There is mass speculation regarding the number of civilians trapped inside LTTE areas. Human Rights groups who make a living out of such situations have claimed that 250-000 (MSF) to 300,000 (AI Report) civilians are trapped in these areas. How these organizations arrived at these figures is a mystery, or is it?
A careful observation of these agencies' information extraction process reveals that there is much to be desired in terms of their methodology for getting at the 'truth'. This is because the exact number of civilians trapped in those areas is not known even by the military. There has not been a census conducted in those areas in two decades. The Army's best guesstimates puts the number around 100,000 civilians at the most.
So how do these organizations gather their information?
When it comes to the collection of information from 'the other side', there has been a practice by these organizations, even diplomatic missions, of hiring or networking either directly or indirectly with Tamil nationals residing both in Colombo and in the Districts. This is based on the idea that they have better access and therefore better information about the Tamils in the said area.
The issue of natural bias is often overlooked as a result of high expectation for professionalism from the said officers. These networks are maintained by a 'local operation' meaning a small office/s maintained in Sri Lanka by a group of expatriates and their local employees. The major sources of these organizations are as follows:
- Political affairs officers of embassies/High Commissions who rely on Tamil journalists from mainly the print media (Thinakkural etc)
- Tamil nationals attached to NGOs/INGOs/UN agencies both at the head quarters and district level (ICRC, SLRC, Local 'Civil Society' and Human Rights Groups)
- Tamil nationals attached to various Ministries (Ministry of Rehabilitation etc)
- Expatriate staff of NGOs/INGOs/UN who meet randomly at Colombo's favourite watering holes (These expatriate officers disseminate information gathered through local staff)
- Local officers/district staff obtain information through their own networks of Tamil journalists/Grama Niladhari etc. Some may have an opportunity to interview returning civilians.
- Sinhala journalists who get tidbits from friends in the Military
1. The area of contention has shrunk. One can cover the area under LTTE control with one's thumb on a map of Sri Lanka.
2. No rebel 'administration' exist, hence there cannot be accurate estimates even if they tried
3. Civilian and civil administration, interaction and communication systems within the area and connection to the outside world has ceased and replaced primarily by an LTTE Military communication system, which is naturally biased.
4. Returning civilians may have an 'idea' of the numbers displaced but it is by far inaccurate and limited to their immediate experience/individual networks/capacity.
5. Quality and capacity of the information gatherers and their methods are highly questionable. Many local journalists are part-time regional reporters and are untrained. Members of the networks providing ad hoc information are not trained professionals.
6. No scientific surveys are possible. Access to the areas under LTTE control, even the No FIRE ZONE is denied by the Tigers (though access to government IDP centers are allowed).
The repercussions of this failed systems of reporting on humanitarian conditions in the Vanni are numerous. These include:
1. 'Naming and shaming' the government based on inaccurate information backfires on the agencies themselves and their networks
2. Wide-spread animosity and antagonism towards functioning and sometimes useful civil society groups
3. Credibility and standards of practice of international humanitarian agencies get eroded
4. Defaming of Sri Lanka- defaming of a democratically elected government or its people supporting a military solution is sometimes tantamount to defaming the entire nation, particularly in the west
5. Based on the 'established credibility' of these agencies and their reports, international media continues to defame our nation and its right to defend itself
6. These falsifications strengthen the separatist ideology of the Diaspora pro-LTTE groups resulting in taxation of Tamils living in the west, self-immolation by misled individuals, diplomatic stand-offs (Indian Central Govt-Tamil Nadu and Sri Lanka) and finally;
7. Strengthening the hand of Tamil ultra nationalists hell-bent on eternal perpetuation of hatred and subsequently a 'Round-2' of the fight.
8. Undue external interference in the conflict- The reports issued by these agencies put undue pressure on the state actor whereas it is the non-state actor that is holding the civilians against their will. In fact, thousands of Tamils attempting to reach government controlled areas at south Puthukudirippu were fired at (some killed) and subsequently driven out to Mathalang, general area north of Puthukudirippu recently.
It is therefore only natural for these agencies to now take stock of their methodologies, particularly in Sri Lanka. We would strongly urge them to do so and go as far as saying that we would even offer our services in reaching out for the truth.
dA & DW
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{Ape bhasawen liyanne kohomada?
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ne ban matath danaganna ona
Uncommon bravery
57-4 Brigade was able to capture the upper area of Udayarkattukulam tank and eliminate the LTTE’s obstructions to the advancing forces.
This was also the main and final obstacle facing the SF, on their forward march to Pudukudyiruppu. The 8th Infantry Regiment under Lt. Col. Ipshitha Dissanayaka, coming under the 57-4 Brigade under Lt. Col. Senaka Wijesuriya, overcame this challenge within 48 hours and advanced about 1.5 kilometres.
The operation that commenced at about 6.15 am on Monday (9), to break down the defence line of bunkers and trenches in an area of about one kilometer, continued till night.
The SF marched across this area with an open stretch of about 300 metres, despite the LTTE’s intense gunfire.
The following day (10), the advancing Infantry Regiments, with the help of the armoured cars, captured the entire area. Seventeen terrorists had been killed in confrontations on the first day.
Cpl Wijeratne of the Delta team of the 8th Infantry Regiment was promoted Sgt and LCpl Disanayaka as Cpl in the battlefield itself, by the Brigade Commander, for the leading role played by the two men in the entire operation.
59 Brigade under Brig. Nandana Udawatta was proceeding from Pudukudyiruppu East and from the direction of Mullaitivu.
The military defence line, which had been strategically pulled back three kilometers, during the short-lived LTTE offensive on January 31, has now been restored by the valiant forces.
The 7th GW under Lt. Col. Chaminda Lamahewa faced the brunt of the Tiger assault that day. However, the officers and soldiers of the regiment fought till the very end.
However, 33 military personnel including Maj. Kamal Nanayakkara laid down their lives during the battle. When intense fighting erupted, Cpl Pushpakumara requested his senior officers to fall back with the remaining men, while he went forward, armed with claymore mines and blasted himself among the enemy.
“Sir, you all move back with the others, and let me die with them,” he had told his fellow men, before carrying out the daring deed. There were many valiant men among the forces, during this major counterattack by the LTTE.
The LTTE’s attempt to push back the military defence line to Oddusudan, by deploying suicide attackers and combat groups, was foiled by the Special Forces Squadron under Maj. Kosala Wijeratne. He led his squad, determined to fight to the last soldier. Maj. Gen. Jagath Dias who supervised the battle, praised him then and there, for his battlefield prowess.
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another fantastic article by ramanie de zoyza.
a masterpiece!
from lankaweb.
"British Tamils are Britain’s problem, Mr Brown; NOT Sri Lanka’s!
Ramanie de Zoysa
British Prime Minister Gordon Brown had rotten egg splattered across his face last week over his unilateral decision to appoint a special ‘envoy’ to Sri Lanka. His indecent proposal boomeranged on him before he could say ‘Des Browne’; what with Sri Lanka reminding Britain again that Sri Lanka is no longer a colony and Britain is no longer the Great British Empire where the sun never set! This must serve as a reminder for Mr Brown as well as other heads of influential Western countries such as Canada, US, Norway, Germany, Switzerland, Australia and New Zealand that the bogus Tamil refugee population their countries have given ‘refuge’ to during the past 25 years are now theirs to keep! This group have falsified their immigration documents, shed crocodile tears at immigration interviews and lied through their teeth, fed their media with false propaganda, collected funds and channelled it through to the LTTE kitty to procure arms against the Sovereign State of Sri Lanka.
These are sworn enemies of Sri Lanka who have rescinded their Sri Lankan citizenship both legally and morally, in favour of a new identity and as such are aliens to Sri Lanka. As the LTTE is lying at the doors of death beaten by the superior military and tactical capability of the Sri Lankan Armed Forces this group is trying to use their adoptive governments as cat’s paw to secure that “Eelaam” which is fast disappearing through Prabhakaran’s very fingers much like MIA’s Grammy hopes to the rap tune of Paper Planes. Dancing to the tune of this group of fraudsters is bound to end up with similar embarrassment all around and a souring of good relations.
The British Tamil Forum (BTF) is the political arm of the LTTE based in Britain who subscribe implicitly and explicitly to the LTTE’s goal of Eelaam. Their existence came into prominence being the movers and shakers of Eelaam movement in Britain holding several strings that moved Downing Street Eelaam-way especially after the death of the harbinger of death himself, Anton Balasingham. The strings that connect the BTF to the British Parliament are several MPs; some possibly in the payroll of LTTE and others through sheer constipation caused by slow-fed bulldust about a traditional Tamil Homeland in Sri Lanka, Sinhala Buddhists chauvinists and genocide against Tamils by this very bogus refugee constituents. This is the movement that fed Gordon Brown with the cow dung that caused him his verbal diarrhoea about the need for a ceasefire and a immediate ‘political package to the Tamils’, with stinking consequences.
The problem with these foreign Governments is that they are either unable or unwilling to understand that lobby groups such as BTF are there to do just that- to Lobby! People ‘lobby’ for what they want; what they want may not always converge with what they are entitled to get. These Governments must have the intelligence to take such lobby with a pinch of salt and do the necessary research before jumping into action which sometimes lands them where angels fear to tread- such as where PM Brown landed.
There are other problems too. These Western Governments fail to ask the obvious questions starting from the immigration application right through to the lobby in Parliament. For instance, a teary eyed Tamil doctor or an engineer who qualified in Sri Lanka before getting on the refugee boat to Britain recounting horrific stories of Sinhala chauvinist discrimination, denial of opportunity, Sinhala Buddhist violence and genocide raises no questions in the minds of immigration officials or the Parliamentarians about how he/she received a first class qualification from a Sri Lankan Government funded University free of charge despite discrimination and persecution along ethnic lines; any tertiary student in the UK would be paying thousands of pounds in fees for the same qualification. The Westerners have no clues about the wealthy Colombo 6 or 7 address they give in the application nor do they know that the school they studied in is either a top class secular school in Colombo or a State funded Tamil Maha Vidyalam with the best of facilities available in the country. These Westerners do not study the history, geography or demography of Sri Lanka- if they did they would not miss the historical evidence that Sri Lanka has been country with a core Sinhala Buddhist culture and civilisation where several other ethnicities and religions have thrived with complete patronage from Sinhala Buddhists.
They would not miss that most of the Tamils have prospered in parts of Sri Lanka other than the North and the East they claim as a ‘traditional homeland’. After all Professor Hoole in his speech to the Canadian Tamil Diaspora so eloquently stated how the Tamils would be loathe to lose their prime real estate and businesses on ‘fire sales’ in the so-called ‘South’ (parts of Sri Lanka other than North and East) should Tamil Eelaam were to be created ceding from Sri Lanka. These Western Governments should be aware of the South Indian roots of the Sri Lankan Tamils and the pressure of cessation in Tamil Nadu that overflows into Sri Lanka through the Sri Lankan Tamils to agitate for separation. They should be aware of the full range freedoms available to the Tamils to live, study, prosper in the best areas of Colombo and the rest of the country and should be aware of the absolute absence of Sinhala people in the Northern Province.
They should know the history of the Northern Province, at least since colonial times. Britain, more than any other country should know that in 1815 the Kadyan Treaty was signed between Britain and ‘Sinhale’; not Ceylon or Sri Lanka. They should be aware that on the 29 January 1830 upon the questioning by Colbrooke Commission the Collector of Jaffnapatam (Jaffna now) confirmed that there were no statistics of the inhabitants in Jaffnapatam as the population was not static but transient- inhabited by wanderers of no specific ethnicity. Britain should find it interesting that by 14 May 1976 Jaffna had become the 3000 year old “traditional Tamil Homeland” where Tamil lodges were being erected atop ruined Buddhist places of worship or on places of archaeological importance belonging to the Sinhala civilisation.
After all this is why Governments operate embassies in foreign lands- to know what really goes on and report back to their Governments. When the foreign embassies are infiltrated with moles of the LTTE this reporting process is corrupted and we get the kind of atrocious situation where the lobbyists prevail over the truth and common sense.
Without Sri Lanka as the sucker, the Tamil Eelaam is a spent force. Agents of LTTE are subsequently a redundant force. Commander Sarath Fonseka and his troops are not fighting at the risk of their lives to have ‘ceasefire’ shoved down Sri Lanka’s throat by any one. They are not fighting so that Tamils can have a so-called “solution” at the expense of everyone else. They are fighting for the dignity of the Sinhala Nation and all its various time-honoured ethnic counterparties. Cmdr Fonseka is well aware that Sri Lanka had the dubious pleasure of being picked instead of India to be the stage for the creation of a mythical Tamil Eelaam simply because Sri Lanka was the weakest link in terms of military capabilities; and, he has taken steps to remedy that. He is on record saying that in addition to the 200,000 strong Armed Forces he wants another 100,000 recruited and trained that will form a formidable ‘peacetime’ force. A force I would say will prevent any other dog contemplating on reliving itself in this patch.
As I said at the beginning Premier Brown, British Tamils are yours to keep! They are persona no grata in Sri Lanka and are not eligible to make any input into how Sri Lanka will be governed. Nor will you be tolerated in meddling on their behalf! "
last mile,
that means you are probably telling the truth!!!
lol!
try using another name, another email and another TP number.
NOLTTE : "We can not handle the scale of anti-Sri Lankan false propaganda unleashed by LTTE at this critical moment, without the help of a professional PR body.
It is time that various SL diplomatic missions actively participate in projecting the truth about Sri Lanka.
All these diplomats and secretaries can form a world wide real-time proactive network through secured Internet links.
I’m sure we can easily handle PR world-wide, but right peoples should pilot the thing. Better spend that money to form local people.
When the German Govt was preparing to invite Indian IT experts for immediate needs, the opposition shot down the move with the motto « Kinder statt Inder (Our children before Indians) >> . The German Govt is now embarked on a program to orient young Germans towards expertise in IT thus making it self-sufficient in strategic areas in coming years..
Moshe,
I tried several.. no luck yet.
But I am not giving up ;-)
When our diplomatic missions have no idea about the Sri Lankan identity what missions are they performing?
We need clear Samma Dhitti & Samma Sangkappa( right vision & right concepts ) of ourselves before embarking on any thing.
The village boys have certain residual ideas about the Sri Lankan identity and they do miracles.
Having a clear concept of our purpose - Sri Lanka’s reason to be - is the most important subject related to our defence.
I wish some people will try to understand why I insisted on understanding the Anathma concept.
Sri Wikramarajasingha killed Mayadunne because he knew nothing about interdependence. And the folly continues …
I agree, this is not a subject for those who are crazy about money … if you are 100% business, better join RW.
JWick,
What did you ask?
[MathaMathica
When our diplomatic missions have no idea about the Sri Lankan identity what missions are they performing?]
Most diplomats are the bootlickers of Sri Lankan politicians. Their mission is to make their pocket fat and teaching their children.
Bootlickers are selfish people and they think of themselves first than a country.
On the other hand, we as a general public value them for who they are than what they deliver. So, we can't really blame diplomats without blaming ourselves first.
When people in other nations are bound together by true patriotism and national development, we are bound together by corruption. Corruption is the single thread that has connected each and every one of us.
We like the person next to us since that person knows someone who knows police of a politician. We like ambassadors since they know politicians who can get our car through customs without paying high price tax or bribes.
People often talk about being a patriot on this blog and even call each other patriots. The true patriot is the one who takes a carton of books through Sri Lankan ports to our poor children and still feel good about the country after bribing officials with thousands of rupees.
Last Mile said...
My comments on DM never got published. :-(
Some of my comments also suffered the same fate. Either they are rejecting unfavourable comments or they are pathetically inefficient!
In Tamileelam nation self mortification is known as the ultimate sacrifice.
Moda Bandas havent reached that level of spiritual attainment yet.
Peter,
Did I ask you anything?
[Well said Mathematica
NOLTTE : "We can not handle the scale of anti-Sri Lankan false propaganda unleashed by LTTE at this critical moment, without the help of a professional PR body.
It is time that various SL diplomatic missions actively participate in projecting the truth about Sri Lanka.
All these diplomats and secretaries can form a world wide real-time proactive network through secured Internet links.]
Well said... I think it also constitute to the fact right now we are winning the war... and their tails are on fire and they are despearate... and which makes them try harder...
most of the work have been done before the war to cut the LTTE networks so must give credits to foreign diplomats to their work... but now perception is that because of the strong leadership shown against in Sri Lanka external influence to change the course outcome is minimal...
so I think most people are less relentless in their efforts but waiting till the war is over for a PR campaign world wide... and tourism minstry doing a damn good job
but as war drags on it gives fuel to LTTE propaganda machine... so should not let guard down
[Really Cold
People often talk about being a patriot on this blog and even call each other patriots. The true patriot is the one who takes a carton of books through Sri Lankan ports to our poor children and still feel good about the country after bribing officials with thousands of rupees.]
LOOL Life is about connections... people you know...
we are not living in Utopia unfortunately...
pete
if u r in US good morning
if UK good evening
pete
do u think VP will reach that 'ultimate attainment' soon with his son
Moda bandas suprime attainment is 'Nibbana' I think it is far more difficult than comit suicide
Gladiator,
Dawas keepayakata issella ekkenek kiyala thibuna. Hoyaganna amarui. kawda kiyala mathakath nehe. Hondama wadey ehema liyana ekkenekgen ahanna. mamath balannam.
JWic
done
...
ade pete gen ahamu
just a joke man... haha
Last mile,
Ape bhasawen liyanne kohomada?
Karunakara kiyanawada tharaha wenne nethuwa?
Gladiator,
Aththateyi kiyala hithala tharahath giya. Passe baluwa fake ekek da kiyala. EElanga post eka dekkahamai hina giye!
UPFA wins a landslide victory in Central and Northwestern Provinces
It is the time to extend the great General George S. Patton's words to Sri Lankan context.
George S. Patton's Dictum:
No bastard ever won a war by dying for his country. He won it by making the other poor dumb bastard die for his country.
Sam Perera's Dictum:
No bastard ever won an election by insulting the majority. He won it by acting according to the will of the majority.
Peter,
How can it be a "spiritual" attainment? In that case pouring kerosene over any other heap of rubbish and setting fire is also a spiritual attainment!! Ha Ha Ha !!
xD
JWick
http://www.ucsc.cmb.ac.lk/ltrl/services/feconverter/t1.html
mey tool eken puluwan
LOL @JWick
meeken ape basawa liyanna puluwan
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/6404
"Sam Perera's Dictum:
No bastard ever won an election by insulting the majority. He won it by acting according to the will of the majority."
To be consistent, I think it should be
"............... He won it by letting the other poor bastard insult the will of the majority"
Thanks SANERCOMIC, I'll try!
JWick
meyka thiyana thenata yanna!!!
http://www.ucsc.cmb.ac.lk/ltrl/services/feconverter/t1.html
Thanks to you as well, Jay.
බොහොම ස්තුතීය්
Once again my heartfelt gratitude goes to Peter Pan and other terrorst financiers for their contribution to SL militray infrastructre.
New security plan to stop LTTE’s resurgence-Nation.lk
JWick,
"To be consistent, I think it should be"
Any modifications are most welcome.
Cheers!
Gladiator,
Meke kombui alapili paapili liyaenne weradi than walata ne? Kiyawanna giyama tharamak upset!
JWick
මොකක්ද පාවිච්චි කරන්නෙ UCSC එකද
කොටල කොටල තමයි හොයාගන්න ඔනා
Appointing an Envoy for the Sri Lanka was "a disrespectful intrusion".
Appointing Des Brown as that Envoy was "an Insult".
I fear soon or later SL will have some form of foreign "peace keeping" force or some foreign envoy to keep an eye on the escalating HR issues.
GOSL can shout from the roof tops till the cows come home. Its just a matter of time.
The IC is not going to sit and watch. I reckon in the next three months some serious arm twisting is coming around.
Unless ofcourse GOSL allow foreign observers and media to visit the conflict zone.
Mark my words it will happen.
The war against the terrorist is won but Peace is a long way off.
http://www.lankanewspapers.com/news/2009/2/39443_space.html
Have you ever heard of a human being `tagged` to die, brimming with hopes of living? Have you ever heard of a youth, who was to blow himself into pieces, smiling and talking very freely? `Suraj`, a human bomb, until a few days ago, has all the qualities of a disciplined youth. The fair skinned youth of 22-years, now loves his life more than anything else on this earth. He simply wants to live to see his `appa, amma and akka`.
Pic : Thilak Perera
The LTTE kidnapped me on my way to the tuition class. Then I was ordered to attend a LTTE political meeting and taken away to Pawalan base in Kilinochchi while I was pleading to go home , says Suraj who is prompt in relating about his former life - as a forcibly recruited schoolboy, a trained LTTE cadre, a Black Tiger and finally a suicide diver, who was assigned to a special mission by the LTTE Sea Tiger leader Soosai to stop the troops capturing the tiny wedge of land under LTTE domination.
Looking at Suraj and listening to him no one will believe that this charming youth was so lethal and had the courage to blow himself into pieces for an unworthy cause.
Born to a middle class family in Nallur, Jaffna, he was always well looked after by his father, a clerk. Suraj passed his O/L with two As, five Bs and three Cs. He dreamt of becoming a banker and had decided to study Commerce at Stanley College.
For the next six months, Suraj`s home was the LTTE camp in Irumbarei in Mullaitivu. Like Suraj, there were hundreds of girls and boys who were abducted by the LTTE. There were underaged children and when they were crying and pleading to go, the senior LTTE cadres at the base assaulted them or punished them , he recalls.
The best lot were selected to be Sea Tigers and given three-month training on military operations in the Sea. Suraj was also trained to swim long distances and also selected to the LTTE`s medical unit.
After a pin drop silence, the tall youth who is silent upto now, starts his story that made him a LTTE human bomb. If you see `Vimu` you will blame those who call him a suicide cadre. The reality is that he does not look like a suicide cadre, that we pictured in our mind.
A timid and soft spoken youth, he is shy. Why did you decide to kill yourself? I ask. Sapida (to eat) he says and I repeat the question to clarify the answer that I heard. The reply again is the same. Tears stream down his face. Yes, the youth who is motivated to kill and blow himself, is crying.
Struggled
Being a fisherman, Vimu`s father struggled to feed the family of eight, and his meagre daily catch was not enough to feed all mouths at home. Boys and girls used to survive with a single meal. With the LTTE`s `human tax`, a member from each family, Vimu decided to join the outfit. I did not join to fight for a separate land for Tamils, but to ease the burden for my father. I thought I would not die of hunger , he reveals.
The causes for Suraj and Vimu, the Sea Tigers to end their lives, are different. Suraj became a human bomb after seeing and hearing the false propaganda by the LTTE about bombings, killings and assaulting the Tamils by the Sri Lankan military.
But Vimu was motivated to become a human bomb the day he saw the dead body of his girl friend - a Sea Tiger, who was sent for an attack in Weli-Oya. We thought we could take revenge by exploding ourselves by killing our enemies. They say that from the day one of the training they were taught a single mantra - Sinhalese and Sinhala Army are enemies. We know nothing about the Sinhalese and Sinhala military, all those born after 1983 were brain-washed to kill Sinhalese.
Watching films and documentaries produced by the LTTE was part of their daily schedule and the two youth had sought permission from the LTTE leader Prabhakaran to become Black Tigers. The Black Tigers are treated as a special lot and are not allowed to have contacts with the family and society. After death, Black Tigers are venerated. They will be honoured within the outfit and also in the eyes of the public. The last resting place of the Black Tigers are granite tombstones and shrines built in their memory.
Not only the Black Tigers, but their families are venerated by the outfit and looked after well after their deaths. I believed that the LTTE will look after my poor and old parents and also my sisters and brothers after my death. I do not think that I can give the things that the LTTE promised to give my family after my death. I thought my death will bring fortune to them , says Vimu. His voice shivers.
The LTTE does not spare the orphaned and abandoned children and also the poor females who are sick and have faced tragedies. They are exploited to become human bombs and trained in jungle hideouts, which were heavily guarded and shut to the outside world. The inmates are only allowed to watch LTTE documentaries and films about combat operations where death was shown as a heroic act. Soosai has informed them that they had been selected to the Black Tiger squad, which is the suicide wing of the LTTE`s naval arm.
In November 2008, we passed out as Black Tigers at a ceremony held at Iranapallei LTTE base in Puthukudyirruppu where Prabhakaran, Soosai, Banu, Lakshman, Charles Anthony, Madiwani, Prabhakaran`s daughter and the youngest son Balachandran participated to honour us. Public was not allowed to come in , they, who were recently recruited as Black Tigers of the LTTE`s newly established unit - Gange Ameran Neeradi Neeruchchi Neechchalairrugu (Underwater explosion unit) named in honour of the former Sea Tiger leader Gange Ameran, say.
To sacrifice
They say that Prabhakaran had said that he did not want to use the Black Tigers much because their lives were so precious. He instructed us to be ready to sacrifice our lives when all other tactics had failed, to defend their military missions , they go on.
The LTTE Leader clad in LTTE uniforms had the last supper - string hoppers, mutton, brinjol and ice cream - with them. We were checked thoroughly. The LTTE cadres checked even our belts, shoes and hair , reveal Suraj and Vimu who were photographed with their leader, who always said that the LTTE was winning.
Last January 20 was their D-day, the day on which they started on their `long walk for freedom`. We were taken to Vishuwamadu where Soosai and Prabhakaran`s son Charles Anthony, the Head of LTTE`s IT unit, explained how best they could explode the Iranamadu tank bund, which is the largest irrigational tank in Vanni. They planned to place four 25kg weighing `limpet` mines to blast the Sluice gates. The entire area would be under water for a week and it would kill over 5,000 soldiers. It was to stop the military operation to capture Vanni. Dinesh Master, who led the mission, said that once it was exploded 300 cadres and Sea Tiger boats would attack the troops . The two Black Tigers were given necessary equipment including three magnetic sea mines (25 kilo of each).
On January 24, Suraj, Vimu and another Black Tiger crept through the FDLs in Visuwamadu, but they abandoned the mission as the troops of the 17 Gajaba Regiment, attached to the 57 Division attacked them. The two informed Soosai about the failure but he ordered them to carry out the mission.
Suraj, who was forcibly recruited and misled, planned to surrender but felt scared as he did not know the thoughts of his colleague. But as they were again ordered to expedite the attack and blow themselves they started the mission again. We swam for over three kilometres, but the two military boats which were doing patrol around the tank, shot at us. I determined to surrender then , Suraj said.
Both felt the need of living. But both were scared of each other to tell each other about their `mission to live`. Suraj talked to Vimu and both agreed to drop their mission to commit suicide, and to start a new journey to enjoy living. I know if I abandoned the mission and went back, the LTTE will deploy me in the FDLs as a punishment. So I decided to surrender and told Vimu that there is no reason to die young. Surprisingly, he also felt the same and we both dumped the explosives and diving kits, and entered the A9 road to surrender to the Army , recalls Suraj who was trained to swim over five kilometres without wearing diving kits, and also capable in diving 300 feet deep in the sea. Sitting next to these two human bombs, I feel scary as I know that their commitment is scary and they don`t have sympathy for anyone. They know only about their mission to kill as much as they can to take revenge by exploding themselves to maximize the damage to their targets.
Starting from so-called LTTE Captain Miller, who drove an explosives-laden truck the LTTE used hundreds of young boys and girls to blow their bodies into pieces. Suraj and Vimu say that the LTTE used poverty and anger to recruit more Black Tigers. Though there are no official figures about the total number of LTTE suicide cadres, Suraj and Vimu say that there are over 500 Black Tigers with the outfit. I want to study banking , says Suraj and Vimu wants to become a good fisherman to follow in his father`s footsteps. They also have hopes to go home soon and look after their old parents. The two youth, full of skills as fine divers, have new hopes other than their childhood dreams. That is to become good divers not to explode themselves to generate disaster or blood shed, but to excavate the hidden marine treasures around the country.
Suraj and Vimu finally say that they who were trained to see blood and motivated to take their own lives to kill as much as they can, are now learning the ABC of living`. Their only request to the LTTE human bombs who are still in line to activate to create a disaster, is to drop their missions and surrender to live long. Eelam is only a dream. We know there is a world outside the LTTE, they say in unison.
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so
What's GOSL so afraid of for independent observers or even for a to start allow foreign media to visit conflict zones.
Perhaps, even allow GOSL friendly (are there any?)foreign media to report independently.
There is more to meet the eye here.
Jay,
What you are taking about will be a non-issue in a few weeks since there won't be any hostages under LTTE. IC can cry till cows come home until then.
තවත් ජෙ කියල එකෙක් ඉන්නවා, ඒ මම නෙමෙයි
ඌ ගොන් කතා කියන ත්රස්තයෙක්
Jay,
are there any independent media reporting on tamilnet?
If you want transparency it has to apply to both sides equally. It seems that all restrictions should be on GOSL while LTTP is free to go do as they please, blow up, kill civilians and terrorise in general.
Doesnt work that way my friend, that was in the past.
Sam P
Thats exactly when the problem begins.
The northern tamils having lived under the tyranny of LTTE look upon the sinhalese and armed forces as their enemy.Because the past 20 years they have not known anything different. They have not lived with the sinhalese. Likewise the armed forces will not trust the northern tamils.
Refugee camps become a minefield.
I hasten to add like concentration camps.
The SL GOSL has lost all credibility to deal with this issue when they dont even allow foreign observers.
It wont suprise me UN will be invited sooner or later.
With regard to the UK envoy, MR knew it was in hand but chose to ignore it.
GOSL will back down on the UK envoy!!
Tamil Net is rubbish similiar to Asian Tribune and Lankaweb.
Jay said...
What's GOSL so afraid of for independent observers
wrong again, GOSL is not afraid, it has no reason to but LTTE has all reasons to be afraid being a proscribed as aterrorist organisation all around the world.
GOSL is controlling media access to stop inexperienced journos, the typical ones sent out to asian countries, creating cheap reporting with no substance. They have been very successful so far.
Israel did the same in Gaza, US did the same in Iraq. Its nothing new.
But it is true that GOSL censored reporting has been very one sided. I specially do not like it when they use the privileges to score points against opposition.
However, i have to admit TamilNet although they publish pure fiction they do not attack or question news agencies or their writers or question the integrity of these people however distasteful the news may be to them.
Whilst, Asian Tribune and Lankaweb first attack the writer, news agency without countering the arguements.
eg being HLD Mahindapala, Ramanie , Asoka Weerasinghe to name a few.
I read these letters or varticles and think why on earth are you attacking the agency/writer when you should be countering the arguements with facts.
Actually its quite amusing some letters in Lankaweb/Asian Tribune- no wonder they are not taken seriously like the TamilNet
Jay said...
Northern tamils having lived under the tyranny of LTTE look upon the sinhalese and armed forces as their enemy.
Jay,
Please explain what you mean. Jaffana tamils are quite pro GOSL having lived under LTTE for decades now they are tasting the freedom and better quality of life under GOSL. Did you not see how many times they protested over the last few months against LTTE by the thousands?
oh Common Jay
If GOSL has no reason to be afraid why not allow idependent media to report?
Inexperienced Journos? You know that is rubbish.
I agree transparency should be from both sides. Infact the LTTE has lot more to lose than GOSL.
Maybe then we would have learnt that it was indeed the LTTE that was bombing its own people and not GOSL bombing hospitals.
Jay
Some times, you have to be tough. I am sure nowadays "corporal punishment" is banned :-) But I remember I have been through.
So what is your advice.
oops! One more, how come there are more serial killers in west than here!. No Media freedom?
we need to think from beginning mates!!
If I have missed!!
We need to understand the world is with different views, but all cannot work or agree, some need to buy the others view or agree with them.
Not because the others are right! but because, otherwise you will extinct :-)
(Did you not see how many times they protested over the last few months against LTTE by the thousands?)
Jay- You seriously want me to believe the above coming from the state media similiar to the situation in the East.Please explain better quality of life in Jaffna (no doubt much better than living under the tyranny of VP).
Eastern region is a good example living now under the tyranny of a gun totting Pillayan.
Do you think it'd be easy running a war with all these journos running around? And heaven forbid if one of them get killed. Why should GOSL take such a risk when they dont have to?
I'm not denying at times civilians may get killed, its war, its being happening for 3 decades. I feel for these people who have been shifting from one place to another like a flock of sheep.
But at the same time you cant deny LTTE is using civilians as a shield so they also have to share the responsibility. There might be a few families who dont want to leave but most would cross over to GOSL areas if given the chance. Nobody believes that all these people are staying there on their own free will.
[Please explain better quality of life in Jaffna]
Children go to school
Food and fuel prices are much much affordable than under LTTE rule
They have restrictions lifted in fishing. Unemployment is a bit hight for my liking.
Not saying they are living in luxury but they seem get by okay. They've had enough of fighting they just want to be left alone.
I would classify that as better living conditions.
I wish there was a solution.
The conflict has gone on for far too long.
The Northern tamils do not trust the South and vice versa.
As i have mentioned in a previous post the northern tamils have not lived with the sinhalese. They regard the sinhalese as their enemy. They have known nothing else the past 25 odd years.
Likewise, the sinhalese in the south will not trust the tamils especially the ones from the North.
I returned from a brief trip from CMB a two weeks ago.
I'm getting bad vibes from Tamils living in the south too. The arguement that tamils are living peacefully in the south is going to wear thin very soon.
btw its not only tamils but dissenting sinhalese and muslims too.
I left the same day Gota gave that interview to Morris on BBC.
I'm against any sort of violence/terrorism especially the LTTE kind. Neither am i a fan of the GOSL for its human rights record, mis management etc.
So- under Gota definition I must be a TRAITOR. yes its official- I'm a traitor. but do i feel like one? or do i deserve to be one ?
Its laughable!
Folks I have another article on my blogspot.
Death by Fire
See if you like this, and spread it around.
Jay,
You dont have to like GOSL, you dont have to vote for them should the opportunity arise. But They are not your enemy. LTTE has done much more harm to tamil population than sinhalese SLA or GOSL. I cant understand why diaspora cant see that. LTTE has a voice, GOSL has a voice but can you say the same about normal tamil population living in north and the east? whose speaking on their behalf?
once this war is done and dusted those Tamil civilians would get food medicine and shelter.
Tamil children will get a decent education and will have a future to look forward to.
So I'd say choose your friends and foe wisely.
Folks, the full title of that article is
"Death by Fire – the Tigers’ end game"
Jay
You know how to complaint. Do you know what to do!
The reality in life is some time to do good to many, you have to do things that hurt some.
It doesn't matter what you try, you cant make everyone happy
[[[ Jay said...first
However, i have to admit TamilNet although they publish pure fiction...
then he says
Actually its quite amusing some letters in Lankaweb/Asian Tribune- no wonder they are not taken seriously like the TamilNet]]]
according to jay-
serious = pure fiction.
ha ha ha!
(They've had enough of fighting they just want to be left alone.)
Jay - all of the above you mentioned is far better than under the LTTE goons. I have to agree with you.
If you have a referendam in Jaffna for or against armed forces occupation.- What do you think the result will be?
(LTTE is using civilians as a shield so they also have to share the responsibilities)
Ltte is a banned terrorist Group. They dont have responsiblities.
GOSL is a "democratically" elected govt - They have responsibilities.
If foreign envoys (not the likes of Norway) are able to monitor the conflict areas the innocent civilians can be protected.
btw- the SL armed forces are not exactly clean either. (eg- Haiti incident is still being investigated by the Govt)
jay has misspelled his name. it starts with a "g".
ha ha ha!
In my openion Gota should never do english interviews, his english is very primitive. and you cant explain solutions to a complex problem with his vocabulary.
What he was trying to say was when there's a terrorist problem and people are being killed on a daily basis any persons that aide terrorists and talk up their side should be considered as traitors.
It was very poorly explained if at all. In short his definition of a traitor if taken literally was second to only george bush's remarks.
Vellu
Think you know what i meant.
Tamilnet, Asian Tribune and Lankaweb are in the same category.'
Cannot be taken seriously.
The letters especially from one Asoka Weerasinghe in Canada is entertaining though.
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Gota should have never given that interview.
Rajiv W is possibly the most articulate one to give such views.
No doubt bloggers have seen recent articles in The Independant.
Yet again i find comments attacking the newspaper for being biased etc and not countering the arguements.
When will people learn you not gaining anything by attacking the writers.
On Tuesday next week there is going to be a further article in the Independant regards the liberated Eastern region which should be interesting reading.
mahaveer families are paying the supreme price of helping fat pig.
people like rajiv, premadasa, kittu, mahattaya, sabaratnam & karuna among hundreds of others helped thalaivar too.
next in line - dieasspora. so dieasspora take off ur panties & bend down. it'll come sooner than later.
ha ha ha!
LTTE = terrorists therefore not accountable
GOSL = democratic therefore accountable
so how does a democratic govt fight a terrorist group? no matter what LTTE does they cant be held accountable and even if GOSL accidentally injured a civilian they should be taken to international court! Perhaps that partly explains why journos arent allowed.
I honestly dont believe GOSL is intentionally killing civilians though I suspenct many are dying as a result of getting caught up in cross fire and mistakes on govt part. But the intention is to not hurt the civilians where as you couldnt say the same about LTTE.
Sometimes when dealing with a ruthless outfit like LTTE civilians have to pay the price. Easy to say when you're not included in that population of civilians. Its sad indeed, but could you come up with a better solution?
Vellu..
tsk! tsk! Why you calling Gota gay?
You could be branded a traitor!
Rover,
Good Job
http://sanercomic.blogspot.com
sinhala writers don attack other writers in future.
just be nice to them.
tamils keep it up & be nice to writers.
BTW LTTE don stop assasinating everybody around u. keep it up.
ha ha ha!
Sam;
Lesser voter turn-up [as low as 50% in some electorates] suggests that perhaps many UNPers are not willing to vote until RW and clan leaves. They are silently waiting.
Moshe;
Did you see the response of Samansiri guy [JVP CM candidate for CP]?
"It is not a loss to JVP. We knew that the result will be like this. It is a gross mistake by people. Public lost the opportunity to receive the services of JVP. Via JVP MP fund etc, there were a lot of goodwork conducted. People will have to pay for the mistake when they are deprived of the facilities like JVP MP fund. JVP is not the looser at any point"
Shows what lies underneath the butter talks of the JVP PM mouth pieces. Wimal W was correct [at teh time of split] that they are the same ppl, not at all changed from their 1971/1988 mindset.
This Party first ppl/Country second mentality of JVP will make sure they will also not get anywhere.
Heard a minister making a very strong statement re the elections.
says' this election people kept the green flags, blue flags, reg flags and yellow flags at home and came out with the National Flag' - a very strong statement indeed
Sujeewa Kokawala,
the JVP's now funded by ravi/unp/tna club.
so they got nothing to worry about.
they don rely on member subscriptions anymore. they can afford the loose talk & show the finger to the masses.
JVP always finds external causes for their own debacles. just like LTTE.
because of popular demand
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mmm OK ..but.. well. you got to work harder if you want to get closer to tamilnet.tv keep trying mate goodluck
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LoL @ galdiator..
that was super weak armylk.. better luck next time LOl
Jay;
I disagree with few points in your prev post. I hope you wouldn't take my comment offended.
I have seen you posting against Pussycats often. But as I always say, there is nothing real in this virtual gathering beyond our ideas, so when there are mismatching ideas, it is right to raise it.
I wish there was a solution.
Another occasion of stating about a solution w/o knowing what the problem is. What is this problem?
If the problem is inability to live w/o being prejudiced and persecuted, the solution is to avoid sectarian misconduct. You cannot complain against prejudice and persecution when ppl of your sector are taking part in bad acts at the first place.
If the problem is, that some sector is expecting special treats and special rights, then there is no solution than realizing the ground truth by themselves. Special rights and special treats are no new things in the world. Ex: Jews in Israel, Arabs in arab world, Whites in their countries etc. But all of them gained the special right by force, by overwhelming other. SL tamils think that they should be granted special rights. It is like a beggar begging from me for a five star meal, while I am having an ordinary meal. This is after he first threatened me with a gun to buy it.
The conflict has gone on for far too long.
Correct. But the "problem" of the conflict is still not defined. It is not the responsibility of GOSL to define "problem". It is the responsibility of whoever sits in other side. If there is NO problem raised, why should the GOSL define an imaginary problem and solve it. Who would need tat solution?
So far every "problem" defined was imaginary, and so far every "solution" has not worked out as nobody wants it.
The Northern tamils do not trust the South and vice versa.
Fair. But this can't be changed in a short time. The best way is to interact with one another. Nothing but an ethnic mix can sort out this misunderstanding.
Likewise, the sinhalese in the south will not trust the tamils especially the ones from the North
Other than the prejudice of pussycat links, south does not hate/suspect tamils. And that prejudice is fair, given that 99% of pussycats were tamils, and almost all of them pretended as ordinary tamil civilians. You can't wage war and still expect not to be suspected.
There is a huge number of tamils living and working in colombo, some with their families and others on their own. Most of them are treated equal to Sinhala, even after some of them had worked for pussycats. Some Engineer planted bombs in buses and trains, but SL tamil engineers did not get persecuted for that.
But SLDF is extra careful with tamils. Who else do you expect them to suspect? Eskimos?
I returned from a brief trip from CMB a two weeks ago.
Most expats draw quick opinions out of "short" visits. Most of them turn out to be wrong and purely imaginary. As you know, you or me can't analyze the socio-cultural issues of Japan by visiting there for two weeks. Same applies for SL. Although it is your motherland, you lived away for long and matters have changed.
I'm getting bad vibes from Tamils living in the south too. The arguement that tamils are living peacefully in the south is going to wear thin very soon.
Didn't get this at all.
Do you mean that they have to go through extra security checks? Isn't that fair?
Once there was a tamil among some office team which waited for a late night training. As they were going in a cab, the cab was stopped at check points and was fully searched [that was past midnight]. If the tamil wasn't there it wouldn't have been. [Certainly this is a loophole in security and pussycats used this trust in Sinhala to use underworld sinhala thagas to transport weapons]. But given to limit searches, would you expect SLDF to treat sinhala and tamil even? As I said 99% pussycats were tamils and disguised as civilians. So what?
Other than this there is no such trouble they have. Certainly life is tough if you came out of Col recently. Accommodation living, food, Col in not NYC. But this type of "discrimination" is not race-specific.
I never felt a chance of 1983 repeating, if that is what you hinted. That is pure crap.
btw its not only tamils but dissenting sinhalese and muslims too.
Obviously. If Pygmies, Red Indians and Aborigines lived in SL, they would too. Everywhere in the world some ppl dissent the govt.
But most of the ppl are having a hope that MR would be a stronger leader, however wrong his policy maybe. Having a stronger leader makes some progress. For an ex, Premadasa in his mad trance left a lot of good things than CBK and RW.
I left the same day Gota gave that interview to Morris on BBC.
I think Gota shud Shut the F Up. He hasn't done a thing against maharaja. Talk talk no work. He replays CBK, who blames everyone.
If they are traitors, pls take action. Or else, don't talk. Don't talk anyway. Calling a traitor publicly before police catch him gives the traitor a chance to escape. Chevan Daniles and few other journalists left SL, didn't they?
I'm against any sort of violence/terrorism especially the LTTE kind. Neither am i a fan of the GOSL for its human rights record, mis management etc.
No one can be against "all sort of violence", as one violence essentially needs another to counter [I hope you classify offensives as "violent acts"]. I am FOR the HR violations which SLDF is compelled to take in order to eliminate pussycat threat in town. It DID work and it must have been very very accurate.
Certainly such acts are not good acts which you can preach in a religious shrine.
So- under Gota definition I must be a TRAITOR. yes its official- I'm a traitor.
Gota wasn't comprehensive. It was more of an angry statement, not the GOSL gazetted definition of a traitor.
I think you're more of a confused observer. A long way to be a good or bad contributor to the situation. A traitor is a very bad contributor, you can be that only if you wish so.
but do i feel like one? or do i deserve to be one ?
Its laughable!
Nop.
No traitor will feel like a "traitor", like no "terrorist" will call themselves so.
Nobody becomes a traitor accidentally. For an example, if I knock Gota's car by mistake injuring him, I won't be a traitor [but I expect a severe investigation on me]. But if a thaga brings explosive laden car/bike to a certain place for a suicide attack, he's a traitor.
DUZZ
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ArmyLK,
You are using the images in
http://ellalanforce.blogspot.com/
with EFT watermarks.
Did you really see the way London LTTE brain washed another innoncent kid to kill him self?
We have walked away from LTTE. If you want to fight for Tamils, walk away from LTTE and join the EFT.
NO Mahen,
Walking away from LTTE is ur problem it has nothing to do with this ArmyLK's site. Its just a community awareness site which talk about social issues . we should encourage him saying that we got the massage and we want more pleeeeas.
Des Browne's new job has also brought criticism from the political opposition in Britain.
Speaking for the Conservatives, Liam Fox, said it was a further example of Gordon Brown's incompetence as prime minister.
'Having presided over calamitous damage to our economy,' said Mr Fox, ' he is now making a complete mess of relations with friendly countries overseas.'
BBC article
Hooray for the Whigs!
These are the true English. They are the true Brit friends we have who hold their principals dear and do not bow to terrorist scum.
Cheers!
from toiletnet,
"In the process, the Sinhala majority virtually concedes the need for partition in the island, if any polity acceptable to human civilization should prevail there, said an expatriate Sinhala academic commenting on the reports of 'record victory' for Rajapaksa's ruling UPFA in the provincial elections."
so this is that same jayasuriya SAKKILIYA from australia.
bugger seems to be the new LTTE arse-licker.
bugger seems offended by the war and by the loss of PONNA ranil!!
sujeewa,
JVP is now a spent force.
for some reason,
COREL (JVP success/LTTE success)=1
this worked well when LTTE was succeeding. but when the LTTE was not succeeding JVP also went downhill.
a UNP-JVP tie up is not impossible although it won't take both idiots anywhere.
konappu,
of course, mate!!
brown and browne are not english, they are skotish!!! (with a k for koti)
lol!
Weera Puran,
That is brilliant "cyber detective work!!"
I hope there is no way for the peelamists to hack and alter that important information?
brown and browne are not english, they are skotish!!! (with a k for koti)
Moshe Dyan, dear chap:
Bloody hell, Tamil Kotiyas, Sinhala Kotiyas, and now Scottish Kotiyas!
By gad, where will this end?
Cheers!
Machan JWick,
Most of the article pictures are like that. It is possible to change image core data. But not easy and also pigs don't have enough time to do those things these days.
This is just a good example of how TamilNut cheat its readers..
Please let everyone know about this.
Thanks
Guys, TamilNut is publishig old pictures but quoting them as taken from the real incident/site.
This is how you could find it out.
1. Right click on the picture and click on "Save Picture As" in the pop up menu.
2. Now save the picture to your local hard drive.
3. Go to the local folder where you save the picture file.
4. Right click on the file and click Properties on the pop up menu.
5. Click on the Details tab now and u can see the Date taken of the picture now.
Here is an example. Click here and follow above steps.
ha haa...
JWick,
What did you ask?
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Weera Puran
It says date picture taken is 10/20/2008 at 3.11am.
But time the picture taken cannot be not 3.11am in SL, if you look at the back ground. (Its day time.)
I think this 'time picture taken' depends on the time (and day) set in camera.
There is no proof saying that the picture is genuine and also there is no (technical) proof to say it is not. This is what I think. And we know by our experience tamilnet is lying.
May be Nisal can say more.
Guys,
Why our progress is slow? We have surrounded them nine divisions and if they are fighting hard; why harvesting is less and less? Reasons can be:
1. Game is going on according to the plan but reporting is suspended!
2. Or the game has come to a stale mate rather than check mate!
Could some body shed some light here?
/Why our progress is slow?/
This part of the war is not comparable to previous stages due to
1. Civilian factor
2. LTTE has no place to withdraw.
This is almost a hostage situation.
Initial (DW/DN i.e. in turn, info got via SLA MI) estimate was 40,000 maximum tigers, including every one, makkal padai etc. As per SLA since Mavil Aru 13,000+ tigers KIA. (I don't know how many tigers WIA and out of fighting.) So remaining number is 27,000-. This may include 2000+ hardcore. Even now SLA may kill 10+ tigers per day and hardcore kill ratio may be just 1+ per day. So if the figures are correct at this rate annihilation is not possible unless some thing different happens.
GSL attempt should be removing civilians out and make all level of cadres surrender. GR statement of taking legal action against top leaders (despite amnesty for other cadres) may discourage such surrendering.
Contrary to popular belief that this final stage of war is going to be easy it is going to be the hardest part.
pete thank god u r here..
y these guys r worring to much over those photoes @ tamilnet
Ninja,
Thanks for your response.
[[Ninja said...
Weera Puran
It says date picture taken is 10/20/2008 at 3.11am.]]
Most probably, the AM/PM of the camera clock is wrong. So, it is 3.11 pm.
Anyway, those pics are definitely fake. If those pics are taken in 2009, there is no way to appear the date as Oct. 2008. If the clock of the camera is not properly set, the date would be something like 2000/1/1 or 1970/1/1. But it is Oct. 2008?!
SKR reports.. Must see.. here
Civilians at PTK.. here
harry and ninja,
as a matter of fact we have come to a 'volatile standstill'. this is not a passive one. SLA's movement has been stopped by tigers for the past few days.
civilians are NOT spread in the 110+ sq km area. they are mostly in the south-eastern part of it.
this is why tigers are attacking us from the south-eastern 'tamil elam'.
still SLA couldn't move into tiger territory from the north and west of 'TE'.
but things will change in a few days when LTTE defences wear out. SLA is planning a major push from the north to south along the eastern side of 'TE'. contrary to earlier expectations, this NOT going to be an 'along the coast' movement. of course its broad fronts may reach the coast but it is going to be a push to get areas north of A35. this is why the earlier safe zone was CANCELLED and a new one was set up in the south-eastern part.
Nisal
I know little about cameras, and you may be correct.
But I think if one really wants to alter date taken it can be done using some software.
May be tamilnut does so by default just to avoid giving exact time for SLA. Or they have done nothing but just simply uploaded the photo took and saved to tamilnut editor's computer in October.
Patriot ALERT: Real Jay & Fake Jay Profile IDs
Please Check Profile IDs
Real Jay: 02181904131061174788
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MD
The ground situation has changed and SLA have to change tactics accordingly. Hope they have already done.
Earlier we use small team tactics, SLAF jet support, SLAF hinds support, MBRL, arti support where civilians were not present.
Now LTTE has a numan shield, they fire from heavy motar guns stationed among civilians and we avoid firing there.
So SLA have to find a new way, I don't know what it would be. But for sure GSL has to keep working on political, IC, media fronts.
/Real Jay & Fake Jay Profile IDs/
Those two accept they are two people but keep using same handle. I don't know why.
hows the tamil lib this great day!
okay just begun to compile a tamil dictionary. here goes;
word -> meaning
lie : truth
human shield : brave
genocide : few terras dying
suicide : something we ask the low castes to do
child soldier : something we ask low caste's kids to do
terrorism : freedom figthing
...
shall add more later
හමුදා සෙබල සොයුරන් දිවි පරදු කොට
කරනා සටන අගයමු රැක පුන්චි රට
මිය යන්නට නොදෙමි හැකිනම් මෙමට
ආසිරි පතන්නැයි ඉල්ලමි ගෙන් හැමට
Moshe, Ninja,
My question is, if tigers are not fighting ferociously our forces can go forward and capture remaining territory and box them into the new no fire zone, if they are fighting hard then harvest should be good.
I can’t see neither of the above happening! That is why question!!
We have nearly 40,000 troops surrounding them and about 8000 to 12000 fighting with them.
What do you think about their real strength now?
Ninja said....
Those two accept they are two people but keep using same handle. I don't know why.
Ninja, could it be the same reason that suicide bombers hide among civilians?
[New security plan to stop LTTE’s resurgence
By Tissa Ravindra Perera
A special security plan will be implemented in the near future to stop a resurgence of the LTTE activities, military sources said. This special plan will include an increase in the number of military intelligence operatives, Special Forces and Commandos as well as establishing new Army, Navy and Air Force bases in the North and East.
“The military Intelligence operatives, Special Forces and Commandos will play a major role in this plan. Their role is to monitor and stop any guerilla activity in the liberated areas,’ said a top military official. “Their numbers will also be increased to meet these objectives. Also the mobility of the Army will be increased by the purchase of new Armoured Personnel Carriers”.
He said the plan also envisages increasing the number of Army, Navy and Air Force bases in the North and East to prevent the LTTE from regrouping in jungle covered areas. Two new Security Force Headquarters will be established in the East and West of the A9 road bringing the number of such establishments in the area to five.
“Right now there are only three Security Force Headquarters in the region, Jaffna, Wanni and the East,’ he said. “Also Navy will build a series of bases in the coastal areas recaptured from the LTTE,”
Meanwhile the Air Force will establish two bases in the Iranmadu and Mulleyaweli areas, where the security forces discovered two major LTTE runways. “Two air strips will also be built so that Wanni supplies can be supplied by air at any given time,” he said.
]
Oh... sweet GOSL. Thank you... Thank you... Thank you... for finally deciding to slowly Srilankanize the ENTIRE North / East.
he he he... Simply great to see the 'traditional' Tamil homeland getting evaporated!
Absolutely this an occasion for me to reach for a good bottle of red wine.
This is how to hit the Tamil Diaspora to feel the PAIN.
Nothing gives me more pleasure than:
a) seeing this traditional 'Tamil' homeland getting Srilankanized
b) killing more and more Tamil terrorists and their coolies spilling their red hot Tamil terrorist blood.
Kill More... Achieve More!
New Torpedo: Customer Failed to Pick it Up!
Calling LTTE, Helloooo....; Calling Mr. Thailaivar...
Torpedo found in lorry shed
A two-tonne torpedo measuring 20 feet that was found at a highway lorry workshop in Salem on Saturday. 15 Feb 2009
SALEM: A two-tonne torpedo measuring 20 feet used by the Indian Navy was found left at a highway lorry workshop here on Friday night.
The weapon, appearing new and ready for use, was mounted on a stand near the workshop on the Salem-Bangalore highway opposite Government Engineering College, Karupur.
A number of people streamed in to take a look at the rocketshaped weapon and rumours began to circulate as to whether it was being smuggled by a terrorist outfit or if it was being supplied to Sri Lanka by the Indian Army.
Inquires by Q Branch and the district police, however, put off the speculations.
The lorry workshop owner Mani told the police that the weapon was downloaded from a truck operated by Concordance Logistics, about 1pm on Friday.
The driver requested him to keep the weapon in his custody saying he would take it back after loading the truck at the JSW Steel plant at Mecheri. As the weapon was the only consignment on board, the transporter wanted to load up the lorry enroute, Mani said.
On checking the transit documents such as waybills, the police came to know that the torpedo was consigned from Larsen & Toubro Ltd (L & T ), Kancheepuram and the consignee was L & T Heavy Engineering Ltd, Mumbai. After making verifications with the parties concerned, the police made sure that the consignment was not under an illegal transit.
Police sources in Salem could not provide any details on the nature and caliber of the torpedo or whether it was a completed weapon or it was being taken to Mumbai for further modifications.
Although the police does not suspect foul play to be behind the weapon lying in the Salem workshop, pertinent questions on the lackadaisical manner of handling high profile defence equipment have to be asked.
HP
Tell me if LTTE
1. station their long range guns at their choice
2. settle civilians covering those guns
3. fire at SLA (20 km away)
Then
4. SLA detects it
5. SLA do have arti, MBRL and SLAF support but they do not use it to neutralize LTTE fire due to civilians
So how can SLA advance?
SLG war strategy = 100%
SLG Media War strategy = could do better ….
Let me explain:
a) We have reporting restriction:
I have no problem with the SLG policy on reporting from the war zone. After all, during the Falklands and the Iraq wars, the British Army took only embedded reporters to the war front. And we all know what happened to the (UK) ITN team, who tried to report the war independently of the military.
b) We do not provide war related footage/ interviews.
The state broadcaster Rupavahini / ITN does not provide any output which could be useful to foreign media.
Note- Defence.lk is doing a great job with limited resources. For example it carried the IDP suicide bomber story with embedded video, within a couple of hours of the incident. The link was ideal to publicise the event, but for broadcast media, we need the whole package - English subtitles / narration / editing and HQ pictures.
c) Then we complain about the international media not reporting the war properly, e.g.: 'Tell the whole truth' says Secretary Defence.
Some of you will say who cares; the war will be over soon. Well, just remember we need a well-organised media unit for the next stage of the battle: to expose what the LTTE was all about and to out those who worked for it. At the same time we need to counteract the LTTE propaganda against the SLG, which is now gathering pace.
To give you an example, this Sunday morning, GTV the London based terrorist TV channel, had Fr S.J. Emmanuel, president of the International Tamil Federation presenting a programme in English. It was all about the IDPs with news footage from the jungle. All the interviews with the civilians were subtitled, with sombre music in the background and broadcast quality pictures and editing.
This programme was free to air and could be seen all over Europe and the Middle East.
/Meanwhile the Air Force will establish two bases in the Iranmadu and Mulleyaweli areas, where the security forces discovered two major LTTE runways./
Thnaks diASSpora for the two free air ports. hik hik
ගැමුනු සින්හ ගජබා යන රන ගන්ගා
උතුරු දෙසින් මහ සටනට පැන නැන්ගා
බැවුම් තැනිතලා හෙල් අතරින් රින්ගා
මෙවා ගලයි ඊලාමය කර නැති බන්ගා
@ Propaganda
SKR's reports are very informative and to the point. Some one just need to add subtitles in English and other languages and upload to the web.
Ninja,
If I take your points as the latest reality of the final eelam war, there should be a way to deal with that. Without seeing MI and situ reports, it is difficult to assume a stale mate condition. Even if they have arti positioned in such a way to stall SLDF advance, they cannot do it simultaneously to cover complete FDL.
SLAF should be able to silenced the arti’s and some FDL places are too close to use arti anyway.
harry,
that's what i said.
there is a massive war going on there. SLA's thrust is stopped by tigers on ALL fronts for the past few days. they managed to halt us. SLA is taking some casualties, i'm sure tiger casualties are MUCH MUCH higher.
but it is expected that SLA will get a vital breakthrough from the northern thrusts SOON.
IMHO tigers have thousands of cadres still fighting. they are DESPERATELY looking for force multipliers.
ninja,
SLDFs are using both tactics. (what they have been using and new ones).
not all areas have civilians. they are mostly in the south-eastern part.......
in civilian areas we are using more of other tactics. but still SLDFs are NOT in the 'hostage rescue' mode. facilitating fleeing civilians and ICRC backed rescue op.s are different if you know what i mean.
100% agree that the media war must match the SLDF successes (and failures!). also agree that we are lagging behind AS USUAL.
LTTE started war = 1972 (vezapillai sustained injusries 'playing' with bombs in 1972)
we started it = 1983
1983-1972=11
LTTE started propoganda war = 1983 (after black july)
we started it = 1994 (kadir assumed office)
1994-1983=11
we MUST bridge this 11 years of inaction as well in propoganda war.
Konappu Bandara
Liam fox went to Vanni when his party was in power so don’t have much hope from them as well. We have to look after our selves as united people or this problem will be endless. I doubt if our leaders are capable of solving this in near future. Their numbers are still intact, still capable of inflicting damage to the country. Perhaps 700 up there and 3 times down with us in the South. If we were not capable in discovering the 7 air fields, how on earth can we locate the numerous that escaped South?
Sanercomic,
"Rover,
Good Job
http://sanercomic.blogspot.com"
Thanks. You and Ananda-USA have done a good job with your blogspot. Perhaps I could contribute one as well. Keep writing mate....
I meant mates!
Moshe,
Indeed they are looking for force multipliers; but it is only a matter of time now, before they cave in.
Ninja, what are SKR's reports?
තුන් හෙලේ හැම පින් බලෙන් සිරි ලක උපන් දුදරුවනේ
කොටි නසන්නට එක්වෙයව් අද සමගි වී පොදු පෙරමුනේ
එකෙක් මලවිට සියක් එතනට පොරකකා විත් රොක් උනේ
අපේ හදවත් ඔබත් සමගයි උරෙන් උර ඇත හැම දිනේ
rover,
SKR = saman kumara ramawickrama
JWick,
මම පාවිච්චි කරන්නෙ Firefox with Sinhala Key addon.
ඊට අමතරව XP වල හරියට සිංහල පේන්න www.siyabas.lk Sinhala Unicode update එක ඕනි.
විජේසේකර යතුරු පුවරුව පුලුවන් නම් රත්නායක කියපු දේ ඇති.
Now anything and everything we do is attributed to a genocide.
If we start discussions here in Sinhala language would it amount to Internet Genocide of Tamizhs?
LOL
Great article DW... We need more like these at times when the peelamists' only option is to lie and beg to the international community about an imagined 'plight' of the Tamils..
Hats off to the Sinhala diaspora in Italy, Britain and Canada fo organizing and participating in massive rallies to counter peelam crap.... Wish we could get our guys here in the states to do the same....
article on UAV
[[Ninja said...
Nisal
I know little about cameras, and you may be correct.
But I think if one really wants to alter date taken it can be done using some software.
May be tamilnut does so by default just to avoid giving exact time for SLA. Or they have done nothing but just simply uploaded the photo took and saved to tamilnut editor's computer in October.]]
Yes, it is possible to change those information. But if they wanted to do so, they could remove those metadata instead of modifying to older date. If they really want to change the date to an older date, they could change it to some unrealstic date such as 1970/1/1 or 2000/1/1. But why 2008/10? (Anyway, there were lot of LTTP attacks in 2008/10) On the other hand, according to the TN article, do they have a reason to hide the date taken? According to the article, the date is not a secret.
Peelam believers... take a look at these:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LW2sI6qbzSA&eurl=http://www.lankanewspapers.com/news/2009/2/39442_space.html
http://lakbimanews.lk/special/spe8.htm
India has no moral responsibility to pressure the Sri Lankan government to hold talks with armed militants. India's stand was clear. Just like the Centre was not in a position to negotiate with armed groups operating in Nagaland, Mizoram, Assam and Jammu & Kashmir, Sri Lanka too would not initiate a dialogue with armed militants - Union home minister P Chidambaram on Sunday
Last Mile.
I got the necessary downloads and installations.
But the way it writes is a little bit weird/awkward.
For example,
ෙමෙහම උවමනා එක ලියෙවන්ෙන
මෙහෙම!!
Defence Minister?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDM9ztLo0mE&fe%20ature
Gentlemen,
Can you remember there was a blogger by the name Lasantha who used to post "begal" here?
He got anti government and anti Sri Lanka views.
Very strange he disappeared after Lasantha's death.
Just guessing, may be he was Lasantha.
Koti agents are genociding the truth with cluster lies.
I salute all those who are fighting against these liers, fakes, pretenders, double agents, pansies and ponsies.
Thank you to all the voters of Mahinda's party at the election. You won. Keep winning.
JWick,
That's weird indeed.
Are you using IE with Wijesekara keyboard or Firefox with addon?
http://www.ucsc.cmb.ac.lk/ltrl/services/keyboard/
HTH
I thought Bandara did self-immolate. hik hik
"Kothapaya got busted by BBC"
Very ugly interview. He doesn't know international PR. There is a difference between speaking locally and speaking to a foreign journalist.
I wouldn't call him got busted. The interview is not certainly a help for Sri Lanka.
JWick,
This might help you
Kalinga's Guide
Sinhala bloggers page
The Tale of Tamil Ealam (part II- continued from the previous post by www.Puligal.blogspot.com)
...soon the whole SL will be taken over and then the sun god will take over Tamil Nadu and then the whole of India, Then the forces will divide in two and attack china and the middle east simultaneously.. and then in a surprising move will move up towards Russia from the east and west, and box in the commies....once the main asian land is secured, harasing attacks to europe will start, while africa will remain untouched (who want africa anyway..may be the sungod will nuke them out of their misery).........
to be continued-
The Tale of Tamil Ealam (part III- continued from the previous post by Puligal..)
after nuking the africans(and saving them from their misery) the attention of the LTTE ( by then called as the LTWE-Liberation Tigers of World Ealam), will turn towards the USA..... attacking from both flanks the main US defensive forces will be tied down to protect the coast. The Deep Underwater Naval Group (DUNG) of the tigers will by then would have completely wiped off the Pacific fleet as well as the Meditarranean fleet of the US navy....thus gaining the Sea Tigers total sea supremacy..
In another tale of Sungods intelligence the Snow Tigers- the newly formed Arctic fighting group of the tigers will drive down from the arctic, down Canada and Alaska in a pincer movement down to Mexico, where they will be met by the Jaguar-group who by then will have dominated South America..and the 2 remaining pockets of resistance on the west coast and the east coast will be completely crushed thus for the first time establishing the Greater Tamil Ealam..... And the tamils from all over the world will be able to love happily with out any genocide....
End of Chapter
[coming up- How the Tigers conquered the Martians]
Thanks Moshe, I like him too.
ReallyCold,
"Very ugly interview. He doesn't know international PR. There is a difference between speaking locally and speaking to a foreign journalist."
Didn't see that as yet; too busy. Is it on youtube?
BTW, I have another post on my blogspot, if you have the time, take a look.
Survival of The Fittest
Pantara,
I watched an interview of Kothappaya on Rubavakiny channel.
India Refuses to Demand from Sri Lanka what is contrary to its own Policy against Separatist Militants
Patriots,
In many of my postings at Indian news websites, I have been demanding that India CONSISTENTLY APPLY the SAME POLICY against Separatist Militants in BOTH India and Sri Lanka.
It was necessary to DRUM IN THIS MESSAGE REPEATEDLY, to wit...What is good for the Goose should be Good for the Gander as well.
The greatest teachers the world has ever known, like the Lord Buddha and Jesus Christ, did not always make abstract appeals to intellect of their audience.
Instead, they often resorted to ASKING THEIR LISTENERS TO WALK IN THE SHOES OF THEIR FELLOW MEN. This is a very powerful technique that cuts cuts across abstract semantics and preconcieved notions to the gut issue, that If You Cannot Swallow Your Own Medicine, Do Not Prescribe It To Others.
There are many sayings, in Buddhist Sutras and in the Christian Bible, that exemplify this very effective approach to convincing your listeners. Some, made famous by Jesus Christ, are:
1. Do unto others as you would have them do unto you
2. He who is without sin, let him throw the first stone
3. You are your brother's keeper
When writing to plead impartiality and equity for Sri Lanka's case from our global audience, I often adopt this approach, as often as appealing to fact and logic alone. When we do so, the truths of the statements become evident at an instinctive gut level, not requiring rational analysis on a higher plane.
LTTE should lay down arms says Indian Home Minister
"The situation in Sri Lanka would not have reached a grave stage in the non-liberated areas had the LTTE terrorists utilized the 48-hour window period given by the government to allow civilians to move to safer areas," Indian Union Home Minister P. Chidambaram was quoted as saying on Sunday(Feb 15).
He had made these remarks during a public meeting held at Mylapore, Chennai in the South Indian state. He also pointed-out that, "India cannot directly interfere in the war against the LTTE, as demanded by some, since the country had itself not held talks with militant outfits in the North-East and Kashmir, who had refused to give up arms".
"Before any possible dialogue for cession of hostilities the LTTE should give-up arms", Minister Chidambaram further asserted.
"This fact has been understood only by the DMK, Congress and AIADMK in the state," he said, adding that PMK leader Dr S Ramadoss and Viduthulai Chiruthaigal Katchi leader Tol Tirumavalavan (pro-LTTE parties) should also try to see this viewpoint."
Patriots,
In a recent post I said...
"The greatest teachers the world has ever known, like the Lord Buddha and Jesus Christ, did not always make abstract appeals to intellect of their audience.
Instead, they often resorted to ASKING THEIR LISTENERS TO WALK IN THE SHOES OF THEIR FELLOW MEN. This is a very powerful technique that cuts cuts across abstract semantics and preconcieved notions to the gut issue, that If You Cannot Swallow Your Own Medicine, Do Not Prescribe It To Others."
Here are some example posts that use this technique.
Patriots, please feel to use these posts, in virgin or modified forms, in your own posts to defend Mother Lanka.
Post #1:
I am all for "Political Solutions" with terrorists: First in India, then in Sri Lanka. That is why I VEHEMENTLY criticize the Indian security forces attack on the MUMBAI TERRORISTS. These are FREEDOM FIGHTERS with legitimate grievances...aren't they? The Indian Govt should have NEGOTIATED a PEACEFUL AGREEMENT with them...isn't that so? Hey, if they were demanding an INDEPENDENT JAMMU & KASHMIR...GIVE IT TO THEM, after all every community, no matter how small, has the right of SELF-DETERMINATION ...don't they? By confronting the Mumbai terrorists, INDIA's security forces PROVOKED THEM and DELIBERATELY INFLICTED civilian casualties. What, the terrorists gunned down innocent people, you say? Well, we have to break SOME EGGS in an independence struggle, DON'T WE? BOYS, will be BOYS. Forgive them, don't be harsh. Now, about the civilian casualties caused by the SECURITY forces...Quite REPREHENSIBLE, Don't you think? Incidentally, SAME PROBLEM exists in SRI LANKA!
Post #2:
"INDIA HAS NO DUTY TO TAMILS IN SRI LANKA: India and Sri Lanka are sovereign nations and neither India nor anyone else has a right to interfere in what is essentially an internal matter. Yet, India asserts a duty to guarantee the Tamils of Sri Lanka. These two positions are CONTRADICTORY. If the second duty is to be FULFILLED, then the first truth must be VIOLATED! If these CONTRADICTORY PRINCIPLES are applied to India by PAKISTAN & BANGLADESH on behalf of over 200 million Indian Moslems, and by CHINA on behalf of the Mongoloid peoples of the Northeastern and Northwestern states of India, the INTEGRITY & SOVEREIGNTY of INDIA will be at RISK because each of them will ASSERT a DUTY to certain communities in INDIA and will intervene in Indian affairs. Likewise, INDIA HAS NO DUTY TO TAMILS IN SRI LANKA...THAT IS THE SOLE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE SOVEREIGN NATION OF SRI LANKA."
Post #3:
"Good NEIGHBOURLINESS Between NATIONS: Pakistan & Bangladesh have NO DUTY to MOSLEMS in India...That is the SOLE RESPONSIBILITY of the SOVEREIGN NATION of India. India has NO DUTY to TAMILS in Sri Lanka...That is the SOLE RESPONSIBILITY of the SOVEREIGN NATION of Sri Lanka. SOVEREIGN Pakistan & Bangladesh have a DUTY to PROTECT SOVEREIGN India from ATTACKS by controlling their MOSLEM citizens. SOVEREIGN India has a DUTY to PROTECT SOVEREIGN Sri Lanka from ATTACKS by controlling their TAMIL citizens. Do Unto Others As You Would Have Them Do Unto You!"
Post #4:
"How is India handling separatist movements within India? Are you negotiating, or sending the army in? I didn't see negotiations with the sikhs taking over the Golden Temple in Srinagar nor with the terrorists in Jammu & Kashmir. Well, I'll tell you: Every separatist movement that has been successfully contained in India, has been suppressed militarily. It is the duty and right of sovereign India to maintain its integrity, and to take military action to protect the lives of its people, but yet Indians have a different standard for Sri Lanka. Why is the same principle not being applied consistently to all cases? What are your principles; do you have any, any at all on this issue? Or does it depend only on whose ox is being gored, and that small neighbors can be bullied at will?"
Post #5
"Tamils in Tamil Nadu claim to have compassion for Sri Lanka Tamils because of "placental relations." How is it that your "placental relations" don't generate any compassion for the Dalit Tamils of your own state? Why is it that the communal rabble-rouser Ramadoss wanted a "Vanniyar-only" state for his caste? Why is it that Dalits can't get admission to Hindu temples, to colleges, or to public water in your wonderful state brimming with compassion and tolerance? Why is it that the non-Tamil people of Aryan descent in North India are demonized by Tamils of Tamil Nadu? Finally, why do Sri Lankan Tamils who come to Tamil Nadu, return complaining that Indian Tamils discriminate against them as low-caste? I say you are suffering from a terminal case of HYPOCRISY! Stop preaching to Sri Lanka; We have no such discrimination in Sri Lanka;We are far ahead of you."
Post #6:
"Sri Lanka is the homeland of all of its people, not part by part, but as a whole. There is no place in Sri Lanka for a Tamil-only racist mono-ethnic apartheid state of Eelam. Separatism is a disease peculiar to India, now at work unraveling the fabric binding together Indians of different races, religions, languages and castes. Please don't export your incurable diseases to Sri Lanka. Keep them hidden at home in India, particularly in Tamil Nadu. You have largely rejected the compassionate teachings of your greatest son, the Lord Gautama Buddha, and of those great unifiers Dharma-Asoka and Mahatma Gandhi. Discrimination of all forms is endemic in India while your people are left illiterate, and destitute by your rabble-rousing leaders. Yet, you presume to be qualified to preach to Sri Lanka, where with the sole exception of the Eelam struggle spawned by India, we have made great progress in achieving social equity among our people. What HYPOCRISY! Heal thyself first, India!"
Post #7:
"EELAM is Dead! The NEW MISSION of the Tamil Diaspora is to Create "GREATER DRADIVIAN NATION HOMELAND MOVEMENTS": Liberation Tigers of Tamil Nadu (LTTTN); Liberation Tigers of Tamil Canada (LTTC); Liberation Tigers of Tamil Norway (LTTN); Liberation Tigers of Tamil United Kingdom (LTTUK); Liberation Tigers of Tamil South Africa (LTTSA); Liberation Tigers of Tamil Germany (LTTG); Liberation Tigers of Tamil Singapore (LTTS); Liberation Tigers of Tamil Malaysia (LTTM); Liberation Tigers of Tamil USA (LTTUSA); Liberation Tigers of Tamil Australia (LTTA), IRRESPECTIVE of how small a region the community occupies in that country as a whole. Goal is to complete the project of enslaving and exterminating their own people, as they did in Sri Lanka."
a rare honest opinion by a jaffna tamil.
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The Jaffna Tamils have the mindset of children.
They are brilliant and accomplish amazing feats (submarines, airplanes, etc.) but they only know to destroy.
How foolish it was to fight the Indian army. How foolish it has been to fight the Sinhalese.
We crossed the line when we assassinated Rajiv, and we crossed the line by going so low in our attempt to destroy Sri Lanka.
We are children because when we are betrayed, we only know to fight and destroy in return. Even with much much greater powers like India, we only wanted to fight them and destroy them.
We are brilliant because despite being a small nation of 2 to 3 million, with the whole world against us, we have managed to create a ruthless and feared army. The Tigers were basically running a state in the Northeast prior to Eelam War IV.
I know if we achieved our own country, within five years we would develop it. We have huge potential.
But we are children for crossing the line with powers like India. Now we will be punished. We will be destroyed so much that we will Never Be able to stand up again.
We have been so childish, that we will never be able to stand up again.
Sri Lanka and India will destroy us completely. We will suffer forever.
I know we succeeded in destroying Sri Lanka. And we might even succeed in destroying part of India by de-stablizing Tamil Nadu.
But now Sri Lanka and India will destroy us completely. Our childish behavior has led us to self-destruction.
If we keep fighting, we will be destroyed so much that we will never stand up again.
Now it is time for us to beg for forgiveness. We need to be mature. The Sinhalese are generous people and the Indians might still forgive us. If we beg now, then we can save ourselves from genocide.
If we aren't mature, then I know we will be destroyed never to stand up again.
And I know we will never become mature, and I know we will use all of our might to fight until the destruction of our nation. But through causing destruction to Sri Lanka and India, we have dug our own grave.
Now it is time to be mature. If we don't grow up, then we will go extinct.
There are so many ways to regain our dignity. Fighting is not the only way. Trying to impose our will upon way bigger nations has been the most childish and self-destructive methodology for winning our liberty. There are so many permutations one can use to solve the same problem. We need to become more mature very soon.
The Tamil Tiger leadership needs to become more mature. Mr. Pathmanathan needs to get help from the International Community and India to formulate a peace initiative. We need to stop fighting with Sri Lanka. We have lost the war- there is no need to go so low as to use human shields and terrorism to prolong a war of attrition that we have already lost.
Or else, we will be punished for our childish behavior, we will be totally destroyed.
If the Tigers prolong this war for a few more years (hoping for economic collapse of SL), then Tamil civilians from the Vanni war-zone will be held in concentration camps for the duration of the war.
If the Tigers plan to prolong this war of attrition (for another 3 years until SL collapses), then the Tigers are sowing the seeds for the destruction of SL Tamils. After we lose, we will be punished for our childish pursuit of destabilizing Sri Lanka.
We can still save face by negotiating self-determination for the North.
Posted by: Murugan | February 13, 2009 07:24 PM
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http://transcurrents.com/tc/2009/02/tamil_people_may_have_only_two.html
@ Preferential vote results..
Almost all tamils and muslims have voted for UNP while almost 90% of sinhalese have voted for UPFA out of the voters.
Boston Globe has published an LTTE propaganda article here
please contribute with your comments
First india wanted to destabalise SL and created LTTP
Then they wanted LTTPussies under control and sent their army
Then they wanted SL to stop the war a few months back
Having failed that they tried for a ceasefire
Having failed that now they want LTTPussies to laydown arms
India you can go on with your bull nobody cares what you think anymore you have lost all credibility.
So shut the f**k up and watch carefully how we shred this terrorists to pieces. You'll learn something that you might find useful.
LTTE should lay down arms says Indian Home Minister
Thanks Ananda
Post #7 my personal favourite!
Ananda_USA,
I have been reading your comments on many sites. It has been a pleasure!
Keep up the good work.
You are doing a yeoman service to the nation!
Look whose preaching us on how to run the war now HAHAHA
Lankan army walking into a trap, warns LTTE
සැබෑ ඉල්ලීම් සහ මාර විහිළු
කොටි අඩවියෙන් පළමුවරට බැරල් ක්ලේමෝ සොයාගනී
ninja,
"Preferential vote results..
Almost all tamils and muslims have voted for UNP while almost 90% of sinhalese have voted for UPFA out of the voters."
if this is so, it is a fcuking dangerous situ.
but that doesn't explain the nuwara eliya result. if all tamils had voted for UNP, it would have won nuwara eliya EASILY.
I wonder if fein is the only one becoming a talking parrot for LTTPussies for a decent payment. He's laughing all the way to the bank HAHAHA
Grand scale murder, rape of screened civilians feared, TNA MP alerts - tamilnut
Maybe TNA MP thought these civilians are going into an LTTPussy bunker. HAHAHA
Fish freshly harvested from the sea:
Sathiyamoorthy dead
Whose going do creative writing on tamilnut now?
Whose going do creative writing on tamilnut now?
Why dont u come & apply for the Job since u are creative in lies too ?
hahahaha
LTTDumbPussies
Fought - failed
Demonstrated - failed
Burned themselves to death - no body cared
tried international court - got labelled laughing stock
Any other bright ideas?
Have a good day patriots
Mess with the Lion at your own risk. Go the brave sons of Sri Lanka!
Which big fish would be harvested next?
Here kitty kitty kitty!
Here puss puss puss :)
another hate-filled article by TG in AT.
the bitch asks,
"Will the Rajapakses alienate the Tamils (yet again) and push them back into the arms of the waiting Tiger?"
this assumes,
1. rajapakses once did it.
when the hell was that??
2. there will be a tiger waiting after the war.
this part i agree. a dead tiger will be waiting in hell and the rajapakses will send the troublemakers into its hands!!
so what??
moda-rate tamils at AT don't allow media freedom.
i was talking to one of my Friend.
Yesterday has seen the most Brutal firing of shells & two known persons of him died in the shelling & he literally cried in front of me.
Why is World still not showing mercy on us tamils ?
is this not Genocide u Bastards
Weeran,
Why the hell you can't ask LTTE to release the civilians??
No I cannot agree with Ninja. I think UPFA got 75% in Kurunegala and more majority in other province as these minority votes also casted to UPFA. But Maskeliya I agreed. Thondaman could not command his area. Probably it is old habit conquered.
Puran, Vajira do do Duzz comeback and update battle field. I think SLA is in the old safe zone and digging the buried weapons.
Veeran
Your friend cries will be temporary. Once LTTE defeated it is all over.
Wht about Mahaveerar Families. Why they are insisting stay there. Tell them to come to safer places.
Praba is a such a coward.
@ V'madu
58 finds white phosparas
57 finds 85 122mm ammo, 40 130mm ammo.
Wow. White Phosperus. LTTE is going to be exposed so badly.
Yesterday Rupavahini reported Suthanthirapuram liberated with 20,000 civilians
It is good news
Hanas,
Really! 20,000 civilians OMG it is really good news! Are sure mate?
Guys,
the news i got to know yesterday was amazing. when army intercepted ltte radio communication yesterday it revealed something interesting. for the first time after about 10 days the code name of soosai was active. normally the code names of the highest rank officers do not get repeated elsewhere in the battle field. in other words the top brass have a unique code name. yesteday soosai's code name was active but SLA is not being able to verify whether it was actually soosai or whether it was someone else. it IS possible that ltte uses someone else to direct the field trying to mislead the SLA.
btw, the further advance of SLA is temporarily held back to allow safe passage of the civilians to the new safe zone. PTK will not be intercepted till majority of civilians cross the PTK junc along the A 35. it is NOT that ltte is counter attacking and SLA cant move ahead.
Mass Suicide by VP: Who Would Then Doubt That Mighty VISHNU Dispenses Justice, Both POETIC & WONDROUS, in Realtime?
Those Who Live By The Sword, Should Die by the Sword. This could well be the only decent act by this monstrous alien. I will not weep either for him or for his murderous crew!
‘Prabhakaran planning to commit suicide with followers'
P K Balachandran 16 Feb 2009
"COLOMBO: Tamil Tiger chief Velupillai Prabhakaran is planning to commit suicide along with hundreds of his hardcore followers at a beach in Mullaitivu district if the Sri Lankan armed forces close in on his last hideout, says Basil Rajapaksa, Senior Advisor to the Sri Lankan President Mahinda Rajapaksa.
Rajapaksa told The Sunday Times that there was “substantive” intelligence regarding a mass suicide bid by the Tiger chieftain and his followers.
Prabhakaran was confident that many would join the mass sacrifice and it would be a public event to be videoed and shown to the Tamil Diaspora across the globe as the last heroic act of the only man who pledged his all to secure an independent state of ‘Eelam’ for the Tamils of Sri Lanka.
Reports said that Prabhakaran had directed civilians to gather at an undisclosed beach in Mullaitivu district for this act of supreme sacrifice.
LTTE BURYING WEAPONS: Coming to the conclusion that their end was near, the Tamil Tigers are busy burying their weapons both big and small so as to be able to use them later when the armed struggle for an independent Tamil Eelam could be revived, ‘The Nation’ weekly reveals.
Round the clock UA V surveillance had revealed that LTTE cadres were greasing their weapons, wrapping them up in polythene and burying them deep in jungles, as they did in the East in 2006-7 and after the India-Sri Lankan Accord in 1987.
That the Tigers could pull off surprises was evident when they successfully hid their aircraft and hangars and trained their pilots in night flying without being detected."
Rocky,
Thanks, another good news mate. You make my day bro.
If any one watched the Rupvahini News yesterday? Before Vanni Mehayuma it is stated SLA rescued 20,000 from Suthanthirapuram
LTTE is still hoping for ceasefire and burying weapons for future use. Then they will show only little weapons to the world and will say we are laying down arms. (Remember 1987)
After some time they will say cannot negotiate and start using this weapons.
We know your game LTTE
rocky said...
btw, the further advance of SLA is temporarily held back to allow safe passage of the civilians to the new safe zone. PTK will not be intercepted till majority of civilians cross the PTK junc along the A 35. it is NOT that ltte is counter attacking and SLA cant move ahead.
Rocky, I have long argued (from before the fall of Paranthan/ Kilinochchi) that sweeping the LTTE in along all fronts, allowing them to drive the civilians ahead of them, without SEPARATING the civilians from the LTTE cadre, is the wrong way to go. It only exacerbated the final act of the LTTE hiding behind the civilians.
If a STRATEGY TO SEPARATE CIVILIANS FROM THE LTTE cadre had been undertaken early, we could have avoided the current situation. Declaring a NEW SAFE ZONE, and then allowing the LTTE to drive the civilians further into that area, only exacerbates the problem.
It is RATHER LATE now, but this is the time to attack with armor and mechanized infantry in massive strength, but without inaccurate artillery shelling to partition the remaining area into small cells, and use a divide-and-conquer process within this area to rescue the civilians, before they are driven into the NEW SAFE ZONE.
Before Kilinochchi fell, I submitted the following STRATEGY FOR SEPARATING THE CIVILIANS from the LTTE to both the MOD and the SLA. Clearly, it was not adopted; there may have been good reasons for that, that I am not aware of. But, if a plan along these lines had been implemented, the end phase would have been much less risky to civilians.
"An Operational Strategy for Separating the LTTE from Wanni Civilians
A major problem that will confront the SLA at the end of the clearing of LTTE occupied territory is that of preventing the LTTE from using the Wanni civilians as a human shield in the last stages of the campaign. I have a strategy that may work to separate significant numbers of LTTE fighters from these civilians, so they more easily escape tpwards the SLA troops.
I assume the following:
1. The Wanni civilians will remain primarily spread out along route A35 between Velikkandal and Puthukkudyiruppu,
2. The Jaffna front, Paranthan, Kilinochchi, Odusuddan and Mullativu have not yet fallen,
3. A new earthen bund erected diagonally from Iranamadu to Odusuddan is the new LTTE FDL at the South-West front, and
4. The new TF4 is not yet engaged and is available for deployment.
The basic idea is first to tie down the LTTE cadres at the Northern (Jaffna, Paranthan, Kilinochchi), Western (Kokavil to Iranamadu), and South Western (Iranamadu to Odusuddan) fronts, and directly south of Mullaitivu.
Meanwhile, a very strong force consisting of the entire TF4 and one brigade of the more experienced 59 Division to stiffen the new TF4, including armour and motorized infantry, attacks from North of Kumulamunai Northwards towards Mulliyawalai to cut route A34, then proceed Northwards along the road on the west of Mullativu lagoon to just short of Puthukkudyiruppu. Since Puthukkudyiruppu is likely to be heavily defended, we invest it, and move eastwards to cut A35 and isolate Mullaitivu from the North (ie., A35) and the South (i.e., A34). This will force LTTE to abandon Mullaitivu and withdraw their forces from it. All attempts to destroy cadres escaping from Mullaitivu, by air assaults or seaborne land assaults should be made at the Eastern side of the Mullaitivu lagoon.
While this is going on, every effort must be made, through military operations and public media announcements of impending captures and activities along the Northern, Western and Southwestern fronts to mislead and keep the LTTE fighters tied down, and prevent them from redeploying towards A35. These diversionary operations can include attacks towards Paranthan, at Kokkabvil around the Iranamadu tank northwards towards Vadakkachchi, and at Olumadu along A34 towards Odusuddan.
The final phase of the separation process is the most difficult. At this time, most of the LTTE cardes will be engaged at other fronts, and only the defenders of Puthukkudyiruppu and cadres who managed to retreat from Mullaitivu will be confronting the SLA at Puthukkudyiruppu. Two options are available. 1. Assault Puthukkudyiruppu directly; this will be difficult because of prepared defences, 2. Move around Puthukkudyiruppu to the West and then North along minor roads and tank bunds and move behind Puthukkudyiruppu, and tie its defenders down. Meanwhile, forces should move towards the Northwest either along A35 or parallel to A35 along minor roads towards Velikkandal to cut route A35 again at Velikkandal. This will prevent the LTTE from driving the civilians anywhere along A35, or westwards towards the interior of uncleared areas to the southwest.
At this time, the Wanni civilians would be close enough to the SLA to escape and find refuge among our troops. To save civilian lives, at this point, leaflets written in Tamil should be airdropped along A35 to inform the civilians of the procedure for safely surrendering to the troops (white flag, hands up in the air at all times etc etc), and assign safe areas for them to congregate.
When this rescue operation is completed, the remaining LTTE cadre will be solely fighting elements, and the full force of the SLDF can be directed against them to compel them to surrender.
It is important to undertake this strategy, before the uncleared area id reduced in extent by sweeping in from the Northern, Western and Southern fronts, because that will ultimately allow large numbers of LTTE fighters to hide among the Wanni civilians and use them as a human shield."
Lets make sure the Prabakaran committing suicide is the real one. We know there are few versions of Prabarakan out there running behind civilians.
Will LTTP surrender?
http://www.lankaenews.com/English/news.php?id=7141
Obviously this Kumar man does not want Velupillai getting killed and insurgency crushed.
Where is his golaya crimewatch?
we also want entire blood line of prabakaran committing suicide.
Govt. says only 65,000 not 450,000 civilians remain in Mullaitivu
by Zacki Jabbar, Date: 15 Feb 2009
The government yesterday claimed that only about 65,000 civilians remain in Mullaitivu and not 450,000 as stated by the LTTE.
Resettlement and Rehabilitation Minister Rishard Baduideen, addressing the Cabinet press briefing at the Information Department, said that the LTTE inflated the number of civilians under its control to 450,000 to obtain more supplies of food and medicine from the government. "In future we will send supplies for about 100,000 people."
The displaced are being housed in government buildings and schools in Vavuniya and Mannar. Those who came over from Mullaitivu yesterday included ten LTTE cadres. They would be housed with the others or separately depending on their requests, he said.
"The first phase of the programme to build 40,000 houses for the IDP's began today in Vavuniya and Chetttikulam. Intially 10,000 units will be constructed. We are also making arrangements to train the IDP's in various fields and find them suitable employment either in Sri Lanka or abroad," he said.
Baduideen, said that a hot line will be operated for those wishing to obtain details of their relatives crossing over to government controlled areas.
Looks like Mahen's London news was true according to Divaina.
http://www.divaina.com/2009/02/16/news05.html
Ado Mahen, What happened to your Vanni correspondent?
Mongal is in action. His LTTE buddies are helping. The funny thing is that all these LTTE 'cunts' have english names.
click here.
Mongala kiyana dewal dakkama ange maalu natanawa...
Machan,
Now he (Mongal) knows he has no future in Sri Lanka. So he is trying to screw the country.
අනේ මට පොඩි ගැටළුවක්. දන්න කෙනෙක් ඉන්නවනං කියල දෙන්න.
දැං මේ හැමදාම ආරංචි වෙන හැටියට මිලියන ගනං වටින අවි ආයුධ, විශාල ඉන්ධන ගබඩා LTTE පාලනයට යටත්ව තිබූ ප්රදේශ වලින් සොයාගැනෙනවනෙ. දැං ඉතින් ඒවට යන කළදසාව මොකක්ද?
අපෙ හමුදාව ඒව නැවත භාවිතා කරනවද? එහෙම කරන procedure එක මොකක්ද ?
ඒ වගෙම මම යොජනා කරනව, අපිට හම්බ වෙච්ච උන්ගෙ විවිධ කර්මාන්ත ශාලා වැඩිදියුණු කර රටේ ආර්ථිකය පෝෂනය කිරීමට භාවිතා කලයුතු බව. ඒ ගැන දැනට ආණ්ඩුව විසින් යොජනා කර තිබෙන වැඩපිලිවෙළක් තියෙනවද ?
We face unfair competition in Sri Lankan market: Airtel
15 Feb 2009
COLOMBO: Indian telecom giant Bharti Airtel, which launched its operations in Sri Lanka last month promising to provide the best and cheapest service, is already facing "unfair competition" with other players in the local market, a company official says.
Johann Munaweera, corporate communications manager of Bharti Airtel Lanka (Pvt) Ltd, told IANS that the company's customers were experiencing "call congestion" when phoning up people on other networks, forcing them to make several tries before finally getting through.
The company has faced no such situation in India where Airtel has nearly 90 million subscribers.
"The incumbent telecom (mobile) operators of Sri Lanka have not been providing us adequate Points of Interconnect. The interconnect capacity requirement requested for by Airtel from other telecom operators has not been furnished fully as per the forecasts provided to them," Munaweera told IANS in an interview.
This resulted in Airtel customers not being able to reach numbers on other networks "during peak hours, causing customers serious inconvenience and dissonance", he said. Airtel is the fifth cellular player in the island nation.
"Given the excellent response Airtel has received from customers in Sri Lanka (prior to and after the launch), we believe this is a deliberate move by the competitors," Munaweera said, describing it as "anti-customer orientation".
He, however, said that Airtel was in constant discussions with all stakeholders, including the Telecommunications Regulatory Commission of Sri Lanka, in an effort to find an early solution.
Bharti Airtel is competing with Telekom Malaysia's Dialog Telekom, Millicom International Cellular's Tigo, Hutchison Telecom's Hutch, and Sri Lanka Telecom's Mobitel.
With its $200 million investment here, it has already established 12,000 outlets in five of the nine provinces in the country and is working on expanding the services to the remaining Uva, North-Central, Northern and Eastern provinces at the earliest.
Although the Sri Lankan market is small, it is crowded. According to the latest statistics, of the total population of 20 million, six million have mobile phones.
The fixed line and mobile phone penetration in Sri Lanka is relatively high. Around 40 percent of the households, other than in the war-ravaged north and east, have access to a phone.
Munaweera said that Airtel was "extremely delighted with the progress" it has made so far, having launched its services with some very affordable and simple tariffs that have broken existing paradigms and given the customer the freedom to talk.
"Our Value Added Services have also been well received. Special mention must be made of the 'Voice Search' service, which has been introduced in all three languages (Sinhala, Tamil and English) to cater to all Sri Lankans. Customers can simply voice their request for news, music and even movie reviews over their mobile phone," he said.
Claiming that the IDD rates introduced were very transparent, incorporating one flat charge per country and keeping customers well informed of the rates per overseas call, Munaweera said that roaming charges in India were 50 percent lower than other operators.
"Airtel is the only service provider in Sri Lanka to have tied up with over 420 networks across 120 countries at launch," he said, adding that the company would soon emerge as the market leader meeting all the challenges on the way.
/Now he (Mongal) knows he has no future in Sri Lanka. So he is trying to screw the country./
Exactly. Mongal expected and wanted the PM post from MR. Didn't get it. New characters such as BR, GR, Palitha Kohona etc emerged and his 'next to the president' role with CBK was replaced by MR. So he has anger against MR, GR, BR.
SF was the man behind military victories and its the militory victories ruined his future PM dream with RW. So SF also his enemy.
Mongal is not stupid. He can understand that he will not get PM post or even come to power. So now he is like a political suicide cadre. Difference is political suicide cadre can commit suicide repeatedly while destroying a nation easily. He does what he can do now.
thambapanni,
මම නම් ඔවා ගැන වැඩිය දන්නේ නෑ. හැබැයි ඉරනමඩුවෙයි මුල්ලියවලියෙයි නම් එයාර් පෝර්ට් හදනවලු. ඉතින් වීසා එක ගහල ගිය ඩයසපොරා කට්ටිය එහෙම ආවම රත්මලානෙන් ලයන් එයාර් එකේ නැගලා ඉරනමඩුවෙන් බහින්න පුලුවන්. මරු නේද? මොනව නමුත් තම තමනුත් සම්මදම් වෙලා හදාපු එයාර් පෝර්ට් එකනේ.
Let there be a general election after the war to cleanse the parliament!
Ananda bro,
comment deleted. 150k is the initial estimate. the actual figure is much much lesser now.
Rocky, bro, Thanks! I deleted mine response to you also. :)
I agree with Ninja(both posts. But this comment is regarding the earlier one). 2/3 of Minority votes were gone for UNP in the districts of Mahanuwara and Nuwaraeliya. And it means 80% or more of the majority has voted for the government. Minorities were voting for UNP as a habit. But the majority used to be 1:1. But now the majority is moving away from the UNP. This trend was there for last four to five years and can become permanent.
(And Nuwraeliya-Maskeliya is Chandrasekaran's strong hold.)
thanks ananda for the link.
proves my humble calculation subject to 7k.
"total number of ppl in LTTE areas = 118,000
number crossed over = 32,000
number left = 86,000
LTTE terrorists and civilian militia = 10,000 (guess)
mahaveer sakkiliyas = 23,000
if each mahaveer family had 2 idiots = 46,000
if half of them had died = 23,000
TF the number of to-be-killed ppl left = 10,000 + 23,000 = 33,000
TF remaining number of civlians = 86,000 - 33,000 = 53,000
just get this 53,000 and we are as good as finished!!!!
February 13, 2009 5:47 AM"
hemantha,
2/3 looks more likely.
definetely not more.
the percentages were 52% and 45% for UPFA and UNP. majority in n-e are tamils. so if almsot all had voted for UNP, it could have won easily.
Yep! I agree.
I think LTTP now needs more & more greese & Polythene bags & excavators rather than weapons.
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