A 30-man LTTE team that breached the 59 Division FDL launched a string of attack this morning killing 15 soldiers in the process. The team had landed in Security Forces dominated Mulaitivu from the Nanthikadal lagoon around 6 a.m. undetected by the Army.
The team launched attacks on an Army Bus, Tractor and two Tanks causing damage to the four vehicles. The team then called in artillery at the FDL and coordinated a strike at the 59 FDL breaching it for a period of time until the Special Forces and Commandos were called in to secure the area. 11 Tigers were also killed in the counter attack, which is still ongoing.
Meanwhile an LTTE plane made a landing around 1.5kms ahead of the 58 Division's FDL at Visuamadu North. A heavy barrage of MBRL fire was immediately directed to the area. No movement was observed from the area following the attack. The Plane had landed on a tar road, further confirming the Army's doubts that it was not always using the landing strips discovered in the area.
In another development, a group of Tiger explosives experts on a mission to blow up the Iranamadu Tank Bund were caught following a daring amphibious operation along with a large quantity of explosives. If the bund was blasted, it could have caused irreparable damage to the area and made the progress of the Army extremely difficult.
Sunday, February 1, 2009
SF hunts LTTE team as plane lands in Visuamadu
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What do you mean by "Death By Bullet, 42/3dSF"
http://www.defence.lk/orbat/Default.asp
Aiaiyo 58 is eating the tiny pink peelaam. According to this map 59, 58 and 55 have to be prepared attacks through lagoons.
@ Feb 4 - we are giving one of the annual opportunities for suicide attacks etc. Let's see what LTTE do this time.
[Actually my question was why UAVs can't find the plane where it is landed..]
landed planes wont be on a tarmac for aerial photography. They should be under cover as soon as landed (if landed at all). A UAV is having a very limited airborne time, and needs to land for fulling. So if a total constant coverage of 400KM is needed, at least 10 UAVs should be needed flying on a formation compensating grounded time for fueling. Since SLA doesn't have that much, it is highly unlikely to spot an air movement in random nature.
Best thing is to have eyes-in-skys, real time satellite imagery.
GoSL is already taken steps towards having Sri Lankan satellite, launched by Chinese. Once this is up, SLDF will be having permanent eyes in skies. Bad situ for terrorists in the future.
Large stock of Sea Tiger weapons found
http://www.itn.lk/webcast/news/20090201/news_04.wmv
Kavee,
Its not a defence satellite.
rocky,
Thanks Bro.
Sorry, I missed your comment regarding chalai.
[Its not a defence satellite..]
:) yes, better to call that way. If we are to call it a defense satellite, all hell will break loose and neighbors will do everything to stop it. lets say we just have a camcorder mounted on the harmless communications satellite, for making some home video.
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The plane and the counter attack story is true...but it is not an air craft which took off from a foreign source.the ltte aircraft was flown from one location to the other...
and the situation is too dynamic for updates at times folks.the best example is the situation in chalai.plus the top wants to have the situation under wraps for the time being with as less as possible in the media.gains were made in chalai by the 55th and the 58th is on the move eastward hopeful of linkup soon.
and the biggest battle in the elam war is expected in this phase of battle to the control of the eastern sea coast.
the story of pottu amman being flown abroad is entirely false...
thats all for now...
The daring attempt to Blast Iranamadu tank bund even at higher risk indicate the Success tiogers had in blasting the Kalmadukuma tank.
@Ananda-USA said...
[ The Rats are Abandoning the Sinking Ship1]
There should be a difference between using this as a headline and believing in it.
Over the years, Eelamists have created their personality like a snake changing colors depending on the situation.
Eelamists have now realized that their voice can be effective when they drop LTTE temporarily. M.I.A did that clearly in her interview.
They can't make a clear case to the world by keeping LTTE on their shoulder.
So, LTTE is becoming Eelamists white van.
What I like to see is not the abandoning the ship, rather abandoning the motives.
They are waling out of the ship into the submarine - much more dangerous and effective state.
Guys
Upul and Mahen are the same. Compare the previous posts, both use the same words, lingo and the style most times ending with incomplete sentences...... open ended. the attitude is also the same.
To me this fellow is not a LTTE'r, he's taking the Mickey out of all and having great fun. taking all for a absolute ride.
It's evident if you look with an open mind. Always picks up a bit of information from sources that most bloggers don't read and adds sugar and salt.
not worth wasting time
@Ananda-USA is the biggest patriotic idiot on the forum and I can say it clearly since he has blocked my profile ID saying I am an LTTE agent. The poor guy has no heart to take any criticism.
@Upul said...
[ if you don't believe me, this was all reported by mangala samaraweera's defence watch.]
It is good thing Mangala Samaraweera is not the biggest traitor in Sri Lanka. No one can beat RW.
Why anyone wants to believe MS who has a different tone after he was kicked out?
I think I used the word 'idiot' for the first time against real Ananda-USA.
There are lot of foolish writers and I can forgive them since they are ones we did not educate enough through our university system. So, it is our collective fault if they sound so irrational.
If people like Ananda who came through prestigious anything in Sri Lank and calls himself a good Engineer, living in USA say irrational and ignorant things, I can't excuse such behavior. Therefore I have chosen to call the spade, spade.
really cold
I think mangala is worse than ranil..mangala is the one who made ranil into more of a traitor.....
and abt the eelamists ..once LTTe is gone it will be very difficult for the eelamists..u c the east is now out of reach for the eelamists as it is now a multi cultural ssociety.....so will the north turn in to when all the evicted muslims and sinhalese go back
eelam is impossible without a military victory against GOSL..
ReallyCold,
Unlike a few ViCoSa and 4th International monkeys who has done nothing useful, Ananda-USA is doing fully engaging the enemy in many fronts. That is why Pansilu Amman is posting as the fake Ananda-USA to tarnish his effort.
@Rover talking about M.I.A.
Americans aren't as stupid as Sri Lankans reading Tamilnet or Defencewire.
Over the years LTTE misinformed about Sri Lanka and finally the truth came out with the Oscar to LTTE - the worldwide ban.
M.I.A. will be remembered as a foolish rap queen.
Most of the 'patriots' have shown any interest in going after her using our freedom of expression.
However, there are people on the web do things on their own way.
If she isn't a rap star, she is just an illegal Tamil refugee none of the privileged Tamils will not have anything to do with her.
Finally, her fans will refuse her political messages.
kawru hari mata hukanawada? Pls meya!
nikan denne, gannako
can anybody shed some light in to the rumor that says a destroyed zlin has been found in Visuamadu?
kawru hari ReallyBig ekkenek karannako.. pls meya
epada?
( . )
kohomada? onada?
asaiyda?
bayaiyda gam-eke ikmanata yavi kiyala?
danna baya nathuwa meya..
pasapathenam ba meya..issaraha onathram...
giyada? hm hm yanna gedera... oyage thataha dan me pathata ewi..
Mage ammata hukapu vidiyatama hukanna..
valu Bra karan
100 million tamils will land to get thrir hoemland.
the Kittyu is gteting empty for robbers & hence desperate to show some result before feb 15 votes.
[@Ananda-USA is the biggest patriotic idiot on the forum and I can say it clearly since he has blocked my profile ID saying I am an LTTE agent. The poor guy has no heart to take any criticism.]
Reallycold,
I still believe you are LTTE agent along with Wijayapala. In fact, other LTTE sympathizers have balls but you.
mage ammata polima daanakota, thaththa kaa gahanawa epa epa kiyala mata kimba athulatama ahuna. Mage thaththa ponnayek novunanam? Kochchara hondada..
100 million tamils will land to get thrir hoemland.
yeah.. thats called Tamil Nadu
Guys,
You found any connections among these IDs -ReallyCold,ReallyWarm, and ReallyPussy.
Evolution of Realies.
ReallyCold--->ReallyPussy----->ReallyWarm
Haven't seen පුන්à·ƒිලකා for a while... Hands up idiot!
Ranil Wickramasinha mage thaththata godaak apahasa kala.. A vunata eka danne naha ekath ponnayek kiyala.
Cheers RealCold brother,
Have u got my email?
INDIA has come a long way towards recognizing Sri Lanka's sovereignty, but still chooses to treat the fate of Tamils in Sri Lanka as its responsibility.
They have to get rid of that illusion as well; before other countries (Pakistan, China, Bangladesh) adopt the same viewpoint with regard to Indian citizens
EDITORIAL:ExpressBuzz.com
Monday, February 02, 2009 11:51 AM
It’s about Tamils, not the Tigers
The latest bout of breast-beating and fistshaking that is going on over the fate of Sri Lanka’s Tamils, now that the Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam are penned into a tiny enclave in the north of the island, is a case of too little, too late. It may seem unfeeling not to join the state of shocked mourning that seems to have broken out suddenly all over Tamil Nadu, but the Sri Lankan army’s steady, inexorable progress in the war against the LTTE was never a secret. After the Tigers rejected the often broken truce that was in place until early last year, Colombo decided on a fight to the finish. That seems imminent now, and perhaps that is why all the hand-wringing and agonising.
The truth has been plain for all to see, but many of the state’s politicians and their followers have closed their eyes to it. There’s also been a confusion of identities. A number of the leaders of smaller and louder parties appear to have decided that Sri Lanka’s Tamils have only one representative, the LTTE, and that the Indian government has some sort of divine right to intervene whenever the going gets hot for the Tigers. The LTTE has encouraged this line, as witness its leader Vellupillai Prabhakaran’s somewhat cynical birthday expression of “goodwill” towards India.
The truth is that Sri Lanka is a sovereign nation and neither India nor anyone else has a right to interfere in what is essentially an internal matter. Nor have the Tigers been particularly welcoming of such initiatives unless they unquestioningly follow Prabhakaran’s line. The Indo-Sri Lanka Accord of 1987 failed, among other reasons, because the Tigers were not interested, and the Norwegian initiative, which resulted in a ceasefire in 2002, collapsed after mutual accusations of bad faith. The Tigers have been done in by their own hubris.
There is no doubt whatsoever that New Delhi has a duty to guarantee the Tamils of Sri Lanka.
They must have both the physical and the political space to live in dignity and security once the war is done. It is the least they can expect after more than 25 years of heart-rending conflict that has seen a generation displaced, and a new one growing up in its shadow. This is what political parties here should be promoting.
But a mystic fixation with the LTTE has left most of them without a plan. It is not too late.
But their present stance indicates a bankruptcy of thought that does not encourage optimism."
Dear Ananda,
I still believe you are LTTE agent along with Wijayapala. In fact, other LTTE sympathizers have balls but you.
Since when did I became a LTTE agent? Whoever talks sense becomes a LTTE agent when fake patriots can't stand critics.
Fake patriots were boasting s much about winning the war. What has happened now? They are too dumb they can't realise they can't win the war.
Mushe has started screaming about his harvesting nonsense again. Ministry of Defence has rejected him and his free advice. If he thinks shelling hospitals is a big thing he may be an extreme mental case of fake patriotism.
Now the government can't play patriotic crap anymore. War has stalled. They have to find a solution acceptable to Tamils.
[They have to find a solution acceptable to Tamils.]
What do you think the solution is?
Dear Veeran,
Will you come back to Sri Lanka and fight?
Don't think others would be any different.
[Mushe has started screaming about his harvesting nonsense again. Ministry of Defence has rejected him and his free advice. If he thinks shelling hospitals is a big thing he may be an extreme mental case of fake patriotism.]
Do not bash "Moshey Dyan" who is home of great ideas, after all, he was the one who said that you should kill some of the diaspora Tamils when they are in the rallies.
Vajira / Puran and others,
So there is a good news from Chalai due to LTTE earth has been over run.
Hoora to SLA. Peratamaa Yamuu. Theruwan Saranai.
Does any one know why Mahen goes with odd timing?
Ekkaa Nakathataa Wadda Dannee Nahaa? :)
"Await Sunday Defence Column at 15:17 GMT"
Wijeyapala (Profile ID=02182880136357160283) said...
"I still believe you are LTTE agent along with Wijayapala. In fact, other LTTE sympathizers have balls but you."
Please distinguish "Ananda" by Profile ID; these is the Real Ananda-USA and a Fake Ananda-USA.
I (the Real Ananda-USA) did not make the statement given ABOVE; Since you are a Fake Wijayapala, I suppose that does not matter. I have just now added you also to my Collapse Comments list. Bye!
Fake Ananda-USA will put his ID on his collapse comments and he will prove that he is in the same league as Sam Perrera.
@wijayapala [Now the government can't play patriotic crap anymore. War has stalled. They have to find a solution acceptable to Tamils.]
Grossly mistaken. War is not stalling, which is continuing in the required pace. And only thing GoSL and SLDF has to do now is to find a way to release hostages from the killer VP and the LTTE menace.
Some one has stolen my name. Thank you. That shows I'm doing well. If anyone wants to discuss matters in detail please mail me. My email is af7802@yahoo.com.
what is left is a mass scale hostage situation, probably the biggest after WW2. SLDF is the only force capable of achieving this target, in the world. Not speculating, but derived from the facts throughout.
Wijayapala,
I totally agree with you brother!
Singalams has to accept Tamil aspirations and grievances. They have to give us our homeland.
Please continue to attack these fake self proclaimed patriot bastards.
perein,
thats good news indeed.. is that from your source?
wij said
veeran Will you come back to Sri Lanka and fight?
i think not.. hes busy setting fire to brainwashed youth up in chennai LOLz
[Some one has stolen my name. Thank you. That shows I'm doing well. If anyone wants to discuss matters in detail please mail me. My email is af7802@yahoo.com.]
What about Ananda-USA's wife wants to send a panty to you, so what are the shipping ways you prefer such as FedEx, UPS or any other carrier?
Saul,
Check your mail. You can drop a mail at af7802@yahoo.com.
Duzz,
Yep related to Chalai macho, don't forget my source is posting here too. :)
No related to Mahen's Nakath time
Tamils were pushed to this path by Singalese from 56. Every action has an equal and opposite reaction.
Give us our Eelam and we will not interfere with Singalams again. Militancy to be turned in to a legitimate Eelam army.
mahinda, gota & sarath giving eelam to tamils.
announcement will be made
on the 4th feb.
ha ha ha!
@B#1
[First try to rescue the innocent tamils from]
are you crazy!! we need them to cover our asses from the army bullets
tamils will never get even independant provincial councils.
NEVER!!!
they'll all be controlled by sinhala army/stf thru karuna & future defectors.
MAJORITY RULES! get used to it.
blame LTTE.
ha ha ha!
wow.. this fake bhairav and fake wijayapala is very hard to detect.. very close to real ones. But not the fake ananda-usa who can't write more than two sentences..
wijayapala,
Do u think that i voluntarily left ceylon ?
I was hounded, treated badly & have given the same back.
Last time when i came, ask two sinhala boys & girls as to what treatment they got from me.
Fake Ananda-USA(ID 14570385733919207119)
Same league or not, you are just a terrorist. Low life scum like you have no place in the civilized world. You have a place already in the unmarked graves reserved for faceless terrorists. Please proceed knowing your destiny.
we are getting Eelam if you like it or not. People in mulativ are ready to die for it, if not we make it happen.
you singalams will have to accept we are very close to declaration of Ealam, probably by 4th feb.
"UPUL said"
"Any monkey with flash editing knowledge can edit that map to make ltte held territory shrink.
whatever remains of the 35k sla will be wiped out, no question about that now with western air help...."
Keep dream alive even at the 1th hour.
Sri Lankan official says army shelled hospital
COLOMBO, Sri Lanka – Three artillery barrages struck a hospital in Sri Lanka's chaotic war zone, slamming into its pediatrics ward and its women's wing and killing many patients, the region's top health official and international aid groups said.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090202/ap_on_re_as/as_sri_lanka_civil_war_67
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Paedatrics ward; now that is low.
Hospital not shelled - Hullugalle
MCNS Director General Lakshman Hullugalle says the hospital in Pudukudiruppu has not been shelled and reports to that effect are mere rumors and there are no civilian casualties. He says military operations are continuing.
Updated @ 02/02/2009 12:14 PM
Veeran dreaming
Veeran dreaming
Veeran dreaming
Veran said
" TAF is transporting thousands of tigers to bury SLA in viswamedu "
Genocide...1346,
:p
Don't you think Tamil N(M)adu is the only solution for all? Tamils who live in south (99%) support Indian Team when they play with SL. I heard sounds of fire crackers when Ind won the match.
I feel very sad about my country when fucking tamils behave like this.
@echolalia
Now who says SLA is not on genocide? our plan is working (though we loose few of our wounded, whom anyway is just liability to us) and you Singalam can never outrun our war strategy.
echolalia,
Pediatric ward? Is this where LTTE is grabbing it's latest volunteers these days. Despite the fact that the story of shelling is another story cooked by LTTE terrorists, it seems that LTTE has the innate tendancy to spin stories around child soldiers. Please give up your terrorist traits and join the civilized world. You need lots of rehabilitation before joining the normanl world.
Guys,
I beg you to be patient for moment, please allow me to congratulate Spaniards Rafael Nadal for wining Australian open final over Roger Federrar. I couldn’t see it live but recorded the full 05 games and watched it just now. What a game of tennis. One of the best finals and second only to 1984 Boris Becker Vs Ivon Lendle at Wimbledon.
Sorry to see Federrara with tears after loosing to Nadal four times in arow.
Nadal at his best and almost like Brig. Shawendra Silva who is giving hell of a fight to beat terrorists from Sri Lankan soil.
Cheers to both of them!!!
PS: sorry taking your attention away for a moment.
{{ really cold
I think mangala is worse than ranil..mangala is the one who made ranil into more of a traitor.....
}}
It is better Mangala is hanging around Ranil. MS will reduce more and more voters for UNP and UNP will never come to power.
it felt great to find the army bomber assasin Mendis was screwed with balls in his mouth.
hahahahaha
Indian up country tamils love to support Eelam tamils in their macrh
to nationsihp.
Genocide
balagena.. track eka paninda epa..
@Ninja
what track?
Lalith
I think we need a national government....
its this UNP SLFP diviosn that has held especially the sinhalese back....
{{wijayapala said...
Dear Ananda,
I still believe you are LTTE agent along with Wijayapala. In fact, other LTTE sympathizers have balls but you.
Since when did I became a LTTE agent? Whoever talks sense becomes a LTTE agent when fake patriots can't stand critics.
Fake patriots were boasting s much about winning the war. What has happened now? They are too dumb they can't realise they can't win the war.
Mushe has started screaming about his harvesting nonsense again. Ministry of Defence has rejected him and his free advice. If he thinks shelling hospitals is a big thing he may be an extreme mental case of fake patriotism.
Now the government can't play patriotic crap anymore. War has stalled. They have to find a solution acceptable to Tamils.}}
As most of Tamils, Sinhalese, Muslims & burgers living in SL know that LTTP does not accept any solution other than a seperate EELAM.
First LTTP shoudd be militariry defeated.
Then we can start for a solution.
If you do not believe in this I believe that You, Wijepala is a LTTP.
@veeran
don't disclose anything yet. keep a low profile. This Singalam fools don't know that up country friends are waiting to join with our course. By the way it is just a call they needed from our leader, ready to declare up-country independence under LTTE dominance. ssh.. keep this secret.
Genocide,
Your good leader Pukeharan did exactly what we want. He killed Tamil liberation moment completely for another 300 years.
We should give a Veaspille a ranaviru medal before roasting him alive.
what is the problem that only the northern tamils have...that other minorities.(muslims,Up country tamils,eastern tamils,Bughers) do not have the only problem according to my view is racism......
Ninja and Sam Perera,
The Red Cross does not make a habit of spreading "rumours". If you knew anything about the ICRC, you'd know it is one one of the most cautious and conservative NGOs, in terms of releasing public statements. The hospital was shelled, according not only to the Red Cross, and the UN, but even the Sri Lankan government's own regional health representative (who, by the way, concludes that the Sri Lankan army was the likely culprit).
It's a shame that your love of bloodshed has convinced you that killing babies is a public service.
@Rana
you only see a future of 300 years, foolish short-sighted. our course is so great and we don't mind waiting double that.
it's better to die young than being raped by LTTE & die like stray puppies on a bunker peeing without pampers.
ha ha ha!
{{Genocide ™ said...
Wijayapala,
I totally agree with you brother!
Singalams has to accept Tamil aspirations and grievances. They have to give us our homeland.
Please continue to attack these fake self proclaimed patriot bastards }}
Tiger Genocide
Are you asking for a seperate country, (Tamil aspirations and grievances) ?
If so you get it from TN not in SL
Is that secret plane to do something on National Day?
A prediction:
When Mr President's speech going on, LTTE will take off the first Zlin from Mula towards Colombo. Few minits later the second plane which carried LTTE high profiles will take away from SL while the military attention on the first Zlin.
@Lalith
[If so you get it from TN not in SL]
No, TN is so crowded and heavily polluted. Our brothers and sisters in TN shit on the road and walk over it at the same time. We need a fresh land like Sri Lankan beaches. you see our kind has this age old habit of shitting in public, so SL beaches will give them a free flushing opportunity, which improves their hygiene.
I coudl not wait til Feb 4th to see the firworks in Colombo.
hahahahaha
Free shit zones with natural flushing is a dire grievance of Tamils, you see. So we do whatever to chase you fool singalam and take control of 2/3 rd of the beaches, just for this purpose.
හය්යො මෙ à·„ොර Genocide යකා මාà·€ කෑà·€!
rana,
/*
sorry taking your attention away for a moment.
*/
this is unacceptable. please refrain from posting outside the subject.
Genocide
If SL tamils have a dire grievance, that would be open air shit zones like you have in all over TN, very correct.
Genetic Suicide [aka Genocide];
you only see a future of 300 years, foolish short-sighted. our course is so great and we don't mind waiting double that
If you are talking about terrorism after 600 years, we don't mind you waiting for that.
You guys are not short or long sighted, but dream-sighted, day version.
Genetic Suicide [aka Genocide];
you only see a future of 300 years, foolish short-sighted. our course is so great and we don't mind waiting double that
If you are talking about terrorism after 600 years, we don't mind you waiting for that.
You guys are not short or long sighted, but dream-sighted, day version.
{{Genocide ™ said...
@Lalith
[If so you get it from TN not in SL]
No, TN is so crowded and heavily polluted. Our brothers and sisters in TN shit on the road and walk over it at the same time. We need a fresh land like Sri Lankan beaches. you see our kind has this age old habit of shitting in public, so SL beaches will give them a free flushing opportunity, which improves their hygiene.
}}
You are still thinking about shitting. That is why we don not give any land in SL. Once LTTP is completely defeated, we develop tourism in all beaches in North & East with other tamils (excluding peelamists).
Lalith's opinion poll.
Who will catch the Fat Pig
1 59
2 58
3 57
4 53
5 55
6 TF2
7 TF3
8 TF4
9 Other Division
10 Escape
Please make a selection in the Lalith's Opinion Poll.
I am collecting the names.
The winner will be annouced in two weeks.
Situation as at 02-02-09
VP's pressure 167 122
VP's weight 136 KG
Aiyamperumal 01 KM
ALANKULAM 01 KM
Ampalavanpokkanai 01 KM
Chalai 00 KM 55 Captured on 25-01-09
Chilarattai 01 KM
Chu'ndikku'lam 00 KM - 55 Captured on 14-01-09
Chuthanthirapuram 01 KM
Dharmapuram 00 KM - 58 Captured on 13-01-09
IRANAIIRUPPAIKULAM 01 KM
IRANAMADU East 01 KM - 57 Captured on 15-01-09
Kaddaikadu 01 KM - 58 Captured on 15-01-09
KALAMADUKULAM 01 KM - 57 Captured on 17-01-09
KULAWEDDIDAL 01 KM - TF 2 Captured on 12-01-09
Kalmadukulam 01 KM
Ka'ndaava'lai 01 KM 58 Captured on 18-01-09
KARUPPADDAMURIPPU 01 KM
Keridattadu 00 KM - TF 4 Captured on 12-01-09
Kevil 00 KM - 53 Captured on 11-01-09
KULAWEDDIDAL 01 KM
Kuravilkulama 01 KM
Mamulai 01 KM
Marathampuval 01 KM
Masar 01 KM
Mullativu 00 KM - 59 Captured on 25-01-09
Murusamoddai 00 KM - 58 Captured on 12-01-09
Moongkilaa'ru 01 KM
Olumadu 01 KM
Palamattalan 01 KM
PALLEYADIRAKKAM 01 KM
PANDISUNDAN 01 KM
Periyakulam 01 KM
PIRAPPAVADDUVAN 01 KM - 59 Captured on 17-01-09
Pu'liyampokka'nai 01 KM - 58 Captured on 17-01-09
Puliyansekkaran 01 KM
Punnainiravi 01 KM
Puththukudirippu 01 KM
Ramanadhapuram 01 KM - 57 Captured on 16-01-09
Sinnaittimadu 01 KM - 57 Captured on 18-01-09
Tanniyuttu 00 KM - 59 Captured on 12-01-09
THADDAMODDAI 01 KM
Theravikulam 01 KM
Theravikulam 01 KM
Thonikal 01 KM
Udaiyaarkaddu 01 KM
Udayankattukulam 01 KM - TF 2 Captured on 17-01-09
Vaddakkachchi 00 KM - 58 Captured on 12-01-09
Vannankulam 01 KM
Vellamullivaikal 01 KM
Vellikandal 01 KM
Vishwamadu 01 KM - 58 Captured on 28-01-09
VP's Asshole ?? KM
The following program explains the current war.
WHILE ( area held by LTTP > 0 AND number_of_LTTP_carders > 0)
1 LTTP stay with Civillian
2 Fire at SLA
3 SLA responses
4 Civillian & some LTTP get killed & injured
5 Dispora supporters & TamilNut publish no of casualties in the web & news papers
6 TN jockers & other LTTP supportes in other countries start agitating by protesting, fasting & other crap and asking for Ceasefire
7 International Community & India ignore
8 SLGO ignores, MR/GR/SF ignore & continue to attack LTTP and defeat
9 LTTP withdraws with Civillians (By force)
10 SLA takes over the town/areas
11 Mahen & Peter write stories about tactical withdrawals
12 Dispora supporters believe in tactical withdrawal and keep the dream alive
13 We read Mahen & Peter blogs and laugh from the ASS
Jump_to_sea() OR self_immolation() OR swallow_cn()
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{{MULAITTIVU: SEVERAL rounds of heavy fighting erupted in UDAYARKATTUKULAM and UDAYARKATTU areas Sunday (01) between Task Force-II and Task Force-III troops and terrorists during Sunday (01) where troops were able to find out a foreign-made huge transmission/communication tower, kept folded perhaps for future use.
Task Force-111 troops after intense clashes in UDAYARKATTU area first spotted the LTTE camp and saw this huge communication tower, about 200 ft in length.
Troops also found seven T-56 weapons, thirty rounds of ammunition, four hand grenades, one 1210 lorry, ninety three anti personnel mines, two I-com radio sets, a number of kerosene barrels and five LTTE dead bodies.
Troops captured one MPMG (Multi Purpose Machine Gun) barrel, one 12.7 anti aircraft gun barrel, five T-56 weapons, one LMG (Light Machine Gun), fifteen RPG (Rocket Propeller Grenade) rounds, fifty anti personnel mines, three huts, occupied by the terrorists, one excavator, one container, one van and one motorbike.
A few soldiers injured in the fighting in those two areas were referred for medical treatment.
Five soldiers had gone reportedly missing during the battle. Search operations commenced to trace their whereabouts are still on.
The same day, 57, 58 and 59 Division troops found one LTTE dead body, three claymore mines, two televisions, one computer, twenty five detonators and two T-56 weapons from VISUAMADU and WELIOYA areas Sunday (01).
A large number of terrorists were confirmed killed in the fighting.
Meanwhile, MIG 27 fighter jets pounded an LTTE gathering point and a camp, about 3 km north of UDAYARKATTUKULAM tank Sunday (01) around 10.10 p.m}}
@Lalith
[You are still thinking about shitting]
Of course we are. You will know the grievance of not having an opportunity to shit the way you like it to be. We like open air shitting by genes, and we see our brother and sisters having this freedom exercised in all over TamilNadu. In fact this is the main Tamil grievance which boiled up to an armed struggle in seventies. This is the very reason we need 2/3rd of beaches instead of the dry inlands. you fools don't understand this, not in fifties not now and not ever.
aiaiyo we have two genocides as well..
05932442836652311998
14161049906907631346
ha ha fakelageth fakela.. ha ha
@Lalith
Don't waste this column pasting stuff from allover. Try to use your brains for a change, and put the link there, or else try to write something on your own.
à·„ික් à·„ික්
200ft hight mobile communication tower found
(thank you die-ass-pora)
http://www.lankaenews.com/English/news.php?id=7080
Agitations in Jaffna urging LTTE to release civilians
http://www.lankaenews.com/English/news.php?id=7078
Mamai original Genocide ™
Anyway I quit.. bye bye
MR is RW's son!
-Sagala Rathnayaka
http://www.lankadeepa.lk/
who is this à·„ික් à·„ික් guy??
I quit too...
B1,
as you predicts ltte high profile trying to escape on the 4th february.they do something to divert attention.the plane that landed in ltte area is part of this operation.
SF, ares and stopterro.. info guys info
http://www.lankanewspapers.com/news/2009/2/38719_space.html
Protection for hospitals and civilians in a war is paramount and should be demanded and considered as a norm. I do not believe that the government has any need to target a hospital. If they had deliberately targeted a hospital then that is barbaric.
Nevertheless if I wee taken a hostage among many others at some point I would be wishing my government to interfere even with violence even though I would loose my life, since there is hope for many others. You can say bana to terrorists they would not understand. You can plea to them. They do not budge. You can appeal to them they would mock. In such a situation even if I were a hostage I would want the Government to respond in the right language with a carful plan to minimize deaths among hostages and military personnel. LTTE menace had passed that critical point long time ago. There will be civilian deaths. There will be military personnel deaths. Yet it has to be done. That is the cruelest aspect war; sometimes we cannot avoid it and it is forced on us.
It should be a priority to minimize civilian deaths and then military deaths, but LTTE has to be finished. It is noble to require absolute care for hospitals and civilians but it is another thing to indicate the war is futile and needs to be stopped because of these mishaps. Then we are only supporting terrorism. The most serious grievance we have in Sri Lanka at the moment is LTTE. By shelling a hospital government has more to loose than gaining anything. The ball is in LTTE court as India pointed out about civilian safety. ICRC may have noble goals but they may also fall victim to vicious and cunning propaganda of LTTE. Having said that if the Government has targeted the hospital deliberately I strongly condemn that but still the war has to be continued with maximum care possible for civilians.
/If they had deliberately targeted a hospital then that is barbaric./
There are many hospitals in NE which were under LTTE but run by GSL doctors, staff, medicine and funding. From Vakarei to Mullathiv following is the format of the propaganda.
1. LTTE say SLA fire at hospital and xx patients dead
2. Int. media says "SLA fire at hospital xx civilians dead"
3. GSL deny or claim LTTE fired
4. HR champions, NGOs etc shout at GSL
5. Diasspora say genocide
6. Some GSL supporters use an IF and comdemn
7. SLA liberate the area
8. Nothing happened to hospital
9. No one talks about past "attack"
10. Repeat from No 1 for the next hospital.
Ninja
Thanks! That is a good ammendment for my comment and it tells the whole story.
Thanks!
ladies !!!!
Pls look @ this plan and tell if it is possible :)
Things to consider
* Plan has to be set in motion at least 4 months in advance from current date
The plan
1. Dismantle the LTTP plain/ Plains
2. Smuggle them out of Sri lanka by means of a ship ( the way they came in at first place )
3.Keep the ship at sea for a considerable time in the busy shipping route
4. smuggle the plain parts into the island from the south ( possible places -Yala,Hambanthota)
5. On the 4th fly them to independence day parade !!!
Just a thought !!!! if it is a viable plan,
Ninja,
Bull. Your sequence begins with the LTTE claiming civilian deaths. But notice that in this case, the first group to raise the alarm was not the LTTE but the Red Cross . In fact the LTTE does not seem to have yet made a comment.
From the BBC article (currently the top news item):
Nine people have been killed by shells which hit a hospital in a rebel-held area of north-east Sri Lanka, the Red Cross says.
The hospital, in the town of Puthukkudiyiruppu, Mullaitivu district, was hit three times in 24 hours, aid officials said.
UN spokesman Gordon Weiss told the BBC the shells had hit a crowded paediatric unit. It is not clear who fired them.
Sri Lanka's army has denied it was behind the shelling.
There has been no comment so far from the rebel group, the Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam (LTTE).
Echolalia:
No one in right mind would condone shelling of a hospital.
But, tell me are you saying that the war should be stopped or continued with great care. Thanks!
Swranajith Udan,
I am against the war.
Echolalia:
"In fact the LTTE does not seem to have yet made a comment"
On what grounds you say so?
A two story, six roomed mansion with underground bunker, where LTTE leader lived with his family was found in Visuamadu North.
Two LTTE Leaders; Lakshman and Wimal, critically wounded.
But the war is against the Separatism.
hiru,
On the grounds that they have not released a statement, to my knowledge. The BBC further testifies to this in their piece:
"There has been no comment so far from the rebel group, the Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam (LTTE)." (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/7863538.stm)
More important than all of that, one of the government's own regional health officials, who is on the ground, says the shells were likely fired by the SLA: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090202/ap_on_re_as/as_sri_lanka_civil_war_67.
"...Ogre,
What do you mean by "Death By Bullet, 42/3dSF"..
I think it is the Motto of 3SF (Special Forces)
"Upul said...
Any monkey with flash editing..."
So why Tamilnet telling of shrinking terriotiry/ Then why no body there to accpet LTTE bodies in Mulativ..?
And fianlly if all the areas are with LTTE.. why the fuck LTTE only in CHalai and Pu'pppu?
/ echolalia said...
Ninja,
Bull. Your sequence begins with the LTTE claiming civilian deaths. But notice that in this case, the first group to raise the alarm was not the LTTE but the Red Cross . In fact the LTTE does not seem to have yet made a comment./
Oh ya.. I forgot that totally independent red cross work in 100% democratic LTTE areas.. And BBC knows the truth (which is same as tamilnut version) as always..
Just take a print out of previous BBC, red cross reports and forst go to Vakarei hospital and verify. (You can talk to people.) I don't think there were hospital in Mavil Aru. When you complete all the previous hospitals time will be right for you to check Pudukuduiruppu hospital. OR just believe your red cross and BBC if you don't believe LTTE which is easy thing to do and what your mind like to believe (what you do now).
Upul said...
"..Every rightful Eelam Tamil is a Tiger and most Tigers are Tamil..."
[single] : this justify the killing of the people in safe-zone becasue all of them are Tigers and we have to kill terrorits. And some luck tigers are in Canada and UK sipping beers while others getting dies by their money.
"..[Upul]So thats why Rajapakse pursues genocide on the tamils to destroy the LTTE.."
[Single] : Good MR. President kill all the tigers even if they are Civilian cloths.
"..[Upul}.. But Tamils in TN aren't silent spectators..."
[Single} TN has the biggest Tamil population and huge land area to accomodate All SL Tamlis and Dispora Tamils. Same culture same support. So why dont you establish the Eelem there. It is Logistically the best chocie.
Ninja,
So you're arguing that the Red Cross, the UN, and the government's own health representative in the region, are being forced by the LTTE to invent stories about civilian casualties?
Talk about drawing a long bow!
/More important than all of that, one of the government's own regional health officials, who is on the ground, says the shells were likely fired by the SLA:/
governments own health official.. mm can't be tamil peelaam goernment.. ehh Hope at least a non-fake official unlike;
/AP kills Sri Lanka-Civil War story
By Associated Press
7:53 AM EST, January 28, 2009
COLOMBO, Sri Lanka — Kill the Sri Lanka-Civil War story, V5414. The source denies he wrote the letter that said more than 300 civilians had been killed and 1,000 wounded in fighting in northern Sri Lanka./
echolalia,
hope Ninja has cleared your doubts
Puran,
Praba seems to be topless
"his shirt too found in the same palce"
:) :)
echolalia the LTTE terrorist,
It is a nice try to propogate LTTE lies by repeating it over and over. Please show me where ICRC making statements about such allegations other than the world famous Tamilnut who shotdown 3 crew MiG27s.
/ echolalia said...
Ninja,
So you're arguing that the Red Cross, the UN, and the government's own health representative in the region, are being forced by the LTTE to invent stories about civilian casualties?/
Unless you are just born, any one knows this. Please tell me name of a one living person in red cross, UN, NGOs or government officers that work in LTTE aeras and against or at least not obedient to LTTE.
According to Miltary,
Two LTTE leaders Wimal of the Charls Anthony brigade and Laxhman critically injured in Army attack, West of Putthu. - JNW News
Ninja,
What does that have to do with the article I cited?
If you're saying AP is unreliable because it made an error (which it later retracted), then any news source is unreliable (unless you can name a news source that has never ever erred).
/hiru said...
echolalia,
hope Ninja has cleared your doubts./
Its really not doubts.. If my memory is correct echolalia is from Tamilnadu (indian citizen). Be careful when you listen to Vaiko and the clan.. you also may end up with petrol..!!
Machan la,
Adath sahenna casualty enawa lu.
I also heard the medical officer in Puttu hospital giving the interview to that Koti david in BBC sandeshaya. The MO said several injured civilians were admitted to to the hospital. The next logical question that the interviewer should have asked was "how do you know that they are civilian and not LTTE fighters in civilian clothing?" Obviously he wouldn't ask that as he only wants to communicate to the world that the civilians are targeted.
Ninja,
Can you cite any substantiated case of the Red Cross or the UN inventing stories, on the demands of the LTTE?
You seem to have a profound misunderstanding of the way ICRC functions. The ICRC is a strictly non-political organisation. They almost never issue anything bordering on a political statement, because they know it would compromise their neutrality, and thus their ability to care for the sick.
ok reliability of news sources..
FYI, worlds most reliable news source - tamilnet.com (also check tamilnet.tv) ha ha
Re. BBC, AP, etc our concern is limited to their reporting regarding our conflict. Past experience shows they are biased to LTTE. That's my opinion, you may have your own.
Echolalia:
Thanks for answering.
"I am against the war."
I gathered that from your tone, that is why I asked.
At times opposition to war may equal support for terrorism.
Your stand is a godsend to LTTE. I will not label you as a LTTE supporter.
Also, I do not believe that any conversation with you will lead to a fruitful
exhange of ideas.
Tahnks!
Swarnajith Udana
puran,
Ape ewunda thuwala? Koi hariye giya satanakinda? Unta budu saranai.
[The next logical question that the interviewer should have asked was "how do you know that they are civilian and not LTTE fighters in civilian clothing?]
That obvious question will not be asked on BBC, CNN or any other media, since their ulterior motive is to spread the other message, "killing the innocent". Although it is not a political comment, Gotabhaya was right by the heart when he says he will send those buggers home.
DW,
Any NEWS about today battle with LTTE ??
Echolalia:
Even if I do not label you as a
LTTE terrorist or a terrorist supporter but you know if you are. If you are not still it is a godsend to LTTE.
Thank you1
echolalia the LTTE terrorist,
Please show us where ICRC is telling that SLA shelled a hospital other than Tamilnut. As I said earlier, you are repeating lies.
/Can you cite any substantiated case of the Red Cross or the UN inventing stories, on the demands of the LTTE?/
Obviously not. If yes, I will go to court. It was my opinion. And also you expect LTTE and their friends to these things in a way that we can produce substantiated case..?? Too much for the world most innovative ruthless terrorist organization.
Can you cite any substantiated case of the Red Cross or the UN NOT inventing stories, on the demands of the LTTE? Anyway, you are free to have your LTTE loving feelings and if you are waiting for substantiated cases to change your LTTE friendly ideas you will not get it, probably.
In fact this hospital story must be fabricated one. Who is there to verify?
ICRC is another diehard lover of LTTP. All their local workers are tigers. One tiger who was arrested by army has revealed that they have smuggled Arms and ammunitions in Redcross vehicles. When tigers ponna vesa getting hard time only thing talking is civilian casualities.
I heard Mahaveera killers family blocking and spy other civilians who try to escape.Tiger vesas kill those civilians and put as they killed by army.
When clearly analyze someone killed by shell and one killed by bullet is identical. But those pics in tamilfck.com clearly indicate those are killed by bullets. It's mean LTTP killed them. But ICRC all INGO'S NGO'S knows this fact but war in Sri Lanka is money mine for them. These bastards not want our people to live in peace and harmony.
If the war finish there will be no ICRC so it's a big loss for them.
Wow, according to the updated map in the Army.lk, 58 and 55 now can go for the kill in Chalai
Only chalai an pudukuduiruppu remains
Ninja,
I'm not from Tamil Nadu, and I'm not Indian.
I disagree that the AP and BBC have a pro-Tiger bias, but in any case, that is irrelevant here, since the ICRC and the UN are the ones reporting on the hospitals being shelled. You'll be hard pressed to prove a pro-Tiger bias by the ICRC.
Swranajith Udana,
I think that the war is terrorism. Aside from the use of heavy weapons and aerial bombardment, which inevitably kills civilians, there are the forced 'disappearances' in the East and Jaffna (and soon, in the Vanni). Not to mention the targetting of dissidents in the South, especially journalists. I'll never support that, and, in my opinion, no conscienable person should.
The ICRC did not say which side was responsible for the shelling, but the army denied involvement, saying it was carried out by the rebels in a bid to "discredit" the military. - AFP
echolalia,
Can you remember the date 03-02-2008?
Have they (ICRC) condemned this attack?
Sri Lanka's army has denied it was behind the shelling.
There has been no comment so far from the rebel group, the Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam (LTTE). - BBC
{{[You are still thinking about shitting]
Of course we are. You will know the grievance of not having an opportunity to shit the way you like it to be. We like open air shitting by genes, and we see our brother and sisters having this freedom exercised in all over TamilNadu. In fact this is the main Tamil grievance which boiled up to an armed struggle in seventies. This is the very reason we need 2/3rd of beaches instead of the dry inlands. you fools don't understand this, not in fifties not now and not ever.
}}
The best place for your guys(LTTP & Follwers) is the TN not SL. You all belong to shitting family in TN.
I first thought Jaffna Tamils are much educated peolple than those in TN & Indian Tamils in plantatations in SL.
I can believe if the Indian Tamils working in the plantation request this.
Anyway the best place is TN
Guys,
There had been 71 casualties yesterday including 3 officers. Most of them P3 casualty.
No info about the dead.
we should as soon as possible should make the puthukuduirruppu hospital unaccessible.
once all hospitals are taken, tigers will die in thousands.
/echolalia said...
Ninja,
I'm not from Tamil Nadu, and I'm not Indian./
ok sorry about that.
Re. ICRC/BBC - its your opinion. Usually UNPers don't say sirasa is pro-UNP, SLFPers don't say lakehouse is pro-GSL.
Re.SU
You are just trying to repeat your dose with WIjayapala. LTTE also like you - they need GSL to be 100% perfect and they are perfect - nothing wrong - by their definition. So funny..
Ninja,
You're the one levelling the charge that the ICRC is biased, so the honus is on you to prove it. You're now saying that it's impossible to prove. I agree; it's impossible to prove, because it isn't true.
Before you continue rubbishing the ICRC, you should remember that they (and the UN) haven't actually attributed blame. They have simply reported on the fact of civilian deaths.
The BBC, AP, ICRC and UN are all running with this story. The local SL government health representative corroborates it. 5 independent sources believe the story is creditable, including at least 3 sources.
""Upul said...
if you don't believe me, this was all reported by mangala samaraweera's defence watch.............""
Aha ! So that is your "Tamil" source? OMG!! In that case we definitely believe you !! LOL!!
Sam Perera,
Kohe ewada Danne na macho.
Adath sahenna genawa lu.
Heta honda news ekak ei lu.
Genocide like Ameba
B#1,
Remember, the prime function of the ICRC is to provide emergent health care in war zones, NOT to provide a running commentary on every act of violence in a civil war. As I said before, it tries very hard to maintain its impartiality, so it avoids making partisan statements. That's why it hasn't blamed any party (GOSL or LTTE) for today's attack on the hospital.
Having said that, for your information, the ICRC did refer to the 2008 LTTE bombings, in this report: http://www.icrc.org/web/eng/siteeng0.nsf/htmlall/sri-lanka-news-201207?opendocument.
@echolalia
You have forgotten the fact that they have attributed this so easily for CIVILIAN deaths and casualties. The obvious question was not answered. How they know the victims are Civilians?
That is why we have a fair doubt on these guys as they are biased.
I added Ninjas steps as below.
While (Gov_hospitals_in_LTTE_Area > 0)
{
1. LTTE say SLA fire at hospital and xx patients dead
2. Int. media says "SLA fire at hospital xx civilians dead"
3. GSL deny or claim LTTE fired
4. HR champions, NGOs etc shout at GSL
5. Diasspora say genocide
6. Some GSL supporters use an IF and comdemn
7. SLA liberate the area
8. Nothing happened to hospital
9. No one talks about past "attack"
10. Repeat from No 1 for the next hospital.
|
LTTE is finished
it really bugs tamils for not having their own homeland. ha ha ha!
well, it's not our fucking problem.
SL is the wrong address fuckers!! this is sinhala country for 2,500 years.
it'll stay that way forever. tough luck coolies!
btw try shit nadu, where u were imported by brits. or at least follow the shit nadu example with kerosene & become a fried hero. now that's a permanent solution.
ha ha ha!
Moshe Dyan
"once all hospitals are taken, tigers will die in thousands"
Pro LTTP media then soon name them as innocent civilians
Ninja please read my posts.
I did not ask the
Government to be 100% perfect.
That is your interpretation.
Wars cannot be conducted like that. Wijeyapala also said that. I require them to take the maximum care. That is all. Do you want them to be casual in that aspect? I refuse to believe that you are that callous.
Are you saying that I could not hide my stripes?
Then may be I need to work harder TO HIDE my stripes.
Oh I have failed my mission!
So sad!
kavee,
What do you mean, "How they know the victims are Civilians?" The paediatrics ward of a hospital was hit! Inpatient children were killed .
@echolalia
ah, you are referring to the recent shelling then. Well, who says it is army shells? however i doubt ICRC,BBC,UN or some other guys have already declared it is GoSL shell, since they have on-scene forensics.
My Comment at ExpressBuzz.com
This Editorial states "The truth is that Sri Lanka is a sovereign nation and neither India nor anyone else has a right to interfere in what is essentially an internal matter." Then it asserts that "There is no doubt whatsoever that New Delhi has a duty to guarantee the Tamils of Sri Lanka." These two statements are CONTRADICTORY. If the second duty is to be FULFILLED, then the first truth must be VIOLATED! If these CONTRADICTORY PRINCIPLES are applied to India by PAKISTAN & BANGLADESH on behalf of over 250 million Indian Moslems, and by CHINA on behalf of the mongoloid peoples of Northeast and the Northwest frontiers of India, the INTEGRITY & SOVEREIGNTY of INDIA will be at RISK. INDIA HAS NO DUTY TO TAMILS IN SRI LANKA...THAT IS THE SOLE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE SOVEREIGN NATION OF SRI LANKA.
/You're the one levelling the charge that the ICRC is biased, so the honus is on you to prove it. You're now saying that it's impossible to prove. I agree; it's impossible to prove, because it isn't true./
"because it isn't true" ha ha please prove.
/They have simply reported on the fact of civilian deaths./
Civilains die - not only civilians any living creature will die. If that simple what to report?
Do you have a proof for 1. they are civilians 2. Not LTTE fighters 3. They are dead 4. Dead not due to other reasons 5. Dead due to military fire 6. Dead due to military fire from SLA
FYI, I (or any one else) can't "prove" most (if not all) of the things on a blog happening in wanni. I (and every one else) am saying my opinion.
May be you should explain what is acceptable to you as a "proof" in a blog.
Ah, I found it
{The top health official in the area says at least two of the barrages appeared to have been mounted by the Sri Lankan army.}
See i told you, they are more advanced, the health official has forensics qualifications together with arsenal and military expertise. He has identified the shells were fired from SLDF guns. Wonder he can identify the gun and the solder by the shell, so we can ask for a court marshal.
kavee,
Exactly, the UN and ICRC haven't attributed the shelling to the GOSL or LTTE. The ICRC especially would probably never do such a thing, since it would compromise their operations.
HOWEVER, this AP report suggests that the the shell was fired by the SLA: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090202/ap_on_re_as/as_sri_lanka_civil_war_67
OMG!.. What a sounds.. SLAF just did another rehearsal.
kavee,
I doubt a court martial is on the cards. Three barrages in 24 hours; the orders probably came from above.
I'd like to be proven wrong though.
job of icrc is to treat asshole wounds of coolie tamil peelamists.
not to cry for terrorists like hanuman monkeys with their tails on fire.
ha ha ha!
SU
You misunderstood me. echolalia had an arguement with wijayapala while ago and I was referring it. I tried to say what he is saying with you was same as what he was arguing with wijayapala. I was addressing to him (not u) about that.
the F7's & the KFIR's have a lower growling pitch.
the mig 27's have a distinctly high pitched scream. WHOOOOOSH!
boy, they really tear the sky apart flying very low level at very high speed.
FANTASTIC!
Ninja,
None of us are in the Vanni, so yes, we all go by news reports. However, it seems that when you disagree with a report, or it makes your conscience uneasy, you dismiss it as "biased".
UN and ICRC health workers in the hospital have confirmed that civilians were killed, in the hospital, including the paediatrics ward. If a shell hits a paediatrics ward, guess what - children die. That includes children who are too young to even know what a Tiger is.
Even if LTTE fighters were in the hospital being treated, it's a war crime to attack the hospital (especially when there are civilians also using the hospital).
As for the source of the shelling, I've provided an AP source, citing a local government worker who believes it was the work of the SLA. Hard to know for sure at this early stage though.
{The top health official in the area says at least two of the barrages appeared to have been mounted by the Sri Lankan army.}
lemme guess. this official must be a coolie? no? YES?
I thought so! ha ha ha!
@echolalia
One such claim was withdrawn by another Dr. few days ago, and AP has to kill the news. See, you guys don't really get it, do you? How nice it is on a headline, when the bugger spokesperson is to be government health official.
Even if a SLDF shell hit the hospital, who is responsible? Cant you get it... the sick LTTE who plant their weaponry among civilians and trap them for their own survival and to attract army shells to civilians. ICRC should announce that LTTE is victimizing civilians instead. Have they expressed any thing against LTTE, or have pledged them to release civilians? i don't think so.
Asanka,
Lankadeepa reports that 59 launched a massive attack, West of Nanthi Kandal.
"the F7's & the KFIR's have a lower growling pitch"
"the mig 27's have a distinctly high pitched scream. WHOOOOOSH!"
absolutely
I enjoyed every second of it
bada pirenawa
don't know whether we could go for the event on 4th
Just imagine what happens if Army keeps the civilians who fled from the LTTE menace zone, at the FDL, together with the brigades?
Can you visualize such a situation, and guess what CNN, BBC and other news agencies vomiting.
hiru,
it is anyway going to happen. but there is no way of verifying those claims!!
also that will do the needful whatever whoever says quickly. the loger this takes (making hospitals inaccessible) the longer tigers will screw the ppl.
like mcnamarra said, sometimes to do a little bit of good, you have to do alot of bad. but in the long term it pays off.
@Moshe Dyan and Hiru
What happened with JVP (eradication), brought lasting piece to the island. in the process, the damages were very high and not-so-humane. As you told, in the long run the payoff is high and beneficial to the whole country.
Poor mahen is still waiting for the approval for publishing his Sunday column. This is how the peelam is run
kavee,
The claim withdrawn earlier was I believe a letter in circulation, that was misattributed to a certain doctor. In contrast, this time it appears AP actually contacted the doctor directly. In any case, it would be pretty darn embarassing if they had to retract such a similar claim again, so I think they've probably vetted their source thoroughly this time.
3 shells hit a hospital in 24 hours. The government is well aware of the location of the hospital; the attacks are totally unjustifiable.
Let me repeat, yet again: the ICRC avoids condemning parties at war. That includes the LTTE and the GOSL. That's what makes them such an effective organisation, in terms of their goal: alleviating human suffering. If the ICRC was seen as a political organisation, they wouldn't be allowed to operate as freely as they do.
Moshe & Kavee
I am with you guys
guys there is a poll on NDTV, asking should INDIA be worried on the SL issue ....
pls be good enough to visit the poll and do the needful
http://www.ndtv.com/convergence/ndtv/story.aspx?id=NEWEN20090082172
@echolalia
okay, lets say ICRC is the ideal organization setting an example on how to operate on foreign countries in a dignified manner. Have you ever seen they condemn LTTE's ruthless killings and barbaric exercises? I yet to see one. However, I have seen many incidences throughout the history that ICRC has put the blame directly to the rightfully elected GoSL. This vouch for their impartiality and credibility.
Thank you very much Ninja.
I was surprised. Thanks, your explanation gives me heart.
If any one makes a (oppositon to war) statement (oppositon to war) like that I would no longer engage myself with that kind of debate.
Who likes wars?
No reasonable person choose war onstead of peace.War should be the last resort.
When the war is taken as the last resort it should be conducted with full might.
If it is conducted half heartedly or quater hearted ly (as it was done it before creating the myth of LTTE invincibility) it only prolongs the pain, for civilians, military and the country.
If the opposition had put his support behind war this war could have fought with even more vigour since the Government could have bought more weapons.
Thank you very much Ninja. Sorry about misunderstanding.
Swarnajith Udana
@frackster
Hey, the pole question is absolutely crazy. It is like asking should XXX be worried over the next door's lady shouting on her delivery... :) unless XXX has screwed her.
Kavee,
"Have you ever seen they condemn LTTE's ruthless killings and barbaric exercises? I yet to see one. However, I have seen many incidences throughout the history that ICRC has put the blame directly to the rightfully elected GoSL. This vouch for their impartiality and credibility.
Can you name one example of the ICRC putting the blame directly on the GOSL? Find me one, and provide a source, please. It should be easy, since you claim to have seen many incidents.
If according to many bloggers in here, BBC, CNN,Al Jazeera, ICRC,Red Cross, AFP - all foreign news agencies are biased and not to be trusted- pray tell me who do you trust to provide the truth? please dont insult ones intelliegence and say Daily News, Defense lk etc
Laksman Kadirgamer must have turned in his grave when Gota shot his mouth off threatening news agencies and foreign diplomats.
Gota did a good job for the tamil diaspora. They will milk that statement to the detriment of Sri Lankans and yet again question the credibility of GOSL.
/echolalia said...
Ninja,
None of us are in the Vanni, so yes, we all go by news reports. However, it seems that when you disagree with a report, or it makes your conscience uneasy, you dismiss it as "biased"./
I said biased not based on uneasy conscience but on my all previous experience.
We say some thing, you ask a proof. Why don't you give proofs for your claims for every ones convenience? I like to see your proof for "it seems that when you disagree with a report, or it makes your conscience uneasy, you dismiss it as "biased" ".
And also please prove;
1. they are civilians
2. Not LTTE fighters
3. They are dead
4. Dead not due to other reasons 5. Dead due to military fire
6. Dead due to military fire from SLA
7. Dead not due to military fire from LTTE
And also;
/..there are the forced 'disappearances' in the East and Jaffna (and soon, in the Vanni). Not to mention the targetting of dissidents in the South, especially journalists./
/ As for the source of the shelling, I've provided an AP source, citing a local government worker who believes it was the work of the SLA./
This local government belief is not a proof for me.
Jay,
Yes, the fallout of that bout of silliness is already being seen: http://www.expatica.com/de/news/local_news/Berlin-unimpressed-by-Sri-Lankan-_threats_-to-ambassador--_49162.html
Kavee,
So you have no hard proof that the ICRC has a pro-LTTE bias. That's what I thought.
Let's be crystal clear: You, nor anyone else here, has provided a single morsel of evidence that the ICRC is biased towards the LTTE.
You stated that you "have seen many incidences throughout the history that ICRC has put the blame directly to the rightfully elected GoSL". Yet now, when pressed, you can't cite a single example of these "many incidences"!
We hope you use reliable news sources such as these:
Lanka Page at http://lankapage.com/index.php SL Ministry of Defence at http://www.defence.lk Lanka Everything at http://www.lankaeverything.com SinhalaNet at http://www.sinhala.net
The above was written by a "John Mackinnon" in a letter to the editor of the NY Times published in Lankaweb.
Brought a smile to my face!
Ofcourse the Editor is going to take it seriously!
kavee.....
hahahah u hit the nail on the head bro !!!
but i urge u guys to tell india to mind their own business, only way to do that in that specific poll is to say 'NO"
/echolalia said...
UN and ICRC health workers in the hospital have confirmed that civilians were killed, in the hospital, including the paediatrics ward./
Your text book definition for UN and ICRC workers is so cool but the reality is different in wanni- they are LTTE. Of course, I know you need a proof which I don't have.
/If a shell hits a paediatrics ward, guess what - children die./
Yep, even a shell from LTTE.
/That includes children who are too young to even know what a Tiger is./
Yes, if they knew what a tiger is they will some how come to GSL areas and avoid a fighting zone rather than staying in a fighting area of course 'by their choice'.
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