the LTTE shrink, especially during 2008/09, LTTE forced civilians to retreat with them, in order to enjoy above benefits continuously.

Today they are still holding about 100,000 to 120,000 civilians by force to make it difficult for armed forces to attack and using civilian casualties to arouse international community opinion against the Sri Lanka government.

Well oiled LTTE propaganda machine manned by Tamil Diaspora still camouflaging tiger strips from international community and painting a barbaric picture on SLG and Sinhala community.

This is the time for fair minded Tamil people who are living outside the tiger controlled area to stand against barbaric LTTE for the liberation of their brothers and sisters who are inhumanly trapped by tigers for their own survival.

I am asking all fair minded Tamils to visit defence.lk and army.lk web sites and look those pictures how Sri Lankan defence forces are treating Tamil civilians who had been survived from terror clutches of LTTE.

If you are not helping SLG to liberate remaining civilians from LTTE you cannot call yourself a human but surely want to be an animal of the worst kind.

kevin said...

I think both Peters are one and the same guy one trying to go to SL with ‘good conduct pass’ and the other supporting the convert’s new stand by being in the opposite side.Very clever.

Moshe Dyan said...

mango,

unfortunately it cannot be done in the SL context.

SL is not a superpower. all the examples you listed are superpowers including israel (yes it is; believe it or not it has the 4th largest nuclear weapons arsenal in the world!!!). Sl depends on the world community economically, politically and on military matters VERY MUCH. the world community is NOT going to tolerate it AT ALL.

second reason is that the MOST violent enemies of SL are in developed countries with STRONG defence. messing up with them is suicidal.

but what should happen is to punish ALL the enemies of the state LEGALLY. it can be done. only thing is we RARELY attempt it. leave the diaspora clowns alone. i know they are the worst enemies but we cannot do anything about them. let them do whatever legal in the new countries, lets tighten the rope in SL.

i agree in SL, we should ALSO (subject to limits) kill enemies of SL with impunity.

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Ananda-USA said...

LTTE cadre abandoning heavy weapons and fleeing trenches

News item from Army.lk

Twenty three T-56 weapons, forty two 60 mm mortar launchers and forty one RPGs (Rocket Propeller Guns) were among the weapons recovered.

Moshe Dyan said...

mathematica,

that's what we meant. it is MOST tamil ppl of SL. the word tamil "nation" was used by MP (me thinks) to denote the next step the TAMILULF/DTAMILNA leader WILL SURELY take.

also note that his new party according to daily news is democratic TAMIL NATIONAL alliance!!! (i posted the link a few days back). this is THAT development i refered above.

carefully note the evolution.

all ceylon tamil congress (still part of ceylon though racist)--->tamil state party (still part of a divided ceylon though racist)---->tamil united liberation front (tamil emerging seperately from ceylon/SL)--->tamil national alliance (a tamil race-based monoethnic country).

ASS is a LIVING example of this 80+ years old evolution. he is a reflection of this evolution within about 45 years of his OWN SHIT LIFE!!!!

(LSSP---->tamil congress--->tamil united liberation front---->democratic tamil national alliance)

phew!! they are such dumb idiots they don't care to hide their (innocent) RACISM.

කස්තුරි..Kasthuri said...

Guys,

This war would have been over by now, if SLDF is free to attack and destroy only tiger forces. However, they are facing massive civilian problem and trapped civilians are similar to heavy dumb bells that are attached to our forces. Not only are these dragging our forces but administrators too facing massive problems from international arena.

Therefore, I am asking our readers here to concentrate on civilian problem and come up with possible solutions to help SLG and armed forces to combat tiger forces free from humanitarian problems.


If we all can focus on the above, we may come up with a feasible solution that we can forward to SLG and secretary of defence in time to accelerate hunting of remaining tiger cadres.

true srilankan said...

# 'Black Tiger' looked composed before wreaking havoc
Click here

# Prabhakaran's swansong
Click here

# Has Prabhakaran an option ?
Click here

# The welfare of IDPs: Problems and views
Click here

# Demo urges Canada to take meaningful action against LTTE
Click here

# LTTE clutching at straws
Click here

kevin said...

Really cold

‘When the flood gates are open, we will be well westernized society. Those who care about our traditional values will be left out and be in misery forever.’
Please don’t worry if these flood gates are open to so called westernized society as these values are very much in evidence in these countries like tolerance,honesty,respect to rule of law, charity etc which is very much in line I am sure his teachings which is not found in SL these days.

Ananda-USA said...

B. Raman's at it again: Trying to pit India against Sri Lanka

1. India denies us all the wepons we need, yet is angry when we get them from Pakistan & China

2. India inflicts separatism and terrorism on us, and expects Sri Lanka to trust them and remain defenceless without allies

3. Raman advocates a federal solution for Sri Lanka to placate Tamil Nadu at Sri Lanka's expense

4. Raman conveniently forgets that devolution was IMPOSED by INDIA on Sri Lanka. It is not the FREE CHOICE of the majority of the people of our country. In law, agreements entered into by victims UNDER DURESS are NULL and VOID, as in the aftermath of WW-II in countries conquered by Nazi Germany.

Raman is now attempting to set the stage for the Tamil Separatists in Sri Lanka to WIN IN PEACE what they FAILED TO WIN IN WAR.

Also, why is this LTTE-er (he helped create the LTTE as a RAW agent and is now speaking as if he had nothing to do with it) a listed columnist of the "SriLankaGuardian.com" website?

In what way, shape, or form does he help GUARD Sri Lanka? He is an outright ENEMY AGENT!

WHO are the DECISION MAKERS at SriLankaGuardian.com that allows him to use that website for his disseminating propaganda inimical to Sri Lanka?


India’s Sri Lanka Problem: Keeping the fingers crossed
By B. Raman

The success of the Sri Lankan Armed Forces in inflicting a series of defeats on the Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam (LTTE) since the middle of 2006 and in restoring the writ of the State over 95 per cent of the territory in the Tamil majority Eastern and Northern provinces, which was under the control of the LTTE, has been greeted in India with a mix of satisfaction and concern.

The satisfaction arises from the expected total defeat of the LTTE’s insurgent force, which had succeeded in virtually establishing a State within a State with its paraphernalia of an administrative structure and a so-called Army, Navy and Air Force. Its naval and air capabilities posed a threat not only to the national security of Sri Lanka, but also to the security of India and the region as a whole.

India’s concerns over the naval and air capabilities of the LTTE were magnified after the terrorist attack in Mumbai from November 26 to 29,2008, by a group of 10 sea-borne terrorists from Pakistan belonging to the Lashkar-e-Toiba (LET). The success of the LET terrorists in Mumbai brought to India’s mind the similar success of a group of sea-borne terrorists of the LTTE who clandestinely landed in India’s southern coast in 1991, found their way to Chennai and assassinated Rajiv Gandhi, the former Prime Minister of India, at the venue of an election meeting In May ,1991.

Whatever ambivalence might have been there in India’s policy-making circles over the advisability of openly supporting the counter-insurgency operations of the Sri Lankan Armed Forces was removed after the Mumbai terrorist attack. There was a realization that terrorism in any form by any group for any reason should not be tolerated and that double standards in dealing with terrorism would only play into the hands of the terrorists. When India was demanding that Pakistan should act strongly against terrorists operating from its territory, it could not have criticized the counter-insurgency operations of the Sri Lankan Armed Forces against the LTTE.

No tears have been shed in India over the defeat of the LTTE as an insurgent force. Even before the Mumbai terrorist attack, India had been quietly helping the Sri Lankan Armed Forces by supplying defensive equipment such as radars and by training Sri Lankan personnel in the use of this equipment. Indian intelligence, which has a long history of co-operation with its Sri Lankan counterpart since the assassination of Rajiv Gandhi, stepped up this co-operation further since 2006 and willingly shared with the Sri Lankan authorities intelligence of value in dealing with the LTTE. The Sri Lankan Armed Forces should be the first to acknowledge that their success in severely damaging, if not destroying, the commercial shipping capability of the LTTE was to a considerable extent facilitated by precise intelligence from India. One of the reasons for the defeat of the LTTE was its inability to replenish its stocks of arms and ammunition through clandestine shipments from abroad. Intelligence supplied by India contributed significantly to disrupting these clandestine shipments.

Indian policy-makers have no reasons to regret such limited assistance provided by them. This assistance was in mutual interest. India, which has itself faced serious insurgent situations in its North-East and in Jammu & Kashmir and has dealt with them strongly and effectively, could not have viewed with equanimity the success of a dreaded insurgent-cum-terrorist force such as the LTTE in its neighbourhood. The LTTE is now a dying horse, but not yet a dead horse. Its final demise as an insurgent-cum-terrorist organization, when it comes about, should be a matter of satisfaction to all those opposed to terrorism.

India’s concerns are not over the impending demise of the LTTE. They are over what next. Many questions ought to be bothering the minds of Indian policy-makers. It has been India’s experience since its independence in 1947 that whenever any Government in Colombo felt itself strong enough not to need Indian assistance in any matter, it has shown a troubling insensitivity to India’s security concerns. One saw this before and after the Sino-Indian war of 1962. While pretending to take a neutral stand in the border dispute between India and China, it took a position which was perceived in India as more sympathetic to China than India. In the months preceding the Indo-Pakistan war of 1971, which facilitated the birth of Bangladesh, Indira Gandhi, in retaliation for the hijacking of an Indian Airlines plane to Lahore by two Pakistan-instigated terrorists from J&K, banned all Pakistani flights to the then East Pakistan over Indian territory. Sri Lanka went to the help of Pakistan by allowing Pakistan Air Force planes carrying troops and equipment to East Pakistan to refuel at the Katunayake airport. A furious Indira Gandhi warned the Sri Lankan Government that she considered this an unfriendly act and threatened to retaliate against Sri Lanka. It was only after this that Sri Lanka stopped the refueling of the PAF planes. After the Indian nuclear test of 1974, India was concerned over a reported move of the US to set up a huge set-up of the Voice of America in Sri Lankan territory. Indian intelligence had told her that the US intelligence agency, which is responsible for technical intelligence, would have a presence in the VOA set-up to collect intelligence about India’s nuclear and space establishments in Tamil Nadu and Kerala. When the Sri Lankan Government repeatedly ignored Indian concerns on this subject, Indira Gandhi decided to teach it a lesson by extending political, moral and diplomatic support to the Sri Lankan Tamils.

In recent years, successive Sri Lankan Governments have been showing sensitivity to India’s security and strategic concerns because they had been rendered weak by the success of the LTTE in establishing its control over large parts of the Northern and Eastern Provinces. Now that they are on the verge of defeating the LTTE after re-establishing their writ over the Tamil areas, will they continue to show the same sensitivity in future or will they go back to their past reflexes of playing India against Pakistan and China, whenever it suited them. Even during its present counter-insurgency operations, the Sri Lankan Government has expanded its economic and military supply relations with Pakistan and China. This trend could pick up momentum after they succeed totally in their operations against the LTTE.

The other Indian concern arises from the emotional dimension of the problem. Tamils constitute the overwhelming majority of Tamil Nadu, the southern coastal province of India. Ethnically, linguistically and culturally, they are close to the Sri Lankan Tamils. The political aspirations of the Sri Lankan Tamils and their difficulties in the unitary state that Sri Lanka is have an echo in Tamil Nadu. India had never supported the LTTE’s objective of an independent Tamil State in the Northern and Eastern Provinces to be called Tamil Eelam, but it has strongly favoured since 1987 the transformation of Sri Lanka into a genuine federal State with a separate State for the Tamils with considerable political and economic powers similar to the powers enjoyed by the States in the Indian Federation.

Successive Sri Lankan Governments have repeatedly assured their own Tamils as well as India of their intention for the devolution of powers to the Tamil provinces and to grant the Tamils the same status as enjoyed by the majority Sinhalese community with no discrimination on ethnic grounds. Will the Government in Colombo honour this promise once it feels it has destroyed the LTTE once and for all. The LTTE was the strongest of the Tamil political movements. Other Tamil political organizations, which are presently collaborating with the Government against the LTTE, are weak with limited following. Presently, the Government is giving them importance as proof of its intention to treat the Tamils as equals of the Sinhalese in all respects. Will it continue to do so once it succeeds in defeating the LTTE?

Policy-makers in India also ought to be concerned over the already evident signs of the recrudescence of Sinhalese extremism and intolerance not only in the civil society, but even in the Government and the Armed Forces. The intemperate remarks of Lt.Gen.Sarath Fonseka,the army commander, highlighting the Sinhalese character of the State (though denied subsequently), the attacks on journalists, who criticize the military operations and the criticism of humanitarian relief organizations which highlight the plight of the Tamil civilians are disturbing indicators of the revival of Sinhalese extremism as the Armed Forces near their final victory over the LTTE. This does not bode well for the future.

India is keeping its fingers crossed as it awaits the final defeat of the LTTE.

(The writer served as an analyst in the Research & Analysis Wing (R&AW), India’s external intelligence agency, from 1968 to 1994 and in the National Security Advisory Board of the Govt. of India from 2000 to end-2002. He is presently Director, Institute For Topical Studies, Chennai, and is also associated with the Chennai Centre For China Studies. He is the author of four books---- “Intelligence---Past, Present and Future” published in 2001, “ A Terrorist State as A Frontline Ally” published in 2001, “The Kaoboys of R&AW---Down Memory Lane” published in 2007 and “Terrorism--- Yesterday, Today and Tomorrow” published in 2008. All the four have been published by the Lancer Publishers of Delhi---www.lancerpublishers.com . E-mail: seventyone2@gmail.com )

Moshe Dyan said...

harry,

we DID discuss this BEFORE the civilian issue reached a crsis point. our plan was multipronged. the govt is actually following a similar strategy.

1. humanitarian aspect
drop leaflets, provide food, shlter, healthcare, entertainment to those who come, physically help ppl cross-over, open safe zones/humanitarian corridors

2. put international pressure on tigers to release civilians

ban the crap, get indians and tamil madu politicians to appreciate our demand for the LTTE to release ppl, get UN, etc. to atleast ask LTTE to release civilians, the right propoganda ampaign to say the UNDERLYING TRUTH (tigers keepinf ppl as human shields)

3. military
make ALL hospitals inaccessible to the LTTE. this will increase the harvest (injured LTTE---> dead LTTE).

it is a fact that hospital in LTTE areas are RESERVED for LTTE cadres on a PRIORITY basis. also civilians are regularly transfered to vavuniya/trinco. so taking over hospitals hurt LTTE more than civilians.

continue attacks. when more tigers die, less resistence ppl have to face in crossing over.

when it becomes FAR TOO dangerous to stay in LTTE controlled areas than flee, civilians tend to flee. convince them to flee. (this is ugly).

launch attacks from multiple fronts excluding from areas SLDFs want ppl to travel to govt areas. now ppl now even puthu is not safe!! increasingly their options are getting fewer and the escape option is becoming more and more attractive.

keep up the pressure ALWAYS.

4. manipulate humanitarian assistance to help the military plan. use food/medicine/ICRC as weapons of war. use these to ENTICE civilians away from the LTTE.

5. use other methods used in a HOSTAGE CRISIS.

wijayapala said...

Mottapala,

"BTW I dont think Gota will be so idiotic to give in to Sangarees requests, he has come so far, he will go the next bit untill this problem is solved."

No offense, but I think Uncle Gotabhaya knows quite a bit more about national security threats than you do (and certainly more than Mushe). He publishes Anandasangaree's writings on the MOD website understanding that Sangaree is far more of an ally than some expatriate "patriotic" dumbasses believe.

If there's an "ASS" on this blog, that title would most definitely belong to Mushe who can't even get the SL military to return his messages.

Anonymous said...

/I am asking our readers here to concentrate on civilian problem and come up with possible solutions../

Sri Lankans live in SL and abroad;

# Organize protests demanding LTTE sponsors namely,

1. Canada (opposition party)
2. UK Keith Vaaz and other LTTE supporting lawmakers
3. Hilary and other LTTE supporting lawmakers
4. TN jokers
5. Solheim and Norway
6. UN
7. ICRC
8. Bruice Fein
9. Dr. Brian S and Dr. Sisira J
10. TNA
11. Pro-LTTE Int.media (BBC etc)
12. MIA

TO pressurize LTTE TO

1. Remove the mines buried on footpaths to prevent civilians crossing
2. Stop firing at fleeing civilians
3. Facilitate civilian fleeing
4. Stop using human shield
5. Not to fire from safe zone
6. Surrender to SLA
7. Stop sending suicide bombers with civilians

කස්තුරි..Kasthuri said...

@ Really Cold, Rover and NOLTTE=Peace,

Mates, You all seems to be confused about Buddhism and Buddhists.

The third sin according to Buddhism is “KAME SUMICHCHA CHARA” which says wrongful sexual conduct will lead to “KARMA”. Now wrongful sexual conduct is a relative term. It is relative to the age, gender and time frame too. What was relevant to 2500 years ago may not apply as it is today. Today we should define wrongful sexual conduct as follows:

Depending on your situation, if your sexual acts make you ignorant, fearful and guilty at present or future, it is wrong. If your sexual acts make others around you miserable, painful and guilty at present or future, it is a wrong act. If you cam make sure your acts are free from the above, it is not be a sin.

Any such act should be measured according to the noble eightfold paths. Acts should be moral (seela), indifferent (upekha) and compassionate.

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Anonymous said...

/ Harry Potter said...

@ Really Cold, Rover and NOLTTE=Peace,

Mates, You all seems to be confused about Buddhism and Buddhists./

They are not. You are.

කස්තුරි..Kasthuri said...

@ Ninja,

NOLTTE=Peace said:

[With reference to Buddhism, Buddhism only asks is to avoid refrain from sexual misconduct i.e. rape, adultery etc.]

And Really Cold agreed.

[Agreed.]

The above explanation is a direct translation of 3rd sin according to 05 sins we were asked to refrain as civilians.

In broader context according to Buddhism any human acts should be according to the noble eight fold paths.

I can’t understand how I got confused here. Could please elaborate on your post?

Anonymous said...

@HP

/The third sin according to Buddhism is “KAME SUMICHCHA CHARA” which says wrongful sexual conduct will lead to “KARMA”./

1. Its not "KAME SUMICHCHA CHARA" its kamesu michcha chara. Means "kamyehi varadava hasireema".

2. So it (KAME SUMICHCHA CHARA) doesn't say wrongful sexual conduct will lead to “KARMA”.

3. Not only wrongful sexual acts but many other both good and bad things will lead to karma.

/Now wrongful sexual conduct is a relative term./

4. Yes, its a relative term and that's why Buddha himself defined what he meant by "wrong".

/It is relative to the age, gender and time frame too. What was relevant to 2500 years ago may not apply as it is today. Today we should define wrongful sexual conduct as follows:/

5. You don't have to redefine. What Buddha stated can be easily understood with little understanding of the culture and practices existed at that time, in that society.

Moshe Dyan said...

ninja,

if you don't mind, what does, 'paticca samuppada' mean???

it came in some article recently.

Moshe Dyan said...

obviously you don't have to worship "gods'" dicks and cunts for the right sexual behaviour! just look after yours!!!!

10 commandments given by moshe (mosses) talks similar things in commandments 6 & 9.

in simple language.

6 - no sexual "misconduct"
9 - no sex with/lust for "others' property"

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කස්තුරි..Kasthuri said...

@ Ninja,

Tnx,

However when they referring to gay activities during teen age and before marriage, I wonder whether can apply the third sin correctly. Because they are not committing adultery or rape but still it can lead to dissatisfaction and personal guilt as well as social denigration.

That is why Buddha has given right view and right livelihood as two noble paths.

Anyway, let us concentrate on defence matters.

Anonymous said...

@ MD

Ha Ha Hey, I am not a monk.

/if you don't mind, what does, 'paticca samuppada' mean???/

Basically, it explains (kind of a theory) why a person (living being) exists (through out what we call 'sansara') and hence show how one can become non-existent.

It goes as "reason and effect"; (hethu pala vadaya) When there is no reason, no effect. This is where Buddhism differs from God based theories (where final reason is going to be God) and Kovur (hethu vadaya).

I think you can easily find text on web for more details.

කස්තුරි..Kasthuri said...

@ Moshe, Ninja,

Yes, Ninja is correct. Patichcha Samuppada is the cyclic nature of birth to death and rebirth. If you break the cycle you will not born again to suffer.

Moshe Dyan said...

ninja,

thanks. sorry to continue this.

so how can one become "non-existent" and WHY become "non-existant"????

Moshe Dyan said...

harry & ninja,

ok. that explains it, though my beliefs differ. thanks. i stop.

Moshe Dyan said...

sorry. this is still not complete.

HOW to stop the cycle, HOW to become non-existant?????

HOW??

කස්තුරි..Kasthuri said...

Moshe,

First you need to understand every living being is suffering from this or that. Whether you like or not from birth to death all suffers. Then the other is Buddhists believe in rebirth and karma (acts and consequences) too. Only of you can stop the next birth your suffering will end. To break that cycle you need to purify your mind completely. That means getting rid of all desires and dislikes as well as ignorance. Ignorance is the father of desires and dislikes.

Moshe Dyan said...

harry,

thanks.

JWick said...

""MathaMathica said...

The best we can learn from everyday Hinduism is the worshipping of Laigam/Yoni (Shiva/parwathi) union.""

How can worshipping a dick and a cunt be "the best"??
If so, pornography is 100 times better than Hinduism!!

Anonymous said...

HP

@ Gay Issues

Gay issues existed in Buddha's time too, even among monks. If monks did that it is wrong and corrective actions (vinaya karma) need to be taken. However if a monk had sex with a female he is no more monk - expelled and no come back. For laymen, Buddha didn't mention about gay issues probably becuz it was uncommon in the socaity at that time compared todays west.

@ MD

Suppose you exist. In Buddhism we assume (unless and until one meditate, develop mind and realize this is an assumption) you exist before your birth for infinty time and also after your death unless you become enlightened (arahath.) Also, 'suffering' is there with anyone and this need to be understood. (Usually people do not understand this.) So Buddha gave you a permanent solution to avoid this suffering; which is called attain nirvana - i.e. develop mind upto certain state (the highest state). Once you do this you will not born again after death, so you no more exist after death, so no more suffering. Patichcha Samuppada is a theory which explains this phenomenon. It shows a cyclic nature in reasoning. To break the cycle (become enlightened) you have to meditate (vipassana technique.) Once you become enlightened it is good as non-existent; complete non-existent happens with death.

කස්තුරි..Kasthuri said...

JWick,

Please don’t insult other religions because you may inflict pain and suffering to other people who follow those religions. It is against Buddhist philosophy to ridicule other people’s beliefs.

NOLTTE=Peace said...

The lose cannon Bob Rae has got more than he bargained for, for going to market for LTTE.


The Loser Bob Rae meeting his Waterloo

This loser came to Sri Lanka to distribute $3M to the war affected recently and tried to make un-invited political statements.

He is one of those LTTE supporters who is after Canadian LTTE voter base. They are ardent supporters of Canadian LTTE Tamils.

We hope that this loser will not come again to Sri Lanka if he has some self-dignity left after being exposed.

Anonymous said...

@ MD

Let me do a little correction or clarification.

When we say become non-existent its not very correct. It is, according to Buddha you do not exist but you think (and sure about) that you exist. So Buddha's method shows you do not exist. Enlightened means you understand (realize) this (i.e. you do not exist).

Anonymous said...

@HP

/It is against Buddhist philosophy to ridicule other people’s beliefs./

We usually don't ridicule or insult other people's believes but nothing wrong doing so if those believes are harmful, wrong and done with good intention. Buddha has criticized such practices many times. Today we may do this in an academic setting but avoid doing so in general just to maintain ethnic harmony.

Hope others excuse this bana talks and be back to defence talks.

MayilRavana මයිල් රාවන said...

Moshe machan,
Siddharta Gautama was perhaps the most significant genius in Human history. He developed an insight (without modern mathematics) about the nature of existence and presented it in a well thought out argument. "Patticca Samuppada" in my opinion is at the core of his argument. (BTW while I understand why such a profound theory such as his resulted in religious devotion, I don't think you have to be religious to appreciate his genius).

A good English translation of Patticca Samuppada is "Dependent Origination". In this concept he observed that every phenomenon is dependent on phenomena that came before. This observation was fundamental in his argument against "Atman" (the concept of a a creator-soul developed by the ancient philosophers pruior to his time)- called Anatta.

This was not where he stopped. He had a further brilliant insight that there is no begnning or end and that time is an illusion. You can see such thinking in his quizzical (evidently to thgose of the time)answers to questions. These ideas are very much congruent with Modern Physics.
His ideas of Anatta and Anicca (BTW these were brand new ideas and completely original- thus his genius) directly led to the idea of Shunya and probably Nirvana. This is wrongly interpreted as non-existence. However, the concept of "zero" is very much incorporated within both these concepts. A modern mathematician would be able to appreciated why "zero" does not necessarily mean "non-existance".

That's my 2-cents worth and I hope I haven't confused you more. My daughter found her head spinning when I posed a little of this idea to her.

Ananda-USA said...

Sri Lanka Should Reject DEVOLUTION on ETHNIC BASIS imposed by INDIA on SRI LANKA

Pranab is preaching Devolution to us; but India failed to keep its end of that Faustian bargain when it Pulled Out of Sri Lanka without Disarming the LTTE as was its responsibility under the Agreement. Therefore, that AGREEMENT is NULL & VOID. This should be explained to INDIA by the GOSL.

Now, India wants to reassert that Agreement, because it wants to maintain its powerbase in Sri Lanka, and control our country from WITHIN.

Sri Lanka should REJECT DEVOLUTION on ETHNIC BASIS Totally!

Indians don't have to live with consequences, WE DO. India's claim as a "regional superpower" of a "RIGHT TO INTERFERE" in sovereign Sri Lanka's internal matters should be FIRMLY REJECTED.

Devolution of powers in Lanka only way out: Pranab
11 Feb 2009

"NEW DELHI: India on Tuesday underlined the urgent need for credible devolution of powers in Sri Lanka, saying it is the only way forward to ensure resolution of problems afflicting the island nation.

External Affairs Minister Pranab Mukherjee, who received a telephonic call from Canadian Foreign Minister Lawrence Cannon, told him that India remains concerned over the condition of civilian population in northern Sri Lanka.

Mukherjee noted that the "safety and security of the civilians and the internally displaced persons continued to be a source of concern," the External Affairs Ministry said.

He said the only way forward would be to ensure credible devolution of powers at the earliest.

Mukherjee also called up Australian Foreign Minister Stephen Smith to convey deep condolences and sympathies to the families of the deceased and victims of the bushfires in the State of Victoria and expressed India's readiness to provide any assistance in the disaster relief and management that Australia may require. "

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NOLTTE=Peace said...

There should not be any ethnicity based measures in Sri Lanka. It would be a start of another phase of the conflict.

We should move forward in a national setting as " One Sri Lanka".

No special treatment to anyone based on ethnicity.

Any Sri Lankan should be able to live anywhere in Sri Lanka without any fear.

.. and 'what is the 'problem' to implement a 'solution'?

No one is describing what the so called 'problem' is.

They all prescribe 'solutions' even without defining or identifying the 'problem'.

What is the 'problem' that the Tamils have, which is not common to the others?

The maximum someone would tell is, we have a 'language problem'!

So it is a Language Problem, and it does not need all the political measures. It would need teaching languages to people.

MayilRavana මයිල් රාවන said...

Moshe and others,
I hope you don't mind my previous rant about core Buddhist philosophy. I guess its relevance here is that you can be "Buddhist" but evidently "sin" such as enjoying good old "Kama" or even "Kill". In these situations the "Buddhist" is merely seeing through his (and other's) Karma (kamma).

In the case of the LTTE and Diasporic enemies of Lanka their actions were so intensely deep (in a vile way) that the consequences have been met within a life-time (dittha-dhamma-vedanīya kamma).

"Sin" is a western concept. For Buddhists it is not "punishment". The consequences are inevitable. Once you have taken a step there is no going back. Furthermore, according to what I have enunciated, as time is an illusion, everything is just a pattern of an intereconnecting, chaotic equation. The fact of the presence of Damila-Sinhala conflict just is and each has required the other to fulfill the pattern. Hopefully, we are now beginning to experience the emergence of an evoloving pattern of "Good" Kamma.

Ananda-USA said...

My Comments on Devolution of powers in Lanka only way out: Pranab

Comment #1:

"ExpressBuzz.com Editorial states "The truth is that Sri Lanka is a sovereign nation and neither India nor anyone else has a right to interfere in what is essentially an internal matter." Then it asserts that "There is no doubt whatsoever that New Delhi has a duty to guarantee the Tamils of Sri Lanka." These two statements are CONTRADICTORY. If the second duty is to be FULFILLED, then the first truth must be VIOLATED! If these CONTRADICTORY PRINCIPLES are applied to India by PAKISTAN & BANGLADESH on behalf of over 200 million Indian Moslems, and by CHINA on behalf of the Mongoloid peoples of the Northeastern and Northwestern states of India, the INTEGRITY & SOVEREIGNTY of INDIA will be at RISK. INDIA HAS NO DUTY TO TAMILS IN SRI LANKA...THAT IS THE SOLE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE SOVEREIGN NATION OF SRI LANKA."

Comment #2:

"I am all for "Political Solutions" with terrorists: First in India, then in Sri Lanka. That is why I VEHEMENTLY criticize the Indian security forces attack on the MUMBAI TERRORISTS. These are FREEDOM FIGHTERS with legitimate grievances...aren't they? The Indian Govt should have NEGOTIATED a PEACEFUL AGREEMENT with them...isn't that so? Hey, if they were demanding an INDEPENDENT JAMMU & KASHMIR...GIVE IT TO THEM, after all every community, no matter how small, has the right of SELF-DETERMINATION...don't they? By confronting the Mumbai terrorists, INDIA's security forces PROVOKED THEM and DELIBERATELY INFLICTED civilian casualties. What, the terrorists gunned down innocent people, you say? Well, we have to break SOME EGGS in an independence struggle, DON'T WE? BOYS, will be BOYS. Forgive them, don't be harsh. Now, about the civilian casualties caused by the SECURITY forces...Quite REPREHENSIBLE, Don't you think? Reductio Ad Absurdum!"

Comment #3:

Good NEIGHBOURLINESS Between NATIONS: Pakistan & Bangladesh have NO DUTY to MOSLEMS in India...That is the SOLE RESPONSIBILITY of the SOVEREIGN NATION of India. India has NO DUTY to TAMILS in Sri Lanka...That is the SOLE RESPONSIBILITY of the SOVEREIGN NATION of Sri Lanka. SOVEREIGN Pakistan & Bangladesh have a DUTY to PROTECT SOVEREIGN India from ATTACKS by controlling their MOSLEM citizens. SOVEREIGN India has a DUTY to PROTECT SOVEREIGN Sri Lanka from ATTACKS by controlling their TAMIL citizens. DO UNTO OTHERS AS YOU WOULD HAVE THEM DO UNTO YOU!"

Comment #4:

"Sri Lanka is the homeland of all of its people, not part by part, but as a whole. There is no place in Sri Lanka for a Tamil-only racist mono-ethnic apartheid state of Eelam. Separatism is a disease peculiar to India, now at work unraveling the fabric binding together Indians of different races, religions, languages and castes. Please don't export your incurable diseases to Sri Lanka. Keep them hidden at home in India, particularly in Tamil Nadu. You have largely rejected the compassionate teachings of your greatest son, the Lord Gautama Buddha, and of those great unifiers Dharma-Asoka and Mahatma Gandhi. Discrimination of all forms is endemic in India while your people are left illiterate, and destitute by your rabble-rousing leaders. Yet, you presume to be qualified to preach to Sri Lanka, where with the sole exception of the Eelam struggle spawned by India, we have made great progress in achieving social equity among our people. What HYPOCRISY! Heal thyself first, India!"

MayilRavana මයිල් රාවන said...

Ananda_USA,
Hey bro. Very good points about Raman. He is a snake but fortunately I doubt if he has much influence on Indian politics any more. He is just bitter about his failed project. The guy (like Indira) cannot understand that there is no such thing as loyalty to just one friend when one has more than one.

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