A 30-man LTTE team that breached the 59 Division FDL launched a string of attack this morning killing 15 soldiers in the process. The team had landed in Security Forces dominated Mulaitivu from the Nanthikadal lagoon around 6 a.m. undetected by the Army.
The team launched attacks on an Army Bus, Tractor and two Tanks causing damage to the four vehicles. The team then called in artillery at the FDL and coordinated a strike at the 59 FDL breaching it for a period of time until the Special Forces and Commandos were called in to secure the area. 11 Tigers were also killed in the counter attack, which is still ongoing.
Meanwhile an LTTE plane made a landing around 1.5kms ahead of the 58 Division's FDL at Visuamadu North. A heavy barrage of MBRL fire was immediately directed to the area. No movement was observed from the area following the attack. The Plane had landed on a tar road, further confirming the Army's doubts that it was not always using the landing strips discovered in the area.
In another development, a group of Tiger explosives experts on a mission to blow up the Iranamadu Tank Bund were caught following a daring amphibious operation along with a large quantity of explosives. If the bund was blasted, it could have caused irreparable damage to the area and made the progress of the Army extremely difficult.
Sunday, February 1, 2009
SF hunts LTTE team as plane lands in Visuamadu
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I have already cited the sources for the hospital story. These include the ICRC, the UN, and the government's own workers in the hospital. If you think these sources are biased towards the LTTE, then there is little room for further discussion, especially since you cannot provide any evidence for this bias that you claim.
As for disappearances in Jaffna and the East, and attacks on journalists, I suspect you will probably cry "bias" for my sources too, even though criticise the LTTE as well as the GOSL (e.g. Human Rights Watch, Reporters sans Frontiers, the US State Department).
Prabha wears only Marks & Spencer, for those who fight his losing battle sarong and rubber slippers.
Prabhakaran’s Luxurious Flat & Shirt Found it seems to be a two acre land lanscaped and all trimmings.
on army.lk
Another biased report topping yahoo early morning. This will not have legs since people in US still celebrating the Superbowl.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090202/ap_on_re_as/as_sri_lanka_civil_war
/echolalia said...
Ninja,
I have already cited the sources for the hospital story. These include the ICRC, the UN, and the government's own workers in the hospital. If you think these sources are biased towards the LTTE, then there is little room for further discussion, especially since you cannot provide any evidence for this bias that you claim./
So your proof = citing source ? mh
For the things happened in LTTE areas how those sources report or check or verify? They have to deal inside LTTE areas some way and you are saying if one is against LTTE or unbiased then LTTE let them operate there?? mmhh ya, your LTTE is 100% correct.. no proof to say other wise.. ehh?
Guys, I think Genocide ™ is from
www.tamilnet.tv
it's time we completely disregard these fucking organisations who shut their eyes towards the brutal terror attacks on the 100% sinhala land for 30 years sponsored by india, canada, usa, australia, norway & what else.
when london was attacked HR went out thru their assholes.
we have only 4 true friends in the world.
china, pakistan, iran & israel. all others are opportunistic bastards out for sensational news,destabilisation or colonisation.
Pro-LTTE media and their shameless lackey in the western media are on the overdrive using the Puthukudiyiruppu Hospital to manufacture a humanitarian crisis.
Hope our boys manage to liberate the hospital from the filthy maggots quickly....
Its rather puzzling that none of the State media have commented on Gota threatening statement to news agencies and diplomats. Usually, Daily News and other state media catch on to every word he says.
Silence from them is deafening.
I wonder if he talked out of turn, got a ticking off from brother MR or Sathipalan twisted the words whilst reporting it on Sunday Island.
The US ambassador has made some very unsavoury remarks against GOSL- why was he not reprimanded as well. Perhaps, its to do with his citizenship/ Green Card status
/ Jay said...
If according to many bloggers in here, BBC, CNN,Al Jazeera, ICRC,Red Cross, AFP - all foreign news agencies are biased and not to be trusted- pray tell me who do you trust to provide the truth?/
Here is the formula.
1. LTTE keep their human shield in wanni battle field
(nothing to report..)
2. May be some civilians get injured due to fire from either side
(Then report.. yep, that part only.)
Reporting truth, reporting half truth, not reporting truth...
/Laksman Kadirgamer must have turned in his grave when Gota shot his mouth off threatening news agencies and foreign diplomats./
I agree what GR said but yes I don't agree he was saying it. What he said is true but it can be easily used against GSL.
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Sacred City of Anuradhapura
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Ancient City of Polonnaruva
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This sacred Buddhist site, popularly known as the city of Senkadagalapura, was the last capital of the Sinhala kings whose patronage enabled the Dinahala culture to flourish for more than 2,500 years until the occupation of Sri Lanka by the British in 1815. It is also the site of the Temple of the Tooth Relic (the sacred tooth of the Buddha), which is a famous pilgrimage site.
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Karu,
How often do you read the updates? Or is your Ceylon internet only provide the cached news and filltering the latest news which given by our blog?
Mahen
When did Bhanu wake from dead?
All,
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Please bare with all of us until issues get fixed. I'm sure with in next 36 hours you should be able to vote.
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mahen kills people & brings them back to life for a living.
what a way to make a living!
LAME. ha ha ha!
@Ananda-USA
[ Reallycold,
I still believe you are LTTE agent along with Wijayapala. In fact, other LTTE sympathizers have balls but you.]
You just confirmed my opinion about you is correct.
You are a patriotic IDIOT!
Prabha wants to commit all the sins against both Tamils and Sinhalese, still wants to emerge as the hero for Tamils.
You have the same personality. You can be the most effective anti diaspora writer in the world. If however you get a wrong reading on Sinhalese, what it shows is you are driven by ignorance and arrogance.
You can be the king crab in the bucket, however you are still a crab.
coolie carnivals in the west has failed to bring any ceasefire.
good for anti terrorist supporters.
Hi Guys and Gals
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Who will get the biggest mileage out of a shell hitting a crowded pediatric unit?
While it is a possibility of a shell hitting any unit of a hospital, why did that shell hit the unit of the hospital that would generate the most sympathy from International Observers?
To me it looks like another genocide by LTTE to get their PR mileage!
"UN spokesman Gordon Weiss told the BBC the shells had hit a crowded paediatric unit. It is not clear who fired them."
@Mahen
[During the last week alone 380 young boys and girls joined the LTTE to bolster its man power to defeat the invading Singala Army]
I wonder where is the ICRC and HR, having a blind eye on forceful militarization of children. Say no to Child solders, except in Vanni please.
Dear Swarnajith Udana (SU),
"Humanists do try to avoid war, but when pressed hard
and when they see that war is unavoidable then they fight it with all might still holding humanistic value.
Why do many people obey law?
If we take out all forms of violence from the society
it will be anarchy.
Law is maintained by violent means. If police powers and weapons are taken
away Courts cannot function.
Yes It is hard to press humanism because of many years of war. But if we think carefully this suffering should convince us
why humanism is the form of
Nationalism for this dangerously armed world.
IF WE DO NOT TRANSFORM OURSELVES FROM TRIBALISTIC NATIONALISM TO HUMANISTIC NATIONALISM THEN MY GREAT SPECIES, MAN KIND, WILL HAVE ONLY A SHORT TIME OF EXISTENCE.
Being against war sometimes very well be anti-humanism. OPPOSITION to the war against LTTE at this juncture is crime against humanism."
Thanks for your perspectives. Sorry for taking a little bit of time for my feedback on our discussion.
Part of what you say can be explained under the evolutionarily stable strategies (ESS). Briefly ESS is a mathematical expression to figure out, out of several given strategies, which one is more evolutionarily stable. If humanism only strategy (a more dove like strategy) is made to compete with terrorism (a hawkish strategy), humanism will loose. So for humanism to survive as an ESS, it has to be associated with other strategies. One of these associated strategies could be a humanistic war. Unknowingly or knowingly of this Maynard Smith's concept of ESS, MR govt. seems to be doing a humanistic war. It has reduced, so far, civilian death to a minimum, surrendered cadre has been treated humanely (even made into ministers to represent their people). Even the final aim of this war seems to be the liberation of the Tamil people, which however would be beneficial, especially in the long run, to all people of our country.
Sun Tsu, Carl Von Clausewitz and Machiavelli, all believed war to be rational. According to their philosophy, war is always rational, it is done to achieve some objective, and when that objective is achieved war will end, human lives are never sacrificed unnecessarily. Humanism can certainly be a part of this strategy as well. And this war against the LTTE seems to be a rational humanistic war.
Ok, so far I sounded more like a warmonger. However war is only a part of the solution. Once the LTTE is militarily defeated, we need to address and ameliorate the issues that gave rise to this terrorism. Some of these issues may be rational some not; but all will have some sort of a solution. As I have always been telling, a liberal education, appreciation of diversity, economic development, and humanism (and Ahimsa) will go a long way in addressing these.
In summary, we need to address the rights of the minorities and respect the will of the majority. A govt. that balances these two issues will bring prosperity to all Sri Lankans.
@echolalia
Do you think we are idiots like you?
[ I have already cited the sources for the hospital story. These include the ICRC, the UN, and the government's own workers in the hospital.]
What is the interest of ICRS and UN in Sri Lanka?
These agents wants to hype things up to lengthen their careers at UN. The crisis is the gold mine for them.
Who is this Kandasamy Tharmakulasingham guy AP is quoting as a local health official?
This news item rhymes with the war reporting of the movie 'Wag the Dog'.
Reliable sources informs that the Associated Press writer Ravi Nessman is on LTTE payroll and his high life is funded by the LTTE.
You will find many more LTTE biased reports from him in the coming days.
He will make sure that he include the following false statement at the end of each article too..
"The rebels have been fighting since 1983 for a separate homeland for ethnic minority Tamils in the north and east after decades of marginalization by governments controlled by the Sinhalese majority. More than 70,000 people have been killed in the civil war.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090202/ap_on_re_as/as_sri_lanka_civil_war
http://www.absoluteastronomy.com/topics/Coolie
excerpt from article on "coolie".
article is based on proven historical facts.
[[[A massive number of Tamil coolies were shipped to Sri Lanka by the British for the coffee and tea plantations. It was also used to augment the minority populations of Sri Lanka. This was the second wave of settlement after the Tamils settled in Jaffna by the Dutch as laborers for tobacco cultivation. This tactic of demographic alteration was used by the British to suppress the native Sinhalese of Sri Lanka who had revolted numerous times against the British. A similar settlement also took place in Malaysia.]]]
now how does british imported coolies claim a historical homeland?
recently the right wing french politician jean marie le penn spoke about the long term problem of immigrants on french society on a TV show.
his example was SRI LANKA. he said soon the economic immigrants of france might start claiming parts of france LIKE THE TAMILS CLAIM SRI LANKA.
the sinhala living in france were SO HAPPY while the tyamils were FUCKING WILD!
NO WONDER...PEELAMISTS THINK THE WEST DON KNOW. BUT THEY KNOW EVERYTHING! LTTE SUPPORTERS STAND EXPOSED & NUDE.
the whole world knows everything about vesapillai, his coolie history, fake freedom struggle & the size of his right testacle!
ha ha ha!
Rover said-
"In summary, we need to address the rights of the minorities and respect the will of the majority. A govt. that balances these two issues will bring prosperity to all Sri Lankans."
Bravo!
Ninja,
"So your proof = citing source ? mh
Citing sources does not constitute 100% proof, but it's better than providing no proof at all, which is what you have done. Not just that, but you haven't even shown that the sources I've used are biased - you've only provided your opinion.
Let me remind you that at the start of this debate, you weren't only denying that the GOSL was responsible for the hospital attack. You denied the hospital was shelled at all! Have you retreated from that position? Or do you still think that the hospital was never even hit by shells?
"For the things happened in LTTE areas how those sources report or check or verify? They have to deal inside LTTE areas some way and you are saying if one is against LTTE or unbiased then LTTE let them operate there?? mmhh ya, your LTTE is 100% correct.. no proof to say other wise.. ehh?"
It's easy. Hospitals are full of doctors and other healthcare workers. When a hospital gets shelled, workers at that hospital can communicate that information to the outside world. When the people conveying the information are senior government health officials, or Red Cross workers, or UN workers, I have no reason to doubt their assessment. They all have a reputation to uphold (especially the ICRC), which would be seriously tarnished if any evidence of fabrication were to later be shown. The same goes for the international media.
From the Canadian Press
“Dr. Thurairajah Varatharajah, the top government health official in the area, said the shells in at least two of the attacks Sunday appeared to have been fired by the Sri Lankan army
They caused extensive damage to the overcrowded Puthukkudiyiruppu hospital, one of the last functioning health institutions inside rebel-held territory, he said”
Dr Varatharajah works inside the Tiger territory. The Tigers have a history of eliminating those Tamils who do not obey them. It is very easy for the Tigers to order this “government” health official to issue any statement they want.
The army knows very well that it is counter productive to shell the hospital and would gain very little or nothing.
NOLTTE=PEACE,
In your haste, you must have forgotten to read the article you cited. It wasn't written by Ravi Nessman at all, but one Vijay Joshi. Is he also on the LTTE payroll?
Conspiracy theories are stupid.
velupilai prabhakarn
you are correct..u can see in the colbroke report that most of the names that are in tamil today had sinhala name
kokavi-kokavila
kilinochi-girikanda
poneryn-punara
mulaithivu-mooladoova
nt only these but all the nmaes were in sinhala ..
Hey All,
Watch this,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBzA0JEcL9I
Does any one know how many made all the way to Anuradapuram hospital?
Can you add 147, so you could get the full number.
Does any one want to know where those 147 end up? Yet again wait for the upcoming pictures.
Throw the crumbs at the Tamils – give ‘em the Rights to use their language and practice their religion and let them be happy. If they are not, send them back to their roots in Tamil Nadu – as this blessed island of ours is the exclusive homeland of the Sinhelas.”
Ironically, it is these same modern Dutugemunus who continue to send their Hela queens by the droves as maids to serve the once camel drivers of the Middle-East – a direct consequence of their redundant Mahavamsa mindsets that runs counter to the challenges of today’s globalized village.
Attitudes expressed on this blog, presumably by some Sinhalese-Buddhists commentators, are precisely what US President Barack Obama must have had in his mind when he said “… we talk about economic deficit … but there is also another deficit ... we have an empathy deficit ... we aren't able to see the world through other peoples eyes ...".
It is high time the Sinhalese woke-up from their deep slumber, give-up on their harmful attachments to the past, became more collectively secure and live up to the realities of the present. It would serve them well to take inventory on how the Mahavamsa mentality has truly helped them achieve their national goals since independence; it would serve them well to open their eyes wide, take a good look in the mirror and ask, “Where are we today, in the world? How do we measure against our neighbors? How much respect do we command? Is our society content? And where are we heading?”
The undeniable simple fact is there are over 3.5 million minorities in Sri Lanka – who are simply not going to vanish off the face of Sri Lanka’s earth just because that is what some Sinhalese bigots may desire. It is unlikely that they would go to Tamil Nadu irrespective how politely you ask – a comment by one with clear contempt for fellow citizens. The Tamils are here to stay and the Sinhalese have little choice but to devise a political formula that gives minorities security, dignity and equal opportunity for individual expression – way beyond mere facilitation of language and religious freedoms. The formula must be one that is “likable” to the minorities as defined exclusively by them yet not “dis-likable” to the majority as defined by the latter. The challenge indeed is to discover the magic formula – which can only be achieved through intellectual reasoning, education, dialogue, implementation and through mutual understanding. And of course, the other choice for the Sinhalese is to continue with their hegemony, throwing mere crumbs at the minorities – an exhausted strategy that is guaranteed to end-up in the eventual bifurcation of the Sri Lankan nation
ReallyCold,
I'm still waiting for any one to provide a single shred of evidence that the ICRC has a pro-LTTE bias. So far you're just full of hot air.
Far from the current crisis being a "gold mine" for ICRC and UN workers, it is actually a physical threat to their lives. And not only those working in the North, even Red Cross workers in the South have been abducted and murdered. Not that you would care.
LionHeart,
Did you know Ceylon Gov has paid millions of $ to Mr. Ramaswamy to do that interview?
hahahah... Nice set-up... Do n't worry some of that money will be claimed by us.
@echolalia
Don't you get it, when the bastards are within the safe zone, and inside hospitals firing at the army cowardly, is the Army suppose to wait and see solders fall one by one?
You and your ICRC, please get the bastard LTTE to understand this and get them to release the civilians. GoSL has all the facilities waiting for them. if I am afraid, if you or ICRC wants to limit civilian casualties, this is the only way remaining.
If i can do that i will talk to the LTTE, but unfortunately bastards wont hear my voice.
LTTE must have very deep pockets to have an endless list of reputable journalists, media agencies, US/UK politicians, UN officials to list a few.
help me god,why is the 55th division not able to capture Challai??? We are cornered south of Chundikullam for three weeks now,not able to advance. Don´t understand it
Jay:
If according to many bloggers in here, BBC, CNN,Al Jazeera, ICRC,Red Cross, AFP - all foreign news agencies are biased and not to be trusted- pray tell me who do you trust to provide the truth? please dont insult ones intelliegence and say Daily News, Defense lk etc
Laksman Kadirgamer must have turned in his grave when Gota shot his mouth off threatening news agencies and foreign diplomats.
Gota did a good job for the tamil diaspora. They will milk that statement to the detriment of Sri Lankans and yet again question the credibility of GOSL.
Agree. Many cannot see beyond the FDL. Incredibly stupid. "Diplomacy" and "Statesmanship" do not mean anything in SL, sadly.
LTTE bastards don't have a chance come open out of the sarees, skirts and janjees of civilians. The challenge for them is to stand for another 24 hours, after releasing civilians....
No weapon can stand against SLDF brave heros now, only the civilians trapped delaying things.
Jay
why is it only the tamils compalin of receiving crumps?
why not the other minority communities like Muslims,Burghers and up country tamils seems to not have a problem of receiving crumps
any Challai-updates? please only serious news,no propaganda or rumours.Defencewire is not a lankan patriot,but a fake,who fools us. He told us one week ago,that Challai has fallen,but the LTTE still controls the village and even the region north of it.
Indika,
there's a serious problem in our country. present generation thinks that sinhala just fell on this island from somewhere & are not the least bit concerned either. they were taught to think like outsiders.
that's exactly what the peelamists wanted so that they can step in with their BS claims.
most sri lankans today are not aware that we're one of the handful of countries with a recorded history of over 2,500 years BACKED BY ARCHAELOGICAL EVIDENCE. tamils don even have shit in SL. even their chola kingdoms in india is not as old as ours.
unlike all other countries i know of teaching history was banned by ranil when he was education minister under jr. ranil was always against sinhala.
it's time we learnt our history. we must BE AWARE of the basics AT LEAST. that's more than enough for the layman cos there's plenty of archaelogical evidence to back it up unlike for the tamils who have to go to great extents to cook evidence up.
kumari kandam, shit buried in erns etc, etc. PRIME BS!
ha ha ha!
@DrJones
"Diplomacy" and "Statesmanship" can be exercised in a post LTTE sri lanka. Many governments tried that, and was failing for 30 years, don't you remember?
indika,
THE ENTIRE ISLAND OF SL HAD SINHALA NAMES.
all were distorted by blood thirsty tamil invaders.
time for a renaming of the entire name system.
HISTORY KEEPS REPEATING ITSELF.
HA HA HA!
LionHeart,
Macho thanks for posting that video, great stuff. These videos should get more publicity then people around the world will realize the true picture of LTTP and their fake Genocide.
Must see video guys http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBzA0JEcL9I
Throw the crumbs at the Tamils – give ‘em the Rights to use their language and practice their religion and let them be happy. If they are not, send them back to their roots in Tamil Nadu – as this blessed island of ours is the exclusive homeland of the Sinhelas.
Jay,
I agree with you that at times some sinhala people make inappropriate comments. But let me assure you that most do not see SL has "exclusive homeland of sinhalas." Most are quite happy to live on this land on equal footing.
I'm telling you this because I know you are not an extremist tamil
like the rest of tamils who come here with a deep rooted hatred towards sinhala people. Towards these terrorists I have no sympathy. Dont get me wrong, Sinhala people have made many mistakes in the past, so have tamils and will continue to do so by both sides, its human nature. But its how you go about taking action against these disagreements that has gotten Tamils the terrorist name. So before you criticize mahawamsa I'd ask you to take an objective look at your own kind and tell me honestly if you do not think there are more radical and extremist groups than those making silly comments about mahawamsa. To be honest most school kids these days wouldn't have a clue what was written in mahawansa nor do they care.
Leave the mahawamsa in the past, leave 1956 in the past, leave 1983 in the past and leave LTTE in the past.
That's the only way we're going to move forward.
Shall we all call for a tribute songs towards our brave forces.
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=V65bB7SRAtU&feature=related
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=begjY9tmHTg
Kavee - mostly true. That's one side of the coin.
But do you think the current bunch knows the meaning of diplomacy, statesmanship or tactfulness?
Gota may not have minced his words towards foreign envoys, but in the process he irreparably damaged SL reputation, or what's now left of it.
When high-flying officials like GR & MR behave like thugs from villages (Gamey chandi) they are playing to the gallery. Ninety-percent of the population will be over the moon, but they will not/cannot/don't want to see the damage done in the long-run.
You could possibly get away with threatening NGOs, but foreign diplomats? Gota is a idiot, although a patriot. Patriotism has made him short-sighted. he might think "I gave them a piece of my mind" or "Mama dunna unta...." but in the eyes of the world, he is behaving no different to a tyrant like Mugabe. That's the truth.
No one cares about the repercussions in the long-run. That is the problem. When people talk these things they are branded puppets of the LTTE.
One of the biggest reasons for the lppe to loose this war is that the population in Vanni is so low, probably 120k-130k or might be even less. Its good to see how the total population in 2 districts can fit into a such a small area of land comfortably....hic hic..
We only need to populate Vanni with another 100k people to settle the ethnic problem for good.
We can easily create military settlements with large scale farming projects like what Israel did in Golan. In another 5-10 years we need to make sure Vanni is not a Tamil major area, and this seems to easy then earlier thought.
Govt plan to increase the army up to 300k seems to be in order facilitate such a project.
I love this regime!!! they can do wonders, others cannot even dream about.
dark night
origianaly there was almost 40% muslim and sinhala combined population in north before LTTE activity
/But do you think the current bunch knows the meaning of diplomacy, statesmanship or tactfulness?/
Current bunch has no idea about diplomacy, statesmanship or tactfulness and they didn't need it. These "gode baiyas" "medamulana" method worked.
Previous bunch knew very well diplomacy, statesmanship or tactfulness and peelaam was so close. Only by luck it didn't happen.
/GR & MR behave like thugs from villages (Gamey chandi) they are playing to the gallery./
And we are in the gallery and we like these villege poras.
[origianaly there was almost 40% muslim and sinhala combined population in north before LTTE activity]
I believe there was 85% Muslim and Sinhalese combined in North before LTTE forced them to leave.
/echolalia said...
Citing sources does not constitute 100% proof, but it's better than providing no proof at all, which is what you have done. Not just that, but you haven't even shown that the sources I've used are biased - you've only provided your opinion./
It seems you have just born and blogging but for me I was reading all these news sources (tamilnet.com, BBC, AP etc) for quite a time and my opinion is based on their previous reporting in such situations. I am sorry - no time to give you links but you can find it yourself if you search. If you are looking for media citations for biasedness check sinhala media as well.
/ Let me remind you that at the start of this debate, you weren't only denying that the GOSL was responsible for the hospital attack. You denied the hospital was shelled at all! Have you retreated from that position? Or do you still think that the hospital was never even hit by shells?/
I didn't deny or accept. I don't know hospital attacked or not or any one dead or not or if any one dead its civilian or not. I was questioning your claim. And also saying all such previous claims were just LTTE +int. media propaganda.
/It's easy..../
This is a story.. not a proof (for me).
/Its good to see how the total population in 2 districts can fit into a such a small area of land comfortably....hic hic../
Actually it seems whatever the population living in wanni now live in tiny pink peelaam without any problem. May be we can let them settle down there (after war) and develop reast of the wanni according to a national plan so that every one can live there.
anada usa
i was talking the northern province only
not north and east combined
[i was talking the northern province only
not north and east combined]
If North and East combined, then it would be 95% of population who are Muslim and Sinhalese. In other words, only 5% Tamils are in NE.
anada whn was this was it in the 70s 80s time or are you talking abt 200-300 years ago..
Indika,
Gota’s short-sightedness has nothing to do with the current successes of our forces. He may be giving them proper leadership, the results are there for us to see - but I was specifically referring to the incident where he threatened the foreign ambassadors and the media. That was stupid with a capital “S”.
You could probably get away with insulting the NGOs. But only a super idiot could think they could insult foreign governments and foreign media and still could get away with it. You cannot win by threatening foreign media. Government's threats will only work for Sri Lankan media, because they will quickly toe the line as they are afraid of the government. You cannot honestly say you will have achieved a lot if a major news agency is shown the door by a stupid politician. Sri Lanka will, then as a result get even more negative coverage. It works fine as long as you only think about what is going to happen in the next 4 weeks and you think inside the SL bubble, which is the way majority are thinking these days – if these blogs are anything to go by. For instance, the government makes the Rupavahini, ITN & Lakehouse to work overtime to insult the hell out of the opposition and that’s fine. It is actually not fine, but no one cares, yawn. So nothing happens. In SL you could publicly threaten the media and then all the media will toe the line. Those who do not, well we all know what happens to them. We accept the current trashy system for what it is. Status quo is never challenged. That is how the Sri Lankan system works. That is how we have all been sub-consciously brought up; never mind what is in the books. Since it is what we have seen for many decades, we conveniently overlook the fact that that is unacceptable behaviour. If a politician of a high-flying government office in a developed country made even a vaguely-threatening statement with one-telnth the weight of what Gota said a few days ago, all media – irrespective of whether they are pro or anti-government, and irrespective of the perpetrator's importance - will skin him alive. Well, not literally. He will have committed political suicide and will have to hang his head in shame, hang up the coat, make a public statement and go home – never to return to office. If he is lucky he will get reimbursed for the taxi journey home.
What we have seen in SL for decades is the exact opposite. There is no right or wrong in the case of SL politicians; they are so blind with power they are always right. Because we have seen the wrong things happening right in front of our eyes for so bloody long, we sub-consciously think it is acceptable and the right way to go. As a result we do not, we cannot, - and worst of all – we do not want to – see the truth.
That is why I say again that Gota no doubt is a patriot, but he is also no doubt a super idiot who could not think beyond the confines of the SL when he made the threats against the foreign ambassadors.
Cheers.
Troops capture Prabakaran's main hideout:
Sri Lankan Army troops of the 11th Light Infantry (SLLI) under the 58 Division led by Brigadier Shavendra Silva have captured a main LTTE hideout, what is believed to be a major residential site of the terror leader Prabakaran.
The two storied underground built residential complex was located in a two acre coconut cultivated land which was well fortified, provided with all-round protection from adjacent gun positions and bunker locations. The entire area was brought under security forces control following heavy fighting that ensued between troops and LTTE since early this morning (Feb 2). At least 20 LTTE terrorists were killed during the confrontation that lasted for hours the sources further said.
According to ground sources, the underground bunker runs 50ft deep, protected with a 3ft thick layer of concrete. The air force had bombed this location previously, which is in the center of cadjan houses 500m west of the Paranthan - Mullaititvu main road in general area Piramanthalkulama. The underground bunker was fully air conditioned which consisted of four furnished compartments and tiled floors, the sources said adding that surveillance cameras were also fitted at the entrance of the bunker complex.
During further search operations conducted, troops have also found an oxygen plant inside a luxury compartment believed to be Prabakanran's room along with a M-16(new version) machine gun and an insulin container. Troops had also located a deep-freezer inside the compartment. "Four guard points were found located adjacent to the compartment which were manned by Prabakaran's personal bodyguards", a military official said. Three sound proof power generators were used to supply electricity to the residential site and the adjacent bunkers, the sources further said.
Search operations are continuing .....
Indika
Fake Ananda-USA is talking about pre-british era and coming century.
Tamil national leader certainly loved to look at himself very much. There are 6 photos just of him hung around his room. All signs pointing to a megalomaniac.
Dr Jones .
The media in the us is only held just below lawyers in the US and only the media cares if they are insulted . They with their pompous crap will make sure we hear about the indignity they suffered . Most network providers in the US dont even provide al jazeera cus the info they consider is supportive to terrorists . As for the foreign ambassadors if the buggers are worth a penny and are helping the GOSL in any way I am sure Gota would not have said what he said . countries like Norway and Swiss have been vultures in SL helping the terras at every step . so if they are peeved who cares .
Clearly Gota and SF can use a little bit of diplomacy . and clearly they are still soldiers and beucrats at heart rather than diplomats . They are not fools in my mind and it is time some of these lame bastards got what was coming to them .
Ninja brother,
"Current bunch has no idea about diplomacy, statesmanship or tactfulness - and they didn't need it. These "gode baiyas" "medamulana" method worked"
Well, it seems to be working for now. But that “NOW” is not the end. End is not achieved when the remaining 283 km² is taken, nor it is achieved when the fat pig is caught and roasted alive. It is just one chapter - quite a big one at that – but Sri Lanka needs to move on.
"Previous bunch knew very well diplomacy, statesmanship or tactfulness and peelaam was so close. Only by luck it didn't happen."
Yes. But that was bending-over-backwards diplomacy, or “Menna mama nevuna, den mata erapan” diplomacy, which is the other end of the spectrum, which is equally bad, if not worse.
"GR & MR behave like thugs from villages (Gamey chandi) they are playing to the gallery./
And we are in the gallery and we like these villege poras."
With much respect to you, that response of yours pretty much proves the essence of my earlier post, don’t you think?
Jay
Time not permitting to respond in detail to your comment or to elaborate on my previous comment.
In essense, i agree with you forget the past and lets move forwards.
Forget 1956, 1983 LTTE etc.
However, we missed a golden opportunity soon after the Tsunami to bury the hatchet and work together towards a peaceful and prosperous nation.
As i have commented in the past the war/conflict has gone on for far too long, where extremism on both sides have developed to such deplorable levels that there is no mutual trust to find a workable solution.
Poor tamils in the North and East have no future under LTTE nor under GOSL.
The Tamils and the Sinhalese in the South will be working together with some misaprehension.
I honestly cannot see a light at the end of the tunnel. I hope i'm wrong.
My apologies if my comment on the Mahawamsa seemed silly or inappropriate.
Panhinda:
"Tamil national leader certainly loved to look at himself very much. There are 6 photos just of him hung around his room. All signs pointing to a megalomaniac."
Bloody narcissist! I am reasonably certain the bugger also posted his mugshots to yahoo answers asking strangers "Am I pretty?" :)
DrJones
I understand. I think we should help GR to finish this 'chapter' rather than criticizing him for one newspaper headline. And yes, we need to think about after war SL politics and if you propose other individuals we can see who would be the best.
yes dr.jones, man loves himself too much it seems. too bad we dont have many jokes for him. he deserves a lot more ridicule.
[[[Poor tamils in the North and East have no future under LTTE nor under GOSL.]]]
thanks to LTTE they have nothing & nobody.
[[[The Tamils and the Sinhalese in the South will be working together with some misaprehension.
I honestly cannot see a light at the end of the tunnel. I hope i'm wrong.]]]
i see an end of terrorists & a new beginning for the country. with a 500,000 army. but no hope for seperatists. that's final.
WHO HAS NEWS REGARDING CHALLAI??????
"...Mahen said ..Does any one want to know where those 147 end up.."
[Single] :Lets assume the worst case that all 147 or 300 brave soldiers let their life for the country. So what...?will you get the Eeelam or will any improvemtn of the 150000 tamil peoples in LTTE hostage?
Still 49,700+ soliders are surrounded Pu'ppu and 53 is on reserve.
"...Did you know Ceylon Gov has paid millions of $ to Mr. Ramaswamy to do that interview?.."
[Single] :Now you are in politics! we dont mind paying any such good intervew for any money. Can you send us few such good names tha we can approach.
And newest rumour in Dispora specially in Toronto is "Karunanishi" has taken two breifcase of Indian Money given by Cnetral government and that is why he madea 360degeee turn.
So any Tamil aganisnt LTTE is paid by either Indian or SL government.
Even though you are MI or "one of anti LTTE" I really like your talks Mahen
"cj said...WHO HAS NEWS REGARDING CHALLAI????..."
CJ, උඹ මේ බ්ලොග් එකට ආව දවසේ ඉඳලා ඔය චලෙයි අල්ලගෙන බොරුවට කෑගහනවා. මොකද උඹේ ඇටදෙකවත් චලෙයි වලදි නැතිවුනාද?
බයවෙන්න එපා ඔය ඩිෆෙන්ස් වයර්ට කියපන් මිනිහා දන්නවලු 55 කට්ටියව. මමත් දන්න අයට කියන්නම් ඇටදෙකක් හම්බුවුනොත් ඒක අරන් තියන්නම කියලා..
එතකම් කටයි පුකයි වහගෙන හිටපන්. යුද්දෙ කියන්නේ ඕවරෙන් ඕවරේ අප්ඩේට් කරන මැච් එකක් නෙමේ.
sorry single,but i cannot read your statement,something went wrong with your signs
Vellupra..said
[i see an end of terrorists & a new beginning for the country. with a 500,000 army. but no hope for seperatists. that's final.]
I wonder if SL can afford this with an already stretch defense budget of 5% of GDP.
Perhaps you can take up Ajith Cabraal offer of-
"S.Lanka targets $500 mln from diaspora for development"
guys its time for out-of-the-box thinking now,........
why not sleeping gas/and or smoke screen the entire area? or at least one front?......this should be feasible, based on wind direction and then hand over to the SF brigades to make a lightning incursion.
my 2C,............
WHO HAS NEWS REGARDING CHALLAI??????
"poor are the nations whom do not have heroes, but begged are the nations who have forgoten them..."
Enjoy your freedom...it was paid for with blood, and life.
Vellupra..
With regard to your comment on ambassadors- why did'nt Gota include Blake who is the worst culprit in making unsavoury remarks against GOSL.
Perhaps citizenship/Green card blinkered his vision?
@echolalia
[ I'm still waiting for any one to provide a single shred of evidence that the ICRC has a pro-LTTE bias. So far you're just full of hot air.]
We don't really work with evidence, don't we?
According to LTTE, there is no evidence that they murdered Rajiv Gandhi.
After the murder of aid workers, It seems ICRC has a vendetta against the government.
Number of years ago, I was told they got a new director to ICRC and he replaced all the Sinhalese workers by Tamils. Who can provide a list of people under ICRC in Sri Lanka today?
A while back we wanted to talk to Habitat for Humanity in Sri Lanka to build some houses in the South. At that time we felt that it too had been hijacked by Terror Friendly Tamils and Christian fundamentalists.
It is a reality since Buddhist boys are only good at verbal assaults as often seen here.
Who is this Kandasamy Tharmakulasingham ?
[Far from the current crisis being a "gold mine" for ICRC and UN workers, it is actually a physical threat to their lives. ]
Bad karma for being biased. Unless they come clean and show the world that there is no Terror-Friendly Tamil infiltration, people will not really care about their safety.
[And not only those working in the North, even Red Cross workers in the South have been abducted and murdered. Not that you would care.]
Who has done them?
When the both sides are so ruthless and murderous towards each other, how can you pin point who is doing what?
[[[I wonder if SL can afford this with an already stretch defense budget of 5% of GDP.
Perhaps you can take up Ajith Cabraal offer of-
"S.Lanka targets $500 mln from diaspora for development"]]]
we could afford a 30 year war while feedong & medicating the terra MF's who only had to extort money & bomb us. we managed to fuck the MF's while feeding & medicating them. a responsible fuck! ha ha ha!
very worried about us. specially the big army. but we'll manage. from this year the money we spend for big weapons will be almost zero. so plenty to go around.
the way SL kept afloat still boggles the terrorist mindset doesn't it? vesapillai was extorting u while promising to sink SL in debt & bombs.
well it happened alright TO HIM & LTTE !!!
ha ha ha!
in the meanwhile wory about tamil seperatism. it's finished whether u like it or not.
u'll have to forget the tiger flag & find a different fetish for wanking.
ha ha ha!
[[cj said...
WHO HAS NEWS REGARDING CHALLAI??????]]
meka dakkama mata "1 km to kilinochchi" mathak wenawa :-))
[When the both sides are so ruthless and murderous towards each other, how can you pin point who is doing what?]
Thats exactly the reason why we require independent reports and journalist allowed to conflict areas to report on first hand information instead on LTTE propaganda videos or GOSL fed information.
With regards to evidence, the Police and CP have yet to charge the assasin caught with the smoking gun killing Maheswaran (i think) a few years ago.
I believe a suspect has been taken to custody on the Lasantha killing on the evidence that this guy had his cell phone. Now- i'm asking myself what kind of idiot would be making calls on Lasantha phone?
WHO HAS NEWS REGARDING CHALLAI?????? WHEN WILL THE SEA TIGER BASTION FALL?
[[[With regard to your comment on ambassadors- why did'nt Gota include Blake who is the worst culprit in making unsavoury remarks against GOSL.
Perhaps citizenship/Green card blinkered his vision?]]]
blake never harmed SL like the europeans blatantly did. USA was the first country to ban LTTE more than ten years sgo.
but USA has a big tamil population. so blake has to obviously make a little noise.
last but not the least u gotta respect the country that fed & gave u opprtunity as immigrants. something tamils are clueless about obviously.
whine, whine, kill, kill, complain, complain... on & on & on...like a repeating groove.
ha ha ha!
lol@vellupra..
well done!
[[cj said...
WHO HAS NEWS REGARDING CHALLAI??????]]
According to "Single", one of your lost balls was discovered by 55 men at challai. Don't worry, you will get the ball after a forensic examination.
Similarly, SLA guys found one of Peter's ball (stolen by VP) at 1 mile to kilinochchi.
Long time no see
How is moda Lanka?
Ready for Feb 4th fireworks?
[[[[When the both sides are so ruthless and murderous towards each other, how can you pin point who is doing what?]]]
nobody has to pinpoint anything. if u think pin pointing's important sit on a pin cushion & press! u'll get to know about it.
ha ha ha!
jokes apart, it's a fight to the finish. soon one side will end up like pins without points while the other will rule unchallenged like a sharp needle pricking the opponents ass.
everybody knows which side that is.
ha ha ha!
After this, he'll even get sacked from his 7eleven doughnut serving job.
Guys,
Don't forget to submit your vote here.
http://www.ndtv.com/convergence/ndtv/story.aspx?id=NEWEN20090082172
Information regarding a possible scenario involving plastic surgery has reached the Intelligence circle in Colombo.
Equipment used in plastic surgeries have been uncovered in V.P's residence.
Most are predicting it to be used by the decoy as revealed by V. Muralidaran a few years back. But we cannot rule out a possibility about the real "Mccoy" using them as well, can we ???
Peter,
Snowy in New Malden heh?
Koba
Article was written at 10.50 PM Sl time.. Does it mean 30 man LTTE team was fighting from 6am till 11pm? or as usual difencewire punnaku..
Punakku... dont mind them machang...Did you find something big enough to destroy Lanka with yet?
Heard so; luckily I am not there this week.
[[[Information regarding a possible scenario involving plastic surgery has reached the Intelligence circle in Colombo.
Equipment used in plastic surgeries have been uncovered in V.P's residence.]]]
it's easy for him to hide as a pig.
he can eat sarath's shit!
ha ha ha!
K,
Good night!
WHO HAS NEWS REGARDING CHALLAI`?
Good night Peter.
I think the best job going right now is that of the 'chief of defense staff', the former air force cheif, donald perera i think. With very good commanders in the forces, and powerful ones, I doubt he has anything to do. Probably comes in and surfs the web all day. Then dress up and attend functions, like stand behind MR.
Let me know if I am wrong. Nothing against him, but just came to my head. He has to be a person who will not mind being upstaged by the people he is supposed to command.
DW, no one is confirming your stories about a small plane landing in Vishwamadu or the daring attack on the 59th in Mullaitivu. Where do you get these stories? Any these Ukrainian pilots with RAW and Eelamists trying to extract Velu? Come on!
We cannibalistic sinhalese bombed PTK hospital and IDP's camps inside out, yes, so far 40 kids and women killed today. Buddha will proud of us.
defence wire wants to make himself important,therefore he is telling shit.Last week he told us,that Challai was taken.My friend´s cousin told the same shit.In reality our 55th division is still several miles north of Challai,not able to advance because of the unfavourable narrow strip of coast and the heavy LTTE-terrorist-resistance
child soldiers & malathi brigade will have certain death. tough luck.
blame fat pig.
ha ha ha!
We will take Chalai within next 24hours
My source in Wanni SF HQ says first and second earthbund have been taken.
Only one more remaining.
Special Forces and amphibious teams are working day and night to secure coast before independence day.
Even if the Gota related story was true The Sunday Island should not have published it. The daily Island always act more responsibly than that of the Sunday Island. I think the daily Island editor Prabath Sahabandu is the difference.
Anyway Gota says that he was misquoted.
"Defence Secretary Gotabhaya Rajapaksa has flayed some foreign ambassadors and international media organisations for not taking up the atrocities the LTTE is committing against civilians. However, he told this newspaper yesterday that he had not threatened to throw any foreign ambassadors or foreign journalists out of the country contrary to yesterday's report to that effect. He said he had only been critical of the bias of some foreign envoys and media organisations against the Sri Lankan military."
--Editorial (The Island, Monday)
http://www.island.lk/2009/02/02/editorial.html
And following is the original article written by a journo named Sathyapalan.
http://www.island.lk/2009/02/01/news1.html
We will take Chalai within next 24hours
Lokubanda,who told you such things?
Look at the actual battlefield-maps and read the stories of the last 48 hours,where our air force punded LTTe-targets just south of Chundikkulam,several miles away from Challai. For three weeks now the 55th division is bogged down just south of Chundikkulam,and now you want to tell us,that Challai will fall within 24 hours?? please do not tell propaganda,there is enough LTTE-propaganda shit,we singhalese supporters of our army should not tell the same shit.Challai will surely not fall before next weekend or more probably not before mid-february
cj
even 58 is on its way to chalai so there is a chance
VP (Vesha Pakaya)'s Day Dream
CJ is another LTTE monkey who comes with a different circus!
He woke up in the morning and found that all the Men got Challai and he has not got one!
Ananda;
Sent a mail many hours ago.
the 58th cannot move to Challai,this coastal strip is too narrow to move two divisions side on side.The main problem of the 55 is,that they cannot use all their firepower on this small coastline.This is the problem,that we are logged down north of Challai for already three weeks now. The terrain is the biggest enemy in this region.The LTTE can easily defend this small strip of coast,because they heavily fortified Challai and environments.Furthermore our artillery and air attacks are not so useful there,because the LTTE has large underground-bunkers in the Challai-region.When we bomb,they hide,and when our ground troops attack,the bandits come out from the bunkers and defend their lines.I think,that we will see heavy battles for Challai in the next days, i hope,that we will take it until February 15. I think,this date is more realistic than February 4.
Hi hi
Click this ho ho
CJ and others,
Challai from North is increasingly difficult. And enemy knows that we're one directional. I am unaware what blocks us moving to shoreline between Nanthikadal and Chundikulam lagoons. There should be some major concern, as 593 reached the region almost a month ago. Ravana Once spoke of a similar location, but I wonder whether it was this point.
Only hurdle which I can imagine is the fact that 593 is not big enough. Maybe they were waiting for TF4 to reach puthu and move eastwards. But yet again, where are those TF5 and TF6 which were to be deployed?
Challai is more important than Puthu and Vishvamadu, which is bogged down by civilian issue. Boxing some pussycats in Challai may give the movement a death blow.
Recent videos by Rama showed thrown away outfits and boots, and I suspect that some pussycats have already left using civilian rescue processes. Everyone that gets away, will increase the need for more white vans. But at the end of the day, a huge amount of them will certainly survive hidden in the huge influx of civilians. We will end up finding some bewildered children with AK47 in hand.
isnt the navy carrying out any sea to land attacks ?
Your support and comments here please?
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=94749142
Why is 53 sitting around?
We should move it to be in support of 55. Then we can take Challai easily.
One more problem for us is the fact,that the 59th on the coast north of Mullaittivu is also bogged down for one week now,at least it seems so according to the battlefield-maps. The LTTE still controls up to 30 kilometer coastline,and this is very frustrating for me. The Navy should shoot the LTTE-defences on the coast into ashes
San,
Any idea who the other person in photo 18 (6th row 3rd column)? What is that centrifuge and oxygen cylinder doing there? I am not fully convinced that this is Praba's hideout. His photos are everywhere and there is none for his wife and children. May be Pottu took them when he ranaway with Mathivathini. Anyway, this looks like somebody elses bunker, perhaps Balaraj's during his last days. If we know who the other man in that pohoto to get a photo op from Velu, we should be able make some brake through. Are there any DNA samples we can collect to trace Velu? Lots of question.
loku banda,who told you,that Challai will fall tomorrow? i still do not believe it
Look at ORBAT. We have almost taken A35. It looks like a lot of close-quarter fighting is ahead of us.
We should let the troops take a day of rest on independence day. It will be a shame for someone to lose their loved one, especially a lion heart, on Feb 4th.
orbat? what´s that?
ok,you mean the battle-map? But what has the A-35 to do with Challai? who told you,that Challai will fall tomorrow? or was it just your own opinion?
http://www.defence.lk/orbat/Default.asp
I have a friend, a communication engineer, at Wanni SF HQ
He even staid with me while doing his MSc here.
Anyway, he said troops have breached two earth bunds but LTTE is building new ones all the time. They really want to take it before 4th.
from the pictures of VP room looks like he has left in a hurry...leaving the gun and personal stuff. If this is the case he still might be in SL..
"loku banda,who told you,that Challai will fall tomorrow? i still do not believe it"
cj,
Weren't you the one who said so around few days back? Actually, you said thad it had already fallen.
ok,lokubanda i trust you. what do you think,when will the conventional war be over? i personally think,in circa four weeks.what do you others think?
ReallyCold,
"Your support and comments here please?"
Your active role is highly appreciated.
Yeah, probably in about four weeks.
First we need to secure the coast and then some hard face to face combat.
Already, TF2 and TF3 using less have weapons.
i never told,that Challai has fallen. A friend of me told it,but these rumours were wrong. From now on i only trust the official army sources,this is better than believeing rumours,*g*
We also need to be prepared to take some hits in south. You never know what desperate terra will do. I think it is worth it for the big prize.
Should Challai not fall tomorrow,your friend in the Wanni headquarter should be dismissed,LOL
There is news on Rupavahini about VP house and photo showing real VP & fake Vp too. I just have an idea why don’t we take any finger prints of these places…then we can prove whether VP is alive or dead or otherwise.
All these places must be sealed off and investigated to understand the terrorist tactics also we can acknowledged the foreign countries if they need…
What you think guys?
cj
They are only expecting. Doesn't mean it will happen. Let's hope it does happen.
Hemantha
Please read all the comments from cj. (01775546506559781128)
That house looks fake to me. They have deliberately left everything as was to mislead the troops. Usually they at least trash the places up and make them unusable. This one is very suspicious.
For others, 5 km to Challai for 55.
5 kilometers? then the 55 will not be able to capture challai before next week
some of my posts were written by a FAKE-CJ,who hacked my account.
Dr J aka puka J said Current bunch has no idea about diplomacy, statesmanship or tactfulness - and they didn't need it. These "gode baiyas" "medamulana" method worked"
Okay well well well we have new puke Dr Pandeeth from CMB7.
PHD in foreign affairs. Pala pako yanna. Your species are right on top of the danger zonei n our main stream political stage. I have not seen any deferent between Mervin silva and you. you think you are a classy fuck but you are the baiya to majority of sri lanka. Just because you could read and write in English you wont be far superior ..you donkey. There are few singhala traitors’ jumps around this blog. Wait till Asitri bro come . He will give you white ass lickers aka koti patiyas the right injection.
Listen donkey, This is a new beginning. You kalu sudass dream of ruling our country while sipping single malt with Caramelized Gloucestershire is over. Welcome to new era of Maha Kalu Singhala. A era that every house there will be red rice and kola malum.
Once we got out this bloody war .. see the way GR win all important diplomat. He is a smart operator. He is not a donkey like you .Do you think Germany and Switzerland will bother to issue even a statement condemning his comments?. Bullshit they nor they cross the lines. ..
Any way ….Who are you when compare to GR. You are not worth of his fart. Go and join RW and MS’s fuck each others society. I heard (Aw)mangala is giving free condoms.. donated by red cross and UN.
Dr.. hik hik
Gona
Well said bro. Someone has to put these "doctors" in their place.
Ninja,
"Please read all the comments from cj. (01775546506559781128)"
Thanks. Really funny.
CASC
Thanks
I note down as Option 2, 58.
Thanks
Loku Banda -UK
No worries bro.
Im not well verse in english. I tried my best. Just wanna remaining 0.1% sri lankan idiots to get the message as 99.9% of we sri lankan's understood since Marvillaru . Message is simple. Without any argument '' GR and SF and the team is the only good thing happen to our country for decades. probably after Puran appu’s Era''..
LTTP sakilyas and their henchiyas.. get it.. wait till 4th over you will see more not only talk few actions. traitors will be published and throw to the Indian ocean.
LokuB & CJ;
Small suggestion. Pls keep your sources hidden. I don't think military encourages leaking such [faulty] information. A Gota who can call Sirasa crap in TV will never hesitate to take "appropriate" action on this kind of chaps.
Surely, did your informants know that you're posting the goz with their details?
Re: Challai
Two fronts have no scope to move. Someone has to come around from other end. Even for teh rest of Mula stretch same theory goes.
Pardon me if there is a pragmatic difficulty.
Bro Ranil ponnaya has already tried to take some credit when he was actually fighting to divide the country.
You know it is the working class village folks that do all the brave work on front-line.
I also feel ashamed to be in UK and writing in a defence blog. But after the victory, we need to make sure that the people who fought get to eat the fruit.
Already some sudas are planning on bringing back Ranil ponnaya for "economic development". We need to make sure that never happens.
After so many years of suda development our folks in the villages are yet to get anything.
Only MR-GR-SF team will bring any good to the real people of our country.
/ cj said...
some of my posts were written by a FAKE-CJ,who hacked my account./
does he hack like twice a day.. every day?
According to the updated map, 55 is far away from Chalai.
I think it would take a week or more to get there.
I do not mind it is slowing down if we can reduce the casualties of our own soldiers and the civillian.
Eventually Tigers have to surrender. The best we need to counter attack the foriegn media who are supporting LTTP. Do not worry about TN shit. They are just shit/jockers and even India don't care.
SLN has to step up in attacking from the sea.
Lalith's opinion poll.
Who will catch the Fat Pig
1 59
2 58
3 57
4 53
5 55
6 TF2
7 TF3
8 TF4
9 Other Division
10 Escape
Please make a selection in the Lalith's Opinion Poll.
I am collecting the names.
The winner will be annouced in two weeks.
Situation as at 03-02-09
VP's pressure 167 122
VP's weight 136 KG
Aiyamperumal 01 KM
ALANKULAM 01 KM
Ampalavanpokkanai 01 KM
Chalai 00 KM 55 Captured on 25-01-09
Chilarattai 01 KM
Chu'ndikku'lam 00 KM - 55 Captured on 14-01-09
Chuthanthirapuram 01 KM
Dharmapuram 00 KM - 58 Captured on 13-01-09
IRANAIIRUPPAIKULAM 01 KM
IRANAMADU East 01 KM - 57 Captured on 15-01-09
Kaddaikadu 01 KM - 58 Captured on 15-01-09
KALAMADUKULAM 01 KM - 57 Captured on 17-01-09
KULAWEDDIDAL 01 KM - TF 2 Captured on 12-01-09
Kalmadukulam 01 KM
Ka'ndaava'lai 01 KM 58 Captured on 18-01-09
KARUPPADDAMURIPPU 01 KM
Keridattadu 00 KM - TF 4 Captured on 12-01-09
Kevil 00 KM - 53 Captured on 11-01-09
KULAWEDDIDAL 01 KM
Kuravilkulama 01 KM
Mamulai 01 KM
Marathampuval 01 KM
Masar 01 KM
Mullativu 00 KM - 59 Captured on 25-01-09
Murusamoddai 00 KM - 58 Captured on 12-01-09
Moongkilaa'ru 01 KM
Olumadu 01 KM
Palamattalan 01 KM
PALLEYADIRAKKAM 01 KM
PANDISUNDAN 01 KM
Periyakulam 01 KM
PIRAPPAVADDUVAN 01 KM - 59 Captured on 17-01-09
Pu'liyampokka'nai 01 KM - 58 Captured on 17-01-09
Puliyansekkaran 01 KM
Punnainiravi 01 KM
Puththukudirippu 01 KM
Ramanadhapuram 01 KM - 57 Captured on 16-01-09
Sinnaittimadu 01 KM - 57 Captured on 18-01-09
Tanniyuttu 00 KM - 59 Captured on 12-01-09
THADDAMODDAI 01 KM
Theravikulam 01 KM
Theravikulam 01 KM
Thonikal 01 KM
Udaiyaarkaddu 01 KM
Udayankattukulam 01 KM - TF 2 Captured on 17-01-09
Vaddakkachchi 00 KM - 58 Captured on 12-01-09
Va'l'lipunam 01 KM
Vannankulam 01 KM
Vellamullivaikal 01 KM
Vellikandal 01 KM
Vishwamadu 01 KM - 58 Captured on 28-01-09
VP's Asshole ?? KM
The following program explains the current war.
WHILE ( area held by LTTP > 0 AND number_of_LTTP_carders > 0)
1 LTTP stay with Civillian
2 Fire at SLA
3 SLA responses
4 Civillian & some LTTP get killed & injured
5 Dispora supporters & TamilNut publish no of casualties in the web & news papers
6 TN jockers & other LTTP supportes in other countries start agitating by protesting, fasting & other crap and asking for Ceasefire
7 International Community & India ignore
8 SLGO ignores, MR/GR/SF ignore & continue to attack LTTP and defeat
9 LTTP withdraws with Civillians (By force)
10 SLA takes over the town/areas
11 Mahen & Peter write stories about tactical withdrawals
12 Dispora supporters believe in tactical withdrawal and keep the dream alive
13 We read Mahen & Peter blogs and laugh from the ASS
Jump_to_sea() OR self_immolation() OR swallow_cn()
END
Situation as at 03-02-09
VP's pressure 167 122
VP's weight 136 KG
Aiyamperumal 01 KM
ALANKULAM 01 KM
Ampalavanpokkanai 01 KM
Chalai 00 KM 55 Captured on 25-01-09
Chilarattai 01 KM
Chu'ndikku'lam 00 KM - 55 Captured on 14-01-09
Chuthanthirapuram 01 KM
Dharmapuram 00 KM - 58 Captured on 13-01-09
IRANAIIRUPPAIKULAM 01 KM
IRANAMADU East 01 KM - 57 Captured on 15-01-09
Kaddaikadu 01 KM - 58 Captured on 15-01-09
KALAMADUKULAM 01 KM - 57 Captured on 17-01-09
KULAWEDDIDAL 01 KM - TF 2 Captured on 12-01-09
Kalmadukulam 01 KM
Ka'ndaava'lai 01 KM 58 Captured on 18-01-09
KARUPPADDAMURIPPU 01 KM
Keridattadu 00 KM - TF 4 Captured on 12-01-09
Kevil 00 KM - 53 Captured on 11-01-09
KULAWEDDIDAL 01 KM
Kuravilkulama 01 KM
Mamulai 01 KM
Marathampuval 01 KM
Masar 01 KM
Mullativu 00 KM - 59 Captured on 25-01-09
Murusamoddai 00 KM - 58 Captured on 12-01-09
Moongkilaa'ru 01 KM
Olumadu 01 KM
Palamattalan 01 KM
PALLEYADIRAKKAM 01 KM
PANDISUNDAN 01 KM
Periyakulam 01 KM
PIRAPPAVADDUVAN 01 KM - 59 Captured on 17-01-09
Pu'liyampokka'nai 01 KM - 58 Captured on 17-01-09
Puliyansekkaran 01 KM
Punnainiravi 01 KM
Puththukudirippu 01 KM
Ramanadhapuram 01 KM - 57 Captured on 16-01-09
Sinnaittimadu 01 KM - 57 Captured on 18-01-09
Tanniyuttu 00 KM - 59 Captured on 12-01-09
THADDAMODDAI 01 KM
Theravikulam 01 KM
Theravikulam 01 KM
Thonikal 01 KM
Udaiyaarkaddu 01 KM
Udayankattukulam 01 KM - TF 2 Captured on 17-01-09
Vaddakkachchi 00 KM - 58 Captured on 12-01-09
Va'l'lipunam 01 KM
Vannankulam 01 KM
Vellamullivaikal 01 KM
Vellikandal 01 KM
Vishwamadu 01 KM - 58 Captured on 28-01-09
VP's Asshole ?? KM
Lalith's opinion poll.
Who will catch the Fat Pig
1 59
2 58
3 57
4 53
5 55
6 TF2
7 TF3
8 TF4
9 Other Division
10 Escape
Please make a selection in the Lalith's Opinion Poll.
I am collecting the names.
The winner will be annouced in two weeks.
My personal belief is not to hurry up on Chalai. We can take the parallel land masses in the inner area and focus on securing the A35 (while going around on the East axis).
Eventually, Chalai will fall like how EPS fell.
Indeed Moshe, I'm waiting for Mr President to issue no-more-chance-to-surrender, a form of death notice.
Regarding MIA;
Genuine talent, should be praised for getting there with English not even being her mother tongue. She stands all her chances to take away the awards.
Nevertheless I'm sure she'll fart away while on stage. A die hard supporter of pussycats, she should be treated how we treat the Malathi babes.
It is a waiting game for us. In fact louder she farts, smell gets further. Every pussycat supporter had to read the word subtlety 20 times a day. Pussycats are not washed with perfume for diaspora to kiss everyday in public. Arseholes smell of blood, and the whole world knows that.
MIA can cry for the civilians whom herself and her father and the clan locked inside the monster's den. There will be a tear or two in celebrity-clad crowd. But surely the papers will cover a bit of her past next day. MIA has more to protect than SL. SL is a govt voted by ppl and has the obligation of defending them. MIA has a reputation to protect. She may have spoken for pussycats in her unknown past, fancied being a "terrorist kid" [she better ask how it feels from 12yr olds put to die in hunger in front line], but right now, at this maturity point, her every step will be watched and analyzed.
Again I'm glad that these bitches missing this point. Well what else can she do? She's canvassing for the fairyland Eelam, which she happened to know via bed time tales by momma. This is the future of the hybrid gen of diaspora. They will be die-hard supporters of a fairytale which they have no idea about.
Nevertheless, we ought to support our DeLon to make it a good counter attack. Appreciate ideas on how to boost him.
NOLTTE=Peace
I agree with you.
If we take Puthu (We are very close) and A35, Chalai will fall or Tigers will surrender.
Whne you see the picture of the place that VP was staying, there is no doubt that LTTP is on the run.
Guys look at ORBAT.
It looks like we have already bagged A35
Coast also very important. If we can secure that then no supply/escape route and their suicides can't do what they did last week. Once coast is secured it will be all over.
Regarding MIA:
Is there Al-Quida version of MIA? I like to see some one singing in western media saying 'I am not Al-Quida.. but I never criticize or against Al Quida.. I support blah blah blah...
Guys,
The paint guns found by army is generally used for guerrilla training purposes. Small team covert operations and hostage situations are staged using paint guns to give combat training for commandos.
Rana
That explains it because it was found in suicide camp with pistols as well.
They might have been planning something like Mumbai but put it off after that got negative coverage.
http://www.mawbimanews.com/2009/02/video-of-prabhakarans-main-hideout.html
Those who haven't seen the video of Prabha's lavish bunker.
Guys,
It seems 55 and 59 divisions have a difficult job with sand banks and bunker combinations. Narrow strip of land also make it easy to defend and tigers have upper hand there. These bunkers should be attacked from the sea using heavy guns mounted on SLN attack crafts. The best way to do it attack these banks/bunkers from three sides, from north, south and east. 58 can attack them from west also.
Most vital part of the war is to take control of entire coastal line and box them in the land mass.
This SLA- LTTE endgame is quite fascinating from an outsider's perspective.
It reminds me of the famous line by Clausewitz, i.e. "War is merely a continuation of politics", but in the reverse.
In this case, politics, diplomacy, media, etc are merely a continuation of war.
As the LTTE loses on the battlefield, it has adroitly expanded the definition of 'war' to include politics, media, propaganda and the international community.
From this perspective, what is won on the field of battle by the SLA could well be lost elsewhere. Ending in a result that is totally contradictory to the purely military achievement.
From a game theory perspective- and this sounds hard hearted - I think the SL government needs to press full steam ahead with the military initiative, while giving equal thought and planning to the 'other battlefields'.
That is why I said put 53 in there as well. 53 has a lot of experience from Kilali Nagarcoil days.
Attacking from sea will be difficult because Dvora with heavy guns cant go close to coast and small boats don't have heavy guns. Also suicides are a problem.
Saul
We have heard all these expert views before.
U know what? none of this expert talk harmed LTTE.
Only MR-GR-SF have been able to come this close to defeating terra forever.
So lets let the real experts (MR-GR-SF) get on with the job.
All your theories can be fed to the cattle after we wipe out terra.
Loku Banda
Loku Banda, obviously I am not an expert. We are all armchair generals here giving our opinions. That's why we are online.
But it seems you are an expert. Based on your recommendations to:
...put 53 in there as well. 53 has a lot of experience from Kilali Nagarcoil days.
Attacking from sea will be difficult because Dvora with heavy guns cant go close to coast and small boats don't have heavy guns.
Congratulations Field Marshall! :)
LB-UK,
It is painful to get hit by a paint guns even at 5m distance. It can cause minor injuries also on bare parts of the body. However, usually they use two colours for two teams and practice small scale invasions. Use of heavy cloths can minimise injuries. They can perfect small team assaults by doing it number of times with different combinations.
Rana,
Yes bro. I have been on paint ball trips and they are painful.
But what you said before sounds possible to me. They may be planning a hostage scenario as last resort.
Say if we capture VP they might take some people hostage to try and get him released.
It is important for us to have some commando units that can deal with small suicide hostage situation.
Saul
We are on defence wire commenting on defence related stuff
What you said is same as what all the "doctors" say every time we are on the verge of defeating terras.
This time we won't lose focus because of people like you and your leader Ranil.
Ela da bra video clip
Troops Capture LTTE FDL in Chalai. Northern War Front 2 nd February 2009
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zB0Ihu9g1FU
Loku Banda
What you said is same as what all the "doctors" say every time we are on the verge of defeating terras.
Huh? I thought I was talking about supporting the efforts of the SLA.
This time we won't lose focus because of people like you and your leader Ranil.
Wrong number! I don't even know who Ranil is.
Saul,
What you say using game theory has certain truth in it. However, present SLG regime doing extremely well in all fronts. Majority of international community do not like terrorism. When India is on our side, it really matters to keep IC opinions at bay. Anybody will have concerns about civilian deaths but winning war will be the best political answer for separatism.
Once, we have achieved military win over LTTE politically they will get isolated or marginalised by the IC and the media.
Victor always write the history and losers will be forgotten with no time!
Guys,
With or without knowingly LTTE is playing the game into our hands. They are not going to surrender; it is the best we can expect because by the time military offensives converge into last battle, all hardcore tigers will be wiped out. Then they cannot resort to guerrilla warfare that easily because lack of central command, coordination and supply.
Final cleaning operations must see that all LTTE’s military hardware is accounted and destroyed.
any news regarding putthu? how close we are?
CJ
Have you seen the youtube video?
I told you earlier about taking earthbund at Challai.
Rana
Once, we have achieved military win over LTTE politically they will get isolated or marginalised by the IC and the media.
I totally agree. Which is the reason - as cold blooded as it sounds - the SL leadership should not let the media frenzy get in the way of winning the battle.
Yes pay regard to human lives. Yes try and take care of civilian casualties. But - most important- just finish the LTTE off. Nothing should come in the way of that objective, not for a second.
And once again, in deference to Loku Banda, yes I am a 'highly ranked' armchair general! :)
hiru & kavee,
cheers!
moratusaman,
ela da panty!!!
thanks.
We lived until now without access to the Chalai coastline. It is nice to secure the whole coast and there is no argument. However, we do not want to take the whole coast with a heavy cost. Since the coast line is narrow, it will be an ideal sitting target for LTTE arti-fire. Therefore, it is better to secure A35 and surround LTTE on the Land side, so that essentially they would have to leave the coastline in vain.
Gents,
They are talking about the 2nd bunt in that youtube Chalai clip (1.57 seconds).
Sounds like we may have to face another bunt !!
Dear Rover:
You seemed to be very much mathematically and scientifically oriented. That is great. I am too.
Mathematical models have there limits becuase we start with some assumptions. So it is again debatable. How valid are our assumptions. If we know the limits of science and mathematics, then applications will bring fruits to manskind otherwise they will lead to blind ideologies.
Please provide me information on literature on these things I will be able to read when I have free time.
Also mathematics or not evolution or not if we all are war mongers we can
not survive. But if we are all humanist we will prosper. Since all are not humanists then we need humanists who are ready to back war when it is absolutely necessary.
In summary I am agreeing with you I do not consider you and me as a war mongers.
Thanks!
patriots,
LTTE BULLSHIT about attacks on hospitals is revealed!!
bingo!
take out a microscope and get ready.
take a look at these pics that toiletnet uses to allege we shell hospitals.
can you see a SINGLE spot IN and AROUND the hospital damaged/scratched/discoulered/burnt or otherwise bearing signs of an attack????
NO!!NO!!NO!!NO!!
NO damage whatsoever - proof #1
NO damage whatsoever - proof #2
NO damage whatsoever - proof #3
who gives these proof?? not me! tamilnet; tigers themselves!
they can prove it wrong but i bet they don't have ANY evidence.
where are the damaged hospitals??? where, O where??
no IDIOT can prove me wrong. tamilnet, prove me wrong if you CAN.
we MUST take puthukkudiyiruppu (PTK) and udaiyaarkaddu hospitals. but there is no need to attack them to take them over! those are 2 different unrelated things. we tookover many hospitals without necessarily attacking them. this is yet another such event.
therefore SLA should be TOTALLY undeterred and CONTINUE to do what they have been doing (PLUS newer methods to bring peace).
cc: MoD
cc: tamilnet
Moshe,
LTTP bastards are using civilian casualties to the maximum extent. That is why they keeping civilians by force. They are the culprits not SLA but all these attempts are short lived. What they are doing is staging genocide to blame SLG.
Tamils are aware about this but they are unable to react in fear of reprisal from radicals. It is very similar to our radical’s reaction to humanists.
However, war should proceed until last armed tiger is dead. I know very well our soldiers are not shooting to civilians deliberately but collateral damage is inevitable in a situation like this. It is also their creation not ours.
Guys, Thank you for posting this link
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zB0Ihu9g1FU
brought tears to my eyes, someday I will have his signature on my lion flag.
True Heros
Guys, I believe MOD is working on it.. but though its good highligh in case ............ We have to get DNA and other bio and any kind of prints at Prab hids for verifications, if we capture some meat..
rana,
mate, i don't disagree on civilian casualties. whether we like it or not in ALL the wars men had fought after the 19th century MORE civilians have died than combatants.
there are civilian casualties in vanni but there are NO 'hospital casualties' (so to speak).
of course LTTE sakkiliyas are making a mountain of a molehill. we know that. that's why we don't stop the war.
toiletnet is right about shelling more than 5,000 shells yesterday from ALL fronts. today would be NO different.
as i promised amidst STIFF disagreement from some bloggers, WORST battles ARE fought in mula (not kili). AND (more importantly) they are NOT guerilla battles.
(of course guerilla battles WILL come but they will not be as bad as now. worst ones are fought right now.)
Indika said...
anada usa
i was talking the northern province only
not north and east combined
Indika, you are responding to a Fake Ananda-USA comment. I don't monitor his antics.
Check the Profile ID; that is the only way to differentiate between me and the Fake Ananda-USA.
Sujeewa,
Got your email; thanks. I will reply soon.
Tamilnet Asking for a Political Solution!
After staging an armed struggle coupled with ruthless terror attacks on civilians for more than 30 years and rejecting countless offers and cease fire agreements, LTTE official voice is asking for a political solution at the brink self destruction.
What a joke! LTTE leader Pukeharan refused to accept anything other than separate sovereign state for Tamils. He chased out all other people from North and east and killed more Tamils than Sinhalese or Muslims. He builds up LTTE’s military capabilities along with terror activities to conquer the complete island one day and boasted about bringing the next eelam war to Colombo and make SLG bleed to death.
Our small nation which is blessed by all known divinely forces are not to be taken by cheap terror tactics. Racist Tamil minority who staged this war against peace loving majority will be wiped out. Make no mistake about that.
They should have asked for a political or any other solution before they have supported fascist regime of Pukeharan. Now it is too late for anything other than total annihilation of Tamil militancy movement.
We will protect and nurture peace loving Tamils and Muslims in Sri Lanka.
helayek@gmail.com,
good work.
i agree that we need to declare a GENUINE independance day in place of what we have now - a nominal independance day when our colonial masters (they were not that bad though) decided what we should get and when we be given that.
i also propose a new national anthem.
the existing one is based on what the fcuk i can get from SL (fruits, veggies, flowers, grains, and 'take us to a victory land', etc.)
the new one should be based on what the fcuk i MUST give to my country, SL.
it should follow the song, 'hela jathika abhimane' (gives me goose bumps just thinking!!)
My Comment at ExpressBuzz.com
This Editorial states "The truth is that Sri Lanka is a sovereign nation and neither India nor anyone else has a right to interfere in what is essentially an internal matter." Then it asserts that "There is no doubt whatsoever that New Delhi has a duty to guarantee the Tamils of Sri Lanka." These two statements are CONTRADICTORY. If the second duty is to be FULFILLED, then the first truth must be VIOLATED! If these CONTRADICTORY PRINCIPLES are applied to India by PAKISTAN & BANGLADESH on behalf of over 200 million Indian Moslems, and by CHINA on behalf of the Mongoloid peoples of the Northeastern and Northwestern states of India, the INTEGRITY & SOVEREIGNTY of INDIA will be at RISK. INDIA HAS NO DUTY TO TAMILS IN SRI LANKA...THAT IS THE SOLE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE SOVEREIGN NATION OF SRI LANKA.
rana,
"Tamilnet Asking for a Political Solution!"
so we have finally come to the MOST dangerous battle.
NEVER forget the problem is NOT the war (it is the solution!!!!) but SEPERATISM.
we should not miss the wood for the trees.
the problem in SL is SEPERATISM. war is only a manifestation of it.
we should fight it with the same intensity, ruthlessness, ferocity as we fought the war.
the political solution should be for SL-the nation and its ppl (as far as they are part of the nation), not for the tamil diaspora, tamils, sinhalese or muslims.
it should not ridicule the sacrifices of our soldiers.
Moshe,
Well said, bro.
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