Thursday, October 2, 2008

57 gets a new Brigade

Army Commander Lt. General Sarath Fonseka has rewarded his best General by making him the Commander of the Sri Lanka Army's largest Offensive Division, the 57 Division.

Major General Jagath "Chula" Dias of Gajaba Regiment is now the Commander of 10,000 troops in a single Army Division following the Commander's decision to raise the 574 Brigade. The 574 comprises of 2,500 fresh troops under the able leadership of Lt. Colonel Senaka Wijesooriya, another battle hardened officer.

The 57 Division has borne the brunt of the operations so far having marched through areas considered impossible to capture, including Madhu, Tunukkai, Mallavi, Uylankulam, Akkarayan and soon, Kilinochchi and Mankulam.

The 57 has killed the largest number of LTTE cadres in operations so far and gone head on into battle with the LTTE's so-called elites from Charles Anthony to Ratha Regiments. It had only one setback at Akkarayankulam where it lost 55 men in fierce fighting but had the Charles Anthony and Ratha Regiments running with its tail between its legs on all other occasions.

In July this year, the 57 Division, teaming up with Special Forces units killed close to 100 Charles Anthony unit cadres at Vavunikulam. 'Lt. Col' Pallavan, the overall Commander of the Charles Anthony unit and Anbu, the local area leader were among those killed in the attack. A rescue mission led by Bhanu, Lawrence and Lakshman were severely beaten back.

The capture or Kilinochchi will be a fitting tribute to Chula Dias, having served in the Kilinochchi SLA Garrison and Kokavil Detachment as a young officer in the 1980s and the 90s.

The 574 is the first indicator of the Army's decision to increase troop strength in existing Offensive Divisions instead of raising new Divisions. It is only fitting that the first recipient of this expansion was General Chula Dias. The induction of the 574 and its fresh troops will be a relief to troops fighting day and night, sunshine or rain in the frontlines.

Meanwhile in the Weli Oya sector, the 59 is now facing a Tiger trenchine which we reported was under construction several weeks ago. The trenchline goes from the northern shore of the Tannimurippu Tank to Nayaru Lagoon.

In a way, this commitment of troops by the LTTE is a blessing as the areas lying ahead of the trench is mostly open terrain. It will provide the SLA an opportunity to kill as many LTTE cadres as they possibly could before stepping into the open terrain ahead. Perhaps this justifies the Commander's decision to slow down the pace of the operations in Weli Oya.

In other news, the SLAF claimed it bombed three vital locations in Kilinochchi yesterday including an LTTE administrative base. SLAF sources have confirmed direct hits on all three targets but the exact damage caused to the Tigers is unclear.

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True Sri Lankan said...

Guys.. Take some time to read this article...
Breathtaking Hypocrisy
Someone is proactively winning its war on terrorism rather than just reacting to merciless, random attacks on its citizenry. Hip, hip, hooray!

Thambapanniya said...

thank you wayva DW :-) keep em coming

perein said...

Thank you again DW.
Theruwan saranai for all our brave hearts.

What happened to the LTTE earlier build up near Killi?

kuttu said...

Hi hi

RED BIRDS are in action. Next time they will hit ? where, can you guess ??. Definitely …… VP’s ASS. Hi hi

True Sri Lankan said...

Ethnic crisis in Sri LankaIndia is in a position of not interfering with the internal affairs of other countries, but hopes for an amicable solution soon.

Defencewire said...

true sri lankan,

Very good article. Thank you for posting the link. In fact we were just talking the other editors and I, about writing something on those lines.

su said...

DW,
the quantity of the Comments has increased.. But cheak the Quality....

Keep up the Goodwork...
:)

Defencewire said...

perein,

We expect the counter attack will definitely come. When is the question. But the LTTE must counterattack with at least 1000 cadres against a 10,000 man 57 Division. 100-500 cadre attacks just won't do. It will have to take on Divisions other than the 57, including TF-1 and 2 if any significant reversal is to be achieved. This means losing majority or all its reserves in one single go. This is a very risky proposition for them. Perhaps this is why the counterattack has not come yet.

Defencewire said...

su,
Yes that is quite unfortunate. But the blasteelamers package could come in handy.

perein said...

DW-
Thank you for the 1000 vs 10,000 comment.
Is there a possibility they keep us hold on this location while VP+ higher trying to escape from other side?

LKDOOD said...

army is hitting Kilinochchi with heavy artillery & multi barrel rockets

LKDOOD said...

DW

thanks for the update

perein said...

lkdood-

army is hitting Kilinochchi with heavy artillery & multi barrel rockets...

We do not get your links any more.. what happend to those macho...

Hon.VP said...

assassinrajive

Come to me brother, don’t afraid, I know that you have a pain in your ass, I can clear you ass, after that there won’t be any pain, please come to me. If you are afraid of me I can ask KUTTU to do it. Time is very short brother you have to take a decision quickly, I can understand your pain but what to do.

shyam said...

VP

Why are you calling KUTTU, he has double crossed us, you were telling about clearing of assassinrajive’s ass. Ok I will do it don’t call KUTTU for that.

kuttu said...

Hi hi

Both of them are mad. Pot is boiling. Poor guys (I mean Pigs) hi hi.

thiru said...

Ado KUTTU,

What are you up to, be careful VP is mad these days. Shit my ass is also paining now.

Ruslan said...

Sea route is the only is escape route for the VP and the band. escape through air is can be ruled out because we already got our hands with MIG 29s now. (Detection Range is longer than previous occasion)

PHANTOM-X said...

DEFENCE WIRE

DO NOT LET PEE-LAM PEE-DOM PI-TER USE RELIGIOUS FIGURES.

Political Observer said...

This move to increase the 57th's strength is a good one. I would however send units from another division with a mix of new recruits, so the 57th is not diluted too much. It is much harder to engage the enemy with green recruits than without them at times.

Moreover, it is important to correct the impression that 10:1 will be the ratio on contact. As DefenceWire will agree, at the actual points of contact, the ratio will be closer to 1:2 or a little bit better for the SLA.

This is because the LTTE will concentrate its attacks on one of the brigades, or parts of a brigade. They have the initiative to choose their target and they know that winning against a dug in defence means superior tactics, and force multipliers such as mobile mortar units.

That said, 574 is crucial for the 57th, as now there is the potential to increase the strength of the LTTE’s targeted unit (571-3) by 50%.

This move by Gen. Fonseka will make the LTTE's counter strike that much less effective.

I have noted that the tactics--especially the use of small, hunter-killer units from Vakarai onwards--is crucial in keeping civilians out of the line of fire and focusing on the enemy. You have many admirers of this phase of how the war is being conducted.

So, I wish the 57th best of luck, as the LTTE is now at its dangerous best with no where to run and fewer places to hide. As I mentioned before, for me preserving the lives of these gallant men is as important as fighting the LTTE.

Finally, I hope when the flood of civilians come, the SLA uses technology to discern who has fired weapons, as that is evidence enough to detain them without violating human rights. Those with such evidence needs to be carefully looked over and documented, as they are also candidates for counter espionage, particularly if treated well.

P.O.

The Punisher said...

Ho..ho VP's got a second bitch, mind sitting on his ding dong and let the soreness go away...

By the way, they use 1,000 against 10,000 it will still be 10:1, with tech behind, and with them running low on supplies, I think they dont have a major chance other than try to delay the inevitable. with the 57th I think also TF2 is runnng strong by taking on the major offensive in Mannar and taking on the major sea tiger bases, my concern are the TF2 and 59th, but I hear they have been asked to move in slower, guys the real fact is that the best units stand behind the Muhamalai lines, enough fire power to polverise them, I also have a feeling the Mig 29s will be used at the EP battle, do dismantle the Anti Aircraft defence system, bringing 1st step for distruction of the LTTE in EP.

Renegade! said...

defencewire,

can u pls publish an analysis of the current SLAF's advanced capabilities, for instance the acquisition of Night-vision devices,advanced UAV's,Fuel Air Bombs(FAB),reported by NIGHTFOXY,etc,,

True Sri Lankan said...

Over 60 terrorist killed in yesterday's clashes in Wanni

Peter said...

Someone seems to be obsessed with Raatha Vaankaapu Padaiaani; even going to the extent of implicating the unit in deep-penetration and infantry activities.

True Sri Lankan said...

DW
Regarding the link I posted and your idea of writing something on those lines, Yes.. I thin it's a good idea. As much as the war is going on, We need to build positive propaganda as much as possible. At the beginning of 2006, although sad to say, most of the Sri Lankans were very pessimistic about the capabilities of our forces. But now we see a change in every body's attitudes. The tide has turned against the LTTE. We must funnel it, fuel it and do what ever we could to make the tide stronger and stronger till we are certain Prabakaran and his band of mother fucking tigers are no more.

This positive tide which I was talking about, should be made stronger overseas as well.. cos 50% of the war is fought in Europe,Canada and USA. Our fellow Sri Lankans living overseas has a big role to play. If each individual try their best to create awareness about the real situation in this country, even in a small way it would be of help. Start from simple things like e mailing informative articles to friends and things like that.
Always keep in mind. We have not yet won! Yes we are almost there, But remember Wadamarachchi! Lets not let such a thing happen this time. This is the time.. We got to hit it right this time.. WE WILL HIT IT RIGHT THIS TIME!

Srilankan said...

These LTTE "open spaces" are a bad idea because i am sure their artillary is well placed to kill as many of our brave heroes as possible.

Srilankan said...

True Slankan,
Very well said..Fully agree with you bro.By the way any news of that Greek Canadian bastard who showed us his caucasian arse?..wonder what he is doing now to support the LTTE.What about mass protests called by the LTTE in Canada..(tea and cake time)?

Srilankan said...

True Sri Lankan,
60 LTTE cadres were not killed.It was just 60 civilian cross dressers.

Peter said...

What does a 31 year old, unmarried, male do on a Thursday night?

Go to sleep Buddhike.

The Punisher said...

I think he means Budhdhika...ah...I dont see a Budhdhika in this blog...I think he is fantasisng to do sumthing..oh mine "anotherones changed his sex"

True Sri Lankan said...

ACF: Reveals Its Humanitarian Face
This the second time I post a link relating to the Muttur incident. That is cos i think it is something we all should read and be aware of.

History said...

I think giving more power to 57 is a good idea, but it is even better if Army can looks into increase the number of DPUs unit that they have deployed in the north and east more and more and more... DPU needed to be equiped with more sophisticated and deadlier weapons with the added support of technology....

To me DPU is the way ahead.. they will have work to do for next ten years as well (even though this war will soon be over)..

gareth40000 said...

Well the key to DPU units is that they move in smaller units, with smaller weapons and being incognito.
its like get in fast, come out fast and not get noticed till the hit..
The Sri Lankan LRRP units for a long period of time have been extremely successful at this art that the wiki article says the leadership was in hiding till the cease fire,looks like the tigers will have to run back into there rat holes once again..

ameer said...

Probably the most inspirational army leader I've personally known is Major General Fonseka, "A true leader has the confidence to stand alone, the courage to make tough decisions, and the compassion to listen to the needs of others. He does not set out to be a leader, but becomes one by the quality of his actions and the integrity of his intent."
I proud of where I am living “Sri Lanka” and the time I am living, I loudly say to tigers if you all brave enough take this determined bunch of Brave men’s. If you all want to be in history of Sri Lanka face them, otherwise they are going find you as covered VB men’s.
“Success doesn't come to you... you go to it. THAT’S what ARMY SAYS,”
"The difference between a successful person and others is not a lack of strength, not a lack of knowledge, but rather in a lack of will."

I am not lucky enough that I am not one of the motivated SF’S. God bless all brothers, our prayers always with you all. I would thank you all from the bottom of my heart.

ameer said...

Probably the most inspirational army leader I've personally known is Major General Fonseka, "A true leader has the confidence to stand alone, the courage to make tough decisions, and the compassion to listen to the needs of others. He does not set out to be a leader, but becomes one by the quality of his actions and the integrity of his intent."
I proud of where I am living “Sri Lanka” and the time I am living, I loudly say to tigers if you all brave enough take this determined bunch of Brave men’s. If you all want to be in history of Sri Lanka face them, otherwise they are going find you as covered VB men’s.
“Success doesn't come to you... you go to it. THAT’S what ARMY SAYS,”
"The difference between a successful person and others is not a lack of strength, not a lack of knowledge, but rather in a lack of will."

I am not lucky enough that I am not one of the motivated SF’S. God bless all brothers, our prayers always with you all. I would thank you all from the bottom of my heart.

History said...

The Vadamarachci operation was closing in on Prabhakaran when the arrogant Indians launched the rescue operation.

-1987 June 4th

But within next couple of days JR intelligently throw the ball back to India, so at the end India learnt the lession of the century..

Are they ready to repeat what they did today ??? If yes that will be the begining of the end of India.

gareth40000 said...

Trust me..

The indian government will not put there hands into this battle, they will purely be observers,they do want to see the endof the LTTE, but do not want to get involved because of Tamil Nadhu, but will push the state of Tamil Nadhu to crack down on the LTTE members inside, blaming it on insighting violence, we need the arms to stop flowing from Tamil Nadhu and the indian army is the only one who will do so, this is the smart game and they should keep doing this till the end of the war, that will be enough, stopping funds and weapons from that bay means the LTTE's supply chain is already shrinking,time is already showing us the result of this, if we keep doing this, there gona realise that there guns in the battle field are out of bullets, then the closure is ensured.

Corey said...
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silentknight said...

interesting news,...574 brigade into action. maybe this is part of SF's contingency plan, should the tigers concentrate on wiping out 57D.
another thought that occur'd to me was that,if we ourselves know the frailty of their counter-attack strategy, how must it effect any rational minded tiger?....
we are basically at a point in this war where our next step is banked on the ferocity of the tigers counter-attack.....
interesting days to come.

Corey said...

Corey said...
Hmmm, Will the (false) Human rights alarmists comment on this?:

http://www.asiantribune.com/?q=node/13498

Proposed 42-day pre-charge detention in the United Kingdom: PACE expresses "serious doubts"

Fri, 2008-10-03 02:10
Strasbourg, 03 October,

The Council of Europe Parliamentary Assembly (PACE) today expressed concern about elements of draft counter-terrorism legislation in the United Kingdom that would enable the detention of a terrorist suspect for up to 42 days without charge, with limited judicial review.

The parliamentarians expressed "serious doubts" whether all the provisions of the draft legislation are in conformity with the European Convention on Human Rights. "A lack of appropriate procedural safeguards may lead to arbitrariness", the unanimously adopted text underlines.

Also, parliamentary involvement in the extension of pre-charge detention, as proposed, "is not appropriate". Hence, from the perspective of the separation of powers, "the decision to maintain a person in custody is a judicial function with respect to which a legislative, political body should, as a matter of principle, have no say."

The Assembly resolved to undertake a thorough study on this subject. According to the parliamentarians, the British draft legislation should be examined within the framework of a more general comparative study in order "to assess, in particular, the compatibility of such legislation with the European Convention on Human Rights".

Pretty soon the whole world will realize that when fighting manic terrorists, one need to have strict regulations such as detention of suspects....and the world will aslo see that those who support terror will keep barking at these so-called 'violations!'

Rgds,
E.C.

hemantha said...

"The 574 Brigade commenced functioning on Wednesday in the 57 Division front with 7 and 10 Sri Lanka Light Infantry battalions"

"In addition to the formation of this new Brigade the Army headquarters too is preparing the groundwork for the formation of another offensive Division to be added to the battlefront soon to enhance the military pressure on the LTTE."

Defence Column-Daily News

silentknight said...

guys,
if we are to get another offensive div, where do you think it will be deployed?

Infinity said...

Defence Column, Daily News: Wanni liberation enters most crucial stage

Also Progress Maps

hemantha said...

"if we are to get another offensive div, where do you think it will be deployed?"

Between 56 and 59 divisions in Vavunia (I guess).

Moshe Dyan said...

"It will provide the SLA an opportunity to kill as many LTTE cadres as they possibly could before stepping into the open terrain ahead."

just love it! maximum harvest.

hemantha said...

Relevancy of DPU is diminishing fast I think. The area they can operate is shrinking fast. Before long (after Pooneryn and E'pass) there would be just a large single offensive. The front line would span along M'thivu, Puliyankulam, K'nochchi and E'pass line and would be shrinking rapidly.

From North: 53 & 55 divisions
West : 57,58 & 62 divisions
South: 59,63 divisions

Total of seven divisions. I guess Mulathivu is too small for that.

Srilankan said...

DefenceWire,
Many thanks for your informative posts.However the Charles Anthony to Ratha Regiments are "invincible" as they have the ability to sprout wings and fly at the first sign of any Danger mainly due to Genetic Engineering by VP.I am also awaiting the engagement of the LTTE "pink buffalo" and "Green walrus" offensive Divisions..

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History said...

hemantha : "Relevancy of DPU is diminishing fast I think. The area they can operate is shrinking fast."

Till we get rain from the sky, Sri Lanka will have forest, till we have forest, carders can hide, till they have weapons (used by LTTE), there will be fights, so at least for next 10 years DPU will have jobs.. In north as well as in the east..

Once again.. DPU is the way to go.. that is if you are to sustain these wins

Rana said...

Vesapillei's monolithic style gave him the power and will to rise. However being a uneducated thug, he couldn't decide when to stop. if he has decide to change during half way throug the CFA story would have been different.

VP cannot pride himself with his military might anymore. He has been beaten fairly and squarely and his golden days of military “might” are long gone and his inabilities being humiliatingly exposed. He has begun to lose the invincible image that he used to command among his loyal Diaspora and the pro-LTTE factions around the world.

His arrogancy and personal ego pave the way for his denise.

However, he is still a terrorist and he is not dead yet, and the only good terrorist is the dead terrorist.

Ninja said...

SLA aimed to recriut
14000 between October and December

SLN send 6000 in wast coast ground duties

SLAF send unknown number of personals to take ground security from SLA in unknown locations

(I don't know the length of the SLA tarining period. But this implies SLA is in short of manpoer in defending libereted areas.)

SLAF bombed LTTE HQ

Every one knew where it is. LTTE used these only when Solhaim vist there, for media purposes. I don't think they had any thing else doing there. But as you can see TN pics the buildings are almost undamaged.

Not all food lorries are checked. As I know UN lorries are not checked, in general. We can safely assume all the civilians still reamining in K'chi are very hard core civilians or LTTE civilian section. And those who left deep inside to LTTE areas also should be hardcore civilians. GSL ahve to send food, medicine and war items too in this food convays to LTTE, thier fighters and hard core civilians just to avoid international issues.

hemantha said...

History,
In the immediate future it will be harder to use DPUs since as the LTTE controlled area is shrinking LTTE cadre+pro LTTE civilian density would increase in Mulathivu. So, deep penetration units would be easily exposed.

I agree with everything you said about the period after the war. Definitely, there would be seek and destroy missions. But I wonder those units would be called "DPU".

Rana said...

VP will command his merderous clan and send his troops to annihilation until Kili, Paranthan and EP are in his hand. When EP is cleared 53 and 55 will come down and his troops in Poonaryn area will have to fight and die or surrender to the army.

When it happened VP will try to escape. He will not let his leaders to join him. He will not commit suicide also. Most probably he will try to leave in a boat with his body guards.

SL Navy must guard eastern sea board with vigilance to prevent that. We must have him and Pottu otherwisw it will be a hollow victory without climax.

Ninja said...

To defend whole N and E I guess we SLA need atleast 200,000 for those areas alone. Thus total SLA strenth need to be atleast 300,000. This is 150,000 incrase or doubling the current strenth and will need at least another 10 years.

If we are to play with current SLA strength we need superb intel, high civilian support and high tech. If SLA don't have enough man power I guess the best thing is to slow down advancing and keep killing LTTE cadres dailly as usual while minimising own casualties.

Ninja said...

Hemantha

In future DPU will get more jobs in Yala, Kanchkudiaru, Thoppigala, Mulathiv eyc. As LTTE start fighting in jungles (thay already started in east) these DPU units can be used to seek and destroy those LTTE cadres. Yes, the name may be not suitable but we can change the name.

And before that, in wanni, actually from one hand it is easy to DPU topenetrate as area is shrinked. They don't need to walk now 60km from Vaunia to reach K'chi. So less effort, less time they need to be undetected from LTTE. On the other had it is easy for LTTE to find them as they have to search now small area. So I think now DP will do quick missions. They don't need spend number of days within enimy territory. Within few hours go, hit and come back. So I think still DPU is in a good position attacking LTTE targets. And right now, still LTTE has large area under them in east of A9.

History said...

Anybody want a snak.. have a look

I made Presidents.but can do nothing if they fail: Chandrika



by the way.. "hemantha", yes we both speak the same language..

Ninja said...

History

We are intersted in hundreds years back history not few months back history.

Arsath said...

It's great to hear that Chula Dias was promoted and strengthened with more troops. As far as I know this is the first time something like this has happened.
Moreover finally SLA has realized the importance of promoting the right people at the right time rather than doing it posthumously.

I like to remember heroes such as Captain Saliya Upul Aladeniya, who fought to death protecting Kokavil camp, but was not recognized until 4 years later.

http://lankalibrary.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=3403


Thanks DW for the update.

History said...

Ninja,

It is just a snak before your dinner .. obviously depending on the part where you live in the world

True Sri Lankan said...

Wanni liberation enters most crucial stage

Moshe Dyan said...

"I made Presidents.but can do nothing if they fail: Chandrika"

chandrika may have made them, but others fathered them. they will follow their fathers, gracefully rule and gracefully retire.

True Sri Lankan said...

What have the LTTE’s NGO/INGO friends being doing in Sri Lanka?

Moshe Dyan said...

"SLA aimed to recriut
14000 between October and December"

part of them are to replace the existing cadre of course.

subject to that new recruits are going to cost over US$40 million a year!! we need ppl if we need them, but i hope someone should have done the calcs THOROUGHLY.

balancing salaries and capital purchases/maintenence of VERY expensive equipments must be managed carefully. otherwise the expenditure escalates and capital purchases/maintenence can suffer with DISASTROUS consequences.

History said...

We are talking about brigade a lot these days.. also we talk about army battalions (word dates to the 16th century), but have you ever thought the origin or that word.. have you heard of bala-eniya (Sinhala word dates even before 5th century BC), did you ever thought about the similarities between these two words,, battalion and bala-eniya.. bala-eniya is a pure Sinhala word. Bala-eniya can be nicely broken in to its sub words (A original word can be broken down into the main words of the language, those main word are called wadan wela, in Sinhala na, ma, ga are some of such main words – believe me they are not character, they are words and they have their meanings too).. So given that there is a very high probability to bala-eniya to be the origin of battalion..

So I am saying all these just to highlight one more time that the WAR yes the war is not new to us, it is in our blood and soul, we are talking about 57 brigades having 10, 000 soldier to support it. Hey buddy, wake up!! I am talking about a war, which its backup unit alone consist of 65, 000 soldiers. That is 2, 500 years ago… so where are we today??

True Sri Lankan said...

LTTE's Abuse of Government Concessions Will Jeopardise Humanitarian Supplies

History said...

Where is that idiot FreedomFighter??

When I don't see something posted by that bugger once in a while, I feel upset.. just like something is missing missing..

May be he is busy finding some one to fk his mother and sister..

or may be he is busy giving his ashole to ever running LTTE cardres

deborak said...

DW,

I really appreciate your UNBIASED publication of the article.

Thoughtful Guy said...

HI guys....just so that I can understand properly....
1)what is the make up of a "Division"...I mean, if we take the 57..are all 10,000 men fighting formations or are they broken again in to offensive, clearing, defensive, Support, Medi-vac, reserves etc etc........

2)Does a division only consist of infantry, what about field support guns, armour, Crack troops etc? Do tehy function under the command of a seperate CO ,or does the Division Commander has control over all the resources?

If some one who actualy "knows" these things enlighten us all? (I can always refer wikipedia, but I need some relevant contextual knowledge, not a generic wackypedia article)..

Thanks in advance....

Sam Perera said...

moshe dyan,

I saw CBK's words somewhere that she made presidents. The first thought came to my mind was if Chandrika made others predidents then who made Chandrika the president. This a clear indication that CBK still thinks that she owned our country. This is a concept her brother her brother always brought forward. Anyway, I am glad that we are done with them and we have a whole new journey ahead of us after reducing LTTE to dust.

Rover said...

Congratulations to Chula Dias, well done commander.

But the interesting thing for me in this piece by DW was

"In a way, this commitment of troops by the LTTE is a blessing as the areas lying ahead of the trench is mostly open terrain. It will provide the SLA an opportunity to kill as many LTTE cadres as they possibly could before stepping into the open terrain ahead. Perhaps this justifies the Commander's decision to slow down the pace of the operations in Weli Oya."

I always wondered this. LTTE was never good at defense, except in the narrow stretch of land beyond Muhamali/NagarKovil. So did the brilliant commander pro actively let the LTTE build those trench lines, which pretty much relegated the highly mobile LTTE units to a defensive role? Is it the reason why SLAF didn't really go after the earth moving machinery of the LTTE? Finally, did the Norwegian INGO that gave those machinery to the LTTE do it under the covert instruction of the army? My last query is probably not true, but who knows.

True Sri Lankan said...

Indian Tamil Politician And Hypocrisy

Rover said...

DW,

"Very good article. Thank you for posting the link. In fact we were just talking the other editors and I, about writing something on those lines."

It is poorly written, I think you should go ahead with your plan.

Moshe Dyan said...

sam,

fully agree.

she was trying to MANAGE the WAR for PEACE which she beleieved would be a FEDERAL-like "solution" based on RACE. in that plan LTTE would DEFINETELY survive and be PEACEFUL. how naive and inexperienced?

she found a FANTASTIC friend in ranil in 2002.

but i'm SURE the bitch will do SOMETHING to create trouble. that is why i blame MR for NOT grooming a successor. basil (??) ALONE is not enough. there should be many captains in the making.

Rover said...

For me, the human rights activists, and the terrorists/fundamentalists are the two extremes of a continuum. Government of like Sri Lanka, India, USA are the moderates. And it makes a normal distribution (generally only a very few human rights activists and terrorists, but most are moderates). A good point for someone to write an article on, I think.

Thoughtful Guy said...

no one to answer my question?? :-((

Apino said...

Guys

defense.lk had posted vid:Aerial visuals of Kilinochchi air strikes (Sep 26 - Oct 01)

http://www.defence.lk/videos/Air_Strick_Charles_Anthony20081001.wmv

Cheers
Apino

Rover said...

Thoughtful guy,

Usually, a division is the unit that can do operations independently. So it would consist of all the brigades ect. that are needed to do an operation. Though 57 is the largest division for Sri Lanka, in other larger nations a division is much larger. Several divisions would make up a corp. Hope this helps.

Rover said...

I mean corps.

Rover said...

Thanks Apino, did you notice the quality of the footage? Must be one of the newer UAVs that we got from the friendly nation ;)

Thoughtful Guy said...

Thanks Rover......... so I m assuming the 57th has all types of briagdes under it... SF/Arti/Medi/Armour etc etc....

Rover said...

yes sir.

TropicalStorm said...

Ameer

The undoubted military leader of our times has been none other than V Prabakaran. Irrespective of our dislike of the person, his military and strategic acumen has been unsurpassed by anyone else we've seen so far. To understand my point of view you need to objectively understand that he had what it took to reach the position of absolute dictator to start with, and could motivate thousands of young men and women to sacrifice their lives to fight his war, albeit mindlessly.

The battles SL lost were caused by a combination of his military ability and strategic ability to marshall all resources including forign sympathizers to demotivate and pressurize SLG to fight less than 'total war' which he conducted against us. Being able to tie a powerful opponent's hands is also a part of extreme cleverness, and he had mastered it all.

Then he killed Gandhi, but could have managed to scrape thru with it with difficulty.

Then the unimaginable happened on 9/11/2001 and brought the LTTE into sharp focus of the FBI.

As history repeats itself, almsot all major terror organizations have done well and carved a name for themselves until they hit the FBI's radar. The Mafia, Red Brigades, Baader Meinhof, Luminoso Sendero (Shining Path in Peru) and Russian Mafia are just a few of those who seriously suffered as a result.

If not for these events, SLG could still very well be under the spell; unable to fight back and bleeding while the LTTE would have reached an unbeatable force level by now.

With brilliance must come humility. Those illiterate who succeed thru sheer intellect fail at their peak due to the lack of the finer capability to be humble enough to listen to others, the eternal story of the Smart Ass.

TT said...

http://www.defence.lk/videos/Air_Strick_Charles_Anthony20081001.wmv
latest vid from defence.lk

not wanting to put a dampner on things, but dont these look like the target was missed? building probably damaged due to expolision, but cant call it a direct hit - survivable is what i think im trying to say.

TT said...

sorry Apino, didnt see your post :(

TropicalStorm said...

tt

The proximity of the blast is quite enough. This was a building of 4 floors, I believe and such an attack on 2 sides would serioulsy compromise it structurally and any thing buried underground such as a bunker could easily have collapsed.

A follow on strike would have been nice, just to make sure things stay dead. I also expected a bunker-buster type strike than a surface weapon on this place.

Looking forward to some clearer images and clarifications on what happened in this place.

TT said...

cheers for the input tropicalstorm, always appreciated.

B#1 said...

tt,

I believe SLAF got the real target. LTTE is always keep the key locations little bit away from what we can see from the air as the real target (land marks). Best example is SLAF bombed on LTTE fuel storage.

hemantha said...

Greatest military minds would win the war for their people. But likes of Prabhakaran and Hitlar are examples of excellent sickos who made nothing but the death and distruction fall upon their people. I see nothing great in them. Their success up to a certain point might be due to a random luck of a gambler who wins a million starting from a twenty dollar bill. Both can be idiots (the gambler and the sicko) whose success purely depend on polarized randomness. The both may not know where to stop and the gambler would loose everything in the next bet and in Prabha's case we will definitely see the outcome soon.

mboi said...

lol according to The New York Times' Somini Sengupta, the LTTE now has 'fighter jets'.

http://tinyurl.com/3f98uo

Apino said...

Guys looks like SOMINI SENGUPTA had done a "Athas" in calling the tin cans "bomber jets" ....


La ti da ti da....
God Bless Newyork Times if this is the quality of their writers....

Cheers
Apino

Apino said...

Dear tt....no problem Bro...all of us here are trying to spread the good news.

Cheers
Apino

Apino said...

Bro TropicalStorm

Good and objective write up....

Cheers
Apino

BlackPanther said...

Hemantha

Well said.

But I disagree about polarised luck when it comes to P. His success is partly due to our faults. Not recognising and accepting genuine grievances of Tamils made him their hero. We should have addressed these issues before they became problems. P monopolised on these and of course he used the Tamil youth to create him empire.

As you say because he has a sick mind. He has not been able to draw the line and use his power for the good of the Tamils even after the Singhalese politicians and masses have recognised the problems faced by the Tamils. This makes him similar to the gambler were he bets on every thing he has with out being satisfied with what he has.

At some point in the past if only P agreed to negotiate the Tamils would have achieved much more in terms of social stability and recognition. This would have allowed Sri Lanka to flourish. Singhalese, Tamils as well as Muslims would have been able to enjoy the benefits of peace.

We should look forward to end of this dark period of our history and to a new start.

Apino said...

Dear Bro Rover,

Gald to be of service....actually when I posted the link, I had no time to see it for myself ( had to rush out for a game of badminton...its holidays here)

Just saw the thing....Indeed the quality is very much better compared to the previous footage. Like you said, may be we have better optics now...

I only hope SLAF has optics with thermal imaging too...Putty Tatts, their power generators, any metallic object dissipating heat (absorbed during daytime), any vehicle in use will standout like glow-worms.....in the night.

The other day I was watching the BBC DVD series called Planet Earth: they have obtained fantastic wildlife images using new camera system which was original developed for the military.

This Heli-Gimbal camera system mounted on a Jetranger ( I think)copter,had allowed them to hover about 1km away from the target and take HD quality close vids of wild life. Said to be first such attempt ever by commercial TV.

Quality & detail is unbelievable...

I was going to suggest that SLAF obtain such HD camera system and mount it on a Jetranger. Since its gyro-stabilized, they can obtained clear crisp imagery which later can be analyzed for telltale signs of PuttyTatt activity, hidden targets etc.

With the right electronics, they can even give a live feed to the ground commanders ( any bureaucratic middleman should be bypassed) which can direct arti etc based on real-time footage.

I guess 1 km is more than enough to put the copter out of reach of the PuttyTatt AA fire.

You may check the following link:

http://sony.broadcastnewsroom.com/articles/viewarticle.jsp?id=535359

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sn/tvradio/programmes/planetearth/prog_summary.shtml

Hope my comments are not bordering "Hollywood"

Cheers Mate
Apino

P.S. Since you are 4X4 dude...guess you like wild life too (alive I mean:))...then you are ought to see this Planet Earth series...

Apino said...

Kiri Appata Ballo Panapi.....

Even before the dust settles from the previous drops, SLAF is at it agian....guys....check this out....


>>>>>>SLAF pounds Nadeshan's office complex - Kilinochchi

[October 03 2008]

Sri Lanka Air Force fighter jets carried out two successive air strikes, one of them engaged at the main office complex of the high profile LTTE leader, Nadeshan, located in the Kilinochchi town perimeter, this morning, 3 October.<<<<<

Duwanna my PuttTatts....duwana....

Cheers
Apino

Apino said...

And Accurate TamilNut Confirms it Pronto....

>>>>>>>>SLAF attacks Tamileelam Police HQ, artillery barrage on Ki'linochchi
[Fri, 03 Oct 2008, 04:58 GMT]
Sri Lanka Air Force Kfir bombers attacked the Headquarters complex of the Tamileelam Police, located along the A9 Road at the heart of Ki'linochchi town Friday around 9:30 a.m. Three bunker-busting bombs hit the premises of the Tamileelam Police, destroying a hall behind the Police HQ.The main building escaped destruction as Ratha Anti-Aircraft Unit of the Liberation Tigers of Tamileealm (LTTE) fired at the bombers. Two of the bombs hit the nearby store of the Tamils Rehabilitation Orgsniation (TRO) causing damage to it. The attack comes after continuous barrage of artillery and Multi-Barrel Rocket Launcher (MBRL) fire from 7:00 p.m. on Thursday to 4:30 a.m. on Friday, targeting the destruction of the township. Full story >><<<<<<<<<<<<

Nalla Padang wenda Gahanawa Wagei Ape Atho!!!!! Well done....

Ko me Keyboard Chandi....come come...play the old record my friends.....we and the IC had long since stopped dancing to that tune.....

Looking forward to see the footage soon.....

Cheers
Apino

Apino said...

DW,

Why do they "Ratha Anti-Aircraft Unit".......???

I thought Ratha is Desperate Penetration Unit (DPU)....

Cheers
Apino

Apino said...

Gentleman,

In the same TamilNut report they also say....

>>>The windows of Vanni Institute of Technology (VanniTech), a high-tech educational institute founded and fu\ nded by a Tamils association in the Silicon Valley in the USA, shattered by the air strike.<<<<

I strongly suggest that SLAF target this VanniTech too....this can be the place all the data uploading and Photoshop jobs are done . he. he. he

Cheer Weva
Apino

gareth40000 said...

With the relevancy of the DPU, they are highly relevant, after the fall of the LTTE, they are the troops that can infiltrate and get rid of the remaining units, with jungle fighting its a different war fare, the reason I heard that we had trouble doing it before as the terrain was rather new, and we used to be strong unto a point, where afterward we couldn't due to lack of not knowing the terrain, the main reason a soldier highlighted was they didn't know where to get water in this area, the water in this area is found in small springs, which only the tigers with their knowledge of the landscape comes.

With the new division I beleive that some one should put them on the east of the A9, between TF2 and the 59th, as that is where very little movement once the FDL in that area comes further up the chances of a failure are close to zero..

as there is an empty hull in that area, which if filled will b a thorn on the sde, aswell as I should comment that now the navy needs to also focus on the eastern waters, to prevent the infiltration attempts.Prevention as they say is always better that treatment.

PHANTOM-X said...

HOT HOT NEWS...

TODAY RATHA DEEP PENETRATION UNITS PENETRATED INTO THALIVAR'S ASS ACCIDENTLY...WITHOUT OXYGEN THEY ALL GOT KILLED.

Rana said...

Tcup Storm,

I like your posting but cannot agree that VP is a militery genius.

Gen. Patton sai something like this long ago:

No bastard ever won a war by dying for his country. He won it by making the other poor dumb bastard die for his country.

That is exactly what VP did for peelaam.

Rana said...

Garath40K,

I agree. I have always said between Omanthai and Nedukeni no guard. It is easy to infilterate and crate havoc in east.

However, division 57 is not going to be there b'cause TF2 and 56 will be inbetwen.

57 is fully stretched and require additional platoons to guard their back as well as relieving tired troops time to time.

gareth40000 said...

Rana

Very true, but the only way the 57th would be struck would be if the enemy comes from the east end of the A9, as the void as you also agree with exists as well as less presence from the 57th should be in already captured areas, to fill in should come the STF and other non battle units, few units should stay back, but the spear head of the military action should spear on ahead instead of getting bogged down with being the guarding and resettling bit, there is where we need to fix things, and it is time up TF2 and 56th brought there lines to bridge the void between the 59th and 57th, them being back there is not at all helpful.

Srilankan said...

Apino,
"The windows of Vanni Institute of Technology (VanniTech), a high-tech educational institute founded and fu\ nded by a Tamils association in the Silicon Valley in the USA, shattered by the air strike"
VERY INTERESTING piece of info there if true..
Exactly what our people have to do in future..but for ALL the peoples of SLanka.Lets follow their lead..It is not only that.. i suspect that they have also created a "Fund" to educate certain people in this institute at "prestigious" universities overseas..Lets follow their lead..

Ruwani said...

Can anyone update me the army,navy,AF rank hierarchies + In SL how the Division,battalion etc…. forms and how many troops per each unit…

K.B.V.P. Sisira said...

King Dhutugamunu and 10 Giants have re-born and active in Sri Lanka. Don Juwan Wickramasinghe's time is over..

Thoughtful Guy said...

SRI Lankan...

Idea is good......and if some one launches it there will be a massive support too...but as all things are here in SL, once the people who run this fund/institute get the money in their heads, there will be courruption and nothing else...

gareth40000 said...

Again I say

The 4 northern units if they were let loose would make a major upset, once these come out a major part of the Killinochchi and North East can be neutralized, but then when that eventually happens, as I feel very soon the purpose of the Mig29's will come, then we need some one to secure things from the eastern end of the A9,so that theres no way in and no way out for the tigers.

Apino said...

Dear Srilankan,

Good idea....It has to be very very true as it was reported by TamilNut.

Yes, We Sri Lankans should think in similar terms.....credit should be given where its due and this is good initiative.....

Some others too are doing similar things in Sri Lanka under our very noses...since I don't want to sound racist...I will not venture further.

Time to think Sri Lankan

Cheers
Apino

Apino said...

At this rate of engaging targets, soon our checkpoints will discover not GPS & C4 in Vanni bound lorries....but Adult Diapers hidden among juggary sacks and all.

Big Cats, Small Cats all must be shitting bricks these days....

Well Done SLAF!!!

Cheers
Apino

Rana said...

Gareth49k,

exactly bro, this what I always say. I can't understand the logic of keeping east of A9 vulnerable. Why we can't make a straight FDL from Mankulam to Mulative or atleast from Puliyankulam to Nayaru.

I think your wave length is similar to mine mate.

OneSpirit said...

Hemantha/Gareth4k

I stand to be corrected but I think it is the LTTE terrorists that have a DPU. The corresponding unit in the SLA is called the LRRP. I know its just a question of semantics but if you relate to somebody (not from Sri Lanka) that the Sri Lanka Army have a Deep Penetration Unit, they will probably not understand their function. The name Long Range Reconnaisance Patrol aptly fits the role played by these saviours of Sri Lanka - so please let's just call them LRRP.

A named like DPU could have only be coined by the 'smarter' ethnic Sri Lankans.

Theruwan Saranai to our Forces.

shay said...

"Can anyone update me the army,navy,AF rank hierarchies + In SL how the Division,battalion etc…. forms and how many troops per each unit…"

There is no strict rule. It varies for different armies. SLA is largely based on the British model. The following might be useful.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_organization#Hierarchy_of_modern_armies

In the SLA, an infantry battalion has 5 companies of 4 platoons each I think. Usually a platoon has about 30 troops.

So a battalion has 30x4x5 = 600, on average. A brigade consists of several battalions, infantry+support arms.

DW/others can correct me if I'm wrong.

perein said...

Apino-

In the same TamilNut report they also say....

>>>The windows of Vanni Institute of Technology (VanniTech), a high-tech educational institute founded and fu\ nded by a Tamils association in the Silicon Valley in the USA, shattered by the air strike.<<<<


You mean the Tamilnut's internet center gone to ashes !!!... Now they have to call outside Sri Lanka to upload some Bull S***.

gareth40000 said...

Hi OneSpirit

With regard to Long Range Recon, please read the deffinition of recon on google as follows.

Reconnaissance (also scouting) is military and the medical term denoting exploration conducted to gain information. ...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reconnaisance

Our units do not I repeat just scout or explore, they do under cover operations, they actually take out the leaders after recon, so I do have a contradictin with that wording.

perein said...


>>>>>>SLAF pounds Nadeshan's office complex - Kilinochchi


Anee Nadee... Amaruwen pandam allala panagathuu office ekka...

Where is he going to work from now...Surely he cannot go to the battle field. His figure is not suited for the running events !!!

Apino said...

Perein,

He he he....good one...about the Nade boy....motorized wheelchair or Zegway might help....

I'm sure TamilNuts got backup IT facilities stashed around the jungle....BS will still flow...but if you noticed, in the latest report, the usual photos are missing.....he he he may be the SLAF bombs got the photo catcher....he he he....

Or better there is nothing left to photograph ....

May be somebody told the idiot not confirm the accuracy of SLAF drops....

Mada-Wane ( isn't that the name of the big cats wify...) must be putting together big diaper for the Fatso....joining 3 adult diapers might do the trick.....

Cheers
Apino

Apino said...

Dear gareth40000

Interesting post my friend...

Ref. your comment about......"the main reason a soldier highlighted was they didn't know where to get water in this area,.........."

Following may be interesting but may not be practical to our context.....

http://www.wired.com/science/discoveries/news/2006/10/71898


Making Water From Thin Air
Audrey Hudson Email 10.06.06

A company that developed technology capable of creating water out of thin air nearly anywhere in the world is now under contract to nourish U.S. soldiers serving in Iraq.

The water-harvesting technology was originally the brainchild of the Pentagon's Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency, which sought ways to ensure sustainable water supplies for U.S. combat troops deployed in arid regions like Iraq.

"The program focused on creating water from the atmosphere using low-energy systems that could reduce the overall logistics burden for deployed forces and provide potable water within the reach of the war fighter any place, any time," said Darpa spokeswoman Jan Walker.

To achieve this end, Darpa gave millions to research companies like LexCarb and Sciperio to create a contraption that could capture water in the Mesopotamian desert.

But it was another company, Aqua Sciences, that developed a product on its own and was first to put a product on the market that can operate in harsh climates.

"People have been trying to figure out how to do this for years, and we just came out of left field in response to Darpa," said Abe Sher, chief executive officer of Aqua Sciences. "The atmosphere is a river full of water, even in the desert. It won't work absolutely everywhere, but it works virtually everywhere."

Cheers
Apino

sala salang said...

aney budu padesan aiye, umbata mokada wuneeeiiii. api heenen wath hithuwe ne umbata mehema deyak wenna kiyala, aiyyooo mage pade

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Moshe Dyan said...

nede-sung

sune-sung!!

nade & sune pronounced like cafe.

Miliyaa said...

Guys i want airforce to target Rasa Aiya Illankaapiya's mouth next...

Can we know other's choices as well? SLAF is waiting for our requests ;) :P

B#1 said...

SLAF Jets attack Pottu Amman's Intelligence HQ in Kilinochi located 4 km West of Kili Town at 2.30


WOW!!!!!!!!!


Whats going on..........???? :)

Miliyaa said...

B#1 was that ur choice(Pottu)? ;) :P

Seems like SLAF is having some fun with the newly acquired MIG's :))))

Lalith said...

Common LTTE
Write something to satisfy ME

Lalith said...

Common LTTE
Write something to satisfy ME

Lalith said...

Common LTTE
Write something to satisfy ME

gareth40000 said...

Interesting one Apino

The conversation with this soldier took place when I was in hospital for dengue,on the left side was this soldier, same illness, so out of pure interest I questioned him regarding the battle, he says the army used to chase the cadres deep into the dense jungle, but after going in they had to turn round and come back as they hadn't water, but the cadres knew where the under water springs lyed so they couldn't hold the positions once they got in..I hope the army has found a remedy for this, thats one reason I feel this time the 59th is not going at all guns this time, they will take there time and make sure this time they have backup water when hunting them down.

Thoughtful Guy said...

hmmmmm...I hope the SLAF is not doing a "Paalu Geyi Walang Bindinava", by attacking already deserted buildings....

Well we hear that the "attack was based on real time surveillance" then why not the SLAF release the video of this surveillance... (eg- vehicles approaching, people getting in to the meeting, perimeter guards, and then the building getting blown up to pieces...??

bornb4god said...

SCENARIOS-Where does Sri Lanka's war go if rebel capital falls?
Fri Oct 3, 2008 4:42pm IST Email | Print | Share | Single Page [-] Text [+]
By C. Bryson Hull

COLOMBO, Oct 3 (Reuters) - Sri Lankan soldiers on Friday were within 3.5 km (2 miles) of Kilinochchi, the headquarters town of the Tamil Tiger separatist rebels they have fought since 1983 in one of Asia's longest-running wars.

Here are some possible scenarios for what happens if the army takes Kilinochchi, a symbolic target:

MORALE, MARKET BOOST: Taking Kilinochchi would by no means mean an end to the war, but it would be a major political boost to President Mahinda Rajapaksa's government and also to the armed forces' morale. Most financial analysts expect a very short-term rally on the Colombo Stock Exchange .CSE. But it has generally moved on its own fundamentals since the war has been running so long and players are used to it. The rupee currency is unlikely to be affected, since the Central Bank routinely intervenes to prevent any rapid movement.

TIGER CENTRE SHIFTS EAST: If the army occupies the town, it will force the Tigers into hiding in the jungle -- to which they are very accustomed. It will also mean any Tiger administrative offices not destroyed in airstrikes will likely be forced to shift east to the rebel-held port of Mullaitivu. But soldiers are moving toward Mullaitivu from the south, and fighting there has been heavy in recent weeks.

ARMY MOVES DOWN FROM JAFFNA: If the army holds Kilinochchi, it will control all but about 40 km (25 miles) of the A9 road, the main north-south highway that goes through the narrow neck of the Jaffna Peninsula, the northernmost part of Sri Lanka. The army has been garrisoned there since 1995, but the Tigers are dug in across a short no-man's-land on the neck. It is heavily mined and Tiger artillery batteries there and southwest across the water at Pooneryn have inflicted heavy casualties on advancing troops. Should the army punch through the western port of Nachikuddah, where some of the bloodiest fighting of the last month has gone on, it would aim to hit Pooneryn and neutralise the artillery. Doing that would free troops in Jaffna to begin fighting their way down to squeeze the Tigers from two sides.

COUNTERATTACK: The Tigers could do what they have done after losing territory in the late 1980s and early 1990s, which is regroup in the jungles,then drive the army back while inflicting heavy casualties. But security analysts say there are several reasons that is less likely now. First, the army has grown to more than three times its size then, and gone from being a largely symbolic unit to a battle-hardened corps. Second, the military has improved its weaponry and adopted small-unit commando tactics that have proved an effective counter-insurgency strategy. Third, the rebels have been hit hard by the application of anti-terrorism financing laws around the world and interceptions of weapons shipments at sea by the Sri Lankan navy, with Indian assistance.

COLOMBO ATTACKS SPIKE: If the Tigers feel cornered in the conventional war, many analysts fear an increase in bomb blasts in the capital Colombo, more than 300 km to the southwest of the war zone. There have been six in the city since Aug. 30, when a bomb exploded in a market and injured 45 people. It was the worst of the series, but earlier bombs have killed hundreds over the years. However, the city is under heavy security and the government has no compunction about carrying out heavy-handed sweeps of Tamil areas to avert future attacks. (Editing by Jerry Norton)

© Thomson Reuters 2008 All rights reserved

B#1 said...

Miliyaa,

[ Seems like SLAF is having some fun with the newly acquired MIG's :)))) ]

It should be MIG-29

We will have to wait until next independence day to see these birds flying over our heads. But LTTE is very lucky. They don't need to wait :p

Apino said...

Dear Thoughtful Guy ...

he he he I like the way you put it...

....but like your name says....one has to be thoughtful....before releasing video footage of air surveillance.....after all we don't want the pussies to find out how and when we do Aerial passes...and what are the telltales signs we are going after....best is to keep them guessing....so they succumb to hypertension if not for precision weapons....get my drift?


Cheers
Apino

Apino said...

B#1 s

Indeed SLAF is very busy these days....we will never know whether these are Migh 29s or the usual Mig 27/ Kfirs.....

Would like to see a pic of our Mig29s...

All topcats must be taking Imodium tablets to control their bodily movements.....must be difficult event to take a decent sh#t....

Ko ko ko me DiAssPora Web Chadiyas....silent night....holy night.....

Cheers All
Apino

Apino said...

TamilNut is silent about the latest SLAF drops....well how can they confirm this too after all....

Cheers
Apino

B#1 said...

Yes Apino,

Tamilnut is silent due to they are very busy with shootings. They are making a new visual with VP & Pottu for the song "Anna balan idhikada langa kokku rana wage awith..."

:p

Apino said...

Hi gareth40000

Glad you like it....

Our LRRP guys need to travel light and hope they have got a solution for the water problem.

If you have seen the Discovery series "Man Agains Wild" hosted by Bear Grylls (Ex-Special Air Service, a special forces unit of the British army), he comes with fantastic solutions for dehydration problems in survival situations...some are bit extreme...but others are down right simple and common sense.

There are some plant species found in the wild which are good source for water.

You may check the following links:

http://dsc.discovery.com/fansites/manvswild/about/about.html

http://www.beargrylls.com/gallery.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bear_Grylls

Check out the following links on plants that can be used in survival situations:

http://www.wilderness-survival.net/plants-1.php

http://www.equippedtosurvive.com/21-76/ch9.pdf

Another Good link about Water

http://www.lastalive.com/survival_guide/wilderness/water.htm

Hope this would be of use

Cheers
Apino
(Back packing is one my hobbies)

Apino said...

Bro B#1

He he well said.

Cheer
Apino

frackster said...

All this while v been telling their top brass is staying out of the fight and that they hide behind the civilians and the civilians are used as a shield so on and so forth.....

but recently we've heard that the civilians have moved from kili...so if the above was true are we now saying that their leaders are staying back in a deserted town with our LRRP in their backyard to get hit ...something is out of place here ...just a feeling

Apino said...

Adei Appa...whats happening...????

So much for the support from the cousins over the Pond....

>>>>>>AIADMK pulls out of CPI fast

G Babu Jayakumar | ENS
03 Oct 2008 03:32:00 AM IST

CHENNAI: The AIADMK today pulled out of the one-day fast organised by the CPI to protest India’s military support to Sri Lanka, triggering speculation of a possible BJP-AIADMK alliance for the next elections.

The boycott the AIADMK had committed its support to the statewide agitation and party general secretary J Jayalalithaa had nominated organising secretary S Muthusamy to represent her at the fast in front of the State Guest House in Chennai has also raised doubts over the AIADMK being part of the third front that is emerging in the state’s political horizon.<<<<<<<<

Full text:
http://www.expressbuzz.com/edition/story.aspx?artid=DWHvxSxbrQc=&Title=AIADMK+pulls+out+of+CPI+fast

frackster said...

of cos no point listening to tamilnut..... for info, only buildings and mud huts are targeted:) defencewire any thoughts !!!!!

Apino said...

No Way...Norway....
Looks like the corrupted Viking NGO got a good kick in the posterior....


>>>>>>Controversial Norwegian NGO not among
recipients of Japanese aid
Quit Kilinochchi leaving behind three excavators
by Shamindra Ferdinando

Close on the heels of the controversy surrounding the seizure by the LTTE of some vehicles belonging to the Norwegian People’s Aid (NPA) engaged in mine clearing operations in the terrorist-held area, the Government of Japan has dropped the INGO from the list of recipients of its assistance for the coming year.<<<<

Full text:
http://www.island.lk/2008/10/03/news1.html

Thoughtful Guy said...

apino.....hmmmm..what u say carries lot of weight and makes lot of sense...thanks..

perein said...

Apino-
Cont. bro... We are reading :)
Keep up the good work..
While you bat we will watch mate ....

Ruwani said...

Thanks Shay,
It was very useful (The Link)

kuttu said...

Thoughtful Guy said...

"hmmmmm...I hope the SLAF is not doing a "Paalu Geyi Walang Bindinava", by attacking already deserted buildings....

Well we hear that the "attack was based on real time surveillance" then why not the SLAF release the video of this surveillance... (eg- vehicles approaching, people getting in to the meeting, perimeter guards, and then the building getting blown up to pieces...?? "


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mboi said...

ltte top brass never mingle with civillians anyway. how often do u see even staged pics of pottu or the fat man with civillians? ltte has created an environment where suffering civillians have nothing to lose. that is how they get people for suicide missions. but that also means an unhappy man/women might strangle the crap out their sole rep given the chance. if you look at sat pics all high profile ltte locations strictly off limits to civillians, with barbed wire fences, surroundings heavily mined. so slaf has every reason to pound the crap out of all ltte buildings.

civilian shield is more useful for ltte to deter artillery attacks from sla and launch their own artillery from relative safety.

assassinrajive said...

greaaaaaaating, ting ting ting ting ting ting ting ting!

R U BO weeewaaa!

roth-thama saneeeependoo???

esseenam maruuuuuuuu!

raaaaaaaaa bomuuuuuuuuuuu??

how far to kichi now boys?
ammapaa! nadeesung wath maruwalu kollooo!
wali-mirikannee "cow-the"??

merviya pihitaai! sakwithi saranaai!

happy punnakku eating's! and piduru soup drinking!

Thoughtful Guy said...

Kuttu.......

well I have seen that clip many times since it was posted today morning..... but whatever ur intention was to post the link there in response to my question..it doesnt make sense to me (unlike apinos well balanced answer)...

All I see (in the link u had posted) is a building and a explosion and some smoke, and in the second one, a hut in a clearing of a forrest and a huge fire ball and a shock wave.... I dnt see any movement of people,vehicles before or after it.... (u can refer to this for the kind of videos I m talking about http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDZhP5yx7UY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=related&v=olzfcO2SE84 )

Dnt take me wrong machan..I m just asking a legitimate question (isn't i? )

BlackPanther said...

Thoughtful guy,

Yes. You have a point. LTTE must be expecting these places to be bombed. So it is likely that have abandoned them by now.

True Sri Lankan said...

SLAF pounds Nadeshan's office complex - Kilinochchi

True Sri Lankan said...

'Hunt-on' for LTTE leaders; Pottu Amman's Kilinochchi Headquarter raided

perein said...

This is very simiar to what DW article too...
Now the international media also started to see LTTE failures as well as possible no return....

SCENARIOS - Where does Sri Lanka's war go if rebel capital falls?

True Sri Lankan said...

Aerial visuals of Kilinochchi air strikes (Sep 26 - Oct 01)

True Sri Lankan said...

Controversial Norwegian NGO not among recipients of Japanese aid Quit Kilinochchi leaving behind three excavators

Gringo said...

[SLAF pounds Nadeshan's office complex - Kilinochchi

]

ADDIKUM...ADDIKUM...ADDIKUM...

Let the red hot Tamil terrorist blood... enrich the great lands of the North.

Hey... if any Kfir fighter pilot reading this... I wanna ask you a favour... next time when you release a 200lb bomb on to the meatheads of the Tamil terrorists... would you just say..
"This one is for Sandun K"?

Sandun, my good friend's kid who died in an LTTE bomb attack, would have been 18 today.

True Sri Lankan said...

Good move.
Circulars in Tamil 'must' - President

Riyaz said...

Greetings to all patriots,

Guys a humble request from all the patriots of mother lanka.

Please keep the national flag ready to put it in front of your houses, offices, restaurants, shops etc.. on the day our brave troops set their foot in KILI. Let us clebrate and show our support and gratitude by hoisting it infront of our own places and ignite the SRI LANKAN feeling all over Sri Lanka.

This is just a humble request from a SRI LANKAN.

AnnBurn said...

Hey guys, read this -Sri Lanka: Can the Tamil Tigers save the Tamils?
From Uthayam, Australia
This is available in The Island on the 3rd of October.
http://www.lankalinksystems.com/directory/frames/newsframe.htm
....."In a desperate bid the LTTE is turning to the diaspora. The diaspora, on the other hand, was banking on the LTTE to keep on winning militarily. Now they feel all is lost. They have nothing to show for the millions they poured into the Tamil war chest. Their money is useful still but only to construct more graveyards. The LTTE too has nowhere to go except into more graveyards. The tragedy facing the Tamils is that after fighting for 30-odd years we have nothing to show except graveyards. Our people have no proper food, clothing, shelter or water. Our people driven from place to place have no rest. No security. Nor the basic freedoms to live with dignity.".........:-( :-(

kapptipola said...

LTTE media's are screaming !

now who wanted war ! why are 'em bitching around ! LTTE deserve this from long time.

this is just a start we didnt give our maximum support yet..

True Sri Lankan said...

Army further strengthened by over 10,000 new recruits

gareth40000 said...

looks like shortly the odds we put for the LTTE are growing to 20:1 ha..

Gringo said...

[....."In a desperate bid the LTTE is turning to the diaspora. The diaspora, on the other hand, was banking on the LTTE to keep on winning militarily. Now they feel all is lost. They have nothing to show for the millions they poured into the Tamil war chest.]


Exactly.

However... if not for the difficult, bitter but downright WISE decisions (despite the insults, lies and fabricated accusations) of the present leadership AND the supreme sacrifices made and are being made by our brave, world-class troops...

...the vultures called Tamil Diaspora aka LTTE shareholders... would have been still boasting of the might of the LTTE...

Thanks and appreciation should also go to the Sri Lankans everywhere who went through and going through... immense hardship due to LTTE's phony cause...

But...more needs to be done... specifically last LTTE pig has to dragged out... and fittingly Eelamized.

True Sri Lankan said...

Riyaz..

Very good suggestion. All Sri Lankans should have a nationa flag ready to celebrate when we capture Kili. The whole of Sri Lanka will surely celebrate. But We should always remember it is not the final victory. We have some more to do. After Kili we have to turn to Mulaitivu. Lets Celebrate but surely lets not loosen the grip!! Hail Sri Lanka!!!!!!!!!!

Thoughtful Guy said...

hmmmmmm......blackpanther... thats what I was also thinking..... lets be logical and be thoughtfull.... if I were the LTTE and my enemy had total air superiority with supersonic-bombers... then will I live or command my loyal bunch of suicide bombers or have meetings with my fellow commanders in multistory buildings in the plain sight of the UAVs in plain daylight???.. NOT AT ALL ... I will mostly not try to go out my bunker, or if I have to, then go out at night , or if I have to go out in the day time, I will either meet the others in a well hidden place with lots of tree cover..not in a building or a suspicious looking hut in the middle of the jungle........
(just my thoughts by the way....)

frackster said...

Riyaz / True sri lankan,
though you have merit in wut ur saying about the flag ....don't start the party until the "FAT LADY sings"

frackster said...

Boys !!
look @ the 1st pic in the following link
http://www.puthinam.com/full.php?2e33WDCcb33lbD3e4d41Tn6cb0bdcFT24d4HIta300bmvSTUde22G4lX0cc3oe5Hde

supposedly it's a MIG 27 Diving to release the bombs.... if this is truly is in SL , thts some scary shit.. was this a photo taken by chance ???? IF NOT ...this raises questions as to what kind of time period the LTTE has to react to our bombers ( with regard to AA fire and possible SAM's)

True Sri Lankan said...

this white tiger Stinks from head to toe!
Vaz accused of code breach in court case

IntelAttack said...

frackster,
The pic of Mig is a big fat fake one.

Apino said...

Dear Cousin...Asse Asse Inna Rajive....

Well said mate...soon we are going to Send Mervin in his Porsche to Killi....

He will be appointed as the minister of rehabilitation....after all bunch of cows deserves a ass like that .....

As for Sakwithi...he he, he is busy instructing the Fat Posterior (AKA BighCat) how to jump ship...

Den you might say Untath Mervingema Pihitai....what do you think Bro?


Cheers Mate
Apino

Saman K. said...

Bro's,

This new videos taken by Beechcraft fitted with a newly accured camera sysytm.Now i know you would say, what the hell you are talking about.Beechcraft was destroyed in Anuradhapura attack.We had 2 Beechcraft.One was fitted with Raython survallance system.That was the one destroyed during Anuradhapura attack.Second Beechcraft was not fitted with survallance system/camera. Recently we accured more powerful camera and other systems and fitted on the other Beechcraft.

These videos are not taken from the UAVs.This a costly bird eye.

Apino said...

Dear Saman K,

Thanks for this clarification. So, what I was mumbling earlier is already in place.

If you can divulge, does it have thermal (IR) imaging capablity?

Cheers
Apino

Apino said...

For those, yet to see this map

http://www.cyberlk.com/defencemap/

Note: they should put few grapics to depicts the cats running like mad.

Cheers
Apino

gareth40000 said...

Dear Frakster

not to contradict you, the new ones are the Mig-29s, while yes they are fast, even the Mig-27s are so, the LTTE does have little time to react when it comes, but personally I did some research and feel that SU27's are better.

Saman K. said...

Apino bro,

I would say yes and with better night capability.

Fantastis isn,t it????? They will have red tears flowing.

cheers bros.

Saman K. said...

gareth,

SLAF got its Mig 29s.You are right SUs are better than Migs.Bigger and better Avionics.
But costly.When you compare a Land cruiser and a Lexus.

Hmmmmmm.Mig 29s are more than enough for us.

gareth40000 said...

Yeah your right

Anyway the SLAF bought the Mig29s's, which are capable of carrying out a dog fight aswell as have the capability of bombing land targets aswell, better than the existing once on performance, no just the wiki article was a bit goofy with the performance, but the tale on indian airforce is a success, more like it

Panhinda said...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7ZLzQw0Q_o

^
up and coming lankan actress.

Kfir during a bombing run
http://tinyurl.com/45agpt

Corey said...

How "first-class" Tamils promoted the genocide of the less-fortunate Tamils of Sri Lanka. :

http://www.srilankaguardian.org/2008/10/how-first-class-tamils-promoted.html

Apino said...

Dear Saman K,

Thanks once again.....fantastic indeed.

I hope SLAF guys are putting this in to good use.

For instance under thermal imaging any cooking fire, exhaust from generators should contrast against the cooler foliage cover during night time.

All depends on how powerful the optics being used. I have seen some systems which can even detect the heated barrel of a gun.

Systematic grid based scanning should eventually give away PuttyTatts burrows.....will need lot of patience.

Good hunting to our Bros @ SLAF

Cheers
Apino

Apino said...

Dear Panhinda,

Thanks for the link...when I see the devastation created....a saying from my youth comes to my mind.....

"Hena Gahapang...Ganang Balapan"

Cheers Bro
Apino

thambala said...

according to this both high caste Tamils and low caste Tamils want to subjugate the Sinhala people.

Apino said...

Panhinda,

Nice youtube link too....a hand full isn't she? Amara Karan....got the "Perumal Dial"

>>>>>Karan was born in London, England to Sri Lankan Tamil parents who had emigrated to England from Zambia two years before she was born. She was born and grew up in Wimbledon, a suburb in the southwestern part of London, and attended Wimbledon High School.[5] Her original surname was Karunakaran, but she shortened it to Karan as she believes the latter name suits her as an actress.[6]<<<<<

Cheers
Apino

Apino said...

Here's to the DiAssPora Cousins who makes it a habit to drop in to this forum....

Tell your Heroes to be ready after taking a good bath, put some talcum powder and mottu ....aaah and tell them to ware a Diaper too....

(Hondata Naala, powderr tikak dalaa, mottuwak dekak ehema thiyala .....dipurrr ekak andala)

COZ our Boys are going to come early tomorrow morning.....BOOM BOOM BOOOOOM......

Theriya??

Cheers All
Gude Good Night
Apino

Apino Dannachess said...

Here goes nothing....just for fun guys

http://apinodannachess.blogspot.com/

Srilankan said...

Thoughtful Guy,
lets finish off the LTTE militaryly at least and we will think about this later.I know exactly what you mean..exactly what you mean..If you dont believe me let me put it this way i know fellows(sinhalese)in colombo who have been making millions..due to an "education" monopoly...For some people in colombo.this war never exists..
Apino,
Let us finish this shitty war first bro..we will take it from there..
Then we can concentrate on education in style for ALL our peoples in SLanka.Right now for those of you who live overseas..if you meet our students overseas.. it may be an idea to help them as best as you can in order to guide them towards better results and with other problems since coming overseas to study is a completely different "kettle of fish".We are not doing this for gratitude or to get into their underwear..god willing they will remember us sometime in their lives hopefully.We have to look at the positive side of things..and not go back to the "style" of 1948.

The Punisher said...

Hey Apino

I think we Nuked them out of here Buddy! he he

Moshe Dyan said...

thoughtful guy,

good point; was thinking along same lines.

i used to frequently use that phrase too!

but there is a difference in this instance. as we discussed b4, LTTE has its non-military infrastructure in and around kili. these MUST be made unusable. it also has a "fear-factor" to chase away tigers away from kili. chase-away is not a good strategy (only harvesting works) but SLA has a target to capture.

SLAF air raids also clearly show a SLIGHT deviation from the targets when the bombs hit. thereafter repeated attacks to BLAST the targets were NOT MADE. TN's photos DON'T show complete destruction of some targets; instead they simply look unusable.

the case of a tiger warehouse/storage is different. that may have damaged COMPLETELY and that is how it should be.

Moshe Dyan said...

riyaz,

good suggestion. there is NO reason why anybody should get offended.

Panhinda said...

Dear Apino,

/*
a saying from my youth comes to my mind.....

"Hena Gahapang...Ganang Balapan"
*/

so does "kana palenna gahanawa" which my parents used to say often. :)

hemantha said...

"On Thursday, the Air Force bombed the LTTE Headquarters in Kilinochchi. Whether any LTTE leaders perished in that raid, one may not know. The significance of that attack, in our book, is more political than military."
Editorial-The Island

click here

History said...

I got to know that Praba is talking to some computer genius, you know why?? he is looking for a reset button, to reset everything and start over..

Moshe Dyan said...

hemantha,

thanks for the link. that's my point. PLUS the editorial contains some INTERSTING stuff about "national politics" as well.

Sam Perera said...

Apino,

That was a cool picture. Man, you made my day. Can you help me to identify the following names:

1)Sampa
2)Damitha
3)Gorilla
4)Jane

By the way, Mano is Mano G?

True Sri Lankan said...

Govt. not worried about Chennai demos

Ninja said...

Apino

Cool. Keep them coming.

Rana said...

Hi Folks,

SLAF attacke are based on "real time ground info", let us say accracy of the info is around 30% and engaging the intended target accurately is 70% with obtaining dsirable results is around 28%.

Therefore successful ratio is arount 1:3 or 4. We may have some good results by now. "Silence of the lambs" in Canada may be telling us something.

$1000 question is Why FF is silent? or who SLAF got this time? anticipation is killing me here.

True Sri Lankan said...

“Piercing Tiger earth bund, an achievement”

True Sri Lankan said...

Blaming Prabakaran but continuing a handfuls quest for an illusive Eelam

True Sri Lankan said...

Sri Lanka Navy’s RABS/SBS Concept: An Operational and Tactical Edge over Sea Tigers

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