Courtesy Defence.lk"Unfortunately, with a possible collaboration with the North Koreans, new possibilities may have already emerged for the LTTE. Unconfirmed reports had indicated for years that the LTTE was developing a small suicide submarine. This is not an impossible task considering the group managed to launch surprise attacks using light aircrafts smuggled into the country." (READ FULL ARTICLE HERE)
The Army's Task Force 3 has obtained conclusive evidence of this technology. We have also received credible information from sources within the Navy that the Dvora blown-up recently off the coast of Mulaitivu was by a suicide submerged vessel, possibly a human torpedo/water scooter.
The Dvora was patrolling seas 9 nautical miles off the coast of Mulaitivu when the blast occurred. Given the nature of the blast and the amount of explosives used and the distance from the coast to the FAC, a suicide frogman can be ruled out. A similar blast sunk a Navy Logistics Ship moored to the Trincomalee Naval Yard last year.
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Thanks SU,
sorry, I was de-railed for a moment to answer that swine, low lever scum back.
Chathuranga you are calling names. In that case I depend Sam. Please consider when you call names you call yourself the same name. Explain your idea without labelling people.
Thanks! Chathurang
Oh man, the massive human chain was total success in Toronto. It is hard to judge how many people participated but certainly 10s of thousands.
"Save the Tigers
[ PRWEB ][ Jan 30 13:28 GMT ]
Tamils for Obama believes that the U.S. should remove the Tamil Tigers from its list of terrorist organizations. Why should the U.S. reevaluate the role of the Tamil Tigers? Because they are not what their enemies claim they are"
yes most of them are dead. very funny indeed trying to get someone against terrorism on terrorist side.
What's next after "Tamils for Obama"?
"Bin Laden followers for Obama"?
LMAO at these dumbwits
பிரபாகரனை பிடிக்க முல்லைத்தீவை நோக்கி 3000 இந்திய இராணும்
1:59 PM, Posted by சாத்திரி, No Comment
3,000 இந்திய இராணுவத் துருப்புக்கள் இன்று மாலை இலங்கை நேரப்படி 4 மணிக்கு இலங்கையில் இறங்கியதாகவும், அவர்கள் அனைவரும் உடனடியாய் முல்லைத் தீவை நோக்கி புலிகளுடன் போரிட செல்வதாய் இந்திய தலைவர்கள் கூறுகின்றனர்.
பாரதிய பார்வேட் பிளாக் கட்சியின் தலைவர் திரு. நகைமுகன் தமிழ்ச் செய்தி மையத்துடன் தொடர்பு கொண்டு அதிர்ச்சி தரக்கூடிய தகவல்களை எம்முடன் பகிர்ந்து கொண்ட பொழுது, இராச பக்சே அறிவித்துள்ள 48 மணி நேர போர்நிறுத்தம் என்பது இந்தியாவிலிருந்து 3,000
இராணுவத்தினர் முல்லைத் தீவை நோக்கி பயணிப்பதாயும், அவர்கள் அனைவரும் முல்லைத் தீவிலுள்ள புலிகளுடன் நேரிடையாக போரிட செல்வதாயும் கூறினார். மேலும் அவர், இந்திய வெளிவிவகாரதுறை அமைச்சர் நமது தமிழக முதல்வருக்கு இன்று எழுதியுள்ள கடிதத்தில்
சொல்லப்படுவது உண்மையல்ல என்றும், ஐ.நா.வின் பொதுச்செயலாளர் திரு. பான் கீ மூன் டெல்லி வருவதற்கு முன்பே இலங்கைக்கு நமது படைகள் அனுப்பி வைத்துள்ளதாயும் கூறுகிறார்.
அவர் மேலும், அன்மையில் புலிகளால் தகர்க்கப்பட்ட கல்மடுஅணையின் போது ஏற்பட்ட இழப்பில் இந்திய படைகள் மிக மோசமாய் இறப்புகள் சந்;தித்ததாயும், அதை ஈடுகட்டவே, இன்றைக்கு 3,000 இந்தியப் படைகள் இலங்கை சென்றுள்ளதாய், இதற்கு தம்மிடம் ஆதரமுள்ளதாகவும் அதிர்ச்சி தகவலை கூறினார்.
இந்தத் தகவல் உறுதி செய்யும்;விதமாய், தமிழர் களத்தின் அமைப்பாளர் திரு. அரிமாவளவன் திருச்சியிலிருந்து நம்மை தொடர்பெடுத்து, 3,000 இந்திய துருப்புக்கள் இன்று மாலை இலங்கையில் இறங்கியுள்ளதாகவும், அவர்கள் அனைவரும் முல்லைத் தீவை நோக்கி போரிட செல்வதாயும் அதிர்ச்சி தகவலை நமக்கு சொன்னார்கள்.
புலிகளுக்கெதிரான போராய் அறிவித்த இலங்கை அரசு, ஒவ்வொரு நாளும், அங்குள்ள தமிழர்களை கொன்று வருவதும், பொது மக்களுக்கு உண்ண உணவோ, காயமடைந்தவர்களுக்கு மருந்துகளோ இல்லாத நிலையில், 3,000 இந்திய இராணுவத்தினர் அங்கு செல்வது, அங்கு அவதிப்படும் தமிழ் மக்களை கேள்விக்குள்ளாக்கும். இதை உடனடியாய் இங்கிருக்கும், நமது தமிழ் தலைவர்கள் தடுத்து நிறுத்துவது கடமையாகிறது.
Why don't you guys down under have a barbecue next to LTTE fans having a hunger strike?
Perhaps some of you can fry wada as well.
[ReallyCold... said...
Why don't you guys down under have a barbecue next to LTTE fans having a hunger strike?
Perhaps some of you can fry wada as well.]
lol good one :)))
3,000+ Indian army personnels are already landed in SL in order to be deployed for Mullai battle where they believe that they can capture VP. All know why there was 48 hr ceasefire announcement from the GoSl, in fact, ceasefire was in words, there was already few dozen civilian casualties from SLA shelling today.
It seems Indian coolies haven't learned its lesson yet.
Forgive me for preaching:
I change the last sentence.
It is better to explain your idea without labelling people.
Thanks Chathuranga
With all these protest now we're in a position of strength. Whichever country we protest in that doesnt support LTTE, we will build Eelam there.
You thought Obama inauguration had a large crowd? Demonstrations in Toronto had 18 million people, countying all those in and around city.
This will go down in history. They all held up little pieces of cardboard saying:
"Stop killing LTTE, stop genocide"
"Civilians dying help LTTE release civilians"
"Do you want to see us setting fire to ourselves?"
"Canada, the new Ezham"
SU,
my dear brother,
I call names after lot of deliberations internally my self. That swine is like a pest, I tried hard to avoid the bastard, including change of names but his bastardly nature, he use d to come after me. No, I will turn back and face the abominable snowmen myself.
I am going to concentrate only on him from now on. I will finish him off or worst, for better first. I got Asithri inot a MOU the way I want. This little scum is nothing but a lowest level gutter worm that has to be eliminated like LTTP scrums.
With all due respect,
I do not agree. You are not talking, only your anger is talking. I happen to believe that you are much better than this.
[Swranajith Udana said...
With all due respect,
I do not agree. You are not talking, only your anger is talking. I happen to believe that you are much better than this.]
why dont you open up a private therapy session?
SU,
You are responding to "fake bhairav".
cheers.
I just watched MIA interview posted on the link above. Her claims are disturbing and a basket full of white lies. Please do something or start a petition campaign against here at this site. We need to clean our name ‘Sri Lanka’.
http://www.petitiononline.com/create_petition.html
M.I.A., the 2008 Grammy and Oscar nominated singer is using her nominations as a platform to condemn Sri Lanka and brain wash people around the world saying there is a genocide in Sri Lanka.
Sri Lankan government is trying to wipe out this world banned ruthless Terrorist organization called LTTE. There have been some civilian causalities. The world news media has never reported there is a genocide in Sri Lanka. In fact, over 50% of the Tamils are living where they are not the majority and civilian causalities are where LTTE is operating with child soldiers, sophisticated weapons, submarines, and weaponized air planes.
M.I.A. obviously has a bias towards LTTE who is the largest child kidnapper in the continent and some of the children are being used as suicide bombers. LTTE has assassinated two democratic national leaders so far including India’s bellowed PM charismatic Rajiv Gandhi.
Let’s try to condemn M.I.A.’s attempt to use prestigious Grammy and Oscar platform to launch her propaganda campaign.
We wish her and her baby well at the nominations.
உழைத்திடும் பிறவியும், ஓய்வெடுக்கும் உல்லாசியும்!
கலைஞர் கடிதம்
உடன்பிறப்பே,
கடுமையான முதுகுவலி, விலாப்புற வலிகளால் பாதிக்கப்பட்டு மருத்துவமனையில் இருக்கும் என்னிடம் முன்னாள் முதல்வரும், இந்நாள் எதிர்க்கட்சித் தலைவருமான அம்மையார் ஜெயலலிதா சில கேள்விகளைக் கேட்டு, அதனை அறிக்கையாக வெளியிட்டிருக்கிறார். அவர் கேட்டுள்ள கேள்விகளும், அவற்றுக்கு என் பதில்களும், விளக்கங்களும் வருமாறு:
கேள்வி: தமிழ் மண்ணில் ராஜீவ் காந்தி அவர்கள் கொடூரமான முறையில் கொலை செய்யப்பட்டதை கருணாநிதி ஆதரிக்கிறாரா? அப்படியானால் ராஜீவ் காந்தியின் காங்கிரஸ் கட்சியுடன் கூட்டணி வைத்துக் கொண்டு, மைனாரிட்டி அரசின் முதலமைச்சராக பதவியில் ஒட்டிக் கொண்டிருப்பது கருணாநிதிக்கு வெட்கமாக இல்லையா? மனவுறுத்தலாக இல்லையா?
Asithri, I know you verbally abused me misrepresenting me as well. Show that you really care and I ask that you take the leadership to start a campaign against MIA. Same goes to anyone who said negative things for me.
LTTE are holding civilians because they need to be protected. Would you not protect you're sons and daughters if someone was shooting at them? Similarly, LTTE is the mother of tamil nation, they have been the guardian and they will continue to protect them forever or until SLA offensives start next week.
Sometimes having artillery guns inside civilians are necessary to protect them, just like SLA use camouflage to protect their troops.
Dear Bhairav,
"3,000 இந்திய இராணுவத் துருப்புக்கள் இன்று மாலை இலங்கை நேரப்படி 4 மணிக்கு இலங்கையில் இறங்கியதாகவும்,"
That was pretty hilarious, but Nachchikuda Mahen's story about Pottu defecting to the SLA was better.
SU,
soory mate, some people like the swine I reffered only understand one langauge. I am ready to go the length reired to expose the bastard, if he insists.
Or I will keep my cool. It is up to him, giving the choice to him, leat I can do!
pottu has defected, GOSL is yet to declare it in public
3000 dead is also true, GOSL is yet to own up to it
18 million people in Toronto is also true, you'll see that in news
/Kumari said...
I used to be Sinhalese before I came to the blog.
Now I need to find a new decent race to make me fee like home.
You boys are so nasty.
Ane katha katha kiyanna ayi?/
If (IF) you were sinhalese now also you are sinhalese no matter you came or not to the blog.
Anyways, you never said you are female (and probably you are not) - and it doesn't matter. In a blog every one is a blogger whose identity is hidden and no one knows any one here is male, female or in between and it doesn't matter.
BTW, thanks to you some are having orgasms.. ha ha
/Sam Perera said...
Chathuranga aka Pansilu,
Are you back in the same old business?/
SamP
Actually, Chathuranga came already collapsed and later I checked the ID and had no surprise. People are not perfect and some people do get treatment when they know some thing is wrong with them but some others choose not to. We can't do any thing about that but we have to live with them too. I know you like to go after terrorist supporters but you don't have to go after nut cases. Hope you understand - after all we want to live in peace.
haffaa, me bhairav kiyana boru wala hatiyata gal neme concrete unath palenawa..
mungen wada novi hoda conersation ekak karanna nam sinhalen katha karamu :)
puthu jnc ekath apae kastiya gihin iwarai..
48hr truce kiwwata attacks walata paavichchi karannae naththae heavy mortar,MBRL,arti witharai..
team walin gihin gahana eka digatama yanawa.. Visuamadu walata kilometer 3 issarahata gihin innae 58 eka
duzz
kohenda info?
magae relation kenek gen thamai..
habai visuamadu story eka nam news walatath kiwwa
duzz
News says.. 58 is (2km) close to Pu'pu from north and also 2 km to coast. If so nearly 50% of tiny pink peelaam in the map should be already under SLA..? Any comment?
Ninja said...
Actually, Chathuranga came already collapsed and later I checked the ID and had no surprise.
Ninja, Yes....as you said... those posts came up Collapsed by Profile ID in my browser also.
Sam Perera's posts on these matters serves a very useful purpose, by periodically identifying the culprits and their reincarnations.
I used Sam's lists to initially set up my Collapse Comments, and I keep updating the lists as Sam identifies new handles as incarnated pests. It is very useful to know who they are. So, Sam is helping a lot of us keep out of unnecesary trouble and effort.
Thank you, Sam Perera!
machan,
i was telling about the 59th commandos at puthu. i didnt know that the 58th guys are also close.
it seems that the war is nearly over.!
[[Ninja said...
duzz
News says.. 58 is (2km) close to Pu'pu from north and also 2 km to coast. If so nearly 50% of tiny pink peelaam in the map should be already under SLA..? Any comment?]]
Really?
According to the map it is not possible to enter puthu from north without crossing safe zone.
Bhairav,
90% of the tamils in SL are in gov. controlled ares.
Nisal
Its hard to believe but it was in news.. (check TRP @rivira). They can move alone the coast and yes have to cross the no fire zone.. but its hard without a supply route..
guys did u see this?
what will be d reason behind this???
lost of leadership?? (VP)
LTTE appoints Pathmanathan as head of international relations
[TamilNet, Friday, 30 January 2009, 23:51 GMT]
The leadership of the Liberation Tigers of Tamileelam (LTTE) has recently named Selvarasa Pathmanathan, a high profile representative of the movement, as the Head of a newly established Department of International Relations, sources close to the LTTE said on Saturday.
Mr. Pathmanathan will be representing the movement in any future peace initiatives and will be the primary point of contact for engaging with the international community, according to a letter sent to the various international actors by the LTTE's Department of International Relations.
Pathmanathan will be working abroad with required mandate from the LTTE leadership, according to the letter.
LTTE's Poltiical Head B. Nadesan, when contacted by TamilNet, confirmed that Mr. Pathmanathan has been engaged in correspondence with international actors.
siwhela,
must be the replacement for balakumar.
Nisal, Ninja, and Duzz,
Rivira is the only one saying 2 km to puthu for 58.
i have noticed that Rivira was exaggerating war news in the past too. so i'm not quite sure abt that yet.
Monitor activities of pro-LTTE Sri Lankan MPs: Yasodha
From The Hindu
CHENNAI: Congress Deputy Leader in the Assembly D. Yasodha on Friday asked the Centre and the State government to monitor the activities of pro-Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam Sri Lankan Members of Parliament in the State.
Participating in the debate on the Governor’s address, Ms. Yasodha said that these MPs were camping in Tamil Nadu and trying to create confusion.
They were trying to make the Centre appear guilty on the issue, levelling unnecessary charges against the State government and isolating the Congress.
Noting that the Congress had lost its leader Rajiv Gandhi on the issue, she wondered how it was fair to humiliate deceased leaders and Tamils living here. She recalled that when she was an MLA in the 1980s, Rs.4 crore was given to the Sri Lankan Tamils [after a resolution in the Assembly]. This could not have been possible without the permission of Rajiv Gandhi [who was the then Prime Minister]. Even now, it was only with the financial support of the Central and State governments that the refugee camps were being run.
When Pattali Makkal Katchi leader G.K. Mani condoled the death of Muthukumaran, who immolated himself on Thursday to protest against the killing of Tamils in Sri Lanka, Finance Minister K. Anbazhagan said such acts should not be encouraged.
Mr Mani replied that his party founder S. Ramadoss had made such an appeal to the youth.
Pointing out that Andhra Pradesh and Karnataka governments were developing the sectors of agriculture and irrigation in a big way, the PMK leader said there was no such plan by the State government. Instead, only freebies were being offered. The Governor’s address was disappointing.
R. Viswanathan (AIADMK) alleged that the Election Commission ordering the transfer of police officers in the run-up to the Thirumangalam by-election pointed to irregularities. Public Works and Law Minister Durai Murugan denied the charge and said such transfers were nothing new.
When the AIADMK was in power, a police commissioner was transferred.
Concerns of 'Piece' Mongers
S. Akurugoda
From Lankaweb.com
"The war is coming to an end and the LTTE's surrogates and indirect proxies, foreign funded NGOs have been shown by our advancing troops to have substantially helped the LTTE. Although the public is not fully aware of the contents of the "Interim Report of the Select Committee of Parliament for Investigation of the Operations of Non Governmental Organisations (NGO)" and their Impact, we have read a press release issued by one such NGO the National Peace Council (NPC) that appeared in the Sri Lankan Guardian dated 23 December 2008.
It quotes from the relevant sections referring to the NPC: "It too is an NGO operating to propagate federalism. An organiser of the National Peace Council had once attended a protest in Geneva and also had made a speech in a rally held later which ended with the singing of the song of emancipation of the LTTE. This organisation, which questions the need for sovereignty, has mentioned about a sovereignty divided into two and of two very close countries. The National Peace Council had engaged in a movement to brainwash the people of Sri Lanka which is very similar to the activities of the Berghof Foundation. They had acted very enthusiastically about federalism." The English language in this quotation is clumsy as evidently the original NGO Report would have been in Sinhala and then translated.
The NPC press release claims that the comments on the NPC are unjust, and do not give a proper representation of NPC objectives and work. Indeed the Select Committee is 'unjust' because it does not give a 'proper' and sufficient representation of NPC antinational objectives.
Let us go through the true objectives and work of the NPC.
The vision statement of the NPC considers the LTTE as an integral part of 'the solution'. Clearly the NPC wants to whitewash the LTTE, a banned organisation in Sri Lanka and many key countries, and bring it out as a civilised entity.
NPC, whose annual budget is said to be in excess of 70 millions SL Rupees or 5, 000, 000 Euros, is now funded by the Catholic Agency for Overseas Development (CAFOD), European Union (EU), Norwegian Agency for Development Co-operation (NORAD) and Swedish International Development Agency (SIDA) in addition to several other foreign agencies of the US, Canada and Germany (based on the information provided in NPC website).
The website of the above funding agency the Catholic Agency for Overseas Development gives CAFOD's mission as promoting human development and social justice in witness to Christian faith and Gospel values (emphasis mine). The NPC, Berghof and their ilk should actually be categorised as lobbyist NGOs. Depending entirely on foreign governments and agencies they carry on the White Man's Burden and have a function similar to Christian missionaries during the high colonial era.
A comprehensive discussion of the motives and work of NPC and its executive director are given in the Sections ' National Peace Council-A War Front for Propaganda' (Page 116-121) and 'Jehan Perera: Sovereignty and Democracy at any Cost' (Page 180-181) of a book authored by Dr Susantha Goonatilake Recolonisation, Foreign Funded NGOs in Sri Lanka. The findings of Dr. Goonatilake based on tight documentation, show that according to the NPC their programme participants were 'targets' (the words used by the NPC) who were selected to be 'educated' in NPC's ideology and paid to attend these meetings. The book illustrates how a complex history and complicated situation in Sri Lanka was simplified into a perspective fitting the NPC's declared pro LTTE views. The details of the NPC organiser participating in an LTTE rally is given in the book and had been taken from a Tiger publication which also has a picture of the NPC marching and going in procession with the LTTE. Details of how the brainwashing is being done by the NPC and their ilk are given in the book quoting only the documents of these NGOs.
Anyone going through the media releases and the writings of the NPC (apart from their other activities), since its inception in 1995, will see the extent of damage done to the sovereignty of our nation as it promoted the LTTE as an integral part of their so-called solutions. They were attempting to cover-up the LTTE terror campaign including the dastardly attacks on Katunayake Airport and the attack on Pakistan High Commissioner among many other grisly assaults. It was denouncing the Government's effort to eradicate terrorism, placing the military capacity of the GOSL on an equal footing with the LTTE and trying to project the LTTE as invincible. As part of its antinational agenda it attacked Sinhalese especially Buddhist monks who were against terrorism, branding people with opposing views as Sinhala Extremists.
They were also one of the key promoters of Ranil Wickramasinghe as he handed over to the LTTE large sections of Sri Lanka to govern. Their sympathies during the Presidential and Parliamentary elections were not difficult to trace. In their desire to break up Sri Lanka they equated the mythical Tamil Eelam nation to Kosovo. They justified international intervention (including through the UN and US). In an article in the Daily News justifying the arrival of Indian troops 20 years ago Jehan Perera gleefully said that the Indian Army will teach the Sri Lankan government a lesson. They have been calling for solutions manufactured from the outside spending billions of Rupees got from foreign donors which money should have gone to the poor people in the country. These piece mongers and their colonial masters in the West were behind the propaganda on behalf of Tamil racism in general and the LTTE in particular. Without the active backing of NGOs, LTTE propaganda would not have been effective.
As Kath Noble pointed out in an article 'Let there be oversight' (The Island dated December 31, 2008), "NGOs can't and shouldn't be allowed to self-regulate. They want to believe that the money they receive belongs to those who have given it, so pleasing their donors is enough. But it isn't. Funds raised in the name of the people of this country, playing on their sufferings and undertaking to solve their problems, are rightfully theirs".… "There are absolutely no democratic controls over public money that is handled by NGOs".
"Employees (NGO) may believe what they want, but they don't have any particular right to use public money to ram their beliefs down the throats of people who might rather spend it on doctors and teachers, for example. And they especially don't have any particular right to get funds from people overseas who may have their own agendas for this country. .." 'They instead offer weak explanations as to why they are the only people who don't need any oversight. It is shameful!"
While maintaining a tight lip over the atrocities committed by the LTTE and issues of human rights violations by the terror outfit including the use of children combatants, use of civilians as a human shield etc, these self styled human rights and peace champions including the NPC are engaged in subversion. Whenever terrorists and their supporters are in trouble they actively and systematically engage in tarnishing the image of the country and its security forces. Their activities parallel the LTTE's global propaganda campaign against the Sinhalese, especially Sinhalese Buddhists.
The very same people, in a most recent statement appearing in Daily Mirror dated 20 January 2009 under the heading 'The mixed message of the military solution', have made an attempt to compare the cost of the military solution against the utterly failed 'peace process of 2002' which handed over large chunks of territory to the LTTE. This article has to be seen as a large ditch effort to prevent the Armed Forces from regaining the country. Apart from the high cost of the so-called peace process and the 'public money' being wasted in millions of rupees on 'peace mongers', how many valuable and innocent lives were lost by standing for terrorism and allowing the terrorist to get militarily stronger under the name of a pseudo, moneymaking PEACE process?
People in their right mind would understand that praising terror and condemning the forces against terror will not achieve peace and harmony. Praising terror of course has been very profitable to these NGOs. These false prophets should be made accountable for what they said in the past and their misdeeds.
As Rajpal Abeynayake quite rightly identified in his article 'The cost of war and peace' in the Lakbimanews of last Sunday, a successful military action against terrorism may deprive the day jobs of those waging PEACE. Losing their lucrative jobs must be of real concern to them. But much more important, such persons who had supported the LTTE should be brought under the full weight of the Sixth Amendment to the Constitution. This bans supporting separatism in the country. The NPC and similar ilk should be immediately investigated. The evidence for their crimes is easy to find, one has only to read the antinational statements made by these organisations."
guys,
my source cud not confirm the 58th being in Puthu north..
seems like rivira had a mixup with 58 and 55.
591 is going along the shoreline.. maybe a brigade of the 55th is operating in the general area of puthu north
Guys
I saw the same claim - 58 in Pudu north, in divaina too. Anyway its hard to believe.
Rocky
TRP use some rhetoric language but he is factually correct unless MI/his sources are themselves wrong.
Anyway seems some thing wrong with this news - 58 closing Pudu and east coast.
Also, DN said 55 moved to Chalei. Seems this is also not quite true..!
Mahen (well, with 99% probability he is our man.. fooling diasspora) said LTTE withdrew from Pudu.
Massive human chain in Toronto-clip
>>Massive human chain in Toronto-clip
Only 10,000 out of 300,000 Tamils in Ontario showed up. That is like whopping 3% Tamils.
What a successful TFT (Terror-Friendly Tamil) protest.
Isurujosh,
"Peter Ratna, I thought your blog was open to opposite opinions."
No, unfortunately Peter does not have any balls (SU- see I did not call names!). Why don't you post what you wrote here so we can all laugh at him?
These people were standing at least 5 hours in -20'C severe cold weather, 10,000+ is just approximate # and it could be 20,000+. Bottom line is that message was sent in right ways.
Feb 19th will be biggest rally of all - Obama is coming to Ottawa, Canada.
New surprise developments are coming out of Tamilnadu. I think this is just a beginning.
http://www.citynews.ca/news/news_31515.aspx
Can you see 1000s there?
nisal,
ethana minimum laksa 5 kata wada hitiya..
mama hithannae api war eka nathara karanna oona :P
Wijey:
Assuming you meant my statement on Peter:
You may use it there if you think it fits.
Thanks!
Blogger Bhairav said...
LTTE are holding civilians because they need to be protected. Would you not protect you're sons and daughters if someone was shooting at them? Similarly, LTTE is the mother of tamil nation, they have been the guardian and they will continue to protect them forever or until SLA offensives start next week.
Sometimes having artillery guns inside civilians are necessary to protect them, just like SLA use camouflage to protect their troops.
So LTTP camouflage is Humans??
A human chain of 10 million or zillions of zillions does not justify suicidal killing or using civilains as defense armour.
"LTTE are holding civilians because they need to be protected."
in the above sentence, they = LTTE
Blogger Bhairav said...
No modaya
We demonstrate in London and Toronto not to achieve ezham but to get western support for our noble activities. If they dont support us we will all set fire to ourselves like that journo did in TN. Then we'll see if west could live without us.
Yes their western toilets will be stinking without you!!
dill,
you people just dont understand?
so frustrating trying to talk some common sense into you lot.
LTTE would prefer civilians to not be there but what are we suppose to do, get rid of them by force? If they act as a camouflage so be it, but the fact of the matter is that LTTE enjoy company of these tamils and are protecting them from the kindness of LTTE heart.
RC;
Cool mate. Then I am not in the list of counter arguments of yours. If you want to see my general perspective, pls keep reading the rest.
Swarnajith;
Re: Ignoring Pussycat comments.
It is a valid point that you make. Most ppl further state that there is a way to collapse unwanted comments [a tool introduced by Sithsala].
But the point stands that an average reader who goes through this blog sees their arguments, and at least they would go through the ones with bogus logic that justifies this fake "cause" of theirs. And for an independent user the grasp of perspective will be (pussycats+patriots)/2.
There are different approaches by many individuals on pussycat comments. Some think of using collapse comments and never to bother. Some read but ignore the hindrance. Some counter argue on their logical points and ignore the rest. Some reply every post theirs. Some even with vulgar.
I think we're all right on their own personal view.
My p-o-v is that the problem of SL is not caused by pussycats but diaspora. I think even pussycats are some victims, even their Fatpig, from the outsourcing diaspora who push this sadistic requirements of revenge and anger on them. I take on Diaspora on this grounds. I and few others analyze the diaspora, trying to understand what kind of monsters we have inside a homo-sapien flesh and skeleton. We reserve no rights or ethics for these sub-human maniacs in our analysis.
I invited our lads, not to engage directly most of the time but analyze. Not to comment at them, but about them. Most of their comments cannot be logically countered as they are so low intellectually. I am not a vulgar commenter. For my way, I do analyze them, and point out how low positioned they are to all the bloggers here.
Well, I called Peter as castle clown here, which started this line of debate sometime back. He sure is.
I am with the impression that we have an obligation to counter diaspora, who is the cause of our presence here. I respect you different P-O-V anyway.
Cheers.
[dil said...
Yes their western toilets will be stinking without you!!]
That just shows how little you know about tamils oversease. The only toilet I clean is my own thank you, and if somebody ever wants me to clean someone else's then they'd have to pay through the nose.
modaya
And the thing is there's only 4,000 Tamil Tiger soldiers in Sri Lanka, and if you want, you could just sneeze and wipe them out in a day. They're not that sophisticated with their weaponry and stuff like that -- the Sri Lankan government, which is a million soldiers big, can handle that.
So says the shameless knocked up tart MIA. Can you chaps spot how many lies were uttered in the two sentence above?
Cheers!
To whome it may concern!
//Actually, Chathuranga came already collapsed and later I checked the ID and had no surprise. People are not perfect and some people do get treatment when they know some thing is wrong with them but some others choose not to. We can't do any thing about that but we have to live with them too. I know you like to go after terrorist supporters but you don't have to go after nut cases. Hope you understand - after all we want to live in peace.//
Nobody invited you do any thing!, just mind your business without poking into others or I will take this to the next level with you two.
Guy FYI
My Grand Mother used to tell" only a picture of a Demala that U can trust"
The meaning is U can never trust a living Demala
[ She was very fluent in tamil as they used to have tamil servents and managed a tea plantation. In other words she know how they behave ]
So my Good freinds never trust or do not give a fuck about what they write.
Such as the protester numbers, KIA, MIA, place & the situ of the war etc.
They do not have any shame to come to this blog and eat their words again and again.
Sujeeva, I have noted that you make decent arguments. Of course we need to counter LTTE propaganda. I think we have not hired talented people to do that. Then again this propaganda to be effective we need to seek moral high ground.
Also, we need to do be able to distinguish well desinged propaganda directed to world at large and comments made to annoy us here just for sadistic pleasure. This latter kind deserves no attention and by just simply repeating our principles and discussing general issues we can inform the others who may fall prey on to this sadism.
Thanks Sujeeva
Sujeeva, I have noted that you make decent arguments. Of course we need to counter LTTE propaganda. I think we have not hired talented people to do that. Then again this propaganda to be effective we need to seek moral high ground.
Also, we need to do be able to distinguish well desinged propaganda directed to world at large and comments made to annoy us here just for sadistic pleasure. This latter kind deserves no attention and by just simply repeating our principles and discussing general issues we can inform the others who may fall prey on to this sadism.
Thanks Sujeeva
Cheers Chathuranga!
Please contact me via email.
Why do you think LTTE keep withdrawing and refuse to fight?
It's because we understand that there might be some civilians in SLA controlled areas and by firing at SL Army we might injure these tamils. Even if we leave just a scratch on a civilian, regardless of tamil or sinhalese, LTTE consider that a disgrace. So LTTE is doing its best to not tarnish its good name.
Biharav
Follwing is applied to U too. Which was addressed to Real before
Real
You guys are actually very good at toilet cleaning. Congrdulation of taking your carreer to the next level of advanced cleaning jobs such as licking white Asses such as Ur Hon Ms Susan Kramer, Scott & Bruce finn
These mother F can't do anything to GOSL. Tell them to stop the war in Gaza
Lot of propaganda in Aus, Uk, Canada etc. Who' the fuck giving attention to black bastereds carrying placards on the road. They would think they asking for increment in their Social welfare payments
Blogger Bhairav said...
That just shows how little you know about tamils oversease. The only toilet I clean is my own thank you, and if somebody ever wants me to clean someone else's then they'd have to pay through the nose.
modaya
I am not talking about Tamils in general. I am talking about LTTP supporters in overseas who are trying to save VPs ass by burning themselves. i.e. ppl like you. Western toilets will stink for sure without you guys. One toilet in toilet nadu is already stinking without that guy.. hahaha
Got that surinai?
Tamil National Alliance (TNA) expressed deepest grief and condolence to Muthukumar’s family and the people of Tamil Nadu along with the entire Tamils of the world for having laid his live in supreme sacrifice in support of the Eelam Tamils.
Bhairav said...
'Why do you think LTTE keep withdrawing and refuse to fight?
It's because we understand that there might be some civilians in SLA controlled areas and by firing at SL Army we might injure these tamils. Even if we leave just a scratch on a civilian, regardless of tamil or sinhalese, LTTE consider that a disgrace. So LTTE is doing its best to not tarnish its good name'
Are you out of your mind Bhairav? LTTP does not leave a scratch but blow ppl with bombs. remember Aranthalawa, Fort, Central Bank, Dehiwala railway??
Lick my puka..
Blogger Genocide ™ said...
Tamil National Alliance (TNA) expressed deepest grief and condolence to Muthukumar’s family and the people of Tamil Nadu along with the entire Tamils of the world for having laid his live in supreme sacrifice in support of the Eelam Tamils.
Yes TNA is preparing their next Peelam base in Toilet Nadu, that they are loosing in SL.
TNA is doing the groundwork in TN..
Thanks Genocide,
we should have more people like you here.
Now we must encourage other tamils to follow his lead and set fire to themselves for this noble cause.
I understand some of you might have children in that case just set fire to a small part of body with a lighter, for example little finger. I will be taking this route.
IF you're not brave like me to do that then set fire to your property.
Time has come tamil brothers, we cannot not act.
Bhairav said...
Thanks Genocide,
we should have more people like you here.
Now we must encourage other tamils to follow his lead and set fire to themselves for this noble cause.
'I understand some of you might have children in that case just set fire to a small part of body with a lighter, for example little finger. I will be taking this route.
IF you're not brave like me to do that then set fire to your property.
Time has come tamil brothers, we cannot not act.'
Tactical withdrawal from your sorry life??
"Sad" situation in Sri Lanka- US State Department
The US State Department has termed the situation in Sri Lanka as "Sad" and added that the US is working with UN organizations to try to provide whatever help they can to the affected people.
Responding to a question raised at the daily press briefing of the US State Department, Friday, the acting spokesman Robert Wood the US hopes the war will come to an end and the Sri Lankan people can begin to think about a better life for themselves and their children.
"You know, of course, we are very concerned about the situation on the ground in Sri Lanka, and we’re working through UN organizations to try to provide whatever help that we can. It’s a very, very sad situation, especially some of the attacks against the media. We’ve been very concerned about that. And it’s a longstanding conflict, you know, going on over 25 years. You know, we’d like to see just a better outcome. And hopefully, at some point, you know, this war will come to an end and, you know, the Sri Lankan people can, you know, begin to think about a better life for themselves and their children," he said.
Ninja, Nisal and Duzz,
even DW confirmed that chalai has been taken. (in his comments as a response to cj on the same thread) but rupavahini showed yday that the 8 feet sand bund covering chalai town, which is yet to be broken. so obviously these rumors are wrong and unfortunately DW and DN also wrong in chalai case.
Killing oneself by fire or cyanide does not give the right to use civialians as defense armour or kill innocent ones.
[dil said...
Are you out of your mind Bhairav? LTTP does not leave a scratch but blow ppl with bombs. remember Aranthalawa, Fort, Central Bank, Dehiwala railway??]
are you sure those things werent done by your opposition party? Did you find a LTTE uniform in amongst the rubble? No.
So then why blame LTTE?
LTTE is a peace loving, civilian loving democratic organization. Tamils for Obama will explain this to Obama in detail then we'll see how MR will fight against the might of USA.
More and more to display at "Dayata Kirula" :p
"Troops of the 58th division recovered two 120mm mortar guns, three 81mm mortar guns and a 60mm mortar gun from Vishvamadu in Mullaitivu."
/Troops of the 58th division recovered two 120mm mortar guns, three 81mm mortar guns and a 60mm mortar gun from Vishvamadu in Mullaitivu./
wow.. I think they have 10+ 122mm heavy (artillery) guns.. guess this is not those ones..
It took 12+ months to clear east after capturing (even now SLA find hidden arms..) It might take months to fully clear these areas..
Bhairav,
'Tamils for Obama will explain this to Obama in detail then we'll see how MR will fight against the might of USA.'
Yes the only chance for you guys is to lick the arse of Obama. But nothin happens man.
Keep dreaming. the while world knows who LTTPers are.
Bhairav,
'we'll see how MR will fight against the might of USA.'
We've seen how he fought against the world best Terrorist Organization. Keep your mouth shut.
Ninja,
What if we send few guys from Ratnapura to North?? "Meka maha miniran pathalakata wadaa watinwa".
Our peelam bloggers are getting mad. Happy day dreaming peelamists!
/What if we send few guys from Ratnapura to North??/
To find buried weapons... actually if SLA spread a rumor that there is gems in K'chi people from Rathnapura and elsewhere go there and dig it like hell.. withing one week all the buried stuff will be on the ground..
Mahen
Did you demote him from Col to LtCol? due to poor performance recently? I think LTTE did their best - they didn't do any thing wrong; its just SLA performed far batter than their past and LTTE..
Also, I think he joined LTTE in 83 not 93..?
Finally after 3 decades, we can afford to ignore the voice of pro-LTTE diaspora.
Why some of you guys are busy with addressing the few such left here.
They are no longer a factor in Sri Lanka and please spend your times on something valuable.
Hillucinating Sri Lankans:
We know this WILL NEVER happen:
[Jan 31, Colombo: Sri Lanka Minister of Construction and Engineering Services Rajitha Senarathna says President Mahinda Rajapaksa who is on the verge of wiping out the world's most ruthless terrorist organization and bringing peace is apt for the Nobel Peace Prize in future. ]
Who is disagreeing with me?
Common Mahen
How come LtCol and Brigadier mess up be typos? (It can be accepted if it were Col and LtCol which is not the case.) LTTE didn't announce such a promotion so far? Are you VP to promote and demote people like this?
Also, you may add to your news that "there is absolutely no impact for the LTTE military wing as LTTE no more need their artillery unit as there is no enough space to fire (or even bury) the heavy guns. In fact, LTTE tactical withdrawals were planned by the LTTE military panel so that there is no effect for the artillery unit even if Bhanu is dead."
Guys,
Anything, on MR’s surprise announcement? When he is going to do that? Today, or on Monday?
And you still say he joined LTTE in 93??
Ninja, nice one!
Mahen knows no one visits ETF. So he has to post condolences here!!
When Mahen the madayan reports the breaking news in his blog, the same news is already been reported somewhere else in world wide web before he reports.
So, better you give the link than making poi kathai..
mee LTTE kaarayagae site ekey witharai tiyenne bhanu ta baba hambawelaaya kiyala..
kaata hari confirm karanna puluwanda
Heylo Tamilzh Ezyham peoples!
Welcome back to Socialist Pluralist Republic of SL!! Your contry embraces you in its bosom with joy and happiness!
B#1
Actually it was not any where else.. I don't know about tamil sites though. So if the news is true (well, LTTE may not announce this.. but other media will..) then this Mahen has to be indeed a guy with LTTE connections or MI connections - not just a joker.
1 mile to kilinochchii bwaarrkk!!
LTTE for obama bwarrrk!!
LTTE for hillary bwarrrkk!!
LTTE for McCain Bwaarrkk!!
LTTE for Muthuwel Bwarrkk!!
LTTE for toilets Bwarrkk!!
Working overtime without sleep.
People, Eelamists in massive numbers will send this letter to statesmen around the world. It is our duty to make an organize effort to do a counter letter campaign.
I suggest someone on this blog create a database of email containing credible anti LTTE supporters and send them instructions on sending a letter to statesmen around the world explaining the motives of LTTE followers around the world.
Time is running out and LTTE can rally their support base to tarnish our image.
----------------------------------------------
Eelamists are working on this letter:
SAMPLE LETTER: Honourable John McKay,
Dear Sir,
The ethnic conflict in Sri Lanka has entered its deadliest phase. While the mainstream news media is reporting "military victories" by the Government of Sri Lanka, hundreds of Tamil millitants trapped in the war zone have not been killed by daily aerial bombing and shelling. Today the fake Regional Director of Health Services in Mullaitivu district issued an urgent appeal to the Government of Sri Lanka, the International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC), the United Nations and the international community for medical supplies. The emergency appeal stated that 300 civilians have been killed (big lie) and 1,000 are injured in areas with little or no medical supplies and only nine medical doctors providing services. There are 300,000 Tamil civilians displaced! however this number is overly exaggerated by the conflict in the North and many of them have been sent to "safe zones" created by the Government. However, the BBC quoted a Government official in Mullaitivu district reporting that 10 civilians were killed during the week of January 15. A recent New York Times article mentioned that a United Nations official, not authorized to speak with media, stated there have been at least 11 aerial attacks by the Government on hospitals inside areas in the North-East. It is clear that attacks are hitting civilian “safe zones" resulting in hundreds of deaths and injuries. Media reports on civilian deaths have been severely lacking. As the civilian death toll increases each day, it is becoming clear that Sri Lanka is holding true to its name as a country experiencing genocide, ranked by Genocide Prevention Project as one of the top eight countries in a "red alert" category. While the Government of Sri Lanka has banned all independent media, observers and NGOs from the conflict zone, we urge you, as our Member of Parliament, to represent your valuable Tamil constituents and use your resources to the best of your abilities to report, comment and take action on the humanitarian and human rights crisis that is plaguing Tamils civilians in Northern Sri Lanka. Please feel free to contact me for
further information. Please also note that these claims of genocide are fake.
Sincerely,------------- .
Well Well Well,
I just watched a video of LTTE’s UREA storage for making bombs. All sacks are marked Agriculture subsidy under Mahinda Chinthanaya. These are issued freely to GA and AGAs to distribute freely to farmers but LTTE stored it for bomb making purposes.
This clearly shows how LTTE is treating farmers, civilians and as a whole humans. The barbaric bastards should be roasted alive. I don’t know why SLG announced 48 hour truce with terrorists.
It is now or never, do not stop the war for any reason until all tiger cats skinned properly and roasted like tandoori chiken.
This is what Eelamists are asking from their followers:
"The quality of your letter is not important now, we need the quantity."
"We need to send them in large numbers"
"If you don't act now, you are indirectly supporting the genocide against your brothers and sisters by the Sri Lankan Army."
"If you are ready to let your own people killed, then just delete this email and carry on with your life. President Barack ObamaFAX, Ban Qi-Moon, Michael Ignatief, German forigen Minister"
[[B#1 said...
When Mahen the madayan reports the breaking news in his blog, the same news is already been reported somewhere else in world wide web before he reports.
So, better you give the link than making poi kathai..]]
May be Mahen can publish the Balakumar's obituary now. Then he will be the first to break the news..
Mahen has removed his post just now.
Anyway, my deepest sympathies.
aiyooo mahen ain karala..
comment ekak daanda giya witharai..
duzz,
me too.
Can someone list what our foreign Ambassadors are doing to counter LTTE propaganda campaign?
It is apparent MIA is leading the efforts through US national TVs.
Please write to Travis Smiley for his biased interview and letting one side of the story is aired through the media.
[[SF@LNP said..
Will be updating in a few hrs...HE might address the nation soon with some news...
might...its under consideration for the time being...
you will hear some very news which of course you heard before hand here if thats the case...:))]]
thama ara "pudume" iwara nadda?
Friday, 30 January 2009
Breaking News – Brigadier Bhanu lost the battle while artillery units hitting targets
Vanni source has reported that Brigadier Bhanu, who was in charge of the LTTE artillery and mortar units (LAMU) was seriously injured in Udayarkattu few days ago, lost his battle with his life late evening yesterday (30th Jan).
Capturing the Elephant Pass in 2000 is one of the very high point of his life. Brigadier Bhanu has joined LTTE early 1993 played a huge roll by training lot of young men / women to fight for the freedom.
During the recent war with Ceylon forces, Brigadier Bhanu was one of the great leaders who stand still and delivered till his last minute.
ETF expresses its heartful condolence in the sad demise of Brigadier Bhanu.
Await further details.
ETF team
______________________________________
/Mahen has removed his post just now./
Mahen ganja parak gahala vage..
Mahen liyanne anagathe wena eewada manda ;)
oh oh.. Mahen is in trouble. LTTP hit men are on the look out for him for revealing internal secrets..
Check this video till end, SL ARMY'S - Great Evacuation from LTTE'S Clutches
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7y0_e1fhKaM&eurl=http://www.kalakam.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=7977
Mahen has deleted the above comments as well.
monawa unath dan eka deyah confirmed.
Banu is (at least) seriously injured.
[Blogger Rumesh said...
Check this video till end, SL ARMY'S - Great Evacuation from LTTE'S Clutches]
Thanks ramesh, I watched it and felt extremely sorry. Can you now read the following story
http://www.lankanewspapers.com/news/2007/8/18014_space.html
Panhinda,
Exactly, mate.
In the cechnyan war !! Putin gave an ultimatum to the people leave now or be considered a terrorist and be dealt like one !!
NDTV,com carries the below form nadesan
[
In an interview to an international television channel LTTE political chief B Nadesan said that the people did not wish to end up in the hands of "their killers".
The LTTE says Tamils in the conflict zone want to stay back to be protected by the rebels.]
if this is the case then, what to do isn't it !!!! since SLA is fighting with LTTE all of whom, who are helping them can also have the same fate
Read this
http://www.lankanewspapers.com/news/2007/8/18014_space.html
Karu,
Sorry, machan, I just finished 03 pieces of home delivered chicken supreme Pizza. What a treat!
Chaturanga,
I remember reading this a long time ago. Glad I could unearthed it again.
Karu,
You welcome again, bro!
Where are our news masters?
Puran, Vajira, Pussy Tigers,Hemantha or at least Nisal machoooo! please give us some mews!
DW
Is there a possiblity, given the proximity of the no fire zone to the current SLDF offensive line,of encirling this starting from the southern side. With this move the no fire zone will be (hopefully) isolated from the LTTE area which would liberate the civilians.
We cannot afford to have any more suffering to the tamil civilians trapped in the hands of the barberic terrorists.
My last warnin to Ninja and Sam!
Let it go, or...............
F**k it could be anything............
I don't want to hammer patriots but if comes to that, I will not hesitstate, ball is in your court!...
Aiyo.. Mahen has a new post
duzz said...
1 mile to kilinochchii bwaarrkk!!
LTTE for obama bwarrrk!!
LTTE for hillary bwarrrkk!!
LTTE for McCain Bwaarrkk!!
LTTE for Muthuwel Bwarrkk!!
LTTE for toilets Bwarrkk!!
liked this post duzz Bwarrkk !! :)
Patriots,
Its the SLA harvesting season
BIG FISH HARVESTED
LTTE’s Vanni Commander Bhanu critically injured while fleeing from Visvamadu
CJ,
Are quoting Mahen? Be careful, he usually retracts his comments!!
Bhanu the super-human has been seriously injured, again.
No Saturday kiribath?
India 134/3
Hi Peter
How are you?
Did you find a parking space for your DICK in Colombo?
Try Wellawa(hu)ththa
“we were lucky to have been educated here and to grow up with [[[Canadian freedoms. We respect the Charter of Rights and we want the rights of Tamil people respected, too.”]]]
above from an LTTE terrorist article in sibernews. the eelam struggle of canada has already started.
[[[we want the rights of Tamil people respected, too.]]]
soon the claymore bombs will start going in toronto & let the toronto fireworks begin.
ha ha ha!
Hi Chaturanga
How did you get my son's name?
News is Jayalath Jayawardene open his fart mouth realising that there is no political future for him.
The link is
"http://www.island.lk/2009/01/31/news17.html"
India 175/4
The whole TN is not watching the match as a protest to Indian Gov. They requested not to send Indian Cricket team.
India 192/5
has chalai and puthkudirpu been taken...adoes any one knw
but one commentator is luxman sivaramakrishnan, a tamil from shit nadu.
Indika
NO
Hi Velu
3 gods (SivaRamakrishnan) is not watching, just commentating
If we do not get Doni out in the next two overs, SL will loose this match too.
Situation as at 31-01-09
VP's pressure 166 121
VP's weight 137 KG
Aiyamperumal 01 KM
ALANKULAM 01 KM
Ampalavanpokkanai 01 KM
Chalai 00 KM 55 Captured on 25-01-09
Chilarattai 01 KM
Chu'ndikku'lam 00 KM - 55 Captured on 14-01-09
Chuthanthirapuram 01 KM
Dharmapuram 00 KM - 58 Captured on 13-01-09
IRANAIIRUPPAIKULAM 01 KM
IRANAMADU East 01 KM - 57 Captured on 15-01-09
Kaddaikadu 01 KM - 58 Captured on 15-01-09
KALAMADUKULAM 01 KM - 57 Captured on 17-01-09
KULAWEDDIDAL 01 KM - TF 2 Captured on 12-01-09
Kalmadukulam 01 KM
Ka'ndaava'lai 01 KM 58 Captured on 18-01-09
KARUPPADDAMURIPPU 01 KM
Keridattadu 00 KM - TF 4 Captured on 12-01-09
Kevil 00 KM - 53 Captured on 11-01-09
KULAWEDDIDAL 01 KM
Mamulai 01 KM
Marathampuval 01 KM
Masar 01 KM
Mullativu 00 KM - 59 Captured on 25-01-09
Murusamoddai 00 KM - 58 Captured on 12-01-09
Olumadu 01 KM
Palamattalan 01 KM
PALLEYADIRAKKAM 01 KM
PANDISUNDAN 01 KM
Periyakulam 01 KM
PIRAPPAVADDUVAN 01 KM - 59 Captured on 17-01-09
Pu'liyampokka'nai 01 KM - 58 Captured on 17-01-09
Puliyansekkaran 01 KM
Punnainiravi 01 KM
Puththukudirippu 01 KM
Ramanadhapuram 01 KM - 57 Captured on 16-01-09
Sinnaittimadu 01 KM - 57 Captured on 18-01-09
Tanniyuttu 00 KM - 59 Captured on 12-01-09
THADDAMODDAI 01 KM
Theravikulam 01 KM
Theravikulam 01 KM
Thonikal 01 KM
Udaiyaarkaddu 01 KM
Udayankattukulam 01 KM - TF 2 Captured on 17-01-09
Vaddakkachchi 00 KM - 58 Captured on 12-01-09
Vannankulam 01 KM
Vellamullivaikal 01 KM
Vellikandal 01 KM
Vishwamadu 01 KM - 58 Captured on 25-01-09
VP's Asshole ?? KM
Lalith's opinion poll.
Who will catch the Fat Pig
1 59
2 58
3 57
4 53
5 55
6 TF2
7 TF3
8 TF4
9 Other Division
10 Escape
Please make a selection in the Lalith's Opinion Poll.
I am collecting the names.
The winner will be annouced in two weeks.
Doni is gone.
SL has a chance !!!
India 219/6
Lalith's opinion poll.
Who will catch the Fat Pig
1 59
2 58
3 57
4 53
5 55
6 TF2
7 TF3
8 TF4
9 Other Division
10 Escape
Please make a selection in the Lalith's Opinion Poll.
I am collecting the names.
The winner will be annouced in two weeks.
Situation as at 31-01-09
VP's pressure 166 121
VP's weight 137 KG
Aiyamperumal 01 KM
ALANKULAM 01 KM
Ampalavanpokkanai 01 KM
Chalai 00 KM 55 Captured on 25-01-09
Chilarattai 01 KM
Chu'ndikku'lam 00 KM - 55 Captured on 14-01-09
Chuthanthirapuram 01 KM
Dharmapuram 00 KM - 58 Captured on 13-01-09
IRANAIIRUPPAIKULAM 01 KM
IRANAMADU East 01 KM - 57 Captured on 15-01-09
Kaddaikadu 01 KM - 58 Captured on 15-01-09
KALAMADUKULAM 01 KM - 57 Captured on 17-01-09
KULAWEDDIDAL 01 KM - TF 2 Captured on 12-01-09
Kalmadukulam 01 KM
Ka'ndaava'lai 01 KM 58 Captured on 18-01-09
KARUPPADDAMURIPPU 01 KM
Keridattadu 00 KM - TF 4 Captured on 12-01-09
Kevil 00 KM - 53 Captured on 11-01-09
KULAWEDDIDAL 01 KM
Mamulai 01 KM
Marathampuval 01 KM
Masar 01 KM
Mullativu 00 KM - 59 Captured on 25-01-09
Murusamoddai 00 KM - 58 Captured on 12-01-09
Olumadu 01 KM
Palamattalan 01 KM
PALLEYADIRAKKAM 01 KM
PANDISUNDAN 01 KM
Periyakulam 01 KM
PIRAPPAVADDUVAN 01 KM - 59 Captured on 17-01-09
Pu'liyampokka'nai 01 KM - 58 Captured on 17-01-09
Puliyansekkaran 01 KM
Punnainiravi 01 KM
Puththukudirippu 01 KM
Ramanadhapuram 01 KM - 57 Captured on 16-01-09
Sinnaittimadu 01 KM - 57 Captured on 18-01-09
Tanniyuttu 00 KM - 59 Captured on 12-01-09
THADDAMODDAI 01 KM
Theravikulam 01 KM
Theravikulam 01 KM
Thonikal 01 KM
Udaiyaarkaddu 01 KM
Udayankattukulam 01 KM - TF 2 Captured on 17-01-09
Vaddakkachchi 00 KM - 58 Captured on 12-01-09
Vannankulam 01 KM
Vellamullivaikal 01 KM
Vellikandal 01 KM
Vishwamadu 01 KM - 58 Captured on 25-01-09
VP's Asshole ?? KM
Lalith,
Just now Dhoni got out!
It's now 223/7 guys!
I think we will have a chance, but have to bat really well. Pitch is turning and bouncing.
Hi GutiKewa
Yes like our SLA's
See we got a tamil and a SLA in the same team.
Lalith,
my humble opinion is If Fat mofck pig not escaped
58 is the definiendum winner
(Ex.SunGod)Mofckr V.Prabhakaran HIV
Thanks
I note down as option 2 58.
Yes it'll be 58
Kumar c Jayawardene b mendis 15(22) 256/8
If we don't score 90 - 100 runs for 1 or 2 wickets in the first 15 overs and Jayawardene put up a half century, India would win.
Dimu
Thanks
Noted down as option 2 58
India vs Sri Lanka ODI
Khan c Dilshan b Mendis - 17(23) - 4s:0, 6s:1, FOW: 9-256 (Z Khan, 49.6 ov)
GutiKewa
Thanks
Noted down as option 5 55
Now it looks like a scrambled egg,
Cricket and War. :)
Dilshan shud fire up.. jaya should be watchful or the other way around..
both of them should not fire up.. look what happened to Ghambir and sehwag
I think Zaheer Khan is the danger man, because ball is swinging in the first few overs.
Only 26 respond to Rajapaksa's 48-hour ultimatum...
Indian establishment waging proxy war on LTTE
B Raman | January 30, 2009
ReDiff
In the wake of the visit of India Foreign Minister Pranab Mukherjee [Images], to Colombo for talks with the Sri Lankan President, Mahinda Rajapaksa, Tamilnet, the English language web site associated with the Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam, has disseminated on January 30, 2009, an article attributed to "a political analyst in Vanni," which has accused "the present Indian establishment run by Congress of waging its own proxy war in the island of Sri Lanka [Images], concurrent to Colombo's war against Tamil nationalism."
The article which represents the views of the LTTE [Images] leadership, warns the Indian establishment, "In its frustration arising from its incapability of achieving anything positive, India is not only heading for maintaining perpetual trouble in Sri Lanka, but also is inviting turmoil to a part of its own country." It also says "The net result of the Indian game, without enjoying any popular support from any quarter concerned, can only be autocratic and will prove to be devastating to the entire island. Repercussions arising from resentment, coupled with re-emergence of a dormant LTTE, will only see a raging political inferno and bloodbath. This time the war is not going to be confined to the island of Sri Lanka, but will be fought involving Tamil Nadu too."
It further says " The Indian Establishment also doesn't want to see Tamil nationalism or an independent Tamil nation state in the island, but it is accountable to the people of Tamil Nadu. Public opinion is important to continue the 'dynasty' enthroned in Delhi [Images]. Above all it has to maintain 'checks and balances' with Colombo. What it is desperately attempting now is a re-organization of its own quislings among Eelam Tamils with promises of arranging a political solution, aiming to replace the LTTE leadership. But the important qualification to become a quisling, as specified by the Indian recruiting agents, is to drop the Tamil national aspiration. Soon one may find a set of propped up leaders, camouflaged initiatives in the diaspora and international conferences in New Delhi. But, for everything, the war has to be over soon at least with the semblance of conclusiveness. If it doesn't end soon, indications are there that the Indian establishment may even physically try a hand at it, as time is running out for it with elections around the corner in April. Already there are reports of the physical presence of Indian soldiers in the war front and recent Indian supplies of tanks and aircraft to Colombo's arsenal. Whatever India may do to Sri Lanka to win the war against Tamils, it is never going to get the reward of popular support to any of its aims from the Sinhala masses. The popularity of the ruling Indian establishment is at its lowest ebb in Tamil Nadu. Its name has become repulsive to Eelam Tamils. Having all these discredits on its side, what India can achieve in bringing out an acceptable political solution is anybody's guess. The present Indian establishment is simply incapable of doing anything constructively new, other than destroying Tamil safeguards."
Rumesh,
This is exactly what, LTTP want to sell to the world. They hold civilians under the gun point and fire arti to ARMY from very same areas, where civilians are trapped.
See the that MF (camera man), bodies of childrens are like finding a jem for that guy.
Rumesh, really sorry see those videos, but force LTTP basterds to relese those civilians
HUMAN CHAIN
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Sri Lanka ruled out a ceasefire with the Tamil Tigers yesterday despite growing reports of casualties among civilians trapped in the northern war zone, as the military pushed ahead with its offensive against the rebels.
As many as 45,000 line downtown streets to beg for help in Sri Lanka's escalating civil war
Jan 31, 2009 04:30 AM
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Lesley Ciarula Taylor
Immigration Reporter
Sharannya Mohan looked back and forth on Front St. As far as she could see, Tamils stood shoulder to shoulder denouncing what they call genocide in Sri Lanka.
"We can't all be terrorists," the 21-year-old York University student said with a twisted smile.
Thousands of Tamils from across greater Toronto, a crowd estimated at from 40,000 to 45,000, lined Front St. from Yonge St. to University Ave. and stretched up Yonge to near Bloor St., across Bloor to University and down again to near Front for four frigid hours yesterday afternoon to beg the world's help. Police estimated some 30,000 protesters were gathered on Front St. alone.
Greater Toronto is home to 200,000 Tamils, the largest community outside Sri Lanka, where a 25-year-old civil war and a long history of atrocities on both sides hit an even bloodier stage this week.
Families with children, grandparents, young professionals and students held copies of photos showing maimed and dead children. Banners and armbands said, "Stop the genocide" or "Send relief."
The word had gone out Wednesday, via Facebook, MySpace, university and high school student associations, on several Tamil radio stations, on tamilcanadian.com and websites for some of the 30 Tamil newspapers in Toronto, that only a massive turnout would get the message to Canadians about what was happening on the tiny island off the southern tip of India.
News reports yesterday said Sri Lanka's army had surrounded the Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam in a 300-square-kilometre corner of jungle and villages in the northeast, where the Tamil minority has staged its battle against the Sinhalese majority.
The government refused a ceasefire and denied reports that 300 people had been killed in recent days.
Aid agencies said 250,000 people are trapped inside the battle zone. The International Committee of the Red Cross has said hundreds have been killed or wounded in fighting since last week.
"Canadians think we all belong to the Tigers," said Milly Thangarajah, 28, who took a half-day off from her accounting job to join the throng. "That's like saying all Caucasians are in the Ku Klux Klan. I don't even have a speeding ticket."
Canada last year declared the World Tamil Movement, a Canadian group which is alleged to raise money for the Tigers, a terrorist organization and in 2006 had declared the Tigers a terrorist organization. Human Rights Watch has documented intimidation tactics used on Tamils in Toronto to donate to the Tiger cause.
"The people have no access to food or shelter. Hospitals and orphanages are bombed. There is no medicine," said Supanki Kalanadan, 22, a University of Toronto graduate in teaching. "The government won't let media in to see what they're doing. No one has been able to contact their friends or relatives to find out what's going on."
UN High Commissioner for Human Rights Navi Pillay said top UN officials were "seriously alarmed" over the fate of civilians in the north. "It seems there may have been very grave breaches of human rights by both sides in the conflict, and it is imperative that we find out more about what exactly has been going on," she said.
UNICEF said many children – some just months old – have been injured, some had been killed and others are living in poor conditions.
"The best possible thing for these children and their families is to be able to move to safe areas that are free of fighting, so that they can receive support and assistance," UNICEF's South Asia director, Daniel Toole, said in a statement.
Kalanadan and Mohan left Sri Lanka as children. But the annihilation of their culture is as real to them as it is to their parents.
"This is not going to end until the government has killed every single Tamil," said Kalanadan. "Everything will be lost, our traditions are already getting lost. How can we celebrate Diwali (the Hindu festival of light) when 20 people are dying every day?"
Dr. Pushpa Kanagaratnam, who will be part of a panel on south Asians at the Ontario Psychological Association convention next month, has spent many of her years in Toronto working with her fellow Tamils.
"The war is destroying an ethnic identity," she said yesterday. "Tamils have a collective sense of suffering. No one hasn't been touched by the war. We've known this all of our lives."
Thangarajah grew up in Sri Lanka, pleaded for her father's life as soldiers held a gun to his face. "The people are no longer normal."
Young people led the drive to organize yesterday's demonstration, said Mohan, because "we were educated in Canada. We have been very lucky to live here. We want to use our freedom here to say that Tamil rights need to be respected, too."
Sujeepan Kalanadan and Praveen Arul, both 16, were part of a silent protest at Middlefield Collegiate in Markham this week to dramatize the Sri Lankan government stranglehold on news about the war.
"There were Chinese kids who joined us," said Kalanadan. "It was good to see."
Genocide said
Only 26 respond to Rajapaksa's 48-hour ultimatum...
What U trying to say
APRC ready to offer power devolution plans for Sri Lanka
Lankapage.com
Friday, January 30, 2009
Jan 30, Colombo: Sri Lanka's All Party Representative Committee (APRC) has finalized its report recommending a power devolution formula to solve the burning issue of ethnic conflict in the country, the government announced.
The Committee concluded its delibeartions last night after its 104th meeting. APRC chairman and Minister Prof. Tissa Vitharana said all 13 parties in the APRC attended the final meeting.
An interim report based on the consensus reached so far between the parties has been handed over to the party representatives for observations and suggestions. Once the report is finalized by the 13 parties it will be handed over to the President, sources said.
According to the sources, not all the parties reached consensus on all the issues.
Despite failing to reach an agreement over the character of the state in the proposed devolution package, the parties however agreed to abolish the concurrent list, and introduce two lists outlining powers to be vested in the provincial councils and the central government.
The SLFP, the main party of the ruling Freedom Alliance, the JHU and the Mahajana Eksath Peramuna had insisted that the unitary character of the state should not be compromised.
In the final report, the APRC has reportedly specified the particular stand taken by each party on each issue where they have failed to reach agreement.
The APRC is expected to meet again on February 16 and 17 to take a final decision on the plan.
There are currently 13 political parties represented in the APRC. The main opposition UNP, Marxist party JVP and the Tamil National Alliance are not represented in the APRC currently. There are only two parties from the opposition - the Sri Lanka Muslim Congress and the Western People's Front led by parliamentarian Mano Ganeshan.
The APRC was mandated by the President in 2006 to prepare a set of proposals that would be the basis for a solution to the national question.
Hi Genocide
Has LTTP responded?
""Genocide ™ said...
Only 26 respond to Rajapaksa's 48-hour ultimatum...""
26 BRAVE TAMILS DEFIED GENOCIDE BY LTTE !! GOOD START. MORE WILL FOLLOW.
Good Video from Al jazeera. Brig Shavendra Silva.. He is rock man.. he is true lanka boy… proud of him.. Talk sense.. we need to ask president to give GR and SF to appoint all diplomats specially to Europe. Both of them know how to pick the right man for the right job. London present Ambassador and Sl conciliate it self shocking. At least Shanuka (former Ambassador to UK) could talk facts and figures. Our Foreign Minster and his clans are useless. Worried about his daughters well been in London and shopping when ever he is in London. (as I was told). Next election MR should wipe all this puppets from srilankan main stream politics. Bring our military heroes to politics and run for 10 years. I bet will have a country like Denmark or Japan. I think Moshe ,DW, Ananda USA and Asthiri should be on that list for sure.
http://english.aljazeera.net/news/asia/2009/01/200913184520732947.html
LTTP Plan
{Begin}
1 LTTP stay with Civillian
2 Fire at SLA
3 SLA responses
4 Civillian & some LTTP get killed & injured
5 Dispora supporters & TamilNut publish no of casualties in the web & news papers
6 TN jockers & other LTTP supportes in other countries start agitating by protesting, fasting & other crap and asking for Ceasefire
7 International Community & India ignore
8 SLGO ignores, MR/GR/SF ignore & continue to attack LTTP and defeat
9 LTTP withdraws with Civillians (By force)
9 SLA takes over the town/areas
10 Mahen & Peter write stories about tactical withdrawals
11 Dispora supporters believe in tactical withdrawal and keep the dream alive
12 We read Mahen & Peter blogs and laugh from the ASS
{End}
The above is like a Zedo code of a loop in a computer programme.
This is repeating from 2006.
What is your comment?
Sl 33/2
Sl would definitely loose the game.
[Canadian Tamils form human chain to protest Sri Lanka's genocide ]
Go for the gold 'Canadian' Tamils... escalate these demonstrations... hunger strikes... petitions... complaints etc. on your 'traditional homeland' called Scarborough, Ontario.
Then gradually add salt, pepper and spice called... 'discrimination', 'self-determination', 'aspirations', 'Tamil identity', 'lies', 'distortions' etc. to your recipe and... start cooking the Canadian Elaam pie.
You know... you are the masters of this art.
After all, you have already tested these lethargic Canadians... 99% of whom have no idea where Tamils come from, what is their case…or how these Tamil terrorist sleeper cells managed to rob the Canadian welfare systems for 25+ years.... while smiling from left to right 24/7.
These Canadians still good raw material to get some special benefits, $$$$, recognition, hearing etc. only if you wear that all important 'Tamil' cap… coming through another direction.
It’s important in this struggle never to embrace Canadian identity, if you want that Canadian Elaam.
Because Canadian identity cannot overtake Tamil identity.
Dilshan 8
Jayasuriya 17
Sangakkara 4
We are struggling!
Another TN LTTP terrorist gone
"Family man immolates himself, Tamil Nadu tense
[TamilNet, Saturday, 31 January 2009, 07:23 GMT]
A father of five children, set himself ablaze in Madurai, Tamil Nadu Friday night, demanding justice and peace for Eezham Tamils. The man, Ravi, has succumbed to his injuries at the hospital Saturday evening, sending shock waves across the state, according to media sources in Madurai.
The father, from Pa'l'lippaddu (Pallipattu) village near Madurai, was battling for his life for hours till his death at the Madurai Government General Hospital after suffering serious burn injuries.
His wife Chitra, who spoke to media, attributed her husband's self-immolation as a means to draw attention to the genocide of Eazham Tamils. One of their child is named Pirapaharan. "
Vaiko should be responsible.
This is step 6 of my programme
ආඩවනෙ!
A new job opportunity for peelamists...
Another peelamist sets him self ablaze! Their families get 2 lakhs by TN state.
This is step 3
SLA shelling continues on 'safety zone', Colombo refuses international call for ceasefire
[TamilNet, Saturday, 31 January 2009, 08:37 GMT]
Sri Lanka Army (SLA) continued artillery shelling Saturday on civilian targets in Chuthanthirapuram. Eight wounded civilians have been rushed to Udaiyaarkaddu hospital and a mother has succumbed to injuries, according to initial reports from the medical sources. The shelling continues as Colombo refused International call for ceasefire. On Friday, the shelling destroyed Vanni head office of the Human Development Centre (HUDEC) of Caritas Jaffna, the social arm of the Catholic Church in the Jaffna Diocese.
The SLA shelling has destroyed humanitarian supplies, fuel reserves and documents of the HUDEC Caritas office.
HUDEC Caritas is the only local organisation, besides the Tamils Rehabilitation Organisation (TRO), to serve the displaced people.
"Thursday's suicide -- in a state where self-immolation is almost a political culture -- triggered violence in the Tamil Nadu capital, with mourners attacking a branch of the Bank of Ceylon in north Chennai. The protesters stoned the bank building and broke windowpanes. " - Daily Mirror
Sam Zarifi from Amnesty International, appeared on the BBC News Channel ( ~13:20) and did a good demolition job on the SLG.
Hope our UK embassy will come up with an appropriate response.
Lalith,
that loop should run under condition
WHILE ( area > 0 AND number_of_carders > 0)
When the loop ends the last step will be
Jump_to_sea() OR self_immolation() OR swallow_cn()
END
:))
Thanks Last_Mile
I corrected as below.
WHILE ( area held by LTTP > 0 AND number_of_LTTP_carders > 0)
1 LTTP stay with Civillian
2 Fire at SLA
3 SLA responses
4 Civillian & some LTTP get killed & injured
5 Dispora supporters & TamilNut publish no of casualties in the web & news papers
6 TN jockers & other LTTP supportes in other countries start agitating by protesting, fasting & other crap and asking for Ceasefire
7 International Community & India ignore
8 SLGO ignores, MR/GR/SF ignore & continue to attack LTTP and defeat
9 LTTP withdraws with Civillians (By force)
10 SLA takes over the town/areas
11 Mahen & Peter write stories about tactical withdrawals
12 Dispora supporters believe in tactical withdrawal and keep the dream alive
13 We read Mahen & Peter blogs and laugh from the ASS
Jump_to_sea() OR self_immolation() OR swallow_cn()
END
can someone pass me the live cricket stream links?
UNSG requests LTTP to release Civillians
"UNSG welcomes President Rajapaksa's announcement of safe passage for civilians
The UN Secretary General on 30 January 2009, which welcomed President Mahinda Rajapaksa's announcement of safe passage to a secure environment for civilians who are kept as a human shield by the LTTE in the North.
The UNSG has issued a strong message to the LTTE to allow the civilians in the conflict zone to move to areas cleared by the Government, keeping in mind the need to ensure the security and welfare of the innocent civilians. Such calls by the international community are timely, and will hopefully persuade the LTTE to respond to the humanitarian objective of releasing the majority Tamil civilians trapped in the uncleared areas.
The Government has taken several measures to ensure the safety and security of the civilians in the recent operations aimed at clearing the remaining few areas of the Mullaitivu district of LTTE activity. In view of the fact that the LTTE is holding the civilians by force as human shields, and not allowing them to enter into the cleared areas, the Government had demarcated a "safe area", and informed civilians to move into the safe area. However, the LTTE had violated the objective of the safe area by moving mortar and heavy weapons into, this area and firing from within the safe area over civilians, thus causing civilian casualties, and endangering their security.
It is against this background that H.E President of Sri Lanka has announced the safe passage for all civilians.
The government wishes to reiterate its position that the military activities are aimed solely at eradicating terrorism. The Government of Sri Lanka has adhered to , and will continue to adhere to a "zero civilian casualty" policy in its effort to eradicate terrorism."
"" Gringo said...
[Canadian Tamils form human chain to protest Sri Lanka's genocide ]
Go for the gold 'Canadian' Tamils... escalate these demonstrations... hunger strikes... petitions... complaints etc. on your 'traditional homeland' called Scarborough, Ontario.
Then gradually add salt, pepper and spice called... 'discrimination', 'self-determination', 'aspirations', 'Tamil identity', 'lies', 'distortions' etc. to your recipe and... start cooking the Canadian Elaam pie.....
...and finally just kill few Tamils who refuse to contribute to the "cause" and cover the Eelam pie with "GENOCIDE SAUCE" before presenting to the International Community!!
SF@LNP Reported:
At 31 Jan 2009 08:16:04 GMT
We recieved news this morning that the ltte leader is not reportd in the battle front...
his absence on radio is mysterious...either could be in some kind of trouble or may have fled...
Interesting.
DW anything you can say??
DW do you copy us anyway?
We're past 839 comments and I think after some point DW gives up reading, don't you?
"..Lalith said...
Thanks Last_Mile
I corrected as below.
WHILE .."
Hi, I just compiled the program and it terminated abonormalyy giving the following error message:
"ERROR MAIN : NULL REFERENCE : [area held by LTTE] is a NULL variable and _
[number_of_LTTP_carders] expectedly converted to the [Civilians] Parameter.
If proceed system crash.
HINT : Use [WHITE VAN] procedure"
Wijayapala,
Thank you for your detailed responses to my comments. My apologies for the (very) long delay in getting back to you. Naturally, I do not expect a prompt response. Apologies also for the length of this post - it may be in 2 or 3 parts.
I was reinforcing my point. The most direct enabler of Tamil militancy was not state discrimination but specifically state-sanctioned violence against Tamils. State discrimination was one factor among a couple that contributed to the broader phenomenon of Tamil nationalism.
If you like, you could trace modern Sri Lankan Tamil nationalism back to at least Arumugar Navalar and the Hindu revivalist movement, but if we are talking specifically of nationalism as separatism (and here, the distinction between nationalism and militancy becomes blurry indeed, because it is nigh impossible to advocate separatism without recourse to militancy) then I think the most important underlying cause is the communal character of the Sri Lankan state (Sinhala Only Act, the Universities Act, ‘colonisation’, removal of section 29 from the Soulbury constitution in 1972 etc), leading to state-sanctioned discrimination and pogroms (esp. 1958, 1977, 1983).
It is true, as you keep pointing out, that Tamil youth did not flock in large numbers to the militant Tamil groups until after 1983. However, are you really arguing that all that had happened from independence to 1983 was unimportant in explaining what happened post-1983? I doubt you go that far, but I am curious to hear exactly what degree of importance you ascribe to that period. I think what happened from 1948 to 1983 played a most fundamental role in the rise of Tamil militancy, because it demonstrated to the Tamil masses that conventional tactics – parliamentary democracy, the courts, the satyagrahas and so on – had failed decisively. Armed struggle became alluring, because nothing else worked.
What you previously wrote illustrates the misconceptions that many have regarding Tamil militancy- that “Sinhala-Only” and standardization pushed the Tamil community into arms. These misconceptions lead the conflict resolutionists to the false conclusion that once a “political solution” (i.e. federalism) is reached, the “root causes” of Tamil militancy will be resolved and the LTTE will simply vanish.”
Perhaps our fundamental disagreement, on this matter, comes down to this: by investing so much importance in 1983, I think you fail to appreciate that 1983 was a byproduct of all that had built up in the 30 years prior. Perhaps not an inevitable byproduct, but a more likely one than not. And what transpired in those 30 years was first and foremost due to the communal characteristics of Sri Lankan politics, organically entrenched in the State itself. As you would know, one of the first acts of independent Ceylon was to strip the plantation Tamils of their citizenship – granted, the ACTC, to their shame, supported the Citizenship Act (and most of those who voted against it were Sinhala communists), but the racial (rather than, say, simply class-oriented) consequences of the law were underscored by the fact that it triggered a split in ACTC, with Chelvanayakam forming the more radically Tamil nationalist (though not separatist till the 70’s) Federal Party. The FP assumed a far more nationalist bent compared to ACTC under the whims of Ponnambalam and the like, who actually advocated a merger with the UNP!
Another good example of the early communalism was the 1956 election campaign of the SLFP. The landslide victory Bandaranaike won that year owed in large part to the Eksath Bhikku Peramuna (EBP hereafter), who conducted a sordid campaign based on lies and vilifying Tamils. Then there’s the oft forgotten Bandaranaike – Chelvanayagam pact. This early attempt at a “political solution” offered some level of devolution, recognition of the Tamil language, and even a vague commitment to reconsidering the citizenship issue of the plantation Tamils. It was torn to shreds by Bandaranaike within a year, after a vicious and concerted campaign against it by the UNP and the Buddhist clergy. The EBP were some of the most vociferous opponents, and Bandaranaike was hardly in a position to refuse their demands, considering she owed her political lifeblood to them. A similar thing happened after the Senanayake- Chelvanayagam pact about a decade later. A potential political solution, derailed by Sinhala chauvinists and clergymen - does the story sound somewhat familiar?
The biggest barrier to a political solution is not the LTTE, but the GOSL. Even before the LTTE existed – when all that the Tamil people fought back with was their own muted bodies, in the form of civil disobedience – even then Tamils could not secure the most elemental of civil rights, because of the reactionary political base upon which the UNP and SLFP grounded their support from day one. I do not think there is much difference today; if anything, the problem is worse, because now the government has a gigantic coercive apparatus at its disposal in the form of its military-industrial complex. We have seen what this means for Tamils in Jaffna for some 13 years now, and for Tamils in the East for the last 2 years. More on this below.
The ACTC best represented the J-C nexus; it hoped to preserve as much as possible the privileged position that the Tamil elite had during the colonial era, as shown by the Tamils’ disproportionate representation in the legislature. On the basis of the J-C’s interests, GG Ponnambalam called for “50-50” as many Sinhalese are aware. What most Sinhalese don’t know, however, is that GG was not a “Tamil nationalist”- he saw the ITAK’s demands as unreasonable and correctly perceived that they would lead to a confrontation with the Sinhalese.
Conversely, of course, FP/ITAK saw Ponnambalam’s implicit concessions as unreasonable, and knew they would not satisfy Tamil demands. The proof is in the pudding: the ACTC fell into disrepute, their strategy of promoting Tamil rights by merging with the UNP failed miserably as that party gravitated towards the Sinhala Right, and eventually ACTC merged with the FP to form the primordial TULF, which went on to demand full-scale secession.
Besides which, what was so “unreasonable” about ITAK’s demands? They were only “unreasonable” in the context of a racist state that was unwilling to accede to such ‘radical’ demands as accepting parity of the Tamil language and citizenship rights for plantation Tamils. That such elementary demands could lead to conflict does not negate their legitimacy, any more than the racial conflict spurred by the civil rights movement in the United States or the anti-apartheid movement in South Africa. I do not think the fundamental demands of either of those movements were unreasonable.
ITAK and the federalist cause had very little support until 1956. Even after 1956, there were plenty of Jaffna and especially Colombo Tamils who were not serious “nationalists,” but they thought that federalism could be leveraged to gain concessions in Colombo…most of the ITAK leadership had opportunistic motives like their Sinhala nationalist counterparts- they saw the Federalism banner as a vote-grabber and acted accordingly. Amirthalingam best exemplified this sort of leader, who made promises he couldn’t deliver.
All very likely true. In my mind, the important question is: why did the Federalism banner become a vote-grabber, particularly after 1956? I think the answer is quite obvious; increasing alienation from the government (Sinhala-Only was obviously a big part of that), and the failure of the ACTC’s ‘entryist’ strategy of reforming government from within. As you point out, the FP attempted this to some extent too, assuming a cabinet position, but for some time they were able to appear credible to Tamils, because at least their rhetoric was fiery. Ultimately the FP’s strategy also failed, paving the way for the popular secessionist demands of 1977. When even that failed, well, enter the Tamil militants, and the rest as they say is history.
Aside from Sinhala-Only, how was the legislation in that period a blow to the rights of the Tamils living in the N-E? What happened in the 1960s?
The long-term effects of the Sinhala Only legislation were of course felt throughout the 1960s and beyond. The Language of the Courts Act (1960) is another example of discriminatory legislation. The nationalisation of schools, 1960-1961, also hit Tamils quite hard, especially in Jaffna where a very large number of Christian Missionary schools were located, because the State was unable to provide the equipment and education as the missionaries had. Moreover, the early 1960s featured satyagrahis which spread all across the North and East, which was met with state-sanctioned violence, including an infamous attack by the army itself in Jaffna in 1961. FP members of parliament were arrested and detained for six months during this period too. In another example of the intransigence of the Sangha, a plan to establish district councils in the North and East (part of the Dudley-Chelvanayakam pact) was defeated in the 1960s.
Upshot of all of this is a slow but steady grinding down of Tamil confidence in the ability of conventional political means to address their grievances.
What do the words “Thamil Arasu” in ITAK mean?
What does the inclusion of “Ilankai” in ITAK suggest?
I am not saying that ACTC or FP/ITAK did not appeal to some kind of nationalist sentiment; of course they did. But, to my knowledge, neither demanded anything excessive (with the exception of the 50/50 demand) or chauvinistic. To the extent that chauvinism did manifest, it was a reaction to the developments in southern politics. Political chauvinism at that point in history (‘50s and ‘60s) was concentrated in the backwaters of the rural South, by those elements of the Buddhist clergy who had opted to intervene in politics. For example, in 1956 the SLFP forged openly racist policy during its election campaign and after winning office, including reserving many teacher training college placements for Sinhalese teachers only. The Buddhist chauvinists (via the EBP) called for anyone educated in English or Tamil to be excluded from partaking in public exams until 1967.
Can you cite any comparably vicious rhetoric or practice, from the mainstream Tamil parties at the time? Were there any attacks on Sinhalese civilians encouraged by senior ITAK or ACTC figures, comparable to, say, the attacks on Tamils in Batticaloa and the Gal Oya Valley in response to the peaceful satyagrahis?
The unfortunate thing about the TULF’s separatist position (which was basically a means of roping in the Thamil Manavar Peravai youth for votes, nothing more) is that it was interpreted by the Sinhalese as a declaration of war. From that time onward, any attempt by Sinhala leaders to address Tamil demands would be interpreted as appeasement or surrender.
Are you saying that it took from 1948 to 1977 for Tamil politicians to realise that a separatist platform would win them a landslide of Tamil votes? Or are you accepting my argument, that by 1977, after 30 years of discrimination and the failure of ITAK and ACTC to deal with it, most Tamils were willing to accept the more radical position of TULF?
Then we have an even more fundamental difference of opinion which would better explain why you’re anti-govt. How should Rajapakse have reacted to the LTTE’s closing of the Mavil Aru anicut? Should he have appointed someone who was politically correct but too militarily inept to solve the problem?
Rajapakse by that time was looking for an excuse to re-commence full-scale war. The JVP and JHU had agitated for this from the day the CFA was signed.
There are good reasons to believe that the Mavil Aru situation could have been resolved through negotiation, via the SLMM, had the government been willing. Instead, the government ruled out that possibility from the onset. They did not mince words. Commenting on his meeting with the Tigers, the head of the SLMM, Ulf Henricsson, had this to say: “We sat talking and got clearance from the government and tried to convince the LTTE to have confidence in the government. They dropped a bomb in the vicinity. That’s not the right signal.” (http://www.themorningleader.lk/20060816/issues.html)
In fact, the LTTE did, after its discussions with the SLMM, agree to open the sluice; and the official LTTE position is that they actually opened the sluice themselves. They apparently secured a pledge by the SLMM to convince the government to accede to its conditions, which were simply to aid to displaced farmers, and to build a water reservoir which the government had actually promised since 2002.
The LTTE was becoming increasingly unpopular as it failed to address mounting poverty in areas under its control, particularly in the aftermath of the tsunami. As for the Sri Lankan government, even the SLMM accused them of having ulterior motives during the Mavil Aru standoff. The chief of staff of the SLMM Tommy Lekenmyr said this of the government: "It is quite obvious they are not interested in water. They are interested in something else...We will blame this on the government…They said if you have any personnel in the area, make sure that they leave because we are starting an operation." (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/5249884.stm).
At the very least, the GOSL did not exhaust all peaceful means of resolving the conflict. The spirit of the UN Charter is that war should only be used as a last resort and, in my opinion, this is a sensible approach, considering the harrowing effects of warfare on civilians (as we are seeing right now).
Besides, if the government’s attack was to be justified on humanitarian grounds, i.e. restoring water to the civilian population, then the LTTE was equally justified on the basis of the government’s embargo on essential items, including food and building materials.
This is news to me. In what way was the money spent? Can you show a news article which details this (I’ll even accept Sunday/Morning Leader bullshit)?
I was mistaken, there is no documentation of the money value spent on lobbying for the HRC seat. However, some of the more heroic efforts of GOSL are detailed here: http://sundaytimes.lk/080525/News/news0018.html. HRW also notes that Sri Lanka “strongly campaigned for re-election this year in New York, Geneva, and capitals around the world.” (http://www.hrw.org/en/news/2008/05/20/un-sri-lanka-s-defeat-victory-human-rights-council). It seems that Mahinda isn’t entirely blasé about his government’s reputation.
You did not answer my question as to what another country in Sri Lanka’s situation would do. This is where all your analogies of Le Pen and German Romanticism fall flat- wrong context.
My whole point is that Sri Lanka’s historical context is itself what is perpetuating the conflict. So yes, other countries whose body politic has been dominated by race and religion for the last 50 years would likely pursue the hawkish stance that Sri Lanka has for the past three decades. But that doesn’t mean that the strategy is the best one.
As for civilians, I have to confess that this is where my beliefs rest on weakest grounds, and where I would concede that I may be wrong. Morally there is no excuse for the govt’s treatment of Tamil civilians, and I would be more willing to speak up for Mahinda if things were going better in Eastern Province. However, the LTTE’s terrorist infrastructure in the South is based on civilian support (in addition to help from the Sinhala underworld and corrupt police/SLA). Pablo Escobar, the powerful Colombian drug lord of the 1990s was only weakened and set on the run after paramilitaries decimated his non-combatant support base.
I do not trust the government, or the military, to decide which civilians are “worth” killing in the so-called national interest.
This is the same government that almost certainly had a hand in the Sirasa attack, and probably Lasantha’s murder too. In my opinion, legitimising attacks on civilians for a touted higher purpose, is a carte blanche for widespread attacks on other oppositional elements, too. It is the ‘power corrupts; absolute power corrupts absolutely’ motif that has echoed through history.
What you should find disturbing, if you believe in ideals like liberty and democracy and human rights, is the timing of the Sirasa attack and Lasantha murder, which has prompted a flight of journalists from SL. The LTTE is, by all accounts, on its last legs as a conventional force; Killinochi had been captured; the media does not pose any threat to public confidence in the military campaign. In this triumphalist context, what message do you think these attacks are designed to send?
As for Mahinda, think a little more about the choices he will face. The only way he could justify maintaining the current security setup in a post-LTTE situation would be to find another enemy- i.e. a non-Tamil, most likely *Sinhala* enemy. In other words, the new enemy would not be something that would unify the Sinhalese as the LTTE has done, and Mahinda would be courting a Southern civil war.
That is one possibility. A more likely one, in my opinion, is that the Tamil bogeyman will be kept alive. This will not be hard to do. Already Rajapakse has announced plans to expand the military to 300 000 (what do you think of this?), which I find immensely disturbing. I predict that the army will set up camps in or outside major townships in the Vanni, Jaffna and the East, for the purpose of ‘maintaining the peace’ and mopping up ‘residual’ elements of the LTTE (of which there may be many thousands, depending on how Prabhakaran plays his cards in the next little while). These camps, and the huge military presence, will provide easy targets for hit-and-run type guerrilla attacks, of the type that have become quite frequent in the East in the last year. This will provide the rationale for the government to maintain the present security setup.
You make a good point though – and I think that an internal Sinhala enemy will become a part of the mix. There is already plenty of rhetoric pointing towards this, e.g. Mahinda’s “invisible enemies” (http://defence.lk/new.asp?fname=20081221_03):
“The President pointed out that albeit the armed enemies have been well identified as lethal and should be wiped out by our gallant armed forces. But some unscrupulous elements may act in diverse and subtle ways. They could be even disguised in the garb of human rights activists.
These parties too, should be recognised and dealth with accordingly [sic]. As otherwise, he said, these enemies may ultimately have a greater impact and cause more harm and destruction to our motherland.”
So far, this enemy has assumed the form of the free press and the ‘treacherous’ UNP. The strength of such “invisible enemy” rhetoric (a timeless favourite of would-be autocrats) is that it is imprecise and therefore amorphous, and can be wielded at will against just about anyone.
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The 'airconditioned tents' Biarav' is referring to are their sarongs with holes to let the breeze through.
And these guys think living like that, fed only with government supplied rations and under the constant threat of death is how life should be for everyone, who do not have the ability to defend themselves against terrorists.
Not on Sri Lankan soil again, boyo.
looking at the SUB pics on defencelk, no matter what the difference of goals you got to hand it to the LLTP for their sheer determination and out of the box thinking ...anyway it is a bit a strange that LLTP could not accuire missile technology (considering the resources /money and contacts available ) at least crude designs such as the ones used in GAZA
machan sujeewa,
no point blaming DW for not reading the blog. 80% of the recent bloggers blog on nothing but crap in this blog. i guess no examples are necessary. gone are the days when reading the comments was interesting.
so no point blaming DW, infact it is quite annoying to see all this crap on the blog and whats more most of the people who pretend to be tamil and LTTE supporters are infact our very own sinhala maniacs who love to bluff around disrupting others.
Wijayapala,
(cont. from above)
Whether or not Mahinda is dumb enough to let this happen, there will be greater opportunities to change things and work with the Tamils with the LTTE out of the picture.
Not if the Vanni goes the way of Jaffna and the East.
Spain following the demise of Franco. Also Argentina & Chile. The East German security apparatus, far beyond anything that Sri Lanka had or will ever have was dismantled following the end of communism and reunification. Would you like more examples?
It’s worth pointing out that the military regime in Argentina was pressured out of power by mass demonstrations after losing the Falkland wars, not winning it. Had it won a victory, it may well have lasted much longer.
Franco and Pinochet were fully fledged dictators who actually overthrew democratically elected governments, and erected sweeping police states to maintain control over a largely hostile population. The ‘external enemy’ to which those regimes appealed - the entire Left - cannot be compared to the ‘external enemy’ bogey that SL governments have cultivated – the Tamils. The difference is that a government cannot force its will against an unwilling majority indefinitely, but it can oppress a small minority forever (the Kurds in democratic Turkey are one example of this). This is easy to do in Sri Lanka, where Sinhala-Buddhist nationalism has been used to cultivate explicitly racist myths (“On one side there is the dumb ocean and on the other side beyond the river there are Damilas. How can I stretch out and sleep comfortably?”). Also contrast the mainstream political parties in Sri Lanka, both of whom wrestle for the approval of the Sangha, to the PSOE government in Spain who are quite content to piss all over the powerful Catholic Church (e.g. legalising homosexual marriage).
East Germany and Argentina have made the transition into reasonably successful secular democracies, but again, there was no real racialist subtext to those dictatorships. When the wall fell, or when Viola ad Galtieri were ousted, the electorate naturally gravitated towards left-of-centre governments. Most importantly, these were pretty well secular societies.
I’m not arguing that a similar transformation is impossible in SL. I *am* arguing that by supporting Mahinda’s war – which has seen the military grow in size, prestige, influence etc. – you make that transformation much more difficult.
Perhaps one reason why Mahinda is letting this happen is that he understands that there will be no Nuremberg here. The international community doesn’t give a shit about Sri Lanka. That is why my defense is not, “I was only following orders,” but rather, “Kill or be killed.
There are alternatives. For example, the SLA could have simply withdrawn from all the North and East, thus ending the war.
Even if there was no intimidation and ballot-stuffing (AND assuming that the LTTE remnants would not be allowed to do their own intimidating), the TMVP would’ve won the elections. If you disagree, then please tell me who the loser in those elections was.
Even with all the rigging, the UPFA only won by a small margin. It won 20 seats to the UNP’s 15. More importantly, the TNA was not able to even participate in the campaign because of the TMVP’s thuggery.
When you take into account the small margin of victory, the fact of rigging and intimidation, and non-participation of the TNA, a UPFA victory was far from certain. Not to mention the obvious point – if a TMVP victory was as assured, as you think, why all the violence? If the violence was unnecessary, then it just spoiled an otherwise excellent propaganda opportunity.
The fact is that voter turnout for both the local and PC elections in the east was about the *same* for similar elections in the South over the last 20 years; if the Tamils did not believe they would be given a democratic mandate, they would’ve stayed home.
What they believed has no bearing on whether it was actually a democratic mandate. The latter is determined by how free and fair the elections were, and 3 of the 4 reports I have seen question this (CAFFE, PAFFREL and CMEV). Moreover, the 3 organisations I mentioned described thuggery in the days leading up to the election, as well as on election day, so it’s quite possible that many individuals were intimidated into turning up on polling day, to boost the voter turnout (for propaganda purposes).
I’d like to know what your sources are for your understanding of recent Sri Lankan history. I’ve already mentioned Navaratnam and UTHR for Tamil history (Broken Palmyra also has an excellent critique of the Left). My main source for the history of Sinhala nationalism is KNO Dharmadasa’s Language, Religion, and Ethnic Assertiveness: The Growth of Sinhala Nationalism in Sri Lanka, which I consider to be much better than the Marxist scholars/conflict resolutionists’ version because Dharmadasa has a far superior knowledge of Sinhala literature (even though he’s an asshole).
For Tamil history: Broken Palmyra, and Sri Lankan Tamil Nationalism – A Study of its Origins (Murugar Gunasingham)
For Sinhala history: Obeyesekere’s ‘Buddhism, Ethnicity and Identitity’, Stanley Jeyaraja Tambiah’s ‘Buddhism Betrayed’.
One thing that Dharmadasa says about Sinhala nationalism is that it manifested itself only in times of crisis. Sabaratnam for example pointed out that the Mahavamsa- a text that was considerably more nationalistic than its predecessor texts- was written at a time when the Buddhists in Sri Lanka and India were coming into greater conflict with the emerging bhakti faiths emanating from Tamil Nadu.
What was the existential threat to Sinhala-Buddhism in post-independence Sri Lanka, that caused it to manifest itself so vociferously? More to the point, what threat did the Tamil people of the North and East pose to the Sinhalese Buddhists, to legitimise the anti-Tamil feelings that had come to largely define nationalism by that stage? Particularly considering that there was no longer any Tamil ‘state’ to the north acting as a threat, but rather a unified Indian nation in which – if anything – the ‘Aryan’ ‘brethrens’ of the Sinhalese dominated the political scene!
As a side note, in my opinion, by the late 19th century and early to mid 20th century, Sinhala nationalism was not the only possible response to crisis. The alternative was the identity provided by the secular Left, based on identification with class interests. This was the perspective that parties like the LSSP fought for.
If the above elites had packaged a Sinhala-Buddhist political identity, then what was the manifestation of it- what was the political organization/entity that was established to push this identity into political discourse?
They needn’t have established a political entity to have pushed for political objectives. Most importantly, they created a political culture based upon ethnocentrism, that shaped Sri Lankan politics for generations afterwards.
Dharmapala himself is well known for calling monks to social action. He and others like Gunananda, Weligama Sri Sumangala, Hikkaduwe Sri Sumanangala and other monks were noted pamphlateers, orators etc who stirred public opinion against not only the British, but Muslims and Tamils also. These stirrings were certainly political acts. And while some were fairly benign, the seeds of real racial hatred can were being sewn in others. For instance, Tambiah quotes one of Dharmapala’s journals, Sinhala Bauddhaya, as writing, “From the day the foreign white man stepped in this country, the industries, habits, and customs of the Sinhalese began to disappear and now the Sinhalese are obliged to fall at the feet of the Coast Moors and Tamils." (NB: 3 years later, the anti-Muslim riots took place).
Tambiah characterises Dharmapala’s nationalism thusly:
“…a selective retrieval of norms from canonical Buddhism; a denigration of alleged non-Buddhist ritual practices and magical manipulations (an attitude probably influenced by Christian missionary denunciation of "heathen" beliefs and practices); enunciation of a code for lay conduct, suited for the emergent Sinhalese urban middle-class and business interests, which emphasized a puritanical sexual morality and etiquette in family life; and, most important of all, an appeal to the past glories of Buddhism and Sinhalese civilisation celebrated in the Mahavamsa and other chronicles as a way of infusing the Sinhalese with a new nationalist identity and self-respect in the face of humiliation and restrictions suffered under British rule and Christian missionary influence.”
Your contention, if I understand you correctly, is that this was not really a ‘new’ phenomenon as such, but a kind of dormant force, bound to the factoid of Sri Lanka being a historical ‘last bastion’ of the Sinhala-Buddhist people.
Let’s be clear: there was no threat to the physical existence of the Sinhalese people in the 19th or 20th century, or in the 8th century, or any period in between. Presumably, then, what you are arguing is that the existence of nationalism in this period was due to a threat to the Sinhala-Buddhist identity, and that ethnocentrism was a self-preservation strategy.
But that is where you seem to stop, perhaps because you are a religious person. I am not, so I have no qualms delving deeper - self-preservation strategy for whose benefit? Who profits from religion? Would a steady decline of Buddhism (and Hinduism, and Islam) in Sri Lanka (like Dharmapala et al feared) be such a bad thing? Certainly the smashing of the Catholic Church’s power (political and ideological) in Europe has been no bad thing, and opened the gates to huge strides in scientific progress amongst other things. When these questions are asked, and answered, then I think the underlying causes of nationalism, as I see them, become more clearly manifest.
The LSSP had absolutely no ethnonationalist character? Why did it feature “Lanka” in its name vs. “Ceylon?” More importantly, how come the LSSP had no presence in the rural areas? Why did the LSSP eventually sell out and embrace communalism?
My understanding is that the LSSP was keen to display its anti-British credentials, so it chose an indigenous name. If the early LSSP was really so opportunistic and unprincipled, and playing the race card, they would never have pontificated against the disenfranchisement of the Indian Tamils.
If the LSSP had no presence in rural areas, explain why the Hartal they organised in 1953, which was significant enough to bring down the Prime Minister mind you, spread all across the island, including rural areas?
The LSSP sold out, as part of a misplaced belief that far Left parties could reform centre-left governments ‘from within’. A similar entryist trend was seen in Trotskyist parties in Europe. It was a strategic blunder, borne from a dearth of principle, but also certain objective facts about the world by the 1960s (the entrenchment of the Stalinist bureaucracy in the USSR, for instance).
And what were Dharmapala’s material interests?? Doesn’t the word “Anagarika” mean “homeless”?????
I am less interested in the material interests of the ideologues themselves, and more in the interests of those political movements that appropriated their words (ala 20th and 21st century SL politics). But as far as Dharmapala goes, he was after all raised in a quintessential Sinhala bourgeois household. He renounced all of that of course, so how much that consciously influenced his work is questionable.
It was an “accident” in the sense that if JR’s government had reacted differently to the killing of the 13 soldiers, history would have turned out very differently. Your argument about economic forces is better suited to explain anti-Tamil violence than Sinhala nationalism.
Note that this ‘accident’ was not simply an oversight, or turning a blind eye, but actual complicity of senior government officials in the attacks., I might accept that turning a blind eye would constitute a simple mistake/blunder, i.e. a poorly considered political decision, and nothing much more sinister. But active complicity is something else entirely – that sort of thing only happened because of all the crap that had gone on for the 30 years before. The logic of chauvinism virtually guaranteed that JR’s government acted the way it did.
I honestly don’t know how much I can ascribe Sinhala nationalism to the riots, although we cannot discount the role that Tamil nationalism had played. The best comparison I can offer was the anti-Sikh riots in India the following year which had a similar impact in expanding the insurgency in Punjab. How did these riots take place in a country which valued its plural and secular nature? Was there a history of oppression against Sikhs in India?
The anti-Sikh riots of 1984 were triggered by the assassination of Indira Gandhi by her two Sikh bodyguards, who were in turn pissed off by the infamous Operation Blue Star. The latter was an unmitigated PR disaster for the Indian gov, not just because hundreds of civilians were killed, but the Golden Temple in Amritsar was desecrated. So the riots did not simply arise out of the ether, there was a history of oppression behind them.
India is nominally plural and secular, but there is a long history of vicious, extreme nationalist groups, like the Shiv Sena, have long held influence, and tend to be instrumental in organising those sorts of pogroms.
In 1987, the Tamils got Indian intervention and the next best thing to a separate state- a merged N-E under the protection of the Indian military with the promise of an elected subnational government. The Tamils showed no sign that they were discontent with this outcome, and that is where the story may have ended if the LTTE did not attack the IPKF in October.
And how might the Tamil people have expressed discontent, had they felt it? Considering they had voted for secession in 1977 – and the Accord signed between the Indian government and the Sri Lankan government (no involvement of Tamil groups at all) fell well short of this – why would they not feel discontented?
Ultimately, India would only have stomached a N-E government aligned with its own interests ‘winning’ any election. It would certainly expect some dividend in return for its expenditure.
By about 1981, Vaddukkoddai was largely forgotten by the average Tamil. The Tamils participated in the Presidential election and voted for the SLFP.
Can you point to some evidence for this? Also note that the 1982 Presidential elections took place under the shadow of the Prevention of Terrorism Act (which basically made expousing the Vaddukkodai resolution illegal!), and TULF boycotted it. Turnout in Tamil areas was pretty dismal.
If you didn’t think that the CFA was tilted in favor of the LTTE, for example allowing the LTTE access to govt territory to conduct “political work” but denying the the govt. same access to LTTE territory, then we might not have any common ground to have any sort of discussion on that topic.
Any negotiated ceasefire agreement is ‘tilted’ to some extent, depending on the situation on the ground. That’s the price of peace.
The CFA did not itself demand the LTTE drop its demand for a separate state, but it did create an atmosphere conducive to that.
???? So the American Christian Right, Australian Hansonism, etc. all arose on a background of a decades-old war??????? Your suggestion that class antagonisms produced the JHU is frankly comical, as they would’ve delivered votes for the JVP, not the JHU.
Those groups did grow in size due primarily to sharpening class antagonisms. Hanson's One Nation won power in electorates hit hard by unemployment in the mid-late '90s, and the rise of the religious right was part of an infamous wedding between Wall St and American religious fundamentalists in the '80s, as an outgrowth of Nixon's Southern Strategy.
Let me try asking the question again: how did the JHU win 9 seats in the 2004 election, when it only won one seat in 2000? What changed?
Mostly they tapped into resentment against the ceasefire. A resentment that they, in large part, helped to create and shape.
frackster macho,
do u think they have already deployed some finished SUBs into the water?
http://www.defence.lk/picturegallery/picc.asp?tfile=Boats&cat=ACHI
photos of LTTE underwater crafts. obviously they were upto something BIG. REALLY BIG!
all machinery is from switzerland & norway according to army guy on rupavavahini. so much for ponna ranil's international ponna net.
fuckers were apparently trying to net us & fuck us up in grand style. after they set up the mini eelam with aircraft, submarines & heavy arti we would have been fucked forever.
they would have got us by the balls nice & proper.
it's only a matter of time until sea tigers improved these & made devastating attacks even on our commercial shipping. it would have been impossible to provide all ships with navy cover.
with air ports bombed & ships under seige insurance rates would have shot up & we rally would have ended up a failed state.
so ranils ponna net was actually designed by the west to make us a failed state & then lecture us & dominate us forever. giving us loans & sinking us in a sea of debt.
no wonder the western ambassadors did everything to derail MR when they saw their grand plans getting screwed up one by one.
This was reported on Cricinfo website just a while ago
"Looks like Ishant has been hit by a missile from the crowd and he informs the umpire. Both umpires make their way to the boundary, where Ishant was fielding. The giant screen reminds the spectators not to indulge in unruly behaviour. The Indians are not happy. Brian Jerling picks up a nut from the outfield and Ishant was presumably struck by that. So we have an unscheduled break and untimely from Sri Lanka's point of view now that Jayawardene and Kandamby have just added fifty."
Most probably a Peelam supporter trying to take revenge on SL/INDIA!!
There will not be any let up in the humanitarian operations by the SL Defence Forces. The temporary truce in firing into the risk zone will be over when it is over, and the thrust will continue.
"" velluprabhakaran said...
http://www.defence.lk/picturegallery/picc.asp?tfile=Boats&cat=ACHI
photos of LTTE underwater crafts. obviously they were upto something BIG. REALLY BIG!...........""
Me gena kalpana karanakotath angey mayil kelin hitinawa !! Mage Ammo, mara berillak thamayi !!
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