Sunday, December 7, 2008

Progress in all areas

Around 25 LTTE cadres were killed when a team of about 100 cadres launched a counter attack at Adampan last morning. 2 soldiers were also killed in the fighting. The attack was anticipated following intelligence warnings (please see last report).

Small teams of soldiers are usually positioned ahead of the Army's existing FDL and artillery, including MBRL units are kept on standby at night in case of an enemy counter attack. Artillery crews and small groups of soldiers change patrols in the evening and sometimes again in the early morning and fresh teams are deployed in their place. Therefore no special preparations were necessary to counter the LTTE counter attack, which came shortly after 2.30am yesterday.

According to intelligence reports a group of 300 cadres were being trained by the LTTE in this area for the counter attack. Army believes the attack early last morning maybe the first wave of such attackers and that a much larger attack can be anticipated in the days to come. The Tiger cadres were spotted early and as artillery and MBRL strikes opened up, they made a hasty retreat dragging their dead and wounded and sometimes leaving behind weapons.

An air strike was made at the newly constructed LTTE earth bund that spans from Paranthan to north Oddusudan. Monitored communication indicated that a part of the bund, including several LTTE bunkers were hit and that a few cadres either manning or building the bund at the time may have been killed in the strikes.

Meanwhile SLA is preparing for another push at Muhamalai to break into the 2nd defence line of the LTTE. Paths along the no-man's-land ahead of the newly captured areas are being cleared by Army engineers to be used by specialized infantry units for the initial softening-up operations.

Heavy fighting was reported from Olumadu on Friday as Task Force 3 clashed with the LTTE in that area. SLA recovered 11 bodies including 2 decomposed ones. 9 bodies were handed over to the ICRC yesterday. Army believes it may have killed 20 Tigers in this fight which occurred shortly after TF3 surrounded an LTTE bunkerline.

The Army is now in full control of the A9 from Vavuniya (Kandy-Jaffna), all the way upto Kokavil. The checkpoint at Omanthai has been brought virtually to the outskirts of Kilinochchi. From the Army's perspective, these achievements, once thought impossible, are historic and unprecedented.

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hemantha said...

"From the Army's perspective, these achievements, once thought impossible, are historic and unprecedented."

Yes. In case of A-9, within few weeks we achieved more than whatever the Jayasikuru op was able to achieve in three years.

Unknown said...

There’s no doubt that gains made by SLDF in recent times are historic. LTTE has never been beaten this badly.

DW, thanks for the update. Have you seen my questions from previous post?

Puran Appu said...

DW,

Thank you for the update.

DrJones said...

Thanks for the update guys.
Jayawewa!

Puran Appu said...

Counter attacks are not possible for the LTTE, with MBRLs'.

Unknown said...

Great strategy and execution by SF . Seems to me we have aim on every strategic objective at the same time . We can pick and choose what we wont first . there is no way they can defend everything .

Anonymous said...

Thanks for the update.

DW, what do you say about east?

Rana said...

rather a quick progress report from
DW,

- surprice nevertheless Thanks buddy

We are not in a hurry to take KILI, Paranthan and Oddusuddan is more important to me strategically.

DW, Can you please tell me why 58 is so slow on B69, last time they tackled earth bund from 03 places?

I thought they will go to Pranathan by now!!!

Nisal said...

Mahen, where is you blog? I'm waiting for it.

Rana said...

Nisal,

Mahen is waiting for recapture of Nachchikudha to report first in his blog.

You know the rest!!

Rana said...

LTTP rejected Lord,

LTTP fighting strictly according to Geneoa convention of military engagemnets!!!

1. Law 1, wear proper uniform before taking arms.

2. Under 18 cannot be conscripted to platoons.

3. Deliberate killing of POWs prohibitted.

4. Deliberate killing of unarmed civilians prohibitted.

5. Using civilians forcefully as cannon fodders prohibitted.

That is enough, now which one they abide - none!

That is why whole world is waiting till GOSL wipe this menace completely out.

No body, I repeat Nobody will raise a finger now! even India and Norwey had enough with "KAPPAN VESAPILLE PUKEHARAN"!

You also PUKE LORD bugger off now!

PHANTOM-X said...

Ohoma yan...!!! Thawa tikai....!!!
Thanks 4 da update DW...!

Hemantha said...

within few weeks we achieved more than whatever the Jayasikuru op was able to achieve in three years.

yep..u r correct..!
Those days our main focus was to open a supply route to Jaffna. It was not to Destroy da LTTE. our goals are different this time around. Now days we have a battle hardened army, we have new equipment ( eg. MBRL's : IT is very effective against Wave type attacks ). our morale is high..! most important thing is the leadership (both Military and political).

Unknown said...

DW ..

Heard many are surrendering . Do you know what will be done to rehabilitate these buggers . you dont want them creating an insurgency later

Rana said...

Ali, bro,

From where you heard many are surrenderin? mate.

Unknown said...

Indian Foreign Minister is due in Sri Lanka to discuss the Mumbai attack and how Sri Lanka can support to improve relationships with Pakistan (as advised by Secretary of State USA), not to put any other pressure on Sri Lanka. Sri Lnaka is in a very strong position in South Asia (in terms of managing relationships with neighbours)

PHANTOM-X said...

Guys...

Did u see/read recent statement made by Mongal Samaweeran and UNP ( P stands for ponnayas ). Those days when we were attacking Mavil Aru and later Thoppigala the two jokers Mongal Samaweeran and Sreepathy said our strategy was wrong and we should attacked kili first...! Now when we are attacking kili this "Kuhaka Ponnaya' goes around slinging mud at Armed Forces, Sarath Fonseka and Gota.
the same thing goes with the UNP. When we were attacking Mavil Aru they said NOT to attack, LTTE is too powerful, they will kill u all ...and when it came to Thoppigala Ranil p said Thoppigala is a thick jungle and it's useless capturing a jungle...! all "Kuhaka katha'...!
now what these ponnayas are saying...Lakshman kariella says we should talk immediately...lakshman Senevirathna says we should continue and destroy the LTTE and he goes on to say this is the official stance of UNP. (both says political solution should be the end answer ) both contradictory statements..! Ranil is yet to officially publicize his stance.

me wage kaalen kaaletta kuhaka katha kiya kiya yana munta hena wadinna oone...!!!

sorry for da political comments...

Unknown said...

Rana ..

From a friend in the forces mate .. Supposedly they are coming in SLTB buses . . May just be the lucky few who dont wanna be mahaveers

Lalith Kuruwita said...

Hi

Are those 25 really hardcore cadre or civilian just trained and used in the front? So that LTTP can save hardcore carder.

Now LTTP can change the cloths of the bodies and show the world that human are killed by cluster bombs.

Ha ha

Lalith Kuruwita said...

Hi

As I mentioned before, VP has asked his supporters in Canada & Europe to collect money to buy arms.

So So So LTTE is running out arms. So if we continue to attack, it would be too long to get VP.

Has they finished all those 8 ships of arms imported during RW's piece talk?

Ra said...

"many are surrendering"

බොරු කටකතා පතුරවන්න එපා!

MOD would give max publicity if this happens.

Kagusthan Ariaratnam said...
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Kagusthan Ariaratnam said...

A close monitoring of the pro-LTTE websites and forums indicate that the LTTE is indeed preparing for a “do or die” final battle just like they did during Operation Jeyasikuru in 1998-1999 periods. But at that time around the LTTE was one step ahead of security forces in planning, preparing and executing whereas now the situation is the other way around, even though the LTTE was preparing for war during peace. The pro-LTTE “Puthinam” Tamil website today reported that the LTTE’s political commissioner P.Nadesan called on the K’Nochi district school teachers and principals for help them to motivate and recruit students to join the LTTE as Nadesan declared the LTTE’s new policy that at least one cadre from each family living in Wanni.

According to my assessment, the LTTE avoids confrontations with the military to minimize their casualties as they very well aware of the Sun Tzu’s lessons that “When enemy wants you to fight don’t fight and do fight when enemy unexpected you to fight”.
Therefore the security forces must always be vigilant and expect the unexpected and continuously engage the enemy and must not to give them time to plan, prepare and execute.

Also there are credible reports hinting that the LTTE is in shortage of weapons and ammunitions, as their entire source of supplies are eliminated including the ones from ocean going vessels and the Indian fishermen’s supply chain that is since the fall of Pooneryn. Hence the only alternate way of getting the weapons and ammunitions is that “capturing it from the security forces itself” by infiltrating the FDLs and launching “major surprise raids” in the vast jungle areas of the Wanni terrain which is very well known to LTTE but not to the security forces.

In order to avoid this very same old tactics of LTTE the security forces should establish “zig-zag military observation posts”(OPs) between 1Km-2Km distance where there is a platoon to a company of troops will be guarding with well fortified consolidations, instead of building up huge and long FDLs. This way when LTTE try to infiltrate they will be got caught in between the zig-zag out posts. It was the very same tactics General Janaka Perera used during Operation Riviresa in 1995 to capture Jaffna peninsula and it worked.

bagg said...

test

bagg said...

Are we to accept the visit by Indian Prime Minister, (if there is going to be one) without any resistance…..?

At least people should do some protesting and let him/India feel the pressure while GOSL handles his visit diplomatically.

Ra said...

Karunanidhi after meeting PM.

Ra said...

bagg,

මොකක් ද සීන් එක?

සිසිර කුමාර said...

These cluster bombs seem to hurt LTTP a lot. We should use them more frequently.

Lets give these lttp mfr bastards a hard time!

Saman said...

I am back. Few extra clips.

http://www.rupavahini.lk/ondemand/defence_ondemand.php

Lalith Kuruwita said...

Hi

Read about new Task force below.

Can you guess where are they going to be employed?

"New attack force
Meanwhile Deputy Commander of 59 Division Col. Nishantha Wanniarachchi has been appointed to command the new fighting unit designated Task Force 1V scheduled to enter battle in Wanni soon. Military Secretary Maj. Gen. Deepal Alwis issued orders on Monday under his signature, also appointing Lt. Col. Priyantha Wijegunawardena as the Colonel General Staff of this force. Similarly two Brigades coming under this Force 64-1 and 64-2 were placed under the command of Lt. Col. Jayampathy Bandara and Lt. Col. Randula Hathnagoda."

Saman said...

bagg, you mean India n Foreign Minister, I guess.

Let them come and go. We are well in control. Such political bullshit does not help the situation. Last thing we want is anti Indian hooligans provoked by RW and bloody Mongal.

Let us fight neat and clean. Nothing India or any one can do now. Only thing is to ensure no useless political moves that MR has to waste hi resources and time.

WE WILL DO THIS. NO POLITICAL BULL CRAP.

Colomblogs said...

When you analyze the pictures of liberated areas From Madhu to Puliyankulam, you can't see any new development (new school, new roads, etc..)done by LTTE for tamil people. Only excpetion is construction of massive Cemetries (thanks to the SLA).

Even with a war, all the development including schools, food and medicine were provied by SL governments.

LTTE's contrbution to Tamil community is just mass buriel grounds.

It is shame on you Mahen, Peter and Bahirav...who still getting feed from SL and trying to destroy the same. Even Dogs have much generousity than these Dispora bastards.

More cluster bombs please..

Lalith Kuruwita said...

Suicide bomber is cought
http://defencecolumn.blogspot.com/2008/12/terror-plots-targeting-colombo.html

Lalith Kuruwita said...

We must organise some protests against Munkadji to show all killing by LTTE.

1 Rajeev Gandhi/ Premadasa
2 All other tamil political leaders

These should be organised wherever how goes including Mubai terror attack. Then he will shut up and leave.

Moshe Dyan said...

DW,

thanks for the update.

"Meanwhile SLA is preparing for another push at Muhamalai to break into the 2nd defence line of the LTTE."

if it another large scale push, it is again suicidal without neutralising LTTE positions by air or by other means.

the real battle in this sector takes place 14km - 25km away from each others' fixed positions. it is futile to commit a large troop force for the intermidiary land area without the above.

SLA cannot have permanant positions as long as tiger long range arti/motar can reach them.

MoD is already aware of it and i very much doubt a push from muhamalai until the underlying matters are resolved.

Moshe Dyan said...

"full control of the A9 from Vavuniya, all the way upto Kokavil"

fantastic.

something i was complaining about for a LONG time!

well done.

bagg said...

Saman,

YES. YES. I meant the Indian Foreign Minister...

I agree with you.. I also don’t want to stop anything that is going on right now.. Not by any means..

The thing is there is so much pressure on Indian politicians to stop terrorism in India by their own people.
Yet they come here (dressed) to take advantage from the situation to fulfill their depraved political dreams....
I want those politicos who coming here to feel the same.. To feel they are in Bombay.. pressurized from all ends.. That’s all....

Peter said...

One mile from Killinochchi?

Ananda-USA said...

Indians are complaining about Pakistani accusations of discrimination against of Muslims in India.

It seems as if the pot is calling the kettle black!

An unqualified jihadi victory in Mumbai By Swapan Dasgupta, ExpressBuzz.com,TamilNadu,07 Dec 2008

Comment posted by Ananda-USA:

A "Moslem homeland" was created when the British Raj was partitioned in 1947 into India and Pakistan contrary to the wisdom of Mahatma Gandhi. Acceptance of that solution by both India and Pakistan could have saved millions of lives, untold treasure, and uplifted their peoples. To my Sri Lankan eyes, one part of this article modified by substitution to read "Egged on by the global fraternity of deranged liberalism, India has concluded that the discrimination and persecution of the Tamil minority lie at the heart of Sri Lanka’s terrorist problem. The thread that binds the conspiracy theorists, the Eelamists and the Sri Lanka-watchers who have been prolific in shedding tears for the Sri Lankan Tamil in the op-ed pages of western publications is the belief that Sri Lanka had it coming" reflects poetic justice! It seems India is now hoisted on its own petard!

Lalith Kuruwita said...

Peter,

Yes it is one mile(1.6 KM - we do not use mile because it is used my old generation like you)from the Metro Killi.

DO you know what metro is?

obama said...

""Meanwhile SLA is preparing for another push at Muhamalai to break into the 2nd defence line of the LTTE."

Moshe,
I dont think they will not announce of a push if they are actually going to do it. Lets wait and see. One we have noticed with the present satrtegy is army is not foolish anymore like in the days of Daluwatta ponnaya.

Moshe Dyan said...

single,

we will see an increase in SLAF attack efficiency. no because of the resources have increased but bcos of better planning and the use of more productive explosives!!!

saman,

mate, i will answer your concerns. doing some work against the tiger lobby in ****.

Moshe Dyan said...

obama,

yes mate, that's what i said.

daluwatte had his shortcomings (more i guess). he also had SOME strengths. anyway he is supportive of the present campaign and that must be appreaciated.

simon said...

'still sl army couldn't find the tamil ealem airforce n sea tigers??? dose any1 know the reason?

Ananda-USA said...

Moshe, Rana,

Don't even ask why the SLA is not capturing Kilinochchi/Paranthan quickly; the answer to that question will compromise SLA strategy.

Nisal said...

'They went, saw and returned'

What a sad story from Tamilnut!

http://tinyurl.com/5hh538

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Unknown said...

Defencewire!

according to srilankan medeia,

Kokkavil has been captured by SLA twice in two months time. was there any reported news about the same place retaken by the LTTE recently?

or is this another bluff by the SLA spokesperson?

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Moshe Dyan said...

ananda-usa,

mate, i never wanted SLDFs to capture kili soon.

what i wanted was the exact opposite!!

harvest as many tigers as possible is my strategy. that way it will automatically leave kili, etc. for SLA to take!

Ananda-USA said...

Moshe,

Sorry...I misunderstood!

Moshe Dyan said...

simon,

SLDFs have found MANY sea tiger bases and most them have been destroyed already!!

where were you??

as re: TAF...TAF planes although create much pandamonium, causes NO STRATEGIC or MILITARY threat to SL that can change the outcome/cause of the war!!

Rana said...

Ananda-USA,

Mate, I am not interested in Kili at all, Paranthan ? yes, EP? yes,

My main concern is to get the leadership as soon as possible.

In chess if you checkmate king, game over.

This war is planned, financed and executed by one person Vesapille Pukeharan, kill him war is over.

from the very begining I said SLDF must try and kill vesapille. Only LRRP and SLAF can do it.

If we get that MF, Pottu cannot hold other senior cadres much longer, infights inevitable and collapse imminent.

That is my position.

However, in the mean time aiming to bag Paranthan and Oddusuddan is the best. Kili is good for harvesting safely, I mean no sacrifice.

Muhamalei and Kilali, we must use new brains to develop a strategy, present commander cannot do it correctly, unfortunately gen.SF is adament on Gen.Chandrasiri and SF is wrong!

Ananda-USA said...

The remaining sheltered ports for use by the larger sea tiger vessels seem to be the Mullaitivu lagoon (large), Chalai (very small) further up the coast from Mullaitivu, and Chundikulam (large capacity because there is a channel here connected to the Jaffna lagoon) further north from Chalai.

It would be difficult to move heavy vessels overland, but the smaller boats with outboard motors can be dragged up the beach anywhere along this coast and hidden under trees or buried in the sand. So, smaller boats can be launched and loaded from anywhere along the coast.

I have a feeling that when Mullaitivu is captured, most of the boats, large and small, would be sunk in shallow water for later retrieval, and the engines removed and buried underground.

Tamil Nadu police have found many abandoned boats, all without the engines. Some engines have been found buried in sand dunes.

Ananda-USA said...

Rana,

OK...I understand you. But getting VP is like hunting a needle in a haystack, although the haystack is getting smaller...I pray it can be done, with the assistance of intelligence assets.

I would love to tell you what I think the SLA is going to do next, but I have sent that idea onto MOD & SLA and cannot talk about it in public to anybody. At least the brainy folks in MOD/SLA may have a good laugh from it, and a warm feeling from knowing that I care!

Ananda-USA said...

Wealthy Bangladeshi builds a new Taj Mahal

Saman said...

Bagg,

/The thing is there is so much pressure on Indian politicians to stop terrorism in India by their own people.
Yet they come here (dressed) to take advantage from the situation to fulfill their depraved political dreams..../

I share your frustration too. But India (not TN) has clearly spoken when TN monkeys met MMS. That is enough. He has to send the foreign minister to save face. That is politics. If you read between lines message is clear. NO INTERVENTION IN SHORT RUN.

This brings a remotely possible risk. TN separatists could organise some idiots to attempt reinforcements, arms etc., openly. That woukd be a sticky point but India is stong enough to take that under control.

I am comfortable "politics" has no role to play. It is now purely a military matter until Vesapulle and LTTE is brought to knees.

Lalith Kuruwita said...

Can anybody guess where TF4 be deployed?

Lalith Kuruwita said...

"No room for Prabhakaran to flee"

Read below

http://www.sundayobserver.lk/2008/12/07/oostory.asp?sid=20081206_05&imid=Navycommander.jpg&dt=[December%2006%202008]

Lalith Kuruwita said...

http://www.sundayobserver.lk/2008/12/07/oostory.asp?sid=20081206_05&imid=Navycommander.jpg&dt=[December%2006%202008

Sujeewa Kokawala said...

Sorry to take up a topic out of context.

Mervyn Perera has passed away.

Sad moment. A great man. I don't think he sang the much a common singer of today sings in an year, but he's virtually immortal.

koly said...

Thanks, ananda-usa.

Kilinochchi Map,

here

onecountry said...

Navy was going to search the shallow waters in west coast sea tigers bases to check for sunken tiger boats. But, never heard anything since. We must search these areas using sonar or something. Otherwise LTTE will recover them and use when it is totally unexpected.

wijayapala said...

Sujeewa,

"- way too much mentioning of 1983"

That is because there is "way too much mentioning" of how everything is the fault of the Tamils. The Mushes and Dumb-Arses believe that there was a grand 2000-year Tamil conspiracy to undermine SL and the Sinhalese, with the involvement of the Cholas, Ponnambalam Arunachalam & Ramanathan, GG Ponnambalam all the way to our current Prabakaran.

Since nobody else is correcting their half-assed understanding of how this war started, I have to take the job.

"- never talks about the current SLDF operations which is the key for our presence here."

There isn't much point talking about current tactical military operations given that no one here has access to information coming from the front line, or from HQ for that matter. In any case the SL military is doing well and I don't see why we need to give advice from our expatriate armchair perspective.

You haven't been here long enough and haven't seen my responses to Peter, Shart and others why the LTTE is not doing well. If you want to see one of my recent responses to Peter in a different blog, click here. (interesting that none of the "patriots" want to take on Peter there)

I read DN, DW, and Long Ranger because they actually know what they're talking about, and I tend to ignore the patriotic defense discussions here that are not based on any sort of professional knowledge of military affairs.
Long Ranger couldn't even understand anything that Mushe had written in his blog recently about the use of artillery.

I would prefer to talk about more important and long-term things, such as what will we do after the LTTE is defeated?

"- Ppl accuse him for double playing with a handle which pretended as pro-tiger [echolalia]."

That is pretty funny given that I was debating with Echolalia at that time. I only use one handle here and elsewhere and that is my name. People accuse me of using multiple handles only when they're too stupid to counter what I say.

Gringo said...

[(December 07, Colombo, Sri Lanka Guardian) He is both a historical figure and a legend—and it is sometimes difficult to separate the two. For the first time in the history of this country we have an efficient, meticulous, brilliant Secretary of Defence. As Sri Lankans we should be proud of this Patriot.
]


... Thank goodness the president had the sense to appoint his brother for the position..., which avoided the usually default, unavoidable, downright cheap 'ego' problems some folks have, when doing the supreme duty for the country.

Imagine Gotabhaya or a true patriot doing the same job with Ranil as the preseident!
D I S A S T E R!

he... he... he...

LTTE coolies are so mad at this brilliant move by the president... evidenced by their mud-slinging at our leaders.

7/11?

he he he.

Kill more.... achieve more!

Doesn't this formula work like magic, making its reverberations felt all the way in Toiletnadu?

Raves said...

Wijayapala,

Your take on historical facts on our war never fails to impress me. Keep it up. I once read in David Blacker's blog as well that he too gave up pn discussing military stuff on DW or DN for one simple reason. The resident 'experts' know MORE!!

I mean its quite amusing what Moshe has written in SF3. The best it this

"the fact that SLA FDLs are ABOUT 14km from the mainland is no accident"

????? Anyone know what Moshe means by this?

wijayapala said...

Mayilravana,

"After Prabha and gang had been apprehended, the IGP was summoned by JRJ. An angry Amirthralingam was there at the Presidential Residence. The IGP was humiliated by JRJ and ordered to release the gang. Being a man with a spine the IGP refused and resigned instead. The rest is history. (I don't know if this is widely known, but my family is very close to a family member of the former IGP)."

I don't think that story is true. Prabakaran was never apprehended by the police and never saw the inside of a SL jail. He was in India for most of the 1980s and had been caught by the TN police in 1982 after a shootout in Madras. JR sent IGP Rudra Rajasingham to India to get Thalaivar, but the Indians refused to extradite him.

"Absolutely agree that MOD(aya) must enter the arena of commercial investments."

This should be limited so that we don't get the Pakistan "milbus" situation.

Asithri said...

Wesaballa (Translated: Whore dog)

Said, still harping on 1983 as the cause of all our current woes:

[The Mushes and Dumb-Arses believe that there was a grand 2000-year Tamil conspiracy to undermine SL and the Sinhalese, with the involvement of the Cholas, Ponnambalam Arunachalam & Ramanathan, GG Ponnambalam all the way to our current Prabakaran. Since nobody else is correcting their half-assed understanding of how this war started, I have to take the job.]

Typical of an undercover Tamil racist whore-bitch!

Here is a brief excerpt from writings by Prof. Nalin de Silva that amply clarifies that Tamil racism and the grand design for a “Tamil homeland” very well pre-existed even 1956 (the period of much maligned “Sinhela Language” act), leave along 1983!:

[(February 01, Colombo, Sri Lanka Guardian)

The first phase of Tamil racism baptised by the British, commenced in 1833 with the appointment of one representative each to represent the Sinhalas, Tamils and Burghers. With that the British equated more than two thousand three hundred years of Sinhala history with a continuous history of Tamils in Sri Lanka that did not extend for more than two hundred years. They also equated more than seventy five percent of the population of Sinhala people with less than ten percent of Tamils.

They had no regard for the unique culture that the Sinhalas had created in this country over a period of more than two thousand three hundred years and as far as they were concerned, that culture did not have a weightage more than that was given to Tamil culture that was nothing but a continuation of Tamil culture in the Malabar coast from where the Dutch imported Tamils for their tobacco cultivation. The first phase of Tamil racism in Sri Lanka lasted till about 1947. The Tamil leadership was Tamil Hindu Vellala and they tried to manipulate at that centre (Legislative Assembly until 1931 and then the State Council) and have political power over the entire country. The Tamil racist leadership wanted more representation for them than for the Sinhalas at the centre and in this they were assisted by the British.

Three infamous incidents out of many during this period were the demanding of a Tamil representative for the western province by Mr. Ponnambalam Arunachalam and the others in 1917, the opposition to universal franchise by Mr. Ponnambalam Ramanathan and the others around 1929, and the demanding of fifty fifty representation by Mr. GG Ponnambalam in the forties. Universal franchise was opposed by Tamil racist leadership as it would have given more representation to the Sinhala people in the state council.

During this period the Tamil racists coined the concept of a “Tamil Nation” with a history of more than three thousand years in Sri Lanka. In this exercise as well, they were assisted by the British and were influenced by the mythical history as given in Yalpanam Vaipava Malai written by a Tamil poet who had been "commissioned" by the Dutch. While the Tamil Hindu Vellala leadership in Colombo was fighting against the Sinhalas to deprive Sinhalathva its rightful place in the country, in Jaffna the Vellalas maintained the repressive regime against the less privileged casts.]

Need I say more?

Again nice try Wesaballa (i.e. this time to exonerate the early Tamil racist bitches like GG Ponna, Chelva, etc.) …go utter your cover-up story to a tree!

LMSSAO!!!

OaO Asithri

p.s. I have posted this excerpt on an earlier occasion too…and I will post it again for another trillion times if need be, until I castrate this undercover Tamil racist bitch for good, a racist bitch hiding under “Wijayapla” …LMSSAO!!!

Asithri said...

Of course this undercover Tamil racist Wesaballa (whore-dog) will discredit Prof. Nalin De Silva as he has done previously...but what we should take note of is that he conveniently ignores the racist behaviors of his Jaffna forefathers GG Ponna, Chelva, etc.

The behaviors of these early Tamil racist motherfuckers are to be found as common knowledge, documented facts, for anyone who has an interest in researching the British Colonial administration of Sri Lanka (then Ceylon).

OaO Asithri

velluprabhakaran said...

it seems that the sla strategy is to destabilise all areas held by the november 27 fools little by little exterminating them systematically. soon the november 27 fools will be cornered into defending about 3 or 4 vital areas (killi, mullativu, elephant pass etc)with large number of fools. then the sla will cut each other off & dominate in between. cornered into a few locations with all avenues & communications of the november 27 fools cut off (including the sea) the fun will begin.

Asithri said...

Single

[More cluster bombs please…]

Bungu

[These cluster bombs seem to hurt LTTP a lot. We should use them more frequently.
Lets give these lttp mfr bastards a hard time!]

Sweet…Ela kiri…!!!

LMSSAO!!!

OaO Asithri

velluprabhakaran said...

April 1 st = April Fool's Day.
November 27th = Tamil fools day.
WTM = world Toilet Modayas.
TRO  = Tamil Rear Opened.

HOOOOOOOOO ha ha ha!

Sam Perera said...
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Asithri said...

Lalith
[Has they finished all those 8 ships of arms imported during RW's piece talk?]

Yes, in particular they are almost finished with the tons and tons of mortar/arty shells the were allowed to bring in during RW Piece-talks…except I hear the LTTE is keeping one 80mm mortar shell to ram up Ranil’s arse as a thank-you gesture!

:)) :)) :))

OaO Asithri

Asithri said...

Gringo

[Gringo

Imagine Gotabhaya or a true patriot doing the same job with Ranil as the preseident! D I S A S T E R!]

Gem of the day!

:)) :)) :))

OaO Asithri

Asithri said...

Sam (to Wesaballa):

[Spare us your grandiosity. Nobody here cares a tiny rats ass about it. You sound more like failed socialist ideologue like Wickramabahu Karunarathne.
Your grandiosity, as I mentioned earlier, takes you nowhere other than the land of fake pundits.]

Wait! More “Gem of the Day” are being found!

:)) :)) :))

Kudos to you mate!

OaO Asithri

Asithri said...

Constantin Demiris said...
To Wijayapala,

[Your take on historical facts on our war never fails to impress me. Keep it up.]

“historical facts”...? Really?

Tamil racist arsehole, go back to school and learn the meaning of the word “history” before using “historical facts” which is too much of a heavy term for your pea-brain!

LMSSAO!!!

OaO Asithri

Asithri said...

[Constantin Demiris]

Wow! Sounds like another Portuguese rapist/arsonist out to devour our Motherlanka!

Whore-bitch…do you want me to tell you what my ancestors used to do to captured Portuguese “soldadts” in our proud down-south Ruhuney? I bet not!

LMSSAO!!!

OaO Asithri

wijayapala said...

CD,

Thanks for the compliments but beware of Dumb-Arses who might try to claim we're the same blogger!

There's something you said on sf-3 which sums up how I feel about the keyboard warriors:

Basically you are ridiculing everyone at the very top of our defence without knowing two hoots.

Men with 30 years or more experience taking lessons from a keyboard warrior? Wow indeed!


(I liked Mushe's response as well- the type I would expect from a keyboard warrior)

Asithri said...

OK, "Earth Bund Development" donation collectors are at the door...got to pick up my baseball bat and go greet them...

Catch you patriots later...

Don't let these "thamileelamist" racist whore-dogs hoodwink you...we have come this far and "we shall overcome" this vile racism that has brought untold misery to our Motherlanka!

Have a good day/night...

OaO Asithri

Sam Perera said...

wijayapala,

"I would prefer to talk about more important and long-term things, such as what will we do after the LTTE is defeated?"

Spare us your grandiosity. Nobody here cares a tiny rat’s ass about it. You sound more like the failed socialist ideologue Wickramabahu Karunarathne who has done virtually nothing to our homeland. I mean, not even single word of inspiration for Sri Lankans, let alone heroic defenders of our freedom.

Most certainly, you have the skill to manipulate this blog in non-defence related topics. One time you pretend to be an expert of Brahmi scripts, Sinhala-Prakrit and Tamil. Then you tried to present your own distorted version of history. Neither the DefenceWire nor DefenceNet is meant for discussion of history and politics, even though we get carried away every once in a while. However, if you prefer your own discussions of politics, history, and archeology, please go ahead implementing your own blog. I am sure that you can shine there among well known experts of history and archeology.

Your grandiosity, as I mentioned earlier, takes you nowhere other than to the land of fake pundits. As we all know, other than a few bloggers, most of us are SL defence enthusiasts of various walks. Therefore, your attempts to be a pundit here is laughable, to say the least. Please don't be another blog parasite who tries to change the focus of these blogs and start your own blog. Please feel free to ask for help if you don’t know how to setup your own blog.

wijayapala said...

Dear Sam Perera,

"Wow! Sounds like another Portuguese rapist/arsonist out to devour our Motherlanka!

Whore-bitch…do you want me to tell you what my ancestors used to do to captured Portuguese “soldadts” in our proud down-south Ruhuney? I bet not!


Yes, I can see that my posts don't hold a candle to the above thought-provoking analysis of your fellow "defense enthusiast." Can you answer the burning question what Dumb-Arse's ancestors did to your ancestors?

Raves said...

Asithri,

Stop acting like the bull in a china shop assuming things. And nice display of language and character there. Me of all people a TAMIL? You've certainly lost it mate.

One way or another the SLDF needs a political solution to finish things off for good. You cant expect the budget to spend billions each year for the next decade. The majority of the war budget is for troops - their wages, pension, welfare etc. Not for weapons. Once the areas are captured holding onto it once war is over is costly business.

General Fonseka etc are not going to be there for the next decade. To keep the captured areas in check. But of course you will be there thumping away filth and racist garb on the keyboard for the next decade.

Raves said...

Wijayapala,

[There's something you said on sf-3 which sums up how I feel about the keyboard warriors:

Basically you are ridiculing everyone at the very top of our defence without knowing two hoots.

Men with 30 years or more experience taking lessons from a keyboard warrior? Wow indeed!]

Now ain't that true? The top most military commander to who even General Fonseka answers to is Donald Perera who was the Air chief. If the current air chief was an incompetent buffoon Donald Perera will be the first to fire him off for good. And we all know how hot tempered General Fonseka is and how badly he despises failure. At the moment he is very good and holds good coordination with Roshan gunathilaka.

Our dear residents dont get it. They always want to do better than 30 year veterans.

Sam Perera said...

To Wijayapala and Constantin Demaris,

I repeat.

"Your grandiosity, as I mentioned earlier, takes you nowhere other than to the land of fake pundits. As we all know, other than a few bloggers, most of us are SL defence enthusiasts of various walks. Therefore, your attempts to be a pundit here is laughable, to say the least. Please don't be another blog parasite who tries to change the focus of these blogs and start your own blog. Please feel free to ask for help if you don’t know how to setup your own blog."

Please be assured that the effectiveness of your propaganda is less than zero here. I suggest you to spend your time elsewhere, like your own blog to discuss your own philosophy. Speaking for myself, you are just a blog parasite who tries to promote your own agenda at the expense of another’s blog.

wijayapala said...

Arse-ithri whined,

"So, I implore you Wesa-Balla…read my lips and give up your campaign here!"

I was about to leave but after watching the Dumb-Arse go down on his knees like this, I've decided to stay! After all it isn't every day one gets to see a grown man talk about fornicating with his own mother and/or sister.

wijayapala said...

Sam Perera,

I repeat.

Can you answer the question what Dumb-Arse's male ancestors did to your male Portuguese ancestors? I am trying to stay with the current topic!

Raves said...

Sam,

[Please be assured that the effectiveness of your propaganda is less than zero here.]

And your comments holds more value? I'd be damn interested to see the survey you carried out.

I hardly comment here just for one reason. Its pointless. A discussion or debate is supposed to be give and take. Its just I had some spare time this Sunday.

Some things you can't change kiddo by thumping away on a keyboard. Ground realities will remain the same. If you think this war is run solely upon Sinhala blood, then you are seriously wrong.

Gringo said...

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLMt9NM5Aq0]

This is the standard of our opposition leader!

Those who voted for UNP must be kicking themselves!

Sam Perera said...

Constantin Demaris,

"One way or another the SLDF needs a political solution to finish things off for good. You cant expect the budget to spend billions each year for the next decade. The majority of the war budget is for troops - their wages, pension, welfare etc. Not for weapons. Once the areas are captured holding onto it once war is over is costly business."

Since you have a grain of defence related matters mentioned, I would say that you are extremely naive to think that LTTE will vanish in to thin air after restoration of full territorial control of Sri Lanka. LTTE will try to surface at every opportunity disrupting any "political solution" as they did in the past. I firmly believe that we need to maintain formidable military in Sri Lanka indefinitely for several reasons:

(1) To maintain full territorial control of Sri Lanka including the redefined maritime boundary.
(2) To respond to any of the future internal threats including leftovers of LTTE and Eelamists.
(3) To deter possible foreign involvements, i.e prepare for the war we will never fight.

So, "political solutions" or not, reducing the size of our military is absolutely downright foolish.

As I stated earlier, this is not the preferable place to discuss political issues. Can you please open your won blog for political solution related issues? Alternatively, you can write to Asian Tribune. I am sure that you will have a good audience if you do so.

wijayapala said...

CD,

I found the old DN thread with the debate between David Blacker (who had actually served at EPS in the early 1990s) and Mushe. Reading it was like watching a basketball game between Gary Coleman and Charles Barclay:

http://defencenet.blogspot.com/2008/01/suicide-attack-kills-four-civilians.html?commentPage=2

It seems that Blacker's prediction that the SLA would achieve victory in the Wanni before cutting off and taking on EPS was spot on. His final comment ( :-( ) was the most telling:

Qrious, I come to this site to learn and to share. Not to recycle propoganda, or indulge in fantasy. So if you prefer that we let discussions be dragged into the realm of fairy tale by people who don't know what they're talking about, I can stop arguing and trying to correct the mistakes.

Raves said...

Sam,

[I firmly believe that we need to maintain formidable military in Sri Lanka indefinitely]

I am with you. Dont get me wrong. Im not saying we have to disband our MBRLs, the jets and the lot. Like I said these dont form the bulk of the SLA cost. Its wages and other wellfare of our soldiers. A some sort of political solution needs to address and give the entrapped civilians an alternative to the LTTE. If not like you said the civilians will harbour whatever remnants. The LTTE on their own WILL NOT and CANNOT survive without a population base. Once its melted away the army needs to reduce its numbers. Any government is not in a position for the next decade to pour in billions. Its not economically feasible. IN short term as they are doing now, it may be feasible. In long term, its a no.

Sam Perera said...

wijayapala,

"Can you answer the question what Dumb-Arse's male ancestors did to your male Portuguese ancestors? I am trying to stay with the current topic!"

Yes I can, and I say that I am not here to answer the questions directed to others.

Raves said...

Wijayapala,

Thats a nice find. Let the readers decide.

Sam Perera said...

Constantin Demeris,

"The LTTE on their own WILL NOT and CANNOT survive without a population base. Once its melted away the army needs to reduce its numbers. Any government is not in a position for the next decade to pour in billions. Its not economically feasible. IN short term as they are doing now, it may be feasible. In long term, its a no."

I believe that you are extremely naive and shortsighted in your views of reducing the military. Look around the world on other countries on how they manage disproportionally large military forces and you will find a few ways to do this.

wijayapala said...

Dear Sam,

"I would say that you are extremely naive to think that LTTE will vanish in to thin air after restoration of full territorial control of Sri Lanka."

And I would say you are extremely naive to think that SL can sustain a 500,000-man military indefinitely out of fear of the Tamils and "Big Brother" India i.e. "***the war we will never fight.***"

The LTTE's ability to resurface after its military destruction will depend on how secure the Tamils feel and their alternatives to militancy, namely education and employment. If the Tamils don't feel safe and if there aren't alternatives to violence, then the war will never end.

The LTTE's ability to disrupt a political solution will be sharply diminished after it loses control over population and territory. For example, the LTTE was unable to disrupt the local and PC elections in the East, because the SLDF took the time and effort to clear out Thoppigala first. If a critical mass of the Tamil people sign onto a political solution in the face of LTTE weakness, the Tigers will either have to fight the bulk of their own people or disappear.

Spending all of our national resources on a bloated military after the LTTE's defeat will necessarily divert resources from other areas, such as health and education (that is the point which Ananda-USA was unable to refute). Forget about the Tamils- if the Sinhalese masses believe that they're being marginalized, we will see the 3rd JVP uprising regardless of how large the military is.

When the country is bankrupt and in the midst of internal upheaval, that is when the LTTE will make its comeback.

This is a far far more significant matter than wondering how close 59 Division is to Mullaitivu or how many Tigers we killed over the weekend at Kilinochchi.

wijayapala said...

Sorry Sam, didn't see your last comment:

"Look around the world on other countries on how they manage disproportionally large military forces and you will find a few ways to do this."

Take a look at the following research (by real scholars, not bloggers) and tell us how you plan on accomplishing this:

Military Expenditure and Growth in Less Developed Countries
http://jcr.sagepub.com/cgi/content/abstract/27/2/335

This article analyzes the relationship between military expenditure and economic growth in less developed countries using cross-sectional evidence in a macrostatistical framework. Within the context of a fully specified empirical model it is found that military expenditure has a negative effect on growth and thus retards development. Specification sensitivity analysis is conducted to show that the results are robust.

Guns versus Butter: A Multisectoral Approach to Military Expenditure and Growth with Evidence from Greece, 1960-1993
http://jcr.sagepub.com/cgi/content/abstract/43/4/501

This article investigates the growth-defense relationship in the case of Greece over the period from 1960 to 1993. Results show that the annual output growth rate in Greece is negatively affected by the size of the defense sector, as measured by real military expenditure. They indicate that the post-1974 threat of war facing Greece as well as the oil-price shocks of the 1970s have retarded economic growth in this country.

Raves said...

Sam,

[I believe that you are extremely naive and shortsighted in your views of reducing the military. Look around the world on other countries on how they manage disproportionally large military forces and you will find a few ways to do this.]

Being naieve and shortsighted is you my friend. This is SL, tiny spec on the Indian ocean. When other LTTE analysts point fingers at bigger countries and their failure to defeat taliban in afghanistan and AQ in Iraq, you point to the same armies and say how big they are.

Of course there's a way to do this, if the entire army VOLUNTEERS. I suppose you will be the first to volunteer in such a endeavour? Would you volunteer freely to defend the territory Sam?

This is the reality. The people needs to be given an alternative. Why do you think the GOSL is propping up Karuna and Pillayan so much? Thats the alternative GOSL have given to ex-LTTE commanders. If they were treated badly as some political discards, where are they supposed to turn to? Likewise the people of the Wanni needs to be given an alternative, an alternative to show them how WRONG they were to be under the jackboot of the LTTE.

Confidene of the population is something we need to permanently crush this menace. Watch body of lies if it doesn't mean anything what Im talking about. As the head of the Jordanian intelligence said "watch and learn"

Sam Perera said...

wijayapala,

I am not interested in discussing your "political solutions" here. As I suggested earlier stop being a parasite and start your own blog. Please feel free to ask if you need any help in setting up a blog.

hemantha said...

Thoppigala abd Ranil (Video)

click here.

Sam Perera said...

constantin demeris,

I am not here to discuss politics. Please feel free to setup our own blog for that purpose or go to Asian Tribune. Your naivety lies within your belief that LTTE and Eelamists are going to vanish in to thin air after establishing the full territorial control of Sri Lanka and a "political solutions." What you play is a very ideological scenario. What you believe to be impossible may not be the impossible for others. What used to be the impossible for many military pundits and media pundits have been proved possible by a good political leadership, military leadership, and braves soldiers (like Lt. Col. Lalith Jayasinghe) today. We are ridden with small thinkers, nay sayers and perpetual pessimists. If we leave our country to them, then we are guaranteed to loose today. I am very glad that our ancestors were not like that.

Once again, please open up your own blog to discuss political matters or a hybrid of political and military matters without being a parasite.

wijayapala said...

Dear Sam,

"I am not interested in discussing your "political solutions" here."

It seems that you're not interested in discussing defense issues either, by looking at your response.

One of my early posts here had absolutely nothing to do with defense matters but got praise from everyone, including DW himself:

http://defencewire.blogspot.com/2008/07/for-sake-of-future-operations.html

Since this isn't your blog, you're not in a very credible position to tell me what to do. Therefore stop being a parasite and start your own blog about people who post on defense and non-defense matters. Please feel free to ask if you need any help in setting up a blog.

"I say that I am not here to answer the questions directed to others."

Then why are you writing to me, when none of my original posts were directed at you?

Just to clarify- as long as we don't specifically address you when insulting Sri Lankans with Portuguese ancestry, you are completely ok with it. That's nice to know.

(I'm looking forward to Dumb-Arse's apology for writing filth about Sri Lankans of Portuguese descent and being a Dumb-Arse- let's see what he has to say!)

hemantha said...

Wanni Operation (video)

click here.

Sam Perera said...

wijayapala,

Your pathetic attempts to change the focus will not work with me. How I feel about my ancestry is none of your business. You are simply a parasite who tries to change the focus constantly. Please open up your own blog for political matters without being a parasite here. I most certainly will be there to agree or disagree with your views.

Raves said...

Sam,

[Once again, please open up your own blog to discuss political matters or a hybrid of political and military matters without being a parasite.]

Running away from the topic now are we?

Just saw two video links to Ranil's shenanigans.

Are you painting with a broad brush to include those authors who posted the links as well?

Like I said, if the entire massive army volunteers ONLY maintaining such a army becomes economically feasible. So are you volunteering for such an endeavour? You don't believe me obviously. Just ask any high ranker in the army. I happen to know a few army medics since Im in the medical field.

And I know how badly and poorly our hospitals are run. Almost always running out of basic medical supplies. Not a single day passes without having to transfer meds from other hospitals. I mean basics like Aspirin and Salbutamol inhalers. Desoyza maternity hospital runs on burette sets. Now dont know if you will allow your child to be under the care of a burette set. The list goes on.

I will leave you to your fairy tales. At least the government is working the right way. It broke the JVP and made it a non-entity. it wont be long before parties like JHU break up. I think already the TNA is being dealt with.

Raves said...

Sam

[Please open up your own blog for political matters without being a parasite here.]

Are you the Admin of this site?

What right have you got to filter fellow bloggers?

Did Google grant you this power?

Annonymous said...

Guys guys, cool down.

You guys are debating host of topics out of basket. Did you ever wonder why Peter, Mahen, Thiru, real, Bhairav and co are happilly silent. You do their part of contaminating the blog.

Ok, ok, I don't want to violate your right of expression. But please think twice unless you're actually another one like above listed parasites. And if you're... well... we'll catch you one day.

Bhairav;

[[ Bhairav said...

When did these rana da potato and assithiri kiss and make up? ]]

Didn't you see their shake hand? They are quite fine and know that they both sit in one side. Occasionally people end up in two sides of arguments but both Rana and Asithri are intelligent enough to find friend and foe.

Meanwhile we're yet to know the latest between you and Mahen. Last time I saw you two chatting you tried your Vellala supremacy over Mahen's sakkili presence to shut him up, when he called your anti-VP stance as traitor. Pity that Mahen has gone bankrupted with expensive promises whereas Peter, who bought the untied rope given by Mahen has gone hidden behind the scene. They both mark their presence by occasionally counting the number of km to Kilinochchi. Sadly for you guys, even their counting is getting lesser.

Bhairav you ought to answer few questions that I have.

Firstly, if I accuse VP for betraying the tamil race's chance for a separate country in SL, how would you take that?

Secondly, with the new standings of Wanni chess board, how can tigers turn tables from here?

Let me help you a bit. Every attempt of counter attack was sunk. The unceasing waves has been turned into self destruction waves by the intro of MBRL in common use. TAF may still try but they also seem to be more of an exhibition than an effective weapon. SLDF is banging many doors of Wanni and VP don't even have enough staff to open all the doors at the same time. Every sinister plan is getting well spoiled in Colombo. India seem to be determined this time to stand against terror. Mumbai terrorists gave them the final answer. Karunabudi has become a show clown.

Now tell me in these grounds, how are tigers gonna turn the tide for their advantage?

Sam Perera said...

Constantin,

It is good to talk about how bad hospitals are and about other countless deficiencies in our country. In this blog where the titles says "The Web's Fastest And Most Accurate Defence News With An Analysis!", I personally prefer to listen to DefenceWire, DefenceAnalyst, and other SL militray insiders , not your yarns about political solutions. I believe that the title defines the intention of the blog owner. Please create a blog of your own to discuss all the issues relevant to Sri Lanka. I will be there when ever I get a chance to discuss them.

Sam Perera said...

anonymous,

Thanks for orienting the discussion in the right directions. Keep up good work.

Bhairav said...

[But of course you will be there thumping away filth and racist garb on the keyboard for the next decade.]

Assithiri and Moshy are going to be franchise players of this blog? ha ha ha!!

Anyways, who are the role players for them here? Sam,Ninja,Hemantha.....LOL!

Raves said...

Sam,

[not your yarns about political solutions]

Now you are being funny.

All i said was a political solution AFTER hammering the LTTE. I didnt glarb about 18th amendment or federal systems.

If you arent able to support your arguement in a straight manner, admit it like a gentleman without circumventing it.

The discussion was "Can SL maintain a massive army post war".

How on earth is it IRRELAVANT to a defence blog?

Peter said...

DefenceLiar is monk
http://www.sinhala.net/LocalNews/SinhalaNet_Full_News.asp?ID=4351#NewsViewBM


He was arrested last week
http://www.lakbimanews.lk/news/laknew16.htm

Sam Perera said...

Constantin Demaris,

Do you really believe that LTTE and Eelamist are going to vanish soon? Ok, can you please tell me what you mean by "post-war?" What are the conditions you expect in your post-war era?

Annonymous said...

OK now there seem to be one hell of a political debate and 1983 debate. I think it is time to raise the relatively unimportant (wrt the politics fans) topic of today's war.

Just happened to know that they spoiled another sinister plan of jumping to a VIP vehicle from a Colombo building.

Smart thinking, is it?

More than any smart thinking behind this, we can consider that this is a great compliment for SLDF and their protection of city. Those who find offended at check points can think twice now. It is very easy to conduct a terror act. It is 1000 times hard to avoid. If our forces could avoid even the suicide cadres from attacking in their usual fashion and they are trying to innovate new ways, wow well done SLDF.

However threats in Colombo are mildly overcome. Last time I visited there, I ended up astonished to notice the number of abandoned/rusted buildings in the surrounding of MR residence.

If we leave such for easy access to a terrorist, MR's life is hanging in the delicate thread of avoiding a sniper being smuggled there. Note that some such buildings are small stores and saiver kades. Time to BUY the land surrounding important residencies.

Also I saw some photo of MR opening an over-head bridge down Kandy rd. He's making a walk in the park overlooking shanties and slums. On what grounds do you leave out the possibility of snipers or RPG hiding inside the slums? Why does the price president risk his life for a stupid overhead bridge?

And the TAF risk that some ppl argued/proved here. We're not yet through.

In the coming months tigers will be pushed to the wall and they know [despite all punnakku sold to die-as-buruwah] that they have NO chance in battle front. This operation is at best precision and basically flawless. So they will try the best black magic in Colombo. We should not leave it all in the hands of MI corp. Some preemptive actions and intensified search operations are needed.

Otherwise, 100 catches will render meaningless by one miss.

Peter said...

UNP stooges' conversation etiquette is only superior in the real world.

On blogs, the real heroes are SLFP farm boys who can spurt out maximum profanities with minimum keystrokes.

Bhairav said...

[now tell me in these grounds, how are tigers gonna turn the tide for their advantage?]

Ano,

Holding into captured areas would be very expensive venture for this current government as global economy is heading into deep recession. Given current conditions, the present govrn can only sustain this war efforts for next 2 years at max, so LTTE should reassess this opportunity into their favor by going into rebuilding mode while maintaining the sporadic small scale attacks on the government forces for next one year. In 2 years time, SLA will be thinly overstretched with lack of resources and it will allow the LTTE to square the match even. I won't see anything biggie from LTTE for next 6 months.

Sam Perera said...

Constantin Damaris,

Everything is relevant to everything, one way or other. Bad economy in Micronesia is relevant to Sri Lanka in some way when the politicians want university student to boycott classes in support of a poor people of Micronesia. As I said, I will visit your blog to talk about all the issues including lack of nedical supplies in Sri Lanka and third world altogether.

Raves said...

Sam,

[Do you really believe that LTTE and Eelamist are going to vanish soon? Ok, can you please tell me what you mean by "post-war?" What are the conditions you expect in your post-war era?]

Of course they wont vanish soon. If you listed to the commander's interview he clearly said the LTTE will go udnerground. If they go underground they are going to need the population to support them and harbour them AMONG them, just like some civilians are doing in Colombo and the East. Ob viously this can be kept in check with a massive military, daily road blocks, security checks etc. But at what cost? Will the people tolerate such hardships once the war is over? Questions will be asked what was the point of the war if the security isn't improved?

By putting up a political solution and expediting the development of the war torn areas the underground LTTE cadres and their supporters surely will lose the will and determination to fight. Take Karuna for example. Will he go back to mosquito infested jungles and fight dropping his limo, his suit, his mobile and other perks? Why do you think the GOSL is propagating to LTTE cadres that surrendees will be given foreign job opportunities? Its all about an alternative and winning their hearts and minds. Once their hearts and minds are with us, we dont need such a massive army to keep them in check. And with the money saving it can be put to good use to develop other areas like Health or else our own Sinhalese will rise against poverty. The last thing we need is for the JVP to exploit the poor and cause another uprising.

I am very very happy with the way the war is going, make no mistake. But when its drawing to a close, we'd better think fast of a post war situation. Cos its reaching us fast than we all think.

Moshe Dyan said...

sam, asithri,

this crap & debris as his name goes is not capable of discussing anything of importance.

Raves said...

[in all probability this is the fifth avatar of wesa-pala himself.]

haha, the great Moshe speaks!

Just go up and see there was once when My post and Wijaypala's appeared at the very same time.

lol

So tell me Moshe, is it not the job of SLAF to ferry the wounded? Yo udidnt include it in your SLAF's to do list. Now the SLAF after 'reading' your posts have decided to cancel medical evacuations. Oh my!

Raves said...

[crap & debris as his name goes]

My name is from a Sydney Sheldon novel called the Other side of midnight.

You'd better do some reading Moshe before jumping the gun.

lol

Moshe Dyan said...

from TN,

"The final voting on the third reading of the Sri Lankan budget for 2009 presented by the government led by Mahinda Rajapakse is to take place Monday amid speculation that some of the UNP dissident parliamentarians led by its leader Karu Jayasuriya would rejoin the UNP."

the level of desperation of the LTTE!

LTTE's inability to respond militarily to the advancing army is very clear. it is harping too much on the budget, floods, elections and other irrelevancies instead of the do or die battle at hand.

Raves said...

[this crap & debris as his name goes is not capable of discussing anything of importance.]

A drowning man clutches at straws...

Bhairav said...

[Wow! Sounds like another Portuguese rapist/arsonist out to devour our Motherlanka!

Whore-bitch…do you want me to tell you what my ancestors used to do to captured Portuguese “soldadts” in our proud down-south Ruhuney? I bet not!]

Oh poor sam, what would be your reaction to this another outburst from the assithri? You being the grumpy old man, i do not see anything that will go against this assithiri. If you push your limits, he will say that Tamils are 100 times better than you-half-breed.

No day is boring at DW!!

It is more of WWF tag team match ups, and more dramas and actions.

Sam Perera said...

Constantin Damaris,

You are heading back again to discuss a political solution again. I will be more than happy to discuss political solutions in your future political blog.

Annonymous said...

Bhairav;

[[Holding into captured areas would be very expensive venture for this current government as global economy is heading into deep recession. Given current conditions, the present govrn can only sustain this war efforts for next 2 years at max, so LTTE should reassess this opportunity into their favor by going into rebuilding mode while maintaining the sporadic small scale attacks on the government forces for next one year. In 2 years time, SLA will be thinly overstretched with lack of resources and it will allow the LTTE to square the match even. I won't see anything biggie from LTTE for next 6 months.]]

Thank you for the attempt.

Your answer is built upon few basic assumptions. So let me clear them from your mind, so that you can reconsider above answer in their void.

- tigers will be left with the same strength after the land under their control, is liberated.

there is a day for them to take SLDF head on, or flee to another country. I mean for the "elite" lot (looks like the sacrificial one-from-each-family can be used as cannon-fodder until then). Their strength will be reduced to 1/10 in numbers, weaponry and strategy by the time we liberate Wanni

- public support to tigers comes fully with willingness.

Most Wanni ppl are suppressed. We're yet to hear their voice. Also some others are fooled. They are yet to hear outside voices to get enlightened. In my opinion tigers will get < 25% support if we can chase them out of SL. Even that 25% will gradually forget tigers.

When the tiger strong control is removed, regaining it will be next to impossible


- SLDF will have to be the shepherd dogs of Wanni herd for ever.

Not exactly. Many tamils will guard their siblings from falling to terrorism. Also SL police and STF will take part in this. I agree that it will be a big task to maintain, but not an impossible one. In the worst case SLDF out number Wanni population :)

- No tigers will enter politics and turn sides [like TMVP]

In the contrary, this will become a practice for many. There must be so many who join tigers as they wanna represent their ppl. Not everyone is a fooled child soldier. In the lack of VP and big lot, the juniors will rise for the need. And they will take care of the remaining tigers. SL will never violate tamil right for self annihilation.

- After capturing the entire wanni SLDF will fail to find the ratholes of every tiger leader.

This means essentially they have to flee. Not only them but also any "elite" fighters who wanna fight another day. Note that coordinating from abroad is quite hard

- Wanni population is the same as the 1981 consensus.

Thanks to Prabha we lost troubling tamils either into first world countries where they started getting troubled or to maveerer mass graves. [This is the Question which you convieniently skipped]. Today Wanni population is the poorest and most demoralized group of people who will definitely become dependents on rest of SL after liberation. They will represent < 5% of population.

Jaffna tamils are relatively under control and their multi-political system is making them ordinary people. Here and there support for tigers will diminish if we liberate Wanni and make VP and clan fugitives on die-as-buruwah expense.

Look at colombo tamils. They live mostly harmless. Some may be separatist and tiger supporters, but majority either oppose tigers or are forced to support. They have every power an ordinary SL has. Note that it will be next to impossible to turn them into terrorists.

We do NOT consider die-as-buruwah important unless they have sizable support here. You guys can have a beer on Nov 27, wear black arm band on July 31, and have a social gathering like sports meet on any decided Pongu Thamil day. Make VP chief guest




BTW, Bhairav, thanks again for understanding that there is no way for tigers this time. And as long as SL makes sure there is no next time, it will diminish and become history.

And now I suppose you can/have answer for my previous Q.

if I accuse VP for betraying the tamil race's chance for a separate country in SL, how would you take that?

Sam Perera said...

Moshe,

Divaina says that we took control of the 2nd LTTE line of bunkers in Kilaly. Any idea if this is second of many or second of three as we heard early days? If so, the day we reach EP may not be far away. I would say that the game id over when 53 and 55 crosses EP. Lets keep our fingers crossed.

Lalith Kuruwita said...

The LTTE’s political head B Nadesan told teachers and principals of schools in Vaddakachchi in Kilinochchi district on December 4, that it was time every Tamil in the Wanni war zone joined the fighting cadre of the Liberation Tigers.

He quoted General Giap, the hero of the Vietnam War, to say that a liberation war could be won only when everybody participated in the fighting, and every village became a military camp. Nadesan defended the LTTE’s demand that every family in the Wanni should give at least one person to its fighting forces saying that it was a “compulsion of the times”.

Asithri said...

Sam (to wijayapala aka undercover Tamil racist wesaballa)…

[As I suggested earlier stop being a parasite]

See Sam, this is the problem with parasites…they suck the blood and they are happy…they rather not be disturbed…they in a blissful state and only when you yank the motherfuckers out and put them on a burning tire do they wake up and listen to you – but then, alas, it is too late uh? Not sure what fertilizes the soil better…ashes by burning on a tire or decomposition through being buried alive…damn it…now another dilemma!
As such, any final word from you Bio-Scientists/Chemists/Agriculturists would be much appreciated.

LMSSAO!!!

OaO Asithri

Asithri said...

Moshey

[this crap & debris as his name goes is not capable of discussing anything of importance]

I figured it too mate!

The bugger is hooked on Sydney Sheldon and naturally, he calls what the wesaballa (aka “wijayapla” the undercover Tamil racist motherfcuker who is re-writing SL history here) spews here “historical facts”..!!!

LMSSAO!!!

OaO Asithri

Rana said...

Guys,

This blog is getting better and better every day!

Reading most of the posts are much more interesting than writing one!

Annoymous,

//Didn't you see their shake hand? They are quite fine and know that they both sit in one side. Occasionally people end up in two sides of arguments but both Rana and Asithri are intelligent enough to find friend and foe.//

Thanks for your kind words, brother. You are doing a good job keep it up, mate.

Bhairav has lost his interest in rapidly vanishing peelam and decided to be humorist for the time being.

hemantha said...

Bhairav,
Do you know that story about the "fate of the monkey who was trying to help the elephants to screw each other"?

Somebody has written a song about it. This is a small part.

"wandura athulata yanawaa..
Wandura eliyata enawa...
(The monkey goes in and the monkey comes out)"

Then finally the monkey says
"Ali hu--nna
Api marenna"

Ra said...

Wijeyapala and Demiris,

This request is on behalf of all the blogger community who come here to read defense related.

Start your own blog or join Peter. Discuss your political and history rewriting stuff elsewhere.

You come here because you want us to read your shit posts. Isn't that so?

Post war scenarios my ass! We are going to get all diaspora clowns deported. So pack your bags.

Rana said...

Constantin Demiris,

Mate, you seems to be working in the health sector with good knowledge on medicines!

Reading Sidney Sheldon is not very good for a person like that, unless you are a shrinker!

Have read SS's Blood Line, Master of the game and Rage of Angles etc.

Then you would be in a fair position to give us a good psycho analysis on vesapille pukeharan's megalomaniac mind and even pottu's.

I would be interested/thrilled to read something like that.

Rana said...

Hemantha,

I remember that story brother, good one!

Rana said...

Constantine Demiris,

Are you reading Robin Cook's also?

Asithri said...

This wesaball (aka Wijaypala the undercover Tamil racist) and Crap & Debris are really out to demoralize SL patriots about scenarios of “after the war” whereby their modes-operandi is to set stage for a resurgence of the LTTE type of terrorism to rear its ugly head again in SL – by now itself complaining about the high defense expenditure, the economy, asking for quick demobilization of the SLDF, blah blah!

As such, they condemn the current politico/military establishment with a view to demoralizing our fighting troops and the general populace (from which troops are drawn)!

Here is an example, whereby wesaballa aka “wijayapala” (the undercover Tamil racist gook) said in this thread:

[This (i.e. the AFTER war issues) is a far more significant matter than wondering how close 59 Division is to Mullaitivu or how many Tigers we killed over the weekend at Kilinochchi.]

Really?

See what I mean patriots?

Yes, these traitor-motherfcukers are the “thamileelam fifth column"…yes, they very surreptitiously lurk in here and set stage for the next “LTTE” resurgence! They know this “LTTE” is all but gone now..so, the mission is to set the stage for the next “LTTE” (like their forefathers GG Ponnambalam, Ponnambalam Arunachalam, Ponnambalam Ramanathan, did years ago for this LTTE!)

(Wow! I just noticed…three of the biggest Tamil racist gooks SL has ever had, they all had “ponna” in their name! Coincidence?) LMSSAO!!!

Hey wesaballa aka “wijayapala”…take it easy “thamileelamist” undercover bitch, it appears you are not the first Ponnaya to go against Motherlanka! I see you have had many noteworthy ancestors!)

As for some of us, no, our preoccupation is the LTTE KIA today! Yes, we are determined not to be distracted by your ploys and yes, just as we have done in the East, we will figure out the rest once the last LTTE MF has been liquidated!

Not clear? Just read my lips!

LMSSAO!!!

OaO Asithri

Ra said...

Hemantha, your story should be in English otherwise Bahirav will not understand.

hemantha said...

Last_mile,
I didn't want to translate the last part.

Ra said...

We shall set up a new Task Force called White Van II, they will take care of rest of the peelam buddies after war.

Keep your fingers crossed!

And for the Fourth International pals... you will hear from WV I anytime.

Raves said...

[As such, they condemn the current politico/military establishment with a view to demoralizing our fighting troops and the general populace (from which troops are drawn)!]

lol. Is it me whose demoralising our troops? How about General Moshes writings? Its basically asking our commanders to leanr to count 1 2 3

[1. destroy LTTE arti/motar positions
2. bombs LTTE gathering points
3. bombs sizable LTTE concentrations
4. destroy LTTE`s evacuation systems
5. destroy LTTE`s weapons transport systems (they must be VERY efficient)
6. burn down areas tigers can hide (if using fuel bombs it doesn`t matter if it is raining or not!!)
7. attack tiger leaders` fox holes
8. provide MORE CAS
9. provide MORE, UP-TO-THE-MINUTE UAV footage to SLA
10. rape LTTE cadre transport systems (to the battle front) that seem to be very efficient
11. run down the LTTE morale by using devastating gravity bombs
12. use cluster bombs in DIRECT retaliation to APMs heavily used by tigers.]

Why being selective? lol

Dont think even the parliament is full of such filthy language. Excellent on how you portray yourself as a patriot. Keep it up.

And where's the rest who was complaining this blog is drifting away from defence related talk? Is filth and name calling part of defence?

Sam Perera said...

Asithri and Moshe,

These people reminds me the coconut tree and tick (mekka) story. Any path leads to a "political solution for LTTE" discussion as shown below.

1)World health issues -> Shortage of medical supplies in Sri Lanka -> Political solution for LTTE.
2)Insufficient number of universities in Sri Lanka -> Shortage of funds -> Political solution for LTTE.
3)Deteriorating monuments in Sri Lanka -> Shortage of funds -> Political solution for LTTE.
4)AIDS and STD in Sri Lanka -> Shortage of funds -> Political solution for LTTE.
5) Condition X -> Condition Y -> Political solution for LTTE.
6) Headache -> No good headache medicine -> Shortage of funds to develop a new pain killer ->Aha! Political solution for LTTE.
7) Global warming -> Shortage of funds to develop clean energy solutions ->Aha! Political solution for LTTE.

Ra said...

Hemantha, Well Bahiravaya may not understand the role of the monkey and its relevance.

LOL!

Good one Sam!

Asithri said...

Crap & Debris

[How about General Moshes writings?]

His writings I will read...and re-read and may be even re-re-read, get it? LMSSAO!!!

Whereas your writings, all out to denigrate/corrupt/distract our bravehearts' achievements and criticize the current GOSL that is doing a stellar job to fcuk the LTTE, I am just about to start to ignore (aha, yes, not easy for humble OaOA as most patriots know here!)...

Moshey has proven, time and again, that he is a true SL patriot...wereas you scumbag, you who only today "just dropped in" in here to defend this wesaballa aka "wijayapala," what have you shown - other than that you are a SL traitor...likely another undercover "thamileelam" mother-doer or a RW pansy (same genre in my view) out to demoralize our troops?

OaO Asithri

Rana said...

DW,

We need a speedy and strategic solution to Muhamale, Kilali and Nagarkovil axis stale mate!

That stale mate is affecting Paranthan front also.

It is a shame, if we can't advance on Muhamale with a robust military plan to minimise casualties. Muhamalei dillemma costing us time which we do not have.

Why Gen.SF is not trying Air bourne division and SLN more effectively to attack behind enemy lines?

Please give us a thorough analysis on this ASAP.

Thank you in advance!!!

Asithri said...

OK my BB went off telling me the "secret site" has just uploaded the the latest harvest of LTTE dead bodies...so, got to run and pour myself a glass of vintage wine and go enjoy a good "browse at leisure"...

Catch you patriots later...

OaO Asithri

Moshe Dyan said...

sam,

a beauti!

well said, mate.

but lets not fall into their agenda. i'm with last_mile. the best way to tackle them is to CONTINUE discussing military matters.

Moshe Dyan said...

asithri,

wow!

mate, you have a highly sought-after skill which is the ability to identify friend and foe even b4 jonty rhodes flexes his muscles!!

wish our battlefield brothers had it too.

from what i hear LTTE MFs (EXACTLY like these pretender MFs here) use deception extensively. there has been a disturbing number of instances recently when tiger crappies have come in disguise and attacked unsuspecting soldiers.

they have stolen the uniforms and other identification wears from corpses. despicable! only barbarians could do.

after all a number of highly educated patriots here FELL for their antics too. so i can understand the plight of our brothers in arms. but thank god they are slowly but surely identifying the creatures.

cheers bro!

Raves said...

[Moshey has proven, time and again, that he is a true SL patriot...wereas you scumbag,]

So basically having faith in our commanders is being a scumbug....but teaching them 1 2 3 and questioning them left, right and sideways without any faith is being patriotic.

I say wow....woow indeed!

Saman said...

Brothers,

It seems Sakkilya’s are setting a trend here. Emerging trend is that Sakkilya’s telling us what to do and how to behave after the war. They are, softening our hearts and minds (not attempting to win our H&M’s but softening our H&M’s after 30 years of chaos they have created and totally responsible of. We do not have to respond to that. NOT AT ALL.

Well these are the Sakkiliya’s, who were arguing we would never win this war (right) couple of weeks ago. The crust of their arguments are “how can or should we maintain such a large army?” and “LTTE would go underground and fight back again”.

Well, I said before next five years would be a period Tamils paying blood money to Sinhalese. If I put in modern terms cooperate and live in to our terms. It is our turn to say – Tamils, you have to prove us first that you are a transformed group and trustworthy citizens. It is not for us to do the reverse. We could and should have done otherway had they not promised to bring Ealam war IV to Colombo and instead settled for a political settlement peacefully. That is the responsibility of Tamil politicians/masses now. We must declare this to the world and India in no uncertail terms.

The response to their question, “how can we maintain such a large army?” The answer should be along the lines, Fuck-off, get lost, none of your business (or politely show the finger or just ignore)

The other argument, if we do not do that, separatist politics (as Moshe puts non-violent form separatism) would make sure the Ealam Dream would kept alive until next generation of LTTE raises its head. That “LTTE would go underground and fight back again” Blah, blah….

The answer would be – Piss-off. We will take care of that. That is why 2009 budget is there for – to pick them one by one and crush them like bugs.

I think when the war is over; we must take the best brains and smart operators from the SLDF/SLP/CID to produce a shadow intelligence/quick response group (similar to FBI, KGB operatives) specifically targeting to weed-off non-violent separatism or any armed struggle against an elected government. MR should campaign his next election with clear message asking a mandate to constitutionalise what ever the powers and legislature required to do that. OPERATIONS of this unit must only be within our shores. We must acquire state-of-the-art know-how and establish a defense institution (University) to do R&D in this sector and be the most resourceful unit in SAARC region. Must get the top students in each discipline of study and pay them a top dollar to retain them within borders. GoSL must not let, numerous organizations evolved around the world in addressing this national question (like key-board worriors here) ever to die-off after the successful conclusion of this war against separatism. GoSL must find a way to intigrate these huge networks to mak Lanka Matha safe and protected.

hemantha said...

Last_mile,
"Hemantha, Well Bahiravaya may not understand the role of the monkey and its relevance."

He will understand. Yes. He is an ass. But a very smart one.

Rana said...

In memory of late Maj. Lalith Jayasinghe:

"PIPUNU KUSUMA PARA UWA"
"BAMBARA NIKINI GOLU UNA"
"MUTHU KETA SUDA SANGA UNA"
"HASRELI VIYALEE GIYA"

"SITHAKA NEGE PEM RALA PELA
WERALA WELANDA NIL DESAKA"
"KANDULU WALATA PERALUNA"///
"DESA ANDURA KETI UNA"

lyrist-Sri Gunasinghe-
vocalist-Amaradewa

Moshe Dyan said...

sam,

ok. you proved me wrong.

the language used in the sinhala text suggests that SLA has captured with the intent of keeping the second FDL of kilali. so it is much more than a softening-up operation.

i recon it is second OF MANY. bcos the LTTE strategy is to maintain 3 levels of "FDL"s that are enforced with different levels of resistance and tactics. what has essentially happened is the whole FDL structure of the LTTE has been pushed southwards. good going by SLA.

but taking out LTTE 152, 122 & 120mm arti/motar positions around EP and south, south-west and south-east areas should continue. otherwise our gains would not be permanant. i guess this statement is the "tick" in my case!!!!!

based on info, SLA casualties in the muhamalai, etc. sector has been caused by the following in that order.

1. long range arti/mortar (these are fcuking accurate thanks to spotters which is explained beautifully by long ranger)
2. mines
3. short range mortar/LTTE combatants.
4. other cowardly tricks.

our mechanised infantry div has not been that very successful unfortunately. small teams have been much more successful.

hemantha said...

Troops advance in Kilali (video).

click here.

The Crumbling Muhamalae
-The Long Ranger

click here.

Anonymous said...

# General case is opposition want to get info and government hide info. However this is reversed in youtube. Some UNP/ LTTE elemennts upload old SLRC vedios with (false) recent dates and it is hard to find the latest videos.

# Again, a lot of money is to be going to work. It seems some powerfull forign countries (embassies) again behind some of our politicos and parties. To save the tigers - change the government; they are trying again. Many MPs are expected to switch sides and you can see Mongal is doing the initial part.

Rana said...

Hemantha,

Curmbling Muhamale is not a very accurate account to me.

hemantha said...

Defences of LTTE second defence line at Kilali looks weaker than that of their first. Good if the trend continues.

Saman said...

Responses to some comments to me in the last post as I was away during weekend.

Ananda-USA,

I knew you were not addressing me directly.I gave my-self as an example to put more weight on to the point I was discussing.

Wijayapala,

Thanks for clarifying your position as a direct response to my request. I gather,

You are anti-LTTE
You are anti-ealam
You are anti-seperatism
You are pro-SriLankan
You are pro-Anandasagaree.

You have been so far responding in a reactive way to parts of what other bloggers were saying. That can put a suspicion on some minds. If you may, I would invite you to write on what value system we should strive in a future Sri Lanka to avoid bloodshed between races. With a particular reference to,

What instruments available to us, Sri Lankans, in defusing 1000s of years of prejudice and accumulated hurt? In my view prejudice and accumulated hurt are the two most fundamental mechanisms of racial hatred (or to that matter any hatred). As you would agree with me, we Sinhalese and Tamils have our fair share of that in Sri Lanka, isn’t it? So that would be a facinating dialoge. I am sure at least few of us are interested to here your practical proposals.

Moshe brother,

Take your time mate. I know you are very busy doing more important things. Perhaps, my question is already being answered as SLAF is getting in to their act now. 6th Dec. alone they had 6 air sorties.

One TN Mf being stopped at the airport trying to go to TN (apparently Medical teatment - Ha, Ha). These MF's must be behind bars some time ago.

UNP is talking about getting Karu back. Proposing to form a front with Mongal, Mano Ganeshen etc. What a sad story of UNP and of ponna RW as the leader.

hemantha said...

"Curmbling Muhamale is not a very accurate account to me."

The process has just begun. Might have to wait little bit longer for the results.

Saman said...

Rana, one of my favorite songs.

Rana said...

Saman, Brother,

I still cannot get over with the loss of our unsung hero, mate!

hemantha said...

Ninja,
The probability of the government loosing the budget vote is not small. But a new election would be a nightmare to UNP & JVP. Due to that reason they might back out.

Raves said...

lol, now Im sakkiliya? Just because pointing out your flaws in your arguements?

Then I suppose NIGHTFOX78 of LNP too is a sakkiliya for calling for a political solution just like me?

http://www.lankanewspapers.com/news/2006/9/8415_71.html

Fine by me. Everyone who doesnt agree with you is a sakkiliya.

Rana said...

In memory of late Mervin Perera:


"ME NAGARAYA MA OBA MUNA GESUNU NAGARAYAI"
"ME NAGARAYA MA OBA WEN KERUNU NAGARAYAI"
...............
...............
...............

"OBATH EKKA AYETH EHE YANNA HITHENAWA"
...........
...........

Moshe Dyan said...

hemantha,

agree except for the UNP part.

UNP as it is would LOVE a general election bcos it can increase its fold.

i guess UNP now has about 50 seats?? that is 25% of all seats excluding the seats the winner gets in each district.

UNP can get MUCH MORE than 25% if there is an election today. i'm no supporter of the present URINE-PEE.
but this is the reality.

there is a second scenario. if the 17 cross over, the percentage increases to 33%. in that case UNP will be thinking (if they can think!) can we get more than 33% at the next election? if yes, they will love an election. if no, they will hang about.

i think still it can get more than 33% (excluding thonda and a section of the SLMC). i may be wrong bcos i don't know HOW unpopular the UNP is among the TOTAL SL population. rana disagreed with me. he may be right.

anyway if the budget loses, there will be a general election. so under both scenarios there is a high chance of an election.

however, i recon the govt will win the budget so the UNP will have no chance of forcing an election.

IF things are going bad, TNA crappies should be evicted from parliament by hook or by crook. i know it may not be morally correct by SOME standards, but it is still worth it.

Moshe Dyan said...

rana,

having studied @ peradeniya uni, no wonder you have a special place for that song.

Ananda-USA said...

Post by Ananda-USA at Expressbuzz.com

The advance guard of the LTTE Tigers are fleeing to Tamil Nadu in these boats to set up a mini state in Tamil Nadu: the state that gave them birth, trained, armed, and supported them to this day. The prodigal sons you inflicted on Sri Lanka are coming home; be sure to welcome them with open arms. When the LTTE begins terrorizing the people of Tamil Nadu, creating a state within a state accountable to no one, engaging in every criminal activity like a mafia, setting the people of Tamil Nadu agaist other people in India, please remember who among your rabble-rousing leaders brought these calamities down upon the collective heads of the large majority of innocent people of Tamil Nadu: Karunanidhi, Vaiko, Ramadoss etc, ad nauseam. If you want to arrest these illegal aliens, arrest these LTTE supporters first!

Rana said...

Moshe,

Yes, brother.

I wrote that post with heavy heart.

Regarding the possibility of general election:

Govt will not loose proposed budget. Even if it loose that is not automatic general election unless MR dissolve parlimant. It is highly unlikely.

What opposition can do is to bring a no confidence motion, if they managed to beat the budget.

However, I think UNP cannot win the next election.

Saman said...

Rana,

Me... nagaraya

Wav iwure diya rala pera se..ma bindenawa
Nuga gas pela apa nathu wath thawa dalu lanawa
Sarasawi bima kandu rallen ethera penenawa
Obath ekka ayeth mehi yanna hithenawa

Me.. nagaraya...

Oba atha gena giya weediye
aya ha yanawa
Singithi putha atha gillaka elli enawa
Ea kale pathu pathum yali sihi wenawa
Jeevithayama sihinayakai kiya sithenawa

Me.. nagaraya

Saman said...

Rana,

Hope heavy heart is not due to the event but for the setting - Peradeniya.

Saman said...

For those who love singing Sinhala songs and looking for lyrics visit,

www.lankasongbook.com

Those who want to listen and write down lyrics,

www.infolanka.com/miyuru_gee

ReJLoRd said...

hmm i dont think the 'counter-attack' was really a counter attack. maybe a diversion. cos 100 fighters won't be enough to have a sustained push. i guess it was a farce. just to excite the sla.

i saw a video online, 1000s of fighters training underground and in secret locations. these fighters are not at the FDLs. more like charles anthony brigade peeps. lets wait for shock and awe. ill grab my popcorn.. you guys get the body bags for the dead and wounded dead.

Corey said...

Rejlord, another bipolar peelam hallucinator has joined....

I'd like to remind that big talk and big threats do not scare us.... let's see some action...

... are those "thousands of fighters training in a hidden location" at least eight years old???

By the way, is the great peelam war IV close to Colombo now?

Haaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhh!!!

Haaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhh!!!!!!

Haaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhh!!!

Rana said...

Rejected Puke Lord,

Charles Anthony brigade already pee and poo every where in Wanni. If you wants to wait with pop corn make sure that you have at least 03 months supply.

Saman said...

Rana,

You may have already seen this article, but in case on Maj. Lalith Jayasinghe -

http://www.nation.lk/2008/12/07/militarym.htm

Ananda-USA said...

Saman,

[It seems Sakkilya’s are setting a trend here. Emerging trend is that Sakkilya’s telling us what to do and how to behave after the war. They are, softening our hearts and minds (not attempting to win our H&M’s but softening our H&M’s after 30 years of chaos they have created and totally responsible of. We do not have to respond to that. NOT AT ALL.]

Bravo! This is partly what I have been consistently writing about at this blog and elsewhere. But I am rather puzzled by your blowing hot and cold alternately.

[Well these are the Sakkiliya’s, who were arguing we would never win this war (right) couple of weeks ago. The crust of their arguments are “how can or should we maintain such a large army?” and “LTTE would go underground and fight back again”.]

Yes, when I proposed a 500,000 man standing army backed by a 4,000,000 National Guard, including all adults who can bear arms, LTTE agents at this blog tried to discourage that idea. If you go back in this blog, you will be able to find out who they are.

[Well, I said before next five years would be a period Tamils paying blood money to Sinhalese. If I put in modern terms cooperate and live in to our terms. It is our turn to say – Tamils, you have to prove us first that you are a transformed group and trustworthy citizens. It is not for us to do the reverse. We could and should have done otherway had they not promised to bring Ealam war IV to Colombo and instead settled for a political settlement peacefully. That is the responsibility of Tamil politicians/masses now. We must declare this to the world and India in no uncertail terms.]

Exactly, but scrupulously ensuring equal rights for every citizen.

[The response to their question, “how can we maintain such a large army?” The answer should be along the lines, Fuck-off, get lost, none of your business (or politely show the finger or just ignore)]

It is worthwhile to generate ideas for supporting such a defence force in the future, but some people only see difficulties along the lines of "if man had been meant to fly, he would have been born with wings!" These are the people who want to prevent it from happening at any cost! I stopped responding to one such person trolling this blog.

[The other argument, if we do not do that, separatist politics (as Moshe puts non-violent form separatism) would make sure the Ealam Dream would kept alive until next generation of LTTE raises its head. That “LTTE would go underground and fight back again” Blah, blah….

The answer would be – Piss-off. We will take care of that. That is why 2009 budget is there for – to pick them one by one and crush them like bugs.]

Agreed! Again, they are erecting barriers to prevent our protecting the motherland, so we could keep debating the subject ad infinitum, and do nothing about it. Some LTTE agents are overt, others are covert stealth operators who want to demoralize and get us collectively immobilized in a ball of sticky wax.

Over the last 35 years, I have seen this in action over and over again...to the deteriment of Sri Lanka. It makes my blood boil to think of the period, ten years ago, when everyone in Sri Lanka was a peacemaker, and anyone who stood up for the integrity of our country, a military solution to defeating an armed murderous enemy, was a racist or extremist. As a result, our leaders agreed to divide the country and endanger our people forvever! If these attitudes had prevailed in the US during WW-II, Americans would now be speaking German in Washington, DC and Japanese in San Francisco! Confronted with a mortal danger to their countries, the British and the Americans, put aside all their differences and came together to save their countries.

When I see Mangala, Ranil W, the UNP, and the JVP trying to undermine the GOSL, my anger knows no bounds! When, by God when will we learn to come together to save our country?; to recognize the tricks that have time and again been played on us until a rag-tag terrorist group became a conventional army and the coutry lay supine like a turkey on a cutting board to be carved into pieces? Have these leaders no compassion, no love, no concern for the survival for our people? I don't care which party runs the GOSL, but they must take the same stand the current Govt has taken, and I see no prospect of any other leadership having the intestinal fortitude displayed by Mahinda Rajapakse, Gothaphaya Rajapakse and Gen. Sarath Fonseka.

[I think when the war is over; we must take the best brains and smart operators from the SLDF/SLP/CID to produce a shadow intelligence/quick response group (similar to FBI, KGB operatives) specifically targeting to weed-off non-violent separatism or any armed struggle against an elected government. MR should campaign his next election with clear message asking a mandate to constitutionalise what ever the powers and legislature required to do that. OPERATIONS of this unit must only be within our shores. We must acquire state-of-the-art know-how and establish a defense institution (University) to do R&D in this sector and be the most resourceful unit in SAARC region. Must get the top students in each discipline of study and pay them a top dollar to retain them within borders. GoSL must not let, numerous organizations evolved around the world in addressing this national question (like key-board worriors here) ever to die-off after the successful conclusion of this war against separatism. GoSL must find a way to intigrate these huge networks to mak Lanka Matha safe and protected.]

Agreed, but with appropriate safeguards against the emergence of a totalitarian undemocratic state. That is where the 4,000,000 man National Guard I proposed comes in. The entire population, trained and organized to protect both our nation's integrity and our freedoms, will be an insurmountable barrier either to a coup-detat by the large standing army, or any external or internal enemies. To ensure this, every effort should be made to instill a sense of enduring patriotism in the National Guard..as in Israel. They should be inducted into service in a moving candle light ceremony on the heights of Balane' where one invading army was crushed to extinction.

Rana said...

Samana, mate.

Many things including HANTHANE KANDU WETIYA, MAHAWELI NADIYA, LOVER'S LANE, ARTS THEATRE and MEI GAHA setting.

Widana said...

Wijayapala,

Long Ranger couldn't even understand anything that Mushe had written in his blog recently about the use of artillery.

Moshe is a good sort if he stops pretending to be an armchair general.
Your posts on the other hand in addition to having as much errors, are irrelevant to this blog, and starting to get boring. I have read them so far out of curiosity about your background, and I am starting to think Asithri is right. So please start your own blog to spread your bullshit.

Sinhala namak thibbata moota sinhala baha kiyalath therenawa. Kagen hari ahagena wachana kipayak therum gannawa wagey.

Pansilu said...

Master who are you?

Very familier style!

SP > Master > SP !!!!

Pansilu said...

Master,

Asithri me be right!

Moshe and Wijayapala me be wrong some times!!

No body is perfect!!!

Why don't you leave them alone, because all three of them doing their best, we can't ask for more.

If you like to contribute, do your bit also!

hemantha said...

Moshe,
The government will loose the budget only if UNP(D) goes back to UNP. If they return then UNP should not go for an election. (And if they don't UNP don't get an election)

Saman said...

Ananda-USA,

Thanks brother for your detail response. We both are pretty much on the same track, I guess.

Let me clarify your concern,

/But I am rather puzzled by your blowing hot and cold alternately./

Mate, two things kept me interested on this course (I call national question) over the last 30years (78-08).
1. Tamil seperatism
2. racism (from all sides)

I firmly believe we need to cull both to succeed. It can only be done by proper govenance, legislature and accountability to law and order.

I have never stepped out of these two guides. When rushing through lines and taking segments a bit out of context - many bloggers feels things are a bit out of line.

If you ever felt I was "blowing cold" probably I was addressing #2 from ourside with perticular reference to an event quite familier to us. When you felt, I was "blowing hot" that could have been due to #1 and when seperatists advocating #2.

For example, on that event, you and Moshe were marginally different to my thinking especially taking collective responsibility as a nation on #2. On the same account, Wijayapala called me racist (and my mother fed me kassippu when I was small)when I declared TN is where tamil homeland must be and 95% of street sweepers in TN are Tamils.

I hope this clarifies your concern.

Moshe Dyan said...

hemantha,

yes. simply put it!

i think there will not be any hick-ups; the budget will pass through.

Pansilu said...

Asithri to C Demiris
-----------------------

Wow! Sounds like another Portuguese rapist/arsonist out to devour our Motherlanka!

Whore-bitch…do you want me to tell you what my ancestors used to do to captured Portuguese “soldadts” in our proud down-south Ruhuney? I bet not!
-------------------------
Wijayapala to Sam Perera
--------------------------
Yes, I can see that my posts don't hold a candle to the above thought-provoking analysis of your fellow "defense enthusiast." Can you answer the burning question what Dumb-Arse's ancestors did to your ancestors?
-----------------------

Wijayapala, you have been naughty again, trying to set up Sam against Asithri but Sam ducked the Q.

Now, we will have to ask Asithri the answer!

what your ancestors used to do to captured Portuguese “soldadts” in your proud down-south Ruhuney?

I will wait....

wijayapala said...

CD,

Here was Sam not too long ago on DN:

Sam Perera said...
wijayapala,

I find your political views to be very interesting. I understand that you are a Tamil Sri Lankan? If you don't mind, I would like to know your general political affiliation as far as the current war is concerned.


????? Is this the same Sam??? Is someone impersonating him now?

Alas, the profile IDs check out- the same Sam who wanted me to talk politics is now shrieking against talking politics (or defense matters). Schizophrenia again hits those closest to us....

CASC said...

Some strange news from India. The level of professionalism in the Indian police establishment seems to be very low.


"And a day after India's top law enforcement official apologized for security "lapses" that allowed the gunmen to rampage through Mumbai, there were new embarrassments — this time with holes in the prime minister's security.

Plice preparing for a visit of Prime Minister Manmohan Singh near Calcutta hired high-school children for the equivalent of $2.50 each to sit in trees for the day and look out for suspicious people.

Local police chief L.N. Meena defended using children in the prime minister's security detail, saying there were too many trees in the area and not enough policemen.

"The area is full of trees, so to check them to see if there were any anti-social elements or anyone making mischief, we employed the youths," he said.

Television footage showed dozens of the youngsters perched in trees, with yellow paper badges that read "security pass" pinned on their chests.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081206/ap_on_re_as/as_india_shooting

wijayapala said...

Dear Sam

"The post re. “Portuguese” was about Portuguese “soldadts” or Portuguese invading soldiers who raped, plundered, and lay waste to Motherlanka over 500 years ago!"

It's official- your ancestors were rapists and plunderers who ruined Mother Lanka. You seem more open to this topic than Brahmi inscriptions or defense budgets, so perhaps we should explore this further?

Pansilu said...

Wijayapala,

First you made Sam copped out of the blog.

Now you are trying to keep him out for ever.

What is the game you are trying to play?

wijayapala said...

Dear Pansilu

"Wijayapala, you have been naughty again, trying to set up Sam against Asithri but Sam ducked the Q."

Hey I wasn't the one who called Sam's ancestors rapists and plunderers. In fact I didn't say anything against Sam or his ancestry until he started freaking out and going schizo, asking for my political views and then telling me to get my own blog (not very nicely either!).

Virtually none of the posts here have any bearing on what's going on in the Wanni these days. Just foul language, hurrahs about the SLA's advance, Peter & Co. pissing in their pants etc. So why single me out?

Bhairav said...

[It's official- your ancestors were rapists and plunderers who ruined Mother Lanka.]

Portuguese were worst colonial power of all, ask anyone in Brazil.

Pansilu said...

Wijayapala,

Hmmmm.....

Some times you sound like sinhala marxist.

let me think....

Dr. Wickramabahu Karunaratne?

or tamil marxist.

Pro. Kumar David?

I am sure you are against present GOSL and LTTE both but you are not like a UNP lover also!

Can you give me a clue!

Sam Perera said...

wijayapala,

Many people talk about political matters here. However, they don't try to change the focus of the blog. Earlier days, you looked like a sane man who brings in some sense. More you talked the more it is clear that your intentions are otherwise. In a very short time, instead of creating a blog for your political agenda, you have become a parasite in a defence blog.

I repeat, please create your own blog to discuss the these issues. I will be there to agree or disagree on issues. Don't be a parasite.

wijayapala said...

Dear Master,

"Your posts on the other hand in addition to having as much errors, are irrelevant to this blog, and starting to get boring. I have read them so far out of curiosity about your background, and I am starting to think Asithri is right. So please start your own blog to spread your bullshit."

If I make any errors, then you are free to point them out and make me the fool. I take that risk whenever I post because I'll learn something if I'm wrong. However, it seems that the people here who don't like my posts haven't really exposed my lack of knowledge. Instead I see a lot of whining and bleating, and more of the same from you it seems.

You can think whatever you'd like, although it would be funny watching you try to be Dumb-Arse's protege (wouldn't reflect very nicely on you). Given that this is not your blog, I should tell you that I'm not going anywhere. If you don't like what I write, you're free to ignore my posts, or find another blog.

"Sinhala namak thibbata moota sinhala baha kiyalath therenawa. Kagen hari ahagena wachana kipayak therum gannawa wagey."

mata nam kawuruth kiyanne Wijayapala. mehe ingrisi akuru liyannata no kaemati nisa Sinhala wacana liyanna nae. Tharaha venne epa.

Widana said...

Pansilu, I have nothing to do with SP, he can speak for himself.

Bhairav said...

If anyone thought that modayas can ruin this country beyond someone's imagination, i would say British should have ruled this country bit more. What we have really achieved in the post-British years? Lets say if British ruled SL until what they had done in Hong Kong, we may have 3 times better of Hong Kong or two times better of Singapore. What see now is two time worse of Somalia.

Sam Perera said...

pansilu,

Bahu, Kumar David, Kumar Rupasinghe are the fringe lunatic failed socialists in Sri Lanka with no serious political backing. There is handful of followers in SL for these people. I have met a few of such lunatics in the past. These are the religious equivalent of Jehovah's Witnesses. Wijayapala can be just one of such follower. I say this because, they too have the same parasitic ability to latch on to unwelcome places like wijeyapala.

wijayapala said...

Pansilu

"Some times you sound like sinhala marxist.
Dr. Wickramabahu Karunaratne?
or tamil marxist.
Pro. Kumar David?
"

Don't like either one of them- too much in the weeds even for my taste. I'm not a Marxist either.

"I am sure you are against present GOSL and LTTE both but you are not like a UNP lover also!"

I am anti-LTTE but criticize the GoSL when they do dumb things. Nobody is a UNP lover these days.

"Can you give me a clue!"

Sure. I used to post as "Taraki" on TLA.

"SP > Master > SP"

If you mean SP from TLA, then I would have to disagree. The SP I knew had a lot more insight than the fellow posting here.

Sam Perera said...

wijayapla,

"mata nam kawuruth kiyanne Wijayapala. mehe ingrisi akuru liyannata no kaemati nisa Sinhala wacana liyanna nae. Tharaha venne epa."

Nice try wijayapala. Please show what you wrote to one of your Sinhala buddies for corrections. Nevertheless, I admire your ability to communicate in a third language.

wijayapala said...

Dear Sam,

"Many people talk about political matters here. However, they don't try to change the focus of the blog."

I didn't try to change the focus of the blog- people responded to what I wrote, which in turn was in response to what the Dumb-Arses wrote about Tamil conspiracies.

If you don't like what I have to say, then simply ignore me or install sithsala's program to block me out. I certainly don't give a damn what you think.

Sam Perera said...

wijayapala the blog parasite,

Please I beg you. Show mercy on us. Please take your political propaganda to some other blog of your own without being a parasite. Of course, you have the freedom to write and I have the freedom to respond. Yet, I beg you not to be a parasite.

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